CFP Final Rankings | Open Thread

Here we go.

From what I could gather, last night — following the games from earlier that day/evening — the consensus appeared to be that Clemson is a virtual lock to stay at No. 1

After that No. 2, 3 & 4 could really come in any order, but it is widely believed that Alabama will also stay put at No. 2. Despite both Oklahoma and Michigan State having a considerably better overall resume, but S-E-f’ing-C and all that jazz, you know.

So it would seem the only real drama this afternoon will be between the No. 3 & 4 spot. Will the committee rely on the recency of the Spartans’ quality win Saturday night over an undefeated Iowa and jump them ahead of the Sooners? Or will OU’s late string of wins over ranked teams, two of which were on the road, keep them ahead of the Big 10 champs?

Personally, I’ve felt for some time they would eventually jump the Big 10 champ ahead of OU. So I’m fully expecting to see the Sooners at No. 4 today.

But I’m purely guessing just as much as everyone else out there, because nobody truly knows what this committee is going to do.

1,098 Comments

  • Lane Gilstrap says:

    I could see them jumping Iowa if they won, but MSU jumping to 3 would be a head scratcher to me. We have similar schedule credentials but OU has just looked better.

  • David Morris says:

    I don’t care if we are 2,3, or 4 as long as we are in. would be nice to be in Dallas, but it is not everything.

  • Tim A says:

    I too believe committee will be:

    Clemson
    Alabama
    MSU
    OU

    But my personal opinion of best team is:

    OU
    Clemson
    Alabama
    MSU

  • thebigdroot says:

    This whole debate is crap. The committee is just as biased as the ESPN talking heads and I believe are influenced by what is said in their post game shows.

  • soonermusic says:

    Amazing how many of the commentators last night and earlier in the week place OU at either 3 or often 4, but then when asked who has the best team right now, say OU.

    The other thing the commentators like to do is make it hard to tell whether they are expressing their own opinion about the order or whether they are predicting what they think the committee will do.

    My guess is that it will be Clemson, Bama, OU, Msu. But who knows. Most of the fun will be listening to their convoluted explanations for whatever order they come up with.

    • Lane Gilstrap says:

      “Convoluted explanations for whatever order they come up with.” It’s so true they make this crap up as they go along. Then change it to fit what they want. Like not factoring in our game until this week. We destroyed number 11 OSU by 35 away and will probably drop to 4 because MSU beat Iowa by 3.

  • soonermusic says:

    I am excited about the prospects, but all the other three teams have the potential to be very dangerous. I think OU may very well be the most dangerous, though.

  • STL Sooner says:

    I heard one of the talking heads say last night, “Alabama has more wins over 8 win teams than anybody.” No reference to the ranking of those teams, only to the number of wins. Perfect example of the sliding scale used to justify your opinion. It seems the opinion is formed and then the search for a set of numbers that might support your case are sought out.
    In the end, who cares right? Two more wins by any number of points against whichever teams are on the other side of the field = National Championship #8
    BOOMER!

  • Ed Cotter says:

    Heck, I don’t care as long as OU gets in. Gotta be in it, to win it. OU Gotta Believe!

  • soonerinks says:

    Makes me absolutely no difference where we are ranked so long as we are in the Top 4. Don’t care where the others are ranked either. Would be kind of poetic justice to get Clemson in the first game and Bama for the NC. I like our chances against any of them.

    • SoonerSpock says:

      I agree it makes no difference. You have to win two against the best two to win it all. However the Sooner fans deserve the opportunity to watch their Sooners play for the championship in an environment that has more of a home atmosphere like the SEC, ACC and Pac12 teams have been doing for eons so I guess I would prefer OU to have a #2 or #3 ranking.

  • Brien Brown says:

    I think people put to much hate on commentators say OU will be 3-4 when I think they are being realistic about how the committee will place them. Think they are giving props by saying OU is the most dangerous team, the commentators are not the selection committee so they are in reality just stating where they think we will placed despite how they feel about us. Mean if we want to be the best we got to go through the best seems everyone wants Bama in the semis and skip Clemson like are you all afraid to play them? Mean yes it is noted that we struggle with running QBs but seems we have done a solid job so far this year. I am just glad we are in that’s a lot better than I thought we would be this year just saying. Cut the commentators some slack they are doing their job and being realistic.

  • Zack says:

    I would only be shocked if 1-4 somehow does not include Clemson, bama, ou and msu. As far as the order I don’t think they want ou and bama to play in the first round, those 2 have the most name recognition and would be an epic title game if both made it through the first round.
    Plus with Clemson vs ou, you have the rematch angle and the venables vs stoops angle.
    With bama vs Michigan state you have Saban vs his old team.

    • Brien Brown says:

      But why gamble on a not sure thing when you can still get the revenue in a semi final game that argument makes sense but not considering that OU and Bama both winning in the Semis is not a guarantee but a semi final match up is. Same money and you know either team that wins will travel well.

      • Zack says:

        I think they will make more regardless in the final but I also think the 2 best teams are ou and bama.

  • Lane Gilstrap says:

    The only reason I would care about 1-4 is for our fans traveling. It would be much easier for us to go to Dallas than Florida. They never did care before that we played LSU in NOLA for the Sugar or UF in the Orange so why not OU in cotton? Nobody gave a damn about this before.

    • Sacramento Sooner says:

      It’s so true. Dallas has been such a topic of conversation, but you NEVER heard them talk about it any other time we played in those games.

    • DrewChubbs says:

      I think the biggest difference is that under the BCS, the championship and bowl games’ location was pre-determined, and teams only had to compete for 1st or 2nd place. There was no official consideration of seeding or perceived advantage. With the CFP, it has been allowed that the 1st seed will get the benefit of advantage. I really think that’s the only reason location is being discussed like it is. One drawback, as it pertains to OU, of this is it gives the committee the flexibility to nullify OU’s perceived advantage by moving them to the 4th seed, and to Miami, rather than Dallas.

  • leatherneck1061 says:

    We have seen all the evidence we need that Bama’s offense is a 1-trick pony. The long passes Coker threw up last night were unbelievable hail Mary’s where receivers were bracketed by 2-3 guys. Ridiculous he was able to get away with that more than once.

    • Lane Gilstrap says:

      That Clemson qb threw up a few as well that were just jump balls.

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      Just like Okie St tried to do.

    • Defend Colfax says:

      Hopefully we practice some of that. I’m not sure how much I trust our DBs on jump balls. They play sound but JT has a hard time getting his head around and Sanchez is susceptible on jump balls. Also Ahmad Thomas has played better but still is late getting over. I think we beat Bama convincingly but I’m not sure I can’t see their Wr’s getting a couple of those jump balls.

  • Bob Edwards says:

    Four months ago we were a distant third in the race for the B-12 championship http://www.cbssports.com/images/collegefootball/2015big12preseasonpoll335.jpg

    As many people were asking if Bob could save his job as were asking if we could win a B12 championship. A national championship was a fond memory of the past not something OU was going win.

    Today we stand at the top of the B12 heap. Our boots on the necks of our foes. We are in the playoffs and everything else happens on the fields. Opinions don’t matter once the whistle blows and the ball is in the air. We are the best of the four teams and we are disrespected. Bob Stoops coaches best when he is disrespected. We have a fiery QB who has overcome incredible odds to even be on the field. He should win the Heisman, but will be disrespected and the team will feed off that.

    Ladies and Gentlemen, I tell you its a great day to be a Sooner.

    • SoonerMagic76 says:

      Boomer!

    • SoonerOracle737 says:

      All we need now is some frozen tundra and history is ours.

    • Sacramento Sooner says:

      Well said indeed! BOOMER!!

    • soonerthunder says:

      I said it then, and I’ll say it again, the media is NEVER right. If you look back at their preseason polls, it’s usually someone they pick for 5th place who wins it. It just goes to show that they are laughable. They really don’t know much, folks, they just act like they do.

      • Hooknladder says:

        When Baker showed up the coaches got a whole lot smarter!

        • soonerthunder says:

          Plus when:
          –almost the entire D came back, esp. every DB who had experience of seeing the Big 12 D a whole year before in ’14, allowing esp. young pups studs like Parker, Bond (JC guy but 1st yr in system) and Thomas to grow up, and Walker and several backups to mature (eg: Evans, Bolton, Austin, etc.)
          –AND all their backups; depth everywhere
          –AND plus people like Will Johnson and all-big 12 LB Shannon who couldn’t crack the starting lineup when he returned a better player himself
          –AND all the DBs being in one room and on the same page in their playcalling
          –AND a healthy Shep, as good of a WR in the nation the last TWO yrs, all year
          –AND the addition of a better WR corp–Baxter and Westbrooke and Andrews beat out anyone we had the yr b/f except Neal
          –AND not only a yr older Perine but Mixon
          –AND Riley and a new system
          –AND a better kicking game (remember KSU ’14?)
          –AND an extremely competitive BS who can’t stand getting beat and wants more than anyone realizes to beat a team that beat him the yr b/f

          It wasn’t just Mayfield. True, Mayfield is an improvement at QB, but it’s not just him. I believe that TK would hv been much improved himself, much like Boykin from his SO to his JR in this new system and w/Riley designing plays around his skill set w/all the improvements everywhere else on this TEAM.

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  • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

    It will be the following (I think):

    Clemson
    The Gumps
    Michigan State
    OU

    As an addition, the match ups from a Top 4 should be #1 vs #3 and #2 vs #4. This allows a better chance of the games being more evenly matched, from a ranking perspective, than #1 vs #4 and #2 vs #3.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    BOOMER!

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Muschump Gamecocks coach!

  • BoomerDave says:

    I laugh when I hear about how ESPN has such a hatred of OU. Many on here go nuts every time a commentator says anything nice about Alabama, but I’ve heard tons of love for OU from almost every commentator on ESPN. Does anyone on here complain when Herbstreet constantly touts OU? Or when ESPN’s own Power Rankings have OU No. 1? Should we be No 1 in the rankings? No! It’s a toss-up between 2-4 and we have the worst loss of the remaining 3. Personally, I think we drop to 4th for the very reason that the NCAA’s television partners would much prefer an OU/Alabama Championship Game.

    • Defend Colfax says:

      Yeah but someone lost to Nebraska

      • BoomerDave says:

        No doubt, but that was widely recognized as a horrible rip-off.

        • Defend Colfax says:

          One play lost it? I thought you were the voice of reason?

          • BoomerDave says:

            Normally, I agree. But wasn’t the huge miscall on the last play of the game?

          • Zack says:

            What about all the holding missed calls vs Texas? To be honest the loss to Texas is bad but it’s not worse than the Nebraska loss and it’s not much worse than the ole miss loss for bama. I bet Texas could beat both, mainly because they would be under dogs but they have more talent everywhere except at quarterback.

          • Walter Sobcek says:

            Horns have a pretty solid RB in Warren.

          • Defend Colfax says:

            Still they lost to Nebraska, as Nebraska put up one of their higher totals of the year on MSU. I don’t think OUr loss looks worse. Beside’s I agree with most of what you said but I think it’s incorrect to say our loss was definitively worse.

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      This is fair. However, ESPN perpetuates the false narrative of 1. Big 12 doesn’t play defense, 2. SEC is THE conference etc…Desmond Howard, Joey Galloway, Paul Finnebaum, Chris Fowler, and others have consistently shown a negative view toward OU.

      • Martin says:

        No joke. Since Trev Alberts left the building, the B12 has no one reppin the conference. Until OU played 3 consecutive ABC national TV broadcasts, they barely got a blip of mention.

      • Walter Sobcek says:

        Fine Palmburn needs to be run over by the Sooner Schooner.

      • Rick says:

        If it weren’t for Herbie givin us love, we would have no one in OUr corner (media wise), most of OUr local media seemed to be caught up this year also with the SEC theme.

      • Dick Bump says:

        I think it’s naive to not think ESPN has an agenda and tries to push that agenda. I think a good example of that was bringing on the 1 time “expert” to bash the Big 12 as “basketball” league and unworthy of having a representative in the top 4. With the number of hours of redundant college football programming, they need something to get people to watch.

    • Kuzi says:

      I like Pollack’s constant harping on the Big XII not playing a championship game. Below has conference championship games included:

      OU played 9 conference opponents, one power 5 nonconference game, and 2 group of five.

      Alabama played 9 conference opponents, one power 5 nonconference game, 2 group of 5 nonconference games, and 1 FCS team.

      MSU played 9 conference opponents, one power 5 nonconference game, 3 group of 5 nonconference games.

      Clemson played 9 conference opponents, one power 5 nonconference game, 1 independent nonconference game, 1 group of five, and one FCS.

      No one seems to mention the fact that the Big XII teams play an extra conference game. I’m sure OU would be glad to add an FCS team to our schedule to make it fair.

  • STL Sooner says:

    PU and MSU have very similar resumes.
    The unexplainable loss > Texsa and Neb
    Both could or should have lost a game they won > TCU and Mich
    Both could or should have lost a game they won > Tenn and Neb
    Both have quality wins over ranked team >
    OU >>>> @ Tenn +7(2OT), WVU +20, @ Baylor +10, TCU +1, @ OSU+35
    MSU >>> Oregon +3, @ Michigan +4, @ tOSU +3, Iowa +3
    Avg points scored > OU 45.75 MSU 32.07
    Avg points allowed > OU 20.75 MSU 20.46
    We will see how the committee feels in about 20 minutes.

  • Walter Sobcek says:

    Would like to see OU play in Dallas so as many OU fans as possible can make the trip.

  • RBear says:

    Looks like the media has shifted to a Big X love fest now.

    Anyone have any idea what the highest scoring game between 2 Big X teams was this year?

    Boring football to me, hopefully the committee has very little shake up in their top 4.

    Clemson
    Bama
    OU
    M State

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    We’ll take fourth. No matter. We are the first Big 12 team to make the playoff. It’s been a good year. May get better. 11-1. Took back what’s ours, beat Baylor, Pukes, and TCU. And Texas still sucks.

  • thebigdroot says:

    How does OSU get the Sugar Bowl if TCU is ranked ahead of them?

  • Dick Bump says:

    I would like to see them in Big D, so I can go to the game, but I like our chances against any of the teams at a neutral site. It’s fairly obvious ESPN’s agenda is to keep OU out of Dallas, let’s hope the committee values their opinion as much as I do.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Thinking about Clemson, watched that game last night. Total read option team. Their rb is really fast, so is the QB. Top shelf level Texas type offense. Then they lob it up deep downfield. The qb is 50% on deep balls. That’s best in the NCAA. They are better than 2014 of course. But we are so diverse.

  • leatherneck1061 says:

    These guys just raised a good point. It’s too quiet right now. I would never have thought we’d get screwed at this point. But……still….

  • RBear says:

    Alright Ladies and Germs, everyone settled into their favorite easy chairs, tuned to the appropriate channel?

  • Walter Sobcek says:

    How much of a distraction will it be for Bama’s defense with Smart heading out the door? He will certainly have one eye focused on recruiting, staffing, etc

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Boomer!

  • Gurry says:

    Mornin gents! Here we go, will it be Miami or Big D!?

  • Jeff says:

    Miami lock

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Bama can’t throw the ball. No balance.

  • RBear says:

    Keeping in mind that the players/coaches do not care who their opponent is, they’re ready so I guess I am too.

  • OUhound says:

    Should be entertaining

  • OohRah Mama says:

    Here we go. Love and blessings to my Sooner & TFB Family. Can I get a BOOMER..

  • OUhound says:

    I’m not sure this really makes any difference.

  • leatherneck1061 says:

    Seems like I still keep seeing pundits who are convinced Bama is the best team in CFB. I don’t get it. What am I missing?

  • lulzer says:

    Four… Let’s get!!! Orange Bowl, Baby!!!

  • Daddy R says:

    hahahaha.. Business as usual in Tuscaloosa, they say. Team is not even there.

  • RBear says:

    Good luck to Baker today for the Walk-On Player of the Year award.

  • KatyOUdad says:

    This show is on until 3pm. Do we have to wait until 2:50pm to find out?

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      Hope not.

    • RBear says:

      oh no… didn’t realize that. crapola

    • Daddy R says:

      It is? damn.

    • Zack says:

      I think they announce the top 4 at 11:30 and then the rest of it is the bowl selection show for all the bowl games. Then they probably talk about the match ups for the last 2 hours.

    • Rick says:

      Not disputing you but this is quote from SB Nation:
      After nearly two months of rankings, we finally have a College Football Playoff selection show that matters. The selection committee for the Playoff will announce its picks live on ESPN and WatchESPN on Sunday, starting at 12:30 p.m. ET.

      Then, around 3 p.m. ET, the committee will announce the final top 25 rankings, along with the pairings for the rest of the New Year’s Six bowls: the Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Fiesta Bowl and Peach Bowl. Committee chair Jeff Long will speak around 3:30 p.m.

    • RBear says:

      I can’t stomach 4 hrs of the media spinning this… anyone know exactly when the announcement will be made? How it played out last year?

  • Daddy R says:

    Hey, you guys watching selection show, but also who have fantasy teams. Dont forget to last minute check your lineups getting caught up in this show! I almost forgot my teams existed. ha!

  • RBear says:

    Way to speak up Herbie!!!

  • Gurry says:

    Here goes Pollock…. Saying OU played backups and you have to look at it…. He picked Baylor and OSU over us KNOWING the injuries… Hypocrisy

  • Gurry says:

    Here goes Pollock…. Saying OU played backups and you have to look at it…. He picked Baylor and OSU over us KNOWING the injuries… Hypocrisy

  • Brad Warren says:

    Fucking hate Pollack. Clown!

  • leatherneck1061 says:

    I hope everyone is seeing this. Outside of Herbie, the M.O. is clearly “screw the Sooners.”

  • Defend Colfax says:

    When you go to the ESPN website it shows OU as 4. I’m not sure if that was an accident or if that’s just a simulation. But I will not be surprised if we come in at 4.

  • Daddy R says:

    Talking about the possible Dallas “home” game for us… saying it like the committee should avoid putting us there if they can.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Here we go…

  • Daddy R says:

    Bill Swinney doesnt sound near as cool as Dabo.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Who should we want to play? Clemson or Bama?

  • OUhound says:

    Man, you just got to love Finebaum!!!
    He is so deliciously low.
    So easy to dislike.

  • Bart Young says:

    The Sooners being seeded 4th, as speculated, is a slap in the face. The metrics I’ve seen pretty consistently show OU as the #1 or #2 seed. A 4 seeding will hopefully add further fuel to fire that has been driving this team all year and especially since Texas. In a way, the 4 seed just plays right into this teams hands.

  • Tucker says:

    Everyone sure has forgot after one week that OU plays football too.

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    Going to be really difficult to argue if OU is bumped to four, and the biggest reason they give is b/c we didn’t play that extra, CCG game.

    Expansion. It needs to happen.

  • Bob Edwards says:

    Finebaum has a face ideal for radio.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Jess Palmer pumping us up!

  • KatyOUdad says:

    Maybe OU should schedule a FCS school so they have an extra game like the SEC. Give me a break about playing Conference Champ Game. OU did play a CCG last week vs Ok St.

  • Dustin says:

    Pollock needs to decide whether he’s gonna shave or not. Don’t go halfway, dude. What a tool bag.

  • Daddy R says:

    I really, really wouldn’t care if they just named the top 4, and then drew the “seats” out of a hat. OR the lottery ball thing. That would be cooler, and waste much less time.

  • RBear says:

    Drum Roll Please………

  • OUhound says:

    LOL. They sure are dramatizing this.

  • RBear says:

    OK… there’s our motivation

  • OohRah Mama says:

    Figures.

  • Gurry says:

    Damn, dual threat qb

  • Fear The Magic says:

    BOOM…….Beat Clemson!

  • JD says:

    IN…all I care about!

  • Kuzi says:

    Bob Stoops redemption tour rolls on

  • RBear says:

    See you guys on NYE

  • Tucker says:

    Roll Turd vs Meat Chokin St = Most Boring Game of the Century

  • Gurry says:

    Alright MS, get a GREAT gameplan going!

  • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

    We’re gonna F you up, Clemson.

  • Jeff says:

    Dallas screwed us

  • Bluegrass Sooner says:

    Have to win 2, no matter the seed.

  • OohRah Mama says:

    **** you, committee. And the horse you rode in on.

  • EasTex says:

    Never thought for an instant that OU would move down.
    /hunh

  • BleedCrimson says:

    I knew it! They were going to drop us to ensure that either BIG or Sec would be in the NC game!

  • Kuzi says:

    I’m glad the last second win on a neutral field was more impressive than a 35 pt win on the road.

  • Brad Warren says:

    I’m glad we got Clemson first. Boomer!

  • rainydaze114 says:

    I love the Orange Bowl. OU has a good history there.

  • RBear says:

    We just got disrespected one last time- perfect motivation to march right through this field.

    We’re also most familiar with Clemson due to last years game- probably plays out best for us.

    BOOMER!!!

  • Kuzi says:

    Joey Galloway took the Big 10’s D out of his mouth long enough to say Michigan State earned it to jump OU.

  • Dustin says:

    25 DAYS!!! Can none of these a-holes do that math?

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Venables better do HIS homework, much different team these days. Don’t think our boys will need much motivation to kick the crap out of them I would guess

  • Daddy R says:

    Funny how espn finally props up our FPI, but its after the playoffs are set and we are 4. lol. ratings makers.

  • Bob Edwards says:

    So next year, if Stoops is talking about beating Bama, no one is going to complain. AmIRight

  • Gurry says:

    Ugh, already a favorite

  • Brad Warren says:

    We opened as 2.5 pt favorite v Clemson

  • RBear says:

    I think the distraction of the Heisman build up and possibly the awarding of it to Watson would distract Clemson more than it would us- we’d just look at it as another snub.

    • Mizuno44 says:

      Yep, just like we mentioned last night, sets up Striker’s reenactment of T Marshall in 2000

      • D Hunter Sanchez says:

        I am worried that MS will not set a spy on Watson. He runs it three four times in a row.

        • William Ryan says:

          As long as we don’t play a prevent style d all game allowing him to move in out of the pocket at will.

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      We need think of stopping Watson 1st, the rb second and make them throw deep.

  • KatyOUdad says:

    Do we play the early game or late game that day?

  • RBear says:

    How healthy was Perine in the Bowl last year? Can’t remember.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    We need to prepare against the

  • GreginDestin says:

    Well, the committee attempted to screw OU and more aptly, help the wussy boys, Alabama, by serving Michigan State up. So, the movie is cast and OU is going to Miami to play Clemson and Brent Venables. It is time to finish the “PAYBACK TOUR”. Baylor, TCU, and Kansas State, mission complete, now Clemson. It is time to not merely defeat Clemson, but DESTROY them.

  • Tucker says:

    One game at a time. Let’s get it done!

  • leatherneck1061 says:

    As far as I’m concerned the conspiracy theorists have been proven correct. This is a combination of anti B12 bias and “screw-you OU” all rolled up into one. Don’t bother defending this committee’s supposed integrity. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it 😉

    • SoonerinLondon says:

      Not Big XII bias or screwing OU. The Committee just didn’t want a 3 cede to get a “home” game, IMO.

      A lack of integrity, as I stated in my earlier post on the game thread, but not a bias.

      • leatherneck1061 says:

        What you just described is basically “screwing OU.” They’re ok with other teams having what amounts to a home-field advantage, but OU must never be permitted such niceties. That is totally screw OU. Don’t see how anyone can see it any other way.

        • SoonerinLondon says:

          What I’m saying is that I don’t think it has anything to do with OU. OU just happens to be the 3 seed and close to Dallas.

          If the 3 team was playing in the Rose Bowl, and UCLA, USC or Stanford were number 3, I think they would have lowered them as well.

          It’s not OU. It’s the integrity of ranking the top 4 without regard for venue or matchup. I didn’t think they had that integrity and I think they proved it today.

      • j l says:

        Seeds determine venue, not the other way around.

  • soonermusic says:

    “At Bob’s Victory Grille in Tuscaloosa, there was a bigger cheer when Michigan State was announced as the 3 seed than when Alabama’s name was called. Fans happy to see the Spartans and not Oklahoma.” espn

    • SoonerinLondon says:

      Smart fans.

    • paganpink says:

      They can only delay the inevitable. They know we’ve played only three times since we tied them in 1970 and they lost every game! Of course they may get beat by Michigan State but otherwise they can’t run forever

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    Two things Long just said makes me thing the two things that hurt OU are not having a CCG and playing 3 backup QB’s in the final three weeks, against our best three opponents. No other reason anybody could argue OU’s resume was “4th” best unless those two things hurt us.

    Can’t do anything about playing the backup QB’s. But the Big 12 needs to expand. We need that extra game, preferably against a top 10-15 team, to bump up our resume. If they are looking at resumes in terms of record against top 25 (or whatever) teams, not playing and winning a game against an additional top 25 team hurts.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      I think the backup QB thing hurt our eye test too. Only explanation, b/c we’ve won games fairly comfortably, while teams like MSU squeaked out, in some terms, lucky wins.

      • DCinAZ says:

        Clemson beat Notre Dame and FSU who were both playing their backup QBs.

        • SoonerfanTU says:

          I wouldn’t call that ND’s backup QB. That dude started the entire season, and had started 3 full games before they played Clemson.

          Besides, Clemson is undefeated. If you go undefeated through an entire season, as a P5 team, and especially if you are the only undefeated team, you deserve to be #1.

          • j l says:

            If he was better than zaire, he would have started the season, but he didnt.

            Hes a good backup, but still a backup.

          • SoonerfanTU says:

            That’s not the point. ND played all season with that guy as their QB, and had a good season. Having Zaire start against Clemson shouldn’t make that Clemson win worth less. OU beating those three teams that went the entire season with other QB’s, that factors in. We just didn’t know how much until the Committee actually went through the ranking process.

          • SoonerfanTU says:

            But again, it doesn’t matter. Clemson is #1 for other reasons.

          • j l says:

            Yet, they are underdogs to us….and MSU would be underdogs to us as well.

            It should honestly be bama, ou, clemson, and msu

            FSU was undefeated and was behind 2 1 loss teams, theres precedent already

          • DCinAZ says:

            Well then we can’t call Walsh a “backup” either.

          • SoonerfanTU says:

            Walsh played all season, but he didn’t start 1 game this year, and didn’t play the majority of the snaps in any game. Not sure I get your point.

        • Jon Nakata says:

          Clemson also did not lose to Texas… or anybody

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      Then you have to split divisions again. Any ideas?

      • Bob Edwards says:

        I say put us in the SEC West.

        • Daddy R says:

          Well, if we are going that route, I’d say put us in B1G with Nebraska. Play tejas and okie state every year OOC, and then you’d have OU-Neb, OU-TEX, and OU-O-state. Every year. Wouldnt even matter the rest of our schedule, We’d always have one of the best resume’s, especially when you throw in the occasional OU-Penn St, OU-tOSU, OU-Mich st, etc, etc..

          • soonerinks says:

            No way should we go to the B1G. That conference is the most boring football and I can’t stand to watch 2 of their teams play. I would rather watch paint dry, it is much more entertaining.

          • Daddy R says:

            Same could be said for SEC ball. I hated the florida-bama game. At least Iowa-Mich State was entertaining. And, just because you join the conference, doesnt mean you switch to “their” type of football. A few years of ass kicking from the Sooners, and they’d start to switch something up.. Either way, all of those games, and matchups, become much more interesting when the Sooners are playing in them, whichever one they went to.

          • soonerinks says:

            I will pass.

          • Daddy R says:

            Well hell, I’d prefer to bring back Nebraska and add Arky to big 12, but that’ll never happen.

      • Daddy R says:

        Depends on who you add. Get two teams from east, and try and go East-West. OR don’t do geographic divisions at all, and make it “old school-new school.” or something liek that..

      • SoonerfanTU says:

        Depends who we add. I’d like to add Cincy and Memphis/UCF/SF, which means something like what we used to have (North/South).

        • SoonerfanTU says:

          I realize a Florida school wouldn’t really be “north”, but you can’t split up the OK/TX schools.

  • JD says:

    Who do we use to mimic Watsons dual threat…TK or CT

  • soonermusic says:

    I don’t get all the concern about being #4. It doesn’t matter. Win 2.

  • Mustvid says:

    I like it. Intangibles are now in play. Our boys feel disrespected because of dropping and the revenge factor. I wasn’t impressed with Clemson yesterday. Now we will see how Mike handles a mobile QB. He is the X factor for Clemson. If they can control him OU wins.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Evidently we’re going to have to earn our respect the Smith Barney way, “Earn It”

  • Zack says:

    Time to avenge our last 6 losses. First Clemson then bama. Since they weren’t playing for a championship that counts as a loss right?

  • OUhound says:

    Hope TFB does a good breakdown on Clemson.

  • Ed Cotter says:

    Nice! Get to finish the Redemption Tour on Dec. 31 vs. Clemson and then go get #8 on Jan. 11. BOOMER!

  • Tom Turman says:

    I can see it now…Watson wins the Heisman and at pregame toss Eric Striker tells Watson he is “coming for my boy’s trophy”…let’s do this…

  • Tucker says:

    Anymore notes on the recruiting trail? Any reactions to the selection?

  • Daddy R says:

    Saban has a stiffy for Henry.

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    I don’t like that we’re already favorites over Clemson though. Want to play that underdog card as much as possible.

    • Daddy R says:

      I have a feeling they are going to play up the “beatdown” we took last year enough, that I’m hopin our boys remain fierce. Underdog has served us well in the past though..

    • Kevin Burger says:

      Favored or not, our guys were embarrassed last year, and I don’t think Vegas’s opinion will impact them much at all, if any.

    • Hunter Frantz says:

      I think it helps that at least they’ve moved us back a spot in the rankings. Maybe coach can play that as us being doubted.

  • Josh says:

    Big 12 0-13 in non conference games at Jerry World… I am not mad at all about #4

  • Defend Colfax says:

    Henry has 60 carries and multiple contusions vs Sparty book it.

  • Dustin says:

    This is why the CFP committee shouldn’t put out a Top 25 every week. You can’t talk up MSU’s “resume'” when you’re the one who provided them with said resume’. Beating “number 4 Iowa” is a feather that the CFP placed into MSU’s cap. Nobody outside of Iowa City thought the Hawkeyes were on of the best teams in the country. In the end, it matters not to me. Line OU up against anyone, anywhere, I say. We’re bringing home #8.

    • Mizuno44 says:

      If they leave it weekly, should be televised so they can be held accountable

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      Great freaking point. This committee has the potential for a lot of insider moves. They tell us the people in that committee are people of integrity. Fine. But We have laws and rules for a reason.

      • soonerthunder says:

        The Big 12’s problem is that they only have one guy from the Big 12 on the committee, whereas the Big 10 and SEC have 3 guys on the committee. They have a lot of “integrity” for their conferences.

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      Great freaking point. This committee has the potential for a lot of insider moves. They tell us the people in that committee are people of integrity. Fine. But We have laws and rules for a reason.

  • Hunter Frantz says:

    Moving us back one is good. We’re better when doubted yes?

  • Indy_sooner says:

    personally, I hope we get bumped, but only because it spurs the boys.

    Edit: See we drew Clemson,…BRING IT! Orange cats won’t know what hit em’

  • OUhound says:

    Just made a quick check on distance. We are twice as far to Miami, roughly 1,500 miles compared to roughly 750 miles for Clemson. they’ll be able to drive it in about 10.5 hours.

  • Tipman says:

    Anyone know when the kickoff time will be announced?

  • SamSooner says:

    Did anyone notice the reaction of the OU players? I think they’re pissed they were moved down.

  • SamSooner says:

    It doesn’t matter what they do, the committee. God has said “when he is for you, who can stand against you?”

  • Jon Nakata says:

    We need a “Big Brother : CFP Selection Committee” Show…

  • OUhound says:

    Ha, giving Saban his love. If he’s that great, how come Stoops owned him?

  • Tom Turman says:

    Something lost in the difference between last year and this year: last year, Brent Venables was familiar with the offensive schemes that OU would be running and with the personnel that OU had. He knew what Heupel would do before Heupel knew. Venables won’t be as familiar with personnel, but he won’t have any idea what Riley is going to do. On the flipside, OU has a pretty good idea what Brent’s schemes will be.

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      BV will go back and check how he prepared against Tech. One thing he won’t be prepared for in relation to the Air Raid…a power running game.

      • Tom Turman says:

        Brent didn’t always have a lot of success against Tech. My point was, though, that last year Brent had a distinct advantage vs. Heupel’s predictible and depleted offense. This year he won’t. Granted, Watson didn’t play in last year’s game, so OU won’t see a carbon copy of last year’s Clemson offense either, but I think OU’s offense will have success against Clemson’s defense and OU’s defense, as a result, will not be on the field so much. It won’t be 40-6 again.

        • JB says:

          I think we’re going to see a defensive game plan similar towhat we used against Tennessee, with Bond and Striker on the field at the same time. Hopefully we’ll line up Thomas against their WR (Renfro) to shut that aspect down. Watson doesn’t impress me as a passer. He’s solid in that category but not great. If we can bottle up his running ability, we can win.

      • Nate Broadus says:

        OU’s ability to go power on the ground out of the Air Raid is one of the reasons why this Sooner team is lethal. There isn’t another team in the nation that can do it as well as OU, nor do those teams have backs like Perine and Mixon to hand off to.

    • Sacramento Sooner says:

      We knew what Heupel was going to run before he ran it. Agreed. Riley has the advantage. I think he’ll have some insight on our D, but the difference this year is we are so much more versatile.

    • JB says:

      BV never had difficulty with stopping the run. A forward pass, however, confounded the hell out of him. Last year, we couldn’t pass. This year, different story.

    • Rene Goupillaud says:

      Our secondary is much better this year.

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    As expected

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Hey Joey, Bama can be angry, they still can’t complete the ball downfield consistently.

  • Sooner_Ace says:

    On a lighter note, the boys can’t away from teams in orange, huh? 🙂

  • OUhound says:

    Ah Shep.

  • Daddy R says:

    Sterling on right now…

  • SoonerOracle737 says:

    I think we are in the ideal situation. Beat Clemson and let Bama and MSU bloody up each other so we get less than full strength opponent in title game.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    They did cheer!

  • Recondo says:

    I believe we complete the revenge tour and beat Sparty for #8. MSU won’t let Bama get away with having no offense and will get the upset in Dallas.

    • John Garner says:

      Yeah, I’m rooting for Sparty, and not simply because I hate Saban and Bama, but because I like MSU’s attitude. Hey they’re 6-1 in the last 7 games against ranked opponents in which they were not favored. They don’t back down from anyone..

  • Mizuno44 says:

    at least it sets up for the two best teams for NC Title

  • Austin says:

    Kirk is about to knock David pollack in the floor.

  • Dustin says:

    I think Pollack has been pronouncing his name wrong all these years.

  • OUhound says:

    Pollack is a real bonehead.

  • JD says:

    Man I bet those back up qbs we faced would start on more than half of the sec teams..plus our back up played in our game that got close at the end…who cares we re in and thats all that matters now…sucks we didn’t go to Dallas but I think this is prob the better path..Playing Bama will be physical on our guys tackling him so I prefer to get the passing team first

  • SamSooner says:

    I’m so proud of this team for finding its center. There were a lot of people, some on here, who thought this team would win 8 or 9 games. I’m certainly glad they didn’t listen to anyone outside of the program.

  • bjwalker82 says:

    when do we learn of the other bowls

  • Cedarsooner says:

    Vegas opening line has OU a 2 point favorite and Alabama a 9 point favorite

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Sanchez needs to dial in and be ready, I think they’ll target him especially.

    • John Garner says:

      Definitely. As I recall Tennessee did as well and they had a lot of success. He’s got a lot of picks but I don’t think he’s our best corner.

      • Jon Nakata says:

        honestly. He IS our best corner, WHEN he is our best Corner. His on days are awesome,but his off days hurt.

        • John Garner says:

          Good point. My bad. He had an “off” day versus OSU. I’m sure the coaches will know that picking on him will be part of Clemson’s strategy. I hope he does too.

      • Mizuno44 says:

        The OSU game was another one, I watched the replay and didn’t see the offensive push off’s as described.

      • DCinAZ says:

        I don’t recall Tennessee having a lot of success throwing period much less throwing at Sanchez.

      • SoonerinLondon says:

        He will almost certainly leave OU with the most picks in OU history.

        Not sure if that makes him the best corner, but…

        • Bob Edwards says:

          Sanchez has always been somewhat of a high risk – high reward guy. He get’s a lot of picks but get’s burned sometimes because he is going for the big play.

      • AdamsHall says:

        Sanchez needs to get the ankle completely healed up.

  • Cedarsooner says:

    I agree

  • Bluegrass Sooner says:

    The difference in OU and MSU was one top ten win. How many top ten wins does Bama have? I would ask why wasn’t that considered but I know the answer already.

  • OUhound says:

    This is my favorite part of our matchup. I think our D Line is going to really eat their O line alive.

  • Jon Nakata says:

    Am I wrong in thinking this will be the most Complete Team Oklahoma has faced? I really feel like Clemson will the the best team we have seen all year. (TCU would have been, but injuries).

  • Dustin says:

    The worst part of OU being #4 is all the pompous d-bags on espin puffing their chests about how they were right.

    • Austin says:

      That’s fine, lets watch them eat their crow when Ou is #1 in the final rankings.

    • Zack says:

      All that matters is were in the 4. Who cares what ESPN thinks. If Clemson loses in the first round then it won’t matter what ESPN thinks about our ranking.

      • Dustin says:

        Personally, I don’t care a bit. But, I’m sitting here waiting for the rest of the bowl announcements and that $hit is annoying lol

        • Zack says:

          If ou wins it all they will be all ou for the next year so it doesn’t bother me at all.

          • Dustin says:

            I’m only watching cuz my girl is a UA alum so we’re waiting for their bowl destination. I say Liberty Bowl but she wants to see the “official” announcement.

  • Ed Cotter says:

    Finebaum- OU vs. Alabama National Championship.

  • Lane Gilstrap says:

    I believe OUr boys have been wanting Clemson badly. Now it’s time to go handle business.

  • Bluegrass Sooner says:

    Seeded 4th, favored by 2. How does this show the Committee is doing anything differently than how things have been done in the past? Record and reputation trumps everything else.

    • BoomerDave says:

      So you’re saying why have a committee? Just let Vegas pick and seed the final 4 teams?

      • Bluegrass Sooner says:

        Not really, just struggle with inconsistencies. I am happy where we are. We have to beat 2 of the other 3 teams no matter what the seeding is.

      • Pokerman says:

        I would actually prefer that to the piece-of-crap selection process we have now. Would be more believable.

    • Ed Cotter says:

      I actually wish we weren’t favored.

    • Tom Turman says:

      Vegas doesn’t care about anything but making money. The line starts at 2.5 and will go where the money goes. If Clemson ends up a favorite in the end or if OU ends up a huge favorite depends on where the money is spent. Vegas doesn’t care either way. That being said, Vegas isn’t stupid. They aren’t going to set a line that will lose them money.

      • Dustin says:

        This. Kills me when people say “favorite” or “dog”. If that were true, the line wouldn’t move. Expect the line to move towards 10 in the next 3 1/2 weeks.

      • j l says:

        Initial lines are based off internal power rankings though. If vegas thought clemson was the better team, they would have started off as favorites.

  • Bill Holder says:

    We’ll play anyone, anywhere, anytime. Just tell us and we’ll be there. By the way, tell whoever we’re playing to put their best foot forward because we are going to run by you, over you, and around you. As Bob once told Lester ……I don’t need anyone telling us we’re the best, we know it.

  • paganpink says:

    Two more big games coming up! BOOMER SOONER! Win it all!

  • Mizuno44 says:

    I’ve heard some of our players say they haven’t played their best football yet, so I’m anxious to see that over the next two games

  • Bill Holder says:

    I hope everything written mentions the beat down they put on us last year.

  • Defend Colfax says:

    Clemson is very real, the only team in the final 4 I was concerned about. I’m sure they didn’t want us in the semi’s.

    • JB says:

      Watch the Syracuse and S Carolina games. That ought to assuage any fears of Clemson you may have. MSU scares me quite a bit.

  • OU85 says:

    Just took a quick look at Clemson’s opponents and their records. Lot’s of 3-9 teams. I think they are dangerous but their schedule was pretty weak and they had a lot of close games. If we played that schedule and had those type of scores, I would be concerned.

  • Jon Nakata says:

    Im interested to see how Brent’s Defense holds up against Rileys Offense as opposed to FUJH’s offense…

    • Bob Edwards says:

      I think that team had given up, particularly the offense. I think Heupel and Norvell either knew or at least sensed they were done.

      • Jon Nakata says:

        even so… there is no arguing that Coach V had issues with spread offenses in the Big 12… and that is clearly not what we had going on last year…

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      You mean how it does vs Mayfield instead of Knight?

    • William Ryan says:

      I promise you Venables knew Heuple tendencys… almost as If he was given a copy of the game plan prior to kickoff.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    We’ve struggled against two dimensional QB’s historically, but my gut says our defense is as prepared for that attack than they have been in a long time.

    • Jon Nakata says:

      Tennessee, Tulsa, OKState, WVU(to an extent) all have/had 2 Dimensional QBs, and you have to assume that Mike went into this year prepping for BOykin and Russell as well (not OUr fault they were hurt)…. I want to say that I think they have a plan…

      • Mizuno44 says:

        Agree, more specifically referring to last and previous years, basis of my comment applied to improvements witnesses this year

      • Daryl says:

        Just for the sake of playing devils advocate here is all. Tenn. was the most run oriented offense we saw for sure and we held up. Baylor, TCU, and pokes all were down starting QBs so while we played better we also ran into some favorable situations as well. I don’t consider Tulsa’s QB a runner.

        • Jon Nakata says:

          “supposed to be dual threat” in Tennessee’s case. Injuries aside, I really want to believe that the plan all year was to prepare for Boykin and Russel

    • William Ryan says:

      Can’t sit back and let him dictate the pace we must attack with bond and striker and keep him in the pocket guessing.

    • Rick says:

      My understanding is they play good on good, tues. and wed., that’s got to help the D watching Baker do his thing twice a week. Can’t be much better prep.

  • Dustin says:

    Can you imagine the scenario if Arkansas doesn’t pull off the miracle in Oxford? Bama wouldn’t have even played in the sec championship game.

  • Daddy R says:

    Bob on the phone now..

  • Cory Reedy says:

    #KEEPDOUBTINGUS

  • Brien Brown says:

    Herbie on our side

  • SoonerinLondon says:

    Not sure if this is in a post below, but Fowler called the Bama game “the nightcap”, so maybe he knows the Orange will be the afternoon game?

    • Cory Reedy says:

      We are the late game. 7 pm

      • SoonerinLondon says:

        Has it been announced? Wasn’t supposed to be announced until 3:00 Eastern today.

        • Cory Reedy says:

          I saw it on a screenshot of a betting line out of Vegas. ? Maybe it’s wrong?

          • SoonerinLondon says:

            I don’t think the time is set, yet. I think Fowler may have let the cat out of the bag that the Cotton Bowl will be the late game.

            Hope so. Get some sunshine in Miami and won’t have to wait all day to play. Also, would get to have a little New Year’s eve action that night.

  • Daddy R says:

    No love at all for Baker in this Heisman discussion on espn right now.. Not even really bringing him up.. Really hurt Baker’s chances when we didnt play yesterday. Ah well, Bigger fish to fry!

  • Austin says:

    David Pollack: “I have a heisman vote so I’m not gonna say who I voted for.”

    The proceeds to all but tell us he voted for Deshaun Watson by arguing with every person on the panel why they should vote for Watson.

    • BoomerDave says:

      Under the rules of the Heisman Committee, no voter is to discuss their vote prior to the award ceremony.

      • Austin says:

        Oh I know that, but he basically did tell us who he voted for. He made a very strong argument for Watson. That was the only candidate he argued for

  • Daddy R says:

    Striker on interview now…

  • CrimsonNative says:

    I think OU wins by two touchdowns. Our D will get a couple of interceptions and the offense will have Brent wondering which direction is up.

    • William Ryan says:

      One thing I notice is that’s always been his mo is blizing his lb on 3 and long situation a nice shallow crossing route or two could take advantage of this vacated area.

  • BoomerDave says:

    Did anyone else notice that although Reece Davis kept saying that they had no idea what the rankings were before they were shown to us, that every time they showed the blank semi-final bracket that the 1 vs 4 game was shown to be the Orange Bowl and the 2 vs 3 game, the Cotton.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Herbie is the only thing keeping this “debate” credible

  • Jon Nakata says:

    Hey. Did I ever tell you guys how much I hate Orange…

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Interesting talk surrounding scheduling to position yourself for success in the playoff system. We don’t have that problem next year, arguably the most difficult non conference schedule of anyone

  • Daddy R says:

    HA, now that was funny. Rece just shared a story of a player he knew that played at Stanford, under Bill Walsh, and they were playing “one of the good Oklahoma teams (as Rece put it),” and they were getting “Steam-rolled.” Walsh went into halftime and the stanford players were expecting him to be pissed and rah-rah, and instead he says, “gentlemen, protect yourself out there.” Cuz they were getting killed. Lol

    • Jon Nakata says:

      yeah I am gonna remember that quote.

    • hOUligan says:

      Must have been the ’09 Sun Bowl? Recall they said Gerhart was beat up and very sore after that pounding. Was a fairly close game, though.

      • Daddy R says:

        No, this must have been back in the 70’s, I think that’s when Bill Walsh coached there. He is a legendary coach, who went on to coach the 49ers in the 80’s with Montana and Rice.

      • Rene Goupillaud says:

        Nope. Thomas Lotts’s 1979 Sooners. Lott threw 2 TD passes in that game.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Are Saban’s back molars glued together?

  • hOUligan says:

    Just as I figured and hoped. I wanted OU to face Clemson and the sec champ….did not care what order. This team should be totally focused after last years’ beat down and ready to avenge that embarrassment. Then it’s OU vs ‘All World’ Saban and the Tide and, again, few will give OU any chance. It’s all set up as it should be. Come get you some!!! BOOMER!!!

    • Mike Reed says:

      I’m not convinced Bama will beat Michigan State.

      • hOUligan says:

        Agree….just hoping Bob and OU get to notch #8 against Saban while Finebalm chokes on a turkey salad sandwich and another helping of crow.

      • Walter Sobcek says:

        Sparty has to maintain time of possession and keep Bama from being able to run Henry 40 times like they did against Florida. If MSU defense is still reasonably fresh in the 4th quarter, they can pull out a win.

    • JB says:

      We’ll face the ACC champ. If we win that game, we’ll face the Big 10 champ. Bama is not getting past Michigan State.

  • Daddy R says:

    Pollack is a douche. He is saying NO ONE will pick MSU over Bama. I will. MSU over Bama. There, I picked them. Score? 24-21.

    • Jon Nakata says:

      honestly…. I think the defenses are even, but if Cook can get healthy MSU has a much better offense all around.

    • Recondo says:

      I am pretty confident Bama is the worst team of the 4.

    • CKill1 says:

      I hope you’re right, but I’m thinking Bama by a TD or more. Only place MSU is deep at all is RB and O-line. The only reason this is close at all is that both Ds are salty. 21-10, Alabama.

    • JB says:

      Agreed. MSU may have the best D in the country. If Ezekiel Elliott struggled to run against them, I think Derrick Henry will struggle as well.

  • SoonerinLondon says:

    Cotton Bowl 8:00pm, Orange Bowl 4:00pm.

  • Walter Sobcek says:

    I hope lots of Sooner fans are able to make the trip to Miami. Would have had a huge contigent in Dallas – but hopefully there will be a sea of crimson in Orange Bowl.

    • JB says:

      Did you notice on Derrick Henry’s last rushing TD that he and his forehead crossed the goal line and his hairline crossed the goal line 7.2 seconds later?

    • William Ryan says:

      My favorite player since he came to Norman… our heart and soul on defence and at press conferences as well.

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  • Zack says:

    So are we wearing the matte finish helmets or not?

  • JD says:

    Pokey Sugar

    • Walter Sobcek says:

      Good. Now another Big 12 team gets a turn at whipping Ole Miss.

      • hOUligan says:

        As hard as it is, I will be pulling for OUr snot-nosed little cousins to whup the tar outa the Rebs.

        • Walter Sobcek says:

          Me too. It’s fun to see your little brother beat up a “supposed” tough guy.

        • SoonerfanTU says:

          Agreed. Not something I’ve really ever done, but I’d like to see the Big 12 make a statement this bowl season.

    • Recondo says:

      Good. Oklahoma schools dominate the conference. Let’s see if we can both beat SEC schools this bowl season.

      • Walter Sobcek says:

        After what TCU did to them last year, Ole Miss is probably wishing they didn’t have to face another Big 12 team.

        • OUhound says:

          Naaaaa. That’s like saying we don’t want to face Clemson after they laid it to us last year.

          • Walter Sobcek says:

            Yeah, but we’re OU. They’re Ole Miss. We invented winning. They invented…not winning.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Anyone seen any chatter from recruits on Twitter?

  • Hunter Frantz says:

    You think maybe they moved us back so the championship will feature contrasting styles?

    • Daddy R says:

      Something I mentioned earlier. Power vs spread in the finals, either way it works out. Not sure they moved us back just for this, but interesting nonetheless.

    • hOUligan says:

      Some twit talking head, think it was Fox wrap-up show, made some asinine comment about the spread being dead and winning with power running games and defense. Didn’t catch the guys name. Likely sec shill.

      • Recondo says:

        We do power run and strong D pretty good ourselves.

      • Hunter Frantz says:

        Lol what they don’t realize is both OU and Clemson spread it but they run the ball as good as anyone. Both teams with 1,000 yard rushers. We’re not the spread Mike Leach is. Averaging 300 rush yards per game since Texas lol

      • Hunter Frantz says:

        No gimmick runs either. Straight pound and ground.

      • William Ryan says:

        What makes us dangerous is we found a way to insert a Power running game in our form of the spread. Power, speed, and space what a deadly combo..

        • Bill Holder says:

          We are an Air Raid on steroids.

        • Jon Nakata says:

          and we can run a 2back set with a dual threat QB… and our backs make good receivers…

          • hOUligan says:

            That’s the real kicker with LR and this offense. OU can run your arse over or split those backs out and go empty on any given down with no personnel change. And don’t forget Flowers.

    • Recondo says:

      I don’t think there is any conspiracy to it. MSU beat a top team and moved up. It’s very consistent with how the committee handled rankings all season. Doesn’t mean we have to agree with it (I think we are #2) but we have to recognize it’s logically consistent.

    • William Ryan says:

      We was either going to be 3 or 4 causing the committee to insert us as the “4th” best team alas denied us a virtual home game by default.

    • hOUligan says:

      That’s the storyline they would like. Sec power vs puny little spread muscles. OU gonna pump you up!!!

      • Hunter Frantz says:

        Lol I read somewhere Bama fans where claiming tht Perine couldn’t handle a heavy load of carries. I’m just thinking of last year and laughing at them.

        • hOUligan says:

          Land o goshun I’m sure hoping it’s a Optimus Perine vs Henry final. Plus OU got Striker and Shake n Bake. I SO want to see that.

          • Hunter Frantz says:

            Oh I’m with you there. One thing Bama doesn’t have anymore that they had in 2013 is a good QB and Cooper. We really match up well with them. I also heard commentators and analysts say that Bama isn’t affected by spread and up tempo teams after they played Florida…Florida! Worst offense in their conference the past 4 games.

          • hOUligan says:

            Yea. This is a much better, more complete OU team: better at every position group. Shep, Mixon, better on oline at this point… deep in the D front 7. DBs are seasoned, now. This team is ready to go on a final run for the crystal. I’ve got chills!!!

          • Hunter Frantz says:

            Me too…ME TOO

          • JD says:

            Lol they are clueless..how did they match up against Ole Miss

          • William Ryan says:

            Sometimes even the sunshine has to shine on a dog’s ass from time to time.

          • JD says:

            yeah when he’s looking in the rabbit hole

          • William Ryan says:

            Need to sign em up to complete head to head in stone cold Steve Austin skull buster…

  • RBear says:

    When do they announce the Heisman invitations, tomorrow?

    • William Ryan says:

      Glad he’s finally got his priority’s inline.

      • BoomerDave says:

        What is that supposed to mean?? Are you inferring that he did something wrong when he took part of his day to interview for a much, much, much better job? Oh, BTW, he did so with his boss’ full blessing!

        • Waters says:

          Link?

        • William Ryan says:

          Just busting his balls a little.. glad he’s got his nose back in the game 100%.

          • BoomerDave says:

            Personally, I don’t think he or anyone on the team or staff, has every not had their nose 100% in the game, at least since the Texas debacle. This staff seems to be on a mission!

          • William Ryan says:

            They have their eye on the prize for sure!

          • Waters says:

            Wouldn’t be true if he was offered HC.

          • BoomerDave says:

            He wasn’t offered the job, and was never gonna be offered the job. He is what he is. A 32 year old assistant with ZERO HC experience and with just 2-3 years experience as a OC. No AD at a big time school would put his job on the line by take no such a risk. That is why Clemson hired a recycled coach like Muschamp.

          • William Ryan says:

            we are on the same team expecting simular results…

          • Waters says:

            I agree!

          • SoonerfanTU says:

            I disagree. He obviously wasn’t the number 1 choice, but you don’t bring a guy in to interview if you have zero interest in him. Riley just wasn’t first on their list. Or second. Or probably third. Is the SC job probably a little too big for him at this time? Probably. But I could have seen them taking a chance with him as well.

            People thought the OU job was probably too big for Bob when he was hired as well.

          • Rene Goupillaud says:

            Did Dabo get fired?

            Kirby Smart waited 7 years. Now he has a great job. Bob waited too. Patience has great value.

          • brainpimp says:

            Why is this troll still here?

      • JB says:

        His priorities were never out of line, so all is well.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Venables can throw last years game plan out the window, be interesting to see how good he is in the biggest game of his career so far at Clemson

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Inferred recently, if you’re Knight do you transfer?

    • William Ryan says:

      He can’t he’s our best cheerleader we need his etusiasm on the sideline.

    • akryan says:

      Couldn’t blame him if he did, but unless he’s graduating this year, it’d cost him an entire year of eligibility and he’s already a jr. I’m guessing he sticks it out.

    • BoomerDave says:

      He could only transfer if he can graduate. He’s used up his redshirt year and has already played 3 years.

      • Zack says:

        Stoops can waive that restriction if he wants to.

        • BoomerDave says:

          Only the NCAA can waive it. Stoops can fully release him, but the NCAA doesn’t have to grant him the waiver, and probably wouldn’t in this case.

    • rphokc says:

      more interested to see what ct does

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      That is REALLY hard to say. Competitive fire would say yes. Love of OU and teammates would say no. Probably depends what he wants to do after college football.

      I’ll guess he stays, mostly b/c he got this shot as starter, so it’s not like he’ll always wonder “what if”.

    • Soonerlaw6 says:

      I’d put the odds of him transferring at about 1%. He is comfortable where he’s at, in this back-up role. And in a way that tells you everything you need to know about him.

  • leatherneck1061 says:

    I seem to remember someone on here saying they heard Bama fans claiming OU would lose if we play Bama because we haven’t seen a real qb all season. Lol….haven’t been able to forget that little gem ever since. Just goes to show that those in the grip of delusion are always the last to find out.

    • William Ryan says:

      They don’t know the difference between a game manager and a “real” qb.

      • leatherneck1061 says:

        True. But frankly it’s worse than that. QB play in the SEC this year is absolutely abysmal. It’s easily the worst of all P5 conferences.

        • William Ryan says:

          At one point the Florida qb was 7-20 120 yards zero 3rd down conversions.. what a joke..

    • William Ryan says:

      We go up against one everyday in practice..

    • Mizuno44 says:

      Is Alabama referring to their guy who hands the ball off to Henry? That position was renamed Dispenserback

    • Gurry says:

      What’s ridiculous and pisses me off is that these talking heads only talk about OU playing backups in the big games, but Clemson played backups in their only 2 “good wins” vs FSU and ND, and Bama played backups in aTm and FU. Why the inconsistency!?

      • JDSooner says:

        Since David Pollack is the one leading that charge, he might want to go back and check his prediction about the Baylor/OU game when he said that Baylor would beat OU with a backup…WTH?

        • blaster1371 says:

          I think David Pollack sniffs glue during commercial breaks or he caught a bad case of the stupids over the two years he worked Thursday night football with Jesse Palmer (I think that’s his name) .

        • William Ryan says:

          Dude is a talking head that’s only job is to generate ratings…

        • William Ryan says:

          Dude is a talking head that’s only job is to generate ratings…

      • blaster1371 says:

        Sic ’em Gurry, you’re making a good point!

  • leatherneck1061 says:

    In fact it’s kinda cute now thinking about the talking heads last season (2014) predicting Bama as preseason #1 because Jake Coker was supposedly gonna come in and be such a difference maker after he lost the starting position at FSU. Such silly guys.

    • BoomerDave says:

      I don’t get all the criticism of Coker. He’s a very good D-1 QB. Not great, but very good. Or in other words, not Baker Mayfield, but better than Trevor Knight.

      • blaster1371 says:

        I’d describe Coker as “serviceable”. Pretty steady Eddie but won’t torch any opposing defense.

      • leatherneck1061 says:

        He’s adequate, but he’s not a guy who’s going to take the team on his back and make the offense go. Without Henry, that offense is impotent. His own OC clearly believes this also.

      • brainpimp says:

        We have different definitions of very good, you and I.

  • Glocal Sooner says:

    Sooner fans,
    I have some good news for you if you’re superstitious. We’ll be at Disneyland Paris when OU plays Clemson in the Orange Bowl. The last time we were at Disneyland Paris and OU was playing, we stomped Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. ‪#‎BoomerSooner

    • rphokc says:

      well, have fun but be aware of your surroundings

      • Glocal Sooner says:

        Definitely. Lived in Paris for 3 years. Been in London for about 5 years now. Crazy times.

        • rphokc says:

          well, an interesting life, congrats……….listened to a variety of experts talk about threats to england ……..hang in there

    • blaster1371 says:

      Dang it! I was in Hawaii when OU stomped Alabama. “Honey! Change in plans…… We goin’ to the islands to stir up some good mojo!”

    • SoonerinLondon says:

      Gotta ride that Tower of Terror. Best ride at Disney.

      The Ratatouille ride is pretty amazing the way it moves randomly, like a rat scurrying, every time you ride it.

      Do the Temple of Doom…good but way too short.

      And, of course, Rockin’ Roller Coaster is super…0-70 in about 2 seconds.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Mayfield spoke a lot about “believing in the system” earlier in the season when things weren’t quite clicking, safe to say these guys know “they are the system” now

  • Recondo says:

    ESPN reporting Clemson’s star WR won’t play against OU. You know, the one who was lost for the season way back in week 1. They are really reaching for an angle.

    • Martin says:

      Didn’t the Clemson safety get DQ’d for targeting last night? He’ll have to sit out the first half of the next game. right?

      • SoonerfanTU says:

        Not if that was during the first half, which I believe it was.

        • EasTex says:

          It was.

        • John Garner says:

          You’re saying he won’t have to sit out? Or he will, but the whole game?

          • SoonerfanTU says:

            I’m under the impression that if he is ejected during the 1st half, he only has to sit the rest of the 1st half and the 2nd half of that game. If it’s during the 2nd half, you have to sit the remainder of the 2nd half and the 1st half of the next game. I could be wrong, but I think that is how it works.

          • John Garner says:

            Thanks. That makes sense.

      • Mike Reed says:

        He was ejected about 2 minutes before halftime. He’ll play against us.

  • Okie403 says:

    BOOMER! Here come the Sooners. I so wanna go to Miami for the game. I’d drive just to drive thru Tuscaloosa just to kick Finebaum in the cods! Btw, not like we don’t know way around Miami and Glendale!!

    Anyway. Real reason for post…would you rather had 3 weeks to prep for Clemsons Off or Bama Def? Then 10 days to prep for the other….

    • Bob Edwards says:

      Finebaum is in Birmingham, just so you don’t miss him.

    • Waters says:

      I thought the same. Glad we have more time to defense the Clemson Offense.
      Alabama is not that difficult if you have the players and we do.

    • Kevin Burger says:

      I think it works out well. 3 weeks to prep for the reckoning, and 10 days for bama/msu to totally revamp their defense.

    • John Garner says:

      First Clemson, then Bama. I like that chronology better because then Bama only has 10 days to prepare for us. With LR running the offense that will be a problem. Like prepping for a Wishbone team. Saban’s Bama teams have always had a problem with uptempo spread teams that have an athlete at QB.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    My guess would be every team is happy about their matchup with the exception of Clemson

    • akryan says:

      I wouldn’t say that. With the beating they gave us last year, I bet they’re pretty confident getting us in the first round.

      • Mizuno44 says:

        They played our 8-4 team with the Heupel/Knight threat. Night and day difference in last years team and this year, both sides of the ball.

        • akryan says:

          I agree, but I’m sure that they’re still confident. They had about the same record last year as we did. They’re a better team than they were last year too. Really, any team that is in the playoffs is going to be full of confidence and chomping at the bit for the competition. They won’t shrink from the challenge, and I wouldn’t want them to. It should be a great game.

        • akryan says:

          I agree, but I’m sure that they’re still confident. They had about the same record last year as we did. They’re a better team than they were last year too. Really, any team that is in the playoffs is going to be full of confidence and chomping at the bit for the competition. They won’t shrink from the challenge, and I wouldn’t want them to. It should be a great game.

      • Mizuno44 says:

        They played our 8-4 team with the Heupel/Knight threat. Night and day difference in last years team and this year, both sides of the ball.

    • William Ryan says:

      More than any just happy to be here in position to bring home that elusive #8

  • akryan says:

    One thing we can’t do, is freak out the first time they score. OU won’t just shut down Clemson. Their offense is too good. I think that we’ll need to score about 40 to win. Red zone defense is going to be huge.

    • William Ryan says:

      We are battle hardend and chomping at the bit for redemption.

    • William Ryan says:

      We earned our stripes in Knoxville and our confidence was purged in iron with the run we been on.

      • akryan says:

        They’ve won some close ones too and I’m sure they’re just as confident. All I’m saying is that everyone whom seem to think that Clemson is going to be afraid of us or a pushover is mistaken. Clemson is pretty damn good team, with a really good QB. OU better bring their best.

    • William Ryan says:

      We earned our stripes in Knoxville and our confidence was purged in iron with the run we been on.

    • rainydaze114 says:

      It doesn’t matter what we do… the team will be ready though.

      • akryan says:

        that’s what i meant. I meant the OU players and coaches can’t freak out the first time Clemson scores or even gets a couple of unanswered scores. They just need to stick to the game plan, making adjustments as needed. If we’re down by 10 in the third we can’t abandon the run game for instance.

        • rainydaze114 says:

          That hasn’t really happened since the Texas game… I’d be surprised if they started now.

        • Mizuno44 says:

          We were down 14 in the 4th, hostile environment at Tennessee, that turned out okay

        • William Ryan says:

          When we was down 17-0 first quarter I was freaking out, my neigh66bors was to, my dog couldn’t stand it anymore and retired to the dog house…. but #6 won over sooner nation in one night and walked off a sooner legend. “I will never quit”

    • Bob Bender says:

      2015 Clemson Tigers Football Schedule

      Record: 13-0, 8-0 (ACC)

      Date

      Opponent
      Time/TV
      Tickets

      Saturday
      Sep. 5

      Wofford Terriers

      Memorial Stadium, Clemson, SC
      Won 49-10

      Saturday
      Sep. 12

      Appalachian State Mountaineers

      Memorial Stadium, Clemson, SC
      Won 41-10

      Thursday

      Sep. 17

      at Louisville Cardinals

      Papa John’s Cardinal Stadium, Louisville, KY
      Won 20-17

      Saturday
      Sep. 26

      Open Date

      Saturday
      Oct. 3

      Notre Dame Fighting Irish

      Memorial Stadium, Clemson, SC
      Won 24-22

      Saturday
      Oct. 10

      Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets

      Memorial Stadium, Clemson, SC
      Won 43-24

      Saturday
      Oct. 17

      Boston College Eagles (HC)

      Memorial Stadium, Clemson, SC
      Won 34-17

      Saturday
      Oct. 24

      at Miami (FL) Hurricanes

      Sun Life Stadium, Miami Gardens, FL
      Won 58-0

      Saturday
      Oct. 31

      at NC State Wolfpack

      Carter-Finley Stadium, Raleigh, NC
      Won 56-41

      Saturday
      Nov. 7

      Florida State Seminoles

      Memorial Stadium, Clemson, SC
      Won 23-13

      Saturday
      Nov. 14

      at Syracuse Orange

      Carrier Dome, Syracuse, NY
      Won 37-27

      Saturday
      Nov. 21

      Wake Forest Demon Deacons

      Memorial Stadium, Clemson, SC
      Won 33-13

      Saturday
      Nov. 28

      at South Carolina Gamecocks

      Williams-Brice Stadium, Columbia, SC
      Won 37-32

      2015 ACC Championship Game

      Saturday
      Dec. 5

      North Carolina Tar Heels

      Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte, NC
      Won 45-37

      2015 Capital One Orange Bowl

      Thursday

      Dec. 31

      Oklahoma Sooners

      Sun Life Stadium, Miami Gardens, FL
      4:00pm ET

      ESPN

  • Waters says:

    LR can be as aggressive as he wants next year to secure a HC position and no one will fault him. This year I do. Others disagree but it needs to be said.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      You are assuming facts that cannot be known. Bring it up once? Fine. To continue bringing up something that cannot be proven is just silly.

    • William Ryan says:

      Let’s focus on the task at hand…

  • blaster1371 says:

    Venebles is pretty familiar with the basic style of OU’s defense since he schemed against it in the Big 12. Not sure Clemson has the athlete on defense they did last year. It’s an intriguing match up to say the least.

    • akryan says:

      Both teams have a lot of pretty smart people that are going to pour over every play that the other team has run this year. With two weeks to prep, no one has an excuse not to come in with a good game plan.

    • Mizuno44 says:

      We’re pretty familiar with Venables tendencies as well

    • DCinAZ says:

      Venables always struggled with air-raid offenses while at OU. He never won a game in Lubbock. Last year we were one dimensional and that was right up his alley.

      • Soonerlaw6 says:

        One dimensional in what sense? I believe we actually passed more than we rushed, but neither were effective. Remember though that we had FIVE turnovers. FIVE. It’s a totally different game without 3 interceptions and 2 fumbles. Not something we should have to worry about this year.

      • D Hunter Sanchez says:

        I think you are correct, but in 08′ BV held Tech to 21. In 07 got torched. It would be interesting to go back and watched how he schemed against air raid offenses other than Tech. I mean, he has to worry about Mayfield, Perine/Mixon, Shep, Neal and Westbrook…

  • rainydaze114 says:

    On paper, OU and Clemson are the two most complete teams in the nation. Heisman caliber QBs and stout Ds are going to make for a helluva football game. Far and away the best matchup of the bowl season. I’m freaking pumped for this game.

    • Recondo says:

      Agree these are the two best. Get them out of the way before lining up against lesser competition.

  • BoomerDave says:

    I may be on an island with my thinking about this, but I thought Dabo Sweeney was a complete a-hole with how he berated his punter last night. I can understand getting on him initially, but then to yell at him again when UNC scored and then to belittle him further during his halftime interview with reporter went way too far.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      I disagree. Maybe he didn’t need to make the comment at halftime, but I had no problem other than that. People forget, Bob, Mike, Brent, and even Mangino used to rip players like that during games all the time those first few years they were at OU. Nobody had a problem with that.

      • Brien Brown says:

        Yea but they also realized well Bob did that wasn’t a good thing hence Mike being upstairs now. Only time a player gets ripped now is for a stupid penalty or unsportsmanlike type deal. Just saying there is a time and place for it all.

      • Soonerlaw6 says:

        Agree – the only part I could have done without was the halftime comment. But we’re not talking about botched execution. We’re talking about deliberately going off script on something where he hadn’t been given leeway to do so. I think his reaction was justified.

      • D Hunter Sanchez says:

        It’s called a pussification of America.

    • Mizuno44 says:

      Sweeney had a great regular season, but he’s in over his head now. We get off to a good start and get a lead, and disrupt their offense, he’s going to be yelling at everyone.

      • William Ryan says:

        I thought he was going to choke slam that player that got a personal foul on special teams looked eariee simular to some antics we seen last year on our sideline.

        • Mizuno44 says:

          He definitely has some grizzly within, glad none of our coaches have ever been YouTubed dancing in the locker room

  • Brien Brown says:

    Difference in last year to this year is night and day. Clemson may be cocky and think ok bring them on same team, not so fast. LR not JH, a healthy 100% Shepard, Mayfield not Knight, Perine and Mixon, a D that fly’s to the ball, guys that hold each other accountable instead of just blaming each other. Coach V better prepare for other than just a rushing attack. Clemson will be tough but feel we have seen tough attacking Ds they will watch TCU film and see what we didn’t do right, we faced a good secondary in Tennessee and yes that was early on, think we see a better rb in practice daily but their rb is a product of their QBs success. They don’t have a true 1 wr by what I have seen but Watson does spread ball around well but think he calls his own number too much. Their o hasn’t seen a better front 7 or perhaps as fast as secondary as we have. Just a few thoughts on my part.

  • Scott says:

    Thank God I got 1 playoff team right. I had Ohio St , LSU , Georgia Tech , and of course Oklahoma.

  • EasTex says:

    So now we wait…*sigh*

  • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

    I bet if we beat them, Dabo will cry on camera. Please, dear Sooners. Make Dabo cry on camera.

    • William Ryan says:

      A beat down of epic proportions would fit suite, much in the way West Virginia did to them.

      • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

        One so epic that it makes for a drunkard’s ballad: “BYOTears”. Known alternatively as “The Night Dabo Cried Like a Little Schoolgirl with Ripped Stockings”.

    • Scott says:

      Breaking News in Clemson , after the horrible loss to The University of Oklahoma the tombstone that Dabo Swinney planted in death valley after the Russell Athletic is Missing. Please call 1-800-Clemsoning if you have any information on the missing tombstone.

      • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

        Yes! A win so one-sided that “Clemsoning” makes it into the CFB parlance for any event in which one is embarrassed after a fully year of hype and on-air, daft self-promotion. I like it, Scott.

    • blaster1371 says:

      What kind of name is “Dabo” anyways? Is he named after a Star Wars character ?

  • soonerthunder says:

    I’m sure you’ve seen this. Now I’m afraid of playing Clemson. /s

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_SAzHTW8AA7DhJ.jpg

  • Sacramento Sooner says:

    Don’t know if it’s been thrown out yet..Back to the Future Trilogy, moves from 1955, 1958, & 2015. Oklahoma has National Championships in 1955, 1985 & ….

    We win, on Destiny alone!

  • EasTex says:

    Had to do a search when I saw the Fiesta Bowl is sponsored by BattleFrog. Had never heard of such til now.

  • Jeremy Phillips says:

    Is TFB hearing Velus is a silent commit to Tennesse following his visit this weekend..? Apparently that is the word on Vol message boards..

    • JD says:

      I just dont understand why smh

    • Fear The Magic says:

      Could be but 247 has him as 100% to OU

      http://247sports.com/Player/Velus-Jones-Jr-79333

    • Zack says:

      And I think Tennessee just pulled an offer for one of their receiver commits. Apparently he is a grade risk. If jones wants to go to Tennessee fine by me but I sure hope some top receivers really evaluate what is going on at ou. There is a number one spot open starting next year and there isn’t anyone on campus that has that job locked up. Now maybe quick or Smallwood flip the switch but still.

  • Hotrod33 says:

    It doesn’t matter what the “experts” or the graphs, charts or records say, we go out, take care of business, we will win #8. No one giving us the benefit of being there and the committee putting us at 4 is great. No matter win or lose, this season has been fun and they accomplished a lot of stuff. I’m proud of these guys. BOOMER!!!!!!!!

  • EasTex says:

    The last time we played clemson and this time is completely different, not only for the chance to play in the championship game, but the teams themselves.
    All of clemson’s OL and DL is different from last year and so is their QB.
    Our QB last year had been out for nearly two months after a serious injury that almost left him paralyzed. Such is not the case this year with Mayfield.
    There are many OU players that remember how last season ended and found motivation for this year from that ending. For clemson they may be feeling good about themselves and think that game gives them some kind of advantage, but I think it could just as easily develop into a false confidence.
    I like this Sooner team and believe they will be ready for what comes next.

  • TDSooner says:

    So you guys want to hear about ESPN bias? #1 seed Clemson gets screw. They get the 3pm (central time) slots while #2 Alabama gets the prime time 7pm slot! While it may not matter much to some viewers, there are a lot of OU fans who works regular shift on New Year’s Eve. Why should #2 seed get prime time and not the #1 seed? Because ESPN has a financial interest in Alabama doing well. Just down right wrong! I’ll be rooting for Mich St for that one.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      I doubt that is why. It makes sense to play the game on the east coast earlier than the game in the midwest. I figured the OB would get the early start regardless of who was there. Otherwise, you start the OB at 8:15pm local time. Pretty late start.

      • SoonerfanTU says:

        And do we even know ESPN picked the time slots? That would seem odd to me. I would think the Playoff Committee and/or the bowls would decide that.

      • TDSooner says:

        I am 100% sure this is why ESPN did this. Why would they list cotton bowl and orange bowl times as 4pm (eastern) or 8pm (eastern) for both games? It allows ESPN to pick and choose the game they want!

        http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/cotton-bowl

        http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/orange-bowl

        • Zack says:

          I honestly think it has more to do with location. What I don’t understand is why the time slots are 3 and 7, instead of 6 and 9

          • Sooner Ray says:

            I would rather see 2:30 and 6:00 CT.

          • Zack says:

            I’ve got to work til 5 so I’m going to miss the game. I’m gonna talk to my boss but I highly doubt he lets me go early.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            Luckily I have nearly 6 months of built up time off so I can waste a day. Hope you can get off. You do have a DVR right?

          • Gary Robbins says:

            Yep. My schedule is pretty clear that day. Here’s hoping everybody on here can get the day off.

          • Zack says:

            Yep I will probably record the game but you can’t beat live. I have plenty of time off but I work in accounting so I gotta be there to make sure every penny is applied.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            My wife is a CFO, never gets to use all of her time off. I understand.

          • brainpimp says:

            Your boss is going to be working New Years eve till 5pm? Get a new damn job.

          • TDSooner says:

            I have been looking at the time slots since we won the big 12 championship and realize that it was listed as 4pm or 8pm for both games on the official college playoff website. If it was based strictly on locations it would have been listed as 4pm(eastern) for the Orange bowl and 8pm(eastern) for the cotton bowl. Instead the 4pm or 8pm listing for both games allow ESPN to pick and choose the team they want to “showcase”.

          • SoonerfanTU says:

            Nobody is arguing that that is how it was listed. We are aware. I don’t have an answer for you, but I think it’s silly to jump to the conclusion you did. OU fans are so freakin’ sensitive about this stuff. Truth is, we won’t know for a few more years. I was going to look at last year, but I’m guessing the Rose Bowl was locked into a certain time slot. We’ll have to wait and see how it is handled the next two years. But I for one never expected the OB to be the late kickoff.

          • Zack says:

            Well there’s not really a reason to think otherwise. They have a contract with the sec currently and they’re are going to try to land the big 10 network when their deal (with cbs I think) runs out.

          • BoomerDave says:

            6 and 9? Games nowadays take 3 and a half hours. Games of this magnitude demand a post-game. You need 4 hours in between the games.

        • BoomerDave says:

          So what? They picked the Alabama/MSU game for prime time. I would too if I were a TV exec. it’s all about the number of TV sets. Let’s stop with the whole conspiracy theory crap.

          • TDSooner says:

            Chill dude. You just agree with my point. Just stating a fact that there is obviously a bias for ESPN to pick bama for prime time regardless of seeding, not a conspiracy theory.

    • EasTex says:

      Not buying it.
      Personally, you will never see me in Miami…period. That city, near or after midnight? I will fear for all Sooner fans that go there, but at least they will get out of the stadium at an earlier time.

  • Cush Creekmont says:

    If my memory is correct (good odds, but not a sure bet now days), this coming Orange Bowl victory will be # 20 for the Sooners. A nice number to show Fla recruits just how OU has ruled South Florida.

  • Rick says:

    I know it was discussed some earlier in the day, but I find it interesting that OU is favored by 2.5 over Clemson, and Bama is a whopping 9 point favorite over MSU.

    • William Ryan says:

      Bama will be lucky to get to 9 against that tough Msu defence that prides it self on shutting down opposing offenses run game.

      • Rick says:

        That was the way I was thinking, Bama is too predictable. The only question in my mind is how many carries will Henry get. I see some serious gamblers taking the points and MSU.

  • Brien Brown says:

    Anyone know anything about this Parnell Motley kid a WR from DC crystal ball projection for OU today shows he is committed to Maryland but seems 247 knows something we dont

  • Mizuno44 says:

    I’m not a huge “star” ranking guy, but who was the last four or five star receiver we’ve landed?

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    From ESPN:
    Big 12’s deregulation effort now ‘less certain’ after Big Ten amendment
    Big Ten Commish is trying to force us to have two divisions in order to have a legitimate championship game!

  • Brien Brown says:

    As much as I liked the 2012 and 2013 classes on paper they where a little under whelming once you break it down, don’t get me wrong some great players but overall I can’t think that 2/3rds of them did much in their careers.

    • Brien Brown says:

      The 2014 and 2015 classes have been special tho!

    • Zack says:

      The problem with 2012 is that it followed 2011 which was a terrible class. 2012 had some good players but our top 2 recruits never made an impact in metoyer and Williams.

      Edit: sorry Williams was part of the 2011 dreaded class, technically metoyer was too but he went to one year of prep school.

    • akryan says:

      2/3 of every class don’t pan out though. There are guys in this class that we’ll be excited about that won’t ever make a contribution, and guys that aren’t heralded that will be all-stars. Peterson was a 5 star RB and he lived up to it. Calhoun was a 5 star RB and he ended up playing D-2. It’s not exactly a crap shoot, but it’s not an exact science either.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    ESPN ADAM RITTENBERG perdiction: College Football Playoff National Championship Presented by AT&T: Alabama vs. Oklahoma(Jan. 11, 8:30 p.m., ESPN)
    Alabama won’t have any excuses not to get up for this one, while Bob Stoops can scar the SEC again. Quarterback play proves to be the difference as Mayfield and Sterling Shepard connect in the final minute. Oklahoma 26, Alabama 24

  • STL Sooner says:

    Great home visit in the 334 tonight. I feel a Boom coming soon. He has that #OUDNA— CaleGundy (@OU_CoachGundy) December 7, 2015

  • soonermusic says:

    I think playing Clemson first will work out best for OU. While I’m not crazy about giving Venables the extra time to prepare for OU’s offense, I’m stoked about Mike and Bob and Riley et al having extra time to prep for Clemson on both sides of the ball. No doubt they are the most dangerous rival, imho. No point in worrying too much about Bama, they might end up having their hands full with Mich St. Especially if Conner Cook’s shoulder heals up.

    I feel like our coaches have been on a mission and having the extra time to prep for Clemson is gonna pay off. They will, deservedly, have our full attention. Should be fun.

    Next, hate to say it, or maybe I should say “I hope I’m wrong,” but I think there’s a decent chance that Baker will be at home for the ceremony. Right or wrong, Henry is the clear front runner. McCaffery has had a ridiculous record setting season and got to show it big time in a big game on Sat, good enough that many were suggesting he might have a dark horse chance to overtake Henry. And the third guy is the QB of the undefeated number one team. Hard to see the voters leaving any of those guys home.

    Finally, I’m thrilled about the start time the game. I was afraid I wouldn’t get to see it until Nyrs. night, the next day, but now it looks like I will be in my rightful place on the couch as I watch us dismantle Clemson! Yay!

  • Recondo says:

    Alamo Bowl should be good. Horny Toads are mightier than Donald Ducks.

  • blaster1371 says:

    Holy mole!!!!!! If hall want to read some real smack talk by Clemson fans go to SB nations Clemson. They think this is the same team as last year except for Mayfield. They are convinced OU has not played a defense as tough as any in the ACC and so on. They pretty much think they will slam OU in the Orange Bowl. Not a shred of respect given to OU.

    • STL Sooner says:

      Copy and paste some here for fun

    • William Ryan says:

      Just ask Baylor TCU or ok state if we’re the same team from last year…

    • Recondo says:

      Well, for a fanbase that probably doesn’t watch much Big12 ball and given last year’s game, they should feel confident. We know better and the stats on both sides of the ball, plus our schedule supports a different outcome.

    • akryan says:

      Lots of people on here and other sooner sites are basically saying the same thing about us over them. Fanbases are less rational than coaches and players. I doubt that the people that matter on either side are taking their opponent lightly.

      • EasTex says:

        Last year’s meeting has nothing in common with this year’s other than some of the same coaches/players and the school names.
        Looking at their schedule and results, I am truly baffled as to how they came to be number one.

        • blaster1371 says:

          Not even the same coaches, a at least as OU goes. I am pretty impressed by their play. I watched them off and on again this season. “Fast” comes to mind when I think of their defense. They are much like TCU with Boykin being similar to Watson.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            Even if we had the same players and coaches it was the RA bowl and we didn’t want to be there. The players had also completely quit on Mike. This would be a different “team” even with the same players, chemistry is better for coaches and players.

          • CKill1 says:

            Wow. That^ sounds just like Alabama’s crummy excuse when we beat them 2 years ago.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            Lol, I knew it would sound that way but we did quit playing ball IMO.

          • Fear The Magic says:

            Youre 100% right Ray we did quit last year.
            I expect to see a very motivated eye of the tiger focused team this year with better and more experienced talent and much better coaching.
            I only hope Clemson is half expecting last years team. They’re in for a rude awakening if so.

          • brainpimp says:

            NO, you missed the part about the team quitting on mike.

          • CKill1 says:

            No I didn’t. “…it was the RA bowl and we didn’t want to be there.” This is the comment I referred to and it sounds EXACTLY like what Alabama said after we whooped them. We all said that was weak(and it was), and it’s a poor choice of an excuse for us as well. We shouldn’t ever be that team.

          • EasTex says:

            I did say “some of the same coaches.”
            I agree they have some good athletes, but look at the scores of their games. Sure they won them all, but not very impressive wins IMHO.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      They have every right to be cocky. OU fans think we’ll whip Bama b/c we did 2 years ago. Clemson kicked our tail less than 12 months ago. OU fans know we’re better this time around. I really don’t care if Clemson or their fans know right now or not.

      • Recondo says:

        To be fair, I think we can beat Bama (by double digits) because their offense runs about two plays and our offensecan attack from anywhere on the field. Two years ago is just a pleasant memory.

        • EasTex says:

          Nobody hates to see the HUNH more than bama. Glad they won’t have a month to get ready for it.

    • EasTex says:

      I hope their team has the same level of false confidence.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      Don’t want respect before the game, hope their players are like their message board fans.

    • EasTex says:

      I don’t really know where clemson is located, other than in SC. I certainly don’t care what the delusional part of their fan base has to say.

      • blaster1371 says:

        They are much more like OU than they think. Both have crapped thier pants in bowl games and are looking for some redemption. I think this is the most even matchup of all the major bowl games.

        • EasTex says:

          I think both semis are evenly matched. There will be significant disparity between the teams in the championship game.
          I don’t really view them as being similar to OU, but they will be a tougher match because of their athleticism than the other two teams.

      • Steve Cooke says:

        It’s right where the red pin is at.

    • Mizuno44 says:

      All the more reason to ruin the last day of the year for them, and within a few hours have them start 2016 just as crappy in the aftermath

    • Austin says:

      And that my friend is how many Clemson fans act. My dad and I have already received messages like “we comin for you” and “yall better hope you’re better than last year.” For a team that has no tradition(I mean come on, they had a pizza party today because they went undefeated and won the ACC! Lol) they sure do talk a lot of trash. It’s time for Ou to bring them back to reality and show them who invented winning championships!

    • SoonerinLondon says:

      He may be right that we haven’t played a defense, but this is definitely not last year’s team.

      I think Clemson is the best team in the country, but we might just beat them and prove to be better.

      • EasTex says:

        But as tough as any in the ACC? I don’t generally associate great defense with that conferences acronym.

      • brainpimp says:

        Are you on crack? we haven’t played a defense. You mean like the juggernaut ACC teams. WOW.

        • John Garner says:

          I would counter that Clemson hasn’t played too many offenses either.

        • SoonerinLondon says:

          No, I’m not actually on crack.

          Clemson will be by far the best defense OU has played.

          Don’t have a comment, or particularly care about other ACC defenses.

          • brainpimp says:

            The no defense Big 12 is a myth propagated by the SEC in order to push how great they are. It’s circular logic.

          • SoonerinLondon says:

            I guess. I’m not sure who in the Big XII played much D this year.

            Baylor had a couple of great DL. TCU generally is really good, but was fighting through injuries. OsU claimed to be good, but didn’t turn out to be. WV the same.

            The Clemson fans are suggesting that the best D we faced was at Tenn, and they shut us down. Maybe true, but we are not the same offense now that was playing Tenn.

            This will be a good test.

    • EasTex says:

      Will “Captain F-Bomb” Muschamp.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      Great picture, they hire a photographer and plan that?

    • blaster1371 says:

      He looks much better in that shirt than Riley would have. Did he notice Spurrier jumping ship before he got on it? Kinda like Urban bailing on Florida before he got there?

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      Curious who he will hire on offense. If he makes a splash hire for OC and recruits himself a decent QB, he might win some games.

    • Mizuno44 says:

      is that poster supposed to promote the new Star Wars movie as well?

    • akryan says:

      Sort of an underwhelming hire. I wonder what he said that convinces them that he’ll be better at USC than he was at UF.

  • Austin says:

    Wow, their fans are awful confident that they are just gonna blow right through us. I like it!

    http://www.tigernet.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=1527077&start=0&tstart=0

    • EasTex says:

      I encourage them to believe that. It will make the look on their face of having their heart ripped out even more enjoyable.

    • EasTex says:

      What a strange board, I don’t know how you are supposed to read it.

    • Recondo says:

      Meh, looks like our LT board. A couple of intelligent posts surrounded by idiots. I think every team has a site like that. They have put all their hopes and prayers on Watson instead of the team. I do believe whoever wins OUr semifinal game will win it all.

      • akryan says:

        Every now and then I need to go to the raging Id of LT. Then I realize why I don’t go there more often.

  • Drew says:

    So, USC cleaned out all but their LB coach on D . . . anyone we might want to poach?

    • akryan says:

      I’d have to look, but I doubt it. Was there really any area of our coaching staff that was so weak that we’d be looking at the USC coaching staff to replace ours? The only thing I can think of is ST, but even there we have a really good punter/kicker and I’m guessing the fact that we don’t return punts is Stoops’ call. Nothing about the USC ST jumped out as being great either. It’s hard to think that people would lose their jobs in a year where you make the playoffs.

      • Drew says:

        I guess I should have been more clear. I was referring to players that may think twice now with the coaching changes.

  • Andy Fox says:

    Maybe this picture wasn’t such a good idea, now. I hope it gets blown up and put in the locker room.

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