Open Post | Thursday, Feb. 11th (UPDATE 9:32 pm)
Posted on: February 11, 2016
Image of Clyde Edwards-Helaire via The Advocate
– Defensive Line Coach: We’ve been kicking around some names internally and put out several feelers as to who the Sooners could target as the next defensive line coach, and we’ll probably post some of our thoughts on possibly candidates either later today or tomorrow.
In the meantime, we wanted to pass on a note from a source who shared that both Mike & Bob Stoops are still in the process of completing their list of potential candidates. However, we were also told they actually did reach yesterday out to one candidate in particular.
It does sound like Diron Reynolds’ departure was a bit unexpected, if for no other reason than it simply happened so quickly. So understandably there wasn’t really a list of possible replacements in place. But at a program like Oklahoma and with a head coach of Bob Stoops’ caliber, they should have no problem attracting a pool of quality candidates.
– Grant Delpit: Recent OU offer, 2017 safety Grant Delpit (Houston, TX), told TFB he has upcoming trips planned to Miami, TCU, Texas A&M & Oklahoma. Physically, Delpit is a massive safety who can squeeze space in a hurry. Despite his size, however, he stays low and can transition well enough to cover slot receivers.
Delpit is someone to keep an eye on. Delpit recently told me that he’s always been high on both Oklahoma and LSU (Delpit’s family is originally from Louisiana). – (Super K)
– Charleston Rambo: Another early 2017 target the Sooners seem to be in a good spot for, perhaps even a great spot, is WR Charleston Rambo (Cedar Hill, TX). In fact, Rambo will be taking his third unofficial visit already to Oklahoma this upcoming weekend. TFB asked Rambo if a commitment was possible to which he said, “no, just coming up to chill with the coaches and watch the basketball game against Kansas.”
But as many of you know, recruits who frequent a campus as much as Rambo have a tendency to eventually end up at that particular school. And with guys like Robert Barnes heading up there as well, the Sooners are looking to continue to build an early core of recruits to help them build a strong overall 2017 class. – (Super K)
– Clyde Edwards-Helaire: It seems the OU staff may have found another potential 2017 running back target in Clyde Edwards-Helaire (Baton Rouge, LA). Edwards-Helaire told TFB he has been in communication with the OU coaches, and more specifically spoke with Jay Boulware on Wednesday night saying of their conversation, “I feel very close to him.”
Now with any prospect from The Boot, it’s a requirement to point out Edwards-Helaire does hold an offer from LSU. We all know what that typically means. Rarely to top flight in-state kids leave the state when the Tigers offer. But interestingly, Edwards-Helaire shared with TFB he has a connection to the state of Oklahoma and has been to the state on numerous occasions.
Edwards-Helaire’s brother attended Langston University, so he is familiar with both the state of Oklahoma and the tradition at OU. “It’s a very nice area. I know OU has put out a lot of great running backs, and their academics are great.”
The Sooners have not yet offered Edwards-Helaire, but it would not surprise me to see one happen soon. – (Brandon)
– UPDATE (12:30 pm): The NFL just released the official list of those prospects who received invites (and are expected to participate in) this year’s Combine. Among the OU guys included are:
ILB Dominique Alexander
OLB Devante Bond
OG Nila Kasitati
CB Zack Sanchez
WR Sterling Shepard
OLB Eric Striker
DE Charles Tapper
– UPDATE (9:32 pm):
I have received an offer from The University of Oklahoma! Words can't express how grateful I am. ❤️ #BoomerSooner pic.twitter.com/So6OKy2rNJ
— Clyde EdwardsHelaire (@Clydro_22) February 12, 2016
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Wow watching Edwards-Helaire’s film I see another Perine. Love that he doesn’t give up on the play easy. Looks like he’s Short but thick. Wouldn’t mind seeing him at OU. He seems a little more faster than Perine though.
Man, what a running back and a great receiver!
Good stuff! Thanks for writing it.
Delpit is a ballhawking future SS. I think he’d be a playmaker in this pass happy league.
He is a good tackler too. Put some weight on him and we are looking at Roy Williams type hybrid. And no I am not comparing him to Roy Williams I’m just saying he looks the part of that role.
Any bets on how long it takes Casillas to put his hat in the ring. I will say 36 hours. Any takers?
He’s got money and doesn’t want to work that hard. I say he likes his gig and enjoys his freedom. Be good to have him come around with some advice though.
Well last time we were looking he put his hat in the ring is the only reason i say this.
I didn’t know that and thanks. Interesting to say the least.
I will try and find the tweet. But not being a twitter it might take a while.
No worries as I believe it. Looking forward to who they pick.
Will be very interesting!!!
Lol knowing Casillas it wouldn’t shock me one bit haha
He did last time.
Yeah I remember. Thank God Coach Stoops don’t listen to that clown lol he’s so full of himself
Right, for not having any coaching experience it just dont make sense.
Yeah MB, I actually spoke with him while on campus back in the ’80s, and he was so full of himself back then I had to just walk away.
Why so down on Casillas? He is a national and super bowl champion. He excelled at his position. Just curious.
I may be harsh..
But I will pass on a Defensive line coach who can be “sad” while watching the bachelor.
Tony C has publicly trashed the coaching staff numerous times over the years so I doubt he would be welcomed with ‘open arms’ by either Stoops…Tony is simply not a good fit for two obvious reasons : 1.) he has never been a D-1 coach ; 2.) has never been a recruiter for a D-1 school. While he had a long NFL career, that doesn’t overcome his lack of experience….Besides, Stoops tried with Kittles and the program is just now , somewhat, recovering from that situation……
If we are talking OU def. linemen that would fit, I’d like to hear Dusty or Tommie Harris any day before Casillas. His demeanor just wreaks of higher than mighty.
You should have bet the under. It only took a couple hours.
https://twitter.com/tccasillas/status/697580240558641155
Is he coaching anywhere now, or just living on “former OU dude” status?
yeah, if he wanted to coach, he would be doing that now!
the latter, after bombing as a radio guy as well btw
S.O.B. I knew it. Correct me if i am wrong but he has 0 coaching experience correct?
Theoretically…speaking…What could it hurt? He knows all the positions. He has been coached up, and therefore should know how to coach up others. I could see him walking into a kids house with a handful of rings on and getting the job done. He is in fact a winner. Not saying it will ever happen, because it probably won’t. I just have a problem at times when others bash or talk negative about a former OU player that won us championships.
Have you heard how he bashes the school on his radio segment? Not sure where the falling-out happened but he’s got some serious baggage. Maybe he’s pissed they did a 30/30 on the Boz and not him.
Maybe he’s still mad that the Boz had a corvette in college and he didn’t.
What exactly is his problem? I’ve never heard anything but bad blood between him and the program. Curious where it started and why.
Really couldn’t say but he got his feelings hurt about something.
heard he wasn’t a great “communicator”
I don’t want him
Perfectly stated.
Because he can play the game and knows the whole line positions doesn’t necessarily mean he can automatically be a good coach/teacher. My guess is Bob will find the right guy. Of course, some people will complain about the choice no matter who he chooses.
Far as I know.
Not a FIT…….Hopefully, OU will attract several EXPERIENCED coaches from whom to choose;…….
Clyde is 5’8″ 193 and can scoot. So far, both RB’s look like they would fit Riley’s system to a T. I live in Houston and heard about Grant from Lamar HS. One trainer I know called him a freak of an athlete. TFB bringing us some studs to watch over the next year. Thanks
When TFB produces their DL Coaching list…
It will be a good one!! I have no doubt!
O-U Know, ha.
I see what you did there, witty in deed sir!
Gotta keep the good times rollin’!
Agree, 110%
In Bob We Trust to look at the very best fit for our guys and quickly I bet.
I will take a stab in the dark and say the next Dline coach will have a Iowa connection in some way..Played, Coached or degree.
(Ex Corey Brown Rick Kaczenski ..Monty!)
ah, kittle!!
forgot that one… yiikes.
Hey TFB and Posters, what about Ron Burton from Michigan State? That guy has produced some nasty D line man over the years
We seem to raid Mike Leach’s staff a lot. Who do they have as DL coach?
Dont take anybody from his staff from the defensive side of the ball…ever
LOL. Never was his forte, was it?
No thank you
About time for the “Hard No” gif?
https://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr03/2013/3/15/10/anigif_enhanced-buzz-16889-1363358307-16.gif
Steal a coach (Marion Hobby) from Clemson, just like they did from OU.
Spit balling here.
Don’t hate that.
Kerry Cooks buddy from ND.
http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/030215aaj.html
That Rb definitely has some good feet and vision, follows and finds blockers well.
He’s got bursts of speed at times that separates him even with what looks like impossible angles to beat. I like him a lot. He stands out as the best player on the field by far.
As K said, you have Bob so there will be plenty of folks put their name in the hat. Geez, why not, look who we have on our DL next year. Heck, that should attract a ton in itself.
Call Bo Davis, at least make him tell you no first. He makes $475k at Bama so it wouldn’t be a cheap hire though.
Any chance OU might look at a Texas High School seems that’s the way some colleges are going these days to get themselves in with HS coaches and improve recruiting.
I think that would be highly unlikely, but at this point everyone is pretty much drawing straws out of a hat as to who it might be.
Not at DL
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Ok, just throwing it out there. How can a guy with the last name of Rambo not be a defensive player. LOL
So we’re definitely taking at least 2 RBs in this class, right? We could lose Ross, Brooks, Perine, and Mixon all at the same time (though not likely)
Dobbins seems as likely as any target right now…
Ross even still considered a RB… Only a mild bit of sarcasm btw
I wonder if Oscar Giles would consider taking a step up?
I wondered the same thing last night. He is a great recruiter and knows Texas. The only issue I could see being a problem is his Assistant HC title at Houston.
Its definitely gonna be an interesting process hearing the names thrown around to go along with a player like Tupai still up in the air..
Who’s the DL coach we reached out to?
Jim Jeffcoat?
Clyde “the glide” E-H is fast and strong. Love that kid.
My next child will be named Charleston Rambo, regardless of whether it’s a boy or girl.
Charleston Rambo Dookmarriot….kinda rolls right off the tongue. I like it.
Charleston Rambo Uriah Dookmarriot…call him CRUD for short ………
We need to get Rambo just for the name. Even if the guy doesn’t get any PT, we need that name on the roster!
Rambo…..John J?
Edwards-Helaire is a hell of a back. Follows his blocks well, patient but once he hits the hole he’s gone, good hands as a receiver, and man does that kid have some serious open field moves (ala Roy Finch mixed with Joe Mixon). Fun to watch.
So, yeah. DL Coach. Not seeing names yet and I honestly don’t know who is even out there. Seems like this happened really quickly. Usually coaches tend to have a list made up before a guy leaves because they give a heads up that, “hey, I’m looking at this other job.” Or, “hey, Stanford called and made X offer and I’m considering it.” Does it feel sudden to anyone else? Does it feel like Stoops-squared were caught off guard a bit?
I’d be willing to bet the minute Reynolds found out the Stanford job was open, he told Bob Stoops that if offered he’d take it.
I’m not saying he didn’t. It just feels super quick.
Yes it does, when did the job open?
I have no idea. I just saw the Reynolds stuff on the old Tweeter last night. Couldn’t believe it.
I remember reading about the possibility on Monday or Tuesday, then it was official in a day or so..
Publicly, I think it was the day before yesterday. Privately, who knows?
I would really like the next DL coach to have strong Tx high school connections versus Iowa connections. We must re-establish our foot print south of the Red River if we want to bring in Tx high school recruits.
I think we just need to get the most talented person in. If they’re a texan … even better. Our re-connection with TX HS’s and coaches shouldn’t come with someone just having “connections”. It should be a change in mindset and culture of OU: more camps, more time, more money, more everything to let the HS coaches know OU is truly vested in developing texas HS talent.
Seems to me that our lack of Tx recruiting success is directly tied to none of our coaches have strong ties to the high school football coaches in Tx. Look at the success that Briles has had and I believe that is firmly rooted with his ties to the coaching community there. Not saying that all of our coaches should have Tx ties but we certainly need some.
Brides success isn’t because of ties … its because if Talent and Commitment to be successful in Texas.
You don’t think that all of those years coaching in Tx and friendships over many years had any affect on his success? Sorry, but I do.
I’m not saying it hurts. But to hire someone with “ties” over talent to me makes no sense. I great recruiter can make inroads anywhere (Montgomery, etc.)
I never said hire a coach that has no talent. If our prime recruiting territory is Tx (and it should be), I do not see how you do that without strong ties to the Tx high school coaches. Can somebody outside come in and do that, sure but it will take time. Many reasons why we have lost the TX recruiting but having no coach with strong Tx ties is probably one of them. Recruiting national is fine but you also need a strong base from which to pull recruits and unfortunately Ok just does not produce that amount of talent yearly.
Top recruiters, look at first two. ZERO again ZERO ties to where they’re recruiting.
http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/CompositeCoachRankings
I certainly agree that I will take coaching abilities over recruiting ties all day long but the two guys you mentioned are not very good examples of your point. First Crisobal is the OL Coach at Bama and a trained chimp could recruit to that school right now as long as Saban is the HC and they are winning NC every other year. And Tee Martin is recruiting to a Traditional power house as well to explain a portion of his success recruiting California but looking at the list of recruits he signed 6 of the 11 are from SEC country where he was born (Alabama) and played (Tennessee), places he probably has extensive ties. Got to have a great Coach first, then be a Great Recruiter second, and having ties to an area would certainly be 3rd on the list!
Saban is a MIRCRO MANAGER to the extreme. Not one detail or advantage is overlooked. He takes his coaching hires as seriously as he evaluates EVERY other detail of his team … That’s Saban.
Part of me feels they are prepping for leaving the B12
I saw somewhere that Bama and a few other schools have like 5 (full-time?) recruiting – coordinator-ish positions. I assume its to help them evaluate talent, etc. Why doesn’t OU do the same? With more “hands on deck” might be less likely to miss on guys like Jacob.
$$$
Is that bagmen $$$ or legit $$$, as if any $$$ is legit. But for the sake of argument, is this $$$ we can talk about?
Yes. If I’m correct these additional recruiting coordinators are hired by the school. That said, booster money could help the AD in this area but at the moment, OU has their hands full and the oil money isn’t there.
Impossible, I bought gas yesterday. LOL!
Unpossible, indeed
I bought over 1,000 gallons of diesel yesterday.
Wuttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have a winner folks. I crown thee “King.”
Poor choice of monikers.
That’s how I like to poke Golf.
You know I can take it. LOL
No, seriously. It takes a lot of diesel to keep 15 trucks going. LOL
I saw some report that had OU as a TOP 10 in profits (closer to like 5 if I remember).
Also saw this. They were like #6 or #7.
ROI
Who says we missed on Jacobs?
One: we only started recruiting him late; Two: he went somewhere else.
Sure you can say that he wants to leave town blah blah … That’s just a recruiting objection; we’ve handled that objection before.
I’m just say, the more people/scouts we have evaluating talent for coaches, surely can’t hurt …. sincerely Bama, tOSU, horns and a bunch of other schools that do the same.
And you know he’s going to be great, how?? He was evaluated as a 2* by all the rating services a week before signing. Perhaps there is a reason hometown Tulsa didn’t even find him worthy of an offer.
you should go to soonersports and listen to Bob’s explanation of Jacobs’ recruitment.
If you don’t feel like watching I will give me my take and PlayLikeaChampion’s take on it from a day or 2 ago…
“Stoops mentioned Jacobs recruitment (or lack there of) in one of the videos on Soonersports. He basically said that we didn’t have a real need at the running back position (after landing Adams) and that when they offered him late they did so considering him in more of a slot/wr position. He also said they were aware that once they offered that there would be a snowball affect with other major programs to snag him last minute. Also, that those other programs may have had more of a need at the actually running back position than we did.
I obviously paraphrased most of this… but this is my interpretation of the interview.”
PlayLikeaChampion soonersd • 2 days ago
“You are 100% accurate, but that story won’t be told. Bob also stated their previous commit now decommit at Slot was a better prospect at the Slot position. Some don’t seem to care about the truth, just the drama.”
They are no allowed to have any more off campus recruiting coaches than OU or any other school is. As far as on campus? Not sure, but I doubt that is making the difference in recruiting.
Bob said in his presser he knew his visit to Jacobs’ high school would draw attention nationally. Bob also said Jacob wasn’t the top Slot on their board. OU had others ranked higher. Once a particular Slot decommitted, they decided to go visit Jacobs. Joshua was offered at the Slot within 24 hours, but NEVER at RB. Bob said they preferred Abdul Adams at RB with his overall game and ability. He prefers RBs in the mold of Mixon. Bob said they only had one scholarship tagged for the RB spot in 2016. Riley confirmed Bob’s comments, when he was interviewed. Riley made it clear that he had no intention of risking an Abdul Adams departure with any potential RB prospect.
Regardless, Jacobs never officially visited OU, choosing to visit Mizzou and Bama, who were looking at him at RB. Let’s wish him well at Bama.
Nice to see OU got Mykel Jones in the Slot at the end, Top 100 prospect by Rivals.
Alright, let’s go ahead and close up RB recruiting. Dobbins+Clyde E-H both look great.
Interesting name I saw on LT for a DL coach.. Tray Scott.. Current DL coach at North Carolina.. From Arkansas, GA’d/coached under Freeze at both Ark St & Ole Miss.
I would like to avoid anyone who has Ole Mi$$ stamped on his passport.
Jerry Montgomery? what happened to the info about him not getting along with capers or something? maybe im making this up
Wishful thinking perhaps?
dreaming on a thursday
dreaming on a thursday
Would be a bad look for Monty. Word was he and mike didn’t get along too well.
Word being internet rumors or actual accounts?
May be rumors but its been mentioned by people who cover the team not just random fans like myself. KJ may be able to confirm the rumblings.
Just wondering. You can hear just about anything on the Internet. I wouldn’t think he’d be too upset with things the way he’s kept promoting OU and has stayed in touch. I thought he did a good job while he was here.
I think that was more or less confirmed here at one point.
ah makes sense well thats no good
https://twitter.com/BrandonTFB/status/697837279847383042
Hope that one works out better than the legacy this last NSD.
Freshman highlights. He’d look good in Crimson and Cream.
Pretty sad OU hasn’t offered.
Seriously? He’s a freshman!!
Diapers man; when they stop wearing diapers any decent team will offer at that point.
Seriously!!! That’s how it works now of days. Did you see the offer list he already has? Mookie might be ashamed of an OU offer coming in behind all those other schools.
Seems like a reach, but if that’s what you think you’re welcome to it.
I think nowadays some schools are reaching too early. Gotta’ let a kid develop. If he accepts your offer as a freshman and ends all recruiting and you determine that he doesn’t fit your scheme (or a new coach comes in) when he becomes a senior, do you pull the offer?
I commented on him 4 months ago when his freshman film first surfaced. Not sure what influence Mookie has in his life anymore. I’m sure he did grow up with a lot of OU memorabilia around the house. But I have since read that he isn’t as huge fan of an OU fan as we would hope.
Twin brothers are at Kentucky… Or were
I posted this video here a few months back too. I think Spurrier was the first to offer him when he was 14.
That’s quite an offer list for a freshman but I can see why he has them.. You don’t see kids that young performing like that very often.
Best of luck to the kid! Looking at that film I realize that I have no idea what I am looking at. All I could see was how bad all the defenses were that he was going up against. Film evaluation has got to be so difficult and it is no wonder why this is such an inexact science.
update added
We all know what Striker can do and we saw glimpses of what Bond can do. Do you all think that Bond has the most potential out of the two due to his size or will Striker put on enough weight to become an NFL edge rusher?
Both Bond & Striker remind of Von Miller & Khalil Mack.
lol
Striker is not comparable to Miller at all. Miller is much faster, taller and a lot heavier even when comparing their combine numbers. I like Striker a lot but he will have to make the transition to the “Will” in a 4/3. Bond is faster than Striker and bigger so he has a higher ceiling. Overall, Striker had the production and Bond has more potential.
Yeah, while I watched the Super Bowl I was thinking that Von Miller might be helping Striker get paid.
Bond is the better NFL prospect. he will likely be drafted higher than Striker.
Scott below mentioned a couple guys that play a similar game to Striker & Bond but they are both 6’3 250lbs while Bond is listed at 6’1″ 238lbs and Striker 6′ 222lbs. As JR mentions below I think they both have to change positions in order to succeed in the NFL. The top 5 LBs on one list were Kuechly 6’3″ 238lb, Dont’a Hightower 6’3 265lb, Jamie Collins 6’3″ 250lb, Bobby Wagner 6′ 241lb, Sean Lee 6’2″ 238lb. Some of those sizes could be comparable to the size Striker and Bond could be but on the other hand Lee and Wagner the closest 2 in size have been hurt a lot. Each player is different but don’t see either guy as a edge rusher. Maybe Striker or Bond can play a similar role to Clay Matthews the past couple years were he lines up literally everywhere and has good speed as an edge runner but plays solid as the Middle LB as well. Don’t know but going to be a challenge!
Bo Davis would be at the top of the list for me. He is young , good recruiter , has the $EC ties , and pretty good coach IMO.
He would be a great get but would be at best a sideways move in his career if not a bit of dip since he has been Coaching at Alabama for their last 3 Natties! Hard to lure a guy like that away without a Asst-Defensive Coordinator tag!
If you have to tweet out for the job…You are not a candidate……
Yeah, don’t pull a Gottlieb!
Reading around, here are some names that I am seeing thrown out for D-Line coach
Calvin Thibodeaux (is he OU ready yet?)
CJ Ah You (not much experience)
Ed Orgeron – LSU (not happening)
Tray Scott – UNC (interesting but not much experience)
Dan Sharp – TCU (doubt there is interest)
Brick Haley – Texas (doubt there is interest on either side)
Bo Davis – Alabama (doubt there is interest and not happening)
Oscar Giles – Houston (my personal favorite but has no ties to OU or the staff)
Carl Pelini – Youngstown St (even with ties to the Stoops and OU, the Pelini’s are probably toxic still)
I am sure most of these are not on the radar but it is interesting to see who fans want.
Carl Pelini? Not sure if you’d have to pay cash or coke…
Just say no to pelini of any shade.
Sean Spencer – PSU
Tosh Lupoi – Bama
Marion Hobby – Clemson
Maybe throw in Ben Albert – Boston College
I think he just took the job at Duke. I don’t know if that would come into play, but it is something to consider.
Yeah, he’s at Duke as Associate DC and DL, but you are correct.
He’s a 3-4 guy too. He’s known to be a X’s and O’s instructor, so his football IQ is high.
I like Spencer. He is a good coach but he has very little experience recruiting in the south.
Lupoi is a real possibility. He isn’t the most experienced guy but he has 3-4 experience and has coached D-line before.
Hobby would have to get a co-DC title to move on from Clemson since he has that designation there.
Upon father review, Lupoi may have become my favorite.
doesn’t Lupoi have previous recruiting violations on his record?
He was investigated but cleared by the NCAA or any wrong doing.
I want Oscar Giles but I think it will be Ah You or Thibs.
My Lord! Clyde come on down…..incredible talent. Those over the should catches are phenomenal and one of the fastest spin moves I’ve seen in a high school back. Speed looks above average, certainly not a blazer but plenty to compete in our league. Great find by the coaches. Hopefully, the young man cares about character and class. If so, no chance he considers LSU.
Finally watched. Turned off after 2 minutes.
Someone offer that kid immediately…like last week.
You know your a stud when you have over 9 minutes of highlights.
And they are all legit highlights, not a bunch or rerun crap to fill time.
Slippery. The catch (believe it was the third highlight) where he was interfered with but still made the catch falling backwards was sweet.
Kid is a beast
Clyde = patience-vision-power-speed. I will take two please…
The OU players invited to the NFL Combine sounds like an All-Star team!
Alexander–12 reps, 4.7, Bond–21 reps, 4.89, Kasitati–24 reps, 5.3, Zanchez–wont bench, 4.49, Shepard–17 reps, 4.51, Striker–16 reps, 4.8, Tapper–27 reps, 4.8
These will be the numbers, feel free to come back and check!
Wow, I would have thought Alexander, Bond, and Striker would have been a little faster. Also Alexander and Striker with 12 and 16 reps? That’s not a lot, especially the 12.
I believe these are stikboy’s guesses. They haven’t tested yet as far as I know.
Correct.
I still remember Tapper running down Amari Cooper. I hope he’s a bit faster than that.
Dom goes undrafted with 12 reps(probably will anyway)
I believe if at 6’2″ and 282lbs he runs faster than a 4.8 then he will certainly help his draft stock.
I think he’s got a shot at 3-5th round if he runs a 4.7
I have seen he picked in the 5th in several Mock Drafts but yeah he could certainly move up in to the back end of the 3rd or the 4th round with a great 40 time!
I’ll take the over on you forty time for Sanchez
If Sanchez breaks 4.6 in 40, I will be shocked. Shep will rep around 22 – 25.
Wouldn’t surprise me. Shep is strong!
Give me the under on Shep’s 40 time!
Sanchez wont bench = spaghetti arms.
more like spagetti shoulder
both
Our 5’10” 194 lbs WR will bench more than both of our 6’0″ 220 lbs linebackers?
Tapper has been clocked at 4.55. Pretty sure its the current DE record on our board. He didnt run amari cooper down from behind running a 4.8 lol.
Awesome.
Remember though that guys rarely run as fast at the combine as they do at OU.
true, think thats about the same for everyone though. Still think he a low-mid 4.6 guy at the combine.
Was looking at NFL coaches, and one assistant coach stood out to me. Joe Bowden, I wonder if he will have interest in coaching at OU at some point.
Does Ryan Broyles ever contribute to TFB? Also, does anyone know if he is still trying play in the NFL?
He should go into broadcasting…looks like a natural
I watched him on the 2016 Signing Day Live Webcast at Soonersports.com. He was a natural on their show. I’d get into coaching first, knowing the low pay in radio. He was talking X’s & O’s and seemed to enjoy it. He’d be a great recruiter.
Successful coaches are all go high energy 24/7 instructors, thick skinned, so it’s not for every football player post playing career.
I’m surprised he isn’t back on a practice squad in the NFL.
As of now, I believe the plan is for him to take part in OU’s Pro Day next month.
Round projections for each of our guys?
ILB Dominique Alexander – 7th
OLB Devante Bond – 5th
OG Nila Kasitati – 7th
CB Zack Sanchez – 5th
WR Sterling Shepard – 2nd
OLB Eric Striker – 3rd
DE Charles Tapper – 2nd
Interesting on Tapper, I think of him as a 4th-5th. But if he performs well at the combine I think he could get up to the 3rd.
A guy like Tapper will benefit from a team with a real NT. OU’s NT’s didn’t draw double teams.
Tapper next to a guy like Gerald McCoy is a big sign.
That’s a good point. What do you mean by real NT, like any team that runs a 3-4? Or more specifically a team that has a proven NT in the
3-4?
Real = NFL starter quality
The Best, Best Case Scenario:
ILB Dominique Alexander – 1st pick
OLB Devante Bond – 2nd pick
OG Nila Kasitati – 3rd pick
CB Zack Sanchez – 4th pick
WR Sterling Shepard – 5th pick
OLB Eric Striker – 6th pick
DE Charles Tapper – 7th pick
Shep 2nd round
Striker/Tapper 3-5
rest 6-7 at best
Shep 2nd
Tapper 4th
Striker 4th
Sanchez 5th
Bond 5th
Kasitati 6th
Alexander 6th
ask again with a week to go..
dunno but here’s what any true Sooner fan does on draft day:
OU Player gets selected in the 1st round, do 1 shot
OU Player gets selected in the second round, do 2 shots
OU Player gets selected in the 3rd round, do 3 shots
and so forth…
I see what you’re doing there….
Shep – 2nd round
Bond – 3rd round
Sanchez – 3rd round
Striker – late 3rd or 4th round
Tapper – 4th round
Alexander – 5th round
Nila – undrafted
Ask again after the combine. I’ll adjust these based on how they do at the combine. I think all of them can fluctuate depending on how they perform at the combine and at the pro day. All of them can really help themselves by putting up good speed/quickness numbers and showing off their athleticism.
Sooners announce they are looking for a new DL coach, and the markets go crazy! Coincidence? I think not.
Big Joe Salavea at Wazzu would be my nomination for DL coach. Dude still looks like he can play. And I’d be scared to miss a tackle or he’d throw me up into the stands. Plus he’s familiar with MS I think he coach a year under him in AZ.
http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics33/400/NV/NVNHRDEIEWDHWAO.20140421233914.jpg
These boards would go ape sheet if we hired a former MS coach…heck anybody connected to the Stoops really
That’s true. Im not 100%, JS may have been before MS got to AZ. I heard he’s a good recruiter too. I think he concentrates more on Cali and the islands though.
I remember him playing for the Titans back in the day. That would actually be a good hire away from Wazzu. The Poly connections are important!
Cali and the Islands can give you a pretty stout DL.
“Hey Bruddah! You knocked that guy down and now he’s sleeping? No good, man, he’s disrespecting you!”
“He’s dead.”
“Oh, alright then.”
Exactly. At halftime there will be alot of “Coach, I hungry…”
I personally volunteer to dig the pit. We’ve got local pigs. Might have to get somebody’s jet to stand by to fly in the tuna. Other than that, I think we’ve got it covered.
He was there at AZ when Mike was there…I think it was Mike’s last year and Joe’s only year there. I guess he would make as much sense as anyone…Thibodeaux and Ah You included.
Ah ok thanks Brian, I knew they had some sort of overlap.
Kinda like Kish..huh?
and Kittles…but this guy isn’t an old white guy so who knows s
didn’t his name come up briefly when shipp was shipped
I thought I heard his name last year before Diron was chosen.
What was there line like last year, was it any good. Granted they dont have the same athletes we do. Was just curious. He definitely looks to have intensity. But can he adapt to the #OUDNA?
I’m not sure how their line performed, they are playing in ML’s offense so I assume they just have to be good enough to create some stops and let the offense do its work.
I don’t see it happening but oh the comedy if we landed texsa DL coach
Dont hire Casillas, he’s still trying to find Barry Sanders…
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/1287594/barry-sanders-o.gif
Thats hilarious. Which way did he go George, which way did he go?
I tore my ACL just watching that
I knew Barry was good, but even after all these years he is still injuring people. WOW!!!!
He was amazingly good. Have to wonder what he could’ve done behind the Dallas OL
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I think that Casillas, #75, who has lost sight of Barry.
I dont know if Tony ever lived that one down.
I dont know if Tony ever lived that one down.
Hahahahaha Classic!
Casillas has a College NC ring and Two Super Bowl rings, none of which Barry Sanders was able to win.
Now, that’s strange.
Team sport. If the question is who was greater at their position hands down Sanders.
for sure !!
I see the Pokes got Barry Sanders Jr!
This is how I expect OS-WHO’s running game to perform next year, enjoy…
Was that a KSU linebacker that made that tackle…?
Looked like a wildcat to me.
Linebacker kitty!
Scott Hill v Tony Dorsett!
https://youtu.be/54EV42w4_t0
Hahahahahaha!!!!!!
OU with 7 to the combine = OU has lots of high quality playing time to replace. I’m least worried about both lines and our backfield; but LB and the secondary + quarterback depth have me concerned. Its going to be exciting to see who steps up this spring and if Kelly and Parker can get playing time as freshman this fall.
https://twitter.com/kylefredrickson/status/697873605737091072
No surprise there.
Conspiracy Theory: David Shaw and Bob are very close off the field. Shaw knows that he has a star in Diron and that Hart is only staying for one more year. Bob knows he has star in Monty and opportunity comes for Monty to learn from Capers for one year. Bob and Shaw agree on 1 year training year for both. Let Monty go learn from Capers and Diron comes and runs a DL unit and recruit for one year. That is why Monty’s twitter has never changed and why Diron’s family never moved to OK. Win win all the way around!!!!
I know this is absolutely insane but hey what if it was true???
Don’t worry I already thought of this conspiracy, so you’re not alone.
Ha!
If Monty learnt something from Capers then I could live with this happening
Monty also worked for Greg Mattison at Michigan, who is a highly respected DL coach. I think he’s the only coach Harbaugh retained.
Well he didn’t show last go around so if he learnt something from Capers then Id be all for it…recruiting wise heck yeah! Coaching wise meh..maybe the better talent will help. He had Phillips last time but looks like more talent to push each other this time
and Mark Jackson found out Monty was coming back and decided to commit on the spot after backing off when he left for GB
Not to mention since Monty has been an NFL employee there are no recruiting rules on him so the class of 2017 is going to be unreal because he has been able to contact at will for the last year all the guys he wants!!!!
and monty loves ms
What have you guy’s been smoking this afternoon?
I only smoke cigars on very rare occasion! I actually love making fun of conspiracy theory people, but when reading the board today something made my mind click what if. So I thought today I would be a person I like making fun of.
What have you guy’s been smoking this afternoon?
Well then, the key question is: did Monty’s family move to Green Bay or are they still in Norman?
You know, there’s been a lot of talk about OU not recruiting Texas very well. There’s more talk about OU recruiting nationally. You know what, Cal, USC, UCLA are dipping their fingers in Texas and Oklahoma. What gives? They have one of the most fertile recruiting areas in the country.
Because of guys like this…
http://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/157/688/7_688157.jpg
Ouch!!! That hurts. That man has more forehead than he has a frontal lobe to fill it up. Yep, there’s a cavity in there, which makes him ‘cussion prone.
Ouch!!! That hurts. That man has more forehead than he has a frontal lobe to fill it up. Yep, there’s a cavity in there, which makes him ‘cussion prone.
KJ,
Have you heard anything about who they are talking about for dline coach.
No nothing, I asked yesterday. We dont even have an assistant right now because CJ is gone.
Thanks. This will be interesting to see who emerges as the leading candidate.
How are you, KJ?
Good Sam how are things?
Good. Thanks!
I hope we get the best coach in the land. You know, the MAC conference isn’t a bad place to look for a DL coach or maybe a few ACC schools.
Because of guys like this…
http://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/157/688/7_688157.jpg
You know, there’s been a lot of talk about OU not recruiting Texas very well. There’s more talk about OU recruiting nationally. You know what, Cal, USC, UCLA are dipping their fingers in Texas and Oklahoma. What gives? They have one of the most fertile recruiting areas in the country.
A 5’8″ running back?
What’s your point?
Just thought we learned our lesson with the Roy Finch experiment.
Finch had his moments…the broke ankle he gave the Bama backer trying to cover his screen route was greatness
Not saying he was terrible but he never made the impact that bigger backs have made in this style of offense. Perine/Mixon/Murray/Peterson/Brown/Patrick made the defense respect the run and made the offense two dimensional. The scat back made it more one dimensional than two. I guess that’s how I would best explain my point.
Lincoln actually prefers the scats or smaller backs I believe. He just worked with what he inherited. Maybe he will change his mind a bit and we grab both types moving forward
What he inherited worked well. I’d love to have Dobbins and we will probably land him soon but having a troop of small RB’s is where I’m concerned.
That has more to do with how good those bigger backs were, and not so much how “not good” Finch was. I’d say Quentin Griffin did pretty well as a smaller back.
Truth is, I want both types. There is an advantage to having both.
Mean we have Anderson in the fold and Adams. I still believe Perine or Mixon one will be back after next season anyway, but still believe we take 2-3 in this class, and if one is a true scat back so be it. I love the small shift smaller backs!
Finch was 5’5 and 160 soaking wet. This guy is 193 now & will be 200 by time he gets here. That’s powerful.
Nothing wrong with having a scat back, Q, Finch, and JG! All where scat backs and change of pace guys for us!
JG is Jacob Gutierrez btw
I was wondering who you were referring too lol.
better known as Gute
We’re already about to get one.
Well we will probably take 2-3 in this class any way.
That’s exactly right. Say… are you texting and driving? That’s lllegal you know.
I am at work on my computer lol. The profile pic I had just pulled in at work and took that, I am not always smart but, I make smart choices that won’t affect others tho!
that feller below is the best RB ever, he is only 5′ 8″
Sanders.
His maxpreps bio has him at 5′-8″ 197lbs as a junior and he looks every bit of that. Put another 10-15lbs on him at that height and that kid will be a bowling ball and even harder to tackle. I think by the way he catches the ball he’d be a hell of a fit for LR’s offense. I’m not sure he’d be an every down guy but use him in that Mixon role and he’d excel.
Ray Rice – 5’8″
Darren Sproles – 5’6″
Quentin Griffen – 5’7″
Noel Divine – 5’8″
Shane Vereen – 5’9″
Dion Lewis – 5’8″
I was about to post this as well well Rice, Sproles, Lewis, and Divine lol I had already mentioned Q
Walter Payton
Robert Newhouse
Barry Sanders
Joe Washington
Kenny King
all under 6′
Greg Pruitt as well, right?
Adrian Peterson – 6’1″
LeVeon Bell – 6’1″
Derrick Henry – 6’3″
Todd Gurley – 6’1″
Reggie Bush – 6’1″
Arian Foster – 6’1″
DeMarco Murray – 6’0″
So, really, it’s almost as if height isn’t an important factor for a great running back. Things that make you go “hmmmmm”.
Your point was made by questioning shorter guys, I was showing you that just because someone was short doesn’t mean they can’t be high level, high production backs.
But thanks for the repetition!
Samaje Perine – 5’10” ??☕️
I think Devante will be the surprise in that group at the combine.
My bet is on Tapper.
That stutter-step in Edwards-Helaire’s first highlight was NASTY. Poor defender may need new ankles.
Edwards-Helaire told TFB he has been in communication with the OU coaches, and more specifically spoke with Jay Boulware on Wednesday night saying of their conversation, “I feel very close to him.”
FYI, so no firing Boulware until after LOI ink is dry in 2017.
Feel like the contrarian today but that’s not necessarily true.
K has a post up on a possible d-line coach candidate: https://thefootballbrainiacs.com/ou-oklahoma-sooners-football-ron-burton-michigan-state-defensive-line-coach-diron-reynolds-bob-stoops
Not a lot of film on Delpit but I do like what I see.
Phil Steele
@philsteele042
Current Odds to win 2016 National Title from @Westgate_LV
Alabama 6-1
Oklahoma 7-1
Clemson 7-1
Ohio St 10-1
Did he run this by Stephen Dale? I think not.
LOL!! Thanx! I needed a good laugh.
Stephen, thank you for being a good sport. I wish you nothing but love and joy in your life and have no malice behind my barbs. Boomer!
Tulsa Memorial DE Isaiah Thomas is visiting OU this weekend.
He’s a big dude with offers from Tennessee and Missouri!
Need Super K to contact him for feedback.
update added
Great Update!
Wait so I saw some were that the ou was going to the sec in 2020 is that true?
If not Sooner.
Stoops’ professional partner in the AT&T ProAm at Pebble Beach is just 3 off the lead at -5.
Coach getting to see some great golf first hand.
http://www.golflive24.com/pga-tour/at-t-pebble-beach-pro-am/
ProAm leaderboard has Gibson / Stoops at -6, 5 shots back- so, that means Stoops fired a -1
States’ budget crises growing, could affect CFB season!?!?!?
https://www.seccountry.com/louisiana-state/louisiana-governor-you-can-say-farewell-to-college-football-next-fall
Hate to defend anything LSU, but their athletic department was top 5 in the country in giving money back to the school. About 19 million if memory serves.
Would be pretty dumb to cancel something both profitable, and something that gives back to help alleviate the budget crisis.
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Clyde was so happy to get a OU offer he committed to L$U