Image via OU Football Facebook
Had a couple more carry over notes in addition to those on the QBs, so we wanted to share them with you as well.
– Earlier this week we mentioned that Marquise Overton was beginning to flash that great first step we all saw back in his high school days at Jenks. I spoke to someone yesterday who brought Overton up, and said that he really is beginning to have a great camp. He puts a lot of pressure on the quarterback and has even started to receive some second team reps at NG.
– As expected, Samaje Perine did not practice yesterday. However, I was told that Joe Mixon also did not practice in the second of OU’s two sessions yesterday. He did, however, take part in the morning session.
– Was told Jordan Thomas had a nice INT yesterday. Also, Brandon let me know (and I was later able to confirm) that Kahlil Haughton had two pass break-ups as well.
– We’ve mentioned him on TFB numerous times now, but it really sounds like Haughton is going to be a player for the Sooners. And he’s someone who will likely see the field in some capacity this year. Which isn’t to say Haughton is going to unseat Ahmad Thomas necessarily, but in order to assist in his development he will almost assuredly get some live-action reps in 2015.
– Was told that, in general, the defense won the day on Tuesday. I was told they were practicing with Mike Stoops in the booth to get used to getting the calls in early.
– Continuing to hear about the TEs being targeted much more frequently in this Lincoln Riley offense than they have been used in the past.
149 Comments
First…
I am still not use to nor comfortable with true freshman playing in certain spots S is one of those but I love Haughtons game and if he can help then I am all for it.
I think Thomas starts but Kahlil will get some PT to groom him for the future
That’s what I thought Parker would do last year but I guess we were a lot thinner than I thought.
I understand your hesitance but what you have to consider is when the last time you heard his competitor “had two pass breakups”.
As “AI” would say.. “We are talking about practice man, practice”..
Man, I needed these notes today!
Can we get the receiver breakdown?
For any of you that know, when you say the TEs being targeted much more frequently, do you mean the TE being flexed out in the WR position or the TE actually being lined up as a TE? The reason I ask is because I almost don’t associate a TE being flexed out as being a TE. I understand they can “flex” out, but if they are just going to line up in the slot, then they are basically a WR to me. Can you find out any distinction on whether the TE position is being played as a prototypical TE at all? Or if the TE position is just being flexed out at all times? Thank you. Good stuff as always guys!!!
Won’t be flexed out at all times, but you can expect to see a good bit of that.
I want to see Alex Ross flexed out wide…
See: Josh Norman…although I prefer “in this year’s performance, the part of Josh Norman will be played by Joe Mixon”.
Yeah, Mixon should be fun to watch..
I would hope that Riley can utilize the prototypical TE position. If nothing else, it will give defenses yet another look to prepare for. Will he be blocking or running a route? When he is flexed, he is always running a route.
K, are you getting the sense this early in camp that the days of favoritism have begun to go by the wayside and every position is getting an honest eval?
What’s a TE? LOL sorry had to say it once
Extinct since Gresham.
I remember some good plays James Hanna made…
No doubt, especially the long TD at okie st where he easily outran their secondary. However to clarify, Gresham was the last te to play an integral part in offense.
True!
Love hearing that Overton could really be a playfor us but at the same time its a little worrisome that if a true freshman could put that much pressure on our QBs then whats a VERY good and experienced Tennessee DL going to be able to do.
I’d read somewhere on the internet that Tennessee would be starting two true freshmen at DL this year. Kahlil McKenzie and Shy Tuttle.
McKenzie is a total beast. Check this out.
https://vine.co/v/ewbD36QKzXO
I remember really wishing OU could have gotten him.
OU was actually supposedly in the lead at one time for McKenzie but that lasted all of 10 minutes.
Yeah, I remember being excited for about 10 minutes lol.
was going to say the same thing until I read your comment.
Holy mess!
Just shows me that our more experienced DL will eat that OL up!!
Khalil’s a monster and he’s just getting stronger with a college training program. I told someone once that played against him in HS, if you want to stop Khalil, cut him, and hope you dont get concussed in the process. :-/
They can’t be too experienced. One of the things said about Tennessee last year was they were starting all new players on both the DL and the OL.
Just checked. Their 1st team DL is Sr/ Jr/ Fr/ So.
Also from reading quite a few Tennessee posters they seem to think that their DL is easily their best position group.
Living in N Alabama I know lots of Tennessee fans. Two things to keep in mind:
1) They wear Orange
2) Their schools initials are UT.
Along with that comes strong delusions of greatness.
Ummm, OU gave up just 9 sacks last year while recording 32. Tennessee gave up 43 sacks and recorded 35, 10 of which were by a true freshman.
I don’t know how relevant that will be this year but I don’t think OU’s OL will collapse and true freshmen CAN be very productive on the DL.
This years OL is totally revamped so I dont see a major correlation there but that being said I hope that youre right.
Dereck Barnett, the Soph DE is a beast. Other than that the Tennessee DL is pretty average. ChThe Sr & Jr combined had fewer tackles than Chuka last year. No idea about their true freshman this year.
I’d say their LB corps is their real strength.
read where they’ve recruited some stud fr dts, one being mckenzie (sp) that mont tried hard to get……..saw a tenn tape on him destroying one of their vet olineman in a man-on-man drill
well, old news, hadn’t scrolled down yet
They also brought in Shy Tuttle (dt) and a stud DE whose name escapes me right now.
They better hope their backers are their strength. They’re gonna get ran over by Perine.
All of last year’s vol DL and OL were first year starters.
They have some talent, but so does OU.
Love that. He really wanted this and was sweating not making it so I am certain he appreciates his opportunity even more. Think we will be very happy with Big ‘O’ and Gallimore over the next few years.
Joe missed the afternoon session due to a prior obligation with the media. His in depth interview with Jenni will be in tomorrow’s sports. Lmao.
Nice.
Is there a scrimmage this afternoon?
That’s the word. Saw some pics w/ refs on the field w/ the team, so it looks like that is the case.
I should try to sneak onto the field as a ref.
Do it!
I’d be like the Frank Drebin of college football. 🙂
Or this guy in the clean referee uniform running down the sideline, it is how he was able to sneak onto the field of a sold out game.
https://youtu.be/pd9ZVtG8sw4
Thank you! Hopefully no injuries and some players step up and really start to assert themselves.
Love what I’m hearing about Overton. I never wrestled (too big a pansy), but there is something about wrasslin’ that makes good football players great. Leverage and whatnot. I don’t know the science behind it, but I love the results.
Keep it up, Q. Looking forward to seeing you on the field. You too, Walker. And Dede. And J. Evans. And…
I think anyone that is going to play a line position would benefit greatly from either wrestling or judo. They would learn a lot about balance and leverage that could be applied in football.
I agree. Based on what I’ve seen from players who have.
Case in point Kelly Gregg.
I agree, as an old lineman that wrestled and studied judo, strength is important, stamina is even more important and learning how to control your body and your opponents is far more important.
I believe that every decent human being on Earth should study judo.
I took jiu jitsu for awhile. It’s judo’s meaner cousin. Was never good at it. But you do learn a lot of things upside down three feet in the air.
If you haven’t seen it, Akira Kurasawa’s first film Sanshiro Sugata, is about the clash between Jiu Jitsu and Judo. Great movie and also the modern source for “kamikaze” or divine wind.
http://broadcast.imdbhdmovies.com/play.php?movie=0036400
I’ll check it out.
There a video out there of a match between Gracie (the founder) and one of Judos top player ever. It was like from the 50s or 60s. It’s pretty good, I think the Judo player ended up winning.
Kimura vs Helio…Helio had a 40 lb disadvantage. Kimura won by a shoulder lock now named the kimura. I’ve trained under a Carlson Gracie black belt for 7 years now that’s how I know
That’s the one, it was a pretty good video just watching the different styles at a high level.
BJJ, judo, or freestyle wrestling it’s all good for you.
Of all the different forms I tried (Greco-Roman wrestling/goju-ryu/eskrima/judo, Judo was by far my favorite. Because of my instructor Dr. Kim(an olympic referee) the focus on proper “break falls” gave me a calm confidence boost unlike any of the others
I like old school judo not the point system BS they have now.
I’m witchu.
BJJ is getting the same way. Berimbolo and 50/50 crap makes me puke. Lucky for me my professor is old school. Pressure pressure pressure
Classical jiu jitsu or Brazilian? As a LEO we train in some BJJ techniques. There is a good reason why BJJ dominates UFC.
As far as martial arts I’ve trained in, I enjoy Krav Maga the most and Tae Kwon Do the least. TKD is pretty worthless in anything except a point-scoring refereed match. In a street fight, not so great. KM and BJJ on the other hand are much more effective and instinctual.
My favorite is BJJ but I do like Muay Thai. That’s toughest thing I have ever tried. Oh man, the bruises I would have hurt for days if not weeks.
It was out of a classic stream of jiu jitsu, but would borrow/steal techniques from other styles. Where I studied they would let you wear a belt that you had earned in any style. They would try to learn from you as much as teach you.
Funny thing was the TKD black belts usually came with a white belt the second time around. After you have had your leg swept out from under you a couple of times trying to throw those high kicks the TKD guys use you realize that you don’t know anything about falling.
In my current security job I had to learn some BJJ that centered around weapon retention. I really enjoyed that part of it.
And there is a world class judoka in Moore named Pat Burris.
Pat is a great man and his place(USA stars) is a good place to train at.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f3c9b5d4e92429b51bce52f7ce6f939145d6804d39a45454ad808d0c4e5ad228.jpg dsdffdfdff
Strong hands and forearms. Bench is the measurement but to me, if you have strong hands & forearms, you can control the person in front of you.
As evidenced by the great Kelly Gregg. Shame he had to be on some bad Sooner teams.
I wrestled in HS and was better than average. HS career record of 88-12 at a 3A Oklahoma HS. I think what wrestling contributed to my football skill set was balance and body control. That’s my opinion someone else might think different. Hope you and yours are well brother. God’s blessings to you.
Great input, man. And God’s blessings an you and yours also. By the way, I’m an east OK Sooner myself. Green Country.
Where are you man? I live just outside of Poteau.
Tulsa area. But rural. I live elsewhere but hail from T-Town.
Awesome. I have a brother and sister who have migrated to Glenpool. I was born and raised in the sticks and that’s where I’m staying! They can hardly get me to come and visit. I make them come down here and see us, hey, they were the ones who moved.
where at outside of Poteau? I’m in Wilburton.
About 8 miles straight east in a community called Gilmore. It would be north of Monroe. Foot of Sugarloaf mtn. Been in Wilburton many times, used to date a girl from there. I know a few people who live there. Nice town and beautiful country.
Right, I know exactly where you’re talking about. I can almost gaurantee if you know somebody from Wilburton I know them. That’s one of the perks of a small town.
Yep sure is. Don’t know if I should post there names on here or not but I bet your right, you probably do know them.
You can always hit me on Twitter and I’ll dm you my email address. Same username on twitter
I don’t have a twitter or FB. Just send me an email [email protected]
will do
http://www.soonersports.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=31000&SPID=127245&SPSID=750326&DB_OEM_ID=31000
This will help…
Hey, Toats. I’m seeing the roster when I follow the link. Is there something else I should be seeing?
No. It was in reference to the last part of your comment where you were listing all the players. I just figured I’d try to be funny…it hardly ever works for me…
LOL! D’oh. That went right over my head.
I think Hatari Byrd will surprise this year like his skill set and hitting ability.
Agreed
He packs a punch, no doubt.
Love a hard hitting safety.
Super K, any word on Austin Roberts and Courtney Garnett?
The Austin Roberts situation is starting to take a turn for the bizarre.
what could possibly be so hard about getting grade transcripts faxed on over?
Agree. I have been posting about this for days. What is really going on?
They’re using Elvis Dumervils agents fax machine?
rebuttal of the day!
Garnett is practicing, but I don’t believe the expectation is for him to contribute much this season.
I just looked at Robert’s Twitter and it says, “OU commit working on pass rush somewhere.” Lol. The tweets don’t reveal anything specific pertaining to transcript matter. As we both know, it’ll be on here as soon as something happens. I am super impatient.
I’m really hoping Overton will be another dominant defensive lineman.
I really like Andrews (TE), he seems pretty fluid and has some good hands. Im not sure if he blocks as well as Bell but he’s a good looking TE.
I think Carson Meier will prove to a better blocker, based on what I saw of his style of play in High School.
Really hoping we can land Cleveland! Would be a big get IMO
Me too.. Getting a visit is huge.. !!! Ole Miss and and TCU worry me the most.
Shea was his QB at The Opening and they lite it up. From there, they built a relationship which I’m sure Shea is trying his hardest to get him to Ole Miss. I think we just need to keep grinding and have some results on the field. He would be dynamic in Riley’s offense.
Yeah, I watched a few of those games at The Opening they were really in sync even told my friend watching with me wouldn’t be surprised if he went to Ole Miss. But OU did some good work and it’s paying off with the visit so you are right the offense needs to show out and let the chips fall where they may.
It was cool, I was there and visiting with both of them and they were having a ball. Good time and both are big time players.
I don’t want them to talk to each other.. Lol
I think TCU is the team to beat..iyo who do you think would be impact this class more Cleveland or Kelly?
Seems like a WR can make an immediate impact whereas Kelly could take over his Soph/Jr years. To me, they’re both impact players.
That’s a tough one. If Cleveland is going to be a DB at the next level, we could certainly receive a lift from a DB with his speed. (If he’s being recruited as a WR then I’d say it’s not even a contest giving Kelly the nod hands down, since we need the most help on D.)
I think Kelly would make the bigger impact. The combo of him, Youngquist and Terry would be a super athletic combo alone, and that’s not even counting the addition of Jefferson. If you get a dominant front 7 then a lot of pressure is taken off the secondary. However, you can have the greatest secondary ever, but if the defensive front seven can’t pressure the QB, receivers will get open and you’ll still get burned. The proximity of LBs to the LOS and the QB make them a greater priority.
So I’d say kelly would have the bigger impact of the two.That’s my humble opinion anyway.
Thanks man makes lots of sense. I do hope that they’re recruiting him as a WR he’s a game changer with his length and speed
Cleveland won’t play anything but a WR.
Immediate impact Cleveland he was come in and be a difference maker day 1. Long term, 3 yrs Kelly. But Cleveland would get OU on SportsCenter (recruits like that) every week.
TFB thank you guys for the info. Sucks to see everyone’s gotta hate because they can’t stand other people doing a better job then themselves. You guys are the best, again, thank you.
Is there some negative Twitter stuff going on?
Excellent info, Super K.
As always, greatly appreciated.
Love to hear about all the young talent that may contribute.
Nice report! Thanks as always for your work and presentation.
I feel like the overall tone of practice notes this season is
much more subdued than last season..I really hope that’s just cautious optimism
after feeling like you guys were possibly given too positive of notes last year…I
hope the news out of practice is actually much better than what you’re sharing!
Thanks for the great info, this stuff is amazing!
It’s been a couple of days without a “Boom!” and it’s time to feed the monster again. He’s getting hungry.
Uhhh, THAT monster can only be satisfied by savoring a Nation Championship.
How about some biscuits?
https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/zhiegpu.gif?w=300&h=220
Well we can only average one every two weeks until signing day. So that monster ain’t gonna eat very often.
Fire Monty???
Practice notes make my day. K or Jordan, I thought I read something yesterday about our guys not doing the Oklahoma Drill this year, but I could’ve misread because surely that can’t be right. Do y’all know anything about it?
I heard Dusty D discussing it on the sports animal a few days ago so safe to say it’s true. He was pretty bummed about it as we are all, I’m sure.
What will they take away from us next, scrimmages? I understand it’s a head on collision but it’s also something that occurs in football all the time. I believe it’s simply a PR move to make it seem like schools/universities are taking steps to prevent/limit head trauma but I don’t feel cutting this drill will do so.
Thanks for the info. I hadn’t heard official word here and don’t listen to radio much. Losing the Drill is disturbing since it’s such a tradition for our program. I don’t like it at all.
Exactly… and not just a tradition here but tradition all over the country from pee wee up through high school. Sad to think kids won’t be getting a tiny glimpse in to the tradition that is OU football by doing this drill growing up 🙁
Welp…
http://southcarolina.247sports.com/Bolt/WATCH-Gamecocks-Oklahoma-drill-38697029
First time post – new to this esteemed collection of SOONER fans… Have very much enjoyed and appreciated TFB’s postings and the subsequent thoughtful comments by this community.
BOOMER! 🙂
Welcome!
Welcome aboard!
SOONER!
Welcome!
Welcome to the board!
Off-topic
Ole Miss goes 9-4 and recruits think they’re going for a championship.
Oklahoma goes 8-5 and it’s we’re considered to be heading downhill.
Does anyone else see the perception problem that’s affecting recruiting?
***(YES I KNOW WE JUST HAD SOME REALLY GOOD SUCCESS ON THE RECRUITING TRAIL)***
SEC thing I guess
Ye Olde Miss coaches must not be telling the recruits about the NCAA investigation into their recruiting practices.
You mean about “The Network” that a lot of people seem to know about except for the NCAA?
I don’t know about that, just know they are being investigated. Seems to be focused on one of their Senior OTs who was at media days.
The bags of $20’s don’t hurt.
I thought that one was implied (-:
I don’t know about the rest of you but seeing passes thrown to the tight ends gets me excited about the season. I really don’t think teams will know where to defend us.
TEs meaning Carson Meier as well ?
I like the idea of OU using TE’s again, it just gives you another weapon on the field for the d to have to pick up. The last few years everybody knew the TE’s were not getting the ball.
Our offense should be multiple and deadly!
If the O line can do their part and we can get consistant QB play, this offense is going to be insane.