Image of Caleb Kelly via fresnobee.com
– Reshuffling Of Responsibilities: Yesterday evening probably surprised a lot of you when Bob Stoops announced he was moving Cale Gundy from his long tenured RB coach position coach to inside wide receiver (and tight ends) coach. It certainly took by surprise as well.
Then I (Brandon) got to thinking about how Stoops paired Gundy and Lincoln Riley up on the recruiting trail not too long ago. I also started thinking about how most of the guys they were out recruiting were WRs. It all kind of makes sense now in hindsight as it was actually right in front of us all along.
Now, I’m not saying I am necessarily 100% on board with the move, but it does make sense on its surface. Jay Boulware is a good recruiter and has also coached running backs at Stanford, Iowa State & Arizona. So it isn’t a stretch for him to move over to RBs.
With Gundy, I was initially a little more perplexed by the decision. I have, however, come to terms with what I believe Stoops was thinking. Gundy is obviously a former quarterback and has also been coaching under some sort of air raid offense, or at least variations of said attack, since he has been at OU. He knows the offense and is clearly a great recruiter. So if you’re going to be throwing the ball presumably over 50% of the time, you better have some talented wide receivers to catch ball. That’s where I believe Gundy will be beneficial.
There is a chance he could be more of a ‘rover’ when it comes to practices, helping out with RBs and WRs, but that is just speculation on my part at the moment. And I’m expecting Joe Mixon will probably line up in the slot/inside receiver spot quite a bit in the new scheme. So, again, this kind of makes sense. Even if we can’t comprehend it right now.
– Caleb Kelly: I (Brandon) was able to catch up with the 2016 Fresno linebacker and although he wouldn’t name a favorite, it has long been my understanding that OU stands for him. It’s also not lost on me that he hails from the same city as Chip Viney, who just so happens is leading OU’s recruitment of Kelly.
In fact, Caleb told us that he talks to Viney and Bob Stoops on nearly a weekly basis and has close relationships with both. He also said that he plans on making a trip up to Norman for OU’s spring game. Sooners continue to be in a good position for one of the top LBs in this 2016 class.
– Spencer Perry: I also caught up with IMG Academy’s, Spencer Perry. The 2016 safety prospect actually spoke with Coach Viney for the first time this past Sunday. Perry said, “Viney relates to me well and I really like OU’s program. Definitely would love to have an offer from them.” The two sides will continue to develop their relationship, but Perry’s film is really good so he’ll definitely be a name to remember going forward.
– Dontavious Jackson: While there may have been grumblings yesterday amongst some OU fans with the confirmation that Tim Kish isn’t going anywhere, it’s never been just lip service that both his players and recruits genuinely like the guy. Case in point, 2016 LB Dontavious Jackson is a big fan of OU’s newly reassigned inside linebackers coach.
As a matter of fact, Kish is one of the main reasons that Jackson is so high on OU. The big Elsik (Houston, TX) LB says that he and Kish have a great bond and talk almost daily. As we’ve talked about previously, Jackson is also very close with current Sooner LB Obo Okoronkwo which is only helping their cause.
Jackson told TFB he plans to be in Norman next month for OU’s March 7th Junior Day.
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Kish gotta close on some LBs this class!
Man, you got that right.
Great to have an update on Kelly! IMO should be OU’s #1 overall target for this cycle. Would be great for Kish to also pull Jackson to get a stud MLB for this class too. Since Kish clearly isn’t going anywhere, just gotta hope he can give a strong performance with this class.
They’ve made him a clear priority for some time now. There is no confusing how much OU values him in this class.
Yes it’s been very clear how hard they are going after him. I just personally haven’t seen our “Big Board” to know if he’s officially priority #1 or not 🙂
Kish is also in on Brandon Ferns from Ohio. All would be forgiven if he got all 3 of those LBs
Ferns is a Monty guy more than a Kish guy. Monty recruited his brother to Michigan and knows the family very well.
Recruiting is a team game, I have no problem with it
Didn’t take it that way, was just letting you know that Monty is probably his lead along with Kish.
ah ok, i know some like to hold Monty getting DeBerry over him. Monty is an amazing recruiter
Nope, not that at all. I know Kish was out to visit Deberry late in the game, so he had a relationship with him as well, even if Monty was the lead guy.
Good point. No way Deberry comes here if he dislikes the position coach.
Monty had been recruiting DeBerry to Michigan, so he already had a relationship with the player and family. I don’t hold that against Kish.
Exactly. He has a good standing in the state of Virginia. He was the one who recruited 5-star RB Derrick Green to Michigan a few years ago as well.
That’s right. Produce and do something for us lately and we’ll love ya.
I have forgiven Kish already. We signed a very good LB class this year and are in on some high quality talent for next year. Kish seems like a guy to me that does not like the limelight or to be front and center on the big stage and that is okay. He does seem to relate to the recruits and is right there until the end on a lot of talent but seems to be having trouble closing. That is where the other coaches can help him. I do think he is a very good coach.
John Houston also said Kish was the reason OU was even a finalist. (he was always going to USC)
I do not know Kish and have never met him, but from what some of the recruits say about him I think I would like him very much.
I know Tim from his tenure at the Univ. of Arizona. In fact, he lived about two houses down from me. He is a wonderful person but even I was getting worn out with his recruiting at OU. I do hope he has turned the corner in that area with this current class but he needs to continue putting the peddle to the metal. If you knew him, you’d really like him.
when i see pictures of him, that is what i think. that this is someone i can root for. thanks for the confirmation. good to know he is one of the good ones and i hope he gets a nice little haul next yr
McGinnis said he decided on OU during the last ride to the airport based on Kish’s response to his question so there’s no denying that he’s a good dude.
I hope he can build on that and land more elite LBs…guys that will be good to start from day 1. I am talking about guys like Myles Garrett at A&M and even our own DeBerry. Looking at who he landed this year, I don’t see why not.
Unrelated fact : Tim Kish recruited Gronk @ Arizona…no lie
Stupid Question: What typically happens on a “junior day”
It varies by school (obviously), but this will give you a pretty good general overview.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/7561634/breaking-junior-days
Kids get to see the school and meet coaches and all that, but a big part is competing in drills to give coaches a chance to evaluate the kids and make offers if they so desire.
BOB STOOPS POOPS STANDING UP….. CAUSE HE IS A GODDAMN MAN!
Castorboy did you find a way back in?
WHO IS CASTORBOY? I’M BOB MUDDA EFFIN STOOPS
I think you’re Mike Stoops, always yelling!!!
I JUST TALK LOUD….
Please don’t encourage the trolls, just ignore them. Better yet, Jordan please ban the troll.
This guy is clearly joking
he made me laugh
From link below: “Players who we want to offer [scholarships] and are really close to
offering,” Oklahoma recruiting coordinator Cale Gundy said. The right
number at Oklahoma is about 25 for each junior day.
Curios to see Viney’s role next year? Can see him switching over to CBs and letting Cooks be defensive back coach while Viney gets CBs? He is a must keep on staff.
I would expect it’s very similar to the role he had this past season.
Can he be here next year (2016) without a new position? Next year(2015/16 season) is his last to GA right?
Since the 2016 class is gonna be a smaller class how do you think the breakdown will go by position? I imagine with them taking 3 safeties and 3 corners last year they will be more selective this year and take only 2 or 3 DBs?
https://twitter.com/Jordan_Esco/status/565171703223840771
If we’re speculating transfer. How many scholarships are we at?
The talk is we have 1 left just for something like this! Not sure there is interest either way but it is good to have 1 opening just in case!
He’d have a redshirt to use if he did decide to transfer somewhere. Is he really what we’re looking for at LB, though? I remember we were high on him for Veneble’s defense, but is he a fit for ILB in the 3-4?
Meh. I think we can do better.
I don’t think he translates to the Big 12 spread defense, somewhat stiff. Also how many scholarships?
sometimes football just isnt whats best for a guy…good luck to him
that is interesting….i remember when he flipped to atm, at the time…it sucked.
Apparently he’s just giving up the game of football, which I wasn’t sure was in that linked story or not.
We’ve got some pretty good recruiting and coaching experience on this new staff. I hope they can put it all together win something.
I HAVE HAND SELECTED THE COACHES WITH MY HAND…. WE WILL WIN PROBABLY GO ON TO THE SUPERBOWL….
Man i thought i was the master of hyperbole. A+ effort
WE ARE ESTIMATING PERINE WILL HAVE A TOTAL OF 5,000 YARDS IN OUR FIRST GAME. WEATHER PERMITTING….
That all? I assumed he’d have that by halftime
HEY THIS ISN’T A ONE MAN TEAM….. GOTTA BREAK IN THE FRESHMEN, GIVE THE QUARTERBACK A CHANCE TO COMPLETE A FEW PASSES, AND DRINK SOME GATORADE….
Coach, its good to have you around. You able to get me some sideline passes?
I’LL SEE WHAT I CAN WORK IN…. NO PROMISES
Thanks 😉
maybe you could fix your caps lock key, it appears to be broken
I JUST TALK LOUD…. PART OF BEING A COACH….
Glad to see all the Kish haters cooled down some.. Now we can all go back to being OU fanatics and start winning some games and get in that CFP !!
Would be great if kelly and Jackson would be early commits. We need some early commits at LB to cool the kish haters a bit.
Brainiacs: Any idea what will happen with Dmitri Flowers? Doesn’t really seem like he’d have a great role in Riley’s offense…could he possibly switch to Linebacker?
Do we eve know what the offense is going to be yet? Why would we be moving guys from FB to LB? If everyone is so high on Dalton Wood, as Stoops made a clear point to say on NSD, why couldn’t Flowers also be successful in a similar type of role?
haha ok I guess my concern is a little premature…I’m just wondering how 4 stud RBs AND a stud FB fit in a traditionally air raid offense
I’m not sure they do, but I keep getting told this won’t be a “traditional” air raid offense 😉
It’s like post hardcore new wave air raid. It’s really big in Nantes.
I think you may be right, especially as much as Stoops appreciates the fullback position.
I think (or maybe hoping is more accurate) with the talent we have they will mold this version of the “air raid” closer to the spread attack at Oregon. They rushed for 3,386 yds on 611 carries and passed for 4,354 on 436 attempts completing 302 of those for a completion percentage of almost 70% (69.27% to be exact) Their top rusher ran for 1343 yards, 2nd leading rusher had 711 yards and their next 2 guys had 511 and 398 respectively. Whatever we do we just need to put stress on the other teams defense much more than we have the past few years.
But what about Ross?!?!
“Do we even know what the offense is going to be yet?” exactly right. Stoops has always liked the H-back or F-back or multiple back, big tough guy that can block, catch passes, run the ball, and lineup just about anywhere.
When you have someone as versatile and athletic as Flowers, you find a spot for him on offense. Slot receiver to create some mismatches, and the occasional fullback play
Im hopeful Riley will create an offense based on the personnel he has not just drop back and throw 80 times a game.
I’m sure he’ll have a place. Riley was brought here for creative playcalling and a fresh young face, the offense will still be similar. I’m sure there will still be the heavier backfield pistol sets. Everyone should be thinking more wvu than tech. Which is what I’ve convinced myself. but I’m not even sure what we’ll see.
You guys need to also remember, Flowers was primarily a WR in HS. He came out of the backfield a lot, but most of his highlights were catches, especially downfield, instead of runs between the tackles. The OU coaches saw the talent and coached him up to be a hybrid TE/FB, but the route running and catching is already there. He could be the kind of piece that could actually make this offense harder to defend.
Im just glad the scrutiny of Kish is over. He isn’t a bad coach or recruiter. Besides I think he has been in good with more 2016 prospects then 2015 kids. I believe OU gets the best LB class this year because kids are going to see the depth and the opportunity to play early. And they need to give CHIP a new title as a recruiter.
Im hoping they find a way to keep him after his GA status is over. Not sure how they would though
Hes too valuable to lose. Hopefully they know that.
Im sure they do, thats why they wanted him out recruiting to end the cycle
I would to see him as the Asst, Director of Recruiting and CB coach.
Yeah I think you are right on path in that he will get a administrative job like Asst. Director of Recruiting till a space opens up on the coaching staff. We are at the maximum amount of full time coaches right now so they will do something to keep him around!
Im sure that Bob would liked him to be the CB coach but giving him a few more years under someone will most likely benefit in some way for him.
Oct 2013 article. According to the Tuscaloosa (Ala.) News, Alabama last year
employed 24 non-coaching individuals devoted solely to football (not
including graduate assistants) and paid them a combined $1.6 million.
Much of the energy obviously is devoted to recruiting.
The Crimson Tide’s support roster includes six workers who operate under a
“player personnel” designation, including former Nebraska assistant
Kevin Steele. The roster also has seven “football analysts,” whatever
that means.
In today’s recruiting world, I’m sure OU will find an ‘asst.player development’ role for Chip at the very least.
I havent been the biggest Kish fan for sure but I’m 100% pulling for him to redeem himself in the eyes of many Sooner fans. I have a sneaking suspicion that he just might do it to.
I also think having Mike as the OLB coach will help and also Monty being the Co-DC.
I get chills thinking about Perine and Mixon in the same backfield together.
are your chills multiplying? and are you losing control?
Never to early in the morning for a Grease reference!!!
Oliviaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Ha! Guess I’d better shape up.
winning games and the whole world lives you ; lose games and not even the family pet wants you around……same with Kish ……………
So who gets offered this weekend at Junior Day? Madre Harper has to be one…
Seems like he is very high on OU. Just needs to get that offer this weekend.
Mother Harper? Doesn’t seem like a good football name.
I think that Cale will not only be recruiting WRs but also be very involved with recruiting RBs as well since he’ll essentially be coaching them all ( or most ) to be slot receivers as well. Really its win win here.
I’m not sure that cale will do a ton of running back recruiting. Maybe as a secondary guy but I believe boulware is a good recruiter and will find quality running backs as long as he’s here and Im sure he will continue to recruit as a secondary guy. He was in on Stephens this year even though he’s not going to be his position coach
I may be wrong but aren’t the guys assigned regions to recruit rather than ONLY position specific recruiting? I know they’ll specifically send a position coach to recruit a kid as well but it seems to me they’re also assigned regions to recruit in, regardless of the kids’ position.
Could be wrong, dunno??
I think the region coach and the position coach work together to recruit guys.
I am one of those who has wondered both how we’ve kept Gundy around this long and what it’s going to take to keep him around much longer ?
So It kind of looks to me like Coach Stoops wants to keep Cale Gundy around long term and that both he and Riley are guys with a lot of ambition who probably plan on advancing their careers and being head coach at a major program at some point , probably sooner rather than later ( no pun intended ) . Ergo Gundy needs to learn from Riley and be prepared to step into OC position fairly quickly ; possibly as little as 2-3 years .
Anyway that’s how it looks to me – kudos to the commenter on TFB who already suggested something along this line already ( just can’t remember who it was )
I agree fully with this. If Riley can reproduce what he has Donne everywhere else here at OU he will be a hot commodity. When that happens I would imagine Bob will want to have the opportunity to hire from inside. Bob loves to promote from within as a reward. Some times it works and at other times it does not. Let’s just hope it works out in this case.
I really like Spencer Perry. But since you brought up IMG… I also want:
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3140343/highlights/175461394/v2
And since you brought up IMG and Smith, I want:https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Rahshaun-Smith-134673
If Kish has such a great bond or chemistry with recruits, then why can’t he get commitments from them? He got 1, let me say that again 1 commitment this year and I’m not so sure Montgomery wasn’t apart of McGinnis coming here either. We just fired a guy who was an excellent WR recruiter granted his player development was questionable but don’t tell me Kish is a good player developer either or our linebackers would have played better this year.
Kish is a massive liability and he’s Mike’s lap dog so he gets to stay. Ridiculous. This defense will not be better because Mike is still calling plays and using his crap schemes and Bob’s last chance to right the ship is this offseason. Sorry but don’t think because a couple of offensive changes(which weren’t the bigger issue last year) is going to fix our problems. Mike running the D is a liability. Book it
In your opinion.
His opinion is based on the reality on the field.
In your opinion. There were both good things and bad I seen out of the LB core. Was it scheme or what they were taught. Obviously Bob didn’t agree with your opinion, and I would say he knows something about Defense.
this is where i am. kind of the chicken and the egg argument. did the lb’s cause the s’s issues or did the s’s cause the lb’s issues. wright is now doing something different, meaning he is no longer coaching and kish is. bob and mike were both db’s in their playing careers, if memory serves, and have both been dc’s. i think they know what they are doing. so for everyone who is negative and speaking in absolutes, it leads me to believe they don’t know what they are talking about. one of the absolutes is “kish sucks”-why do you think this? and no, “look at the product on the field” does not cut it. how do you know this? because you read it on the internet somewhere? another is now “why would you move cale to iwr’s, its gonna suck”-again how do you know this?
there is a reason the coaches are doing it and getting paid handsomely to do it and there is also a reason that people are here talking about it. the largest difference in those 2 types of people is one knows what they are doing and is good at it the other, not so much
Considering we lost our starting middle LB (and the QB of the defense), I am not sure the LBs were all that bad. Looked to me that CBs and then Safeties were much bigger problems.
i would tend to agree with this. i think people were ok going into the season with uber high hopes. but it seems losing frank and then with the youth all over the d led to some ugliness at times. very excited to get to see what we’re building tho
I think last season we all got hyped up because of the strong finish and the media picking us for a big season. We still had a QB who hadn’t played more than about 1/2 of a season, lost our middle LB, graduated our best corner and our second best corner was a sophomore, and our entire defensive backfield was piecemealed out of young players and people playing in positions that they weren’t used to playing. This year my main concern is whether or not Riley can fill the QB slot with some reliability; he has said he thinks he can.
yeah. i think you covered every problem that i saw as well. and i really like riley. he seems like he knows what he’s doing, he knows what he wants to do and that he sees we have the guys to do it. if he thinks we’ve got more than one guy on campus who can lead us then so do i, because it don’t seem like lip service with him. what i want this yr is for every single position to fly around and just play like its playground ball. with the attitude and effort and without overthinking. every coach teach em up and let their God given abilities come out and play with aggression and without thought, just natural ability smacking people around
It is hard to disagree with this feeling from us fans. We are not in the board room with these coaches. We are not on the practice field with them and honestly we no crap compared to them or we would all be doing what they are.
I get the feeling the Head ball coach was not able to land the LB coach he wanted this off season and chose to go with what they have at this point. Kish likely has 1 year left to prove himself. We shall see.
SO because young men read this site that I want on our team, and because no matter how much I complain I know it will do nothing. I suggest we all get off the Kish of death and let it rest. Just my humble opinion.
Some scattered thoughts on the offense.
1) Lincoln Riley is not Mike Leach nor he is Josh Huepel. What he puts on the field will probably be different than both.
2) A new system means growing pains as players and the other assistants try to learn the new OC’s system.
3) A good coach recruits to his system and modifies his system to use the
players he recruits. It will take time to figure out if LR is a good
coach in this sense.
4) Some players that did well under the old system will not do as well under the new system.
5) Some players that did not do well under the old system will do better under the new system.
6) Because of 3 & 4 there will be some players we are talking about
next October that no one thought we would be talking about
7) Because they are on the outside looking in, some players will transfer
8) Year two of the new offense will probably be better than year one.
I think Durron Neal is going to do very well. Screens, quick passes, and crossing routes is his thing.
He was supposed to be very good out of HS. I think guys like Neal are what eventually got Norvell fired. Too many guys that looked good on paper but weren’t on the field. Points to either bad development or bad evaluation.
Agreed, early in the season OU used him on those types of routes and he did ok(not good or great) but they never stuck with what worked which is what got Josh fired
Maybe different coaching/system can change that. Or maybe the different position coach can simply motivate him to work harder.
I suspect we will find out our receiving core was not as bad as we thought.
I think things will improve with all the changes, but clearly the wr’s were having issues. Bob wasn’t even willing to let many of them see the field. I hope an extra year of work, new blood, and a reenergized focus on that position will pay huge dividends.
I think the issue with Neal didn’t have to do so much with poor performance on his part, as it was too much demand on him. They needed guys with other skills to step up, and when no one did, Neal had to try to fill multiple roles rather than just the one for which he was best suited. A difficult task. He made some great plays, but I think they were having to modify things to fit him and he was having to cover for lack of production from the other guys.
Neal has been solid. If he would have red shirted then he would still have 2 years left and would be building on a 40 receptions 500 yard season. Since he’s a senior though I would say he has under performed. But I think a huge mistake last year was playing him as an outside wr. I expect him to play in the slot and might have a good season if he can beat out and stay ahead of quick and the other slot receivers.
I would think you are right. I think neither Josh nor Jay did a good job of playing to a particular players strengths. Hopefully, LR is better at that than they were.
I hope so too and I believe riley will know the strengths more in the spread type of offense. I thought kj young should have been outside but I also thought Smallwood needed more balls thrown his way. But jay and josh must not have worked well together because the product never looked easy.
I get tired of watching games like Maryland and nc state caliber teams and they have guys running wide open, yet at OU we have way better talent (on paper) and rarely took the top off the defense outside of some awesome plays by shep.
I agree. Makes me wonder how much of our offensive woes were just a disconnect between Jay and Josh. Would explain a lot of the unnecessary timeouts, late plays and general confusion we saw.
I think Neal has the talent when he gets the ball in his hand he seems to just produce. But last year was ugly for him in reference to dropped balls, and errant throws in his direction. Goes back to player development on both the WR and QB.
It is going to be hard for him to get a lot of snaps inside but I’m hoping for his success. With Quick, Westbrook, Mixon, and Shepard there seems to be plenty of inside WR possibilities. Need to see who will step up as a Outside WR for next year.
I think Dallis Todd will have a solid year. 6′ 5″ and can run a 4.49 and that will improve.
I’m thinking that might be Alex Ross
Bricks for hands.
I think losing our Offensive Identity lead to the firing of Heupel & Norvell. Can’t teach or develop guys to do anything if your are not sure or confident in what you want to do! They just look lost several times over the past few years like they couldn’t believe their plan wasn’t working! Hopefully having a clear picture of what we want to do and how we want to do it will lead to better production from all our players!
Too many times last year we just looked confused. I thought much of or QB problems might have stemmed from lack of confidence in the play calling.
taking too long to get a play called happened WAY too often
Knight threw interceptions basically against the same coverage does not consider the LB in the lanes.
Manning or Brady have thrown some great balls to LBs, it happens. Pointing out that TK only throws to LBs is nonsense. This isn’t to support TK as it is for all QBs who throw across the middle will get them picked at one point or another.
You hit on a key issue. We did looked confused a lot, and that boils down to coaching. If players are looking confused in games, then it was happening in practice. The coaches either ignored the issue, or assumed it would clear itself up by gameday. Either way, that’s coaching. THAT’S why I’m excited to see what the offense looks like under new management.
Or wrong system…just sayin.
He was my favorite recruit coming out of hs
he was one of the first to recruit other players using twitter right?
I think he can if Simmons can teach him a little about separation. That’s the one thing I think he lacks.
I don’t expect many growing pains do to “learning the system”. OU and most of our assistants aren’t that far removed from chucking it around 40+ times a game. And what we’ve been running isn’t all that far off in a lot of ways either. Sure there will be some technique stuff to learn, different route trees for WR’s and reads for QB’s, but outside of learning the plays, I just don’t see a big curve.
I hope you are wrong about the amount of differences. There is an old saying that you could put lipstick on a pig and it is still a pig. Hope we aren’t just changing the color of lipstick.
Football is football. We aren’t going from the wishbone to the air raid. You’ll see more spread, certainly, but it’s not going to look all that different then what we did with Landry. Hopefully, we’ll just be doing it better/stronger/cleaner. There are only so many formations and routes you can run. We’re not inventing something college football hasn’t ever seen.
And this isn’t directed at you, but for those of you afraid that we’re going to lose our run game, keep in mind, plenty of spread teams, or air raid teams, or whatever you want to call it, have had successful running attacks. Including OU with Q and Murray. Baylor recently. WVU. It can be done.
I hope your right. I just have heard stories of coaching changes where everything looked the same on the outside but the nomenclature and fine points of the system were different enough that it took time for the players to get adjusted.
Looking at Riley’s record at ECU he had 1000 yard rusher year before last and would have had this year, but didn’t due to an injury. The film I’ve watched of ECU’s offense is “pass happy”, but not to the degree of a WSU team under Leach.
I don’t think it’s concepts as much as it is match-ups. Passing is passing, running is running. I am not/was not a Heupel hater, but sometimes he didn’t use the plays in his system at the right time for the opponent. Hopefully, Riley has a better feel for the match-up portion of the game.
Agree. Gundy at OU since the beginning under Leach so is familiar with the offense. Simmons has done nothing but…same with Bedenbaugh at Tech and WVU. This is going to be Pirate 3.1
Riley has already said that the concept of his system is more like Holgorsen than Leach.
Yep, took TCU a whole season to figure out their new offense. If they don’t see some improvement next year, Cumbie and Meachum might be in trouble….
Nowadays, with the talent and coaching, the old delays or limited expectations just don’t fly.
Ex. 1. As you pointed out, TCU scored like crazy in their first year, with a much less running attack than OU has. 2. OSU Bucks won the freaking title with a third stringer! No excuses, the offense is being put in now. The players have the Playbook etc…I’m expecting a strong offense. With all the mistakes and coaching errors this team averaged 36…next year should be an improvement.
No doubt. TCU went from having one of the worst offenses in college football to having one of the best in less than 12 months. OU’s offense last season wasn’t terrible, just inefficient. I expect noticeable, if not vast improvement in scoring efficiency with the talent we have on hand and an offensive coordinator with a clue. Anything less would be a great disappointment. No excuses.
I suppose you recall in 1970 when the wishbone was put in and the O struggled. Then in 71, records were set. But nowadays those tempered expectations just don’t get it done. They need to be better than last year and I see no reason why they shouldn’t be. No excuses.
It will be interesting to see how many position changes will occur. Along with the differences in recruiting.
I would think Stanvon would want to try to switch to slot receiver if he doesn’t get the reps at corner… or transfer.
Could see a few CB and WR transfer after Spring Practice shacks out!
Have they bid on the 2016 location of the Championship game?
Everyone was upset when Jordan flipped to A&M, frankly he hasn’t been much of a contributor for them & now he’s done altogether..
@skhanjr: Texas A&M announces LB Jordan Mastrogiovanni & WR Kyrion Parker left the team. Mastro will continue school at A&M; Parker will transfer.
Wow.
Double wow but he did play quite a bit at A&M. I imagine he’s being forced out by the other LBs.. #swag
#swagcopter
Add another to the list of guys OU fans thought were ‘must gets’ who didn’t make a difference. Waiting to see what Mike Mitchell does at Tech.
Sorry if this was already asked. What is the names of some of the RB’s Boulware has coached?
Mike Bell at Arizona is the only one that comes to mind of any signifignace
Thanks. I couldn’t think of any.
Yep Mike Bell is the only prominent RB I could find under his tutelage
Google his name and look up his coaching dates on said staffs.
At work. If I had time I would. But thanks.
You let work take priority over Sooner stuff??
Anyone heard how Marcus Dupree is doing?
Billy Vessels, Steve Owens, Greg Pruitt, Joe Washington, Billy Sims, Kenny King, Anthony Stafford, Horace Ivory, Elvis Peacock, Lydell Carr, Mike Gaddis, Demond Parker, Gerald Moore, Chris Brown, James Allen, Stanley Wilson, David Overstreet, Leon Crosswhite, Quentin Griffin, Jermaine Fazande, Spencer Tillman, Earl Johnson, Renaldo Works, Kejuan Jones, Allen Patrick, DeMarco Murray, Adrian Peterson, Jacob Guiterez, Kenyon Rasheed, Dewell Brewer, J.D. Runnels, Marcus Dupree, Patrick Collins…
Just wanted to bring some great memories back since it’s a little slow right now- add ’em if you’ve got more.
Reggie Skinner. Man I wish he would have gotten to spend more time with Bob.
Go ahead and throw Samaje on there too
Marcus Dupree
edit: Oops! saw him at the bottom after I posted
he’s up there
Dominque Waley – great story, had that great year.
Soonerdave – David Smith,TD probably one of the highlights of the season.
I’ll go with Leon Perry since I Oops my last one!
Brennan Clay, Joe Wylie
How could I forget Brennan? One of my faves, a lot of heart that kid.
mine too
Roy Bell, Joe Wylie, Joe Don Looney, Buster Rymes, Waymon Clark, Ron Shotts, Mike & Gary Harper.
Love the stories of Joe Don
He marched to his own beat, that’s for sure.
Trey Millard
Aaron Ripkowski
Mossis Madu
Forgot Rip and Mossis- Trey’s there
Also wished we could have found a better way to utilize Roy Finch! Probably would have been real good in our new offense!
Oh, heck yeah- forgot Finch as well- we did pretty much waste that talent, I agree.
Jim Grisham, 107 yards against Bear Bryant’s Alabama. Joe Don Looney. Clendon Thomas.
Grisham was a good one. Pretty sure he was one of three who were ruled ineligible for a bowl game due to signing with an agent or AFL contract. The others, I believe, were Carl McAdams and Ralph Neely.
I’ll never forget the contributions of Brandon Wegher…
What about Joe Wylie 71,
Love the list. So, what are you saying? No WR’s here. An AirRaid critic? Ha.
Matt Clapp, Seth Littrell
Any WR? Eddie Hinton, Tinker Owens, Billy Brooks, Steve Rhoades, Derrick Shepard, Mark Clayton, Mark Bradley etc…
Steve Sewell
Wow, can’t believe this many of us missed that one. I knew there was somebody missing in that era, but couldn’t figure out who.
He is the one who gets lost in the shuffle of backs from the 80s
What a great career with Denver.
Yep, I am a Chiefs fan but used to use Denver in Tecmo Super Bowl just to use him
Chiefs fan since 1970 also. Hated the donkeys. But like Sewell.
Buster Rhymes.
Can’t forget about Buster “the man with luster” on the flea flicker to win the game against Nebraska. I will throw Buck McPhail , All-American to played along side Vessels.
We all forgot about Tommy McDonald too!
Yeah, ol Tommy Mac was special in those years.
Many feel he would’ve won the Heisman had it not been for Jerry Tubbs splitting the votes their senior year.
Wahoo McDaniel. Love the name. Became a pro wrestler.
Lucious, Lee Roy, and Dewey Selmon. George Cumby. Monster D, those guys brought it.
Bobby Warmack, Jack Mildren.
I was only naming RB’s but yeah, those were definitely great Sooners.
Paul and Phil Tabor.
After his NFL days, Paul owned the Kettle Restaurant in Ardmore at the main interchange with I-35. Changed the restaurant name, if anybody knows it. Been a while.
Dewell Brewer . . . . that’s a name I haven’t heard in years.
So now there is a DB coach in place can Viney still recruit kids?
Not off campus like he was prior to Cooks’ hiring, but otherwise yes he can absolutely still recruit kids
Okay, can he also call the kids?
yep
Mixon running plays like Blue Right 8 (F-Shoot), Ace Rip Arc, or Blue Right Flip 617 Switch could be interesting.
http://www.footballxos.com/download/offense/college-offense/1999-Oklahoma-Air-Raid-Mike-Leach.pdf
Super ref. Thanks for the link. Added to bookmarks. Will see how it evolves.
Awesome. Thanks for posting.
Nic Roller, RB out of Bixby 6′ 230 2026 rushing yards 33 TDs 15 catches 259 yards 3 TDs.
Related to Shane Roller, 4 time (I think) state champ rassler out of Bixby back in 1996 or so?
I think all the Rollers in Bixby are related….and there’s a bunch of them!
Does anyone know of any players that are preferred walk-ons or trying to walk-on to OU?
Aaron Sims WR/KR Cameron Yoe 5’5 135
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/509852/highlights/224030378/v2
Lee Morris 6’1 200 WR was a prime target of Kyler Murray. Dad former OU walkon.
I can’t think of the names, but there’s at least 3 kids that are really solid looking prospects.
I believe a QB also
Getting ahead of myself but that March 7th JR Day is shaping up as a big day with the start of spring ball that day and Kansas at OU BB. Will be a fun one.
Key phrase: “start of spring ball.”
Any word about how Mixon looked during winter workouts?
By all accounts he stayed in great shape working out on his own. Cale said he’s like a caged tiger so my guess is he’s ready to get after it.
yep https://thefootballbrainiacs.com/ou-oklahoma-sooners-football-recruiting-dwayne-haskins-joe-mixon-mike-williams-christian-daniels
Awesome. Appreciate it Jordan. Guess I missed that one.
no worries 🙂
ESPN has us as the #1 “trending down” team post NSD. Despite a very solid class, and what i feel to be upgrades at 3 coaching positions.
Can almost guarantee we do well now, ESPN dosent know their ass from a hole in the ground.
ESPN = Agenda
That’s why I don’t read their crap. With all of the negative media and fan talk about the program, I hope the players and staff use it for motivation this year.
Well like you said that all but guarantees a better year next year.
Its sure seemed to work that way lately. All good, like to see them eat some crow.
They hope. Bob has been a burr in their butt for a while now. Cracks in the sec veneer.
Its funny how they pump TCU and baylor though. Not even big 12 hate like it used to be, now its all on us.
I also found it funny that they listed South Carolina on that list of programs that have “stalled.” Prior to this year Sc had three straight 11-2 seasons. That’s pretty darn good if you ask me. They have one bad year in which they had to replace half of their defensive starters from the year prior, and now they are in decline? But like you said this all but guarantees a good season for ou. These guys always seem to feed off of the underdog role. Next season can’t get here fast enough for me. Boomer sooner!
They dont even want to know if bob has righted the ship before they declare us sinking.
I sure wouldnt ever say a coach as good as spurrier cant turn things around either.
EsecSPiN (fify)
SECSPN
I don’t disagree with the fact that the program has been slipping. I do agree that we’re better than advertised, but because of our shortcomings, it is what it is.
I cant disagree with any of that, but saying we are trending down, and then sticking a UT team who didnt even muster 60 yards of offense vs arkansas in the top 25..its just mind boggling.
They don’t have a vested interest in OU, thy do in texass.
You know, I can’t get a feel for how UT is going to be. They’re either going to be pretty sweet this coming year, or same ol’ same ol’.
Jack Santee
That’s going way back.
My Mama says that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.
Toll please
i could be alone here, but i do not find this whole thing you’re doing to be funny. like, at all.
Delete the post if you can. It adds nothing to TFB.
I didn’t mean to offend… its just my strategy’s and tactics are more suited for feild….
I appreciate you saying that. Now that you know that what you’re doing is getting old, on your first day posting, do you plan to keep your contribution to the discussions above board?
definitely I’m Bob Stoops!
Welcome, Bob!
recommend keep that day job
Sorry but your post does offend.
I sincerely apologize.
No sweat. I tried humor once.
I was just trying to bring some humor into the mix…
If you’re looking for illustrations of good humor, EasTex, Toats, Exiled, and Boomer Sooner are good examples of classy humor.
By the way, welcome to TFB.
hey thanks. i appreciate it. i try my best. some people have milkshakes that bring all the boys to the yard. others have to work a little harder cause we don’t have that natural talent
You are welcome Boomer. I always enjoy seeing and reading your posts.
I believe Cale is the one that got us to flip Broyles in the 11th hour…he’ll be a fine IWR coach and recruiter
I seen where Tren’Davian Dickson decommitted from Baylor…go get him Cale and Dennis
Wasn’t Jordan Mastrogiovanni interested in OU?
Former commit that flipped to aggie at the last moment.
Yes leaving aTm
staying at a&m. giving up football.
how much longer can we keep viney as a GA? I believe his time is about up and since we hired cooks to coach DBs, will he even be around for another full year to recruit kelly?
25 more days … it’s killing me
gonna be interesting when Sooners take the field agin no tellin’ wot were gonna see
We lost Monty to the Packers 🙁
THIS SUUUUUUUCKKSS
So I just saw that Jerry Montgomery is gone to the NFL. Stoops already announced. I apologize if it’s already on here. My goodness. Good for him, bad for us. We need another like him or more.
This just sucks
FFFFFFFFF-UCK ME RUNNING!!!! Seriously the Hell?!?! Why wait till now to say “oh by the way I’m leaving after being named co-DC.”
Welp
This. Is. Awful. This should be a good time, new coaches and energy, now we lose our best coach/recruiter
Anyone else feel like they just got punched in the stomach? Montgomery was a great recruiter for us.
Try kicked in the nuts. Repeatedly.
The nuts, the guts, the neck. You name it, I feel like it. This sucks
I don’t have nuts and I feel ’em kicked…
WOW, what a blow to the OU football program!
o.k. everybody that said “big programs should hire away our coaches to prove we have the hot talented rising stars” – you just got your wish!
This proves further that OU is THE plum job in college coaching . . . Bob will grab another great talent. (But I’d druther Monty stuck around to get that NT)
Also this is a good place to say, “Choose a school, not a coach”.
Anyone else ever think of Ross playing defense with his size and speed? Maybe crazy. Just crossed my mind a few times.