Josh Wariboko: We had a chance to catch up with Josh Wariboko this past weekend. The more we speak to him, and those folks around him, it seems like this one really is a bit of a three way tie at this point and where he ends up is anyone’s guess.
By now everyone knows Wariboko is a big fan of the Cali life. He’s visited UCLA a couple times, including a brief unofficial in the summer and an official visit this past season. In our estimation, UCLA remains a strong contender. But in truth, UCLA isn’t USC. If Wariboko had a standing USC offer, they’d be hard to beat. Wariboko has friends at USC and it’s our understanding that he’s long had strong interest in the Trojans. So while UCLA gives him a chance to be in California, we are told it doesn’t have quite the same draw that USC would.
Wariboko spoke highly of Ohio State recently and, specifically, talked about how much he likes coach Urban Meyer. While we may have once thought Ohio State was just a placeholder, it’s clear that isn’t the case. At one point Wariboko said, “what is there to not like about Ohio State?”
Josh also talked about his overall comfort with Oklahoma after having spent so much time in Norman during his recruitment. In fact, he was at the Bedlam basketball this past weekend. He said he’s got an incredibly close relationship with Bill Bedenbaugh and Jerry Montgomery. He knows the players, the coaches, and his own family lives nearby. Oklahoma continues to remain an attractive option for Josh.
So, like we said, all three schools appear to be pretty even at the moment.
Du’Vonta Lampkin: A few weeks back we told you, “OU still has a shot at flipping Texas DL commit and former OU commit, Du’Vonta Lampkin (HERE and HERE).” We were expecting this to be a bit of a surprise flip on NSD but in talking to some folks close to the situation, we are told that an actual decommitment could come soon. At which point Lampkin would likey wait until Feb 4th to announce an official decision.
Texas Recruiting: Related to the note above, it’s interesting to note that Texas is really struggling right now with recruiting on the defensive side of the ball. If they do lose Lampkin to the Sooners, they’d be left with zero defensive tackles in this 2015 class.
Additionally, they lost Tim Irvin, their star Florida DB, to Auburn and we’ve been told that Da’Vante Davis may be wavering as well. We’ve also recently heard that Cameron Townsend may be re-thinking things.
In talking to some high schools coaches and trainers in Texas, there seems to be some very unhappy folks about how Charlie Strong has gone about recruiting…not reaching out to some of “the fellas”…passing up kids in Texas to recruit Florida…etc. Justified or not, that sentiment definitely exists. In fact, we talked to one coach who said, “now would be the right time for OU to really reassert themselves in Texas.”
– UPDATE (12:24 pm): New Sooners OC & RBs coach using this sweet ride to check in with 2015 JUCO WR Dominique Reed.
Back in the Ville with @LincolnRiley. About to roll in the Chevy. #wegettinitdone pic.twitter.com/Z70WjQotsH
— Cale Gundy (@calegundy) January 20, 2015
– UPDATE (1:42 pm): 2015 WR, OU target and recent visitor, Van Jefferson tells TFB that he has decommitted from Georgia. Sooners continue to pursue as we head down the home stretch to National Signing Day.
– UPDATE (2:56 pm): I (K) have had a chance to chat a bit with OU WR target, Van Jefferson and at this point it seems pretty clear that OU is the leader. He did not say whether another visit will happen, but it almost feels like more of a “when” not “if” right now. It seems now is making sure the whole family is on board. We’ll keep you updated.
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Can never have enough OL and DL, take em all Coach B and Coach M
Barton Scott seem to think Van Jefferson will switch from Georgia to OU.
That’d be great. Especially with no WR coach in place
Saw that too. Would be awesome to have him. Fantastic route runner with great hands.
Who is Barton Scott?
Barton Simmons from 247
Thanks, couldn’t find OP’s info. I’d feel better if it came from Demetric Warren
me too but his correct % is 73.62. So he’s pretty solid
http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/ExpertRankings
Simmons has a nice % but warren does twice as many predictions. Warren and Schubert are the ones to follow imo.
no doubt, Warren is the go to for me too. but when someone doesnt predict as much it means to me they only pick the ones they are pretty sure about
Yeah that’s true. I like warren a lot though
Ha, waaaaay too much time on our hands. Glad I have company 😉
Demetric Warren has now switched his prediction to OU as well 🙂
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Warren is my go to also. Solid follow on twitter as well for those that hop on the tweeter.
Barton Simmons – National 24/7 reporter
Does that mean Shawn Jefferson will be OU’s new WR coach?
I’ve been for this one and continue to be.
So would we be in on Townsend or no?
I hope we could end up with townsend
Maybe OU can get Wheeler to flip!
I would be curious to know how involved OU is with Wheeler at this point.
Have you heard on when the new coaches will be hired? I know they are trying to keep quiet, but something has to have been leaked
TFB has said a couple times on here that Stoops is trying to wait until After NSD to do any more coaching changes.
Sorry I am not on here much at the moment (school and work). Must have missed it
Does this make anyone else nervous? E.g. that it seems to be known to everyone (especially the recruits) that OU is going to ax some defensive coach after NSD. Would this not make you nervous if you were a recruit and knew that it was a possibility that OU might fire your position coach and/or recruiter?
not necissarily.
if the coaches are being honest, which they are, they would be clear with the recruit, letting them know that their position coach is going to be replaced, but it will e best for the team and program. TFB has also said that Stoops is making sure recruits would stay if he did do this
Texas is ripe for the plucking in recruiting. One of the reasons I liked the Lincoln Riley hire was because of his Texas connections. My understanding is that Cumbie has very good Texas high school connections and is very good at networking in Texas. He would be a great hire as WR coach if we could convince him that OU is the best place for him. I would like either the WR or DB coach to have strong Texas high school ties.
Cumbie has said if he can’t call the offense he isn’t interested. Riley will call the offense, so …
Agree, that ship has probably sailed. We do need another good coach with strong ties to TX high school coaches as that has really hurt us in the last 5-6 years in pulling the elite Texas athletes (Cale has done good though).
Yeah, I’m not sure why it’s taking so long on the WR and DB (assuming Viney isn’t elevated) hires. Texas is getting harder with a&m and TCU having recent success. But texas has historically had their way with the top kids, with the exception of a steal here and there. The thing about Texas is that there is so much talent that there should be plenty for everyone; just got to evaluate who you getting properly.
Blatant homerism warning:
what you are about to read may not be suitable for whiny fair weather fans and is based solely on rabid, crimson-colored glasses, foaming-at-mouth, veins bulging from the neck and forehead, blatant homerism.
Saturday, September 17, 2016, on Owen Field:
OU – W
tOSU – L
That was a very anticlimactic post.
It’ll improve. Just the first version. Long range forecasting is vague, generalized. I’ll get more specific with smack talk and score prediction as it approaches. Oh, and mocking the ESPN talking heads will be great fun after we win. For a long time.
Let’s call it 42-17 O.U, as our offense stamps “DONE” all over their little buckeye helmets and our defense doesn’t fall for cute little Urban Meyer trick plays from their offense, nor allow them to run at all.
Any updates on Darreyl Patterson?
Safety Demarko Doodles from Douglass OK has a TCU offer. Is OU not looking at him?
TCU always evaluates DB’s very well, its no small thing to have a TCU offer.
Usually TCU will recruit good athletes, no doubt, but they have known character issues sometimes that OU/UT knows about. That’s how TCU has to do to compete with UT and OU. OU and UT can be more picky when looking at athletes. I know several personal examples where this is true, OU showed zero interest in a great, great athlete for very good reasons, and TCU signed the athlete.
BTW, in one instance, where OU showed zero interest and TCU signed the tremendous athlete, the athlete started as a true FR on D at TCU on a then top 5 ranked TCU. Was kicked off the team, is now in prison for a long, long time.
After apparently losing out on Nate Dalton and having two really solid safeties committed, I suspect that OU is all in on Justin Reid. I would also be curious to know if the TCU is still (was ever) legitimate.
Another guy Riley Daniel from Ringling OK has a bunch of nice Big 12 offers. If OU misses on Wariboko, I hope they give him a look.
Jason, I do not think OU needs to collect bodies at this point. OU is probably at the “all or nothing” stage with just two elite guys (Wariboko and Teuhema) and not even thinking about anyone else.
I know they are at least familiar with him. I was at a scrimmage back in the spring the week before the spring game, and he was in attendance talking with Bedenbaugh. He looked like a big ole country boy.
Would love to see a post predicting how we close out the class – 6-7 spots left, right?
If OU gets Jefferson, Lampkin, Townsend, and Wariboko OU would then have the #8 class(247 class calculator) if all things stayed the same for others(they wont)
I’m not overconcerned with recruiting rankings, but when I do look at them, I’m more concerned with average. Do you have any idea where we’d be when you look at the average player recruited?
89.06 is in the top 15, but i didnt see exactly where probably 13ish
I do the same. Before the Overton problem OU had the 8th highest per star average according to Rivals. It’s at 3.53 now with the exclusion of Overton. Top ten class so far according to average. Significant increase from the last two years: 3.2/3.1
Side note, people have been railing on competition for talent in Tx from UT, Baylors and TCUs. Seems like we’ve done just fine, even plucking players from their backyard. Not bad especially for a down year.
Any chance Malik Jefferson “may be re-thinking things”?
Haha doubt that
I think he is enrolled already
Bummer. Texas still sucks though!
Yes and yes
Wariboko talking about how much he likes Urban Meyer makes me want to throw up.
Young men haven’t developed the ability to evaluate an adult. Meyer acts like a kid most of the time, even fist pumping on tOSU’s last meaningless TD. Meyer is a good coach, but I doubt many other coaches like him.
He’s a flesh golem/sociopath who has no idea what it feels like to be a human being, so he tries to fake it. Watch him on the sidelines. He watches others to see what the proper response to a stimulus is; then he does it, too. It’s both fascinating and sickening at once.
In primitive times he would have been burned at the stake.
So..that’s a no for him, Jed? Heh heh
He makes my flesh crawl. Not a fan.
Because he’s a flesh Golem! I like that!
Like him or not. He’s one hell of a coach. It seems like his players would run through walls for him. So he must be doing something right. On top of that 3 natty’s at two schools. I think we loathe who’s taking what’s rightfully OUr’s.
That’s what I said…..something about him just spells CREEP.
Not a fan….
OU has plenty of competition to fill the “vacuum” left by Texas. TAMU, Baylor, other SEC schools, TCU, etc.
I’m optimistic in our chances with Monty, Coach B, and Gundy
I hope that the new coaches take a page out of Monty, B’s and Gundy’s playbook to recruit 8 days a week.
I think it’s hard to scheme well against teams and recruit well. It takes hours and hours and hours to scheme well against teams. You can’t be side-tracked constantly by calls, IMO. It takes a tremendous amount of time to build relationships with literally hundreds of athletes and their parents. I’m not sure anyone can do both equally well.
While I understand your opinion, I disagree. IMO, that’s why these guys get paid hundreds of thousands a year; to work their asses off. It’s also why these guys have assistants; to help with the calls/text/tweets/etc. If they establish efficient ways to delegate duties, it shouldn’t be too difficult. Very time consuming, sure, but not overwhelming.
I get your point thunder, but I also disagree. While it probably did take Josh H. years to put together a hodgepodge plan each week, a basic Air Raid offense is normally installed in 3 days. Repetition for the rest of the time. Of course, each week will bring a few tweaks.
But, no coach should be hired that can’t recruit. I mean, it’s just part of what they do. JMO
This. OU has every reason to be a recruiting super power every year.
Very well on our way there, IMHO…
You add a young energetic guy with possibly a NFL background to coach the DB’s and another to coach WR this staff WILL BE A RECRUITING SUPER POWER AGAIN! Already on our way!
Except for subpar talent in its own backyard (and some of that talent wants to get out of Oklahoma). I can’t fault a kid for going to UCLA over OU, especially if you grew up in OKC. LA is awesome, and Westwood is even better than LA! But OU should be a little better than where they are now.
Everybody’s different, I guess. I wouldn’t live in LA if you paid me.
I live in LA, a native. You have to worry about getting shot, the girls are not the type you take home to mama, and people will lie to your face. Other than that, I can see why a recruit from a smaller town would like to come out here.
Yeeeeyep. Got many relatives in the LA area. USED to go visit them. But I hate it out there so much, haven’t been in about 10 years now. It’s worse than ridiculous, it’s S T U P I D ! But that’s me. And an 18 year old kid see movies, pro’s, and all the hype about how great it is, and they think they wanna go there. And some folks do go and actually like that craziness. But, I still say, recruit the area kids that have worshiped OU from the womb, and you’ll get guys that will fight their butts off to win at all costs and you’ll have less grade problems, attitudes, and kids transferring cause they can’t handle NOT being the stud on campus like they were in high school.
True. Next year ESPN is going to build up USC and clearly it is surprising that they don’t compete every year seeing that they have a clear recruiting advantage over most other schools. But OU will rise back up next year. 11-1…hopefully 12-0 like 99.’
Coach Switzer said something to the effect of as the head coach at USC you pass more D1 recruits on your drive to work than is in the entire state of OK.
That’s right. I remember the King had great respect for USC. I hate them. But he beat them as OC 33-20, tied as HC 7-7, and lost 28-24, and 12-0. 1-2-1. We won’t talk about the game that never was under Stoops.
The LA area has 3 times the population of the State of Oklahoma. Hundreds of D1 prospects, enough to support the entire PAC 12.
I’ve lived in the LA area 37 years, lived in Westwood when I went to UCLA for my MBA. It’s pretty nice. Those badmouthing the choice of UCLA or USC are being foolish, just like Californians who think there’s nothing good about Oklahoma.
The advantages LA had 40 years ago have declined. Major corporations left LA in the 90’s as the State’s business climate worsened. Opportunities for great careers were plentiful in the 80’s, not so much now.
A decent government policy could re-ignite the engine of growth, but not likely for another decade or more. Sad because there is no place like SoCal.
Unfortunately area kids that worshipped OU from the womb will not provide an adequate number of top talent kids to compete for the CFP’s on an annual basis and that is what OU fans expect.
and the threat of earthquakes…….
didn’t OKC just have an earthquake? and everyone here in LA will gladly take an earthquake over a tornado.
My sister in law moved to CA for school. She hated it so much but got a good education. She moved back home the day she graduated and hasn’t been back in 10 years or so.
I’ve been for both business and pleasure and hated it every time
Their influence to all our coaches recruiting strats should be applauded. Proud of the efforts of those coaches.
Scoop predicted OU to land Smith, Patterson, Wariboko, Daniels, Neal, & McGinnis. FWIW
Add Jefferson to that list and call it a day!
I’d be a happy camper with that
They also predicted dalton fwiw
Well they would have been right if OU hadn’t turned Dalton down…
Sorry I haven’t seen where he tried to commit. It would appear we either backed off because of Reid or he wants to play corner and we want him at safety.
Backed off/turned down/no spot – All the same thing…The kid was OU’s to lose…
Well sometimes these kids need to commit on the spot if OU is where they want to go. Look at dalton wood. I understand the recruiting process for these kids is exciting. But if the school you want to play for offers I don’t understand waiting.
The antithesis of Dalton Wood (one offer from dream school…commits almost immediately) is Jalin Barnett. Barnett overplayed his hand in the recruiting process, did not progress as a football player and ultimately ended up at a school that was not where he wanted to go (not even in his top 2).
Yeah that’s why I take these things with a grain of salt when reading them. 247sports has OU pretty low with a few of those recruits that Scoop thinks OU will get.
Sorry…I’m not sure I ever saw Scoop making a prediction regarding Dalton to OU. Not that it matters…all these boards/sites can’t be 100%
Would be an awesome close – throw in Lampkin and Jefferson. (:
Absolutely it would!!
Has anybody worked the numbers recently? Sitting on 20 commits. Thought is there will be at least a couple of transfers. Could take 26 or 27?
I believe 28 is the max number. Normal 2015 scholarships was 19, but we had 3 early enrollees that can be used against last year’s numbers and 6 combined transfers/dismissals/NFL declarations. I could be wrong on how the early enrollees are allotted though.
The one area that just get’s me is linebackers. We hear news from DB’s, OL, DL’s and pretty much every area other than linebackers. We have an amazing recruit in Deberry, but then silence and not even a faint whisper just silence. The thing that get’s me is you know BS is aware, you see an effort across the board but this one vital part of the defense is being swept under the rug. Maybe I am just looking into things to much.
I feel the same way. All we get is crickets. Need at least one more in this class. The only thing it can be is that like QB, they think they have enough LB’s on the roster. The alternative is no one else wants to come here and that is unacceptable.
No reason to go chasing “backups” at this point. I don’t know the count, but they went after several LB’s that they liked. Most thought/think OU lead for at least 2-3 of them. Losing Wheeler hurt. But had we ended up with say, DeBerry/Wheeler/Daniels, or McGinnis in place of one, something like that, it won’t look so bad.
I still think Kish is gone, and they want to let the new coach next year chase some more highly ranked kids, not have his numbers limited b/c we went after a couple of mediocre prospects late. We should be fine at LB next year. It’s going forward where our numbers will be an issue.
Finally….a source of reason!! Great post, TU.
DeBerry, Smith and McGinnis would be a very solid LB haul. With the latter two still being possibilities, you may get your wish!
How about Deberry, Smith, Louis Brown
Word on the street is the Louis Brown is going to Oklahoma State
I’d like to see them look more in-state for LB. We have talent in-state this year and next. Plus I think that while we are looking out of state we’re missing some good players at home that are picking TU and OSU. Not saying they’re ALL good, just saying we need to look inwardly a little more. More kids we get from this region the harder they’ll play for pride. Less quite which we’ve slowly been seeing more of in the last few years.
Darreyl Patterson @OnLyHuMaN143 11m11 minutes ago
I’ve decided to Commit to the University of ______! Can’t wait
cute huh
Kids are stupid.
Sounds like OU will let Patterson commit now that Orr and OU have gone separate ways. I hope Patterson works out.
Hope yOU are correct. Also hope Overton gets it worked out and keeps his offer.
Wouldn’t that rule out Kansas State? Because they’re “Kansas State University”, not “University of Kansas State.”
Right guys…?
University of Kansas State University fits.
I realize these are kids but they sure do love there 15 minutes of fame that recruiting provides. Wariboko takes the cake, commits to us a year ago, de commits, really wants to play with his brother but isnt sure, falls in love with California and on and on
Sooner Gridiron @soonergridiron 22s23 seconds ago
One national recruiting expert projecting four-star Tennessee WR Van Jefferson to flip from Georgia to OU || http://oklahoma.247sports.com/Bolt/Van-Jefferson-Crystal-Ball-34897007 … #Sooners
Wow. From yesterdays’ open post it sounded like the visit was ‘ok’. That would be a fantastic flip.
Yeeeep
Can’t be true. Kish was in a picture with Van.
I still haven’t got over Jordan crushing my soul the other day when I asked about Jefferson.
That would be one of the biggest coups of the recruiting season.
No doubt Lincoln Riley’s offense is going to entice a number of offensive recruits to give OU a second glance.
It’s just refreshing to see all the positive vibes coming out in spite of the terrible end to the season. This is exactly why I try to never get too high or low, which is Extremely difficult sometimes. Excited and optimistic about OC hire and recruiting. Boomer!
Yeah. A couple of complete gut punches to end the season but recruiting is still good. With hungry young coaches coming in and some good football players to work with, optimistic about the next few years. SOONER!!!
Question? Could Shawn Jefferson have an impact on Murray? How does aTm wr class look or who is thier Co and qb coach? b/c we are still in waiting on our qb coach.
Riley is our qb coach
Question? Wasn’t thier a tweet about Demarkus Lodge following Riley? Lodge does’nt like a hard commit. Just asking
I’m still holding out hope we can land both Murray and Lodge. Maybe the chances are slim, but I think we do have a shot.
Yep we definitely are the bait for star attention whether you want it or not.
Lodge is not currently committed to any school. Decommitted from A&M. I see Murray and Lodge being a package deal. With Murray set on A&M, Lodge does not seem possible. Also, the lack of visits by our coaching staff to see Lodge and our pressing the Newsome issue makes the Lodge possibility even less.
Thanks Jwig
Can we make a trade with tu? Some of our DL for some of there LBs?
Thank’s guy’s, I am the same warren. My first year with the BRAINIACS was last winter I thought I was going to lose my mind. That’s when I discovered I am bipolar:-) you talk about emotional swing’s. Yea I calm that right down and now laugh at other’s. LoL :{)
I still like Cabin
I can’t see that happening although I wanted us to go after him for awhile. Then we offered and seemed like we didn’t pursue enough. I think he wanted to visit during the Tennessee game and we said wait.
Agreed
What are we hearing about LB Josh Smith?
OU coaches visited him yesterday I believe. Expected to be in Norman this wknd if memory serves. Sooners pushing hard as he’s definitely the No. 1 LB on their board, IMO.
super…thx!
Would love to get him… 6’4 225 and was impressive at the All Star Game….
He’s an absolute must get, IMO
Demetric Warren has him to OU right now
http://247sports.com/User/Demetric%20Warren/Predictions?PlayerInstitution.PrimaryPlayerSport.Recruitment.Year=2015&PlayerInstitution.PrimaryPlayerSport.Sport=Football
Book it
Unfortunately he also has KM to OU. Let’s hope he’s right all around!
Except on Justin Reid. He has him, as most others do, to Stanford.
update added
Too much swag.
Has there been any updates on the DB and WR coach search?
LOL @ the old chevy impala.
I’ve seen some crystal balls switch Jefferson to OU
NM
No Cali tri’o this year? WoW
If Mixon wouldve stayed out of trouble and had a big year, probably wouldve happened. The “cool” factor is also back at USC and Mora is killing it at UCLA.
Too much talent in that state for just two schools…
agreed, but the ones OU is after are going to those schools
Well, there’s Cal, Stanford, and SDSU, too…
Oregon as well
Just based that on the above comment
You say that but USC took 3 or 4 of the top DB’s in the state.
You had me going there for a moment with the New OC & RBs coach; thought Cale had gotten a promotion.
Do we have any chance with Justin Reid? Or has that ship sailed?
Still a chance, I think it’s between Stanford and OU with LSU lurking.
Visiting ND this weekend
That Impala fits right in the dirty south of KS. Coffeyville!
Hope they don’t get accustomed to that kind of luxury.
That’s top notch for that dump hole of a town. South Coffeyville, OK may even be worse. LOL
I’ve got a neighbor here in Bartlesville who moved from there. He claims the best thing going for Coffeyville is the number of abandoned women resident in the place.
On the one hand, you have to look at him and say to yourself, “Really?” But then you go there and drive around and it comes crashing in that he’s probably not saying more than the truth.
Ha I could definitely see that but not sure from the couple of times I’ve stopped there to gas up heading to the lake that I’ve seen anything to make me want to spend any extra time there.
I gave away a few of those in my day. They were always a hit on showcase showdown. I get nostalgic when I hear anyone say “A NEW CAR!!!!!!!”. I miss Rod.
Yeah, I heard your “new” cars weren’t really all that new Bob!
As I’ve been known to say, don’t hate the playa, hate the game.
I’ll take one only if you are going to throw Dian Parkinson in the passenger seat Bob.
I got some Kin’ just east from Coffeyville, in Chetopa.
Done a little fishin down in Chetopa. Big cats and spoonbills down there.
Reading through Rivals on the final Rivals 250 just makes me sick. Big 12 is just getting ripped by people.
These idiots read too many articles by ESPN. Why are they ripping the Big 12? The no defense argument doesn’t fly since Bama has given up 44, 42, 42, 42 in their last four important games.
Referring to the 76 SEC commits in the Rivals250 vs. the 19 in the Big 12.
Better bagmen in the SEC 😉
Interesting snapchat from a recruit that recently flipped to Auburn.
Yeah I heard that, not seen it though
I don’t have the picture but it was him holding a large stack of $20 bills.
Sweet. If we’ve learned anything from JFF, deny it and the NCAA can’t prove it
Haha you’re sadly right.
http://www.nola.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2015/01/auburn_commitment_tim_irvin_fl.html
Good find. I would hope the NCAA would at least peek at this. Graduation gifts this esrly?
Supposedly he was an early grad, but I call BS on that. He just happens to flash this cash right after he decommitted from Texas and committed to Auburn, a school that’s been in the “bagmen” conversation more than any other SEC school?
All the warning signs are there, doubt it gets the major attention from the NCAA, $EC or ESPN. They have to protect their product.
I doubt it does either. I still remember the Yahoo story a year or two ago where they had receipts, text messages, signed docs, and a video of Alabama players getting money (via Western Union) from agents while they were winning NC’s and no investigation came from it.
I count at least 25 bills, if they’re all $20s, that’s $500
I’m waiting for the kid dumb enough to pose for a picture with a hooker and lines chopped out on the mirror.
Good God what numbskullery!
Say what?
See the below.
Even though it’s not consolation but they do have 4 more teams. Yet their average is 5.4 per team where we are at 2.
True. It would be nice if ESPN would stop recruiting for every SEC team.
Alabama, A&M, and Auburn add up to what the B12 has combined
And A and M sucks despite its great fan base and big budget. I’m just not believing that they will be back into competing with the elite teams in the country. Johnny football was a once in a generation find, and they haven’t been good since the day he left.
It also helps since Rivals is sucked into the south. They don’t do a good job with Cali kids, and it appears they’re starting to fall a bit with Texas kids as well.
I agree. When ESPN had will Johnson ranked and rivals had never heard of them, I started to wonder if ESPN may be better in covering recruiting or if it’s primarily regional. I like 247 with the composite.
Interesting. The media has fueled the hype about SEC football and it has hurt recruiting in the other conferences. But OU is rising in the rankings, don’t care about the rest of the Big 12.
247’s Demetric Warren just gave a crystal ball for current UNC commit CB/ATH Mike Hughes. Don’t see he has an OU offer yet. Anyone know anything about that?
Highlights:
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3278122/highlights/177866377
I wonder if this is a offensive offer
Dang. One word from those highlights that I have to break into two: ATH. LETE.
Says he was supposed to enroll early at UNC – guess that didn’t happen.
Tip from Lincoln?
It says Riley recruited him while at ECU
Nice find. 4.35-4.45 depending upon who you believe. Nice offer list. At 5’10 would think receiver. OU appears to be moving away from smaller CBs with several waiting on the roster already.
has to been as wr
Just get him here then put him in the best pos to help the team win. the kid is a Baller!!!!!!!!!
more like Riley wants him in his offensive plans and couldn’t get him at EC but we aren’t EC
I expect that to happen quite a bit.
Lincoln Riley has access to players he never had a shot with at ECU. Might as well go after some of them, even if they are committed.
I’d take this guy over Kyler Murray
Good Lord!
This young man is sensational, and I only watched the first third of the video.
I haven’t seen anyone outrun pursuit angles like that since Marshal Faulk.
You are 100% on this one. Those angles were nice! this dude is fast!
Cant they at least put some crimson stripes on that impala?
Flames
UCLA isn’t USC. You got that right — and thank God for that.
Barton Simmons from 247 is reporting Van Jefferson has decommitted from Georgia..
@Mansell247: Per @bartonsimmons Van Jefferson is no longer committed to UGA…
TFB broke that news, updated added above.
Nicely done TFB.
thank Alex & K, great job by them
No offense intended, i saw Barton’s tweet first.. How long till his dad is named our WR coach?
I’m not sure how I feel about this. If the guy wouldn’t be on our radar as WR coach without his son, I’d rather not hire him just to get his son. JMO.
He coaches WR in the NFL.. I’d take his son to get him.. Would help in recruiting..
Exactly…just look at how well his son runs routes
I noticed that. Not a surprise with a pro/pro-coach dad, but still nice to see.
FWIW 247 gives him a ’10’ in route running. Agree. nfl WR Shawn Jefferson as OUr WR coach. I’m IN!!
So you’d take any and every WR coach in the NFL?
Yes. The league is about big dollars. They can’t afford to carry a coach that is not up to the task.
That is crazy talk. Bad/average coaches get recycled in the NFL all the time.
I have nothing against this guy. And if Bob wants him, fine. I just get the feeling it’s not going to play out like that. Time will tell however.
I get your reservations. But what’s a bad coach? Just because a WR coach gets recycled does not mean he is not a good coach. There are other issues involved. NFL coaches have learned at the highest level.
No, but I’ve read up in his background.. Played for like 12 years & has coached for about 10.. Still fairly young.. From Florida.. I think he meets a lot of check marks..
Over who though? I would say yes because it helps in recruiting. Jay norvell has made a living off saying “yeah I coached Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison”
Kid is the #13 WR in the country and an Army All american, I would take him period, lol.
That being said, his dad has done 2 stints in the NFL as a WR coach, not bad at all for a hire
why? Have you seen him coach?
No worries whatsoever, I was just clarifying 🙂
Jordan so I take it he reached out to you guys before he sent the tweet? If so you gotta like OUr chances right.
Have to think they’re pretty good right now, yes.
A Chevy? Shouldn’t they be driving a (puts sunglasses on) Lincoln? YEEEAAAHHH
I like it!
Son, you know you’re gonna drive me to drinkin’ if you don’t stop drivin’ that hot rod Lincoln. VvvvroooOUOUOUoooooommmmm
Someone was asking the other day about nicknames for OUr offense…..This gave me the idea of ” Hot Rod Lincoln – O”
I still like the Land Run. Lol. Gotta think of something for the Air Raid though…hmm…The Scorched Earth Land Run!
Little lengthy but I like it. INE, a nickname for Riley, “Hot Rod”.
Boy if that Jefferson decommit means hes gonna flip to OU that gives us an even better shot at Josh Smith
Great job TFB!!
Just when you think it’s going to be a quiet news day…
You think since Van’s dad is a coach and understands the game that CBS let them know who our next WR coach is and that changed things for Van? ( One can only hope)
That’s very likely. The prospect of putting up huge numbers with the air raid couldn’t hurt
And the fact that Riley coached Crabtree helps I would think, as well as coaching the current NCAA rec record holder
Sounds like he is a players coach… http://espn.go.com/blog/tennessee-titans/post/_/id/8092/shawn-jefferson-pads-up-gets-hit
Texas’ head coaching position has always been a glad-hand position — that is why Mack was so successful.
Charlie Strong is not a bad coach. He might even be a good coach. Texas just doesn’t seem like the right place for him. He is not the politician/salesman that a school like Texas covets. We all like to think that maybe things need to change — that said, in many ways the glad-handing is just how college football functions. I don’t believe that ever will change.
Head coaches have to schmooze. That is a part of the job, anywhere, any time (and more so at a university with football tradition). You have to schmooze with the university brass. You have to schmooze with donors and regents. You have to establish relationships with coaches within the state. You have to sell, sell, sell — yourself, your team and your university, on all levels.
Bless the guy, he just seems to lack in some good old fashioned charisma. That and he doesn’t appear at all suited to the culture of Texas.
In short, his ego isn’t big enough for that state.
My Div 3 coach had a good take on this. He was arguably good enough that he could have moved ‘up’. But he didn’t want to. As he put it, if he kept the program reasonably free of scandal and within budget, then he got a full professor’s pay, he got to live in a beautiful little college town with all the benefits of access to a campus and he got to coach, which he loved doing, all without an ounce of B.S.
He was a pretty squared away guy for an old school Pollack.
I think there is some wishful thinking there. Part of the problem is some texas highschool coaches. Charlie not goin to pally up to people who don’t think much of him, neither would I. Saban had to deal with idiots at Bama who had “settled in” into a way of doing buisness there. It took over a year but he righted the ship once he found him a QB. Then he decided to continue hitting Louisiana and other states. Bama H.S. coaches were not happy but Saban is an Alpha male and U are going to deal with him his way. He wins BiG, Guys like that you allow some leeway, would have been different if he were not winning titles. Strong will be fine as long as he fines him a steady QB…He is not a texan so he is not going to do it their way but he has to start winning big! Or he will be held accountable!
He WILL be held accountable, yes. There is no maybe about it, he’ll have to win and soon.
The situations with Nick Saban and Charlie Strong are not all that similar, however. For one, Nick could get away with trying an “Alpha male” mentality — because he had already won a national championship in the SEC before ever taking the reins at Bama. Also, in just his second year, he raided the national recruiting scene, mercilessly. They had the #1 recruiting class of ’08, which included the guy almost everyone in the Sooner fanbase coveted: Julio Jones.
Following Nick Saban’s first year, they had a Top 10 recruiting class.
If you want to portray a big dog persona, you have to bring in big dog results. That’s just how it’s done.
So far, Charlie Strong hasn’t brought in the results to back up any measure of bravado — on the field, or in the recruiting game. This could change, of course. Nothing is set in stone. Right now, he’s not there — and I’m skeptical that he will get there anytime soon.
The culture clashes between Strong and Texas are highly visible, and only big time results will change anything.
Van Jefferson decommiting so soon after visiting OU seems promising!
Coach Warren VPreps @DemetricDWarren 9m9 minutes ago
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https://twitter.com/LincolnRiley/status/557630772203769857
nice interior …crimson and cream
Love to be a fly on the wall, I mean fuzzy dice…
I would have spit up coffee if they had some fuzzy dice
And a Mack Brown bobble head on top of the dashboard.
The Gundy mobile!
That headliner could tell a story or two
lol @ the selfie
Gundy looks happy….and THAT makes me happy. (he wouldn’t be smiling if he thought the ship was about to go over the ‘Beyond Here There Be Monsters’ line).
I have to ask this. What is wrong with Gundy’s hair?
that’s Cale, not Mike.
I’m aware of that but his hair ain’t ever looked right.
just having fun….
Good god, now that’s rollin’
seriously coach Linc looks like he has some Jesse Pinkman in him…
http://media.twirlit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/aaron-paul-science.gif
I’m telling fatty boy Lincoln doesn’t have his seat belt on.
Is there a boom coming soon? Good job breaking the story.
https://twitter.com/OU_CoachGundy/status/557634553234612224
Hatchback definitely.
The last few years of the GM full sized station wagon.
Wish they still made them.
My 95 had the detuned Corvette LT1 V8. Sucker would run like a scalded dog.
I had two of those, a 93 and a 95.
Loved them both, but had a soft spot for the 93, it had the Police package…HD cooling for the engine, tranny and oil, with silicone hoses. Sold it with 99,000 miles on it and it never needed a front end alignment.
Hah! Amazingly comfortable ride and all the room in the world inside with big old school bench seats. Land yachts. Maybe they stash them all over the country and then fly their G4 or Citation in to the little airports and drive to folk’s houses!
Drove like a luxury car and would haul the house.
On long trips I would fold down all the rear seats and create a concert hall for the custom sound system.
Made me comfortable and happy.
Most general aviation airports have a couple of loaners available.
That may be exactly right.
Least they can do when they know you’re going to be buying $1,000 in gas….
Isn’t that the truth. They used to let me fill up my Ford Lightning with 100 no lead at the Clarence Page airport in Yukon. It’s supposed to be av gas only, but decided as long as they attached a spark arrestor to my trucks frame they would fill her up. Expensive, but still cheaper then buying race fuel in 5 gallon containers and mixing it with regular 91 octane! Aircraft have no choice!
Hah! I drove an ’81 Caprice. 454 engine with a 4 barrel carb. No bueno mileage, but the sob would damn near patch when passing on the highway.
Jordan tell them to add some red fuzzy dice to that caprice and it’d be dope
I heard every engineer who worked on developing those ugly sumsabitches got the pink slip handed to them.
I’m just waiting to see Denzel Washington’s face..
BOOM!
And I’ve got an itchy trigger finger….
Pull it you chicken!
There will be no premature ‘boom’ 😉
I’m always right on time.
I reluctantly respect that position
“Skin that smoke wagon and see what happens !!”
Haha… Jordan. You’re awesome brother!
Boom in five seconds.
It was the dad!
That C4 suppository cleaned him out real good.
Good movie
Yo, Eddie George! Woody Strode called…he wants his body back!
Hey guys I got a bit of a problem. My wife says I need to work on my “COMMUNICATION SKILLS” I told her that if we talked every morning and then she sent text messages throughout the day labeled “UPDATE 10:20AM” and such I would respond a lot better because I have a proven tract record of keeping up with all “UPDATES!” SHE DID NOT APPROVE THIS SUGGESTION! 🙂
No pleasing some, now is there?
I tried! What to do, What to do!
I told my former brother-in-law that it’s not about right or wrong, it’s about harmony. The “former” qualifier should tell you he didn’t listen to me.
Hilarious!
Start giving her kisses for no reason. Complement her legs. Tell her you love her for no reason.
Push this with ruthless, pitiless discipline.
You’ll be astounded at how well it works and how much trouble it saves in the long run.
Yeah, know the feeling. My wife is trying to wean me from TFB!!! She doesn’t like it when we’re having sex, and at “THE” moment……I yell BOOM!!!. She has no sense of humor.
Speak with clear pronunciation and at a level she can clearly hear and communicate that you want your freakin supper on the table now. Ask her if that was good enough communication?
Austin might become my fav OU kicker before he even gets here…He’s defending Van on twit from some dawg fans
https://twitter.com/Vj2kAllDay/status/557626117348425729
when you go to his page then click on this ^ tweet to see the comments
BigSeib43 @austinseibert1 44m44 minutes ago
@aharding1993 @Vj2kAllDay call me when you win 7 national championships and beat Alabama in the sugar bowl
If he starts ‘conducting’ tOSU fans before kicking with the game on the line he’d achieve God-hood.
I wouldn’t put it past him. Legatron has some swag and he ain’t afraid to do some talkin.
That’s good a kicker needs that attitude
Legatron! haha, genius.
I’ve always wondered why we didn’t just go to Australia and recruit guys who routinely kick 70-90 yard field goals….and can tackle.
…with no helmet.
😀
this guy
“Cheers, b*tch.”
Going to miss notsoMoneycutt are you?
Good for him. And he’s the best dang kicker in the country! We might just need him in the waning seconds of the NC game in the future when you remember why a great kicker can make a difference!
LMAO. UGA talkin smack at OU lol
Did anyone else see the tweet about Demetric Warren saying there’s a #Boom commit on the way soon?
Yes, we’re eagerly waiting.
Yep, not sure who…He’s predicted two OU commitments…Van Jefferson and Mike Hughes
I see that Hughes is listed as an ATH. What else does he play besides CB?
Probably WR with his size.
Sweet
Sure did. Still can’t believe we might flip Jefferson. Big-time start for Riley.
Regarding Demetric Warren…
I like this x100
yep…
I see they’ve realized the Oregon National Champs shirts will arrive this week.
these guys love good solid info or who doesn’t love a free tshirt? 🙂
Thanks K for all the great info! Like all of us, I am looking for a BOOM.
Loving that….build.it.
BOOM! Come on over Mr. Jefferson
Is it possible Jefferson’s dad is the new WR coach?
I’m hoping so.
Where does his dad coach? I’m a little late to the Jefferson party.
Tennessee Titans
He still there?
Are we “Movin’ on up?”
I strongly desire a ‘Boom’. Be a good fellow and see to it, would you? Thanks awfully.
Hopefully Van will visit again with his good buddy Josh Smith. 🙂
I hope Jefferson if he chooses OU can convince smith. Smith is a must get.
I’m out till later tonight, I fully expect a big BOOM by the time I return. Thanks in advance.
who is this Mike Hughes guy?
athlete out of NC that Riley recruited from EC..looks like a legit wr for bubble screens and quick slants
his film is awesome… equal parts Mark Clayton, Jalen Saunders, Ryan Broyles and Sterling Shepherd..
Not a big fan of Bubble screens. Small wr, are not as good with physical corners in their face…I hope this will not be case. Now If they look like Keyshawn out there ala 200 yard games in the rose bowl that is different. You cannot put a circle in a square peg…
Go watch this guys film the way he weaves thru traffic as an option qb is ideal for the type of way he would be used..bubbles screens and quick slants…there are techniques to keep the big dbs off..this guy will excel in the air raid
Just watched It, kid is pretty good, fluid in motion, he looks like he could do some damage in space…Hope we get em’
Well, when he was running in the wildcat formation and ran 50 yds for the TD, he DID turn the wrong way faking to the fullback. (chill dudes, it’s a joke) Also, this is his Soph highlights. Does anyone know he’s been hurt since then or who else is recruiting him?
He’s committed to UNC and was an early enrollee but has held off on that with the recent events…Riley was recruiting him for EC
Wonder what the rules are on that situation JD? Would that be considered a transfer or does he have to attend a class 1st?
Pretty sure you have to attend class before your locked in
Here you go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdfVpemdtc0
Love this kid’s film. Reminds me a lot of Shepard. Very physical.
Did… did Kish get this done??
Check out 0:51 in the Jefferson vid. He has about 10 yards of separation coming out of his break. What a great route runner!!! So excited to (hopefully) have this kid.
Has there been any consideration or chatter of Lincoln Riley or Bob Stoops hiring Shawn Jefferson (Van’s father) for the WR Coach vacancy?
I’ve been banging that drum! but I don’t count…
I can think of worse things than having an NFL veteran WR actually coaching Wide Receivers. As opposed to a Linebacker/DB coaching them… like Jay Norvell.
I figured if it were him, they would have already announced it. I figure it is a coach at a current college and out of respect for his current situation, they didn’t want that school to lose commits right before signing day.
Shocked about the Jefferson commit, he is a good player and if OU gets him with out a WR coach in place then that is great
Off-topic: Currently on display at the CFHall in Atlanta-
https://twitter.com/OU_Football/status/557586144380981248
Oh I Hope it’s Van Jefferson.. We need Recievers
huh? It’s Perine’s record-breaking day uniform.
as rainy as it was that day, I bet the jersey is still damp!!
Bingo
Cool that you can still see the mud in the cleats.
As far as I’m concerned Perine/Shepard were the only bright spots all year.
Since most of us trust D Warren, he is now projecting Josh Smith to flip to Oregon. Hopefully this can be changed. IMO Smith is the most important recruit on the board right now.
I only like D Warren when he makes pro-OU projections
Haha he really seems at his best at those times.
Kinda like my wife’s sex. I only like it when it’s with me!
Lets just get him on an OV and then its anyones game.
Also has Louis Brown to little bro
Can we all agree that if Riley can’t recruit with Montgomery then the next best guy to go with is Gundy?! Hopefully Gundy will train Riley in his legendary recruiting ways.
Since Kish looks like he’s stayin’ put, they’ll probably have him train him up!!! :-0
Can’t teach old dogs new tricks!!!!!!!!!!!!
AAAAnnnnddd no.
Jefferson looks a lot like Dez Bryant in that film. Would be a huge get.
His film reminds me of a guy named Stills.
minus the speed…4.3 speed anyways…if he was a little faster he would be a 5star…he’s still plenty fast and his route running is excellent…coincidentally both had nfl pops
Not quite the same type of receiver, IMO.
You ruined the moment with that comment.
Looking like Dez and playing like Dez are 2 entirely different things altogether…I could go down the street right now and find you some 6-2 dude that look like Dez but I put money down right now they won’t play like him….Let’s not get ahead of ourselves now..We got 4 freshman wr . who were all-american or all-state yet not one of them except the cali kid had a catch.
Don’t be shocked if the name of Keenan McCardell surfaces as a WR Coach candidate. That’s what I just heard from a somewhat reliable OU source.
I told you to keep that between us.
“Three can keep a secret, if two are dead.” – Ben Franklin
Snitches get stiches. -Billy
I would prefer that snitches end up in ditches!
With stitches…somehow.
LMAO
Thought that was Sonny Barger. Didn’t know Ben rode.
The name has already came up thanks to kersey and flight tracker. In the last few days he tweeted about a flight from Vegas to Norman.
https://twitter.com/OU_CoachJerryM/status/557675986989645825
There aren’t many ‘bad’ weeks to be a Sooner and most weeks ARE great. Thank you Coach Jerry!!!
Decoding might imply there will be 2 commits next week. Filling in the word.
Awesome news on Jefferson…..
Still need a WR coach. Wonder Dad thought of OU during Van’s visit? Didn’t happen to leave a resume did he?
BOOMER!!!
Not sure if addressed in the comments below, but have you guys heard anything on the Van Jefferson/Ole Miss front? Read a coupe places on twitter that Ole Miss actually leads for Jefferson and could pull the trigger with them on his visit to Oxford this weekend.
what insiders?
http://247sports.com/User/Demetric%20Warren/Predictions?PlayerInstitution.PrimaryPlayerSport.Recruitment.Year=2015&PlayerInstitution.PrimaryPlayerSport.Sport=Football
https://twitter.com/OU_CoachGundy/status/557675371899150336
What is this great news?
Got me, just that these guys keep the positive vibes coming is good enough for me for the time being.
I like the vibe and cherish info.
Van Jefferson silent commit and WR coach maybe?
Don’t want no maybe, want great news.
I just like to spark speculation fires.
I’m like Jack.
This is what I’m thinking…we have a silent wr coach that needs to tie loose ends but have talked to Van and his dad about it (might even be his dad)
Well this is awesome!
In the vaguest possible way.
Vaguely awesome! I’m feeling positive today like the coaches.
I’m a positive guy, one that doesn’t like teasing. 🙂
GeeezzzLouiiiiise. . . . this is worse than being told on Dec 1st, “I KNOW WHAT YOU’RE GETTING FOR CHRISTMAS”!!!
If only!!!
https://twitter.com/Boomer145/status/557690211048914944/photo/1
That’s an impressive editing job. Thought the picture was Curtis Lofton with a different number put on him at first; two thumbs for this guy and his recruiting pitch!
I thought it was Ronnell Lewis
WOW!!Go Sooners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No upgrade in vehicle or IMO recruit. Not a fan of “No Hands” Newsome.
https://twitter.com/OU_CoachGundy/status/557697170472992768/photo/1
I would rather them go after AD miller
Me too.
I’ve watched Newsome live, most recently in the state championship game and I never saw what was supposed to be an “elite” WR drop so many simple outs while wide open.
All these guys look good in edited film. Remember when we all raved about ALL the guys we currently have on campus? Now some of them appear to struggle with a soft tossed tennis ball.
I sure hope our current WRs are still using the tennis ball machines like Broyles and Stills did…or start using it.
I would find it hard to believe if they stopped, it is proven to be a good tool.
Things that make you go…hmmm.
It would have to be unplugged or aimed 10ft over their heads to get a game feel for them with what they are used to.
A guy that goes up and high points the ball on a regular basis is special I think. And that’s all of what ad miller’s film was
Then he should make a fine short horn.
Yeah…almost took a shot at Coach Norvell, but not going to.
Keeping it classy EasTex….I like it!
I try…ain’t always easy with all the snark about.
Riley must call shotgun every time.
That’s what happens when you are the FNG.
Goin from POS bowtying to Jeepin’ !!
If it comes down to Jefferson or Newsome I’d prefer Jefferson. OU needs those guys that with bigger wing spans and can catch anything withing ten of them.
Someone said that Jefferson reminded them of stills frame and ability. I would take him in a heart beat
That was me. I recognize that Jefferson may not have Stills’ top-end speed, but he just looks like Stills to me…the way he carries himself on the field, his frame, his stature, his glide and his propensity to get open.
Would be great if he had Stills’ pride. Would be greater if he liked going over the middle more than Stills did.
Would also help if he had a QB with LJ’s passing skills to get him the ball.
Just watched some more Jefferson film…..we need him in a bad way, if for no other reason, he’s already been coached up good.
His first moves on DBs were decisive and sudden.
Me likee.
Runs real crisp routes…the better the routes the slower the top speed needs to be…and he still has decent speed and covers ground with his height
I’m witchu!
Agreed. We have several receivers with good straight-line speed already. We could really use a bigger receiver that makes sharp cuts, runs great routes, and can catch.
So how does DJ Ward fit into the defense this next year. Everyone seemed crazy about him last year.
If he is still in the 250 range I’d say OLB. Of course, that would depend on whether or not he has the skill set for that position. Just seems a little small to play DE in the 3-4.
It depends on what we run. At this point I couldn’t even tell ya what we are going to do. With JM being Co-DC he might have some ideas to help get the best players where they need to be. I don’t think MS knew where to put who and we got outcoached most of the time. I guess we will see (maybe) during spring practices and spring game.
He seemed to be used on 3rd and long in their “NASCAR” defense with 4 DL, mostly.
Do you seem him going to OLB?
Don’t know what he and the coaches know, so I don’t know.
I’m starting to get a good feel on this recruiting class. I think with LR coming in and hitting the ground running, I think we will be ok in the future. Assuming that these kids can play.
You would think as bad as the season was we wouldn’t do as good as we thought. Maybe these coaches are selling them that they can come in a compete and possibly start if they work hard. I’m just ready for NSD to get here so we can start speculating who might start from this class.
Only F’iteen days to go.
Oh yes, it can’t get here soon enough.
Key word there is “only”.
I think LR will do just fine. He’s fresh and younger and not afraid to test the water. Me thinks the players already respect him and his track record.
So what’s the consensus on what the secondary depth chart will look like?
Sanchez and Thomas at corner or will someone move in there?
Parker at FS
Byrd at SS?
tell you what, if J. Thomas misses any tackles in Spring he goes to the bench.
Need to have them on some tackling drills for sure!
Perhaps Jordan should spend some after practice time in the Oklahoma drill against Perine. That’ll toughen him up.
you wanna toughen him up, not kill him 🙂
+1,000
Simple solution to the tackling problems, as far as I’m concerned. Simply do what Pete Carroll did.
Seattle trained with rugby players, who coach tackling at the waste instead of high or low. They are extremely disciplined at it and, as we all see, they don’t miss many tackles.
Sanchez and Parker yes….everything else is open for competition as far as I’m concerned.
Agree with you brother. Thomas on the bubble screens/one on one tackling against Clemson was a disgrace.
I put both corner spots open with a new coach coming in
Wouldn’t hurt anything.
You think Sanchez is not a starter? He had a good first half and decent second half right?
I think Sanchez needs to feel like his spot is up for grabs
Okay. Based on what though?
Based on the terrible pass D we had…I’ll blame the coaches but you still have to clear up that area of the D and Sanchez was inconsistent.. getting beat some especially later in the year when we played better competition…I’ll give him a pass for missed tackles on the short passes after his shoulder injury…and he’s def the fav to have a spot but we need shut down corners and if somebody else is better then the spot should be theirs..that’s just how it should be if we want the best D we can have…I’m pulling for him but he needs to work and earn it
I didn’t see Sanchez get beat a lot later in the year. I saw our safeties get torched later in the year and the other CB, but not Sanchez.
Well I’m not going to argue with you so I’ll not waste either of our times on the subject but I see it different than you
Why? Sanchez did his job.
He can do better
I’m sure he will. All of them can do better but I don’t get the consensus among some of the fanbase that Sanchez isn’t very good. That’s not what I see.
I hope he does…I hope you aren’t implying that I said he wasn’t any good because I didn’t…I’m just saying he should have to earn his spot moving forward…he gets caught looking in the backfield too often and gets beat deep..am I wrong…that’s a fixable problem
Wasn’t implying that you said anything like that. I was just asking a question generally about the opinion some have on Sanchez and why they feel that way. Curiosity……..not arguing.
He’s good but he’s isn’t the shizzle some make him out to be.
With you on this. He ain’t no Colvin, not even a shadow of him.
i’m picking up what you’re putting down. personally, i think he’s somewhere between how jd and dc see him. so if jd sees him as a 4/5 and dc sees him as an 8/8.5 i could see him somewhere in the 7/7.5 range with the chance to be a 9. he’s got talent, loads of it, he needs to stop being his biggest fan, he needs to stop looking in the backfield(as i think jd said), he’s GOT TO wrap up or he’ll keep messing that shoulder up and looking dumb for yet another guy bouncing off while he cheers his own hit. there’s more but off the top of my head those are what i can think of and easily fixable. makes it exciting that maybe he hears it from a different voice and something lands to make him the best i think he can be
LOL you make it sound like I think Sanchez sucks giving him a 45 lol…I like Sanchez..all I’m saying is HOPEFULLY we get better play at the cb position whether it be Sanchez or somebody else…we had 117th pass D…That is unacceptable..totally unacceptable! Hopefully the new cb coach doesn’t look at the past depth chart when picking his starters and actually coaches up and gets the two best out on the field…No doubt that Sanchez was our best option last year but we need his last years play to be our weakest of the two spots next year at the least…The guys need to step up their game…117!!!! They need to write that on their lockers and not forget it
I see what you’re saying but that 117th ranking you’re talking about, IMO, falls more on the shoulders of our safeties and whomever the CB opposite Sanchez is. Sanchez shows up ready to play every Saturday from what I’ve seen. He’ll improve his skills, as he has been doing already, and he’ll be a great one by the time he leaves here.
I agree, Sanchez made a huge step between the previous year and this past year. He played injured something like the last half of the season. Definitely needs to change his approach on tackling. The big hit is ok, but needs to get a wrap up.
I hope so because it was inconsistent this last year…we need a corner to have one side of the field locked down…Sanchez didn’t have that last year…he was good and our best but other teams still went to his side of the field…I guess I just want to have the best defense we can have…hopefully in year three Sanchez will get that respect and be lock down…last year he wasn’t
haha. i should have said my scale wasn’t to scale. i wasn’t meaning that you thought he sucked, just trying to help myself find a positive sounding middle ground and not sound like switzerland. i brought up yesterday that it seems like you almost need 2 richard sherman’s and 9 kam chancellor’s to have any sort of d in our conference. it sounds silly but its freaking difficult to play d in this conference week in and week out. i think sanchez can be awesome and hopefully this new coach has the voice or experience or whatever it ends up taking to get fully through to him and bring out his inner sherman
The best I can remember playing against these offenses was the 08 tech game (might have been 07 season). They came to town ranked #2 and we completely shut them out…Mike should review that game to get some ideas
good idea. and then when a different team/coordinator has variations you can match up your variations with the different caveats etc etc. hopefully that makes as much sense to you as it does clanging in my head
although i’m sure that’s just normal d coordinator stuff and means i’m not really saying much. man, i’d hate to be a d coordinator in this conference
He’s a completely different CB than Colvin. Sanchez is more aggressive than Colvin ever was. Not saying he’s better…..but he’s more aggressive.
Besides Perine …….who couldn’t?
Perine is one of the few I’d lock in
Shep’s alright when not hurt.
Yeah I don’t think he’ll have trouble keeping his spot..he’s in the same situation as Sanchez (new coach and all) but seriously when has Shep had a bad game…I can’t really think of one
He’s solid, seldom makes a mistake.
So can we all.
Not me…I’m maxed out
He could tackle for crap and got burned just as many times as he picked people off. He’s good, but not great.
His tackling improved this year over last year and he got torched in the WVU game with a bum shoulder by a guy who’s gonna play on Sundays and also torched Alabama’s DBs. Beyond that…..I don’t recall Sanchez getting torched much. I DO recall him shutting down Lockett all by himself so bad they had to move Lockett to Wilson’s side just to free him up. Nobody else was able to do that to Lockett.
Sanchez’s name is written in pen at the top of the depth chart
Are you the new cb coach…I hope he wins it but if somebody is better then they need to be in there..we had the 117th ranked pass d…if that was our team ranking the whole staff would be gutted
Feel free to enlighten me as to who is better than Sanchez. Which CB is going to suddenly unseat a guy with 26 starts, 21 PBU and 8 INTs? I’m not saying he’s amazing or a future NFL stud, but he’s obviously the best we have.
I’m not at practice to see..I’m just saying hopefully we get better play out of the cb position..whether it be Sanchez or one of the other young guys. He started as a redfresh so it’s not impossible for a young guy to come in and be better…I’d take half the INTS he got if it meant half the TDs he gave up since your throwing stats out there
How many TDs did he give up?
go look for yourself…too many..the pass D was 117th…117th!!! Hell he gave up two or three in the sugar bowl alone
Ok bud
Kinda what I’m thinking. LOL……Outside of the WVU game, I don’t recall Sanchez giving up much of anything all year and his tackling was solid every game after that game. He pwned Lockett all by himself.
I think the weakness was on the other side. And the 117th you keep citing is on the team, not just Sanchez. If I have anything to really fault him for, it would be he needs some time in the weight room. His tackling isn’t all world, but there’s a lot worse on the field than him. Correct the safety play and the other corner and I’m good.
I hope they have someone better.
Or I at least hope he gets better. OU had some serious issues back there. Need something to change for sure.
Permanent marker.
Stamped. lol
Branding iron. LOL
Triple stamped. No erasees.
Tattooed
Agreed! This was a learning season Sanchez. Think he has a break out senior year!
Sanchez will be a junior
Your right! My bad.
But he’s thinking he’s a Senior, bet he’s gone.
Man I hope so…we need to tighten the D up if we want to get thru the season…hopefully the offense really puts out and the D gets tweaked up to give us that magical season..we’ve been close the last few years
I’ll wait and see what one P.J. Mbanasor has to say about it.
PJ got caught looking at the QB in the all American game and got burned deep.
He sure did. He got punked by the WR bad.
My first thought was…made you look.
All positions on both sides need to be open. No one should have a guaranteed spot. They need to earn it and keep it every week. If they can’t the next best player needs to be in there.
I watched a few no-huddle replay games on soonertv this weekend. I’ve got this to say about Sanchez— he couldn’t carry Colvin’s jock strap. He has a lot of work to put in to get better. His thoughts of going pro after next season needs some serious reevaluation. Tackling is an issue, run support could get better; bigger recievers can push him around. He is certainly a ball hawk but he isn’t quite the lock down cover guy some think he is.
He is a good college corner. He would get smoked in the pros with the double move and the more physical receivers. He is awesome on the short routes picking off balls. His technique used for tackling is what got him hurt. I like him a lot but he needs to work hard and not assume he can’t lose his spot.
Nobody can answer this till SOMEBODY decides how we are going to play our DBs. It was a combo of playing a ton of ten yards off zone schemes and don’t get beat deep and very little press coverage. But assuming Bod Stoops was talking about the whole team ( I think in his end of the year presser) when he said he wanted to get back to dictating to the other team instead of being so reactionary as a team then that would suggest more man coverage and if so everything could change cause the DBs have different strengths. I do believe Sanchez and Parker find their way on the feild but it will be open I predict! JMO
Don’t look now but K State is giving Iowa State all they want @ Iowa Sate.
Dang it…im missing it…time to change the channel…thanks
Speculation question for you guys smarter than me………..ok everyone:-) If we get one or two good surprises down the stretch up to and including NSD, what could those be?
Seems like every year we snag one or two we didn’t expect.
My wish list?
Darrion Daniels and Demarcus Lodge.
Murray?
Of course, but I wouldn’t see that as a big shock.
Daniels wouldn’t be a huge shock though would it?
He seems so enigmatic in his recruiting, I would consider it a surprise.
Chip Kelly Co-Offensive Cooridnator.
Quick OT before I have dinner.
The first episode of the final season of Justified is on at 9CDT on FX.
Will he actually make it out of Harlan alive?
Only if he has a solid move off the line to beat the press and can out run the deep safety.
I’d like his chances better if he didn’t carry a Glock. :-0
Yep, Desert Eagle is the good bet.
Good choice, but not for strutting around.
Ought to go with the S&W M&P in .45ACP.
Shortest trigger reset in modern single actions.
My boss carries the M&P, I’m partial to my XD 40. I would like to shoot them side by side to see if I notice any difference.
If you put it in your hand be sure and ask which palm insert is in it. They come in S/M/L.
I have so many hand guns, all different shapes and sizes, I’ve learned to adapt to whatever is in my hand. lol.
My oldest brother(former QB) has smaller hands, when picked one up with the M insert he fell in love and bought it instantly.
Aced his CHL qualifying after having only put 50 rounds through it.
HILARIOUS !!! We go from talking LB’s, QB’s and WR’s to Desert Eagles!!! Now that’s a BOOM! I was just wondering. . . .If a recruit is on his official visit and Gundy lets him drive the ’91 station wagon, is that an illegal inducment?
Only if they lose a hub cap.
I’ve had my fair share of handguns. I enjoy shooting my Wilson Combat 1911 the best……so accurate.
I have one of those. Pretty powerful peace maker.
It’s about all you want without a shoulder stock. 🙂
First couple of shots at the range everybody stopped shooting to see where all the noise was coming from.
I’ve got a 9MM Glock, AND a .50 Desert Eagle which I can’t hit Jack $hit with. The DE sprays so much unburned powder you can’t stand directly next to someone firing it, LOL. It looks amazing at night of course. It is so loud it makes 44 mags sound like a 22, and I have to tell them at the range what I’m shooting or they think I’ve had a misfire.
The only problem I have found with the DE in .50AE is it beats the crap out of the lips on the magazines.
I guess I can’t afford to shoot it enough to make that happen! The Israeli’s were the first ones to be confident they could control all that force I suppose, but it has to be beating up the frame as well. But it’s fun.
Sooooo……much fun!
It sounds like a spiking hammer hitting a rail when that slide locks after chambering a round.
Why are you taking shots at Jack $hit? Did he pi$$ you off? 🙂
I used to carry a G30. But I grew up and now only carry 1911s. Just sent a Commander off to Lou Biondo of Business End Customs for a go-through. Can’t wait to get it back
I highly recommend the extended mag release.
You don’t need to manipulate the gun to hit the release with your thumb, makes for much quicker reloads.
http://www.overstock.com/Sports-Toys/Wilson-Combat-Colt-1911-Extended-Magazine-Release/5327777/product.html
I like my Glock. Buncha elitists! But I carry a Sig. The G21 is a little on the bulky side unless you’re into trench coats.
Lots of folks like their Glocks. There are many, many reasons I don’t like them, not the least being that they have issued numerous model recalls that they refer to as “upgrades” over the years and don’t let anyone know. The owner has to find out about it themselves.
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/problems.html
Eh, mine’s been reworked anyway, but I’ve never had a problem with it. A little heavy with a full clip but that’s about it.
Clip?
/clips are not magazines
Heh, not to weapons elitists, but to an old Okie they are. The art of communication is being understood.
Edit: “This is my riffle, this is my gun. This one’s for fighting, this one’s for fun.” I still call them guns. Poor attitude I guess.
To this old vet there is a clear difference. You call for a mag, you get a magazine, hopefully loaded. Call for a clip, you get a stripper clip and have to load the mag yourself.
Welp then I was right. No one has loaded my clips for me in decades. lol
There is a distinction, Clips Are Not Magazines…unless you own a Marlin rifle.
http://thegunzone.com/clips-mags.html
Heh, you’re retired military aren’t you? But just to ease your mind, magazine. There I said it, er typed. I was 11B20 Automatic Rifleman. Can’t remember if I called them clips or magazines, but I’m pretty sure I got what I needed.
Not retired, just a vet of the Great Asian Vacation.
The important thing is to know which end of the tube the little pointy things come out of. 🙂
Police action eh? Nothin’ to it. Yeah and don’t catch your thumb in that sliding bolt thing. 8>)
Ha!
Nothing like standing on a tarmac in Saigon with rockets and mortar rounds flying in.
1975ish? I was 68-69, so I must be much younger than you.
I’m 64 and getting better every danged day!
Well I’ve got a few on you, but you’re right it just keeps getting better. Thank you for your service. Justified was good, poor old Dewy. I’ll miss Ava the most; something about the ones with a little bit of a rough edge.
Thanks to you too, bruh.
Dewey was the first official casualty of the original cast. I’m betting there will be many more of them before this season is done.
Yeah, kind of like “Sons of Anarchy” if you watched that one. Almost killed of the entire cast. “Americans” is another good one; but their all winding down. Need Spring to get here so I can get to my chores.
I watched SoA out of morbid curiosity to see which murderous miscreant would get murdered next. 🙂
Love the Americans, I remember the tension with the commies during the early Reagan years.
After about May, I turn off all but the basics on my cable bill until the end of August.
especially considering they play by college rules and are allowed to be physical beyond 5 yards…
No. He’ll go down shooting. Looking forward to this season.
Well, the song says NOBODY gets out of Harlan alive…so.
http://youtu.be/yqDVObM1kxc
Now you’re playin’ my music Tex.
I think he goes down at the end in a pile of brass Tex.
Possible, though I can’t recall Raylan ever having to reload.
Raylan cant go down… End of show… not gonna happen. just sayin
It will be interesting to find out if he gets out and watches that little girl grow up.
yeah, gonna be a great season.
Well, the original cast body count is now officially one.
So long Dewey.
Reminds me of Unforgiven when the one armed deputy is asked why he wants to carry two guns. “I don’t want to get killed from a lack of shootin’ back.”
That’s true. But this is the final season so the ending has to be epic. I’m still going with the pile of brass and Brad Paisley singing in the background.
Sadness. Hate to see it end. Sip a little apple pie and watch the final frames.
I would like to see Cody Wheeler of Allen get an OU offer. The guy can play OG or OC. To me he is ever bit as good as Bobby Evans. Just as strong. I see he just committed to Ttech .
Are we recruiting Mike Hughes? Saw on LandThieves someone said we are. He’s currently committed to North Carolina, but his film is absolutely ridiculous! He’s at the top of my list just from watching the first 2 minutes of it.
He was recruited by Lincoln Riley to ECU who is now hoping to get him since he is at a bigger and better school!
How fast is that kid. He’s a blur like Westbrook playing football
It was discussed earlier. Good player. Reminds me of Shepard.
Might be one of the fastest guys I’ve seen in this class.
Agreed that’s the fastest kid I have seen in this class!
Walker 4.67, Wade 4.8, Tapper 4.56 (40 times)…Any way we can get more aggressive with the down lineman in a 3-4 scheme?
Romar ain’t exactly slow, either.
If they get past their blocks..that scrambling qb is in trouble!!
The Dline won’t be lacking for explosiveness.
We could get more aggressive with the entire defense
Move to a 1 gap 3-4 from the 2 gap and unleash the hounds.
Wait…whuh?
that’s just some dude dreaming
Well, wish he would keep his dreams to himself, then.
for sure you had me going “huh”?/
Weren’t me, I was all “WHUH”?
yea i was like damn they’re cleaning house right now
Don’t be shootn’ those fake booms at us Tex.
I didn’t give no booms, just a “wait…whuh”?
This almost gave me arithmia.
LOL!
Sounds like you fear a mathematical heart condition.
My heart valves were racing.
Put the Eagle down, no BOOM needed just yet.
Geeeeez Tex, saw this and about lost my mind
thought you didn’t like to tease, Tex? made my heart start racing when I clicked into this page….all for not….so far
I don’t like teasing, that’s why I went “whuh.”
I like the sound of it if it were true, though.
247Sports list the performance of their 2014 5* recruits. They had 33 players make the list. Six redshirted the other 27 were all productive in 2014. Many were team stars. For certain it illustrates why the emphasis exist to recruit 5*/4* athletes instead of area athlete that would die to play for the Sooners and be totally committed but not rated nearly so high.
It appears at this time that there is not a bust among the 33 unless that would be Joe Mixon as a result of the personal problems he has faced. And I suspect he will be more than just a contributor for the Sooners in 2015.
http://247sports.com/Article/247Sports-Recruiting-Rankings-2014-Class-Leonard-Fournette-34866627
Sure. But the trouble is that there are only so many of the 5 & 4 star players to go around. I would love to take all that we can get, but there is tremendous competition out there for their services. We will sometimes have to supplement with diamonds in the rough and I’m good with that. Just as long as we get our share of the 5’s and 4’s.
Some of that could be attributed to the environment. If you are perceived to be a highly rated HS player, you will probably go to a very good college program; where you will be surrounded by other very good athletes. Which would enhance the opportunity for success.
Any news on John Houston? I have been hearing a little buzz about him?