Then vs. Now | Quarterbacks

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In the Tuesday installment of ‘Then vs. Now’ we took a look at the heart of the offense, the offensive line. Today let’s look the trigger position on the field, the quarterback.

The Battle is Over

Last year, fall camp was all about the quarterback battle. Baker Mayfield won and his performance on the field clearly validated what the coaches saw in him. However, now Mayfield is the only guy still left standing from said battle after Trevor Knight’s transfer and Cody Thomas getting drafted by the LA Dodgers. So with regards to 2016, there is no battle of which to speak.

Mayfield is an unquestioned team leader and in no jeopardy whatsoever of losing his job, not exactly breaking news there I know. He could throw three straight INTs on the first three drives of the Houston game and will still be the quarterback running out there for that fourth series.

And while that would definitely be less than ideal in terms of a start to the game, that particular hypothetical is one of the reasons I expect Mayfield will be better this year as compared to last.

In year two, he has to become a fully realized master on the field. His understanding of the offense will have naturally deepened and perhaps just as important, his understanding of how defenses plan to attack OU’s offense will slow things down for him even further.

It’s hard to imagine Baker being anything but a better quarterback this upcoming season.

But….there’s always a “but.” Is Baker a championship level quarterback?

The Surrounding Cast

In the past, when the Sooners have struggled in the pass game, Bob Stoops was typically the first person to step up and defend the quarterback. We’ve heard ‘the wide receivers aren’t winning on the outside’ or ‘the inside guys aren’t running the right routes’ or even ‘the offensive line didn’t do their job.’ Point being with Stoops, and really any coach, it’s never about just one guy.

With a pair of new tackles last year and an interior line that was up-and-down at times, Mayfield found himself making plays on the run quite a bit. Granted, he did so arguably as well as any QB in the country. But in the end even he didn’t have enough magic to out-charm that Clemson defense. Meanwhile, Alabama beat that same Clemson team and won a national championship with another “decent” quarterback, who just so happened to be surrounded by elite talent.

I firmly believe Mayfield can get the Sooners to the promise land. His ability to make plays with his feet and extend plays will even allow him to mask some of the possible deficiencies around him, a common characteristic of great quarterbacks. But ultimately the inquiry regarding his ability to win No. 8 for the Sooners is going to come down to his offensive line and the receivers’ ability to win individual match-ups.

Prediction: No surprise here (though the Landry Jones regression wasn’t that long ago), I believe Mayfield is even better in his second year.

The Contingency

The second inquiry regarding the success of this position is of course OU’s backup quarterback. Last year, Oklahoma was one play away from missing out on a playoff berth. Steven Parker’s game-saving pass deflection prevented TCU from scoring a go-ahead two point conversion that would have effectively killed OU’s CFP chances.

But what got the Sooners into that situation in the first place? A Mayfield concussion — albeit one he couldn’t possibly have prevented/avoided — forced Trevor Knight to come off the bench and take the reigns.

Knight came in and went 5-of-16 (a completion percentage of just 31%), with 0 TDs and one ugly interception. Hindsight being what it is, there is a pretty easy argument to be made had Mayfield gone out any earlier than he did OU probably loses that game. The take away being your backup quarterback could be the difference between having a chance at the playoff and/or national championship versus missing out on both altogether.

But at the same time, few teams in CFB would be well-equipped to replace someone on the level of a Baker Mayfield. You think Clemson is still a national title contender if Deshaun Watson is out for an extended period of time? Um, no. And you need look no further than our own backyard and Knight transferring to Texas A&M — in terms of the current CFB landscape when it comes to the QB position. If guys are playing, they don’t typically stick around long.

Which brings us to true freshman Austin Kendall, Oklahoma’s QB2. And the question becomes, should OU need a second half performance to “hold on” to a win this year, like they did against TCU, are they better or worse off than they were with someone like Knight.

There are arguments to be made either way at this point, you could point to Knight’s ‘experience’ just like you could point to Kendall being hand-picked by Lincoln Riley and the freshman’s ‘upside.’ Personally, I thought Kendall looked good in the spring game. In fact, he looked better to me than Knight ever did in a spring game. But that’s also just a spring game.

At this point there is so little evidence available with which to project what Oklahoma has in Kendall. But sometimes it’s not about asking how good someone is. Perhaps in this case it’s more about asking how bad can they be?

Do I believe, even against a TCU defense, an early enrollee true freshman under Riley’s tutelage for several months now would go 31%?

No, I do not.

Prediction: Oklahoma’s back-up quarterback situation is improved. If Mayfield is out for any significant period of time, OU is screwed regardless. If it’s more of a “game manager” type of situation, worst case you lean on your two all-world RBs to grind out a win the game and hope for the best.

158 Comments

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  • metzker says:

    Nice work super K.I guess i should tell the others AGAIN this is up.Think they didnt believe me.LOL!

  • soonerjunky says:

    Didnt even mention the walk ons. Only 1 play away from being 1 play away.
    Just kidding, great job.

  • Maverick says:

    Great analysis K.

    I don’t think his numbers will be as good this year for two reasons. No Shep and he was so good last year, especially towards the end of the year, that it would be hard to repeat.

    Agree about the backup situation. Kendall is probably better right now than some of the Qbs Riley had at ECU. I’m confident he could make that work if he had to.

    • GrandeBass says:

      68.1 passing %, 3700 yards on 395 attempts for 36 TDs and 7 INTs……
      Not gunna lie, I’d probably take an under as well. However, I don’t think you are going to see a dramatic drop off in stats because Shep left. There should be plenty of guys ready to attempt to fill the HUGE void he will leave.

      I think there is something to be said about just handing the ball to your two NFL caliber RBs rather than taking shots down the field. Something we got away from at times last year…..I would like to think that we get Perine and Mixion involved with more screen concepts though and that might balance some of those stats.

      • Vegas_Sooner21 says:

        He’ll be even better than last year. Maybe not TD-INT ratio, but I think he throws for more yards and TD’s. I think the entire offense is better this year than last, honestly.

      • Maverick says:

        To me the difference in Shep vs the current receivers is pretty large. I hope they will step up, but I haven’t seen anything to convince me that they will.

        Shep ran such good routes he could almost always be open in single coverage. That’s the aspect I don’t think the new guys have yet. Although I hope they can do it adequately.

        Shep demanded almost immediate playing time as a freshman here in a pretty decent Wr group. None of the guys we have now have shown that type of potential imo.

        Hopefully they realize the size of the hole Shep left and can step up. We shall see.

        • Walter Sobcek says:

          Hopefully he’ll have a little more time in the pocket to go through his progressions and find the open man. When he does, they’ll catch it.

        • Maranatha846 says:

          Someone I agree with. None of the guys we have from last year will be able to fill Shep’s shoes. That’s why I believe we better be hoping one of the new guys is our next great possession receiver.

          • JBSooner says:

            Westbrook is fast but he showed hands of stone a lot last year, and also fumbled/got stripped a lot. Baxter started off great, but dropped off quickly. I’m hoping some of the newer guys can make a difference this year.

            However, I think Andrews will take up some of Shep’s slack and not just in the red zone. I am anticipating him being used much like Jace Amaro was at TTU.

        • Super Keith says:

          You make a good point, but don’t forget that last season…because Shep was so good…it limited playing time for guys like Mark Andrews. We know that Westbrook can be explosive, Baxter can be consistent and Andrews can dominate in the redzone. Now through in 3 or 4 other guys that will really contribute (and in Riley’s offense, that’s a true statement, not just coachspeak) and I think the fact that the unit is better overall than last year, will ease the pain of losing Shep.

          We’ve lost some incredible guys over the years to the NFL, and I always worry that we’ll not be as good because of it, and without fail another guy (or guys) show up on the scene and we move on. Given the recent spike in quality recruiting, I don’t expect any less this season.

    • Mark_in_VA says:

      My hope is his numbers aren’t as good because our line becomes an immovable force and we end up with an 1800-yd rusher and a 1500-yd rusher.

    • Birddawg says:

      The TD: Int ratio stays exactly the same. His completion rate stays exactly the same.
      Yards, attempts, and tds may drop.
      BUT, our run game becomes more lethal.

  • michael hammond says:

    thats why we need solid performance from tight ends and not just Andrews. They and the tailbacks are the dump plays. And for a young qb, who might not have time or presence to make reads he’ll need 3rd option guys to make plays. the gameplan against OU will be ‘Take out Mayfield’ so I believe Kendall will see significant PT.

    • Boom says:

      Andrews needs to learn how to block better as we all know he’s a talented pass catching TE.

  • Birddawg says:

    “his understanding of how defenses plan to attack OU’s offense will slow things down for him even further” – K That’s the key.
    Knowing your own offense is one thing, but truly understanding how the D is going to disrupt you is another. Most qbs barely have the tools to execute their own offense. This year, baker and really the entire offense from the Oline (stunts/blitzs) to the WRs.. should know what the defense is going to do. He’s the best QB we’ve had since Bradford.
    Having Baker a true Heisman Contender at QB propels us into the top 5 teams in the country. But he cant do it alone. He needs his RBs to continue being stellar, he needs better protection, and he needs WRs to separate. We get that and we are on our way to 8.

  • Birddawg says:

    Great read, K!
    Thank you!

  • CWFosh says:

    Saw this today. Worked out

  • SoonerMagic76 says:

    What’s the word out of camp/ practice on who would be the third man up?

    I know we have Reece Clark and Connor McGinnis as walk-on players, and Tanner Schafer as a preferred walk-on. My general impression has been Schafer would be #3.

    Curious to hear the thoughts of those more knowledgeable than I

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      Murdock said on the radio, Schafer is #3

    • Vegas_Sooner21 says:

      Mixon and we do the Baylor game plan from their bowl game! Lol

    • Jordan Esco says:

      It would be Tanner Schafer

      • ouwooferman says:

        Does OU have reduced play books for these inexperienced qbs? or is it a game condition decision?

        • AltoidSooner says:

          Hand the ball to #32 or #25…repeat

        • Boom says:

          There are only so many scolly’s to go around for QB. It’s not like a WR position. That said, there are a ton of QBs who become walkons that are very talented QBs. Hmm, Baker was one of them as he didn’t pass the eye test.
          All QBs today work in some form of the spread and have been since 5th grade. There are so many kids working year round with QB coaches/teachers outside of their respective teams. Most start at about the 5th grade. Tons of camps so they are prepared. Manning camp had 1,200 QBs this year for it’s 3 day camp from 8th grade to 11th grade. There were college QBs who attended as well, Bake, Deshaun, etc. They may not be OU good but there are some that are very impressive.

          • soonerthunder says:

            I think OU has a talented walkon QB. The difficulty for backup QBs is they only get about 20% of practice snaps on game week. I think people would see brady, rogers, etc. not look so good if they only got 20% snaps week after week and then get thrown into a game late in the season. Not easy to do.

          • D Hunter Sanchez says:

            Ohio SU 2014.

          • soonerthunder says:

            different kind of qb. not pro style or college spread. yes, osu qbs can run and hand the ball off. not read coverages and deliver like we need

          • Boom says:

            Understand and agree. They have to continue to improve on the side if they have the will. Not saying they have the talent or decision making, but if they improve, they may go somewhere else to have a better shot.

          • soonerthunder says:

            Yes. I would too. Why watch games? They want to play football!

        • Jordan Esco says:

          If they were forced into action, I’m quite confident Riley would make the necessary adjustments w/ regards to his play calls.

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    Thanks Super K! I tend to agree, Kendall is a better option just because we dont know if he will play as bad as Trevor did last time we saw him

  • Stephen Dale says:

    When you think about it, OU is actually just 2 plays from having a walkon QB ( Schafer ) in the lineup !!!!! Baylor lost both the #1 & #2 Qb’s during the season and finished the bowl game with a WR/RB running a fullhouse running attack in the bowl game—-so injuries do occur….Hopefully OU won’t be dealt such a harsh hand but I’d be interested in the MODS thoughts on this walkon since he is listed as #3 on the depth chart…….Any MOD , please evaluate ……………

  • Sacramento Sooner says:

    agreed on the last comment…if we lose Baker, we’re not going all the way. That’s just the truth, and the truth with 99% of teams not named Ohio State 2014 squad

    • Stephen Dale says:

      yep.

    • Birddawg says:

      Specifically 2014 Ohio St squad… this years not so much

    • AltoidSooner says:

      UCLA had a Freshman phenom last year, but this is a one in a million chance you have a guy ready to take the reigns right out of high school.

      • Sacramento Sooner says:

        the jump is so big, especially if they are not the starter through fall camp, coming in after an injury or something. Even if they will be great later. Just impossible to lead a team all the way

    • JBSooner says:

      Assuming Baker comes back next season, you’ll have a more seasoned Austin Kendall and an improved (hopefully) Kyler Murray on the depth chart. That might resemble ohio state 2014 a little more in terms of quality.

  • SoonerMagic76 says:

    Isn’t it kind of presumptuous to assume that Baker will start? Has he even played before? /ss

  • j l says:

    I think baker has a little worse stat line this year, in favor of the running game piling up more yards. His efficiency will stay close to the same however.

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    My thoughts.

    Baker might end up being a better QB than he was last year, but his stats might suffer some. Why? I think he was a bit lucky in some ways last year. Tougher schedule this year. Won’t have Sterling to help him out this year, and likely no single receiver as good as Sterling. And I think we’ll lean on the rushing attack a bit more this year, especially early in the season.

    I think Bake is a championship level QB, no doubt. What the past has proven is that OU likely isn’t championship caliber on the oline, and possibly not at WR either (speaking just of the offense).

    I also wouldn’t be so quick to throw TK under the bench. He stunk against TCU, no doubt. But he, even for all his faults, is a much better QB than that single half against TCU. I won’t hold that against him. I expect Kendall to do just fine if thrown into playing time in a close game for whatever reason, but I’d still take TK’s experience in the short term. And again, I think Riley would lean HEAVY on the rushing attack if put in that situation again.

    • Michael says:

      agree Mayfield is a championship level QB. I truly believe with Mayfield QBing the 2014 team, we go 11-1 in reg season and make the playoffs. Not to put all the blame on TK (there was plenty to go around) but TCU and KSU pick 6’s were bad. BM’s level of play last year was the biggest reason for the turn around year in ’15 IMO.

      Good point on his stats, though I believe we will see him pick up a lot more “trash” passing yards this year with dumps, swings, and screen passes to Mixon and other RB’s, as opposed to last season. Dump passes going for 60 yards.

    • soonerthunder says:

      I think Baker hurt us some too. Rarely mentioned, but his early success of houdini escapes made him think he could/would always do that when he should have just thrown the ball away imo. It also set him up for his injury.

  • Exiled In Ohio says:

    I think LR will put Baker in a better position to be successful this year. I expect the play calling to be much improved.

  • Ryan Elliott says:

    I really like this “Then vs. Now” feature. Keep it up!

    • Dana Rogers says:

      Just so. We were all in a tizzy last year at this time. Lets us see how far we’ve come and provides a different (in a good way) perspective.

  • LandThieve3 says:

    All comes down to the OL’s ability to control the run game in my opinion. We have the running backs. The OL is the question mark. If we are able to run the ball consistently even early in games, it will open up the passing game. We don’t need a star receiver like Shep to get open off play action passes.

  • Sam Sherwood says:

    For years what seams to stymie OU’s offense is press coverage on our receivers by teams with talented DB’s. When Baker looks at his first two reads and sees no separation he tends to give up and scramble. Our OLine has to be able to hold the pocket long enough for the receivers to get separation. That was the problem we had with the Longhorns last year, IMO.

    • DCinAZ says:

      Our WRs lack of ability to beat press coverage was also responsible for losing to LSU and Florida. Until we focus on larger WRs that can beat press coverage instead of smaller WRs that focus on YAC, this will continue. That’s also why we haven’t had much success with our WRs in the NFL. iIf you can’t beat press coverage, you won’t succeed in the league.

      • soonerthunder says:

        I’m with you 100%. Been wanting this so badly. Hoping Farrar from the last class to be the guy and he still might be in the future. We’ve got a couple of guys who have the height, but not the weight, and I’m not sure of the physicality or comparative speed. It really does open up the field just having that threat. When a safety has to line up one step deeper to help a CB, it makes a huge difference in the running game and short passing. But those deep threats are a rare breed with perfect size, speed.

      • D Hunter Sanchez says:

        Green, Miller, Mead, Andrews…

    • soonerthunder says:

      I think our biggest problem with ut last year was that our OL was giving the plays away to an already extremely talented defense. Won’t happen this year, but ut is still very talented on D so will have to earn everything unless our D forces TOs and gives our O some easy scores.

  • AltoidSooner says:

    Felt like one of the contributing downfalls vs Clemson was not having more consistent receiving options. Shep did not have a Shep like game and not many other options left Baker to force things. Really really hoping AD Miller or someone can take the load off Westbrook and Andrews

    • Will Narramore says:

      Alexander was one heck of a CB for Clemson. They left him on an island and while Shep won a few battles it allowed Clemson to focus extra defenders elsewhere or in the run game/blitzing

    • Will Narramore says:

      Alexander was one heck of a CB for Clemson. They left him on an island and while Shep won a few battles it allowed Clemson to focus extra defenders elsewhere or in the run game/blitzing

  • KJ1123 says:

    If Bake goes out, Linc isnt dumb, “high percentage throws only” will be Kendalls marching orders, check downs and what not. And then lets just line up and play smash mouth. May not light up the scoreboard but all will not be lost.

    • Randy says:

      I am hoping Mayfield checks down just a few more times this year, seemed like he waited for the long ones a little much last year.. let those RBs do some damage underneath too.. lol

    • Matt says:

      let’s run the single wing spread that Baylor ran against UNC!

    • Super Keith says:

      Run blocking is easier (more natural for big guys) than pass protection. So, if something were to happen to Baker, I’d expect to see Lincoln lean on our studs in the backfield more. If nothing else, we have some serious beef up front…throw in the best tandem of RBs in the country, and some of those “high percentage throws”, I think we would still be pretty dangerous.

      That said, we really, really, reeeeeally need Baker to stay healthy.

      • JBSooner says:

        Yep. We have to be able to complete some passes. Otherwise, defenses will start stacking the line of scrimmage to stop the run and dare us to throw.

  • TSFFKAG says:

    What is the Las Vegas line on Abdul Adams breaking the Freshman YPC record?

  • TSFFKAG says:

    What is the Las Vegas line on Abdul Adams breaking the Freshman YPC record?

  • Scott says:

    Kendall > Knight & Thomas.

  • R@z0rb says:

    Great write up K! Thanks for taking the time to do these. They are very much appreciated.

  • Scott says:

    I think this WR group will be really good this year. Baker definitely has more weapons this year.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      I feel good about them. It seems an advantage to me to not have a star or “go to target” for a couple reasons. 1, defenses will have to cover equally and 2, the QB may be more likely to go through his reads.

  • Lane Gilstrap says:

    Where can you find the interviews that Bob and the staff did yesterday?

  • Super Keith says:

    It’s been too long since we entered a season without concern at the QB position. In fact, the last time we entered a season with serious questions (prior to the Bell/Knight competition) was probably when Paul Thompson was thrown into the starting role. Otherwise, we’ve enjoyed many season with little doubt about the QB. It’s nice to be back.

    It still all comes down to the O-line though. And I just can’t help but think we’re going to be better overall with that unit. Losing experienced guys like Darlington and Nila is never easy, but neither were going to be first round draft picks. I loved the way they committed and gave everything they had, but I really think there will be very little (if any) drop off with the unit as a whole.

    Anyway, I think it’s a given that Mayfield is bound to miss at least a snap or two somewhere along the way (knock on wood), and if what we’re hearing about Kendall is true, I feel confident that we’ll still be okay should the freshman have to take over short term.

    In addition, this WR corps is a better, deeper overall unit than what we’ve seen in a couple of years. When we are two weeks away from the opening game, and we still aren’t sure who the starting group will be (and not because there aren’t enough guys stepping up, but because there are more guys stepping up), that’s a good sign that we can roll several guys in without seeing a drop off. Combined with the best backfield in the country (and it’s not even close), the pieces are all there, they just have to perform.

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      OSU won a title using at some point, three different QBs. This is the new bar for true blueblood programs. If you don’t have a second qb who can come in and make plays the staff IS NOT DOING THEIR JOB RECRUITING OR COACHING WISE!

      • Lane Gilstrap says:

        Well we haven’t had that in quite sometime. Last time we had a backup come in and do well was Landry Jones.

        • D Hunter Sanchez says:

          True. Joey Halze wasn’t half bad against taco tach…but like I said, there’s a new bar for success in my view. OU needs to meet it.

          How does Bama win with the QB’s they had is another mystery. Perhaps everything does/should not depend on the Qb…We have to be so good running and defensively that we can score in the 30’s without having to throw the ball too much…

          • DCinAZ says:

            Alabama wins with average QBs because their offense isn’t centered around the QB, unlike ours.

          • Super Keith says:

            They play in a conference where defense is king. Once they get to their bowl game/CFP, defense a strong defense can beat just about any strong offense, or at the very least keep them in the game. I still contend that if Bama were in the Big XII, they wouldn’t be the same team (not saying they would be bad, or that they wouldn’t still win it all, just that their defensive approach would have to be very different).

          • DCinAZ says:

            I agree with you. The BIG XII would give Bama fits week in and week out. But their offense is centered around being able to run the ball on anybody, anytime, anywhere regardless of how good their defense is, and they do that better than we do.

          • JBSooner says:

            They win the game in the trenches. We need to keep loading up on OL and DL talent.

          • DCinAZ says:

            Agreed. That’s where the game is won or lost. Lineman should be our top focus every year in recruiting.

          • JBSooner says:

            They win the game in the trenches. We need to keep loading up on OL and DL talent.

          • SoonerfanTU says:

            That’s one way to put it. Another would be they have some of the best oline and defenders in the country. OU isn’t recruiting on that level at oline, dline, or really anywhere. So we have to get more out of the QB position.

          • DCinAZ says:

            That’s what I meant. Wasn’t a slight to what we do. Just different. Their philosophy is recruit pipe hitting O lineman and be able to run the ball on anybody and everybody and that’s what they do. All they need is an average QB given their system. It works for them.

            As far as their defense, their defense gets lit up just as much as anybody when they face an upper echelon spread team. Every time. Their defense gave up more yards and points against Clemson than ours did and they were supposed to be the “best defense in the country with the best front 7 of all time”.

          • Brien Brown says:

            Solid D, and great RB’s and OL play, big WR’s that they can count on when they need to throw, with great game managers at QB is how they win!

      • Super Keith says:

        I really do hate beating a dead horse, but QB development is something we haven’t had a lot of in recent years. Having a coach that effectively develops the position can make all the difference in the world.

    • Maranatha846 says:

      Man I wish I had your optimism on the receivers. What I see, minus the new guys, is a group of receivers that have a hard time getting separation and a hard time catching the ball. You can teach em to run routes, block, things like that, but you can either catch the ball or you can’t, that’s not teachable. I’m hoping some of the new guys step up.

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      Great! And he HAD to walk on to a power 5? Somebody goofed. Pancake block!

    • Farmer Glickstein says:

      LOL! 40 seconds in, Baker gets a pancake block that looks a lot like the play against Oklahoma State.

    • Dustin says:

      That’s fun to watch. Why was he overlooked? Was he not a “camp guy”?

      • Fear The Magic says:

        I think its a size thing. Probably a lot of big time schools thought that because of his size what he was doing in HS wouldnt translate to college level play.
        It turns out they were wrong.

      • Boom says:

        Played at a school that produces state titles and in a “system”. Also, didn’t meet the eye test. Teams are realizing you don’t have to be 6’4 to be a spread QB in college.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      Still looks the same.

    • Boom says:

      Great instincts when the pocket breaks down. Always seems to find the right cut to get out and doesn’t panic. Fun to watch.

    • SamSooner says:

      Seriously, how cold this kid not get an offer out of high school. OU didn’t offer him. Mayfield has always had moxie.

      • Bob Edwards says:

        Watching his video it’s more about him running and scrambling than passing. I can see where someone looking at his film would not be that impressed if they were looking for a passing QB.

    • OUknowitscomin says:

      Great clips. Pancake block was my favorite too. Not bashing, truly, because Landry brought other things to table. But especially when watching that video, it was startling the polar opposite pocket presence/awareness Mayfield vs Landry. Ability to always be looking downfield, making nearly all the right moves….just amazing. Just can’t teach that.

  • Brien Brown says:

    My 2 cents FWIW. It is very nice to have a returning QB that we all feel comfortable in. Now the concern as it should be is what happens if he gets hurt, (is the Kendall ready is he better than Knight, can’t be worse than Knight, can he I mean no way right? mean OUr line is bigger and stronger right, Ty was a push over, mean smart but not tough, we are bigger right, Sterling will be missed but this helps the WR corps as a whole mean Bake has to move it around find another guy, but man Shep was all we had) We answer to those question I believe I don’t know lol! But what I think, I know.

    A. Bake is a year older, and going to be wiser, they will look at making sure he gets ball out of his hands faster and makes better reads. Ty will be missed cause he was so smart think that was undervalued about him. I think we will have some struggles, but IMO we hear the D has been pushing around the O, I think that has to be a good sign about how good OUr D is. Plus I do think we have great T and that is key, get the middle figured out we will be bigger and better on the OL.

    B. We have Andrews and Flowers, both of whom create massive mismatch problems for teams. You have a Veteran guy in Lewis, Speed in Baxter and Westbrook, hungry guys in Jones, Miller, Green, and Mead. So yes you miss Shep and Neal, mainly Shep but, I think in hindsight the spread is designed to create holes and spaces and find mismatches. You find guys like Flowers and Andrews underneath that is 5-8 yards easy on the catch alone not including the run after. Plus speed will help and we have plenty and size as well, now can the guys take full advantage of their chances? Plus guys like Perine, Mixon, Brooks, and Adams, sounds like trouble out of the backfield at all times. The fact we have such great RB’s helps take pressure off the QB.

    C. The RB’s are also good blockers and can run around, through or over anyone. They are all so fast and tough and they are the X Factors, again to my point above the D has been dominating, but, doesn’t that mean OUr D should be great, plus if it so great that means the O is getting the best kind of practice day in and day out. Plus another X-Factor this is year 2 of Riley we don’t know what else we didn’t see last year what kid of new tricks he has up his sleeve. Plus I expect that Kendall took more reps this Summer than Knight did during the Summer as there was no job to be won other than getting him ready, they knew what Bake could do.

    So in closing we are going be ok, I think if worse case Bake gets hurt well, Riley will have something figured out and I am not so sure they don’t already to be ahead of the game. But, if we are having to find reasons to be worried and nit picking we are really in a good in a good spot. Versus where we were 2 years ago it’s a big turn around. I still choose to be the glass is half full. BOOMER!

  • hOUligan says:

    There always seems to be good QBs and OU has always managed to bring in a couple. Same w/ skill guys, while maybe not ‘elite 5*’ recruits at receiver, guys that developed like Broyles and Shep and played at a 5* level in college. The linemen have been another story but the story is slowly changing. Again, not 4-5* types but Bedenbaugh is bringing in ‘his guys’, maulers who, as he says, may not always be assignment sound but nasty and physical. The difference has always been Stoops philosophy, the offense is built around the QB and stresses great QB play. If something happens to Bake, OU would need to shift, too.

  • Dustin says:

    Guess who else will be here for the tOSU game….
    https://twitter.com/TheTraeYoung/status/768534719961010177

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  • Bob Edwards says:

    Good analysis. Once Heupel became OC his ability to develop QB’s appeared to drop off. Now we have no developed QB’s from his time here. Riley’s done a good job recruiting and developing so far, but we are left razor thin in that position. Hopefully, we can make it through the season without Baker getting hurt.

    As for the concern over WR’s. Because Shep was so good we at times relied too much on him. Spreading the ball around more may be better for the offense over all. Last year, if you could shut Shep down, we were pretty much out of luck. But I think that, in the long run, we will be better off with several good receivers who can all get the ball rather than relying on one great receiver. However, that is still to be seen.

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