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With spring football starting on Saturday, we figured now was as good a time as any to preview where things stand with this Oklahoma football program. Coming off a disappointing loss in last year’s CFB playoff and returning 14 total starters, there will be no shortage of expectations for this 2016 squad. The plan is to preview things by position group, both as to where things stand in the spring and project how things might play out later this fall. So let’s get started.
* Much like our quarterback preview, there is very little up in the air with respect to running back as well given who OU returns in 2016. Between Samaje Perine and Joe Mixon there is a strong argument to be made that no other team in the country can boast as dangerous a RB duo. And the talk that Mixon has added some bulk yet looking even quicker than he did last year only adds to the anticipation of what we can expect from both he and Perine this season.
When it comes to spring practices, however, I’m not sure how much you should expect to hear about either. If Perine isn’t held out almost entirely, he’s all but guaranteed to get the Bob Stoops treatment in limiting his snaps considerably. And understandably so, there is nothing that guy needs to prove taking unnecessary wear and tear on his body during the spring given his running style and how much that takes a toll on him during the actual season. I’d expect Mixon will be somewhat limited as well seeing as he’s not someone who will be fighting for a job and the coaches know what he brings to the table.
* So the guy that should have the most prominent role this spring figures to be redshirt freshman Rodney Anderson, who is expected to be ready to return following a broken leg suffered during the Tennessee game last year. Anderson was a guy that this same time last year the OU coaches were raving about, both for this athleticism and physicality.
By the time fall rolls around, OU will be legitimately six deep at RB (which is pretty ridiculous to think about). And yet I’m extremely confident Lincoln Riley & co. find some type of role for Anderson in this offense.
* Similarly, I also believe there is a role for Daniel Brooks in this OU offense. If for no other reason than he’s such a different type of back from everyone else on the roster. Quick, shifty guy with really good speed who can get to the corner and make plays in space. Granted, with Perine/Mixon/Ross/Anderson all likely ahead of him touches are likely to be limited, but he’s still a guy I think could excel in that type of role.
* Which brings us to the enigma that is Alex Ross. Not to start off on a tangent, but is it just me or does it seem like Ross is one of those guys you feel like has been at OU for 10 years? Anyway, back on topic. We’ll get to Ross as a kick returner — although I’m not sure what we, or anyone, can offer outside of ‘WTF?’ — when we preview OU’s special teams, but as for what he brings to this offense as a running back at this point I’m kind of left scratching my head.
We’ve seen, at times, Ross have success, but more often than not it seems the offense struggles to move the ball consistently when the it’s in his hands. If I were a betting man, I’d say some, possibly even most, of Ross’ carries become Anderson’s, but I suppose only time will tell on that.
* Abdul Adams is the lone RB in OU’s 2016 signing class and while he has a ton of ability, you have to believe a redshirt is in his future. Although if I were to hedge my bets on that, I’d include a fairly substantial qualifier.
As seniors-to-be, OU is assured of losing both Ross & Brooks. In addition, many people believe given the short shelf life of NFL running backs, there is a legit chance they could also lose Perine & Mixon, both of whom will be draft eligible following this season. So it would appear there is an argument to be made that you’d need to have Adams “ready” for that 2017 season, where you could be looking at both he and Anderson as your primary ball carriers.
Now where you find carries to get Adams “ready” with five other talented, more experienced backs ahead of him on the depth chart is a question that’s above my pay grade. I will say, however, that I’d hate to see a year wasted with Adams playing special teams, something we would have seen just this past season with Anderson were it not for the broken leg. I’ve just never understood how playing special teams prepares a young guy for when they are expected to have a more prominent role the following season.
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RB U! Boom
Facts
That’s not what the Bama d-riders say. Barrett Sallee claimed Bama was “RB U” and it’s “not even close.”
Dude is a joke.
I think a case can be made for Bama’ as “RB U”. They certainly aren’t RB NFL Player because besides Mark Ingram who is a slightly above middle of the pack starter in the NFL all there RB’s have been a major flop over the past few years. Richardson has done nothing and Lacy isn’t living up to his billing at all either. As far as this year I am way more intrigued by Kenyon Drake, who is projecting 3-5 RD in the draft ,over Derrick Henry, who is projected 1-2 Rd, because IMO his game translates better to the NFL as a RB & pass catcher. SO Bama would have to be RB U because they are great in college but have done nothing in the pros at all! LOL!
Shaun Alexander was pretty good for a little bit. Other than that I can’t think of a really good Bama running back in the NFL recently.
Edit: I would consider USC more “RB U” than Bama.
Mark ingram is having a solid career.
No bama is any where close to the careers of AD or Demarco.
Mixon/Perine will be joining in the NFL soon.
Could have 4 RBs starting in the NFL. That would be impressive.
I like Ingram, I liked him coming into the draft, even though he had a so-so start, I’m glad to see him coming around. AD is getting close to retirement so I’m not sure all 4 will be starters at the same time. But that WOULD be something.
That would be un-freakinbelievable
AD has two more years in him. By then all four will be in the league.
Ingram is a joke. He was drafted in the 1st round 5 years ago and still hasn’t rushed for 1,000 yds yet, despite defenses focusing on the Saints prolific pass offense.
Not meeting expectations but 5 years in the nfl is a solid career when the average career is only 3 seasons
Hanging around for 5 years and under performing is not solid. He is a joke.
I agree just thinking about how many backs recently were suppose to be all that coming out of Bama and really didn’t turn into much at all in the pros. Sure were good college players though!
Could make a case for quite a number of RBs at Bama during their recent run as being products of Saban’s system. Put them behind a dominant O-line like they’ve had and most RBs will impress. There are “system QBs” and “system RBs”. If they don’t land in the right place in the NFL they just wilt.
Yeah, but OU has surpassed USC. Let’s compare: Garrett, Clarence Davis, OJ Simpson, Davis, Bell, White, Allen, Lendel White, Bush. 5 heisman winners. OU: Vessels, Owens, Pruitt, Washington, Sims, Dupree, Peterson, Murray, Perine. 3 Heisman winners. OU wins!
I wouldn’t call him “really good” just yet, but one guy that I haven’t seen mentioned in this conversation is T.J. Yeldon, who had a pretty solid rookie year (1,000+ total yds. & 5 TD’s), especially considering he did it with that trainwreck (although it did look like they were coming around a bit) Jacksonville offense.
They make no case. Henry will be 2-3 and done, Ingram has never had a successful year, Richardson was a bust, Eddie Lacy has been up and down, but he’s been, by far, the best Bama RB in the past 9-10 seasons.
The only case they actually have would be Shaun Alexander, who hasn’t REALLY played in a decade. Drake will end up as a slot receiver at the next level, IMO. I don’t see him taking hits at the next level…
But I just don’t see how anyone in their right mind could say Bama “hands down” in the past 10 years (AD played 2006), with AD, DM, Perine, Mixon, Williams, etc.
I think Abdul Adams can be “ready” while still redshirting…To me, you don’t waste a year because you think he needs game experience. Yes, Mixon got better as the year went on, but I think it’s something you can deal with. I doubt Perine and Mixon both go pro…one of them might, but I just don’t see Mixon going pro unless he completely tears it up and Perine plans on staying another year.
completely agree re: Adams
It makes sense on one side but the flip side I think he plays some this year. Reasoning, the RB is one of the few positions you can play your 1st year and have success. Also, next year offers us another recruiting group. I would love to get both OU are targeting, especially the kid from Canada. We have 2 RS srs who most likely will sit again this year.
OL/DL/LB/QB are areas that need a year to red shirt IMO.
I think the thinking here is, the guy who’s worth not redshirting because of his ability is the guy who’s going to be gone in 3 years no matter what you do with him. So if he’s drafted as a RS-So, that means you spent a year you had him sitting on the bench, instead of letting him get drafted as a Jr.
Thus, I believe Stoops and co. are interested in RS only when they really think the guy in question needs that year to mature, and thus isn’t likely to declare after 3 years anyway.
If Mixon gets a high draft grade, he gone. Same with Perine. Same with any of the guys who have the natural enough talent to play as true Fr. That’s just the price you pay for getting NFL talent. They don’t stay as long.
Well said
Depending on how this video thing shakes out, it may have an affect on his desire to leave, i.e. – why stay and put up with the backlash.
True dat
At the same time, the NFL is very sensitive to that sort of thing these days. He may have to take time for it to blow over. Another year or two of good behavior might be what is required.
Certainly excited for the depth we will boast – it’s going to be ridiculous.
Really hoping we don’t lose both Mixon and Perine after this year.
Ross really does seem like he’s been here for about a decade.
Really, really hoping we can get Anderson and Brooks involved in the offense. I can’t really get excited about Ross getting a lot of touches, but I think both Anderson and Brooks bring some exciting things to the offense.
Ross should be, at best, the #4 RB and that’s only because we haven’t seen Anderson yet. He (Ross) has the speed and size but lacks vision and elusiveness.
Send Alex Ross to an Eric Striker type role as a sack specialist. Let him use his speed to go in a straight line toward the QB. Let him try to block some kicks as well coming off the edge. He just regressed last year as a RB/return man.
We could also send him out to catch passes. If he gets LB coverage, he’s gone.
Thanks for all of the insight on tfb. I decided to ease out of the shadows as a long-time lurker. Not sure I can contribute much, but I’ve been following the Sooners since I was in grade school during the days of Danny Bradley. Boomer!
Sooner!!!!!! Glad you are easing out of the shadows. Welcome to the comments section!
Welcome.
Thanks!
The first post is always the toughest
Yeah, the first time is the hardest. You’re so tense and worried about getting everything right. But after that, you can relax and just enjoy the experience.
i PERSONALLY always enjoy my experiences!
LOL! Metz being THE METZ!
LOL!
Me too, first to last, they are all good.
Nice Bob very nice. I see what you did there. LMAO
No doubt. First posts are almost always pretty Metzy. After that, you become a pro, for sho.
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Yea. Sometimes I would begin to type but would just go limp. We still talking ‘posting’ here…or uh…
Maybe you need the little blue pill. Oh wait, does it help with typing?
Maybe depends upon your type? Dunno.
On my first post I tried to be snarky to james babcock and totally misplaced the comment. Bad start, but I learned. Old james never even knew.
My first comment, I waited until I found a little lull in the posting and posted.
We will just add you to the lurker’s anonymous site. LOL! Welcome aboard! SOONER!
Former ‘lurkers’ UNITE!!!!
Yes we do! Hello, I’m Golf and I am a lurker. I have not lurked for almost 10 days now. LOL
Not only that, but in his big return against OSU, he got ran down. No way the previous year Alex Ross gets chased down in open field. He had some serious breakaway speed, but seemed to have lost it a bit.
to be fair, last year he sat during the regular offense way more than the previous year, and it was cold!
It kinda seemed like sometimes he just wasn’t all in mentally or emotionally, but that could be me. I’m often wrong.
Slim, that is exactly how I felt watching him last year. Especially on the fumble in the cotton bowl!
I’ve never understood this very popular theory, very similar to the suggestion of putting him on punt returns.
Ross is very clearly a guy who needs a running start to get up to top speed. From a standstill, like LB and/or PR, he’s pretty ordinary, IMO.
Just trying to find a spot for him and his size, which is better than Striker, and his impressive speed in the 100 in high school.
I hear ya 🙂
There are a lot of fans that don’t get the difference between speed and quickness. Ross is fast but he’s not quick.
Good point with Ross.
And I think that is the problem with Ross as a LB/Speed Rusher. He’s fast, but I don’t think he has that quick first step.
If you look at Striker’s combine results, he is not that fast. But he has great anticipation and a lightning first step. In Striker’s case I think it is as much intelligence and the ability to recognize when the snap is going to happen. Sometimes a quick mind can make a player look faster in the game because he recognizes quickly and starts moving before the other guy.
Not trying to sound harsh, but Ross was/is expendable, and has the potential to break one (if there is a wide open lane North/South in the truest sense)
I agree w/ you. Tried to take the same approach w/ my assessment above. Had to re-write it several times.
He’s one of those guys you want to see succeed because he has shown up and done what was asked of him. Unfortunately, he’s in a RB corps that has guys that have the features to their game that he lacks. Hopefully, he gets his degree and goes on to success wherever his next stop is.
I hear JIMMY John’s likes awesome straight line speed for sandwich delivery!
So who will be this year’s ‘spring sensation’? Brooks, again? Or Rodney? Doubt we will see or hear much of Optimus.
Rodney!
O Hey hOU BOOMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You aren’t Metzing around today!
LoL Now he’s rubbing it in. But better many BOOMER(S) than too few.
True that!
DeBerry
Hoping DeBerry starts to show out. Was thinking more along seems every spring OU has a RB that tears it up, like Dom Whaley or Finch.
Hoping to see a WR break out.
I think now that Riley has had a season to develop an offense to get both Mixon/Perine on the field. We go into this spring,summer, two a days with a clear offensive identity of Power Spread and take it to the next level this coming season.
“Power spread”… sounds powerful.
Power Spread™ I like it!
Power Spread™ > Air Raid.
Really great place to start off position group previews with our RBs. We are in such good shape here, especially if we can stay healthy. Rodney should be recovered fron injury and ready to show his stuff on the field. Optimus will be better than ever after surgery, and news on Joe’s physical improvement is excellent. Ross is Ross and hope he has a good season. Brooks has potential to say the least. Excited about Adams for the future.
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I think Anderson is definitely the potential wild card in the equation. 6 deep is the new normal, perhaps. Harking back to the year where we started that way and then had a couple of transfers and an injury or two and suddenly didn’t have a backfield, I think they are starting to view this as a minimum requirement. And looking at the bowl game, it doesn’t take much to suddenly feel like your out of backs.
I appreciate the tone of the Alex Ross evaluation. I have been one who feels that he has shown improvement and still has potential, but clearly he hasn’t achieved it. It has always appeared to me that he has suffered from inconsistent play from those around him when he’s in there. But, if it were as simple as that, imho he would have seen the field more. The offense has definitely seemed to struggle most of the time when the ball is in his hands. I think many of us would like to see him succeed, but that’s clearly gonna take a combination of things, including some additional development on his part.
Brooks or Anderson should be used on punt returns with actual teammates blocking in front of them this year. Hello Bob are you listening? These guys need to get some touches and this is a great way to do that. I do not want to see 10 guys standing around on punt returns again this year!
Punt returning is a special skill. That ball does funny things in the air. Do not want to see any balls put on the ground.
I agree with you 100%. I returned punts and the very first time I did it (in practice), I felt like I was losing my breath trying to watch the ball with one eye and the guys running at me (at full speed) with the other. It is a special skill, I just kind of figure one or both of them have done it. We need to work on that a ton.
I did some also, small school, best hands on the team. However, never fell in love with the violent hits associated with it. 🙂 When there is a breeze x100. Lots of practice and some folks never get the right angles on the ball. Which is probably why WR’s and DB’s seem to do better with the ariel effects of the ball. They see a lot more of it during practices.
I played WR until I blew out my knee. I hated the hits I took doing it, but I had great hands. I fumbled once when I did it, I got hit just as the ball got there and the ball went out of bounds. I am certain I got a concussion on the hit, but back then you got some smelling salts and went back in the game. LOL I do agree, you have to some practice in windy conditions to get used to it and if they have a left footed punter, forget about it. That is something you have to get used to as well.
If the O line comes together, this year’s offense has a legit chance to rival the 2008 offense IMO.
Oh man, you are going to make me slobber.
Andrews expands his game..
blocking to stay on field etc
Def see it !
Definitely need a couple of receivers to step up big, too. IMO there are just too many w/ too much potential for someone or 2 not to emerge.
I wouldn’t say the need is there for one guy to step up big. Just need several serviceable guys that can get open and catch passes.
WR also a big “if”.
Not as big in my opinion. Can you name standout WRs on that 2008 team? There were several really good ones, but nothing like SS or Broyles quality.
Manuel Johnson, Brandon Caleb, Juaquin Iglesias, Ryan Broyles.
Yeah… I didn’t ask to name them LOL. None of those guys were All American types that year. Good WRs, but not superstars.
Sorry, I just couldn’t help myself. We also had a guy named Gresham at TE. LOL! No they were not superstars (Broyles was a FR), but they were solid.
Me likey
Alex Ross would be really good except for the fact that a soft breeze can bring him down. Dude can definitely run though.
Maybe he should have stayed with track&field.
This. He is a track guy playing football.
Not exactly great ability to change direction either.
I have the same feeling about our running backs that Bob has…
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I think Brooks was best used last year on those kind of fly sweeps to the outside or swing passes. Let Mixon and perine handle everything else with Anderson spelling them if they need a breather
Did something happen to EasTex? Did he quit the Braniacs site? Is he physically ok?
It’s an unsolved mystery.
It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma
Winston, is that you?
Inquiring minds want to know. I doubt he quit the TFB, but he has been absent for quite some time. We are all very worried about him.
We need to send “BoBo” on a massive manhunt looking for him.
I hope Brooks gets more touches than Ross during the course of the regular offense.
Tre Brown,
If the jersey fits, you must commit ?
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Why does this kid look like he’s 30?
I don’t know but that characteristic seemed to bode well for Perine.
He looks ten years younger than Perine. Wait, I guess that means you are right.
He’s a man, but he’s not 40.
I really dislike Orange.
It’s PURTY ugly
That orange is the worst. It stings the eyes. The horn brown/orange is butt ugly, but at least not physically hard on the eyes.
This crap here reminds me of things that are purposefully meant to stand out and be offensive to catch one’s attention (like construction signs, warnings and hunting vests). This orange and that damn fluorescent orange/green Oregon stuff are the worst in football.
Oh, and the blue field in Idaho. Painful. No offense to Idahoans, but the day the Big12 decides to expand there is the day it is time to leave the conference if we haven’t already…but I digress.
His advanced athleticism (super)naturally speeds up the aging process
As long as he doesn’t look 75 by next season!
Sign him up!
Join the pack and bring the Boom, Tre.
247 has Oregon as being “warm” when they just offered him. Ummm, no dude, you don’t want to go to the Quacks.
Sounds like 247 is smoking Quack (refresh for image)
Was that a wise quack?
You guys are quacking me up!
I think the biggest problem Ross has is his vision. Unless there is a legitimate hole for him to hit, he doesn’t gain many yards, he doesn’t see the cutback lanes very well. If he gets in the open field, he has the speed to be dangerous…it’s just getting him in the open. I would like to see Brooks line up in the backfield with Perine or Mixon occasionally, he would be a great receiving option on passing downs.
1 5 star, 4 4 stars, and a former walkon who easily has the talent of a 3 or 4 star, i really dont think there is any program in the country with this kind of depth at RB. Embarrassment of riches, love it!
No kidding OP IS Up!
Just so no one thinks he Metz’d this up:
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So the special teams has a WTF question mark, but then there is confusion about playing Adams at special teams this season. That seems contradictory to me and possibly the mentality that is part of the problem. Special teams matter and hopefully the coaches will get the best talent out on the field to help them out.
will one of these guys return punts?
Anyone else want to see OU put in the Diamond formation to take full advantage of the backfield they have. I think that would be a great add in that could be put in quickly and could fully help in the short yardage situations. How does anyone else feel about this?
Dobbins, Dobbins, Dobbins 2017….must have. Must. Get it done.
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