Open Post | Tuesday, June 23rd

Du’Vonta Lampkin: We’ve had a few request for updates on the Du’Vonta Lampkin situation. You will recall back in May we were first to report that Lampkin wouldn’t be attending UT after all and instead was strongly considering Oklahoma.

I have spoken to a couple sources recently and Oklahoma is still Du’Vonta’s likely landing spot. In fact, I am told in no uncertain terms that Oklahoma is absolutely where he intends on being so long as he is able. The hold up right now is of course the letter of intent. A source close to Lampkin told me that right now Texas is refusing to release him from his national letter of intent and “it looks pretty unlikely that he will even be able to report for fall camp.”

I realize by now a number of sites have reported on this matter and to be honest the subject isn’t one I’ve followed particularly closely so I’m sure many of you know the rules regarding his eligibility and the timing of the NCAA automatic release better than I. What I do believe based on the conversations I have had with a source since we first reported on this and what seemed clear when I spoke to a source regarding it recently is simply that Lampkin will not qualify for Texas and as such will, at some point, be released from his national letter of intent. And again, Lampkin has every intention of being at Oklahoma even if it isn’t until after fall camp.

At this point it doesn’t seem incredibly urgent simply because I never anticipated Lampkin being a contributor this season. – (Super K)

Team News | Quarterbacks: Per a request last week from one of our readers, I did ask around about the quarterback situation. During the summer, as most of you know, there is player led 7-on-7 a couple times per week. I am told that Baker Mayfield does start off each day with the first team. Was told by a source that “if it was decided today I think the nod would go to Mayfield”. I tried to gauge how the quarterback’s looked generally. I was told by one source that the QBs look pretty good but with the caveat, “it’s 7 on 7”. There obviously isn’t a huge offensive line in front of you, there isn’t a pass rush, etc. So it can be tough to know how that will translate. But I was told by a source that within the 7 on 7 setting they are “drastically improving” and that sounds promising because it can speak to accuracy. And in 7 on 7 there are still route concepts and defensive calls that a QB has to read and make a decision.

I continue to hear that the weapons around the quarterback are absolutely there (again, Westbrook comes up for the millionth time with a source…apparently he made some acrobatic catch recently and has been abusing anyone they put in front of him). But I think it’s just too early to say how Baker and Knight will look when the bullets are live.

Did hear that Cody Thomas is beginning to close the gap in 7 on 7. Was told by a source that Cody is going to be “very good actually”. Again though, not sure how all this will translate in live situations.

I definitely understand everyone’s concern and interest on this particular point. I think most would agree that getting good and consistent quarterback play can really change the course of a football team’s season. – (Super K)

 

267 Comments

  • Barry Duren says:

    First! Thanks the the intel guys!

  • Ryan says:

    Will this hurt Ut’s future recruiting? It would seem like a pretty bad thing to many kids and parents out there who see what is happening with Lampkin. Pretty selfish. Kingsbury like.

    • Super K says:

      Wouldn’t think so. Not anymore than they are already struggling at the moment.

    • Bob Edwards says:

      Not sure how this would affect them. The kid is the one that didn’t get the job done. They played it by the book and gave him to the start of the semester to honor his commitment. Take off the “I hate Texas” glasses and look at it from a neutral position. Kid signs a NLI and then several months before classes begin starts saying he can’t get eligible even though he has time, in theory, to do so. Why should a school let him out until they have no other choice? Otherwise, kids will start coming up with all sorts of reasons to get out. “Oops, I forgot to send in my immunization form, can’t be admitted now, got to let me out of my NLI.”

      OK, now put the “I hate Texas” glasses back on, they shouldn’t be left off for too long.

      • Cush Creekmont says:

        Yep. A person could go blind without something to filer out those sexat “rays of evil.” Come to think of it, we ought to sell those – heck of a market.

      • Sooner 76 says:

        You leave out an important point, my friend. And that is, their former DL coach lied to Lampkin, promising that he would remain at texass. I think Lampkin is really mad about that lie and is taking advantage of an out he has. And I don’t blame him. Very different from Monty’s situation, where the NFL called AFTER signing day.

        • rphokc says:

          so, has he even met reynolds

        • Bob Edwards says:

          Well we can discuss that if you want, but that is changing the subject of the discussion. The issue at hand is the handling of his NLI because of his being ineligible for admission and how that could be used against Texas.

          I have problem with the way the whole system works regarding NLI and coaching changes after signing day. I personally think, that the NLI should contain the name of the head coach, the position coach, and the recruiting coach. If any of those leave, the player should have thirty days to reopen his recruiting and sign another NLI with another school. Don’t look for the NCAA to protect the players in that way though, they long ago quit protecting the player and started protecting the money.

  • 47 Straight OU Know says:

    Thanks for the News, Because in these slow times anything helps widdle away the day.

  • bjwalker82 says:

    Cody Thomas? I’ve also got this tree in Brooklyn I wanna tell you about

  • Tipman says:

    Sorry if this is an ignorant question but how do 7 on 7s work? Specifically, are the QBs running Riley’s new offensive plays and is it in the same up-tempo style? Do the QBs rotate ever series? Do they keep score? Are there multiple units (2 defensive, 2 offensive) rotating out there at one time? Thanks

    • Super K says:

      They are running plays/passing concepts given to them. Don’t know about the temp. QBs do rotate each series I believe. And no, just one unit at a time.

  • EasTex says:

    My question with the Lampkin situation is how would his coming to OU impact the possible signing of some exciting 2016 DL prospects?
    There is something about his situation that makes me uncomfortable.

    • Sooner 76 says:

      Obviously it would, my friend, for no other reasons than it would take a scholarship and fill a slot on the DL. Nevertheless, I would take him in a heartbeat.

      • EasTex says:

        It troubles me.
        OU would have a “certain” addition to the DL and not a “maybe,” but is he a better DL prospect than the kids that have been offered? Not certain about that.
        Then there are some questions about how he arrived at his current situation that trouble me. I wouldn’t rubber stamp his entry into OU.
        I trust the coaches and if they welcome him aboard then I will accept their decision.

      • Boom says:

        Tell me your take on his talents as you seem high on him. I don’t know very much about DL techniques so your input is appreciated.

  • Tipman says:

    Who chooses what players run with the 1st team offense and defense?

  • EasTex says:

    Also, thanks for the insights on the 7on7’s.
    I like our QB, whoever it may be. 🙂

    • BigJoeBrown says:

      I know I am an optomist, but I think we are going to see a lot of development in regards to QB’s.

      • EasTex says:

        I agree.
        Also, having Coach Riley on the sideline will be a huge factor.

      • Boom says:

        Our QBs will benefit from Riley’s system which will open up the passing lanes. Our WR’s are better & will create separation compared to last year. Also, we will keep the def on their heels due to our RBs. Incorporating a flex TE will be fun to watch.

  • KJ1123 says:

    I hear that not only is Gallimore a manchild, he’s deceivingly fast and is consistently beating DE’s (freshmen) during running drills. Excited to see how he develops over the next couple years.

  • Sooner 4Ever says:

    15th! Love getting any team news this time of year (unless it’s “team news” of a player getting into trouble).

  • Bob Edwards says:

    Thanks K. As for the QB’s the knock on TTech QB’s when Leach was there was that they were not that good, they were just products of the system. Well one of the guys on campus can be a system QB and pass for 4500-5000 yards in the season and I will be happy.

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    Thank you K! I want the QB to complete the 5 yard outs and on the bubble screens not throw behind the WR making him turn and lose his momentum to gain the 5 yards the play was designed to get(happened a lot last year with TK9). Keep the offense in running situations and force the LBs and safeties to stay near the LoS to stop Samaje and Mixon and I think the offense will be just fine.

    • soonermusic says:

      jmho, but many if not most of the time when I saw that last year, it appeared to me that the receiver was not where he was supposed to be… (this was often reflected in the coaches’ comments as well)

      • Soonerfandave84 says:

        not saying they weren’t but Knight should’ve been able to see it and throw an accurate pass

        • Boom says:

          Like when the pros throw a go and the WR does a come back. I guess the QB should see this. The ball is out during the breaks. WR’s weren’t there or didn’t see what the QB saw so if you don’t know, the QB is the easiest to blame.

          • Soonerfandave84 says:

            who said anything about the wrong route? throwing behind a guy on a screen is definitely not the same thing

          • soonermusic says:

            If the receiver is in the wrong place on a screen pass–keeps running to the boundary when he’s supposed to turn upfield or stop and come back, or turns upfield too soon, or any of a number of other things, the pass will be behind him… Many of the throws are timing plays and both sides have to have the timing right or the pass will be off. Sometimes it’s obvious when you look back at it, where the receiver was expected to be and wasn’t. Sometimes you can’t tell.

          • Soonerfandave84 says:

            Not saying Im an expert, but I have played WR and know how to run a screen play. If you want to say timing, thats fine and I agree but most of it seemed on Knight as the play was open if the pass was where the WR was, instead they ended in 2 yard gains a lot.

          • soonermusic says:

            “I have played WR and know how to run a screen play” Do you have any eligibility left? 🙂

          • Soonerfandave84 says:

            lol i bet they can find a way 😉

          • Bob Edwards says:

            I don’t think in these discussions that anyone is saying it couldn’t have been Knight’s fault. But unless you know what the actual play was and what each player’s responsibility on that particular play you cannot know for sure whose fault it was. It is important to note that both coaches for the positions in that exchange got canned. So the head man appeared to think there were problems with both.

          • Soonerfandave84 says:

            agreed

          • Boom says:

            Screen is a moving target, not a route. Sure, the QB may have messed up a throw but what QB doesn’t. Trevor had his issues last year. However, I don’t think that offense helped and not having a back up with experience put him in a straight jacket from the coaches.

          • Soonerfandave84 says:

            It was both at times, i was commenting on what stuck out to me the most. I know no one outside of Shepard helped Knight out

          • SoonerNutt says:

            No question both QB and WR play was questionable last year. Other than #3, of course. But I would add that it is not in question that Knight has accuracy issues.

  • KJ1123 says:

    The starting QB will be……….the one who makes the least mistakes during camp 🙂

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      both of the front runners are turnover prone guys

      • KJ1123 says:

        I think the pressure is on those two which sets up nicely for Thomas. His height is a big factor for me too, just being able to have that vision without having to scramble is a big advantage. It’ll be an interesting camp.

        • Soonerfandave84 says:

          I agree, and the only throw the entire spring game that was a quality throw was his slant to Mead(I think)

          • hOUligan says:

            Agree. Want the best to be behind center whoever it is…BUT…I would really like to see Thomas emerge as the backup and take over. Think he has all of the tools and do like the size. Made some nice throws in the spring game FWIW.

          • Soonerfandave84 says:

            He “looks” like the best QB, I just want to see him be able to read a defense with guys coming at him though.

          • D Hunter Sanchez says:

            Thomas couldn’t hit the side of barn last year.

          • Soonerfandave84 says:

            Yeah, I know.

          • D Hunter Sanchez says:

            Disagree. Watch the tape of Mayfield please.

        • SoonerOracle737 says:

          I’m not pulling for one guy over another – just want the best. But it would seem that Cody Thomas would have the most long term upside since he has all the physical attributes to excel.

        • Boom says:

          Guess Drew Bree’s should’ve got that memo on height

          • KJ1123 says:

            If we have a Brees is on our roster then I guess he should be the starter. Brees doesn’t scramble alot. TK and Bake do.

          • Boom says:

            This isn’t the pros

          • KJ1123 says:

            Exactly…so shouldnt be a comparison to start.

          • D Hunter Sanchez says:

            Hence, wouldn’t you agree that the scrambling ability of Mayfield and Knight nullifies their lack of height and gives them an advantage over the apparent slow-footedness of Thomas?

          • Krys Allen says:

            Thomas seemed pretty fast in that first game he played in last year.. or maybe it was the second one where he ran the ball alot

          • KJ1123 says:

            Yeah he must not be too slow, he did play outfield as well.

          • SavageSoonerEsq says:

            I agree, I thought when he ran he looked pretty fast. Not a burner, but plenty fast to avoid some tackles and pick up 1st downs with his feet. He seemed about as effective with his feet as TK when given the opportunity IMHO.

          • D Hunter Sanchez says:

            He lumbers. He just didn’t impress me as a starter. We couldn’t move the ball through the air. I’ve seen players like Joey Hazle come in and at least move the team. Sorry, but it can’t just be the OC and WR Coach.

          • KJ1123 says:

            Not necessarily, scrambling limits the view of the entire field and the ability to deliver the ball effectively across. The qbs have to work with what they got, CT may not need to scramble as much because he has a better view of the field, BM and TK may need to scramble out of necessity to create lanes because their views are limited. The only advantage for any of these qbs in my opinion will inevitably depend on what they have between their ears.

          • Boom says:

            Agree on the decision making. To me TK throws better on the move than in the pocket. If he plays, I hope he has the flexibility to move out of the pocket if necessary to make a play. Hopefully what’s changed in TK’s game is staring down 1 WR.
            Don’t know much about BM other than he’s run this O before. Seems like he would be a shoe in but all of them will be competing. To me, we the fans are the winners cause these guys are working their tail off to earn it.

      • Kuzi says:

        In the past, true. Some of the turnover problems have been indecisiveness and inexperience. As these guys develop and get some coaching, which I hope Riley will be able to do, they should have a better understanding of what they are seeing and, thus, cut the interceptions down.

    • Mr. Jones says:

      “Analysis” 😉

    • Lincoln Hawk says:

      I’m going with Perine then.

    • Bob Edwards says:

      I thought it was the one who could best pretend that there was actually an option where the QB could take the ball in the zone read. Oops, sorry wrong offensive coordinator.

      • ToatsMcGoats says:

        You’re both wrong. It’s the one that does the best Johnny Manziel impression…wait…wrong OC again…

  • soonermusic says:

    Thanks for the great update. I am encouraged to hear about Westbrook again. If things are dramatically better, some will say that it’s the coaching, or the development, but, as I’ve said before, I still believe you cannot underestimate the need for highly effective play in the receiver department and I trace most of last year’s qb woes to a lack of that–jmho. I also suspect that if the qb derby remains close, the escapability factor will play and important roll in the decision.

    • Exiled In Ohio says:

      I agree. I don’t think the QB was in the position last year to just “take what’s there”, because often there wasn’t a lot of good options. That leads the QB into forcing things. With better receivers and better routes, I think we’ll see the QBs look significantly better.

      I also agree with your “escapability” argument. If TK9 is more agile and less turnover-prone (yes, I know I’m in the minority who still believe in him), I can see him capturing the starter role. Particularly if Riley takes the running restrictions off of him. It is pretty demoralizing to a defense when they do everything right and the QB rips off a 10 yard scramble.

      • Pokerman says:

        I’m with you. I still love the extra dimension that Knight gives us at QB and I too believe all our QB’s should show significant improvement with a better system and better coaches.

    • hOUligan says:

      …and the Norvell ‘move’. As has been said…insert dead horse…Norvell brought in some guys with *stars* but the majority did not develop and many had character issues. With Riley and Gundy, expect to see a lot of guys running better routes in a more well-thought-out cohesive offense. Think it will come down to which QB can ‘see the open receiver ‘and make the quick decision. Think all the QBs are physically capable of completing passes.

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      Meaning Mayfield? He can run too.

  • Cole says:

    Not that rankings matter but Jon-Michael Terry is a 4* by ESPN.

  • Fear The Magic says:

    Im usually a glass half full kind of guy and I know Westbrook is good….real good, but when I read that he ( or anyone ) is “abusing the dbs” it worries me. To get beaten on a play where you’re on your man is one thing but to be abused doesnt sound good to me.

    • Boom says:

      Depends. If he is truly special and turns out to be a great pro WR, then we will know. Not to many pro CB’s on every college team. The ones we think are great sometimes are nothing more than role players in the pros or don’t even make it.
      I’m glad we have someone to push the CB’s which is the way I like to view this.

      • Fear The Magic says:

        I absolutely get that and thought about that very thing before I wrote what I did …trust me… but I guess its just a knee jerk reaction from flashing back to the Baylor and Clemson games. Our Dbacks looked like they were totally lost.

        • Boom says:

          3 freshman playing against 2 big 12 all conf players will get you humbled. Wilson was playing but don’t think he’s true CB. I may get hammered for saying that but never saw that in him. I saw NB.

      • SamSooner says:

        I agree.

    • KJ1123 says:

      Could be Westbrook is really excelling against a certain D scheme. Like he’s killing against zone coverage or something. Now if he’s flat out beating man coverage with help over the top that could be concerning indeed.

    • SamSooner says:

      Fear, I’ll see if I can’t fill your glass half way: at least the DBs are getting experience in covering someone with Westbrook’s skills.

      • Fear The Magic says:

        If you fill that glass half way with vodka I’m all in lol

        • SamSooner says:

          Deal. What’s your preference?

          • Fear The Magic says:

            Stoli should do the trick

          • hOUligan says:

            Have you tried ‘Tito’s’? Made in tejas. Good for sippin’.

          • Fear The Magic says:

            Not yet. Im working my way through every vodka known to mankind alphabetically and Im only up to the “S’s”. Titos is on my list to do.
            Thanks.

          • boomersooner says:

            Eww. You’re in the s’s and you like stoli best? Just kidding. To each his own. Try zyr when you get there. It and goose are my favorites

          • ColoradoSooner says:

            When you were at ‘G’ did you try Gioli? If not, give it a try – very nice!

    • SoonerNutt says:

      Kind of depends on who the guys are who getting “abused”. If they are freshmen, then going up against a quality WR who has two years Juco experience is going to be a learning experience. I’m a little worried about the DBs in general as well, though. How could we not be, after the fiasco that was our secondary last year?

    • Super K says:

      I’ve been told, “he’s earning every dollar of his scholarship”. I really think this kid is going to be a problem for a lot of DBs. Obviously he will need a QB to get him the ball but all signs point to the fact that this fella can absolutely go.

      • Fear The Magic says:

        Watching him in the spring game he certainly seemed to have a speed gear that no one else on the field had.

      • Coach K says:

        I truly think he is Jalen Saunders part II. He runs like him with his turnover in the back and heel contact. He is extremely quick out of cuts and gets separation. The key is he gives the QB two good go to guys not just Shep this year. If they have their best guy on Shep then their 2nd best guy has to be able to cover him. If they try to bracket one or both look out for Quick or Andrews inside.

        I am also hoping those two can knock the top off the defense with speed which will push the safeties deep and allow more space for Perine Ross and Mixon. I heard from a player that Ou finally has a guy calling plays that won’t just run Alex up the middle haha. I also heard that Mixon is really tough on the quick reverse.

        • Drew says:

          I don’t know. While Saunders was great at getting separation, Idk if I’d say he was “fast”. On the other hand, Westbrook seems to thrive off his speed from what I’ve gathered. So, maybe more of a Iglesias type?

          • hemisooner says:

            I agree with coach K. He got to top speed very fast and didn’t lose any speed while cutting. The punt return against OSU showed he had speed

          • Drew says:

            Fair enough. To me though, his speed was never really his defining skill, while I’ve heard it is for Westbrook. Still psyched to see him play regardless.

          • hemisooner says:

            I think his toughness was his best skill. When Shep went down, we had no one to scare the D and it really affected our offense. This year will be a lot different.

          • Coach K says:

            Drew have you watched DeDe’s film from last year. Watch his gate and ability to cut full speed.

            The other thing that makes me thing of Jalen is that he makes heal contact when he runs. That makes them almost sink when they run. This makes them look very much alike.

            I don’t think of Juaqin because even though he was a great WR, he also ran in the 4.5’s often. 4.44 to 4.55 doesn’t seem like much but it is almost 2 steps for some guys.

            I don’t disagree with your thoughtso n DeDe. However the first thing people talked about with Jalen was Speed and quickness. That is why he was so good in the open field.

            Can’t be wrong with either because these are just opinions. Yours could be right too.

          • Drew says:

            Yeah I watched it. I mean, I definitely see where you’re coming from, I just think Westbrook’s acceleration lets him run differently than Saunders. Saunders is a smooth runner, whereas Westbrook is like a jet. And after watching Tex’s video, I agree with the Clayton comparison.

          • Coach K says:

            I don’t know about the acceleration part. That was the best part of Saunders and why he gets separation.

            DeDe is fast and his film looks soooo much like Saunders to me.

            Nobody wrong though, just opinions.

          • Drew says:

            Fair enough, part of why I love this site. In the end, he’s his own player, and one that I am very excited to see come this fall. Calling it now: barring injuries, him and Shep will both be biletnikoff finalists this year. (Wow, imagine if DGB had decided to stay . . . that wouldn’t even be fair).

          • Coach K says:

            I think they have huge years and compliment each other well. I am hoping the QBs will have easy reads and won’t have to force the ball in anywhere because they get great separation.

          • Coach K says:

            Drew watch these and see if you understand what I mean by running style more than anything.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk1U3tD9v7U

            https://rivals.yahoo.com/video/college-football/SPRING-HD-Dede-Westbrook-1133841

          • EasTex says:

            Thanks for the Dede video, his videos on hudl are listed as private.
            Who he reminds me of the most, when comparing to previous Sooner WRs, is Mark Clayton with his ability to cut/stop and accelerate quickly.
            He has a different body type, but the abilities are similar to me.
            https://youtu.be/vAbSqGBOfs0

          • Coach K says:

            yeah I can see that. Mark wasn’t a heal contact guy. I am a multi sport coach and one of them is track so I see running and biomechanics before other things.

            I do see what you are saying though

          • EasTex says:

            Always appreciate your input.

          • Coach K says:

            Yeah but you have to realize Jalen ran 4.44 at the combine and Igleias ran 4.54.

            Watch them run and see if Saunders and Westbrook don’t have the same type of gate. Iglesias is a bigger body and decent not great speed.

          • Boom says:

            Jalen’s quickness & speed will make a great slot receiver in the pros. He was light on his feet which enabled him to make the quick cuts without losing a step. Miss that guy.

          • Drew says:

            Hmm, I saw a 4.44 for iglesias as well.

          • Drew says:

            Yeah, the wikipedia article I found said otherwise, but well, it’s wikipedia, so your number is probably right.

          • Coach K says:

            I had to look it up to know so it’s not like I was certain whether or not one was faster than the other haha.

          • Boom says:

            I’m surprised he ran a in the 4.5’s. Iglesias was a possession WR at best and he wasn’t even tall. Those guys don’t hang around the NFL long. Good college player.

          • Drew says:

            I recently watched a bunch of 07/08 highlight reals, and I felt bad for kind of forgetting about him, so I decided to give him a shout out. I do remember missing him when he was gone though.

        • soonermusic says:

          “The key is he gives the QB two good go to guys not just Shep …etc..” Well said, Coach K, for all the reasons you mentioned.

    • Zack says:

      I think we’re going to find out how special westbrook is this year.

  • Fear The Magic says:

    I find it interesting and how Charlie Strong is so quick to run off kids that dont adhere 10000% to his rules or even kids that dont show the right kind of attitude but here he has Lampkin, a kid who clearly wants out and they wont give him his release because its clear that he wants to come to OU.
    Kind of hypocritical if you ask me.

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      Taco tech and Texass made from the same pile of horse dodo.

    • Doobie74OU says:

      I think if it was a matter of the kid just changing his mind or being mad about the DL coach leaving I would have no problem with them making Lampkin honor his commitment. But since it appears obvious that he won’t qualify to enter school and he wants to pursue other opportunities Texas (One of the Largest States with a coach named Strong) is coming off pretty Small and Weak!

    • Stephen Dale says:

      Strong wouldn’t be the Texas coach if he wasn’t an expert in screwing over his players……….

      • OohRah Mama says:

        I have never seen or heard one iota of info that paints Charlie Strong’s character in a negative light.

  • Thegunnfather says:

    Look forward to reading every day. From the first order of business to the last comment. gear site, great followers. Thanks!

  • SamSooner says:

    Super K, thanks for the update.

  • Big Tiddays says:

    I’m not sure how well Lampkin will pan out. He’s given up on qualifying at UT and decides he wants to go to OU. Doesn’t remind me of someone who is a hard worker. We’ll see.

    • bjwalker82 says:

      thought he was dq’ed because he didn’t speak a foreign language.

    • SamSooner says:

      Big, I’m not ready to go there. It seems like he put some thought into it by weighing the risks. I agree with the path he’s taking. He, quite naturally, thinks he can contribute because he doesn’t want to go the JC route. I can respect that.

      Whether he a texsa commit or an OU commit, he’s still a person who needs support.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      My question is he using this foreign language req as an excuse to get away from UT and the DL coach he was upset that left(yeah Monty left too)

    • Malicong says:

      From what I have read, that is not true. Understoof that he had been trying very hard to met the requirements but really struggles with Spanish. That is coming from a pro-Texas writer so it may not be the whole truth, but I also don’t think it is a “I don’t want to try” deal either.

      • BleedCrimson says:

        My understanding was that he had to pass 3 spanish classes in sequence. Must pass each course, test out, then start the next, all over the summer break. My opinion is he realized he could not get there after struggling with the first coarse. (Plus, wasn’t it his Momma wanted him at OU?)

      • blaster1371 says:

        No se atende el texassiso

    • DCinAZ says:

      Thats not how I read the situation. He’s been miffed at Texas since their DL coach lied to his face telling him he would be there, and then bailed after national signing day.

    • Doobie74OU says:

      Yeah I don’t think anybody knows the full reason or story on why he can’t qualify but there has been a lot of talk about a learning disability. I have a niece that is probable one of the smartest people I know, but she has dyslexia. Her brain sees letters backwards and misarranged sometimes. I can see how if he was struggling with something like this it would be extremely difficult to try and pick up a different language especially one were the entire sentence structure is different like Spanish. I hope the kid gets a chance wherever he ends up!

      • OohRah Mama says:

        Speculation on (and hatred from) some tu sites focus on the fact that OU classes begin 8/24 and last day to enroll is 8/28, while tu’s classes start 8/26 and last day to enroll is 8/31. The burnt oranges anticipate that Lampkin will be strung along till it’s too late for him to enroll in Norman, perhaps forcing him to take those Spanish courses in Austin – or to screw him out of a year of eligibility just for spite. They’re actually expending quite a lot of energy trying to plot the worst-outcome scenario for the kid. Typical behavior from that fan base…

  • thill says:

    Has Draper signed yet?

  • rainydaze114 says:

    If I were a betting man, I still think the Knight gets the first snaps of the 2015 season. Not saying he’ll stay there, but I think he’ll get the first bid.

    • SoonerOracle737 says:

      In all the years past, I would agree with you. But I think Stoops will let Riley choose who he wants regardless of experience. Stoops will defer to Riley on this one – IMHO. The downside of new offense not succeeding are too great.

      • ccmosaic says:

        SoonerOracle, I fully agree with you on this one. I years past Knight would have gotten the nod simply based on experience. This year though our hopes are riding on a revamped O. Riley will make the call. I honestly have no idea who will win. I do think all of them will be better this year due to the system being QB friendly and another year of experience. I am looking forward to some exciting football.

      • SamSooner says:

        Hope for the best. Expect the worst. That leaves room for disappointment.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      I’m so sure it’ll be Mayfield, I’d bet cash money on it.

  • DCinAZ says:

    Appreciate the QB info. That’s the one thing I’ve noticed in the updates that seemed to be missing was news on QB development which made me nervous. If we don’t have better QB play than we had last season, all those additional weapons we now have won’t matter.

    • ToatsMcGoats says:

      I read on LT that:

      “• Baker Mayfield and Cody Thomas are tearing it up from what i have been told. Everyone loves TK9 on the team but he has taken more of a Coaching/Leader like role, which I think he will excel at. This offense doesn’t fit what the tools TK9 have, which is very unfortunate.”

      The also mentioned John Humphrey was improving as well.

      • DCinAZ says:

        I read that too but it’s from somebody “with an inside source” so I take it with a grain of salt.

      • hOUligan says:

        Good stuff. Again, don’t care who it is, know we have to have something to talk about…but am sure Riley will have ‘his’ guy in there for the Zips. And it might be a little ‘vanilla’ to start but after 3-4 games, one of these guys is going to turn our heads and in a good way, not in revulsion. My ‘money is on Mayfield with Cody charging hard on the outside.

  • Jeff says:

    Who are the newbies?

  • cjsooner says:

    Does it seem like to anyone else that Lampkin was forced into signing with UT by those around him (maybe coach or parents). He never seemed like a guy who was all in there and with this it doesn’t seem like that was ever where he wanted to go.

    • SamSooner says:

      I just remember there was suppose to be a surprise on signing day and Lampkin’s name was tossed out there.

  • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

    [While playing with ketchup and mustard packages]:

    “Mayfield takes the snap. It’s a pass. He looks left. Looks right. He throws up the middle. It’s caught by Dede Westbrook! He’s at the 40. The 30. The 20. Got one man to beat. Goodness sakes alive what a block from Perine! Touchdown, Westbrook! Touchdown, Boomer Sooner!”

    “This just in, folks. The recipient of the Perine block can now feel his legs. Medical staff is telling us he should be okay.”

  • Bob Edwards says:

    Some things to keep in mind in the QB discussion:

    1) In general players get better the more they play. It is unfair to any of the young men to say they will be no better than they were last year.

    2) Only one of the three has a full season’s worth of games under his belt and those were spread over two years because of injuries.

    3) BS fired the QB coach because of poor QB development and/or shoddy play calling (did we ever have a timeout left by the end of a half?)

    4) BS fired the WR coach because of poor WR development and/or poor recruiting. Hard to look good as a QB when your receivers are running poor routes.

    Now some of these may not be the cause of poor QB play, and we may really not have anyone to be a decent QB, but let’s give the young men the benefit of the doubt until they prove otherwise. They can get better. They all are Sooners and they clearly want to play for OU.

    • EasTex says:

      Logic? Reason?
      Just who do you think you are addressing?
      http://media1.giphy.com/media/fwcGzF1l2cILe/200.gif

    • SoonerOracle737 says:

      Yeah, just like Tiger Woods is going to get better by practicing more….bwwwahhhahahaaaaa! JK…

      • SoonerOracle737 says:

        A less sarcastic way to say this is that everyone has a ceiling on abilities. I think I can say we have one QB on roster that has hit his proverbial ceiling (IMHO). The others – not yet. But I hope they all can extend their ceilings and we all enjoy watching them do so.

      • RocketCitySooner says:

        You think Tiger became a great golfer by not practicing?

        • SoonerOracle737 says:

          Not really what I am saying. I am saying in a round-about way that Tiger has peaked. He hit his ceiling – some might say floor now. We all have one, a ceiling that is. And I think we have one QB on roster who has hit it too. But I would love to be wrong. JMHO.

          • Krys Allen says:

            No way that any of the QB’s have hit their ceiling… for one Im not sure if any of them are even old enough to buy a beer… and like was said before, our QB development was piss poor previously. I expect them all to show improvement this year and next.

          • RocketCitySooner says:

            Thanks. Understand now.

      • JD says:

        He needs to hit the red light district again if he ever wants to win another major

      • ccmosaic says:

        Actually, Tiger simply needs to re-hire his original coach. 2 of the top 5 players on tour now are suing his old coach. Tiger needs to swallow his pride and stop trying to coach himself.

    • ToatsMcGoats says:

      It’s amazing how much I miss Landry Jones! I can’t imagine how good of a QB he would have been if he would have had some real development.

      • Boom says:

        His arm, yes, his decision making, no. If he had time, look out. If he was pressured, look for an interception. Having difficulty in the pros due to this issue.

        • ToatsMcGoats says:

          Oh, I remember it well. I just wonder how effective he would have been if he would have had the running game we have now. It would have taken so much pressure off of him.

          • Boom says:

            All Championships are won under pressure and I just don’t think he had the “it” factor. He didn’t thrive under pressure, he tensed up. Good guy but not the man for championships.

          • ToatsMcGoats says:

            I just keep going back the the 2010 Big 12 championship game. Dude looked like a world beater. Then Heuple went upstairs and Jones’ development seriously dropped off. I think, had he had the type of instruction on the sidelines as he did in 2010 throughout his career, and he had an effective running game we would be looking at Jones in a totally different light.

          • BleedCrimson says:

            I have often thought the same thing. Curious how the smallest things can make a big difference in a persons life.

      • Krys Allen says:

        Boo, as lacking as the QB play has been don’t forget that LJ had a penchant for WTF was that type plays. Sure he could dink and dunk with the best of them, but if we are going to play the missing game then I miss Sam.

        • ToatsMcGoats says:

          I think you guys are missing the point here…I wasn’t the biggest Landry Jones fan, that’s what so amazing about how much I miss him…we don’t even have a Landry Jones type of talent nowadays…

    • BOZsayshello says:

      Bob…Excellent points and #3 almost cost me my marriage. There was way too much foul language spewed with the time out issue lol!!!

    • John Garner says:

      Spot on Bob! May I add JH’s failure to use TK according to his skills. That may have been an edict from Bob’s deck given our depth at QB and an injury to TK would have truly hurt our offense. The point being when TK kept the ball in a zone read, we were dangerous. When he wasn’t allowed to, we were predictable and easily defended.

  • BleedCrimson says:

    G-Day minus 74
    Was looking for a picture of Ed Rowland, but could not find one.
    Any other suggestions for 74?

  • John Garner says:

    I agree but only if Baker’s experience allows him to make the right reads as Riley will surround him with a ton of skill and speed.

  • blaster1371 says:

    Is anyone else surprised that someone not Lampkin was given an ID card saying he was and took those Spanish tests for him?

  • BleedCrimson says:

    It is 8:40pm and Texsa still sucks

  • BleedCrimson says:

    On a 74 theme, here is one of the greatest ever to wear the uniform.
    https://youtu.be/-lbuUTz2IUY

  • Stephen says:

    Important update: OU has made the Top 10 for stud WR (I’ve been hyping him, so I feel like he must of heard me somewhere came to his senses to add us) Tyrie Cleveland. You’re welcome, Internet.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    A long 74 days…it’s Kish’s fault.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    A long 74 days…it’s Kish’s fault.

  • rphokc says:

    okla hs players and offers so far……..http://newsok.com/article/5429545?slideout=1

  • FACT: Trevor Knight leads off every 7 on 7 session with the first team. Otherwise good report!