Review | OU vs. Houston

I finally had a chance to re-watch the Oklahoma vs. Houston game yesterday. Here are a few thoughts…

Secondary

– The story of the secondary was the cornerback position. Austin was out-athleted. Oklahoma wanted to press in order to take away the easy throws but to do so you need to have played some press-technique (it also helps to have size). The technique just isn’t there. Cobb doesn’t have the technique either but it’s excusable because he’s young. Additionally, Cobb is much faster than Austin so even if he opens the gate early, he can make up for it to some degree. Having said that, Cobb was stacked on multiple occasions as well.

– I liked Cobb’s personal foul. I would’ve told him to play smart but I like the aggression. He’s young, he’s going to make those mistakes. It’s obvious he’s got some dog in him.

– Austin’s second PI call was legit. He was grabbing in the spring game and unfortunately they weren’t calling it so perhaps he thought it was ok. The first one didn’t look like much was there but you could argue it was an arm bar.

– What I’d do? Rotate them till you find a competent cornerback. I know there are only so many reps to go around but you need someone that can, to some degree, competently defend the deep ball. Oklahoma did not remotely face the best WRs they’ll face this year. Based on what I saw Sunday night, if they don’t shore that spot up, Texas WR John Burt is going to eat someone alive.

– Defending the deep ball is partly about speed and partly about technique. Jordan Thomas doesn’t have the best speed at that position on the team. However, you’ll notice he does a good job of “catching” receivers and/or staying square as long as possible when he’s aligned tight and widening the WR.

– Dakota took some heat on the post where he appeared to be beaten (ball was poorly thrown but would’ve been a TD). I believe that was on Ahmad Thomas though. Austin should’ve had inside help.

– The cornerback position really tied Mike Stoops’ hands. People were upset when he only brought three on third down but let me break down the issue so everyone will understand he didn’t have much choice.

Third and long, Mike brings three…Ward eventually finds someone open.

Third and long, Mike brings three again but changes the coverage…again, Ward eventually finds someone open.

Next third and long, Mike brings five and drops a spy…Ward throws the ball instantly and the db is beat for a conversion.

Next third and long, Mike compromises and brings four and drops a spy…Ward throws the ball instantly and the db is beat for a conversion.

Not much more you can ask from Mike. I think the defensive plan was sound. The cornerback spot is just going to have to be shored up. Again, I’d rotate everyone till I found someone who can play it. That rotation would include a look at Will Johnson. I know there are people who believe he would be the best outside CB and he’s played the position. Unfortunately he’s added some weight which I suspect will slow him down.

Quarterback/Wide Receivers

– It’s difficult to see the routes on the television but I have a hard time believing that OU couldn’t throw slants/stop routes against Houston’s off looks. My guess is those routes were there and Baker didn’t take them.

– Did anyone see a deep ball thrown on the outside? Wide receivers don’t normally get huge separation in college. If you’re waiting for a wide receiver to blow by a receiver or be wide open, you’re going to wait a while. Mayfield has to throw the ball and let those guys run under it or go up and make a play. When he was desperate he did exactly that with Mark Andrews. Andrews was covered but Mayfield put the ball out there for him and Mark made the play for him. You’re not going to develop WRs if you don’t let them compete on the field.

– Everyone I speak to that attends practice believes AD Miller is a monster. I don’t know if he is but I’m interested in finding out. Put him on the field and throw him the ball.

– Dede Westbrook is scary sudden. Gotta find more and more ways to get him in space.

– I have a hard time believing that if OU gets AD Miller, Dahu Green (did not travel dude to concussion protocol), Dede Westbrook and Mark Andrews on the field at the same time they won’t be able to mess some teams up.

Run Game/Offensive Plan

– JY and I spoke about this quite a bit. Oklahoma didn’t run downhill much. What little running they did was primarily lateral. You didn’t see a lot of power, etc.

– As I went back and watched, it’s pretty clear that the staff believed that this was a good way to attack Houston’s downhill attacking style defense. In theory it certainly made sense. However, I think it’s probably overthinking it a bit. Again, I get the thinking of trying to slow their attack by making them defend the lateral run game and making their secondary hit Joe and Samaje (one of them hit Samaje like a boss). But you’re also asking your offensive line to be more athletic than they are. Let the big boys lean on someone.

– Mixon is a straight dog.

– The right guard struggled quite a bit. The other guys played well but it seemed like there was always someone making an error at a critical time. Bowser slipping inside on Orlando Brown to cause the fumble comes to mind…though Brown seemed to play well in general, that error was costly.

Defense Line

– I thought the defensive line played very well. Walker is of course the star. But you can’t discount Romar’s motor. He isn’t the most talented guy but he plays with a lot of heart and makes things difficult for the OL on the inside.

– Dimon looked better than I’ve seen him look.

– Again, this was the strength of OUs defense. Kudos to Thibs. I’ll be interested in seeing how they do when they face better and better offensive line talent.

– I like that they’ve got a nice rotation going in there.

– I hope OU finds a way to get the most out of Overton and eventually Lampkin. It’s unfortunate that a guy like Lampkin, who looks physically better than any other DL on the team, hasn’t gotten things figured out just yet. It’s also unfortunate that the most sudden NG the Sooners have can’t find his way on the field.

Linebackers

– It’s pretty clear in my estimation that Obo was pulled too early last year. Obo is physically more gifted than both Striker and Bond. Everyone seemed upset about his errors in the first half but his ability more than made up for it in my opinion. If Oklahoma would’ve let him play more last year, he would’ve gotten over the mental errors. And if he didn’t then at least you’d know. I know the coaches see these guys in practice everyday but at certain point people are going to start wondering where all the dogs are…

– I’d starve Jordan Evans a bit. Emmanuel Beal came in one play and read it so fast it looked like a run blitz (it wasn’t). You want a vicious dog, starve him a little. I’m not saying Beal should replace Evans based on one play. Evans should remain the guy. But nothing wrong with giving Beal a snack. If nothing else, it’ll light a fire under Evans. Right now, Evans just looks like a decent LB out there. I remember him as a young LB, flying around…really thought he would’ve developed into an all conference LB by now…and a vicious one at that. I have to believe all the weight they put on him doesn’t help.

– I’m hoping we get to see some Caleb Kelly and Kapri Doucet soon. Again, it’s not so much about Will Johnson but more about trying to make sure you’re having these guys compete and stay hungry. And also building depth.

– Don’t think I saw Bolton on the field at all.

General Rotation Thoughts

As a general note, Oklahoma is a 3-4 defense. Your linebackers needs to be extremely violent and athletic. No amount of weight is going to make your LB the same size as a lineman. The notion of piling weight on these guys just don’t register with me.

In general, I think the staff is going to have to relook at their desire to ensure that everyone is “ready” before they get on the field and figure out how to get some guys some snaps to get a little more competition going. We watched Zack Sanchez, for years, get eaten alive at times but the staff didn’t take him out because he “made plays”. Let some guys rotate in a little…let them take their lumps and everyone will start making more plays. OU didn’t lose because of Obo’s first half mental errors. The game was pretty much tied at half. But by keeping him in you got plays out of him in the second half that led to the defense getting off the field.

Last year when Tulsa native, Joshua Jacobs signed with Alabama I saw Sooner fans saying, “he’ll get buried on the depth chart”…”he’ll never see the field”. Well the irony is, he took snaps as a true freshman at Alabama, a place whose starting RB hasn’t gone lower than the 3rd round since Saban got there. Meanwhile, OU’s star freshman running back, who happens to be very very similar to Jacobs, still “isn’t quite ready”. In boxing we say, “a coach teaches you to box but you learn to fight in the ring”. So I’m not questioning what the coaches are seeing in practice. They see it everyday. And I’m not saying you take some of these young guys or backups and make them starters or even heavy contributors. I’m saying, aren’t there a few more guys that can take a few snaps? To…1) develop depth 2) keep the starters hungry and feeling that sense of competition 3) to keep more and more players engaged…etc.

Final Note

This team is definitely better than what they showed on Saturday. And they’re definitely better than Houston. A lot of things went wrong. But I think you’ll see things get better…

I think you’ll see Oklahoma commit to a downhill running attack more. I think you’ll see Mayfield distribute the ball. I think the emergence of Obo will give the Sooners two difference makers (Charles Walker being the other) on the front. They’re going to keep searching for a competent cornerback. They’ll need to find that soon. I think you’ll see the receiving threats emerge.

OU may have been overrated going into the season but I think they’re being severely underrated after the loss to Houston. This is still a good team if they want to be.

 

495 Comments

  • Birddawg says:

    Great stuff TFB.
    Thanks!

  • Birddawg says:

    John Burt is a burner.. if he catches consistently… top 2/3 WR in big 12

    • Super K says:

      He can fly. Foreman on the other side can as well. Now they’ve got a QB that can throw it.

      • SoonerfanTU says:

        And the freshman Duvernay(sp) that isn’t even playing yet. Track speed.

        • BackWhenOUBoysCabbagePatched says:

          Was thinking the same thing. If Burt and Foreman are wide on either side, Duvernay will be a major pain running the slot.

      • Indy_sooner says:

        IMO, Amanti is good, no question, but to me, does not have the “finesse” to make up for Buchele’s inaccuracies. Burt on the other hand does. Related note: I was MUCH more impressed with his brother. That kid is a beast and plays with a chip on his shoulder.

  • Birddawg says:

    TFB, is there possibility of moving Parker to CB and Haughton to Safety?

    • Super K says:

      I don’t think Parker would hold up out there.

      • Birddawg says:

        Those Dbs should be licking their chops in practice to get that start against ULM. Whoever has a nice week of practice and makes plays on ULM will get the nod against tOSU. The most anticipated non con home game since notre dame.

        • Ura Mazin says:

          It’s clear the schedule would have been more in favor of OU if ULM had been first up. But, at least there’s a creampuff before tOSU.

          • ALar03 says:

            I think it worked out better this way because playing against ulm lets your talent make up for deficiencies that you wouldnt be able to make up against Houston.. better to know now and figure it out a week before we see tosu

  • Ura Mazin says:

    Thanks for the review. I’m feeling much better now about Obo. And I appreciate a lot the chance to see that Mike Stoops WAS trying to make some adjustments, they just weren’t able to work without a corner who could cover.

  • Ura Mazin says:

    Thanks for the review. I’m feeling much better now about Obo. And I appreciate a lot the chance to see that Mike Stoops WAS trying to make some adjustments, they just weren’t able to work without a corner who could cover.

  • j l says:

    Did get quick get any reps on sat?

  • Canada_KB says:

    If the practice reports from the OP are true and Quick gets the start at CB….isn’t it a little weird he didn’t at least get a shot against Dunbar?

    • Super K says:

      We weren’t reporting that he will start. Only that he was with the first team yesterday. But Parrish was taking more reps last week than Quick so it wasn’t surprising that he was the first CB in after Austin.

  • Ura Mazin says:

    Thanks also for the reference to Jacobs getting p.t. at Bama. This year, more than ever it seems, freshmen are getting on the field at major programs and contributing. Let’s not get left out of that trend.

  • KJ1123 says:

    Good stuff K!
    I am not a fan of sending three and dropping the rest. Unless you have Julius Peppers and Reggie White rushing the passer, eventually someone will get open. Overall it seemed our LB play was “slow”. Lets get some of these guys in there who can RUN to the ball.

    • Super K says:

      Agree but again Mike tried to bring more and the back end was instantly beat. And agree, the LBs are “slow”.

      • brainpimp says:

        So you’re saying it’s better to die slow agonizing death than a quick one. Either way you’re just as dead. so the only way to have a chance is to risk it and try to get pressure.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      On a couple of those plays where we didn’t rush more than 3, one or more of those three had a play on the QB that should have been made (IMO), but wasn’t. Just b/c you rush three, doesn’t mean those three can’t make plays. But when they get in the backfield, they have to finish the play. Can’t go whiffing on the QB, which then does allow him all day to find a receiver.

  • Dallas Sooner says:

    Look at the KState game last year. It was right after the Texas loss and we started out with quick passes and got the ball into the playermaker’s (Shepard) hands. We scored really quick and went on to route KState. Given UH’s defense scheme and weak secondary, I cannot believe we didn’t take this same approach.

  • Jesse says:

    That catch AD Miller made in the 4th Q (the one he went down to the turf to catch) was impressive. And it’s really surprising he didn’t see more time in the game especially with all the hype the coaches gave him this offseason. It’s really confusing to me as a fan when you hear about guys like AD Miller and Mykel Jones basically all summer and the first game rolls around and one doesn’t play at all and the other barely sees action. I mean didn’t the coaches and even some players say Jones had at least a little shep in him?? Just makes zero sense.

    • Super K says:

      OU doesn’t let anyone on the field unless they really really trust them. That’s a good way to do things and build consistency. But it has a downside too. Sometimes your best players need time on the field to learn how to learn…if that makes sense.

      • bommer85 says:

        all players make mistakes in game, so why have it be older/slower/less physical/ less upside etc. players out there making mistakes instead of the BEST overall player. get the playmakers and as u put it”dogs” out there and let em loose. your comment makes perfect sense, the coaches decision on the other hand…not

      • CPSooner says:

        I remember a time in history, when a young Derrick Woods made his 2nd catch of the season…an impressive 20 yard snag to convert a 3rd and long in the Sugar Bowl. I thought at that moment, “Why the heck has he not played all year?!?!” Sometimes the coaching decisions on playing time baffles me still as it appears nothing has changed….they’re the coaches and probably know best, it’s just hard to understand their ways of thinking sometimes.

    • jmshake says:

      IMO, Jeffery Mead should not be playing. I’ve seen him look good as a blocker at times, but he’s had more than enough time in the program to show his worth, and if he isn’t catching passes, then why is he out there? Again, I know he can block, but if that’s all he can do let him gain 60 lbs and play TE. Let’s get A.D. out there and see what happens.

      • Jesse says:

        Well I actually know Jeff personally so I’m a little biased when I say I don’t think they use him in the right way.. Dude is 6’5 6’6 and I understand technique is really important at this level but in the red zone just throw him the ball up and away and let him go get it. But again we’re not always in the red zone so it doesn’t always work like that. But Miller needs to be out there 100% I agree with you there.

        • jmshake says:

          Right which is what K is saying too I think. Why did OU recruit these huge receivers if they won’t throw it and let the guys compete a little bit!

  • Defend Colfax says:

    Can we limit the Texas talk? Damn. Vomit. Keep that over there. We will get to that when it’s time.

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    Thanks K! Im thinking some discipline and poise are in order. Hit the bleachers guys

  • jonnyBgood says:

    I too feel better after reading this. As a fan it’s so easy to overreact and that is what I am seeing a lot of. This team held a pretty salty offense to 24 points and left many plays on the field. Bake got too cute and it cost him. This loss could be a blessing in disguise and I pray it’s just that. Hit it hard in practice this week. Give the young bucks some reps and kick the snot out of ULM. IF we can correct course and beat tOSU then look out. We have seen time and time again that wacky things happen throughout the season and we are only one game in so let’s pump the breaks a touch and take a deep breath. Like K said maybe we were a touch overrated but that doesn’t mean this team can’t wind up being special yet. I needed this today.

  • TSFFKAG says:

    Somehow Mayfield thought every pass should’ve been a TD bomb?

  • Maverick says:

    Great read as always K. Thanks for the insight.

    There was some talk before the game of “as long as we don’t beat ourselves”. Well on defense I’d say we just got beat (at least in the secondary) and on offense we definitely beat ourselves.

    One guy that really struggled was Tay Evans. Why not let Beal have a go at that spot?

    • Super K says:

      I didn’t pay a ton of attention to Tay but from what I recall he was decent. Again, neither of the Evans boys or Will Johnson lit the world on fire IMO. I’d create some healthy competition at those spots.

      • Maverick says:

        I’d disagree about Johnson, he was making a ton of plays. You didn’t notice Tay Evans because he wasn’t making any plays! Lol.

        Agree about competition though. Imo sometimes attitude trumps assignment sound. I’d rather a guy play with his hair on fire and be wrong 10% of the time, then a guy just kinda out there but only being wrong 5%.

        • KJ1123 says:

          I noticed Tay a couple of times playing out of position.

          • BackWhenOUBoysCabbagePatched says:

            On one play, it literally looked like he was lead blocking for Jordan, which created a huge cut-back lane.

        • Super K says:

          Will did well especially considering some of the changes they seemed to be trying to make but just don’t think he “lit the world on fire”. But yes he made some plays. I like his hustle

          • Boom says:

            He seems like a tweener trying to play a position that doesn’t come natural to him. He did play good but for that position, you need to have someone that is special.

  • Lincoln Hawk says:

    How does one get this write up to the coaching staff? Asking for a friend. Good stuff K.

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  • Bob Edwards says:

    It seems like under Bob, the starters play all the time, even when the game is getting out of hand. How many times have we seen the #1 QB in the game in the 4th with the game under control.
    It was different back in he Switzer days. There were days the radio anouncers would get confused because we had a second guy with the same number out playing (rosters were bigger in those days).
    We talk about “next man up” but that is a lot harder to do when the next man has never played in front of the crowd.

    • SoonerOracle737 says:

      I’ve heard Stoops say the starters have earned the right to play the whole game. His words, not mine.

      • Framoka says:

        Kinda silly to not get the young guys in there sort of like basketball. Give someone a blow and let the next guy come in and see what he can do. How are they going to learn?Disappointed, but hope for better things this week.

    • LBS says:

      always been my gripe too. It probably worked when everyone was running 50-60 plays, but not when all of our games are 80+. We need a legit 2 units ready to go. Kerry Cooks at least acknowledged this.

    • Ura Mazin says:

      His fear of mistakes by the young guys keep them off the field IMO.
      But, somehow other coaches around the country are working them in nicely. Frosh QB at texsa didn’t hurt his team and a redshirt frosh at FSU looked pretty impressive as well. And that’s at the position with more pressure than any other.
      As many others have noted, I agree that Stoops has become less of a risk taker. That’s fine if a conservative approach is working. But it seems to be keeping his teams from stepping up to that next level.

  • Drew Bernard says:

    Legitimate question: Does OU win if Zack Sanchez sticks around for his senior season?

    • TSFFKAG says:

      Correct Answer: Yes

    • j l says:

      ehh i dunno. Sanchez isnt exactly a big kid either, possible he would have gotten muscled around like austin did too.

    • Mizuno45 says:

      Maybe, although Zack Sanchez didn’t play offense which was a major issue as well

    • Krys Allen says:

      For your answer just go back and watch his game last year agains OSU… he got dominated by a bigger receiver. However if he was here, maybe we start JT on the right side of the field like he has played his entire career at OU and maybe he has more luck against Dunbar. Who knows for sure though

    • LBS says:

      I’d have to say yes only bc Sanchez would’ve been on Chance Allen while Thomas would’ve been on Dunbar and would have probably snagged a pick. Though….who knows legitimately. I’m sure Herman could’ve figured something similar to what Holgerson did, just have the WR shove Sanchez to the ground and hope for a no call.

  • TSFFKAG says:

    Maybe “sneaking in” a third string QB with a different jersey number for a “double pass” would make more sense? dunno.

  • KJ1123 says:

    Another note I saw Dimon on kick return. He definitely looked like he gained some weight.

    • Boom says:

      What I saw (outside of K’s comments) is guys carrying more weight than their body’s can take and still be quick. I could mention some guys but don’t need too. My point is we just need to recruit guys that carry the same weight with easy instead of trying to pack it on. my .02

      • KJ1123 says:

        Oh no for sure Dimon is one of them. I agree lets recruit guys already at 300.

        • Boom says:

          I’m just really interested in seeing how many of these young guys grow up in a week.

          • KJ1123 says:

            I think we’ll see a very different attitude. I just wish it was against someone ranked this week.

          • Rick says:

            Confidence builder?

          • KJ1123 says:

            Thats pretty much what it will be.

          • Rick says:

            At least we hope so.

          • Boom says:

            I didn’t post much but i did say a couple of things that I thought about on the way home from the game. First and most important, Stoops used to be Herman which is how he got the name big game bob. Stoops just seems to be hesitant about a lot of situations whereas he used to be aggressive and prepared. I’m not saying punt him, but if he has his swag back, then by golly show us.

  • Mizuno45 says:

    If things go well this Saturday, is there a chance we see Austin Kendall?

    • KJ1123 says:

      I think so, I would throw him in there middle of the third if all is going REALLY well.

      • Mizuno45 says:

        What if that happens, and we see a strong pocket passer opposed to a tendency to “over create”, QB controversy?

        • KJ1123 says:

          I like it! Sitr things up….BR already reporting that Bob criticized Baker on his performance. I think it was just honest.

          • Mizuno45 says:

            Me too, as we’re building a new culture which better recruits are already responding to, makes sense to be unafraid to mix things up and allow young players to replace veterans if necessary. Strong’s doing it at Texsa, albeit he’s trying to save his job, I think it would go a long way on many fronts.

          • Rick says:

            I hadn’t witnessed BS actually call a player out before, but he did with Bake yesterday. Not a snarky, demeaning way, just kinda matter of fact.

          • KJ1123 says:

            I like it, light a fire under these guys and not make excuses for them.

        • TSFFKAG says:

          But Kendall can’t do the “whip and nay-nay”!

  • Chris White says:

    “I have a hard time believing that if OU gets AD Miller, Dahu Green (did not travel dude to concussion protocol), Dede Westbrook and Mark Andrews on the field at the same time they won’t be able to mess some teams up.” 100% agree! Dahu was always able to get separation last year just couldn’t always haul it in so if his hands are more reliable he would have helped

  • rphokc says:

    sk………if I recall correctly, last yr/or yr before, you commented on they don’t even practice the press technique or do so very little……..we supposedly recruited dbs with that in mind, eg pjm…….so, is this still not a point of emphasis………thxs

  • Lincoln Hawk says:

    K, does Okudah realize he could come in and start immediately?

    • RDC212 says:

      With Bob, I’m not convinced of that.

      • Lincoln Hawk says:

        He would have as good a shot as any at this point.

      • Lane Gilstrap says:

        I’m not convinced either.

      • BackWhenOUBoysCabbagePatched says:

        Yeah, I was looking at Alabama this weekend. Bama played two frosh during real game play against USC (not with 3 mins left in the 4th Q), one of whom was Joshua Jacobs from Tulsa. I remember being disappointed when he did not sign with OU, but had he, I doubt that he would have played this weekend. Likewise, Michigan played two true frosh and would probably have played Kareem Walker, another true frosh, were he not suspended. Understand the Michigan game was a route, but even in routes we do not seem to use all of our talent top to bottom.

        • ALar03 says:

          I think we really missed on not getting Jacobs.. Im sure Abdul will be another great sooner, but i think adding jacobs in this offense would have been a homerun

        • Ura Mazin says:

          It’s hard to imagine that he would have gotten any carries if Perine and Mixon can’t even get theirs.

  • bommer85 says:

    only thing that made this terrible OU weekend worse was/is how things seem to be looking up for texsa not only on the field(much improved) but in recruiting, where they are looking to be at or near the top for multiple 5 stars and multiple Ou targets..lets right the ship boys

    Texas still sucks
    Boomer

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    Pretty much matches what I was saying about the defense since the game ended. Need to shore up that 2nd CB spot, but everything else is correctable, and probably wasn’t as bad as many OU fans thought against UH.

  • OUn8v says:

    Great read, K. Everything about it. Thanks!

  • Robert Boone says:

    I guarantee one thing. They will be practicing to defend the back shoulder throw.

    • RDC212 says:

      Not much you could do about those. They were NFL throws.

    • BackWhenOUBoysCabbagePatched says:

      I really hope so.

    • CrimsonNative says:

      If I recall correctly, this was one of Riley’s tendencies from when he was at ECU. I know, it has to do with poor QB play, but it also makes it near impossible for a corner to defend, which is why they did it. I haven’t seen that yet and the DB’s certainly don’t look like they’ve been exposed to it.

      • Rick says:

        It absolutely made a running QB with a mediocre arm look the real deal Saturday.

        • CrimsonNative says:

          Can you imagine what that game would have been like if Ward could throw like the guys we’ll soon face? They would have beat us so much worse.

          • Rick says:

            He basically had one throw, didn’t really even throw it well and torched us. For his receivers being nobodies, as athletic as they were I don’t expect them to stay nobodies.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      That is a tough play to defend. Most college QB’s can’t throw it consistently enough to hurt a team with it, but Houston sure did. Sometimes you just have to tip your cap to the other team.

  • bommer85 says:

    very interesting article on how Houston/Tom Herman prepared for this game

    http://www.campusrush.com/houston-cougars-football-beat-okalahoma-upset-1998298989.html

  • qwerty says:

    Jordan Parker? Antoine Stephens? Why don’t we hear about either of those guys as possibilities in the secondary?

  • Mizuno45 says:

    What is the actual purpose of preseason rankings? If they’re really no value other than to create excitement and endless conversations, I think they should be abolished until at least the season begins.

  • BackWhenOUBoysCabbagePatched says:

    From what I have seen so far, Cobb and Walker have the bent that I think we need.

  • LBS says:

    Really good points. Despite the meltdowns (some warranted) by fans, thats how it felt watching the game. Dakota’s CB spot just kept costing us conversions, but when the field was smaller and his task simplified by safety help near the redzone, we got stops. And Mayfield just not taking the quick shots. Body blows win games like that. Like, Riley knew UH had a vulnerable secondary, didn’t he think that UH ALSO knew that and would use as many cover guys as possible to keep things in front of them?

    I also agree with rotation. Stoops has always kind of annoyed me in that aspect. In some games where we’re blowing a team out he still won’t sub these new guys in. How else do we develop depth if you don’t just start putting guys on the field…how can you correct their mistakes? practices and scrimmages aren’t like games. Plus, it helps for recruiting to know that you can come in and play.

  • SoonerSouthoftheRed says:

    Where’s PJ Mbanasaurus Rex?

  • soonerborn says:

    To me it was all about attitude. Houston had IT, and OU didn’t and hasn’t had it for some time now.

  • Michael says:

    I love what you said K, let these guys be dogs. Great point with J Evans too, I think he is better than what we are seeing, and he has to be. Lastly, I never criticize Bob and don’t want to make a habit of doing so as I know he is a great coach, but Bob needs to find his dog. The hesitancy on the field is likely a reflection of those in charge.

    Your write up got me jacked up to see us rise up and play football!

  • CrimsonNative says:

    I don’t really agree with the, “well, except for a few blown plays and a couple PF’s, we would have won.” Let’s take those out of the equation and pretend like they never happened. If UH had a QB that could throw half way decent, it’s won of OU’s biggest flops in quite some time. If our DB coaches don’t get things figured out with a quickness, it’s going to be really ugly. What’s even worse, I’m pretty sure we knew they were going to throw and still couldn’t stop it. I didn’t see a whole lot of run plays because they knew they didn’t need to run it in order to beat us.

    • Kevin Burger says:

      I’ve never been a fan of “if not for this or that”-ing our way to a win either. I expect the other team to make plays, I expect bad calls to happen, I expect our guys to not repeat mistakes.

    • LBS says:

      meh all of the problems came on one side of the field, and Bob said basically that job is up for grabs big time now. We ALL knew (or should have) expected growing pains on D, it was just supposed to be supported by an awesome offense, which did not show up. I was impressed by the D for holding up as well as they did. We hold a team to 5 FGs…we sure as hell better be able to score more than them.

      • MoJoOkie says:

        Yeah, I’d say holding a team like Houston to 26 points is good enough to win. Ugly at times, but good enough to win. We didn’t do squat on O for the entire second half. It’s a wonder the D held up.

    • Fear The Magic says:

      With all the negativity in here over our D, it should be noted that they stil only gave up 26 points to one of the best offenses in the country. Admittedly they were far from perfect but overall they did a very good job as far as the scoreboard goes.
      As for the offense, thats another story IMO. Riley needs to call a smarter game. Baker needs to focus on moving the chains and not worrying about the home run ball and the WRs need to either find a way to get separation or pack their bags. The WRs to me were the biggest disappointment of all.

      • CrimsonNative says:

        I get it, the guys up front played really well. All I’m saying is, if Ward completes half of the throws that me missed on (like the QB’s we’ll face will), we aren’t holding the D in quite as high regards.

  • Dallas Johnson says:

    Love it Super K.. Great read.. and Great Points.. Boomer Sooner

  • SoonerFan2196 says:

    What’s the hype with Dahu Green about because anytime I’ve ever seen the ball thrown his way (last season, spring game) he’s done nothing but drop it.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      What I don’t understand is why OU is recruiting receivers with “hands problems”. Let other schools recruit those kids and take those chances. OU should be able to recruit kids that are further along in their development as a WR.

      Starting to think Simmons might not be as good as advertised. And I never liked moving Cale off RB’s.

      • Defend Colfax says:

        Simmons is killing it in recruiting and we needed Dahu for depth and he had shown great hands. I think the guys are coming. Baker made no one look better.

      • Jpsooner23 says:

        Simmons came in at the tail end of the 15 class cycle and had no chance but to grab what he could. His first real class was 16 and he seems to be killing it now. Let’s not blame him for the well known issue his predecessor had and left him with.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      What I don’t understand is why OU is recruiting receivers with “hands problems”. Let other schools recruit those kids and take those chances. OU should be able to recruit kids that are further along in their development as a WR.

      Starting to think Simmons might not be as good as advertised. And I never liked moving Cale off RB’s.

  • LottsSocks says:

    Freshman. Saw plenty on different teams contributing this past weekend. Saw some of them making big plays. Where were OUrs?

    I refuse to believe a recently-converted Quick is a better option/plan than a true freshman having years of experience at the position. I suspect monkey business is at play where Quick was promised PT to make the switch, because they truly are THAT desperate.

    • LBS says:

      Quick was a CB in HS, a 4* CB at that. He chose OU bc we said he could play WR. I don’t know if he’ll be the full time starter, but he’s more likely the best option at the moment. Need something to stop the leak opposite Jordan.

    • BackWhenOUBoysCabbagePatched says:

      I think Jackson and Cobb were the only freshman to play. Both played sparingly though.

  • Wild Will says:

    Is Mbanasor that far off? If I remember correctly, he was a big recruit and one of our former CB’s was his personal coach. It seems like he’s not even an option.

    • Glocal Sooner says:

      I think I’m in the minority but I thought Mbanasor played really well vs Tulsa despite it being his first game. I thought they had a really good QB and WR that made great plays against him. He was always putting pressure on the WR and he was consistently there being aggressive on the WR unlike some of our CB’s who are nowhere to be found when their man is catching a ball or they’re trying to tackle someone who doesn’t have the ball.

      • Fear The Magic says:

        I happen to agree with you. From what I could tell he had his man covered pretty well. The problem that I recall is that he wasnt turning back to see the ball and thats why he was getting beat. That being said, the coaches must have seen more for him not to be in there.

      • Wild Will says:

        I agree. Keeping with the sentiment that K posted above, I say put him in and see what he can do in another game. If only it mattered what I thought about it…

  • Scott says:

    Super K Bolton was injured and didn’t play.

  • Maverick says:

    K, Jordan, Brandon, let me know if this is kosher. Definitely not trying to take away from what you guys are doing here, just giving the insatiable some more content.

    I finished the rest of the first half of the offense.

    https://jasb.squarespace.com/new-blog/2016/9/6/film-study-offense-1st-half

    Take it for what it’s worth fellas. Just one guy’s opinion. I’ve been wrong many times before.

  • Scott says:

    OU is ranked 14th in the AP poll , Texass and Ohio St are ranked above us now.

  • Mizuno45 says:

    I don’t recall seeing Perine ever be hit as hard or fall backwards as he did on Saturday

    • Fear The Magic says:

      I agree and I think that hit gave Houston a shot in the arm.

    • AMKing00 says:

      If you watch closely, instead of lowering his shoulder and taking on the hit he went to make a lateral move the last second. That’s why he went backwards.

      • Mark_in_VA says:

        That was my recollection, too. The defender made a terrific hit, but it was pure luck that he hit him at just the right moment.

      • Matt says:

        yep, said that the moment it happened. Its easier to just say look at what the safety did to PERINE though

    • Walter Sobcek says:

      Just commented on that below!

    • Mark_in_VA says:

      If I recall, I think Perine was caught mid-shift, slowing just a hair and changing directions. The timing just happened to be perfect for the defender.

    • DCinAZ says:

      I’m getting a little frustrated with Perine going down in every single big game we play. Flame away!

      • Defend Colfax says:

        Back in the day people were so superstitious they would call situations like these “curses”. Now people are so cynical they blame the injured party. What’s fate?

        • DCinAZ says:

          “Fate” sho do have a way of showing up only in the big games against tough opponents. 😉

          • Defend Colfax says:

            Well if you’re going to keep asking why he gets hurt, you should reword it more appropriately to attack his toughness. If you want more responses.

      • KJ1123 says:

        Some of it is these kids wearing pads that are too small. They wonder why they get these injuries. They’re more interested in looking good than protecting themselves.

        • Defend Colfax says:

          That’s part of it but everyone looks a second too slow on delivering or receiving contact. That’ll get you hurt every time.

        • DCinAZ says:

          Maybe but the guy is a bodybuilder playing RB and he gets more boo-boos than anybody I’ve seen. You know those pro-scouts are thinking “durability issues?”

          • KJ1123 says:

            Im sure they are, there are sometime where you need to make the defender miss for longevity. Hindsight is 20/20 but that was one of those moments.

          • LBS says:

            to keep proper context…his ankle has been an injury since he was a freshman…and he KEPT playing on it regardless same with last year. This year, he injured his shoulder a little bit, and then the safety crashed and hit the same spot. Its just a stinger. Also, not for nothing but leverage matters more than size, that tackler got his pads lower than Perine, which is rare, but its also how Karl Joseph knocked him on his a** last year. UH defender made a smart play.

          • soonerschooner says:

            Toughest kid on the field, imo

      • Jpsooner23 says:

        Yet he comes back in every time.

        I assume this was meant as a “damn the luck” comment

        • DCinAZ says:

          No it’s a “surprise” comment. I don’t see how a guy his size gets hurt as much as he does.

          • SoonerFan92 says:

            Possibly because he is involved with contact more than the normal running back that will try to make you miss? If you’re going to keep to doing a certain thing there are going to be times where you are on the receiving end of it, no matter how big and strong you are. Sometimes you just get caught out of position.

          • SoonerFan92 says:

            Specifically thinking of the time that Karl Joseph caught when he was trying to side step and laid him out (in regards to my comment of being caught out of position).

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            Refresh my memory but what body parts has he injured? Is this not the first upper body injury he has had? I think it is.

          • SoonerFan92 says:

            It is. I think you’re missing my point. I’m not of the side saying that his size and injuries are related. His style, which is being a bruiser, will cause more contact for both bodies, his and the defenders. It will start to wear on anyone no matter your size. It will also cause people to tackle you at the ankles so they don’t have to take you head on. Don’t see where you think that’s what I was getting at.

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            Um, no I didn’t. I asked u a simple question. I agree with what u said and add to that regardless of size an ankle is an ankle and just as easily injured regardless of how big u r. I was on ur side against this odd ball thought process.

          • SoonerFan92 says:

            My bad, I guess I read it the wrong way then. I just know that the old saying “You keep messing with fire, you’re going to get burnt” comes true after a while. In no way am I wanting Perine to change his running style, but there are risks that come with everything. Keep doing you Optimus, no judging here.

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            Most of his injuries have been around the ankles because that’s where people go due to his size. Size and injury are not related so much my man.

  • Mark_in_VA says:

    Money quote:

    Well the irony is, [Joshua Jacobs] took snaps as a true freshman at Alabama, a place whose starting RB hasn’t gone lower than the 3rd round since Saban got there. Meanwhile, OU’s star freshman running back, who happens to be very very similar to Jacobs, still “isn’t quite ready”.

    • SoonerFan92 says:

      They also don’t have Perine or Mixon in their backfield this year. The most experienced back on this years roster had just a handful of carries last year. They also probably ran the ball more than 12 total times combined with their first two backs, though. So I guess it goes both ways.

      • Mark_in_VA says:

        It’s not just the RB, or the specific player. It’s the philosophy. It’d be one thing to say, “Perine, Mixon? Those guys are pretty good. Hard to get snaps.” But instead, he said Adams isn’t quite there. I don’t know if it’s so much emphasis on seniority, or they just fret so much about what new players will do, or maybe something else entirely. But I do think the key to reloading is it doesn’t happen pell-mell. You reload by integrating actively those next generation players onto the field while this generation is still going strong. Stoops just seems to have trouble with that, whatever his philosophical reasoning is. Obo’s a case-in-point. Maybe he’s not making boneheaded mistakes this year if he was given more opportunities while Striker and Bond were still here.

        Anyway, that was the gist of what I got out of K’s point. Sorry, SK, if I missed the point entirely 🙂

    • Mizuno45 says:

      I would bet there is a strong correlation between top schools who consistently land 5* recruits year to year and also have cultures or coaching philosophies which allow them to play early

      • Maverick says:

        Agree Mizuno. Not only is it a great recruiting pitch, but it cycles players through faster. Creating more room for potentially good players to come through.

        Really curious how many different players have been on those rosters vs ours. This is anecdotal, but it seems like they run guys off if they realize after a year or two that they won’t make it.

    • Maverick says:

      Putting this in context, they won 52-6. If we were up by 50 against Houston a lot more guys would’ve seen the field for us too.

  • Walter Sobcek says:

    Rewatching the game now, and two things stand out: Perine was knocked backwards and hurt by a 200 pound safety. Never thought I’d see that. Two plays later, on 3rd and 1, the OL was blocking down, and Houston blitzed a corner and a LB and caught Mixon in the backfield for a loss. Mixon is a beast, but not the fastest guy to the hole starting from a standing position when BM hands him the ball. LOve to see him in motion more on sweeps, wheels and tosses.

    • Mizuno45 says:

      Or post routes 🙂

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      Perine had nobody to blame but himself on that hit. Couldn’t believe with the time he had, and the way the play developed, that he let that safety square him up like that.

  • Walter Sobcek says:

    Parker made a great tackle on Ward in the 1st quarter. Want to see more of that.

  • Walter Sobcek says:

    Downhill runnnng attack, says Super K. Amen to that.

  • Walter Sobcek says:

    Tell you what: Flowers does not pancake defenders like Rip did. Man, I miss him. Flowers is a better receiver, however.

    • KJ1123 says:

      Agree, Flowers got blown up in the back field, there’s no two ways about it. That’s what stopped that run play on 3rd and 1 I think it was, the OL was blocking outside zone, blocked it correctly and there was tons on daylight on the edge.

      • Walter Sobcek says:

        Yep. Just watched that play. And it happened on two other plays in the game. He needs to go lower if he can’t plow the defender from the waist up.

      • Matt says:

        yeah I felt like all day, Flowers was trying to just get in a guys way rather than actually laying a hit on him.

    • Gusterson says:

      Not only does he not pancake defenders, he gets blown up and causes a mess before the play even develops. Millard and Rip he is not-

    • Maverick says:

      Yep. Seems to me he’s being the anvil instead of the hammer.

  • Walter Sobcek says:

    Cobb was all over Dunbar on a big third and 10 play but the back sholder throw was perfect.

    • Super K says:

      I was referring to another play. But back shoulders were working on both Cobb and JT in part because they’re difficult to defend in my part because neither player was in phase.

  • Mizuno45 says:

    Not picking on the guy, but hear me out. I think most of us might agree on at least questioning why Dakota Austin was “the guy”. Now based on the performance, is it fair to question the rationale behind the decision to start him, because shouldn’t we should expect the same criteria which was used to declare him the starter will be duplicated again?

    • Maverick says:

      I think you have to throw in the amount of faith Mike puts in guys being assignment sound vs the best player.

      Quick might be a better cover corner, he might it show it everyday in practice, but if he blows a few calls, he won’t start.

      Now maybe they re-evaluate that outlook which could mean someone else is the guy.

      • Mizuno45 says:

        Part of me believes that too, but sometimes I think kids can be so assignment minded it limits their ability to use instincts and make plays. Example is Sanchez, the guy got burned but also made a heck of an amount of plays.

    • DCinAZ says:

      I don’t know how a DB coach could ascertain who’s a starter and who isn’t against our WR group. I think I’m starting to see why Cooks thinks we’re deep in the secondary and he can now rotate guys in. Or at least he believed that until last Saturday…..

  • Walter Sobcek says:

    Should have been 3rd and 30, but a PF on Evans gets Houston a 2nd chance and field goal.

    • Jake says:

      I was HIGHLY disappointed in J. Evans when I watched some of the recaps of the game. On multiple occasions, I saw him gingerly jogging towards the ball carrier/QB and just whiffing on his tackles.

      Really lacking as a ‘head hunter’, punishing type LB.

      Unacceptable in my opinion.

      • Maverick says:

        Absolutely this. Neither Evans looked very inspired. Not sure if they’re being asked to do too much and they can’t play fast, or if they just aren’t those type of guys.

        • Jake says:

          There may be some ‘overthinking’ to an extent, but not for a VET like J. Evans.

          At the end of the day, I kept spotting him NOT chomping at the bit to go hurt somebody when he had every opportunity to.

          Particularly when gang-tackling opportunities arose.

          • SamSooner says:

            That’s the thing I like a Malik Jefferson: the dude is out to make plays and he has bad intentions when he arrives. We have two classes of LBs, I say wholesale substitutions.

          • Jake says:

            Totally with you, Sam.

            Malik reminds me of a prototypical OKLAHOMA LB. I don’t know who drugged him on signing day (Charlie Strong), but the guy is wearing the wrong colors.

        • Jake says:

          Jordan Evans is the type of LB that could knock multiple dudes out of game if he delivered the blows that he’s capable of.

          He’s just not doing it, IMO.

        • DCinAZ says:

          Neither of them were highly recruited by anybody. That’s the biggest part of the problem.

          • Maverick says:

            Exactly. The “Fire Kish” era has fully matured and left the cupboards bare.

          • DCinAZ says:

            To be fair, Mike has changed the defensive scheme so much Kish has had to run his ass off to find LBs for every defensive scheme under the sun. LBers in a 4-3 are different than LBers in a 3-4.

      • CrimsonNative says:

        I don’t get it. He was excellent last year. He seems to have softened since last year and doesn’t have the same desire or want like he did. He plays assignment sound, which is what gets him on the field, but he’s lost that fire.

        • Jake says:

          Exactly. The lack of fire is inexcusable and highly disappointing. I’ll take passion & pain from my LB any day over a guy that’s comfortably entrenched in his position.

      • DCinAZ says:

        I think that’s part of the problem with recruiting safeties to play LB at the D-1 level. As much a you think you can develop them into a new position, LBer is a “mentality” that you can’t give them. I think that’s a big part of the problem as to why we haven’t had any thumpers at LB in such a long time. They aren’t really LBers.

  • KJ1123 says:

    Not having the Oklahoma drill leads to softness….jus sayin.

    • Defend Colfax says:

      It’s a joke

    • Golfluvr13 says:

      Growing up that was the one practice everyone dreaded. But it did toughen every single person up.

      • KJ1123 says:

        Exactly, remember when kids got excited because they get to HIT!? Now its like, I hope we dont go full pads today.

        • Golfluvr13 says:

          Yes sir. That is how a lot of us learned how to hit properly. My first year of tackle football we did the Oklahoma drill at least once a week all year long.

          • KJ1123 says:

            Oklahoma drill, bull in the ring, the meat grinder, the gauntlet, those were the best.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            Oh man, I hated the gauntlet as much as the Oklahoma drill. LOL But it did help me to be a better player.

          • KJ1123 says:

            Yeah it did. Its really a culture, one kid steps up and lays the wood constantly, the next kid is going to be like I WANNA HIT LIKE THAT…and so on and so on. How many kids growing up wanted to be like Ronnie Lott? I think its just the culture right now.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            Growing up, I wanted to hit people like Jack Lambert did for the Steelers. He was always bloody and missing a tooth, but you could always tell when a RB was going towards him they were like, I’m just gonna fall down before I get there. You have to have that mentality on defense, “I’m going to tear your head off”. Our coach preached that every day in practice.

          • KJ1123 says:

            NOBODY is scared of our defense, I remember when coming across the middle was no man’s land. And now, nobody is going to be scared of our offense until we prove otherwise. We need that ONE or two guys that just strike fear in opponents.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            Exactly! I miss Torrance and Teddy in the middle! They struck fear into people.

          • Mizuno45 says:

            Don’t forget Calmus, but I think he probably slobbered on opponents which they feared more than his physicality

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            I should have thrown Rocky in there too. He was unafraid and he hit anything near him. He was another one we miss!

          • Maverick says:

            We miss you Striker.

          • ouwooferman says:

            Nobody has been scared of OU since USC. NO ONE> That is why we now lose at home, have games that are not suppose to be close, and why we have only score 6 second half points in the last two games. i hate finesse football.

          • KJ1123 says:

            Its soft! Just soft all around…how about I lay you out and then see who wins this war? Houston had two big hits that pumped their team up and sent their confidence soaring.

          • ouwooferman says:

            This.^^^^

          • LBS says:

            Honestly, our front 7 still lays people out. We hobbled catalon and ward this year, and several people (stidham esp) last year. But in the secondary…targeting has made that fly around mentality a little hesitant. I remember the viscious hit Manny took against UF in the BCS game…that would’ve been targeting today.

          • Defend Colfax says:

            I think we’ve had a couple nasty D’s since but being physical isn’t a high priority it seems. This has been too long, you can’t put it on the players forever, when Baylor is punking us, then what are we doing? They weren’t even getting that skilled of classes until they were winning. Not condoning anything Briles does, but there should be standards set on how hard you go. This is football. The other team does it, it is legal.

          • Defend Colfax says:

            On the both sides of the ball we lack it. Honestly our D looks closer to being dominating than our offense. The offense looks like it’s based off calligraphy and some form of peaceful martial arts where no one goes down to the ground.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            LOL! Sorry, but that visual is hilarious.

          • SoonerOracle737 says:

            It looked more like the “A Team” where everyone shoots at everybody but no one gets hit.

          • KJ1123 says:

            Nobody ever died! How can that be?

          • SoonerOracle737 says:

            One of the great mysteries.

          • DCinAZ says:

            “Growing up, I wanted to hit people like Jack Lambert did for the Steelers. ”

            One of my idols as well when I started playing in little league. And I DID hit people like Jack Lambert, early and often.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            I did too DC. I played RB and LB until I was in 8th grade when they moved me to WR and DE. I loved playing LB, I got to hit someone on every single play. I begged my coach to let me just play defense, but we did not have enough players to do that (we did, but not enough good ones).

          • DCinAZ says:

            Haha…..I played DE and RG and I tore asses up every Friday night firing into the backfield. And then I’d complain in the car all they way home after the game because my helmet was sh*tty and had an embarrassing facemask. Good times!

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            LOL! Yeah, I miss playing. I had to quit when I was 15 and I tore my knee to shreds. I loved playing DE too. I was a scrawny kid, but had quick feet and used leverage on “big fat lineman” (that’s what my coach always said to me). I led our team in sacks in 8th grade. Ahh, the good old days.

          • KJ1123 says:

            That’s awesome! We need ALOT more of that. Sharpens your senses, reduces these whiffs, not to mention the psychological advantage.

          • Maverick says:

            I’ve never ran faster in my life than playing scout team Qb as a hs freshman. Those guys were allowed to crush us, and we all got better for it.

          • Maverick says:

            I’ve never ran faster in my life than playing scout team Qb as a hs freshman. Those guys were allowed to crush us, and we all got better for it.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            I remember my first practice playing tackle football. Our coach was like, you are a quick kid you are going to play RB. First play, run between the center and RG. I don’t think I made it that far before I got demolished. Our coached laughed his head off, he said welcome to real football. UGH

          • DCinAZ says:

            Hell we did that in little league.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            Exactly!

          • DCinAZ says:

            Hell we did that in little league.

          • Maverick says:

            I always loved the sock drill. Two guys, each with a sock on. Whoever get’s the other guy’s sock wins.

        • Jake says:

          Don’t hit somebody, ‘you might get hurt’.

          GROSS.

          This is football—man up!

        • Fear The Magic says:

          I think a kid like Draper is the perfect kind of player to get OU back into that frame of mind. He seems to play with mean intent.

        • Maranatha846 says:

          On the same subject, did anyone besides me notice Dalvin shying away from contact last night? He was acting awful strange for a Heisman candidate.

          • KJ1123 says:

            Yeah and he got hurt on that slide at the end of the game too. I was kind of scratching my head.

          • Maranatha846 says:

            Yeah, me too. You could tell the whole game he was shying away from contact. May have been trying to protect an already injured body.

        • Boom says:

          I loved it because it was a platform to separate yourself from your competition. It would get crazy and guys would seek others they were trying to beat out. It was flat out do or die.

    • Maverick says:

      I would have scheduled a 3 hour session at about 5:30 am Monday morning if I was Stoops. D Line exempt cause they actually played violent football.

    • Matt says:

      not having Brent Venables on the sideline leads to softness. The defensive philisophy shifted from Attack to Contain the moment Mike stepped back on campus.

      • Mizuno45 says:

        I get that

      • SamSooner says:

        That’s my thought.

      • LBS says:

        I can agree with that. Coach V was always aggressive. Of course the flip side..no one gave up more home run busts than Venables defense. I guarantee you if we had an OL that could block, those same holes were there against Clem. Its how every team they played made them look just good instead of great on defense except OU.

        • Matt says:

          Riley didn’t really try to exploit the holes. You can hit holes with slants and drags, fast developing routes that he didn’t call. The o-line sucked but so did Riley’s playcalling. You can say that about Saturday against UH and Clemson last year.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            Actually he had guys on short routes open, the QB just did not deliver it there.

          • OUhound says:

            Yep, Mayfield did not have one of his better games, even though the stats don’t show it. But part of that is that Houston did not have to respect the run at all.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            Exactly! But I do remember on third and short where Baxter was on the far side at the FD marker, with no one within the picture of him and Mixon on the near side near the FD marker with no one around him and Baker was looking downfield, then ran and ended up with no gain. UGH. Those are things that can be fixed with some film study. However, running the ball a planned 12 times will not win many ANY games!

          • Spitting Bull says:

            I don’t think it was planned that way.

          • Matt says:

            very good chance you’re right. I’m about as upset with Baker as I have been with any QB after a game in the Stoops era. Him scrambling on 4th and 15 pretty much sums up his game Saturday.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            Yes sir, very true. I could not figure out why he was holding the ball so long. I just figured the WR’s were not getting open. But it turns out he was looking for the big play.

      • leatherneck1061 says:

        At last! A fellow Venables fan…..now I know I’m not alone around here 🙂

      • Clint says:

        You mean the guy that couldn’t defend against Texas Tech, so Oklahoma lost to them every year in Lubbock including once in Norman once he took over as the primary defensive coordinator?

        That’s great that he’s doing well at Clemson, but he WAS a problem at Oklahoma. Unless of course you want to say that Bob Stoops is ultimately the problem.

        Thank goodness he didn’t have to face Baylor or TCU’s offense of recent years, they would have put up 70.

        • Matt says:

          I think that if Venables had someone other than Bobby Jack Wright coaching his secondary and a better D-line coach, OU would’ve won another national championship when he was here and he would probably still be here. I actually think Mike is a decent coordinator but he has way better assistants around him than Venables ever did and he has only come close to matching Venables top defenses once (last year).

  • Jeremy Turpen says:

    Boomer Sooner ladies and gentleman so how may many DL/DE do we take for 2017 class because I think we truly need to convert back to the 4-3 or a 4-2-5 base D instead of a 3-4 for the time being.

    • DCinAZ says:

      Going back to a 4 man front would sure make recruiting easier

      • Golfluvr13 says:

        Not to mention it would help putting pressure on the QB.

        • Defend Colfax says:

          And getting some more of our strongest unit* out there.

          * Not sure about anything anymore.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            I hear you Colfax. Saturday got me all confused and mixed up.

          • Defend Colfax says:

            I was pretty drunk by the time I watched the other football games so I couldn’t watch them too closely but no one looked that superior against other P5 competition.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            Uh, Bama’s defense looked like it was ready for NFL tryouts. And I hate saying that. I hate Saban and Bama and the $EC. But I have to give props to their D, they looked like they wanted to rip some heads off.

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            Love u man, but do u see the irony behind this post under an “OU needs four down lineman” commentary?

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            LOL! Yes sir I do. But OU is not getting the size and speed that Bama is getting on defense. I wish I could say otherwise, but that is true. I think for what OU plays against, a four man front is better. Bama plays against mostly traditional offenses (although that is changing some in the $EC) and their 3-4 works better for them. However, did you notice when they go to their nickel package that they only have 2 down lineman? They keep their 4 LB’s on the field.

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            Had to give u crap on that, u teed it right up for me

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            I know. But it’s true, they get bigger/faster “big” guys than we go after. It’s just the way it is. I miss the old 4-2-5 that we ran when Bob/Mike first got here!

          • SoonerOracle737 says:

            Busting Golf’s chops for teeing one up for you? Oh, the irony.

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            Yes, pun was intended!

          • Boom says:

            Always stirring the pot around here. 😉

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            Yeah, I skipped right over that. I was afraid I’d tee another one up for him. LOL

          • Soonerbred says:

            Agreed. I hate ’em, but it sure seems like its Alabama and everyone else more often than not. Saban is the greates college football coach – dead or alive.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            I don’t know about him being the greatest coach. I will give him props, he has done a lot and is a very good coach.

          • Defend Colfax says:

            I wasn’t counting them I guess. I’ve just been penciling Bama in until Saban leaves.

    • KJ1123 says:

      I always prefer a 4-3 over a 3-4.

  • Mizuno45 says:

    Why can’t not using the Oklahoma Drill be politically incorrect, another dagger from:
    Exposing
    Silly
    Petty
    Nonsense

  • Maverick says:

    Question for everyone.

    What time is it on your OU Football Doomsday Clock?

    Doomsday meaning OU football going through an era akin to the period between Barry and Bob.

    Mine is set at about 8:30pm.

    • Golfluvr13 says:

      Honestly, my clock doesn’t even have batteries in it yet.

      • OUhound says:

        Yep, I’m a long long way from there. We just came off a big 12 Championship and there were a ton of things that just plain went wrong in that game.

    • DCinAZ says:

      Neh. That won’t happen again.

    • Mizuno45 says:

      Screw allowing Houston into the Big XII, let’s just steal their coach

    • Kevin Burger says:

      Maybe 1 AM (so 23 hours to go). College football is a much bigger business now than it was then, and Oklahoma is the 8th most profitable program in the country. Money may not bring in recruits (legally) but it can bring in coaching staff and facilities, should we need it.

    • Jpsooner23 says:

      Cmon Mav…

      • Maverick says:

        8:30 isn’t bad, Lol! The real one has been at 11:59 for years now!

        Stoops era probably won’t last more than 5 more years. It’s just question marks after that imo. String a couple 4 loss seasons together, his kids will be greaduated, might be even quicker than that.

        • Kevin Burger says:

          If we have a couple 4 loss seasons after the Stoops Era, then that’s on the AD. Unless things change, OU will be one of the top 5ish most desirable coaching jobs in the country.

          There’s more than enough money, an established national recruiting footprint, the hope for national titles, but not an overwhelming pressure to get them (like a Saban successor would deal with, or even Saban himself), and you apparently don’t have to worry about overly involved alumni, like the guys down in Austin.

          Unless something changes, the only way I see a dry spell post Stoops would be a poor choice for his successor.

          • Maverick says:

            Every “blue blood” has had tough stretches recently. Notre Dame, USC, Alabama, Michigan, Florida, Texas, etc.

            The only ones that haven’t is maybe Ohio State. It seems irrational to think it can’t happen to us.

          • OUhound says:

            Tough stretches? You do remember that we went to the playoff last year, right?

          • Maverick says:

            We’re definitely not in one now. I’m just being hypothetical that it could happen in the future. What time it is on the clock is a measure of the potential to have a tough stretch.

          • OUhound says:

            Its a given that it will happen at least at some point in the future. But we have a pretty good recruiting class coming in, so no time soon for sure. I think Stoops will be gone within 3 – 5 years and if Lincoln is still around and successful, he’ll take over the reins.

          • Kevin Burger says:

            That makes me nervous. I think Riley has a great offensive mind, and is good at self critiquing, but I’ve always preferred head coaches with a background in defense.

          • KJ1123 says:

            How about DC? I dont see Mike around next year if our D keeps playing like this.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            Can you imagine Thanksgiving with the Stoops’ family if that happens. Mike: “I’m not sitting by Bob, he fired me.”
            Bob: “Oh come on Mike, your defense had more holes than swiss cheese.”

          • OUhound says:

            Definitely not pretty.

          • KJ1123 says:

            OR
            Hey Bob are you and Carol coming over for Thanksgiving?
            We’re still playing Mike.
            OH ok…um nevermind.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            ROTFLOL!

          • ouwooferman says:

            Yeah, I thought i heard Bo will have an opening for him at Youngstown St.

          • Maverick says:

            After pushing out Venables in favor of Mike, I don’t see any scenario where Mike is fired and Bob stays. Unless Mike punches a baby or something.

          • KJ1123 says:

            That’s true.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            That is probably an accurate statement. I really wish Bob had gone outside the family for a DC.

          • Maverick says:

            We already had a pretty good one! He didn’t have the vision at the time to get a great recruiter, but that’s what he needed.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            True, we did have a pretty good one, but not a great one. Now we still don’t have a great one.

          • Maverick says:

            I feel like if Riley is still around in that amount of time, he hasn’t been that great. No way he makes it if he continues to be really good.

          • OUhound says:

            I don’t know. To waltz into an Elite program job like that worth 5 mil a year? I might take that gamble and stay.

          • Maverick says:

            True. Hopefully he is great, and he stays.

          • Kevin Burger says:

            I agree, and I’m not saying it can’t. But if it does, it’s because we chose the wrong successor. A good coach won’t string together a couple of 4+ loss seasons at school making an investment in football like Oklahoma.

          • Maverick says:

            Agreed. That choice is crucial. Conference instability throws a weird curve in there as well.

        • Soonerbred says:

          If he can get the talent issue fixed, which would be 2-3 years from now, I can see him winning another one.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      I don’t think it would/will ever get that bad under Bob.

    • ouwooferman says:

      Since this is Hypothetical, I will play. If OU lays an egg this year (meaning we lose to UH, UT, tOSU, TCU, BU and OSU), miss a bowl bid, its 11pm. Two years in a row like that and you can move that time to 1130. Three….

      It was just a few years back that stoops fired coaches. The fires with in the Sooner machine were inching higher.

      Currently I would agree with your 830 time.

      • Maverick says:

        You get the idea, lol. It’s not a measure of the standing of the program. It’s the measure of it’s potential to collapse.

        • ouwooferman says:

          Sure. OU/donors just invested millions in a renovation. Big 12 proly expands, Competition continues to grow. OU will either find a way to keep up with the Bamma’s tOsUs or we will fade like USC, NU, Michigan, Miami, Georgia…… I dont want to go there again. The 60s and the 90s sucked so hard.

    • Rick says:

      I get where you are coming from, but as I mentioned over the weekend, things were not so good for Switzer for about 3-4 years in the early 80’s. He did right the ship for another natty after, but people were calling for his head using a lot of the same arguments we see today. We are paying him so much, he’s become soft, he doesn’t have the fire anymore. BURY BARRY!!!! He did very well after that until the criminals hit the team. The 90s, I actually quit watching football for a few years, and really could care less. It wasn’t bad, it was painful. This is not even in the same category.

  • OUhound says:

    I am still just completely baffled at Mixon and Perine only getting six snaps a piece. That one just floors me. After Mixon’s big catch, why in the world did we toss is three times in a row with those guys in the backfield?

  • Ura Mazin says:

    Good news everyone! I just got word that the NCAA is going to call that first game of the season a “Preseason Game!” Apparently the coaching staff at OU knew about this and that’s why they were still working out a lot of kinks at different positions.

  • Mizuno45 says:

    Ohio State will have 11 guys waiting on Baker to run the option or leave the pocket, he better be decisive and leave his dancing shoes in the locker room

    • Ura Mazin says:

      That ball better not be stuck to his hand again. Get it to the RBs or throw it.

    • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

      I think they will mix up their looks quite a bit. They’ll show two-high safeties, then roll one down to show Cover 1 man. And vice versa.

      They’ll have a controlled rush and maintain sound gap assignments, then bring the house, then greendog by sending a delayed blitz when Perine/Mixon stays in to protect Baker.

      They’ll try to force Baker to make the lower probability, “exciting” plays.

  • Sacramento Sooner says:

    we better expect tOSU defense is going to duplicate anything Houston had success with, as will every other team. Praying Riley & Mayfield fix it.

  • Sacramento Sooner says:

    there should be a run quota for every quarter for MIxon & Perine, and regardless of down & distance, they meet their quota. It would be like not handing the ball to Billy Sims for most the game. PERINE IS GOING TO BE THE ALL-TIME LEADING RUSHER @ OU! HAND HIM THE BALL!

    • OUhound says:

      Sims was unbelievable to watch run. In an era designed to stop the run the guy just blew past or above all others. Hence my avi. 🙂

    • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

      We should give them the ball, but not on the level of a Les Miles run the ball against all logic and evidence style that turns into a quota.

      • Sacramento Sooner says:

        Truth…luckily we have a good qb. If they establish the run, it will open up for him

  • Tim A says:

    Super K, fantastic read. Thank you. I couldn’t agree more with getting some more guys in there and see how they react. I constantly read about these great recruits and athletes we get – and then wait 2 years before we see them even sniff the field because they aren’t quite ready. At other schools I see true freshman play and contribute. We don’t need perfect players out there – we need hungry players flying around and playing violently (on defense especially). Let ’em play!

  • connie usa says:

    K. Excellent write-up!!!! Very much appreciated!!!!

  • OUhound says:

    One of the things I miss from my days at OU was our defense. In 1974, teams averaged only 8 points a game on us. In 75, it went up to 12.5. Still really respectable. I doubt today its even possible with the offenses, but we used to be the Bama of football D wise. Now it feels more like we have to outscore them.

    • Golfluvr13 says:

      Heck even in the early to mid-80’s OU’s D was dominant.

    • UGA Sooner says:

      I think Bob is an excellent coach, but I fear that this is due to Bob’s “chill” approach to recruiting. We do not have the athletes on D that, for example, Bama and tOSU have. SS17 is refreshing and recruiting has taken an excellent turn for the better, but OU was embarrassing on the recruiting trail the past 4-5 years. Hell, UGA has out recruited them for many years and UGA hasn’t done crap on the field. Hopefully this new recruiting take will beef up the D. We have a good D for the big 12. Not for winning championships, unfortunately. I hope this year I am proven wrong, however.

    • ouwooferman says:

      Funny, I have always thought the Air Raid has been a quick fix, score points because you cant recruit enough players to have a D as well. Stoops inherited Blake’s players. He had just 1999 recruits on his team in 2000 NC> If you can outscore a team, then D is just a thought.

      Since Bob is an old D guy, i dont get the failure

  • John Sharp says:

    Am I the only one who thinks Baker abandons the pocket way to quickly? And that by doing so he puts his offensive lineman under duress by changing their blocking angles/positions. The lack of running plays is inexcusable and I don’t believe Mike Stoops is capable of stopping a mobile quarterback consistently or maybe even occasionally.

    • OUhound says:

      Nope, pretty much everyone thought that.

    • Kevin Burger says:

      I think he leaves the pocket fairly quickly, but I think I recall one of the coaches saying that they’re fine with that, because he tends to make plays on the move. I could be mistaken in that regard though.

      • OUhound says:

        Yeah but he’s checking down way too fast. The guy is really hanging onto the ball.

        • Kevin Burger says:

          Absolutely. As the season progresses, we’ll see how much of last year was Mayfield, and how much was having a security blanket with a catching radius the size of Texas, in Shepard.

    • DCinAZ says:

      He abandons perfect pockets for no reason whatsoever time and time again

      • Ura Mazin says:

        Like jumping out of a perfectly good airplane. Why do it?

      • BackWhenOUBoysCabbagePatched says:

        On our last scoring drive he stayed in the pocket and marched us right down the field. Film study will be of good help this week.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      Regularly

    • Burger4President says:

      I was actually shocked at how well they kept Ward’s running in check. 1 yard on 18 carries with a long of 11. I know sacks count against that number. But I honestly expected him to approach 100 yards on the ground against us based on how our defenses have previously done against mobile QBs. He put up a lot of yards on us through the air, but I think that was due to the corner’s ability more than Mike’s schemes. We need to lock that position down now.

      • OUhound says:

        Yep, we shut him down pretty well. But he’d walk to the huddle and ask “where’s Austin at? That’s where the ball’s going”.

    • Ibtwan says:

      Um Greg Ward had 18 rushes for 1 yard. I put most of the coverage busts on the corners. If corners aren’t doing their job you can blame Mike much.

    • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

      Disagree about Mike.

  • CrimsonNative says:

    Do you guys remember the days when we were all up in arms about what the band was doing? Ahh…I miss those days.

  • soonerjunky says:

    How can a highly recruited CB play as a true freshman, but not even be on the 3 deep as a sophomore? He wouldn’t have played as a frsh if he didn’t have talent and do the right things in the class room. Someone please explain why the coaches would burn his redshirt if he couldn’t help them?

  • LandThieve3 says:

    Great read, K

  • SavageSoonerEsq says:

    Fantastic read. I’m past weary of OU having to receive a severe beat-down to get a wake-up call.

  • OUhound says:

    The funny part is, we’ll probably just knock the snot out of poor LM this Saturday and everybody will be all positive heading into the game with tOSU.

    • Jesse says:

      I’ll be happy (if all goes accordingly) but not too happy. I’ll be a pig in a mud pit though if we we come out of the RRR 4-1

    • KJ1123 says:

      IF we do…I hope everyone realizes…it’s ULM.

    • leatherneck1061 says:

      You’re probably right, but it’s sad that anyone would get very excited from beating ULM. The way things looked against UH, we could beat ULM by 70 and it wouldn’t make me feel any better. There just isn’t any substitute for being able to get it done against the big boys.

  • Jason Vos says:

    Obo played real well. He stood out to me despite the mental errors. He was strong at the point of attack, fast and explosive. He will be a problem to block this year

  • leatherneck1061 says:

    Great write up. Maybe there is hope after all. Maybe I’ll step back from the ledge….a little.

    • Mizuno45 says:

      “Step back from that ledge my friend.”

      Signed,

      Third Eye Blind

      • leatherneck1061 says:

        I guess I’ll step back for a minute. But if we get blown off our own field by tOSU, as far as I’m concerned this coaching staff is responsible for whatever happens to me 😉

      • leatherneck1061 says:

        I guess I’ll step back for a minute. But if we get blown off our own field by tOSU, as far as I’m concerned this coaching staff is responsible for whatever happens to me 😉

  • soonermusic says:

    Good analysis, K. I completely agree that Obos performance far outweighed his early problems. Jmho, but I think it’s premature, especially considering the particulars of this loss, to call for a major change in how players are used, and evaluated. Not accusing you of that, but certainly some think that as soon as a game is lost, no matter how, the coaches have lost their ability to evaluate talent. Again, jmho, but I think the track record says otherwise. I could be way off base, but it looked to me like the alternating of corners by quarter may have exactly been the strategy of seeing who could cut it the best at game time. I may have missed an substitution but it looked to me like Dakota played all of 1&3 and Cobb all of 2&4. My guess is that they think Quick has the skills and athleticism to take over, and as soon as they can get him coached up and confident on the mental details he’ll be in–big time. We’ll see.

    Meantime, better expect a ruggedly challenging season. Several of the teams we will encounter will have the ability to defeat anyone in the country on a given Saturday, if the breaks fall the right way, including KState, judging by what I saw this weekend.

    • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

      Obo made a mistake on his coverage responsibility when another blitzing player vacated a space. Obo was supposed to watch the RB and he goofed. This can be improved relatively easily.

      The overzealous personal foul can also be eliminated easily.

  • soonermusic says:

    Good analysis, K. I completely agree that Obos performance far outweighed his early problems. Jmho, but I think it’s premature, especially considering the particulars of this loss, to call for a major change in how players are used, and evaluated. Not accusing you of that, but certainly some think that as soon as a game is lost, no matter how, the coaches have lost their ability to evaluate talent. Again, jmho, but I think the track record says otherwise. I could be way off base, but it looked to me like the alternating of corners by quarter may have exactly been the strategy of seeing who could cut it the best at game time. I may have missed an substitution but it looked to me like Dakota played all of 1&3 and Cobb all of 2&4. My guess is that they think Quick has the skills and athleticism to take over, and as soon as they can get him coached up and confident on the mental details he’ll be in–big time. We’ll see.

    Meantime, better expect a ruggedly challenging season. Several of the teams we will encounter will have the ability to defeat anyone in the country on a given Saturday, if the breaks fall the right way, including KState, judging by what I saw this weekend.

  • DCinAZ says:

    #CD3 ‏@_CeDariann 18h18 hours ago Texas, USA
    Not too long before I Step foot on college campus⭕️??

  • Hollerback says:

    Try and explain to me how rushing TWO defenders on 3 and long was a good idea!

  • SoonerJake says:

    “– Don’t think I saw Bolton on the field at all.”

    I’m pretty sure it was announced early last week that Bolton wouldn’t play due to an injury, but that he was expected back vs ULM.

  • HoustonChiver says:

    I know we have a lot of football yet to play, but if there are not improvements by the guys we put on the field then I expect a lot of true freshman to play next year.

  • Maverick says:

    I completely missed that Alex Ross wound up at Mizzou. Had 18 for 67 yards. So Alex Ross got 1.5 times as many carries as Perine and Mixon combined last Saturday. Go figure.

  • Okie403 says:

    Re-watched part of game. Had forgotten about the speed option to the right on 3rd and short. If BM pitches to Perine, it’s probably 6. Making it 17-6 I think. Diff game after that. I know games don’t really come down to 1 play but I’d sure like to see the result of that alternate timeline. Any thoughts?

    • Sooner Ray says:

      Yep, I was pissed as soon as he tucked it.

      • Okie403 says:

        It was set up so perfectly…even had the pitch with his ‘good’ hand. Perine downhill with steam vs any DB. Damn…. If ifs and buts were candies and nuts we wouldn’t be listening to the BS outta the talking heads. Ok. Doesn’t rhyme but fits

        • SamSooner says:

          The other thing about that play is it appeared BM wanted to make the defender make a choice: he turned up field, placing the defender between Perine and himself; BM would have been wise to close the gap with Perine, get tackled after he pitched to Perine.

          I hate it when OU loses a game because they help the opponent beat them.

  • BackWhenOUBoysCabbagePatched says:

    Missed the Town Hall AGAIN! Painful. Sure folks asked good questions though. Going to go catch it now. Seriously one of the best features TFB has put out.

  • Cory Reedy says:

    I’d like to ask about the leadership on this team. Where are the leaders? There was ZERO emotion Saturday. I kept looking at the sidelines waiting to see someone, ANYONE, get fired up and lead.

    • DCinAZ says:

      Young kid taking a stand. Impressive.

    • BackWhenOUBoysCabbagePatched says:

      Man, I really like this kid. One of the more insightful observations and action plans that I have seen from anyone as of late, let alone a young man in high school. What is the lower limit of the presidential age requirement?

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    Id like to see the OU D have some of these this year https://youtu.be/_b7rGBvIcSs

  • BackWhenOUBoysCabbagePatched says:

    Re-watching the game again. Man, if Obo can get his mind right, he has a chance to be really good.

    I cannot put my finger on Mead. I really thought he could be a AJ Green type player for us. To be clear, I did not think he was an AJ Green level of talent necessarily, but thought he would bring that type of game to Norman. Just not coming together.

    • SoonerFan92 says:

      Did they ever target Mead? If so, I must’ve missed it.

      • BackWhenOUBoysCabbagePatched says:

        I do not believe so. I have been watching him closely, and he does not seem to run his routes hard or crisp. He has a bit of a loping gait, so it is hard to tell if it is effort or if he just has a long turnover. Cannot figure it out.

        • SoonerFan92 says:

          That’s what I was thinking. I wish they would target him before people completely shut the door on him. He has shown the ability to make a crazy grab sometimes.

      • Maranatha846 says:

        Listen, I’m not being mean to Mead but all he has shown since he’s been here is that he can’t catch the ball. He’s not the only one like that on the team. All of the holdovers from last year have already shown us they can’t get separation nor catch the ball consistently. Westbrook and Andrews are starting because they catch better than the others, but none of them are the go to guy. Better hope that Mykel Jones is. I know that’s rough, but it was proven last year they weren’t consistent. If BM throws it up, they will catch some, but nowhere near enough.

        • D Hunter Sanchez says:

          Okay. But the coaches said WRs are open.

          • Maranatha846 says:

            Yeah, they occasionally are open, but they still can’t catch the ball. We sa it last year with all of the ones who saw the field. An off season isn’t going to fix that. You can teach em to run routes, get separation ( which most still haven’t learned ), but you can’t teach catching the ball, that’s something you either can or can’t do. Sure, they will catch some, but an offensive lineman can do that, but we need someone consistent. Dropped passes stop drives. As I have mentioned in other post, fans better be hoping Mykel Jones is a go to guy because none of the others are.

    • BackWhenOUBoysCabbagePatched says:

      Someone asked/commented about Beal getting more playing time. I would like to see him play more too, but good night he blew a tackle with 4:24 to go in the 4th Q that almost resulted in a TD.

    • JD says:

      If you want to see AJ Green just wait until they get AD more touches…heck with initials like that he should be a fan fav..amiright! Anyways..I think he had one catch and one target and he laid out for it. Unfortunately it was a short pass behind the sticks that he laid out to catch…he should get at least 5 targets a game imo

  • SWoods says:

    https://twitter.com/brandontfb/status/773332080080015360

    Hawk put this on the OP. Just thought I’d bring it over here for you guys. It’s going to be a great podcast!!

  • SoonerFan92 says:

    Anyone catch Toby’s show with BS?

  • BackWhenOUBoysCabbagePatched says:

    Feel bad for Dakota. Think he reached this weekend. Was trying too hard and forced things a bit. He is more talented than his level of play on Saturday. Last year he squared off with Allen Lazard – who was bigger and IMO more talented than Houston’s WRs – and held his own.

  • KJ1123 says:

    Just watched the game again…focused on the OL of course. Just my opinion, but I really dont want to hear that Brown is REALLY good. He was not good on Sat and I wouldnt put him as one of the top in the conference yet, let alone the Nation.

    • Maverick says:

      Yeah and the scary part is that he might be the best one.

      • KJ1123 says:

        I mean yeah hes big but common sense is not there I don’t think. Samia had the best game, the only problem with him is hes not flashy. Like he doesnt finish with authority and really set the tone. Assignment and tech wise hes tops. I know JY is high on him too, once he puts it all together I think he’ll be special. Hes gonna play guard this week, I anticipate alot of run. After watching the run plays tonight, all the big gains came from his side. Im looking forward to see what him and Evans can do together.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      You’re really bringing me down man.

      • KJ1123 says:

        But….hes a big dude! Hows that? 🙂

        • Sooner Ray says:

          Better, I’m really excited to see Evans on the line. Can’t say how he will do but it’s a good week to get him going.

          • KJ1123 says:

            I am too….Evans is pretty athletic. Two big athletic guys on one side cant be bad at all.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            I really hope Bob puts all the young guys in this week to get a grade on them in a real game rather than just practice. Some of them may really bring something when the lights are actually on, and it would make the vets think long and hard about stepping up.

          • KJ1123 says:

            I agree. Some of these kids dont get alot of chances in practice becasue of time obviously. There could be some real gamers that havent gotten a chance yet.

    • JD says:

      I was highly disappointed in his play. When you see his number and name that means he is chasing the rusher and I saw his number more than I expected to

      • KJ1123 says:

        Precisely. For example, a play broke down and he had a chance to clean not one but two clocks on a peel back block and spring Baker. He turned and tried to lead block for Bake instead. The two guys forced an incomplete pass. Frustrating to watch.

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  • Shrey Kathuria says:

    Very unacceptable. Not only the players should be running 100 suicides, 500 push-ups, and 700 sit-ups, Bob Stoops, Lincoln Riley, Dennis Simmons, and Bill Bedenbaugh should be doing this to. They did a horrible job coaching. Mike needs to make them do that. Lincoln Riley doesn’t know to run the ball. The Oline sucked and recovers were trash.

  • Jesse says:

    Need us one of these “fullbacks” whatever that is 🙂 https://twitter.com/maxpreps/status/773216412282204160

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    Nice Jalen Reagor highlight right at the start… https://youtu.be/rvAJw107KKM

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