Open Post | Thursday, Jan. 28th (UPDATE 2:42 pm)

Chris Daniels: For the past week or so we’ve talked about how important the in-home visits will be for Chris Daniels. Texas did very well during their in-home visit two days ago, but Diron Reynolds and Dennis Simmons apparently did the same during their in-home last night.

I will be speaking with Daniels Sr. more extensively later today, but he did give me some of his initial thoughts last night in saying the visit reminded them why they’ve always liked OU and Coach Reynolds so much. In fact, Daniels Sr. said regarding his son’s feelings about coach Reynolds and OU, “he has always had OU in his heart…he feels Reynolds is the best, so it makes it harder (to decide).” Daniels Sr. also sent out the following tweet this morning.

I can tell you the Daniels family are very thoughtful about this process and, as I’ve been saying the past couple weeks, it’s going to come down to the wire.

Brandon feels OU has a slight lead, while I (Super K) think Texas is slightly ahead. At this point I won’t be surprised if he picks OU or Texas. In fact, the only thing that would surprise me is they chose a different school entirely as I feel it’s a very clear battle between the Sooners and the Longhorns. – (Super K)

Tramonda Moore: Just a quick note regarding the 2016 OT, as many of you who read TFB are aware the Sooners had been leading here for a while. In fact Moore himself admitted to that not long ago. However, in talking to some people, we are getting a sense that his coaches ties to Ok State are starting to change things. And right now, the Cowboys are looking like they are going to make this one difficult for the Sooners. – (Brandon & Super K)

– Jared Mayden: In case you haven’t noticed, Kerry Cooks can recruit. First years are always tough for coaches at a new school, even Jerry Montgomery didn’t really hit his stride until Year 2. But Cooks has come in and not only improved the secondary by leaps and bounds, he’s also put together a really good first class. Cooks now has the Sooners in the Top 2 with CB Jared Mayden, who will decide between Alabama and Oklahoma.

Cooks and Bob Stoops had their final in-home visit with Mayden last night, the latter of whom and I exchanged a few texts following said visit. One in particular I thought OU fans would get a kick out of with regards to the HC.

As most of you know, Mayden tweeted out a video of Saban doing “the wobble” dance during an in-home visit earlier this week. Mayden said in jest about Stoops, “I tried to get him to milly rock” but evidently Stoops wasn’t up to that challenge. We found video evidence that Stoops did at least attempt to dance! – (Alex and Super K)

https://twitter.com/MaydenII/status/692722505455259648

Zach Farrar: I spoke with a source last night to see where things stand with recent OU 2016 WR offer & Miss. St. commit, Zach Farrar (Southlake, TX). I had all but assumed a flip would potentially happen this weekend, but I was told there are people around Farrar that are encouraging him to stick with his current Mississippi State commitment.

The reasons being 1) MSU offered earlier and 2) he’s been told he will be allowed to play baseball there. I just wanted to make you all aware of this because as of yesterday, I really thought this one would be a done deal for OU once Farrar visited this weekend.

I still think the Sooners are hard to resist for someone so close, especially given the type of offense and quarterback play that Oklahoma has, but there is a little more suspense with this one than I had initially expected. – (Super K)

Joshua Jacobs: I spoke with the 2016 OK Preps prospect, whose recruitment has reached a white hot state in recent days, and wanted to give you all an update as to where things currently stand. As most of you know, Jacobs is an electric in-state athlete whose name only recently starting really started making the rounds. Earlier this week Bob Stoops, Lincoln Riley & Jay Boulware all visited his school, and Jacobs was offered shortly thereafter.

Likewise, Missouri also offered this week after their head coach, Barry Odom, and OC, Josh Heupel, as well as a couple other coaches came down to see Jacobs and do an in-home visit. This was actually Missouri’s third time visiting Jacobs in just the past two weeks.

Alabama’s running back coach, Burton Burns, also stopped by to see Jacobs yesterday. Burns told Jacobs that he wants to offer him, but he needs final approval from Nick Saban. So Jacobs is expecting to hear back from the Tide sometime today with regards to whether or not an offer will be extended.

The family is considering where they will visit this weekend but unlike the original plan which was to visit one school, they are actually looking at the possibility of fitting two shorter visits in over the weekend.

Right now, Missouri seems like a school they’d really like to visit. The family has realy built a good relationship with Missouri over the past couple weeks. They have not yet decided on whether they will take a trip to OU, but did say that Jacobs has been to Norman several times in the past.

It seems the plan right now is to give schools that haven’t offered the rest of the school day today and then later this evening figure out their plans as to where they’ll head this weekend. – (Super K)

– UPDATE (9:52 am): It’s brief, but we have video!

– UPDATE (12:07 pm):

https://twitter.com/hit_squad_4/status/692769741220495362

– UPDATE (2:05 pm): Good news just keeps on rolling in.

– UPDATE (2:42 pm):

610 Comments

  • David Raath says:

    Ouch. Painful Open Post.

  • disqus_MGlT3IoZ53 says:

    Moore has supposedly about a 1% to make it into school so i wont sweat it

  • Jordan Esco says:

    update added

  • SavageSoonerEsq says:

    I hope I’m wrong, but Daniels’ tweet feels like a consolation prize.

    • Jake says:

      I hear ya. I will say, I appreciate hearing a positive review about Diron “the recruiter” nonetheless.

    • Brian says:

      Not to mention that Chris hasn’t said anything about the visit…That or the kid is building the suspense.

  • bmrsnr says:

    Sounds like we are going to be in for a long NSD. Oh well, the last couple have been fun.

  • Sooner Scoop says:

    No bad news is good news. ?

  • Jake says:

    ATTENTION TFB: YOU HAVE OUR PERMISSION TO HIT THE BOOM BUTTON AT ANYTIME.

    (SOONER than later would be splendid)

    That is all… thank you.

  • Sooner Scoop says:

    It’s a good day when we still have all our current commits. Decommits sting. As for kids that are undecided, those are birds in a bush.

  • SoonerMagic76 says:

    Love to see Daniels come to this side of the Red River. Hope we close out well! I could have done without the video of Stoops dancing though..

  • Mark_in_VA says:

    The Jacobs situation has me the most discouraged. Absolutely hate to see Oklahoma kids OU wants go elsewhere.

    • Jake says:

      Could not agree more. That would be a huge bust

    • Lincoln Hawk says:

      I’m not discouraged yet, he went under the radar for everybody except Wyoming. He is a RB and Alabama just won a NC has been putting out great RB’s for a while, so I can definitely see why he is interested. Let’s see how it plays out and then maybe grumble a bit. I’m happy for the kid getting his due, no matter where he decides to go.

      • Super K says:

        Good comment Lincoln. Also, just a note he had a few offers…Wyoming, North Texas and a few others (can’t recall them). He earned his North Texas offer at a camp this past summer.

  • RocketCitySooner says:

    I don’t understand this: “In fact, Daniels Sr. said regarding his son’s feelings about coach Reynolds and OU, “he has always had OU in his heart…he feels Reynolds is the best, so it makes it harder (to decide).””

    Sounds like that should make it easier to decide unless the tilt is to UT.

    • Jake says:

      Hey man, if you’re a Texas native and all your friends are going to UT… That’s pretty tough to overcome. Texas, with all it’s problems, has major appeal for a variety of reasons. Like I’ve said before, they do an excellent job of making you forget all the negativity surrounding their football program.

      • Jake says:

        Not to mention. Between the prior relationships with the coaching staff and his friends being in Texas. He’s kind of being “that guy” by turning Texas down. That’s guilt trip city for an 18-year old.

      • RocketCitySooner says:

        I certainly understand the attraction UT has to Texas recruits. My point was the quote was inconsistent.

        • Jake says:

          For sure. I think they are naturally gravitating towards “staying home”. So, at least we’re “making it difficult” for them to make the easier/comfortable decision to stay.

      • RocketCitySooner says:

        Friends don’t let their friends go to UT.

        • Jake says:

          Lol, well said. You’ve gotta open your eyes to the Texas Football reality first. Otherwise you’ll allow yourself to get caught up in the “prestige” and women.

    • cush creekmont says:

      Maybe he means for HIM since he is the friend of texsa and not his son.

    • Eric Hutton says:

      I don’t understand this whole situation. I would be utterly shocked if he didn’t sign with UT. Amazing they can come in so late and score with him. I can’t believe that he doesn’t realize that he is only a back up plan for them because they didn’t go after him sooner like OU did! Hopefully I’m wrong and he comes to Norman?

    • Tim A says:

      I thought the exact same thing. Sounds like a UT lean for sure..

    • Jed says:

      As I see it, he can go to UT and probably see the field faster, judging from talent in the barn down there
      Or he can come to OU and play with a better unit with better chances to win.

      If he’s as good as projected, he should be able to fight through competition…in which case OU would be arguably the better choice.

      We will see in a week.

    • Super K says:

      There is a lot they like about Texas as well.

  • Fear The Magic says:

    You all know the saying “If you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all”
    So, this is what I have to say………………………………………………………………..

  • Cedarsooner says:

    It looks like we are in 2nd place on a lot of recruits. The Miss Congeniality award is awkward.

  • Exiled In Ohio says:

    Recruiting has gotten ridiculous. When you have coaches like Stoops and Saban having a dance off to try to win a commitment, something has gone way wrong!

    • ellisbr says:

      I completely agree…you put the facts about the program out there and what you expect from the kid, what he can expect from you, and let them decide if they want to play at your school. This dancing, climbing trees, slumber party stuff needs to end

    • SoonerSouthoftheRed says:

      Was just thinking that very thing.

    • Cory Pedersen says:

      Has gotten? What do you think they did back in the day??? There just wasn’t as good of technology!

      • Exiled In Ohio says:

        I haven’t followed recruiting closely for all that long, but it seems to me that this year is way worse than previous ones in regard to de-commitments and kids doing visits after commitment. The 17/18-year-old kids really enjoy getting major college coaches to dance for them (both figuratively and I’m afraid literally).

        • Cory Pedersen says:

          I hear ya on that… I’m just saying, all the “under the table” type stuff that went on back in the 70s and 80s when there were less restrictions and eyes, man…. There was shady stuff.

          Probably still is… But I’m willing to bet Switzer did a dance or two for a few guys as well 😉

    • Super K says:

      Can’t say I disagree but I guarantee you Switzer would have danced…he would’ve initiated the dance…would have taken dance lessons…would’ve worn a shimmering glove and moonwalked if need be…and he would’ve owned it haha.

    • NM Sooner says:

      I wonder how Bear Bryant would react to being told to dance ?….lol

  • SoonerBredCD says:

    Youngquist is no longer going to sign with OU. Don’t know the details, but that’s the word. Maybe Super K can enlighten us. It sure seems that we are snake bitten as we head down the stretch.

  • Rene Goupillaud says:

    None of what you wrote in this open post seems reasonable except the part about Farrar.

    1) Has always liked OU and thinks Diron is the best which makes the decision hard. Duh? Sounds to me like that should make it easier, especially since he was once committed and hadn’t heard from Texas until recently.

    2) Bob did or didn’t dance, but Saban danced for them. Sounds like a key difference on which to make a serious decision that could affect one’s life. Guess if I were being recruited, I’s have the coaches do a hot dog eating contest and sign with the coach who ate the most in 30 minutes.

    3) An electric athlete who suddenly became white hot, right under our noses. We just noticed him and when Alabama saw that, they rushed in too, but kid and family may be attached to Mizzou and it’s new coaching staff including recently hired fired OU OC. So much in this that just sounds questionable.

    Only way Daniels picks Texas in this situation is if it’s his dream school, in which case he’s theirs.

    You can bet we knew of any electric in state athlete yet didn’t offer him until late. Clearly we had preferred targets. Alabama going around scavaging for late commits.. So his choice is go to a losing program or go to an elite program as a late offer, probably at the very bottom of the depth chart where he’d have to prove himself.

    This is the silliness of recruiting. Just one question, have you ever asked a prospective employer to dance for you during a job interview? I doubt it. I read it as a family that’s already made their decision.

    • Jordan Esco says:

      As you seemed to allude to at the end, if you’re looking for reason when it comes to recruiting then you’re already starting off on the wrong foot.

      With regards to your analogy about dancing in a job interview, I’d like to believe you realize that’s not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison.

      • Rene Goupillaud says:

        Unless Jared has made a decision, it is very much like a job interview as Jared should be as interested in selling himself to Bob as Bob is to him. Bob knows Jared has choices, but certainly Jared knows Bob has choices too.

        Sadly, recruiting is out of control. When ND parks their equipment truck in front af a recruits house, with no consideration for the rest of the neighborhood, it’s out of control. These coaches are supposed to be developing youngsters, not creating inflated egos.

  • In regards to Joshua Jacobs, being from North Tulsa as I am myself, I can understand why he would want to go further away from home when it comes to College, if that’s what he ends up deciding to do. Coming from North Tulsa is a hard thing to do and if this kid decides to move away from those influences so that he can better himself and potentially do something to better his family, I respect that 100%. I salute any young man who wants to rid himself of something or someone that hinders him instead of help him. I’ll be praying that his decision is one that is best for HIM and HIS family! #918BornandRaised

    • BigJoeBrown says:

      I grew up in South Tulsa, you are corrent there is a big difference. If he is really wanting to get away, Mizzou would be the choice.

      • Lincoln Hawk says:

        I grew up in Tulsa/BA and went to OU, Norman is drastically different than North Tulsa. But if he needs to distance himself further due to other influences/people than I would 100% understand.

    • rainydaze114 says:

      I grew up in east Tulsa, which isn’t nearly what north Tulsa is, although it has deteriorated over the years. I understand full well what the feeling is to want to get as far away as possible.

      • Malicong says:

        From the eastside as well. Nearly everyone I grew up with and their parents moved a long time ago.

        • Tom Turman says:

          East Tulsa is the new North Tulsa. For that matter, West Tulsa isn’t all that great, and South Tulsa is starting to get infiltrated. It’s almost to the point that you can’t live in Tulsa at all. You have to move to a suburb, and even now places like Broken Arrow, Jenks, Owasso and Bixby are seeing an increase in crime. Borderline epidemic.

          • Hooknladder says:

            You are missing a key ingredient- it is NO longer only economic, it is SOCIETY WIDE. It is in EVERY strata of society. It is a lowering of standards across the board. Ask any teacher who’s been in the game over 20 years.

    • Hooknladder says:

      Norman is quite different than either North, or East Tulsa- BTW every big city has it’s “areas.” None of it even remotely compares w/ East St Louis, or South Side of Chicago.

    • Gladdman says:

      Marquis, are you in the OU Club of Tulsa? If not, we would love to have you.

  • Jake says:

    Guys, I know there are a ton of charades involved with recruiting. But if you think Mayden is basing his decision to commit on whether Bob or Nick dances better, you’re fooling yourself. They’re just having a good time with the coaches that are visiting them.

    It’s trivial and silly crap, but they aren’t having a dance-off for a commitment. They’re just “shootin’ the crap” with these coaches for the last time.

    R-E-L-A-X
    Signed,
    Not Aaron Rodgers

    • Exiled In Ohio says:

      Do you really think BS danced for fun? I just don’t believe it’s his basic personality to do that. Maybe if Chip was the one there he might have enjoyed it.

      • Jake says:

        Bob is a good sport & if the kid wants him to “bust a move”, he’s not gonna be a scrooge & tell him to fly a kite.

        Recruiting is about CONNECTING. Different personalities have to find a common ground. These kids are talked out & ready to have fun again. We should be happy that Bob isn’t a doucher about this kind of stuff, but instead seizes the opportunity to make a kid feel comfortable/liked.

      • Jake says:

        I’m sure Bob is not the dancing type, as well. But again, it’s really all in good fun for bonding sake.

    • Brien Brown says:

      So that means no discount double check? ?

      • Jake says:

        Get outta here, Brien! Ha. How you doing, brother?

        • Brien Brown says:

          Doing well man! Would be doing better without all the negative bs on here the last few days thankfully signing day is 5 days away. How you doing.

          • Jake says:

            Blessed, man- thanks! I’m totally with you. It’s pretty sad to see 150 new names emerge on the discussion board when things are “at the worst” (contingent on signing day results) in the recruiting world. Always amazes me to see the trolls awaken and make their presence felt.

  • CallmeH says:

    Recruiting is the slutty aspect of CFB.

    • Oscar says:

      Coaches now have to dance, sing a diddy, hop like a bunny, and make their funniest face to appease the recruits. Only then are they (recruits) able to decide where to further their education.

  • Jason Vos says:

    I hope there are no crybabies today. Lets save the whining and complaining until after signing day. Right now no one knows for sure whats going to happen, let it all play out and then the crying can start or not.

    OU has always closed strong in recruiting, and I think we do so again this year

  • Indy_sooner says:

    Re: Reynolds

    Sooners Moving on to that #NextLevel @Takeflightchuck , Striker. #SeniorBowl #NFL #RUSHMEN #OUDNA Who's Next? pic.twitter.com/5h7PikzoBc— Diron Reynolds (@Coach_Diron) January 26, 2016

  • bjwalker82 says:

    I can read between the lines for Daniels. His Longhorn teammates should give him crap for baking an OU cake and then changing his mind. Wouldn’t you?

  • Malicong says:

    I’m done. Getting really frustrating that people can’t wait to jump on the negative news and gloss over the positive. I am officially checking out until next week. Try not to hurt each other.

  • Rick says:

    Bolton, DeBerry, Tay Evans, Hunter?, McGinnis, Parker?, Owkoronkwo, Rodriguez? (?=I’m not really familiar with the name, don’t even know if scolly players or not) These guys just rose on the depth chart at LBU, several are very good, talented players, some I don’t know. Doucet is a talented CC LB coming in. I still think Kelly will be like Mark Andrews was coming in when everyone was suprised when he exclaimed he didn’t even really consider anyone but OU. Who knows, maybe Youngquist works out whatever is keeping him from signing. I don’t think OU will put a team on field next year without LB’s, even if they bring a bigger safety or 2 up to play the outside. Something will work!

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      You didn’t even list our two JUCO guys coming in. We have numbers, just need some of them to work out. We need to go about 6 deep at linebacker probably, not counting guys playing on special teams.

      • Rick says:

        I did mention Doucet, just not Beal. Nothing against Beal, I just don’t know anything about him yet. I don’t think he would have gotten an offer if it weren’t deserved. I do think Doucet is the real deal. I happen to think with reps OUr inside guys will be better than the ones leaving. It’s the outside guys I don’t know about. Like I said a big safety and some OLB’s are close to the same size. Do you know anything about the ?’s I listed, I don’t know much about them.

        • BoomerDave says:

          Beal’s coach said yesterday that Beal was as good as any linebacker he has ever coached.

          • Rick says:

            That’s good to know. Usually the JUCO dudes don’t really get a good shake from the services, so one really doesn’t know what to think, I do trust Kish evaluating the guys. I am really looking forward to seeing some of these young guys on the field.

  • OceanDescender says:

    That’s good to hear about coach Diron! Keep up the good work TFB!!

  • OUknowitscomin says:

    I kind of look at wanting to visit Mizz as a decent sign that he would like to stay somewhat close to home & that it may eliminate others more so. We’ll see.

  • KJ1123 says:

    Diron putting in some work. I saw him out in Miami wearing just a t-shirt and he is JACKED. Another reason why the guys look up to him.

  • Lincoln Hawk says:

    He’s not a Sooner but some of us could surely use this…
    https://twitter.com/CMccaffrey5/status/692586703366680576

  • Zack says:

    I kinda wish people in the know would release the full info about youngquist. Releasing very little leaves everyone to speculate.

    • KJ1123 says:

      It has been quiet…but honestly I think it’s just totally shut down…recruiting wise. Just waiting until Wed morning to send in the paperwork.

      • Brad Warren says:

        Que? No comprende.

      • Brad Warren says:

        He’s wondering what in the hell actually happened with Youngquist – obviously recruiting isn’t shut down – we’ve still got home visits going on

        • KJ1123 says:

          He still has home visits going on? With other schools?

          • cush creekmont says:

            KJ – I think he is talking about OUr visit with Kelly and others that are still upcoming. Youngquist deal will be revealed by his family this weekend – perhaps the coaches knew about this and expanded to some of the later recruits.

          • KJ1123 says:

            OH ok I got you Cush. Yeah I dont know I haven’t heard anything about Youngquist not signing. If someone leaked something on a different site thats another story, also trusting that info as well. If it’s an admission issue OU will bust their butts to get him enrolled. I don’t think it’s a change of heart issue….but who knows. Que went through an admission issue last year and still got signed. Also as everyone knows, he doesn’t have to sign on signing day. Just hope it’s nothing serious.

          • cush creekmont says:

            KJ – it is quoted as being “personal” and that he will not sign with any school. Some spot said his parents will comment this weekend. Otherwise it is conjecture about speculation.

          • KJ1123 says:

            Thanks Cush.

          • Brad Warren says:

            Hey bud, what cush said.

          • KJ1123 says:

            Got it sorry for the confusion.

    • Brad Warren says:

      I cut and pasted statement off ou insider – obviously it was deleted. It said the family would release a statement at later date.

    • Stephen woods says:

      I’ve been away working, guess i missed this. What is the deal with Youngquist?

    • Kody K. says:

      What’s up Zack? Which way are you hedging your bet on Kelly? The suspense is going to be fun!

    • jimintexas says:

      If it is medical, there are laws that can control what you say.

  • BigJoeBrown says:

    IMO….I think the kid out of Tulsa Victory Christian, Jon Michael Terry is going to be the underrated pick up of this class.

  • SamSooner says:

    Someone screamed “SALE!!!” and it got chaotic, I see. I’ll see all of you tomorrow. I have little tolerance for irrational behavior. I’m done for the day. Peace be with you all, my friends.

  • Mr. Jones says:

    Why is it that everyone says making the playoff helps you more in the following recruiting class as opposed to the current class? I don’t understand why this would have a huge effect on current prospects. Maybe someone can enlighten me.

    • BigJoeBrown says:

      Shows your program is headed in the right direction and one of the top 4 in the nation.

    • J.r. Kamm says:

      Most have already made up their minds by January.

    • J J says:

      Also many recruits had already narrowed down quite & a but made significant in roads with other staffs by mid Nov when OU made biggest strides in CFPp

    • Brad Warren says:

      I think the consensus is that it’s more likely to be reflected in 2017 class.

      • Maranatha846 says:

        Not if you don’t have a successful season in 16. With the way kids flip flop OU better take advantage of the 15 season.

        • Rick says:

          I don’t think they are “not taking advantage”, we have at home visits going on, we have a few w/e visits, heck we even have Stoops dancing for a recruit. They are OUt there trying. Remember some of the offers have nothing to do at all with the success of the program.

        • Rick says:

          I don’t think they are “not taking advantage”, we have at home visits going on, we have a few w/e visits, heck we even have Stoops dancing for a recruit. They are OUt there trying. Remember some of the offers have nothing to do at all with the success of the program.

  • j l says:

    Glad that bob is doing whatever he can do within his power to get kids to come here, if we miss on these kids, wont be due to lack of effort.

    Really hope youngquist/ his family are ok, would hurt to lose someone of his potential, but gotta do whats best for them. Wish them the best either way.

  • BoomerDave says:

    I see Daniels’ Sr’s tweet about Reynolds as the kiss of death. To me, it’s saying “I think you are the most amazing guy in the world, but I think we should both see other people”. Not a psychologist, but 60+ years of life experiences tell me that this is not going to end well for OU. I hope I am wrong and if I am I will be the first to happily admit I was wrong (unlike someone who shall forever remain nameless to me). It just looks to me that Sr is starting the process of letting OU down easily.

    • Gregor says:

      That’s how it read to me, as well. It smacked of doubt and remorse. Like he fears that deep down he should follow this great role model, but he has kind of made up his mind to take the risk that Strong will even be there in a year.

    • MoJoOkie says:

      If he wants immediate playing time he will likely go with saxet. Personally that will not be the right coarse for development, but sometimes shiny objects are enough.

  • BoomerDave says:

    Damn, just tell Farrar he can play baseball and wrap this baby up!!

  • Corey says:

    All is good in Sooner land! We got a great team waiting to do work in 2016!

    Baker
    Perine
    Mixon
    Anderson
    Dede
    Baxter
    Quick
    Mead
    Todd
    Andrews

    Walker
    Ward
    Overton
    Gallimore
    Evans
    Arthur
    DeBerry
    Parker
    Thomas A
    Thomas J
    Austin

    Seibert
    Ross

  • Jordan Esco says:

    update added

  • Rick says:

    Kish OUt being a lousy coach and recruiter again.
    https://twitter.com/hit_squad_4/status/692769741220495362

  • Jeff says:

    It will suck if Texass out recruits on in 2016

  • SoonerinLondon says:

    The sky is falling.

  • j l says:

    Is there something wrong with the mobile version of the site? I see my comment i posted earlier on the PC version, but its missing when i look at the mobile version.

  • Mr. Jones says:

    When is the first Jr. Day? Is it Saturday?

    • Doobie74OU says:

      It is this weekend not sure if Sat or Sun

      • Mr. Jones says:

        Haven’t seen a visitor list yet but hopefully we can snag a commit over the weekend. I think TFB reported that Okudah will be there so that’s huge in and of itself.

  • rphokc says:

    re jacobs and why overlooked, fwiw, via oui poster…..

    “Here was the info from James in that thread – “Coach Jacobs feels that Joshua flew under the radar because they held him out of about half of his junior year because of a shoulder injury, and then he moved to quarterback his senior year and switched his number from 28 to 8. Many coaches of told Coach Jacobs that they couldn’t find number 28 so they didn’t spend much time looking at the rest of his film.”

    • KJ1123 says:

      Makes sense, Samia was under the radar because he only went to one national camp after his Jr year I think. And he didn’t start his recruiting until late. Jacobs is a really nice find.

      • rphokc says:

        so coaches didn’t ask questions when they couldn’t find 28…….comical if true, but it also shows coaches from somewhere were looking for him……on same board, fwiw, read that riley found out about him on tip from coach somewhere else……..coach jacobs is kids father?, if so, makes it stranger

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      das no bueno

    • OU23 says:

      That article is too negative. The author acts like the “sky is falling.” He’s “irrational,” no wait a “troll” blah, blah, blah, rinse, repeat same old stuff every day. /s It’s not the school or coaches that’s hurting us, it’s the lack of talent wanting to play in the conference.

      • BamaSooner#12! says:

        Not to mention that CBS Sports is quick to bash the Big 12 since it doesn’t hold a television contract to broadcast Big 12 games. CBS Sports and it’s partner 247Sports is all about hyping up the SEC all day every day.

  • Kanfdog says:

    What is the deal with Ryan Parker? Did he officially decommitt and open up his recruiting?

    • Brian says:

      No decommitment, just has some work to do in the classroom.

      • Kanfdog says:

        He is no longer listed as a commit on ESPN and Rivals. In fact ESPN says he decommitted in January of 2016.

    • Rick says:

      I just went to his twitter page. He is having academic problems. He still considers himself a Sooner, and says he has been told he has time to fix whatever problems he has. I don’t have any official OU info, just what is on twitter.

  • Gary Robbins says:

    Are all, some, or any of the below in for ov’s this weekend? Have you heard of any more?
    Zach Farr
    Mark Jackson
    Maxs Tupai
    Joshua Jacobs
    Jauan Williams
    Erik Swenson
    Kapri Doucet
    Braxton Pickard

  • Jake says:

    Seems accurate, no?

  • Jake says:

    Atta’ boy, Chip.

    Life is CHOICES, CHANCES, & CHANGES… Make a CHOICE to take a CHANCE or your life will never CHANGE! Be a Sooner! pic.twitter.com/GyQ8NUlybV— Chip Viney (@OU_CoachViney) January 28, 2016

    • cush creekmont says:

      Good deal for the young man! His is very light. I hope he gets some bulk before North Texas throws him out in Non-Conf against P5 schools.

    • BigJoeBrown says:

      Really, really cool for an Oklahoma kid. It’s always a good deal when you see a kid get the opportunity to go to the next level.

    • Maverick says:

      This is awesome. Wished he’d have come to OU! We (now) like short qb’s with a chip on their shoulder.

    • Brien Brown says:

      Same kid i said 2-3 days ago that OU should give an walk-on offer too!

    • Kelly Gurbcock says:

      all Boren can do is talk, nothing will happen. it sucks, OUr hands are tied. Only one thing can help it though. Whoop that UTerus ass on the field.

    • Rick says:

      I don’t often agree with anything that comes out of Boren’s mouth, but I like this.

    • KatyOUdad says:

      As soon as UTerus says they are not changing the LNN, Boren should get the lawyers working on getting out of the Big 12. While the lawyers are at work, call the other P5 conferences and see who is ready to add OU. Then, either Texas comes to the table or OU moves on. Otherwise nothing is going to change.

      • Kelly Gurbcock says:

        he should’ve been doing that anyways. they’ve basically already said they won’t do it. think about it, would you want to split a piece of that pie? no way.

        • KatyOUdad says:

          Agree, just tried of the talk. Time to force their hand.

        • Mark_in_VA says:

          Until we are prepared to sever with okie st., nothing’s going to happen. If we do, suddenly, we’re in the driver’s seat.

  • Maverick says:

    We were all wondering about LB offers, at least if there’s something to the Youngquist stuff it will answer part of those questions.

  • Jordan Esco says:

    update added

  • RBear says:

    Jo-juh bound?

  • Maverick says:

    Meh, can always use quality depth, but if our current OT’s stay 4 years, I’ll be really happy with that situation for the next 3.

    • Furr-Sure says:

      I agree that the OL looks good going forward.

      But OU won’t be a national title contender unless they improve quality depth. At just about every position.

      • Maverick says:

        We were a contender last year. With Freshman OT’s.

        • Furr-Sure says:

          My point was overall quality depth.

          For instance QB (after Baker), WR (after Sterling and Dede), DL (struggled vs Clemson as the game went on since Walker was hurt), and LB (struggled vs. Clemson after Evans went out)

          • Maverick says:

            Yeah and I agree with you that quality depth is important. But we were definitely contenders last year, and it’s hard to compare anyone with Bama right now. Throw them out and we have about as much depth as everyone else.

          • Furr-Sure says:

            Well Bama sure, but even other elite teams like Clemson and Ohio State do that.

            I mean Notre Dame made it to the Fiesta Bowl after having tons of injuries last season

            Obviously it takes time to get there and I’m optimistic about some of the recruits coming in. The OL is definitely improving

          • cush creekmont says:

            I understand, yet I think you would be more accurate to say WIN an NC, since we certainly competed for one by making the final four – a hundred and twenty odd teams did not.

  • Rene Goupillaud says:

    Recruiting, like political campaigns, goes on too long. It is foolish to watch 50 year old men swoon over kids who either play the game or are so indecisive they aren’t ready for college anyway. The system should encourage, no demand, that kids grow up. We have 18 and 19 year olds in war zones making life or death decisions and a football player who has been recruited for several months if not years can’t make a decision. Frankly, this is the second worst thing about college football, behind the ridiculous money that’s spent on it, and it’s only going to get worse until many current fans can’t afford to go to games.

    • SoonerOracle737 says:

      Some of us watch the Hallmark channel and it makes us feel better. You should try it sometime. 🙂

    • Rick says:

      My son is often in a war zone, he says there is no greater joy for him to be able to download the youtube vid of the latest FB game. It’s something that all his buds and he looks forward to. There is a lot of money in college football, I don’t know if it’s too much. The money that is generated by OU’s football team is able to fully fund the programs and a portion of the overage goes back to the general fund to help keep the costs lower. I don’t think that’s a bad thing. I can’t speak to that of all soldiers, but I know 1 and his buds, they don’t think the money spent is ridiculous. It’s money spent helping them have some normal healthy off time in a region that is not normal or healthy.

  • Robert Boone says:

    Switzer would tell recruits that they have a choice, “play for us and win, or play against us and lose.” Wish it was that simple today.

  • Matt says:

    I don’t want to lose Bryce….

  • Brien Brown says:

    So I have fully established that I can count on Maverick, RBear, Zack, Kelly, Rick, Cush, Jake, and Golfluver to be on here regardless. Rather they always see things my way or not they all seem to be open minded and have mostly positive outlooks. EastTex and a few other regulars seem to take a break during this time thanks to the trolls. I know fully well that most seem to get frustrated with my glass is half full outlook but, that’s how i choose to be. Cause no matter who we sign I will I still be a Sooner fan, I will embrace any kid that we get as long as they come in wanting to be a Sooner and they act and play like one. Yea it suck we miss out a few kids but, I am not sold on the fact that we can’t compete without a said impact class look at Stoops through the years we still do well. Anyone really want to go back to the Blake and Gibbs era’s? Not I. The sun will set today and will rise again tomorrow and life will carry on and if you love the Sooners you will no matter who we get. BOOMER!!!!

    • Brien Brown says:

      EDITED!!!

    • Kelly Gurbcock says:

      this post is too happy and makes my butt hurt. (you know what you signed up for when you decided to read my comment, don’t be mad.)

    • 47 Straight OU Know says:

      Well now I know how you really feel about some of us. SOONER!!!!!!

      • Brien Brown says:

        OK, I am talking about the regulars that normally either agree or disagree with me lol! I am not use to all of you yet lol! But there is a lot of out of the blue troll posters this time of the year!

        • 47 Straight OU Know says:

          Been here for a while,usually comment in the morning time. And watch from a distance after that. Ask anyone on here what my key phrase is or you can go check for yourself.

          • Brien Brown says:

            I will guess since it’s in the morning it’s something to the affect of? Morning or Good Morning lol,!

          • 47 Straight OU Know says:

            No just try and let everyone know “It’s always a great day to be a SOONER”!!!!

          • Brien Brown says:

            Well to that I can not disagree!

          • 47 Straight OU Know says:

            Ok, I will go back to watching from afar until morning.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            Hey, I know you. You’re that “Great day to be a Sooner” guy!

          • Brien Brown says:

            And I forgot Sooner Ray but thought you was gonna be taking a break as well!

          • Sooner Ray says:

            I am, doesn’t mean I’m not keeping up. 🙂

          • Brien Brown says:

            I think we lost dhuntersanchez though he has been MIA for a bit as has EasTex

          • Brien Brown says:

            this has been edited as well

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            I saw him on here a couple of days ago, maybe it was the negative nellies that sent him away. I think next year I am taking the entire month of January off, after OU wins the natty of course!

          • Brien Brown says:

            In the words of Joe Dirt “RIGHT ON”

          • 47 Straight OU Know says:

            Thats me. No matter what,well unless they bring back Schnelly.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            I sat at some of those games, as well as Blake. Didn’t change my Sooner status one bit, although I wasn’t always in a good mood. 🙂

          • 47 Straight OU Know says:

            Now dont get me wrong. I still loved em but him not so much. But i can say that he is the only coach to have not lost nor won against Texsa in OU Football History.

          • Defend Colfax says:

            …because Stansbury was in.

          • 47 Straight OU Know says:

            HAHaHa, Could have been some pipe smoke got in his eye!!

          • Gary Robbins says:

            Been around here for a while. Don’t post all the time but read every day just about. Dec. 2014 to July 2015 was out of town working and didn’t post much but read every day. I was upset about OU recruiting this time last year and it all turned out OK. There’s nothing I can do about it and gripping just runs my blood pressure up. Then I need something to drink and that doesn’t help. Rant over and “happy hour is here for me.

      • Golfluvr13 says:

        LOL! 47, I still care about ya! 🙂

    • Jake says:

      I went Ape-Crazy over this post. Bravo, Brien! I’d like to argue with a glass half-empty guy. yOU cannot convince me that the glass is not half-full. Facts are facts ;]

      • Brien Brown says:

        It is a matter of perception and perhaps how one views their own life but, I am not perfect nor am I well off but, I am better than most and have my health so I must be doing pretty good!

        • Jake says:

          Right on. And you know what, i THOROUGHLY appreciate our TFB Mods for not blowing smoke up our butts. They tell it how it is, even though they know unpopular news is highly unattractive.

          They’re the real deal.

      • Tim A says:

        The glass is both half-empty and half-full at the same time – by definition.

    • Golfluvr13 says:

      SOONER! Amen brother! And we don’t always have to agree, but we are almost always positive when we disagree. Carry on!

    • Jed says:

      I agree with your attitude. Negativity has no place here. We can be in favor of improvement without being all twisted about it.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      I choose to keep my glass full so I don’t have to worry about it being half full or half empty

    • Slim Sooner says:

      SOONER!! Hello gentlemen. Looks like the sun came out this afternoon and it’s safe to come aboard.

    • Scott says:

      I’ve always stay positive. Don’t forget Sanchez.

    • Defend Colfax says:

      I appreciate the positivety, this board gets carried away. As a die hard sooner fan, I am here for the ups and downs. Stoops is a great coach I am happy with him. I think he a great fit for OUr program. Could someone else do better? Of course. I never understand why people go back to the Gibbs and Blake era like that is OUr only other history. On top of every other unmatched accolade, no other school has 4 coaches with over 100 wins. Which means coaches have more success here than anywhere else. We should always expect success and titles. The Gibbs and Blake era was barely a blip. Let it die.

      • Brien Brown says:

        Well yea I get it was a blip but that’s why I ask do they want to return to that time. I feel some get too carried away when they say 10 wins is not cutting it well I am pretty sure I would take 10 wins a year vs some of those years those guys had is all!

    • soonersd says:

      I am forever lurking … all day erryday and appreciate all the posters you mentioned, as well as, the entire TFB staff/community. Here’s to closing strong on Feb 3rd gentleman (and ladies). Boomer!

    • Hotrod33 says:

      Brien,
      I would love to be on here more to discuss everything that goes on. I can’t post at work but can read everything what people say. Some people take this was too seriously. I understand it is the future of the program but there is nothing we can do. We have to trust the coaches and let them do their jobs. I know that when I wake up in the morning no recruit is going to affect me at all.

  • Jordan Esco says:

    update added

  • soonersd says:

    1st after update!

  • j l says:

    Williams cant make it due to weather im guessing?

  • Gary Robbins says:

    Anyone had a chance to look at Erik Swenson the ot coming in for ov this weekend. He is listed at 6-7/305. Pretty big old boy-no make that a man.

  • Rick says:

    I hope someone tells Coker to get his passes down, before his best receiver gets hurt.

    https://twitter.com/ChaseGoodbread/status/692810766454542336

    • Golfluvr13 says:

      That was a horrible pass!

      • Birddawg says:

        Trust me… Nfl scouts saw that and said
        1) That coker dude almost injured the best wr in the draft.. what a dick
        2) That coker dude could easily injure one of my wrs…
        uhhhh
        Pass.

    • Scott says:

      Why is Coker their , he is terrible.

      • cush creekmont says:

        He is “their” QB – their being SEC SEC SEC and Bama – living on that rep

        • Slim Sooner says:

          Right. He’s there to represent the SEC and Bama because of their recent NC that they’re rightfully so proud of, but that pass was wicked bad. It’s a good thing Shep is tough

      • BoomerDave says:

        He played lights out in their last 3 games. He definitely deserves to be there.

    • rphokc says:

      I hope shep has a great nfl career but I do worry about his size/durability….he’s never been hit like he will be

      • Rick says:

        There was a recent article about his size and durability. I can’t find it right now, I think I read it a day or two ago, might have been day one of Sr. Bowl week. The NFL scout, liked his size and durability, and reported dude was tough.

        • rphokc says:

          lot of nfl receivers bigger than him get clocked going over the middle and have trouble getting up…..serious business, that nfl…..hope he gets some pointers from broyles/clayton et al to learn the ropes

      • Framoka says:

        Coker would get it down if he could :).

    • Andrew says:

      Sure left Shep out there to get hurt….poor throw in my opinion!

  • Framoka says:

    Think about this (ratio’s may not be right; something like this may have been written already). Say I need 4-5 LB’s. I’ve offered 12 LB’s. My top choice is giving nothing but good vibes and I’ve got 4-5 others with very good communication and feel great. I push for commitments and 2 of the 5 at the top commit. Just need two more. I’ve slowed down communication with the bottom half of my board and the non-offers I’m scouting. I’m not looking around much for new prospects to scout because I feel great about these players!!. As NSD draws near, the vibes start to get shaky, rumors are flying, other schools are needing LB’s also and guys are looking around. Then one of my commits has potential grade issues. Texas, ND, LSU, are poaching some of my board. NSD is two weeks away, what now? It looks like I might get 1 or 2 (or none) of my 12 offers and I need 4-5 LB’s. Its back to work finding whatever I can find because I need 4-5 LB’s. Juco, 2 star, I need 4-5 LB’s. Now I’m in late on players; my board might be ruined. My point is you NEVER (or very rarely) can be certain some of these young men will sign. Family, HS coaches, other college coaches, friends all weigh in and there’s no way the coach who’s trying to recruit the players can know all that’s going on. Just my opinion.

    • Randy says:

      Couple of options that will stop or at least slow this down :

      Join the SEC (get GREAT 3, 4* and top of the line 5* kids EVERY YEAR, pick and choose National (TEXAS) recruits)

      Join the Pac 12 (get GREAT California recruits, pick and chose Texas recruits)

      Join the Big 10 (be happy with recruits who dont want to go to OSU, Michigan, Texas recruiting would stop more than it has already.. see Nebraska.. again NEBRASKA)

      Have ND and Cincinnati join the Big 12. (helps the Big 12, all of the Big 12). National perception for the conference would be at a all time high and should be like it or not ND is a National brand.

      Have Central Florida and Memphis join the Big 12 ( helps get the conference in the doors of more talent in Florida and Tennessee. But wont help the National perception of the conference as a whole.

      • SoonerfanTU says:

        There is a -47% chance of ND joining the Big 12.

        • Gary Robbins says:

          Wow you mean we have a chance, then I seen the minus sign. lol

        • DrewChubbs says:

          Exactly. IF ND ever decides to join a conference, their recent arrangement with the ACC has pretty much all but guaranteed that that is where they’ll end up. At least, if they decide to do so in the next decade or so, and barring any major re-alignment surprises.

        • Randy says:

          “Soo, your saying there’s a chance”….

  • Mr. Jones says:

    3 crystal balls for Swenson to OU in the last hour; all from BIG10 guys.

  • Dave Wilkins says:

    Anybody got the lowdown on my Michigan pulled Swenson’s offer? Looks like its gonna be a nice get for the sooners regardless.

  • Coach JK says:

    Do we have a visitors list for this weekend?

  • j l says:

    Is swenson the kid who got his scholly pulled by harbaugh?

    • JY says:

      Would absolutely be a steal this late in the game. Bedenbaugh shows huge ability to finish. See Orlando Brown two years ago.

      • cush creekmont says:

        Thanks for the info! I am heading to Hudl to see.

      • Gary Robbins says:

        Thanks, was hoping somebody had looked at his Hudl. I viewed it but he just seemed to maul everybody. Had long arms.

      • Coach JK says:

        JY, whats the story on him and Michigan?

        • Gary Robbins says:

          Don’t remember the whole story but he was committed before Harbaugh come in, I think . Seems like they had a couple others who Harbaugh liked better. Evidently he was told no room for him.Maybe a little karma didn’t Jordan Elliot stud dt just decommit from Michigan and is supposedly headed to Texas. Looks like Texas is recruiting over Chris Daniels.

  • Okie403 says:

    Never wanna get too high or too low. Not as good as it seems nor as bad.

  • Coach JK says:

    Nice to see Marcus Green on campus at NEO. Good luck to that young man.

  • RBear says:

    Harbaugh is turning this whole thing into a circus- hopefully not a point of no return:

    https://twitter.com/zach_barnett/status/692817224667516928

    • cush creekmont says:

      I’d like to see if OU could have A.D., DeMarco, GK McCoy, Williams, Stephenson, Lane Johnson, Gresham, and others for OUr signing day.

    • Maverick says:

      What a clown. It’s kind of funny, but I don’t want to like it.

      I think we’re beyond that point unfortunately. If a living legend (eww) of a coach like Saban has to dance in a kid’s house, what does that mean for everyone else?

  • Lincoln Hawk says:

    Sorry if posted and I missed it but what are the top schools Swenson is looking at and is there any correlation between Williams not coming and Swenson coming?

    • Kelly Gurbcock says:

      I don’t think there’s a correlation, I think it’s the OU staff taking advantage of a very good opportunity this late in the game. Especially considering the fact that it looks like Moore is going to end up at LosuR or the Juco route, this is a blessing falling out of the sky.

  • Robert Boone says:

    Kelly, Daniels, Mayden, Swenson, Jackson. I think 3 out of 5 would be a win.

  • COSooner says:

    Daniel’s Twitter is crawling with UTerus stuff now. I think he gone…

  • j l says:

    Just out of curiosity, if we dont land jackson, could JMT fill that OLB/DE void? He seems to be getting bigger by the day, and hes already got the athleticism to play that role.

  • Tom Turman says:

    We’ve got 65 scholarship players returning (after removing Cody Thomas). We’ve got 18 either currently committed or signed in this class. 1 of those is a soft commit and 1 may be injured and not able to sign. We are actively recruiting 13 others, to some degree. Assuming Cobb flips and Youngquist can’t sign, and assuming no one currently on the team leaves, we’re sitting at 81 and have 4 spots for 13 uncommitted prospects. Some of those 13 are either/or prospects, so OU would not take all of them if they wanted to come. It’s hard to get a good read as to how many more OU will accept, moreso than any other year that I can remember. I think OU has a realistic chance at Swenson, Mayden, Moore, Jacobs, Farrar, and Kelly, although I don’t think OU gets all of them. I think OU still has a chance at Daniels, Jackson, Southall and Tupai, although I can’t tell how good a chance. I think Blue is an option if OU doesn’t get Kelly or Jackson perhaps, and I think OU is probably out on Velus Jones and Jauan Williams, although stranger things have happened. This will be a NSD unlike any other that I can recall, in that in most years, I knew who to expect OU to sign, with one or two possible unknowns. This year is far from that.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      I think we might potentially lose another 1-2 players, so that would up it to 6 or so spots.

  • Sooner Man says:

    Jauan Williams could still visit at a later date Wednesday isn’t the deadline they can it is the first day they can sign LOI.

  • Soonerboyz says:

    We sure are turning away lots of high rated prospects
    ( little LR humor)

    • RBear says:

      He (SuperK) should have never put himself into this position in the first place. 😉

      • Clint Lenard says:

        I agree. Now he’s going to be “the Texas guy” from here on out.

      • Gary Robbins says:

        Makes you wonder.
        OU site has Jordan E., Brandon, and Super K.
        Texas site has Andrew King, Gabriel, and Super K.
        Right now the Texas site is all roses and smiles.
        To me a problem is Texas is all about Jordan Elliot and DCG their saviors at defensive tackle. Not much mention about Daniels-hmm.

      • blaster1371 says:

        Nope….

    • rphokc says:

      dabbing……….watching the aussie open when a highly ranked woman player from russia did this after every win………loved it when she was ousted, gee, no dabbing

      • Zack says:

        Can’t watch tennis anymore. I was a big fan of nadal a few years ago but he’s nothing like he used to be.

        • rphokc says:

          I watch a couple of the slams each yr…..stayed up late to catch fed and joker last nite and stayed for set and a half………have never seen joker so on his game, he destroyed and embarrassed fed during that time and even the announcers were surprised though fed did manage to take it to 4 sets…….nadal is only 29 but seems past his best, fed is approaching the end at 34 and joker is probably destined to be the best ever to date and at 28 will set many records

          • Zack says:

            It does look that way but I’m sure there’s a couple of guys coming up that will be great. For a long time it looked like nadal and federer were going to win every other major and then joker caught fire.

    • OceanDescender says:

      Gotta love the exposure for Super K no matter how it comes. Guy really has earned it and much much more for keeping us Sooners coming back in the good times and the not so good times!

    • ALar03 says:

      Respect is earned not given… but if it involves Texsa it can certainly be lost!! lol

    • blaster1371 says:

      I am seeing way to much Texass crap on this site

    • John Garner says:

      Awesome. Was checking out USC’s commits in the right margin. I see where Matt Fink is either the #3 QB or the #3 DT, Not often you see a QB play DT as well.

  • SoonerinLondon says:

    On to OU?

    Jim Harbaugh’s Recruiting Tactics: Don’t Hate The Coach, Hate The Game – Daily Cavalcade//

    By Pete Fiutak

    So you don’t like the way Jim Harbaugh recruits? Welcome to the real world of college football recruiting.
    Follow, or just provide your love to @PeteFiutak

    Sorry if this column sucks, it’s not my fault …
    Jim Harbaugh took away my scholarship offer and now I might have to go play for Illinois.

    ”My God, this is a travesty. God, if we can’t even recruit Baloney Bard, then we can’t recruit anybody.”
    Hi, American sports media, I’m Fiu. First time caller, longtime listener, and I have one quick question to you about Jim Harbaugh and the controversy over his recruiting tactics, and then I’ll hang up and listen for my answer.

    What turnip truck did you fall off of on your way to learning about the world of college football recruiting?

    Seriously, how do you think they made that hamburger you’re eating for lunch?

    Do you not know how this process all works? Are you just now waking up to how college coaches do their jobs – as ugly as it might be at times – to put together the best teams possible?

    I’m the first to rip on just how sick, twisted and perverted the entire world of recruiting is, and I’m almost never going to be on the side of the gasbag high-end college football coaches on anything, but what Harbaugh is doing right now is 1) absolutely brilliant – with the phenomenal sleepover and tree-climbing PR moves – and 2) playing ball by ditching good prospects for better ones.

    And that’s all this controversy is. In the effort to give Michigan the best college football team he can field, Harbaugh is able to sign better prospects than ones who previously said they were committing, but didn’t have as much potential.

    Yes, he “over-recruited” his class, which is actually the wrong term, because it’s more like overpromised scholarships, but that’s standard operating procedure in the cut-throat, big business, real world life of college football recruiting.

    Let me put it this way. If you’re looking for a girlfriend and you’re allowed to choose just one on February 3rd, and Reese Witherspoon committed to you two years ago to sign on – saying it was her dream to date you once the time came – you’d be pretty fired up. But two weeks before the deadline, Alessandra Ambrosia says she wants to commit to being your girlfriend. You might not be happy about hurting Reese’s feelings, and it might be cold, but you can only have one, and you’d obviously take the better of the two.

    To keep rolling with this, it’s not like Reese doesn’t have other options. You’re a big-time catch, and if she was good enough to be considered by you, she’s more than good enough for a lot of other extremely attractive suitors.

    That’s essentially how this all works, and that’s why National Signing Day is a big deal.

    College coaches have to try to bring in the most talented players possible. It’s not their job to find the smartest students, and it’s not their job to find young men they can mold into leaders and best.

    A college football coach is supposed to win football games – period.

    As Alabama proved this year, just like Ohio State showed last season, and Florida State the season before, if you have more talented players than everyone else, you’re going to win a lot of games, which is why you should be absolutely ecstatic if you’re a Michigan fan that Harbaugh rejected a few sevens when he could get a nine.

    If you’re a die-hard fan of Wolverine football, would you rather have an offensive tackle who’ll go on to become one heck of a dentist, or one who might be an NFL draft pick four years from now?

    At Stanford, Harbaugh was a bad guy because he bailed on an offer to Kain Colter because he was able to get Andrew Luck? If it’s an either/or situation, a coach should be fired on the spot for not doing that.

    So offensive lineman Erik Swenson wasn’t considered good enough by Harbaugh to be on the team, even though he was promised a scholarship by Brady Hoke and the previous coaching staff. That sucks for Swenson, but that doesn’t mean he can’t go to Michigan. That doesn’t mean he can’t go try to walk on to the team if he thinks he’s good enough. If he really wants to go to school there, then he can try to get accepted. Otherwise, he can go play for a number of other schools more than happy to give him a scholarship for his football talents.

    Is it low rent that Harbaugh didn’t call Swenson and say he was pulling the offer? Yeah, but the message was the same no matter if it was Harbaugh making the call or the offensive line coach.

    Welcome to Dumpsville. Population: You.

    And it works the other way, too.

    Until a recruit actually faxes in that signed letter of intent, he’s free game.

    That means that if some other coach wants to deliver a better tractor to Ricky Roe at the 11th hour to get him to flip his commitment, guess who’s getting that signature?

    It happens all the time, and it’s also part of the deal. A coach thinks he has a certain position all set by getting a superstar recruit to verbally commit, other top prospects choose other schools because of that commitment, the coach stops recruiting the position because he thinks he has it set, and then … wham. The prospect chooses another school and screws everything up.

    In the case of Harbaugh and Michigan, top-level recruits are now looking to go to Ann Arbor more than they did in recent years, and now there are more options to choose from. Now Michigan is able to battle with the Ohio States, Alabamas, and others for talent because it has a head coach good enough to be in the running for those players.

    If Michigan wins the Big Ten title and/or the national championship in the near future because of this recruiting class, no one will care a lick about what it took to get the program back among the elite of the elite.

    To paraphrase the well-worn cliché, don’t hate the coach, hate the game.

    • CrimsonNative says:

      Sounds like Harbaugh is playing the same game the recruits are. That’s one way to get the best kids to commit early. Must be something they learn in the NFL because Saban does the same thing.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      Normally don’t read lengthy posts but you held my interest, congrats. 🙂

    • Sooner Ray says:

      Normally don’t read lengthy posts but you held my interest, congrats. 🙂

  • SoonerinLondon says:

    On to OU?

    Jim Harbaugh’s Recruiting Tactics: Don’t Hate The Coach, Hate The Game – Daily Cavalcade//

    By Pete Fiutak

    So you don’t like the way Jim Harbaugh recruits? Welcome to the real world of college football recruiting.
    Follow, or just provide your love to @PeteFiutak

    Sorry if this column sucks, it’s not my fault …
    Jim Harbaugh took away my scholarship offer and now I might have to go play for Illinois.

    ”My God, this is a travesty. God, if we can’t even recruit Baloney Bard, then we can’t recruit anybody.”
    Hi, American sports media, I’m Fiu. First time caller, longtime listener, and I have one quick question to you about Jim Harbaugh and the controversy over his recruiting tactics, and then I’ll hang up and listen for my answer.

    What turnip truck did you fall off of on your way to learning about the world of college football recruiting?

    Seriously, how do you think they made that hamburger you’re eating for lunch?

    Do you not know how this process all works? Are you just now waking up to how college coaches do their jobs – as ugly as it might be at times – to put together the best teams possible?

    I’m the first to rip on just how sick, twisted and perverted the entire world of recruiting is, and I’m almost never going to be on the side of the gasbag high-end college football coaches on anything, but what Harbaugh is doing right now is 1) absolutely brilliant – with the phenomenal sleepover and tree-climbing PR moves – and 2) playing ball by ditching good prospects for better ones.

    And that’s all this controversy is. In the effort to give Michigan the best college football team he can field, Harbaugh is able to sign better prospects than ones who previously said they were committing, but didn’t have as much potential.

    Yes, he “over-recruited” his class, which is actually the wrong term, because it’s more like overpromised scholarships, but that’s standard operating procedure in the cut-throat, big business, real world life of college football recruiting.

    Let me put it this way. If you’re looking for a girlfriend and you’re allowed to choose just one on February 3rd, and Reese Witherspoon committed to you two years ago to sign on – saying it was her dream to date you once the time came – you’d be pretty fired up. But two weeks before the deadline, Alessandra Ambrosia says she wants to commit to being your girlfriend. You might not be happy about hurting Reese’s feelings, and it might be cold, but you can only have one, and you’d obviously take the better of the two.

    To keep rolling with this, it’s not like Reese doesn’t have other options. You’re a big-time catch, and if she was good enough to be considered by you, she’s more than good enough for a lot of other extremely attractive suitors.

    That’s essentially how this all works, and that’s why National Signing Day is a big deal.

    College coaches have to try to bring in the most talented players possible. It’s not their job to find the smartest students, and it’s not their job to find young men they can mold into leaders and best.

    A college football coach is supposed to win football games – period.

    As Alabama proved this year, just like Ohio State showed last season, and Florida State the season before, if you have more talented players than everyone else, you’re going to win a lot of games, which is why you should be absolutely ecstatic if you’re a Michigan fan that Harbaugh rejected a few sevens when he could get a nine.

    If you’re a die-hard fan of Wolverine football, would you rather have an offensive tackle who’ll go on to become one heck of a dentist, or one who might be an NFL draft pick four years from now?

    At Stanford, Harbaugh was a bad guy because he bailed on an offer to Kain Colter because he was able to get Andrew Luck? If it’s an either/or situation, a coach should be fired on the spot for not doing that.

    So offensive lineman Erik Swenson wasn’t considered good enough by Harbaugh to be on the team, even though he was promised a scholarship by Brady Hoke and the previous coaching staff. That sucks for Swenson, but that doesn’t mean he can’t go to Michigan. That doesn’t mean he can’t go try to walk on to the team if he thinks he’s good enough. If he really wants to go to school there, then he can try to get accepted. Otherwise, he can go play for a number of other schools more than happy to give him a scholarship for his football talents.

    Is it low rent that Harbaugh didn’t call Swenson and say he was pulling the offer? Yeah, but the message was the same no matter if it was Harbaugh making the call or the offensive line coach.

    Welcome to Dumpsville. Population: You.

    And it works the other way, too.

    Until a recruit actually faxes in that signed letter of intent, he’s free game.

    That means that if some other coach wants to deliver a better tractor to Ricky Roe at the 11th hour to get him to flip his commitment, guess who’s getting that signature?

    It happens all the time, and it’s also part of the deal. A coach thinks he has a certain position all set by getting a superstar recruit to verbally commit, other top prospects choose other schools because of that commitment, the coach stops recruiting the position because he thinks he has it set, and then … wham. The prospect chooses another school and screws everything up.

    In the case of Harbaugh and Michigan, top-level recruits are now looking to go to Ann Arbor more than they did in recent years, and now there are more options to choose from. Now Michigan is able to battle with the Ohio States, Alabamas, and others for talent because it has a head coach good enough to be in the running for those players.

    If Michigan wins the Big Ten title and/or the national championship in the near future because of this recruiting class, no one will care a lick about what it took to get the program back among the elite of the elite.

    To paraphrase the well-worn cliché, don’t hate the coach, hate the game.

  • Maverick says:

    Drove by the stadium last night. Its hard to appreciate from the pictures how much bigger it looks already. The outer edge of the SE corner is about as close to Jenkins as the East side already was.

    Pretty impressive. Where will they practice now though?

    • Jake says:

      That’s exciting, Maverick. Cannot wait to see the finished product. I really wish they would replace the tiny/outdated screen on the north end-zone to match the monster they are putting up on the new south end-zone.

      • Maverick says:

        Oh I’m sure they eventually will. The folks that are spending a new premium in that end zone will want it. Maybe as part of the press box phase?

        • Jake says:

          Yeah, I’ve seen in the expansion plans that this is the case. I just wish they’d do it at the same time, rather than implementing that later.

          • SoonerinLondon says:

            The board was removed from the plan because President Boren felt it detracted from the view of the campus (from the stadium).

            I am moving to a box in the SW corner, in hopes of later moving into a box on the West (when it is built) and have expressed my great disappointment that the North big screen has been removed from the plan.

            I don’t have any power, but think there will be plenty of people paying for end zone seats that don’t like the small screen. Hopefully, with a common voice, we can change the President’s mind.

            This is the original plan, which included the big screen in the North and also enclosing the walkway between the current fence and stadium.

            http://soonershub.com/legacyone/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Bowl_01.jpg

  • Maverick says:

    Drove by the stadium last night. Its hard to appreciate from the pictures how much bigger it looks already. The outer edge of the SE corner is about as close to Jenkins as the East side already was.

    Pretty impressive. Where will they practice now though?

  • Will Narramore says:

    What’s this about Youngquist and not being able to play? I’m very confused?

    • JrsySooner says:

      Personal . ..all I know any thing from health to death in the family.
      sucks one week before but pray all is well for him a d family

    • Rick says:

      Not much info, just, he can’t sign. He’s not decommitting, he’s just not signing, with anyone. No details, lots of guessing. Grades, medical, who knows? It was just supposed to be something personal.

  • Hotrod33 says:

    The only way you make these kids regret for not coming to OU is by winning a conference and National championship. I think we will be good next year and if we can do what we did this past year then we will just fine. I wish these kids the best of luck unless they play OU then I hope they have a terrible game.

    • cush creekmont says:

      C Kelly – you look much better in Crimson & Cream than in that green stuff in Indiana.
      Boomer to you Mr. Kelly! Say Sooner back on Wednesday.