Open Post | Tuesday, Nov. 10th

Clifford Chattman: 2016 ATH and LSU commit Clifford Chattman (New Orleans, LA) made his way to Norman for an official visit last weekend, after which we had the chance to catch up to see how things went. Chattman said the trip to Norman was much better than he even expected it to be. He did add, however, that he’s still “solid” to LSU, but admitted that Oklahoma made him rethink things a little.

I got the sense he just didn’t expect to feel such a sense of closeness or as he described it, a “family” feel, at Oklahoma. Chattman’s primary recruiter is actually defensive line coach, Diron Reynolds. And Chattman told TFB the Sooners are recruiting him as an outside linebacker. Which led me to asking what position LSU is recruiting him at, to which Chattman said the LSU staff haven’t actually addressed it with him. So it sounds like the Sooners may have a clearer vision for Chattman, or at least have done a better job of articulating it.

All that said, as we’ve noted several other times previously, the OU staff will have their work cut out for them pulling an LSU commit out of Louisiana. – (Super K)

Obi Eboh: 2016 CB/S and Texas commit Obi Eboh finally made the trip to Norman this past weekend, along with his teammate and OU commit Robert Barnes. I haven’t had a chance to speak with Eboh yet, but I did speak with someone close to him and was told that Eboh, “really enjoyed himself” during the visit. Eboh’s mother and father are both professionals and their son’s education is a primary focus for them,  so Texas having such a great in-state network is a big part of the draw towards the Horns.

But my source told me that Eboh is really close to Kerry Cooks and it sounds like if a flip is going to happen, it will be about Eboh’s relationship with Cooks and less so about where the OU & UT football programs are respectively right now. – (Super K)

401 Comments

  • Brian says:

    First!

  • Brian says:

    Do we take Baylen Buchanan or Obi Eboh or both?

  • Stephen Dale says:

    many mods like Buchanan’s talent ; I like Eboh’s proximity to campus from Southlake Tx.—-doubt it will be more than one of them………..

  • Lincoln Hawk says:

    Thanks for the updates K. Have you heard anything regarding Tyree Horton?

  • Boom says:

    Chattman – K, based on his build, what weight would he carry if he were to play OLB.
    I was curious about his position but I assumed it would be a LB. Not sure if it would be ILB or OLB. ILB, he would be good in coverage but moving to OLB makes the most sense. He could cover a lot of ground in the flats and I bet he could tip a heck of a lot of passes. Especially the slants. I saw his HUDL when he committed to LSU and it was impressive.

  • j l says:

    Dickson flipped from Ut to baylor…sigh…

    • Randy says:

      Good maybe that helps land another WR.. Next 3 games will play a big part in that.

      • j l says:

        That dosent help us at all, they lead for duvernay too, and they arent even in the mix for cleveland.

        It gives them yet another track star WR..

        • SoonerfanTU says:

          They can only play 5 at a time. Maybe 6 if they put one at QB.

          • j l says:

            Coleman gone after this year, that leaves them with lee, cannon, dickson, and possibly duvernay.

            Throw in one of their RB, and that sounds like a pretty nasty lineup to me.

            we have GOT to stop their momentum.

          • Mr. Jones says:

            Good news is Coleman is gone after this year. Billings is also eligible so maybe he’ll leave as well.

          • Boom says:

            The OL except for 1 will leave as they are 5th year seniors. Oakman and since Billings hurt himself, he will leave too as he can’t risk another year not getting paid. This is Baylor’s year if they ever had one and it took a hit when their QB went out.

          • j l says:

            Their recruiting class is up to 19th, they are positioning themselves for the long run.

            Gone are the days where they cant replace graduating talent.

            You are right though, this is a huge year for them, its their best shot. Which is why we need to stop them dead in their tracks this weekend.

          • Recondo says:

            They are recruiting well but as soon as UT bounces back BU will have to go back to scooping up leftovers and I have a feeling some NCAA sanctions will hit that program in the near future.

          • j l says:

            Who knows when that will be though. UT’s next class is pretty underwhelming. Hard to catch up with less talent than they are used to.

          • DUNCANSOONER says:

            All that it takes is the next big coaching hire. Strong isn’t the guy for that, the alum/boosters know it.. Within two seasons they will have a big name I think. I predict that’s when Baylor will start their decline. If the NCAA doesn’t get them first.

          • j l says:

            I agree, i dont think charlie lasts there very long. But, they already swung and missed with the hire of strong, and their pocketbooks were open. No guarantee they will be able to snag a top flight coach for their next one.

            Lets just hope they dont convince briles to go to UT lol.

          • Fear The Magic says:

            They want Saban. Maybe eventually they’ll get him when hes like 80 years old.

          • CcrBoomer says:

            Maybe the NCAA will step up there game

          • j l says:

            haha we can only hope

        • Randy says:

          They are going to get them just that simple until Briles leaves. I wouldn’t count Baylor out yet on Cleveland. 2 months ago OU had no shot.

  • Randy says:

    We need a difference maker at OLB for ’16 class AND season. Either a FR that can arrive in Jan for spring practice or a JC (EE would be great there too) that can show up in Aug and be ready to play day 1… This and getting a Tyrie Cleveland type WR signed are huge for the actual ’16 football season. Getting 2 RBs in this class is just as big but not for the ’16 season.

  • Golfluvr13 says:

    Non football related. Any red heads on here? I’m a strawberry blond so I will celebrate National Redhead day. 🙂

    http://www.king5.com/story/news/2015/11/05/thursday-redhead-day-9-fun-facts-red-hair/75255498/

  • West Coast Sooner Fan says:

    Does OU have a shot at the recently de-committed Trayveon Williams?

  • Rashad See says:

    any word on how things change in regards to OU recruitment of RBs with recent de-commitment of Trayveon Williams from TCU?

  • ohiosoonerdevildog says:

    Happy birthday to my other brothers in the Corps. 240 years old.

    • Recondo says:

      Happy birthday to our baby brothers. Go Army!

      • ohiosoonerdevildog says:

        That’s the family where the baby brother beats up big bro right 😉

        • Recondo says:

          Ha! I was thinking more about the little bro that gets all our hand me downs and is always getting their butt pulled out of the fire by big bro. Hope you guys got to celebrate some and hope OU gives us all a nice Vet’s Day gift.

          • ohiosoonerdevildog says:

            I’ll give ya the hand me downs lol. But there’s a reason we invade and you guys occupy.

  • ohiosoonerdevildog says:

    Oh and let’s whoop some Baylor ass this weekend.

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    Seems a little slow around here. Everybody just too excited about the game to sit at a computer and talk about OU this week? lol

  • Dustin says:

    Seeing as GameDay is in Waco this weekend, I’ve been periodically checking espn to see if they’re hyping the game at all. One of the shows had an interview with Art Briles. During the interview he was asked why their OOC schedule is such a steaming pile of crap. After spitting some rhetoric, he said, “Well, we tried to get something set up in Australia, but we couldn’t get any takers.” Really? I genuinely despise everything about that worthless program. I really wish the NCAA would hit them with the SMU death sentence so we wouldn’t have to hear about them ever again.

    • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

      If this post does not receive at least 30 upvotes, then we as fellow Sooner fans have failed you, sir.

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      Well, if they get in playing such a light OOC schedule, then, the committee owes them an apology and should be seen as hypocrites for last year. What has changed from 2014-2015? Briles will still defy the committee until they put them in. It’s a total challenge from Baylor.

      • SoonerfanTU says:

        Losses is what will have changed. You go undefeated thru the Big 12, you can play the three smallest community colleges in the country for your OOC games, and you are in the Playoffs. But you better not have a single loss, or you are out.

        • SamSooner says:

          Bob Stoops is the only coach in the Big XII to regularly schedule P5 OOC teams. He was doing it before it was required. That should be rewarded forward.

          • SoonerSpock says:

            OU has in the past been rewarded for our OOC schedule. Think 2003 when we were blown out by KSU in the conference championship game 7-35 and played LSU for the championship. USC had only a 31-34 loss in 3 OT’s to Cal. OU played Alabama and UCLA out of conference with USC playing Auburn.

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    • SamSooner says:

      He stuttered and sputtered and gave some weak excuse about athletic speed between athletes to draw a comparison to his weak OOC schedule.

      I was laughing something silly.

  • Zack says:

    Need to beat Baylor and not slip up the rest of the way and then the recruiting will handle itself.

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    positional breakdown

    QB–advantage OU, just not enough seen from Stidham under pressure not to be
    RB–advantage OU, Linwood is a beast; the Sooners have 2 of the best 3 backs in the B12
    WR–advantage Baylor
    OL–advantage Baylor
    DL–advantage OU, color me in the Oakman is overrated crowd…Billings isn’t though
    LB–advantage OU
    DB–slight advantage OU
    ST–push

    • soonerthunder says:

      Good. i’d say WR BU a slight advantage, if any. Nothing I can complain about when I look at mayfield’s #s and those #s are going to WRs. Often, b/f WRs get “names” (i.e., been around a year and everyone talks and writes about them), they are considered “better” than those who have not been around.

      I don’t see BU’s DBs doing anything yet. Am I missing something? I might give OU the advantage w/o the “slight.” BU’s defense is either close to “bad” or is “bad.” W/the DL they have, I think you have to question anyone playing behind them myself.

    • SoonerinLondon says:

      We have ST this year?

      • Soonerfandave84 says:

        they sure don’t seem to block on PR and KR looks like a shell of what it was last year

    • SoonerinLondon says:

      Baylor doesn’t have WRs. They have Frisbee-catching dogs running around.

    • rainydaze114 says:

      When comparing lines, you need to do the O vs. D. If that’s the case then I think Baylor D line probably has a slight advantage over our O line. Nothing OU hasn’t already seen though.

  • Boom says:

    I want to see one of our safeties time a skinny post perfect and take out a Baylor WR with a legal hit. I want it loud and the player to be ok but not play for the remainder of the game. I want all those Baylor WRs to remember that hit when crossing the middle.
    I want to see 11 defenders around the ball on almost every tackle.

    • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

      I want Zeus Brown to wreck the OakJokeman hype train.

      • Rick says:

        He should have 2 tattoos on his torso visible after the game, one autographed “Samaje” and one “Orlando”. At least one should be a perfect impression of a size 17 EEEE cleat.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      Like the hit on Maclin by Quentin Carter in the B12 Championship game

      • Boom says:

        No, harder and even more violent. Even if we grab a WR, I want another OU defender to run through them. I want to see the ball ripped out. I want Striker to come around the end and their QB turn the other direction only to be hammered by Bond. I want aggression.

        • Soonerfandave84 says:

          unfortunately aggression these days is often met with personal fouls and ejections…unless of course you’re Shawn Oakman, then it’s ok

          • Boom says:

            Disagree. Aggression doesn’t mean illegal hits. Also, aggression causes the other team to commit the personal fouls. Aggression creates energy and swagger mojo. That will lead to dominating a team mentally. That is the goal.

        • Rick says:

          I’m remembering the hit Striker put on McCoy.

        • EasTex says:

          I don’t think we will see Bond and Striker on the field at the same time often if at all.

          • Boom says:

            Agree but for that one occasion this will be the result. Outside of that, he can turn into Charles Walker for all I care.

    • Birddawg says:

      Hard hitting safeties are nearing extinction with the “player safety” movement.
      All that open field grass/spacing, a hard hitting safety that can move sideline to sideline would be extremely valuable.
      Briles would have to change his offense. It couldnt send his WR’s deep or into the middle of the field multiple times in the game if they would be punished over and over by a hard hitting safety. Body shots all game long, the WR would start to hear footsteps.
      That’s why I really wanted Parker at safety. He covers very well and he’s got the most potential to be our best shot at a safety that can dictate the game like that.
      Thomas always seems to be tick too early or too late. The next three games, I bet we see more teams try and isolate him on one v ones. A few time I have seen offenses put it on him to make a open field tackle on running plays and he whiffed, or needed extra help to bring the guy down.

      • Sooner808 says:

        Was watching the Iowa State replay and noticed Haughton in on 3rd and longs. Any idea if he will see more time this week?

        • Birddawg says:

          Stoops bros value experience… its like gold to them.
          Big road game.
          Thomas/Parker are the starting safeties with most experience.
          I doubt we will see him.

        • EasTex says:

          Yes we will, he comes in on the Dime package and I expect we will see that package most of the game with baylor.

    • SoonerinLondon says:

      Agreed.

      What Florida did to us to start that NC game affected our WR play the next 58 minutes.

  • paganpink says:

    I absolutely don’t want to be overconfident going into this game. I started the year hoping to come out with 3 or less losses and the makings of a great team next year, so even though I feel much better then I did even only a month ago about beating Baylor- and we are absolutely capable of beating them- I don’t want to endure football PTSD again as I did after the Texsa game! That being said, I hope we kick Baylor’s arse! They haven’t played another team anything close to us and they know it. So let them sweat it out this week! I’m more worried about the D reverting to some inexplicably bad coverage then anything else. I have no idea whether Mike Stoops realizes his overly cautious approach cost us more then just going for it did at times last year. But I hope so…

    • Rick says:

      I agree, I would rather have the DB’s up tight (occasionally getting beat) than playing off and getting beat virtually every play.

      • SoonerinLondon says:

        On most Cat coverage Mike let’s the DBs pick the depth they’re most comfortable with.

        Not all that playing off it on Mike. The DB needs to be confident he can handle it.

  • Andy Fox says:

    I had the most curious experience with my 90 year old Step Father yesterday. He, an Oklahoma alumni, and fan who lived first hand the epic stretch of 47 wins in a row, and every championship team we have ever had, made the following comment; “I have not bet in 40 years but I am betting (literally) on Oklahoma over Baylor”. I asked him, so you think they will win? His response shocked me, he said “Oklahoma will wollip Baylor”. This may be up for debate but that is coming from a lot of wisdom. What do you think?

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      I like it. His gut is telling him OU is the better team, and right now they probably are overall.

    • Rick says:

      My dad lived through those years also. I’ll listen to the older guys (I can remember the later Wilkinson teams), so older.

    • SamSooner says:

      I’ve been saying this for a while. It won’t be close.

    • JB says:

      Or it could be senility setting in!

      No, in all seriousness, he may be on to something. If russell were playing, I’d give us about 0% chance. But they weren’t impressive against a bad KSU team with stidham. You may call me crazy if you like for this next statement, but I like our chances better if Austin plays over Sanchez. He’s more disciplined/takes fewer chances. Austin is shorter but he’s more athletic. And it’s obvious that Austin is a superior tackler.

      • Rick says:

        I would even disagree on the Russell point. Stidham played as well as Russell would have in the KSU game, the difference was the Baylor D not being able to stop the KSU ground game.

      • Fear The Magic says:

        I agree with you on Austin but it’ll never happen.

        • Angryinch says:

          I think the’re going to rotate them in and out all game Sanchez starts but Austin get’s lot’s of playing time. It’s going to be a plus to be able to have two guys going in fresh and able to go full speed all game.

    • Boom says:

      I think I would love to watch the game with him.

      • Andy Fox says:

        He is a great man. Walks 4 miles to workout on the 9th floor at the hospital (he takes the stairs), then he walks home. Sharp as a tack! I have a feeling he is right.

    • Slim Sooner says:

      I like him. I like him a lot. To whollop is good.

    • 47 Straight OU Know says:

      Buy that man a BEER, Is what I think. And none of that water beer either. You get him something worth drinking. Oh and tell him this is from 47.:-0

  • hOUligan says:

    Been mulling ‘K’s’ comment re: if OU doesn’t take down the Bears this year … Agree somewhat in that it isn’t likely to get any easier than this game. The Bears are a stout team at rb and oline and WRs. But with Seth out, frosh QB, suspect D, they are vulnerable. And while I see OU being a better team next year, think the Bears will be, too. The longer this anomaly of the Bears being perceived as the power program continues and them getting top recruits, the harder it makes it for OU. This stops now.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      I don’t see Baylor being better next year, unless the QB position makes that big of a difference this year. They lose 4 starting olinemen, and the giant off the dline, maybe Billings too. Coleman. I’m sure there are others.

      • hOUligan says:

        Their offense is ‘plug and play’. Stidham is only going to get better and they appear to be assembling another group of skill players OU has offered. They don’t get the highly rated linemen but with their system, don’t seem to need them. They simply outscore most teams. OU’s defense has been adequate but unable to keep up on offense. If they continue to recruit the offensive talent they are attracting (QB-WRs) and add a few pieces on D, it becomes increasingly difficult to overcome. Need to stop and reverse that trend.

        • j l says:

          They have the #2 OT in the 2016 class in hudson, and another 4 star in urquidez.

          They are getting good lineman now too.

          What they really lack is linebackers and secondary guys. When those kids start flowing in….

    • DUNCANSOONER says:

      That comment has been eating at me as well… The dude does not abide…

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Baylor won a close, tough game at Kansas State, then had a few extra days off between games. We’ve been trending upward since Texas, so I don’t care if we’re playing at Baylor, by golly, they are going to face adversity on Saturday by double golly!!

  • Exiled In Ohio says:

    OK, I’m going to irritate most of you. First, I think the Stoops brothers will play somewhat conservative on D. And second, I agree with that.

    I don’t think you optimize your chances by taking excessive risks on D. I like the “bend, don’t break” philosophy. Play conservative most of the time, and then pick your moments to get aggressive. We have very good DBs, but not at the level that we can constantly press and get away with it. When BU is ahead of the chains, play conservative most of the time. When they get off-schedule, then press and take some risks. All we have to do is stuff a run, have them miss on a pass, have a penalty …just get them behind schedule. Then we can get aggressive. Just need to force a few 3rd downs, and then win our share of them.

    Like all of you, I have never been more frustrated with OU football than I was in the 3rd quarter last year. It was awful. And that’s not what I’m advocating. The Stoops didn’t have DBs they trusted last year and they just sat back the entire drive; in fact, most of the game. This year, we have the personnel to pick our spots and press, but I just don’t think it’s wise to do it most every down. It’s not a crime to give up a 7-yard out, or even several on one drive. We just need to pick our spots and win on 3rd down some. I think we have a better team than BU, and we should win if we play smart. Playing press the majority of time is not smart in my book. Minimizing big plays is a higher priority than stuffing every drive for a 3-and-out. They are going to score on us; we just need to make them earn each of them.

    If we want to win, we can’t have their receivers get behind our DBs regularly, like i saw happen 2-3 times against ISU/ Keep ’em in front of us.

    • Jordan Esco says:

      Couldn’t possibly disagree more, but I do see where you’re coming from. My thing is we’ve seen the ‘bend, but don’t break’ fail miserably the last two years. We know that won’t work, so why try it a third time?

      I’d MUCH rather be aggressive even knowing you’re going to get beat on occasion, rather than just trying to keep everything in front of you.

      • Exiled In Ohio says:

        I’m not advocating playing exactly like we did last year. We had absolutely no trust in the DBs, and never pressed or took risks. We just need to pick our spots. Basically I’m saying exactly what L’Carpetron said above: “make them execute down the field to score.” Don’t press for 3-and-out every possession and give up huge plays; just make them earn it and then score more frequently than they do.

      • Boom says:

        Aggree, be aggressive the whole game. I would like for our DBs from time to time be physical with their WRs at the LOS. Delay the WR timing. This kills quick timing patterns which they will be running a lot of. If we can be aggressive doing this occasionally, Striker/Bond or a blitz will get in Stidham’s head.

    • KJ1123 says:

      That style of football will get the ball run down our throats Sat. (speaking on the D as a whole) We’ve seen some really good things happen with back side DB blitzes for example. I hope we do more Sat.

      • Exiled In Ohio says:

        I agree that the DBs need to take risks to stop the run. Stopping the run has gotta be first priority. But we don’t blitz our safeties every down and expect the CBs to play press. That’s a recipe for disaster.

        One of the deciding factors in this game will be how many defenders we have to commit to stop the run.

        • KJ1123 says:

          Yeah I agree playing press all the time isn’t sound in my opinion. I HAVE seen this year our DBs stand on the first down marker on a 3rd and 8 or 7 play and that just absolutely doesn’t make any sense to me. But I agree we cant press all or the majority of the time.

      • metzker says:

        Just put 11 on the line and knock em all down LOL /S

      • 47 Straight OU Know says:

        KJ How does the d look in practice. You obviously don’t have to go in to detail, as to not give to much away. From what you have seen or heard are they ready?

    • Josh says:

      You might irritate folks but doesn’t mean you’re wrong lol. People act like it was all on the defense that we lost and yes they share blame but it’s a team game. 2 years ago the defense balled out until they got worn down because the offense did nothing. Last year after jumping out to 14-3, again the offense did nothing. Baylor doesn’t put up 40+ either year if the offense doesn’t have 3 and outs 50% of the time, or whatever it was. Defense will tweak things because they are better this year and can do more things. But the reason OU has a much better chance this year Is because of the offensive improvements not because the Stoops brothers have magically figured baylor out.

      • Boomer4life says:

        Well said…Sir!

      • SoonerOracle737 says:

        Exactly my opinion too. Our D looked good early, but when our O went stagnant the D got gassed and folded. Team game for sure and each side of the ball feeds off of the other.

    • Birddawg says:

      IMO I would come after him early and often.I wouldn’t allow this true freshmen gain any rhythm and confidence. Force him to come off his first read, hold the ball longer and throw a contested pass. Dictate with misinformation, physicality and aggression every single snap to slow down his reaction.

  • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

    Establish the run: shorten the game and decrease the number of possessions Baylor has

    Affect the QB: Stidham needs to have his clock sped up. Blitzes, getting in passing windows, rerouting receivers, press coverage/press-and-bail coverage, and so on.

    Be efficient in scoring TDs: When OU gets in the red zone they need to score TDs, not FGs. OU needs to make Baylor chase them.

    Adopt a “slow them down” mentality”, not a “shut them out” mentality: Baylor is likely to score and may score quite a few TDs. The team that wins is the one that has more points. That’s it. We fans want OU to not allow Baylor to score more than 21 points. Just win the game and go home.

    Be efficient on defense: Make Baylor execute a drive down the field to score. This will further shorten the game and reduce the number of Baylor’s possessions.

    Do these and OU wins.

    • James says:

      Yes, you’re correct…
      I would add, limit penalties. Especially the “knucklehead” ones.

    • MrBigsby says:

      Now if you could just get Mike to buy in!!

    • Birddawg says:

      Defensively, get off the field on third downs.

      • hOUligan says:

        And that is a bit of a problem for OU. Playing some good D and ranked nationally in some categories ( 8th in pass eff D, 16 scoring D, 23 total D, but 3rd down D is not one of them while Baylor is 10th in 3rd down pct and 9th in 4th. Gotta get some stops and TOs.

      • Boom says:

        Doesn’t matter, they will go for it on 4th down. Baylor will play to win with their O. I don’t see them punting much if any at all. Baylor realizes they don’t have the best D so they have to score points.

        • BadgerSooner says:

          Hmm, long time lurker, first time poster… uncontrollable urge to fix this for you:

          “I don’t see them punting much if any at all. Baylor smartly realizes their approach to [rarely] punting makes up for their recruiting deficiencies.”

          Baylor doesn’t have better players than OU.
          I don’t think Stoops is a bad coach, but Briles is better – he’s ahead of the curve on understanding how valuable a possession is.

          I’m terrified of imagining what the game would look like if he were coaching our players and stoops had theirs…

      • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

        That’s a good one, a glaring omission from the list. Thank you.

    • Stephen Dale says:

      you forgot : keeping composure when Oakman takes a shot at another OU player…..

      • KJ1123 says:

        They will definitely be trying to hurt Baker….I hope he slides or runs out of bounds alot.

        • Boom says:

          I will guarantee you they will cheap shot him all night and I’m sure they won’t mind the penalties. They want to be Miami of the 80’s.

          • KJ1123 says:

            What story it would be if they did something stupid and put Baker out just for the rest of the game…and TK comes in and demolishes them after getting hurt by “Oafman” last year.

          • Boom says:

            quite the story and would be sweet revenge.

        • ohiosoonerdevildog says:

          I’d love nothing more than for Brown and Farniok to post chop Oakman if he’s lined up on their side. I’m usually not for dirty plays like that,but he’s earned one.

          • Boom says:

            If Oakman were to get hurt, I would prefer he did it by trying to hit someone with a cheap shot.

          • ohiosoonerdevildog says:

            Not me. That guy is as dirty as they come. I hope the OU hog mollies inflict pain on him.

        • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

          How they seem to avoid ejections time and time again, I’ll never know.

      • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

        That’s actually a good point. Hope OUr dudes are getting coached up knowing this team is dirty.

        Not just dirty. Exceptionally dirty.

    • rainydaze114 says:

      Your #2 point should be the priority IMO. He’s a freshman… make him look like one.

    • Zack says:

      I would love to see us blow them out though. Although I’ll still be nervous going into tcu and osu games even though I think Baylor is much better…should be about even now with Russell out but I think they were vanilla on purpose vs k state.

      • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

        I’m hoping that Baylor is inconsistent. They were inconsistent, but explosive with Russell. One play Russell would overthrow a WR. Another play they’d get stopped for 1-2 yards on the a run. They next play they’d hit someone for 30 yards.

        If we can cause Baylor to be more inconsistent and limit those huge plays, then OU should be good.

        • Zack says:

          If we win something like 55-28 that would be great. Also if we hold them under 400 total yards. I don’t think winning these games 63-56 would be good wins in the committees eyes. We’re trying to tout the best defense in the big 12 so we need that reputation to prove true.

    • Kelsta says:

      I really like most of these points. My only issue is with the idea of making Baylor execute and drive down the field to score. That’s their bread and butter. It’s near impossible to keep everything underneath AND “Affect the QB” AND hold their rushing attack in check. That said, I do believe the defense mentality is important. Baylor will likely own the middle of the field when they are on offense. Defense should allow underneath until Baylor gets close to the red zone. When they have a shorter field is when we should play tight coverage and pressure the QB.

      I know it’s not a good thought but think about (or go watch) how ND played OU in Norman. It was almost like they gave us the middle of the field. It seemed like at a certain point in the drive, the mentality (and philosophy) would shift. They pressed and became aggressive when they could use the end zone as a boundary to the deep ball.

      • Fear The Magic says:

        That makes a lot of sense. What are the chances that Mike will think of it?

        • Kelsta says:

          I think Baylor has probably kept Mike up late at night. I hope he has some tricks up his sleeve. I hope the defense we saw with TU wasn’t a preview of the BU game plan. Our D has grown and changed a lot. I feel like we’ll be up for the challenge early but I’m worried about the second half. As mentioned earlier, I think the defense mentality (players and coaches) will be important.

      • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

        According to the FEI statistics, Baylor’s strength is not methodical drives (drives of at least 10 plays or more). They are 103rd in the nation.

        Their strength is explosive plays (plays of at least 10 yards or more). They are #1 in the nation.

        Source: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/feioff

        OU’s strength on defense is limiting an opponent’s explosive plays of 10 yards or more. They are 3rd in the nation. They are 39th in the nation at allowing methodical drives of at least 10 plays or more.

        Source: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/feidef

        Overall, OU’s defense is ranked 2nd in the nation, according to the FEI rankings.

        OU’s strength on offense is explosive plays as well, not methodical drives. Baylor is pretty good at both of those.

        • Kelsta says:

          We can both agree they have been explosive…no source documents needed. That doesn’t mean their goal is to score in 3 plays or look for big plays. Their offense is built around taking what the defense gives them. I believe they would literally run the ball every play if that’s what the D gives them(or vice versa). They are explosive because they are efficient in their offense and have significantly “out athleted” every team they’ve played. If our primary goal on D is to force them in to long drives, I believe it will be a long night for sooner fans. Just my opinion.

    • wolfbuilder says:

      1. If anyone thinks they will score less then 21 they don’t have a clue, hope to hold them under 35 and we can win

      2. Can’t compare us and baylor k state games, 2 completely different teams us and kstate, we r an uptempo passing team that has some issues pass blocking on the edge and against solid front 7’s really struggling to open holes where ksu has been better in the runblocking

      3 yes we need to run but they r not good in the back end, we need to us our tempo and pick apart the db’s to setup the run, NO DEEP DROPS AND GET THE BALL OUT, Play our game don’t change just cause they have a good Offense

  • KJ1123 says:

    A little late but hearing that Frison was back at practice yesterday. I believe only working with the scout team though. Not sure if he will see any playing time at all this year. But at least he’s back practicing and working out with the team.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      very encouraging news. thanks KJ.

    • Zack says:

      Alvarez back or do you see farniok getting the start this week?

    • rphokc says:

      so, would that mean he’s out of the doghouse and cleared all the hurdles

    • soonerthunder says:

      excellent

    • Bill Holder says:

      That is some great news. Look forward to having him and Lampkin both next year. That’s not rebuilding, that’s reloading. We have been missing that around Norman.

    • kt-raida says:

      I honestly believe and always have, that next year is our year. We could be the Ohio State of the playoffs this year but with Frison adding depth on the line all the young talent and that defense 2016 is the year!!!!!

      • D Hunter Sanchez says:

        Yeah, returning everybody except Ty/Nila on the O-line, but they are not all-American types and arguably could be considered the weakest of the five linemen this year. Losing Shep/Neal. But will get Andrews/Quick on the field more often. Should be able to win games running. Defense everybody is back except Striker/Bond/Sanchez. Playing Ohio St game two in our place!

  • SoonerOracle737 says:

    Over/Under on point total is currently at 77. Isn’t that a bit low for the #1 & #3 scoring offenses?

  • leatherneck1061 says:

    Well I predicted the other day that there would be a push to get LSU into the playoff using the “It’s the SEC!, they lost to the BEST team in the country!, it’s not fair!” justification. But this is a little ahead of schedule:

    http://collegefootballnews.com/2015/projected-college-football-playoff-whos-the-fourth

    • Zack says:

      The thing is lsu got dominated. Bama could have easily beat them by 30 but they took their boot off the gas.

      • leatherneck1061 says:

        Hey you got no argument from me. What I said the other day is if OU wins out we will definitely deserve to be in the CFP, but that all indicators still point to the committee giving us the finger and an excrement sandwich. That’s probably the case whether we’re getting bumped by LSU or Stanford/Notre Dame, but either way the SEC myth still holds sway over many in sports media and the CFP committee. Someone really should start a treatment center, because clearly these people can’t help themselves.

        • Pokerman says:

          Even more than the SEC crap, I am angry about the cache given to Notre Dame. Their schedule is vastly overrated and, as a result, their team is vastly overrated. $$ is 95% of the reason why all the network hacks are talking them up.

          • Dick Bump says:

            I’m tired of the sec and ND crap also. It’s just tv. Notre Dame has a big following across the country and the fact that they are not a member of a Power 5 conference makes for good controversy. Controversy increases interest. When you regurgitate the same bs every 30 minutes, you need something. I don’t think the talking heads affect the committee that much, which is all that matters.

          • SamSooner says:

            I guess that take away the argument for a conference championship. LOL!

            If ND doesn’t why should the Big XII?

        • Zack says:

          Best case scenario is Stanford beats notre dame. Stanford loses to Oregon. Florida loses to South Carolina (watch) and beats fsu and bama.

          There’s going to be some serious chaos trust me. I just hope ou runs the table.

      • j l says:

        Not only did they get dominated by bama, but the usual stout defense isnt there in general, after losing chavis. They are giving up 23.5 PPG, a whopping .3 less than what ok state gives up.

        Our defense is far better than the tigers, against far better offenses.

      • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

        LSU coaches made a big mistake, which is what LSU is built to do. Les will run the ball regardless of whether there’s a brick wall in front of them. LSU coaches tried to beat Bama at Bama’s strength.

    • soonerthunder says:

      the only poll that matters is the last one, and the committee will do what they did last year, do what they want to get whoever they want in in the last vote. look at #3 tcu winning by 50 pts against a decent team and dropping 2 spots. none of their polls matter except the last one and they will do what they want. I predict that no matter where lsu is, they will drop out of the top 4 in that poll.

  • SamSooner says:

    TFB Family, don’t worry about Baylor. OU will be ready. Baylor will be as tight as a dixie hatband. Don’t worry about Baylor.

    • leatherneck1061 says:

      Part of the concern about Baylor is the unknown. We really don’t know yet how good Baylor is or isn’t. And since they had their game on Thursday, they have had a little extra time to quietly prepare. I would feel better if this game were at least on a neutral field.

      • SamSooner says:

        All you need to know is how good OU is. The rest doesn’t matter. Do you think Michael Jordan worried about his opponent or just being at his best?

        As for the extra time, they will need it.

        • SoonerfanTU says:

          I’d argue we don’t know exactly how good OU is either. We’ve done everything possible to show we are really good the last several weeks, but there is a LONG list of college teams over the years that have beaten up on mediocre teams for 4 weeks, and come up short against better teams. I don’t think that is OU, but I also wouldn’t be all that shocked or disappointed if we lost close ones to Baylor and OSU.

          • SoonerfanTU says:

            And for the record, I think we’re pretty darn good. I’m just saying, we can be pretty darn good and still lose a game or two yet this season.

          • SamSooner says:

            I’ll take my medicine if I have to but OU’s not losing any of these games.

          • soonerthunder says:

            save some for me if we have to, but i agree with you

          • SamSooner says:

            I usually watch OU’s games three time: once live, once for pleasure, once to study. The offensive line is close, I mean very close, to being dominant. I saw on several plays where Brown was mauling ISU players. And, he seemed to be enjoying it.

            Samia is the real deal. He has a nasty streak also. Folks talk about how poorly Darlington plays but I disagree. He spent a lot of time worrying about the younger players. Look at his play the last few games and that doesn’t mean he played poorly the first few games. He can finally focus on his assignments and nobody else.

            Shepard, Neal, and Westbrook are solid. Throw in Andrews and there a four receivers Baylor has to cover. Sorry LBs, you’re toast. Watch LR attack the middle of the field with Andrews.

            Mixon and Perine, need I say more.

          • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

            ANDREWS

          • hOUligan says:

            Very close. Ty POG on offense this past week according to Bob. And Brown and Samia are playing like veterans. Glad to have Alvarez back for this one. Gotta stay healthy up front.

          • soonerthunder says:

            i heard several weeks ago that the coaches spend more time talking about how to get andrews into the game than anything else. i think we will see lots of andrews the next 3 weeks.

          • SamSooner says:

            He’s the best TE we’ve had in a while. He will only get better.

          • EasTex says:

            I saw fear in the eyes of the baylor coaches last week when KSt was gouging their defense running the ball. Their defenses alignment didn’t matter because their players couldn’t compete. KSt beat themselves with 3 turnovers.
            To me it is unrealistic to think that suddenly baylor will have a great defense to stop our offense. Equally unrealistic to believe that baylor’s offense will perform better against us than they did at KSt.
            If suddenly and without warning baylor plays fantastic on both sides of the ball then they will deserve recognition for it.

          • SamSooner says:

            Exactly. They know who we are. They know this a different OU team.

          • EasTex says:

            They will score some points, of that I am certain. I think our defense will steal some possessions from them with punts and turnovers. They just need to stop their running game dead in its tracks and force the newb QB to carry their offense.
            Baylor’s defense is outclassed and outmanned. OU should be able to do what they want, though I would prefer running the ball and short passes.

          • soonerthunder says:

            i did too. they were scared at the end of that game

        • leatherneck1061 says:

          I am cautiously optimistic, of course. Either way, I will be ready on game day, shouting Boomer Sooner for anyone who will hear 😉

  • EasTex says:

    Here are the box scores for baylor’s last two games, teams we beat soundly.
    First is ISU and recall baylor played their starters the full game, Russell got hurt with less than 6 minutes in the game.
    http://espn.go.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400763441

    Next is KSt, a team OU pwned from the opening drive.
    http://espn.go.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400763449

    • SamSooner says:

      Baylor has been able to mask some weaknesses that everyone is about to see.

    • soonerthunder says:

      i know, but i don’t like the way we played defense against Tulsa, but think we are better now. that still worries me–how we played d against tulsa

  • Birddawg says:

    Iowa is your 5th best team in the country.

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    I think it is ridiculous that Iowa is rated above OSU, let alone 3 spots in front of them.

    I really don’t like the way the committee is ranking teams.

  • Angryinch says:

    Lot’s of football left don’t worry about these current rankings. I don’t care if OU get’s left out of the playoffs OU still needs to win them all including the bowl game.

  • Recondo says:

    CFP insulting Big 12 again this week. How do the Gators still outrank us? How does BU stay put and OSU only move to 8 when Stanford and Iowa lack the same marquee win? Imbeciles.

  • Zack says:

    Ou jumped 3 spots after beating isu. If ou jumps an average of 3 spots after beating far better competition than isu, would end up third going into championship weekend. Teams ahead of ou are going to lose no need to worry when ou isn’t sitting at 11-1 currently.

    • Shelby is a Patriot says:

      It certainly helps that our next 3 opponents are all ranked. How many teams can say that at this point in the season?

    • EasTex says:

      OU has no control over what the playoff cabal does. They do have control over what they do this Saturday night.

    • Recondo says:

      I was hoping against hope the committee would be logical and swap us and the Gators. If we look at OSU over TCU as an example, a win over BU should move us up another 4-5 spots so I’m not too concerned. At least 3 teams ahead of us now (off the top of my head) must lose mathematically so we have that on our side as well.

      • Fear The Magic says:

        Putting OU over the Gators wasnt going to happen even though it was deserved. The only thing we know for sure after two weeks of committee polls is that they have an SEC bias and a Big 12 anti bias. I expect that trend to continue right to the final poll.

    • soonerthunder says:

      yeah, but a lot of that depends on who loses in front of us too. last saturday it seemed several lost in front of us (can’t remember who right now). Did we jump anyone who didn’t lose, that’s the question. we should however, jump bu and osu if we win out, so that two spots for sure with wins. nd/stanford play each other, so that would be another. who else?

  • Dustin says:

    Another list including Baker Mayfield. Admittedly, I’ve never heard of this one.

    http://www.soonersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=31000&ATCLID=210486378

  • SamSooner says:

    I watched the Briles interview and one word comes to mind: arrogance. He’s an arrogant little peanuts head.

    That a** believes he doesn’t have to change anything. He thinks he’s going to win because he shows up.

  • kt-raida says:

    This is random, I like them both but I like Shannon starting over Evans.

    • Recondo says:

      I think it should depend on the matchup. We have that kind of luxury across the defense which I love.

    • OUknowitscomin says:

      I like Evans for length when defending short passes. Had a couple tips vs ISU that would have been bigger plays.

    • William Ryan says:

      Evans is more athletic and prolly better in coverage, while shannon is more physical, better against the run and the more experienced player. I personally prefer Shannon that play where he stoned the rb in his tracts, solidified the notion even more.

  • Bill Holder says:

    With all the recruits we had in last Saturday , no commits?

  • j l says:

    I mean, i dont like to claim conspiracy, but these rankings are pretty hard to grasp. Our ranking isnt too bad, but does anyone with a brain truly believe iowa is the 5th best team in the country?
    How do they jump baylor with an 8 point win over a 4-4 indiana team?

    According to vegas power rankings, iowa would be a 20 plus point underdog to baylor. Hell, they would be 17.5 point underdogs to us.

    Even if we win out, if ND beats stanford, i dont see us getting in. Not with this committee.

    • Recondo says:

      I agree with much of what you say. Funny thing is, except my belief OU should be ahead of Florida, I have no issue with our current rank. The top 10 is a disaster, however. I do believe we beat most of the teams ranked ahead of us but we have to prove it since we took a dump in Dallas.

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  • Sooner Ray says:

    Met a fellow Brainiac for some beer this afternoon, good guy and good Sooner conversation. Don’t care about rankings right now, just beating some bears and finishing the season strong.

  • Kevin Burger says:

    Looks like the committee could learn a thing or 25 from the AP about ranking teams.

  • Lane Gilstrap says:

    I hope that when we whip Baylor, we don’t let up. Even if we get a chance to play backups at the end. We need to think score, score, score. We need to make a statement with every game from here on out. Forget hanging half a hundred… Hang the whole hundred. NO MORE GARBAGE TIME…KEEP SCORING

  • William Ryan says:

    I think best way to defend this Baylor team is to be able to control the line of scrimmage with 3 down linemen and keeping striker and Bond on the field at the same time as much as possible. We have to confuse their young qb with multiple blizzes and looks. Now I know we are sacrificing an extra db, but we all seen last year that playing a prevent defence sets us up for a slow death… but if we can get to him early and often we can throw off those quick throws and prevent him from finding a rhythm plus our secondary is proving they can cover and tackle in space. K State laid the blueprint down and proved your best defence is clock eating drives. I think it will come down to Mayfield keeping play alive with his legs, and finding a rhythm on offence and nothing would better to see mixon and Perine punishing the Baylor d with a half empty Stadium.

    • EasTex says:

      We tried blitzing some last year, they never got close as they get rid of the ball so fast.
      We need to stop their run first, like KSt did.
      Baylor’s defense, particularly their run defense is horrible. Runs and play action will need to be effective for OU.

      • MoJoOkie says:

        I think I’d rather see a legit four man front to stop the run and bring the occasional (hopefully unexpected) blitz off that. Stuff the run and force the young QB to prove his worth. JMO

  • William Ryan says:

    I think best way to defend this Baylor team is to be able to control the line of scrimmage with 3 down linemen and keeping striker and Bond on the field at the same time as much as possible. We have to confuse their young qb with multiple blizzes and looks. Now I know we are sacrificing an extra db, but we all seen last year that playing a prevent defence sets us up for a slow death… but if we can get to him early and often we can throw off those quick throws and prevent him from finding a rhythm plus our secondary is proving they can cover and tackle in space. K State laid the blueprint down and proved your best defence is clock eating drives. I think it will come down to Mayfield keeping play alive with his legs, and finding a rhythm on offence and nothing would better to see mixon and Perine punishing the Baylor d with a half empty Stadium.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Remember how it was to win v Baylor?

    https://youtu.be/mQnsCCFsmX4

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