Image of Raleigh Texada via scout.com
– D-line coach search: Admittedly, this won’t be much of an update as we cannot share with you a list of names being considered. But with the Mike Pelton development yesterday, everyone started to assume a hire was likely imminent. And we are expecting (as is pretty much everyone else) a hire will come by the end of this week. But according to what we have been told, as of last night there had yet to be an official offer made to any candidate.
– Jeffrey Okudah: I (Alex) Was able to catch up with 2017 South Grand Prairie ATH Jeffrey Okudah tonight, who was in Norman this past Sunday for OU’s Junior Day. Okudah said he was with Mike Stoops, Kerry Cooks & Chip Viney the majority of the day. He also mentioned that he really liked what he saw while on the visit, particularly Coach Cooks and the fact that he will be responsible for coaching the entire secondary. And as you may have seen yesterday, Okudah picked up an OU offer and it was in fact Cooks who reached out to him to do so.
But back to the visit. While in Norman, Okudah was drawing interest from a couple OU coaches. One of whom was Mike Stoops, who told Okudah he envisions him as an OLB in OU’s 3-4 defense. Meanwhile, Cooks is looking at him as more of a safety.
At the moment, Okudah stands 6’1” 200 pounds so there is some thought he could eventually outgrow the safety position. He did tell me, however, that Cooks is his main recruiter at this point. And while did leave Norman on Sunday without an offer, which he was disappointed about at the time, as mentioned above less than 24 hours later he no longer had a reason to be disappointed. He expressed to me a bit of surprise by the offer as he was of the mindset having left Norman without one, that it probably wouldn’t happen until the spring evaluation period. With an offer now in hand, Okudah said the Sooners are definitely among his top schools at the moment.
An interesting thing to watch with Okudah is that he is working with Clay Mack of QuickTwitch to work on his cover skills, with the intention of possibly playing some CB next year. In fact, he was seen on social media recently holding his own against some current college WRs. Those of you that know about Mack, know of his reputation as one of the best DB trainers out there. He’s a guy that can get you right for the next level. So getting this work in will only help Okudah’s overall ability and coverage skills going into his junior year.
– JP Urquidez: The 2016 Copperas Cove (TX) offensive lineman has been busy during his offseason. Between moving and making multiple unofficial visits to a variety of colleges, his schedule has been rather full. But it was the move that has actually played somewhat to OU’s advantage. The relative proximity has allowed Bill Bedenbaugh to stop by a couple of times in recent months, and the two have quickly built a strong relationship.
Urquidez was originally planning to attend OU’s March 7th Junior Day, but wound up changing his plans and coming up to Norman with his family this past weekend. When I (Brandon) spoke with him following the visit, Urquidez described it as “amazing” and also said meeting Lincoln Riley was something that really stood out. In fact, Riley spent the better part of the day with JP and his family, really making them feel at home as the 2016 OT described it. But it was Bob Stoops who may have made the biggest impression with the family, specifically mom, with JP telling me she “loves him” when referring to the OU head coach.
I (Brandon) will say that from all the conversations I’ve had with JP, you can definitely tell OU is going to be in this one until the end.
– Raleigh Texada: The 2016 Frisco (TX) defensive back is the brother of current TCU corner Ranthony Texada, so one might naturally assume he is a huge Horned Frogs lean. And that may be the case, but in speaking with him it definitely seems as though he’d still be open to other schools. In fact, he was somewhat of a surprise visitor to OU’s Junior Day this past weekend.
I (Brandon) asked him about his time in Norman, and he said it went great. “I was invited, so I thought why not show up and see what’s going on?” He is a very candid young man, so I wanted to get his thoughts on OU’s recent defensive backs coaching hire. “I appreciate the fact coach Cooks showed interest in me and thought enough of me to invite me to their Junior Day. He shared info with me on what he is looking for (from his players) as secondary coach, as well.” He then said that he really likes OU and thought the junior day was great.
Texada does not currently hold an OU offer, but he said he is very interested in the Sooners. That, in itself, is a testament to Cooks, who even in his short time in Norman is already making his presence felt.
– UPDATE (1:50 pm): I (Brandon) just wanted to briefly respond to some talk out there that started today after a report from Texas’ Rivals site regarding 2016 OU commit, Jean Delance. Here is the reality of the situation – He committed early and during the next better part of a year, he’s probably going to look around at some other schools. Does that mean his ‘recruitment is still open’ as was apparently suggested in this report? I suppose for some who may or may not have an agenda for doing so, sure, that’s possible.
But as I have said here and on Twitter a number of times, Delance remains fully committed to OU at this time. I can’t predict the future and guarantee you that will never change, but I do know the young man personally and speak with him almost daily. So when I reassure you of his commitment, I can promise you I’m doing so straight from the young man himself. In fact, when this report was brought to my attention I shot Delance a quick text about it. Here was his reply: “That is is not true. I don’t even know that guy. I hate when people hear stuff and spin my words.”
So there you have it. Nothing has changed, he is still solid to OU. Yes, he has taken some other visits and will likely continue to listen to other coaching staffs. He, or any recruit for that matter, would be doing himself a disservice by not doing so.
Hopefully that clears things up for anyone out there who may have been curious about where he stands right now.
– UPDATE (2:51 pm): OU has offered 2016 safety, Brandon Burton (Gardena, CA).
– UPDATE (4:40 pm): I (Brandon) was able to catch up with newly offered 2016 safety Brandon Burton not too long ago, and he seemed excited about the OU offer. He told me that OU coaches Drew Hill (Dir. of Player Personnel), Dennis Simmons & Kerry Cooks were all on the phone when the offer was made. He also said all three seemed really genuine and cool.
He also expressed some interest in the Sooners by saying, “from what I’ve heard from my teammates is that it’s a great environment to be in.” He did seem interested in making a potential visit to Norman, but time will tell as Serra (Burton’s h.s.) has typically been a USC pipeline in years past.
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RE: D-LINE Coaching Search…..patience sucks 🙂
super lame
Thank you
Coaching seeeeaaaaarrrccchhhh….
For real. Right there with you.
Let’s all demand our money back since we aren’t getting any coaching search info.
Well, you did get some info. So NO REFUNDS!
http://feedyoursoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/pouting-kid.jpg
While it is obviously somewhat brief, what you see above is more than anyone else is offering. Be it free, $$$, or otherwise.
Not griping at all Jordan love this site. I’ve become an addict, but I’m still very curious who it could be just like everyone else. Patience has never been a quality I’ve been known to have.
Lane have patience, your patience will come. Just give it time.
I totally understand your impatience, believe me.
I blame you… jk
Yup, hope it is in fact by the end of the week. Would give him 2 weeks to get acclimated before Spring practice starts (and the same weekend of 2nd Junior day)
I could care less about a timetable. I hope Bob takes his time and gets the right guy. No need to feel rushed just to make a quick hire.
But-but-but…if you could care less, why wouldn’t you? 😀
“could care less”
“couldn’t care less”
One of my pet peeves
LOL!
Know what you mean.
Just having some fun with BD.
lol I know
I could care less but choose not to.
You’d be hard pressed to find another message board where you can talk sports and get a grammar lesson. We are really getting the full value of money spent.
With the addition of humor on an already value added website.
Here’s what I’ve been able to learn about the D-Line coaching search from my source in the football program.. Coach Stoops WILL hire someone to fill the position. Let me repeat, Coach Stoops will be hiring a new D-Line coach to replace Monty. I know that some of you have been wondering. ………..Patience.
“The strongest of all warriors are these two — Time and Patience.”
―
Leo Tolstoy,
War and Peace
War. And Peace? This Tolstoy was very flexible.
Also, wordy and wise. 🙂
And a very heavy read.
Verbose and loquacious? A man after my own heart. Though, like most Russian authors of the period, he had the habit of using the 4-5 different monikers of each character interchangeably, thus making a cast of 20+ characters seem like a 100 to the uninitiated. My first attempt at War and Peace was at age 14, having just finished Adam Smith’s The Wealth of Nations… let’s just say that after about 40 pages, I began my 2 year perusal of Dickens entire catalogue and didn’t feel like I was missing anything.
According to Elaine Benes, the original title was, “War, What Is It Good For.”
As Chief Dan George said: “Endeavor to persevere”
I think the President told HIM that. Then he and his tribe declared war!LOL
We must have the same source!
so you’re saying we will definitely have a dline coach? i will hold you to that and we will see how well your sources do 🙂
#stillwaitingforit
Okudah as an OLB? I mean goodness, maybe Mike hasn’t changed his mindset at all and still thinks he should recruit the same kind of athletes. Watch his film and look at his frame and speed. If he keeps growing, he could just become a monster safety that the top teams get. Very unlikely he gains 3-4″ and 40 pounds to be an OLB. Glad he’s working with QuickTwitch to work on speed and coverage ability, think he could be a special safety.
Maybe he forgot we were looking for 3-4 guys not 4-3 guys.
I think maybe he was thinking in terms of the “Striker Concept”? I mean correct me if I’m wrong but he was also a safety in high school right?
Not saying I agree I just think maybe that’s what made him consider that.
i may be way off, but it kinda sounds like they want one of the db’s in the 3-3-5 to be a hybrid type. one who can cover, but who can blitz and help with run support more like a backer. so a little smaller than prototypical lb’s since coverage will be their main priority. kinda/sorta a question to get someone with more knowledge to clarify. its not worded that way up there, as both mike and cooks are talking to him, so i guess we will wait and see
I am more impressed with Okudah than Texada in respect to the posted highlight video’s. Okudah has got some jets. Can’t wait to see how they both do during their senior season. Good luck to both of them!
Yeah, I’d rather go after blue chip LB’s like Kelly than take a DB who is only 6’1 and make him a LB for a coach that hasn’t coached the position a lot. Something about that logic seems flawed.
For sure rather take a guy who knows the position well.
Since the coaches acknowledge that they are sticking with the 3-4/3-3-5 defense, isn’t it weird that both coaches we can confirm interviewed have been 4-3 coaches?
does seem somewhat odd, yes
Just hoping we get somebody who’s not learning on the job. Obviously we know they can coach but are they familiar with the 3-4?
well, fwiw, I don’t think at this point they should have to bring someone in to tell/help them w/ how to run a 3-4.
You think mike has got it down then?
no
I know this is just a defensive line hire, but having some good knowledge and a fresh prospective would be a bonus.
I don’t disagree at all, but at this point I’m just not sure how open Mike actually is to input from others.
Probably why JM wasn’t sticking around.
Just a question of interest. Which would you rather have a Great coach whos a good recruiter or a Great recruiter whos a good coach?
Great coach and a good recruiter hands down.
Im not so sure I agree although im back and forth on it. My thinking is that if a coach can get bonafide 5* talent in and he’s still a good coach then you have the makings of a top notch player. That being said both sides have their good points.
I think for the college game recruiting is the most important aspect. You have limited time in years and actual practice time to develop correct technique, etc
Leave it to the NFL guys to perfect the little things. I’ll take the great recruiter and the athletes they can get to campus. Like they say, you can’t make chicken salad outta chicken sh!? !
However, John Blake is a great example of this not being true! Great recruiter and not much else.
I think as long as the coaching aspect is “good” you can get by with a “great” recruiter.
I would say it depends on who you have as your other position coaches and coordinator on that side of the ball. I personally, would love to have balance between great recruiting good coaching and vice versa.
The JP kid looks a little slow to me. The DE in the maroon and white was giving much effort in the clips I seen. What level of compatition does he play?
It doesn’t look like he has that mean streak some OTs have and he needs to get stronger.
But he does seem to be quick off the snap.
I had a conversation with a parent of some former Sooner football players hailing back from the 2000s-era. He told me that out of all of the coaches that recruited his kids, Bob Stoops was the only one whom he trusted to mold his kids into men. He said that even after his kids finished up at OU Stoops still looked after them. Sounds like Stoops hasn’t lost that quality – now if only we can get back to winning national championships too!
Well his integrity has never been in question. It’s stupid things like repunting the ball to the fastest kid in college and letting your brother play db’s 10 yards off receivers (which clearly wasn’t working) that have raised eyebrows lately.
There comes a time when you have to heal and let others heal.
I’m ready to move on just simply stating his integrity hasn’t been in question its some head scratching calls that got people upset.
I was screaming “No!!!” like everyone else. I always say that in order to win, you have to be willing to lose. The first thing you lose is fear. As bad as that decision was, I was glad to see the old Bob go with his gut and believe in his players. I believe that one call will reap dividends in the future.
Agreed. I wasn’t intending to excuse the questionable play calling/coaching choices of recent years. Just thought it fit along with the comments recruits and their parents have been saying about Stoops’ recruiting strategy.
When they tried to play bump and run, that didn’t work either, so maybe the players had something to do with it. Sometimes you have to hold the players accountable for their poor performance and not entirely blame the coaches.
We never went to bump and run.
Can Tyreek Hill go to the combine and win a Porsche?
Definitely admire that quality, among others, but above all, ‘The
Bob Stoops Home for Young Men Away from Home for the First Time and Wayward Receivers’ needs to get on with the business of winning some games and a championship. Just sayin’…
Agreed! Need to be winning games and championships too.
I would claim that this characteristic of Stoops is also what has gotten him into trouble. Not with regard to the players but with his assistants and friends that he has turned into assistants (I am looking at you Bruce Kittle). The problem is he was trying to help them out using other peoples money. He gave guys that weren’t ready for their position a position at OU. In the end he hurt both them and us. He put guys like Josh in a position to fail by promoting him too fast, and we paid the price for it. He seems to have reversed this trend (after the Mike hiring). So hopefully, we and he are headed in the right direction.
Don’t get me wrong I respect Bob for trying to help his guys, I just don’t think he was wise about how he tried to do it. May still be going down that route with Mike.
Bob, I agree with you on Josh. He was not ready. And Kittle should not have been given the position either. But OU made it to 4 National Championship games with Bob being Bob. USC took it to us but those other 2 were toss ups. What would be everyone’s perspective if OU had won 3 of 4 National Championships?
Notice mine was not a critique of Bob in general, it was one particular aspect of what he has done. I would also point out that both the Josh promotion and the Kittle hire occurred after the championships you mentioned and marked the start of our major decline.
Bob, as always, you’re gentleman. I like reading what you have to say. Your thoughts are always rational and read as if logic has been applied.
Thanks. I try to be fair in my assessment of people. If I criticize, I try to criticize the act and not the man. Bob Stoops appears to be a good man, you see that reflected in the men he hires and the players he recruits. But he makes mistakes and those mistakes are open to criticism. I just try to criticize those mistakes and not turn him into the devil.
good way to look at life, for sure. could also be that some, no matter how close to bob or close to someone close to bob they are or claim to be, try to take advantage of his personality traits and end up using him or what have you
Oh agreed. Helping people can be hard. Some will try to take advantage and some will self destruct no matter what you do. And when they do self destruct some will blame you. It is hard for Bob to help some of these kids because of the interest in keeping the image of OU clean. For instance, it would have been much easier for him to just kick someone like Mixon to the curb. But then if the kid does something else you are blamed for that and for the extra damage to our image. It takes a lot of courage for someone like Bob to help some of the kids he’s helped.
yeah. and, in the mixon situation, how much easier is it to send him packing? it takes a person who wants to help, who wants to do the tough thing, who wants to be a “2nd dad” to truly make a difference in these kids’ lives. its really a cool thing to see and for anyone who truly wants to open their eyes and see the good he’s doing, especially in a situation like this, they will see a man who is shaping men and not just worried about wins and losses(obviously he cares about that too or he wouldn’t have the high profiled job he has and have kept it for so long). so yeah, he makes mistakes and the way you look at it is what you should do, look at the instance and not the man’s character. good stuff. thank you sir
Boomer, you are spot on and you always bring an alternative point-of-view. Good stuff. Keep’em comin’.
thank you. i would want the same for my son when he gets to be that age. punish, teach him the lesson that he should learn from the situation, let him earn the trust back and move along. i’m biased, obviously, but i would want someone like bob to be a “2nd dad” to my son. and he should know going in that if he don’t go to class and whatnot, that his wiener will be run into the dirt, as it should be 🙂
Correct. Took a lot of courage to take Dusty back, but it turned out great. He gave Lynn McGruder a second chance after he messed up at Tenn, and he and another player saved a young woman’s life after a car fire.
Bob, major decline? 2012 Big 12 title (alas, not a high enough ranking to merit title game), 2013 unproven QB going in. 2014 is the only year that can be remotely referred to as a decline year. If we compare Switzer’s “decline” years (81,82, 83), I say, under BS, OU has not declined as of yet.
Fair enough. Some view it as a major decline some don’t. I was expressing more the impression. You are correct that from a objective standpoint it really has not been that big a decline.
I agree.
Well said.
Our current DL and recruits will be glad to hear that Stoops WILL hire a DL Coach
Funny the whole justwaitonit thing. It’s not like we have a choice to wait on it. Maybe it should be thewaitwillbeworthit.
you could have the #goonaboutyourlifeandwhenithappensithappens
or #takeachillpillwe’redoingourdamnbest
Or #whyareyouwaitingon17yroldstomakeadecisiondontyouhaveajob
ROTFLMAO
#yes,ihaveajobbut,it’sacrappyone.thanksforasking.
ROTFLMAO again
ROTFLMAO some more.
Lmfao
ROTFLMAO and my damn side hurts.
That one is overplayed, in my opinion…
My brother always said, “it’s amazing how patient people can be when they have no choice but to be patient.”
CarolinaBlue has confirmed that UNC defensive line coach Keith Gilmore has accepted the same position with Notre Dame. Gilmore coached two seasons at North Carolina. Does this impact us?
i would say that we are indeed not getting him, so yes 🙂
I didn’t know Notre Dame had a dline coach opening…hmmm.
It means Brady joke is still out there. I’ve read Mike Easton was probably going to move to coaching lb’s at ND.
Hiring a DL coach from Michigan worked the last time
The Brady joke thing was an autocorrect but I thought it was funny so I kept it.
You are correct re: Elston
At this point.. I’d be ok with anyone not named Joe Salave’a.. Gimme Spencer or Burton & I’ll be a happy camper…
Just watched Texadas film. His technique is not very good, but WOW this kid breaks on the ball really well, has a great knack for the ball and seems to like contact. Definitely one to keep an eye on.
No real surprise here, IMO. But I’m assuming some will care if for no other reason than he did have an OU offer.
https://twitter.com/GregBiggins/status/567747435217186817
After Sunday I had the impression the OC was starting to look elsewere any ways.
Well, I don’t think OU ever really stood much of a chance here regardless.
He was going where his brother went.
OM hired his brother who had been a GA at LSU.
hey Brainiacs, I know you can’t give names of the DL coaches being interviewed/looked at but can you tell us whether you guys are high on any of them? Whether there is a home run hire in the mix or not? If you can’t say anything at all I totally respect that, I am only wondering. Thanks for all the hard work you guys are putting in.
It would not be a surprise if Mike Stoops takes over the DL……..With Kish & Cooks, the defense will be headed in a different direction……………..
No!
I don’t hear or know much about Justice Hansen, he looks as if he was pretty good coming out of high school. Could he be a sleeper pick to start?
Excellent question. Haven’t heard a lot about players who redshirted, like Hansen, Todd, Evans, Bolton, and others. Did hear positive things about Orso and not so positive about Garnett. We will have to wait for spring practice to see how much he and others have developed in their RS years.
To start? I’d seriously doubt it w/ three guys ahead of him all w/ starting experience, but I suppose nothing is impossible.
If he did start it would def be a sleeper pick…I’m leaning towards Thomas…quit baseball and ran a similar offense in high school
https://twitter.com/dh_simba7/status/567751297584357376
Too bad the kid has so few options.
I’d caution anyone getting too caught up in this one. I mean when a kid comes out and specifically says he enjoys intentionally causing drama on Twitter, I tend to approach things cautiously.
I don’t have a thing against the kid personally, even though I’d question his decision to do that type of thing. But it’s his decision and his life not mine, so it’s definitely not my place to judge.
I guess it’s just one of those instances where I’m going to have to see a signature on a NLI (assuming it ever even gets to that point) before I’ll believe this one.
I agree. At the very least I see this going down to the NSD wire.
Rivals Mike is predicting Haskins to Maryland & Guarantano to Rutgers… Which would probably leave us with Buechele right? Would everyone be ok with that? I would..
Not necessarily. I mean if they truly do have a legit shot w/ Haskins (which is yet TBD, IMO) then, no, I wouldn’t be happy if they missed on him and had to “settle” for someone else.
I guess i don’t consider it settling if we’ve offered.. Which we have with those 3 & Patterson as well right..? So, if we were to get one of those 4.. It wouldn’t be settling to me..
patterson just committed to ole miss.
0/2 on 2016 QB’s now.
Most years we put out 3-5 offers and sign one. Given the change in direction we may give out more offers than usual. We still will probably only need one.
Seems like the 4 or 5 we offered are all longshots, and have already missed on 2 of them. Thats a bit concerning.
Granted its still early, but the amount of competition for recruits is skyrocketing.
Olde Miss hired his brother that was a GA at LSU.
I see your point. I guess my counter w/b Riley isn’t the one who made that offer.
Im so happy you said that.. Cuz that was my next question.. Do those early offers still stand? & do we know if these new hires have met or spoken with the early offers from coaches who are no longer here…?
Just based on past history, I’d expect OU to honor them but that’s obviously an assumption on my part. It’s early enough Stoops could probably find a way out of it if they really wanted to.
what’s the deal with guarantano? does he have a coach he loves there? future teammates he wants to play with? proximity? all of the above? anyone? bueller?
Well proximity for sure.
yeah. wonder if that’s all, tho? stupid state college of new jersey. i would love to have him. he seems pretty freaking good to me. i’d love to know what floats his boat. of course, buechelle ain’t no slouch neither
Ohio. State.
so you’re saying he’s not even going to rutgers. he’s gonna fill his wallet with buckeye bucks
Pretty positive he is a Rutgers legacy. Haven’t taken the time to look it up, though.
oh ok. thanks. i appreciate the info
I would be happy with buechele if we’re looking to keep our continuous FCA leaders for qb streak alive.
Friends with Buechele’s sister and she said he is leaning more towards Texas.
Just saw Orangebloods saying Haskins is setting up a visit to texass. Kid can write his ticket. Might as well check out all the programs he is able.
No question. No one should begrudge him to check out as few or as many schools as he’s able.
Stoops should hire someone with Mississippi and Florida ties . Its a guy I have in mine . David Turner at Miss State .
Just watched a video posted on LT. DL coach Frank Maile from Vanderbilt, very impressive. Experience with 3-4 and 4-3. Anyone heard if he is in the mix?
For DL coach, got my fingers crossed for Ron Burton.
His daughter goes to Msu. Sooner Scoop confirmed he is not a candidate.
That is in a thread on Scoop, but they didn’t confirm/report it.
Damnit, Jim.
“I’m a Doctor- not a miracle worker!”
Just watched the Shane Buechele highlights. I like this kid above the others. He even did a drop kick in his junior highlights. He’s got a strong arm, looks to throw first but looks like knight running it. His dad went to Stanford so I’m sure they are one of his top schools but I hope we get him.
247 has it between Stanford & OU.. Stanford hasn’t offered yet… I really like his film too..
His brother played baseball at OU
His dad played baseball at Stanford and was John Elways roommate there. Pretty cool. Like I said he’s my favorite so far.
If you want to see a Mean Joe Green DLineman . Check out Willie Baker 6’4 235 WDE oiut of Louisiana OU needs to offer this kid http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2617005/highlights/171090378/v2
Can’t wait to see who they hire as the DL coach . It’s got to be the right fit maybe OU should go back to a even front
Is the new D-Line coach from Notre Dame given that they have just hired a new D-Line coach from North Carolina?
No. The ND guy (Mike Elston) is now moving over to coach LBs
So it feels like we missing on all the candidates that have been floated as potential hires…..at what point do we pull the trigger? The coach only has a few weeks before we get into spring ball.
Who said he was a miss.
Not saying that he was or was not the correct answer but it seems that name after name is coming off the board. Ready to move on from the coaching searches and start figure out how the staff fits together.
I’m certainly not sad mike Pelton is no longer on the board. Brick Haley to Texas sucks but there’s still some homerun hires out there.
Typical of the process. A bunch of people put out names that the goblins in their heads told them about. Facts come out to disprove them. We then hire one of the three people we actually interview but no body mentioned. TFB has reported the recruits are being told someone will be hired soon. They also reported in this post, that as of last night, no actual offer has been made.
Way to go, this afternoon’s Bleacher Report: http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dg0t3?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=oklahoma-sooners-football
Report: OU Eyeing Ga. Tech Asst. for DL Coach
Date on the article says Feb 12 and the guy has already said he was staying put.
I know. I was tweaking BR for sending out a link to a horribly outdated news story.
that was from the 12th
It came in my e-mail this afternoon as part of their regular digest. I had to do a double take when I saw that.
no worries man…BR is always reporting old news…TFB is the place for up to date info and is 100% FREE
Maybe they should log onto TFB and they wouldn’t be a week behind.
Good lord they are horrible
I wonder how long it would take Murdock to delete a “Way to go TFB” post on his site? Bad taste my man.
No worries. I didn’t give a lot of context, and sarcasm doesn’t often come across very well in writing.
It may have taken bleacherreport a 5 days to post it, but the soonerscoop article appears to have been posted on 12 Feb, as per date at the top left. Just sayin.
I do not go to scoop or any other sites for my info… Am more than tickled pink reading from the best source of info for all the Sooner news, right here!
I don’t go to BR generally speaking. I signed up for their e-mail updates about the Sooners a long time ago, and thought it was funny when I saw the headline in my inbox in the early afternoon.
Not to mention all of their articles shead a bad light on the program. If it’s about OU, it’s probably going to be pretty negative either about poor recruiting, Bob Stoops leaving, or some player violation. They’re incredibly biased towards the SEC B1G and PAC 12, and they’ll do their best to beat down any other conference with their rhetoric.
quick update added re: Jean Delance
Good update. Thanks.
thank Brandon 🙂
update added – new 2016 safety offer
Hitting Cali pretty hard, nice.
We’re going to the Pac 10
Have we ever got anybody from Gardena, Cali?
Not if they’re holding a USC offer, which Burton is
Yep waste of an offer if you ask me
I know there’s a first for everything but kindof seems like a waste of time.
We should have offered their qb last year. He was a 3 star and I think an OU legacy. I would like the offer if I hadn’t been aware that it’s a usc pipeline
Was it Chris Wilson’s son?
Are you talking about Jalen Greene? he has this weird loopy throwing motion and was offered/committed to USC only so they could get Adoree Jackson and keep the pipeline well oiled.
No I think it was Caleb Wilson 2015 class
oh sorry then. serra is my high school’s rival so I try to pay attention to them as well. that one totally slipped past me.
You’ll never catch a fish if you don’t get your worm wet. 🙂
And you’ll never get your face slapped if you don’t ask. :-0
You mean, if you ask to get your worm wet?
Desperately seeking analogies, eh?
No different from any other day!
Nope. USC stronghold.
John Houston is from there, we gave him a shot.
Every once in a while they’ll be able to pull a kid out of LA if that kid is in harm’s way (ie, gang affiliation), but it’s not likely. It still doesn’t hurt to offer kids at those schools as there’s always transfers that didn’t grow up $C or UCLA fans.
Stanley Wilson/Jamelle H were from Wilmington next city south of Gardena.
https://twitter.com/joeyhelmer10/status/567794412199141377
I don’t have a problem with the pay site guys I know they’re just doing their job but this is just funny
I’ve got to go join…..you can’t get this kind of info just anywhere. 🙂
I hate that kind of s#$%. I mean at least have the decency to include a ($) on your link rather than putting that crap up, having someone click on it, only for them to find out they can’t even read it.
I mean that’s your strategy for drumming up new business? By pissing people off?
They should always put up the $ or free depending on whether its vip or not. But in this case it should be free no matter what since you guys just posted a free update that we all know they looked at.
I totally agree w/ your first point. I’ve been told on numerous occasions it isn’t intentional on their part w/ they fail to include them and I don’t buy that for a minute.
They word stuff the way they do obviously to try and sucker someone into clicking on it, only to find a paywall, and then tell themselves they have to pay for info b/c they have to know what they know. When, in reality, w/ social media and sites like this one, the info will inevitably get out and if you’re willing to wait even, at times, just a couple minutes you can have the exact same information (or something pretty damn close to it) for free.
But I would never begrudge anyone for being a member at a pay site. Some of those guys do very, very good work. Personally, I want as much OU info as I can get my hands on.
That’s true it does all get out eventually and at least the commenters here don’t (for the most part) take things directly from those sites but I believe it’s more rampant on LT. It seems like there’s no policing that site
Very little, in way more respects than just $ info. I feel like almost every thread over there devolves into some ridiculous name-calling pissing match. Makes it very hard to read anything, IMO.
lol nice I read that as, we read TFB earlier and heres what they had to say, He’s still committed
But all TFB ever does is steal their info from the pay sites 🙂
I do have pay site subs to Scout and 247(I like their composite rankings and national news)..You guys post as much or more than they do behind the pay wall and lots of times its first. I come here for my info
We appreciate you saying so
NP, this is the place for Sooner news and not just football/basketball. I keep up with other sports and you guys do too
I try to. I’ve always hated that rep OU has as just a football school. I’ve always tried to support all the programs as much as I can. The other athletes work just as hard as the football players and most get 1/10 the attention, if that. Support your school, not just the football program, people 🙂
Absolutely! Agree.
I will say, that’s one of the things I like about James Hale he supports & promotes all of the OU sports..
Very true.
I only take advantage of the pay sites when it’s free. I had 247 last summer and posters were pissed all the time because they had virtually no stories and no recruiting updates for days.
To be honest I like to read USCs and Alabamas sites, to see who they are recruiting…Bob P. is good but James Hale and co are homers you can’t beat what you get here
You can get a good deal of whatever Bob P has off Twitter, b/c that’s where he just got it from.
Yeah I probably wont renew my subs when they expire in May
I mean you do you. I’m just speaking from my experience and what I’ve seen. I don’t have a sub there and never would, but I can’t imagine it’s all that different than what he pulls on Twitter.
His info isn’t but he has some nice player stories that are
I could see that, but that’s also something you can find in the paper, for free, on a near daily basis, IMO.
Sadly the DOK doesnt deliver this far east but I see what you’re saying
Oh, I just meant online. I haven’t touched an actual newspaper in years 🙂
Info could be drying up over there w/ the coaching changes. They still have Mike, but that’s about it right now for the most part. Maybe Kish too the way they’ve continued to defend him.
I have a subscription to SoonerScoop. I like it over there, but honestly the only reason why I keep my subscription is there $99 to the FanShop promo they have been running. That pays for my sub. right there.
Aside from a personality standpoint (excluding Josh) and, IMO, a general sense of unwarranted arrogance, my issue w/ the Scoop board has never been their work. It’s the community.
IMO, there has always been a handful of posters who feel like they run the board and are constantly condescending and making others feel stupid for having asked a question or what not. I feel like the mods there have let the bullies silence and/or run off a lot of good people and even at times can come off as incredibly condescending and sarcastic in their own right.
But there is no denying they have info and sources and break news. I totally understand why people would want a sub there.
Indeed. True and insightful on the community aspect.
I got blacklisted (and threats of a lawsuit) by Rivals for trolling SS with a Greg Bryant decommitment and commitment to Auburn. A week later he decommitted and ended up at ND. I’d say I did them a favor and helped relieve them of the meltdown a bit earlier…like surprising a kid with pulling out their tooth or something. I never received credit for that news.
What the hell kind of lawsuit were they threatening?
Copyright infringement. Carey claimed Yahoo lawyers called him directly with the threat…within an hour. Like people at corporate were browsing soonerscoop. It was adorable.
That’s ridiculous (and hilarious)
It was. The fact is, even Carey (and the rest) got trolled and he was upset about it.
that’s why I don’t subscribe there anymore. Sooner55 comes to mind
It’s why I left. A handful of posters ran the boards and the mods did nothing about it.
Yeah, I’ve never really understood their seeming indifference to the whole thing. But whatever, it’s their board not mine.
Ok…which one of you guys is really Joey Helmer incognito?
Castorboy
He may also be mad that tfb is getting tweeted @ by Keshawn Johnson
https://twitter.com/thromedamnball/status/567796901384347648
I must’ve missed it… what his response in regards to??? Nevermind… got it now! thanks!
I believe it’s just about Burton getting an OU offer and Key apparently thinking that could be a good fit for the kid.
looks like it was in regards to being a safety offer instead of WR.. Key thinks safety is his best position…
Ahhh, good call.
Yeah. I see a lot of TFB reports popping up on OUInsider. The report that Pelton withdrew from the DL job showed up there about 10 minutes after it was reported here. They just don’t provide the coverage you find here.
My actual account and name is Adrian Francisco ( but it got hacked somehow so made this) but I have been on here since the site first started. Crazy to see it grow and become so popular! I found this site by accident trying to get to the sooner scoop site and It was the best mistake I made! I would like to renew my subscription!!
Just send me your credit card numbers and checking acct info 😉
https://dmsblogdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/jon-stewart-huh.gif
You were obviously too popular and someone simply had to have your login name!
Or maybe I was just bored?
was he an African Prince looking for help in transferring funds from one account to another…?
Who were you previously so we can keep an eye out for your stolen identity?
It was your smashing good looks in your avatar, they wanted to possess you.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tR6zN63Ib2U/UVCYpC-L61I/AAAAAAAAxl4/VxXMKnNkq5k/s1600/Judy+Tenuta+-+Worship+Me+Pigs.jpg
I know its way early, but I would like to see TFB do a projected depth chart for this upcoming season. I think it would be cool to see who they think will start/backup and why.
Can you wait about nine weeks?
Yea I can wait. Is nine weeks the end of spring football?
Should be. Right about then.
Yeah, I can wait…
self portrait time. nice
This was all done freehand.
I know another poster said this name earlier and I apologize for not giving him credit… but I don’t want to scroll all the way through to find it… for a D line name… from Vandy, Frank Maile… what does TFB think about this guy…??? check out the video… he’s pretty impressive for a young guy…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RwVG5hzXjIs
awesome. thank you. impressive indeed. sounds like a great guy. and he has background in both, as he said. obviously, he had to have just hung em up not too long ago, he’s like the rock’s little brother
Sounds good to me. Let’s sign him.
I love that video, thanks for sharing. He sounds great to me!
I mentioned this video earlier today, I really like this guy.
Then credit to you.. I just didn’t want to sift through all the posts looking for it.
The poster that put this up this morning on LT said he’s heard his name mentioned but didn’t share from who or where. I hope we are talking to him because I think he would be a great fit here.
looks like a solid guy. I like they way he was shown teaching the kids and not just going crazy yelling. I think kids respond to that type of coach in a positive way.
Coaching news?
BREAKING: Vince Lombardi is dead at 57.
Damn. So young. So much to offer.
Vince!
We barely knew ye.
He appeared to be in good health, too.
Yeah, but that gap-tooth thing always gave me cause for concern.
Jean Delance dropped 70 spots in the Rivals 250 today.
Probably cause he’s committed to OU
“…he has some developing to do in the strength and technique department.”
Funny how this didn’t come up when he jumped 100 spots in their last update.
its also funny how he posted recently that he’s up to 280 now… but still looks like he’s 245… I would venture to say strength is not an issue for him right now…
It’s Rivals. Don’t sweat it. If their “experts” knew what they were doing, college coaches would calling them instead of prospects.
True dat and it’s one of the very reasons this site started. A lot of good kids out there that aren’t receiving the recognition for myriad reasons just as there are some that are over-hyped.
yeah buddy. i can’t wait to see this years crop and the workup they do on em. very cool to see them do that for some of these kids that might otherwise be unknowns
Oh, by no means am I sweating it. I was just pointing out how silly a lot of these ratings and star systems are.
Thank you! “Silly” is an appropriate description.
Yep if they were that good at predicting future performance some team in the NFL would pay them millions for an exclusive contract. Imagine going into draft knowing which players were going to succeed and which weren’t.
He’ll jump to a 5 star if Bama gets in on him.
He dropped from #61 to #131 and Rivals didn’t even mention him in their “biggest slider” segment, they mentioned some kid that dropped 22 spots.
I’ll accept that as an admission on Rivals part that they aren’t oriented x3.
Apparently he doesn’t look as big as they originally thought. Theyre supposed to look at closer at some camps.
This is the article. He’s down at the bottom.
https://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1736976
They have updated it since about 8a.m. It didn’t show him or the others, but one, at that time.
update added
can’t get any work done with these updates.
Does anyone know Brandon Burtons twitter?
@BraandonD1
Well that’s something..
@GuerinEmig: According to this @AlbertBreer story, DGB planned to play for the #Sooners… until Jay Norvell was fired: http://bit.ly/1A3RX89
I call BS. Seems like he was still there for a month after DGB declared for the NFL.
Honestly could see this being true. He was REALLY close to Norvell
Right! That’s a huge pile of stinking BS. He declared before Norvell got canned.
Total BS.
Not surprising, would of been interesting to see him in Lincs offense, hope he does well in the NFL.
Ooh, Serra. That could be a toughie. A pipeline, yes. Next door to USC, even more so.
We ain’t skeered.
No doubt. I like seeing OU make the offers, though. You never know. If OU can get it together and win the B12 and finish top 6, maybe they will actually sign some of these kids instead of just making their top 3.
3-1-7 baby!
*scroll*
A recruit in central Indiana?
This is a bad thing!
Sucks to be Brennen Clay right now.
whys that?
Arrested, domestic violence.
Ugly business.
http://deadspin.com/cops-brennan-clay-threw-dragged-choked-his-wife-1686306717
Hate to hear this.
Yessir.
It does suck to be him. It sucks to have to learn the hard way that if you suspect your girl is trouble then she probably is.
Guys OU not Norvell gave DBG the chance to play at OU.If he liked Norvell so much why did”nt he sign with OU?Water under the bridge,hope DBG does well,but I won”t lose any sleep over this one.Go Sooners!!
Is DBG related to DGB? Just wanted to make sure I knew who I was going to get mad at before I allow myself to become angry.
I think they’re distant cousins.
I’m angry with the BeeGees.
My hips are still angry with me over that disco thing.
They ruined record collections and wardrobes.
/and ankles
I thought it was RGB – Roy G Biv
You guys talking about BBD?
BVD’s?
It was a good run.
I was one of the one’s that was opposed to his coming to OU for rehab.
It neither bothers me nor surprises me that he bailed after keeping his act under control without ever having played a down for OU.
Sounds like Justin Manning playing OU and Jackie Shipp, signing with A&M, and then whining when Shipp was fired. Maybe if he hadn’t played Shipp so badly, he would still have a job at OU.
…..LT poster comment on clay, “Maybe when they were being coached to “hit the hole hard”, they heard “hit the ho hard” instead. Damn you Cale Gundy and your Okie accent.’
Sure hope we don’t have the same officials at the Noble tonight that we had in Manhatten the other day.
Beat Texsa!
Is there a GOOD team of officials in the big 12 this year?
Simply….no.
Excellent question!
Texsa Bites!
LOL x 100000000.
One hundred million LOLs?
Don’t hurt yourself, ol’bud.
That’s why I used short hand. 🙂
ROTFLMAO!!!
My words to that song are unprintable!
Has OU offered Khris Pam? His Twitter makes it seem like he wants to be a Sooner…
Lol but this may make the coaches ease up a bit. Everyone likes a hard to get aspect especially since they’re going after elite guys this year with so few spots to fill. Although I can’t say I’ve seen this kid
Pretty sure TFB mentioned him before…or maybe it was just Brandon. I’ve heard of the name.
It’s not familiar to me.
* shrooms.
He’s not rated on 247
Yeah, he’s not highly rated. Pretty sure he’s only got 1 offer, from last I saw. But he’s definitely been mentioned here by someone.
Never heard of him.
Big kid that’s a physical tackler. He’s already trying to recruit another CB to OU as well.
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3035025/highlights/175447385/v2
This game is going to be tough to watch. Texsa is wearing their dirty diaper uniforms.
(cuss word) Texas.
– Be true to one’s Qi –
Cousins for 3!
Thomas!!!
Hield needs to have a big night.
Nice little clip of Spangler as a QB.
Maybe he will start in Riley’s new system.
What is he, 6’7″, 6’8″? that would be nice for looking down field.
Walker is hot.
He’s okay, but Spangler’s the cute one.
I used to like Hield……but that smile. 🙂
So tired of watching poor officiating
Stop watching college ball then. Between the refs and the non existent shot clock I find it unbearable
Is there a definition for travel any more?
I would say no. That game winner last night vs Kansas sure looked like motel 6 was leaving a light on
I think you have to head for the basket from outside the three point line with the ball tucked like a running back to get a call.
I don’t think they call double dribbles either. And carrying went away when traveling did.
There’s no carry unless you bring in your own basket from the bench.
Boomer!
Sooner!
how pumped are the idiots at espn to have kentucky undefeated? and the never ending parade of delta bravos that sit and throw out a game that they could possibly lose. if you miss, who cares and how much more awesomer is uk now that they took down the beast you thought they’d lose to? and if you nail it, awesome. we’ll never hear the end of your vegasness
Is Spangler playing through an injury? Granted, he always looks a little stiff, but something seems off.
Fell on his right wrist earlier in game.
Yeah I saw that and he just hit his ulnar nerve. It’s not that.
Maybe it’s just me, but it almost looks like his lower extremities or back is bothering him
Meh, probably just my imagination
Could be all the minutes he has played thru the season. Lattin is starting to play more, but he and Thomas have been forced to play
Could be tired legs.
Terrible call. Was clearly a charge!
I really thought texsa would be worn down by now playing that hard press defense.
The refs make this crap look so rigged.
Is it just me, or does the Big XII have the worst officials in CBB?
If they don’t I wouldn’t want to play in that conference.
It’s sad that it’s 2015 there’s this thing called instant replay with tons of camera angles yet it’s cool that we get so many calls that are bad.
Had the same technology in Oregon years ago. 🙁
These guys better not give this one to texsa after letting K-state sweep. Correction, K-state and the Big 12 officials.
No doubt. That game Saturday was one of the worst called games I have seen.
WBB: After being down by 12, we just took the lead.
Awesome. Televised? I haven’t looked.
yeah, FS1
THX.
Welcome
I’m guessing we’re in the pink.
Yeah…
Nice, Got the tie
Now I’m wishing I had two tv’s set up, men and women in tight games coming down the stretch.
Man Cave
Tried to post a pic from phone, no success…
Now you’re just bragging. 🙂
Sorry, my bad, it didn’t show up on my pc, til I refreshed… 😉
do you live in a buffalo wild wings?
Spangler!!
Beast Mode!!!
Not another Tie, foul!!!
Women tied up.
with the ball
Yes!
suck it tejas!!
Nice Win. Texsa still Sucks!!!
Ball game! F%#$ texsa!
Heck of a comeback. BOOMER
SOONER
OT for the wemonz.
Without KK, fouled out
And 1 of 2 in OT this year.
Boomer……Sooner ……. Texas……..
Have we lost to Texas in anything this year? Serious question
Sucking and Volleyball
Here I thought LHN was an epic fail. Volleyball saves the day.
that’s always sounded like that movie channel for broads
Sounded?
southern vernacular. you can take a boy from dixie, but you’ll never take dixie from a boy
It was in jest. It basically is a woman’s movie channel, showing only the softest most pleasing material.
haha. i know. i’ve been called on it quite a few times. it just sorta comes out. and yes, i checked. its lifetime movie channel or some such. its the muzak of tv. b rated, straight to video movies and nicolas sparks books not named the notebook
Your wife isn’t in the room is she?
haha. you woulda heard it
A tex-mex cookoff maybe?
WHOO-HOO!
Sherri not a happy woman right now.
For real
Dang sloppy play.
Yeah, Womens game is hard to watch at times… 🙂
I’ve seen the men play the same way at times. 🙂
Big eyes often get bad play… to wide open
gotta love when a layup takes 5 hops to get over the rim
I miss watching the three on three when I was in school.
Me too… Loved the half court play
Yeah, they ruined the game when they went full court. It was fast paced excitement.
No Seniors on the court, also. I think 3 freshmen and 2 sophs
Well, hell. One and one for the night. 🙁
2-1, Texsa counts as 2… lol
I’ll take it.
Good night folks. See you tomorrow… 🙂
Later dude.