Open Post | Monday, Jul. 13th (UPDATE 4:16 pm)
Posted on: July 13, 2015
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– Audie Omotosho: Plano East 2016 wide receiver Audie Omotosho dropped his Top 10 this past weekend which included: Arkansas, Cal, Maryland, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, SMU, Texas Tech, UCLA, Washington & Utah.
I caught up with Audie yesterday, who told me he has plans to be in Norman later this month for an unofficial visit. He doesn’t have an exact date set yet, but he’s been consistent this summer saying in saying he wants to visit OU. – (Super K)
– Parrish Cobb: I caught up with a friend who is very close to 2016 CB Parrish Cobb (Waco, TX) and spoke with him about where things stand with Cobb’s recruiting. My friend said Cobb has some interest in OU but based on the rest of our conversation, it doesn’t look great for the Sooners at the moment.
Evidently Cobb’s family really want him at Baylor. Additionally, he has a sister that just graduated from Texas so Cobb also has some interest in the Longhorns. Cobb and Eric Cuffee are very close and as most of you know, Cuffee did not include OU in his recently released list of top schools. It’s also worth mentioning both Cobb and Cuffee are currently camping at Alabama. My friend also said Notre Dame is another school under consideration.
Though he has yet to release a list of top schools, I get the sense that Baylor, Texas and Alabama (assuming they offer at the camp) are, in some order, at the top with Notre Dame and Oklahoma behind those three. – (Super K)
– Team News | Linebackers: Talked to a source this past weekend about OU’s linebackers. Here are a few quick notes.
* From my source, “If Obo puts in the work, he can be a 1st round pass rusher.”
* Also from my source, “Bond is good…he’s going to be really good this year.”
*Asked which linebackers are running with 1’s in 7-on-7 and was told that it’s currently Striker, Evans & Alexander (I thought it was interesting Shannon wasn’t among those top three, but it’s obviously still just summer workouts. We’ll see what, if anything, changes once they put the pads on this fall.)
* I know there has been a lot of criticism directed at the OU defensive staff for changing the team’s defensive alignments so much and while I’m clearly not in the meeting rooms, I can imagine what a difficult task it is trying to figure out how to get their best players on the field. I’m sure the coaches would love to have Obo, Striker & Bond all on the field, but they all sort of fit the same mold. There is some obvious variation in size, but none of them are particular long, pure DE types. All three are more closely built to book end stand up LBs (Obo and Bond are listed at 6’1 and Striker at 6’0).
Personally, I don’t mind the varying fronts. Charlie Strong does it successfully with a lot of movement. Truthfully, I think the more important aspect of what they’re doing is that the front generally be more aggressive. For the past three years, it seems no matter who OU’s defensive line coach is there hasn’t been enough reckless gap penetration or movement. – (Super K)
– UPDATE (1:24 pm): With the dead period coming to an end just after midnight, the OU coaches are (or soon will be) back out on the recruiting trail. And with that comes word of their latest 2017 offer to ATH Malcolm Askew (5’10” 176 – McCalla, AL). However, you’re looking at an Alabama kid with offers from both the Crimson Tide and Auburn. Not to mention a host of other SEC schools.
– UPDATE (4:16 pm): Here is some positive OU recruiting news. 2016 LB Bryce Youngquist is planning to be in Norman this coming Friday for an unofficial visit. – (Brandon)
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Great stuff, K. Thanks!
You’re welcome Sam!
with three linebackers in 7on7 does that mean they are in a 4-3 look? or how are they lining the linbackers up
I could be wrong as I suppose it varies and/or depends on the program, but I was under the impression 7-on-7 work is mainly LB/DBs on the defensive side & then obv. skill position guys on the flip side of the ball.
So I’m not sure how much, if at all, 4-3, 3-4, or whatever would really come into play.
Usually there are one or two LB’s on 7-7 both playing in middle zone/man.
well wouldn’t they play the same way they do with out a defensive line, same coverages and same way they position themselves to start pre snap. Just curious? I knew it was seven on seven but the rest would be the same besides the lines on both sides not being there right?
Not necessarily. Can you imagine DBs playing 7-10 yards off the LOS in 7-on-7? Wouldn’t make for much of a challenge.
so they just play strictly man coverage no zone in 7 on 7? im really just trying to learn the whole process not second guessing you all?
No worries, didn’t take it as second guessing at all.
I’m quite confident in saying they mix up their coverages, but I thought you were asking if they’d be playing exactly the same way they would in a normal game. I’m saying some instances that could certainly be the case, but in others it would not.
I think it’s as much about working out and staying in shape and developing that chemistry w/ your teammates. as it is running your O/D. Because as I’m sure you need no reminder, the coaches can’t be there or take part in anything.
Brandon, It depends on what skill and aspects of the defensive scheme vs. the offensive looks they need to work on. Sometimes because of wanting to gauge the play recognition and reaction time of my DBs to certain looks in the short game (with vertical route combos thrown in). I would purposely have my DB line up in a deep set. Everything in 7 on 7 should have an in game application based on your basic defensive philosophy and technical skill. Repetition, muscle memory, allowing players to play (all that coach speak stuff). But like Jordan said their is an element of staying in physical shape as well.
They do it all the time Jordan. I just watched The Opening for two days on-site and the best CB’s were playing 7 – 8 yards off half the time. Also, I’m involved in 7-7 in Houston and press is not standard.
Never said press was standard. And I’d imagine any opposing QB would be perfectly fine w/ DBs playing that far off.
I am sure Shannon is still paying for his mistakes, and Alexander has earned the right to start no doubts both will play a ton this year. We are deep at LB and extremely thin at safety as of today I would rather have 5 LBs start (in some way) vs Tenn than a nickel we are not sure about or a safety that is not sure where he is suppose to be. This could change but as of today and going of last season I trust our LBs and their experience on the field.
So, where are we with Tyrie Cleveland.. WOW !! Whoever gets him will have the best group of WRs in the country I don’t care who lines up next to him.
Oh, and should have at least offered Kyle Mayberry..
If by “paying for his mistakes” you mean that he is developmentally and/or physically behind the other LB’ers then I can possibly see that. On the other hand, if you mean that he is still being punished by the coaches by not being given a fair chance, then hopefully you are wrong. I can’t imagine that the coaches are not doing what is in the best interest of the team. It’s still early on, so I’m sure if Shannon shows he’s the best player then he will start running with the 1’s and end up starting when the season begins.
A little of both, he has to be behind some. But if you watch Stoops enough you know he will have to earn his way back on the field.
Oh, I definitely agree he must earn his way onto the field, but Stoops has previously said that Shannon has already been punished. Therefore, my point is that Stoops and/or the other coaches most likely won’t keep him from practicing and/or playing as a way to further punish him. But as you said, I think he will definitely have to earn his way onto the field. And the way he’ll do that is by showing that he’s the best player at that position and by showing that he’s putting in the expected work and can be counted on to put in the work throughout the season. Long story short, if he’s the best player at his position he will start regardless of what he may or may not have done in the past due to completed punishment.
Thank you sir!
Couple thoughts, maybe Shannon has to earn his way back after a year long suspension(thats how I’d handle things) and will Obo or Bond play DE in 3rd and long situations just to get them on the field?
Precisely. After almost being off the team, Shannon is still having to take the long road back for PT. And it isn’t going to be easy after a year out of football.
It’s hard to have reckless defensive line play when they have to protect the backers and safeties so much. I think our weak inside LB and safety play has had as much to do with the defensive line being passive as the coaching carousel.
I agree and I also think Bob and Mike have legit fears of QBs that can run ever since we played Johnny rehab
“Johnny rehab”…perfect. I’m stealing this!
Good point. Unfortunately it tends to have an opposite effect. Leads to a slow and not very entertaining death. Much prefer the way Missouri, Texas, etc attack.
Yes, Missouri! I was just watching them on the SEC channel. Haven’t they had the SEC’s DPOY the last two years?
yup
Thought so. Thanks Jordan. That’s another team that does a lot with less.
indeed
Yup, in the same way that a prevent defense prevents winning, and the best defense is a good offense (in football terms, an defense that attacks.)
If you have a difference maker up front (or great technique or scheme) you don’t worry about protecting the LBs or secondary. The LBs were fine last year, the Wilson move messed up the whole defense creating multiple issues instead of just finding a corner (who we found later anyway).
Agree. And took OUr best pass rusher (Striker) out of the mix mostly in the process. If your DBs are having trouble staying with a receiver, do you want to allow the QB even more time? Get people in his face and make him uncomfortable. Instead, passive line play, took Striker off the rush, played the DBs off. Hoping to see much more aggressive play this season.
As Iron Mike would say. ‘Everybody has got a plan until they get hit in the mouth.’ Hit the offense in the mouth repeatedly and without remorse and see if their plan and schemes hold up. That’s always been my philosophy…lol
K if you had to pick 3 DBs that are on the board that we have legitimate chances at landing and that we really need to land who would they be. Who are the PJs of this class in your mind?
I’m gonna go through that in a post hopefully this week my man. CBs are a little slim pickings in Texas this yr and unfortunately OU didn’t get in on Malik Antoine or Kyle Meyers when given the chance
Very cool thanks for the incredible site. I need all then info I can living in Massachusetts where CFB is dead.
Tre Jackson.
Sounds like a good article in the making. Could be extended beyond DBs. While I like that OU is not afraid to recruit the top kids, especially now, OU needs to find those kids that are more ‘accessible’ until the coaches can get things turned around on the field. And I choose to believe they are really close, esp. on offense. Defense, another story. OU might have to BBall score some games in order to win.
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Recruiting is just a bust this year. Getting passed up by Baylor is not a good sign. What’s the deal?
Why are you always so negative? There isn’t any shame in losing a recruit to Baylor.
Baylor has worked hard to change its brand and they deserve to have something good happen to them. They’ve worked for it. I’m happy for them.
It’s hard to be positive when the program is in decline. If you can’t see that, take your crimson colored glasses off.. And there is NO SHAME IN LOSING RECRUITS TO BAYLOR? Are you freaking kidding me??? This is Oklahoma! Can’t believe you and others are ok with that. Forever ago this would not be acceptable. We are getting passed by lower teir programs and YOU PEOPLE are ok with it. Not me, this is NOT OKLAHOMA FOOTBALL!
Forever ago you could have a zillion kids on the roster. So in your world if Oklahoma loses a game, doesn’t win a national championship, or lose one single solitary kid we want to any other school on the planet(especially one named Baylor) then that year is a failure? You must not be married if someone used those standards on you, bubba
No need to feed the troll 🙂
Boomer, good morning, sir. It’s always nice to see your posts.
Cbusta needs a life, for sure.
Good to hear from you. He’s the coolest guy in an empty room. It’s fun to meet a guy who can actually put his pants on two legs at a time
You’re referring to one or 2 guys here and there and saying that’s the same truth across the board. OU is not losing recruits as much to Baylor as they are to Texas and lsu and a&m and other big time recruiting schools. Let me know when Baylor and tech and tcu have a better rated recruiting class on NSD because so far that hasn’t happened and probably won’t.
Also committing early means nothing. We flipped mbansor and ford from tcu last year. We also flipped Humphrey from Baylor. Those were just the 2015 class that I can remember. Green from wsu. McKinney from ND/unc.
Zack, very good points. People like Cbusta think it’s over and NSD is about eight months away.
Zack where as I totally agree with you in the past, I think that this might be the year that TCU actually does beat us in the rankings unless things drastically change. They’re killing it in recruiting so far this year.
Makes me wanna puke.
I’m expecting tcu to go 9-4 which is a good year on their normal standards but not this year when they might be preseason top 5 or even 3. its early and I don’t think tcu and Baylor are top 15 type recruiting schools. Private schools to my knowledge, will have tougher academic requirements and that will probably affect them at some point if it already doesn’t.
You probably call yourself a realist. Well, Mr. Realist, you have to admit that Baylor is not a second tier program anymore.
All that screaming you’re doing least me to believe you’re about to Cbusta a vein. Ha! That was funny. I think I’ll like my own post.
And, finally, you have to accept it because it did happened: OU lost to Baylor last year. I’m looking forward to this year.
I think we’ve all accepted that it’s true, Baylor is better than Oklahoma right now. Are we okay with that though? Me, no. I’m too big of a fan to be okay with that bruh. I love my Sooners more than that than to see a piece of junk like Baylor and TCU, kicking our butt in recruiting and on the field. We’re Oklahoma…A school with too much tradition and pride to be in this spot right now. I bet Bud would roll over in his grave seeing that junk.
SoonerLove, don’t get me wrong, I don’t like it either. But we need Baylor, Texas,TCU, OSU, Texsa, and TT to be good. The national brand has been, and what most are fond of saying, the Big two (OU/Texsa).
When OU takes down all of these teams, nationally recognized teams, who can deny OU’s greatness.
We need these other teams to be good. They can’t be good if they’re not getting top notch recruits.
Let’s not fight it. Let’s embrace it.
I agree it’s good for them to be good, but we still need to do our part and not fall to baby brother below them. Texas and OU should be sitting on top of the conference and the other guys behind us. I root for Baylor and TCU when they’re not playing us. I just look at it this way, Alabama and LSU usually sit up top the SEC and I bet Bama fans would be upset if Vanderbilt and Ketucky started kicking their butt every year. There’s just something not right about Baylor and TCU being that much better than us. That’s just how I feel. And boomersooner, it’s not an overreaction when someone spits the truth. It’s fact that OU has not been championship material since Bradford in 08.
I’m still trying to understand what the problem is. Would you find satisfaction in OU beating a bad Baylor team and miss out on the playoffs because some pundit believes says, “Well, everyone beats Baylor and TCU.”
Not at all. You’re missing my point. I’d love to play Baylor and TCU when they’re ranked 7th in the country and we’re ranked 2nd for example. Kind of like when we played Texas Tech in 2008 when they were 2nd and we were 3rd. The only problem is that’s not the case now. We’ve gotten our butts handed to us the last two times we played Baylor. The games were not even competitive. That’s what I meant by we need to do our part and at least have the personnel on the field to be competitive. Trust me, I want the Big 12 or whatever conference we are in to be strong, but that doesn’t mean, we have to fall to the middle to lower portion of the conference.
The thing of it is, they still don’t really approach us in the recruiting rankings. They haven’t done better than 25th in the last 5 years, and that’s when they’ve actually improved in recruiting.
Eric, that’s what makes me think it’s more of a coaching problem than a recruiting issue. That means they’re developing their players and we aren’t. To me it doesn’t matter if it’s recruiting, developing, in game coaching, or game preparation, it needs to get fixed starting this season.
Also, sometimes it doesn’t matter how many 4 or 5 star guys you get. How many of those 5 star athletes haven’t panned out at OU and other schools. Texas has had many too that did nothing when they got there. OU had 2 and 3 stars on our team the year we won the 2000 title. Sometimes it’s a real skill to find raw talent that gets overlooked. I think that’s what Baylor and TCU have done such a phenominal job of and where we’ve lacked possibly.
I know theres the perception of TCU being “that much better than us” but I happened to rewatch the OU/TCU game just last night and the difference between the two teams was actually quite minimal ( you all should rewatch it ). Our problems really started to spiral downhill when Shepard got hurt. From then on we were completely one dimensional and utterly predictable. That of course in turn effected the defense as well.
I honestly think that we’ll beat TCU this year. Baylor AT Baylor might be another story.
I agree with the TCU game, but losing one guy should not ruin an entire team. OU should have been deeper than to fall apart when one guy goes down. I guarantee if Mark Clayton had gone down, we would have still put up a lot of points back in the early 2000’s.
Unfortunately Shep seems to be the only WR that our QBs had a connection with last year. Hence him going down was a killer.
Hopefully this year will be different.
Probably why we have a new WR coach.
Yes, you are correct. There are highly emotional people, like you, who get bent out of shape if their team doesn’t win everything all the time and, you know, poison trees, castrate people, and such.
Fans like me don’t expect to win the NT every year, because that is really hard to do unless your program is cheating. However, fans like me expect to have seasons like we did from 2000-2008. Competitive and a threat for the championship. From 2009-present OU hasn’t sniffed the NT.
Let me help a little bit. The 2005, 2006, and 2007 seasons OU was not a threat for the championship. Maybe someone could make a claim that we were in the hunt, sort of, in 2007. It doesn’t help to lose to unranked teams. however.
I hope this doesn’t make you feel worse.
2005 was a rebuilding year, 2006 we would have likely played Ohio St in the NT (whom Florida wiped in the NT), had Oregon not f’d us, and 2007 was Bradfords first year as a freshman QB. Those are all legitimate excuses for not being in the hunt for the NT. 2009-present has clearly been full of disappointment and falling short of expectations.
Look up overreaction in the dictionary and you will see your post
It doesn’t matter if they beat us by 34 or 50….A butt kicking is a butt kicking.
It’s obvious to me that you are not a fan of the university of Oklahoma. No freaking chance. There are plenty of other places for you to post all the garbage you have here. Leave this to us big boys
I’m a huge fan. That’s why I’m trying to get you people to wake up. I love OU to death, but am frustrated with getting our butts kicked every year. I want to see my team be dominant. What’s so wrong with that and how does that make me less of a fan to have higher expectations than you?
You are aware that in his last 5 seasons at OU, Bud only had one year where he did not lose at least three games. He had to bounce back from back to back seasons in which he lost as many as he won, 5-5; and a season in which he lost twice as many games as he won 3-6-1.
And this, in an era in which there weren’t as many games to lose and the competition in both the games and in recruiting isn’t anything like today.
I think Bud would be far more understanding of the current situation than you give him credit for.
Soonermusic, I understand every coach has their days…Barry had some struggles in the early 80’s before the Boz showed up on campus. However, come on….Are we really going to sit here and say that OU is in the shape it needs to be in? It’s impossible to deny that we don’t see our guys causing as many turn overs, the run being stopped, the QB being sacked as often as we did from 2000-2004. It’s impossible to say that we only had 1 good receiver last year (Sterling) vs. having Brandon Jones, Mark Clayton, Travis Wilson, Juan Rankins to throw it to. Can we really be in denial enough to say that Trevor Knight was even close to as good as Sam Bradford, Jason White or Josh Heupel? The only good thing about last year was Perine period. Everyone else stunk it up the last half of the season. That’s why there’s frustration here. I’m not bashing Stoops or his legacy, but we can’t sit here and keep making excuse after excuse and be in denial about the program’s current shape. It’s not in good shape and deep down inside you know it.
Sam, Cbusta is constantly posting negative things on the scout board.
I do believe hes a distant relative to Stephen Dale.
When you say distant relative, do you mean full-circle, which connects to the source, which leads back to he-who-must-not-be-named? I gasp!! Could it be?!
No I dont think it comes full circle. Just another poster that constantly looks for negative statements to make about OU..
I don’t see how being negative serves any purpose. It just makes you feel miserable. I’d much prefer to accept it and keep moving forward. Some of the cats on here, I wouldn’t want to work next to them or be their leaders. Talk about back stabbing. It’d be Cesar and Brutus all over again.
Its hard to tell on here who are the people that are real Sooner fans but have “glass half empty” personalities and who are the true trolls just looking to take pot shots at OU.
I like to think that Im a realist and have certainly criticized OU in the past but Im definitely an optimist and always looking for the positives in our program. My thoughts are basically “Well this sucks but God wants OU to win so in the end we will” lol
It’s a great day to be a SOONER!! I will admit that I have had one problem with OU as of late. “MIKE STOOPS” but as soon as he pulls his head out and gets some air he should be ok. Shouldn’t he?
I think the rarified are way up in the press box might help.
We shall see about that, About that we shall see.
47 channeling his inner-Yoda.
Some days are easier than others.
seriously though I cant tell you how happy I am that Mike will be upstairs. For one he’ll have a much better perspective of whats happening on the field and even more importantly he wont be publically embarrassing the players anymore by screaming at them in from of 80k fans and millions of tv viewers.
Yes, not good on team morale when the coach is arguing with the players. One other ?. Should we be concerned with the plays being relayed to the sidelines on time. It was a problem on offense last year.
God is an OU fan: I like it.
Does she/he also up vote her/his own posts?
Judging from today, I’d say yes.
Wow, you can seriously do that? If I’d have known Id upvoted each of my posts like 50 times!
Indeed. We each can have the most up-voted posts ever, as indicated by ourselves.
I had to upvote you for that life changing information lol.
I will not accept losing to BAYLOR this generation or next. It is unacceptable in the football world. Sad so many of you are ok with it
Umm…buddy? Not one OU fan on here is “OK” with it.
Yada. Yada. Yada.
I don’t think anyone is content with OU playing second fiddle to Texas, let alone Baylor or anyone else. But like you say OU isn’t really great right now and Baylor is getting the national attention. Which is why they are out recruiting OU. The Sooners have their work cut out for themselves to get back on top. It’s not impossible I mean heck even Baylor did it with way less.
True.
Completely agree here with Cbusta. I don’t care what Baylor has done in the last few years. We should have never fell this far down nationally and especially in our own conference. We are supposed to have the guys on the field that Baylor and TCU have, but Mack Brown and Bob Stoops started letting those two schools gain power by winning recruiting battles a few years ago. Sad to say a team like Baylor, who you could always count as a W each season, is now beating us by 50 points. Baylor is a school with zero history or zero tradition. Oklahoma is supposed to be up there with the Ohio St.’s, Alabama’s, USC’s, (basically a powerhouse program). Someone that is nationally top 5 to 10 each year. We haven’t been on that level in almost 8 years now. That’s pathetic. That’s almost the same stretch we had in the 90’s. I’m not okay with being 15th to unranked each year. That’s the definition of mediocre Sam. If average works for you, keep wearing the boxers on your head.
SoonerLove, I’ll ask you this: what did OU have as its legacy before it attained greatness? Nothing, right?
Stop walking around with this sense of entitlement, this elitists attitude. It will get you beat. These teams aren’t going to bow down to OU. No one is going step aside. They are going to challenge OU and any other well established program.
I have my priorities in the proper order. OU winning games is not number one on my list because I don’t need OU to win to feel good about who I am.
It seems like you do. So, while you’re waiting on OU to win a game, Big XII championships, National Championships to be happy, I’ll go have fun with my family.
God and my family are the source my happiness, not OU football.
That’s the chicken s way out of a debate Sam. You don’t know me or my personal life at all. I have a gorgeous gf that almost every guy in this state would die to be with. Have my relationship with God, a wonderful family, and big circle of friends, excellent job, etc. With that said, can two men not have a solid debate without it getting personal?
It’s obvious some people are just a little more passionate about their teams than others. That’s what this all broils down to. I have more of a competitive and prideful attitude about my teams and love for the Sooners than you. It’s not a big deal to you if we lose. You’re the type of guy that probably doesn’t have high expectations for yourself so you probably fall short in everything you do in life.
That’s funny.
You’re right about one thing: I’ve failed a lot but I’ve picked myself up every time. I like to think that I have it good.
That’s good. We’re both happy with our lives and have both been successful in our own eyes. So no need to get personal right? If you’re happy with your life and I’m happy with mine, we can debate about FOOTBALL and not bring our personal lives into it.
We were talking football until you made it personal by throwing out this insult: “If average works for you, keep wearing the boxers on your head.”
How would you expect me to respond.
Having said that, I’m willing to lay this to rest, with the expectation that neither of us make it personal moving forward.
Agreed?
Agree…I meant average expectations of OU’s winning percentage, not average in your personal life. However, I agree no more insults on my part. I know we both have different opinions about where the program is at this point and that is fine to have different opinions. I’m not going to be a jerk for having a different opinion. I just like to debate about it, especially because we don’t have anything to talk about sports-wise till Sept. 6th. No hard feelings?
No hard feelings. Group hug. LOL!
Group hug!!! lol
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So are you telling me that’s what it “broils” down to?
Nice. I’m glad you “broiled” it down to us.
And yes, I am clowning you at the moment. I like it. It’s fun.
What a load of crap to say that you love the Sooners more than those of us who may disagree with you on certain points. When you lost your argument you resort to tactics like that?
You accuse those who disagree with not caring if we lose?!?!?!?! WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!!!!!!!!!
Load of crap? That’s your argument? And how did I lose my argument bro?
Load of crap? That’s your argument? And how did I lose my argument?
You were unable to persuade SamSooner to your way of thinking, therefore you lost your argument. And your response…..personal attack.
My point was not to persuade anyone on here to think the way I think. I simply stated how I feel about the direction of the football program and debated with those that disagreed that OU’s football program is doing good and is still strong. Most people on here disagreed with my point that I think OU’s football program has gone downhill. I think that is simply ignorant, but others think I’m simply ignorant for thinking the way I do. I don’t care if SamSooner, boomersooner, you, or other people on here are okay with the football program. That is fine. I’m not. That is fine too. We are all entitled to our own opinions and I did not mind debating my opinion yesterday. I’m sorry people got so butt hurt about it. I didn’t know OU football and placing any kind of realistic critism, would hurt peoples feelings so bad.
Now you’re just making stuff up. I NEVER said I was “ok” with the program. I didn’t see where SamSooner did either.
I simply called you on your comparison to the 10 years prior to Bob. And then I called you on your rude and disrespectful behavior.
And if you think the personal crap you threw out were realistic criticisms, then you clearly have no manners or sense of decorum with others you don’t know.
I think you’ll get along better with others on this board if you just agree to disagree sometimes, and lay off the personal stuff.
I didn’t mean to make anything personal to anyone and I apologize for when it came across that way. I took a lot of personal disrespect myself yesterday, however. If you look back at where this all began…Cbusta made a simple complaint about losing a recruit to Baylor and got completely obliterated on here for making one negative comment. I admit, I aggressively took up for Cbusta and agreed with him. The only reason I came out swinging is because of the attitude and crap they gave him for his comment. Then, the gang up session shifted from Cbusta to me. To me, the only reason it got heated was mainly due to people disagreeing with how emotionally invested we are in the winning/ losing of the football team. Everyone has different feelings, different emotions regarding their personal frustration or non-frustrations with the football program. I just assumed since you chimed in on my posts, that you completely were okay with the state of the football program. I apologize for assuming that. When I replied to your post, it was after several posts of defending myself, so I wasn’t completely in the best of moods.
Cbusta is a tool, who only posts highly negative, the sky is falling, type of posts. I have never seen him post anything positive, EVER. And to top it off, he’s prone to name calling, personal derogatory attacks, and such.
Most of the people who frequent this board are seriously tired of that. Some will go after him, and others who are so off the wall negative. I usually will stay away, but sometimes I’ll call him out, or others, when I think what they’re throwing out is blatantly false.
Truth is, Cbusta is so negative, it’s hard to perceive him as a fan. He has predicted 6-6 or worse as our record this year. He predicts we’ll be in the neighborhood of ISU and KU in our recruiting. Etc., etc., etc. It really gets old. Cbusta is malignant. Not just a discouraged fan. In fact it’s hard to characterize him as a fan.
So if you support him, know you’ll draw some fire.
Well, I didn’t know about any of his history, because yesterday was my first day to really get involved. Although I don’t think a fan should be negative all the time like that, I do see where people’s frustration is coming from, especially after how poorly last season went. I’ve been frustrated now for about 4-5 years as a fan. Not all the time obviously, because I still get excited before each season and each game. I’m still optimistic that we will go undefeated like we did in 2000 each year. However, I’m to a point were I’m started to feel more and more discouraged that OU will get back to the level we were in the early 2000’s. I am tired of the disappointment. I’m not going to constantly walk around being negative nancy by any means, but I am going to be realistic about where I believe the program currently is. I really believe we have taken a step backwards and if we don’t figure it out in the next to years and have two more seasons like the last, then I believe a change to the head coach or a change in conference will be necessary. That’s just my opinion though. I’m open to other proposals or ideas if that occurs. Until then, I’m optimistic that Joe Mixon will be the real deal and Frank Shannon and Devonte Bond will highly impact the defense.
I agreed with you yesterday that the program wasn’t in the shape of the 90’s, but I do still believe with all my heart that the program is right in between terrible and great…which is mediocre or average at this point in time. It’s been that way for the last 6-7 years since 2009. I’m sticking with my opinion on that. The cause for that is still unknown for me. Not sure if it’s Stoops, the previous assistant coaches, the strength and conditioning, or the Big 12 conference itself? However, I don’t mind having a healthy talk about it if you’d like, but lets try to get past the tough words.
It’s obvious some people don’t get as bothered as others when OU loses. That’s the truth. How am I wrong here?
Its obvious that when you are unable to convince others to your point of view, that you resort to personal attacks. There is no objective evidence to suggest level of passion or “love” for the Sooners than SamSooner. To suggest that you have more than those disagreeing with you, is cowardly and insulting. That is how you are wrong here.
SamSooner and I already talked about that and I admitted I was wrong for saying that. At least I’m man enough to admit I was wrong here. Instead, you decide to beat a dead horse into the ground and keep finding anything on here to cut me down. All because I critized the football team. So the name calling can end here buddy. Just enjoy your expectations and keep being okay with mediocrity and I’ll keep getting pissed every time OU has a crappy game or season. I don’t know you and you don’t know me, so I don’t think we will have to see each other’s reactions when OU loses their first game this year. Hopefully we will win them all, but if we do happen to lose. I’ll vent if I want to and you can ignore my venting. How’s that sound?
Just one comment.. Baylor is a great universtiy with lots of history and tradition, as well as challenging academics, they are just not all centered around football. Don’t knock them for gaining ground in the football arena too.
It’s good for them that they got better, but I’m more frustrated with our program for declining. Baylor is just an example of one of many schools that have improved over the last few years and Oklahoma, along with Texas and Nebraska have fallen deeply off the national radar.
So what’s happened to Bama? Lost to Ole Miss and got crushed in playoff and lost to us & Auburn the year before. I see a trend.
Possibly Alabama lost their hunger just like OU did a few years ago.
I see a clear pattern here.
Mack and Bob “started letting those two schools gain power”. Well that is an odd comment.
How’s that odd when both Bob and Mack Brown’s teams performed poorly and lost several times to both of those two schools? If OU and Texas had been outdoing those two schools, I wouldn’t have said that.
It’s an odd comment in the way you worded it by saying they “let” them gain power. They didn’t “let” them do anything, including beat us.
I know that you and your friend are getting a rash because Baylor has beaten us. It’s problematic for all of us.
They didn’t let them…Poor worded us on my part. They just failed brotha. That’s why Mack got booted out of Texas. That’s too much money to pay someone to “fail” that much in my opinion and apparently in the University of Texas’s opinion.
I’m not sure you want to put USC on the list of teams to compare us to. Respect for their tradition, I suppose, doesn’t apply to OU. USC has had only one season in the past 6 where they have lost fewer than 4 games, including a recent year where they lost six games. Is that really what you want for OU? I didn’t think so. If you’re going to cherry pick the flavor of the month for comparisons, you might want to leave USC out of it, for now.
I agree with that one soonermusic. Good point. However, I was trying to just say there’s certain teams that SHOULD be elite. OU and USC are two of those teams. Neither have been up to standards in the last 5-8 years. Same with Nebraska and Texas.
“We are supposed to have the guys on the field that Baylor and TCU have, but Mack Brown and Bob Stoops started letting those two schools gain power by winning recruiting battles a few years ago.”
Recruiting over last 5 years…..
OU BU
2015 15 37
2014 14 26
2013 16 27
2012 12 26
2011 13 46
Which one of those years did Bob let Baylor win the recruiting battles? TCU’s recruiting classes were worse than Baylor’s during those years, with the exception of 2011. (This info is ONLY from 247)
Mike, I don’t know if it is recruiting or development, but either way Mack Brown and Bob Stoops have failed against Baylor and TCU period. Records don’t lie brotha.
SoonerLove, are you really comparing the last eight years under Bob Stoops to the 10 years that preceded it? Really?!?!?!?!?
We averaged 6-5 during the Gibbs/Schnellenberger/Blake era, and were never ranked in the top 10. Needless to say no championships of any kind, nor any appearances in such games.
During the last eight years we have averaged 10-3, won three conference championships and been in the NCG once. Ranked in the top 10 at the end of season four times.
So basically, everything you said was false. And in no way does this recent stretch resemble the era between Barry and Bob. NO WAY!
Was last year good enough? NO! Do the vast majority of us want better than the last five even? YES! But comparable to the Gibbs/Schnelly/Blake era!!!! NO WAY! Get some perspective please.
I agree it hasn’t been as bad as the Gibbs/Schnellenberger/Blake era. However, from 2009 till now, what has OU done? Lets examine….
2009, beat an Andrew Luckless Stanford in the nobody bowl and went 8-5, being embarred to Texas Tech 41-13 during the season.
2010, lost 2 games, (one of them being embarrassed by Texas A&M) and beat UConn (a terrible football school) in the Fiesta Bowl, who hoo!!
2011, went 10-3, but got our butts embarrassed and smoked in front of the entire country to Oklahoma St. 44-10 and beat IOWA in a nobody bowl. Iowa is such great team.
2012, went 10-3 again, but got whooped by Notre Dame on our home field (31-13) and got flat out dismantled by Johnny Football (41-13).
2013, went 10-2, but got absolutely smoked by Baylor (41-12), and beat an non-motived/ hung over Alabama squad.
2014, last year, went 8-5, getting blown out again by Baylor on our home field 48-14.
Are we seeing a trend? Have you noticed there’s been a blowout every year since 2008? Is there not at least one game per year that we’ve been embarrassed by an opponent? I’m sorry, but that’s not my standards.
You went on an on about something I made no comment on. I simply, and accurately made the point that your claims above were a fallacy, and your comparative deduction plain silly.
That is all I commented on, and based on you tendancy to make personal attacks on others, I’ll end our “discussions” here.
Hit the brakes a bit. It’s not about being ok with it. It’s about understanding that you have look at Baylor for the way they are today, not 20 years ago.
You even said so: “Forever ago this would not be acceptable”.
Also, I think it’s unacceptable to up vote your own post, twice.
L’Carpetron, I couldn’t agree with you more. You even used his words against him. Bravo!
From the day I was born Kansas State never won more than six games until I was in my thirties. Under Snyder they have been pretty good Is that because we got bad or because they got better? I can remember when the same things could be said about FSU, Miami, etc. A team gets a good coach and suddenly a bad team is no longer a bad team.
Countries often lose a war because they build their army around the last war they fought. A new opponent shows up and fights a different way and they beat them. The same is true in sports, you have to play the game on today’s playing field not the one from ten years ago.
To some extent I think the drop off we have seen is because Stoops keeps thinking he can just do what brought him success without any changes. Mike is the prime example of that. Times have changed and we need to adapt. Whining because Baylor is good now isn’t the way to get there. Recognizing that Baylor is one of the main player in the Big-12 and adapting our strategies to account for that are.
Lol, “YOU PEOPLE”…
It’s official guys, Cbusta is Jim Traber.
Ha! You liked your own post. Is that because no one else did?
Pardon me for interjecting facts. Here are the recruiting rankings for the past 5 years, per 247.
OU Baylor
2015 15 37
2014 14 26
2013 16 27
2012 12 26
2011 13 46
Where we stand on Jul 13th doesn’t matter; where we stand on Feb 3rd does.
Exiled, he probably can’t wait that long.
Even Feb 3rd doesnt matter all that much; the quality of the players and how well they fit the system is what matters, not rankings.
You are making my point. We have lost to them 3 out of 4 years with “lesser” athletes now they are getting OU recruits and what’s going to happen? This program is in decline
Is that a long U or short U? Is it see-boo-stuh or see-buh-stuh?
Just curious. don’t forget to upvote your post.
You that read wrong. 2015 class ranking was OU: 15 and Baylor: 37… I know that words are hard, but it’s gonna be okay. Everything happens in cycles.
Btw, don’t forget to upvote your post.
We’re tearing that man up about upvoting his posts. I told him the same thing. He needs to change his moniker to “Upvota.”
You can live in denial but the fact is you woke up this morning and it’s not 1975.
I don’t like or understand people like you.
Life is full of adversity, learn to deal.
You are by far my favorite poster. A solid voice of reason with a wealth of knowledge.
You are far too kind.
Please feel free to stop following OU. Really. Why would you follow a team that’s in decline?
I usually don’t get involved in recruiting conversations because its mostly a gamble. But I was interested in the whole “OU getting passed up by Baylor” idea/comments. Wondering is it fact or just perception because of the way the teams perform on the field. Which doesn’t necessarily mean higher recruiting classes, but better scheme, philosophies and personnel application within that structure; best known as recruiting to the system.
I only had time to pull these stats from 24/7, hopefully some other enterprising mind can be more creative with a larger sample size. Maybe the brainiacs could look at the 4 and 5 star player development and performance comparison between the two schools within their schemes. Then point out the pros and cons of how they where utilized. Good exercise? I would prefer that to surface perceptions.
Ok so:
24/7 Recruiting Class Ranking by Year OU BU
2015 15 37
2014 14 26
2013 13 27
2012 12 26
2011 13 46
Wilson, I don’t look at recruiting as a 4 or 5 star basis, or care for ranking classes, because it’s obvious Baylor kicked Ou’s butts 2 years in a row with the players they have and beat us 3 of the last 4 meetings. That’s not a coincidence. They’re outdoing of regardless of whether the blame is recruiting, coaching, development, etc. That’s where the frustration in OU fans like me lies brah.
Hence, we have new coaches.
We got new coaches after a disappointing 2011 season and did that fix anything?
Well, I guess if we get rid of both Stoops it wouldn’t change either under that rational.
It may not, but have we ever thought, it starts with the top. If the head coach is complacent, it trickles down to the assistants and players. Not saying that’s the case, but it could be that Bob is the main issue for the decline of the program. It may not be. It may be the Big 12 conference itself. Regardless, OU needs to figure it out.
Don’t disagree. My opinion is Bob will get it turned around. Also, I really like the new coaches and heard some good stuff about them through some of the recruits.
Ya I really like the hires too. They all seem to come from a solid background and have been successful in their previous roles. It’s sounding like there’s a new attitude around the whole program. I think Bob will either sink or swim at this point. I’m with you, I’m more leaning towards him getting it turned around. I’m really pumped to see how all this plays out this season.
ok. but regardless of your criteria recruiting was sited to be the issue to the downfall of the program. I was just pointing out that maybe a more in depth look at what is the real issue would be interesting. Yep. I agree star systems are subjective and a little objective; so therefore maybe in the end it is the evaluation of that talent by the coaches as it applies to their systems. Possibly leading to the conclusion that Baylor and TCU are better at evaluating talent for their systems, which are devised in an ultimate attempt to defeat the opponent, than OU and the other Big 12 teams. There are a lot of variables that can influence the outcome of a single game or season, so to say it is isolated to one is mostly likely incorrect.
It is more constructive and interesting to me not just to point out an obvious problem but the ‘actual’ cause(s) and the means and strategy to fix it/them. Commonly known as a solution(s).
Frustration is increased when a solution is not known or explored or there is a feeling of powerlessness to make a change to a perceived solution that will assist in the desired outcome. We all as fans experience it at varying degrees (no matter the team, no matter the sport).
Again. I agree. there are no coincidences, especially when it is a demonstrated pattern.
I agree with everything you just stated. I think we all are to a degree frustrated with where the program has been over the last few years or we wouldn’t all be on here talking about it. I think all of us want to see OU win, but it is what it is and like you stated there is a powerless feeling we get as fans, because there is nothing we can do to fix the on going issues. We can only sit back and hope things get better.
I’ve posted this before and it bears a repeat. This chart plots average Rivals rankings and average poll rankings from 2009 to 2013. This chart should be updated.
Many of the teams that are now “good” are those that are better on the field than in recruiting.
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Interesting. Especially the teams that are at the seemingly break even point..
For the past three years, it seems no matter who OU’s defensive line coach is there hasn’t been enough reckless gap penetration or movement. – (Super K)
Amen!
Sounds to me that the D-Line coach is not the one making the decision on that.
I’m not that surprised about Shannon. I think he will be a backup this year and I thought he was eventually going to be a backup last year because Evans was considered the backup and he’s probably their best ILB. Now with all the LB getting some praise for improving then I think it’s going to be hard for Shannon to get his spot back.
Shannon > Alexander but he probably is a bit slow from missing practice time and should be forced to retake the #1 spot rather than it just be handed to him.
Exactly. But ignorant people will take the new practice news and attack the coaches. Fickle people, I tell ya
He may be a better fundamental player and if so then he needs to be on the field but I think Alexander is the better player in space. I never really trusted Shannon in coverage or trying to make a play in the open field. He was very good against the run though.
to be honest I dont like seeing either in coverage
First off, please understand that I am with you in thinking that people need to give Dom more respect. Second, please understand that I understand that the play I’m about to mention was from his freshman year.
The play in the SB when Henry caught a pass in the flats and just blew Dom away still gives me nightmares.
I do not understand why people think Shannon is better than Alexander? Alexander started as a true Freshman. This will be his Jr year. We know Alexander has been small for a LB but he also is always around the ball. If it is true that Alexander put on a lot of good weight this year then, Shannon is not better.
People seem to forget that Shannon had issues as a LB as well. Last year Shannon was better than Alexander. Unfortunately Shannon did not get to play. This year my money is on Alexander.
They’re both good, but differently.
“I do not understand why people think Shannon is better than Alexander?”
Game tape.
And I say that w/ the qualifier I don’t think Shannon is a true “star” LB (at least on the caliber of previous, even some recent history, OU LBs) either.
I disagree. Shannon was bigger and more powerful than DOM but DOM was always near the ball. While his size has been a big issue his skills for getting to the ball have not. If DOM has put on the good weight and his body has developed as reported he will be the better LB of the two. I believe DOM has the better talent. Also Shannon has been out for a year. I know he will get back in football shape quickly but it will put him behind a bit. Obviously this is the opinion of a man who never played college Football or coached football above a 5th grade level.
Shannon is always by the ball too and is great or at least better against the run. I think he had 9 total and 3.5 sacks in 2013. But I never liked Shannon sideline to sideline he’s just not fast enough.
I respect your opinion, I just don’t happen to agree w/ it. Although I will say I’d LOVE for Alexander to change my mind this year.
He is definitely not Curtis Lofton
Agree. Dom was forced to play as a true freshman b/c of the injury to Corey Nelson. He was not ready at the time. He got accolades b/c he had lots of tackles, but far too many were 8 yards downfield as teams, esp texass, ran right at him. He’s gotten better, and it’s a credit to Kish that both Dom and Jordan Evans have looked good at LBer.
I’ve said it before, and still believe that Shannon will start at his old Mike position and Jordan will stay at Will where he played in the spring. Dom will play but not start.
We’re finally getting some good depth at LBer, but still need to sign 3 or 4 this year.
I never understood why Dom got the job over Aaron Franklin. Franklin was a little bigger, faster and had some game experience.
We have a problem getting all our good linebackers on the field? I blame Kish.
Kish is probably to blame for hurricane Katrina as well
And the tornados, don’t forget about that
Nah the tornadoes were Mike Stoops fault. If he had better coverage everyone wouldve been able to know ahead of time
Off the wall question…..Does anyone know what Shannon is weighing in at these days?
A recent photo shows him looking pretty thick..Id guess around 250+-
As a non-licensed fansician, I recommend all defensive heavies take a heaping portion of anger every morning with a side of a small pig. This can be supplemented with two scoops of rage every two hours but not after 5:00 PM.
RR, most prescription have a daily recommended limit. Are there any?
Oh, by the way, I was out of town this past Friday. I did read your second entry. That was funny as all get-out. Keep them coming.
Lol! Glad you enjoyed it, Sam. And no more than three pigs in one sitting. Coach Tiff’s orders.
Coach Tiff needs to put some meat on those skewers and not just fruit.
I like it. And not kabobs, but cow-bobs.
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EasTex, what’s up. Glad you’re here.
Howdy!
Not much, just trying to get back into the daily grind and waiting out the 48 days to high school football and 54 days for Sooner football.
You’re the man. I am anticipating the start of football season also. I will be flying into Austin, that’s going to hurt, soon I will be there August 3-5. How close are you to Austin? Maybe we can meet for a glass of sweet tea and tater tots rubbed with bacon.
From where I am in Far North Dallas, it is at least a 3 hour drive to Austin, but I forbade myself from ever going to Austin 29 years ago, so there is that. Then there is the issue of the 3-5 being M-W, some of my busiest work days.
I will give you some recommendations though, as I’ve been told they are still in business. For breakfast there is the Omelettry, the ginger bread pancakes will knock your socks off. Then there is El Arroyo and their BBQ chicken soft tacos. For pizza there is Conan’s, their Savage on whole wheat makes the angels sing.
Thank you , sir. I will make arrangements with my peers to attend one, if not all, of these eateries. Maybe next time.
Don’t forget the “Hater Tots”
Well…that’s a given. 🙂
Did you catch Part 2 of the Stephen Dale saga?
I caught up to it yesterday.
Funny tale, just not that interesting of a subject.
“not that interesting of a subject.” exactly
I’ve said all along Obo will become an All-American before he leaves Norman. I still truly believe that he will be a better version of Geneo
Obo and bond will see the field mainly on Nascar blizzes
Hey everyone, Cbusta, the upvota, is back. Clown troll.
I hates clowns!!! Now can’t get this image out of my head…happy thoughts…happy thoughts…lol
That’s funny.
Who are the receivers working with the ones. Specifically any news on Jeff Mead
Did the dead period end this morning?? If so, where are the coaches heading?
Free Soonerscoop story on Chris Robison and some other OU offers.
https://oklahoma.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1782422
Good article and video interview.
Truth: “We’ll see what, if anything, changes once they put the pads on this fall.”
I would love to see our front 7 start attacking with more than 3 DLs and Striker. If our front 7 would attack more it would take some heat off our CBs and safeties. As Buddy Ryan said, “To stop a passing game, you can’t stop it unless you put pressure on it..If we have to send eight, we’ll send eight, but we’re not going to let you sit back there and pick us apart all day.” I couldn’t agree more.
That’s why the Nascar package is so effective bringing bond, obo and striker off the edge
NASCAR Package. I like it.
Today I was talking about knight at work and how no one wants to see him play another down for OU. Then I got to thinking, we all know that tk9 best performance was the sugar bowl. I think that was the closest game plan to what Lincoln riley is going to run, that knight has ever ran. If you remember that offense was nothing like what we’ve seen the last 2 years. There were a lot of quick routes with run after catch possibilities. They also used the running game just to keep bama honest.
So I still don’t get why most are convinced that knight can’t succeed in a quicker offense. He’s shown his capability before and had his best game running a similar plan.
I think he can be a really good QB, gotta be more accurate and not lock onto where he is throwing
Also, what made that work is we threw on 1st down the majority of time for quick 5 – 8 yards. Ref would set the ball down and it was snapped within a couple of seconds to an open WR. No looking around, no bs, quick pass.
Normally, we run right up the middle after looking on the sideline 2 – 3 times on 1st down and it’s always 2nd and long.
I think TK has a chance to be great if the defensive reads are simplified and play options are quick and clear. It is on him to correct his accuracy and decision making. I feel his biggest obstacle will be staying healthy.
sometimes I wondered if getting the play with 9 seconds on the play clock gave him time to make some presnap decisions. Its doubtful he couldve
I have to agree with you. My biggest complaint was that Heupel tried to make the presnap reads and decisions for the QB and did not give them enough play-clock time to decide for themselves.
Yeah, that happened a lot. then Knight would look panicked as he got ready for the snap
You could definitely tell a difference between Sugar Bowl TK9 (a game I’ve watched more times than I can count on my fingers and toes) and 2014 TK9. Seemed calm when audibling (I think that’s right) during the SB but extremely panicked and kinda hopped and danced around in other games due to short time to make calls
Im hoping we see the calm and collected Knight…Mayfields numbers from Tech dont get me excited, he was fairly poor against decent competition except Baylor
Yeah, I don’t want the hype to get too loud. I think that the competition will only drive them to get better though. I think that in a spread/air raid (whatever you wanna call it) system will only benefit the offensive players on the field by allowing the QB to find the best option available instead of forcing plays
I’ve withheld judging Mayfield on his TT numbers because he was straight out of high school. He’s had a couple years to watch the speed of the D-1 game, study film, and work on technique. If or when he gets a chance, I would hope and expect to see a different QB.
I’ll try to give him the benefit of the doubt
I also wouldn’t give him much praise until he actually does some good things for us on the field.
Baylor had to beat OSU to be bowl eligible that year.
That “check with me” killed us several times.
agreed
I have a buddy who ran a system in high school where the coach would call the next 5 plays for the offense and giving the QB the ability to audible from the line (no sideline checks). They managed to rack up the points and beat my school by almost 70
I watched some Perine highlights the other day. There were plays where he was still looking at the sideline when the ball was snapped. How can a QB read the defense when he has no time pre snap to do so?
Exactly, that’s not on the QB.
Several times per drive you mean… Seriously it was related to about 3/4 of Landrys head scratching plays
Well, you know me. I had to leave some room there so you could comment. 🙂
Or there’s the wait wait wait, hurry up & snap 1 yd gain up the middle
Accuracy comes with better footwork. We will be in a system that has a flow or rhythm which will enable the QB to better use his footwork. Riley will focus on their drops which will create better and more accurate passes. Also, this type of offense builds confidence in the QB.
Agree.
The moment you mentioned the…(checks to make sure that I’m still going to write this post as intended or write something else)…checking at the line my eyes started bleeding. Never really liked that, when it spent a lot of time.
If the QB is doing it, there is still a rhythm to the play unlike JH days.
People have complained about every OC we’ve had at OU in this regards (ie, getting plays in late). It’s a part of the spread. I believe in 2008 when we set all kinds of records, weren’t we doing a lot of the meercat(sp) stuff? Just gotta have a QB that can get it done.
Well, there’s been a few signs lately that TK could be our QB so his staying healthy is definitely a concern. Mayfield is the one not throwing right now. Maybe we haven’t even seen Knight at his best yet, and he can be better than in the Sugar Bowl. Maybe Baker will get over his fatigue (or whatever) and become the best option in Riley’s system. Maybe Cody will beat them both out! So many maybes. We’ll see. I’m looking forward to finding out, and I’m going to support whichever man the coaches decide will give us the best chance for success. Come on, August 5!
Hurt. Heuple was hurt, played threw it. White busted 2 ACL’s and his hand was so hurt for the LSU game that he wouldn’t shake hands during the Heisman. Bradford, shoulder. Injuries are a part of it but with this system, you don’t have to be great to make it roll. Others can fill in. Whoever heard of the QBs at tech or Baylor? No one but the system they are in works.
Agree about staying healthy. He does have a God given ability to make plays. I think his biggest hurdle may be in his own head.
And adjusting his feet.
Well while you make valid points about TK9 you could have argued that same think about why Josh Heupel was fired. If they wanted to run the spread JH could have done a better job as OC. Realistically I think people REALLY want a change and we have all been disappointed by Knights performance. So for me it’s less about Trevor and more about change and the excitement of something new (starting qb).
after some 2nd thoughts about the ‘run & shoot’ offense, I think OU is going to a system best fitted for the level of talent on campus….doesn’t take a pro quality QB to run it nor does it take pro quality receivers—–just a guy who can throw short, quick, accurate passes and some quick, fast receivers for YAC…..supplement with RB’s who can catch the ball in space plus one or two who can run between the tackles, and you have an offense that will move the ball between the 20 yd lines……its that last 20 yds , though…..
update added
Thank you Jordan! Appreciated as always
Well, if you don’t offer you drop your chances to zero. 🙂
Kids a stud…..no way he gets out of that state.
Well, evidently he recently almost committed to Georgia. But if you expand the parameters to include SEC country, then I’d very much agree w/ you.
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meh.
And if Trevor had won you guys would mention how it’s not under the lights and is essentially just practice
The competition was accuracy! Knight won’t win an accuracy contest.
Gotta play it 1st. I don’t remember having stats to start a season or competition. I had to earn them
lol…..what, you mean Knight didn’t excel at an accuracy based throwing competition? I’m stunned, stunned I tell you.
Sad thing is that OU football identity is becoming “would a, could a, should a” ! What a shame we used to not make excuses Stoops said???
Why start now?
We must be getting close to football season. People are getting a little cantankerous out there.
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One of the greatest characters of all time.
He was the best of the bunch.
Kinda of a random question, but is DeShawn Lookout no longer a football recruit, but strictly baseball? Wasn’t he a commit at one time if I remember correctly?
DeShawn Lookout was never a football commit. He is a baseball commit who also plays WR but would be coming on a baseball schollie and would therefore not be able to get even play football at all until he had competed in Baseball one full season, unless there has been a recent rule change that I am unaware of. He is not a D1 player, in my opinion, but would be a welcome walk-on who could add depth to our receiving corp.
update added I think you all will like
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Any update on Dalton Wood?
still no change
So it’s still unclear whether he will be apart of the team this year?
Correct.
on a different note, for those following the tdf, the grueling and dangerous mountain stages start tomorrow…….interesting article on the descent………..http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB12268843614978254751404581042321720914358
Interesting…(I know its BR but still)
https://twitter.com/DamonSayles/status/620715959339225089
Hey K, Brandon, Jordan, or anyone in the know, is there any chance Little would give OU an official or come up for a game since he is good buddies with the Evans brothers? I know it’s a long shot, but wanted to see if you all had any insider info. Thanks.
He has already committed to Bama put this one back in the books.
where has he said this? thanks
Well maybe I jumped the gun it’s not official but he is going to Bama they seem to know it on there boards and after he took his visit there a week later he decommitted from the Aggies so….
He’s going to Auburn too. Someone needs to steer him over by O-line U there in Norman. Want to be a top 5 pick son?
Question for the Braniacs here…
I looked up the Youngquist kid and was wondering why a lot of the bigger schools aren’t on him? Don’t get me wrong he has some heavyweight offers (us and Oregon) but his offer list looks a bit different to me than other top 152 type guys. Illinois, San Diego St., Nevada are up at the top and I don’t see a UCLA, USC or even a Cal which struck me as weird. Talent rich state, heavily desired position eligibility and some freaky stats yet no Bama, USC, LSU, OSU, etc? I was just wondering why some seem to be avoiding this kid or am I just being stupid? Honest question…thanks!
Size could be one issue, they list him at 6’1″ but that’s probably stretching it. As far as USC and UCLA are concerned, USC is stacked at LB especially in 2015 (Freshmen)…all who stand 6’3″ or more, with UCLA it could be the same thing, it may just come down to numbers. He has a nice list going for him though.
Since this is a slow sports time in the year, I’m watching some of our former ladies play some pro soft ball on CBS sports…..game just started.
Thanks man, turned it on just in time to see Lauren come to bat.
Pendley home run!
That was Sweet. Was watching while making my lunch for tomorrow. Pendley seems to have adjusted quite well to the pro environment.
Dang, missed it.
Cleaning the kitchen after my T-Bone dinner so I can watch Swamp People.
Hadn’t had a T-Bone in a while, I had to gnaw the bone the thing was so good.
Hopefully, you caught the nice double next at bat.
Steak sounds good, tots go great with pretty much everything. 🙂
I went with the salt crusted baked tater, salad and thousand islands dressing. Oh and garlic Texas toast.
If I lived anywhere close to North Dallas, I would be there for dinner daily……. (was that enough .’s?) Garlic is another thing that is absolutely great on just about everything. Love sea salted with garlic seasoning tots. mmmmmm heaven on earth. Good night my brother, 3am alarm isn’t the problem, it is the going to be at 10pm. lol
I know the early to bed…early to rise routine quite well.
Be safe out there.
I posted this already on the news channel, but will post again here for those that missed it.
G-Day minus 54.
Lot of good players to choose from, but will go with the All-Americans, there were 4 Sooners to be voted consensus All-Americans.
Jimbo Elrod
G-Day minus 54.
Lot of good players to choose from, but will go with
the All-Americans, there were 4 Sooners to be voted consensus
All-Americans.
Tom Brahaney
My room mate at OU was fairly good friends with Tom Brahaney. That kid was a player.
G-Day minus 54.
Lot of good players to choose from, but will go with
the All-Americans, there were 4 Sooners to be voted consensus
All-Americans.
Bob Harrison
G-Day minus 54.
Lot of good players to choose from, but will go with
the All-Americans, there were 4 Sooners to be voted consensus
All-Americans.
Tom Catlin
Good job, BC.
So many AA’s to wear that one jersey.
OLU!
Some names for #53… Jerry Tubbs /Jody Farthing / Jeep Dewberry.
Thanks EasTex
Thank you +1000.
Nila may be the next great if he can stay healthy this season.
Unlike some here, I really like Darlington. I watched the 2012 BU highlights last night, that was Ty’s first start as a freshman. He was outstanding, technically. He has always been sound technically and now that he has gotten a full grown man’s body this could be a great year for him.
As for injuries, we all know they will come and is always the variable that has to be adjusted to. Looking back at the 2000 national championship team, winning it was miraculous in many ways not the least being not one starter on the O or the D was lost to injury the entire season. I don’t think that has happened since for OU.
It takes a total team effort to win it all and a boat load of good fortune.
Jeep Dewberry? Really? Amazing! When did he play?
He was Jack Mildren’s center.
http://soonerstats.com/football/players/details.cfm?PlayerID=431#.VaUYRZNnpQo
That’s amazing. I didn’t know that. What a name! It ranks up there among the most memorable. Thanks. Good stuff.
Bama taking over Texass?
Link?
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I wonder why everyone who is frustrated with the football program right now is labeled either a bad fan or not a fan at all? I don’t get why everyone is so mad over some deserving criticism of the football program. I love my Sooners and always will cheer the loudest I can, throw on my Crimson and Cream apparel, and proudly say I’m a Sooner. However, it’s like when you have a child and your child starts doing drugs or something destructive…Do you continue to just sit there and act like everything is okay or do you show your love and care by admitting there is a problem and try voicing your care and concerns. That’s an extreme example, I know. However, it’s all I could think to make you guys realize that I love my team, but can’t stand seeing them in bad shape.
I know we’re not in the shape that we were in the 90’s (at least right yet), but we are an average-below average football program right now. To me, it’s almost as sickening to watch us be average-below average as it is to be how we were in the 90’s. It’s not fun to see guys missing tackles right and left, guys huffing and puffing after half of the first quarter, guys playing 15 yards off the WR’s, guys (other than Zach Sanchez) unable to intercept a football, no pressure on the QB, no one able to cause a fumble, no one (other than Sterling Shepard) able to catch a pass, interceptions being thrown left and right, getting blown out at least one or two games the last 7 seasons. Is that what you people enjoy watching???? OU needs to be where they were in the 50’s, 70’s, 80’s and early 2000’s period. That’s Sooner football. That’s the bar Bud, Barry, and even Bob himself set for this football program. That’s why there are fans like me that expect greatness and toughness. That’s why we’re not going to settle for mediocrity.
Do you go on drug user websites and repeatedly tell your son he sucks at using drugs or he sucks cause he uses drugs. You’ve spent all damn day tearing down the team. If you were my dad I’d probably use drugs
Please.
Yep. You’re right. You guys and trolls have a lot in common. You bash anything and everything. I can’t tell the difference. We should all sit back and enjoy the ambiance as you guys fart fire at everybody. Some of you wanna burn it all down. Some of you wanna burn bobs house down. Some of you wanna fire everybody. Mostly it sounds like a bunch of schoolgirls whining about acne and boys
Why you getting hostile at me? Lol I posted that as more of a joke but if you wanna squab I’ll throw down I’ll get all kinds of keyboard warrior up in this here!
You sure you wanna rodeo with this cowboy?
The classic chicken vs the egg conundrum!
Troll someone else
What—-I’m agreeing with you for once!
It was probably a bad example to use a father-child drug scenario, because this is a football team’s record we’re discussing over a real life threatening situation. My point is that I’m frustrated over the losses. I think SoonerSam said it best when he said everyone reacts differently. I don’t think it makes you, him or I any less or more of a fan here. I think we just have different emotions and reactions towards the wins/ losses. Nothing wrong with that brotha. We can all agree to disagree and still cheer loudly and proudly come Sept. 6th.
SoonerLove, you and I have had our exchange today that didn’t go well. But we agreed not to make it personal, moving forward. We agreed to debate football. It would appear you’ve thought about this quite a bit today, which has led you to this post.
Using your example, the best thing you can do if your child is on drugs is to hug them. That’s my opinion and I’m not asking you to agree.
I have a brother, who has never used drugs but he lived a rough life. I was always afraid we’d get the news he’d been killed. Thankfully, he turned his life around and got his act together. I tease him today about his former life style. We can laugh about it. I’ve never not loved my brother but some times it was tough to love him.
I didn’t quit on him. I rooted for him. Regardless of what he was like during that dark time, I could only think about what he was like before and I believed he would be that way again. He was selfless, gave you his last of anything he had if you needed it and he was always there for me. That, and in itself, was enough for him to earn my support.
My kids love him. When I visit my family, in Georgia, we spend lots of time at his home, with his wife and family.
My point is this: bad things are going to happen. It’s a fact. Without pain how can you express joy? I’m still a Sooner fan. I’m not going to say I’m more of a fan than anyone on this site. No one should say I’m any less of a fan because I don’t share the thought that OU should not be losing games or recruiting battles to Baylor and TCU.
We all believe what we believe. If someone can’t be convinced to change their way of thinking, it seems to me, the reasonable thing to do is not to try and convince someone to their way of thinking.
Let’s all agree that we are OU fans and we want the team to win. If a win doesn’t happen, let’s respect the way each individual decides to handle a loss/win.
SoonerSam, I enjoyed debating with you today. I apologize for initiating the negativity and saying you were being a homer. I think you are right in the fact that everyone has different emotions and reacts differently to the wins/ losses. I agree that we can all respect each others opinions and that no one is more or less of a fan based on how they react to the wins losses. I think we all care and want to see OU do good. We may not agree on the best aproach on how our football will win, but that’s the fun of the debate. There’s definitely no need to get mad if someone thinks a new coach or a new direction is the best way to fix it or there’s no need for anyone, including myself to be upset if you guys think OU is fine doing what they’re doing. It’s all good. I respect all you guys. I mainly just wanted a debate due to the fact that it’s July and we’re still 2 months from kickoff, so there is nothing to talk about.
It’s all good. No worries.
What I find so difficult to understand is how personal it is to some when OU had a bad year. I’ve been on this wonderful ride with OU for 59 years, with Bud, Chuck, Barry and Bob, with many other names I choose not to mention.
Why all the groaning and moaning for months on end about how one’s perception of the program is in fact the state of the program.
What has worked for me is I have my life, which isn’t directly related to or impacted by the OU football program. OU football is something I have enjoyed since I was five years old and always will. Win or lose I will still look forward to each new season and each game with the same level of enthusiasm as I have for nearly six decades. If they lose a game I am not happy, I seethe for about an hour, I keep it to myself in my private life and I don’t take that anger to any message board. After about an hour I’m over it and move on to the important things in my life and check the schedule for the next game.
What you will or will not settle for concerning OU football is up to you, but I think you may have your priorities out of order if you believe others should believe as you do or that your pixels here have any influence on OU football.
My self esteem isn’t linked to OU football in any way, it is a pleasure that I look forward to each year. The last time I was devastated by an OU loss was when I was a 7 year old and the 47 game streak ended. I don’t behave or get as emotional now as I did then. What makes me angriest is when alleged fans believe they are owed something from the school, coaches and players who are trying their very best. No one bleeds, sweats or aches more than the coaches or players and no one feels a loss or a bad season as personally as them.
It’s okay for someone to have a different passion or feeling towards football than you. It’s okay to vent some frustration as a fan. That doesn’t mean I’m an “alleged fan” or a baby. That doesn’t mean I need a lecture or a chew out session from you. That my friend is way more immature than anything I’ve said today. I can be frustrated with my team and vent my frustration in any way shape or form. That’s part of freedom of speech. You can choose not to read my post if it bothers you. That’s your right.
Haha. Eastex more immature than you? Try again hoss
To passive agressively name call and say I’m acting like a baby for voicing my opinion? boomersooner I wish I could ignore your posts too. You’re really annoying. Hoss?? You sound like a hick from the sticks. Brah, who says hoss these days?
I annoy you? That’s good. That’s why I’m here. You haven’t been here long. Some of us have been here since this place started. Most people with thought processes like yours bring these types of places down. I’m trying to keep one of these for the good guys. I don’t wanna come to a place and listen to “we suck, burn it down, fire him, he can’t coach, he can’t play” etc etc every single solitary day. Its old, it’s stale. Give it a freaking rest. If that makes me board police, so be it. I, and a lot of others are sick and tired of all the whining. Grow up. Hopefully this doesn’t hurt your wittle feewings
So you own this website? Oh wait, are you the government telling me I can’t say what I want to say when I want to say it. Who died and made you the God of this website? Who cares if I got on here on damn day and made some critical comments about OU. It obviously hut your wittle feewings, you poor baby. You can’t handle a few critical words for one damn day, so you gotta act like a baby and try to tell me I have no right to post on here. Well I have news for your brother. It’s a free country and I can post on a public site if I want. I have not said anything vulgar. I have only been a critical about OU, but your wimpy butt can’t take it. I feel so sorry for anyone that cuts you off on the interstate, cuts in line at the grocery store, hell looks at your wrong in the mall. Heaven forbid, someone pisses you off.
It’s not one day. Its every single day. You’re in a long line of obnoxious troll types who come on here like somebody owes em something. We are not your bartender. Tell him not us. Write a letter to the school. Write one to Bob. You guys bash and bash and don’t know a damn thing you’re talking about. Try this. You go your way I’ll go mine. Hopefully your 1st day here is your last
Boomersooner, this isn’t my first day here. I’ve posted many positive things before. I had a few negative things to say today and you couldn’t take it. That’s being a baby. If you choose to just jump on negative posts and lose sleep over it, you’re the one with the problem. People have a write to be positve or negative and you can freaking ignore it and pay attention to the positive posts only. Jeez. I agree. Don’t comment on my stuff no more, I wont comment on yours. Peace out brah….
I definitely don’t lose sleep over knuckleheads especially fickle fairweathers. The world has zero use for people who feel the need to bash a player or coach to feel better about themselves. So I go out of my way to give you a taste of what that’s like and you are annoyed and pissed. Now you know what it feels like. You can say and do whatever the hell you want. You have a “right” to your opinion and I have a right to tell you yours sucks
True. But did you hurt my feelings? Am I still gonna cuddle up next to my beautiful, sexy girl tonight? I am going to my awesome job tomorrow? Did you change the way I feel? Are you going to do anything to affect my life in any kind of way? The answers are…No, Yes, Yes, No, and No….With that said, you can get the last word in and comment on this baby sissy loser, but I’m going to bed next to my sexy baby and getting my coffee and going to work in the morning. I will have forgotten every damn word you said by 3:00 tomorrow. I’m glad I have more of a life than to waste any more time with you loser
Haha. That’s a solid response. What times recess? How bout an “I know you are but what am I” for good measure. Thanks for the rundown of your life. I might add a chapter in my book on you and your awesomeness. Tell sexy baby we said hey
I’m sorry I have a job and you live in mamas basement dreaming of the girl I’m with tonight or better yet all the girls I’ve had in this beautiful city and country. It’s sad that you’re going to go to bed thinking of oh my Gosh I wonder what this guy does for a living or how sexy his girl really is? Maybe one day I’ll send you a link to my facebook so you can see it’s all true brotha. Until then, you can just sit in mamas basement all night dreaming and wishing you had my life. I’ll tell your momma hey next week.
Wow. So cool. Tell me more of how young you are. I’m so intrigued. A picture of some broad in some magazine does not a girlfriend make. What’s your summer job? If it’s anything more than scraping poo off something I’ll be shocked
LOL lets just say I’m proud of my job and love my job. Love my sexy girl. I don’t have to say what I do, but it’s definitely a yearly salary that got me a bad ass convertible luxury car, contemporary home that I just moved into last year, and I live comfortable with the best benefits a company could provide in the entire city. Definitely a job that I am very blessed with and as for my girl…Lets just say that body gets stared at everywhere we go. She is constantly being gawked at and drooled over. She makes me very happy. Not only is she sexy, she’s smart, funny, and fun to be around. I’m blessed man. I am so thankful I’ve been given everything I have. With that said, you can choose to believe it or not, but I know my life and that’s all that matters to me.
I just had my cup of coffee, ready to do my thing in the office, slept really good next to baby doll…Life is good brah. Life is good….Have a wonderful day. Hope you empty a lot of trash cans and clean up a lot of vomit.
I may seem forceful in my comment, but it was not intended to be a lecture or a put down.
I was just expressing my opinion and perspective. Whether you take anything positive from me is entirely up to you.
I am fairly private and don’t vent for others to see, which is why it is an annoyance to me when others do.
That’s fine if you are private. I on the other hand am very vocal in my opinion. If it annoys you than you don’t have to read it or comment on it. That’s all I’m saying.
I didn’t say anything earlier today and wouldn’t have until you decided to bring it back up again tonight.
Anyone can express their opinion, whether they are validated or not is up to the audience.
I don’t mind that you voiced your opinion on my post tonight. That’s perfectly fine. I just think it came across as a chew out towards me. I understand that you disagree with what I said and that’s fine. We have different passions/ emotions towards OU winning/ losing. I get upset for an hour too and then go about my night enjoying my Saturday nights after a loss. I don’t let it affect my life in any way shape or form. However, I don’t see anything wrong with me to throw out a few critical comments in a one day blog.
There isn’t anything wrong with expressing your opinion as long as you realize there are going to be many others that don’t coincide for a multitude of reasons.
As for the use of the word “alleged” I think you took that more personally than intended, you probably aren’t aware of how many “burn it down” types that have come here.
I guess you guys are fed up with the negativity and I understand that. I wasn’t trying to rouse you guys or upset you guys. I just simply stated my thoughts on a public website and did a little venting. I knew a lot would disagree, but wanted to debate for the fun of it. I really think I had a healthy debate with you and SoonerSam. However, boomersooner got way too emotional. You and SoonerSam kept your composure and gave a healthy heated debate. It was fun guys, but I’m ready to move on.
EasTex, it’s no wonder most everyone gravitates to you. You are one of the few people here that I will almost, always, read what you post. There are others, and you know who you are, that I respect. But you, my friend, are someone who knows how to put living and life in the proper perspective. If I may psycho-analyze, though I don’t have the credentials, I trust my instincts: you are someone who intends to live and take the best that life has to offer and not wonder if you missed out on something: hence, you enjoy food and friends.
I thank you for your level-headedness. Balance is required to have the proper perspective on things good and bad. You have that.
I feel the same way. Well said.
Slim, thanks but it’s true.
Absolutely true.
You are very kind to say that.
Believe me though, you wouldn’t want to sit next to me at a game. I am very loud and get caught up in the action. After the game I’m just a big teddy bear.
Funny and humble. I will be in Norman for the tOSU game in 2016. Let’s meet up for tater tots rubbed with bacon.
That would be great. Is there a date for that game yet?
I will check and get back with you.
Found it.
Saturday 17 Sep 2016, the Sooners third game of the year.
Let’s do it, then.
The Good Lord willing.
It isn’t easy to plan so far ahead anymore. I’m not even certain what I will have for dinner yet, after last nights feast. LOL!
This is one of the best posts I’ve seen on any Sooner forum (& I have frequented many over the years). I share this perspective with you Eas Tex & most of what you said translates not to just Sooner Football but to life in general. Perspective people… Get some, and enjoy the ride.
On a side note, love to buy you a beer someday sir. You bring a lot to this site & it is much appreciated my friend.
Boomer
I appreciate the kind words and the beverage offer. Make it sweet iced tea and you have a deal. 🙂
Well you definitely lost me when you said “average-below average program right now”
We just had our worst year in a long time ( thats only one year mind you ) and we were 8-5. Any “average to below average” team would kill for 8-5. So really after that statement you kind of lost some credibility. At least as far as Im concerned.
You think we will see much of a two tight end set this year or even at all? Unless Big Ben can pull off another miracle with the O line I think there is so much inexperience on the O front and with our issues at QB it makes me wonder, or better yet maybe we will see flowers and periene in the backfield together al this just to get the offense in a flow….
He’s a gem, that EasTex.
I see you all have had a very productive day. Glad we could get this all settled once and for all. *tongue firmly in cheek*
“Truthfully, I think the more important aspect of what they’re doing is
that the front generally be more aggressive. For the past three years,
it seems no matter who OU’s defensive line coach is there hasn’t been
enough reckless gap penetration or movement. – (Super K)”
They WERE aggressive, in Jerry Montgomery’s first year when he switched us to a 1-gap.
Then Mike Stoops made the team switch back to a 2-gap.