Open Post | Weekend, Feb. 5th – 7th (UPDATE Fri., 3:18 pm)

JK Dobbins: If you haven’t seen JK Dobbins’ film, you should. If you’re anything like me, Dobbins will quickly remind you of a bigger Roy Finch. The La Grange (TX) 2017 running back is versatile and can line up in several different positions.

TFB caught up with Dobbins to find out how his recruitment is going overall and, in particular,  with OU. To which Dobbins said he ‘loves OU.’ Dobbins went on to say the plan as of right now is to be in Norman next weekend (Feb. 13th), at which point he expects to be in attendance for the big showdown on the hard-court between the Sooners and Jayhawks.

It’s also probably worth mentioning that Dobbins is close with fellow Class of 2017 prospect Tyrese Robinson, who just recently committed to the Sooners. Which is relevant because Robinson is planning to join Dobbins in Norman next weekend. And Dobbins told TFB that Robinson has already been selling him on the Sooners, so you can reasonably expect the sales pitch to continue while they take in what should be a fantastic basketball game.

And while there may seemingly be any number of positives in OU’s favor at the moment, Dobbins did specify there are no current leaders right now when it comes to his recruitment. Although the sense we got was that may have simply been a little gamesmanship on his part as his affinity for the Sooners is not the most well-kept secrent, and now he has a good friend to working the OU angle as well.

If something were to happen next weekend and Dobbins were to follow Robinson’s lead and commit to Oklahoma, the momentum this staff has already created at the start of this 2017 recruiting cycle will only grow that much more. – (Brandon)

Team Note | Michiah Quick: Evidently the idea of Quick making the move to CB was mentioned on a local radio show the other day. And in spite of the fact it being something that’s been suggested/discussed since even prior to his arrival on campus several years ago now, it got the OU interwebs all a flutter. Desperation of the offseason officially sinking in, I guess.

So we reached out to a source to check and see if anything had changed and were a little surprised to hear that it had. But it comes with a bit of a catch, so make sure you read the whole thing and don’t go running off saying “Well, TFB said he’s switching the corner…”

What we’ve been told is that Quick has been taking some reps in 7-on-7 at both the wide receiver AND defensive back. BUT his primary reps continue to be at WR, with a ‘few reps here and there’ at CB.

Oklahoma is bringing in a couple of freshman corners with the expectation they would help to push the returning players, namely a much improved PJ Mbanasor, so getting Quick some reps at CB could be any number of things. It could be a way to push Mbanasor and Dakota Austin with a starting spot open until the two freshman CBs arrive on campus. Or it could be the feeling out of a possible true position switch. Or it could eventually amount to absolutely nothing.

It’s interesting, yes, if for no other reason than a number of people believed coming in that Quick may have had a higher ceiling as a CB than he did/does as a WR. Regardless, the main take away of this should probably be that the primary reps he’s taking are still on the offensive side of the ball. – (Super K)

CeeDee Lamb: If you hadn’t already seen it, 2017 OU WR commit CeeDee Lamb tweeted out the following Friday afternoon:

Just to be clear, Lamb tells TFB he has NOT decommitted and has no plans of doing so. Lamb says the tweet was simply him saying that it’s a long process, and he will continue to evaluate things throughout said long process. – (Super K)

– UPDATE (Fri., 3:18 pm): From earlier today, or more to the point yesterday when we first told you about 2016 QB Tanner Shafer and the possibility of him accepting a preferred walk-on spot with the Sooners. Evidently Shafer decided not to wait any longer as Brandon has since confirmed Shafer has in fact accepted OU’s offer.

633 Comments

  • Jordan Esco says:

    caught y’all slippin’ w/ the late OP 😉

  • Framoka says:

    I’d be surprised if we have real need at CB

    • Jordan Esco says:

      May not be so much as a need as it is what’s ultimately best for Quick in the long run. But that’s 100% just me speculating.

      • Framoka says:

        Seems like a good Sooner, put him where he can excel..I still like the idea of him returning punts..or anyone returning punts

      • Tinycop says:

        I have really been disappointed in how Quick has done (or not done). Certainly not with him per se, but I just expected him to do so much better than he has so far.

        I just hope he can begin to excel wherever he plays and have a break out couple of seasons.

  • PlayLikeaChampion says:

    Quick is a NFL talent at CB, not sure at WR. Derrick Woods was a NFL talent at SS, not sure at WR before he left.

    I’d beg the coaches to let me redshirt and focus 100% at CB during that redshirt. Spend entire Junior and Senior season at CB. Go to the NFL as high dollar CB.

  • Jason Vos says:

    Bob Stoops mentioned in his press conference that they were still looking at one more Lackawanna prospect. Any idea who that is?

  • Maverick says:

    Doesn’t CeeDee know it makes people on the internet angry when he waivers on a commitment?

    • wolfbuilder says:

      Shouldn’t make people mad, fact is he isn’t committed to 1 school if he is still open, I don’t really care if he has or hasn’t came out and said he is decommitted or not. If ur recruiting process is still open then ur r not committed and should be treated as so, it is his right

    • Slim Sooner says:

      Truth! If his recruiting process is still open and he’s evaluating things, CeeDee is not all that committed, once again proof that kids need to understand the meaning of the word and wait until later in the process to give their verbal.

  • Randy says:

    Love Dobbins film.. Would be a great start to get a commit this early. Not expecting it but would be nice. I wonder if OU has any chance at DE/OLB Josh Kaindoh ?

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Based on what we experienced in 2016, safe to say ANY commitments for 2017 should be taken very lightly at this juncture

  • Framoka says:

    I hope they are holding that last scholly for Maxs Tupai from Utah. He’s visiting UCLA this weekend I think. RBear is super high on him.

  • King says:

    Lets be real about Michiah. He has good hands and other than that gaff in the Orange Bowl I can’t think of any major bad decisions by him as a wideout and he was seemingly the only one who could get open inside of 2 seconds against Texas

    BUT he will be competing against

    Mark Andrews 6’5
    Zach Farrar 6’4
    Dahu Green 6’4
    Jeffrey Mead 6’5
    Dallis Todd 6’5

    And that’s not counting the other half dozen wideouts that are bigger than he is or the players like Mycel Jones. LR likes them big. Quick has the speed and ball skills to be a great DB and I dont think they’d be wasting their time trying him there if it wasn’t a fit.

    • PlayLikeaChampion says:

      Mykel Jones is pure Slot. Ideally, Quick should be a Slot, but he isn’t fluid in his hips to play that role effectively imho.

      • King says:

        He will be used the same way Sterling was. Sterling was a slot guy as a frosh but they still lined him up everywhere.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      OU started recruiting bigger receivers before LR got to OU. And still, to this day, Kelly is the only “big” WR that has done anything. Give me the 5’11 dudes like Shep and Broyles. Even Stills was only 6, maybe 6’1. Until we start finding the big guys that can actually produce, I’m done getting excited about them.

      • King says:

        Andrews didn’t do anything? He caught more passed out of the slot than he did any other position.

        All the other guys I mentioned are soph or younger, and for every tall wideout we get that under produces there is 2 shorter ones that never even see the field

        • SoonerfanTU says:

          So you MIGHT have ONE example, and it’s a guy that is almost a TE that gets flexed out? Any other examples? We’ve had way more big WR’s bust, b/c they all have so far, except Kelly. Every one of them. Name the top 5-7 WR’s at OU under Stoops. All were 6′ or less I believe, with Stills maybe being 6’1.

      • F1at1ined says:

        Wasn’t Justin Brown a bigger outside target? Really liked the one year he put together for us. Wish we had him longer. Bester was also a good size. Felt he was underutilized as a catcher but be blocked well.

      • soonermusic says:

        It does seem like the recent (past several seasons) push for the breakout big guy, the jump ball 6′ 4″” basketball type receiver hasn’t panned out, so far. There’s still a chance, but the anticipation of guys like Mead or Dahu taking over just hasn’t happened. Andrews looks like he’s gonna be important though.

  • ohiosoonerdevildog says:

    Hmm interesting on Quick. As the saying goes, get your best athletes on the field.

    • hOUligan says:

      ….where they are at their best and can help the team and themselves. Would think any competitive kid would rather move and play than be at the back of the line riding the pine. One way or the other, kid seems like to good of an athlete to not see the field somewhere.

  • Doobie74OU says:

    Has it every been floated to have a different designation than just Verbal commitments? Verbal Commitments are nonbinding to either side really. We could have 2 classifications. One would be a Verbal(Soft) Commit that would let the Recruit still look around all they wanted but his offer could be pulled by the School at any time without reason or explanation. Second we could have a Hard Commit were the school and the recruit were locked in and could only back out by mutual agreement. A player that says they are open after a Verbal Commitment just wants a placeholder unless or until he gets a better offer. And a school that would pull an offer from a kid at the last minute because they have a shot at someone better is a sorry excuse for teachers & leaders of young men! JMHO

  • TJ Garrett says:

    quick as DB makes sense…..has anyone seen him try to catch his hand as suspect to be honest.

  • Doobie74OU says:

    Quick has great size for a CB listed at 6’1″ 186lb and he is still smoking fast. May be a great move if he has been recruited over at WR!

    • TJ Garrett says:

      makes the loss of Cobb and mayden easier to deal with….having an athlete like Quick to play DB

  • Matt says:

    I just don’t understand the thought process of committing and then continuing recruiting. A recruit should wait until he’s ready to commit, and then pull the trigger. It does a massive disservice to the school if a recruit commits and the school has to hold hold a spot until the very end, only for the recruit to back out. As a parent, I couldn’t let my kid do that.

  • Clint Lenard says:

    Dobbins = Bush, not Finch. First of all, he didn’t run 50 yards and then run out of bounds… (Finch constandly ran out of gas on big runs) secondly, definitely not as ‘twitchy’ as Roy. Great runner though. Definitely reminds me of Reggie Bush, but not sure if he’s as fast.

  • Mr. Jones says:

    Man I really like Dobbins’ film! Have to feel good about our chances here based on Brandon’s notes.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      Good strength and balance.

    • Doobie74OU says:

      Would be huge to get him committed because he and Robinson can keep each other committed. Gotta get some vocal kids out recruiting other kids to join them at OU early this year. May be the best class under Stoops if it keeps going the way it is right now!

    • Stephen Woods says:

      Me too. Hopefully Robinson can talk him into committing and staying.

  • bjwalker82 says:

    I think we can do better than CD Lamb. He’ll be a solid player no doubt but, it wouldn’t kill to lose him

  • RDC212 says:

    If your process is still open, then you’re not committed. That’s what COMMITTED means. ?

    • Swanny says:

      I don’t think that word means what you think it means in today’s world. Committed means that they’re the front runner and if nothing changes, then they’re in. Until a NLI is signed no one is truly committed.

      • RDC212 says:

        Committed means what it means. The fact that people have tried to distort that doesn’t change it.

        • Swanny says:

          You’re pissing in the wind, and saying that you started pissing before it was windy… when really you should just change direction.

          • RDC212 says:

            The word means what it means. If I’m the staff, I’m telling the kid if his process is still open, so is ours. No hard feelings. Basically, I treat this kid like an OU lean, not a commit.

          • Swanny says:

            Thank God you’re not a part of this staff then. Because every kid is this way. I don’t trust the kid who acts like he’s not. They all take all of their visits. This kids is just being honest about his process.

          • D Hunter Sanchez says:

            Caleb kelly wasn’t.

    • Lane Gilstrap says:

      X 1000

    • hOUligan says:

      Then on the other side, you have Strong telling layers to ‘silent commit’ to the whorns so other teams aren’t coming after them. I wouldn’t mind OU making the decision ‘OU does not accept verbal commits who are still “open”. We believe OUr word is OUr bond at the University of Oklahoma. If you believe that, too, and want to end your recruitment, we want you”.

      • D Hunter Sanchez says:

        Yes. Let’s nip this thing in the bud. Daniels/Cobb bs shouldn’t happen again. I mean, there ought to be a deadline before NSD. There are enrollment deadlines, why not a commitment deadline prior to NSD? NSD would simply become announcement day only for the coaches.

        • Coach JK says:

          That would be great, but the other side of that would be that we couldn’t flip recruits from another school.

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            This. It kills me that we think kids only leave us for other schools. We flip as many or more than the other direction every year. The process sucks. Neither the school or the kid is accountable for anything until NSD so either you accept that this will always happen or just wait until NSD to follow recruiting.

          • D Hunter Sanchez says:

            You work until a player commits. Hence, it’s on the player to say when they’ll commit. You can get them any time before they commit.

      • Stephen Dale says:

        agree with you…….

      • SoonerSpock says:

        Throughout Stoops career his practice has always been that the focus is on the kids. He does not hard recruit them, he does not put ultimatums on them and has openly taken the risk of this approach. I will be surprised if he makes any major changes. I see him continuing to give transfers their full release, allow commits to continue to take visits without pulling their offer, etc.

        I feel it is his belief that the Sooners can more than survive the loss of last minute flips just as he frequently picks up last minute flips like Mark Jackson this year. What comes around goes around and what we think means little to Bob.

        I think an earlier signing date in August-September would minimize these movements but 18 year old kids are always going change their minds as their doubts begin to surface through the recruiting season.

      • jimintexas says:

        So, Strong is telling the recruits to deceive other coaches. Sounds like a bit twisted morality to me.

    • MrBigsby says:

      Commitment: a pledge or promise; obligation: Maybe CeeDee doesn’t know the definition.

      He doesn’t have to “decommit” to no longer be committed, his actions say it loud and clear.

    • Stephen Dale says:

      it means he is ;committed’ to OU until he gets an offer from his dream school late next December—–then he’s gone……….

  • Brien Brown says:

    IMO Lamb probably scared by the other kids we are recruiting at WR look at the list and there is some big names that have interest in playing at OU that he may not want to compete against!

  • Tipman says:

    Not too worried about Lamb – we’re in on a lot of good WRs plus we can sell that Geno, Dede and Jarvis are graduating this year (I’m assuming all will play and 2 will start). The Kyler Murray pitch to Texas WRs will help too.

    • Dick Bump says:

      I expect our passing game to be explosive this year with a lot of different people getting the ball. It should be something good receivers will be excited to play in. Also, the spread is so common in high schools, excellent receiver talent is plentiful. I wouldn’t be surprised if OU doesn’t recruit over him if there’s any doubt.

  • PlayLikeaChampion says:

    These recruits want the spotlight just like Caleb Kelly, which isn’t a bad thing as Caleb Kelly was able to show us given the right demeanor.

    • Jpsooner23 says:

      Kelly did nothing wrong. He never gave verbal to anyone and announced on NSD. Nothing wrong with that at all. Not the same as the guys I believe you are referencing who verbally commit, then waffle.

  • soonerjunky says:

    In 2016, the work Commitment actually means- Leader

  • SamSooner says:

    Dobbins reminds me of DeMarco Murray.

  • soonerjunky says:

    Dobbins is Quentin Griffin 2.0

  • Eddie and Amber says:

    Recruiting has worn me out … ready for some round ball tonight.

  • Eddie and Amber says:

    Recruiting has worn me out … ready for some round ball tonight.

  • Zack says:

    I actually have no preference for quick. Play both sides. Play special teams. Be on the field every snap, idgaf. The bigger issue is the need to move stanvon to offense.

  • Stephen says:

    A little off topic. I heard some nice things about the locker room and Switzer center.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      So you just gonna leave us hanging here or can you share? 🙂

      • Stephen says:

        This is from someone who has seen the rendering, the actual locker room will be almost doubled in size. This was a late night conversation over a few drinks but he memotioned it will still have mostly wooden lockers and will also have an nutrition center built in. I’ll double check but those are the details I immediately remember.

        • Sooner Ray says:

          I would hope there would be an abundance of technology built into the locker / locker room to appeal to the young recruits, lots of builtin hookups and such for their electronic devices.

          • Stephen says:

            I was wondering the same thing. I’ll be sure to ask about that. He said they were really selling the nutrition thing quite a bit.

            Fwiw, he came away very impressed and said it makes the old one look awful.

          • Jake says:

            The nutrition side of it is a HUGE seller, IMO. That’s one of the biggest things these kids undergo in transitioning from a high school body to a college athlete… and for some, the NFL dream.

            Definitely way better than a freakin’ barbershop, like some of these other colleges try & sell to recruits. What a joke.

  • Cedarsooner says:

    I’d cut bait with Lamb now. It’s to early to go through this bs for a whole year with this guy. Let’s make an example and let him know that his scholly is now open until he decides his recruiting is over.

  • Hollerback says:

    Got a new QB!

  • Scott says:

    Marvin Wilson & Jeffrey Okudah will be a package deal. #JustWaitOnIt

  • Jeff says:

    Dobbins was a Texass lean but think they have backed off and told you suckas 2017 class is A LONG WAYS AWAY

  • Scott says:

    I still want Dylan Moses & Najee Harris. Primetime better start recruiting Najee.

  • Jpsooner23 says:

    Dobbins – Nightmare in air raid. Please come join us.

  • Dave Wilkins says:

    So Quick would rather hit than be hit? Is that why some thought he’d make a better CB? Wasn’t he the WR in the semifinal game who adjusted his route on Baker’s pick by going over the defender instead of under him? Would have been a tuff catch and would have been on the wrong end of a hit, but you gotta help your QB out in a situation like that.

    • Dick Bump says:

      He made some good plays last year.

      • Dave Wilkins says:

        Yes he did. I was just curious to why some said he would be better at DB. I did try and phrase that comment as a question.

        • Dick Bump says:

          I don’t know where it came from, other than Jordan’s comments above. I guess with missing out on a couple of dbs this year in recruiting led to some renewed speculation.

  • SoonerOracle737 says:

    I would like to reopen my thought process to decommitting from my original commitment whereupon I agreed to not commit to an uncommitted scholarship slot offered by a non-committal person on the other end of the phone. In light of this, I would respectfully request non-judgement of my non-committal attitude. Thank you.

  • Sam Philbeck says:

    Watched the first minute of Dobbins film and I’m sold. He needs to be a priority.

  • kt-raida says:

    Tell them we heard that a lot this last recruiting cycle and we do not trust it!

  • JJSoona says:

    I see some unnamed person (SD) is back from CMA training.

  • Maverick says:

    Finally watched the tape. That’s his sophmore film!? He’s a violent runner. Attacks the defense, uses his hands well, slippery as a greased pig, has great speed and quickness, vision…

    I’m sure he’s very high on everyone’s list. Hope he’s got that #OUDNA.

  • Dylan Cornell says:

    Biggest position needs in 2017 class?

  • TSFFKAG says:

    If Quick is interested at a shot at the NFL, then maybe a DB position would be his best shot.

  • Kdl says:

    Any word on what’s going on with Youngquist?

  • DCinAZ says:

    CeeDee fishing for that Texas offer huh?

    • Soonerboyz says:

      1st step: Secure OU commitment then get ready for the recruiting rush.

      • DCinAZ says:

        Yep. I hope the coaches are wise to this nonsense from these Texas kids using OU to secure offers from schools they really want to go to in TX. CeeDee kinda tipped his hand with that tweet IMO, no matter how far away NSD is next year.

        • Nate Broadus says:

          If so, he did it early enough that OU can prepare a contingency plan.

          I don’t care if kids are looking elsewhere, as long as they make it known early enough that OU can start making some backup plans.

    • Stephen says:

      Lsu.

      • Sacramento Sooner says:

        please say LSU isn’t really on his radar. Why would any good WR want to go to a school that can’t recruit a good QB, much less throw it less that 5x a game

        • Stephen says:

          From what I’ve heard. He would consider flipping for an LSU offer probably based on the WR talent they’ve put in the NFL.

  • Maverick says:

    Anyone want to put together a “Best signing Class of the Stoops Era”? Ranked by production on the field. Not star ranking.

  • j l says:

    Whole new set of names i gotta start learning for the 2017 class. going to have to clear out the memory banks to make room.

  • Drew says:

    Wow. LOVE Dobbin’s film. With the way he broke tackles and bowled over defenders, you would think he was bigger than 184.

  • Rene Goupillaud says:

    With Shep getting a high percentage of the balls, it was difficult for other guys to get into the flow. That changes now. I hink Quick will surprise us.

    Pretty sure we are still recruiting receivers. Most likely, every recruit who continues to play the recruiting game is told his spot isn’t guaranteed. It lets OU recruit over him.

    We don’t want kids who don’t want to be here. Bob is right to low pressure it while making it clear that if someone else hard commits, the scholly would no longer be available.

    Remember, these kids don’t know how the process works. They don’t know or care about the value of their word. They are used to people swooning over them. That’s why you read about kids graduating from high school while reading at a 3rd grade level. I’m confident the coaches understand what they need to do.

    I doubt Bob lost any sleep over any decommits. He may shake his head at a situation like Velus Jones this year, but he realizes these are young men who don’t exactly come from your typical upper middle class family.

    As an aside, it’s a lot better to waffle now than to wait until next January.

    Final point, I doubt we’ll miss our 2 late decommits. I prefer to get excited about our new signees than worry about decommits or even the 2017 commitments. Doing that won’t make any on field difference this coming season.

    • rphokc says:

      quick better make his move doing something…….he’s already a jr next yr

    • Brent says:

      quick reminds me of durron neal…every spring I think of his potential and convince myself this will be his breakout year.

  • Ron Burgandy says:

    Speaking of Shep, what happened at the SR. Bowl, I never heard why he didn’t play ? ?

    • Daddy R says:

      He did play. At least the first two offensive series, but no stats..

      • Ron Burgandy says:

        Was he injured, or held out, or what ? ?

        • Daddy R says:

          Not sure. He was banged up in the practices leading up to the game, and I thought he didnt play also (because of the no stats)… but others told me he did play in beginning, but not at all rest of game. So unfortunately, I can’t answer your question.

  • LottsSocks says:

    More plaudits about Caleb Kelly at http://kmph-kfre.com/sports/local-sports/the-character-of-caleb-kelly. Man this kid is IMPRESSIVE!

  • Daryl says:

    First of all to make it clear I don’t like when kids flip but I am ok with it. Things can change and so I don’t love it but I have no problem with it!

    BUT “I am Still committed” to a school while at the same sending a tweet saying my recruiting is still open???? I draw the line there. That I do not agree with. I wish OU could send a tweet saying we are still recruiting other WRs for Mr. Lamb’s scholarship spot.

  • ellisbr says:

    Dobbins film looks good. tough to get that guy down. I like they way he runs.

  • ellisbr says:

    I’m ready for Tupai to commit to OU!

  • PlayLikeaChampion says:

    Kelly is going to add some serious leadership to the defense. He just seems like a natural leader and a well spoken athlete that knows how to show appreciation and gratitude of an opportunity. Players like Kelly, Jackson and Draper plus the others are going to man a stout LB corp years to come. This a future NFL group.

  • OUzaudioman says:

    I say BS…CeeDee saying your still committed is a little “seedy” in my opinion.

    See what I did there 🙂

    • Mizuno44 says:

      Nize…

    • Soonerboyz says:

      I say ask them to tell you the meaning of the word before they commit.

    • sooner8 says:

      This is just how the recruiting game is played now!!It drives us as fans totally bonkers so think what it must do too the OU coaching staff.This is how the freaking game is played now!!Go Sooners!!

      • Nate Broadus says:

        Actually, I would be relieved, somewhat, to hear him say this. It means the coaches are aware of a possible flip well ahead of time and can draw up some contingency plans.

    • PLAW0720 says:

      Once you say you’re committed, then say your recruiting is still “open”, by de facto you are not committed. Would love to get another big time WR on board and tell seedy CeeDee hasta la vista, baby.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Haven’t heard much lately on Mayfield’s appeal for an additional year of eligibility, anyone know anything?

    • Mizuno44 says:

      9 minutes, no reply, that means no

    • Stephen Woods says:

      Haven’t heard anything..

    • PlayLikeaChampion says:

      Conference appeals appeared to be denied, so an attorney is taking it up a notch. Nothing new since that option was pursued. Most likely won’t hear anything until fall camp or the fall season. But, I’m speculating because no official word one way or the other is out there.

    • Daddy R says:

      Last I read he is allowed pursue the big 12 faculty angle again… but yea, what PLaC said below, he’s lawyered up.

  • bmrsnr says:

    Is Orso really up to almost 6’8?

  • iambrianwilliams says:

    Sallisaw’s Quint Scoufos also signed as a preferred walk-on – http://m.swtimes.com/sports/football/football-sallisaw-s-scoufos-join-ou-preferred-walk

  • hOUligan says:

    Thinking about Bryce Youngquist today. Recall when he announced he was committing to OU he said something about liking the quieter environment in Norman over Eugene. Now, reading comments from Kelly, he said he was not into the flashy uniforms and stuff w/ Oregon. Both grounded kids who can see through the glitz and glitter. These are the kind of guys that seem to gravitate to OU and that’s a very good thing.

  • OceanDescender says:

    Good lord, Dobbins is an animal! That sophomore label on the film must be a typo…

    • PlayLikeaChampion says:

      He has a Junior HUDL film too. He’s around 5’10” 195lbs in his Junior film.

      • OceanDescender says:

        I’m sure junior highlights are just as impressive. Hope OU can land him!

        • PlayLikeaChampion says:

          He’s the type of RB OU wants in their backfield, big, thick, allusive with ability to move the chains inside, not just run off tackle.

          • OceanDescender says:

            Got a lot of elusive moves in the arsenal when the ball is in his hands too. Great looking prospect for sure.

  • Brien Brown says:

    So I know it’s way toooooooo early to predict what kids will do for us. Butttttttt, I really do love this class a lot I like all the players involved and think this could be a class although so small will have a great impact. So much talent on the D side, JMT, Jackson, Sylvie, Kelly, Parker, and Bledsoe all scream future All Big 12 players perhaps AA’s. Adams, Farrar, Jones, Kendal, and all of the O-Line guys look studly! Could be a lot of fun mix in the class from last year and the year before just saying WOW!

    • PlayLikeaChampion says:

      The ONLY prospects OU missed on that left me perturbed to any degree were Mayden and V Jones. I can live with the other two after watching film and thinking they were stout players, but not necessarily difference-makers like Bledsoe, Kelly, Jackson, Parker along with recruits above mentioned.

      OU was gifted Kyler Murray – 5 Stars, Geno Lewis – 4 Stars and Mykel Jones – 4 Stars, so fans need to consider their lucky stars in all of this too. Call it Sooner Magic!

      • Nate Broadus says:

        Mykel Jones is an upgrade for Velus Jones. Getting him at the last minute made Velus’ little yo-yo flip much easier to take. Mayden is the only one that pissed me off because it was last minute and appeared to have played a part in running off Parrish Cobb (if not caused it directly).

        • PlayLikeaChampion says:

          I agree. Mayden will be transferring to OU by 2018, once he’s tired of sitting around waiting for 5 star stacked CBs to declare for the draft.

          • Daddy R says:

            And hopefully we’ll be stacked enough by then to say, thanks, but no thanks.

          • Daddy R says:

            And hopefully we’ll be stacked enough by then to say, thanks, but no thanks.

          • Zack says:

            If he’s good enough to want at ou then he’s good enough to play at Alabama. I wouldn’t be expecting him to burn out there and if he did, I don’t know why people would want a burnout from Alabama.

        • Brien Brown says:

          Yea but Cobb if that good shouldn’t be scared of comp and he already had that in Parker so I don’t buy that!

          • PlayLikeaChampion says:

            Perhaps, OU sold him that OU was only looking at three CBs in this class, then Mayden shows up unannounced. It wasn’t like OU needed four CBs in this class. Cobb is a stout ATH, but Mayden did look a notch above. OU took a chance and it didn’t pan out. Had it panned out, nobody would be saying a word about Cobb.

          • Zack says:

            Cobb hurt a little bit. I did hear a rumor today that one of the recruiters kind of ripped him for wanting to take visits. I won’t name names but I will say he’s about the least popular position coach right now.

          • Brien Brown says:

            Well that means Kish cause he is the one everyone loves to hate well him and Mike so may have been Mike lol cause he does have a temper!

          • Zack says:

            I think everyone has moved past hating kish. There’s a new guy at the top of most people’s list. Go look at who each recruiter landed as a “primary” or lead recruiter and you’ll see the weak link.

          • Brien Brown says:

            Well that’s why I threw in Mike Stoops I think the only kid I seen his name next too was Kelly. Reynolds maybe cause he only landed Bledsoe and we did miss on a lot of DT’s in this class.

      • Brien Brown says:

        Agreed. Murray will be a stud I said the other day 2 seasons from now he gets us in Nat Champ game! He will be fired up from sitting a year and the kid will be a stud in OUr system and I think Lewis will be a stud also he needs and wants a break out year,

        • Jake says:

          Having a full year with zero expectations (due to the transfer rule) will do wonders in developing Murray within our system.

      • SoonerfanTU says:

        I think we replaced Jones with Jones. No net gain or loss on that. Mayden hurt b/c we also didn’t get Cobb, I agree. Daniels would have been nice as well, but it wasn’t a big need with last year’s DL class. I don’t think missing out on Moore hurts either, b/c I actually like Swenson just as much, if not more.

    • Big Higg says:

      I love this class too and I trust stoopsie

  • PlayLikeaChampion says:

    http://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/990/781/6_781990.jpg
    Mykel Jones takes V Jones place at the table.

  • Big Higg says:

    God$#@&+t I love Oklahoma football and I’m excited about this class! BOOMER

  • Chezrus says:

    Not sure if yall have seen this but it’s cool to check out… https://ouathletics.exposure.co/oklahoma-football

    • Nate Broadus says:

      You’re looking at three incredibly talented QB’s on campus.

      This isn’t a QB rotation — it’s a collection of gunslingers.

    • Jake says:

      Mykel, is something wrong with your eyes? You could have gone to an LSU-type offense, where your talent would have been 100% preserved until the NFL. Now you’re actually going to have a chance to build your NFL stock and compete for National Championships.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      I saw those stats when I watched his film, I think Riley can work this kid into a solid backup.

    • bigrackhunter says:

      We had decent success here of late with walk-on qbs. 🙂

    • Nate Broadus says:

      Tanner Schafer’s arm strength isn’t that impressive. That said, the kid was a winner, EXTREMELY accurate and clearly confident enough to come to OU and compete for playing time, instead of taking a straight up scholarship at a smaller school. He also has some of that “Baker Mayfield” quick-twitch decision making (he reads the situation well and adjusts on the fly).

      To get that in a walk-on is a coup. It’s not like this kid is a DIII prospect. He had a D1 offer that he turned down to come to OU. If nothing else, I applaud this kid’s cojones. You have to possess balls of steel to turn down a sure scholly for a chance at one of the most storied programs in college football history.

      • Pat3332 says:

        Also wonder if he might have a chip on his shoulder and a something to prove attitude like Baker from being overlooked by some of the big schools.

      • sodaksooner says:

        Took a couple of days off after signing day. Must have missed it…….has Schafer decided he will be walking on at OU?

      • Mark_in_VA says:

        Yeah, he definitely gives off that Mayfield vibe. Also, give him a year or two under Smitty, and that strength is going to improve.

        I see this kid earning a scholarship pretty fast if he comes in and works hard.

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  • bigrackhunter says:

    I don’t know what film some of the posters was watching the other day of Kelly, and said he doesn’t look “physical” or “lacks the boom”. He looked down right dominant as a edge rusher, Very Striker ish in how he could see the play develop, and attack downhill before most of the oline came out of their stance.

  • Walter Sobcek says:

    Last night I visited my favorite card-reading soothsayer in Transylvania, and, despite knowing nothing about college football, she told me the Sooners make the playoffs this season, and, (this is very good, too) Nick Saban will never win another championship at Bama. She got a nice tip!

  • Zach Chaney says:

    what do you guys think of this guy from my hometown? He went to Oklahoma states junior day two weeks ago. He is really to small for de but I think he may end up being a great te next year seeing how we run him in the spread like OUr team. and we also only had our starting qb for 2 games and then they used a receiver as qb.
    http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4150578/vaughn-appleman

    • Zack says:

      At 6’8 and being a junior in high school, I wonder when he’s going to stop growing. If he gets much taller then I don’t think his future is in football. Watching his highlights he seems to play with pretty good leverage on defense but he looks like a guy that we would have taken in 2009-2012 and tried to turn into an offensive lineman. He may end up being a good project but I don’t know if he’s a guy ou can hold a scholarship 2 or 3 years to develop into an OT. In his recruitment though I think it’s going to matter what a guy like Dan Cody thinks about him.

      • TSFFKAG says:

        Carmichael played WR at 6’8″ for the Philadelphia Eagles, but your right, it takes an especially talented individual.

      • Zach Chaney says:

        He has only been running this offense for a year since wade Stanley has just joined us this year. And he played more of the traditional te role. So I’m interested to see how he develops over the next year.

      • Zach Chaney says:

        Hopefully wade takes us back to the top and gets us that 20th state championship. I was like 7 when dan was playing at ada but I do remember when we went to the state title game and me and my mom was switching between the ou and florida state game and the ada vs carl albert game.

    • Ron Burgandy says:

      A step slow?

  • Kdl says:

    I don’t think Quick at CB wouldn’t be a bad idea to try…. I know we are questionable at WR this year somewhat, but we are kinda in the same boat at CB. When you think about he has excellent speed and probably even better at change of direction and quickness. He should also have good ball skills with playing WR. IDK if he has played DB a lot in his life to learn technique and how his hips would be. Also his is size solid and I seen Coach Cooks works a lot on tackling so he would have the potential to be a solid tackler. If he does indeed have a heart ghee ceiling on D I wouldn’t mind them trying it. D does win championships they say! If I’m not mistaken, BS did this a lot when he first came to OU and had great success with it so I trust him.

    • Zach Chaney says:

      he was being recruited as both from what I remember. But his offensive ability stood out a lot more from what it seemed like.

      • bigrackhunter says:

        That is true he was highly rank at both positions, but wanted a shot at wr. Coaches said his highest ceiling was at cb tho. Demarco Murry and Ryan Broyles was thought to have a higher ceiling at db as well…. So you never know for certain.
        P. S. Move Stanvon Taylor to wr and give him a shot, can’t hurt at this point

    • JD says:

      Im pretty sure Quick was coached up by one of the better hs db coaches..Coach Perry. Im sure he has a decent understanding of playing db

  • TSFFKAG says:

    The real question, of course, is how long will it take for “the Hulk” and Caleb Kelly to team up as student broadcasters for us.

    • Mark_in_VA says:

      Is it just me or was his first highlight punctuated with an unsportsman like? Looked like ref threw the flag because he chucked the ball at the defender.

  • sooner44 says:

    The difference between involvement & commitment is like ham & eggs. The chicken is involved; the pig is committed. -Martina Navratilova

  • Zack says:

    I decided to look at our available scholarships open for 2017 recruits. From what I’ve noticed there are going to be:16 graduating seniors. Attrition for transfers/grade casualties seems to be about 4 or 5 each year. Since 2015 season ended we have seen frison, knight, Thomas, and hearne announce they were leaving for whatever reasons. I may be missing one or 2, and I think there’s still a chance others leave.
    4-9 players leave for draft. Draft eligible players after 2016 season, who I think have NFL futures, I would guess only 4 or 5 actually go but worst case scenario 9 leave early. Perine, mixon, brown, Alvarez, Romar, Walker, j. Thomas, Johnson and Parker are the guys I think could leave depending on the type of seasons they have and whether they think it’s time to make the jump.
    I say 25 will be the number to shoot for. That will allow some flexibility at the end of the recruiting cycle of attrition is higher.

    • Dustin says:

      Parker, J. Thomas, Samaje, Joe, Andrews, Zeus, and C. Walker were the underclassmen I see as most likely to enter the 2017 draft. IMO, Alvarez, Romar and W. Johnson are nowhere near ready for the NFL.

      • Zack says:

        See I would lump Andrews into the group that’s not quite ready. So far he hasn’t proven he can be on the field for a majority of the offensive snaps. We will see how next year goes, if his health situation allows him to play a lot more then yes he’s an NFL talent no doubt.

        • Dustin says:

          He’s not ready now by any means. I put him on the “possible” list because he has physical tools that scouts drool over. If his production spikes next season, I could see him rocketing up draft boards.

      • Brien Brown says:

        I would take Andrews out unless he has a huge year which is possible. Parker and Perine I think will come back. Mixon has a big year he gone and same with Zeus, Thomas, and Walker.

        • Dustin says:

          I don’t anticipate too many leaving. However, I wouldn’t be shocked if any declared next year.

          • Brien Brown says:

            I agree could be a very special year and which would possibly result in a lot of early departures unless they felt they had a good enough core to come back and win even more and improve even more. Which I think all those kids even having big year would all improve stock if they all came back another season!

          • Dustin says:

            I’m just stingy. I want them all to stay as long as possible.

    • Brien Brown says:

      I did the same thing and I was at 24-27 in that range as idea. Which would make sense of all the early offers we have seen and heard about so far. Seems they are offering elite talent so far though and that’s not a knock on previous years. Just feel they are throwing their hat into the mix with a lot more studs than before!

      • Zack says:

        This year I think they need to go heavy after the Texas kids. With the potential ou has this upcoming season, they need to take advantage of going after the best in Texas. We play 5 of the top 6 Texas programs and 4 of those in Texas, 2 in Dallas.
        I know mike and coach cooks have okudah circled and they plan to go get him. I’ve heard tosu is out in front for the kid but with a great year and our 2 best recruiters going after him, I give us a decent shot especially since it seems apparent that he’s fine with leaving the state.
        I’m trying to go through and make a list of top targets from the early offers and what I’m hearing as far as the ones we have a real shot at landing. Then I’m going to look at others primarily from Texas, Louisiana and California to see who might be flying under the radar or might be willing to leave their home states.

        • Brien Brown says:

          I agree on the Texas prospects kids I would put on that list are and just IMO. Marvin Wilson, Jeffery Okudah, CB Chevin Calloway, T Austin Deculus, LB Anthony Hines he 3rd, WR Tylan Wallace, RB J.K. Dobbins, WR Charleston Rambo, CB Kary Vincent, and T Walker Little of OG Grayson Reed. All Texas kids we need to get or be in on! I havent made a list of guys arounf the nation we should go after!

  • Ruffneck737 says:

    Game day men’s BB OU/Kansas next weekend!!

    • SoonerinLondon says:

      Flying in from Florida for the game. Can’t wait.

      (Gotta win two between now and then, though, to make it what it needs to be.)

      • AgedBill says:

        Yeah, we need to not look ahead and play them as they come. But, I am so looking forward to the Kansas game.

        In fact, I think we win going away! No overtime! Lol!

      • Ruffneck737 says:

        That’s cool, finally some love from espin.

  • Dustin says:

    I have officially broken radio silence. It’s great to be back. I missed you filthy animals.
    BOOMER SOONER

  • Rich says:

    I guess these recruits commitments are kind of like a guy asking a girl to marry him but telling her that he will still sleep around just to make sure. That’s not the definition of commitment.

  • SamSooner says:

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    Help, please.

  • SamSooner says:

    ICYMI, here’s my attempt at some humor, RR style:

    He liked it here. He’d always prayed he’d never have to leave. He had not lived anywhere else but he knew, in his heart, there was no place better. He secretly called it Never Land.

    A poster featuring Captain Kirk pointing his phaser at a Klingon hung on a wall above his desk. The corner was was held down by yellowing masking tape. There was lots of a posters of “Tink and Pan”, as well as posters of “The Godfather”, “Rocky”, “Back to the Future”, and another poster of Voldemort, emphatically casting a kiss-a** spell, as if to say, “Kick Rocks, Harry Potter!” We’ve all seen the image. You know the one.

    Like most kids, he immersed himself into watching late night movies and consuming lots Mountain Dew, which was what was in his handwriting of his mother’s grocery list. He spent a fair amount of time looking at pretty girls in magazines, where hundreds of issues were in a box under his bed. Up until this day, when his face was in a magazine, his hands were in his pants.

    Oh, but the computer; as much as he liked scratching himself, it was the computer that was the gateway to everything not in Never Land; that’s where he spent most of his time; it was no different now; he sat in a chair that all but swallowed him up, staring up at the computer’s screen, in a trance-like state, pecking away, mindlessly going from here to there at every click he made with the mouse. The glow coming off the screen lit up his face and the glare reflected off his bulging eyes and his, bigger still, round glasses. He closely resembled the fictional character Gollum, wearing glasses like those worn by Sherman.

    Near the wall opposite of the poster of Tink, Pan, and Voldemort was his special place. His religious place where no Tomfoolery was allowed. He, as was his parents, was a devout Baptist. He might miss school but he never missed church. So, he ran along side his parents with the unpredictable behavior of Gollum, like a monkey, jumping from tree to tree. He played nasty jokes on the girls, just like monkeys pissing and sh***g as he entered their worlds just to get a rise out of them. Church was something they attended every Wednesday evening and twice on Sunday. He liked it: it was holy everyone but he enjoyed causing a ruckus. No, he never missed church.

    As much as he loved church, he loved football. In time he would convince himself that God was a football fan and that He was okay with him easing prayers for victory into his prayers for salvation. God, he thought, would not have given the world football if He didn’t want them to enjoy it. He didn’t gamble on football like most people. That would be wrong. God would not approve of that. If he gambled, he thought, God would not reward his favorite team with a victory. That thought made him want answers about his Dad. He wanted to know why his Dad behavior on Fall Saturdays varied and mirrored his mood on Sundays? His Dad would yell “BOOMER! SOONER!” and punch him on the shoulder, encouraging him to yell it back. He did as expected. He’d say it with a smile and much enthusiasm, “Yeah, Dad, boomer, sooner.” He wanted to know why his Dad sometimes wore a scowl on Sundays, almost grumbling, seemingly, as he put two dollars in the collection plate. But there were Sundays his Dad seemed jovial, yelling “BOOMER! at everyone he passed as they entered the church. Somewhere across the lawn he’d hear “SOONER!” as people filed into the church. On those Sundays, his Dad would pull a wad from his pockets and tossed a $20 bill in with other cash. He often wondered about that.

    He spun around in the too-big chair and looked across the room at his religious place. It was his place for quiet prayer: a table stood reposed. The legs disappeared into the shaggy carpet, which had been there since the 1970s. There was a worn out pillow that was an indication of where he knelt, where he prayed. While his prayers were more about football wins and less about salvation, he always made sure he prayed that he could always live in this house, Never Land, forever.

    On the table was a Bible, several candles with melting wax that was starting loosen up and move again and collect at the base of the candle. The candles were aglow. They were lit on special occasions, during prayer time and on his birthday, only. Prayers for football wins were kicked to the curb with prayers for salvation today. He only prayed for one thing on his birthday: that he would always live in Never Land.

    “Dear, God,” he’d always start, “it’s me. I don’t know about there. I like it here. Never, ever make me have to go live there. I want to live here in Never Land forever and ever. Amen.”

    To the right of the table were pencil marks where he’d measured himself. His last measurement, some fifty years ago was just over five feet. To the left of his measurements was his most prized possession: “A poster of Earl Campbell avoiding a would be tackler, with the ball in tucked away in one arm and an out-stretched arm in the facemask of a defender. He looked at it and tears filled the levy of his eyes.

    He saw a movement, a shadow, out of the corner of his eye. It was a woman, who appeared to be about 80 years old. She was surprising spry for her age. She passed a handwritten sign that read “Down here, Ma!” code for “I’m in the basement.” She was carrying a cake with so many lit candles that it threatened to catch fire to her clothes.

    He jumped up and down like Gollum and clapped in jubilation. “You got them all on there, Ma.!!”

    “Yes, I did,” she replied, “all 60 of them.”

    “But, Ma,” he said with a quizzical expression, “where’s Happy Birthday and where’s my name?”

    “Not enough room,” she said as she looked at him endearingly, “we mustn’t use your name, you know. We know who this is for.”

    “I love you, Ma and I love Never Land.”

  • JB says:

    Lamb’s “process” is open but he has no intention of decommitting? What a bunch of wishy washy nonsense is that? That ranks right up there with, “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.”

    Translation: He likes his OU offer so he’s going to take it to keep someone else from getting the spot, but if somebody else that he likes better offers him, he’s bolting. I hope Bob retracts his offer and gives it to someone who understands the meaning of the word commitment. If you aren’t 100% in, then don’t commit. It’s that simple.

    • SamSooner says:

      That would be hard to navigate as a coach. How do you tactfully cut bait?

    • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

      No recruit has to execute the recruiting process the way that you want him to.

      This needs to be understood by everyone on this site.

      • CcrBoomer says:

        And no school has to stop recruiting that position just because a kid commits and is still shopping around, It’s a two way street. If your still taking visits then it means your a soft commit and you can be replaced and offer pulled it’s that simple

        • Dick Bump says:

          If his commitment is in doubt, there is a good chance OU will recruit past him. I think the Sooners are going to have an excellent season and will be in the running for some of the best talent out there. That door swings both ways.

      • JJSoona says:

        I get what you’re saying and you’re correct. But isn’t that kind of like getting engaged but still “looking”?

        • Zack says:

          The world works a lot differently these days. People think until they are married they are free to look around, and they think that should be the norm. I completely disagree but it’s one reason why I am not married.

        • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

          No. It’s like dating, and loosely.

      • D Hunter Sanchez says:

        They are hijacking the meaning of the term “Commit.” Take your damn visits and then decide.

      • StL Sooner says:

        Yep. We don’t have to like it. We just have to cheer for whoever plays!
        That doesn’t mean we can’t bitch about it now and then though ;>)

      • StL Sooner says:

        Yep. We don’t have to like it. We just have to cheer for whoever plays!
        That doesn’t mean we can’t bitch about it now and then though ;>)

  • jonnyBgood says:

    I like the Schafer add a lot. I’m fighting the urge to utilize an easy walk-on joke. ?

  • TSFFKAG says:

    Dwayne Orso projected to reach over 10’2″ by the end of his Senior year.

  • Richard North says:

    I’ve watched Shafer play several times. I think we may have a good solution to our depth problem!

  • Nate Broadus says:

    Tanner Schafer has some stiff competition ahead of him. He may never start a game at OU. Having said that, he reminds me of that QB that nobody ever heard of that goes to Tulsa and comes to Norman and has a record setting day. You know what I’m talking about — that kid that puts up 400 yards and has all of the OU internet sites calling for Mike Stoops’ nuts.

    That’s who Tanner Schafer reminds me of. I wouldn’t count him out by damn sight.

    • Brien Brown says:

      Dane Evans?

      • Nate Broadus says:

        Similar, though he isn’t the only mid-major QB that came to Norman and caused some gnashing of teeth.

        Schafer has the game to be one of those guys — but at OU, he has a hell of a lot of competition for that spot. If he were to beat out Murray and Kendall, he’ll deserve that starting job.

  • JJSoona says:

    A loss in *&^%water for oswho

  • bigrackhunter says:

    Just watched the New England vs Philly super bowl again. What the Patriots did to Mcnabb is the best and most effective way to beat a mobile qb. They went to a 4 man front instead of their usual odd front. Instead of sitting back in their gaps and keeping everything in front of them. They pinned their ears back and made his life a living hell. How many times have we seen Oklahoma sit back and allow mobile qb’s to pick us apart and hand them the initiative play after play. Basically allowing the opposing qb to dictate the pace and let the game flow on his terms. Point being Denver needs to harass Newton to no end. Make him uncomfortable, thus forcing bad decisions, and dont allow him to find his grove.

    • Boomer4life says:

      The Panthers are going to dominate that game. .just sayin.

      • bigrackhunter says:

        That could very well happened, given they are the favorites and are on fire. Just thought what the Patriots did, by attacking and blizing Mcnabb to the point he was tired and running for his life. Is the blue print for beating a mobile qb.

        • Jerry Reid says:

          That’s what Clemson and Texas did to Mayfield last year.

          • Defend Colfax says:

            Not as much blitzing as you’d think. Both of their Dlines dominated our O line.

          • bigrackhunter says:

            Most of the blame goes on the inexperienced oline at key positions. Rily’s worse games last year was easily Texas and Clemson. Seemed he tried to get too pass happy, instead of taking what the D gave him.

        • Boomer4life says:

          This crow is kinda of tough. Good call!

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      Point taken. We faced three real dual threats this past year (Boykin was hurt). The Vols Qb didn’t hurt us. But Texas and Clemson killed us at Qb. Why? Next year, we open with Greg Ward Jr. To me, MS needs to be able to stop the run by both QB and RB and trust man to man. Keep the pass completions in front of you. If we get burned by the QB run in week 1, we need to question MS as the D coordinator. Enough is enough on the zone read.

      • bigrackhunter says:

        Agree completely. We must live in there backfield, stop the play dead in its tracts. Yeah you get beat deep a time or two, but don’t allow the zone read to be the poison we shallow time and time again. How many times did we see our lb playing on their heels once the opposing qb got comfortable and seem to grow more confidence as the game went along. Yet for some reason Mike chooses the slow death and would rather sit back and not get beat. Instead of taken the initiative, and blow the play up by being aggressive.

      • TSFFKAG says:

        The 2016 Defense should attack, attack attack. Throw every kind of blitz package known to the game. Be a very offensive defense. Make a dual QB one dimensional by not giving him the time to look at his receivers. Do what Denver did to Tom Brady.

      • Jim Casy says:

        I think the problem against Texas and Clemson was we only scored 17 points.

    • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

      If EJ Manuel is considered a mobile QB, then watch OU vs. Florida State (2011). Brent sent his (many and expected) blitzes. EJ was a poor passer. Maybe a good runner.

      • bigrackhunter says:

        This^^^^^ exactly, we was the more physical team that night. Ask Manuel and Shaw, if they ever want to play a coach V led D again.

  • Dave Wilkins says:

    A kid keeping his recruiting process open after committing may just be the way to get invited to some good games to watch from the sidelines this year…… Getting to take visits to some of the best campuses for game day would be pretty enjoyable.

    • bigrackhunter says:

      Hopefully that’s what this is. Experience new places on someone else’s dime. Plus I heard those red carpet visit can be very entertaining and enjoyable.

    • Jim Casy says:

      I would definitely take all my visits for this reason. I remember myself at this age. I had never been more than 200 miles in any direction from my hometown or on an airplane. Some of the guys we recruit might have similar backgrounds. I would take my visits but at the same time stay in constant communication with the coaches. Yeah, I’d probably take maximum visits in the fall to all the top places just for fun.

      • D Hunter Sanchez says:

        Then don’t commit! Take your visits enjoy the heck ot of them and come to a final decision. Clemson makes those who commit and take other visits decommit first.

        • Dave Wilkins says:

          But if they clue the coach’s into what is going on and stay commit, what’s the harm? I’d rather a recruit commit and visit early than late.

        • Gary Robbins says:

          Clemson seems to be doing pretty good with that philosophy.

        • Maranatha846 says:

          Exactly right. If you want to take visits then don’t commit. If you’re a coach and think a guy is who you want, then offer and don’t try to recruit over him if you don’t have another a scholarship for his position.

  • Sevenk Miinkz says:

    I believe we should implement the same philosophy as Clemson & lamb should decommit. I don’t wanna go thru some of the same things we went thru in 2016 in 2017 (Chris Daniels & Parrish Cobb)

    • Zack says:

      OU doesn’t have the clout right now to do that. They need to live with the fact that talented players are going to be advised to look at every option. If NSD was tomorrow for him then he would be at ou. If he were my kid I would make sure he is open to other schools because while I love ou, if Stanford or northwestern were calling him then I would make sure he’s taking the calls.

      • Sevenk Miinkz says:

        Then dont commit. I assume when u commit to something or an institution u have made your mind up by the time u decide to commit

        • SoonerinLondon says:

          Kids are committing to lock up a scholly at a good school, then they look around “without risk”. It’s the new game.

          I don’t like it because it happens at the expense of the school.

          An early signing period would help protect the school and the player, in these situations.

          • Daddy R says:

            Do a three month signing window. No early signing, no NSD. Allow kids to begin official visits their junior year, and then from January 1 – March 31 of their Senior year of HS, they can sign. If they don’t sign by the deadline, then they must walkon, or wait until the next signing period the next year.

        • brainpimp says:

          Great advice, for you and your recruitment.

        • Brent says:

          it’s similar to getting engaged but breaking off the wedding before the ceremony. it’s better than the player transferring after the 1st year because his heart was never truly in it.

    • Zack says:

      Another thing is we already flipped one linebacker for 2017 and were trying to flip another one. So it goes both ways. Do you want our coaches to leave kids alone because they’ve committed to other schools?

      • Brien Brown says:

        Yea but Zack I feel the Draper commit deal was in order to put a lil more pressure on OU to offer and get involved which worked to his favor, mean Draper was all OU anyway as soon as we offered!

        • Zack says:

          He had the ou offer before committing to osu.

          • Brien Brown says:

            I didn’t think so, but, was it he had the offer and was just pissed cause we had waited so long?

          • Brien Brown says:

            But either way Zack I enjoy talking the recruiting aspect with you! Your very optimistic and yet realistic and straight forward I appreciate it!

          • Zack says:

            You too man. You’re one of the posters that separates this board from others. Regulars on other boards are just trolls and that’s what makes this board good is the regulars bring their own ideas and create discussions without trash talking.

          • Brien Brown says:

            I concur sir! It’s nice to not deal with so many troll but clearly there is a few. However some I think do it to get people all pissed lol. But, I enjoy it cause people def. have some good ideas as far as what we do on the field and how they would change it, and talk about kids and the ones we need to step up or ones we need. I also enjoy hearing the older guys stories of games I never saw but because of their comments I went and looked up! Mostly a good fun board!

          • Zack says:

            Really the trolls come and go. I don’t think SD is as bad as his reputation suggests. I’ve never really had an issue with him.

          • rphokc says:

            watch it zack, the sd circling buzzards will descend, might even write ridiculous short stories about you for straying from the line

          • soonerinks says:

            Call me crazy but I actually like Stephen Dale

          • Stephen Woods says:

            I’ve been to several paid website and boards. Seriously none of them compare to this one!

          • soonerthunder says:

            Zack and Brien, you two are of my two favorite posters. I like several others, but I appreciate both of your posts very much. Thanks. And thanks TFBs too. I appreciate this site.

        • curt gomer says:

          thats about exactly what happened with Daniels.

      • Sevenk Miinkz says:

        Why would I encourage Oklahoma not to try & flip a player. I don’t feel nothing for another school & what they’re philosophy is. That’s on them. We’ve been the victim our players flipping because we’ve allowed it

        • Zack says:

          Again ou doesn’t have the clout to tell recruits to commit and shut down or they lose their offer. If ou wants to play that game then we will end up with the kinds of classes we had in 2010-2013. If your wanting ou to find hardcore ou fans as recruits then we will have a bunch of 2 and 3 stars from Enid and Lawton and have very little chance with the high rated 4s and 5 stars.

          • Gary Robbins says:

            So you are saying OU has no clout. What has happened to OU and there is only one. How come Clemson is getting away with t?

          • Zack says:

            I didn’t say they have none, just not the kind where they can tell any recruit they have to shut it down or their offer is removed. It works for Clemson at times but I bet they’re more lenient than they want to be. Northwestern tried that philosophy and they’ve changed their tune as well.

          • Mark_in_VA says:

            There’s a difference between none and not enough. With the very top guys, it’s basically the same thing. The schools that think they might get them hold the spots and wait until signing day to find out. Even Bama can’t tell these guys “commit or else”.

            I think you let the recruits say what they want, but you treat them as though they haven’t committed unless you have a great relationship and you know they’re truly committed. So guys like JMT and Parker, you have a different relationship with them than you have with Cobb or Daniels, where you act like they’ve never said a thing about committing. At least that’s how I look at it.

          • Zack says:

            Valid points. Kids all want attention. Even the ones who act like they don’t, at some point want attention.

          • D Hunter Sanchez says:

            Clemson has more recruiting clout.

          • PlayLikeaChampion says:

            Only because of location. They are in the middle of NC, GA and FL hotbeds plus SC isn’t chicken feed. That’s a major luxury. Winning helps them attract talent from those logistically friendly hotbeds.

          • PlayLikeaChampion says:

            Only because of location. They are in the middle of NC, GA and FL hotbeds plus SC isn’t chicken feed. That’s a major luxury. Winning helps them attract talent from those logistically friendly hotbeds.

    • PlayLikeaChampion says:

      Daniels was never going to OU with his family’s very personal relationship with Strong. Just read between the lines. Joke was on OU. Cobb was run off by Mayden. I’m sure he was po’d OU thought they needed another CB with him already committed and another two on the commit list.

      It happens. Turn page.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Can someone explain the preferred walk on specifics?

  • Mike Reed says:

    This short article says the Big XII Commish “muzzled” David Boren. Anyone have any further insight/information on this? The article is dated today. http://fredsportsextra.com/?p=1742

    • Boomer4life says:

      Weird statements of assumption.

    • Nate Broadus says:

      This conference is so slanted toward the Texas schools, it’s ridiculous.

      I used to be in favor of caution, over passion — however, over time there is less and less logical reason to stay. OU has gotten nothing out of the deal, while other conferences have gotten stronger. The conference has benefited more from OU’s membership than has OU. it’s an uneven partnership.

      I get the feeling Boren is seeing it the same way.

      • Mark_in_VA says:

        I get the feeling Boren is seeing it the same way.
        Let’s hope so. All depends on how Poke is going to be handled politically. If we’ve decided to sever ties, we have a lot of clout.

      • Zack says:

        I think boren is setting it up to show a clear lack of effort from the big 12 to keep up with the jones’s. I honestly believe he wants ou to be in the big 10 and that’s why he’s pushing so hard. He needs to let this season play out, see if something hurts ou/big 12 that keeps a deserving team out of the playoff.
        I do think his agenda is to make ou a big 10 school at this point. He wants ou to be at that sort of level academically and he would settle for being a pac 12 school which have similar but not all are elite in academics like the big 10. There’s some level of distinction in academics that every big 10 school has, and ou does not have that award or whatever. It would be interesting to see if they would take ou on the name alone.

        • j l says:

          that clear lack of effort could help in a court case to get us out of the GoR as well. Im sure there is some language in there that the conference is supposed to “move forward” or some such.

          • Zack says:

            Or to protect the integrity and strive for continued excellence.

          • j l says:

            Ya, gotta be something like that in there. Bowlsby sure as hell aint doing it.

          • Zack says:

            No he’s seems dead set on keeping the league the way it is. Which to be honest not expanding might be best. Add 2 teams and them not being power houses, is not going to bring more money. A conference title game would but only enough to justify adding one team, I think I saw that a conference title game might bring in $20 million but each team is making about $30 million currently.

          • j l says:

            i dont see us surviving without expanding. Which to be honest, is fine by me at this point.

            You dont want to add 2 weak teams, like you said, but thats about all thats out there.

            It took me a while to understand and accept it, but i think we were doomed after missing out on some ACC teams back in 2010/11.

        • PlayLikeaChampion says:

          The GOR argument will never hold its water in court. The state owns the university, so no state is giving that up. Sorry. Federal courts would never push that agenda.

          Boren is the squeaky wheel that needs grease because OU’s brand commands respect, but some peons in the Big12 are shallow minded. They can’t see the forest for the trees.

          OU in the B1G opens the door to 62M subscribers of the B1G Network. The LHN only has 8M. The SEC has 69M. The Big12 would be lucky to get 40M, but it can’t even contemplate such goal without Texas involved.

      • RocketCitySooner says:

        I do not understand why so many are so convinced that OU must continue to be affiliated with UT. Texas broke up the SW conference and the Big 12. Texas will not give up the LHN even if it means the end of the Big 12. Time for OU to leave. I would be happy with any conference OU selects as long as that conference will not take Texas as a member.

    • RocketCitySooner says:

      The man who wrote this article is woefully misinformed. A quote: “Point two. The University of Oklahoma needs to tell the Big 12 Conference that they are leaving the league and have asked for acceptance in either the Big Ten or the Southeastern Conference.” If the author had bothered to read the Big XII By Laws, he would know that such a statement by OU would cause OU to immediately lose all rights to all it’s sports revenues.

      • PlayLikeaChampion says:

        Try winning that in court. Bylaws mean nothing in court without a collective bargaining agreement or actual sold shares. It’s for show more than legal recourse.

  • Dre White says:

    Hey Jordan why isn’t ou going after Terrell Tank Love from heritage hall? I love the physical play and beastmode nature of the kid! What’s your thoughts?

    • Zack says:

      Relative of yours? I’ll look him up because I’m curious about local talent. Does he have hudl or YouTube highlights?

    • PlayLikeaChampion says:

      Too slow perhaps? His competition gives him a nice highlight reel, but having no breakaway speed at that level is a concern.

  • Chas Taylor says:

    What’s Bryce Youngquist’s status?

    • Zack says:

      Still no updates from what I can tell. I would just assume he’s not going to play football for ou and then if that changes it will be a nice surprise.

  • Dre White says:

    Yes he does! He wears #1 and has really good agility for a guy his size. Being recruited as a linebacker

    • Zack says:

      Seems like he has a better future at running back if he can become a bit faster. Some of his highlights he shows good speed, others he doesn’t show enough break away speed. Agility, vision and power seem to be there though.
      Looking at rivals I didn’t see any offers so it might be a good idea to go the Juco the route (even if he’s a full qualifier) because they might be able to provide a better platform than Heritage hall did, and he could leave after one year.

  • kokevo says:

    Whats a good recruiting website to watch highlights of local kids like mainly Oklahoma prospects?

  • PlayLikeaChampion says:

    No new news on Maxs Tupai after this weekend?

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    So who do we here from today? C Nelson or Daryl Wiiliams?

  • rphokc says:

    os………..”Instead of music I still say we should hang a famous criminal at halftime of Super Bowls.”

  • bigrackhunter says:

    Wade Phillips 3-4 defense is showing everyone how to shut down a mobile qb. His edge guys are pinning their ears back, to the point Newton knows what Ware and Miller ate for breakfast! Newton with the exception of a few nice runs is out of sync and looks more like the NFL version of Vince Young. What’s even more interesting we run this defense as well. Hopefully Mike has took few notes. Could come in handy for Houston, Ohio state, and Texas.

    • Clint Lenard says:

      Didn’t he even have 6 db’s out there at once? Heard one of the announcers mention it…thiught that sounded like a Mike Stoops thing.

    • PlayLikeaChampion says:

      They aren’t just pinning their ears back. They are containing him and collapsing the pocket with great containment in the middle. Mike Stoops tends to rush or blitz his defense around the back side giving the QB a running lane up the middle.

      • bigrackhunter says:

        Indeed they are playing fast, disciplined, and physical. Not to beat a dead horse but Mike likes

  • rphokc says:

    — well, didn’t see this outcome
    — good game, not great
    — hats off to denver d and von miller is terrific
    — good for manning……..now retire, please

  • Shelby is a Patriot says:

    congrats, Broncos fans. Happy for Manning, Ware, and Kubiak.

    • rphokc says:

      add pat bowlen……..guy has alzheimer’s but hope he can be aware of and enjoy this accomplishment

  • PlayLikeaChampion says:

    Wade Phillips didn’t have a job, then wins the Super Bowl with his defense.

  • rphokc says:

    and, no dapping from newton, I mean dabbing!

  • Shelby is a Patriot says:

    Seeing how the Panthers struggled against Denver’s defense makes me feel a lot better about the Pats loss to them. Their Defense is the real deal.

  • OU23 says:

    Breaking News: Bernie Sanders just announced that he s taking some of OU s championships and given them to Oklahoma State.

    • PlayLikeaChampion says:

      Kelly obviously wanted to be a Sooner and mom wanted him to be open to ND. Kelly’s passion for OU is what won out and mom saw that passion, which has to be a dealmaker, knowing her son will be with people just as passionate about him as he is about them. Great job Mike, Bob and Viney.

  • Sooner Ray says:

    Won a little money on the Super Bowl, all is good.

  • Bobolee says:

    Watching Von Miller tonight made me think of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv0SFtoeTPU
    Maybe one day

  • ElDusto99 says:

    I don’t follow recruiting as close as many of you. I’m sure this has been talked about before, but…
    Could having a kid commit as a junior be a disadvantage for teams sometimes. Kids love drama, and there’s not drama in being committed to a team for a year and then signing with them on NSD. That’s probably boring to a kid, and his twitter feed. It seems like it’s advantageous to be the shiny new toy that comes in late .