Trench Warfare – What It Boiled Down To…

A pick in the endzone, a blocked extra point, two missed field goals, and aaaaa pick siiiiixxxx for a teeeeeee deeeeee.  That’s how bad my frustrations got on Saturday.  I had tweeted out that I needed to go to the airport to pick up the inlaws during the game, my father in law wanted deep dish Chicago pizza, so we went to Giordano’s right outside of Chicago’s midway airport.  Of all the pizza joints in all the world….they happened to have the game on in mine.  So naturally like all veteran husbands when you notice a game on and see it’s the game you want to see, you non-chalantly position yourself to entertain the natives and be able to watch the game at the same time.  So as I’m sitting there I’m watching Samaje Perine take 5 carries on that last drive and go 42 yards, I’m thinkin, we got this.  Grind it out, get in the redzone, run some clock and put it away.  It’s 31-30, and I’m more concerned whether Bob’s gonna go for two after we score to put it out to seven.  I’m thinkin’ that Mike’s D had given up some stuff today but no way they go back down on us and score.  Right before the play I have shown below, Perine had just exploded through the A gap for a 9 yard gain, and I’m thinkin we’re in great shape.

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As we lined up in 1st and goal I immediately knew what was happening.  K-State stacked the box with 8 and played man coverage against 3 wide with no safety help anywhere.  Snyder was basically saying that you’re not going to run it on us and score, but if you take what I’m giving you with man on the outside, I get the ball back with 5:45 to score and two timeouts.  So what I think really happened was that we wanted to run clock here and Stoops was concerned with the D.  To validate my case I want you to look at Sterling Shepard on the top of the picture.  He’s getting a 5 yard cushion and has one on one coverage.  Kid set the school record with 15 catches and almost 200 yards, so with no safety help and play action it would be easy to pop up and hit a slant.  Freeze the linebacker play side right with the p/a, and I’m actually telling my father in law that there’s no way we run here.

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Man was I wrong.  In the earlier picture we’re outnumbered by two in the box, and as you guessed it, two unblocked linebackers end up stuffing Samaje.  Pretend this is play is play action and see the space the linebackers created up top if Sterling wanted to run a slant?  Or even Michiah Quick to the bottom who I also circled.  I used to hate this when I played.  There’s six of us blocking against 8.  Not character or physicality.  In any language 8-6 equals two.  Two guys are unblocked and we get stuffed.  All bs aside, my buddy Rich likes to say all the time…”we aren’t building rockets.”

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So as we get the ball for 2nd and goal, it’s even more conventional in terms of the defensive set.  6 down linemen for K-State and two linebackers.  Smart linebackers know they’re running unabated to the ballcarrier here.  The down linemen are going to tie up the 5 o linemen and follow the fullback to the football.  And again, Bill Snyder doesn’t flinch.  It’s cover zero again, but the one on one most open is to Durron Neal at the bottom, whom we trusted in a big spot on the last drive.  Play action off of this is how he got so wide open, and what brought us to 31-30.

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But again, we run right into the teeth of the Wildcat defense.  Part of me thinks this may have been a busted play too, so I circled Dmitri Flowers out right.  If we’re running why is he going out for a pass?  Something was amiss on this play, and you have to think that if he stays in and helps block, we may have a shot at it even with being outnumbered so badly.  2nd down is normally your play action down anyway, and had we thrown it to him on a sprint-out, I think we could have scored here too.

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3rd time’s a charm right?  Look at the box?  We told K-State we were running right  on this play before the snap too.  How I knew it was that we motioned Durron Neal into the old school wing left to keep backside crashers from coming in.  But in doing that, we bring another player into the box as well.  So now we’re outnumbered 8 to 10, and you still have man outside on Sterling, or if you get creative, send Durron back out left on a play action with a late release.

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But we’ll have none of that.  This is just one of those straight up called give’s we have all come to love so much.   At the mesh point, the end man on the line is on Perine.  Without that player around his legs, no doubt Samaje is more than physical enough to get up in the crease between Shead and Daryl for the score.  You gotta think about Trevor pulling the ball here too because Sterling’s guy is crashing hard and Sterling actually looks like he’s boxing him out in basketball.

To me these were the three plays that could have salvaged the game for us.  Had we got six here, I gotta believe that we go for two.  We would have only been up 36-31 with an extra point, and nothing was automatic on Saturday in the kicking game.  What happened in my opinion is that when we got the ball with over 5 minutes left at 1st and goal, the coaches wanted to run clock.  They were more worried about what Snyder was going to do with the ball back and took it for granted that we would roll on in.  Before these three plays they were right.  We were seeing 7 man boxes, and that’s what was allowing us to Samaje to go for 42 on 5 carries.  What it boiled down to was that Bill Snyder said that we’re going to stop you from running the ball to score, and if you throw it stops the clock.  Score a quick one and Snyder gets the ball back with 5 minutes and an open playbook.  What it boiled down to was Snyder played chicken with us and won.  He dictated the terms of this last drive to us, and stuff like this is what makes him such a great coach.

72 Comments

  • Jared William Reininger says:

    JY, another great TW. I was telling someone after the game, on that last play, we were not only outnumbered to start, we brought durron neal in and made the box count 10……I am sorry it had me scratching my head so hard they could have put me in a dandruff shampoo commercial.

  • EasTex says:

    I have too admit, I was watching the clock on this last possession thinking we had the lead and what was Snyder going to do.

    After the game, I went out for pizza. Didn’t go down well, even though it tasted great.

  • CS says:

    Man, I don’t know how you stomach to watch this again. We really appreciate that you do. I was out, following the score on gamecast, 1st goal on 4, I thought, “thank god, we got this one”, and my gamecast repeatedly showed same field position, I was madly refreshing it and then it showed “missed field goal”, at which time my heart dropped into my stomach and my wife realized from my face that something horrible had happened 🙁 What a way to clutch defeat from jaws of victory.

    First time I am looking at these plays and play calls, makes me feel gut-wrenched. Every year we have this game where we are left wondering what could have been. I don’t know why the luck has not shined on the good guys of late. Oh well, I atleast hope that we learn from this, and beat up the guys in the rest of our schedule (I am looking at your Baylor).

    • hOUligan says:

      You make your own luck mostly and OUr OC has done us no favors in over-thinking it. But on this one I said the same thing. Bob wants to run clock and make Snyder use his TOs and he has an AA never misses FG kicker standing beside him. Seemingly sound, ‘play-it-safe’ strategy that back-fired. Play to win. Get the 6 and make Snyder go the full length of the field and do the same. Thanks, JY. Stronger stomach than I have. Can barely look at your pics.

      • CS says:

        IMO, you always need some luck to go your way. If you look at last few championship games, you could argue Auburn, ND etc, even us in 2008 (That Crabtree play that helped us w/o which we never get in) all had some luck going their way in getting in.
        But maybe it is just my dumb theory.

  • Krys Allen says:

    I look at these plays over and over and still cannot fathom why we run into a stacked box like that 3 times in a row. Even the commentators were talking about how “K-state never subs guys on the defensive line, but now look they are bringing in the big boys for the goal line stand”. So you have Perine who was tired, and obviously banged up. Running into a 10 man HEAVY box, where at least 2 guys had fresh legs…. I still get mad just thinking about it.
    I really feel like the coaches owe these kids an apology this year because they are not putting them in a position to win.

  • Jeremy Phillips says:

    The playcalling philosophy is baffling.. We give Trevor a run/pass option from our own 1… but not from inside the opponents 5…

  • BR says:

    Thats it, I’ve had ecough! lol… I nominate and vote for JY as OU’s offensive coordinator…

  • Sooner_Cat34 says:

    Running the “zone read” on the 3rd & 1 play slows down the running back even more allowing the crashing safety to get to Perine’s legs. If you want to just hand if off from the pistol, just run dives. It gets the RB running down hill without hesitation that you get when running the “zone-read”.

  • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

    If OU scores a TD quickly, then they would have to be worried about a methodical drive that uses up a lot of the clock AND giving up a TD.

    KSU’s scoring drives were about three minutes, on average.

    Another way to think about this, the approach I’d take, is to score a TD as quickly as possible. This forces KSU to execute a methodical drive to burn as much clock as possible AND score a TD. The reason is because OU would only have to drive into FG range on the ensuing possession.

    If OU scores with five minutes left on the clock, then that forces KSU to execute a 5-minute drive to score. They hadn’t done anything close to that all game. Two out of their three 75-yard scoring drives were 2:35 or less. These two were explosive, not methodical. One of them was methodical. That one lasted four minutes.

    If a team has to execute a methodical drive that uses as much clock as possible, then what do those plays look like?

    • CS says:

      I don’t think JH did this much thinking man. When he didn’t think if 10 is greater than 8, do you think he thought all this? lol

      • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

        I’d like to know the thought process.

        While I’m not sure about the win probability for one approach versus another it seems that if OU could put KSU in a dilemma by forcing them to score a TD but not too fast that this would be more difficult for KSU.

        • CS says:

          Ya I would agree that that would have been harder for KSU to control clock while scoring. We might have had some time left to get a drive in to get a field goal or TD (depending).

  • SoonerFan11 says:

    I was screaming at the TV to go back to Shepard on a slant…. Now I know from looking at this breakdown I wasn’t to crazy…. They couldn’t guard him……

  • Sooner_Cat34 says:

    After reviewing this again I am more convinced that Knight would be a good QB in the straight Pistol offense while mixing some under center stuff. Get rid of the “zone read” and allow him to roll out, bootleg and scramble when needed while protecting him too. This would also get the backs running down hill and you could run stretch plays with Ross.

  • rphokc says:

    thxs for the pics and analysis but it’s depressing even looking at them……two games we lose due, in part, ’cause we can’t pick up a yard on more than one try……..

  • Exiled In Ohio says:

    Rip and Bell out. And now I see that perhaps Flowers busted his assignment. Rip probably doesn’t bust. Like someone said below, sometimes it just takes a little luck, and we got none at the end there.

  • Sooner Ray says:

    I will never understand how any coach at a major University can not see when the offense is badly out numbered. The casual fan can see this as the game is being played then JY just blows it up for everyone to see it in stop motion.

    • boomersooner says:

      What woulda been cool was send Neal in motion all the way to give us trips I believe. That empties that side of the field. You fake the inside run, and run naked to that side or pull to try to chip anybody that might stay home. Should be a cake walk

      • Sooner Ray says:

        The little things we could do to pull people out of the box or leave them in there and beat them on the edge are limitless, I’m wearing a game day helmet the rest of the year to prevent head trauma.

  • WilliamJack says:

    I have no idea if if would make any difference but maybe we put Heupel back on the sidelines.

  • cheezyq says:

    So basically what you’re saying is that Snyder tried to force Stoops’ hand, and for whatever reason – be it ego, stubbornness, or overthinking – we decided instead to aim the gun at our own foot and pull the trigger. Sounds about right.

  • DCinAZ says:

    Maybe this staff’s obsession with burning clock is why they get all their timeouts out of the way early.

  • Cush Creekmont says:

    My gripe with this short yardage set of plays is that Stoops mentioned (whined) that Rip and Bell were not available. IF one is going to power run and not disguise it anyway, use TWO spare guards rather than Bell and a Freshman TE. The total in the box would be less important than the total and the MASS at the point of the run.

  • Rene Goupillaud says:

    Thanks for doing the 3rd and 1 that I asked for. I was pretty sure we were outnumbered in the box. The obvious play out of that formation was to slide Durron out to the left with play action to freeze KSU.

    I just couldn’t believe the call with the game on the line, no Bell and no Rip. I know Josh calls this play earlier in a game and it often fails. But to do it with the game on the line in unfathomable.

    Bottom line, this just isn’t smart football. Space is the friend of offense. We shrink the space and get outnumbered. Dumb, really dumb. Worst of all Snyder knew Josh’s tendency. He knew Perine was coming inside.

    On the second play, perhaps the design was to have a Flowers pull a linebacker away from the point of attack.

    • JY says:

      Yeah no problem. If we wanna go jumbo bring in nila or savage, plus farniok if you’re short tight ends. We have o line depth out the ace and don’t use it

  • Rene Goupillaud says:

    How much time is on the clock doesn’t matter if you don’t score. Scoring must be the objective, not clock burning.

    Yes, Honeycutt is a great kicker, BUT, he’d missed 2 in a row, with the second miss worse than the first. The trend was a concern. Any golfer knows that a shank or a low draw can be with you for awhile. His first miss was a draw. His second was a low draw. The third was a low hook. Clearly, he was trying to fight through it which is why it got worse. Every golfer knows the feeling. Swinging a leg isn’t really that different from swinging a club.

    I couldn’t watch it. I knew the odds of a miss were probably north of 75% based on my experience as a decent golfer who’s dealt with shanks and low hooks.

    • soonermusic says:

      He had only missed one field goal, not sure why you’d say 2 in a row.. He made one field goal and then missed one. That was it. The extra point was a defender allowed to turn sideways and get easily through the line for a block.

      • Rene Goupillaud says:

        The extra point was closer than the final field goal and he pull hooked it.

      • Rene Goupillaud says:

        By the way, I was right, he missed it. That is the point you conveniently overlooked.

        • soonermusic says:

          I’m not sure what you mean “conveniently overlooked.” Are you saying that Britz didn’t block the field goal attempt?

  • soonermusic says:

    JY excellent break down. I would make the case that Heuple wasn’t wrong to make the call that he did, and in fact probably should have made it. The measuring stick of “physicality” maybe needs to be different here. If 8 men in the box holds your run game to 1 yard per play or even 2, your run game is out of business, –except in this situation. If you look at the plays you highlighted, the first play gains 2 yards. The second play is “stuffed,” but still gains a generous yard. Look at the down marker line. If Perine gets less than half of that, even, he’s in. As you pointed out, the edge was not sufficiently sealed, a defender was able to grab his legs. But as you said, without that player around his legs, Perine scores.

    You can always look back at the play afterwards when it doesn’t work and say there’s another call that would have. But just like the defender got to Perine’s legs on that one, someone could have tipped a pass, or made a play on the qb keep, leaving us on the wing instead of in the middle for a chip shot field goal. If either of those happened, everyone would be screaming at Heupel for “going away from what works.” And wondering why he didn’t just run Perine 3 times in a row, when it had been so successful the whole drive.

    I have no problem with your alternate calls, the fan in me really wanted to see play action on 2nd down, or a qb keeper, even though I realize our two best edge sealers were out. But I also have no problem with what Heupel called, because they should have been able to gain one foot. All the evidence was in favor of it. They had more than done so on every other play, even against 8 in the box.

    • OUknowitscomin says:

      Must admit, this gives me 2nd thought on initial diagnosis. If anything, one could argue it’s the right call but wrong formation. Should have lined up in pistol, rotate into an I….then a quick handoff. That handoff just took too long IMO, gave defender time to get there

      • Don Carmichael says:

        I completely agree with it being the right call in the wrong formation. If the defense is almost certain you’re going to run, why not run out of a running formation?

        • soonermusic says:

          This is the running formation that we use. It’s the same formation that they successfully ran with on all the other plays. It’s not the formation that stopped the play.

          • Don Carmichael says:

            There is no legitimate threat of quick run up the middle with Knight in the pistol in a goal line situation. He’s not going to run it up the middle and it takes longer for the RB to get to the line of scrimmage than if the QB is under center. This year we’ve had more success than in previous years using the pistol to run in short yardage situations because our offensive line is better at run-blocking, but that doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be better to have Knight under center.

          • OUknowitscomin says:

            That’s basically my point, whether it’s worked in past, we didn’t have Rip/Bell to seal edges & strength. That’s where I really got to say we have to recognize that (of course) & change it up on goal line. I’m not an expert, but seem logical to me

          • soonermusic says:

            There’s no indication that it would have been better. Earlier in the game OU had 3rd down and 1 yard to go, and put Knight under center to hand off to Perine. Got stuffed. Forced one of our only punts of the game. If that happened on the goal line, the second guess would be why did he change formations when the regular one would have been better.

          • SoonerSpock says:

            Perine got stuffed not because Knight was under center but because we did not run a quick hitter. Knight handed off to Perine 2-1/2 yards deep in the back field as he was standing virtually stationary. A quick hitter would have occurred a yard behind the line of scrimmage with Perine having momentum.

          • soonermusic says:

            I never said or thought that the play was stuffed because Knight was under center. I see nothing wrong with having him under center. But I would say that having the entire line get pushed back a yard immediately at the snap and having several d-linemen two yards deep in the backfield would have blown up that play no matter where you give Perine the ball.

    • OUknowitscomin says:

      But also really thought it was a no brainer with Rip & Bell out that we needed something different with everything on line. It’s one thing to be successful with rushing all the way down field when pass is a threat, when entire team is tight formation…..it’s just not the same.

      • soonermusic says:

        I think Rip and Bell’s absence were likely to be felt no matter what the play was and may have ruled out some choices. Totally agree that it’s different moving down the field, but the plays in question, are the ones right there, with a 2 player disadvantage in the box, knowing we’re running, and they still gained us well over what we needed.

  • roygbell says:

    This may sound like criticism of you but it isn’t. You just did a great job of of explaining and showing what every person who watched that game saw. Each time we lined up I counted the guys in the KSU jerseys at the LOS and said to my wife, how can six guys block eight in the box and on the next two plays as well.

    I love these coaches, but for the life of me, I can figure out what they think they are doing. My old high school coach always used to tell us we were going to find the spots where we can put more hats than they can and that is where we are going. The OU coaches seem to look for the spots where the opposition has more hats than we do and intentionally go there.

    I hate to say this, but we deserved to lose this game just because of what I think is stupid and silly offensive scheming and play selection. We are never going to get out of this mode until we find some coaches who really understand what they are doing.

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    I think the fact that you can run the clock, and a FG should have won the game, was reason enough to keep it on the ground. Would I liked to have seen a different run play called? Perhaps. But like was mentioned elsewhere, even without the numbers in the box, had guys blocked properly, we probably score a TD.

    Had JH called a pass play, and JH thrown a pick, not a one of you criticizing the run plays would have said passing was the right call there.

    • SoonerSpock says:

      Fan criticism is always based on results. The fans excessively moaned about OU throwing the ball to Kewaun Jones on the LSU goal line when we had be successful running the ball getting inside the five yard line. Then the moan and groan about not throwing the ball against Florida when were successfully running the ball in the same scenario. Seldom is it about play calling most generally it is about execution.

      Fans are only interested in what works after the fact. Not what should have worked in the scheme to win the game.

  • soonermusic says:

    Like everyone, I am heartbroken that we lost this game. Humble apologies for the extreme length on this one…

    After reviewing the game to check my initial impressions, here’s what I come away with.

    1. Heupel called a great game. This is not even a close call, and I’ll detail the plays that folks are criticizing later. There were points in the second half where I was marveling at how brilliant his play calling looks when the kids execute like they are capable, and they were doing a great job of just that. That’s apparently all it takes. They moved down the field with ease throughout the game.

    2. Trevor had a great game as well. Other than the one terrible decision, he was terrific. Precise passes, both long and short, from the pocket and on the move, many clutch throws and runs, play saving adjustments, good reads, excellent patience, and it’s not just what I saw, the stats support it also. Over 300 yards, 3 td’s, over 80% completion. An excellent performance.

    The calls:

    Pick 6. Some folks are under the mistaken impression that Heupel called a pass to the flat here. We now know that’s not what the call was. It was a run pass option and was only a pass if the coverage was soft, and the out route was open. Otherwise it’s a handoff. It was obvious at the snap, if not before, that the d back was inching up. Trevor made a poor decision to throw the ball. The play call was fine. When passes are open in the flat, even near our goal line, they have worked well. This one should not have been thrown.

    Duron interception. This is a no brainer. “Pull out all the stops.” Second down, so if it’s not open, run the ball, live to play another down. Nothing wrong with taking a shot in that situation. I like the aggression in that spot very much. They teach the back to keep and run the ball in that situation, if the pass isn’t open, and he should have done so.

    3rd and goal.

    See my other post on this one.

    The blame game:

    Why did we lose?

    Trevor played great. He made a terrible decision on the pick 6, but he came right back out and got the points back in TWO plays. That’s what great players do. They respond.

    Heupel called a great game. Drive after drive we moved down the field, only two punts the entire game, and neither of those were due to poor play calling. When we needed an answering drive, he dialed one up. Without seriously great play calling and execution, we’re not even in the game against a well coached and tenacious K-State defense.

    Duron didn’t have a great day, but he made some good and important plays. His poor decision on the pass was bad, but if that’s the only mistake in the game, we still win.

    The defense gave up some plays, but overall they probably played well enough for us to win. On the other hand, if they have one better series or even a couple of critical plays, we win.

    The O-line came through for much of the game, but didn’t at the end when we really needed it, and blew the extra point.

    We left 7 points on the field in the kicking game. Two inexplicable misses by Hunnicutt and an inexcusable breakdown of the O-line on the extra point block. I feel bad for Hunnicutt. Are you gonna go back and not put him in there at the end, because he missed one earlier? Of course not. I, for one, will not throw Hunnicutt under the bus for this. He has been lights out, and without the other mistakes we still could have won.

    In addition to everything else Sterling missed getting a foot in on a fade by less than 6 inches; and one of K-State’s td’s could easily have been called back for the center blocking downfield. They did call him for it on a similar play later. There was another potential td play called by Heupel right before the half, but the receiver ran the wrong way. In one of his many great plays,Trevor saved it by pulling it down and passing to Quick over the middle to set up the field goal try.

    The loss is too bad, because in a lot of respects play was much improved on both sides of the ball, and we dominated in many ways. IMHO, this team is much better than many folks are giving them credit for right now.

    But, in the final analysis we made one too many mistakes to win.

    The ball bounces in funny ways and there may yet be some things to play for this year.

    • OUknowitscomin says:

      Wow, excellent post Music. I agree completely on Heupel calling a great game. Regardless of pick6 being on TK, I would argue to not put TK in that position in first place that deep. For that reason I think it was a bad call. The last set of downs, especially 3rd down, I cannot agree with that being a good call at all. So IMO he called a great (& should be good enough) game with exception of 2plays IMO. Every OC in nation will call 2 bad plays per game….at least..just from odds of D plays called. I also agree this team is MUCH better than giving credit for now.
      This is why it frustrates me to see so many calling for CBS head (on other boards), they are just completely irrational.

      • soonermusic says:

        They have run very similar pass run options in the shadow of our goal successfully and even did so in this game. So it should be ok to put Trevor in that position. I’m not even sure the position on the field is that relevant. As executed, that one’s a pick 6 even if we’re on the 50. 🙁

        • OUknowitscomin says:

          Fair about location not mattering for it being a pick 6, but that area of field naturally has a lot of pressure associated with it, on all players. A slant perhaps, but not passing from opposite hash. IMHO..that’s just asking for trouble when you don’t have to. Regardless of if it’s worked before.

          • soonermusic says:

            I agree with you about pressure, but I honestly think they run that play a lot, and Trevor reads it correctly. Based upon his previous success with it, it shouldn’t be a hard play for him.

            The immediate preceding play, the backs were off and he makes the correct read to throw to Shep.

            Against WVA on our own 5 yard line, same play, but Trevor sees the defenders are up on the receivers and hands off to Perine for a 10 yard gain.

            The difference here is that the d-back starts out away from the receiver, which I guess fooled Trevor, I dunno, but you see him sneak up two separate steps before the snap and you see him moving forward at the snap. Trevor’s used to making that read. No reason for him to miss. But he did.

    • boomersooner says:

      Your one thought about the illegal down field kinda reminds me of last yr at baylor. They got away with the pick and kept running it until they finally got called for it very late in that one. Just pisses you off to know that some sort of cheating or getting away with something on your big plays because you scheme em that way is just so tired. Brian Kelly can say it til he’s blue in the face but that wr was blocking from jump street but of course you’re not gonna throw a player under the bus or give your little secret away.

      Good post

      • soonermusic says:

        thanks…

        • boomersooner says:

          Haha. And I just saw that k said the same thing in his coverage article. Great minds I guess

      • Super Keith says:

        Very true boomersooner.

        If I were Kelly, I wouldn’t have said anything about the penalty (if I wanted to continue to run those plays). He’s lucky he wasn’t called for it earlier in the game, when they scored using a similar pick.

        I think it’s up to the opposing team’s coach to really alert the officials before/during the game. Sending an email to the conference office won’t cut it, they need a reminder before and during the game.

        The KSU TD (with Gronkowski) was horribly obvious. The left guard was literally 4 yards down field before the pass is thrown. I have no idea what the official was looking at, or how they missed it.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      Good post and I agree that most of this game went well for us. I’ve heard many people complain about the reverse pass but I thought it was a good call, just not executed very well. Everyone knows the pass shouldn’t have been thrown but those plays keep the defense loose which benefits your other plays. I don’t put any blame on the kicker, even though he “should” have made them, we lost the game in other areas.

    • Super Keith says:

      Just one correction…on the pick 6, the corner did a good job of selling his plan…he stayed soft until right at the snap, then he sold out to jump it. It was a high risk move on his part, because if he guesses wrong, it’s a TD going the other way.

      That still doesn’t make Trevor’s mistake okay, as he was going to Neal before he took the snap. I believe he’s past that for the most part, and even the most veteran guys make mistakes. That’s what it was.

      I’m not in complete agreement with you on the Neal interception. TK had been throwing the ball well on that drive, and at that point in the game there was really no reason to take it out of his hands. I just think that was a bad call, but not the end of the world. All in all, I think it was one of Heupel’s best games from a play calling perspective.

      • soonermusic says:

        Absolutely right about the corner being tricky. He lines up backed off, but when you watch it, he takes a couple of sneaky shuffle steps forward pre-snap,so he’s much closer by the time T gets the ball. I think you’re right that that contributed to the misread.

  • OUknowitscomin says:

    I was keeping an eye on the clock time worrying it was too much. Thanks for explaining (makes sense) why they wanted to keep running it. Honestly I thought it was a formality that we would get it in the EZ with 1st & goal at 4. Rushing on 1st 2 downs makes a lot of sense, but the call on 3rd down was horrible. I knew it the second they lined up. Like so many times this year, I was screaming at TV as the field was wide open for a TK PULL!

  • gibs4750 says:

    I would love to see OU run a lot of what the Seattle Seahawks run, a lot of zones, play action, and bootlegs. They still run some pistol and zone read, and Blake Bell and Dimitri flowers are 2 athletic H-back types that would be perfect in motion blocking and off play action. Trevor would be great off the bootleg and I think he was 14/15 off play action against K-State. There are plenty of other reasons that support OU moving to this type of system, but these are just a couple easy ones that pop into my mind.

  • Hotrod33 says:

    I was thinking doing some play action or TK doing a bootleg play to one of the ends. Even the announcers said that they brought in two more dlineman to stuff the run. Right there, Snyder was all in stopping the run. On the third down play you could have a wr on the left side and bring him in motion to the right and when the ball is snapped you could seal the edge off and run a little option play that way. Did Heupel or any coaches Kstate brought in extra linemen just to do that. Sometimes I wonder what Heupel is looking at. It was just a overall bad game for the whole team. I really hope they look in the mirror and realize they need to change some things to make this team better.

  • Super Keith says:

    Excellent JY. You’re buddy Rich sounds like a good guy (anyone that uses that line is solid in my book). My grandpa used to say “We’re not doing rocket surgery here” in those kinds of situations.