I haven’t had a chance to go back and watch the whole game. Still not sure I can stomach it. But after watching it the first time through and then looking at the first defensive series I really feel that what I’ll likely find is a lot of the defensive issues repeated themselves. I decided to break down most of the first series so that we could look at some of the issues. After watching the first series and remembering my first viewing of the entire game, I feel pretty certain this loss wasn’t about talent. There are going to be defenses that have a lot of success against TCU’s offense. And to be honest I’m more convinced that my preview wasn’t far off. The inside run game wasn’t there for TCU. The slant routes and the stop routes were there because OU game them to TCU. Boykin did throw some errant passes. The defensive line did not get whipped. I don’t believe TCU is some offensive juggernaut now that some want to make them out to be. OU just didn’t play well and I think there are some fundamental technique issues that have to be rectified.
Consider this. OU gave up more passing yards to TCU than Minnesota. The Oklahoma defense showed it’s ability to shut TCU down in the second half but the slow defensive start that we saw in the West Virginia game showed up again in the TCU game. This time, however, a poor decision by Knight in the second half and some questionable play calling in the third quarter and the offense finished the job that the defense started.
OU should not have lost this game.
Anyhow, let’s get into this first drive. And by the way the images are just pictures I took with my phone on my movie screen so forgive the odd angles and occasional shadow of me.
On the first defensive play we see a problem that is going to reoccur and is something that has to be remedied. Julian Wilson is playing more than 10 yards off his man at the snap and he’s playing to the boundary! The only reason this wasn’t an easy completion was because Boykin way over threw his wide receiver but the receiver was wide open. How could he not be?
Below OU is going to show their press look to the boundary and play off to the field. This is pretty common but wow, more than 10 yards off? I guess there is no desire to incorporate this corner in the run game whatsoever or contest the route. The play ends up being a run to the boundary.
Below you see the play unfold. I have one main issue here and it’s something that has to get fixed. OU just doesn’t consistently wrap up and they don’t drive up and through the tackle. You regularly see OU defenders either miss a tackle or get dragged by a ball carrier. That’s what happens here. Tapper has Boykin dead to right and he makes contact but Boykin bounces off him. No way that should happen. Evans is the next man there and though contact is made by Tapper behind the LOS and contact by Evans is made just after, Boykin is still going to pick up 5 yards. This just isn’t acceptable for a championship defense. Boykin should have been slammed to the ground so hard and a rally to the ball should have yielded repeated hits on Boykin to make him fear the front.
This next play is just a bust by either the player(s) and perhaps by scheme. TCU is going to start in a 2×2 formation. The receiver with the 1 marked on him motions across the formation. I marked him “1” because he is going to go all the way outside changing the formation to a 3×1 (3 WRs on one side and 1 WR to the other side) and the inside WR on the field side will become the number 3 receiver. Oklahoma is in man coverage so Steven Parker is trying to get across the field to cover his WR. He seems to assume (as I would as an outside observer) that each man defender will shift over and he will pick up the #3 receiver on the inside release. Clearly that wasn’t the case or at least the 2 outside defenders didn’t get the memo if that was the case because Parker hesitates when he sees the #3 receiver take the inside release and further loses leverage on the number 1 receiver. This was just too easy for TCU and had nothing to do with OU’s physical talent or ability. It becomes a pass outside to the number 1 receiver and he gets up field in a hurry.
Below is a designed QB run. The guard and the tackle are going to scoop Chuka. The tackle makes the first contact and then gets up field immediately to find Dom. Dom reads possible option so he’s going to play outside as he likely expects Chuka and Geneo to play this inside forcing Boykin wide. The running back is going to come out and chip/block Geneo just enough to leave some room in the C gap for Boykin. However Dom is going to beat that tackle coming up to the next level and have a shot at bringing Boykin down. I’ve drawn a line to where I think Ahmad Thomas is (unfortunately I can’t see him) and where he should immediately be heading as he reads this play. I’ve drawn the arrow too far over if he reads QB run so ignore how far the arrow goes (that would be his positioning on a spread option). The point really is to indicate that he should be triggering.
Again, notice below that Dom does a nice job of not allowing the tackle to wall him off and has a shot at Boykin near the LOS. Unfortunately he can’t bring him down.
Now it’s Ahmad Thomas’ turn. He misses too and Boykin picks up a lot of yards.
This next play was something I alluded to in my preview. The mistake I made was in assuming that either OU would play the routes tighter or Boykin would miss. On this particular play the ball was actually tipped at the LOS but Sanchez (or the technique he is taught) takes himself so out of this play from jump it doesn’t matter. The outside receiver is going to run a slant as I’ve indicated below. At this particular moment Sanchez is playing off 8 or 9 yards. By the time the ball is snapped he’s actually going to be playing off 10 or 11 yards! You’re just giving them a slant (and plenty of other routes) at the snap. Why?
They’re in man coverage here and while Sanchez isn’t going to play a full open shuffle technique (butt completely to the sideline) he’s going to play this shuffle at a 45 degree angle. Some teams will play shuffle because they don’t trust the speed of their corners and some teams will play it because they read the QBs all the way through the route. Whether Sanchez is reading the QBs eyes and then coming back to the WR or not he reads the three step drop and shuffles accordingly (3 shuffles). The problem is you’re doing it while beginning your shuffle 10 yards off the WR. What’s the point of the technique then? OU needs to start coaching proper closed technique and really focusing on the details and if they’re going to play shuffle then they’ve got to play it up tighter.
As you can see, this slant goes for a ton of yards and Sanchez isn’t even remotely in the vicinity to make the play. Baylor would have housed it. What is also odd to me is the fact that they’re playing this technique in this part of the field. The TD line is only 35 yards away. Simply put they just made this way too easy on Boykin and the WR. Free release, tons of cushion…easy.
Below TCU is in the red zone and look at the cushion Sanchez is giving the WR to the field. Even Julian is playing off to the boundary. On a side note, look at Sanchez’s stance. Back too high. Feet aren’t properly spread or balanced. Look at Julian…nice stance except the fore of his front foot appears to be off the ground.
What’s going to ensue here is the reason I believe Sanchez still isn’t healthy. The WR is going to run a simple stop route and will be short of the first down by about 3 yards. Sanchez is there easily and all he has to do is immediately hit the receiver and he stops the play and brings up a 4th and 3. He would have lit the receiver up because the errant throw forces the WR to leave his feet. Instead he lazily tries to play the ball and plays it really poorly. It was played so poorly that it almost looked like he wasn’t trying (and I know he was). The image below really doesn’t show just how bad an angle Sanchez takes on the ball. You have to go back and watch it live. Again, I think Sanchez is in a lot of pain and is concerned about even the smallest amount of contact.
This next play was an option. Striker immediately gets into the backfield. I don’t know how OU teaches the option defense here but I would play this outside in so Striker would take Boykin and allow the safety and LB time to get wide and pick up the pitch man. Instead OU seems to play it inside out (unless Striker made a mistake) and Striker takes the pitch man leaving Boykin to run inside. The safety and the LB are unable to stone Boykin and it’s a TD.
What do I take from this first series? That for the most part OU wasn’t getting beat up in the trenches or outgunned on the edges. To me it just looks like a conservative defensive design that makes things easy for TCU and execution that was lacking. The best defenses are the ones that make people earn things. I feel like when you don’t pressure the QB and you don’t put your players in a position to compete on the outside then you’re making things too easy on the offense and you’re also setting the wrong tone for your defense. I’ll never forget the way Alabama pressured Golson in the national championship game and never allowed him to set his feet or get any forward momentum. They played tight coverage and harassed them all night.
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Great notes K.
It appeared we went back to a bend but dont break venebles type of style on D. Was almost disgusting to watch. Im totally with you, Pressure, Pressure, Pressure. ESPECIALLY when youre the more talented team. Loved the harassing, attacking defense we thought we were finally playing again… Hopefully, we get back to that real soon.
Looked to me like we were playing to “protect” our season, rather than out to “win” our season, on both sides of ball. Thats a dangerous mistake to make. Championship teams have to remain aggressive, at ALL times.
I can not agree more on this. We got one of the best young running backs in the country and we pass about 9 times in a row in the late 3rd and 4th quarters. Don’t understand?
The order of first half seemed to be busted coverage in secondary and poor tackling as a group. Second half they corrected some of it but the offenses call changed to throwing incomplete passes and burning timeouts. We couldnt play one half as a complete team, actually forget half, a quarter.
Thank you for taking pictures of what I have been thinking the last 12 hours. Mike brought back something with him that I love him for. Intensity. But some of the game plans he has thrown out there the last 3 years have made me think what are you doing! We have got to get up and jam WR. We have a really good front 7. But when you can throw a slant in 2 seconds because the corners are lined up 7 yards off the ball and bailing out, it completely kills any pass rush we could possibly generate. I kept thinking throughout the game that Baylor would run a ton of slants on us and some comeback routes, where as OSU would send everyone but one person deep and that one person would just stand there on the LOS and catch the ball and waltz 8 yards before we even got close to him. We have to change this!
Actually after seeing the first half again, I got this q about if Mike wanted them to throw those slants? Because the D was coached to put hands up constantly but we were not lucky when two or three tipped passes actually ended up with them instead of us.
Even if you are wanting them to throw the slant you don’t play 8-9 yards off the ball. But the way we have tackled in the back end with everyone, I would think that was not their plan. But I could be worng as well.
The biggest problem I have with that thought process, if that is what they tried, is that Boykin is not a guy that will consistently beat you deep. Regardless of how we made him look yesterday, he is a guy that can get the ball moved around to the wr on easy passes. We couldn’t get him out of his rhythm early, and we never did by jamming guys up.
Get a great pass rush but its negated cause your guys can’t cover for 4 seconds to give you time to get there. You are exactly right. You have to jam and mix it up to allow your rush or your blitz the time it needs and if somebody wants to force it in there then so be it
As the game went along, it reminded me of the OU/Bama game. Only this time, we played the Bama role and TCU played the aggressive OU role. We played on our heels instead of our toes. Also, it seemed like we took Striker out of the game plan.
Boykin isn’t a long ball or vertical thrower but as you said K, our CBs gave them big cushions like he was one.
I watched the game again and just thought TCU got every break. As I watched it again, I started counting all the missed opportunities for not only first downs but TD’s. It was tuff to add all of those up and it was in the double digits. Interesting, I didn’t see Parker in there much after that series. The shine has worn off of Sanchez.
Thanks for the breakdown.
Very interested to know why we couldnt get any pressure at all, was TCUs OLine play that much better or did they out scheme us good? Also what was the deal with those ultra wide splits? Looked like they were punting the ball.
A good part of that has to do with what he referenced. When we play 8 yards off the ball and our corners bail out, they can throw the ball quick. It doesn’t matter how fast a jump Striker can get when they are throwing the ball on the third step of a 3 step drop to a wide open WR.
TCU used huge splits on the line that slowed the outside blitz down. Not to mention Boykin was getting rid of the ball super fast.
That can’t have been much of a factor, line up Evans or Striker inside one of those 4 yard wide splits, they are fast enough to get thru. Also, I only think I saw the wide splits 3-5 times all game… There was a whole lot of blitz that could have happened the rest of the time they had the ball.
They weren’t trying to get up field. Mike has shown a tendency to play running QBs this way and it just doesn’t work. It works here and there but over the long haul it just because a slow death.
Yup it was slow death certainly. It would be 5-6 sec every time before he got someone on his face.
I’d send 4-6 constantly with a lot of overload blitzes from the field
They are trying to save the “big play”. If our Offense is playing well a few big plays can be overcome. This defense is built for speed and aggression. If They aren’t allowed to be fast and aggressive you are taking away the tools. Send the house, If we get beat that’s fine, at least we put the fear in em!
I hate this approach. It could have worked against Boykin if: 1) our secondary had played better, and b) he didn’t have an above-average day. But there is no way it could work against Petty. If we don’t pressure him early and often, it will be over by halftime.
Want to add a couple things:
1. If Parker was supposed to go all the way over on that motion play then in my opinion that is a mistake by the defensive staff. By design/alignment you’re going to lose that battle and I think Parkers intuition was correct even if it may not have been what OU was asking.
2. There are ways to play press man without playing hard press so that you can still defend the deep pass.
I was at the game. After that third down play was over, Mike lit into on person–Steven Parker. I, of course, do not know what the call was or who was supposed to cover the man in motion, but it sure looked like it was Parker.
Contrast that with later in the game when we busted coverage on the long TD, Mike brought the entire secondary in for a huddle. From my vantage point, he was not ripping any one person but having a discussion with all of them. I would have expected some of the same if there was a multi-person mix up on that first third down conversion of the game.
I think it’s about that time to give someone else some carries in place of Ross. He’s not producing and we need someone reliable to take the load off Perine. Do you think that could happen? This is assuming Ford would still be out
I agree. The staff seems to agree as well. They clearly feared he wouldn’t produce because the refused to play him for most of the 4th quarter. He doesn’t seem to have the vision of an RB. It might be too early to say but I’m not sure you can risk carries this season trying to find out and the threat of a one hitter quitter every once in a while isn’t enough to take carries away from Samaje. Ross does seem to do a nice job picking up the blitzes and was 1 for 2 when I saw him block upfield from Knight.
We miss Clay. He’d have gotten the yard on 4th and 1. Ross needs to be out in space, not in close quarters.
This game reminded me of a combo of the 2011 okie lite game and the 2013 Baylol game. Offense couldn’t do jack in either one, but the defense in the 2011 Bedlam game was laughable, especially after ISU laid out the blueprint on how to beat lil’ bro and Vulnerables went the exact opposite way. The 7-10 yd cushion (and then back peddling at the snap) is ridiculous…not sure what they’re trying to accomplish with that.
I’ll be watching the rest of the games, but with little expectation. Gets frustrating when someone as ignorant in football x’s and o’s can see the glaring problems and they’re never fixed…
Third down. I’m sure I’m in the minority, but I don’t mind some of the “bend don’t break” mentality. I thought the D did a decent job forcing third downs. But particularly in the 1st half, we just didn’t step up on 3rd down. Some of it was the corners playing off, but a lot of it was just bad execution. The Sanchez missed tackle (or non-attempted tackle) on the first series was really awful; it was the first of many times I said “yes!” on 3rd down when it looked like the D was going to get a stop, only to have them miss multiple tackles and give up the 1st down.
But, hey … sometimes the bear gets you. Credit to TCU.
Totally agree with the issues on how our secondary played this game but if just a couple of plays turn out different we are today looking forward to beating texas and being 6-0. Like hows the game go if that Boykin fumble in the end zone gets covered by OU or if Hayes comes up with that tipped ball and takes it to the house. It just wasn’t our day. The thing that concerns me the most is Knights play. He really hasn’t played a complete game yet this year and if you take away the sugar bowl he is mediocre at best. I think if he completes 50 percent of his second half passes we win that game yesterday.
The defensive game plan and calls in the first half give me real pause as to Mike’s understanding of defending this style of offense. I’m confused because he says the defense was tooled to stop this style offense. We have bigger CB to play press and in this game and the WV we played off giving up easy yardage. Mike Stoops is is becoming an enigma in my opinion. Frustrating that the average fans see things that Mike doesn’t. How is that? My opinion is that Bob and Mike’s game plans are designed to not lose instead of playing to win resulting in conservative game plans that the opposing team can gain easy yardage. The busts in coverage is a head scratcher too. I’m just not sure Mike is the strategist that the TCU head coach is. Their defense out played OU with lesser talent because of sound schemes and better tackling. Just goes to show that with good talent, coaching and schemes 3 stars can play with 4-5 star players. Bob needs to be more in control of the in-game strategy as both coordinators went away from our strengths. It was like watching Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. This coaching staff is confusing and frustrating.
I am frustrated by my crashed dvr, and hoping that the game gets posted on youtube sometime today, so I can look at it. Otherwise I won’t be able to see it until too late to dive into the fray, here. 🙂
My initial opinion, watching the game, though was that having the defense on the field for 50 snaps during the first half is a recipe for disaster. Plenty of issues on both sides of the ball caused this.
A couple of bonehead penalties and a couple of bad call penalties on top of it, killing drives completely stymied momentum and contributed as well. In a close game these are huge. Also saw three or four interceptions dropped that could have helped the outcome.
More comments after I’ve seen the replay, if I ever get to see it:-).
There’s one thing I can’t agree with in this analysis. It’s the quality of Sanchez as a player. I am at the point that I don’t he’s that great. I’d give him a break if it was one thing, but it’s not. It’s everything at this point. At this point, I can only think of one play HE has made that wasn’t a QB mistake. He flat-out gets used up by any receiver with decent size and a bit of shake. He can’t cover them. He can’t tackle them. Injured or not, it’s true. The one big play he almost made yesterday, just didn’t work out, at no fault of his. He jumped the stop route, but a tipped pass caused an awkward ball flight that was tough to make a play on. Had the ball not been tipped, Sanchez has a pick six. One other point, he’s being put in a terrible position by a scheme issue that everybody has squawked over now. Our CBs look bad getting beat for 8-13 yds over and over again. If the thought by Mike and the other coaches is to keep the guys in front, don’t get beat deep and make the tackles, then they are idiots. If they haven’t noticed how terrible our tackling is, then they are too stupid to be coaches. Our tackling cannot be relied upon to tackle a guy after 5 yds or less, because our tackling is atroicious, especially by our secondary, outside of Hayes and Wilson. None of them can tackle. Period. BTW, these are points from somebody who is not a negative, gloomer type fan. I am typically very positive and optimistic on our chances all the time. I’m just tired of watching the same errors and mistakes that don’t seem to be getting fixed.
Vargo, I’ve never believed that Sanchez was an elite player but he’s doing things that look so rough that I can’t help but conclude he’s hurting so bad he’s trying to avoid contact at all costs.
Couple of observations. In the photo it appears Sanchez has his right arm crossed in front of him as if he never intended to ‘wrap up’ but deliver another of his shoulder taps. Do we know which shoulder is injured? And isn’t Mike’s special forte DBs and coverage? Do we not have CBs capable of playing press? Are none of our current CBs able to jam, flip their hips, turn and run with a receiver? I just don’t rip on 19 year old kids/individuals. If Zac is hurt, get Thomas in because it appears to be seriously affecting his ability to execute.
If we were so high on J. Thomas why isn’t he subbing more for Sanchez? Why waste a year of eligibility? On one series Zack had 2 15 yard penalties and basically was personally responsible for a touchdown. If you look at it, thats the difference of the game. He is playing with no confidence in my opinion. What about Austin? Neither of them play much. Any thoughts?
If we were so high on J. Thomas why isn’t he subbing more for Sanchez? Why waste a year of eligibility? On one series Zack had 2 15 yard penalties and basically was personally responsible for a touchdown. If you look at it, thats the difference of the game. He is playing with no confidence in my opinion. What about Austin? Neither of them play much. Any thoughts?
I’m interested to know, are they playing off 8-10 yards all of the time to “disguise” the coverage? I have to believe that there is SOME method behind the madness…
If you’re going to play off then you’d show press man to disguise and then back out at the last minute. Playing that far off tells the QB…”you’re not going over the top” but we will give you the underneath stuff. I personally think it has to do with coach Mike Stoops desire to protect his secondary. In his first year he did it by protecting his corners with safeties and giving up the run. After TAMU and WVU ran on OU he realized he can’t do that so perhaps this is his new way of protecting his corners. But if you keep giving things to do the defense, eventually you’ll give them the game.
Thanks K. Makes sense
If he wants to protect his corners, then he needs better safety play. The 3 youngsters are the ones he seems to be protecting. I feel that Sanchez and Wilson are pretty much on islands.
Yes. The bottom line was OU made it too easy to pick up 4-5 yds at a time & that made tip balls & deflections too hard to come up with in the first half. Every jump ball or “lucky” play was made by TCU bc of cushion,
From the stands it actually felt like same ole Brent V schemes of letting them have whatever in the middle of the 20s & try to shut them down when they were pinned by goal lines… Old way of playing texas tech & Baylor vs RG3 that got us beat
Agree on the return to Venable-land
My problem is knock the crap out of the guy in the zone read whether he hands it off or not. Make him pay!
JZack sanchez should not have played for the last month team’s are going after him just that simple
Can’t disagree with you. Let him rest and trust your depth.
the defense had some chances to make plays and until the final 2 drives they just didn’t do it.. Q dropped an Int. earilier in the game and Dominique had a pick 6 go right threw his hands just after we took the lead… TCU didn’t drop the pick 6 they were given… even as horrible as Trevor played in the 2nd half… if Dom makes that play, we are up 2 scores and TCU is in trouble… anyway, moving on to Texas.. they are still suck!
Goods points, all.
The one thing that bothers me the most with the defense is our corners play too far off on the wr’s. I noticed that the first game we played against LaTech and they continue to do that. One of two things; 1) the corners are not as fast as we think and don’t want to get beat or 2) they are told to play that far off. Also, I think the coaching staff is asking Knight to do stuff that he is uncomfortable doing. For example, in the Sugar Bowl they got him out of the pocket and made some good throws and I believe they were playing to his strengths in that game. This season it is like what we saw with our passing qb’s. Super K, I agree with you on the offensive play calling in the second half all together, it was atrocious. How do you throw 3 straight times with plenty of time on the clock instead of run Perine or sometime type of misdirection to get some yardage. I give it up to TCU for what they did but OU squandered that game away especially the last 5 minutes when the defense got the ball back.
I’ve never understood why our corners play well off the receiver and have for years. I’d prefer that we challenge receivers.
I’d be interested in your assessment of Thomas, Byrd and Parker’s play.
Switzer’s wishbone stretched defenses in the early years, then defenses adjusted to take away the pitch while a linebacker spied the Qb. It forced us to adjust the offense and recruit a different player. From a group of Mildren, Crosswhite, Pruitt and Wylie, we went to Lott, Sims, Peacock and King with more runs between the tackles. Finally, it ended with Thompson, Carr, Collins and Stafford dependent on Carr and Thompson being critical in executing the base play to set up the pitch game.
So I actually thought the mistake was Alexander’s not Striker. I’d much rather have Dom hitting Boykin than Sanchez tackling their running back.
Question for you, K, about what appears to be the coverage on the first play. Judging by what I saw on subsequent plays, and on that one as well, it looks like Wilson is playing where he is because he only covers the guy if he goes deep. It looked to me like the receiver, short, is supposed to be Grissom’s responsibility. Wilson will cover either of the guys who go deep.
Compare what happens at the top of the screen on subsequent 1st and 10; game clock 13:22 (7:35 into the fox broadcast on youtube). I’m probably all wet on this, but would appreciate your input. Thanks.