Open Post | Weekend, May 1st – 3rd (UPDATE Sat., 3:46 pm)
Posted on: May 1, 2015
Image of Kiondre Thomas via wholehogsports.com
– Team News: Have heard a bit of unfortunate news. I will not go into too much detail, but it sounds as though there was suspicion that a number of players had “violated team rules” (which is what I’ll call it). As such, the university is testing all the players for this said “violation of team rules.” It sounds as though the chances of multiple suspensions, most likely for OU’s season opener vs. Akron, is a real possibility.
I’m sure the coaches share the same sentiment as you all do, the new freshman class cannot get here soon enough. And that’s the good news. Oklahoma recruited high quality and character athletes this past signing period. – (Super K)
Note: This is probably obvious but “violation of team rules” can be used for any number of things. So while it’s probably obvious to many of you what I’m referring to above, that does NOT mean every time you hear about a player violating team rules that the violation was what I’m referring to above.
– Team News | Keith Ford: I checked with a family member of Ford’s regarding his status with the program and was told that a final decision has not yet been made. – (Super K)
– Defensive Backs Offers: As most of you have likely gathered, Kerry Cooks has certainly made a number of DB offers since arriving at OU. One of those recent offers was made to 2016 Baylor commit Chris Miller (Frisco, TX), who tells me that he doesn’t have a visit set up as of now but has every intention of making it to Norman.
Oklahoma also offered a pair of 2016 JUCO DBs, J’Marcus Rhodes out of Kilgore JUCO and Jamarcus King out of Coffeyville Community College. And some of you may be wondering why OU would be offering JUCO DBs after the numerous times we’ve said here to expect the Sooners to take a smaller secondary class in 2016.
Well, TFB has it on good authority there will be news of at least one current DB transfer in the near future. Hence, the recent JUCO DB offers. – (Super K)
– Diron Reynolds: It sounds like Reynolds has been hitting the road on the recruiting trail of late. I caught up with 2017 DE Duke Alexander out of Houston and 2016 DE Levi Onwuzurike out of Allen, both of whom have been hearing from the first-year OU d-line coach. Alexander will be one of the more highly recruited DEs in the next class, so it’s good to see Reynolds building those relationships early. – (Super K)
– Khris Pam: 2016 DB Khris Pam (Blythewood, SC) tells me Mike Stoops and Kerry Cooks will be heading out to South Carolina to see him next week. – (Super K)
– Denzel Okafor: Oklahoma extended an offer to 2016 Dallas area offensive lineman Denzel Okafor earlier this week. Okafor tells me that Bill Bedenbaugh came by his school and made the offer. Okafor also said he is looking to set up a visit to Norman for later this summer. – (Alex)
– Kiondre Thomas: A 2016 cornerback to watch is Kiondre Thomas (6’0″ 170 – Ft. Smith, AR), who hails from a state, Arkansas, that has a number of underrated but excellent talents. Thomas is long, measuring flat-footed at a legit 6’0, ran a 4.46 laser-timed 40 (SPARQ) & has an official 100-meter dash time of 10.8 seconds.
Thomas tells me Kerry Cooks has recently been in touch and while it seems Cooks’ was more so just checking in, the Arkansas product sure appears to have everything in his game Cooks is typically looking for in his corners. – (Super K)
– Clarence Floyd: Speaking of Arkansas talent, another 2016 DB name to know is Clarence Floyd (6’1″ 185 – Hot Springs, AR). I absolutely love Floyd’s film!
He’s been a little difficult to track down, but I finally managed to speak to his counselor and to Floyd himself. Both of whom gave me a good impression. In my estimation, Floyd can play in any conference in the country. As of right now, though, his only offers are from Arkansas State and Memphis. But as more and more folks find out about him, and assuming his academics are in order, Floyd will almost assuredly see interest pick up significantly. – (Super K)
– UPDATE (Sat., 9:48 am): As mentioned in the comments below, yesterday the Sooners offered 2016 DE Andre Anthony (6’3″ 213 – New Orleans, LA).
– UPDATE (Sat., 9:50 am): I suspect most, if not all, of you are already aware, but for those who may not be….
With the 40th pick the Tennessee Titans have selected Dorial Green-Beckham (WR) Oklahoma pic.twitter.com/AF7l5LfsUa
— NFL_Central (@Central_NFL) May 1, 2015
Congrats @bigj8080!! The @MiamiDolphins just got better! #SoonersInTheNFL pic.twitter.com/4JRVmJ7UUa
— Oklahoma Football (@OU_Football) May 2, 2015
#BOOM!! @Geneo_G will join the @Patriots and look to make it back-to-back Super Bowl Champs!! pic.twitter.com/k8FWZxEQjn
— Oklahoma Football (@OU_Football) May 2, 2015
– UPDATE (Sat., 11:26 am):
BOOM! Another one!
Congrats to Daryl Williams on being drafted by the @Panthers today! pic.twitter.com/gYZJG2MKKo
— Oklahoma Football (@OU_Football) May 2, 2015
– UPDATE (Sat., 11:57 am):
Great things are heading to San Francisco!! Congrats Blake Bell!! #Sooners pic.twitter.com/o3YvR2wBOA
— Oklahoma Football (@OU_Football) May 2, 2015
– UPDATE (Sat., 3:18 pm):
BOOM another #Sooner Drafted!! Tyrus Thompson is a Viking! Congrats! pic.twitter.com/FVp2fn6nxF
— Oklahoma Football (@OU_Football) May 2, 2015
– UPDATE (Sat., 3:46 pm):
Go Rip Go!!
Green Bay picked a good one in Aaron Ripkowski! #Sooners pic.twitter.com/VtNO6GYVXw
— Oklahoma Football (@OU_Football) May 2, 2015
488 Comments
UNO…
Dos
Hate to hear of possible suspensions.. I am excited and a little surprised it took this long for OU to reach into Arkansas they are kind of underrated like a lot of the Oklahoma talent, but better late than never a ton of talent here in Arkansas.
There are like 5 legit D1 DTs in Arkansas in this class alone. Agim, Murray, McCann, Utsey, Capps and Tate at least.
Plus Fraizer last year going to Bama. That is crazy, but I have noticed the HS’s having more and more talent every year especially here in Northwest Arkansas. I think if OU can get a signature this class it would open up more kids to OU being a real player here.
I think Kiondre is an offer all day. I think you take a hard look at Clarence…he’s not even from Arkansas originally. I think you take hard look at Cameron a Murray and NickMcCann as well. Arkansas lost two of their best to out of state schools last yr.
Yes, agree.. And there is a LB at Northside too that is at least worth a look big hitter at ILB. Love Murrays testing #s and McCanns film you guys posted was impressive for sure. Yep, Hill and Frazier. I was really hoping OU would look at TJ Hammonds but he committed to Ark not to long ago.
I’m familiar with the LB you’re referring to. Hits with bad intentions and is something like 240+ but can move!
Yep, that’s the one. Might be a little on the shorter side, but it worked out well with C Lofton.. Lol. That’s who he reminds me of a little.
Tell me what you think of this kid.. http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1703156/highlights/207938401
Was wondering what you thought of Kiondre. Checked him out after I saw his impressive numbers at the Dallas Nike camp. Has all of the measurables and only offers from LaTech and Tulsa.
OU hasn’t recruited Arkansas well since Switzer left…the last Arky on the roster was a walkon , Mark Bradley—-I believe…………
Yep.. Would be about time now though.. Wouldn’t hurt any..
Charley North was our main Arky recruiter. He had a lot of connections there. Haven’t really worked that area hard in the past 20 years.
You know Charley? I played for him in HS.
Suspensions and transfer talk – offseason is upon us. Sigh.
Hey at least no Fulmer Cup points. I live in Alabama. Auburn and Alabama have an entry about once per week. Auburn seems to be leading with two players with six felonies each.
Wow. That is almost in the league of Urban Meyer’s teams at UF.
Lol….I hear the Fulmer Cup is one competition where the SEC is TRULY dominant 😉
Standard operating procedure for first game. I can’t remember an opening game where there weren’t suspensions.
lol, testing for certain things. That’s either weed or HGH. I’m leaning one way quite handily on that.
Question for those who follow recruiting closely. For the past several years, I have read very little positives about OU recruiting classes. Lots of complaints and whining about the Sooners losing out on the highest recruits. Most seemed to be willing to blame the coaches for this. Then along comes coach montgomery and he blows up the defensive side of the recruiting class and coach gundy pulls in a couple of good running back recruits, but all in all lots of negative discussion about the lack of overall recruiting by the staff. Okay, here is my question; is this “new” staff doing a better job of recruiting or are we still in the “honeymoon” phase?
Must be the off season!
Yes
Jerry did something that hadn’t been done in a while. He beat out big time programs for top out of state defensive talent. I think the new coaches will need time. Too early to judge in my opinion.
JM could recruit as good as Switzer in his prime. I wish we still had JM…
Wow. Let’s not get too carried away.
Complaints? Yes.
Whining? Not so much in my opinion. When you use the word whining, I infer that you are speaking negatively about those of us who were/ are concerned about the state of recruiting in the past 5 years… as though the issues raised weren’t legitimate and that it was just baseless bitching.
I agree, complaining here….. whining, fighting, demeaning, frustrating, insulting, and occasionally a nugget LT
16th!
Probably just my paranoia but I sure hope that Mixon isnt involved in the possible suspensions. He did put out a tweet the other day about being so “done”.
I saw that tweet too and wondered what prompted it.
I kind of read it like Ok I so need a summer vacation and get home to my family but the way it was written was ambiguous.
The *second* time I read it, I interpreted it the same as you. But, it made me wonder…
I honestly haven’t heard any names so I have no clue. Just know that they were testing a lot of folks, if not the whole team
I just read the tweet. Clearly was just saying he’s so done with school, workouts, etc Needs break. Wants to be home w family. Definitely wouldn’t worry about that. He’s probably hungriest player on entire team.
Stoops wants to get fired
How much time do you spend each day thinking of dumb sh!t to post?
Not much, this has been his theme for some time. Kinda like an auto signature.
Stoops is going to have those dudes running stadium steps until every last bit of “team rules violation” has been sweated out of their system… and then they’ll miss Akron. Learning the hard way should hopefully be effective.
Need him and his teammate bad.. http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1780938/koron-crump
Please. Not. Mixon.
Dadgummit!!!!! hopefully not a huge issue but whoa if certain unnamed players test ‘hot’
Dont bogart that…. my friend.
Puff puff give, you can get killed with somebody else, you lucky you my boy!
funny stuff dave.
Good stuff.. http://outermonvolia.net/board/showthread.php?54770-Juco-targets
Clarence Floyd .. I can hear the yelling from behind the office door now ,,
WR ! CB ! no RB! No Safety/ return man! ,, NO he’s mine! ,, nuhuh I saw him first !
What if he wants to play QB ?
Kiondre Thomas is one bad young man! I want to see him at OU bad! Dude can fly, and is skilled on both sides of the ball!
Why is it so hard to grow up? I don’t understand why athletes have these problems. I didn’t even when I myself was playing sports or in the military. Never understood why people are too stupid to stay out of their own way. Does anybody have any word at all as to who it was?
Unfortunately not everyone in the world makes good decisions their entire life, I myself have made plenty of stupid choices and I paid for them, granted my stakes aren’t what theirs are but everyones gotta learn, and most the hard way.
I’ve made stupid decisions. But to me drugs are in the “beyond stupid” realm. Maybe that’s because I grew up seeing my cousins and aunts and uncles and siblings and friends make disasters of themselves on account of drugs. So I suppose I was lucky enough to be able to learn from their mistakes. That was one area i was fortunate enough to understand from a young age the consequences I suppose. Some of my best friends in the world still do crap like that. And sometimes I wish I could beat some sense into them haha. I just hope whoever these players are they aren’t key figures.
No offense to anybody who has, in the past, struggled with drugs. I’m all for redemption and forgiveness. I just don’t understand that point of view I suppose. That being said I believe the consequences for drug use in sports are waaaaaaayy too lax.
I agree in regards to “drugs”, however I think classifying Marijuana in the same category as all the other “drugs” is just not right. You’re in law enforcement, who is easier to deal with, some guy drunk from drinking a bottle of 151, or the guy that just fired one up? I know in my experiences, it’s the guy on 151 that causes the most trouble.
c according to the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (1) :a substance recognized in an official pharmacopoeia or formulary (2) :a substance intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease (3) :a substance other than food intended to affect the structure or function of the body (4) :a substance intended for use as a component of a medicine but not a device or a component, part, or accessory of a device
Being “harder to deal with” in one state or another has nothing to do with the definition of the substance that put you in that state. I work security downtown nashville at a bar/restaurant/music venue with 1500 person capacity. So I have EXTENSIVE experience dealing with drunk people and high people. I have zero preference one way or the other on the basis of who is easier to deal with. A belligerant drunk person is the same as a belligerant high person. A nice drunk persom is the same as a nice high person . One of the easiest people I ever had to deal with was a guy doing cocaine in the bathroom. I can’t imagine you would try to say that cocaine is OK on the basis of them being easy to deal with. Marijuana changes your body chemistry and brain function. Thats the very definition of a drug. Is there a medicinal use for it? Absolutely. I can support using it to treat glaucoma or inhibit cancer cell growth. Because it’s a drug. Plain and simple.
People get addicted to prescription drugs all the time. And it’s every bit as dangerous as getting addicted to anything else that changes the way your body naturally operates on a chemical level. Because anything that does that is a drug.
The idea that Marijuana is somehow different from oxycodone or morphine or cocaine or whatever is indefensible. It fits the very definition of a drug. If there was a medicinal use for cocaine I would be fine with use for that purpose. But recreational use of cocaine is an entirely different scenario. Going around changing the definition of substances on the grounds that people “really want” to use said substance is just irresponsible.
We obviously disagree. And that’s fine. At least we agree on the Sooners haha
I will quote a friend of mine, an educator at the college level, amateur football coach and father to two, now grown, sons. “It is virtually impossible to overestimate the stupidity of 18-22 year old men.”
The best lessons in life come from experience and failure. Some of us repeat the class, often.
You must be talking about me, Sam ….
No, sir. Never, my friend. Not a fellow Ohioan. LOL!
Experience is a great teach but the tuition is often very high.
That it is.
I often say that the only difference between me and some of the high profile idiots is that I never got caught. Stupidity is in all of us. So many of us threw away our talents and never gave ourselves the chance to achieve what some of these guys in college have.
Not the news I was hoping for but I wouldn’t be surprised if this was common in the summer and it just leaked out this time.
So, K or anyone who knows, in order that I might throttle my anxiety appropriately, when do you imagine that further information will be available on this little imbroglio?
(and, yes, I basically posted at this time solely to use the word ‘imbroglio’. Because? Because it’s just an outright awesome word.)
It’ll be out soon I suspect. I know at least one transferee but was asked not to divulge the name yet.
Going out on a limb and saying it’s Cody Thomas or Stanvon Taylor
We(@AMYMBO12 & boys)are headed home! Out of NICU & excited!Thanks for all the prayers. @TheFbBrainiacs #daddysbigboys http://t.co/8yloCl5W3E
GREAT NEWS!!! And thanks for the update… I, like many on here, have been worried about the little guy and wondering how he is doing, but didn’t want to ask. Congratulations! That’s 2 good looking young men.
My son was in NICU and I thought he was gone. Today, he is a 6th grader, 5’9″, 120lbs… I pray your child is just as healthy!
Awesome. Looks like a really proud big bro right there.
Praise the Lord!
Awesome man. Congrats.
very good news….maybe there will be no further problems………
So OU has a lack of talent? 6 players drafted. Bama 5, Ohio st 5…USC…
Great news, Brandon. Glad to hear that he’s ok now. Big brother looks proud!
Great news!
That’s great news Brandon! Looking good!
Fantastic news!
May you and your family be blessed with good health and happiness.
Can we haz a BOOM! *insert area code here*
Grats’ bruh, hope mom is good too
congrats and well wishes here.
BOOM
DGB goes 2nd round, 40th overall, to Tennessee Titans.
Bust.
Kiper hatin’
Did he? I was away from tv during the pick and didnt hear what they had to say..
Basically said everything about him was horrible. If this motel room had NFL Network, I would be watching that instead of ESPN. Kiper and McShay on at the same time. Kill me now.
Are you talking about DGB or Phillips?
DGB
Mc shay must have a rich aunt who owns millions in ESPN stock. That is the only way I can figure he got a job that is football related.
Jordan Phillips and Suh in Miami.
Society really needs to move into the new millennium already and legalize the “violation of team rules” thing. It’s ludicrous to categorize the same as cocaine, meth, heroine, or any of those “real” drugs. It also seems pretty hypocritical that a person can go and get slobbering drunk, but can’t spend their down time firing one up. Drunk people are angry, while high people are just hungry.
It will still take time. The big wigs haven’t found the best way to monetize it. But once they do, it will happen.
Just ask Colorado. They’re raking in the dough.
And Washington, and Oregon, and Alaska (well the latter two will be raking in the dough soon enough..) and a host of others come 2016.
While bordering states waste taxpayers’ money suing those states.
True story.
Their partnership with the drug cartels is already in place.
Doesn’t matter whether it becomes legal in the State really, companies as well as athletic programs/Universities will always have policies against the use of any drug.
But there wouldn’t be testing, so how would you know that someone occasionally tokes?
Agreed.
What makes you think there wouldn’t be testing? Do you think companies or Universities in Colorado say it’s ok to smoke weed just because the State legalized it? I’m confident it’s still against policy and would be too big a liability for any insurance company to underwrite a policy for any entity allowing it.
The same reason there’s no testing for alcohol. I’m not talking about showing up to practice or class high. I’m talking about recreational use in your own apartment on your own time.
Agreed.
Alcohol doesn’t stay in the system as long as weed does so anyone “accused” or tested could just say, “oh, that was last week” or “that was two days ago…”
I’d be interested in hearing from any business owner or administrator in Colorado speak to what their policy is.
I could be wrong but I just can’t see recreational use as being something that could be proven.
Point to that would be you need a more accurate test than a piss test, which cannot tell if a user is actually “high” or has used within last 30 days. Many companies are working on Cannabis breathalyzers, to actually be able to tell if a user has smoked recently. This would be the type of test that would move into the workplace if you suspected an employee of abusing a substance at work in a legal (or even illegal) environment. Once these tests are proven to work, they will replace the piss test which is highly inaccurate in terms of users actual (possible) impairment from the substance.
I’m not sure I understand what your point. In any event, if cannabis were to be de-criminalized, testing for it’s use wouldn’t survive any challenge in a court.
I do believe you’re wrong. Under the influence is the sticking point.
I do believe you’re missing the point. Under the influence at practice or class is one thing. Under the influence at home on your own time is quite another.
So, if you roll one up in the privacy of your own home before going into work and your high as hell, the second you walk in the door at work you’re suddenly not stoned??????????
Not missing the point at all.
Who is saying go into work that way? Are you really claiming that everyone who uses, uses and then goes into work? Do people not have off time? What about alcohol? Do you assume that everyone who partakes in drinking, does so and then goes into work? Its usually and after work thing man. After work. Just like alcohol.
Are you serious?
You’re the one saying that whatever you do in the privacy of your own home is your business, not me. The point is, and always will be, the degree to which the employee(s) is/are still under the influence of XXX, whatever XXX may be.
We can all enjoy an ice-cold adult beverage at home, always have been able to but you can’t go into work under the influence or severely impaired by it, you’ll eventually get fired. Weed is no different.
Nobody is making the argument that it’s ok to go to work high.
Side note: LOL @ “adult beverage”. It’s ok to say “beer”.
Thank you for your permission :-/
The argument was that companies would not be able to test/fire employees, I disagreed- they will have policies and enforce them.
And so far they still can, you are correct. That is until the Colorado Supreme court rule, and then that might change in this state. But federally, if this ever changes federally, then workplace rules will have to change. You cannot fire people for using a legal substance, “off the job.” Its wholly unethical.
Again, how do you determine how long ago someone smoked? And you can fire them if they got high at home, came into work, still high, and accidentally cut co-worker Stevie’s frickin’ leg off with a skill saw.
You can’t. There needs to be a test much like a breathalyzer.
One, you could fire them for cutting Steve’s leg off regardless, that could fall under failure to perform duties correctly, surely. But as for pot, if you can absolutely prove the person was impaired at time, then I guess you could add that on. But you wouldn’t need to. He could already be fired.
As for what would most likely happen. Both workers would be drug tested, and the dude who did the cutting, tested clean, because he was really just hungover from being out late the night before, but he passed his “tests.” And poor Steve was a closet smoker (but responsible, like most users, and never used at work, and was not high at work) and he fails his test because he used this past saturday when he was off work. He gets fired, AND loses his leg.
Talk about under the influence.
Truth hurts! And so would the leg incidence! lol
You in pain?
Actually, I feel great! You?
They can, and will be able to, if someone is visibly impaired at work/school/practice. Not randomly, though.
If you’re a DOT CDL carrying employee, random it is, sorry.
Alrighty then
That is correct. Because it is federally mandated they have no choice.
Ok. But you are trying to make the point that if you are a cannabis user, that you automatically go into work high. And thats ludicrous. Just like an alcohol user can drink after work, and go into work sober in the morning, so to can a cannabis user partake after work, and also go into work sober in the morning. The fallacy in your logic is that just because cannabis metabolites stay in your system longer than alcohol, that means you are impaired, and it doesnt. Many, many studies have shown that the pee test for cannabis gives NO indication whatsoever on impairment. Cannabis impairment leaves the system in 2-8 hours, very similar to alcohol.
Word.
No, what I am saying is that companies can and will have policies in place to protect their a$$.
I agree with you there. But protect them from what exactly?
There was actually a case before the Ohio Supreme court last month that they just ruled that it is now illegal to NOT give an employee his workers comp benefits, just because they failed a cannabis test. The court ruled that the testing procedure had no bearing on actual impairment at work, and therefore the insurance company cannot say they wont pay because of “failed cannabis test.” Ohio State Supreme Court ruled this. Failed cannabis test, NOT reason for denying employee workers comp benefits.
Things are changing.
Protect them from inflated workers compensation insurance premiums and the lawsuits that accompany workplace injuries. If a worker is impaired and an accident or injury can be attributed to that impairment, fingers will be pointed.
This is ridiculous- I could care less if you or anyone else smoke a doobie, period. My point is that companies will have policies relating to employees being under the influence of anything that could lead to injury/death or damage to property.
Agreed. But you have to be able to prove impairment. And the pee test does not do that. It can only tell if someone has used within last 30 days (give or take..) A better test will solve this very issue.
Easy, the “Twinkie” test.
Tex, I wont touch twinkie’s even if I’m under the influence. Have you seen whats in those things!!! lol They never get moldy! they never age! lol
Stoner’s don’t employ their higher cortical functions, they just snarf.
I’ll have to respectfully disagree on that.
I stand corrected, it isn’t because they don’t, but because they can’t.
I’ll have to disagree on that as well.
Ok.
BTW, I actually did research in psychopharmacology many years ago, including brain surgery.
Be careful with that, my friend. Psychopharm is about as politicized an area of medicine as psychiatry or psychology. Add to that the poorly understood mechanics of how drugs really work (there’s not yet a really comprehensive explanation of how aspirin works, for example) on a biochemical level and you have a situation that is ripe for constant honest revision as well as jiggery pokery by the politically motivated.
It’s beyond doubt that the drug laws of the USA have been more characterized by prohibitionist religious zeal and racism than by science or sound public policy for the last 100 years or so.
That would appear to be changing as societal attitudes shift. Good. We still have a real reason to keep the intoxicated from doing things that endanger others, however. And by ‘endanger’ I do not mean ‘fail to achieve one’s full potential’. If someone wishes to pump gas for a living, so be it. The decision has consequences, but its up to the individual. So, test for intoxication in a defined set of circumstances, much as we do for alchohol. but understand that you’re testing for intoxication, not evidence of use at some time in the past.
And relax, pot legalization will change…almost nothing. Pot is already an enormous business and is an established part of life for vast swathes of the country. Arguably Oklahoma’s largest cash crop, the weed is entrenched. The last time I encountered it was on a fishing trip with high school buddies in Michigan…in the company of a father/son cop family. Voting Republicans and members of the local Catholic Church. I was the only one to not partake…but only because I had a little security thingie coming up that might have involved peeing in a cup.
The argument is over and well so; we have more important things to worry about.
I was involved in that many moons ago and while politics in general wasn’t an issue, it certainly was in the competition for grants.
I don’t think the argument is over and may well continue after I’m gone.
Harry Anslinger essentially set US drug policy for almost half a century. and the essence of his position continues to inform our laws to this day. That his policies were based on his opinion that the country was under assault from blacks, Hispanics and ‘libertines’ has been picked apart too many times to warrant further discussion. He felt that the repeal of prohibition had been a mammoth mistake but that he could hold the line by associating less broadly used recreational substances with marginalized groups within the society. His policies were purely political and backed by childishly twisted lab work, or, frankly, no lab work at all.
There may be good reasons to regulate recreational drug use … but we’ve never, as a nation, enunciated them.
The country has basically voted with its feet: over 50% of all adults have partaken. At some point laws that are broadly ignored fail for want of support.
Wat?
we survived for years without drug tests. if it is legal then they should not test for it, unless you think they should test for alcohol too.
Like I said below, alcohol doesn’t stay in the system as long as weed and companies will send an employee down to pee in a cup if they suspect they’re intoxicated while on the job so yes, they do test if there is a suspicion.
Weed draws the same concerns from employers in that it’s a liability- As an example: can’t see a company not having a policy in place for employees with a CDL or who operate machinery etc.
The actual impairment of cannabis does not stay in system much longer than alcohol do, but the metabolites (nothing to do with being high) do, and can stay in the body for up to 60 days in rare cases. There needs to be an actual accurate test for impairment, and they are working on it.
Again, that’s the sticking point- under the influence.
I live in Colorado and things are mighty grand out here I’ll tell ya! You can actually be a responsible adult, and purchase a legal substance, and use it, and NOT be a criminal! Its absolutely freeing and fantastic.
As for jobs are concerned, that issue is actually before the Colorado Supreme court right now (and should be decided on in June or July) of it being unconstitutional in the state of Colorado to strictly fire someone for pot use, when it is legal in the state.
Colorado actually has a provision in its constitution which entitles users of legal substances (including alcohol, tobacco, etc…) of the job, to be legally allowed to use those substances off the job, without fear of loss of job. Basically, Its illegal to get fired for off the job use, of legal substances. This current lawsuit will decide if cannabis is included in that statute, seeing that it is now also a legal substance.
Now, that doesnt mean Universities still wont have policies against it, they will. It is still illegal for underage (under 21) people to use or possess, and its illegal to use in public.
Really, folks, the sky has not fallen, actually its Higher than ever! lol
The business climate in Colorado is being effected.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/24/colorado-businessman-blames-stoned-workers-for-relocating-firm-to-south/
Yup, in a positive way. Colorado is one of the fastest growing economies in the US. And love the “fair and balanced” source there Tex, lol.
You didn’t click the link, I take it.
Lol, I did just now out of curiosity. I’m not sure the business of sculpting is a valid judge of economic productivity. Though I’m certainly not bashing sculptors..
If the article doesn’t explain this to you, I give up, I’m out.
“foxnews” explains it all.
Certainly does, they actually present news and remain the most watched.
Okie dokie
They remain “most trusted” in the polls as well because of their attempt to show both sides.
lol. Just wait man. You’ll see. I wonder how fox news felt about their own poll the other day that had 51% calling for legalization. Fox news poll. Just like every other poll out there now. The time is coming.
Here’s the source that Fox News sited in the article: http://www.9news.com/story/news/local/2015/04/23/little-spider-creations-marijuana-employees/26241529/
Appreciate the link, but really, we are trying to base “suspected” economic woes on a tiny sculpting company called ” the little spider” being supposedly pushed out by pot? How about maybe their sculpting isnt any good and no one buys it? I mean, I have never seen their work, but this could easily be a possibility too, no?
First there is a drip, then a leak, then a flood.
In plumbing, absolutely. Really, the Colorado business climate is flourishing right now. Have you been to Denver lately (oh wait, I remember your story about not coming back here, lol..) The place is exploding with growth everywhere, with all types of business.
Left there 40 years ago.
When I got back to Texas I nailed my feet to the ground, with brief excursions outside the state.
As long as Texas doesn’t go the same route, I am more than happy to see people that want that in their lives to relocate to Co.
Lol. Unfortunately, Texas is indeed moving this direction Tex. Several lawmakers in Texas are for this, and introducing bills to that effect. I believe polls in Texas are also favoring around 53-55%. But I promise you, its nothing to fear. You wont even notice it unless you want to. Life is as normal in Denver, as it ever was in Oklahoma. Well, with the exception of more snow, more sports teams, mountains, no tornado’s, and the legal pot part. But there sure was plenty of the substance in OK too, regardless of the law.
I don’t think Texas is moving in that direction at all. The only one’s that propose it are the donks and they are an even smaller group in our state legislature than ever. No donk has won a statewide election in Texas since 1992 and not likely to change any time soon.
We do treat our death row inmates to the highest grade pharmaceuticals on the way out, though.
Wasting.Time.
LOL!
I like Texas DoC… they keep the line moving.
That has been true for quite a while, until this year. We have had numerous stays so far in 2015 and several of them have been cop killers.
I should go, should I go? I’m going….
Then there’s the sticking point of still being under the influence of… you can roll one up in the privacy of your own home before heading into work but once you get there and jump in your dump truck and are at fault in an accident… Policy time.
just what this country needs. more nickel beer and free love.
psst….. ain’t no such thing in the real world . it doesn’t exist.
What in the heck does nickel beer and free love have to do with cannabis? This is not the 60’s..
You can keep both if you ask me. Nickel beer = gross. Free love = gross. Cannabis = yay! lol
I guess legally you can smoke marijuana, if I’m reading this correctly in Colorado. However, there seems to be a paradox in the off work/on work use of drug. Say you’re a doctor or a truck driver and you stopped using drugs/drinking just before your shift started and report to work. One minute into your shift, you start the truck/go into the operating room: you’re involved in an auto accident and kill three people/cut an artery and kill a patient.
What then?
Is it legal to kill someone?
I’m not arguing against someone’s choice to use drugs, legally or otherwise. That’s their choice. They can do what they want to.
But I think we can all agree that excessive alcohol and drugs use has an affect on our mental awareness. Drugs affects some more than others.
There has to be limitations: rules and policies. Because, otherwise, we are putting other people in harms way. If not, that’s a hazardous work place.
There are plenty of policies and rules for its use. Adults 21 and over, no use in public, no driving high (just like no drinking and driving), and of course you’re not allowed to go into work high, off ANY drugs, or alcohol. Why does everyone automatically assume that if you decide to use cannabis, that you are AUTOMATICALLY doing this and then going into work? Thats just like saying that everyone who drinks, also drinks before going in to work. So, I see no paradox. You can legally use the substance in the privacy of your own home, but that does not mean you are legally allowed to use and then walk into work. If your workplace finds you are impaired at work, under ANY substance, they have a right to test and fire you. The only thing about the pee test for pot, is that it can only tell if you’ve used in last 30 days, and doesnt actually test for impairment levels in any way whatsoever, and that needs to be fixed (which some companies are working on). So a better test, a breathalyzer test for cannabis, would be a much better solution for all parties involved.
I really am confused as to why some people are just blatantly stating that if you use cannabis at times off work, then somehow you must be always going into work high. This is false.
And Sam, in your scenario of doctor/truck driver killing someone…what happens when they kill someone accidentally anyway? Is that legal? NO. Its not. And they will be fired from their job and probably prosecuted for manslaughter regardless, but especially if it was found they were actually under influence of a substance at work. Its legal to drink, but not go into work drunk or impaired in any way. Same principle.
But trying to state that just because cannabis is legal for off the job use to adults, that “what then? is it legal to kill someone too?” is just plain asinine, really. Did Colorado, Oregon, Alaska, Washington, and Washington DC legalize killing? No. They legalized cannabis.
What it seems like many folks are forgetting is that cannabis is in every single one of your states, already (it never left), and being used by many of its citizens regardless of the legality. Why then, are people assuming that just because a state chooses to recognize a substance as legit, one that is being used by millions of people worldwide anyway (and which its use of has NEVER killed anyone directly by using, in thousands of years. This is documented, even by the very own National Institute on Drub Abuse website), and bring it out of the criminal markets, that the said state is somehow creating more of a problem, or god forbid legalizing killing?
Its something like 25 states now (or more) that have legal pot in some form, and everything is just fine in those states concerning that product.
Daddy R,
I’m not disagreeing. What I’m trying to point out is legal or not, people will test the boundaries. And testing the boundaries will have some people taking it to the limit, to the very end, to a precipice. We have countless examples of people who don’t know when to stop. Now, that’s not everyone but there are some who will.
Here’s proof that people will test the limits: you said, “What it seems like many folks are forgetting is that cannabis is in every single one of your states, already (it never left), and being used by many of its citizens regardless of the legality.
To agree or disagree about the use of marijuana doesn’t matter: the question is why would someone disobey the law and use cannabis? Some people have illustrated is that they are exempt and that there isn’t a limit for me, that rule does not apply to me.
Why would people disobey the law and speed? Or not wear their seat belt? Or to publicly protest without a permit… One could easily argue these are all potentially more harmful to both the user and the bystanders involved, than using cannabis in privacy, even if its “illegal” use. People do plenty of things everyday the law says not to do. I’m not disagreeing people dont test boundaries. Laws against a perceived morality do not work. Laws to stop consenting adults from practicing in a certain behavior do not work. People seem to be forgetting that many, many people are still going to jail everyday/year for this substance, that is less harmful than aspirin. Really. Jail. For what?
Saying people should not use a substance that has been used throughout the entirety of human history, all the way up to modern times, only because a select, racist and bigoted government (in the 1930’s) decided to make it “illegal,” is shortsighted to me. One could easily argue the government has absolutely no right whatsoever to make the use of something illegal that has that sort of precedence about it. Just like they should have never made alcohol illegal (a vastly more harmful substance). At least they were able to admit their alcohol mistake within a decade. Pot prohibition has unfortunately taken many more decades.
Edit: Appreciate the conversation though Sam, really. 🙂
Why speed? Great question.
Why wear seat belt? Another good question.
Public protest permit. Valid.
All of these support what I’m saying. Some people think some requirements are ridiculous/absurd and become dismissive. These are some of the same people who say “why should stop using alcohol/drugs in plenty of time for it to exit my system.” I’m sure if the law makers thought this would happen, we wouldn’t have these prohibiting laws.
Everyone has a responsibility to be responsible for others.
If using marijuana does nothing for you, medically, then why are people doing it? They’re getting something out of it. If not, it doesn’t make sense to do something for nothing.
I’ve never used marijuana. But I have been in a room when a group of people started smoking. After about 30 minutes, I started feeling strange. So, I left the room and I left the house.
“these are some of the same people who say ‘why should stop using alcohol/drugs in plenty of time for it to exit my system?” I’ll give you that there are probably a few folks out there who do that (few and far between though, guaranteed), but those that do, are already doing that, regardless of legality in their state.
Why speed? Probably shouldnt, but sometimes you either dont notice it, or are trying to move a little quicker.
Why not wear seat belt? Why not? Its an adults RIGHT to wear one or not, just like motor cycle helmet. (now underage, then requirement should stand.)
Public protest without permit? should be allowed to peaceably assemble regardless of permit.
“Everyone has a responsibility to be responsible for others.”
I disagree. Everyone has a responsibility to be responsible for themselves and their families. Trying to be responsible for others is what gets us into these messy morality laws to begin with.
Drug laws had nothing to do with folks being high in the workplace. Lawmakers made these laws to control policies, trade, and certain races (no joke. I’ve done much research into the beginning of, and continuation of, drug laws.)
“If using marijuana does nothing for you, medically, then why are people doing it? They’re getting something out of it. If not, it doesn’t make sense to do something for nothing.”
I actually do use it medically, but regardless, folks use it because it helps them take the edge off, much like alcohol, but without all the side effects. So they do use it for something, of course.
I should have said “excluding medicinal reasons” I hope I didn’t offend you.
No offense taken! I use it to help mitigate back pain I’ve had for 10+ years.. and It helps! But, in all honesty, I would use it anyway. I enjoy the release and insight I feel I gain from it also.
Daddy R, I, too, appreciate the conversation. I’ve always believed it’s important to see other people point-of-view.
Thanks for engaging me in thoughtful commentary.
Absolutely Sam! Regardless of our other commonalities (or not, lol!), we are ALL Sooners!!!!
…
https://youtu.be/_VrFV5r8cs0
Great Clip! Eastwood will be badass forever.
Clint’s the man.
What I don’t get is how franchises and whatnot are going to be forced to do this. Rockies players aren’t going to be the only players in the show who can toke. Walmart employees in colo. are going to be the only ones who can? I think its unconstitutional to force a company to change their national practices for one state. Look at hobby lobby. They didn’t have to change. And yes I understand that religion/abortion is different from weed legalization but it’s in the same ballpark
Be forced to do what exactly? Accept a formerly illegal substance as now legal, and therefore required by the state constitution to be accepted as “acceptable off the job use?” An actual impairment test for all types of impairment (legal or illegal drugs, alcohol, or even tiredness), should be administered if an employee is suspected of being impaired at work. All of those types of impairment can be equally dangerous, and currently, we do not test for impairment at all. We test for “whats in someones system.” Well, we all know folks who can handle liquor better than others, or those who can use cannabis and act normally vs those that use cannabis and get stupid. What’s in your system doesn’t necessarily equate to impairment level. An actual motor and mental skills impairment test would be much better to catch all offenders. I know I’ve been so tired before that my impairment level was just as bad as myself being drunk. But bodily fluid tests do nothing to catch this type of impairment.
Now, on to the point about forcing companies to follow policies or laws in one state, but not changing their overall national policies..
The best example I can come up with off the top of my head is taxes. Walmart has stores in every state. Well, some states dont require a state income tax, and so Walmart wont take it out of your check. Yet, in states where there is an income tax, Walmart takes out the money from your paycheck, and you have no say. You cannot tell Walmart, “hey, I’ll pay my own state income at the filing date.” That wont fly. They force-ably take it out. But they dont do this in the states with no state income tax. So, totally different policies, in different states, even though you have a “national policy.”
Laws are laws, and if you decide to have a business in a particular state, you must abide by that states particular laws. Now, in terms of whether or not there is conflict in state vs federal law, that usually falls to how you view the 9th and 10th amendments of the US constitution. I imagine the US supreme court will have some sort of say on this in the future…
There is no such test. You can only set minimum levels as acceptable. Employers do so with alcohol. You don’t have to be at the levels that are set as illegal to drive in order to be fired for using alcohol on the job, remember. And that’s true even for unionized jobs.
True, there is no such test. That’s what I was trying to allude to, maybe that wasn’t very clear in my post. But there should be an actual impairment test developed (which would work for all reasons for impairment.) Then, if suspected employee fails impairment test, you proceed to test them for drugs, alcohol, prescriptions (also drugs), etc… But that way you get proof first that they were actually impaired on the job. And if it turns out they were just tired, then they get to keep their job, unless the problem became habitual.
Thats what they do at roadside tests. They don’t immediately do breathalyzers, they do impairment tests first, they the breathalyzer to show that the alcohol was actually impairing their abilities. I had been pulled over one night in Norman in college around 2008, because I had taken a corner slightly too fast. Well, Unfortunately I had been drinking a decent amount. They gave me two roadside tests by two different officers. Passed both, and they let me get back in and drive home, because I was not impaired (though I have no doubt that I would have failed a breathalyzer. Lucky, I know. And grateful.)
There is no chance in hell that the Colorado Rockies will have players toking and it be ok. You get traded, fire up some doobs with the fellas, hop a flight the next day to your new team, get drug tested and they’ll say “oh its ok, he played in Colo”. Or a businessman burns one, wakes up, drives to Utah, rus a red light, gets pulled, seems weird, gets taken in and tested, and “oh its OK, I’m from Colo”
Colorado Rockies probably refer to the MLB for testing procedures and nothing changes for them just because they are from Colorado, I agree. Until this is a national thing, businesses like the MLB, and any other, can continue to test. I am honestly not sure how this will play out for them if the Colorado Supreme Court rules in July that the legal “off the job” use of cannabis falls under is constitutional protections, and therefore an employee cannot be fired from their job for strictly off the job use, and no impairment at work. Will be interesting to see…
The Utah example you gave, yea I’m not sure how that one works for the argument since he would be under Utah law. But, harking back to the days of alcohol prohibition, some states were wet, and others were dry (even counties within own state often differed). If you left a wet state with alcohol, and got caught with it in a dry county, it didnt matter if it was legal where you were from or not. Its where you got caught.
No it isn’t. Freedom of religion is in the constitution, freedom to test for drugs isn’t. That’s why it is left up to the States.
Why didn’t we learn from Prohibition?
All of the opponents of pot would be surprised by how many people the admire use pot. Those folks just don’t do it in front of you because the know your attitude.
I see all your posts. You know “great” people who smoke. I know a bunch of idiots who I wouldn’t trust as far as I could throw em. Every roommate I ever had did it and some moved on to heavier stuff. Quite a few teammates did it all the time as well. Good people but I would never hire em. Just because it’s legal here and there don’t mean all of a sudden it’s gonna be nationwide. You guys keep talking about responsible adults. Most of the country ain’t, so…
I am sorry for the representatives of cannabis you’ve experienced, but I am also sure you have experienced folks who cant handle their alcohol either. Plenty of “Great” people use or have used cannabis, all throughout recorded history.
And as for the nationwide thing, this is a generational change. The national polls are averaging 51-57 percent for legalization currently, and this is with the older folks (over 65) included. And most of them are still against it. Under that age, the percentages go way up, per decade. So right now its something like 70 percent of 18-34 yr olds are for it, 60 percent of 34-45, and like 35 or 40 percent for over 65. (I am spitballing numbers to give an example only, these are not exact numbers.)
So nationally, yes, its only a matter of time. And did you say that most of the country is not responsible adults? I would argue the opposite of that probably, lol.
Tell that to the many on welfare who have zero interest in getting or finding work. Tell that to all the deadbeats who have gazilions of kids and no interest in caring for them. Tell that to all those that want handouts and only interest is more and “me”. You point to one good person and I’ll point to 100 wastes of space
If this is they way you view your fellow citizens in society, than there is nothing more I can say here.
Exactly. Nothing more for you to say. But you keep living in your haze while the rest of the world continues its downward spiral
Oh I could keep going.. Just no need.
Daddy, I couldn’t agree more. Wow! We can actually expect people to be responsible adults.
Clearly, if the job requires it, some testing is appropriate, but there is no need to test or fire secretaries or clerks or baristas for weed. We shouldn’t allow folks to impose their view of morality on others. That isn’t a free country.
RBear, good point. I’d be interested to know what insurance companies are charging businesses in Colorado the same as they are companies in other States.
I guess you could test it this way: get in a car with a driver who is under suspicion of using alcohol or drugs.
Like they have policies against the use of alcohol?
If I was still running my own company, I would regularly do drug testing. Anyone tests positive, they are gone. And I wouldn’t do business in a state where pot is legal.
Unfortunately then, you most likely wont be doing business in the future, as the nation is rapidly moving towards legalization, whether you’re for it or not. My guess is 10-20 years and its legal nationwide. So what then? Moving out of the nation?
I would just do a pre-employment drug screen and routine random drug testing. I would also make it known up front that anyone testing positive for drugs one time would result in immediate automatic termination of employment and I would make each employee sign an employment contract stating such. I have no use for anyone who smokes pot or does any other drug.
I can understand why you are no longer running your company. You are entitled to your opinion, but you’d find out that employment laws are changing and the costs would drive you out of business unless sobriety of any kind was critical to the job (e.g. train conductor).
I wouldn’t pay a drug user to work for me in any capacity, even for janitorial work. Drug users are typically unreliable. If pot is legal, fine. People can smoke up. They just wouldn’t be able to work for me. They can work somewhere else. And critical thinking and awareness were absolutely essential in what I do. Can’t be toking and be counted upon to be able to do what I would want them to do. No use for drug users of any kind. In addition to that, I’m morally opposed to all drugs, and I would only want to employ like-minded individuals, so there would likely be many more issues in hiring someone who participates in recreational drug use than just the drugs. I wouldn’t want them representing my company in any capacity.
As I said, good thing you aren’t running a company. Your’s is an attitude, nothing else.
They would work elsewhere and be fine employees. You don’t get it because you have blinders on. As I said, I know a lot of successful people who smoke pot. You do too, but don’t realize it. Too bad for you.
“I have no use for anyone who smokes pot or does any other drug.”
1. Super-harsh. These are ordinary people too and most are no different from responsible drinkers. Of course you have your select “yahoo’s,” but you have those in every area of life.
2. I’d be willing to bet that you know someone in your life, that you appreciate very much and maybe even love, that uses pot without your knowledge. Millions use it, and most of them, you’d have no idea.
3. Do you drink caffiene? Eat sugar? Drink beer? Those are all drugs too, and are far more addictive and harmful than cannabis.
Yes it’s harsh. I have a very personal reason for being completely anti-drug. And spare me the caffeine, sugar, beer, etc. commentary. I also don’t drink alcohol or drink caffeine. I have drank both before. I’ve also had several people close to me whose lives have been ruined by drug use (including pot). I’ve had more than one family member die due to alcoholism and drug use. I’ve seen firsthand what those things do, pot included. I don’t trust anyone that uses drugs or abuses alcohol and have no use for them. I am 100% for pre-employment drug screening and random drug testing and would absolutely fire anyone who worked for me that failed a drug test, even if it was for pot, regardless if it was legal or not.
One HUGE difference. Only one is illegal
Reason being? Its illegality is not based on science in any way, shape, or form. Its based on scare tactics, misinformation, racism, bigotry, and lies that led to “laws” that originated in the 1930’s. Seriously. Many very-well done documentaries exist on this subject.
And its not illegal where I’m at.
It doesn’t matter why, who, what, where or how. It is illegal. That may change. It may not. But right now it’s illegal most everywhere. If I wanna drink, I don’t have to hide
Okie dokie.
And it actually does matter why, thats how and why things get changed. So I guess you could care less about the prison system raging a massive racial war against people in our society and using “drug laws” to lock them up? The who, what, why and where or how, ALWAYS matters. Its life. If those didnt matter, then by your standards, slavery would still exist. It was once legal right? Why question it? The drug war is putting people of color behind bars at a drastic rate, and has been doing so for quite some time. And serious questions need to be addressed.
“If I wanna drink, I don’t have to hide”
Nope, but folks that did sure had to hide in the 1920’s. Remember prohibition? Why did that end (may not matter to you seeing as its a “why” question)? It ended because people revisited why it was made illegal, who made it illegal, what was there reasoning, and how it was working (or not working). And so they used their answers to those questions to change the law, and remove prohibition because it had been deemed a failure.
Potheads want it changed. The rest of us dont. I wasn’t alive during prohibition. Booze is legal now. Weed aint. Everything else is posturing and justification
HA! Nice retort. “potheads.” classic. So I guess 51 -55% of the American population are “potheads.” Got ya.
And thanks for the name calling, it always shows itself eventually in this type of conversation.
Oh, and cannabis is legal now, in 4 states (and counting) recreationally and in 24-25 states medically (and counting).
Wow. Haha. You’re gonna bust out the whaambulance cause I called yall wittle potheads? When it’s legal, it’s legal. Til then, I guess you’ll have to keep climbing on your cross for the rest of you
No whine. Just stating the obvious. Call me what you want boomer.
Well, I guess since all people who want pot legalized are potheads, than all people who think beer should be legal are drunks, and all people who think gay marriage should be legal are gay. Thats a nice theory you have there.
Especially in a law-suit happy state like the People’s Republic of California (where I live). Even if done on their own time all a lawyer would have to prove in the case of an accident at work that there was a degree of after effects that carried over to a work day and as an employer you should have been more discerning.
Degree of after effects? Cannabis causes no such hangover like alcohol.
The Supreme Court of Ohio actually just ruled two weeks ago that a failed employee drug test for pot (pee test) cannot be used to deny an employee worker comp benefits anymore for accidents. The reason for the ruling was that the urine tests are not scientifically proven to tell if a worker was actually impaired at work, or had merely ingested pot within the last 30 days. And until that is appealed to a higher court and possibly reversed, that is the law of the land. Any lawyer in any state will refer to the Supreme Court decision in Ohio.
Civl court does not necessarily operate under the same precedents or premises as criminal court. In the case you mentioned the key is doubt was raised in the testing procedures and that it cannot be proven that the worker was impaired-the worker being the plaintiff and the “wronged” party. If the plaintiff is the “victim” of an accident of a company’s employee and the plaintiff’s attorney may use the other side of the coin and say there is proof that people are impaired by using pot and the lingering effects may last beyond x amount of days and even if there was, say 5% impairment it was enough to place fault on the employee. As far as the Ohio court ruling- its only jurisdiction is in the state of Ohio and has no bearing on any of the other 49 states. National application is derived from federal courts. Does not mean that case won’t be studied as a way to argue a similar case in another state, but it has no binding on the other states.
Very well stated. You are certainly correct that a state decision does not become the true “law of the land,” as I had stated, and I should have chosen a better choice of words; but, I meant it in a colloquial way, as in your reference towards the end that lawyers across the country will use this Ohio decision for their own arguments and once the precedence is set, often times other courts follow.
True true. Except for CA they prefer to march to the beat of an accordian (because it’s so different than a drum).
Better get ready because legalization is virtually here already. In reality, the hypocrisy is astounding. An athlete can’t receive any benefit that the non-athlete student doesn’t get, but he can’t smoke dope, something a high percentage of non- athlete college students do. Heck, bet a lot of coaches and administrators do too.
It’s time to quit making criminals out of pot smokers. It’s time to drop most rules because they aren’t enforced consistently or uniformly. Most of all, it is time for beer drinkers to quit being hollier than thou about pot smoking.
I don’t smoke anything, but I know a lot who do and they are good folks. They aren’t irresponsible and they don’t endanger others.
I’d rather live in a free society.
Kids on scholarship need to understand and comply with the established rules or pound sand. Their choice.
Even though I disagree with you on adults being able to use this substance if they so choose, this, I totally agree with you on. If its not allowed per team rules, then so be it. Most of those kids are underage anyhow.
That has been my thought every time such things occur. If the people under whose authority one places themselves says do this or don’t do that then either comply or get out. A frequent lamentation of mine is how many in today’s society have forgotten the life skill of submission to authority. To often submission to rules or authority is seen as weak or humiliating. A mentor of mine while in the Marines talked at length of being reliable and man of my word and one who could be trusted- all which call on in part of setting aside my wants and seflishness.
Student athletes- especially those under 21 are hardly allowed to go and get slobbering drunk.
Persistent adolescent pot smoking permanently lowers IQ. A study over more than 30 years provides the science.
http://www.pnas.org/content/109/40/E2657.abstract
Forbes Magazine translates the laboratory-speak into plain English here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/
IQ loss from pot smoking can be as much as 8 points. That is almost one standard deviation from the mean. Let’s say the pot smoking kid has an average IQ at 100. The pot smoking devalues his IQ to 92. I pity that poor kid.
Today’s pot is potent – it is not the weak stuff of 1970’s Cheech & Chong jokes. Today’s pot is about 4 times stronger than previous generation.
“Society” really needs to move toward protecting the brain, not damaging the brain.
Alcohol is no better – it also does a number on adolescent brains. Not to mention DUI and DWI endangering the public, drunken brawls, etc.
Most careers, heck, most work-a-day jobs in the future will require more brains, not less.
The University environment is supposed to make one smarter. Gotta protect your brain cells, nurture those little puppies. These rules about pot (if that is the violation) are backed by science.
Any updates on Marquez Overton’s status or progress?
He is still on target to make it and to be here over the summer.
If it hasn’t been mentioned, R.I.P. B.B. King. He had a good run to 89.
https://youtu.be/BPlsqo2bk2M
Good looking out. I had not heard that.
I was misinformed, it was Ben E. King of Drifters fame. B.B. King is in hospice.
http://www.localmemphis.com/story/d/story/bb-king-hospice-health-blues/37114/Sfw7kQPqEk20fqZUx-qBEQ
Thank you for the correction.
Just saw where Mr. B.B. is in hospice. Sad day when the last of the Three Kings (Albert King, Freddie King and B.B.) of blues guitar passes.
Yessir.
I loved to go see Freddie at the Armadillo World HQ back in the day, he called it “the house Freddie built.”
Freddie King did ROCK! I saw him open for Leon Russell back in the day at the old Driller stadium. Early 70’s. Comes on stage and opens with “Going Down”. It was awesome!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_ONyukSLqA
Love me some Texas Blues
The man could flat out play and sing.
Some Texas blues is alright… They can keep that SRV and shuffle bs.. No thanks. I do appreciate the TVZ though, so thanks for that Texas.
I love that shuffle. A friend of mine, a jazz drummer, told he tried to do it and was astonished to find it was actually difficult.
I had a friend play in a band for a few years, still is actually but I just never got into it. I am not a fan of the boogie woogie. I can get into the Chess catalog, but I’m fairly picky when it comes to my tunes. I love it all but I also love to critique it.
One man that never got the recognition he deserved was Gatemouth Brown. Whenever he was in town I was there. He always had a fascinating and diverse play list.
https://youtu.be/v2Xrxqt3ovE
Never listened to him, I’ve seen the name before. I enjoy the way he approaches those strings. Reminds me of Charlie Christian, I was expecting clarinet at any moment.
Charlie Christian! Very nice!
There is another dude who was real good too ( I know, there are so many.) He was out of Muskogee I think… His name is avoiding my mind at the moment… Barney Kessel!
This one of the best jams I’ve heard in Jazz.
https://youtu.be/uAgwe8lSTgw
Nice.
Thank ya good sir!
How can you not like Mr. Boogie John Lee.
JLH isn’t really boogie-woogie, he is mostly blues.
You want boogie-woogie, you got to go with Little Richard or Jerry Lee.
https://youtu.be/2bqeSGpP9PI
https://youtu.be/lidFipyLG8k
agree but he was mr. boogie of the blues – left off the woogie.
SRV = Awesome. No one like him and I doubt there will be anyone close. All the Kings are on my itunes. Can’t get enough of them and that music.
Don’t like SRV??? But you like Texas Blues? What did I miss?
He played a lot of different styles. Give him another try.
I’ve never seen Freddie, Ive seen Leon quite a few times. Sounds like a great show.
And you never will see Freddie, either.
He died tragically back in the late 70’s. Banged his leg on some equipment when packing up after a show. Blood clot went to his heart.
Yikes.
I have heard that story before. I had an Uncle die almost exactly the same way.
Geneo to the Patriots!
Surprised me. Not surprisingly, Kiper thinks he sucks.
They still drafting?
Wishing all former Sooners the best.
3rd round just wrapped up. 4th – 7th rounds tomorrow starting at noon, I think.
Hope Williams and Thompson get picked up. Blake Bell and Julian Wilson too.
Wiliams and Thompson should be picked early tomorrow. No telling with Blake. Some teams love his potential. Others hate his inexperience. Julian will be a FA.
I despise the NFL, but will always wish the best for Sooners, even though I will never see them play again.
Not too surprisingly ESpin has DGB listed from Missouri on its draft board.
He is from Missouri.
I thought I saw it mentioned here in the past day/s that he would be listing UM as his school on draft day.
Just checked Soonersports and they don’t have him listed as a draftee, either.
http://www.soonersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=31000&ATCLID=210058672
If true, my bad. The last I read was he’d claim OU allegiance. But that was weeks ago.
Yeah, but what do you wanna bet that if he is a bust, or especially, if he becomes a Justin Blackmon head-case washout, ESPN will list him as a former Oklahoma player in all their coverage? If he ever has a Justin Blackmon/ Aaron Hernandez perp-walk arrest, they’ll have the OU logo in the corner of inset of the video and list him as “Former Sooner WR Dorial Green-Beckham.”
I agree Blackmon has had his issues, but comparing him with Aaron Hernandez? A convicted killer? Even if he did go to the aggies!
I’m not comparing them in any way. I am using them as real world examples of players who have been shown on Sportscenter being arrested/question by police or sitting in a courtroom at a hearing.
The point was that given ESPN’s treatment of SEC teams vs non-SEC team, negative things are emphasized or minimized based on which category into which you fall. So, in the event that DGB were to find himself in a situation where his mugshot is being released following an arrest sometime in the not too distant future, I would not be surprised at all to hear ESPN commentators refer to him as “Green-Beckham, the Tennesse Titan and former Oklahoma Sooner.”
I got ya.
Bsaeball team has now lost four straight games it’s beginning to look like we aren’t going to make the NCAA tournament.
It was really hard to decide which draft coverage to keep up with tonight. The choices were SECPN or NFL Network with Coach Strong as a guest analyst sitting there with a stupid shortwhorn grin on his face all night. Texsa still sucks!. Good luck to Jordan in Miami and Geno in NE. The Basil Hayden’s Bourbon tonight made it all worth it though.
Wait…whuh?
They had Strong as an analyst on the NFL channel? How bizarre.
David Shaw was on during the first round. He actually had lots of good things to say.
I was unaware the draft is showing on any channel other than espn..
Interested to see if Suh can help impregnate some nastiness into phillips. Could be a helluva tandem!
Uh…ewwww!
HA!
OU offered 6’3″ 213 lb. WDE Andre Anthony out of NOLA Edna Karr.
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1386290/highlights/215340377/v2
BOOM! Welcome to the world champions Geneo!
World Champion Cheaters!!! Haha, j/k. They probably would have won even with over-inflated balls.
You mad, bro? 🙂
I got excited this morning seeing all the comments, thought there was news… Nope just more politics… Sigh.
In my defense I did point out a new offer. 😀
I did see that. That’s a big kid.
Edna Karr is one of the best programs in La., even if it is a small school.
At that size as a junior and with his frame and athleticism, I could see filling out to 240 easy.
He has really good length. He looks very good rushing the passer. I hope we are recruiting him as a DE and not trying to stand him up too much. He is ahead of his years when it comes to rushing the QB.
I’m thinking he could take Striker’s position.
Hey, I pointed out some draft selections! lol
I saw that as well. I gave you some internet high fives. I appreciate you Defending Colfax.
Yea, I finally just had to. I usually avoid those conversations on here, seeing as its a football board. But this time I let myself loose! ha!
Anyone watching the fight tonight??
Who ya taking? I would love to see Manny knock Money’s ass out, but not sure thats gonna happen! Anyone?
It’s Manny. He has a champions heart. Mayweather is a great defensive style fighter but in the end, just another thug. Manny knows he has been ducking him for years and agreed to a 60/40 split with him on the small side just to get his chance.
I sure hope you’re right!
What a fascinating story Ang Pambansang Kamao is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_Pacquiao
Posted this below, but its kind of buried… So I’ll post it agian, cuz its too good not to hear!!! lol This is a jazz jam by the great Barney Kessel out of Muskogee..
https://youtu.be/uAgwe8lSTgw
This conversation isn’t complete without the inimitable Albert Collins. One of my all time favorites. This song is classic Collins.
https://youtu.be/9tJxsGchPSM
This is one of my new favorites! Albert Collins radio on Pandora, here I come! lol
“Here she come draggin in…smelling like a liquor store!” HA classic!
Thats really cool how he lets his guitar speak at the end. Great effect.
“uh-uh-uh no wife”
Check out his song Mastercard. Great story teller.
I really did create an Albert Collins Pandora station…So far its excellent!
Good choice.
Wish you could have seen him up close, besides having a joyful presence the mounds of callouses on his fingers were awesome.
Awesome to see Geneo get drafted! Hoping to see more of OU’s boys get a look in the final rounds.
I’ll say Blake Bell to Lions in 7th (they seem to always take TE’s..). Rip to packers to replace Kuhn (eventually) in 6th, and who else is there? J. Wilson? I’ll say cards take him 5th..
Good guess on Rip
nailed it! ha!
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/25170560
These luckeye’s are getting too cocky for their own good. I’m counting down the days till we shut them up. Revenge for ’83
I have a feeling in 2030 ‘twitter’ will be a common reference to overactive bowel movements.
Daryl Williams drafted 102 overall by the Panthers. On a side note, NFL.com has him listed as OG even though I think he’s more than capable of playing RT in the NFL.
sam malone ‘died’ with the end of cheers………..he lives on with mel kiper………..good for petty and surprised that there weren’t any ou highlights in there
Was kind of hoping Petty would go to packers or saints and sit and learn behind a great before he got his shot. I think he could be good.
I’m surprised to see Williams go before Thompson. I thought tyrus was expected in the 2nd or 3rd round. Anyone know why he’s still available?
Don’t know, but getting whipped by the Clemson DE couldn’t have helped.
That’s a good point.
I’d always heard Williams was the better prospect because of his work ethic and leadership. Thompson is more athletic, but has similar measurables as Williams, so he’s always been graded slightly lower.
Ya I heard Dusty on radio say Clemson game combined with occasions where lack of effort being pretty evident on film.
Williams is a hard worker and has a nasty streak to boot. He might end up inside but betting he makes the team.
Blake Bell to the niners in round 4….. Go get ’em belldozer!
Nice!
Congrats to a great Sooner.
surprised he went that high or should I be……….in any event, he changed positions and only had a yr to develop into something………congrats and hope he kills it
Good for Blake!!!
Congrats to the BellDozer…how about Rip? Congrats to DW, JP, Tyrus next?
ESPN had nothing but positives about Blake and his potential (how could you not, but still). Even showed some of his QB highlights! Kind of miss Blake the qb..
That’s huge for Bell.
Wonder if the 49ers are drawing up a Bell/Millard goal line play?
Backfield of Kap, Hyde, Millard and Bell sounds pretty tough, especially around goal line.
Really happy everything is ok Brandon!
LOL never fails, but gotta be happy for the dozer
https://twitter.com/gabeikard/status/594560309664174080
Those two are twins. Really. Wow.
Mixed emotions regarding Bell’s draft. Glad for him….but now I have to keep track of the 49ers to see how he does. I live in Cen Cal so I get caught in the crossfire of 40whiner fans and those of the Probation Nation aka Oakland Faders..er Oakland Raiders.
how’s the water situation
Hey, nobody knows about drought like Okies know about droughts! They should stop wasting a trillion gallons a year into the ocean for the stupid snail darter. Environmentalists are always concerned about nature being unspoiled but refuse to acknowledge that 99.9 percent of all species that have ever existed have become extinct, and that it’s a part of nature when a species that can’t adapt, and plays no role in an ecosystem, dies out. Most species that have died out were never known to man- and never will be. And, on top of that, there are probably more of them in reality still remaining that they are unaware of, as seems to happen every time they make some obscure species sacrosanct simply by virtue of its supposed impending extinction.
And I still haven’t heard of any proposals for desalination plants.
Finger on the self-destruct button and a fatal case of dumb-ass, all in one.
I was just fixing to bring that up. They do actually have 2-3 proposals going throughout the state (which is not near enough, but one near San Fran I think..) but they are all private enterprises. I am shocked there has been nothing in the public sector concerning this. Could have the water problem fixed in 5-10 years if they went this route now. Desalination is the ONLY way that Israel gets any fresh water, so its certainly doable, and would get cheaper the more they build and use it.
Also, if the entire nation would go this route, we could build plants in every ocean state, and supply water inward towards everyone. If enough nations did this, would this possibly combat rising ocean levels? Maybe at least a little.. AND, hopefully no wars for water, which is what some predict will be the reason for wars of the future.
Same as Saudi Arabia.
I am constantly amazed at how feckless and incompetent political leadership in Cali is.
I used to want to run for office in OK, and I had this idea called the O-Tex water project. Whereas Oklahoma would join* with Texas (I know, I know) to build water desalinization plants and pipes to ship water up through Texas and Oklahoma and beyond. Selling the water as you filter it out to other states… No more worries for farmers, no more draining lakes and reservoirs, and plenty of monetary growth for the States involved in production.
*Of course, since Oklahoma does not border ocean, they would have to pony up like 70% of production costs, and possibly a 70/30 type split in potential revenue. But eventually it would pay off and then some, AND, water fears would be over.
Meanwhile, T.Boone Pickens used to his right of way authority for his windmill farm to drain water from the Oglala aquifer. Of course he sold his windmill farm when the federal subsidies ran out, as it was not a profitable business. Don’t know how much money he made off of the water he siphoned from the aquifer.
Yup, and I’m pretty sure he is into the business of buying up remaining natural water supplies and using it to extort more money. And yes, I said extort, This is water for goodness sakes.
And the fact he made money off that water is just flat out wrong. Out here is CA they were having some people/companies pumping the water table low in order to sell the water. The likened it to an oil company pumping oil. Something as life sustaining as water shouldn’t be used as a commodity on the free market (good grief I sound like a socialists). We have some huge agri-companies on the west side of the valley that have some questionable ways of getting water.
Politics without integrity equals corruption supreme…When the righteous increase, the people rejoice, But when a wicked man rules, people groan.
call us mexico junior…its that bad.
LOL!
Sounds more like Venezuela. They have out of control inflation so they just boosted the minimum wage by 30%. Unfreaking believable.
It would be a heck of a lot cheaper then a high speed train that isn’t high speed and doesn’t even travel anywhere important. That will be over 100 billion, but in reality I don’t believe for a minute it will ever be completed despite the fact that they have already spent billions of federal dollars which are coming out of our pockets along with their own goofy state’s money.
The train issue was put to CA voters and just shows how stupid the majority of CA voters are. They drank the kool- aid that it would create jobs (never mind they never said what kind of jobs). What those same stupid voters and the politicians that pimped the plan have not realized is that even after the $100 billion is spent building the %&#&% thing that CA will be on the hook for about $2 billion in upkeep and subsidies. NO PASSENGER LINE IN THE US HAS MADE A PROFIT SAVE TWO THAT RUN ON THE EASTERN SEABOARD. I hate this state.
I think we still have a couple open spots in Okla. if you’re interested. 🙂 Get the hell outta that place!
Dude I was born and raised in OK and I wouldn’t mind living there or in Prescott Arizona. I left OK when I joined joined the Marines and later married a fourth generation CenCal farm girl. I couldn’t pry her out of this state with a crowbar and I’m sure as heck ain’t good looking enough to woo her out. I’m stuck … A prophet in an unholy land.
LOL!, Well at least you landed a farm girl….all is not lost. 🙂
It is enough that the people know there was an election.
The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people
who count the votes decide everything.
~Joseph Stalin
I think he was the founder of the modern CA political state.
Sadly, I agree with you.
Another thing, if Gov Brown would get off his butt and approve the dozens of gray water projects that cities are lined up to launch the problem would be less severe in the much more immediate future. Many of those projects can be completed in months as soon as they get the green light.
RE that bullet train (CA will have to rename it since it has an aversion to fire arms) . My Dad’s company installed a $5million solar farm next to the winery. The route goes right through it. He is in negotiations to settle right of way compensation with the train committee (which mind you is made up of Brown appointees and not elected people). Looks like the company will get about 45 million for loss of the farm and loss of projected value of power. If they move the route one hundred yards to the west then the whole situation would be moot. To make this even more wacky- Gov Swartzenegger – the biggest political douche bag in CA history- signed into law that by 2025 (?) half of CA’s power must be from renewable sources. And they want to take out my dad’s solar farm? Why does this conger up the image of a dog eating its own poop?
A desalination plant or two in Cali is a no brainer and should be a federal program (south texas too)..any region the provides so much to the US food supply should have access to water if it’s on the the coast
I would think every municipality along the coast would want to get off the water merry-go-round and pony up the local bond money for a desalination plants. When people site how other arid nations use such plants for water supply they forget that their water consumption is about 10-20% of the average CA household.
LA area is about to have a huge one go on line in July. I cannot site the projected output but it will be a respectful % of their usage (maybe 10% is what I recall) if they continue conservation efforts.
I think those protected species in the delta aren’t even native to CA. The amount of water to keep the wetland and delta animal life thriving is a mystery. One thing many don’t realize is that huge amounts of water have to be sent into the delta and towards the ocean to keep the salt water from the SF Bay from washing in to the delta and spoiling that water supply.
Not specific to you, paganpink. Just a general link.
http://blog.disqus.com/post/17273693406/disqus-for-politics
Dude…its real bad. We had less rain than last year and 90% of it fell before New Year’s Day. I heard there is a big desalination plant going on line in LA in July but that metro area will use it to supplement their water deliveries from the middle and upper counties of the state. I heard on the local Cen Cal radio show that the wells that went dry last year never came back on line this year (water table still to low or collapsed) and already there are another 1000 wells that went dry this late spring. We have had 15 days this year over 92 degrees and we are just in the second day of May. Northern CA might fair a little better as their rainfall was closer to normal.
The next big fallout of the drought will be some serious power shortages as 40% of the states electricity is hydro electric power. The lakes in the mountains (made by Edison Co.) have a series of lakes that flow into the one below it to generate power. The water is then recirculated and pumped back up to the higher lakes and used again. Those lakes are a few feet from being to low for that and are at levels that generally do not get this low until mid-September. There was no snow measurement last week as the survey site is bone dry. Usually in a drought year that site would still have about 3 to 5 feet of snow. The lack of snow and an unreplentished water table is no bueno.
For the OU lacks talent folks…Starting the 5th round Bama 5, Ohio St 4 OU 4…not counting DGB…
OU lacks QB talent…at least last year.
A team that was 10th in rushing offense and gave up the fewest sacks in the nation (6) lost 5 games…most of which included a pick 6 for the other team.
Knight, Thomas agreed. Mayfield? Was Big 12 freshman of the year…remains to be seen on him. So, no, they don’t lack talent at QB in Mayfield’s case based on his freshman year.
“Lacked” for sure.
Hopefully, you are right about Mayfield. I’d feel more confident if he hadn’t gone from starter to 4th team at TT. Perhaps he will be really good?
There were other factors hurting TT. The players around Mayfield etc…
Is this overall draft picks? If so, Fla. State had 9 last I saw. But at least we are near the others. 9 is crazy!
Need to update your list….Rip to GB. 🙂
Ohio State would have beat us by 30 last year!!! Just like Clemson did!
Yeah, yeah, just like Bama did. Anyone can beat anyone depending how you play that given day. There are lots of talented players out there. My point is that OU has top tier talent every year. They may not play consistently or coaching may be sub-par at times, but OU has the talent to win a title every year.
Thompson to block for Peterson.
Sad week we lost two of our greatest artists, Ben E King and BB King yesterday RIP!!!!
B.B. is still with us, though I don’t think for much longer. He is 89 and is in hospice care.
Still curious who is in trouble and who is transferring.
Rip will be a perfect eventual replacement for Kuhn
Yep.
His game vs osu last year was very Kuhn like
update/s added
I’m so damn happy for Rip and Blake. Both going in the draft instead of the FA route tells us how highly their teams thought of them. Rip’s story should be a movie. It would be better than “Rudy”. Oo-aa!!
The Packer’s definitely got themselves a gem in Ripkowski. I obviously root for all Sooners to do well but I will root particularly hard for him. Just a hard nosed, blue collared football player who is extremely athletic and obviously as strong as a bull. I think he will be more missed this year than people might think IMO.
from walk on to scholarship player to NFL draftee……….that my friend is seizing opportunity by the throat
It absolutely is! Wish we had a coordinator who utilized him more though. He’d be a nightmare as a h back in Riley’s system. But if anyone knows how to utilize all his weapons its Aaron Rodger’s.
what happened to flowers during the spring ……..don’t recall hearing much if anything about him
Not sure. I haven’t heard his name really at all this spring.
Thought he got a dent or ding in the Spring and they held him out.
I think you are correct.
yeah, great story……from obscure small town tx, to ou walk-on, to lambeau field……hope he sticks
That is the heart this team needs in all players. Talent is there but desire has to come with it.
They don’t call it “chasing your dream” for nothing…………
He’ll replace Kuhn. GB likes its FBs and uses them as part of their offense. Packers are a good spot for him.
Just read a story over at USA Today about a “heart broken” Landon Collins because he wasn’t the first safety taken in the draft or even in the first round.
I must have missed a great deal, but whenever I saw Bama play Collins was a non-factor and it always baffled me that so many talked about what a great safety he was. Must have been the sec-sec-sec thing.
ESpin too.
Wasn’t he the one who said OU’s Offense shouldn’t have been on the field with them after the Sugar Bowl?
One and the same.
It’s sad, yes east ex he was in hospice, but passed yesterday. I have a cousin in the NAVY living there in Memphis. She retiring in Aug 2015, 28yrs (Cpt-05) started as a E-1. Also will be receiving her PhD in Hospital field. We are proud if . So she is reliable, or you can Google. May they rest RIP.
Here is his official website.
http://www.bbking.com/
Much respect for your cuz, I was fooled by a news report on the radio yesterday when they said BB was gone. Googled it then and discovered they were all wrong, they were confusing Ben E. with BB.
Sooner ladies up 4-0 with 1 out and runners at second and third…..this one may not last long.
Walk Lauren, Shelby makes them pay! HA!
The only thing worse for those gals from Utah than this run rule game is, they get to come back and do it again tomorrow.
Maybe, Lauren will get a chance to hit?!?
If they keep walking Lauren, Pendley may close the gap on the record.
If Nicole can get on it makes it a lot tougher to walk Lauren.
True, but they walked her twice with Nicole on first.
Yes, but it wasn’t like they just walked her like Kansas, the pitcher just couldn’t help it, bless her heart.
I think she hit a guy selling popcorn once. 🙂
She did seem to be channelling Randy Johnson. :-0
true
84 after tonight. She was only a few feet away from 85 on her next at bat. Would put her in a three way tie with 2 Arizona girls (I believe) with her next one.
That was close, I thought it was gone.
Me too, unfortunately, crossing fingers does not work…
Never does, it’s an overrated technique. 🙂
So close…
https://media4.giphy.com/media/dC9fPvyxZfjz2/200.gif
Give that poor pup a tot…
Torture.
https://twitter.com/DrewBoylhart/status/594648690075242496
I would call it a good week for the Sooners in the draft.
That was quick.
Most teams have UDFA guys targeted and move quickly after the draft ends.
Blessings it’s good to be wrong sometime’s. Thanks.
https://twitter.com/Jordan_Esco/status/594671463845605376
Glad to see that.
He was a solid Sooner and team mate. His steadiness will be missed.
I’ll have to go watch him during camp this year! Nice!
let us know if your observations are drug-free or under-the influence…..lol
Good for him.
Anything about Q. Hayes getting a shot with the Seahawks?
Adam Shead gets a shot with the Bears.
Ok I just watched the Floyd tape and I love it. Physical, competitive to the max, and speed.
As for Kiondre Thomas dude looks like he is jogging but nobody is catching him. Technique is either raw or just lazy because of his ability. Either way speed kills
Refreshing to see Sooner Sports not recognizing DGB as a Sooner.
Many media outlets are, and that’s not a bad thing for OU.
Shead w/ the Bears
Savage w/ the Dolphins
Figured those guys would get a look in the FA market. Shead’s back was an issue.
Clippers – Spurs was amazing.
Who won?
Disregard.
Blake had a really good game though…
Clippers.
Yes. Yes, it was.
I’ve been a Clippers fan since 1990 (grew up just south of LA). I can’t tell you how happy I am right now.
Congrats Brandon. That’s great news. The NICU can be a tough place. I know from experience. You’ve got cute kids dude!
Heard some pretty wild things about that boxing match last night. Looks like cage fighting has made people forget how boxing works. I am a fan neither fighter but a fan of the sport, I was cheering for the knockout. We lost. Mayweather won a UD. But anyway, what blew my mind was the contrast of these two figures.
Floyd Mayweather gets so much heat for not being a good role model. Floyd is that guy who you wouldn’t want your son to be or your daughter to date. He’s a prick, everyone knows. But on the other end of the spectrum you have Manny Pacquiao, who becomes this white knight to end all evil, Tim Tebow’s cousin. Manny has a great story, if either of these men were a role model it’d be him
. But this is why we need a Floyd Mayweather(I almost said plural, ‘Mayweathers’ but one Floyd is enough, too many pricks as it is) as a reminder. Athletes are not role models. Professional athletes are not role models, college athletes are not role models. Musicians and actors are not role models.
There are some great people who hold some of these titles but they shouldn’t be role models for our children. I understand celebrities dominate the airwaves and have become a big part of the average American diet, but it’s not expensive to give your kids someone else to look up to. Kids have a flood of bad information daily at their finger tips and take it from someone who used to work in marketing, they want your kids.
Sorry to be so preachy I’m just concerned with the social media influence, the internet is a terrible place to grow up.
Floyd is the greatest defensive fighter of all time. The vast majority of his fights have gone exactly like last night did. Anyone who was expecting anything different has nobody to blame but themselves, IMO.
That’s exactly why I do not like Mayweather as a boxer; he doesn’t engage in the toe-to-toe stuff which in my mind is a huge part of being a good boxer. Granted, he’s got the defensive ploy down, like a rattlesnake, strike and retreat- but, my dislike for his style of boxing pales in comparison to my dislike of him as a person.
Can’t blame you in the slightest. My explanation wasn’t in any way a defense of Mayweather or his style. I think you are in the vast majority of people who do not enjoy watching him fight.
I was able to watch it.. Not as entertaining as I’d hoped, but..these fights rarely are.
You hear about Manny’s “well timed” shoulder injury he was complaining about after fight? And to have him claim he thought he was winning was a little laughable.
They shouldn’t be role models, but too many people make them so. Mayweather is possessed of admirable talent, but seemingly little good moral fiber. That’s why many people admire & look up to Pacquiao – he has the talent and the good ethics. Those who honor the chance to make a positive difference with their fame are more worth our attention than people like Mayweather who take that same opportunity & throw it in the garbage and our faces.
on another note, sorry about your blues……….was hoping for a 2nd round series with the hawks……….don’t know what it is about the blues and the playoffs but they can’t get past the first round the last few yrs………would think there is some real heat on the coach
Thanks, really appreciate the sentiment. Unfortunately the end of the season is a maddeningly familiar feeling here in The Lou. Must be what the Pokes feel almost every December.
A prick? That’s putting lightly. The dude is a woman beater. Five charges attest to that. How anybody can be a fan of such a terrible person is beyond me.
Prick might be putting it lightly but I just don’t bother thinking of insults for someone who means nothing in my life.
Mayweather vs Pacquiao
FWIW…I know there are many Christians here and yet out respect for this being a sports blog and not a religious one, I won’t post my take on the fight here because of the heavy Christian over tones but…for anyone who would care to, you can see it on my facebook page under my name…(send me a private message)…and then send a friend request if so inclined. My apologies if this not allowed here. If it is not, please let me know and I will delete at once.
I’m not sure what religion has to do with two men fighting. God has no sports allegiance.
Don’t know how familiar you are with this particular boxing match but as the original poster implied, there was a huge contrast between the two men. The reason was because the one was a Tebow type of professing Christian in his sport. The later was a Christian, model citizen, and politician in his country while the other was an abusive womanizing hedonist.
I am the OP and I made mention of Tim Tebow because he and Pacquiao are both Filipino. Tim was born to missionary parents. It was a joke. You give too much credit to being a politician. You or I could run a campaign. The difficulty goes down when you’re the richest guy around as well. Also most model citizens, like myself, pay taxes. Don’t believe everything on TV. Tu Pac wasn’t a real gangster and John Wayne wasn’t a real cowboy.
My apologies for not realizing you was the OP. I responded via email which did not show that. Pacquiao was not merely running for office, he served as a representative in some capacity (senator perhaps, can’t remember). You asked why or how I could associate the fight with Christianity…I plainly told you. Pacquiao is very outspoken, vocalizing his faith whereas Mayweather is very much the opposite living the selfish life in the world to the max.
I understand. I usually don’t post about politics or religion. Pacquiao has a good story, shows what you can do with determination. Just not a role model for me or mine. Putting faith, and it is faith, in these celebrities to be the best human beings possible is silly. They’ll disappoint you. Just as you can disappoint yourself. We’re all human but they are who they think you want them to be for pay.
Trust me, I know the weakness of all humanity. That’s actually what Christianity is all about and for. It is not about some club for those who think they are perfect, it’s about people who realize they are NOT perfect and need help. In fact, many times we get offended, let down or hurt by professing Christians more so than any others but that’s another story which is not appropriate here. LOL
amen
Well said sir
Thinking about yesterday in sports:
Game 7 Spurs vs Clips
The Derby
The Fight that Could Have Been
AND TEXAS STILL SUCKS
Louisville had a record 10 guys drafted and second only to Florida State’s 11. We only had 6. Had my uh-oh moment. Seems Charlie Strong can recruit talent and also develop it. Hopefully our new hires get us back to doing both as well.
OU Softball about to start on FCS. Paige Parker in the circle.
#92 for Lauren.
NVR MIND. Nicole left early
Yeah, that sucked. NEVER leave early when Lauren is at bat.
https://youtu.be/1UpzvvqHEXc
LOL!
Oh gawd, Mark Harmon is hawt. *fans herself*
She’s all relaxed now and Utah has a limited number of pitchers.
Yeah, Life is all good!
I didn’t watch the game so not to disagree with you but I was just at the OU website to check on Chamberlain and according to the box score, she didn’t get a hit. So I hope you’re right (you’re talking the Utah game, right?) and I’m wrong.
She knocked it out of the park but Pendley was called for leaving the base early so it was taken away.
Really! Bummer. Thanx for explaining.
She hit it, but Nicky Pendley got caught leaving the base early on First, so 3rd out, and hit didnt count… SUX to be Nicky at that moment!!!
N. Pendley with a 2 run homer, Sooners up 8-0.
Grand slam from a bench player….12-0.
Another bench 2 run homer….14-0.
And now just to see if Paige can finish what she has started
Bench getting in some good work.
PERFECT!!!
Yep, 12 SO’s and a perfect game.
How awesome is this, especially for a frosh
A frosh approaching an NCAA record at that.
Paige Parker pitches her 4th perfect game of the season!!!
Awesome! Truly friggin’ awesome! Geez, if we just had a #2 that could clean up we’d be a real contender for the NC again this year. Maybe Paige can carry us but that would be expecting a lot. Still an amazing season and it’s not finished.
Fantastic!
That young lady is…
https://media1.giphy.com/media/jdrgTfqvn40PS/200.gif
Gold. How long have you been sitting on that?
Just a few days.
Been busy.
what’s with you and tater tots lol