Fall Camp Notes | Quarterback Battle & More

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You may or may not be aware, but there has been a decent amount of speculation with regards to who will eventually be named the starter at quarterback for the Sooners. I think it’s probably fair to assume Bob Stoops and Lincoln Riley have an idea of who they think it will be. But with all three reportedly still splitting reps evenly, no one can unequivocally state at this point which of the three will ultimately get the starting nod.

I’ve spoken with various sources, who have attend practices throughout fall camp, and if there is just one consistent within all that I’ve heard and shared with you here at TFB, it’s that this is a true competition between all three guys. I know, I know, you’ve already heard this before.

But I wanted to point out a distinction some of my sources have noted, that I think could play a critical role in deciding who the QB1 will be.

When you speak with sources nearly every day, as I have been trying to do with the start of fall camp, things have a tendency to change from day-to-day. Which I wouldn’t think is something that really needs to be pointed out, after all it’s a QB competition between three guys each of whom can make, or fail to make, plays on any given day. But even with the competition being a fluid one, I will say in recent days the reports I’ve received have been somewhat more consistent when it comes to the QBs.

– I was told yesterday that of the three, Trevor Knight had the best day of practice (on Tuesday). But when I pressed my source a little on that and asked if the “best day” meant productivity or ability to stand in the pocket and distribute the ball, I was told it meant productivity.

– I continue to hear from multiple sources that the best pocket quarterback, the guy who has the biggest arm, quickest release & most accurate passer is Cody Thomas.

– In fact Knight may have had the best day overall, but I was told the best individual passes of the day still belonged to Thomas.

Ultimately this decision clearly rests with Lincoln Riley (and Stoops as well, of course) and we cannot possibly know what conversations are taking place behind closed doors. That said, I did still want to take a shot at kind of assessing where I feel each of the three candidates stand, based on everything that I’ve heard in recent weeks.

Trevor Knight: I’m told Knight is the field general. He brings the most in terms of leadership and command of the team. He also brings the ability to make something happen with his feet and with an offensive line that could struggle early on, this aspect of his game could be critical. It also sounds like he has cut down at least somewhat on his mistakes and is playing within the system, taking what the defense gives, making a smart decision, and getting the ball out of his hands quickly. From what I’ve heard, he also looks to have a quicker release than in years past.

OU fans are understandably quick to judge Knight based on previous performances. But by many accounts he is playing well in this new offense and taking care of the football. Granted this is in practices and not games, which is clearly where Knight has proved to have a tendency to struggle. And while fans may write off his chances at winning this job based on past performances, there is very little, if any, chance of the OU coaches doing the same.

Baker Mayfield: He knows the system. He has a lot of ‘moxie.’ From all accounts, Mayfield gives you the most ‘highlight’ plays. When things break down, he has the ability to make plays outside the pocket. Again, much like with Knight, this could be vital if the offensive line struggles early. Mayfield, however, also seems to be prone to take more chances with the football. And while that certainly won’t always lead to a turnover, the two interceptions he threw in the spring game are a good example of the type of chances we’re talking about.

I was told several times leading up to this week that he just tries to fit throws into tight windows. However, for the most part, this past week he has done a much better job of taking care of the football. And now would certainly be a good time to make that type of adjustment as the coming days are likely to prove pivotal with regards to the coaches deciding on a starter.

Cody Thomas: Thomas wasn’t even in the conversation publicly — aside from what Stoops had mentioned at media says, which virtually everyone assumed to be coach speak but has ultimately proved to be true — until around Tuesday or WednesdayΒ of last week, when we got word that he had really started come on. The thing I find intriguing about Thomas is no matter who I speak with, I continue to be told he is the best pure passer. Which I guess shouldn’t really be a surprise but much like OU fans have done with Knight, negative impressions made have tended to cloud things in the mind of many a fan.

Thomas is the guy who will stand tall in the pocket and make the quickest read and most accurate. And while Thomas can use his feet, he isn’t as elusive as Mayfield or as athletic as Knight. The more I hear about his throwing ability, however, the more I think if he had similar athleticism as the other two guys there might not even be much of a decision to make.

But the question, again, comes down to what Lincoln Riley is looking for from his QB. From all that I’ve heard recently of Thomas, in terms of his decision making, release, accuracy, all the way down to his body type, he strikes me as the most similar to a Mike Leach type of quarterback circa early to mid 2000’s.

A Few Additional Notes:

– As we have shared, I have received several positive reports regarding the performance of OU’s defense through practices this week. Now there have been guys held out on both the offensive and defensive sides of the ball this week, so some of those positive reviews may need to be taken with at least a little grain of salt. Overall, though, it just sounds like the defense is starting to flex their muscles a little, or perhaps just getting used to practicing against this offense.

– Have heard good things with respect to some of the younger guys filling in on defense. The impression I have been given is that depth should not be the problem we’ve perhaps seen it be in recent years.

– One name I heard about yesterday for the first in a while was that of Michiah Quick. Evidently he has been showing up a lot lately in practice and is starting to emerge as another potential threat in this new offense.

– Unfortunately, I was told true freshman A.D. Miller came up limping pretty bad yesterday after one particular play. They wrapped his ankle, and he sat out the rest of practice. Don’t know how serious it is, but I’ll check on that. In general, though, it’s pretty common to have guys sit for minor injuries, aches, illness, or whatever, so it may be nothing.

– Something one source cautioned me to keep in mind with respect to this week’s defensive performance was that the team has not been tackling to the ground. I think tomorrow’s scrimmage will be more telling as to where the defense currently stands.

– Sooners have two practices today, scrimmage tomorrow, and I believe they will wrap up fall camp on Friday.

– Should also note that Austin Roberts has been at practice, but is not yet fully participating.

629 Comments

  • CS says:

    Hi ALL!! Life feels better now! πŸ™‚

  • metzker says:

    YESSSSSSSSSS

  • jmac says:

    “You may or may not be aware, but there has been a decent amount of speculation with regards to who will eventually be named the starter at quarterback for the Sooners. ”

    (smirk, giggle) LOL

  • Cole says:

    I honestly don’t care who is the starter as long as they can win. I want to see Akron get lit by like 50 in the first half and then bring the second guy on so we can put up another 30.

    • Sooner 4Ever says:

      I agree 100%. I like all 3 options at QB, each for different reasons so whomever gets the nod will make me happy.

      It may not happen, but I certainly hope we see video game numbers in game 1. This offense is often used by teams with lesser talent because it forces defenses to defend the whole field and can exploit holes and mismatches. When employed by teams with athletes of the caliber we draw, lesser programs like Akron should be unable to provide much resistance over the course of a game. Baylor and Texas Tech have consistently put up 70, and even 80, on teams like Buffalo, La. Monroe, and UTEP over the years with this offense. Akron, imo, is a similar team.

      I won’t panic if we fail to score 50+ given it’s the first time in the new offense, but I will be a bit concerned. Even if Akron has a good scheme, we should be able to score on 2 to 3 sustained drive, and given the athletic mismatches created by Mixon, Andrews, Shepherd and Perine (among others), there should be at least 2 to 3 scores where we exploit a mismatch for long scores. Add in our depth advantage, for 1 or 2 second half scores as they wear down, and we should be looking at 42 to 49 points as the low end potential of our offense in this game.

      Can’t wait for the season to get here so we can see if the O meets, or even exceeds, the hype.

      BOOMER!

      • Drew says:

        I think we might actually score on the under there, but I would put that on us breaking in a new OL against a surprisingly good Akron DL (they have a couple tOSU transfers if I recall correctly) that might give us a bit of trouble.

  • Jeremy Phillips says:

    JH has said on the Tulsa Animal.. That Orlando Brown has won the left tackle job.. The only line battles left are for Right Tackle(St.John/Samia) & Left Guard(Alvarez/Danley) are you guys hearing anything similar regarding the O line?

    • Zack says:

      Well that should be good news if brown won the job at LT. Still need a RT to emerge and hopefully the danley/Alvarez battle is a good one because we will need depth at guard.

    • Super K says:

      Was told that Brown was taking snaps at LT yesterday but had not heard that it was a done deal.

  • Sacramento Sooner says:

    practice notes…my day is complete! and it’s just started!

  • Jason Vos says:

    Trevor Knight- “It also sounds like he has cut down at least somewhat on his mistakes and is playing within the system”.

    No matter the system how do you explain throws like this? I just cant get such decisions out of my head sorry

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    • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

      I can do that, too. Open your mind a little bit. The humor you are trying to inject is stale. The bias you show is rotten.

      http://cdn0.sbnation.com/assets/3541967/techlol.gif

      • Jason Vos says:

        Call it what you want. But OU led the nation in pick 6’s last year. All thrown by the same guy. Baker might have thrown a pick 6 here or there, which QB hasn’t? But when it happens all through the season, then a pattern develops that becomes concerning.

        • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

          I am cordially inviting you to stop poking at Trevor.

          Your blind bias for Baker is a smelly cologne.

          As properly noted by K and others, Baker can certainly throw the ball. He is a good QB. So is Trevor. So is Cody.

          However, you have become foul stinch of bias for Baker and refuse to be open-minded that Trevor may have improved, that Cody may have improved.

      • Scott Moore says:

        TK9 would have at least attempted that tackle. πŸ™‚

    • Jesse says:

      I personally questioned the play call here more than the pick 6.. Although the throw should have never been made. Awful play call.

      • SamSooner says:

        Awful call and Durron didn’t do anything to drive the DB back. It was a lazy route. Plus, why didn’t he turn up field? He’d still be running with the ball.

      • albsooner says:

        I’m sorry Jesse, but you can’t put that on the OC. The QB stared at the receiver the entire time, he didn’t let the play develop, and didn’t make the proper read. In addition, there are at least at least 2 options on this play and the left side of the line blew up the D. If Knight would have let the play develop and made a better decision, including running or throwing it away, he may not have earned the criticism he has received.

        I am a TK fan, but can clearly see this has nothing to do with the call. That is a B.S. excuse. Every play that doesn’t work can be blamed on the OC using your rationale.

        Sorry brother…hope that wasn’t too argumentative.

        • Jesse says:

          No hurt feelings. we’re all entitled to what we believe and I certainly see both sides of this play so I understand what you’re saying.

      • SavageSoonerEsq says:

        One pump fake and Neal turning up field would have been 6 points. But I agree, I think it was a really really bad play call.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      That is as much on Josh Heupel for even calling that play

      • Jason Vos says:

        Agreed but the QB should be able to see the LB sitting in the zone, and not even attempt the throw. Not just throw because it was the play that was called

        • Soonerfandave84 says:

          I hate to say this, but I thought many times last year. The ball went to who JH said when the play was called with little to no reading of the defense

          • Bob Edwards says:

            Part of that was Heupel. By the time the play was called in there was no time left to get a pre snap read. I know from watching Perines highlights there were a couple of times he was still looking at the ball when it was snapped and that was because the play clock was gone.

          • Soonerfandave84 says:

            and TK was always panicking in those situations

          • Scott Moore says:

            I think TK’s game demeanor was hampered greatly by the way Heupel ran things. It’s funny, as a QB he was the general on the field. Leach gave him the freedom to audible and he did often and expertly. I have to wonder how it could have been. With Landry and TK9.

          • soonerthunder says:

            Heupel let the D sit there and MAKE SURE they were lined up right, AND call a disguise of their own. It was a very hard system for the QB to look good in. This system will make any 3 of our QBs look much better. I think everyone will be happier w/QB play this year. But, at the same time, OU fans will hate Riley at some point. OU OC = hated by the OU fans b/c some individual play was called wrongly, they are n/allowed to make mistakes, etc.

          • BoomSoon says:

            This is truer than most realize. Many times who the ball was supposed to go to was decided by Heup pre-play. The dude was the ULTIMATE micromanager who handcuffed his QBs so bad and confused the you know what out of them. There is a reason both Knight & Thomas looked lost at times.

          • BoomSoon says:

            Don’t forget on this play Heup called the exact same play the opposite direction and the D got to see it develop a little before the penalty…bad throw but man Heup was bad.

          • Bill Holder says:

            Exactly. I sat there and thought “No!” when I saw them come out with the same play to the opposite side of the field. I told my daughter “TD KSU” before they even snapped the ball. When it happened she looked at me and said “You are a prophet!”.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            And Landry after JH became OC.

          • soonerthunder says:

            And we (or at least some) WILL hate Riley after a year or two. One year only if we lose three games or more. ALL OU OCs are hated by the OU fans.

          • Scott Moore says:

            Trust is an important thing. I think Heupel meant well but ended up making his QB’s scared to make a mistake half the time. Then all the changes at the line of scrimmage that took the QB out of the game in a way. Seems like it would be harder to get in a real flow that way. And to do your own thinking. So thus you get a dumb play like the TCU pick 6.

          • D Hunter Sanchez says:

            Now it’s funny you say this. Because Landry J told a writer that he has taken awhile to adjust to the Steelers offense because in the last couple of years at OU, the play was called and he was told who to throw it to.

          • soonermusic says:

            The play as called, should have been a Handoff.

      • Jaymou13 says:

        Take a look at that route too – terrible – cuts out like a 10-day old banana. Not a sharp angle in that at all. So easy for a DB to read.

      • D Hunter Sanchez says:

        No. You have other options on that play call. Bad route as well. The WR acted like a decoy out there. TK panicked and wanted to get rid of it.

    • Bob Edwards says:

      What was the play call here? Did he have a decision to make? DId Heupel give him options or was that the call? We don’t know whether it was a bad decision unless we know what the call was and what his options are. He may have done exactly what his OC told him to do. This clip tells me nothing about Knight’s decision making. It’s a bad play, but whose fault it is we can’t tell without having more information.

      • rainydaze114 says:

        Exactly… one could argue that a lot of Knight’s poor decisions came from the inability to read the defense pre-snap because Heup couldn’t get a play in until the play clock was nearly expired.

      • Hartshorne Miner says:

        In my opinion at its most base level, it was the QB’s fault. I doubt when a play is called that means by default the QB throws there. At the bare minimum he should have thrown the ball out of bounds. Clearly I disagree with your comment about Knight’s decision making on this particular play. He had final control over what to do.

      • sracer says:

        Sure could have used a tight end in this play.

      • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

        Don’t ask those questions of JasonVos. He/she has his/her mind made up that Trevor is terrible. It’s quite obvious considering the number of times that she/he crowbars into any conversation that Trevor threw INTs/PickSixes.

      • soonermusic says:

        The play was an option call and should’ve been handed off. This was explained by the coaches many times last year.

    • SamSooner says:

      There’s plenty of blame to go around here: Knight, no zip on that throw and he ignores the DB; Heuple, the play call was not his best. He needs to study his plays and the tendency of defenses. Almost everyone jumps that route; Durron, what a lazy route. He didn’t drive the DB back at all.

      Finally, if you look at this play, Perine was an option. The OL blows K-State off the ball. Pump fake and toss it to Perine. What’s the rush. Knight isn’t getting any pressure.

      • Jason Vos says:

        Exactly, you just cant throw it because thats what JH called. Honestly I dont even think Knight saw the DB. I mean how on earth do u make that throw if you see a DB sitting in the zone?

        • BigJoeBrown says:

          IMO…I think this is were the lack of development came into play.

          I am curious if this is the play that was called after looking at the sideline until there was 3 seconds left.

        • Daryl says:

          I don’t disagree but I have talked to guys that were in that locker-room and that is not how JH ran things. You did what he said when he said and if you didn’t it was bad news for you. If it succeeded he called the right play and when it didn’t the players didn’t execute.

        • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

          Your unrelenting disdain for Trevor is old.

      • Roger Nixon says:

        You nailed it. Lazy route, lazy throw and complete lack of awareness. Nothing works at half speed.
        I do think TK is much better when the offense is up tempo so I’m not writing him off.

    • rainydaze114 says:

      So would you blame the last second int in the super bowl on Pete Carroll or Russell Wilson?

      • Jason Vos says:

        Dunno about the super bowl, but I wouldn’t have a problem with this if it was an isolated incident. But we all know OU led the nation in pick 6’s. So such decisions happened more than once. Are we going to blame JH for every time TK threw a pick 6

        • rainydaze114 says:

          Not every INT was on Heup, but every QB throws INTs. Heup himself threw 30 picks in his two years. JH was just terrible at putting his guys in a position to succeed on a regular basis, and that’s why he’s no longer coaching there.

          • SoonerfanTU says:

            Just curious, but if JH has success at Utah State, what will your comment be then? Surely he wouldn’t have went from a guy that couldn’t put his players in a position to succeed regularly, to a guy who could do just that, in such a short amount of time.

          • Krys Allen says:

            Just curious, if JH leads a mediocre offense at Utah State with poor QB play what will your response be.

            To answer your question, if they had enormous success I would be shocked and give him credit. However just judging by their spring game i give that about a 5% chance of happening.

          • Jason Vos says:

            There is a difference btw picks and Pick 6’s

          • soonerthunder says:

            not much though, sometimes just circumstances/luck

    • Daryl says:

      When you see that he is throwing that pass before the ball ever gets to his hands it is not a decision is a pre-called play by an OC that was dumb enough to call a 5yd out to the opposite hash on his own 3yd line.

      Sorry man but this one is on the OC.

      • SoonerfanTU says:

        There is no such thing as a pre-called play where the QB isn’t expected to at least make sure there isn’t a defender uncutting a play like that. None. And to suggest otherwise is simply you trying to bash JH b/c you want to bash JH.

        • Daryl says:

          Yes I was just waiting for an opportunity to bash JH…..false. Sorry to ruffle the feathers bro.

          • SoonerfanTU says:

            Didn’t ruffle feathers. I just think it’s down right ignorant to blame the play call on that interception. Knight doesn’t have to throw that ball, period. Even if there are NO other options on that play, if that man isn’t open you throw it into the stands. Period. That interception is 100% on Knight, and nobody else.

          • Daryl says:

            Appreciate the ignorance tag. LOL

      • soonermusic says:

        This is clarified many times last year. It was an option that should’ve been a handoff they ran the place successfully other times during the season from that Area of the field and elsewhere

    • SoonerOracle737 says:

      Bad play call and bad decision by QB. It is both.

    • JB says:

      Ugh…you had to torture me by putting that on here for me to watch again. Evil, evil man.

  • jmac says:

    “Thomas is the guy who will stand tall in the pocket and make the quickest read and most accurate.”
    = almost done deal then by my standards. not totally, but….

  • KJ1123 says:

    Knight = Leader
    Thomas = Passer
    Mayfield = Exciting

    I know it’s simplifying things, but I still think Thomas will make the most sense. Accuracy equals less turnovers (for the most part). I really like all 3, but I think Thomas’ style will translate into the offensive clicking better and ultimately translate into wins.

    • Super K says:

      KJ, you pretty much said exactly what I was hoping to get across. But you did it far more succinctly! πŸ™‚

      • Doobie74OU says:

        For a lawyer Super K you do a real good job of limiting yourself and not using words like “Succinctly” to often and us rednecks appreciate it. LOL!

      • HoustonChiver says:

        He just made cliff notes!

      • D Hunter Sanchez says:

        Love the work you put in. Did you mention that Mayfield was reported to have the best day on Monday? I still cannot shake Thomas’s performance from last year. We all but gave up passing.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      I think Mayfield has a great chance to lead OU to win where they might not be as good as their opponent, but he is also just as likely to throw 3 INTs and fumble twice in a loss to ISU.

      • KJ1123 says:

        I agree, watching Mayfield improvise and be exciting during a 10 play drive to win the game would be one of those “remember forever” type drives. But he’d give me ulcers watching him play too haha.

      • DBill says:

        This is a good point. I have had this same feeling at times. I also have this with the other guys as well

        • JB says:

          I think the bottom line is, we don’t have the QUALITY depth at QB that we had earlier in Stoops’ tenure…like Heupel followed by White and Hybl, or Sam followed by Landry Jones.

          • D Hunter Sanchez says:

            You’ll recall that Jones in 2009 didn’t perform that well.

          • Scott Moore says:

            Very true. However, LJ didn’t have a lot of development or at least game time experience when he was thrust in that BYU game. But I believe he was a Redshirt Freshman. I hope Riley finds a way to make that change. We need more mop up QB reps for 2nd and 3rd string. It seems in the past several years we are always using that time to try to develop our suspect starter. Vicious cycle.

    • Krys Allen says:

      The only thing I have seen so far that scares me about Thomas (this fall anyway) was during the scrimmage he threw a screen pass to his right side that literally bounced off of the defenders hands. Would have been a pick 6 if the guy caught it. So even if you are super accurate it still comes down to making the right read, and unfortunately it seems this is the part all three QB’s have issues with.

      • KJ1123 says:

        There is definitely that risk. QBs with a big arm usually struggle with touch passes.

        • Scott Moore says:

          Like Landry Jones if memory serves me correctly. Saw it in the first preseason game this season with the Steelers too.

      • jimintexas says:

        Cody was a RSF. This Spring was his first that he did not split with BB. I would not be surprised if it is not all finally slowing down for him and resulting in significan’t improvement. Plus, I saw Mr Bradford throw some questionable balls against Colorado. You have to look at a bigger body of work than a Spring game where he was probably #3 QB.

        I don’t care, but I give more slack than the others

        • Krys Allen says:

          What you say is true, however the play I was referencing was this past saturday’s scrimmage… which is why I was more concerned.

    • john garner says:

      Passer or Leader? Passer or Leader? I hope the pick is passer. If he’s moving the sticks and getting us into the end zone, he’ll become a leader.

    • Jeff says:

      Still worried about Knight over thowing the WR’s way too much and way too many 3 and outs

      • JB says:

        Overthrowing, followed by throwing at their ankles, then finally staring down receivers making a pick 6…

    • DBill says:

      I agree that Thomas has a big arm and can win us games. From what I have seen he still has the mishaps of throwing the ball into coverage, and in the last scrimmage really should have had 3 INT’s. These balls hit the defenders in the hands and they dropped it. He also had a fumble for 6. These guys all have up and down days though. I know Mayfield and Knight have had the same issues at times. I think Bob and Lincoln are the only ones who have an idea of who the guy MIGHT be. Interestingly enough, they may not. I do know that all three of these young guys can give us some wins.

    • ratman says:

      Knight has always been a good practice player, but when the lights come on can he be consistent and limit turnovers???

    • Hollerback says:

      I really hope knight is making quicker and better decisions. We have all seen him hold onto the ball too long at times, make completely wrong reads in the passing game, and never figure out how to run the QB option zone read plays. He also hasn’t shown publicly to have any feel for the pocket, even in the spring game, he could have stepped up into the pocket to buy a second or two but instead bolts out, giving the DL that was collapsing the pocket a perfect angle disengage the OL and to pursue, while knight sprinted full speed 40 yards to the opposite sideline only to through the ball away–wasting the play, wasting his energy, leaving his backside open to a big hit (like he got injured on last year) and risking getting holding call for the OL.

      I haven’t seen Thomas throw the ball well yet, glad he is doing it in practice. He at least figured out the zone read last year, which tells me he that his is more coachable than Knight.

      Mayfield thinks he is Brett Farve, when he is really Patrick Fletcher.

  • Jason Vos says:

    Cody Thomas is a much better runner than people give him credit for. I think he had over 100 yds against Tech.

    And he is very deceptive in handing the ball off or in the zone read

    • thebigdroot says:

      His play action fakes are much better than Knights.

      • BoomerDave says:

        MY play action fakes are better than Knight’s!

        • Jim says:

          I was gonna say something similar. His play fakes were horrible last year, and gave an indication, to me at least, that he’s not very poised, is pre-dialed where he’s going with the ball, and tries to force it no matter what. He was finishing the damn fake handoff before the RB even got to him! I mean, c’mon man.
          From everything I’ve heard, I want Thomas. Screw exciting. Screw field general. I want the guy who makes the fewest mistakes and can execute as designed.

      • Jason Vos says:

        Absolutely, he really knows how to sell it.

      • JB says:

        I had forgotten about that, but yes, he is quite fluid with the play action fake. He messed up the camera man at times, and had me fooled on several plays too.

    • Bill Holder says:

      Those are my thoughts also. I thought he did a good job of reading on the zone read and was effective when he kept the ball.

    • SavageSoonerEsq says:

      I agree with this! He made some really athletic plays last year (and some boneheaded ones), but his ability to run with the football was what surprised me most. Being a 2 sport athlete is nothing to sneeze at. Knight might be more athletic, but I think CT is plenty athletic.

    • Mark_in_VA says:

      Should have read your comment before posting mine. Dead on.

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      We’re not running the zone read this year. I can hand the ball off and make it look like I’m running a bootleg. Can he hit the open receiver?

      • cullison says:

        To be fair, we didn’t have that many open receivers last year after Shepard was hurt. Trevor really looked like he was throwing it bad – my living room still echoes with my recriminations – but the fact that we fired both the receiver coach and the QB coach makes me think we won’t see either of the QBs or any or the WRs we saw last year. [he said bravely just two weeks before being proved wrong…]

    • ND52 says:

      Good straight line speed but not nearly as agile as Knight.

  • Tex'ish says:

    Nice job K — most appreciated!

  • Matt says:

    guys…everyone calm down…the Sooners are going to bounce back in a big way this year regardless of who the quarterback is…BOOMER

  • rainydaze114 says:

    I still think Knight gets the nod for game one, but he’ll be on a short leash. Thomas would get the next shot over Mayfield imo.

    • Jofield says:

      I really think LR wants to put up points early against Akron so that they can pull whoever starts and give someone else some reps. In recent years we have not given our backups many reps that were not injury related.

      • Exiled In Ohio says:

        Good point! I think it will be telling on how quickly the #2 guy comes in. If it’s early, it means that LR doesn’t really know who his #1 is.

  • BigJoeBrown says:

    This is awesome and it feels so great being a Sooner!

  • WYOSOONER says:

    Does anyone know who is returning punts? I think Shepard could be great at it..but my balls sucked into my stomach every time I saw him back there (then he called for a fair catch and they dropped back down) Also, any word on how Alex Ross is doing in the new system? Just haven’t heard a whole lot

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      I’d like to see Mixon or Westbrook

    • Zack says:

      They should have used Windham last year since they rs him and then he transferred. I would like to see brooks taking the punts. He’s not expected to play a whole lot and I don’t want to see Sanchez or shep taking punts. I think quick and Humphrey could be good at returns but their hands I don’t think are the most reliable so I can’t see stoops going with them. Also I don’t want to see any unnecessary hits to any of our starters.

      • Jofield says:

        Normally I am for the best guy regardless of whether or not he is a starter but we have so many weapons that it does seem that they could use a backup like Brooks, Quick, Humphrey, etc. I really would like to see Mixon back there though.

        • WYOSOONER says:

          I’m with you on Brooks. That dude is shifty

          • BoomerDave says:

            And how good is Brooks at fielding punts? You can’t just throw out names without knowing this.

          • soonersd says:

            I don’t think anyone knows the answer to this question. I would love to hear Stoops tell us how many people he gives a shot at catching/returning punts during practice and who are the candidates he has narrowed it down to (if he hasn’t already). Would really like to know how much they spend and how many players they allow to participate in a “punt return tryouts”.

      • Cush Creekmont says:

        PUNT returner needs two qualities over other types –
        1) Catch the ball & don’t fumble
        2) Catch the ball & don’t fumble
        2b) A shifty first-step

        • Bob Edwards says:

          2c) Have a coach that will allow him to return the punt.

          • Cush Creekmont says:

            Bob, not a quality of the returner though – sort of like the punter not punting TWICE….

          • Bob Edwards says:

            Well part of being a great player is picking the right coach.

          • Cush Creekmont says:

            Ah, you have hit on something!

          • Soonerfandave84 says:

            Bob Stoops knew what was going to happen to the offense if Sterling got hurt.

          • Cush Creekmont says:

            Not till AFTER he got hurt the first time.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            Then why have him return punts? I guess kind of like having a zone read play where you don’t actually let the QB take the ball.

          • Soonerfandave84 says:

            things that make you go hmmmm…

          • BoomerDave says:

            Bob has stated that they didn’t have confidence in anyone else to catch the ball consistently. Bob was more concerned about taking care of the ball than return yardage.

          • soonersd says:

            it’s crazy to think any top tier team in the country could only have ONE player on the roster they trust to catch a punt. Not saying this isn’t true but just hard to fathom.

        • Cam says:

          I did NOT read that as “shifty” at first and was really confused by your comment. But, now that my tmeporary idiocy has passed, I completely agree with your statement, and I think someone like Brooks could do a good job at it.

    • BigJoeBrown says:

      I’d like to see Westbrook, Brooks and if they don’t RS him, Humphrey.

    • BoomerDave says:

      I’ve heard Baxter’s name mentioned as well.

    • CKill1 says:

      My vote would be Miciah Quick.

  • Mr. Jones says:

    Thanks for the individual takes on each qb!

  • BoomerDave says:

    Another aspect of this QB decision that perhaps no one wants to think or talk about, is what will be the attitude or response of the guy relegated to 3rd team snaps, which actually means virtually no snaps during the week. Make no mistake about it, one of these guys is going to finish 3rd. If this guys turns out to be Thomas, then I could see him looking to leave for greener pastures. I think that is less likely with either Knight or Mayfield.

    • rphokc says:

      true, plus lr has his hand picked guy coming in next yr

      • Bill Holder says:

        Exactly. He needs one of these 3 to do the job well til he gets his hand picked man on campus.

    • Jofield says:

      No coach should ever make a decision based on that though. That is just collateral damage.

      • Soonerfandave84 says:

        You can’t make choices to not offend someone. That leads to favoritism, and that’s no bueno.(Jay Norvell got several complaints of this)

    • Soonerfan1 says:

      Knight will graduate in December, which would open the door to transfer. Mayfield isn’t close to graduating and only has 2 years of eligibility so he probably would not transfer.

    • Brent says:

      practice team reps

      • BoomerDave says:

        I can’t see him on any scout team. I’m sure McGinnis or the other FR walk-on will handle those duties.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      I’ve thought of that a bunch. Not sure. I don’t see Knight or Mayfield leaving, for different seasons. I guess if Thomas is relegated to third string, doesn’t play, AND it looks like he’ll be the backup for a couple more years, he could bolt in the offseason. Not sure he would though.

      Time will tell, but that isn’t a bad problem to have.

    • Fear The Magic says:

      I think the #3 guy is going to be Mayfield and if so he’ll decide to transfer back to Texas Tech at which point BStoops will not give him permission to leave without sitting out one year.

  • Jason Vos says:

    Well if Mayfield is unorthodox in his approach and likes to improvise. Doesn’t that sound like Johnny Manziel? Didn’t we all want a QB that could do Johnny Manziel type things back when Texas A&M was enjoying their 15 minutes of fame?

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      I want Sam Bradford not Johnny Manziel…the closest thing OU has to Bradford is coincidentally wearing his #14

      • Cush Creekmont says:

        Exactly! Your fingers were faster than mine.

      • rainydaze114 says:

        I’d take a Johnny Manziel though… that guy made defenses look ridiculous in a completely different way.

      • rainydaze114 says:

        Plus we’ll probably never see another Bradford type. That guy was a generational talent. 25 to 1 TD/Int ratio is just stupid awesome.

        • Soonerfandave84 says:

          We can hope though, right?

        • paganpink says:

          Remember that averages are simply a measure of central tendency. You could have 2 more like him in a decade and still have the same ratio across college football. It’s like the “normal” or average high in weather. No one lives in average weather and it may have never been that number in 100 years of record keeping. Bradford won’t be the only great quarterback we’ll have!

          • paganpink says:

            And that’s NOT to say he wasn’t great- because he was, and is. But he ain’t the only one.

    • Drew says:

      When I think of Manziel (as a player, not a person), I think of a fantastic scrambler that could get it done with his arm, not his unorthodoxy nor his improvisation.

      But really, TK is a much better analog than Mayfield, and it’s not even close.

      • Brent says:

        Mike Evans was also able to catch a ton of jump balls that Manziel just threw up for him to catch.

        • Drew says:

          Oh, absolutely, I’d rather have Bradford over Johnny Fooseball any day. Just pointing out that comparing Manziel to Mayfield but not Knight is absurd.

  • wynwilliams64 says:

    On the OU Snapchat this morning it looked like Thomas either threw a touchdown pass to Brooks or Brooks ran it in (they didn’t show the play). I was able to catch Brown, Farniok, and Mixon in the video as well. I have no clue if it was live or just an offensive drill.

  • Lane Gilstrap says:

    I think that if we are giving awards for nice guy TK9 would be “the guy”. I think we need to look at who the best qb is for this offense. Who is going to distribute the ball the best to ALL the recievers and who is going to avoid the big mistakes.

    • rainydaze114 says:

      This sounds like if one of those Captain Obvious commercials was made for OU football.

  • hushnpa says:

    I really get the impression ( from 1000 miles away ) thru my TFB scope that the QBs are are having to raise they’re game as one or the other goes out and raises the bar the others have to respond . Looks like a very good thing from here , having three capable , more or less equal QBs all pushing each other . Looks like it could really help us .

  • Bob Edwards says:

    So here is my prediction for the upcoming season. We all know that the most popular player on the team is the second string QB. Well, for the first time in FBS history, at Oklahoma the third string QB will be the most popular player on the team.

  • Randy says:

    Guys, we are making a huge deal out of this. It’s not rocket science (see Dobbs at Tenn). This is a QB friendly system, yes it’s a system I know you don’t want to hear it but it is. Don’t get me wrong, it’s great it’s what OU needed but if you have watch football enough and his offense enough it will not matter who the QB is. What this offense or version of it did for Graham Harrell, Seth Doege, Conner Haliday, Jared Goff and Trevone Boykin will do the same for any of our 3.. Hell, one of the walk one might be competing for a starting job next year. What matters is the skill at WR/TE, and RB these will make or break the QB and we think we have great skill guys. My point is WHOEVER the QB is he will throw for 3500+ yds, 30+ TDs and 10 ints.. It’s how we score in the Redzone that will make this offense successful or not.

  • Exiled In Ohio says:

    I believe we should alternate QBs. Optimus gets the first series, Joe gets the next. If we get far enough ahead, then let TK or CT throw a few. We’ll call it LR’s Ground-Raid offense. As an alternate to putting TK or CT in, we could just transition from the Wildcat to the Bone.

    • SamSooner says:

      Funny man, you are. LOL!

      • Exiled In Ohio says:

        Well, I gotta admit it would be fun to see Joe in the Wildcat some this year.

        • SoonerOracle737 says:

          I wonder if the coaches would entertain this idea?

          • SamSooner says:

            I bet you everything is on the table.

          • Exiled In Ohio says:

            If LR does shovel passes and other gimmicky stuff, I gotta believe he would throw in the Wildcat some.

          • rainydaze114 says:

            Shovel passes are no gimmicks… they pretty much won the NC for OU in 2000.

          • Exiled In Ohio says:

            Granted that gimmick may not be the best word, but both the shovel and the wildcat are somewhat non-standard plays.

        • SamSooner says:

          I’m not ruling it out.

          • Exiled In Ohio says:

            So, Sam … from reading your comments I’m guessing you are betting on TK starting against Akron. Right? That’s my best guess also.

            Another possibility I’ll attribute to Jofield below: TK/CT starts, but LR swaps as soon as the game is out of reach so that he sees a lot of both.

          • SamSooner says:

            I’ve always been in TK’s corner. I believe in him. But watching Cody deliver the ball in camp, he seems very poised. I watched the TT game from last year, CT threw 3 INTs. He panicked on one INT. He played solid the rest of the way.

            I’m thinking it’s CT who will get the nod. I believe that’s who the coaches will stick with. Cody has more upside and we’ll have him longer than the other two.

            Cody just looks real smooth to me.

          • Exiled In Ohio says:

            Good points. I’ve thought that the tie would go to the incumbent, but you can easily say that the tie goes to the guy with the long-term upside.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            I don’t disagree with your point, but Stoops has generally rewarded time in system.

          • Exiled In Ohio says:

            That’s why I’ve thought TK was the guy. But I could see it going the other way.

          • SamSooner says:

            You are correct. But the changes Stoops makes won’t be limited to his staff, coaching changes, IMO. He has to live with this decision. Easier to come back to Knight if it doesn’t work out than to have Knight cost him some games.

          • Exiled In Ohio says:

            So, choosing CT is the “safer” decision for BS since his detractors would really fault staying with TK if things go badly?

          • SamSooner says:

            If it’s really that close, I say Cody gets the nod. From the little that I’ve seen, Cody looks really confident. They would fault him if TK makes the same mistakes and cost OU some games.

            What do you think?

          • Lesslie Stanford says:

            Time in the system has not applied to QB races as much though. Knight over Bell. Sammy B way back when.

          • Scott Moore says:

            Seems like with Sammy B they all had about the same experience. Keith Nichols transferred in and some other guy who had been there a year I want to say.

          • Exiled In Ohio says:

            Also depends on who’s really making the decision. Would you expect Stoops to override LR’s decision when the competition is so close?

          • Bob Edwards says:

            I don’t expect him to override, if LR has a clear favorite. I think Stoops will give weight to that if it’s a toss up.

    • Jed says:

      There’s a theme here somewhere. I sense it.

  • ouwooferman says:

    All this worry over the QB. I would prefer a Chorus Line D. 1 2 3 kick. The O will score, we just cant get into a track meet early in the season.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      Handing the ball to Perine, Mixon, and Ross 65 times per game takes a unique skill set

      • ouwooferman says:

        Thanks. My point. Pick the QB that will manage the game and let it come to him. If OU can field a D that can keep the pressure off the O, we are in great shape. My point is OU historically starts the season slow. UT is where we really start to see what we have each year.

      • Fear The Magic says:

        Actually if you want to get technical, Cody has the best handing off skills.

  • SoonerOracle737 says:

    I think there is a good chance that all three will eventually play some this year if history is any indication.

  • Cam says:

    ~–~Like this post if you’re a strong, independent football program who don’t need a starting QB.~–~

  • Jesse says:

    I’m just ready for the coaches to name a QB and end speculation. I know, easier said then done. Enjoy the weather today people feels AMAZING out there today πŸ™‚

  • Matt says:

    Considering that Riley really wants to rotate a lot of guys in at WR, do you think we might see
    him rotate in an entirely new group of WRs in the middle of a drive to snap the
    ball faster and keep guys fresher?

    • ouwooferman says:

      substitution rules will make the refs hold play to allow the D to do the same.

      • Jofield says:

        Yeah but that only effects one play. I think he meant, run several plays, stretch the field, switch everyone, and then REALLY stretch the field if we sense the DB’s are gassed are the next several subsequent plays.

  • ouwooferman says:

    A few years back OU was having the same issue with the punt return specialist. Stoops stated he prefered a stronger/bigger punt returner vs. the smaller Finch type. He felt the risk to injury, fumbles decreased with this type of player. Westbrook is my guess.

  • Tony B says:

    Hypothetical scenario #1:
    Mayfield starts and strings together a 6-0 start then blows out his shoulder in the second half of a blowout win vs. KU (where Mixon and Perine both have 200 yds rushing and we throw for 300 more).

    Knight then comes on to finish the KU game and plays spectacular against lowly Iowa State only to get beheaded, by Shawn Oakman, right before half in the Baylor game. This in turn finally gets cheap shot artist Oakman suspended for a game and Knight retires from football.

    Cody Thomas enters the Baylor game with a 17-17 tie going into half. He becomes the savior throwing 3 TDs in the second half and gets the win 38-34 in Waco. He is then anointed the savior of the Sooners and the QB of the future as he finishes off the Toads and Pokes in easy fashion and heads off to play in the CFB Playoff!

    • Cole says:

      You sir are my new favorite person.

    • metzker says:

      Id take that just dont like tk getting hurt from cheap hit oakman

      • Tony B says:

        I hear you, this is total sarcasm on my part. I never want anyone to actually get hurt.

        • paganpink says:

          Well. We are talking about “cheap shot” Oakman! Exceptions should be made for talentless bullies dependent on their sheer size to hurt lesser players with late hits.

        • Fear The Magic says:

          I dont want anyone to get seriously hurt but I sure wouldnt mind seeing Knight run a QB keeper and barrel into Oakman and knock him out cold.
          Poetic justice.

    • Lesslie Stanford says:

      So basically for the second straight year a 3rd team QB starts in the CFP and wins it all for his team?

      • Tony B says:

        What ever gets the job done, 1st, 2nd, 3rd string, or walk on, I’m all for it. I don’t care who is out there slinging it around. Just get it in the hands of the WR’s and RB’s and let them do the work.

        • Lesslie Stanford says:

          I agree. I just want someone to come in and distribute the ball around and take care of the ball.

          • Tony B says:

            Exactly less turnovers and keep the defense on the sidelines longer and I think this is going to be a good year. If OU goes negative in the TO department or even close to zero it may be a tough one again.

          • SamSooner says:

            I think the thing that will make the biggest difference is having an OC with a wicked imagination. I don’t mean “wicked” as in good, I mean “wicked” as in sick and twisted. An OC needs to be aware of what a defense leaves itself exposed to, take advantage of that weakness even if it deviates from his original plan. I think LR will be a mad scientist running this offense.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            I think the difference between the two OC’s will be that with Heupel you would either say “That was amazing” or WTF with LR you will say “WTF that was amazing.”

          • SamSooner says:

            That thing you did, I saw it. That was cool!

          • DrewChubbs says:

            I must admit…if we can get below 10 seconds on the play clock and not call a timeout, or not call one immediately after calling one, I will be inclined to say, ” WTF that was amazing!” At least early in the season.

          • EasTex says:

            We always called that “skull effing” the other team.

          • SamSooner says:

            Well, that made me burst out in laughter.

          • paganpink says:

            That was a micro aggression against skulls. I am outraged and demand you resign from, uhh, your tater tot throne!

          • EasTex says:

            Just rub some patchouli oil on your skull boo-boo, you’ll be alright. πŸ™‚

          • Walter Sobcek says:

            We have monsters in the backfield, so it would ne nice to have a Frankenstein in the mix now, too.

          • Tony B says:

            And one that goes straight for the jugular and keeps choking the hell out of the opposition. I want to see an OU offense that intimidates defenses again and by that I mean nearly unstoppable. I just keep thinking what Riley did at ECU with far less personnel and what weapons it sounds like he has on top of the ones we have already seen. Yes I know his team played against far less opponents but hell the Big 12 is not known for its defense.

          • Jed says:

            What did one of our players once say the goal was? Something like, ‘to put my hands around their throat, and squeeze and squeeze until I see the light go out in their eyes.’

    • Fear The Magic says:

      My issue with your post is that its more likely to be 34 – 34 at halftime.

      • Tony B says:

        I fear if this is true we may be in trouble again this year. I’m hoping our DB’s and their new coach handle them a little differently than 10 yards off the ball and run up and miss the tackle.

    • Glocal Sooner says:

      I personally am not one to call for revenge or like to see players get hurt. I don’t particularly think it’s cool to hope someone gets hurt, but I hope one of our players lights up Oakman in the game. I’d like to see him need help getting to the sideline and then be fine for the next week’s game.

      • Tony B says:

        I hear what your saying and my comment was purely sarcasm and hypothetical but seeing Oakman’s cocky, overrated ass being carted off after Perine leveled him would be something I wouldn’t be opposed to seeing either.

      • Jed says:

        I appreciate your Christian sentiment. I, however, worship older, darker, more Germanic deities.
        It would please me no end if Oakman lost his temper after being frustrated all game and tried to helmet club one of our players, missing and getting tossed. Then, raging around Waco the next week, gets into it with some bad boys and tweaks his knee just enough that he’s never really seen again in the sporting world.
        May Loki grant this!

    • boomersooner says:

      one issue, if we’re 6-0 aren’t we playing tech?

      • Tony B says:

        Agh yes I left out the Saxet game because I’m assuming that they decided they sucked so bad by the time they get to the Red River Rivalry they’d just forfeit. I didn’t want to feel like OU was a charity case so I just scratched that one from the record.
        LOL in all honesty I just F’d up! Good catch!

        • boomersooner says:

          just messing with ya. i liked your take on it. everyday is a great day to be a sooner and for texas to suck. and oakman will get his whether in this life or the next

  • Cole says:

    So what would a honest opinion of who you think will be named the starter from all the people at TFB?

    • ouwooferman says:

      CT

    • Bob Edwards says:

      My honest opinion is that I have no idea.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      my hope is Thomas, my thoughts are Trevor Knight

    • Sooner 76 says:

      Well, given that the LTs have been switched to the right and vice versa, I’m going with the left handed walkon.

      Just kidding.

    • EasTex says:

      Not my call, waiting on the Coaches decision which historically in a QB compo has been announced/decided about 10 days from the start of the season when actual first game prep begins.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      I’d rate them in this order as who I see as the most likely to start game 1:

      Knight
      Mayfield
      Thomas

      • Birddawg says:

        My QB depth chart
        Thomas
        Knight
        Mayfield

        • SoonerfanTU says:

          I’m just not sure the staff wants to start out least experienced and youngest QB. If you start Knight or Mayfield, and end up with Thomas later, that is one thing. If you start the younger player, and have to make the switch later to the older player, much easier to second guess.

          So for Thomas to start game 1, I think he has to be far and above the best QB option, and I’m just not sure that will be the case.

  • Mark_in_VA says:

    The thing about Thomas, even though he’s not as electric as the other two, is he *really* sells it. He reeled off some damn good runs last year, and on a couple of them he faked the entire stadium and camera crew out. He can do a lot more with his feet than you would normally consider for his size and speed because of how good he is with handling the ball.

    If the QBs are even, given Thomas’ offense and productivity in HS, I would give him the nod.

  • LLAdamJ7 says:

    Just curious…how many posters here created a snapchat account just to follow OU football?

  • Perry Dickey says:

    I’m wide open to the theory being presented, a new coach and his new system lends optimism and hope to the quarterbacks. But, can it as well be speculated for the secondary? Especially in the middle.

    • Matt says:

      The good news my friend is that the secondary has a new coach and a semi-new scheme as well!

    • Bob Edwards says:

      I think we will be better. The main difference is that with QB you only have to “fix” one player, with the DB’s its four or five depending on alignment.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      I think his biggest priority will be to fix miscommunication. That will go a long way, oh and the word of Jordan Thomas starting to emerge as a really good CB helps too

    • ouwooferman says:

      hopefully, lining up 10 yrds off the line on 3rd and short are not in the play book.

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    Another thought on the QB race.

    I wonder if Riley and Stoops will decide that while all three QB’s are pretty close, it is NOT a case of all three being really good. As such, they actually think the O might struggle some in the passing game, or be without a spark unless they start Mayfield, who, by all accounts, makes the best plays, but also the worst?

    In other words, the OU staff thinks the offense needs that upside to field a good offense, and will have to take the downside of Mayfield with that, and hope he learns to limit the mistakes as the season progresses.

    I had basically written Mayfield off these past couple of weeks, but if he ends up winning the job, I’m guessing the above thought process at least plays a role in that.

    • EasTex says:

      As to what the coaches decide I am ignorant and indifferent.
      I don’t know and I don’t care. As long as their choice produces I am well pleased.

      • D Hunter Sanchez says:

        I think this is the only real view that any of us should have. They get paid the big bucks to make these decisions.

  • Walter Sobcek says:

    So it sounds like there are two options, depending on whether the O line is porous and the QB will be called upon to run fo his life (which favors TK) OR the O line is stout and provides time for the QB to go through his reads and make strong throws, which would seem to favor CT or perhaps BM. Ok then, I’ll just wait like everyone else to find out.

    • boomersooner says:

      so it sounds like you are in the “anything but trevor” camp. seems to be a growing trend. since you think the only way he succeeds is if the oline stinks and he has to run for his life?

      • Boom says:

        K is killing me with these QB updates. Most of the posters already have their minds made up without seeing any of them in camp. They don’t have the knowledge of the modern throwing motion or footwork. I don’t care, whoever the coaches start and the backups get my support. I feel fortunate OU has 3 guys ready to go. What a great problem to have.

        • boomersooner says:

          yeah. i like the iron sharpens iron thought process more than the poop flattens poop thought process. and we actually all have a dog in the fight. the one who is picked is the guy. period

      • Walter Sobcek says:

        No, not at all. I’m just saying his mobility gives him an edge in scrambling situations. If the O line struggles early in the year then he might be best suited to creating big plays with his feet. I am not a TK detractor. I think he is a great young man and would not be surprised if he sees a lot of PT this season.

  • SamSooner says:

    I’m adding this thought to the this QB thing: having a QB who hits his receivers in stride is the difference between getting a first down or a touchdown. Nate Hybl frustrated me so much because he was always throwing passes behind his receivers. If receivers know you’re going to be timely with the ball, they will never break their stride. If you have a defender beat, you don’t want to wait for him to catch up. So, IMO, a QB with good cadence is more likely to be more successful than a QB with good rhythm. There is a difference between cadence and rhythm. One is in tune with while the other is in synch.

  • Birddawg says:

    “I continue to hear from multiple sources that the best pocket quarterback, the guy who has the biggest arm, quickest release & most accurate passer is Cody Thomas.” -K
    If that’s true, I will be very surprised to see any other QB but Cody Thomas

    • BoomerDave says:

      Problem with that is that K is not hearing that from Lincoln. He’s hearing it from “others”. Lincoln may be seeing things totally different than K’s sources. I am of the opinion that the coaches truly don’t know today who their guy is. I think it is that close.

      • Birddawg says:

        I understand we don’t have any information as what the coaches are thinking.
        But with that quote and the fact that Bob stoops as always said he wants his QB to be able to throw first.
        I don’t think BS would sit a QB with a superior arm. (all else being equal.. knowledge of playbook etc Not running skills)
        I don’t think its all Lincolns choice.

        • D Hunter Sanchez says:

          Well, if the scenario is Riley to HC…

          “Bob, I know what you’re saying about Trevor, but my guy is Thomas at this stage.” I don’t think you’ll see anybody but Thomas.

  • Sooner_Ace says:

    FWIW my take, OUr defense will decide who the QB is…..if we need a track meet to beat the other guy BM probably gets the nod…if OUr D can force some 3 and out’s…CT gets the nod…..just my take

  • KJ1123 says:

    I know it’s not a done deal yet. But I’m looking forward to Orlando and Oakman battling it out.

  • Bhutras Golly says:

    Based on past experience, no matter who starts, someone may get injured and the next person will have to step up. Think of two seasons ago and Bell and Knight. Good to have two more waiting in the wings.

  • Bill Holder says:

    Lol. At least someone is paying attention to what this old man post.

    • LLAdamJ7 says:

      I couldn’t stand this article. They made it out like OU runs this drill every single practice. To my knowledge we haven’t seen this drill yet this year.

      • boomersooner says:

        Yeah. Seems everything ESPN does now has to have someone’s agenda attached to it. Why can’t you just report sports and let old players and stuff give their take on it?

  • j l says:

    Ive long been a proponent for knight, and i still think he gets to start the akron game.

    That being said, I think id like to see thomas get the nod though. Hes a year younger, so would give us more time with the same QB. Hes the tallest. Hes also the least injury prone. Riley’s system is the one that best fits his skillset(still dont know how we got him to come, knowing we were gonna run the zone read).

  • EasTex says:

    I am rapidly approaching have reached exhaustion with the speculation on who the QB will be.

  • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

    To QB1: Don’t screw it up.
    To QB2: Don’t screw it up.
    To QB3: Don’t screw it up.

    To QB4: Keep the towels off the field.

  • Sooner Ray says:

    After reading through most of the posts today, I’m am really excited to see we are close to naming our starting QB. I’m thinking we will have it nailed down by late tomorrow. Also thanks to those who posted food pics, reminded me I haven’t eaten today. πŸ™‚

  • Brien Brown says:

    Here is my two cents FWIW. We start the season with Bradford at QB, he hands off to Peterson, and his lead blocker is JD Runnels, can play pitch and catch with Broyles, Stills, and Clayton or our huge TE Gresham don’t worry about our line it’s lead by Williams, Joesph, Loadholt, Ikard, and Brown. Our D is loaded, mean Harris and McCoy, LB’s Cody, Lehman, Calmus, and Marshall, secondary is legit Strait, Williams, Jefferson, Colvin, and Everage got it locked down. P we have a Way, and Kicker just let Hartley handle it, return guys Perkins, Thatcher, or Murray have you covered and the bench is just as deep…….Wait I woke up sorry for day dreaming guys. Been in dream land until season can kick off. On the real give me Thomas like his upside, and can never have enough QB’s just ask the Buckeyes.

    • jrv04 says:

      Ummm… 44 at LB! Just a thought…

      • Brien Brown says:

        I like the LB’s I got my setup is 2-4-5 like they are running now Dan Cody is the perfect hybrid in this D, plus Lehman, Calmus and Marshall played sound football and where hitting, wrapping up machines. Lofton is my number 1 guy off the bench to replace one of them.

        • jrv04 says:

          I like them also but a two-time Butkus Award winner and two-time consensus All American? The greatest (of many) in Oklahoma history and some say college football history? ! I just didn’t want you to sell yourself short! πŸ™‚

    • DrewChubbs says:

      Personally, I would take Ferguson over Way for the punting duties any day. He had more consistency and situational awareness. The leg wasnt too shabby, either. But that’s just my completely unsolicited thoughts as an ex-punter and kicker.

      • Brien Brown says:

        Fair point but which Ferguson? Blake or Jeff?

        • DrewChubbs says:

          Jeff was the better of the two, in my opinion. He had abetter leg than Blake, and I feel he showed much more during his time at OU. I do admkt a little bias because he was an OU guy his whole college career as well.

  • EasTex says:

    Look forward to hearing about Thursday’s scrimmage. Hopefully every one will participate, including those who have been dealing with dents, dings and bruises.

    • ToatsMcGoats says:

      Same here. I’ve been seeing all of the season ending injuries around the country and keeping my fingers crossed that OU isn’t a team that suffers from a major injury. Can’t wait for Sept. 5.

      • EasTex says:

        Yessir, so far only sprains, strains and boo-boos.
        Just saw where the lsu DB Mills fractured his leg in practice.
        If we could have one year like 2000, where we didn’t lose a critical player we might be able to have the same result as then.
        Every time we lose a player like Millard, Dom Whaley, Broyles, etc. etc., it just tears at my heart.

        • Sooner Ray says:

          That is my biggest wish every season….no serious injuries,

        • ToatsMcGoats says:

          Absolutely. Especially when you consider the amount of work that goes into being a student and an athlete. It’s devastating for us fans, but I couldn’t imagine what it must be like for the ones that actually do all of the work!

  • Daddy R says:

    Cody, Cody, Cody, Cody

    (think in rudy chant voice.. ;] )

    • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

      Winning. (subliminal message: don’t care who it is) Winning. (subliminal message: don’t care who it is) Winning. (subliminal message: don’t care who it is) Winning. (subliminal message: don’t care who it is)

  • OceanDescender says:

    I’m gonna throw my vote of confidence out there for Cody Thomas. But man it’s so close and I’ve come a long way from having no confidence at all back in January. Atta boy, coach Riley!

  • KJ1123 says:

    Another 500 + day for postings on TFB. Not too shabby.

  • Dustin says:

    Here’s who I want as OU QB in 2015: Whoever can master the art of turning around and giving the ball to Samaje and Joe.

  • KJ1123 says:

    I just noticed in the QB pic above. The QB second from the left looks like he’s 15.

  • Shelby is a Patriot says:

    I’m excited about this season regardless who starts. I think we’re in good hands whether it’s Baker, Trevor, or Cody. They all have more upside than not and they’re all good guys on the field and off. Sept. 5th can’t get here soon enough!

  • Jesse says:

    Anyone see the pics OU football just posted. It was Cody Thomas, case closed. Kidding I thought it was funny okay..

  • JB says:

    “OU fans are understandably quick to judge Knight based on previous performances. But by many accounts he is playing well in this new offense and taking care of the football. Granted this is in practices and not games, which is clearly where Knight has proved to have a tendency to struggle.”

    He has always been a practice demon. This is nothing new. He looked like the 2nd coming of Johnny Football in the bowl practices leading up to the Cotton Bowl. He’s had exactly one great game in his career as a QB at OU, the Sugar Bowl. He’s had some good ones (ISU last year, KSU year before), and had some real clunkers. Players make their greatest improvement from their freshman to sophomore year. That leads me to believe we’ve seen his best already. I like the guy personally. I just don’t think he gives us the best chance to win.

    I’ve seen CT throw in games against TTU and oSu, and the results were bad. Baker’s never taken a snap for OU, but he led TTU to an impressive start as a true freshman until he was injured, then had mixed results in games (as did every other TTU QB they trotted out that season). I like his confidence, players feed off that confidence, and I think he will ultimately give us the best chance to win.

  • Ed Cotter says:

    Thanks for the update Super K. Much Appreciated.

  • Nate Broadus says:

    If we’re stacked a the skill positions, then all we need from the QB is ball security.

    I just want whoever is going to take care of that football the most as starter. If Mayfield can curb his gunslinger tendencies, I’ll support him; if Trevor can stop overthrowing, or under throwing receivers, wasting meaningful possessions, I’ll support him; if Cody Thomas can show consistency and the ability to learn from his mistakes, I’ll support him.

    When you have Joe Mixon, Samaje Perine, Sterling Shepard, Dimitri Flowers, Dede Westbrook, Jeffrey Mead, Michiah Quick, Mark Andrews and the clique, you don’t need a John Wayne hero type at QB.

    I want whoever takes that job to just be humble enough to not put everything on his shoulders.

  • Zack says:

    When talking about knight vs mayfield I like to look at the stats and see what they tell me. Obviously the completion % favors mayfield by about 7% but his passer rating is only 3 points better. Then you have too look at how their numbers ranked.
    In 2013 – 2315 yards for mayfield was good enough for 4th in the big12. While in 2014 knight threw for 15 less yards (2300) and managed to be 8th in the big12.
    In 8 games for tech mayfield threw 340 passes which is 42.5 per game.
    In 18 games knight has thrown 450 passes which is only 25 per game.
    IMO they are both about the same (which is average QB’s). I think most are caught up with baker because everyone loves the backup on an under achieving team.
    I’m hoping for knight because I want to see him redeem himself and personally I think his numbers would be more impressive if he was in the tech offense where he was allowed to throw the ball another 17 times per game.

    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/baker-mayfield-1.html

    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/trevor-knight-1.html

    Edit: I said both are average. I mean both are average based on stats. I do think both have potential to lead this team in a similar way to Landry.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      I respect your opinions and your research but I take a different approach. I don’t think anything from previous years matters much. We are looking at two guys who played for an OC who didn’t appear to have an identity and one guy who has never taken a live snap for OU. Bring in a new OC and a new system along with some new weapons on the field, I think it’s a clean slate, everyone is on equal ground starting from scratch. Riley picks his favorite and hopefully the other two are close enough that there is no let down if something goes wrong.

      • BoomerDave says:

        Exactly! That’s what I’ve been preaching. Forget what you saw with Knight and Thomas last year. Different coach, different system, different attitude.

      • Zack says:

        I know I just hate the way a lot of fans dog Trevor and act like mayfield is somehow the next Peyton manning.

        • Bob Edwards says:

          Because he hasn’t hurt their feelings by doing something bad at OU. YET.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            Boards will EXPLODE the first time Baker throws a pick. Should have been Trevor, should have been Cody, etc.

        • Sooner Ray says:

          I like all three. Mayfield has to do something on the field first to get my support. Trevor and Cody were expected to be better if you put much stock in recruiting evaluation. Trevor impressed me that one time in the Sugar Bowl and hasn’t been dominant since, Cody hasn’t done much on the field yet. Please someone step up and carry this team to another championship!

        • Soonerfan1 says:

          Mayfield and Trevor stats aren’t truly comparable. Mayfield had his best games against weak teams. Trevor has faced much tougher competition. Even in the Tech/Baylor game, Mayfield came out gunslinging and he a really good receivers that made outstanding catches. Baylor adjusted and that all ended.

  • j l says:

    Someone just posted that the akron game is blacked out in oklahoma on PPV, can anyone confirm/deny this?
    Im not paying 54.99 for a stream, when ive been buying it on PPV the last 5 years for 39.99…

    • Sooner Ray says:

      Cannot confirm or deny but radio is still free as is replay hours after the game. Don’t get me wrong…..if I can watch live I may do so.

      • j l says:

        Do you know where i could catch a replay? youtube i guess?

        • Zack says:

          Hudsons is the place for me if I don’t make it to Norman.

        • Sooner Ray says:

          I’m sure there are many sources but I record every game on the Big Twelve no huddle show on FSSW.

          • j l says:

            Fox sports southwest got changed to fox sports 1 didnt it? I have the highest TV package, and dont see FSSW, but have FS1 and FS2, plus some other regional fox sports channels.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            I have Dish. FoxSW ch.416, FoxS1 ch.150.

          • j l says:

            we have uverse…had the wife check, and i guess we do have FSSW, channel 753 for us.

            I looked at the AT&T channel lineup and they didnt have it listed..guess thats what i get for relying on AT&T to have accurate info lol.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            I dumped all things AT&T at the ranch. We had uverse at the town house but have since dumped everything except the internet service.

          • j l says:

            Its either uverse, or a really crappy local cable company, for us. Ahh, the joys of a lack of competition lol.

            Its actually solid service, I just think they have gotten so big, its impossible for all of their different departments to be on the same page, and info disseminates slowly.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            Quick funny AT&T story. Friend of mine has a phone junction in his yard, a tap is ran out of it to a neighbor across the street for uverse. He calls to get uverse at his house and they tell him it’s not available in his area. He argues that a neighbor has it from the box in his yard so they send out a rep to investigate and tell him again it’s not available in his area. Nearly a year later after talking to several people in several offices….he finally got his drop the short distance from the box in his yard to his house.

          • jimintexas says:

            I have a pedestal in my front yard. Had one of the first houses in a new addition, about 9.5 years ago. They told me for 8.5 years that I could not have uverse. But for the last year they call me at least once a month, telling me I need to switch to uverse. I have resisted on principle. But, outside of college football, I could live without anything but local channels.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            If not for college football……I would have no tv bill.

          • EasTex says:

            There is lots of stuff I watch, especially the outdoors and hot rod shows.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            I watch other things because I’m paying but my wife has shown/convinced me there are many ways to stream shows we like without paying the providers a premium. As long as I have a connection to the sports programming I want here at the farm and have a DVR, I’m content.

          • EasTex says:

            I haven’t bothered checking into the streaming stuff. No live college football is a deal breaker from the git-go. Don’t care about movies that much, they always wind up on free tv anyway.
            From what I’ve been told some of my favorite shows are on the streaming services, but what I am watching now won’t be there for a year.
            For $71 a month for HD/dvr service, sports pass and high speed broadband I have no complaints.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            That’s a good price to get everything you need/want.

          • EasTex says:

            I agree. I’ve priced every one else and they are either much higher or don’t offer everything I have now.

          • ToatsMcGoats says:

            This is true for me as well.

          • EasTex says:

            I’ve had Time Warner for broadband and cable for ten years and am well pleased.
            My cell phone is with at&t, has been for 25 years and never had reason to switch.
            Not one day goes by that I don’t get an email or letter in the box from at&t trying to get me to switch to uverse. Their intro price is almost as much as the total package I have with TWC and doesn’t include the various upgrades I have now. The intro price is good for 12 months, and after figuring what I would need to add to have what I have now it would almost double my current service, and the TWC broadband is faster than the at&t internet.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            Cell service depends on your area of operation. We tried at&t and Sprint. Both failed. If you are in a populated area or near a major roadway they are great, rural areas…..not so much. I operate in five N.E. Okla. counties and US cellular is the only one that was able to provide constant coverage.

          • EasTex says:

            No what you mean. When I go to Caddo I just turn my att phone off, but everyone that lives there has some carrier that works there.
            BTW, Sprint got their name from Southern Pacific Railroad Internal Network.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            Interesting, I thought they were playing the speed angle. BTW, expect Justin to pop in with *know*. πŸ™‚

          • EasTex says:

            Uh…why?
            /edit

          • Sooner Ray says:

            I new wat U ment. πŸ™‚

          • Bill Holder says:

            Same here. ATT has a tower in the small, one traffic light town I live in but no att phone coverage. I switched to us cellular 4 yrs ago.

          • j l says:

            My VRAD is right across the street from me, and i couldnt get it for about 6 months after they installed it, and my neighbors had it.

            Im a bit of a nerd, so it was like hanging a streak in front of a starving dog.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      If you don’t mind me asking, where was this info posted? Hard to imagine anyone blacking out the biggest source of income for the game. Do they really think people in Kansas or Arizona, etc., are going to shell out money for this big match up?

      • j l says:

        Post on facebook from a guy that usually has pretty good info.

        It didnt make sense to me either, typically blackouts are for when games dont sell out, and that hasnt happened to us since 98.

    • John Garner says:

      I’ll give the 60 bucks to my granddaughter and watch the highlights shown later on Youtube. Or is it actually the entire game? I’ve read that that is the case.

  • JJSoona says:

    Anything new on Frison or Dalton Wood? Sorry if this was addressed in another post. I have had time to work, eat & sleep for over a month now.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      I’m no source but I’m hearing Wood gone, Frison maybe back early in semester.

    • Zack says:

      From what I’ve seen on both is nothing definitive. I haven’t seen any details on frison but I get the sense it’s academics. For wood if he’s on campus then he must have been told by the coaches he’s not able to practice because we would have heard otherwise by now.

      • JJSoona says:

        Dayyyuummm what’s with Wood? He’s about to blow a golden opportunity!

        • Zack says:

          Not sure if you caught it last week but TFB reported he was in Norman last week and that he attended practice the next morning. The OU football Twitter disputed the info but I’m thinking TFB is right about something because I don’t recall seeing an apology for misinformation and that’s not the first time their Twitter seemed to try to troll TFB.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            Just my theory. Dalton shows up suddenly, OU unsure about their practice numbers at the moment, tells him they will be in contact later, he has to leave. Someone saw him, tells TFB, OU covers by saying he’s not part of the team.

          • JJSoona says:

            Dang, this doesn’t have to be complicated!

          • Sooner Ray says:

            Yes it does until the first kickoff……then we won’t care anymore. πŸ™‚

          • EasTex says:

            Why wait?
            I already don’t care. πŸ˜€

          • jimintexas says:

            I agree. Until he shows up and suits up, he is a non-issue, as far as O.U. I wish him the best in the future. But, that does not require my mind-share or daily updates

          • EasTex says:

            He is just another young man that I hope finds his way in life.
            If he wears the Crimson and Cream then he is like one of my boys.

          • Zack says:

            I hadn’t thought about it that way but that does make sense. Either way it’s fishy and none of the pay site admin are slamming TFB for being wrong (publicly) so something tells me there is truth in what TFB reported.

    • Bob Edwards says:

      The rumor is Frison is trying to put the student back in student athlete. No word on whether that means he is ineligible or just has some work to do for this semester. I would suggest on Dalton Wood to not worry about it till you see him take the field.

      • JJSoona says:

        OK. Yeah I saw somewhere he(Frison) said the whole thing was totally his fault so I’ll guess he is working furiously to rectify.

        • John Garner says:

          Glad to hear he’s taking responsibility for his actions. Maybe if he steps up in the classroom, Bobby will give him a second chance as well. I mean it’s not like he broke somebody’s jaw and I’m referring to Dusty here.

  • Oscar says:

    Does Perine declare after this year? Probably should.

    • Bob Edwards says:

      Can’t. Has to be three years out of high school.

    • Zack says:

      Only if he wants to ruin his career like Maurice clarette. He still has to play 2 more seasons.

      • BleedCrimson says:

        I get the point, but completely different scenarios. Especially where their heads and hearts are at.

        • Zack says:

          I’m just referring to the fact that he would have to file a lawsuit to try and remove the current rule of “3 years removed from hs” clarette probably would have had a different path in life if he would have just stuck it out in college instead of trying to fight the rule.

    • Brien Brown says:

      Perine can’t declare after this year, true Sophomores can’t only RSSoph’s can and he my friend is no RSSoph. just FWIW

      • Sooner Ray says:

        If he’s your friend tell him we want him to use up all his eligibility and set records that will NEVER be broken. πŸ™‚

        • Brien Brown says:

          I was alluding to Oscar in my statement “he my friend” Perine is a smart young man, I think he realizes RB’s are not as sought after in the NFL draft as before so think he will be a 4 year guy anyway.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            I re-read the comment……commas are your friend, my friend. πŸ™‚

          • Brien Brown says:

            Yeah!!!! I just got in a hurry, my bad, lol!

          • EasTex says:

            One thing I am certain of, Momma Perine would not be happy if he left OU without his degree.

          • Brien Brown says:

            Yea for sure! I think Mixon is even a 3 year kid, maybe 4 but, see him being the one to bolt early! Perine, just looks like he loves it too much already!

          • EasTex says:

            From what I understand both are good in the classroom. I hope they both become legendary Sooners.

          • Brien Brown says:

            Well in theory, in 3 years, Perine would be a Senior and Mixon would be a RSJR, cause of the past season he did RS. So by that time he would be a Senior in schooling wise, he did attend classes even though he didn’t play. So that is my reasoning into him leaving in 3 more seasons.

          • EasTex says:

            He would be eligible after his R-Soph year.
            I’m just focused on what happens this season. Expecting a fun ride.

          • Brien Brown says:

            I agree he would be able to next season. But think he is smart enough to get his degree first. I am way to excited about this season, I watched the 2000 OU-Texas blowout last night and the OU-KSU 2000 game this morning and the OU-Bama game from 2 seasons ago tonight. Stuff just to get me ready!

          • EasTex says:

            I’ve watched so many replays the last few months.
            Watching last year’s wvu game now on Fox Sports Central.

          • Brien Brown says:

            One of my favories is the 2008 OU vs Tech game

          • EasTex says:

            Same here. Most electric home crowd ever…EVAH.
            I was also pleased to see Graham Harrell lose both times he went to Norman.
            He led his Ennis Lions over my Marshall High Mavericks in the ’04 state championship. The next year Matthew Stafford’s team beat mine in the state championship, just wish OU could have spanked UGA when he was there for some more personal payback. πŸ™‚

      • Oscar says:

        That is unfortunate for him. So much for the “free market” .

  • Zack says:

    https://twitter.com/ryanbroyles/status/634189628283686912

    This is a pretty cool shout out from Ashton kutcher.

  • Jonathan Taylor says:

    More and more I’m thinking that Cody is going to get the nod. Seems like TK and Mayfield have trouble with consistency but we’ve yet to hear that about Cody. Not saying that means that he isn’t having hickups, but who knows. Let’s face it as long as the QB in this system makes the right reads OU should be able to run the table since the only team I see them possibly loosing to is TCU and I think it will be closer than people think.

  • steveinok says:

    Here’s the problem with the QB competition. They wear blue jerseys. It’s like picking your shooting guard from a game of horse. Well not completely, but there definitely is a major missing component in practice.

    One other thing, we havent seen any of these guys in Lincoln’s offense. Everyone judges Knight because of what happened last year. Heupel was calling plays that the defense baited him into calling. Big 12 DCs cracked his code. TK9 was facing a stacked deck. And his receivers were running route trees that made very little sense. When plays would break down, the receivers would just dance around. When Sterling got hurt, it got even worse.

    Now, that said, I’m not proclaiming Knight the next Marcus Mariota or anything. Just saying maybe some of the bad wasn’t all on TK or CT. Maybe they’re better than that. Let’s not just hand the ball to Baker simply because we have seen what the other two can do.

    • John Garner says:

      I think you’re right. TK and CT are better than what they revealed under JH’s tutelage. I think, and I’m basing my opinion only on the reports I have read here, that LR is a far better QB coach than JH and that he will bring out the best in each. I also think that TK and CT are working their asses off because of their past performance. They know that they’re better too.

  • Baron Boomer says:

    Nice write up K. The only conclusion is that between now and game day we need to perfect a genetic mutation proces to condence these three into one AWESOME OU QB! πŸ™‚

    Regards,
    Baron Boomer.