Open Post | Monday, Oct. 27th
Posted on: October 27, 2014
Image of Tipa Galeai via Star-Telegram
Got a couple quick notes for y’all this morning.
– Cameron Townsend: Not a huge surprise but 2015 LB Cameron Townsend did end up selecting Texas over Oklahoma yesterday. This one always felt like the Horns, but there were some in the Texas recruiting circles that were a little worried when Towsnend moved his announcement date up after the visit to Oklahoma.
Cameron told us that Texas wants him at the WILL. Why is this significant? Because it means they still has a spot for Anthony Wheeler. We’ve been told that Texas needs a MIKE and presumably Wheeler would fit that spot.
– Lousiana Duo: One name we introduced y’all to a couple weeks back is LB Dwaine Thomas out of Boutte, Louisiana. As we mentioned in the Weekend OP, OU has been in touch with the coaches at Dwaine’s high school and it sounds like everything is good in terms of academics. Not sure if an offer will happen, but we certainly hope and believe one should.
But another Lousiana name to keep an eye on is Joseph Prevost out of Marrero, Louisiana. I (K) came across him last week and was really impressed with both his sideline-to-sideline speed and his closing speed. I would like to have seen more of him at the point of attack, but he’s already more put together at this point than any recent LBs we’ve had (6’1″ flat-footed and 220 lbs compared to Townsend who is just over 200 lbs) so I think there is enough to say he can stack ’em.
– Tipa Galeai: Last week our buddy, Alex King, went to see 2015 OLB Roy Sutton III at Fossil Ridge and came away very impressed. With OU in the market for one or two OLB’s in this year’s class, Alex has been scouring Dallas trying to find some possible targets. In fact, he uncovered the fact that OU has been in contact with SMU OLB commit, Michael Scott (none of us have seen Scott and there isn’t much film on him, so other than his great frame we don’t know what to make of his ability one way or the other). This week he’ll be going by to take a look at Tipa Galeai who is a long LB prospect out of Euless, TX (Trinity).
– Dwayne Wallace: A JUCO offensive lineman that has been receiving a lot of OU interest lately is Dwayne Wallace out of Riverside City Community College. Dwayne reached out to us last night and let us know that coach Bedenbaugh came by and saw him and has been in regular communication.
– Jeffrey McCulloch: About a month ago, Oklahoma offered 2016 OLB Jeffrey McCulloch out of Houston (we missed the offer somehow). Spoke to McCulloch last night and he said that he’s trying really hard to get up to OU on a visit this season.
– Dontavious Jackson: Was told something interesting recently about Jackson. Apparently because of his relationship with Ogbonnia ‘Obo’ Okoronkwo (both being from the Alief area – Jackson plays at Elsik and Obo played at Taylor), he is VERY high on Oklahoma, as in that’s the school he sees himself ending up at with an offer. Coach Kish has been speaking to him quite a bit, but an offer still hasn’t been made. Obo speaks very highly of both Kish and OU to Jackson and according a friend who spoke to Jackson about it, that has given him a great impression OU. The friend went so far as to say that Jackson would end up at OU with an offer, but it’s too early for us to really buy into it quite yet. Just thought it was at least a positive note in what’s been less than super positive on the recruiting front lately.
– College Football Playoff Poll: Comes out tomorrow evening. ESPN will reveal the results of the poll tomorrow night at 6:30 (CST).
– LSU vs. Ole Miss: Wow, did anyone else watch that game? That, my friends, is how defense is played. Simple and to the point (of attack).
181 Comments
Even if OU had the same caliber of athletes as LSU, which they don’t, I still wouldn’t have faith in the Stoopses to play that style of defense.
But could you imagine OU having that kind of talent and still losing 2-3 times a year like LSU?
And still OU plays in the Big 12 where they play lesser talent every week but still manage 2 losses. Meanwhile LSU plays in a league where they play equal talent just about every week and still manage to compete at a high level.
OU being more talented than everyone in the Big 12 is starting to ring hollow. Talent is more than measurables.
Not sure what you mean bud? OU has consistently has more NFL talent on their roster than other Big 12 teams (outside of Texas). My point was simply that it isn’t necessarily fair to compare the results of LSU vs, Oklahoma. LSU plays serious NFL talent every week. That’s a difficult thing to do each week. OU’s talent is far superior to KSU’s and I don’t think that’s debatable. Having said that, while I love Chavis, I’m not a fan of LSU overall so I don’t want my comments to be perceived as me defending them or arguing that coach Miles is somehow better than Stoops.
That is nonsense. When you compare LSU’s schedule most years to OU’s, the difference in talent they are playing is not all that different. Especially in terms of LSU’s defense vs typical SEC offenses. Don’t forget, LSU typically plays 3-4 cupcake city games for their OOC games. They’ve also played very, VERY mediocre Mississippi schools every season too. I get that those schools are good this year, but they haven’t been. Coupled with games against teams like Vandy and Kentucky in the past, and I’d actually argue that from a defense vs offenses faced point of view, OU probably plays as tough, and maybe tougher schedules, on average.
Please don’t call anyone’s post on here “nonsense” whether it’s mine or anyone elses. It’s an unnecessary addition to your post that doesn’t strengthen your argument in the least. Having said that, I’ll leave this at agree to disagree. Arguing the SEC West’s talent vs. the Big 12s talent can get exhausting. But I believe the SEC has better overall talent and you seem to believe the Big 12 does.
Just for argument’s sake, how’s the talent that A&M puts out there on defense? I think most Big XII offenses would eat them up. LSU won because Hugh Frieze had a brain freeze. Neither offense is that good, making their respective defense look better. And Auburn was thoroughly outplayed by KSU, who clearly have weaker talent according to you. Give me a break. The talent is all pretty much even. The SEC may have more in the NFL, but they have more teams too. Moreover, academic standards at LSU. Miss. St. And the others may enable them to recruit players that wouldn’t qualify at PAC 12, B1G, the ACC or most Big XII schools. The NFL doesn’t care about that at all.
I get tired of all the SEC worship that goes on. The SEC plays old style football, a big advantage when you have a 6 or 7 week layoff before the Bowl Games. They almost never play a good team outside of conference in late October or November, choosing instead to schedule a Chattanooga or Savanah St. But people give them a pass. Oh Alabama might play a Va Tech or Michigan in August, but you will never see them play an Oregon in November when the Ducks have their offense running smoothly.
Just for argument’s sake, how’s the talent that A&M puts out there on defense? I think most Big XII offenses would eat them up. LSU won because Hugh Frieze had a brain freeze. Neither offense is that good, making their respective defense look better. And Auburn was thoroughly outplayed by KSU, who clearly have weaker talent according to you. Give me a break. The talent is ll pretty much even. The SEC may have more in the NFL, but they have more teams too. Moreover, academic standards at LSU. Miss. St. And the others may enable them to recruit players that wouldn’t qualify at PAC 12, B1G, the ACC or most Big XII schools. The NFL doesn’t care about that at all.
I get tired of all the SEC worship that goes on. The SEC plays old style football, a big advantage when you have a 6 or 7 week layoff before the Bowl Games. They almost never play a good team outside of conference in late October or November, choosing instead to schedule a Chattanooga or Savanah St. But people give them a pass. Oh Alabama might play a Va Tech or Michigan in August, but you will never see them play an Oregon in November when the Ducks have their offense running smoothly.
And where are those early season games? Right down the street at a “neutral” site. Where are those bowl games? Memphis, Nashville, Atlanta, Jacksonville, Tampa, etc etc
SEC offenses suck. Their QBs are terrible and oline play isnt as good as the big 12. Be honest how many QBs in the SEC would start at texas, baylor, tcu, wvu, ou, osu, taco tech, and ksu right now
I think you’re spot on here, K. Anyone who does think the SEC is loaded with talent on both sides of the ball is being foolish. OU has some pretty talented guys, but not a complete team of talented guys (includes coaching and staff). If they can’t reclaim some hype and swag as well as correct some issues on the staff side we’ll enjoy similar results as this year.
Of course I could.
Lol!
unfortunately i agree 100%
I’m just blown away that we haven’t offered Dontavious Jackson yet…
You are not alone. I share your thoughts. lol
That LSU defense was great. I wish OU would play half that aggressive.
One thing I love about Galeai & Prevost’s film is the effort the two players give. Now I know it’s a highlight film but still got to love how they keep after it and are making tackles 30 yards down field.
Totally agree. Love that relentless effort.
What is the reason Griffin doesn’t have an offer?
Kish’s ineptitude.
Coach Kish didn’t offer. Guess he saw some other LBs he preferred. I will say, my eyes align with some coaches on the staff (Mikes and Jerry’s). Definitely don’t align with coach Kish’s (and that isn’t me being self aggrandizing and presuming my estimation of talent is better than his). When we found Dwaine we were sure if we posted his stuff on here, Dwaine would get noticed and get an offer…but nope haha.
Maybe he is still using dial-up AOL?
That’s funny BigJoe
………for a non-geek, like me, that was funny……..thxs
This is interesting. Not that Griffin isn’t offered but more importantly, one coach has the power to overturn other coaches suggestions or perception. Correct me if I’m wrong but that is what I read from you.
Oh, I wasn’t suggesting that coach Mike or Jerry like Jordan. I don’t know their opinions. I was just making a general statement about the offers I see go out in the secondary and on the DLine as opposed to the LBs. To the point you raised though, coach Kish is the one that decides which LBs do or don’t get offered.
So how do I reach out to Kish and discuss Griffin. : )
Lol it won’t help. Striker already tried 🙂
Still can’t get too upset about Townsend. But if they miss on wheeler that would be disappointing. It’s time for us to pressure someone to get them to be the first LB commit.
I personally wouldn’t have offered Townsend. Don’t understand where he would fit in OU’s defense.
I agree on that. Thomas is the better prospect.
I’m with you. Last thing they want is to get to January with a goose egg for LB commits.
I can’t imagine they get to January without a commit at LB, that’s why I’m not too worried. I think it’s possible after the Baylor game (needs to be a win) that we will start picking up commits again. I’ve looked at the previous years and usually the recruiting is cold beteeeen the middle of September and the middle of November. And we will know where we stand with jefferson by December 19th or 20th which if he chooses ou then great, if not then I expect offers to go out to our next 3 guys in the list.
fwiw…….just read an article on jefferson with some quotes where he talks in general about recruiting……….absolutely no mention of ou
It would be nice for us to land a LB early and have them become a Mixon or Mack esque recruiting leader for that class. Loved the way Daylon Mack decided early on to be an Aggie, and then totally went to work finding a defensive infusion to join his cause. Not sure if we have that focal class commit yet. Maybe PJ is? We need one(shame its not Mack).
Mack better have one heck’ava sales pitch.
I wouldn’t give mixon that much credit. He promised quick and kd cannon but I think quick was already in the bag with Byrd being his cousin and lj moore still being at ou at the time plus moore hasn’t ever said anything negative about ou and still refers to the team as “we” and “us” obviously kd cannon is lighting it up for baylor. And the only other guy that I think mixon had influenced was natrell Curtis who didn’t make it to campus.
But I’m with you I think pj is the guy and possibly Sunderland. Mckenzie would have been a big guy to bring in as far as the recruiting other guys but I think he’s overrated with all these services boosting him to number 1 HS player after the opening. Which what I saw from him was not impressive.
The end results may not have paid dividends, but he was a major presence on social media and was giving us another voice. I think he helped work Frison too when they played in that bowl game.
In reference to Jackson, if Kish screws this one up too….he gone!
From what I watched of the LSU Ole Miss game, it looked like LSU would have ran away with it if they could hold onto the ball.
Agree. Or their DBs could actually catch. Collins had his hands on like 3 potential INTs.
If I were an HS OL I would love to play in LSU’s sceme. They also have two HB’s that are old school mean. Loved watching that game.
I don’t know one thing about evaluating talent. Maybe you can take a look at this young man and, if you think he’s good enough, maybe you can get to word to someone on the OU staff. I am not sure as to how to put a video up, so I put the link here. He’s playing linebacker at Div. 2 Mountain View High School in Tuscon.
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2612759/highlights/166775375
JP Ramirez is his name and according to family is 6′, 225 lbs. They say he makes good grades, but has to work at it. He’s been to camps at Stanford, Arizona and Cal. His mother approved for me to share his video. Maybe you can let me know what you think. Thanks!
I like the way he tackles. Since Kish knows Arizona, one would think he’s aware of him. Honestly don’t know why Google shows no pages for him on any of the recruiting sites.
Thank you.
I’ll offer an opinion although, like yourself, I don’t claim to be an expert at evaluating talent. He’s got skill and can play D1 football. I don’t think he’s the type of player suited for OU’s scheme. He plays well getting off blocks and moving through traffic inside the box but his speed to the sidelines may not be what OU looks for. That’s just my guess but thanks for posting and maybe someone else will offer an opinion.
It’s easy to play aggressive against SEC offenses.
You can play aggressive against any offense. Ole Miss was in 11 personnel quite a bit actually. Aggressive is about the nature of your call and the nature of your alignment.
Agreed. But some offenses exploit aggressiveness more than others. Some Qbs in the Bog XII have been fantastic reading the blitz and exploiting the weakened coverage.
Some good Big 12 QBs for sure.
They’ve struggled against every team they’ve played that’s had a pulse. I don’t buy into SEC defenses like others do, and definitely not LSU’s in 2014. Ole Miss is overrated and will get stomped against a good offense. LSU shouldn’t have even beaten Wisky. They struggled against Florida lol
Agreed.
Comparing end results of LSU’s defense vs OU’s defense doesn’t make much sense to me. The SEC offenses are improving, but over the last decade, they have been below average to terrible compared to the offenses in the Big 12. Some of that was seen when aTm and Mizzou had some successes upon moving to the SEC. Some of that has been seen in bowl games where the SEC was matched up against good Big 12 O’s, or other good O’s from the PAC-XX or ACC.
LSU’s defense consistently gave TAMU fits even when they had Manziel. And Alabama just blanked them without him. Chavis has his Mustang package to match up with the spread offenses and they’ve done a nice job. Having said that, Baylor, TCU and WVU have some dangerous offenses this year. But KSU, Texas, OSU, etc…this year…not so much. Texas did a really nice job shutting Baylor down. Hopefully the Sooners can do the same.
Talent & smarts is one thing but what I see is overall speed. DB speed is greater in SEC and it hurts me to write this, however it’s true. SEC doesn’t have a Bryce Petty but Baylor’s WR’s are the same speed of most if not all SEC WRs. Speed kills and SEC has it.
Agree. But I think part of it is the style of coverage. Big 12 teams are playing more man or 2 read coverage so you’re seeing more and more big 12 CBs get drafted.
Auburn raped LSU’s defense. A KSU team we put up 530 yards on did a far better job vs auburn than LSU did.
That’s true. It’ll be interesting to see if that was a case of a you d growing up or not. They’ll play Bama and Arkansas and both can run the ball do it’ll be telling.
I’m sorry but this inevitable hand wringing about the team is getting tired. I agree that changes needed to be made in order to stay competitive, but I don’t think we should dress everyone on the team down as if it’s just an intractable philosophical error that can’t be addressed. I’m not saying “Rah rah, let’s go.” But let’s let the season play out and the Brothers Stoops make adjustments. Patience.
It can certainly be addressed.
Totally agree…and I also think if you want a coach replaced you should name a replacement.
let the season play out? this season is over bud, done, finito.
you expect massive adjustments 7 games into the season? the defense hasnt been good, the o line is getting no push, receivers not named shepard are horribly inconsistent.
This team is too talented to be an afterthought 2 weeks into october, thats a massive problem we have had the last half a decade.
Yep over. Might as well quit playing. No more games folks. Some fans want to quit so let’s pack it up. Never a team sport player were ya? Don’t answer. Rhetorical
Wait…whaaaa?
But my schedule says there are still five more games to go.
I’m going to the garden and eat worms.
/s
ha ha – it sure is tough to give up those high hopes from that narcotic called Sugar Bowl Beat Down of ‘Bama.
Got hooked on that drug, instantly!
I thought we’d witnessed the arrival of the next Sooner Dynasty.
Maybe next year. . .
Yessir, I sure had high expectations for this season.
Love the Sooners and I’m certain no one is more disappointed than they are. Still a lot to play for, though.
I’m with ya boomersooner, OU can finish 10-2 and go to a great bowl game. Who knows, we may be in consideration for the final 4. If not, 11-2 and finishing in the top 6 is not bad. We all want championships but sometimes it just doesn’t happen. However, I’m still going to stay positive and be behind the team.
Couldn’t have said it better
with the way SEC teams are not falling out of the top 10 despite losing, theres no chance we get a playoff bid ahead of a 2 loss SEC west team. SEC perception is incredibly strong.
I just dont see how we get back into the top 6 with only 1 ranked team left on our schedule. It would take us getting an access bowl bid, and right now we are behind TCU, KSU, baylor, and maybe even WVU for that bid.
Welp, cancel my subscription. I’m not paying another dime for this stuff if we’re shutting down the team. 🙂
lol. I played varsity football and tennis, church league basketball and softball. But no, never played team sports 😛
In terms of where we all knew this team should be, which is the playoffs, yes this season is over.
dont get me wrong, i havent missed a game in 27 years, and im not going to start now. Knowing there is only pride left to play for is not the same as giving up on the team.
even making the cotton is a longshot at this point.
You probably said the same thing last year, after the loss to Baylor. All we did after that was pound ISU, beat a solid KSU team on the road, beat a 10-1 #5 ranked OSU team on the road, and pound a good Bama team in the Sugar Bowl.
But sure. Our season is over.
we had a surging KSU and a #6 OSU still left on the schedule last year, this year we have a baylor team quickly losing cred, and a terrible OSU team.
Theres nothing left to impress with.
we dropped 3 spots in the polls on a bye week, our perception is pretty much shot.
cotton bowl is our ceiling now, and theres 3 teams ahead of us for that bid.
I can only agree that things haven’t happened the way we all hoped a few weeks ago but we never dreamed we had a shot at the Sugar last year. I’m just going to let things play out and hope some crazy sh%t happens in the closing weeks.
Last year we had a surging KSU and a #6 OSU team on the road left to impress with, so we could move up the polls. This year we have 3 terrible teams, a baylor team losing credability at home, and a very mediocre OSU team at home.
Theres only 1 game at most left to impress with to make a late surge like we did last year.
I dont see us getting to play a top 5 opponent in a bowl game at this point, more than likely we get a top 15 one.
We dropped 3 spots in the polls on an off week, while georgia stayed ahead of a TCU team that dropped 82, during the bulldogs bye. Our credibility is in pretty bad shape right now.
…I don’t think we’re on the same page. I’m referring to the team’s long term development. If they build something in the remainder of this season it could be something to build on next year. Was that not clear?
We definitely need to build for next year but our losses are going to be significant this year. We lose Bell, Thompson, Williams, Shead/Savage and Ripkowski off of the offense. Defensively we lose Ndulue, Grissom, Wilson, Hayes and probably Phillips and possibly Striker. That is 11 starters which will makes 2015 almost twice the rebuilding year we had this year when we returned 15 starters.
Guess I don’t see what you expect to change with a coach that’s been here 15 years. I see us, winning 10 games a year, which is nothing to scoff at. but Im not sure we can produce a national title contender if we couldn’t even make it to November with title aspirations still intact with this talented group we have now.
Last year was the year we built up, this should have been the year we maximized on our potential.
What will another year of difference make, honestly? There’s no major impact players capable of coming in and starting year 1 in this current recruiting class, and we obviously can’t get it done wit the guys we have now.
We just ran out of patience. Waiting for fall 2015 for our new supply.
An LB recruit from Houston? Hell I’ll drive him up myself, we need some hope at that position
I’m losing track. How many time outs do we have left for the 1st half at ISU?
None.
In fact, we borrowed a few from the Time Out Bank. And we used up those, delays in signaling play changes down to the field you know.
Next we’ll borrow time outs from the 2015 season.
Is it just coincidence that a prominent poster from Scoop had been asking about the Galaei kid for a week and now this site uncovers him?
You must mean Galeai, and where did you read that he was uncovered here? I’ve never seen that.
No need to refer to yourself in the third person. I did enjoy you referring to yourself as a prominent Scoop poster though, that can stay.
Jordan– Over my time reading TFB I’ve slowly but steadily become a fan of
yours. Especially, after acclimating to your sarcasm. Often times I chuckle at
your posts and sometimes it turns into audible laughter. Your response to PW
was one of those times.
Happy to hear I was finally able to win you over!
Haha, whatever you say you fool! I understand that it is easy for you to make things up like that and try to discount my question by changing the focus. But that doesn’t make you correct or change any facts, I am a poster on all Oklahoma boards….that doesn’t make me every poster. I must say though that I am shocked that any sight would allow someone who acts such as you do be associated with them. Little more than a crazy fan who knows nothing but second guesses everything after the fact. Like an expert swimmer who has never been in a pool. Keep the second guessing coming! LOL
Site*
Maybe he doesn’t see very well.
Which player are you referring to? Would be happy to detail how we came across each player. We don’t take information from rivals either way but would be happy to tell you how we came across any of the players above or any of the many players we’ve brought to the OU publics attention
He’s referring to Tipa Galeai
Paul, I deleted your comment. It was full of attacks. To answer your question…if jordan is correct and you’re referring to Tipa…Alex lives near Euless and attends a lot of trinity games so he’s familiar with a lot of their athletes. In general we find out about players in a number if different ways but with work and this site, most of don’t have time to scan other boards anymore so that isn’t an efficient way for us to track down players. We do get some tips from emailers.
Also would be fair to point out if the kid was mentioned in an email, often posters go to multiple sites and ask the same question or suggest to look at a guy who isn’t getting any notice.
We typically do mention if we received an email about the player…like in the case of Ykili Ross. In this case we didn’t receive anything. Dwaine Thomas was brought to us by a good friend who knows Dwaine well. And the other LB from Louisiana was mentioned to me by a coaching friend of mine from the area. And we’ve got Alex working hard to uncover the Texas LBs.
I still don’t get what the op was mad about. I started coming to this site for recruiting news and enjoy the updates…I’m sure his questions at the other site were probably not answered.
I recommend people to follow alex on twitter he mentions a lot of guys that may not end up with offers from ou or texas, but are very good prospects in the Dallas area.
Well, Dang Bedenbaugh went to see that kid from Riverside and didn’t come by and see me. I literally live 6 blocks from RCC and work right across the street. Guess I will have to go out and see an RCC game and check out this Wallace kid for myself.
and Norvell was in La Canada last week and didn’t stop by to see me. Sheesh, no respect anywhere….
whaat Jordan Esco said in a post 6 hrs ago…..absolutely on target.
That guy is a moron. What did he say now?
I agree! Ban that guy! 🙂
how many linebacker recruits are we going to miss on before stoops does something about kish?
This is seriously past a little worrisome, its very close to full on panic mode.
It probably was already mentioned on the site somewhere, but Jordan Griffin (the kid from Striker’s same h.s. & a 2015 LB that TFB wanted OU to offer) has committed to Wisconsin
Who gave the trolls permission to speak recently?
The defeatists did it.
Eas tex read the message above that is if you can read
So I see you’re here just to be a dbag…that’s cool though you would fit in better on other ou related sites.
Doesn’t LT create threads specifically for the topics he enjoys?
I’m pretty sure every single one of them is “I just pretend to be an ou fan but really I don’t know wtf I’m talking about”
Since this is an open post and you seemed to follow twitter, I need a little sunshine for the day.
OU has offered around 18 linebackers listed under (olb,ilb,ath). There are 8 still uncommitted and OU needs 4, I think. What 4 can we expect ?
1. John Houston-Gardena, Ca.
2. Malik Jefferson, Mesquite, Tx.
3. Anthony Wheeler, Dallas, Tx.
4. Ricky Deberry, Richmond, Va.
5. Arthur McGinnis, New Orleans, La.
6. Anthony McKee, Columbus, Ohio
7. Osa Masina, Salt Lake City, Utah
8. Adonis Thomas, Lawrenceville, Ga.
I would scratch off 7 and 8…haven’t heard much about them being interested. I would replace them with semaj Thomas current tcu commit KLS who would be a olb in our system.
I think McKee and McGinnis and wheeler have made it seem ou is at worst #2 on their lists. KLS, deberry and jefferson are all high on ou and I wish they would get together and say “we can be a special group together”
If I had to guess right now I would say we end up with McKee, wheeler, McGinnis. Then either KLS or deberry
Thanks, any 4 of those would be a homerun and 5 would be a grand slam.
Now I think that’s likely if we end up 10-3 with a bowl win. If we end up 8-5 with a loss in the bowl game then we may end up worse off at linebacker. But if we go 11-2 with a win over an sec team in the bowl game, then I think you could see landing a really good class.
Zack would love to see it but i see us losing two more games
Well then if they win out you gotta give credit to stoops for winning those 2 games you see is losing right?
the pregnant pause here would tell me no
We’re not even being charged for this entertainment.
haha
wouldn’t it be awesome if it was the same guy and he was bipolar
I keep expecting him to tell us he does one show each night, two on Saturday(the 2nd is a little blue), try the veal and tip your waitress.
*Rimshot*
Zack when big game bob win the national championship then i will agree with you but winning games nobody care’s about does’t count even you have to agree with me on this point
Perhaps you should say losing games I don’t care about doesn’t count. From my perspective I cared about beating TCU and KSU. I will also care about beating Baylor, OSU and a bowl game against a SEC team.
Am I disappointed about not getting to the playoffs? You bet! I have personally seen Wilkinson, Switzer and Stoops teams fall far short of fan and media expectations. I have also learned to enjoy every win. They are all important. I have also learned that a “what have you done for me lately” mentality will only have you standing in the muck asking why!!!
weird
still got a decent shot at deberry, McGinnis and a good shot with McKee and wheeler.
Oh wow that’s 2 knowledgeable people who came up with 4 of the same recruits. I know before you say it-great minds think alike.
We need all of them mike stoop’s defense can’t stop anybody right now
uncle. please with all due respect, go troll somewhere else man. this is an OU fan site. not an air your dirty laundry site
That was a fair comment from him.
point being, him and the other clowns look at every comment, even if its about hoops or not even on topic and bash something. it gets old. people are entitled to their opinion for sure but uncle on the sky is falling and we suck and get rid of the football program and stoops must go
Agree that’s because mike tried to fix something that wasn’t broke.
Zack please explain what you mean ” Mike tried to fix something that wasn’t broke”. Thanks
The defense was playing well even with the yards they gave up to wvu who may end up the big 12 champ and only has losses to Alabama and ou. But then against tcu mike changed his gameplan prior to even playing a single snap against Boykin. Since the wvu game it doesn’t seem like he’s let the pass rushers go as much.
My point is he shouldn’t have adjusted to the opponent until after the opponent proved they could beat his scheme he had ran all year.
I think he was very concerned with Boykin’s running ability and not his arm, based on his history. I know Boykin has totally surprised me with his throwing this year. With wvu you knew where Trickett was going to be on every down.
Except for the 4th qtr let down against Texsa, I think the OU defense has played well in the last two games. Without the pick six and the lineman downfield TD, KSU scores only 17 points.
I agree that Boykin has surprised many. But I still think we should have came in to the game with the plan that we will make him uncomfortable if he drops back to pass. I would be ok with him beating us with his feet if a play broke down but we let him get too comfortable in the first half and by the time the defense showed up in the 2nd half, the offense had nothing.
I would bet his reading ability far exceeds your ability to form a proper sentence and how to use appropriate punctuation.
I agree. Reading his comments give me a headache.
There’s only 42 comments but it seems like 420 with what he’s smoking
Gary i guess you to are fine with just being average tell me why people like you eas tex and zack are okay with just nine or ten win’s a year but not championship’s like they are winning at florida state and alabama if they can do it hell why can’t we do it hell even brian the boz bosworth said we are not not going in the right direction as a program are you going to attack him like you do me ha i don’t think so been a proud sooner fan since the 1970’s when winning championship’s was what this program was about not nine or ten win season’s
I don’t think any of us said we were happy about winning 9 or 10 games. I don’t want to speak for them, I want championships too but you gotta stick with a coach like stoops because like I’ve said there aren’t 5 guys who run a better program top to bottom. I don’t discount what saban has done at Alabama at all but do you really think fsu, auburn, miss st and ole miss are running clean programs? I don’t think so. Winningest coach in bcs era means nothing? 4 trips to the title means nothing? 8 conference titles means nothing? I’m just saying since he showed up, all the other coaches in the big 12 haven’t yet combined for the same number of conference titles. Don’t get too proud about the good ole days and forget what the 90s were like.
No i won’t every forget the 90’s but i miss the 1970’s and don’t forget the 1950’s to
dude!! nailed it. seeing it in print makes you giddy about what could happen if that fire stays lit. my favorite point you keep making is the cleanness of the program. i DO NOT want to cheat to win. i would much rather have 10 win seasons clean than sit there and win titles by cheating
You do realize that Switzer had two or more losses in half the seasons that he coached at OU, He lost five bowl games and finished outside the top ten four times. Things aren’t as bad as you want to make them seem.
Yes but barry switzer won three national championship’s in just 15 seasons bob has only one and as i have said before he is the only coach to lose three national championship’s in a row if he had won one of them sooner ray i would be more to your side
2 of those title games could have been different if the injury bug swung the other way…Florida we were without demarco and Ryan Reynolds and I believe another key player, where Florida got their star harvin healthy and he killed us. Then vs lsu there was speculation our heisman qb was banged up.
I’m like most people. I want 14 wins every year and a National Championship trophy. If I was a betting man I would doubt there are any unbeaten teams after this years National Champion is crowned. I did not listen to Boz but did he offer his explanation as to what OU must do ? I am not a coach so I can only armchair quarterback and ask why does OU do certain things. I am only 67 years old and became a real OU football fan when I went to the ’71 OU/Nebraska game. I guess these football wins for OU are like the stock market, you will have good years and bad years. If you can’t take the bad with the good you would be better served to get out of the race.
Dudley, please tone the comments down or we will have to ban your ip. There is no reason for personal attacks
Sorry but just being a sooner fan that is all i am like most fan’s on this site who want us to win the national championship every year that is all and i won’t give less than that just want what is best for sooner nation
And you’re free to voice your opinion, just try and be a little kinder in the way you do it. Trust me, your frustration overall is understandable but our civility with our fellow human being is far more important than this game. I hope it’s ok that I offer those unsolicited notes.
Zack i see you are still drinking that kool aid ha more fan’s on this site are waking up to the fact.s that we have won are last championship under big game bob you and eas tex are living in a fantasy land zack come on zack just a little more kool aid
So since 2000 how many other coaches have won titles? I’ll name them for you. Coker, tressel, Carroll, saban, Meyer, miles, chisik and fisher. How many of them are actually better and how many have more integrity? I’m not a win at all costs kind of guy, the program needs to have accountability. None of them have the same kind of integrity stoops has.
You find me a list of guys that could legitimately “turn” the program around and maybe then I would agree with your statement but the fact is there is no one who could do more here.
Still trolling and drinking arsenic, I see.
pretty decent write up. we’re 15th, which i hate preseason polls but at least gives you an idea of how good you may or may not be. everybody seems to think if thomas gets eligible we’ll be pretty dadgum good. exciting for sure. gives the nellies something else to do besides complain, also. http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/11754505/college-basketball-top-25-power-rankings
I’m really looking forward to this basketball season. The present and future look very bright. Fingers crossed for Thomas’ waiver.
should be exciting. wish the one kid hadn’t transferred tho. got a tough road test right outta the gate too
Love the early test. Excited for the Bahamas trip, too.
i’ve been to the atlantis, not for the tourney ever, but that place is cool. water slides and lazy river and whatnot
…..? for tfb………interesting roster/position changes if true………sam grant now at dt from oline and mark andrews now at wr from te………
Hunh!
That’s what the roster is showing.
yeah, recruited as wr then he got moved to te’s since season started…….now back to wr, at least by roster……….if true, he would now be with norvell than with boulware
Didn’t Andrews come in as a WR? or am I thinking of someone else.
He did, was told he wouldn’t be moved to TE, but he was. So moving him back to WR is an interesting development.
Very interesting! Thanks for the heads up. We’ll ask about that!
I’m actually more intrigued by the grant move. Isn’t he like 6’6 or 6’7? Would be interesting but speaks to depth issue we’ve noticed lately with walker and dimon being injured.
Super K, referring to the LSU defense the other night it was the best they have played all year. I watched their two losses and on both sides of the ball I hadn’t seen an LSU line that weak in decades. Maybe their players are growing up, can’t discount their playing at home helped and I also believe the team was motivated by Miles’ Mom passing away.
they have off next week, then bama comes to town………perhaps they’re getting in gear ……….don’t think they have qb play to get bama but it’ll be insane in death valley
If they beat Bama by running on them I will be amazed.
it’ll be the normal los war it usually is between those 2
I don’t know, Amari Cooper is on fire.
Bama seems different this year, they seem to be letting the players have some fun. I was watching some of a Bama game a few weeks ago and they were blowing them out, think it was TAMU. Anyway, I noticed they were playing the House of Pain “Jump” song and the players were all jumping around…just like OU did to them just before the end of the first half in the Sugar. The sincerest form of flattery…yada-yada-yada.
Thanks EasTex. I hadn’t seen them up until the other night and I’ll say that they’re line looks soft to me. What I really like those is their alignment and the calls. To me that’s what matters because with the right scheme/alignment/calls then I know that whether it’s this year or next year OU will have an incredible defense.
I agree they played lights out against OM. They seemed to know exactly what OM was going to do with their defensive calls. I also think OM had already psyched themselves out about winning at Tiger stadium on a Saturday night.
Sooo….uhhhh, after scrolling thru comments, it seems as though I have been missing out the past week or so . Wow.
Don’t you just hate bye weeks?
I guess we just need to start ignoring these guys. I guess after 2 losses that’s all some can do to enjoy their fandom.
I question if they are actually fans and not pot stirrers. Also, can’t rule out that they may just be miserable and lash out in odd ways.
The dudley guy first showed up here a few weeks ago and was calling for Stoops job. I checked his profile and he had just created one and the few comments he had made were all for Stoops firing. Sounds like an agenda driven identity to me.
It’s one thing to think this team is complacent or that this team is going to let is down each year with expectations of title or bust. But it’s a flawed plan when they say stoops should be fired yet have no candidates (for good reason, there aren’t many) and this job isn’t as desirable as some may think.
I think without stoops recruiting would fall off to top 30 ranked classes
You and I have seen the best and worst years of OU football. Where we are now is neither.
I believe the coaches and players are all committed to winning and are motivated by that common goal. Being such a successful program puts a huge target on us from opposing teams and we always get their best when we play.
To have a championship season many things have to fall just right.
For me I enjoy being there for the ride. The big wins aren’t as rewarding as a fan unless you go through the tough losses. And I’m not going after the Dudley guy but if the national title games are the only ones of importance then there’s only been 10 games of note in the entire history of oklahoma football and we know that’s not true. That Alabama game was huge last year. And on a smaller scale the bowl game vs Stanford was important. A bowl win is important regardless of the overall season. (Doesn’t mean the season was a success.)
You and I have that in common, I love the rides the Sooners have provided me for 58 years.
As for the dudley guy, I will go after him and have since he first posted here. He comes in blazing away with wanting Stoops fired, so I checked his profile and his very first post came that night on that thread and at the time he had made four comments, all calling for Stoops to be fired. I called him out as a troll then and will continue to do so.
I have had much experience with trolls over the last ten years, as I have been a blog administrator/writer during that time and at one point was working on four different political blogs at the same time.
What dudley is we call a “concern troll.” Apply the following description to his posting style and you will see what I mean.
Any fan wants his team to compete for a Natty each year, but few schools have that desire as much as OU. I agree about the importance of a bowl win to cap off a season. While it is disappointing that we have two losses, the fact that it was against two good teams and it was our own mistakes that cost us tempers my frustration. OU hasn’t been ‘whipped’ by anyone since the Cotton debacle.
K-State has a real good chance to land OLB Joseph Prevost