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Happy Friday!
Josh Smith: As far as we know, 2015 LB Josh Smith will be OU’s lone official visitor this weekend. It can be a little tough to gather information on Smith, because he doesn’t seem to be talking to media at the moment. But we have been able to confirm that Smith will follow up this weekend’s Oklahoma trip with an official visit to Oregon next weekend.
Van Jefferson: We continue to hear good things on this front and, again, at this point we will be surprised if Van ends up anywhere other than OU (regardless of whether his father is or isn’t seriously entertaining the OU WR coaching position). Simply put, OU did a good job of recruiting Jefferson and Lincoln Riley’s offense is an attractive one to play in for wide receivers.
Wide Receiving Speed: Just an interesting note we heard from a source regarding OU’s direction at the wide receiver position. Last year, OU went after bigger guys (Jeff Mead, Dallis Todd, and Mark Andrews). Before that OU was kind of all over the map. Many of you probably saw that earlier this week, Lincoln Riley made his first 2016 WR offer to Baylor commit, Tren’Davian Dickson. We’ve been told that the offensive identity going forward at the wide receiver position is, “speed, speed, and more speed…not 4.5 or 4.6 kids…4.4 or 4.3 kids is the priority.”
A lot of coaches describe Baylor’s offensive threats as, trying to defend ‘four or five track stars.’ Apparently, Riley places the highest priority on speed and going forward you can expect OU to go after the fastest kids they can find. That isn’t to say speed isn’t always a priority for most staffs, but it isn’t always the number one priority. Many staffs look at size, or body control, or some other factor, but OU’s priority going forward is expected to be ‘blazing speed.’
Rashard Lawrence: Yesterday, Jerry Montgomery stopped by to visit one of the top 2016 defensive line prospects, Rashard Lawrence from Louisiana. As many of you know, Lawrence has already taken an unofficial visit to OU. Yesterday, we talked to someone who knows Lawrence well and we were told that, “Rashard absolutely loves loves loves Jerry Montgomery…he doesn’t have the kind of relationship he has with Jerry with anyone on the LSU staff, and he says that himself.” Normally we’d count OU out on Louisiana’s top defensive prospect, but that’s tough to do when coach Montgomery is involved.
Kyler Murray: If you’ve paid any attention in recent days, you know that Texas fans are starting to feel pretty good about their chances with Kyler Murray. And some TAMU fans are starting to freak out a bit. Not much to report on the OU front, but we just wanted to pass on the note that the Sooners are indeed still recruiting Murray. We have been told that Lincoln Riley is in regular contact and is working hard to persuade him. With the primary pitch being that his offense and Norman are the best place for Murray. It seems like a long shot at this point, but we just wanted to pass along the note that we’ve been told Riley hasn’t given up quite yet.
DaiShon Neal: We spoke to recent OU visitor and 2015 DE DaiShon Neal’s mother about their trip to OU this past weekend. She had a glowing report of their time in Norman and their experience with the coaching staff. Neal’s mother said, “We had an outstanding trip to OU…impressed with the coaching staff and the academics that OU has to offer. Coach Stoops is a class act!” We also asked DaiShon’s mother about their interactions with coach Montgomery since he would be Neal’s position coach and she remarked, “Coach Montgomery was awesome. Very genuine in his interactions with us as parents, as well as with DaiShon. He paid attention to details, which were important to us as a family and which were important to DaiShon as a student-athlete. DaiShon vibed well with coach Montgomery.”
According to his mother, Neal has an official visit set up to Nebraska this weekend and has plans to go to Oregon next weekend. We asked Neal’s mother if distance was a factor and apparently Neal’s mother lives in Houston. In fact, DaiShon was raised in Houston and only moved to Nebraska a couple years ago to live with his father so that he could continue to develop his football skills under his father’s tutelage (Neal’s father is a former player). But Neal’s mother said, “OU is the closest school to us (in terms of proximity to Houston) that he is considering.”
– UPDATE (Fri., 11:52 am): Utah State makes the hiring of Josh Heupel official. In addition to an offensive coordinator title, Heupel also carries QB coach & assistant head coach titles in his new position.
– UPDATE Fri., (3:31 pm): One-time OU wide receiver target, Ryan Newsome, has committed to UCLA.
– UPDATE (Fri., 5:28 pm): OU stopped by to see 2016 star LB, Caleb Kelly. Kelly is very high on the Sooners and has already been out to OU for an unofficial visit.
– UPDATE (Fri., 6:49 pm): TFB has learned that OU’s lone expected visitor this weekend, 2015 LB Josh Smith, will now not be in Norman. We’re aware there is a report out there that the visit has been rescheduled for next weekend, but at this time we have been unable to confirm that. We’ll of course continue to update you as information becomes available. But for now it would appear OU will be hosting nobody on one of just two remaining crucial recruiting weekends.
– UPDATE (Sun., 8:31 am): At the time of Louis Brown’s decommitment from Texas, it was thought he could be a potential option for an OU team obviously struggling to recruit the LB position in this 2015 class. However, on Saturday night Brown tweeted that he had committed to Oklahoma State.
– UPDATE (Sun., 8:37 am): Sooners also offered 2016 DT Chris Daniels (Euless, TX) yesterday.
– UPDATE (Sun., 11:35 am): Aware of the report/s out there regarding Van Jefferson and Ole Miss. But according to Jefferson’s own words, they appear to be false (at least for now).
– UPDATE (Sun., 11:50 am): Also just wanted to congratulate Riley Daniel on his commitment to Baylor today. Daniel is an OK Preps kid that TFB was talking about all the way back last summer, JY even did a feature on him talking up his talent. Very happy for the young man.
– UPDATE (Sun., 1:14 pm): Van Jefferson has told TFB that he will discuss things with his family and hopes to announce a decision later tonight or tomorrow.
– UPDATE (Sun., 1:35 pm): We know there has been a lot of speculation about Van Jefferson today and where he will end up. There were false rumors that Jefferson committed to Ole Miss earlier today. This may come as a surprise to some but we still like where Oklahoma stands but we’ll all know his decision pretty soon.
– UPDATE (Sun., 8:55 pm): Van Jefferson has committed to Ole Miss.
– UPDATE (Sun., 8:58 pm): Continuing what is proving to be a less than stellar (to say the least) Sunday evening.
– UPDATE (Sun., 9:12 pm): And not that it matters at this point, but Fotu Leiato has committed to Oregon.
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I hope Jefferson can convince his buddy smith to join him in Norman. I know the teaming up thing doesn’t work as much as we would think but I hope it works out for these 2.
I know it’s a long shot as you said, but I’d love it if they just put on the full court press with Murray. Stoops, Riley, Gundy, Montgomery all going in on a visit with him. Pipe dream as it may be, but Id like to see it happen. After they take care of putting on full court pressure with McGinnis and Smith.
If I have to bet the farm, I believe Murray will end up not being a factor in college and definitely not the super star most people believe he will be in college. I just wouldn’t get really worked up over Murray. I think Smith, Jefferson, Lampkin, Neal and Wariboko are more vital to OU than Murray…b/c of the risk/reward ratio that Murray brings to the table. Murray is at a high risk level for being a bust.
Murray is a “winner,” something Riley has specifically stated he wants in a QB.
I’m pretty sure everyone wants to recruit a “winner,” but this buzz word description of a QB doesn’t eliminate the obvious risks of taking a chance on a 5’8″ 160-170lb QB.
Also, it’s easy to win when you are playing with 25+ division 1 players during your high school career.
5’11” 180lbs
I’ve watched him play since he was a 15 year old sophomore, kid is a winner and makes everyone around him better.
Yes, yes…the kid has won many games during his HS career. He’s a “winner.” We all know that, and I don’t want to discount the guy b/c I believe he will go down as one of the best texas HS players…well…ever. I too have seen him play many times.
You say he makes everyone around him better and I agree. However, I don’t think you can deny that he’s played with some of the best HS players in the state of texas for the last 3 years.
I think he’s always had great skill players and lots of time to throw behind amazing offensive lines. I think that when we are both being honest, he’s a tiny dude and at least 2 inches away from being 5’11”.
These are the reasons he’s a high risk, high reward player. Dude could end up being great, but his measurables raise red flags of being a guy that does not pan out…at least based on expectations.
I don’t doubt he is 5’11”, even if others do.
I also don’t doubt he is a high reward/high risk QB that may not live up to expectations, we have seen that too many times over the years with “can’t miss” players.
To me his “measurables” are the numbers he has put up in the number of wins, the passing yards, rushing yards and TDs, not his physical stature. His offense had to carry the team this year, as it was a very down year for their defense. His sheer will to win is what carried them through the playoffs, having to come from behind in 3 straight games with two of those being decided by a FG at the end of the game and the other game against Skyline when they were down by 18 in the middle of the 3rd qtr. He put the entire team on his shoulders in that Skyline game and was one of the most impressive games I have seen him play.
Sounds like we are on the same page. Amazing high school player, the intangibles are definitely there with Murray…it’s the tangibles when it comes to prototypical QB height and weight (and some may even say arm strength…although I think Murray has a good arm) that make Murray the high risk, high reward type.
Which brings me to my original point, if we don’t get Murray, I don’t think we should be too upset b/c it is likely that he may not be a big factor (at least according to his expectations) in college.
My only hope is if he doesn’t come to OU that he goes to a school in another conference.
Best case scenario if he doesn’t go to OU, he signs with Texas to spurn the Aggies and then plays baseball to spurn the Horns.
I would rather see him go far away and give another conference fits.
Kids a winner, if we can get him great. Need that mentality here.
He’s everything you want in a QB, except he’s got a small frame. I have no doubt he’ll be good in college
I don’t doubt it either. He never ceased to amaze me with his ability to make any throw known to man.
I just don’t know why Murray would choose UT. They don’t run the spread. They seem to want more of a pro-style offense with a power run game. They recruited one really good and one average pocket passing QB in this class already. Heard is just a redshirt freshman and he was highly recruited. And Swoops is still young. Doesn’t sound like the place for Murray to me.
I agree completely. The fact he is close to so many recruits would be a big reason why he would choose them, outside of that I don’t see the offense fitting what he normally runs.
I posed this question to some people. Will Montgomery end up being Bob’s best position coach with the biggest impact on the program during his time at OU? Discuss…
It is a great question. I believe he is at or very near the top! Right now OUs best two position coaches and recruiters are at the two most vital positions. Monty on the DL and Coach B on the OL! If these two position continue to be coached and recruited well your team will always have a chance to be great!
I’d have to argue that Gundy is right up there.
Absolutely and Cale has been doing for 16 years instead of 2.
Agree on his recruiting success. I do think the two line positions ARE more important than RB. Still, let’s just keep ALL THREE and move forward…hoping we get some improved coaching elsewhere on the defense.
At first it was a bit dissappointing that Smith is the only visitor this weekend, but the more I thought about it I realized what better chance could you have to put the full court press on a kid that plays a very vital position, LINEBACKER! Should be able to focus on him give him plenty of one on one time and really make an impression!
I presume that while speed kills, the ability to catch the ball would also be a priority.
Give the OU coaches a little credit 🙂
Actually I think the plan going forward was to recruit kids with no hands. Less air resistance. More speed.
That priority would rule out Newsome, then.
Anything on John Houston?
I’d heard Bob was out there I believe yesterday maybe. Still seems like a pretty big long shot for OU, fwiw.
Probably a bigger long shot than Murray…
Mixon seemed like a long shot too.
Apparently Houston & his father really like Kish. While it’s very unlikely, if Houston becomes a Sooner Kish is back in my good graces
Might be one reason why Kish is still a coach at OU. Seriously.
Was he? When it came down to decision time, I think most people put us at a 50/50 shot with UCLA.
We are still in Houstons top 5
I have a lot more faith in Cale Gundy than I do Tim Kish.
Touché
Crazy talk.
lol
Kyler Murray would be an awesome get, but not very likely. I kinda like that Josh Smith is the lone OV. Bob, Monty, Cale, or Viney need to be in his ear constantly. Let him know how much OU wants/needs him
I don’t know Murray is so small. Texas can have him.
Can’t teach speed.
+1
Have to think Quick sets up nicely for this offense, IF he can get his hands in order. Riley didn’t have anyone on ECU’s roster that could run like Quick can, heck we haven’t had any of those in a while. Different type of speed
I believe John Humphrey jr will be faster
That young man can blaze.
I have only been able to find a little film on Hump, and I know his HS team wasn’t very good. My problem with Hump is his size. He not only has a small frame, he doesn’t have much on it. He’s underdeveloped in terms of muscle tone. I don’t think he plays next year, and I’m worried his the type of guy that OU brings in and he never sees the field.
Cannot deny his speed though…he’s definitely fast.
I actually like his frame, along with his speed and good hands.
I think he fills out nicely with OU’s nutrition and S&C program.
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/569951/highlights/206148375
Can’t argue with you there. Bet he could be faster in the 40, Quick faster in the 10/20 yard splits. His quickness is just crazy (no pun intended).
I would be surprised if he’s faster than Quick. If I’m not mistaken, Quick was the fastest guy on the team.
Quick and fast are two different things. Having a fast 40 time doesn’t always mean fast but it does mean quick.
Humphrey has ran a 4.2 twice. Hes likely the fastest guy on the team.
very true , CC.
Can’t teach tall either. Inside the 10, that speed has a lot less impact. Just MAYBE the new OC & WR coaches will put the tall ones in near the goal line…and inside the 5 maybe RUN the dang ball.
I looked at a Miss St forum thread where they were talking about how the TAMU boards were freaking out over Murray visiting Texsa. The MSU fans didn’t really know anything about Murray or his accomplishments.
Take it for what it’s worth, a rumor there is that Sumlin’s in home visit at the Murray’s didn’t go well at all. Everything from Dad not liking him to Sumlin not wanting Kyler to play baseball. Not likely we will ever know if any of it’s true.
I think theres probably some fire here. Lot’s of smoke anyway.
Thanks for the WR “blazing speed” note, and the comparison to Baylor. Is Riley going to implement an offense similar to Baylor’s?
I’m sure there will be some similarities, but it won’t be an exact carbon copy, if that makes sense.
Makes sense. With all these 4 & 5 WR formations, I hope Riley can coach up one of the four QB’s currently on the roster
That would be great, because their offense starts with the success of running the football.
https://twitter.com/OnLyHuMaN143/status/558651666698743810
We’re already closed at the DB position, right?
This would chap a lot of people’s asses if he is good enough for Baylor
agreed
I think he is good enough for us, just too late.
Sounds like it, any extra spots we were saving got scooped up for WR possibilities when we brought on Riley. Think we were fine with 1 WR, but stole a DB spot for a guy like Jefferson. Fine by me too
My understanding is that the door is not completely closed with Patterson. It’s definitely a wait and see situation.
I’m a little surprised that it’s taken us this long to realize the benefits of speed at the WR position and start recruiting it.
Call it a renaissance. Look back to the Clayton/Jones/Bradley days. Clayton and Bradley were both 4.35-4.37 guys, and Jones was no slouch. Jason White had a field day throwing deep to those guys.
I don’t think any of them ran that fast at their pro days.
I was gonna say I don’t recall any of those guys being fast except maybe Jones. Clayton wasn’t fast at all. I cant recall any WRs we’ve had here that were really fast.
Bradley was the best athlete of the three. I think Clayton was closer to mid 4.5 range than mid-4.3 range.
Sounds about right. Clayton was slow just like Broyles. Just an exceptional route runner and was great at finding holes in coverage.
Depends on your definition of slow
-Sincerely,
6.9 flat 40 guy.
LOL!!! You need a scholarship?
“Slow”…LOL, okay……http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Mark&l=Clayton&i=7066
NONE??? We’ve had 4 officially at 4.42 or faster: Jones – 4.42, Clayton – 4.41, Stills – 4.38, Bradley – 4.37. Heck, Saunders ran a 4.44. You must have really high standards to be considered really fast b/c I don’t recall those guys losing many, if any, footraces in the open field.
Jones ran the fastest official time, Bradley the second. Clayton wasn’t that fast. He was like Broyles, in that he could get open and catch anything.
“Returning three weeks earlier than expected to run the 40-yard dash,
Broyles eased some concerns with a 4.57-second 40. It was slightly
slower than his usual time but solid for a player still rehabbing.” – new article.
Just posting for info purposes
What type of info purposes, other than saying that Broyles’ “slightly slower than his usual time” was a 4.57 (nearly a 4.6)? I already knew Broyles was a 4.5 guy. Your replies are strange.
1. You never said an actual time for Broyles, so I was posting an actual time. Hence the “info” purposes. Clear enough for you?
2. Your post was completely wrong: “Jones ran the fastest official time, Bradley the second. Clayton wasn’t
that fast. He was like Broyles, in that he could get open and catch
anything.”
– Bradley – 4.37, Clayton 4.40, Jones 4.42
3. Don’t be an asshole…
What a pointless response.
“Slow”…LOL, okay…you and DC should hang out more often……http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Mark&l=Clayton&i=7066
I can’t help it. You do realize you are wrong on every guy, right? I’ve already posted the times of each, but this is just laughable. Go back and watch Clayton’s highlights, and then come back and tell me he’s not “that fast”. But you’re right, he could get open and catch anything. It’s a long, great debate, but IMO, Clayton is the best WR of the Stoops era, and perhaps all time; despite Broyles’ numbers.
^^^^WARNING completely inaccurate statement above.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft05/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2014424
Read this:
1. Bradley – 4.37
2. Clayton – 4.40
3. Jones – 4.42
My favorite trio of receivers we’ve ever had at one time. I remember quite a bit about them. Clayton’s unofficial was sub-4.4. I forgot his official got bumped to a “slow” 4.41.
Don’t forget we had Will Peoples too…although he posted a slow 4.6 at his pro day.
Now if we can get a qb like Jason, or Riley can develope a justice!
True, but Jason White could drop the deep ball on a Dime. I loved Jason, but Im always going to remember how rattled he was against USC.
Do you think Aaron Sims preferred walk on has a chance at OU. Kid is fast but real small.
I sure like his chances.
Not only is he fast, he’s one tough hombre and has great hands.
Love his film, looks like everyone else is in slo-mo. Has a lot of heart. Need that mindset here
To me he seems to have the same level of confidence and toughness as Jalen Saunders, only faster and smaller.
Wasn’t Clayton a 150 pound guy as a freshman? Smitty can put some good weight on him, I think he’s gonna be a good player
Hope he gets a chance to return punts next season. Don’t care if it’s Sims, Quick, or Trevor Knight: OU was awful last season on PR
Add to that I don’t want to see Shep get injured again
Me either.
I didn’t like it when they trotted him out for PR duty last year.
Fair catch duty
though the one he did try he reinjured his groin
True
Neither did his mom…
Perhaps, though his Bro’ Westbrook may serve in that role.
Ah yes, forgot about Westbrook
Heard he is Westbrooke’s brother, is that true.
Not sure, but they did play on a couple of state championship teams together.
Yes, they are brothers.
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If Sims was bigger, he would have been highly recruited.
Absolutely.
He’ll be the next Jalen Saunders…or thats my hope anyway
Any more news on the kid from NC that Riley was recruiting before coming to OU. Think his name is Hughes.
Montgomery tweeted late last night: “We are just getting done with the home visit in the (402) #justwaitonit
Last couple times he has tweeted #justwaitonit we have gotten a commit within the next week. Think he wrapped up Daishon last night…
We talk about elite recruits….. Monty is an Elite recruiter. 5 stars!
Almost feels like the only recruiter…. It’s not even close.
Gundy has had RB wrapped up for some time now. As Recruiting CO he should also be in on other positions. Like LINEBACKER!!!!
I agree…
Go get my little cousin Cameron Batson from Texas Tech. He’s small (5’9″) but really fast and twitchy. He was a Freshman last season and got some PT and was starting PR. Only issue would be Tech, again, not approving of a transfer
If speed is what Lincoln Riley wants, I would think Quick & John Humphries are doing high fives right now.
Friday Open Post always has me like
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I anticipate for the next couple of weeks, these Open posts are going to be blowing it up.
Me too.
I bet you live near a Starbucks
I’m alright with an emphasis on speed, just please never run the system from this past season of playing 3 slot recievers at the same time. That was just a headache. We need sizable WR’s to beat DB’s up.
You mean 3 slot receivers with no real outside receiver right? Shep can play all over but he should be moved to the slot at times
I went ahead and edited my statement to clarify that bigger guys on the outside are a must. I think it would help our small QB’s, too. Nothing is more frustrating than watching a small QB to find a small WR over the middle. That idea was just awful.
If those small slot guys can run sub 4.5’s and run good routes they will be open. Small QB might have to move in the pocket or slide out of pocket to see them but I think Riley will coach the QB’s up.
I’m a Riley optimist. I just don’t think WR’s who are sub 6′ and weigh in at 185 or 190 aren’t going to run with confidence through the middle of the field. That safety or LB just needs to lay into him one time and he’ll be focusing on avoiding the hit not the ball the rest of the game. Not to say a big WR won’t do the same but they’ll obviously be able to absorb more or return equal contact. Also, it would be a much easier target to hit.
If we spread the field, should open up some holes in the defense to catch the ball, or Perine up the middle
I have to disagree with the notion that a taller WR can absorb more punishment. A 6’0″ 195lb WR like Shep and Neal are solidly built.
Well Neal is more like 5’10 I will turn my tv off during the opener next year if he is lined up outside
LOL.
My point being he is solidly built.
Personally, I don’t care if he lines up as a wing back as long as the offense moves the chains, burns clock and scores.
Exactly. We’ve had some shorter WR’s do very well on the outside over Bob’s time at OU.
Um, no. No, you wont. I’m calling your bluff Zack! (turning off, and then back on immediately wont count!)
Funny. Neal dropped passes, runs shoddy routes and does not appear to get consistent separation. I’m done too.
Receivers that relish going over the middle are rare; regardless of size. I do like the tight end in that role though because of size; both height and weight.
Seams. I’ve seen it done, but it can be a risky timing pattern. Everybody’s got to get it right.
If they’re taught better routes or if the play calling has better routes then it should look a lot easier. I would like to know what the % of passing over the middle was last season. I honestly think there was a 2:1 ratio of completions vs interceptions last season. We have to find more success between the numbers.
We should have known that over-the-middle passing was doomed when Jordan Lewis destroyed KJ Young in the Spring Game on those short middle passes. Knight has always had trouble seeing the LB. I will say the deep middle with Shep was pretty nice up till he was injured.
Yep. I know a post ends up over the middle but for me that’s not in the heart of the defense.
I like this Jordan Lewis guy. Evans/Ronnell’s offspring? 😀
Knight won’t win the job. I hope he worked with a QB guru this year.
Very sad, he is a real good kid. He just doesn’t really have IT.
Our small QB found a big LB instead.
I think Shep wanted to play outside so that’s why they moved him there. I don’t think he wanted to play slot but I think he’s fooling himself if he thinks he’ll play anything but slot in the NFL.
Dude was out running and out-jumping DBs all season long with a so-so QB and 900 yards+ before he went down says he’s pretty good at either. If anything, it shows how versatile he is
Yeah but all that high pointing he has to do because of his size is why his hammy got pulled too.
And underthrown balls, but true
great Open Post this morning, feels like we have the…
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Daddy R, I went the symbolic route. After watching this video, it made me relive my worst fear, four street toughs following a guy wearing a beret, using the entire sidewalk. Thanks for the future nightmares 🙂
I know! I watched it after I posted it and was like, Damn, the 80’s.
I like the idea of speed but you do need some tall physical WR also. Would hate playing a physical team and getting shut down because they were not able to get off the DB. As for Murray, it’s funny how the Texass fans didn’t want him now they want him
In regards to the big recievers, that is my opinion as well. I love the speedy shifty guy’s, in the slot. But it’s nice to have that one outside threat on the deep ball..(Malcomn Kelly, Blackmon, Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, AJ Green, Kevin White)
That’s what Van Jefferson is.
So whats the plan with all our big WRs?
Hopefully play them.
Well, they’ve already moved Andrews to TE. I think there’s definitely still a role for Mead & Todd in this new offense.
is there a role for TE’s and FB’s in this offense? Really hope we use these guys, not only is it hard to coach speed its hard to coach height.
How did Jace Amaro fair as a flex-TE?
^ this ^
I believe Mead will end up being a good player and will play some next year. I think Todd never sees any meaningful playing time…maybe ultimately transfers.
Eh I disagree about Todd. I think he was the most ready guy we signed last year at receiver. It surprised me that he didn’t play at all. I don’t think that was any indication of his talent or ability just that they wanted to develop him some more.
Really? Huh…Todd caught 2 types of passes in HS…screen passes and flies. He did nothing else. He was extremely underdeveloped as a receiver. Also, while tall, he was not a very physical receiver in HS.
He reminds me a lot of Dahu Green, which I believe is some indication of why OU is not recruiting Green.
I believe Mead has two advantages over Todd…he’s faster and a better receiver/route runner/player. As soon as Mead develops physically, Mead will see more playing time.
I said most ready not best route runner. That said I thought physically he was stronger than mead and fast enough to play. But let me also ask this how often do you watch a HS kids film and see all different kinds of routes? Their highlights are going to be their best and most explosive plays not 8 yard hitches, 10 yard outs slants and other short possession type routes.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqb6tYbTElY
Rebuttal:
1. Probably stronger than mead…yes, but I wouldn’t label him the hulk
2. Not a particularly fast guy
3. Not a great route runner
4. Did not see the field all season (not even sure if he played on special teams…would have to look that up)
IMO – these things show that he was not “the most ready” of all our freshman receivers.
And norvell being fired and stoops recommending Texas to jump on him, tells me stoops doesn’t think norvell is THAT great. We will see but I believe Todd will be at least a nice player in the next year or 2.
I wonder how Smallwood will do in the new offense. I thought they should have used him more last year.
I think we could see Andrews in that Amaro role.
Fast TEs.
All of this information for free??? #blessed
Great work TFB!
Yes, love this site
Newsome is supposed to announce today. I assume since we’re not in the top 2 anyway that we shouldn’t even pay attention but for some reason our coaches thought we had a chance.
So I hope mike Hughes gets an offer by monday
I wish he would get one now
Will choose Texas, no doubt
Id rather get a commitment from Hughes than Newsome after seeing his vids.
I like all the speed talk, but I’ll admit that I cringe a bit when thinking of possible Raiders comparisons. They’ve made some really bad decisions coveting speed over everything else.
Exhibit A….. Darious Heyward Bay
Still playing in the NFL…
…realize that wasn’t the point…but just saying…
True… For what? The third or fourth team and he was a top ten pick if I remember correctly. I’m sure the raiders wouldn’t call that a “bad decision”. But what you say is in fact true.
No worries, but I hate that I just wasted 5 minutes of my life confirming that Blaine Gabbert was also still in the league before my witty comeback
I agree you can’t only look at speed but the saying speed kills is still true. I don’t think this post is saying that the only thing Riley is looking for is speed but it is a top priority. If guy can’t catch they are. It going to recruit him but a guy that can catch and runs 4.7 probably isn’t going to get open to catch at the D1 level.
I’m actually quite happy to read we are wanting more “speed”. I’m sure that having at least serviceable hands would be a given to play at a school like OU.
Please tell that to K.J. Young.
Kj young had good hands not sure how many drops he had but it was his first year playing college ball and reports all summer were he had the best hands in the wr group.
It’s all about what you do on Saturdays. He might not have had a ton, but he easily had the most on the team, and with less opportunities. But I agree, it was his first year. He’ll get better.
Quick had a ton of drops too though. I think young will do better as an outside receiver
a ton?
I can’t find the dropped stats anywhere but I saw him drop at least 2 passes each game when he saw 4 or more targets.
So he dropped approximately 50% of targeted passes? Didn’t happen…
I didn’t say he dropped half his targets. I said if he was targeted at least 4 times in a game then from what I saw he would drop 2. If he had 15 targets I still saw 2 drops.
In other words, you have no idea. My point is…he didn’t drop two passes a game.
he had a lot of drops…maybe not two a game but def more than one lol when you throw in drops by the number of games he played
I just wish sooner sports kept track of drops but neither does the ncaa. I guess they don’t want to troll the “student” athletes but I think part of the reason he played games 1 and 2 and then missed the next 2 was due to the fact that he couldn’t catch the ball. Same thing with Smallwood. I think both will bounce back but if they kept the stat, I would guess there was a combined 40+ dropped passes this year by receivers.
yeah our passing game was out of sync …more so when Shep went down
What I’m saying is no site apparently keeps track of dropped passes but he played 8 games caught passes in 6 of those games. And if the stat was posted out there my guess is he had 8-10 drops last year
So now he dropped approximately 1 pass per game?
I think you’re just guessing and pulling numbers out of thin air at this point…
Yeah, gotta admit I was a little underwhelmed with Quick this year. It’s completely irrational and predicated on how bad we all wanted him since his Soph year. Not his fault. If he was a 2 star everyone would be psyched about his upside.
RS Freshman…so second year.
I love “summer” reports. Always reliable at OU.
First year playing college ball.
If you’re a RS freshman, you’ve been on the team for 2 years. Do you mean: “first opportunity to play in games against other opponents”?
Fact is…he played in several games and had a lot of drops, which is why they started Quick at the end of the year.
First year playing college ball.
Yes he was not productive but I don’t think anyone outside of shepherd was all that productive and since the coaches are gone I will point the blame at them for the lack of production.
Neal had about 10 less catches than shepherd for half the yards, just in case someone wants to bring his name up as a productive receiver.
I like Durron but no he was absolutely not a productive receiver this year.
I don’t really know if I can ever buy in to a Summer report again?
Speed kills more effectively if you’ve got a QB with a strong and accurate enough arm to get it to them on time deep. Seems like that’s a bigger problem than finding speed.
Accurate y yes. We have arm strength on campus for sure but not sure how accurate. Though mayfield looked great in spring game and knight did not
yep hit some deeps but the majority will be quick outs or crossing patterns with one on one guys making the db miss and grabbing huge chunks of yards
The speed of Baylor caused us to play 10 yards off the scrimmage. Baylor put 61 on TCU, 45 on us. OU has had a lack of speed since Stills left. Love it.
IMO silly defensive strategy caused us to play 10 yards off the LOS, but I get your point.
If we played off, they would have scored 100 on us.
We did play off though.
I think BoomerDave means if we didn’t play off.
Well in that case I disagree. I don’t know if we would’ve done better enough to win, but we could’ve at least increased the degree of difficulty and allowed our pass rush to have a chance to get there.
I corrected myself
If we had pressed, maybe that would have given us that extra 1 to 2 seconds needed to get to Petty.
not if we disguised our coverages with safety help and added a nickel…they might have ran better on us but you can mix that up and take chances rather than just let them throw quick outs and mark down the field and drain you cb emotionally
Saunders and Shepard raise their heads and cock an eyebrow at you.
Okay that’s fair.
no snark. Just having fun.
I know. You are right.
True, Mike has no answer…especially when it comes to the speed of Baylor.
Clemson had both speed and height.
To me, especially in the spread, “size” is the last thing I’d look for in a WR. Sure, getting a WR that is a stud in other areas AND has size is good, but I’d never take a big kid that is lacking in other areas, over a smaller kid that isn’t.
depends on how small..
Get this kid an offer ASAP!
Me? Thank you, but my eligibility is used up.
Oops, your pic wasn’t showing up earlier. lol
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welp Im sold
Yes, I want a hamburger now. lol
Me too!!!!!!!!
I miss Hardee’s. None out here in AZ.
I am all of a sudden hungry for an all natural burger.
Looks delicious
I think I’m gonna need hands on proof that everything is all-natural in that commercial.
Ummmm. no yoga pants necessary:-)
That last shot of the guy with the sprinkler hose was classic.
Oh my goodness!! Time for a burger and fries
I’d go all natural with her!
No.1 guy that will benefit from Lincoln Riley’s offense is Joe Mixon
No. 1 Guy that will benefit from not being suspended, Joe Mixon. HA! just playin. true though
I might argue it’s Baker Mayfield, but I see your point.
In my mind, the only way this team doesn’t average 45 points will be due to the O line’s inexperience.
Easy tiger. That is a pretty lofty expectation. I think we’ll see improvements from last year, but keep in mind, we were 11th in scoring offense last year at about 31 points/game. I’d like to see us get that up to 35, maybe 38 if everything goes right, but I don’t us getting much higher than that.
We averaged 36.4 points per game this season.
I think he’s referring to just the offense.
Yep.
Total offensive TDs + FGs = 34 points a game if you round up.
Point: we never had trouble scoring points in general…we had trouble scoring points against good teams/defenses. Also, we have to have better offensive efficiency. Adding 4 more points a game to our average is negligible…if you don’t efficiently score against good teams.
I know for a fact I saw something that said we averaged about 31 points per game on offense, and were ranked 11th in the country. But I can’t find that now. Not sure if that were before or after the bowl game, but it was definitely after the OSU game. I’ve talked about that on here, and at other boards. Not sure why ESPN, where I think I got my original data, is different. Maybe they weren’t calculating it right before, and changed their formula. I dunno.
In 2014 OU scored 473 points in 13 games to finish #20 in the country. That is an average of 36.38 points per game. In the 12 regular season games we scored 467 points to average 38.9 which was #5 in the conference and in the 9 conference games we scored 333 points to average 37.0 points per game which was #3 in the conference.
I think it would be more realistic to set a goal of 40.0-40.5 for the season which is a little more than a field goal per game. To do so would put the Sooners in the top ten in offensive scoring based on 2014 numbers.
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/27
http://www.big12sports.com/fls/10410/pdfs/football/2014OverallStats.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=10410
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=979415
Thanks for those stats. My thought of 40-45 is based on having a more efficient offense, meaning a few less three and outs, interceptions, and running more plays.
ESpn 36 a game. Baylor at 48…I don’t think 45 is unreasonable given less three and outs, more plays and a better defense. 40-45.
In 2008, with one of the best, fastest, most efficient offenses in college football history, we averaged 51 ppg. That included dropping 60+ points in our last four regular season games.
I’m sorry, but we are not going to approach 50 ppg next season. It’s just not going to happen. We’d be very, very lucky to get to 40 or just over. And given our schedule (away game at Tenn, a tough D UT team, at KSU), I just don’t see it. 45 ppg would put us in the top 5 of team averages, looking at this season. That would be quite a turn around considering we are installing a new O, breaking in a new Oline, trying to find a QB or make an old QB “work”, and possibly turning over some of our WR group that will be playing.
Two years from now? Maybe in the upper 40’s if our QB is already on campus. But next year? I just don’t see it.
Perhaps a little optimistic on my part. But this year we left a lot of points on the field. I don’t care about KST. Last time we played there Knight put 40 on them right? In light of the fact that OSU didn’t miss a beat on offense using three QB’s there is no reason why OU shouldn’t improve on last years 36 a game. Perhaps 45 was a little too optimistic 40 ought to be the average.
I might argue it’s Vance Bedford… but we’ll see.
I’m going with mike Stoops.
Truth! Mike and Jerry have got to get this defense turned around. A Jim Leavitt would really help.
Bob Stoops hopes it’s going to be Bob Stoops.
Or Mayfield
or Thomas
Thats what I was thinking. Mixon should be a nightmare coming out of the backfield for passes one on one with a LB
Okay, who wants an LB that hits like this!?
http://youtu.be/89-yq2jlnnc
He didn’t wrap up. With today’s runners, you can’t just hit them; you have to wrap your arms (legs) around them!
I’d like to see that antelope try and take out Perine the Beast!
Yeah, he hit high. The only way to knock down Optimus seems to be to hit him low.
And bring a friend or three!
BBQ antelope. Yummy.
Was that Perine on kickoff coverage?
Always been a Terry Tate fan myself.
Ain’t he the one in the office setting video for sexual harassment or something where he went around destroying people?
Yep!
Maybe that’s why their rugby team is called the Springboks.
just as long as the refs don’t mistakenly flag for targeting and kick him out of the game
Would love to see Mark Andrews in the Flex-TE role next season
I’ll allow it.
He could easily be that big slot guy like amaro was at Tech. He is already 250 pounds and Meier 243.
This blog is great! Look forward to reading the Brainiacs everyday now. Super K was right on the money about Jim Leavitt and would be awesome linebackers coach for us. As I said before the holidays, I feel like 2015’s gonna be special. We’re playing downhill and just need to keep this momentum going. Coach Montgomery earning every penny. Recruiting is key, and looks like we have a great coach, player’s coach and recruiter in Coach Montgomery. Ring a bell…..just read chapter 6 of Coach Switzer’s new book. Also, still waiting on you to get some 3X shirts for us big guy’s. Boom. Wow…I laughed so hard at Bad lip reading video I was crying. Gotta keep this rolling guy’s….Boomer!
Sooner!
Note to Big XII Defensive Coordinators – Go ahead and start game planning to jam our receivers at the LOS and completely shut down our entire offense.
L thnx bai
Don’t think jamming WR will stop Perine
If the WRs can’t fight through a jam, it will absolutely stop Perine against a good defense because they’ll be able to load the box…
Hard to jam stacks, motions, slot players, etc. There are many ways to beat press.
Also, if they whiff on press coverage and we have speed… They’re toast. Go routes all day.
You’re correct. We can easily go 8-5 again because most other teams have slow DBs.
I’m going to choose to not feed the troll anymore than I already have…
So anyone who doesn’t bow down to your infinite wisdom and expresses an opinion that differs from yours is a troll? Good to know…
I’d like to run an offense that doesn’t homogenize position groups, because then you can leverage different things. If all of your WRs are pure speed guys, what do you do against a team that can keep up with your guys? You lose.
Screw it. I’m bored today, I’ll bite.
You said the opposition would play press coverage against us to “completely shut down our entire offense”. Let me show you why I disagree.
1. A defense cannot press every potential pass catcher on every play. There are strategies that do not allow press coverage. Stacking WR’s is one. Routes out of the backfield, matchup issues, etc.
2. Press coverage does not allow for secondary run support. If you’re going to press every WR, we would spread them out and run Perine right over them. It would be hard to stop the run without secondary run help.
3. Press coverage can leave you vulnerable. If you press across the board, meaning you’re in 0 coverage (straight man-to-man), you are susceptible to being beat over the top. If any of the WR’s beat the press coverage, the DB would need to be faster then the WR to catch up and make a play. If not, a simple go route would beat the coverage.
4. No one said anything about all of the WR’s being “pure speed” guys. They simply said that faster players would be preferred over slower ones. Speed will be valued more than it has previously. Doesn’t mean they will only recruit track guys that can’t play WR.
5. You said below that a good defense will be able to load the box and play press coverage at the same time. With the correct offensive alignment, this is impossible. You cannot load the box and press 4 WR’s at the same time.
Excellent reply
4) “We’ve been told that the offensive identity going forward at the wide receiver position is, “speed, speed, and more speed…”
I read that as, our primary concern is getting guys who are fast. We’ll teach them to catch when they get here.
1-3) You’re essentially picking apart my criticism for being too simplistic, and responding to that is a road that never ends. Football is complicated and there’s nothing I can say that you can’t say “Well, all you have to do about that is…”
My point is, the less diverse our receiving corpse is, the easier we are to defend…
5) Press man against 4 wide, you’ve got 7 available to put in the box to go against 5 blockers. If you can cover the 4 receivers and have safeties with run/pass responsibilities, you’ve always got a numbers advantage on defense if your guys make the right reads…
Which is always true of any defense against any offense if no one messes up or gets beat, I’d just like more options to beat them with than “Sterling, go deep”…
I just disagree with your opinion that playing press coverage against us would “completely shut down our entire offense”. I think my points illustrated why that is false.
5. 7 in the box is not “loading the box”. Also, you shouldn’t look at it as 7 vs 5 in the box in that scenario. Depending on their front 7 alignment, you could still have numbers advantage at the point of attack even if they had 7 in the box vs your 5.
I think you’re missing the point of the type of offense that Riley runs. The whole point of it is to make the defense defend more space. More space equals small margin for error for the defense and limits the looks they can give you.
Fast WR’s put a ton of pressure on the defense. There’s a reason this Offense has been extremely successful over the years.
How many national championships has that offense won over the years?
How many national championships has any one offense won?
Depending on the decade/era, one offense won most of them?
In the past decade, has a team running a spread offense beaten a team in the NCG that wasn’t also running a spread offense?
So you’re saying that spread offenses only win NC’s if they’re playing another spread offense? But spread offenses can’t win NC’s?
I think *you’re* being the troll now. You know what I’m saying.
Auburn is the only true pass-first spread offense that has won an NC in the past decade, and they did so by beating THE spread offense in Oregon. And it took a duel-threat QB with an elite NFL arm to do it.
Urban Meyers team’s have all been spread offenses too, but they’re all predicated on a traditional power run game. I’d rather be that style of spread vs. Leach air raid… Maybe we will be, but that isn’t the message coming out of Norman right now.
That said, I’ve voiced my opinion to the point that I care to. I respect your opinions, share most of them, disagree with the ceiling of a true pass-first spread, and maintain skeptical of OUs offensive direction.
The only time you’ll see press man and 5-7 in the box is in a little league game. Right now people are speculating, but no one really knows what the offense will look like next year.
Tennessee, Baylor, KSU and OSU on the road will be a bigger factor than anything if we go 8-5.
You mean like how they all were able to shut down Baylor’s offense last season? Oh wait…
If by “they” you mean Texas, West Virginia, TCU for the first 3 quarters and Michigan State for the last quarter? Then yes. Just like that…
Heupel to Utah State now official, update added
How many doll hairs is he getting? Have you seen?
Nope
Good for him. Hope he does well.
I’m predicting full nuclear melt down if their offense is more efficient/productive than ours next season.
Similarly, I’m predicting that the sun will rise in the East tomorrow.
I don’t get it.
Lots of titles there. Is he also the Director of Equipment Management
And director of proper ball inflation. DOPBI as they like to call it.
Good Luck JH
Good league for Josh to try to improve.
Wonder what they’re paying him?
Congrats Josh!! Hope you have success
We need a BOOM
BOOM! Your welcome in advance
You’re*
Sorry spell check
😉
never be sorry for someone correcting your and you’re. lol.
oh no never. i think that’s more obnoxious than actually spelling or using grammar and puctuation incorrectly. unless its brutally unreadable it just makes the corrector seem petty and overly know it allish. and then they’ll come back with the retort of “well you should want to use correct spelling and grammar” to which i would reply that i’m practically a genius and don’t really give a damn about spelling and grammar cause i’ve been outta school for 16 yrs 🙂
Haha. I agree with you.
BOOM, soon.
Does anyone know if Derrick Woods is gone forever? I haven’t heard.
If the rumors are true that he was stealing then yes I’d assume he’s not welcome here anymore….admins I’ll edit it those are false rumors
Believe he’s still alive. Hope this helps
I think he will be lucky to play another meaningful down in college if the report of stealing is true. I don’t think anyone wants that. would it be different if he wasn’t stealing from teammates? Probably even worse.
Oh man. I missed that report. If true, he shouldn’t be back and I doubt the players would want him.
Yep, 100% gone.
If the Patriots win the Super bowl…….
Congrats JH! Now we can get back to remembering him this way…
I really miss the evaluations guys.
@ACE @Super K @JY
I don’t think they’re doing those anymore.
Me too. I’m hoping they will do some evals following NSD.
Those were awesome but I think they said they didn’t feel right giving a kid a grade or something along those lines
Its a nice logo they have though…
Maybe reversed…
Oh my…..
Saw on C&C that we’ve made it into the top-3 for Pat Allen. I thought we weren’t really in the picture for this guy. With Tennessee’s 70+ commits in this class you got to believe that it’s us or Georgia.
What’s the latest with the Tennessee drama that was rumored last night? If that’s true, I would have to believe the same (UGA and OU).
I heard someone on the staff went full Mangino on the players. Haven’t really read too much into it.
Know which coach it was?
a poster below mentioned it was Butch I think..
Not really. I didn’t really go read a lot of it. I think I skimmed over it and saw the OC and HC names. I do know that their boards were blowing up last night so I assume that something must of happened serious enough for people to talk about that late at night.
Where? I don’t see that anywhere.
Sorry, it was on their Twitter. Attached screenshot.
haha, no worries. i blocked them a long time ago, so i would have been none the wiser 😉
Never mind, I see now. I should have known, they’ve just taken a pay board’s info and represented it as their own.
Shots fired.
Not really. Just stating the facts. That Top 3 comes directly from a $ 247 article. Then they tweet it w/o making reference to and/or linking to said article, therefore misrepresenting as if the info is their own.
Isn’t Allen still committed to UGA?
He de-committed.
Thats good news. Maybe Van can bring him too
CC Machine @CCMachine 33m33 minutes ago
#Sooners in top 3 for 2015 OG Pat Allen. Down to Tenn, UGA, and Sooners.
Boy that would be nice
Finally!….Speed and more Speed!
Does anyone know how fast Jefferson is? On film he doesn’t look like a burner, but I always have a hard time judging.
4.5 I think I read somewhere
http://247sports.com/Player/Van-Jefferson-33068 says 4.56
Referring to the 40 speeds for the OU DL, I’m not sure how I feel about being passed up by 300-pound men. Makes my chances of surviving the zombie apocalypse a little less likely.
Depends which Zombies we’re dealing with? If they are the super fast kind from like World War Z then we are screwed. If they are the slow, walkers from Walking Dead its more about distance running… either way I’m done cuz I can’t run out of sight in a day.
^This ^
Solid analysis, Josh.
Can you tell its Friday lol
TFB spinoff: TZB (The Zombie Brainiacs). Featuring Josh as lead analyst.
Teddy posed a great question for next year: Take the Over or Under on Riley’s Offense averaging 38 points a game next year? (JH averaged 38 last year).
Not flaming, serious question here. Does this take into account defensive TD’s and short fields, etc?
Not like we scored a ton on D/ST, but at least a few times.
Another good question, not sure if they calculate that in or not. For the sake of argument, let’s say all points count to the avg.
I think our schedule may end up marginally more difficult, and I’m unsure of OL/QBs, so I’m going to say it’s a push. 38/game is nothing to sniff at.
I think we will about the same average 36.4 per game…but we have better overall efficiency and we are able to score against better teams.
good point
Over 42
over
50+
Put me down for the over
What do we want to put as the run/pass ratio over under. 55% pass?
Are you asking what we want or what we think it will be?
I want it to be whatever wins all the damn games.
Check your stats…I believe our offense averaged between 33-34 points this year. Total points should have put us at over 36 per game.
That is correct. Our defense scored 4 times and Ross had two KR for touchdowns.
And dont forget the punt returns… oh, wait, we dont do punt returns. lol
This seems like ages ago but I’m hopeful this returns to Norman… pun intended!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aec7o1u8tNY
Loved that guy.
TOUCHDOWN OKLAHOMA. Ought to be on our car tags! Should be the state motto.
Nothing like hearing Bob Barry on the play by play!
I went by what Teddy was stating, not my stats. I guess it’s all rhetoric anyway- just a question as to whether or not Riley is a valid upgrade or not.
Over —as long as our line stays healthy
Over. I think the offense will be more consistant next season and much more explosive.
Over
Worried way more about the defense.
40+
I’m gonna say under, at 37.9
I mean with all the overs, someone has to win, right!? I hope I’m wrong.
Worried about OL play next year, but 40 ppg isn’t out of the question
We may be better off looking at over/under for pick sixes. We scored enough to win all but two games but we helped the other team score a few times to many. On offense no less.
setting line at 3
I’ll take under
Lol, good point. All the pick 6’s should come off the per game total. And then subtract out D/ST TD’s. The net offensive ppg doesn’t look as good then.
Over
Over for sure. Even without being any better, which we definitely should be, Riley runs a faster paced offense and passes the ball more, which will result in more points for the same level of offensive efficiency. And I also expect the offense to be more efficient.
I know it has been going on a couple of days now, but has anyone else beening reading the A&M boards? The melt down is incredible entertainment.
Cant do it… Just. can. not. do. it…
How did we miss Terry Beckner East St. louis. Still uncommitted. Mizzo just now offering scholly. somebody need to let JM know. DE 6’4 300lbs 5*
Don’t know, have not heard of him
Holy balls. 247 has his tackles at 117 this season. That’s a ton for a DT.
I don’t know where you got your information, but he has been offered by Mizzou since his jr, year. It is down to them, tOSU and another sec team …Bama I think? He is their biggest target.
seconded
Tom Brady be like…..
wow. could you imagine what that would look like if it was raining?…
Thx… I needed that. Lmao
haha. all you brother. for some reason that reminded me of it
Haha….
Dude, nearly choked on my apple I was eating… LMAO, then choking, then LMAO some more…
Sorry brother….. Hopefully TFB doesn’t ban me. Too funny not to share.
Worth the experience, bro
Yessir… I believe so too. Lol
Pat Allen rivals OU n UGA decision time. WoW
It’s great we’re in his top 3. Bedenbaugh is the man.
…but he’s going to Georgia.
I hope not, ili would love to see him in crimson n cream
Link to this?
I think Mr. Buckner is the real deal. Oh10 has depth he’ll be waiting to play. Auburn s trying but owe are closer. I think Mizzo waited to long to offer, maybe all it takes is a phone call who knows. Yet the sooner nation is still excited
Better UCLA than UT, I suppose.
Meh, I was actually looking forward to playing Texsa with him on the field. He wouldn’t need to be covered 75% of the time, he breaks up his own receptions.
Punch in the gut to Texas
Buster thanks did not see that. You know he’s being pressured to make a decision and from what I have I have heard it can get pretty nasty some times. Look at AtM now poor Sullen has made that a mess. So let’s watch this unfold and see what happens. Oklahoma kids better quit slow playing OU it’s amazing 2 recruits from the same school get offered and do not commit, like Dalton did jolly on the spot with excitement. Little did these 2 Barnett and Patterson know that when OU offered that was the time to show your true commitment. Now they are standing outside looking in, their parent’s can’t be happy, and all their friends are talking about them. Not in a good way, they humiliated themselves.
Wow @ newsome. That’s a big surprise. Thought for sure he was a Texas lock
Apparently he doesn’t want Norvell coaching him. Not trying to be mean but there is something going on. Also, UCLA will have a new QB so best of luck to him
Saw that Bob is still planning to “in home visit” Newsome on Tuesday, the 27th.
I hope not. We need to move on. Hughes looks like a better athlete imo
The other is one of the fastest guys in the state of Texas and actually plays receiver…
Hughes is just as fast and can run through tackles
You have no idea how fast Hughes is…and you had never heard of the guy less than a month ago. What we do know is that he played QB in HS, he has a decent offer list and he’s got good quicks.
What we do know about Newsome? He has elite 100 meter speed, he plays WR and is a return specialist. Newsome has been high on OU’s board for a long time, and Newsome’s offer list that is long and impressive.
I’ll take Newsome at WR over Hughes. I will also take Newsome over Hughes when it comes to straight athleticism.
The only site I found that shows their 40 times has them both at a 4.35 so obviously same speed.Just to throw this out there I’ve heard Newsome has struggled with his hands some. Also, last time Riley brought in a qb turning them into a wr he had pretty good results which was Hardy.
“Struggled with his hands” is one way of putting it. From what I saw of him as a receiver in live action, including the biggest game of the year in the state championship, it appeared to me that he had bricks for hands and they were dipped in lard.
How fast is Hughes?
If someone says “Hughes is just as fast” and you respond with “You don’t know that”, then I would expect you to know how fast Hughes can run.
So, how fast can he run? If you have data about how fast Hughes is then we’d all benefit because he might commit to OU.
Looks like I better grab some popcorn. 🙂
The dude has been disputing every comment I’ve made today. If I said 4 is a multiple of 2 then I’m sure he would teach us all a little arithmetic
Oh don’t worry he’s just throwing out uninformed generalizations. He knows everything
And the one I mentioned makes more plays. Just saying
1. I disagree. Watch some film.
2. Different positions…so hard to compare. Hughes may “make more plays” but he touches the ball every down.
Shocking. You disagree
What happens when you throw out uninformed generalizations…
I agree Newsome has elite speed and is a good WR. However, he doesn’t want anything we are selling so we should just wish him well. Go after Hughes who has a lot of upside.
I don’t disagree that OU may have a better shot at Hughes. But Hughest “a better athlete” than Newsome…I don’t agree at all
What I will say is playing QB puts ten times the pressure on a kid than a WR. That said, I would love to have an athletic kid who’s used to playing under pressure and is considered a leader.
Also, I saw the film too and he’s a special talent. We as fans don’t get to see all the athletes across the country so we missed on Hughes until Riley. I trust Riley knows a thing or two about WRs.
I’m not sure what you’re talking about…I said “better athlete imo” which sets it up that it’s opinion not fact. And if you still have a hard on about michah quick anyone who actually watched the games this season knows he dropped too many passes yet the fact I can’t find that stat doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
…and has lard covered bricks for hands.
I agree Bob needs to be in the home of some LBs pronto or needs to be looking for a new LB coach pronto
I am not a Newsome fan, the times I saw him play he dropped more passes than he caught.
I merrily wish him good luck.
Happy Trails! HAHA.
Jordan, K, or somebody in the know. Another site has all kinds of crazy rumor out there about Patterson. Is there more that’s happening here behind the scenes??
Like?
Basically about him committing to coaches but the coaches pumping the breaks.
He wanted to commit, OU wanted him to hold off. Stephens committed, OU re-evaluated where they were #’s wise and felt comfortable w/ the guys they had. It’s unfortunate for Patterson, obviously, as OU was clearly where he wanted to go.
If there’s any more to it than that, I’m not exactly sure how relevant it is to what happened. As I understand things, it might not necessarily be a 100% done deal that OU has moved on, but Patterson may make that decision for them what w/ things getting very late in the recruiting process.
I will say that whatever did or did not happen, both w/ Patterson and Jalin Barnett for that matter, the OU staff needs to make sure they’re in good standing w/ the coaches at Lawton. No sense in burning a bridge w/ that quality in-state program.
No doubt about that.
barnett made his own bed and I don’t quite understand the deal with patterson……..on os read something about the ncaa and getting act scores flagged….perhaps it will come to light
Thanks for the info Jordan. I guess with him being an OK kid makes for more news than if he was “just another recruit”.
Also, FWIW, I understand that there may be problems with his latest ACT score. Apparently, his score suddenly jumped significantly which will most likely “red flag” it for the NCAA. if so, they could require him to re-take it under more closely monitored circumstances. I think OU didn’t want to deal with a possible non-qualifier in the end.
ESPN just released top 100 college players. Perine # 36, Striker # 86, Shepard # 91. Full of crap as usual.
What shocks me is that we placed anyone in the top 88. I thought those were reserved for ‘Bama’s roster.
Alabama offered Perine so he gets the privilege of being in the first 50 haha
It’s my Friday. It’s my weekend.
Open Post – On.
Pants – Off.
Too much info….
beat me to it
That’s what she said.
My wife says just the opposite. Too little info.
Ba-da-ching!
Keep that stuff to yourself!!!
Check. Window blinds are indeed closed.
You DO get excited about posting on here, don’t you? Got your own boom and everything..;)
You caught me! 🙂
With your pants down.
Too dang chilly for streakin:-)
Utah State’s new offense.
…..kindof embarrassing for norvell with newsome………can’t get him to ou or ut on his first swing there…….
I’m a Norvell fan for the most part but that’s funny. Well done sir.
I thought the same thing. Newsome be like….damn, I gotta go far away to get away from this guy. Lol
It’s Friday, beer is flowing nicely, my crimson 4×4 is washed and shining bright and we’ve got nothing big to cheer about this evening. I’ll be here waiting.
Ill be cheering for Womens gymnastics on one of the Fox Sports channels, dont remember which one…
I can do that.
Livin the dream…huh Ray?
It’s a pampered life, not for everyone, but I roll with it. 🙂
BOOOOM!
(…made ya look! ha!)
Shame Caleb can’t graduate waaaaay early for 2015…
Getting Caleb Kelly would be huge. We need that California talent!
Umm wasn’t Josh Smith supposed to visit this weekend? Apparently Hale is saying now it’s next weekend.
No bueno.
Isnt he supposed to be visiting Oregon next weekend?
Im guessing one of us is eliminated
That’s my thinking also. Not a good sign
Bad news for Phil Knight.
To me it sounds more like bad news for OU
Maybe I read Brick’s OP wrong. He was going to visit OU this weekend and visit Oregon next weekend. Now he may be visiting OU next weekend… which would mean he is NOT visiting Oregon next weekend…
It reads like that but I dont think this is the first time that hes cancelled a trip to OU ( I could be wrong ) so it kind of makes me wonder if its just not going to happen. We’ve seen that before with recruits.
That being said I hope I’m wrong. I think Josh is our #1 most important recruit on the board.
I really like what I’ve seen and heard of him, but I would only be crestfallen if we don’t get McGuinness.
I see now. I was reading that he had rescheduled on TOP of the Oregon visit. Well, I would love to have Smith here. Bright kid. Highly rated LB. Having NO visitors in this weekend looks poor. But at this point, they would be grasping at straws it seems.
Kished?
Did he just swap travel plans? If he still comes next weekend, that may not be the worst that could happen. If he cancelled us completely….yeah it’s over.
How many here predicted this??
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/23/teammate-manziel-was-a-100-percent-joke-as-a-rookie/
LMFAO
Dude has already lived the best part of his life. Won’t be around long.
I predicted last year he would be broke and in prison within ten years. Since he moved his finger from the button labeled “fatal case of the dumb-a**” to the “self-destruct” button I may have underestimated his buffoonery.
He’s weeks away from being naked on a wrecking ball. 🙂
He is auditioning for a renewal of Second City TV and the celebrity blowup.
i used to love some canuck sctv. tons of funny guys from that show. john candy, to me, tops that list
Those were the days, when we actually had funny comedy from these guys and SNL was still funny.
At least SNL is much improved, though.
Haven’t watched it since Belushi and his crew were on it.
Definitely had some down years. I recently started watching again, and was pleasantly surprised.
right? now its just a bunch of turds who try to outcurse each other. all of the apatow movies are horrendous to me because of the need to drop 7000 f bombs and endless gd bombs etc etc
Belushi, John Candy, those guys could just make you laugh with an expression, they didn’t have to be vulgar to be funny.
Is it normal to be this close to signing day and not have any official visitors? Seems odd to me
Wish that Caleb Kelly would pull the trigger! It would start making people feel better at LB right now. Got Shannon added back to the mix this year and Deberry to go along with Alexander, Evans, Evans.
They better get something at LB or Kish should be out. If you can’t recruit a position of need then he needs to go. Hell the only LB in this class is thanks to Monty.
If the visit isn’t in fact rescheduled, this would be a massive, massive failure on OU’s part, IMO.
OU’s or an unnamed coach/recruiter?
Rivals still shows a 1-23-15 official visit for OU, but no scheduled visit for UO.
Kim Tish?
Who are they? They sound awful pretty.
EDIT: LOL
Like Russian power lifters.
Is it time?
I smell smoke.
Once again Jordan, you over-react. I’m not sure it could be considered a massive, massive failure to fail to get a kid who has been committed for a very long time to a great school like Vandy to flip his commitment. It’s always a long shot to get a player to de-commit and flip. Especially a kid who has a brother playing there and it is a school in his back yard. Massive, massive failure is pure hyperbole!
I think you are correct BoomerDave. I also think that the over reacting has lead to a decline in the tone of the website.
Arguably the No. 1 target remaining on your board at a massive position of need and you’re a program like OU who now apparently can’t flip a kid committed to Vanderbilt?
Kids flip/decommit all the time, so your comment about it being a “long shot” is no less ridiculous than you considered mine to be.
You’re right, everything is totally fine. What was I thinking.
Please can anyone tell me why is kish still are linebacker coach he hasn’t recruited anybody he even mest up the Dwayne Thomas recruitment when is this loser going to be fired.
That’s mest up that you called him a loser.
Look here that’s his job to recruit he hasn’t recruited since he’s been here he can’t coach,and he can’t recruit what does that make him a Savior ha the guy is a loser.
Not a bad person, just not best for us maybe.
Yes you are right sooner ray but the question is why is he still are linebacker coach?
smh
and he would still run laps around the likes of you. but seriously, no offense
It’s fan’s like you that make me wonder if you are playing with a full deck?
Oh man, just stop before this gets worse for you.
was that a question? well then yes i am playing with a full deck. it smells like you crapped out tho
*snort*
Sorry, I can only up vote this once.
I just thought it was mest up. That’s awl.
And you are still correct.
How do you know that he can’t coach? Coach Stoops would strongly disagree with your expert (I’m sure) opinion. I heard him say that he is one of the premiere LB coaches in the country. That is why I don’t feel he will be replaced.
Well it’s not like big game bob is Urban Meyer when it comes to coaching.
Oh, Clint! LOL
Ohh….
I know stuff!
LMAO. How did he mess up the Thomas recruitment?? Very interested to hear your reply to this one. You are talking about that 2* stud of an undersized LB that A&M stole away from La-Layfeyette?
LOL!
Keeps coming across that OU just isn’t a school he wants to see. It gets worked in then falls out. What’s he doing instead?
Who did what to whom, now?
The smith kid. Just get a sense he ain’t that interested in OU.
Seems that way.
His loss.
Sounds like we need to let Arthur “hulk” McGinnis know just how important he is.
McG is the LB that I want the most.
So is everyone agreed that most likely only one LB will be taken in this class? What percent chance do we have at McGinnis or Smith?
Depends on whether Smith reschedules or not..
We better pray we get any linebacker i just don’t understand why they waited so long to offer Dwayne Thomas.
So you just want another LB regardless of quality? Why, pray tell?
Because we need linebackers .
LOL. We have 10 at this time not counting Thomas or Byrd who may likely make the move, We will play 4 or 5 of them. Next year it will be a priority. This year, not so much. That is why we were only planning to take 2, 3 tops in this class.
We’re doing well in recruiting, especially of late and now the sky is falling bc Smith is rescheduling? Smh.
We have one linebacker committed in are most important position of need and we are doing great?
Get real! Word from the beginning was that we would most likely only take 2 LB’s in this class, or 3 max if 3 studs wanted to come. It’s a position of great need in the eyes of uninformed fans, not the coaches.
We have 10 linebackers on scholarship lest than any major program in the country and we where only going to sign two or three linebackers get real man.
With all due respect james, even if we had 50 LB’s, we or any other team can only start 2,3 or 4 of them. It’s not a big problem right now.
What am i missing we played horrible defense this year clemson put 40 point’d on us it could have been 60 and that’s not a problem ?
Yes giving up a lot of points is a problem but it wasn’t all on the LB’s last year, it won’t be this year either.
My goodness how can you all say this is not a big deal? Depth is very important. We need to not have to rely on Freshmen every other year. Depth is also important in getting the best out of the 1st team. Depth, depth, depth. I wish we had so much depth that most LBs don’t see the playing field until they are juniors.
I agree that depth at every position is ideal, It’s just obvious at this point that we have what we have at LB and there’s no point going full blown panic right now. I think it will work out somehow.
Less than any major program in the country?? LMAO!!
What other major program has fewer linebackers name one.
We have 10 in a 3/4 system. Georgia – 17, Alabama 13, Stanford – 17. Texas has five in this class and Texas A&M have 5 in this class. Yes we need more than 1 or 2 we needed at least three this class.
comparisons to a whole conference that over signs is pointless. they get rid of excess baggage every year. they should get with the program and have to wear a mistake in recruiting for 4 or 5 yrs just like everybody else. otherwise their numbers are gonna be skewed every single yr making the comparisons apples to toilet paper
OUR most important position of need is linebacker? Over and over and over the linebackers would make the tackle and then a safety would come walking up from, oh? O’Connell’s?
I kept telling them to put their beer down and get back on the field.
Latest info out there is Josh Smith will be visiting Oregon next weekend, no longer considering OU.
Soonerscoop says Smith is no longer considering OU. Major bummer.
Makes one wonder if they would have gotten rid of Kish and replaced him with a “Name” LB recruiter when they axed Heupe and Novell if things might have been different.
Smith and his dad said they liked Kish, maybe they came here and saw all the negative comments about Kish and decided they wanted nothing to do with it.
Since we can only speculate.
No doubt Kish is a very likeable guy but that doesnt mean he can sell the product.
Guess we’ll never know.
All we can do is speculate and doing so about what goes on in a 17/18 year old mind is not something I care to get worked up over.
I also find the constant ragging on Kish tiresome and unproductive.
Its the off season and thus mandatory to rag on something. Thats the nature of the fan. Kish has zero recruits…hes won the most likely to be ragged on award obviously.
It’s not my nature. My nature is to support my Sooners irrespective of what is happening, that includes all coaches and players, and all of them are subject to criticism, but the incessant whiny ragging on Kish is uncalled for.
That’s the downside of social media. 1-2 people think they have it all figured out like who to put the blame on and soon it becomes fact to hundreds.
I support the Sooners as much as anyone on here Im sure and believe me Im not one to look to criticize when its not warranted, but its precisely the fact that I DO support the Sooners that when I see a problem that can be fixed I’ll always state my case on it.
And I encourage you to do so.
All the bile, snark and sneer all day-every day directed at Kish just sounds like mindless group think.
I get the “mindless group think” comment and understand where you’re coming from but for the most part I don’t see most of the posters here as having a “sheep mentality”. I think most of the Kish complainers are just looking at the facts and the big fact is a whole year to recruit and not one commitment. Thats just unacceptable to many individuals on here.
You stated that clearly and succinctly, and I agree.
ok then we can agree to agree on this one lol
Absolutely, but being a whiny beeotch is not something I ever want to be or find acceptable
ditto
Not my nature at all. I come to this site multiple times everready day to fix a need. A need for information. Having to shovel through endless Monday morning quarterbacking is tiresome and irrelevant. If you participate in a game thread these same hacks will whine and moan and postulate their genius one minute and cheer the success of the very scheme they were grinding up the next. As I’ve said before, if we pass we should have ran and if we ran we should have passed. I know stuff!
I find Bob Stoops not addressing the problem tiresome and unproductive…just my opinion though
I have a feeling thats about to change shortly
I had a feeling like that once, but it was only gas. 🙂
Beware of the shart!
lol and you took a TUMS and that shorty changed…no?
LOL.
A good strong cup of Joe took care of it.
But do we really know he isn’t? To say he is or isn’t is pure speculation.
But why do it on offense and not on defense? It’s obvious the defense was a bigger problem. Get a new guys/guys in and let them get after it
I can’t give a definitive answer, only speculation.
I believe Bob wanted to help Jay and Josh find a landing place.
Also, with regards to the defense, BJW has/was encouraged to retire, then his brother was made a co-DC(something of a demotion). I think there will be further changes, but I can understand why Bob might not want to make wholesale changes on both sides of the ball before NSD.
Yeah I think there will be changes as well, and obviously we aren’t privy to all of the facts but it’s just my humble opinion that we may have had better chances with a new coach/coaches, especially if they are younger and/or NFL experienced type.
Isn’t that what most of these messages are? Speculation? I understand the “incessant whiny ragging on Kish” gets old. But I don’t think people should shut up about it. Being a bit more respectful? Sure. But we are all here to opine and speculate.
I have no problem with people stating their opinions, I will listen patiently whether I agree or not.
It’s all the “creative” snarks expressing the same thing ad infinitum that is so tiresome.
Haha! Yeah, that “creative” stuff…just trying to keep dirty jeans fresh!
I see what you did there
Ha! I don’t know about that…but if he makes his decisions based on message board comments, well…
Well, we have proof that some kids and their families have visited here.
If families are visiting here, I should have a disclaimer at the top of the page. 🙂
Gonna wave that freak flag high, are we?
Oh, they do visit, I know. I’m just saying that what is said here isn’t any different than any other place. The kids around him aren’t all OU fans. The people around him can’t be ignorant to the fact that Kish probably isn’t the best coach on staff. I think I’ll keep up with voicing my opinions on Kish until I feel that they are remedied.
Suit yourself.
I want him replaced, too, but it’s not my job and if what is said on a forum has no effect on players and their families, then it surely has no effect on the decision makers, either.
I get it. I know the Kish ripping is getting redundant (like a year ago), but…To be honest, NOTHING we say on here makes a difference to anyone that matters (read recruits, coaches, donors). I know it’s old. Stifling public opinion is not the way to go, however.
I also wanted to add that I honestly respect your opinion, EasTex. I’m not trying to be an ass, no matter how it may be coming across..;-)
I’m going to start calling you castorToats BloodredMcGoats! 🙂
^This^ guy, I swear.
…
Didn’t take it that way and didn’t want anyone to think I was, either.
All is coolness. 😀
I’m not interested in stifling anyone as long as they have a cogent and valid opinion, it’s the repetitive bashing that I find so toxic. It creates an unhealthy environment for open discourse.
Agreed.
It sucks but our LB position is pretty set for the next two years, without major injuries of course. Next year will be much more critical for bringing in stud backers.
Just saw this.
Yeah but when you consider that Bama and Georgia are in the SEC and are allowed to have 150 kids on scholarship its not that surprising.
BINGO!
He got Kished
I will make this prediction now tim kish will be fired after National Signing Day he didn’t recruit or sign a single linebacker.
My guess is Kishy is gone after NSD and these recruits know we don”t have a LB coach in place!! That one is square on B.Stoops!!
https://twitter.com/CCMachine/status/558803698617294848/photo/1
That will be some good ammo for us recruiting next year.
Good point.
Kish should reap a good haul next year….
That’ll be good for whichever school he is coaching for.
As we always say in our LB recruiting./. …Next!
The longer B.Stoops prolongs the hiring of a LB,DB,& WR coach the more recruits are mystified about who the coaches will be.Bob told us all that he had the resources to hire anyone then just freakin do it !!! Go Sooners!!!
I’m impatient as well. But I think Bob knows that these hires are probably the most important of his career…this is why we wait.
Patience!
I think he has his new coaches lined up, but to announce before NSD could jeopardize their current status and the commits to their current schools.
if we hired a backer coach we would be better served to announce it asap…not like we would lose any current recruits and might finish strong w a big name hire…same for db…they already know that there will be a new coach since BJW has retired…I could see the delay if Mike were leaving though
He’s talking about the new coach and commits where he is now, not OU.
I don’t see why we need to worry about that unless the coaches made some kind of agreement that they wouldn’t announce until after NSD..then yea I see the point
It’s called professional courtesy.
lol is that what they call it…wasn’t very professional for East Carolina was it
You’re missing the point, I was talking about a potential future hire not wanting it to be made public before NSD.
I guess Riley didn’t care…so it just depends on the hire and who he formally worked for
The short answer is yes.
When Bob called Ruff to see if he could interview Riley, Ruff started a sales pitch about Riley. Bob had to cut Ruff off and tell him he was already a buyer.
Probably came down to the talk with Riley and their head coach. Riley probably wanted to get on with it, and the head man over there didn’t stand in his way. Varies from circumstance to circumstance.
I’m sorry…I am not familiar with that term…
There could even be clauses/time lines in their current contracts that would cost a bunch of money if they violated it.
You know I’m not a patient man Tex. Ready for some fires and some hires.
You need to give me a schedule for your patient/impatient days. LOL!
Ha! – More like hour to hour.
What makes people think we are getting a new LB coach? I’d say only about a 25% chance of that, if that high.
It really depends if they can land at least 2 more LBs in this class. I’m not holding my breath though. If they don’t get at least 2 more, with Kish as the recruiter, then he needs to go hands down.
Problem is, you don’t make that decision. Bob does, and I seriously doubt if it happens. If he’s a great LB coach as Bob and many other say he is, then keep him. Let Monty recruit the position. Most staffs have some coaches who are not great recruiters. Switzer’s staff had a handful of great recruiters and others like Gibbs and Gaylon Hall who could coach and not recruit. Others take up the slack.
If I was a coach recruiting and I could not make a connection or build a rapport with an athlete I wanted, I would certainly turn that recruit over to another coach. The staff should play as a team too.
Louis Brown? Does he fit OU? Pro’s n Con’s
I beleive he is a strong okie state lean.
The OU woman’s gymnastics team is looking strong, well recruited and executing at a high level. :-0 🙂 :-/
what’s the avg star ranking and who offered..that’s all that matters
Can’t make out the stars through all the glitter on the uniforms but did notice they had a freshman in only her third meet setting records tonight with some perfect 10’s. I think that’s pretty good given my limited experience with the sport.
.LB Recruiting:(
Where?
Disappointing for an elite program…problem definitely exist
so i get watergate. its a hotel in dc and whatnot. the freaking name of the thing is watergate hotel. why the double hockey sticks does the media think its so smart and cute that now every scandal ever since that day has to have “gate” thrown on the end of it? does anybody else find this one of the dumbest things they’ve ever heard? or at least up there? am i all alone here?
“gate” seems to work well with topic at hand (the scandal) since it’s define as an opening or entrance..etc…so the word really come to define the opening of a controversy or scandal I suppose…any of this make sense lol it is friday night
sure if you’re talking about the start of it or whatever. but to make the whole thing something-“gate” is played out. they even look back on it and call it “spygate” or “we peeked in on the cheerleaders gate” i mean watergate was ’72. i mean, these people are supposed to be the best with words and stuff. they went to college for it and the best they can do is make something a word and use it incessantly for the last 42 1/2 yrs? how bout “tiredgate” or “unclegate”?
But never Benghazi-gate.
Its very apparent we need some football or news or some dang thing!!
well what’s your take on it there mister smarty pants? 🙂
Hmmm that I don’t know a dang thing:-)
Yes we do…we really, really do.
thanks for playing along everybody. this looks like the end of it so thanks for the laughs
That’s it, I’m going baaack on the grid!
This is exactly why we need a gun thread!
I ever tell you about the guns I have that belonged to my Papaw?
Share!
No you haven’t, I started this thread so feel free. 🙂
I have his old Remington Model 11, which is the same shotgun as the Browning Auto-5. It was his everything gun, used it for upland birds, water fowl and deer hunting. It is a 1923 model that hasn’t been fired since the early 60’s and it never will be again. I look at it, hold it, I can remember that big rascal with the squishiest heart in the world.
Then there is his S&W Model 10 Police revolver.
It was produced in the 1910’s and hasn’t been fired since the 50’s and never will again. During the Depression they turned the front of their farm house into a country store just to make some cash, as cash was hard to come by since they weren’t printing any. He kept his .38 under the counter.
They kept the store open late, til about 9p.m., it was on U.S. Hwy 80 about 20 miles East of Shreveport and on the evening of 22 May 34 he saw a car pull off the highway to the store, but they didn’t stop in front, but beside a big Magnolia tree. He started to go out to see who it was when a man and a woman with a shotgun came walking up. He recognized instantly who it was, Bonnie and Clyde. They ordered some Bar-B-Que sandwiches, he put the order in to my grandmother while Clyde watched him and she watched the highway.
The sandwiches came out, they paid and left. My grandfather said he never thought for a moment about grabbing his .38.
The next day the news came over the radio that the two bandits had been killed about 15 miles away in Gibsland. My Pappaw swore up and down that they bought their last meal at his country store.
That’s cool Tex. I also have some Grandfather hand downs that are very similar. I have a Remington Model 11 made on the Browning Pat. that looks very much like your pic. My Papa was a lawman out in California and I have his service revolvers, a Colt .38 Detective special and Colt .38 Police Positive special. They looked similar to the pic of the S&W.
The Model 11 is the same as the Auto-5, the first successful semi-auto shotgun built. John Moses Browning is an American Hero and a self-taught genius gun designer.
I loved that old rascal, and cherish his memory by keeping his guns well cared for.
My grandmother on the other side left me her Model 5 S&W Detective Special. I was about 13 and provided her with counsel when she decided to arm herself.
That’s a great story
I heard him tell that story a few hundred times and it never varied, and I never got tired of hearing him tell the story.
Very cool.
man now you guys wanna shoot me on the internet. that’s messed up too 🙂
You automatically equate a gun with somebody getting shot?
/that’s it…..
now you’re back on the grid?
…not yet…
In OK can you get a CC for multiple guns or just one…sometimes I just like the revolver
That’s why I tested with an auto, I can carry according to my mood.
Same here in Texas, if you qualify with a semi-auto, you can carry that or a revolver. You qualify with a revolver, that’s all you are allowed to carry.
I love a good wheel gun.
Same as Okla.
just to be clear, you can carry on your hip without a license right…as long as it isn’t concealed
In Ok, you can carry concealed or not as long as you are licensed. If you are not, you can only transport unloaded.
I gotcha…thats why dad always kept the clip right next to the gun in the case…we license you can be loaded…one in the hole too I assume (although not safe)
If you have the permit you can carry hot, concealed or open. No permit, better be unloaded.
Thank Ray
Clip? CLIP?
/slowly I turn…step by step
Think he means magazine?
I think he means a mag but doesn’t fully understand a clip is not a magazine.
clip, clip, clip.
Heh, heh, heh. They’re all slowly coming over to my side. You’ve been defeated.
LOL.
No, just means I have more work to do.
It’s over; I’ve won. 8>)
Ain’t over as long as I’m breathing.
Guns are as safe as the person using/carrying them is prepared and trained. I have no issues with traveling HOT or being around people I know doing the same. Do I think everyone should? HELL NO!
Ok so I can use my semiauto for the test and still carry a revolver too…I thought the license had to link with the serial#…I haven’t done it yet but was curious…cause I like the 6 shooter but would like both options……my question button is broke..sorry for the confusion
Are you Ok. or Tx.?
im OK
I don’t know about OK, but that’s the way we do it in Texas. No firearm serial #’s on our CHL.
Test with the semiauto and you are covered for anything. They don’t care about serial numbers, it’s none of their business what you own or carry.
WHAT????!!!!???? CA has y’all beat on this. If you get a CCW permit you carry any pistoli listed on your permit. Semi auto, revolver, flintlock (I guess). I have seven handguns listed on it Just got back from dinner and was toting my S and W .38 special. Sweet little five shooter.
Uhhh. I don’t have to show what kind of guns I have on my CHL and I have handguns with 50round mags, can’t have those in Cali.
Marksmanship and fire discipline are points of training; no 50 round mags necessary. 😉
Then there are times when you need firepower to suppress fire and maneuver.
Do you live in Beruit?
The way things are going, it’s better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. 🙂
Comes to a fire fight that’s what the M16 is for…….. And the M-1 for those who wish to run and want to just die tired.
Handguns are for giving you time to get to your long guns.
What if you just want to make someone dance? With only 10 rounds, the entertainment value decreases rapidly.
Dance monkey dance… I say DANCE!
We are not beat. We don’t have to disclose any gun we own or carry and people from Cali call out here asking for us to send high capacity mags they aren’t allowed to purchase.
We can have 10 rounds. Anymore than that pulls your britches down. Sounded like you guys had to have one permit for a revolver and another for a semi.
No, the way they set up the law was if you test with a revolver, you can only carry a revolver. If you test with an auto, you can carry anything.
No, if we qualify with a semi-auto we can carry a semi or a wheel gun. Qualify with a wheel gun, you can only carry a wheel gun.
When you look into something you are entering a gate into that subject
so they entered the gate of watergate hotel? and what about the part of after its over? do you look back thru the opposite side of the gate? i promise i’m not drunk, just bored and watching mr deeds 🙂
I’m done
cause i’m not drunk? that’s messed up 🙂
lol that hasn’t nothing to do with it…if you can’t understand what I’m talking about then I can’t (don’t want to) continue explaining it
oh i get. you enter thru the gate and do the thing with the stuff. but why not “hangingchaddoor” or to steal eastex’s “benghaziwindow” or something entirely different like “wardrobemalfunctionthing”
That’s it, I’m going o000ff the grid.
The current day media has zero originality.
amen to that. but how/why do you get a degree in journalism? it seems like its just a piece of paper to wipe your hind parts on. listening to some of these blowhards is like coming on here sometimes. a lot of hot air with no point which kinda makes this discussion fit right in 🙂
Journalism degrees are proof they have been properly indoctrinated, not educated.
gotcha. so you’re saying that once you’ve mastered the company line, you’ve got your piece of paper
Once you have demonstrated you are not a critical thinker and are so open minded that your grey matter has fallen out, you get the parchment.
There wouldn’t even of been a Watergate if not for Forrest Gump
Some of the finest looking women on earth have passed through those doors or gate or whatever.
Journalism = Alcoholism
Alcoholic = [enter word]aholic
yeah but the “aholic” means addicted to something. they invented this stupid thing to be cute or whatever instead of coming up with something original they just said “well, watergate was bad, so now everything gets a ‘gate’ to go along with it”. seems kinda douchey to me
-Gate is the same thing as -aholic. People started using it as a reference to someone who is addicted to something, but it was just taken from alcoholic and thrown onto every other addiction. Anything using aholic in reference to an addiction, that is not alcohol based, is not used in real life by professionals.
wow. its early for me to have learned something already for the day. thank you sir. so would you say you like both, both are stupid, or who really cares and why did i bring it up? 🙂
Both are stupid. I know people who say they’re “chocoholic’s,” because they like chocolate. That’s annoying.
Haha
I just saw this on the OU FANS UNITE facebook page:
“The Super Bowl will have no 5 star recruits starting. But will feature 20 starters with a 2 star or lower rating. Stars don’t determine you!”
Not sure if it’s true…but if it is, that’s pretty fantastic.
Probably true. Russell Wilson was a 2 star and Richard Sherman was a 3 star.
Tell me something I don’t know lol…pumpers been saying that forever…media started giving stars and some fans thought the media guys were better evaluators than actual coaches lol..talk about hook line and sinker
Pardon me TFB, where the heck is Denzel Washington?
He’s soooo 2014.
I forgot what he looks like, and the four letter word he used to say
I don’t remember him ever saying the word L-O-V-E.
Me neither, something like snap or bang I think
Was it Carl? Why does Carl sound familiar?
Caddyshack, he’s got an 8 iron, 195 yards
a little farther back in his stance I’d guess
Yep, knockdown due to wind
I use to thrive off of my low trajectory shots due to this OK wind in the spring (in hs)
Definitely a must have shot in OK, learned that one early too
Maybe it was Foot?
so good to see you carl. that what you’re thinking of?
Billy Madison reference?
yeah buddy
I just saw this pic! I feel like an idiot now for asking if it was a BM reference! LAWL.
Yer thinkin of mustard and biscuits…….
Or this guy…
amc is blowing me away with shows. breaking bad has to be the best show ever. walking dead is 2nd and i can’t wait to start in on mad men and can’t wait for saul to start
I have to agree. Breaking Bad has ruined a lot of shows for me! Nothing really measures up. Walking Dead is fantastic. I took my son to Comic Con last October…got to see Shane, Herschel, Merle, and Darrell. It was fantastic! Also, Robert Englund introduced himself to me as “Freddy”. It was amazing!
I tried the Walking Dead thing, but the zombie genre was perfected long ago by George Romero, so this new stuff is just *meh*.
You are correct, but I’m a sucker for zombie drama!
Justified, Sons, and Vikings are all coming to an end. Already binge watched Breaking
Bad. What’s a poor boy to do?
Looking forward to justified and SOA. Kinda wanna check out the bridge unless I get wind otherwise
That’s not the four letter word used when discussing KISH..lol that might become the new four letter word lol
Well, folks, time to call it a night. Been following today but not commenting.
As for the LB situation, this is where we are. Keep moving forward.
This is still a more than solid class of recruits.
Night!
Well said.
“But for now it would appear OU will be hosting nobody on one of just two remaining crucial recruiting weekends.”
Son of a biscuit eating BULLDOG!!!
Your feelings are shared by many.
Said the Man In Black.
I will never get to sleep if the post quality continues to rise.
Well, I could post his very last music video, but then I would get sweaty eyeballs.
Hurt? What is this salty discharge?
Your eyes are all sweaty…
OH THWI, this one’s for you Johnny.
I knew you were going to do it haha, I’ve played that on my guitar.
The guys from NIN said that song had special meaning to them, but once Johnny covered it they said the song belonged to him.
I’ll never forget the first time I saw the video on one of those late Saturday night hard rock/metal video shows. I didn’t recognize him, I recognized the voice and watched with my jaw hitting the floor. When he closed the piano keyboard cover I went…dang, he’s saying adios.
Wasn’t too long after that when June passed, then he followed right along a few weeks later.
Such a great voice, he is missed.
True icon and a great life story. Lived as the man in black from beginning to end. His music lives forever because he LIVED it.
God I love that clip! 9 inch nails song I believe. I watch it and weep.
EasTex, thanks for posting. I’m a jazz listener. It’s the music I love. However, I’ve always enjoyed listening to Johnny Cash. He was genuine. He was coming from somewhere most of us have never been.
Same here. If I pick, it’s blues 99% of the time. But Cash crosses all genres.
You are correct. He does cross over to other genres and generations. If you like music that’s good, you can’t help but like Cash.
Boom
I love many different forms of music and truly appreciate the talented. His manly voice was the perfect vehicle for his unique perspective and style.
For you, one of my all time favorite bands, Weather Report.
That’s right: Joe Zawinul and Lyle Mays.
Don’t go to sleep on Wayne Shorter and Jaco. 🙂
Hurt, in a good way.
On the bright side, it is the weekend.
You’re my favorite weatherman Tex!
Accutee
Raised my spirits.
Last year we closed pretty strong with Quick, Parker, Frison & Brown.. & we didn’t host anyone the final 2 weekends…
Hard to get any Booms if you can’t even get them on campus for visit.
OU can host me!
Me too!
Can we get a TFB “X’s n O’s” article on our defensive personnel.. & how it might fit into a 4/3 or 4/2/5 versus the current 3/4 …?
Thinking the same thing. They are either going back to a 4-2 or they plan on moving a couple DE to OLB.
yeah buddy
I’m not feeling the prospects for Smith were all that great anyway. Not defeatist, just realist.
I understand the frustration with not getting all of the LBs we needed in this class. But don’t let that overshadow the fact that we got the best LB in the country, DeBerry. Another thing, this is a sweet recruiting class, overall. We have some top notch recruits coming to OU. I’m happy about that. The coaches have done a great job.
Montgomery, Gundy, Riley, Bob are still at it. And smiling, too. They haven’t given up. That’s all you can ask for.
What will you think of this team, these coaches, when they are successful despite the challenges they will overcome at the LB position.
It’s not over yet.
We’ve got enough quality to get through the season, but next recruiting cycle will need to be gangbusters with LBs. I’ve got faith, and a 3-4 can look a lot like a 5-2 with bigger outside guys.
Yeah, agreed. It’s not as bad as it looks. Wheeler was just unfortunate. Bad luck with the pressure from his parents to go to texsa.
I watched him with interest in the state playoffs since he was an OU offer. I was very disappointed with what I saw. He didn’t hustle, wouldn’t run to the ball regardless where it was on the field, he just stayed in his area and was mostly a spectator. Further, he was not an emotional leader which, IMO, is the very thing a Senior stud MLB should be for a defense.
Kid looks great in a uniform and looks the part, but his heart/motor always seemed set on idle.
I may be alone in this, but it didn’t bother me one bit when he chose Texsa.
I agree. Looked like he had heavy feet. Very passive, didn’t attack the ball.
Based on his ********** rating and all the praise I was totally underwhelmed.
Maybe someone will be able to find his “on” button, but I don’t think he is mentally inclined to be a MLB.
I agree. That is what I liked about Thomas…. Guy was a missile and just whacked people like it was personal. I’m all for playing under control and being a good sport and all but a linebacker has to, MUST have a high level of kick ass in his demeanor. Jordan Evans has that . I have yet to see Dom Alexander exhibit any of that.
Yeah, I’d have liked Smith too. Just pointing out that we won’t roll over and die with what we’ve got. Our situation will look better in the next cycle, so we should be able to pick up some high quality boys that want to get in quick. The one caveat is that LB usually requires a little seasoning with schemes and all. Heving said all that, we’ll be fine.
You are correct and to add to what you have said, signing day is still 12 days away. Things change.
All the time. EasTex, on a side note, I want you to know I really appreciate your comments. Your level-headed , well thought out comments, provide a much needed balance that help most of us find our center. Thanks!
I appreciate the kind words.
I always enjoy seeing your nic on the screen, too.
Josh Smith welcome to Sooner Nation. It’s obvious Mr. Smith can’t be 2 places at once. He rescheduled smart move now he doesn’t have to fly to Oregon it’s freezing up there now. I look at this is a good thing. We always get a surprise on NSD. Recruit’s are seeing playing time here. Plus you have to believe Mr. Deberry is making pH call’s aomebody wants to play with him.
you’re saying he cancelled his Oregon visit… or you’re hoping he cancelled it..?
You do realize your comment was number 777 for this post, correct? That’s a good sign.
it’s certainly better than 666… i’ll take it..!
Last night Rivals showed he had an official for OU on 1-23-15 but not one for UO.
Today they show he has no official for either school. Could mean almost anything, including he might be sticking with his commitment to Vandy.
I agree, i felt when he cancelled last week to go back to Vandy that that’d be the end of it..
Let’s wait and see has anybody checked Oregon’s board. What does their lb situation look like. Let’s do our home work before we get all debbied okay.
Thank You Jesus for bending your ear to hear our cry in Jesus name Amen
Amen. Amen. Thank you brother.
Started to think you left the planet…
I’ve been hanging out in the stratosphere of the board here.
Hear ya.
All of this whining and crying by (supposedly) grown men on here about Kish is getting really old. I’m afraid that many of you will have a complete mental breakdown when you learn in the end that Stoops retains Kish. By all accounts, Bob thinks that Kish is a great LB coach as do many others close to the program. Is he a great recruiter? Heck no he’s not! But that is not reason alone to fire him if he is, in fact, a good coach. Most staffs have guys who can coach only and others who can recruit. Most close to the program will tell you that Monty is a much better recruiter than he is a coach. So let Monty recruit the LB’s as well as the DL’s next year. That’s what he is great at. Kish can do his part as well as their prospective position coach, but let Monty take the lead and let him close the deal. Switzer’s great recruiting was done by a handful of coaches, mainly Scott Hill, Charlie North, Bobby Procter and the King himself. Gibbs and Hall were ineffective recruiters by all accounts, but they were outstanding coaches. Sometimes you need guys who just plain coach up kids, like the entire KSU staff. If you can get a great coach and great recruiter both, like we have in Bebenbaugh and Gundy, then that’s icing on the cake.
You know Charlie North?
Yes I do.
Play for him or just know him
and besides, OU’s linebacker recruiting woes are traceable back to Mike Stoops rather than Kish. It was Mike who infamously removed LBs from the OU defense in 2013 and no doubt that singular decision is being used by all D-1 programs to negative recruit against OU in the battle for quality Lbs……over 20 LB offers and only 1 taker so far………..OU defenses are going to have to showcase LB play before national HS guys will become interested again …maybe this problem can be addressed by Montgomery in the Spring since he is now a co-coordinator with MS.
“Switzer’s great recruiting…” I think Lacewell might have landed one or three as we’ll….:-)
That’s one huge paragraph….geez
You make some good points, but my eyes tell me that Kish isn’t even a good position coach. How many times did our LBs either miss their fit, or get carried 2-3 yards after contact with the ball carrier? Then there’s the total inability to cover when they are asked to drop back (which we all know was too much, but that isn’t on Kish).
It would be much more difficult to fault Kish if our linebackers were playing better, but as it stands now, I don’t see anything to support the opinion that he is a good position coach.
Welcome to OU, little lady.
https://twitter.com/LincolnRiley/status/558834113814097920/photo/1
Beautiful sight, for all parties!
Yessir. Nothing on God’s green Earth sweeter than a little girl child.
To bad they grow up so fast.
Dangit!
Can’t even hold my grand daughters in my arms like that anymore.
Maybe I can hold out a little longer to hold my great grand daughters. 🙂
yep————–until they grow up and start messing with scuzball types, marry one, get pregnant, and have to raise the child ( or children) alone as a single parent —-then—remarry the same type person, get pregnant again and wind up worse off than before….
Don’t ever talk to me!
Stephen Dale. I don’t think you realize how negative you are. You turn just about everything dark and gloomy. I think you need a hug or something.
That sign makes me think the DB’s took it a bit too literal.
Better than the trash can known as Lubbock
“We get to play here now?”
…….now, can you say, feed the monster?
I have been reading a bit this morning! I just lay here being lazy, and wondering why nobody thinks Justice Hansen will be a factor in qb competition this year!
Its anybody’s game at this point.
Yes I know this, but every article that I read this morning, seemed to talk about Mayfield and Knight!
Because he was raw when he came in, and has zero college football game experience. I just think it highly unlikely that he will be the better option next year over guys that have seen the field.
I do!!! I think his dual threat capabilities are what he was recruited for but I had read somewhere that his arm was the better part of his game. I will be watching him intently this spring. Unless he just brings it I can see the starter being a contest between Mayfield and Thomas.
He has the size to fit well into a mutated air raid offense that LR like to run!
I don’t think Knight is out of it, especially compared to Thomas. Maybe Riley can do for Knight what the new TCU coaches did for Boykins. I don’t think anybody doubts Knight’s potential.
That said, I think it’s Mayfield’s job to lose, honestly.
This!
I think we have seen the ceiling of Knights potential.
If you’re talking about the Sugar Bowl (yes I’m Bob Stoops) then I like his ceiling 🙂
I’m never going to count a competitor out and Knight has shown himself to be a competitor. And maybe he can get healthy and raise his game a notch. Just think his skills and abilities are behind those of Hanson and Mayfield might have an edge having played in a similar offense. Gotta believe Riley can make 1 of these guys an effective QB and I don’t care which one.
Can’t see cody thomas being a factor next year he is a better baseball player than football player should just play baseball.
His HS tape is sick. He has all the skills and mechanics In place, just needs to get to college speed of reads and windows……. And recievers that can get their butts open.
my pick is another JH
Agree he was a 4 star recruit top 100 player in the nation been said he has a nice arm and is Mobile .
I think it’s another case of OUt of sight-OUt of mind.
I imagine he is chomping at the bit to show what he can do.
I know when he was in HS his team was doing well until he injured his ankle, then they fell apart!
I remember as well. Was disappointed for the young man, but he had already shown what he was capable of.
I like the cut of his jib and apparently so did just about every school in the country.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Justice-Hansen-116372
From what I have read, we aren’t getting a qb this year, I think LR will play the qb that best fits what he expects out of a offense! I watched some East Carolina film, I think Hansen fits his offense the best.
I think the next stellar QB is on this roster. If I had to pick, I’d say it will either be Baker Mayfield or Justice Hansen. I think Riley develop these QBs quite well. He knows what he has in 3 of the 4 and the way he spoke, with confidence, about the QBs on this roster has me excited to see what he can do.
With his system, who do you like better, beuchele or guarantano or someone else?
My 2cents, I really like the Guarantano kid in any system.
I think Guarantano is down to 3 not including OU so I will go Beuchele. I think if OU really wants him, they’ll get him w/ the family ties.
We’re already out on Guarantano? When did that happen?
this past week. Major bummer too. The kid looks like a Kapernick clone
That’s too bad. Well, hopefully Riley keeps talking to him. Plenty of time to fix that.
That was my thought as well. Don’t give up on him.
That’s the spirit!
Was thinking the same thing.
Or goes out and finds an equally talented kid to recruit.
Sure, plenty of talent out there.
prediction here is that Justice Hansen will be the starter
OT, but just found out.
R.I.P Ernie Banks.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-ernie-banks-dead-20150123-story.html
i had the honor and pleasure of meeting him and getting to talk to him once a few yrs ago. he was truly a class act. very humble. very down to earth. really nice, genuine person. and could still roll outta bed and hit .300
What an honor that must have been.
Classy, upbeat and was a flat out baller.
yeah. he’s definitely one of those guys that if he was your hero, he still was even after you met him
Agree. I met Bobby Orr at a charity golf tournament in the late 90s and he was a real gentleman. Personable, great sense of humor and didn’t take himself seriously at all. When I asked him what he did now that hockey was in his past, he said, “I’m Bobby Orr. That’s pretty much my job…”
haha. that’s priceless. what an answer
Let’s play two…
Just throwing out a little conversation for this unfortunately slow weekend. I doubt we make any new 2015 offers at this point. I think we have 6-7 spots left. Remembering that there’s always some NSD surprises, here’s our options I think:
QB K Murray
WR’s V Jefferson, D Lodge, M Hughes, D Reed
OL Wariboko, maybe Pat Allen
DE D Neal
DT Lampkin, D Daniels, J Wicker, D Mack
LB A McGinnis, L Brown, C Peat, J Smith
Hopefully we can get 6-7 of those 16. Any other names that should be included?
I would be happy with any of them, but would be emotionally destroyed if we don’t get McG.
Looks like he’s leaning towards Arizona. It’s those palm trees, dammit!!
(But seriously…he’s gonna be a good one)
Zona seems to be the main threat, at this point.
Can’t imagine why a kid from NOLA would want to go to Tucson.
Dry as opposed to humid?
Well, saying that to someone who prefers humid over arid makes no sense. 🙂
Don’t want to rag on Tucson, might offend some good folks here. I’ll just stick with ‘I don’t get it.’
I remeber Tucson as being a rather blah city/ town. Blast furnace hot in the summer time which is from late May to late October.
There are a whole bunch of people that seem to like it, me…I couldn’t get out of that place fast enough. Even when I was ready to leave I got delayed by a big sand storm.
I just remember the dry air just sucking the moisture out of me.
Maybe he doesn’t like big skeeters.
Or is really fond of sand and Ghila monsters?
He likes eating dinner at 5pm
Only because he hasn’t visited OU yet. No way he’d be more impressed with Arizona after that. #JustWaitOnIt
He’s visiting Lubbock this weekend, then OU next weekend.
The culture shock of Lubbock may be too much for the young man.
Him and JSmith our obviously our biggest needs. Would love to get D Mack though I know that wont happen.
My big hope for the surprise commit is “The Baby Face Killer”
Heads would explode across the country if that happened.
They would quit building 249 highway from Houston to CS.
I would say we’re in good shape with Jefferson and Neal. Decent shape with Wariboko and Daniels . Of the others some are doubtful to very doubtful to just unknown ( kids like Hughes and Reed )
From the sounds of it, Jefferson seems like OUr best bet for another addition to this class. After that, Neal and maybe Daniels. If OU wants to ‘fill out’ the class, will likely be a scholly available for Patterson if his academics are solid. Only other guy is McGinnis. The guy has been really quiet about his recruitment. If OU can actually get him on campus next weekend think they can sway him from AZ and Tech if Monty gets ahold of him. Other than that, maybe an ‘Orlando Brown’ falls to us.
Great list. Regarding K Murray, I’ve watched his highlights, 5 Star, I get it. But, he’s really small. With the Riley offense, quick slants, crossing patterns, lineman between 6’4 to 6’7 in front of you, can he be an effective passer? Watching the highlights, he’s not afraid to tuck it and run, and that might be counterproductive to the offense we’ll have this year. Feel free to beat me up over these comments, I’m just not sold on him.
I agree with you.
Not going to beat on you, just disagree for a simple reason, he is a “winner.”
The offense they ran at Allen is eerily similar to the offense they ran at ECU. Murray presents a unique threat to defenses in that the DL has to be disciplined to try and contain him which creates passing lanes. He moves well in the pocket and can make any throw known to man and has the acumen to see not only his receivers but the defenders, as well. I was constantly amazed at how he would drop a perfect pass over a LB dropping in coverage.
If the DL rushes recklessly he will take off and is fast and elusive.
He may be small at 5’11”, and he might reach 6’0″ when he stops growing, but playing some of the toughest competition at the highest classification of Texas High School football he is undefeated. Kid just wins.
I posted the same the other day. You call it lanes, I called it seams. Same same. Movement creates seams, and in regard to Riley’s offense, he appears to like mobility and the QB does run it. Combined with the RBs, Riley would be licking his chops with Murray. Having said all that, I don’t think there’s much or any shot at him.
I remain hopeful, not optimistic, that KM comes to OU.
The fact his best friend is on the OU baseball team and his current girl friend will be at OU in the fall are not small positives.
I agree Murray is an exceptional talent, I just don’t want him behind our center. I prefer a guy who can read and throw quickly and accurately, with enough mobility to keep defenses honest, not for the constant need to find passing lanes or strong desire to run. Riley’s own words minus the mobility part, but we need the ball out of the QB’s hands into multiple playmaker’s hands, Mayfield has proven ability to do this, and we haven’t even seen Hansen yet, 6’3, 220 lbs, with 4.5 speed. IMO, and respect yours.
No probs, we all have our preferences.
We have different observations on KM. I’ve watched him since he was a soph and he blew my mind then as a 15 year old. He got better and bigger each year. His 4500+ yards passing as a Senior belies the notion that he has a desire to run, but when he does he is a threat to take it all the way. Where he improved the most that I saw over those three years was his knowing where his receivers and defenders were. To have such an advanced knowledge of the passing game at 17 is remarkable.
Wish we could have seen Hansen’s development in his Senior year.
To add on, he’s used to throwing over a 6’4/5″ line. Go watch that tape again and look at his OL, they ain’t 5’11” chunky boys. Also, he creates more time in or out of the pocket. He’s groomed and knows throwing the ball is the key. He gets it.
He will be successful anywhere he goes.
Just say KM commits to us and knows that he has a great chance to play qb. Now, what happens if he didn’t start and say 2 or 3 on the depth chart. Now, if you are Riley, would you go to Stoops and say he lets get him on the field any way we can. Put him in the slot or at rb and let him make plays. He could use him to throw also out of those plays or do you just not use him redshirt him and wait til next year. To me if this kid can play, you want playmakers out there.
I just think it will be hard to keep him on the bench, he is such a competitor.
bold prediction someone from spiro, okla will be the surprise recruit this year can play D or O and has size to play multiple positions on both side of the ball
Will Wariboko be taking an unofficial to OU this weekend or next weekend?
Think he is in Cali this weekend :>(
He’s in Cali at some All-Star game, I believe.
NO Boom today? Feb 5 only?
I suspect things will start shaping up the day or two before national signing day with the usual few surprises on that morning. Seems like there are some recruits just waiting to see where other recruits are going and then jumping the other way. I think the Josh Smith ship has sailed. That, IMO, leaves McGinnis as the remaining really need to gets left on the board. Any other recuit is will be icing as from what I can see OU has addressed the other positions pretty well or already has the dept needed. Lamp kin would also be a really could pick up since the kid from Jenks may be a no go and OU will need a guy who can play the middle.
Kahlil Haughton will be in Norman today.
Everything I’ve read says this kid will make a really good safety in regards to his smarts and football IQ. He may need a year to bulk up so I suspect he may not see the field his freshman year.
What does our safety depth chart look like without him? Parker, Byrd, and Thomas, obviously. Who else?
2015 Recruit Sunderland and a bunch of freshmen that haven’t played.
When Super K said he called the defenses at Midway and I saw the video where they beat Highland Park in the playoffs with their sophisticated multiple offense, that told me volumes about Kahlil.
Love his game.
Can someone give me a run down of who is already on campus (early enrollees) from this class? I thought I heard there were six and that includes the JC guys.
WR Dede Westbrook & John Humphrey, OL Jamal Danley & Bobby Evans, CB Will Johnson, RB Rodney Anderson,
Thanks. Didn’t Bobby Evans have knee surgery during his Senior season?
Not sure what surgery (you might be right) but yeah, he was out for much of the year.
It was ACL
ACL surgery.
Kahlil Haughton’s visiting today. Also received a 4th * from Rivals this week. Really glad he’s a Sooner!
https://twitter.com/Kahlilhaughton/status/559042137493213185
He’s gonna be a good one.
Hope he comes in at 195, that would really help
Don’t kill the messenger here, but a poster on 247 who’s been pretty good on the scoops has said ol’ miss has put on a show for the visitors this weekend. From what he has heard Van Jefferson is having a great time.
Guess they’re not watching the Peach Bowl rerun.
Wait, so an Ole Miss site mod thinks a kid is gonna go to Ole Miss? And who has a vested financial interest in convincing his paying subscribers of such a thing? Be still my beating heart! That type of stuff never happens 😉
Boy oh boy gone all morning & comes back with a little sarcasm. Somebody got no booty last night!
This weekend definitely feels like a bust instead of a BOOM.
I read elsewhere that OU didn’t have any OV’s in the two weeks before NSD last year either, I can’t remember.
I don’t think we’ll make any new offers and I think our remaining commits will come from guys who’ve already visited. Call it bad planning that we don’t have any new OV’s here in the last couple of weeks if you’re pessimistic. Call it efficient that everyone we want has already visited if you’re optimistic 🙂
And we’re only a year removed from beating Bama in the Sugar Bowl….oops I said it. Seriously though, I would rather have guys on campus that we don’t have a chance with than nobody at all. I hate seeing that Norman is empty and other schools are putting on one last big show for recruits.
There are some busts I am quite fond of.
Agreed!
…….an earlier poster’s prayer was answered?
Former OU commit
https://twitter.com/DemetricDWarren/status/559087090290688000
I read Patterson is visiting KSU this weekend.
It’s probably posted somewhere but I can’t find a roster for todays senior bowl. Does anyone know if or who we have playing?
Geneo Grissom & Daryl Williams
thanks Jordan !
Any word yet on Josh Smith? Will he be in Oklahoma or Oregon next weekend? Sorry if I didn’t see it in the comments below.
Can’t be certain, but Rivals doesn’t show him listed as an official at OU or UO.
Williams looking pretty good so far. Would love to see Geneo make a big play today.
With Justin Reid out, do we get back in it with DeChaun Holiday?
The word is that we’re done at DB.
TFB, I know you’re sitting on some exciting, juicy updates, so out with it!
I would settle for a update that says there are no new updates at this point!
Womens bball team wins again! 70-64 over tech. Still undefeated in conference play. I don’t think anyone saw this kind of performance coming from such a young team.
Man Jacob’s look’s scared. It’s a favor for us, Jacobs has a little DBG in him. Mizzo training program is not near as challenging as OU. DBG throwing up, just like the kid that thought our lineman are huge and committed to tt the next day. OU practice is extremely challenging in every way. Your going against some of the best pro level athletes in some positions. I think that could be challenging. Look who we are recruiting, they are not coming to sit I promise you. I would GLADLY take an open weekend for a suprise monster on NSD. We already have a surprise nugget in a excited preferred walk on name Arises I think correct the name please.
Mizzou has been in the SEC champ game the past 2 seasons. They’ve also sent several D lineman in the NFL. DGB’s past issues at Mizzou shouldn’t be compared to Jacobs, because they aren’t related in any way.
I wish Jacobs the best and believe he’ll be a good player there.
I think you are referring to Aaron Sims.
Yes thanks
I’m the founder and President of the Aaron Sims fan club. LOL!
I want to be VP of said club. Maybe chief cook and bottle washer too.
Can someone help me understand why further coaching changes haven’t been announced? Conventional wisdom says announce and draw on interest from recruits but somehow I don’t think that matters much. Not bangin on anyone just want to understand.
They aren’t as important positions as OC and other guys are probably recruiting for their respective schools and Stoops respects that. Plus Viney and Callens have really been tearing it up out there.
tearing it up?
please explain.
Based on what we know, NSD seems to be the consensus.
So is the strategy to let specific recruits know who their position coach will be? I’m asking due to the coaching ambiguity for db’s.
Based on what we know, we don’t know. :-0
Gotta believe Norvell’s and BJW’s replacements are current college coaches and there is some agreement to wait until after nsd for them to leave/announcements.
This^
Probably because they’re probably not happening!
You know for two day’s you have been on this nothing is going to happen in the coaching staff what do you think if no changes are made on the defensive staff and we lose five games again next year? You want to know all hell is going to break out and people like you will come up eith your usual excuses.
…..try boxers
i really wonder if you’re around 12 yrs old. you get on here about miami this and miami that. miami, miami, miami. then you harp about eastex picking on you. to the point of shedding internet tears. just a lot of childish nonsense out of your camp. and what is it with people and futures that haven’t happened yet or non existent futures? we don’t know how to answer those things that sound good in your head
Things that make you go…hmmm.
Looks like a big guppie in shallow water!
It’s supposed to be a gif and it won’t animate…dangit.
It will if you click on the pic:-)
Ah-Ha!
Thanks.
i’d say more like this
I just want to know if you think bob stoops is as good a coach as Urban Meyer ?
if you or him or saban could look yourselves in a mirror and know you are playing by the rules. i don’t care about if you ain’t cheating you ain’t competing and all that crap. take out oversigning, take out bag men, and whatever else there is. even playing field and no doubt in my mind he’s just as good
You know i have respected to wishes of a certain person not to directly or indirectly mention him by name but for to day’s i have listen to him to take shots at me indirectly what a damn hypocrite some of you people are after i haven’t mentioned his name in weeks
i believe i speak for all of us babe when i say….huh?
He’s referring to me.
I will have no direct contact with him, but I can certainly reply to those who do.
you got a sentence outta that?
Just the gist of it, but only after reading your comment.
I am not backing down anymore on this site there are some of you all you do is criticize certain fans on this website because we are tired of the losing .
yeah that’s it. that’s exactly it. nobody likes to lose. what we don’t like is the incessant whining. when a couple handfuls of people show up everyday and have a bitchoff it not only gets old, it gets obnoxious. so if people wanna call me police or whatever, so be it. i have this site where the bitching isn’t front and center all day, every post. you guys have umpteen sites to go bitch with each other. go there. i want to enjoy this one. if it becomes nothing but “sunshine pumping” or whatever you guys are calling it this week, i don’t care. i don’t want to see negativity every single post every single day. that’s why i left landthieves. if you want, go there. you can curse, bitch, moan, cry, or whatever you want. if you wanna have a conversation have it. if you wanna bitch or be negative or ask about stuff that doesn’t exist or invent stuff that doesn’t exist just to bitch about something scram
Look if we are winning I would be the most happiest person on this site I would be with you 100% but I don’t agree with you I am being negative all the time also tell me what am i inventingon this site?
i’m not just talking to you dudley. i mean all the negative folk. some people invent stuff to complain about. like there’s not enough bitching to go around, some create things that don’t even exist. off the top of my head, i got nothing but its there
Don’t you think winning cures everything then there would be no negativity on this site.
nope. nothing gets rid of pessimism. it wouldn’t be a word or have a definition
A cancer cell doesn’t know it is deadly to the host, it thinks it is just like any other cell.
James I would not even waste Ur time…..And I’m not surprised at who is at the end of this
convo—the #1 blind stoops lover to the rescue…LOL Give it a rest sonny
boy U are outta your league….
haha. castorboytroy is back and has his boy dudley’s back. now if we could only get stephen dale in here, we’d have the triumvirate of idiocy
What a Duo of Dumba**ery.
a neglected Toilet Twosome
a Duo of Douches
a Trio of Taints
……dudley, do you have enough kleenex
Just read something on John Houston being close and really liking Kish. If OU lands him I wonder if Kish will be less on the hot seat. That is if he is even ON the hot seat of course.
They have no chance to land john Houston he is going to usc.
Hey Ferguson I feel ya. That was not my point. My point is Both choose mizzo over OU one of DBG friend’s said that DBG choose Mizzo because he knew he would get away with things that would not fly at OU. That’s all I’m saying, something to consider.
Gotcha, I’ve never heard the “get away with things that would not fly at OU” rumor before. I just think Mizzou is doing something right due to their recent success and Jacobs being a recruit I was high on
What they did right was go to the sec East division when they did.
Indoor understand that. have a great evening
Dear Lord be my valentine and send Jim Leavitt to Norman.
To coach WR’s? That’s the only position that is open or likely to be open. Don’t think he’ll be a great WR coach.
Ummm no, Defensive C0-Coordinator.
Anyone follow twitter? can ‘see’ McGinnis’ tweets? Wonder how his TT visit is going. Also, do not recall him tweeting out ‘Boomer’ or reaching out to OU fans. On one of the sites there was a twitter feed from him a few months ago and his was very interesting. A lot of inspirational/motivational things instead of the usual. Besides having some of the best LB film I watched, just get the feeling this kid is very squared away and highly motivated to do good things on and off the field. Just get the sinking feeling OU staff hasn’t really made him the high priority. Did they even do an ‘in home’ with him? Didn’t see staff tweets of him holding a golden hat or anything.
They did an in home Jan 15.
Here is his twitter page.
https://twitter.com/amg_arthur
Outstanding! From Static-X to the twittervierse…Tex…you never cease to surprise me. As you can see from his feeds and he has started a foundation, very mature young guy. Really would like to see him at OU next year. Would be a solid addition on all levels. #fingerscrosssed #HulkemSooner
From what little I know of the young man I think he would be a Sooner great.
We just got to get him on campus if we do that then I think all will be ok.
I agree, visiting a few days before NSD might be a huge advantage.
Think so, too. It’s the players, like Gabe Campbell was saying, who embrace the recruits and make them feel like they are family.
Just looked at the extended forecast for next weekend…not good. Cold front blows in on Friday, highs in the 40’s lows in the 20’s with rain…possible ice on Friday night.
Well one thing he may not see often if ever is snow in New Orleans.
Has it ever snowed in NOLA?
If it never snows in Houston then I would say no.
http://www.myneworleans.com/New-Orleans-Magazine/January-2013/When-It-Snowed-in-New-Orleans/
Question answered.
Thanks.
Just got back from watching America sniper you’re right, what a powerful movie.
It truly is.
You just gave me goose bumps thinking about it.
Watching this OU /Baylor game. Man, this OU team is frustrating, fun, ugly & beautiful all wrapped up into one.
C’mon boys, get it!
The rim seems dead for them.
Sure does…. Cousins wrist injury could be huge. Not much depth on this team!
Hope not, he did bang that one triple not long after the injury.
Just hit one there. Maybe the wrist is ok.
You notice that they came out more “lively” and the rim suddenly got “lively.” Funny how that works.
Yessir!
SMH… losing sux!
…and blows!
I’m ready to fast forward to MLB spring training, watch some STL on the daily. These Sooner sports teams giving the blues…. Good chatting EasTex.
Just a little crazy wishful thinking post, maybe Stoops is waiting for Shawn Jefferson to fulfill his coaching duties for the Senior Bowl then will announce the hiring…..Obviously I have no idea but would make sense as to why Gundy said good news was coming. Yell at me in all caps if you want:)
Based on what we know, that is as good as speculation has been, lately.
Gundy said what?
He tweeted “more great news today” on the day he visited Jefferson. It was actually Montgomery that tweeted something about next week and B##M. My bad for the mix up
I hate watching OU lose at any sport. It ruins my day.
Yeah.
This game sucked.
This team is so bi-polar. Never know which team is showing up from game to game. They have the talent to compete for the conference title but for whatever reason can’t figure it out.
Hield got into foul trouble and Thomas is playing too timid. He’s a man-child. Go play your strengths.
Not a lot of depth on this team either. No bench scoring whatsoever. I think next year is going to be the year for this team to make a run in the tourney.
With you. However, they are no where near a finished product. We have played by far the hardest schedule to date. The Big 12 is one of if not the most difficult conference so it’s not going to get easier. That said, even in a loss, you have to love the direction this team is headed. They will be game tested by years end which will pay dividends.
+1,000
Eh, don’t go making excuses. This team hasn’t played up to expectations (everybody’s, not just mine) all season. Up and down. No consistency. Below average on offense. Soft inside at times.
I just posted this stat over at OUHoops. Only 3 times in 29 seasons as a D1 HC has Lon Kruger taken a team to the Sweet 16 or further. Unfortunately, what you see with this team this year, has been what Lon produced most of the time.
Ok, we disagree, no worries. I’m not making excuses and don’t see anywhere in my post that I gave an excuse. Maybe Kruger isn’t the guy to take us to the finals but he does a wonderful job everywhere he’s been to turn around bottom feeders.
+1000
+1001
I wonder if we will see some surprise late steals or offers like Orlando Brown was, or Frison (though with Frison, we were recruiting him pretty constantly whereas Brown was a complete surprise). Maybe we can benefit from the same kind of overcommitted college screw ups. Would love a LB or two to suddenly need to find a scholarship after losing out on a numbers game.
Not sure if it will happen – just find it hard to see us landing every one of our few known heavily recruited targets. I feel we have more scholarships available than known likely to commit targets.
I’m sure we will see a couple names we haven’t heard before or heard any forward motion with those recruits, come NSD. Not sure that will be a good thing though
Hopefully we land a few nice commits to round out a pretty solid haul. I just hope we don’t throw out Hail Mary scholarship offers to guys who may not be good enough to receive one.
Looking at a few schools, there well could be some potential “grey shirts” that don’t want to go that route.
Sure hope Overton gets things in order.
Watching “Tombstone” with my son. On my bucket list of Westerns to watch with him.
We’ve seen all of Clint Eastwood Westerns.
I’m your Huckleberry.
Why Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just, walked over your grave.
You guys are killing me.
I have the whole thing memorized
I see. That’s Val Kilmer’s best role ever.
Yes it is, by far.
He’s had a few good roles then fell off the edge of the world….Top Gun…The Doors…and Tombstone are the ones I thought he was top notch in…he was in a few others but since I can’t recall the names you can see they didn’t make as big an imprint on me…one was a spy thriller
He was in Real Genius also. My kind of humor.
Ill have to check it out
He was also in a good movie with Denzel Washington called Deja Vu.
Jerry, if you think that by threatening me you can get me to be your slave… Well, that’s where you’re right. But – and I am only saying this because I care – there are a lot of decaffeinated brands on the market today that are just as tasty as the real thing.
heat was one of his best, to me
He was excellent.
Whoever the technical consultant was on that deserves all the credit. When they were coming out of the bank and he spotted the Police lurking, the immediate response to a threat was beautiful to watch. He immediately swung his M-4 out and engaged, no shouting or other nonsense, just got to work.
haha. he let it eat for sure
Also in The Doors, he did all of the singing…that’s taking it too another level…that one and Tombstone are my favs as far as his performance
Thunderheart, The Saint
Thunderheart is one of my favorite movies of all time.
He played a good Elvis in “True Romance”. Great movie for those who haven’t seen it.
Sounds like a chick flick
Yeah, it is. Killings, coke, pimps, Elvis, Bruce Lee movies, and long walks on the beach. Patricia Arquette, Christan Salter, Dennis Hopper, Gary Oldman, James Gandolfini, and Kilmer.
And Brad Pitt as the stoner friend in Vegas.
Forgot about Brad during all the action. I never forget Oldman’s pimp though. Sold me on his acting abilities.
Oh, no-no-no. He steals from the Mob(Christopher Walken) and is chased to Vegas and has a big shoot out.
How could I have forgotten Christopher Walken. Looking at the floor in shame.
Or that scene with Dennis Hopper talking about the Sicilian bloodline.
Buncha eggplants.
Ha. Just goes to show you, you can’t go off the title. May have to watch that when the kiddos are not around.
No, definitely don’t want the young’uns around with that on.
Underrated flick..
Skin it, skin that smoke wagon!
Wellll…………bye:-)
“There’s something about that reminds me of….me. I don’t like him.”
Named my son Wyatt after earp
Cool. Strong name, isn’t it?
I like it. My neighbor is older and calls him Wyatt Earp
Zack Earp doesn’t have the same ring to it. lol
after is a strange middle name 😉
“Unforgiven” and “Man on Fire” are my rainy day go to’s.
Man on fire with Denzel?
Only one I know of.
There is a newer movie by that name, but no one has seen it.
Not aware. Denzel torturing bad guys.
My bad, it is older than the one with Denzel.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093489/
I didnt think many liked that. I do though. My go to would be enemy of the state
lonesome dove series is the best ever.
Both of the Young Guns movies were good too. It’s where Jack Bauer got his training
They were all right, but they’re not movies that I can watch time after time. Not rainy day movies.
I can watch Repo Man anytime, anywhere.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087995/?ref_=nv_sr_1
The one movies I like to watch over and over are Porky’s, Caddyshack, Remember the Titans, Radio and Blindside.
3:10 to Yuma..
The one with Glenn Ford
I actually like the Christian Bale version better.. Ben Foster is excellent in it.. Also, anytime someone talks about westerns.. High Noon has to be mentioned.. All time classic..
Suggest my all-time favorite Western, Once Upon a Time in the West. Henry Fonda, Charles Bronson, Jason Robards and last but not least, Claudia Cardinale- ooo-la-la!
Texas lost their QB commit to Michigan.
That makes me feel terrible.
I just scanned Texsa’s commit list and I’m just not that impressed.
Yeah, they went national, spurned Texas high school coaches in the process, and now have lost many of those out of state guys. Tactical error so far.
I think Strong has a long row to hoe to get into the good graces of Texas high school coaches.
I think if OU can beat the 3 texsa teams next year those recruits will come north!
Got a few defensive guys I’d like to see play for Ou
I would take Jefferson and Lampkin, that’s about it.
wow, not a single update today….
Not a lot happening, sorry
I’m going to take it as no news is good news.
I really like that you monitor this sight, and make comments. I just want to say thank you!
You guys are so crazy (in a good way), I can’t monitor them all but I do by best to try and not let things be ignored.
If checking IPs, JB and BloodRed/Castor. One seems to show up and upvote the other while saying the same stuff in the same way. Just wondering. Thanks.
I hope OU makes the tournament
I don’t think there is any chance they don’t make the tournament.
A 13 loss team might not make it
We were a 9 seed last year with 12 losses.
Samaje Perine at the children’s hospital
He had a bunch of his good buds with him.
https://twitter.com/Jaybird51703/status/559168265318965248/photo/1
That’s the first pic of Samaje I’ve seen where he looks small….or I should say short…we all know he’s stout
He was standing between guys that are 6’4″ and 6’5″, he ought to look short. If they were built like him for their height, then we could say he is small. LOL.
Looks like Cody is sporting a six-pack.
Christian is actually listed at 6’7 300…if anything it makes Striker look taller than I thought he was if Samaje is 5’11…could be the posture…always heard that Striker was shorter than his 6’0 listing
My mistake, then.
It ain’t the size of the dog in the fight…you know the rest.
Samaje’s size isn’t the thing, I was mainly noticing height…Samaje has the rare ability to move the way he does for his size and I can’t wait to see more
Just think what he will be like when he grows up. :-0
He’ll get mistaken for a granpa
Granpa-Optimus.
Yeah but striker is only 6 flat so 5’10 for perine. But hey who cares he’s the next beast mode
I wonder not only about their listed heights, but also the angles and posture in the photo.
The taller guys are mostly wearing boots. It gives them a little boost.
Good eye.
The other thing that stands out is that knight doesn’t appear “too short” to see over the middle. I think that had to be a developmental thing.
Yeah, or an inability to process info clearly and quickly.
quickly is my guess
What a sweetheart!!!!
Another pic from the OU Children’s Hospital.
https://twitter.com/cdaimler70/status/559189512811589635/photo/1
And this is why I love OU football under the Stoops tenure. I’ve heard so many positives about Stoops and the boys throughout the years regarding their involvement in the OU community. A nurse buddy of mine had told me the story about how Stoops had stopped to visit a terminally ill fan and due to unfortunate circumstances was present for their passing. Talked about the grace of Stoops amidst heartbreak outside of football.
I feel the same as you.
He leads by good example and gives of himself.
For all his failures on the field this past season, Coach definitely stands tall in the community, especially when it comes to kids.
Louis Brown committed to Oklahoma state. Why????
Who can say?
Good luck to the young man.
It twas….the Kish of death! The Kish of death I say!!
Too easy.
You ever see his home town? Reminds me of Stalewater.
Source? Can’t find anything that shows that he committed. All I can see is that he is on a visit this weekend.
He actually tweeted it out.
He tweeted it. Where are you looking?
I see. Thank you. I don’t tweet so that’s why I didn’t see it. Rivals and 247 didn’t have any updates last night when I checked.
Oh OK. Kind of wish we could have landed that guy, good luck to him though.
Seems like that was his intention when he decommited while in Austin. Real bummer. We just can’t catch a break when it comes to LB this year
I’m hoping we can steal John Houston from California
Starting to hear some smoke that Van Jefferson is now leaning toward Ole Miss. Hoping he makes out of their without committing.
Really would like to see MOAR LBs signed…seem to just keep slipping away, like farts in the breeze.
used to own some PIMCO selections in my IRA…….found better results elsewhere with other investment funds……………..
So Kansas beats Texas by 13 and ESPN headline says “Kansas tops texas”. Baylor Beats OU by 11 and ESPN headline reads “Baylor drubs Oklahoma”. ESPN you suck.
Happy Sunday to all. To my Sooner brothers and sisters visiting your church families, he is risen!
He is risen indeed!!!
Football, dude. Football.
He created the ball. And the game.
Huh?
While I certainly share your love for football, I can’t imagine you take the time to reply to every other non-football related post on these threads to say that.
But yes, football is indeed a wonderful thing. 🙂
Indeed, Indeed.
Geezus our luck at corralling some LBs really sucks.
Is our struggles with recruiting linebackers due to what the recruits see from the linebacker play on the field? Meaning they know the development of their skills may not happen under Kish?
Might have just as much to do with the experienced depth. These kids want to start, and if there is experience in front of them another school with less of it looks a little better. The Smith/Vandy thing mystifies me a little, but it’s considered a very good school academically. Some kids want the specified education thing too.
One thing about Smith canceling, his offer list shows he visited Cal on the 20th. Flying back to Tenn. and then to Norman on the 23rd might have been too gruelling. He still isn’t showing an official scheduled for OU or UO.
It could be that academics are his highest priority.
That’s a thought in the back of my mind too. Some of these kids get the smarts thing as well as the athletic thing. All the more of a loss. I’m not panicking about the season with what we already have. If we strike out like this next year though I’ll be toeing the ledge.
A pleasant thought is he visits next weekend with McG and they both sign on NSD.
I would be like Ren and Stimpy.
That’s what I like about you; your thought processes.
So you like tangential, eh. LOL!
I practice it consistently. Way more fun than focus.
247 shows an official to oregon jan 30.
You’ve ruined Sunday. I hope you’re happy.
LMAO! Ruined mine too!
Misery loves company.
Okay, then.
Thanks.
/*sigh*
Maybe he will cancel and come to Norman. One things for sure he doesn’t mind doing that.
Okay, then.
Thanks.
/*sigh**sigh*
There has to be decent lb prospect out there that we can convince to commit this completely inexcusable we are running a 3-4 its two weeks til signing day yet the only one we have we owe it to Montys hard work.
Chris Daniels looks big and has good feet. Has a tendency to stand straight up at the snap. Just a technique thing, so he could be a good one. Has to correct his rush out of the stance, but that’s what experience is for.
Had to look him up, he is 6’4 280lbs. Didn’t look that big on the video, which means he is still a growing lad.
Pretty offer list already for someone who isn’t ranked yet.
Looks pretty big to me, but the teams might be from the wizard of oz. Who knows, but he has pretty good feet, and looks long and lean. Probably put 20-30 on that frame.
I didn’t doubt he was a big boy, just in comparison with all the others I couldn’t tell.
As well as he moves that 280, I don’t think 300+ will be a problem for him.
McGinnis is the commit I value most, at this time, and was curious as to why he was visiting Zona. I looked at Zona on Rivals, they are currently ranked 36th with 26 commits and not one of them is ranked higher than 3 stars. Of course stars don’t mean everything, just a useful guide for valuing recruiting classes.
What I did find interesting and may help explain his official visit to Zona was 6 of their commits are from Louisiana and two of them were team mates with McG.
I hope his official to OU next week is a good one.
I just hope he shows. Late in the game, the last visit is often the winner.
If i didn’t love my OU football so much this LB recruiting this year is almost amusing at this point. I understand the Kish factor but i just cant get my head around why we keep missing on all these guys.
Not all were desirable, some were slow played due to wanting others. But someone posted that of 20 offers we have 1. If it ends this way, I’d like to hear from Coach on NSD why this happened. I’m wanting for Smith and/or McGinnis or?
I will never understand why people say what you said in your last sentence.
Not all of these kids are simply looking at the best football program to offer them, and committing. I agree I can’t really see the appeal of choosing TT over us, but the weather and stuff of Zona might appeal to him, coming from Louisiana. Who knows? Maybe he just really, really likes the coach that is recruiting him there. That happens. Doesn’t mean (in this one case) that Kish did anything wrong. People just connect with different types of folks.
It’s the whole “what did we do wrong” every time we lose out on a single recruit that I don’t get.
Recruiting is a battle. Nothing wrong with a player choosing a school for other than on the field results. In my mind it’s about 1. Education 2. Winning tradition 3. Next level (NFL) opportunities. However, some kids may not care about tradition, winning etc…They rather get on the field early…this could be the reason for parity.
My comment had nothing to do with Kish. Some of the posters here blame Kish. I just would like to know why 1 LB this cycle? I tried to point out that we have a lot of freshmen/soph LB on the roster and some people said we need 4 in this class!
I hope Monty sticks with McGinnis like glue… from the time he arrives to the moment he leaves.
This is just sad OU can’t recruit LB’s. Perhaps OU should put up statues our Butkis award winners!
Many, many years ago I went to bed with worries on my mind and I was troubled. I had no answers for my situation. Despite my worries, surprisingly, I fell asleep. The things that worried me eventually during the day found its way to into my sleep, slithering like snake, continuing to create doubt.
However, a calming voice, the voice of God, asked me a singular question, to which I answered “Yes.”
I fell back into my deep sleep, woke up, my perspective on life forever changed.
I am still driven by that change in perspective: we try desperately to hold onto what God is trying to get us turn loose.
The coaches can’t change the the LB situation. They can only work with what they have, knowing, things will be fine in the end. Things always work out fine for those who believe it will be.
Is this a joke? The coaches can’t change the LB situation?
Eric, all I’m saying is this, next season will come, the schedule has to be played. OU will field a team. What that looks like, I don’t know. But they can’t worry about if they have the perfect team. They have to work with what they have and believe they will get the desired outcome. That’s all I’m saying.
Hmmm. Thought there was no politics and no religion on this board.
I understand how you got there. I can refrain from religious comments. You have a valid point. I was attempting to illustrate how I came to be the way I am when it appears the sky is falling.
I respect what you’ve said. I will do my best not to go there in the future.
… explained coach kish, immediately before he was fired.
Well said.
Wut?
i call BS.
What did Bob Stoops say when you called? Any LB news?
That is an identification of your strengths, and weakness.
Yes but the Bible also says it rains on the just and the unjust.
Well said. Learn to be “still”.
1000 plus comments wow…imagine if we were an elite team in something other than gymnastics or softball
this alone shows you why when you play Texas or OSU . …you need to beat their ass to a pulp
to be honest I’m pissed we still have Mike but the knowledge is there…losing at home to OSU is like dropping a bottle of Cognac . ..it isn’t coming back and it haunts you for a long long time…so now what
With the hire of Riley are we going to try to out a score everyone ? Championships are built on speed and defense…I’m so disgruntled I can’t find the wordd
There wasn’t a ton of defense played in the 3 playoff games this year.
Some will say Ohio State played some, and they did, play some, but they also got pretty lucky and played a team in the NC game that was playing without their top two WR’s. OU fans should know what it’s like to play in a NC game without a top offensive weapon.
Well agree with you on this I think if we had DeMarco Murray vs Florida we would have won that national championship.
Considering it seems Riley is targeting speed already, not quite sure why you are so disgruntled. As for defense, why not give until after NSD when we get a true idea what our new coaching lineup is (with all titles of coaching duties announced). Just a thought.
Agreed on the D staff. I still think a major change is coming, even if it is just replacing Kish (and getting a new secondary coach). But if not, it tells me Bob likes the staff, just thinks we need better players. And I can’t completely disagree with that. But I would think Kish would be on the move if recruiting is what Bob thinks is the biggest issue, and we don’t get some very good news on the LB recruiting front. Soon.
Just get the feeling if Kish stays on, his position will be recruited by other, more social comfortable coaches. Kish may still recruit, but perhaps the onus will be towards a more consistent offense coaches recruit their side of the ball and defense do likewise. If we land a DB coach as successful as Monty, we might see those two doing the bulk of the key visiting, building of personal relationships etc. If Kish remains, am going to believe its because he coaches well, and they have identified he needs help on the recruiting side.
the team that scores most usually wins
agree with you 100 percent but there’s other people on this site who think that you are just being – because we want to win but we don’t agree with the current coaching staff.
If Smith doesn’t cancel his Oregon trip and reschedule one to OU hes probably out so other than McGinnis who is left at this point?
He doesn’t have to sign on NSD, it could come later.
Ferguson and Whitfield are two names that I’d keep an eye on…maybe Whitfield is wishful thinking…I’d hope he would switch from TU with a last minute offer but who knows
Rumors out the Jefferson committed to Ole Miss this weekend.
Dont think he has committed yet but word is hes enjoying his visit. The way the last week has gone i figure he will commit within the hour
An Ole Miss writer has said it. Nothing offical from Jefferson though. Fwiw.
More news out of New England in breaking press conference…..
What is up with that horrendous carpet in the pokes’ locker room?
I just tweeted at Van Jefferson & he DM’d back saying he hasn’t committed.
Thanks, bud.
No problem.
The Rebs seem to think differently
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=177&f=1103&t=13602727
Seems like trolling to me. If he’s committed, why not say he’s committed, as opposed to saying ‘in the boat’?
I don’t know. Maybe they just literally have him partying it up on a gambling boat on the Mississippi river.
Now, that was a funny reply. LOL!!!
I think this is where it all started.
Ben Garrett @SpiritBenFollow
Hearing #OleMiss picked up a commitment from four-star wide receiver Van Jefferson. Working to confirm.
I couldn’t find his tweeter
Mine was public his was a dm back only I could see.
Thanks man I was trying to find his so I can follow
https://twitter.com/Vj2kAllDay
I watched the 2012 OU-Texass game last night. THAT IS THE DEFENSE OU NEEDS TO GO BACK TO. Of course it had Hurst and Colvin at corner. Jefferson and Harris were the safeties and were solid. The linebackers ( yes Kish was their coach) were a force. The d-line (King, Washington, Casey Walker, Ndule) was beating up the texass o-line and stuffing the run and harassing Ash. That texass offense had been humming along too. Perhaps a perfect storm occurred in Norman- Mike tried too much with a young or inexperienced secondary against offense that were just really good at what they do and the OU offense was just unable to stay on the field on a regular basis. Later that season Mike began to tweak the defense trying to tune it up and just messed things up. Perhaps with a defense that has a better feel for the game he doesn’t have to keep correcting the basic things. The OU defense lost its confidence and tenacity midway through the season, that too is problematic as attitude sets the tone for everything else.
Is it possible Mike is moving to a 4-2-5? Could that explain the lack of urgency for signing more LBers?
Could be a few DEs are moving to OLB. I think Ward might be a candidate for this. Obo is going to do just fine (#82).
I wouldnt say there isnt a urgency. I’m thinking that its just not happening
4-2-5 makes some sense. OU was dropping eight into coverage on a regular basis. Seems that coverage would be better done by a DB than that extra linebacker. I realize there are several combinations that can be placed on the field.
It’s also possible that LBs aren’t as critical a need this year. Fans seemed more worried about it than coaches.
Welp, moving on from Van Jefferson…
Rest easy boys, TFB confirmed that Jefferson has not committed.
TFB did? Ok!
Lol! You don’t count, I guess.
I guess not.
Van Jefferson update added
Great that relieves my mind a little bit we need van Jefferson bad.
All I’ve been hearing is that Van Jefferson is going to commit to OU. What’s this Ole Miss garbage? Following recruiting will age you like being President. Smh.
Ole Mi$$ is getting annoying.
Ok soo… Can anyone tell me what’s going on with Jeffereson after I nearly had a heart attack about him committing to Ole Piss?
We added an update. It would appear the Ole Miss people jumped the gun and falsely reported his commitment.
Doesn’t mean he won’t commit to Ole Miss tomorrow (or maybe even later today), but as of right now, in the young man’s own words, he has not committed.
This is the kind of stuff that happens when you have people trying to report things who care more about being first, than they do about being right.
Well said!
So are you surprised by the smoke surrounding this given the update at the top of the page?
I said before he made the trip to never underestimate Ole Miss when it comes to recruiting. TFB has talked about the stuff that goes on down there. I’m not surprised at all a school like that could get into a kid’s head.
And I’m not saying Jefferson won’t eventually commit to Ole Miss. I don’t know that any more than anybody else does or doesn’t. I just know that he didn’t commit today and that’s what was reported.
Money talks. $EC
Kinda like when Dean broke the news about Lincoln Riley early…always a race to be the first…but if there is smoke here, then there is likely fire too…
Yep, no doubt. Dean nailed that one. But he was also the first/only one who reported this: http://www.news9.com/story/26596859/breaking-mayfield-request-granted-by-ncaa
So, you know, it’s a bit of a sliding scale.
Don’t misinterpret what I said. Nobody is going to be right 100% of the time. It’s obviously about being right more than you’re wrong, but the expectation isn’t ever going to be that nobody will make a mistake now and then.
I don’t disagree. I was just citing a recent example of a similar situation that turned out to be true. There have been many instances where the result ended up being false as well. I’d love for the reports to be false. But I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if they are true.
I’m not sure what else you can ask for than a direct quote from the kid himself.
I mean if you don’t want to believe him and would rather believe people who have a vested financial interest in reporting Ole Miss news then you certainly have that right.
fwiw, the Ole Miss people have already started to back off what they put out there, or so I’ve been told.
Really, Jordan, I’m not disagreeing with you. I just know things happen when you’re dealing with the SEC…the only conference historically more corrupt than the old SWC…and this late in the recruiting season things happen anyway, so I believe that he hasn’t committed if he says he hasn’t, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he does tonight or tomorrow…if OU can survive the next couple of days without him committing to Ole Miss, then they’ve got a great chance…the next 48 hours will be a long 48 hours…
No disagreement here. Was just trying to add some context. All good, apologies if you took what I said otherwise. That was not my intention.
By the way Jordan, I think you guys do a great job of getting info…I appreciate it, as I know many people do…
Very much appreciate you saying so! We’re just trying to give the people what they want 🙂
That you do. Thanks.
esco………did ou miss on riley daniel…….thxs
I guess only time will tell, but it looks like there’s certainly a chance of that.
Jordan…is OU ever going to hire a WR coach and DB coach? It seems to me to that NOT having those in place would be a detriment to recruiting.
some think we have our guys but have to wait because of “professional curtesy” or for a contract to expire, say after signing day with their former employers
AFTER signing day? Could we possibly bungle anything else this year? Wait, don’t answer that…I don’t want to know what the next screw up is lingering around the corner.
So….hire just anybody, just to say we have a coach in place?? I’m very confident Bob has the positions filled with quality coaches who can’t leave their current positions until after NSD.
Who wants to hire “just anybody”? I don’t recall ANYONE suggesting that.
Why after signing day? If you have quality guys to take the position, why wouldn’t you get them on staff ASAP where they can help recruit immediately like Lincoln Riley? They’ll be breaking their current contracts to come here regardless, so why not snag’em now? That defies logic.
Let’s face it, Bob and the people he’s hired are just making one blunder after another. Whether it’s the decision to send a new QB on the road at TTU to try to throw the ball against a team that cannot stop the run, or punting a 2nd time to tyreek hill when you had them on the 24, or having CT throw and not running the ball with Ford at the end of the game, or ever hiring the likes of Tim Kish, Bruce Little, James Patton, Willie Martinez et al, or replacing Blake Bell as the starting QB after 1 good game vs many bad games from TK…I could go on, but a pattern of bad decisions is clear. When the university president has to call you inito his office twice, once for a day long ass-chewing, it’s clear that you are performing poorly at your job.
I’m hoping (probably unrealistically) that we can recruit talent that will contribute right away and be good enough to overcome our coaching shortcomings. However, if the defensive staff doesn’t radically change, I will not be surprised if 2015 is Bob’s last year at OU. He will not survive another 8-5 or 7-6 season with embarrassing losses to Baylor & oSu again. He needs to pull a defense out of his hindparts nect year or it’ll be time to mail out the résumé en masse.
RIley is the de facto wr coach selling the position to recruits and our db roster is filled without BJWs replacement..if there are any other coaching changes then they are nothing more than rumors and high hopes by some fans
The expectation is still what TFB said a little while ago, after NSD. But things are so quiet it could really come at any time and I wouldn’t be surprised.
I could understand some other positions, but for the life of me I can’t figure out how waiting for NSD helps for the WR coach. Jordan, any thoughts about that?
No JB. Bob will not EVER hire a DB or WR coach!! Geez!
Easy now. I’m pretty confident he was being sarcastic.
OU always seems to get too focused on out-of-state guys and miss guys right under their nose. This could be one of those guys.
Not offering Patterson will probably bite us in the ass. I am sooooooooo sick of Bob’s staff missing out on in-state talent and focusing so much on overrated Texas talent that I could scream.
They did offer but before he took it..they filled the spot
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Lawton coaches don’t offer much to Bob and his staff in the future, considering how both Barnett and Patterson had their offers pulled in the same year.
barnett had light yrs to commit and didn’t ………not sure what the deal is with patterson
Looking at it rationally they might be mad about Patterson but cant really blame the Bob on Barnett. He slow played OU and eventually got recruited over. If had had committed earlier on he’d have been a Sooner.
Hopefully OU coaches send the house to Nashville this week (for both Josh Smith and Van Jefferson).
Also, it still stings that we lost Laquon Treadwell to Ole Miss a couple years ago. I’ll feel the same if Jefferson heads to Oxford.
Don’t think his dad would let him be “bought”.
Also, major props to TFB for having an ACTUAL quote from Van Jefferson and for putting it out tastefully. Shows real class and respect for the recruiting process and for the recruit.
Y’all are awesome!
So wrong.
https://twitter.com/UT_CoachNorvell/status/559425603477053441
GROSS!
……..yeah, he’s got a big smile
Looks like he is doing his at gun point.
Stupid whorns. Someone said “Welcome to the right side of the Red River”….last I checked, that sucker was running East and West.
To the Sun we are on the right side..to the Moon they are…I need the Sun more than the Moon
I think my breakfast may make a reappearance…
Haha. Didn’t shamans used to cut hands off for offensive gestures like that?
ok thats just bull
Do what I takes to make that $$$$$ Jay, but it will never feel right.
Another Jefferson update added above.
So is that good or bad for us? haha
doesn’t look good
24 hours, or by tomorrow evening we will know.
Does Van need to discuss things or show them the money?
https://twitter.com/DaishonNeal90/status/559429872401915904
We have any shot here?
Definitely.
Darrion Daniels decision said to be Tuesday
Have heard very little in the way of that one.
247 has him 60% baylor-40% tech.
Old predictions
50/50
If Daishon makes his decision this week, I’m assuming it will be between OU and Nebraska.
How do you get it wrong about whether a guy committed or not? I think it’s more likely he did commit and is back tracking, than someone is just flat wrong about him committing….obviously just my opinion…
Probably a silent commit that accidentally leaked out.
lol…we typed that at the same time I see.
That’s my thought. Only really two sources for such information: (1) Ole Miss or (2) the player and his “camp.” It does nothing for Ole Miss to make up that the kid committed. So, likely that someone in the kid’s entourage leaked the information. Only other option is that the person reporting the news made it up out of the blue…
Im thinking maybe he silently committed. It got out and then whoever leaked it had to backtrack. The fact that he’ll be announcing so soon after his Miss visit doesnt sound good to me.
Those kind of pay sites jump the gun all the damn time fighting to be first. They get around to accuracy around Tuesday.
We obviously can’t be totally sure but after chatting with Van, we still like where OU stands.
Despite the report of a commitment and the timing of his annoucement, you believe OU is still the favorite or at least a coin flip?
I do, yes. That’s the impression I got after talking to him. I think the timing of the decision has more to do with his frustration with the process…rumors, fans attacking him, etc. I could be wrong and it won’t be the first time, but I still feel good.
Wow. Thanks for getting the info right from THE source! Much appreciated.
Thanks for all your work K. So many people don’t get the fact that these are 17-18 year old young men probably making the biggest decision in their life to date. And unlike most of us, they are doing so with a lot of people looking on and trying to influence the decision. If things get a little confused at times, that is to be expected. And it doesn’t help that some of the people looking on are making money off the process or seem to have their entire self worth invested in whether or not the kid picks their school.
Very true, Bob. It’s troubling when ‘adults’ become so emotionally invested in a decision by a 17 yr old, especially taking to twitter to rip the kid. Youngest just turned 19 and watching her and her friends come to ANY kind of decision is fascinating and humorous and painful to watch. And sometimes, for us, it’s hard to understand someone NOT wanting to be a Sooner, but it’s not ours to decide.
Let’s suppose that Van commits to Ole Miss. Can we safely assume that means his dad isn’t considering or being considered for the WR job?
We’re quite certain OU was interested in his dad. We don’t know how interested his dad is in leaving the nfl. I do believe vans interest in OU is independent of his father.
Some of you need to ask Alice about that rabbit hole you’re so bent on going into.
^^^Too cool for all this….
….yet still posting
Nope, I want what you want. I’m okay if I don’t get it. People are out there battling cancer. Let’s put as much energy toward curing that.
Interesting position…you post on an OU football recruiting message board/forum that people should not care too much about it and that we should be focused on curing cancer…hahaha
WHAT???!?
Yeah, that really doesn’t have a place here. As LandThieves would say, “Stay on topic”
I think you declared another rabbit hole.
Paranoia called, and wants to be asked permission before it’s utilized on this site…
Neurosis always comes with paranoia.
Ohio State just picked up a 5* offensive linemen, does this hurt their chances any with Wariboko?
EDIT: Didn’t see it was a 2017 guy. Sorry.
Are you referring to the 2017 OT? If so…no
Yeah, I updated my original post.
sorry dude, didnt see your update
Buckeyes picked up a big commitment today from impressive 2017 in-state OL Josh Myers, probably not if you mean this guy.
I feel a BOOM coming soon!
I think it’s safe to say OU and the fans need van to commit to OU. If we miss today I think it’s going to be an ugly trend of bad news that will continuing breaking over the next week.
Your Jinxing NSD!
Van is a pretty new guy on our board, what does he have to do with the other guys?
Well just a week ago he was considered a lock to ou. Sounding like most don’t feel good about smith or McGinnis. We already got the news about Overton not likely to sign until he’s able to qualify. Wariboko sounds like he’s loving ucla this weekend. To me it’s setting up to possibly be an ugly finish. I hope I’m wrong
You aren’t alone. Everyone talks about a surprise big finish but the momentum doesn’t seem to back this up. It will be interesting who is added on NSD and who isn’t.
Again, who ever said he was a lock to OU? I read this and about every other board. This is the first I’ve ever heard him called a “lock”.
By lock I’m saying everyone was picking him to ou when he decommitted from Georgia
The only reason I disagree is that even without him, I think we can be fine at WR next season. I’d like to have him, but it’s not like he is a stud QB or LB.
we could use a couple stud QBs that also play LB
and Left tackle!
I think it’s more about the momentum and hype he would bring to the program not just the WR position.
The momentum arrow is pointing down especially if a guy who a week ago was considered a lock ends up somewhere else
What are you basing him as a “lock” on? ,A week ago he was committed to GA, wasn’t he.
Right.
As soon as he decomitted basically everyone covering OU recruiting felt ou would get his commitment.
I seriously doubt Jefferson committing helps or hurts OU recruiting the rest of the year. He just hasn’t been an option long enough to have that kind of impact. He “could” help with the Vandy LB, I suppose. But the other guys? No effect, IMO.
….zack, you ain’t gonna’ make it sane thru nsd and coaching changes, or not……lol
Steady, man..pull yourself together. We’re going to need you down the stretch. LoL
Ole Mi$$. Enough said.
Huh?
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Van Jefferson to Ole Mi$$ rumors is what I meant to say. No one outbid$ the $EC.
I live in $EC country. It’s maniacal during football $ea$on and recruiting i$ no different. It’s dirty to $ay the lea$t.
https://twitter.com/Kahlilhaughton/status/559451883585040384
SOONER MAGIC!!!! Where are you!!!!!!?
you rang?
It got kished.
Another lost recruit
No, that is not true.
The fact Jefferson didn’t commit on the spot is something to read into; OU still seems in it. Kid could,have said something like “I could see myself here” and a coach or who,ever took that as a form of commitment.
Looks like our normally strong close to recruiting isnt going to happen this year. Losing a LB to OSU and pitt, with this few of LB on our roster, is just mind boggling.
uggh..
Change is coming.
Too early to tell if thats for better or worse yet.
Too early to tell anything, I’m saying change is coming, that is for sure.
So far OU has also been able to hold onto the commits they have. I cant remeber the last time OU had this many seemingly locked in at this point of the process. That might be a situation that replaces the usual mad scramble at the end.
We’ve lost a number of commits this year.
Can’t never lose what you ain’t never had.
What we have, will be on the field.
Still 6-7 commits short though, thats an issue. We’ve stalled.
http://olehottytoddy.com/2015/01/25/ole-miss-recruiting-four-star-wr-van-jefferson-committed-ole-miss/ atleast they admit they were wrong on the commitment
Roger that.
quick thought on the LB recruiting.. So obviously everyone hear would’ve loved jefferson, wheeler, etc.. but Dominique, jordan evans and striker are all returning with Obo and Bond backing them up. Plus tay evans and curtis bolton from last years class. Plus i’ve always thought Hatari would be a decent linebacker so as long as we bring in a few great LB’s next year, I think we should be fine
I wasn’t impressed with that group too much. Bond was a little slow to be playing on the outside, felt he should of been moved inside. I do like the idea of Hatari moving LB, he’s plenty physical.
The other guy i thought of who could switch like hatari was Cortez Johnson at LB. I know the coaches don’t really like his attitude but the guy is a solid athlete and should get some PT
He’s always confused me. Friends that know him say he’s happy where he’s at but he has the potential to do so much more. Hope he decides to compete for Jordan Thomas’ position.
Guys, what’s the fascination with moving safeties to LB. We need size In 3-4…why create more undersized LBs? Also, Cortez Johnson is CB…so…no they aren’t moving him to ILB
Why not just recruit LB’s in the first place so we wouldn’t have to consider moving a safeties to LB. Also, Jordan Lewis was a safety that moved to LB so it’s been done before.
What we have. What we have is much more important than recruits we want. Great point.
DeBerry as well.
I think we’ll be “fine” at LB in 2015. But there will need to be some impact LB’s signed in the 2016 class.
Sounds like with Kelly and another 2016 LB being mentioned as OU leans, this might be part of the thought process by the staff. There are better propects next year, even if they end up taking a juco guy, too, rather than throwing offers at guys this cycle that aren’t going to make the impact we need.
Rashaun smith, kelly and ferns all have OU pretty high
Smith is the kid from Baltimore area, right? And Kelly is one of the top LBs in Cali if not the country. Could see OU signing 4 LBs next cycle easily.
At least if the quality is available. Save some of the panic for next year.
Not to worry, MoJo…panic is never in short supply on these boards. LoL. Myself, at times, included.
Yeah, I pull at my hair on occasion. Just not always.
Bob can’t afford to wait for 2016. His future is now.
Meh, doubt it, unless he completely tanks. which is possible with at Tennessee, saxet will be better, at ksu, at Baylor, and then tcu and at osu. Those could all be close. If you half them, it’s 9-3 before a bowl. Guess Bob should just call it in now.
We’d better bring in more than 4
1. We did not field quality LBs this year, so we are going to be forced to play them again.
2. Running a 3-4, we will feel the hit from bad LB recruiting in 2016-17….a lot like we were feeling the pinch at OL (particularly OT) due to the Kittles era.
3. We have no LB depth.
LB situation will only be fine this year…assuming our current players get better and we have no injuries
The reason we can’t sign any Lbs is because they all heard mike wants to go to a 3-8
I thought he already did that in 2012….
1.) Shannon and experience will help. Possible scheme/coaching could help as well.
2.) Depends on who we recruit next year and also any late comers this.
3.) Agree, but we are better off than we were this year.
experience doesn’t add 25+ lbs to all of our LBs
Shouldn’t need the extra weight. Tackling method might need tweaking, but they’re heavy enough to make a tackle. In the current scheme, you get heavy guys in there and they won’t be able to cover. It’s always something.
Incorrect statement. Prototypical OLB in 3-4 is 250-260. Big, althletic pash rushers. ILB need to be run stoppers first and foremost. Weight and size are necessary. That’s why NFL 3-4 backers are huge.
NFL proto. Not in college. This is college ball.
Ever watched Bama play?
Oh the Bama standard? I have.
This is over. You’re arguing with me and you don’t know what you’re talking about. Another Uninformed poster. Enough trolling.
Copy that. You go ahead and keep informing, and dialogue will abound.
I’ve watched them get torched and constantly outflanked by good offensive teams.
Examples??? Bama had secondary issues…but I have no idea what games you watched. Maybe the Sugar Bowl against Ohio State…but constantly?
See any runs to the outside in that game? That’s straight up on the LBs.
not a lot. Busted some big runs up the middle though. But you said “constantly”
OK often.
What games?
They lost two games this year. Ole Miss beat them passing the ball. So, that leaves one gMe.
Often?
This is over.
Should never have started. This is the only forum I’ve ever seen with OU fans thinking we need smaller LBs. You guys are definitely in the minority with that view…don’t think the OU couches or the players themselves would agree with you…
Don’t know your definition of “smaller LBs”. I stand quotable in the 225-230 range as being fine.
I’ll stand with you and add coach wig may be correct and would have had every one here agree had he said we need big FAST linebackers. But, methinks their as rare as giant athletic L tackle and or a franchise quarterback.
You mean Jonathan Ogdens don’t grow on trees?
At OU, it appears to be difficult to find. Solution: convert more safeties to LB…that seems to be working.
Got your resume’ ready. Might be an opening at OU for a LB coach soon.
Yeah, this started with coaching decisions by posters. Thats the issue.
Do not submit yours…
Not me. You seem to be the one with all the answers. Think the OU ‘couches’ have spoken as to what they want in a LB.
You don’t understand the differences in defensive schemes and the need for different personnel compared to the types of guys we have been recruiting in the past. That’s fine. I know they are looking for bigger, longer athletes at LB to fit the scheme. I recognize that…that’s why OU is in a tough spot trying to run a true 3-4 when they start a guy at 6′ 215-220lbs. If that means I have all the answers…so be it.
Jhwig over Kish as OU’s lb coach ? Sold! How quickly can we make this happen?
I’ll back all the way up to this, “big runs up the middle though”. That’s on the LBs!!!!!!!
One game. Point made.
X-act-lee. Playing full on spreads in the B12, not sec. Never gonna see that at OU or any B12 school. That’s why it ain’t a bad thing to take a guy who was a safety in hs who has outgrown the position and put him on the field at OU at 225-230. Would like to see 1 LB at 240-245 with enough coverage skill to take away the middle of the field.
I know though: New England Patriots have a sweet group of prototypes, for example.
This ain’t NFL, and if a LB is 225-230 he should be able to bring down anybody other than an offensive lineman and they ain’t going far anyway. Don’t have any idea where you’re coming up with the 250-260 for college LBs.
Recall talking heads saying how the ‘Bama LBs looked fat and slow in coverage. Will be interesting as Tide just canned their LB coach to see how they begin adapting to using LBs in coverage. Sign of the times.
Steele got hired as LSU defensive coordinator…took a better job…didn’t get “canned”
Poor choice of words. Will be interesting after 1 year as ILB coach at ‘Bama after getting ‘canned’ at Clemson. Will see how that works out.
30 years of experience and was DC at two schools prior to being hired at LSU. Not a young inexperienced guy…
I am looking forward to seeing LSU’s defense with Kevin Steele at the helm.
Chavis goes to A&M and goes after Dwaine Thomas immediately. 6′ 200-210. LSU fans were upset that he always had ‘small LBs’ in his scheme and wasn’t offering McGinnis while at LSU. Now ‘Bama in transition at LB position.
Good heads up observation there. Sumlin got his guy.
EA Sports. It’s in the game.
Just occurred to me that you’re talking a 5-2, not a 3-4. Those OLBs are called defensive ends.
Not sure if you’re trying to be cute or what…but the prototypical OLB in a 3-4 is big. Example: clay Mathews for Green Bay. He’s between 250-260 lbs.
I’d take Clay Mathews. Does he have any eligibility left?
No but Deberry will have 4 years. That guy should end up at a playing weight of 250 lbs. DeBerry shows that OU is looking for longer, bigger athletes at LB….particularly OLB. DAY 1…Deberry will be one of the biggest LB on campus.
Do we play Green Bay this year? Oh, they are in a different division.
Clever. Thanks for adding something to the discussion.
And yet Mike Stoops version 2.0 recruits a whole bunch of DBs and expects them to play LB half the time…and does NOT attack very often from the 3-4 like it was designed for…
Didn’t I just tell you to quit making sense? You need to stop that and immediately pump sunshine. Get used to the following phrases: “Everything’s fine”, ” Nothing to see here, no problems exist”, “Stoops is an infallible coaching god and knows everything…”
Work on it.
If you’re going by roster weight, don’t. Bolton is listed at 210 and he’s closer to 225 right now and could be 230 by spring practice. Most are heavier than listed.
Thanks Steve.
Very true. Dom thrown in as a frosh is pushing 230, as is JEvans. Tay is supposed to be talented. Getting Shannon and Stiker coming back for SR season is huge. Bond played well at times and has a year of exp. Everyone was excited to get Bolton. A lot of talent next season.
Whoa, Nellie! Quit making sense!
Good point there, Remember just a few years ago we felt the same way about our DL? I even think how thin our defensive line was played a part in going to the 3-4. Now just a few years later when you look at whats coming in this years class our DL is a strength
The year before that we had no TE’s.
It’s always something, ain’t it?
Cade Parker LB from Norman will also be a R/S freshman next season.
Question for the human resource types; who do we fire if Jefferson goes with ole miss?
That right there is one damn good question!! LOL
Jay Norvell?
Thats right.
Well then good.
Is this a serious question??
Absolutely not.
Okay then, Coach Tiff.
Fire Lincoln Riley!!!
Have to believe the coaches have this. Monty and Gundy tweeting that ‘next week’ and ‘B**M’….there are some good things about to happen. Not going to get them all but feel pretty good about Neal and maybe Daniels. Think if OU gets McGinnis on campus next weekend Monty will seal him up. Good class already, no matter the finish but with a couple of additions, this could be a great class.
All this class needs is a little nudge to be top ten.
Just a little. Not much. And the situation is primed for that little nudge, as far as I can see.
I wish Norvell luck (well not really at Tejas I don’t), but I also found this comment a little humorous…
“The things you see and everyone talks about with him is that he’s a great teacher, very detailed and organized, and HE REALLY DEVELOPS HIS PLAYERS.” – Charlie Strong
That last part though..
That was for you, and you, and you, and you, and you.
smiley face
Mike Farrell @rivalsmike
A few things seem somewhat clear to me after weekend. Cowart is #WDE, Jefferson is #HottyToddy, Mack is #Longhorns — we shall see.
4:05 PM – 25 Jan 2015
What a roller coaster. Looking forward to it being over, for Jefferson, and for us.
Could be talking about a prospect named Cece Jefferson that I think is interested in ole miss.
Malik Jefferson?
George?
Thomas?
Weezy?
Lil v. Big? Young v. Old?
whichever has the least talent. that seems to be what some people think we sign. people seem to be slitting their internet wrists over the whims of kids. who we get is who we get. follow recruiting if you can handle it. if you can’t handle it, don’t. seems fairly simple. you follow it and seem normal
I am convinced that recruiting is the most arduous, awkward, and painful part of being a college football coach. Every facet is hard, but recruiting separates coaches into categories, whatever those categories are: great v. good, nine wins v. four wins. I appreciate what OU has done. We have more guys in the NFL than any other Big 12 team as of 2010, by a large margin. Props for keeping it real boomer.
Haha
Thomas
aha.
I hope our linebackers on the roster are paying attention. You all have been called out. Make a play son.
IF I exercised as hard as they did/do. Winter workouts.
Secondary was more of a liability than LBs last year.
But LB recruiting has eveyone up in arms and hoping for these high school seniors to come take their jobs. Just saying.
If Van Jefferson commits to OU tonight…this thread will probably be pushed passed the 2,000 comments mark…
Yeah, and if he doesn’t, it will probably hit 3,000. Lol
LOL!
Think how much of an Impact Van Jefferson could make in a Spread Offense and Baker Mayfield at the helm.
Sick of the “chosen few” or should I say chosen fools who post threads on here trying to deny distract, dissuade “true sooners” from coming to this board to point out the many problems this Stoops program has not or will not address. Sick of the excuses about injuries…Being a favorite, being and underdog, playing an away game with a tough crowd waaaaa…Mommy give me ba ba….To the sunshine pumpers or those few Sooners who are on the fence I give you this…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiqVzUlXuMY Just watch the pre-game and then watch the game to see how a great coach decided that playing on the road w’o your top 2 players is insignificant to whether you win or lose.Also, I’d rather see a coach poo-poo his team during the week or before the season than the eternal sunshine blowing from stoops year in year out only to see his teams lose big games or lose to teams he shouldn’t be losing to. I see Stoops like to bring up players he did not have after a loss…Also idiotic responses will just mitigate more threads posted like this one until we have had this “true sooner” heart to heart. Thank You for reading & watching…BOOMER!
You need to be shown the door.
Anytime U want to come where I live to show “me the the door” U are welcome too…Though you will have Long drive to Cali…..
ok wait….you don’t know where your own door is?
He doesn’t even know where he lives. One day it’s Houston, then it’s Cali…Someday his mom will let him out of the basement.
Let’s just move on from this, cool?
…again.
There is a room for people who call out ‘fools’. This board isn’t one of those rooms.
Easton dude I have been called worse on here dude…Do you want me to post the last post from last night that were directed at me??? Please talk to me face to face or don’t talk to me at all….
Alright. I’ll honor that request.
This guy…he takes himself pretty serious…
Livin’ ain’t easy.
Dyin’ ain’t much of a livin’, Boy.
I had to come back.
I know…I know….
“You a bounty hunter, [bro]?”
Amen, brother. I ran out of all my sunshine after the Baylor humiliation. I can’t gloss over the myriad number of problems with this program and its staff. I can’t say “trust in Bob” when Bob has been quite a disappointment in recent years. If I did, it would be a disservice to the standard of excellence set by the alma mater and football program I love. I will never apologize for having high standards.
JB It is an “Honor” to meet a true Sooner who cares deeply about the direction of this program…Kudos to you sir….
Hey JB the ignorant bums who called me all sorts of names last night are at again…Sad & pathetic..
Watching this game right now is so enjoyable watching 2 well coached teams go at it and both of them play their hearts out and the team that loses atleast they don’t look, lost, clueless and or giving up. They just found out they were not worthy of their ranking is all…No harm in that except a few bruised egos…LOL
Love watching this game…A Motivational master just destroyed a great team in their “Own House” The Coliseum…..There is a difference between “better than most” and this…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUebmJjDuu8
There have been a lot of aggressive comments today. I feel like I missed something?
You forgot to pay your toll to cross the bridge…
What is your favorite color?
Depends
What is the air speed of an unladen swallow?
Listen, in order to maintain air-speed velocity,
a swallow needs to beat its wings 43 times
every second, right?
South African or European?
“Oh, yeah, an African swallow maybe,
but not a European
swallow, that’s my point.”
“But then of course African swallows are not migratory.”
My brother is a much bigger goat than I good sir. Please eat him.
Who did what to whom, now?
Well you got Castor Troy beneath this post
CastrolBoyToy isn’t aggressive, he is just self-adoring.
You have a point there.
Okay, everybody just settle down. Besides, my dad can totally kick your dad’s a$$.
There’s a lot of people on edge right now and others who think those are overreacting. There’s probably some validity to both. So let’s all just take a breath.
I thought you banned Castor “Bloodred” Troy?
The trolls are really starting to migrate here
Parasites always seek out a healthy host.
Well if the host is serving cheese count me in!
Okay, there seems to be plenty of whine available.
Boom!!!
Is he actually back (I’m on my phone) or are you just making reference to someone acting similarily?
If it’s not him, it’s his twin brother.
Again, sorry, I’m on my phone. Give me a name and I’ll check
BloodRed
i got people that know people that owe other people money who say its his cousin. one is in houston and the other is in california or cali, colombia. both have a tremendously yappy bark. bite is yet to be determined 🙂
I believe the Sooners will have a tight right ship in 2015 the defense will be amazing with defensive freshman of the year Mbanasor, offense will have their groove back with a confusingly balanced attack. And OU will win it all with a 1 loss or undefeated season.
re: Jefferson – Far as I know TFB is the only place that actually has anything directly from the kid himself, and you all obviously know that K has said regarding that conversation. So I’d probably put that ahead of “sources” or “I think…” type of stuff, but that’s just me.
Jordan I have my sources also who told me that Jefferson indeed shot the sheriff but could not confirm if he did or didn’t shoot the deputy.
He did not shoot the Deputy, did not.
Although he is a “person of interest.”
We have reason to believe.
But he swears it was in self defense.
I think you’re right.
my source agrees
Twitter and the 24/7 recruiting coverage has really become detrimental in recruiting, IMO.
For example, Jefferson visits OU. Twitter & recuiting sites blow up about him possibly committing to OU. He visits Ole Miss the next weekend, and now he’s getting blowback for having “a great visit” in Oxford. It’s one of the biggest decisions he’ll ever make and he’s only 18. Lots of pressure on his shoulders.
If I was a highly touted recruit, I’d make my social media private and rarely give interviews. Much like Kendall Sheffield this year, I’d keep things close to the vest and not want all the attention.
I’d just be trying to get out of high school, and to my dorm room, alive.
Recruiting was a lot easier to tolerate before social media, that’s all I know.
You ain’t never lied.
A Sooner fan tweeted at Dwaine Thomas after he committed to TAMU: “enjoy your average program then, big boy. #zeroNCs #withorwithoutU #SOONERS”
Thomas tweeted back “don’t be salty”
Pretty sad watching grown adults ridicule recruits on social media.
Grown has nothing to do with maturity. 🙂
Its just day to day with me.
and on here. meltdown is too nice of a way to put it. but supposedly they know everything and think they can coach the team up right and we’re just “sunshine pumping, head in the sand golly gee willickers”
That fuels something that I don’t like. Thats the aspect of social media that is such a wild card: people outside of the program buildings, paid staff, have the freedom to reach out and communicate quasi-directly with kids.
If that was even a sooner fan. The anominity of social media allows people to pose as whomever
Yes they do and on websites, too.
/noam sayin
I think it depends on the recruits. Some handle it better than others, and some have better counsel in their decision making process.
But I see your point, as a person who values his privacy.
Many of these kids love the attention they’re getting from fans. It’s likely the most attention they’ll be getting during their college careers.
Anybody can sabotage a team in recruiting and some do it well. I don’t have twitter and I rarely get on facebook because of the stupid people on it. I hope Jefferson comes to OU but it won’t be the end of the workd either. Different strokes for different folks.
MFW a recruit pick another school over OU
Je ne comprend pas.
I don’t get it either.
E-learning. Good.
Is recruiting therapist as real job yet? If not, I’ll definitely pioneer the field.
you’re a funny dude
And that my friends is how you defeat a team on the road. You stay patient, keep identifying their weakness and when you see an opening you go for the big play but first you EXECUTE then you will rejoice! What a game!
Is disqus messing up? This comment doesn’t seem to have any context to anything?
Oh Perry….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiqVzUlXuMY. This is how I’d like My Sooners to play! Just one year of this and I’d never complain that whole year….
One thing about, Ohhhh Perry is, he never ever worries about something he has no control over. I’ll be very interested how the team plays next year with the recruits we’re waiting somewhat impatiently to acquire.
January 26th? GET OUT OF THE FUTURE!
Yeah that is funny.
Maybe thats the day we get a “Boom”
btw did you know that Boulware drives a Delorean?
That makes too much sense.
Wariboko doing an in-home with Stoops this week.
I’ve always thought the longer it dragged out, the better our chances. He’s a great in-state prospect at a position of need
i really hope we get van jefferson and i still believe we have a chance with kyler murray if adrian peterson can leave the loan star state I’m sure he can to.
Jefferson to Ole Miss.. Damn.. Via Twitter..
Not a huge shock.
‘ol damn bagmen got us again
Can’t say we didn’t try.
It’s official…Jefferson tweeted that he has committed to Ole Miss…unbelievable
Wish I knew what Ole Miss is using to snag elite talent. I don’t want to believe its under the table cash incentives.
Freeze says it’s all hard work. I don’t buy that for a second.
You can be honest with a recruit or you can tell them a lie, sometimes the lie sounds better. Then there are times when a girlfriend gets involved, who the hell knows how these things really go down.
Ya know, have to wonder about the whole thing. Why couldn’t the kid just be honest and admit he had committed to UM when K asked him point blank.
Just heard van. To miss. On twitter
https://twitter.com/Vj2kAllDay/status/559540819049193472
I think not!
??
Coincidence? You tell me.
https://i.imgur.com/H6WcYnt.gif
Haha, yes!
Good.
Wonder if they will now have a scholarship for Darryl
We will have scholarships for some JUCO’s next year.
Daishon Neal just tweeted that he will NOT be attending OU…
*grabs popcorn*
haha
Really. Well, Nebraska keeps their guy.
Double whammy
Oh great…Jefferson deal is another dream gone bad
No Jefferson, no Neal…very likely no Josh Smith…holy crap we just drove the bus off of the cliff and there are no survivors…Sunday Bloody Sunday…
It’s like they got together and were like Lets both commit to other schools at the same time.
*put’s on fire suit and grabs hose*
“The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.” Breaking.
Wow….when will we catch a break!
For everybody involved.
The coaches still seem pretty positive … sure hope they know something!
Unbelievable
Hard to get a stud WR like Jefferson without a WR coach.
Just sayin’…
I think we can rule out his dad now.
We are now in a flat spin…
Push on it to gain air speed and the rudder and control will come back to you and you can pull out.
Fire Bob Fire Mike Fire Gundy Fire Bedenbaugh Fire Kish……wait Fire Kish twice Fire Boulware Fire Boren Fire Monty ( ok keep Monty maybe )
Glad you spent some time thinking this through …
me too
Burn it down…down to the ground!
yeah! thats what Im saying
I feed bad for guys like K.. & other recruitniks.. These kids use you guys.. You think you have relationships with them.. But you really don’t.. They just use you to garner attention.. But that’s what recruiting has become the last 10 years… We used to not know anything about them until the day after signing day newspaper articles..
What makes you think those kids, especially Jefferson, used anybody? I’m willing to bet OU lead a few days ago. But a few days ago, Jefferson hadn’t been to Ole Miss yet (I don’t think). A first time visit can change things.
He obviously told the Ole Miss people he was committing.. That’s why all that broke this afternoon… But when K asked he said No.. That happens all the time..
I will no longer believe any of the “positive” sounding reports on this site. You would have believed OU was getting both Jefferson and Neal. It is obvious there is a lot more wishful thinking here than there is any insight.
You mad, bro?
Disappointed
bye
k sorry but thats the most idiotic remark Ive seen in days. The guys that run this site to an AMAZING job of getting inside info here. They can just tell us what their sources tell them. To say something like its “wishful thinking ” is just ridiculous. You dont deserve TFB…..go to landsharks
Yep, b/c this site was the only one stating as such. S#$% changes, these are teenagers you’re dealing with. But, sure, do whatever you need to do.
Jordan – I apologize and surely want you to know how much I appreciate the site and all you do. I live in MO and check this multiple times daily as a long-time and rabid Sooner fan. Was just very disappointed last night reading updates from phone – but understand no one would ever intentionally mislead of course. 18-year olds … ugh. Thank you.
I totally understand. Believe me, we’re all frustrated.
Pretty sad having to up-vote your own comments
My bad. I was reading / typing from cell phone instead of computer and have very fat fingers. Didn’t mean to do this – was trying to see who else up voted which I thought you could see by pressing up arrow
Gee, a couple weeks ago OU wasn’t in the conversation for either one of these guys and now the reaction is we’ll never field a competitive team again. Chill out. We’re Oklahoma, we’ll be fine.
whiff—–O for Two
Saw this day going much different than it did. So the question now is where do we go from here?
Onward and upward!
Yup! We’re reloading. Maybe not with the guys we thought, but the Sooners are definitely reloading. Wait for it!
I go to bed every night….and we still put a team on the field every year.
Every night? No more all-nighters? Guess you definitely are getting old!
Can’t even remember the last all- nighter I pulled…haha.
Me either unfortunately. I’m having trouble remembering yesterday.
BUST 405.
Not really all that mad, though. More excited on what we have right now, especially on the Dline.
I’m just going to say to the guys that run this site Thank you. Thank you so much for the unbelievable job that you don’t get paid to do or have to do. I love your site.
Sigh….
https://twitter.com/rivalsmike/status/559542824345948161
Things certainly are changing.
I guess, not like nay other program hasn’t been kicked in the nuts before.
Well now is anyone worried about the negative momentum? I don’t feel good about any of the top recruits left so if we still take 26-28 guys I expect 5 of them to be guys I haven’t heard any real mention of for the last 6 months
To be fair, I intially shared the same sentiment. I don’t even want to fill the 26-28 spots if it just means getting guys to get guys. Save those spots for 2016 guys.
I think saving those Achilles would be smart.
Supposed to say scholarships
Haha that was a head scratcher for a second.
“Well now is anyone worried about the negative momentum?”
YES.
If we sign the guys already committed, that’s not a bad group. Everyone from here to signing day is gravy.
I love gravy.
All self respecting man are required to like gravy. He who does not like gravy shall henceforth have his man card revoked and be required to wear a pink bow in his hair.
Ray, the gravy is what makes it special!
Gravy with lumps in it is still gravy. 🙂
The tators is what’s got them lumps,
well, not my wife’s first attempt on making me gravy…it was more like spackle. It hurt going to the john the next day….like trying to pass dried concrete. I didn’t want to hurt her feeling and ate about a quart of that stuff.
LOL!. I’m lucky to have a wife that can make a good meal out of anything, and her gravy is fantastic.
Well, she doesn’t try to make gravy anymore. But dang if she can’t make me some good pies…apple, cherry, pecan…..looooodeeeee…good eaten’…….but sometimes….when she isn’t around to hear me….I whimper a little……wishin’ she could make some good ol’ biscuits and gravy.
I love gravy and I love biscuits, but I have never liked them together.
I like good soppin’ syrup for my biscuits.
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F31FuAEAv7AL.jpg&f=1
I am going to pretend I did not read your post……Biscuits and gravy but not together…pffftttttt
No, not together.
YUCK!
My wife doesn’t eat sweets, sounds like we need to work a trade. I’ll send you some B&G’s for a good ol’ apple pie.
Meh…..I bet they pull off a couple of surprises on signing day just like last year.
Hopefully 2-3 new coaches………..Hit the road running 2016 class big big
Some kids need to be close to family for support.
Who knew when the OU coaches were tweeting out #justwaitonit they were speaking of complete and utter disappointment…….
There are other players Feb 5th coming up. We have two WR already.
Maybe they meant justwaitonit, like waiting on it until 2016…
LOL…..beat me to it.
lol
Hope they have some silent good news – but can’t imagine what it is at this point.
Think they knew those 2 announcements would bring mass disappointment. Hope there is some good recruiting news ahead for 2015 to close out this cycle on a high.
Couldn’t agree more
Go get John Houston jr and let’s forget about these two guys.
McGinnis? Smith?
Wariboko, Lampkin … still some names on the board
Lampkin is all UT all the time.. TFB keeps saying OU has a shot.. But everything from him publicly is all horn…
They got horns … we got Monty! Always a chance.
Crap – was thinking we had a shot with him after reading some TFB
I don’t see us getting either of them either.
Why?
Just a hunch
I guess what you are saying is that no one besides DeBerry wants to play LB at OU…
Based upon this recruiting season and having Tim Kish as our LB coach, I’d agree with that…I find it highly unlikely that OU will get any other LBs this year…
Smith has cancelled both visits to Norman.. & at last check is not scheduled for another.. McGinnis is still scheduled to visit next weekend.. If he makes it, then OU has an outside shot..
Me neither
Houston is all USC.
No chance at all for us?
I would be very, very surprised if we did.
OU still has the 9th best class based on 3.58 star average. Still impact players out there. Sooners always flip somebody at the last minute. Remember Monty and C. Gundy are on the job!
Wish Monty would tweet some encouragement!
When Monty goes silent, then there HAS to be a problem…
The 3 star 6’7 end is okay. But not a great loss. Jefferson wanted to stay in the South it appears. Some kids just can’t cut the cord. Mama want tickets etc…Not a big deal.
That would be nice.
This sucks, maybe there needs to be a head coaching change!
This sucks maybe we need a WR coach!
You stop that.
If every coach was fired for not getting all the recruits they wanted….none of them would have a job.
You are trying to use logic in the midst of someone’s rant!
Yep, Saban would be gone because OU got Perine.
What???
Don’t mind that goof, it never celebrates anything good that happens at OU, but revels in misery.
Perspective: We got in late with Jefferson. They other kid is DE who won’t play this year.
When you don’t have a wr coach, other schools are going to use that against you. When you have a lb coach that can’t recruit or develop players other schools don’t need to use that against you it has a tendency to get kids to commit to other schools all on it’s own.
To me Jefferson will be good. But he is no speed burner. We need speed like LR said. I want WRS that force db’s to play 10 yards off…
He’s a top 100 player in the nation. Yes OU could have definately used him. Did you see our receivers last year?
I saw Neal 4.5 and others who could not get separation. No doubt. But the sky isn’t falling.
At least you didn’t defend kish. I couldn’t have taken anything you said seriously after that.
Might be in minority, but wasn’t terribly excited about either of these guys.
Would welcome them but certainly not losing sleep either
Same here.
Meh, got my alarm already set for the a.m.
Pleasant dreams
g-night!
Not gone yet, watching part 1 to Sons of Liberty.
Good 1st part. See I didn’t miss much here. Disappointing for sure but not the end of the world.
It was good and it did not disappoint at all.
Can we go ahead and take the conversation over here: https://thefootballbrainiacs.com/making-sense-of-neal-and-jefferson
We’re pushing 1,700 comments & I think it’s just slowing everything down. There should also be an Open Post up tomorrow morning as well, just fyi. Then we can start things back up again over there.
Thanks!
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Fizzle