Open Post | Monday, Feb. 23rd

– Rodarius Williams: The 2016 cornerback comes from a team, Calvary Academy (Shreveport, LA) that is loaded with D-I talent. How loaded you ask? So much so that three of the team’s four starting defensive backs currently hold an offer from OU. Yes, you read that correctly. Oklahoma has offered Williams, his twin brother Andraez, and Chanse Sylvie.

I had a chance to catch up with Rodarius over the weekend after he and his brother, Andraez, were offered by OU late last week. They are both excited and said they love Kerry Cooks. Williams said they are expecting to speak with Bob Stoops very soon as well. Williams and his twin brother are in the process of trying to arrange a visit to Norman, and one would expect that to most likely be for OU’s upcoming Jr. Day on March 7th. However, the twins already have a previous commitment for a Louisiana-Lafayette Jr. Day on the 7th made prior to the Sooners reaching out. So it remains to be seen whether they will be able to reschedule or simply choose to visit OU some at some other time.

Right now, however, both brothers are very high on the Sooners. One of the main reasons for that is their fondness for OU is shared by their teammate, Chanse Sylvie. I asked Rodarius about his relationship with Chanse and he said, “he’s like a brother from another mother. We are very close. Chanse is why we (both twins) like OU so much and can’t wait to visit.”

Assuming March 7th doesn’t work out, the date that makes the most sense to potentially get all three teammates on campus at the same time looks to be April 11th for the Red/White game. If not then, Rodarius said he wanted to get a schedule from the OU staff and try to get up at some point to take in an OU practice in-person.

We’ve seen a number of Louisiana offers going out by the OU staff of late and that’s certainly not a coincidence. This is definitely something Jerry Montgomery was working to establish prior to his departure, and it would appear Kerry Cooks has picked up right where Montgomery left off. It’s a move that has always made a ton of sense for OU as the state of Louisiana is always loaded and LSU can’t take them all. – (Brandon)

– 2016 D-line recruiting: With OU’s recent hiring of Diron Reynolds, we wanted to do a little digging over the weekend to see where things stood for the Sooners and some of their top recruiting targets following the coaching change. As of Sunday morning, most of the defensive line prospects we had a chance to speak and/or message with had yet to hear Reynolds. Almost all have, however, heard from Bob Stoops.

The good news is it’s still plenty early enough that, even with the coaching change, most have not written OU off. Some, like 2016 DE Isaiah Chambers (Houston, TX), have OU still very high on their board. However, one that is up in the air at the moment is McTelvin Agim (Hope, AR).

While normally a pretty quiet young man, he has been open in the past about growing up as an OU fan. And, for the most part, was high on Sooners in large part because of the relationship he had developed with Jerry Montgomery. So when the now former OU assistant left for an NFL job, it definitely appears to have hurt OU’s chances with Agim.

I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s a lost cause at this point, because I do still believe Diron Reynolds will have a chance to get back in it. But when I spoke with Agim, he was open and honest about not being sure where OU stands at the moment. When I asked if he had any plans to try and visit Norman, he said “I don’t know. Just have to see how it all plays out.” Which raised my eye brows a little, so I followed that up by asking him if Monty leaving ruined it for OU. His response wasn’t definitive, but it wasn’t good either. “It did a little, but Coach (Bob) Stoops is still a good coach so I’m still liking them some.”

Not exactly what you all want to hear, but it had to be somewhat expected if for no other reason than how instrumental Montgomery had been with Agim all along. We’ll just have to wait and see if Reynolds can make up the ground OU appears to have lost. – (Brandon)

– 2015 NFL Combine: We had the Combine post up all weekend and updated it with the official workout numbers, but I just wanted to add a couple quick thoughts now that all but one (Julian Wilson will take part in the DB workouts today) of the OU guys have finished up.

First, I thought Blake Bell and Daryl Williams were definitely the two OU guys who helped themselves the most. Bell ran a solid forty time for a guy his size and showed the soft hands we saw at times (in the somewhat rare instances in which OU actually utilized a tight end) last season. He’s obviously a project having only played the position for one year, but after the way he performed over the weekend I’d be pretty surprised if he goes undrafted.

As for Williams, heading into the weekend most were projecting him anywhere from the 2nd to the 4th round. Coming out of the weekend, however, I even saw some talk of him possibly making the case for being a first round pick. I always expected his athleticism to surprise some as I really felt like many people weren’t giving him the credit he deserved. And based on a lot what I read following his workout, it would appear he proved me right.

If you consider Dorial Green-Beckham an ‘OU guy’ — and I know many of you do not — there is certainly an argument to be made that he also helped his case. While his measurables were nearly identical to that of Calvin Johnson, DGB was never going to match Megatron’s other-worldly forty time. That said, DGB’s time was more than respectable for a guy his size and you just know there’s at least one NFL GM who won’t be able to ignore his physical tools and be willing to look past the red flags while making him a first round draft pick.

I’d put Tyrus Thompson in a category of not hurting himself over the weekend, but also not really doing as much as he could have to help his draft stock. Probably include Jordan Phillips here as well, who didn’t run as well as he’d hoped but is still an absolute freak for a guy his size. The one critique you continue to hear regarding Phillips, though, is his tape and how he tends to disappear at times.

In terms of OU guys who didn’t appear to help themselves, I hate to say it but in my estimation both Adam Shead and Geneo Grissom fall into this category. Shead didn’t necessarily surprise me given all the injuries he’s dealt with during his time in Norman, but I was surprised by Grissom’s performance. He has always been a guy with a bunch of physical gifts, so for him to turn in the times he did and look a little stiff at times was not what I expected to see. I would expect both to fully participate in all the drills at OU’s Pro Day on March 11th to try and improve on what they put up over the weekend. – (Jordan)

297 Comments

  • Defend Colfax says:

    Monday Monday

  • Defend Colfax says:

    So Esco, is Julian Wilson going to get drafted?

    • Defend Colfax says:

      Better question is what would he have to do at the combine to get drafted?

      • Jordan Esco says:

        Probably run a 4.3 something. And he could totally prove me wrong here in a little bit, but I’ve just never been a believe in his track speed that everyone always tells me he has.

        • dahldennsull says:

          Well it’s all relative. Think he has elite top speed, but isn’t quick or twitchy to get there quick enough to show it. He always seemed to excel on relay teams in HS, where he could be the anchor or someone with a running head start before the baton was passed to him. Maybe 40 yards is long enough to hit that top speed and post a good time, but I would be suprised if his 10 yard split is overly impressive.

          • Jordan Esco says:

            all fair points

          • Stephen Dale says:

            hopefully all these guys are scheduled for their degrees soon… they’ll need that degree to enter the workforce……………

          • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

            Agreed on all. Julian did some second leg in the relays. Second isn’t where the speedsters are put. However, in one video Julian gets the baton and makes up the stagger (and them some). It was clear how fast he was.

        • D Hunter Sanchez says:

          This. I think he ‘s a decent 4.5 guy. But I’ve read that he is fast than that. If so it didn’t translate to the field.

        • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

          I think he has good straight line speed; pretty good turnover and top end speed.

        • ratman says:

          Ran a 4.59 I heard. Not good.

    • Super K says:

      Man, I hope he kills it.

      • Defend Colfax says:

        Me too, after his junior season i told myself he would probably be a better pro. Would love to see the Steelers give him an invite to camp at least if he’s not drafted. I think he could do well in some systems.

        • Super K says:

          At nickel he always had helped in the middle. I still think with some technical work and time to rep in a square position he can surprise people on the outside. But regardless I just hope he can carve out a place for himself as inside CB somewhere. Kid did nothing but work hard and rep OU well but had such a rough end to his career. I’d love to see fate smile on him.

          • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

            It seems that his speed helped him out a bit during the season, helped him hide a few technical inefficiencies. He plays pretty high. That’s understandable for someone 6’1″+, but he seemed to rely on his sprint speed to cover up people.

          • albsooner says:

            I would love to see him go to Seattle and get mentored by Sherman. At least looking at body type, he reminds me of Sherman.

    • HoustonChiver says:

      If you read his analysis on NFL.com it basically reads “Man this guy looks the part, but is awful.” It’s rather brutal. Unless he posts gaudy numbers I, unfortunately, doubt he gets drafted.

      Here’s a quote, “He’s got the size and speed to make you give the tape a second look, but once the tape starts running, you see all you need to. Can’t play.” — NFC West regional scout

  • Boom says:

    Hoping to hear a little about the quick twitch camp. Any positives?

  • Sooner Ray says:

    Surprises me a little that Reynolds hasn’t established a line of communication yet with our top targets. Hope he doesn’t waste any more time before getting in the game.

    • KJ1123 says:

      I hope he pushes hard this week. At least make contact. Not that twitter is the only way to reach out to kids, but it doesn’t look he’s following any of the ’16 targets and ’15 commits yet.

      • Super Keith says:

        He’s had a twitter account for 3 days. I suspect there are a few things that take precedent over following recruits on twitter.

        Like someone said above, if we’re hearing that he hasn’t made contact in a couple of weeks, then there’s a reason to start being a little concerned (a little).

        Recruiting has been around long before Twitter, and even though it’s a major tool these days, some of us older guys prefer to make actual contact (via the phone). I’m sure he’ll contact the guys he’s interested in soon.

    • Ed Cotter says:

      As voracious of a recruiter as Monty was, I would suspect that DR has heard that and would want to get after it to keep up the momentum going.

    • Drew says:

      To be fair, he’s probably rather busy, with being hired out halfway across the country after all. I don’t know if he has a family or not, but I’m sure planning the move is pretty time consuming regardless. And I’m sure that has priority at the moment, the recruits can wait.

      • Boom says:

        In addition, he may want to review film before he calls to make sure of the offer since they are going to be his guys.

    • Stephen Dale says:

      just me but Reynolds does not seem like the ‘homerun’ hire many expected OU to be able to bring in after Montgomery left—-and —-I think some recruits ( McTelvin Agim for one ) are likely to cross OU off their list as a result…some guys hit the ground running and others don’t. Given Reynolds is so inexperienced as a recruiter, it is not surprising he has failed to leave a footprint so far…..Others ( think Simmons & Cooks) will have to carry a larger burden………….

      • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

        @sooner_ray:disqus It has been 4 days…

      • J.r. Kamm says:

        He was hired last Thursday and you’re wondering why he doesn’t he have the ’16 DL class wrapped up yet?!?!?!
        Give it a break, dude.

        • D Hunter Sanchez says:

          I know Dale is negative nanny, but I think he’s going by the precedents set by LR, JM, KC, who were on twitter almost immediately after being announced. I know DR can coach the DL (NFL guy), but he is probably more like Kish and MS than JM when it comes to recruiting. That’s okay, because OU got NFL talented DL men before JM and will get them after. Perhaps we needed better coaching at that position.

      • Sooner Ray says:

        How do we know he wasn’t a home run? He hasn’t even picked his whistle up yet.

      • JB says:

        Whoa, Nellie! It is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too early to make that judgment. He just got hired, and he’s relocating from nearly 2,000 miles away. At least let him have enough time to pack and move. Let’s see where we are in 30 days from now.

    • Fear The Magic says:

      that was my first thought as well

    • Exiled In Ohio says:

      I suspect that the issue is that he’s not been a recruiter much. LR was obviously a recruiter before, and the first day he was hired he started working it. Reynolds first instinct is probably to start thinking about how how he will teach DL techniques. It will likely just require a (hopefully short) transition time for him to adjust his mindset. I’m convinced he will be good; we may just need a bit of patience.

    • Navy_UDT says:

      LMAO. He was just hired, arriving in Norman today. Damn people chill out for a change and stop fretting over nothing.

      • Sooner Ray says:

        I wasn’t fretting, ranting, or ripping the guy. Just said I was a little surprised he hadn’t sent a tweet or text saying I’m the new guy, look forward to visiting with you soon. Takes a few seconds. I’m sure he will be all over it soon.

    • ALar03 says:

      Yea i mean im sure him and his family was already packed and had a place to live in Oklahoma.. he has never had to recruit outside of campus, give it time he will learn the ropes soon enough! Plus the way recruits are these days its gonna be who is talking to them in december the most that makes up their mind!

  • Randy says:

    I would love to see OU get more into Arkansas it seems like a lot more talent here lately saying that I would think Agim would have stayed in state or in the SEC. Bentonville QB Kasey Ford intrigues me some.

  • Stephen Dale says:

    from some sources, Jordan Phillips did not help himself either ( per TOS)….

  • Daddy R says:

    Okay, if there are any “cord cutters” out there like me (you know, folks who forgo cable tv in lieu of internet, netflix, amazon, hulu, etc…), there is a new streaming service called SLINGTV, and they have ESPN!! I know many of you hate espn, but its where all the games are at! lol. Anyway, for $20 a month, no contracts, cancel anytime, you get ESPN, ESPN 2, and about 10 other good channels, like TNT and TBS (basketball and baseball). Its really a pretty sweet deal, and I signed up last night. I have been years without cable, and the only thing I have really missed were the sports games on those channels… So, if you’re a cord cutter, check it out!

    Sorry, I swear I’m not affiliated with this service in any way, other than I just signed up and I’m super excited to have games back and thought I’d share the news… 🙂

    • Jed says:

      Wonder if it has/had anything to do with Slingbox. Those used to be the only way to get games if you lived overseas….

      • Daddy R says:

        That is interesting. I am not sure on that one. I’ve just been using sketchy overseas sites the last few years to watch games! lol

        • Jed says:

          It was a pretty simple device, basically just took a video feed and rebroadcast it to a static IP. If you had a fast enough download on the receiving end (which most of Asia does) you could enjoy Oklahoma broadcast tv on the other side of the big water. Haven’t needed it since I moved back, so I don’t know if they’re even still made.

      • j l says:

        Nah, dish bought sling a couple years ago. Thats how you can access your dish DVR over the web.

        Its possible these are the same guys who built the original slingbox, but its not the same company.

    • boomersooner says:

      I make 5k a day working at home…so I’m good. Thanks tho

    • CS says:

      Thank you sir! I just joined the cord cutters club and was wondering where I will be watching OU football! This is fantastic!

      • ellisbr says:

        that’s been my biggest concern, I’ve wanted to give it a shot but I also don’t want to miss any OU games. does it get fox southwest? that seems to be a channel they are on a lot

        • Daddy R says:

          it does not currently. Can check out there website @sling.com

        • Carolina_Sooner says:

          I’m also a cord cutter and have signed up for Sling. They do have an add-on sports package but it currently doesn’t include Fox Sports. Hoping they work that out before next fall, otherwise its back to cable.

    • Drew says:

      I heard about this a few weeks ago, and was pretty interested. Keep me updated on how well this works for you, I wanna know if it’s as good as advertised. With Espn and TNT, you have all the main sports, but no Fox might end up hurting too much.

      • Daddy R says:

        I will. And no fox sports, but again, its just $20 a month. So to get NBA and most of football, I’m cool. I’m guessing they will be adding more and more programming as time goes on..

    • Travis Coyle says:

      Is it in HD?

    • EasTex says:

      I will stick with the cable unless or until these streaming services broadcast “LIVE” sports and “CURRENT” programming on cable channels. Watching last seasons Justified when the current season is showing doesn’t appeal to me.

      • Daddy R says:

        Im not much of a live tv guy, so “last seasons shows” are current for me, lol. Once you’re behind on shows, its all the same. A “new” season for me, is “last” season for you, but it doesnt really bother me to not watch live tv shows, other than sports. And on this SlingTV, they are all live channels, just like your cable channels. So the games will be live, as well as the food network shows, lol

    • Sooner 76 says:

      ESPN does some things right. Their FIFA World Cup coverage was A+ all the way. Just loved it. I’m not happy that Fox has the rights to the next one.

      OTOH, their college football coverage is so biased that I no longer watch any of their shows other than the games. Game Day is off limits for me.

      I love DirecTV because I get so many hockey and soccer game to go with the college football. I’m not much of a pro football fan or basketball fan.

    • MrBigsby says:

      I think he needed a sub 4.5 to get a serious look. Looking more and more like a FA deal, if anything at all.

      • Sooner 76 says:

        That’s too bad. Julian is an outstanding young man–a true student athlete. He will excel no matter what he does.

        • hemisooner says:

          He is outstanding young man that will do well outside of football. He will get a chance as FA. Remember seattle CB didnt run very well at the combine either

      • akryan says:

        TBF, it’s been a pretty slow group of DB’s overall. There are one or two burners, but lots of guys in the 4.5 – 4.6 range.

  • thebigdroot says:

    “The one critique you continue to hear regarding Phillips, though, is his tape and how he tends to disappear at times.”
    I thought this same thing at times this year. I didn’t know if he was getting doubled alot or if the effort wasn’t consistent.

    • Jordan Esco says:

      Gundy is a smart guy. He knows what everyone wants to hear. But we’ve also heard for how many years now how the TE was going to be a part of the offense. Or they were going to do X, Y & Z w/ the defense.

      I’m to the point now where nothing the coaches say affects me. I’ll believe what I see on the field, and only what I see on the field.

      • SoonerOracle737 says:

        I know what you are saying, but we have so much talent at RB they would be insane not to use it. They simply have to.

        • Sooner 76 says:

          I’m confident that they will run the ball alot, but also confident that they will take the defenses give them. Very important, however, to be able to run the ball when we really need to, and also to complete a pass when we really need it. We haven’t had that.

          • SoonerOracle737 says:

            Yes, agreed. A good run game will open up the passing too. One thing that I think is great about the Riley Air Raid are the multiple back sets that we can throw out of too. The defenses we face will have to be more honest and not crowd the LOS like last year all year long….sigh. Not being able to have a credible pass game did hurt our running game at times.

          • Sooner 76 says:

            Not being able to pass killed us against osu for certain. They knew we wouldn’t pass at the end and we had the ball 3 times in the last 7 minutes and didn’t throw a single pass.

            I think Mixon will be a beast catching the ball out of the backfield. If Perine can do the same, we should have an excellent offense, assuming we have good play from the QB.

      • Boom says:

        We didn’t use our TEs much due to the defensive schemes from the teams we’ve played over the last 3 years. ; )

      • Okie4Life says:

        I certainly don’t have a problem with reading comprehension, so I think it’s safe to say that this comment is just one exhibit out of literally hundreds that indicates your contempt for the coaching staff. I really don’t care whether you like them or not, (there are a few on staff I’m not enamored with) but it’s getting pretty old when anyone questions you about this, you get defensive and deny it. Everyone is entitled to an opinion–just admit it. Your opinion definitely colors your posts many times, and it’s really not fair to the readers for you to act as if it doesn’t.

        • thebigdroot says:

          Well I don’t know about your reading comprehension but your ability to make something out of nothing is quite evident. Nothing I read in his post suggested anything about contempt with the staff.

          • SoonerMGB56 says:

            Well root, I’m with Okie, in that my perception of the aggregation of Jordon’s comments here, and the questions in press conferences, are that he views the staff with substantial disdain, at a minimum.
            But that’s ok. He’s not the only one.
            I’m more of half full kind of guy. E.g., Josh H said we’d see more TE. We didn’t. But I’m not going to assume that means anything about the current staff and the schemes/playcalling going forward. Jordan chooses to doubt everything based on past incongruences. I choose to take Gundy at his word.

          • Jordan Esco says:

            And, based on recent years, my approach would be the correct one.

            Now, clearly that doesn’t necessarily mean that it will be again in 2015. But until I see something different, why wouldn’t I opt for what has been a more accurate predictor of things?

            Again, I’m having a really hard time understanding why what I think and/or choose to believe affects anyone else here. You all have every right to your opinion just like I do.

            If you want to take Gundy at his word, GREAT. More power to you. Why does that mean I have to? And if I choose not to, why does that then translate to me hating the OU coaches? That’s a wild leap to make and a significant twisting of my words, ESPECIALLY here in this my comment that for some stupid reason seems to have set off this whole thing, and even previous ones I’ve made as well.

            But at this point I’m done trying to convince anyone there I don’t hate the OU coaches. It’s completely ridiculous that I’d even have to in the first place, but you all think whatever you need to think.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            The beatings will continue until morale improves. 🙂

          • Jordan Esco says:

            WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS SO NEGATIVE???????????????????

          • Boom says:

            I guess the rub is, you work here at TFB and expectations (from some) are you should be positive. If you only commented and weren’t on staff, then you would get the normal bs. Also, you don’t let things digest at times and your emotions get the better of you. Happens to all of us.

          • Jordan Esco says:

            I’m not going to ignore the reality of things (at least as I see them) simply for the sake of pumping sunshine. That’s never been my style and it never will be.

            I’ll happily praise them when it is deserved, just as I’ll critique them when I feel that is warranted.

            In terms of letting my emotions get the better of me at times. I’m a fan, just like all of you. I’ve never claimed to be anything else. Just b/c I’m a contributor here doesn’t change that.

          • boomersooner says:

            this is the one i appreciate. you do give praise when it is due. some posters never have a good thing to say regardless of the subject, which is what i object to, but i have to give you credit here

          • Jackson1006 says:

            I love your posts Jordan and you are a great Sooner fan. I would advise however that you start playing the role of a leader which you are here (pick up any book on leadership in business etc). I am a leader in my profession. That doesn’t make me “the boss.” What it means is that I CANNOT in my work say what I really feel like everyone else. When you are a leader, your comments, thoughts, affects, etc are magnified and prone to misinterpretation and it is a 1:1 correlation (the higher you rise, more people interpret). You have to be mindful of setting the pace for the culture.

            So in my line of work I say things carefully. I give two or three genuine compliments before I set up a gentle correction. I’m not saying you have to pump sunshine twice before you go negative, but you have to tone things down. Does that mean you can’t be as direct/ vent like you want. Yes, it absolutely does. You can’t say things the same way all the time in a way that others on the site get away with. That is the sacrifice of leadership. We all appreciate your posts, love TFB, hope you know that, just trying to explain to you the repeating mechanisms involved here.

          • Jordan Esco says:

            You do things your way and I’ll do them mine. I’m going to say what I feel, that’s just who I am. Be it here or in my everyday life outside of TFB.

            I will be direct, and I will be honest. But I will also be fair (or at least try as hard as possible to be in my eyes).

            I don’t see a problem w/ any of that. Sorry if you don’t agree.

          • Herman Bubbert says:

            So you either have to buy in totally with what’s being said now, or you’re a “hater? That’s about as disingenuous as it gets, exacerbated by the clear track record of what’s come out of this program over the past few years as we’ve trended steadily downward.

          • Sooner 76 says:

            It’s not fair to accuse someone of hating, but it is fair to be specific about criticisms. Same with the players and coaches. Be specific what you criticize.

            You also can’t assume that things won’t change going forward. We have several new coaches and new players with new capabilities, so I expect to see things change.

          • thebigdroot says:

            Jordan- I think you have a stalker.

          • SoonerMGB56 says:

            Jordan, again with the overly defensive misstatement of what I said. I NEVER said you had to take Gundy at face value. I simply said I would, because I don’t recall him making misleading statements in the past, and I wouldn’t let misleading statements of coaches no longer here color my view of Gundy’s statements.
            I also NEVER said that you hate the coaches. When you attacked Okie, I said that MY PERCEPTION of the aggregation of the views you have expressed over the last several month, would indicate a very similar interpretation of your views on the staff. Didn’t say it was a fact, just that it’s not a totally unreasonable perspective. Didn’t say you weren’t entitled to your opinions. Didn’t say that you shouldn’t express your views. So I’m unsure why what I said seems to inspire such wrath for me.
            I did try and make a case for giving Cale the benefit of the doubt, in other areas in this thread. But I didn’t insist that my view was the correct one, as you did above. I just made a case for a different treatment of Cale’s comments. And after all, isn’t that the beauty of message boards, the exchange of differing perspectives.
            I just don’t get all the defensiveness, and the wrath. I’m just expressing my opinion. No where did I make any statement of fact as to what your opinions are. Why do I inspire such wrath from you?

          • thebigdroot says:

            Well we are talking about the internet where we post our opinions whether other people like them or not. If you don’t appreciate Jordans message there is an easy way to avoid them, don’t come to TFB.

          • SoonerMGB56 says:

            Root, where did I say I didn’t appreciate Jordan’s opinions? I appreciate the heck out of Jordan’s contributions. And I respect everyone’s opinions. Jordan got really defensive, and kind of went off on Okie for DARING to express his interpretation of Jordan’s remarks as contempt for the staff. I tend to interpret Jordan’s remarks in a similar fashion. I tend to think Jordan is deceiving himself if he thinks he’s not developed a negative perspective on OU’s staff. But that has no bearing on my view of Jordan as a contributor. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY APPRECIATE JORDAN’S CONTRIBUTIONS TO THESE DISCUSSIONS.

          • thebigdroot says:

            Well then why would you make an ordeal about his opinion on what the status que has been with this team for many years no? It’s been pretty common knowledge that this staff, under Bob Stoops, has been very vague and half truths. After the way this team played at times, several people have had a negative impression of this staff. Oh by the way I’m not taking anybody’s side, I just didn’t get that impression from what he posted.

          • SoonerMGB56 says:

            root, what has the past got to do with Riley? And the cited misleading remarks had nothing to do with Gundy. So why should they be painted with the same broad brush?
            And I’m not making an ordeal out of Jordan’s opinion. I wish he’d be honest with himself, and stop getting so defensive. But other than that, I really like what he contributes.

          • thebigdroot says:

            Honest with himself or agree that you know him better than he does himself?

          • SoonerMGB56 says:

            Root, all I’ve ever said was that my perception of Jordan’s opinions expressed over the last five months, since I’ve been frequenting this board, are that he has a very negative of opinion of Bob Stoops and the staff in general. And specifically in this thread, when Jordan went off on a poster that suggested he has a negative opinion, I said that would be my perception as well. I suggested that it was a fair perception of Jordan’s view on the staff, in that the poster he hammered was not the only one with that perception. I for one, have never seen Jordan post anything positive about the coaching staff, and he’s incredibly quick to post negatives. Leading to my perception (and others on this board) as to Jordan having a negative opinion of the staff. Even is this thread, he said that he would not trust anything that the staff said. Pretty negative. I have issues with the staff. I even have issues with Bob. But I don’t totally dismiss everything the staff says as propaganda. And I don’t color my perceptions of the new staff members, and/or all the staff members, with those of the carryovers. It seems that Jordan does.
            Tell me what I’ve said that is wrong or offensive, or any sort of personal attack on Jordan?

        • Jordan Esco says:

          Is it any more fair for the readers for you to tell me, once again, that you know what I think when you’re not me?

          I made a comment, not a post. And, yeah, it’s my opinion. That’s a lot of what I do here. And if you don’t like and/or respect my opinion, then the solution is pretty simple. Don’t read it. Won’t affect me in the slightest.

          I don’t have contempt for the OU coaches, as you’ve put it, rather I simply stated that I choose not to believe what they’re spinning after having been burned countless times in the past for having done so.

          HUGE leap for you to take that and turn it into contempt. But, again, don’t let things like facts get in the way of whatever it is you think you’re trying to accomplish.

          • Sooner 76 says:

            Although you do alot of good things on this site, Jordan, sometimes–but not always–you make snarky comments on what Bob says at press conferences. I don’t know whether you hate or dislke the coaches, only you know that, but I do consider the snarky remarks to be unprofessional.

            OTOH, you were very professional with your comments on Stoops’ post-signing day press conference, which I appreciated. In fact, some other media person made a snarky comment and you defended Stoops.

          • Jordan Esco says:

            I don’t think there is anything wrong w/ having fun w/ things at time, even if it involves some snark. If it’s constant, that’s a totally different story. But I don’t feel as though that’s the case. Sometimes, IMO, you just have to make fun of life to help cope. But we all have our own ways of dealing w/ things.

          • Sooner 76 says:

            There were a couple of press conferences where it was constant and that was annoying.

            But like I said, you do a lot of good things on this site.

          • Jordan Esco says:

            I guess I’ll try to work on it then. Next time say something at the time, and I’ll gladly stop 🙂

          • Sooner 76 says:

            Thank you, Jordan. I will. And keep up the good work on this site. 🙂

        • Herman Bubbert says:

          Esco isn’t saying anything here that some of us don’t agree with. We’ve been led by the primrose path by this staff before, and the head coach is still here. Show me on the field. Until then, I’m really not interested in rhetoric.

          • SoonerMGB56 says:

            Herman, how is it that we’ve been led down the path by this staff? This staff as currently configured on offense (what we’re talking about, correct?) didn’t exist prior to a few weeks ago.

          • Jackson1006 says:

            Probably the first and last time anyone on this site will use the “primrose path” allusion 😉 I laughed. Maybe do an inside joke from now and use the phrase all the time 🙂

        • Syria Esco says:

          This isn’t the Soviet Union. One musn’t be 100% behind our leaders at all times to be considered a fan.
          I think Bob has been pitiful for 7 years. And after last year, it’ll take more than just words to make me change my mind.

          • BoomerDave says:

            Pitiful?? Seriously? Since 2007, Bob has one 3 outright Big XII Titles and tied for another. I’m guessing that you are related to Jordan, lol.

          • SoonerMGB56 says:

            I’m assuming you are related to Jordan. Well Syria, as I’ve said numerous times, even in this thread, I appreciate Jordan, and completely support his right to his opinions. I’ve never suggested that he is not a bona fide fan. I’ve simply suggested he’s deceiving himself as to his neutrality. Further I’ve suggested that the new coaches be given a break re any perceptions of distrust based on the past.
            As for your opinion of Bob, that’s cool. Some of my best buddies agree with you. I think it’s a bit of a harsh assessment, but you’re entitled.

      • Jed says:

        True, but we must have BLATHER for the next six months, else go insane. Allow us our silly hopes and dreams!

      • Bob Edwards says:

        Jordan, I am one of those that usually give the coaches the benefit of the doubt, however I agree with you on this one. They have a tendency to say a lot of things that they don’t seem to follow through with. Now, I think part of that is that things just don’t work out the way they plan, but then stop talking and just say “We will have to wait to see how things go once the season starts.”

        • Jordan Esco says:

          And that’s totally cool.

          I’m not telling anyone else how they should think/feel. If you want to trust/believe the coaches this offseason, more power to you.

          I won’t be. But obviously that doesn’t mean anyone here has to follow suit.

          • SoonerMGB56 says:

            There you go. You just said you won’t trust or believe in the coaches. How is that indicative of anything other than a negative viewpoint on the staff.
            And for all intents and purposes, for the offense, it’s a totally new staff. Yet your views towards the old staff are being applied to the new. Or perhaps it’s just your view towards Bob Stoops being applied to all?
            Again, whatever. It’s cool. Diversity of opinion is what makes boards interesting. You’re not offensive, nor do you attack any other posters.
            It’s all cool.

          • Herman Bubbert says:

            Trust without proof is a fool’s errand.

          • SoonerMGB56 says:

            Herm, I’ve got 16 years of proof with Gundy. Show me something he’s said that was misleading. We are talking about Gundy, Simmons, Bouleware and Riley. Not Heupel or Norvell.
            Gundy didn’t make any of the pronouncements that Jordan and others are basing their distrust on. Nor for that matter, did Riley, or Simmons.

          • Jordan Esco says:

            He’s also not the person responsible for calling the plays, nor is he any longer the one responsible for coaching RBs. So wouldn’t your trust then be somewhat misplaced on both accounts seeing as how he won’t be responsible for how many times OU does or doesn’t run it and/or the players who would be doing the actual running of the football?

          • SoonerMGB56 says:

            OMG Jordan. Wouldn’t your distrust based on past be misplaced against coaches that were not part of the past?
            My trust in Gundy is based on 1) the fact he’s been a straight shooter in the past, 2) that he’s now Assoc. HC on the offense, which I’m assuming will give him substantive input into the gameplan’s and playcalling, 3) he’s spent quite a bit of time with Riley lately, upon which to base his opinion of what Riley is contemplating, and 4) the fact that I have no basis upon which to be distrustful of Riley.
            My only basis for distrust of coaches comments would be toward Heupel. And I choose to not allow that to color my perception of Riley and the offensive staff, as currently configured, since they had no part in that.

          • Jordan Esco says:

            Is Bob still the HC? Yes? Okay, then I’m comfortable w/ where I’m at on things.

          • SoonerMGB56 says:

            Not sure I’m understanding your point here. Are you saying that because Bob Stoops is HC, we can assume the most everything coming out of any coach’s mouth is propaganda? If not, can you clarify a bit?

          • Jordan Esco says:

            Whatever, man. If you want to have blind faith in the staff in spite of the reality of things, be my guest. If you think my refusal to do the same is a “negative viewpoint” then, again, be my guest.

            As you’ve said, to each their own. fwiw, I hope you’re right and I’m wrong.

          • SoonerMGB56 says:

            Hey Jordan. How am I having blind faith? What “reality” as regards Cale Gundy am I overlooking? Or Riley?

          • Jordan Esco says:

            The reality that Gundy isn’t calling plays, thus will have no real say in how much or how little OU will run the ball next season.

            If you want to ignore Riley’s history of being a pass-first guy based on absolutely nothing other than (1) he said he’s going to run it and (2) the fact OU has a great stable of RBs then I obv can’t tell you that you’re wrong. I don’t know that. BUT you also don’t know that I’m wrong either. b/c we’ll simply have to wait and see.

          • SoonerMGB56 says:

            Jordan, I never said you were wrong. And I’m not ignoring anything. I’m basing my willingness to accept Cale’s statements at face value, based on the fact the % of run plays at ECU was 45% in 2013 and 48% in 2012 when Riley had a quality RB. And only one. And not nearly as talented as the crew he has available at OU. In other years when his RB talent was not there, it was 40% run, or so. By comparison, Leach has thrown the ball 65-70% on average. Riley has even incorporated some QB run game the last few years, and some QB under center and some power sets. That implies that Riley understands the importance of the run schemes and play calling, and he’s not stubbornly dedicated to passing it 60 times a game. I’m also basing my willingness to accept what Cale said, for now, because I don’t recall Cale ever making misleading statements before. I know Josh didn’t follow through on all he said, and I know Bob can be evasive. But I’m not basing my perception of Riley and Cale based on them. But I don’t see where that is blind faith. ?????

          • D Hunter Sanchez says:

            In reality, I think LR would like to have a 4th receiver that gets open rather than a TE.

          • SoonerMGB56 says:

            Maybe. We’ll see.

            If LR is the kind of OC I think/hope he is, all he cares about is getting favorable match ups he can exploit. Whether it’s a TE, FB, HB, RB, WR, or ET(phone home), I don’t think he cares, as long as he can exploit it.

      • DCinAZ says:

        I agree with you on that but I just don’t think there’s ANY WAY they can ignore what they have in their backfield and retain any sort of credibility. I think the TE fiascos were more to do with Heupel than anything.

        • BoomerDave says:

          I think the TE “fiasco” as you put it has as much to do with the TE’s as much as anything. When we had really good ones, we threw to them. The QB’s usually throw to those receivers who they can trust to run a precise route and get open. I don’t really think Josh ever said “don’t throw to the TE’s”.

          • Boom says:

            Interesting, James Hanna wasn’t thrown to but he’s been playing for the Cowboys and doing well for 3 years or so. Also, Blake Bell will get drafted so it was more of an OC problem than a TE problem.

          • BoomerDave says:

            Hanna was thrown to quite a bit towards the end of his SR season. Plus, it’s not like he sees much action or has many catches for Dallas so I’m not sure he is a good example to make your argument. As for Bell getting drafted, that remains to be seen. Most experts think FA is his bet bet.

          • Boom says:

            Hanna averaged 2 catches a game his sr yr. No TE catches a pass unless his name is Witten. My point is OU said he couldn’t block and was average at catching. Maybe but he’s cashing checks in the NFL. My point is, JH wouldn’t use a TE but played one to please Stoops. We had TEs.

      • BoomerDave says:

        So…Gundy is just saying what he thinks the fans want to hear? Regardless whether it’s true or not? Cite instances when you’ve known Gundy not to be straight-forward.

      • Indy_sooner says:

        But they didn’t have Cale at WR coach tho… They_iz__totally_serious, cuz
        Cautious optimism that we’ll be able to rip 60 points with the flip of a switch.

    • Daddy R says:

      Interesting and encouraging comments on Rodney Anderson..

      • EasTex says:

        I knew RA was a beast from watching him play in four straight state championship games. There are/were two areas I thought he needed to improve on, upper body strength and ball security. Often those two go together. It sounds like his winter workouts are benefiting his upper body strength.

      • SoonerSalesman says:

        Did someone say my name???

    • KJ1123 says:

      How about “We are going to win ALOT of games..period” 🙂

    • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

      I expect OU to run the ball 42-45% of the time.

      • EasTex says:

        I don’t have any expectations other than a potent offense. With the RBs OU has it wouldn’t bother me one bit if some of their carries are instead receptions.

        • Bob Edwards says:

          This is one of the things to keep in mind with the spread offense and percentage passes. Many of the “passes” are essentially running plays. When the WR or RB gets the ball behind the line of scrimmage with two or three people in front of him, that is essentially a running play. It counts as a pass because of how they keep stats, but from the standpoint of how it plays out it is more of a running play.

          • EasTex says:

            The advantage being talented runners can find natural lanes with the spread out field.
            That was one of the aspects I liked most of the spread offenses I first saw in the mid 80’s.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            Yeah, I am wondering if this offense won’t help Ross some. He is great if you can get him a nice hole, but seems to struggle when he has to find one. A more wide open field might be to his advantage in that case.

          • EasTex says:

            They did a “sports science” piece on Ross with Jessica Coody(sp?) during the season and the science guy at OU analyzed how explosive Ross was and in short to long distances. It appears his explosive acceleration is what makes him such a home run threat and also why he can’t make cuts without slowing down. Wish I could find the video from that show.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            Yeah, for some reason he reminds me of Hershel Walker in that regard. He seemed to always do best when he could run straight line.

          • DCinAZ says:

            Makes sense. I’ve read a lot of people criticizing Ross as not being a very good RB which I think is ridiculous. I’ve always maintained that he’s a certain type of back. He’s the biggest home run threat we have out there IMO. He’s not a flashy back that will get 5-7 yards per carry because he’s stiff and doesn’t have great lateral movement. He’ll have short gains or stuffs mixed in with giant swaths of yardage ripped off on a single carry. If he gets the slightest crease, nobody has a chance at catching him.
            Ross always starts off a little slow until he finds his rythm and then he starts ripping off giant patches of grass. That’s who he is and he doesn’t suck. You just have to be patient and he’ll deliver.

          • Defend Colfax says:

            True. I would love to see more motion in this offense. We never had time for anything like that in the “Heupr speed” offense we were running. You know with the screaming and clapping at the end of the playclock and all.

          • Jed says:

            I don’t disagree, but one of the few bright spots on our offense last year was Ross’ improvement. Both his vision and his ability to do something with it saw marked improvement as the season wore on.
            Hell, by the last couple of games he was actually making cuts and making people miss.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            Oh, I like Ross. But some guys that are really fast have trouble cutting, basic physics gets in their way. I am hoping that the new OC can actually recognize strengths and weakness of each player and put them in situations where they can succeed. The last few years we seemed to try and make every RB fit the same mold. Fact is they don’t.

        • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

          Right. I think the focus will be to pass to set up the run. If we can run or pass off of one basic offensive structure, then the back 7 of any team will have a hard time stopping either. Packaged plays please!

          Perine can take care of the power and inside zone. Let’s not stop there. He can also excel at screens and outside zones.

          It seems to me that Ross would be deadly on wheel routes and outside zones. His speed is exhausting. I’d also like to see Ross execute counter, a staple of Urban Meyer.

          Check that, Mixon on a proper counter. He’d be gone.
          I’m not complete sure if a proper counter is in Lincoln’s play book, but watching them play Va. Tech they often pulled a guard and seemed to have the basic concepts for a counter, if memory serves me right.

          http://youtu.be/9qhg9YsKkxc

          • Boom says:

            Now all we got to do is find the fastest guy in America and recruit him.

          • EasTex says:

            Back in the mid-80’s Coach Dennis Parker became the HC at my old high school in Marshall, Texas. He brought in a coach as OC by the name of Tom Thrower, who had led SE Missouri St. to a number of championships.
            His was the first high school spread offense I had seen and while it had some similarities to what was then called the “West Coast” offense in was different in that it was a run heavy offense.
            It was a spread with multiple sets. Each play, pass or run, looked identical to one another from the defenses perspective and kept the LBs on their heels. The OC would evaluate how the defense reacted to each formation and to the motion man and would have plays ready for every contingency, while also adjusting for defenses strengths.
            It was simple and fun to watch a 5’7″ 175lb RB carve up a defense and fast/quick WRs burn DBs when they got to close at the line of scrimmage.
            From their State Championship game(part one) in the Astrodome Marshall 21-Converse Judson 19. BTW, the MLB for Marshall #44 became a Sooner, Tremayne Green.
            http://youtu.be/K2PbW83d-mA

          • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

            Nobody doesn’t like constraint plays. Perhaps Josh did constraint plays better than I think. Doesn’t seem that he made defenses pay for “cheating” or “over-adjusting.”

      • SoonerMGB56 says:

        L’Carp expects 42-45% run; I expect OU to run the ball 55-60% of the time.
        Truth is, none of us know, but since JH is gone, and with it, his resistance to TE’s, RB’s etc., I’m giving benefit of doubt here. Gundy usually is a straight shooter, and my research on Riley is consistent with Gundy’s statement to the effect that Riley’s offense has roots in Leach’s, but that’s the end of the comparison.
        Maybe I’m drinking koolaid, but it seems his offense at ECU was much more versatile than pure Air Raid, and evolved based on talent at hand and defensive schemes of opponents. And I would expect another level of evolution here.
        My guess would be that we’ll see everything from 5 wides to diamond. Think he’ll make use of versatile assets like Flowers, D Wood, Ross, Mixon, Ford, etc., with lot’s of formations and motion without changing personnel, to create favorable matchups.
        And if the QB play allows, I think we’ll play fast.
        But all of us, including the TFB team, are guessing. We’ll know more after spring practice, and more still by mid-season, etc.

        • Bob Edwards says:

          Actually I think that L’Carp is probably closer to right but we will find other ways to get the ball into the RB’s hands. Number of touches by the RB’s is probably a better measure than % running.

          • EasTex says:

            The number of touches by RBs is the measurement I think is important.

          • SoonerMGB56 says:

            Your point about touches is a strong one. I’m just looking at Riley’s evolution from early ECU, to later ECU, and projecting potential further evolution here. There were a couple of recent years where the number of actual runs exceeded the number of passes called. And that is with substantially less RB talent and OL talent, than he’ll now have at his disposal.
            Maybe I’m being naïve. Because if L’Carp is right, I don’t see us getting back into the level we all want. I’m just a believer that you can’t win major championships without running it more than you throw, and without a physical power running foundation.

      • Sooner_Ace says:

        Including swings and screens (extension of the run game)? If swings and screens are included that number could 55%-60%..my 2 cents

    • Sooner Ray says:

      I listened to that podcast the other day, made me feel good about things but we shall see.

      • EasTex says:

        Yessir, only 6+ months to find out.

      • EasTex says:

        North Louisiana is pulp wood country. You should see some of the physical specimens in that part of the country. Those kids in the Monroe and Ruston areas epitomize “country strong.”

        • Boom says:

          That’s pup wood. 🙂

        • SoonerOracle737 says:

          I went to HS with a guy who hauled pulp wood for a living in SE Oklahoma. He later won a Tough Man contest in Texarkana. He was a beast, so I can attest to the toughness of those guys coming from that particular neck of the woods…

          • EasTex says:

            Those guys, I swear!
            There was a man that harvested pine trees from my grandparent’s farm in NW La. He was independent, worked alone and did all the cutting, trimming, loading and hauling to the mill by himself. He was tireless and as a pre-teen that had started lifting weights with my older brothers I was not only impressed with his work ethic, but with how massive his muscles were, particularly his arms and back. The only “guns” I’ve ever seen bigger were on some of the steroid freak body builders.

          • HartRod says:

            @SoonerOracle737 -> What was his name? I know a guy that sounds just like that 🙂

          • SoonerOracle737 says:

            Donald somebody. Will have to research his last name.

          • HartRod says:

            Are you talking about Donald Blake? If so, I knew him quite well. He was a tough, SOB! LOL. He was the nicest guy in the world, until you made him mad. – Rob Hartley

          • SoonerOracle737 says:

            Yes! Donald Blake. He was a very nice person to me. He did some bouncer work at local pubs, so he had my back. – Eric Tauriainen.

          • HartRod says:

            He was a good dude. I haven’t seen him in a long time, not sure what he’s doing now. You might remember me, I’m Mike Walker’s cousin. His mom, Dixie, was my dad’s (Eddy Hartley) sister.

          • soonerinks says:

            My Dad and Uncle hauled pulp wood off the mountains in Eastern Oklahoma for many years. Neither were very big guys but you didn’t want to mess with either one.

    • DCinAZ says:

      With that backfield, it would be suicide for them not too. Our backfield HAS to be at the very top of the best backfields in the country with Perine and Mixon. And yes, I think Mixon is a “can’t miss” type of player in the mold of AD that will play from the start and dominate from the word go.

    • DCinAZ says:

      “You’ll see a bunch of two-tailbacks out there. You’ll see inside zones, outside zones. You’ll see some counters. You’ll see a little bit of everything.”

      LOVE to read this coming from the offensive staff. Long overdue…..

    • DCinAZ says:

      Meantime, if the Sooners really do run the ball next season, you might see true freshman Rodney Anderson join Samaje Perine, Alex Ross, Keith Ford and Joe Mixon in doing so.

      “He’s been a workhorse here, been very, very impressive,” Gundy told Lehman and Joseph. “I’ve had some older players come up to me and say, ‘Coach, I don’t know what Adrian Peterson was like as a true freshman, or DeMarco Murray, but this guy is a beast.’

      That’s some pretty high praise right there.

    • Sooner_Ace says:

      x1000

    • normanite says:

      Prediction: OU is going to have the best running back corps in college football in 2015.

  • EasTex says:

    I don’t know if it would be unprecedented for 3 DBs from the same high school going to the same university, but I have never heard of such.
    Getting some star players out of the Shreveport and Northern Louisiana would be awesome. There are some amazing athletes in that part of the country and most go to sec schools right now.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      I’ve never heard of that either but if we could land all three that could be the start of a very good pipeline.

    • Doobie74OU says:

      They should have a Whale of a team this year at Calvary Baptist Academy with that much D1 talent on defense and Shea Patterson playing QB there as well!

    • Bob Edwards says:

      I would think it would be pretty rare if ever. Having three D1 DBs on the same high school team that are also graduating in the same year is pretty rare. Then you would need a school that had a need for all three and thinks that all three fit their scheme. It could happen, but is pretty unlikely.

      • Brien Brown says:

        Look at my above comment Central East High in Fresno, CA did, though 2 where Seniors and 1 was a Junior, Hatari Byrd, L.J. Moore, and Micah Quick, all became Sooners, Moore no longer with the team but they all played DB for their H.S. team

    • RocketCitySooner says:

      Reminds me of when both defensive tackles and the nose guard for OU were all named Selmon.

    • Brent says:

      Is OU seriously competing against Lousiana-Lafayette for their junior day invitees to come?

      • Jordan Esco says:

        My guess is it’s not about “competing” with them so much as they gave their commitment (to attend) to another school/coaching staff and they value standing behind it.

      • EasTex says:

        Any kid that keeps his word is alright with me.

      • Bob Edwards says:

        Yeah, no one would ever expect a school nearby would notice them first and start recruiting them before the big boys do. Interestingly enough, only one has been offered by La-la. They all have offers from podunk little schools, like LSU, Mississippi State, Baylor, TAMU, Nebraska, etc.

        • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

          University of Louisiana-Lafayette (U of La-la) is pronounced “ooh la la”. 😉

      • Indy_sooner says:

        Yes

    • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

      Not only 3 DBs from the same high school, but also a high school that hasn’t produced top talent, I think, ever.

      Shreveport, West Monroe, Bastrop, and Alexandria would be good areas to be acquainted with. And John Curtis high school in New Orleans. Top players are not automatic locks to LSU from John Curtis.

    • Lane Gilstrap says:

      Is LSU offering all 3?

    • Brien Brown says:

      OU technically has done this before if my memory serves me correct. Byrd and Moore from the 2013 class and Quick from the 2014 class all played DB for their H.S. on the same team, now Quick was recruited as and athlete but, I do believe I read he played DB with Byrd and Moore in HS when he was a Junior and they where Seniors. Byrd is supposedly a big reason we landed Quick. So not unheard of just seems to fit into the term putting all your eggs in one basket. But, if the coaches see something we don’t I don’t care who we beat out for them, if they can play bring them on.

    • Hotrod33 says:

      I know we had 3 Selmon’s that were along the defensive line and were pretty darn good.

    • Stephen Dale says:

      EasTEx………………..several years ago, Florida signed eight ( 8) from LAKELAND HS In a single recruiting season…Miami has signed several from one of the Miami HSs in years past…3 from one school to a single college is not a record

      • akryan says:

        That must have been an insanely good high school football team.

        • Stephen Dale says:

          Lakeland FL was the HS Nat’l chanps that particular season. Of the 8, three became very productive for U of F, mixed results at best on the rest…..just thought it was interesting to invest so much of a recruiting class at one school…………

      • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

        @disqus_UrrKRweCfL:disqus mentioned three DBs from the same high school. Florida did not sign three DBs from Lakeland in 2007. They signed two. Moreover, it was seven players from Lakeland, not eight. Still a lot of talent from one school going to…the same school. Sorry to be nitpicky.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Back from a long trip to Mayberry, and glad to see all of the exciting stuff happening. Needless to say, it didn’t take long to find a comment that makes me glad certain site posters are not by immediate boss or the CEO of my company 🙂

  • Sooner 76 says:

    Nice write-up. If the Williams brothers go to La Lay on March 7, I would respect them for keeping their word. Get them here for the spring game instead.

    Also, Agim was very honest with his comments, which I like to see. Still time for OU to get back into his top group.

  • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

    Ok…so it’s beat up on @jordanesco:disqus day…sheesh.

  • Brien Brown says:

    I am pretty sure the Jenks Legion of Doom Defense had about 4-5 D-1 Starters in it’s starting lineup and probably had another 4-5 that where underclassman, I can not confirm or deny that but, I’d say it’s a good bet. So 3 team mates coming from the same DB rotation isn’t unlikely.

    • Jeremy Phillips says:

      Mahan, Wisne, Callens, Calmus, McCoy, Jones.. They were all in that era.. Some overlapped…

      • Brien Brown says:

        Did Mahan go to ND? There was another one or two that went to Nebraska also I believe and I am sure there was about a 4-6 year stretch that they had a lot of talented guys that played D1 that did overlapped or they where younger than some of the guys mentioned or older in some cases.

        • Jeremy Phillips says:

          Mahan, Jerry Wisne & Andy Wisne all went to ND.. Philip Dillard went to Nebraska, they also had a QB at Northwestern..

          • Brien Brown says:

            I’m talking about guys like, Presley, Josh Fidler, Brett Butler, Jason Lohr, Brad Hawkins, Curtis Brumble, Luke Turner, Todd Fidler, Jared Bowling, Bobby Klinck, Brandon Lohr, Garrett Mills, Jay Henry, Ben Bowling those guys where from like 95-01. Pretty sure Dillard was from around like 03-04.

          • Jeremy Phillips says:

            I’m positive the Wisne’s were 95-01, i think Mahan was in that zone too.. Don’t think Presley played anywhere. The Lohr’s may have gone to Nebraska, i can’t remember..

          • Brien Brown says:

            I’m sure Jason Lohr had to of he was a stud. Mills played for TU and was is probably the greatest TE to play for TU, and may have been the best college TE in the state of Oklahoma during his career, yes including the guys that played at OU and OSU during that time,

    • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

      I’m seeing some of the bigger schools represented in the top Okie players lists. Are there any small-town, rural kids we should know? You know, the Loftons and Ronnells of the state.

      That question is for anyone. Not just Brien.

      • Brien Brown says:

        Like I said I am really on the Mason Fine kid from Locust Grove and their RB, think they are a 3A school maybe a 4A but both look super good too me may not be getting the looks they should especially Fine. There is a kid a LB from Oologah that’s pretty much a stud also. Adair has a few kids that are going be Juniors I believe that will be worth watching next year and when they are Seniors, another thing is they are like a 2A school or 3A school think one of their names is Bradbury really a good athlete.

  • Jeremy Phillips says:

    Tough news for OU baseball losing the leadoff hitter for nearly the whole regular season…
    @DMcComasOB: Some tough injury news for #OU baseball: #Sooners announce junior OF Alex Wise is out 6-8 weeks after a HBP resulted in broken left hand.

  • Jeff says:

    Hello

    • Sooner Ray says:

      Read that earlier today, it is a good article.

    • EasTex says:

      Thanks for posting the link.
      From Hal’s lips to God’s ears, is my wish.

    • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

      Geezus, “architected?” Perhaps use a different word than “architected.” Such an awkward word.

    • akryan says:

      Nice to hear that all it requires is a good QB and smart center, even if the center is undersized. If we do have one thing, then it’s a smart, undersized center. Now about that QB…

  • Steve Cooke says:

    Great article on freshman womens basketball player Gabbi Ortiz. http://soonersports.com/fls/31000/microsites/15wbb_ortiz/longform.html

  • Mark slavin says:

    Shane buechele committed to Texas.

  • J.r. Kamm says:

    Rumor is Shane Buechelle (sp) committed to Texas. Sorry if already posted.

  • Doobie74OU says:

    I have seen a couple mentions in the comments about the article in the Tulsa World about Hal Mumme and the Air Raid defense. I noticed that he was coaching at a NAIA school and it got me wondering. How come Hal Mumme one of the architects of the Air Raid offense hasn’t had more sucess or oppertunities as a Head Coach? By far his best oppertunity was at Kentucky but mostly much smaller schools. Overall record 137-127-1. I am not ripping on the guy or saying it as a negative. Maybe he just enjoys coaching at the smaller places, maybe teaching is more the aspect of coaching he is into or something. Just wondering thought I would ask and see if anybody had any insight!

    • EasTex says:

      It could be almost anything.
      Coach John Jenkins formerly of UH was another offensive genius/mad scientist back in the early 90’s. He wasn’t really a people-person and when other coaches came to him wanting to know how to run the bubble screen, he told them to figure it out themselves that he didn’t spend all his time and energy creating successful offensive schemes to give them to other schools. Paterno and his coaches were quite upset with this lack of cooperation and were vocal about it to other coaches.
      Some have speculated that is why he never got another D1 coaching job after UH, that he was “blacklisted” by “respected” coaches.
      He is now the HC for a traveling team in the Fall Experimental Football League.