Open Post | Monday, Apr. 13th (UPDATE 9:49 am)
Posted on: April 13, 2015
Image via @calebkkelly
– Caleb Kelly: As evidenced in the picture both above and the tweet below, the 2016 star Fresno LB enjoyed spending time with Bob Stoops and hanging out in the HC’s office. As many of you are well aware, the Sooners have established a bit of a Fresno pipeline in recent years. Whether it was Jalen Saunders, LJ Moore, Hatari Byrd or Michiah Quick. Between the ties to that talent rich area currently on staff in Chip Viney and the relationship OU’s staff has formed with DB guru and mentor Tony Perry, Fresno has been very good to the OU program.
We had a chance to briefly catch up with Kelly following his visit this past weekend and while the conversation was far from extensive, it was abundantly clear the five-star talent had a great time in Norman. And while I realize that’s not exactly earth-shattering information, I have heard from a couple other sources that the OU staff did everything possible to make yet another lasting impression with Kelly.
The Sooners came into the weekend a strong favorite to eventually land Kelly and nothing appears to have changed in that regard. In fact, from the sound of it OU only further cemented themselves as the favorites. – (Brandon)
2016 Fresno LB Caleb Kelly(@calebkkelly) on his unofficial w/#Sooners & @OU_CoachStoops this weekend. @TheFbBrainiacs pic.twitter.com/Dv1T3fbZcc
— Brandon Drumm (@Bdrumm_Rivals) April 12, 2015
– Rodarious Williams and Chanse Sylvie: We discussed the Calvary (Shreveport, LA) trio of Chanse Sylvie, Rodarious & Andreaz Williams quite a bit here on TFB. For some time it has been assumed the Williams’ brothers would be a package deal, if not all three potentially seeking to play at the same school together. So a third visit to Norman planned for this weekend certainly wouldn’t be a bad thing with regards to OU’s chances.
However in speaking with R.Williams recently, we learned his brother would not be joining he and Sylvie on the trip. Instead, Andreaz will be visiting LSU. Which I found to be rather interesting, so I did a little bit more digging.
While their mother would would like to see her twin boys play together in college, I get the sense the chances of that happening are lessening. In fact, one source even went so far as to tell me that it was ‘very unlikely.’ Rodarious himself told me he and his brother are not necessarily a package deal.
The Sooners are in a good position with both R.Williams and Sylvie, so it may even work out for the better if the brothers are okay not playing together considering OU is expecting to take a small class in the secondary and still have a number of CB offers out to a number of top prospects. Either way we should know more coming out of R.Williams & Sylvie’s visit this weekend. – (Brandon)
– UPDATE (9:49 am): 2016 OT & OU offer J.P. Urquidez has committed to Baylor.
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You down with OP? yeah you know me
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esco………if seibert comes thru with the golden leg of fgs, do you think he will also do punting……..didn’t see any punting stats from sat but looked like the guy was not having a good day
I tend to agree. Seems as though he has at least a good of chance to win the punter job as he does place kicker.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him do both, and right away. I know Hodgson has experience, but I think Bob’s attitude is gonna be to go with the best guy, unless Seibert falters in practice or shows some indication that he needs to gain some maturity to deal with the “big time.” Same goes for punting.
I would. It’s not common for a player to do both the punting and kicking, let alone a true freshman. I just don’t see Bob putting that kind of pressure on the kid, especially when you have a fifth year senior like Hodgson on the team.
But we’ll see. Obviously can say anything definitively one way or the other until Seibert actually gets on campus.
You may be right about that, but I would expect him to be place kicking, if he’s only doing one. You don’t see him punting and not kicking do you?
Potentially, yes. Admittedly, I’m just going off his quotes but I think Bob has become a fan of Hodgson as the kicker.
Well, this will be another interesting development to look forward to. One things for sure, ever since the dismal days of needing to have and open call for kickers half way through the season, Bob appears to be continuing to make sure the position is well covered.
I for one could see Siebert punting next year and Hodgson as the kicker and kicking off. Would imagine that if Hodgson struggles even a little that Siebert will be subbed in quick. Think back when Stevens struggled and Hunnicutt took over, Jimmy’s senior year. JMO.
Would you prefer Joe Mixon or Daniel Brooks returning kicks besides Alex Ross this year? Neal is obviously not the answer
Im of the mind…ball in Joe Mixons hands = good things
Strange things can happen on kickoffs (Murray) so I would say no. I like Brooks
thats true, but AD lined up to return kicks on occasion too…Gotta get your best players the ball as many times as possible…Scared of injury will get you beat
and injury to star players can really hurt more. No reason to risk it bc I think this offense will score a lot of points and Mixon will be one of many weapons at OU. Imagine what D Murray would look like without those injuries.
Yeah, OU wouldve likely beaten Florida in the ’08 NCG but injury happens. If he dominates at RB then yeah dont play him there(KR) but I have to see him dominate first
We kill Florida with D Murray. Besides this is Ross’s job and he is damn good at it.
Yes he is, but a second option if they kick away from him is a nice luxury
I would rather have Ross and a good blocker.
Exactly. I never understood using Murray against Mizzou in 08′ after his injury in 07.’ That cost a national title imho. When you have an offense that is not going to be stopped, a long kickoff return is less of an issue. Shake my head everytime I watch that 08′ game.
haha, Same here. That and the LSU game really make me mad as hell. Can’t even watch old highlights of those games without wanted to throw something at the TV.
The only time I remember him on KO was at Oregon for the final KO…had the impending fg try not been blocked it would have been a good call
The fear of using your star running back (or any player really) to return kicks or punts begs for a statistical answer. Does the data say that more injuries per touch (handoff or caught) occurs from the backfield or when fielding punts/kicks? Otherwise this just becomes irrational handwringing. There can be other reasons for not using a star player for special teams but fear of injury should not be one of them in my opinion.
I think nfl did a study a couple of years ago on that.
I still think Quick could be an answer there. He’s small but fast, just have to make sure he has the necessary ball security
I would love to see Ross and Brooks because both just need a crease and they’re gone but I have no idea about Brooks and ball security.
Whoever is the better blocker…Bouleware had them both in the middle at some point with the focus to make sure Ross gets the ball…Ross was pushing for the ncaa leader board so he needs to return the kicks
update added
J.P. Urquidez stays close to home and chooses Baylor. A bit disappointing but we have plenty of other recruits we are in good shape with.
Not trying to be a sa but who are we in on at tackle I cant really find anything on that position.
Changing topics, I noticed on my Twitter that OU commit Austin Kendall seems to have been attending quite a few camps and has been excelling in them. Sounds like he has a promising future for sure. I hope he continues to be our jewel in this class and starts to woo some new teammates.
He could be the starter in 2017 (R-FR)…I dont see him winning the job as a true freshman unless the guys coming back next season(’16) really implode
I can’t see him winning the starter spot either.
If he does, bad news for 2016 and 2015 🙁
I agree
I was thinking 2017 would be a legitimate target. He is Riley’s first recruited commit, and he would have had plenty of coaching up by then, having spent his redshirt year running scout team running Riley’s offense.
Yep, and I bet that early playing time is a big part of his decision
After Fall camp he would run other teams offenses all season and then get a little Riley work during december if he was surely redshirting. You’ll have two maybe three (very little reps for 3rd with 1st obviously getting the majority) guys getting all the gameplan reps
he’s already been wooing. one of the posts here had a tweet from him to a top prospect.
Too bad we missed out on Urquidez, but if Waco is what he’s into then, hey, best of luck to him.
Do we have a list of the recruits that ended up making it to the game?
No, and a little surprising that with so many important visitors in this weekend, not a single word on any of them.
The only two visitors we know at this point didn’t make it were Terry & Jefferson, and I know for a fact that has been posted here on TFB at least once, if not multiple places.
I understand everyone can’t see everything all the time, but please do not insinuate we’re not doing what we can to keep you informed.
Additionally, not to take anything away from the kids who were there, but the only truly “important” visitor this weekend, IMO, was Kelly. It just wasn’t the ‘high profile’ busy recruiting weekend some seem to be making it out to be.
No new offers have been reported, there were no commitments, so I’m not entirely sure what all this news is people seem to think we’re missing.
I saw that Terry couldn’t make it in. I guess I missed where you posted anything about Jefferson not coming. I suppose I was just hoping to read where Brandon or Alex had visited with some of our ’16 offers who were there at the game about their impressions of their latest visits. I got some of this information from other sites but please excuse me for wanting that same info on here. You yourself were expecting at least 2 commits out of this weekend. That obviously didn’t happen. Just thought there might at least been some discussion about where we stand with the guys you thought would commit, that’s all. Every site cannot provide everything that very fan wants. I understand that. And that is why I get my info from multiple sites, just as I know many others on here do as well.
Totally get that and I do the exact same. I’m just saying if there was any big news, we’d have put it out or you’d have heard it elsewhere by now.
For whatever reason/s, it was just a slower weekend in terms of recruiting news than some (myself included) expected it to be.
You ever hear that saying… ‘Don’t crap where you eat!”?
Why don’t you go ahead and make some calls, do some interviews and post that information bud!? Jordan, thanks dude!
Landing Caleb would so huge. Just wishing he wouldn’t be one of those guys who picks late in the process because getting him early enough would just attract so many other guys on OU.
Just like getting Austin to commit. Duvernay is a guy I think will follow him and maybe even Whaley.
Bob Stoops rocking the Jorts.
Making a comeback…..I’ve been waiting.
BWAHAHAHAHA!
I don’t think they are jorts. I think they are just light blue shorts
<— Wearing cut off jorts right now.
Regardless of what they are, he sure looks like an old white guy 🙂
Good Day, TFB! I hope everyone is finding today to be all that you’d hoped it would be.
Read an interview with Mead who said he weighed 192. Good for him and it would be cool to see him at 195-200 in the fall.
I’m with those who like Mead. The only thing that troubles me, was his response to a question about why he saw playing time early in the season and then none later. The response of essentially, ‘I dunno you’ll have to ask Norvell, I was the same the whole time,’ is not particularly a good one. It was clear all season that not just Norvell but Stoops and probably the whole staff wanted more from the young receivers, either in terms of effort, or preparation, or consistency, or attitude. I’m not taking it too seriously given the context, but, if maturity was an issue, that’s not a good response.
Is the interview available online? Just curious.
It’s just the one quote in the middle of this article:
http://newsok.com/oklahoma-football-what-theyre-saying-about-the-sooners-spring-game/article/5409540/?page=2
Got it thanks!
I’m okay with the candid response but I’d like to see him change some things:
ex: “I’m not the person to answer that question.”
ex: “I felt I was consistent the entire season.”
or call out the media on with this ex: “That’s irrelevant. There’s nothing to be gained by answering that question. I’m ready for this new opportunity.”
Your first example is probably the best. Number 3’s ok, too. Number two is no good, because it still sounds like petulant arguing with the coaches’ decision. It’s kind of a no-win question, and the tone of the answer, which doesn’t come across in print, can make a big difference. I think the point is that he should at least have an idea at this point what some of the issues were. If he doesn’t want to discuss them, then he shouldn’t. If he’s suggesting that he played great and it was a personality conflict with the coach, then that’s something different. But we did see him in the games early, and he didn’t look ready, imho. And that was reflected in Bob’s comments during the season, not just Norvell’s.
I think you are reading a lot into what Mead said. Can anyone make sense of what Norvell did last year? Why did Mead even play? If he was good enough to play early, why not late? Those are Norvell questions, not Mead. He’s 19 and gonna be good.
He played favorites. That’s what he did. He’d done it for years, as had a number of now former Stoops assistants.
this guy Jordan gets it right. There is a reason why people from other universities wanted this guy gone. Great guy but he has been living off Marvin Harrison deal for years
That is a pretty unfair, generic comment to make. I certainly don’t recall thinking too many times over the years that we were playing less talented guys, or that better players were playing less than less talented players.
It’s not generic at all. It’s based on actual information. You can choose not to believe it, but I’m not just throwing it out there b/c he’s gone.
BJW was the same way, some would even argue worse.
Of course…:0 What’s a guy to do during the doldrums…I did say “I’m not taking it too seriously…” I was just getting a vibe off his answer and running with it, but not too far…:-)
The most obvious answer to why someone plays early and not later is that they weren’t doing the right things when given their chance and not showing signs of improvement in desired areas. Take a seat.
I’m with you. I think most of it is the 19 thing. I suspect that getting having a year of experience under his belt will cure most of the issues, and he’ll have a great season.
You make some great points. I see what you’re trying to project.
The media, a bunch of adults, shouldn’t ask self-serving questions to someone who doesn’t have enough experience dealing with the media. The kid is almost assured of saying the wrong thing. Then, when Bob refuses to make players available, the media will whine.
It is becoming obvious now that our OC’s are gone that many players were feeling slighted by the play calling, and the choice of who plays. Mead, needed reps and for some reason Norvell chose to play him, use his Redshirt and then bench him. If I were Mead I would be upset as well.
I personally loved his answer. It was honest and raw.
Perfectly good answer for a kid who got hosed and was asked about it. So tired of the don’t ruffle the feathers responses. Even Coach Patterson had a change of heart and recently blasted the committee for excluding the Frogs as he should have 3 months ago. Coaches, administrators, and committee need to be held accountable to the players.
I took it as a shot to this guy. https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/r-CBlc86L-v_jkgjnoQKe7HZSNw=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2950968/jay_norvell_texas.0.jpg
And I loved it… **** texsa
Absolutely NO ONE looks good in that baby poop dirty orange color. No one. EVER.
Great crowd Saturday. About the same as last years game. Good to see that not all Sooner fans have become disillusioned about this team and staff.
Shots fired!
Not necessarily firing shot, but just an observation that there was a much larger crowd than anyone expected on a rainy day in Norman. To get the same crowd Saturday as we did last season coming off our victory over Alabama is amazing and a testament to the excitement over the new offense and new staff members, IMO. Well…perhaps a tiny shot at a certain Brainiac that predicted a much, much smaller crowd because he just can’t seem to understand what fans could possibly have to be optimistic about.
lol, loved this post.
If the QB’s throw the ball over the place, all we’ll hear is the DB’s suck. The DB’s get 4 ints, now the QB’s suck.
Cant have it both ways people, maybe the DB’s have improved playing more against an Air Raid Offense constantly in practice.
Maybe Mike Stoops in the booth is helping him see the field better, lets just be happy the defense is at least looking more aggressive despite the numerous starters out.
Maybe there will always be something for someone to complain about… I think the phrase: “just win baby” is the best medicine.
Plenty of fans seem to be professional complainers. If anyone doubts that, just visit the LT site. It’s not pretty.
And besides, we Sooner’s weren’t “land thieves” anyway. Just early risers!
winning ugly in big games is fine by me. Just think of “wide right” and “wide left” in those old FSU vs. Miami matchups? Think Miami cared that’s how they won??? NOPE!
I hear you loud and clear. The only negative thing I got from the scrimmage was that 3 of the picks were thrown into double coverage and appeared to be poor decisions on the part of the QB. Otherwise, they looked fairly good. I thought Thomas was improved in the accuracy of this throws and Hansen completed all 5 of his throws. Mayfield looked really good, except for the picks. Hopefully, Trevor improves his decision making and touch on the ball between now and the first game; he certainly has the physical tools to be a consistently good QB.
The Dbacks did look better than last year. The safeties were moving to the ball more quickly, which was a good sign. Having double coverage on a deep ball is a real improvement.
That’s actually why I wasn’t to terribly disappointed in the INT’s. They were poor decisions coming in a spring game that can be fixed in film sessions. I’d be more concerned if they were just bad inaccurate throws (overthrowing the WR, throwing behind the WR, ect.).
I feel the opposite way. I think poor throws are easier to correct than bad decision making or not reading the coverage right.
I agree with you. It’s easier to correct flaws in the QB’s motion. I think that’s evidenced by Thomas’ throws in the game. His throwing motion looked much better. OTOH, if the QB has poor vision, it’s much harder to correct, and we saw that from TK (really hope I’m wrong about him and he corrects it).
Bored. Rewatching the game. Knight missed back to back easy throws. The slant to Mead too high, and then throwing off his back foot misses Shepard by 10 yards when Shep was wide open on a deep ball. I’m sorry, Knight is not the guy.
Thanks coach.
if the offense does well then defense sucks. If the defense does well then offense suck. you really can’t tell from these plain vanilla scrimmages. Brent Rawls outperformed Jason White and then White went on to become the Heisman winner and Rawls fell out of a truck. Trey Metoyer was a spring star and nothing happened after that.
Sad OU is losing out to Baylor now!
Kid wants to stay close to home, whats sad about that? Not like Baylor does not put Olinemen in the league
Been happening for a while now. Mind you, not on an overwhelming basis. But Baylor, Tech, TCU, are MUCH more of a competitor on the recruiting trail now than they were, say, like 10 years ago.
Esco, this is not at you, just a general response to Jeff’s statement. I’m using your post as additional information to support what I’m about to say.
Here goes:
I really don’t get it when people think that OU should never lose in recruiting to Baylor, TCU, TT. I mean, have they been watching these teams the past few years. These are good ball teams and we should be glad they’re good.
It’s that attitude that OU shows up and it’s all done. Wow!! Overlook your opponent in recruiting and on the field.
I am glad Baylor and TCU are good. I want OU to be one point better than them come fall.
I know…Welcome to the Bizarro world
And we have always lost some players to those schools, just not as many as we do now. It is hard to predict what most sixteen and seventeen year old males are going to do or why they do it. Some go to other schools because mama or daddy went there. Some because the school has an academic program they like. Some go because of a girl. Some go because it is close to home. Some go because its not close to home.
Back in the Switzer era and before most games were not on television. You pretty much had to go to one of the big name schools so that you could be seen and picked up by the pros. Now that is not the case. Almost every game is on TV and players can go on the Internet and find out where they are likely to get early playing time.
We are going to lose out on a lot of them because we offer several times the number we end up signing. In the end, what you have to look at is are we getting enough of the players we want. OL recruiting is not where we are weak right now. Losing out on one OT to Baylor ain’t that big a deal.
Reminds me of the part in the story ” Junction Boys” when one of Coach Bryant’s boys wasn’t playing well because he was homesick. Come to find out he missed his horse.
Why is it sad? If it were as easy as you make it out to be, just send them the LOI on signing day. That is, since OU doesn’t have to do anything but show up.
Remember this: A weak villain will give you a weak hero. If you want OU to be a bad-ass hero, you need a bad-ass villain.
http://i.imgur.com/VtMptnb.jpg
I’ve asked this before and I didn’t receive a response so I’ll ask again. Can you please include the size and weight of players you do write ups on? Since you don’t have a player database you are encouraging readers to go to other sites to find out this information. Just a suggestion that will he helpful to the readers. Thanks!
To be fair, they occasionally do or the information is in their Hudl profile which they embed a lot of the time.
If you’re just going to these “other sites” to find a players measurables, then immediately coming back here like you know you should then I’m cool w/ that.
Haha, “Mustvid” couldn’t have been nicer. Plus his suggestion was a great one. Rather than getting defensive and saying you’re not going to take his idea into consideration, next time go with “great idea, thanks!”.
On the fritz…
I guess I’ll have to if you don’t want to take the time to include it. And it isn’t always included on the HUDL video. It’s a just a convenience but I can go elsewhere to find out.
Your tongue-in-cheek meter is on the fritz.
If you don’t do it, I’ll do it for ya. *thumbs up* Mama hug.
Is there a list of the recruits that were in attendance?
The list we had up all week, minus Terry & Jefferson.
I saw the list I was just curious really showed up. Any idea what Whaley thought?
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/57125857.jpg
I can’t stress this enough: I love the way Lincoln Riley carries himself. He seems very intelligent and poised. He also looks like he isn’t afraid of a treadmill.
we said the same about Josh Heupel his first years LOL
Who’s we? I never wanted it. Felt like he got the job because of his loyalty to Stoops, National Title nostalgia, and relationship to the Borens. Also, he didn’t develop any QB on campus.
That’s a little harsh, IMO. He did coach Sam and Landry. He didn’t recruit Sam, Long did, but he did coach him. Landry showed improvement during his stay at OU.
That being said, I think, considering the QBs other than Sam and Landry, player recruitment and development were Josh’s weaknesses.
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Josh changed the calls at the LOS frequently when he was QB. IMO, his play calling only seemed suspect when the QB was having a bad day and he was overly conservative to protect them. Otherwise, it looked pretty good to me.
Landry improved until JH went upstairs –
Not sure you can credit him with Paul Thompson when you consider all we did was run with AD and PA Pass off of it. I’m not exactly sure how much of Sam Bradford’s success was Heupel, and how much was just Bradford’s own aspirations. We all saw Landry’s freshman year, and he progressed quite nicely into his sophomore year– you’re going to get a natural progression from your frosh year to sophomore, but some coaching helps. By the time LJ was about to REALLY turn the corner, Heupel ascended to OC and spent most of his time at Krispy Kreme or the Box. LJ plateaued after his sophomore year, and you know the rest.
I beg to differ. He did a great job with Sam. And he was the QB coach for Paul Thompson the year Bomar got kicked off the team. We won a conference championship.
But he did poorly coach QB’s after his ascension to OC. Landry plateaud and Blake and TK never developed much, if any.
PLAW0720- hits the nail on the head. This is my thought as well. JH moving up to the OC position was the worst decission Bob made. JH was not ready to split duties. Way better QB coach than OC.
“Way better QB coach than OC.”
Apparently looks that way, but I still hope he kills it at Utah State!
Really I was making a joke to the part where you said he looks fit, should have been more clear.
Thats what I was thinking…the treadmill part! Everyone else took it much deeper. lol
Yeah I honestly didn’t think that would cause a stir and I realized how unclear I was lol
Don’t want to make anyone mad but there is an interview with Caleb Lelly on scout.com about his recent trip to OU.
What’s there to be mad about? I can’t seem to locate it.
Try scout recruiting hq
Screen shot
http://oklahoma.scout.com/story/1537065-kelly-breaks-down-visit-to-norman?s=146
Thanks. I just didn’t want to make the people mad who run this site by posting a story from another site.
I figured that’s why. I will apologize in advance. haha
Why would anyone be mad? There are other sites besides this one that cover recruiting.
Having not read said interview w/ Kelly, I find it pretty hard to believe there is anything of much importance included. But, again, I haven’t read it.
What are you going to read today, presumably months away from him actually making a commitment that is going to resonate w/ you?
That he had a good visit?
We have that above.
That OU is one of, if not the, top school for him?
We have that above.
That he’s tight w/ Viney and the other OU players on the roster who also hail from Fresno?
We have that above.
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Okay, as I was typing this someone posted the article and I just read thru it. Think I kinda nailed it above.
Sorry, not trying to be a dick. Maybe I’m just too cynical. Well, no, not maybe. Definitely.
The condems still scare me…
Well I was just trying to be respectful, but since you mentioned it first, you are a DICK.
That’s a pretty good way to no longer be welcome here, friend.
Again I was trying to be respectful. Like you said I must have taken your comment more harshly than it was intended. However, if you want to kick me out for kindof agreeing with you then I guess go ahead however I still love this site and what you guys do.
As was I, said as much. And couldn’t have been more clear, IMO, even going so far as to call myself the dick. I understand how what I wrote could have come across in that manner which is why I attempted to explain how that wasn’t intended to be the case both in that post and countless others since.
My apologies, man. I’m not looking to piss anyone off here. Which is a huge reason why I didn’t just immediately ban you, as I feel pretty confident in saying mods of other boards probably would have if you called one of them a dick.
I can be a dick sometimes. Fully aware of that. But that’s also why I’ve tried to go out of my way explaining how that wasn’t my intention here.
My apologies as well Jordan and thanks for not banning me.
No need to thank me or apologize. Banning you w/h/b stupid on my part and you didn’t offend anyone, I did.
Good talk, Russ 😉
You should go back to the “come at me bro” avatar. 🙂
haha, I might have to after today 😉
Y’all are better than this. Come on guys.
Was his really necessary? Not sure what Lane did to deserve this.
Simply illustrating a point. And made it abundantly clear I wasn’t trying to be overly harsh. It’s easy to misconstrue things in this medium with no context, which IMO is what happened here.
But there have been multiple insinuations we’ve been slacking on the job when, in reality, there is very little to report. And, yeah, I take that personally.
if you would have stopped at the first paragraph then your commentary would have made more sense. since you decided to ramble on about how ridiculous the content of other site must be you completely justified his initial statement and made your first statement irrelevant. just sayin…..
Maybe I went a little overboard in trying to illustrate my point, but I stand by my intent.
There is nothing new to report. There wasn’t in the Scout story. There wasn’t in the Rivals story I just read that virtually mirrored the other. And there really wasn’t anything new in what we shared (before those other two sites, mind you).
We’re fans just like all of you. We want there to be great news here to report every single day just as much as you do. But, unfortunately, that’s just not realistic.
It’s ABUNDANTLY clear at the end of what I said that I was trying to make light of the whole thing. If K had done the same thing I’m 1000% convinced it wouldn’t have even registered w/ anyone b/c he’s the “nice guy.”. But b/c I have a rep here amongst some people for being a dick, people get all upset if something I say is, IMO, misinterpreted.
Nothing I said is factually inaccurate. Maybe the message came across in a manner in which it wasn’t intended, but that’s the risk we all take when we’re not communicating face-to-face and context is much more easily interpreted.
So if I’m sitting here now explaining myself to multiple people that while what I wrote may have been interpreted as ‘dick-ish’ but wasn’t intended that way and you/they simply refuse to believe my explanation….well, there’s not really much I can do about that.
I don’t think K would have felt the need to go on a defensive rant based on the OPs comment so there’s no need to speculate on something that, in all likelihood, would never happen, IMO.
Call it whatever you’d like. I’ve explained my intent, some of you apparently choose to not to believe me. That’s fine. Do whatever you all need to do.
Here’s the deal. If you would just let the great reporting this site does do the talking you would be fine. You are in danger of diminishing that by unnecessarily bashing EVERY other site that reports anything. Was there any point to that rant? No. If you would have left it at, “Why would anyone be mad? There are other sites besides this one that cover recruiting.” then you would have garnered a ton more respect for the confidence you have in your own site.
and there is a pretty good reason people don’t jump on K like this……
How am I bashing other sites here? By saying we posted what we had from Kelly before the other two sites I mentioned? So stating facts is now unnecessarily bashing someone?
Again, simply stating a fact in that there are a number of other sites that cover recruiting. And there are going to be any number of instances in which they’ll have something before we do, and vice versa.
I’d like to believe I’m never one to not one something, but your criticism here in this instance seems wildly offbase, IMO.
I think you’re completely missing the point. You can pound your chest if someone were to question this site’s abilities as compared to others….and here comes the but…….but the OP did not do that and, thus, your rant was completely unnecessary and was “wildly offbase, IMO”
OK, you are the winner
My only challenge to you is go back and read the first paragraph of your original post, then stop. Then imagine you are a TFB reader. Read it one more time then stop. You may be surprised at how much more confident and welcoming it sounds.
I know this place is free, but remember what they say about the customer.
I’ll do that. Then I’ll go read the now multiple posts I’ve written in response and realize the context/intent, in spite of how it clearly came off to some, of the original message.
Again, I’m not saying any of you who took offense don’t have a point. But it’s as though that’s where the conversation conveniently ends.
if you’d stopped at the first paragraph you wouldn’t have to read the multiple response posts because no one would have had an issue. That’s the point!
That’s fair.
i never complain about free information. some people just like to complain.
Has anyone seen the spring game on youtube yet? I watched it live, but want to go back and take a look.
It replayed last night on FSOK but I haven’t noticed it anywhere else.
Not I.
and I’ve definitely been lookin’
I was went to the game and was kind of focused on the QB play most of the day. I know it was just a scrimmage, but there was a lot of frustration in the people around me watching them throw, almost exclusively in some series, in the redzone. I don’t expect that to be reoccurring when the offense is at full strength but thought it was notable.
Out of the QB’s I think Thomas “looked” the best, and I use that loosely and surprisingly. I kind of wish we would have seen more Justice Hansen, I think he only got 5 or so attempts.
The whole idea of running Ross straight up the middle makes no sense to me still, but I’m also just a fan.
I think it was Tito Windham or Will Johnson that covered Mark Andrews pretty well on some plays seeing that there is a huge size disadvantag.
Last year I said Mead had the highest ceiling of the three big (Andrews, Todd, Mead) but had the longest road to get to that point and be effective on the field, he proved me wrong.
Couldn’t tell what the Todd injury was but he jogged off the field. It looked like a shoulder or simply got the wind knocked out of him.
There was a couple good punts and there was a nasty one in there somewhere. I think Seibert finds his way on the field faster as a punter than a FG kicker.
Everyone has a chance at safety.
Mead, again.
Lastly, Daniel Brooks is one tough player and in some situations I personally would put him in over Ross. Just my opinion, though.
Great post.
IMO, Meade has improved more this spring than he did all of last season. Maybe that’s different/better coaching or maybe that’s just his particular learning curve.
Seeing Andrews, it’s hard to believe that he redshirted, but again, every player has his own learning curve and rate of physical development in the weight room. Sometimes it’s just cumulative.
As I posted below, it seemed to me that Thomas has improved his mechanics.
Just speculation, but my opinion is that they thought Bell deserved the right to be on the field over a freshman and if this is true in any means I would agree with them. That and Bell already knew the system and plays.
As far as the mechanics, I can kind of give an semi-educated guess on that. I played QB all through my jr. high and high school years, one year I tried out baseball and had to learn new mechanics for throwing and that really toyed with my throwing motion come fall. It may not be the same for him but that was my personal experience.
That (both comments) makes perfect sense.
Anybody know of any Sooners in Michigan? I’m headed up there to work tomorrow and I’ll probably be there through the fall. Would love to find a good place to hang on Saturdays.
P.S. NOT Detroit.
I hear there is a big Sooner club in Southwest Detroit….just wear a red bandana and make funny hand gestures and you will find it. 🙂
HAHAHA I have no intentions of going anywhere near Detroit. I’ll be about an hour NW of Lansing.
So, with JP off the board now, does TFB expect another OL offer going out soon.. & who would you suspect gets that offer…?
Farniok and Frederick come to mind
That’s who i was thinking of..
Potentially Luther Harris in the fall
Not with how Derek has been at OU
It’s a little disappointing that we didn’t get any commits this weekend but we always do pretty well by the end.
With you but we have our QB. I feel this will help us while the others are figuring things out. Its a marathon, not a sprint so I feel good. Also, there are always guys who pop out of the woodwork that we haven’t heard of that work out. Like the early offers but always like to hear about the Dalton Wood’s too.
Does anyone else feel that Stoops and Riley are a little disappointed that Mayfield did not separate himself from the pack and lock-up the QB position Saturday? The QB race now seems to carry into the fall. The good news from that is that it lessens the likelihood that one of the QB’s transfers out.
What information has been provided that would lead someone to think that?
Here’s my thought process. We’ve been hearing on here and elsewhere, and I have been told by my neighbor who is at every practice, that Mayfield was WAY, WAY ahead of the other 3 guys. I’ve heard Bob say a few years ago when Knight, Bell and Thompson were battling it out, how he would prefer to have someone emerge in the spring because it’s really tough to be sharing snaps in the fall between 3 guys, let alone 4.
I don’t think that’s the case. That would lead me to believe that Bob was rooting for Baker and I’m pretty sure he’s not that kind of guy.
Knowing that none of the QBs separated themselves from the pack is somewhat disappointing but the upside to this is that they all know theyre still in the hunt. That fact should only make them all compete that much harder and thats a win win.
I know a lot of fans that are disappointed ….they’ve had him as the savior every since last SG
If Mayfield is our savior we are even worse off than I imagined. 🙂
Just a quick question, is OU a little slower on getting commitments this year? Or is it just my imagination? Any source to check how many commitments they has by April 15th of last year? Not too worried, more curious.
We had just 2 that stuck to signing day. Evans and Overton.
Spring game re-airing tonight at 9pm EST on FCSC.
and what DTV channel is that?
Not sure. But this is one of the Fox channels
Maybe Fox Sports Central
Watched the second half last night and saw a few things I hadn’t during live play.
One thing really stood out was Romar completely pwning Alvarez with quickness and strength on a play. Alvarez came back in following plays and fought hard, but Romar is a man.
I will be looking for that tonight. How goes it EasTex?
Hey bud.
Other than allergies I’m doing very good.
Et vous?
Okay, I’m going to take a stab at “Et vous.”
Et al is “and others” so, et vous must mean “and you?”
If so, I’m fine. Thanks for asking.
I understand the allergies: my son is fighting the good fight.
It’s tough at this time of the year. I hope it’s almost over for you.
Yep, “and you.” The context helped.
I think the worst is almost over, the Live Oaks have really been cranking out the pollen lately.
As for the Spring game, I saw many positive things with the young OL really showing up.
The offensive line looked good. They really stayed on blocks until the whistle. I think we will be pleasantly surprised by this team.
With so many starters sitting this one out and a very talented incoming freshman class yet to reach campus, I think this will be a very good football team.
Question…I keep seeing people think DeBerry is gonna be a big contributor this year…does this mean Striker, Bond, and Obo either get hurt or not as good as him or will he be moved inside…always thought they wanted him at the “striker” position…He has the weight already..maybe they move him inside but I still don’t see him overtaking the depth that is building inside either…I will be pleasantly surprised if he doesn’t contribute because I think we are a lot better than last year with who’s already here +Shannon
I think he is a RS unless he is needed due to injury.
Young man isn’t even on campus yet. He has some catching up to do mentally/physically unless he is an absolute phenom.
Kinda what I was eluding to…he’s either a well beyond the others or they’ll redshirt him…there’s usually a learning curve and then why waste a year if he’s ready later in the season unless it’s necessary
All we know is he was highly recruited and looks good on video. We don’t know if he is ready for D1 compo or is ready for the adjustment to college life in general.
For one thing highly touted kids don’t care about maximizing their eligibility. He probably envisions himself in the draft 4 years from now so I think you play him as a freshman even if it’s just to get his feet wet.
Yeah maybe he gets some garbage snaps like Striker did his fresh year
The guy had offers from everybody in the country. If Dom and Jordan played as freshmen, then he should be a big contributor. Much more talented than those 2 guys.
yeah but he was recruited for the “Striker” position (said so himself)…my guess is he will start out in the two deep only when we play the 34 with 2 OLBs..no way he overtakes Striker or Bond…maybe he moves inside and makes waves but that’s not his natural position so it might take a year to adjust plus the inside guys have to play coverages..he’s a rusher hybrid deolb type imo…Dom and Jordan played because of injury and depth issues…even Gerald McCoy redshirted so top talent doesn’t just walk in and take a spot…He’ll start out 4th on the depth chart at the “striker” and in the two deep when we go 34 is my guess
Fresh legs and getting little opportunities here and there to adjust to the speed of the game. Just a guess.
Yeah could get some garbage time like Striker did his fresh year and maybe more against running teams when we go more 34…just don’t see him passing Striker and Bond for meaningful snaps..possibly OBO too
Yep. If he passes Striker and Bond he’s a phenom for sure.
The dreaded off season just got a lot better, Lou “Big Tongue” Holtz is gone from espn.
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/report-lou-holtz-out-at-espn-041315
Hopefully Mark May will be gone, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWa9iYYPYF4&feature=player_embedded
The Dumb Duck post of the day
BOOMER SOONER, I hate everything Oregon I dont even eat Duck anymore but I’ll damn sure shoot one.
That quacked me up.