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– Spoke with a source regarding the Kenyon Frison suspension and what it might mean to the team. Source said Frison had a “mountain of potential” which certainly comes as no surprise, but they also said he wasn’t going to be the starter at RT as has been mentioned as a possibility numerous times since word of his suspension first broke.
Now, obviously if Frison were going through camp perhaps he could have eventually won the spot. We can’t know that now, nor will we get the chance to find out. At a minimum, however, the loss of Frison definitely hurts from a depth standpoint if nothing else.
– On a more positive note, though, my source said there will be depth along the OL. They said the freshman look good, “they may just need some time…but Bedenbaugh is the best teacher and demands that everyone is ready to play.”
– In speaking with multiple sources, it sounds like the offensive line is coming together well. But I also get the sense that, from a run blocking perspective, it definitely helps having the kind of running backs OU will be running out there. When I asked one source about OU’s ability to run the ball the response I got was, “the running backs…Mixon…Brooks…those guys are going to get through the trash regardless.”
– I’m sure most fans will feel a lot better when they can actually see the offensive line in action, but behind the scenes it sounds like there is a lot of confidence in what coach Bedenbaugh can do to ensure the group is ready.
– Was told that Jeffrey Mead had a nasty one-handed catch yesterday. Evidently, he grabbed it as the ball was going out of bounds.
– Was also told that Carson Meier caught a long TD pass yesterday. Have heard that Meier has been very difficult to defend in jump ball situations.
– From everything I’ve heard, I get the sense that the starting 11 personnel grouping right now would be: Sterling Shepard, Dede Westbrook, Duron Neal and Mark Andrews with Samaje Perine in the backfield. But guys like Mead, Meier, Michiah Quick, Dallis Todd, Dahu Green, AD Miller, and others are, not surprisingly, getting a lot of reps as well. As I mentioned earlier in the week, there seems be a very concerted effort this year to create a lot of depth with competition.
– Related to the point above, I’m told the coaches are not shying away from letting veteran guys know that the best players are going to play. In the opinion of some (many?) OU may have had a tendency in the past to defer to upperclassmen, some might even go so far as to say play favorites. And I can’t definitively say that has gone away entirely. But I do believe that through sharing repetitions and just articulating the openness of the competition, they are creating a more competitive environment.
– A source recently had some really high praise for Lincoln Riley, saying that he is “amazing at dealing with the players.” Went on to say that, “(Riley) doesn’t cause them (the players) to overthink things…he keeps everyone cool and calm and makes sure they get it…something that’s been lacking the past few seasons…”
– Heard some more praise for true freshman Ricky Deberry. Was told he has received the highest grade on production points — which is a system the coaches use to evaluate players on film — of all the linebackers on separate occasions now.
– Also heard that Zack Sanchez is playing at a very high level right now. As one might expect, he’s had multiple INTs during camp. But even beyond that, I have heard that he’s just cleaner in everything he does.
– Was told Jordan Thomas has also had an excellent camp and snagged a couple INTs himself. Heard that yesterday wasn’t his best day, but overall he’s played very well.
– Was also told that Kerry Cooks is a stickler for technique, evidently it has been a huge point of emphasis in practices. He apparently doesn’t want guys just playing on instinct, he wants guys who learn and play with the technique he is teaching.
– Heard that Kahlil Haughton had an INT yesterday as well. Apparently it was tipped by PJ Mbanasor first, and Haughton hauled it off the tip.
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Thanks for the practice updates. Anything on Quick?
I forgot about Quick. Rather have him starting than Neal.
Sorry about that, totally forgot about Quick but yes, he will definitely be in the rotation as well I’m told.
Do you think you could get some notes on him? He was one of my favorite gets last year, so I’d love to hear how he’s developing.
Question, with the Frison suspension, is the thought that he is going to be off the team? I ask because he is still on the roster and one might think he will be back after said suspension.
I dunno, but in my experience with HCBS if you are “indefinitely suspended” that means you wont see the field for that season in the best case scenario.
I think Esco spoke to someone at OU about this. He might able to chime in.
Usually, indefinite suspension means he’s not off the team yet. It does turn into that often though. What it usually means is that they are going to give the kid a chance and if he does everything they want, then he will be allowed back on the team.
I have NO INSIDE INFORMATION but heard from someone I normally trust that there may be grade issues and serious homesickness.
Love the notes. Thanks K. Having only the last two years to go on, I have my reservations about Neal. Dropped passes, showing no real break away threat, and unable to get consistent separation. Has he improved? Couldn’t Mixon be used as both the second RB and in Neal’s spot?
I agree on Neal, but it seems that we have young WR that are ready to step up. I would think one of them would displace Neal and not Mixon.
Sounds good. HCBS likes a two-back rotation, so I should have figured.
You know with TK tendency to throw high at times, it’ll be nice to see Andrews 6’4, Mead 6’6 out there often with Shep and Dede.
I’ve always wondered about that. Both him and Bell, when they missed throws, would usually overthrow their receiver, and often by quite a bit. I’m wondering if maybe they were told to do so by JH? I’m no QB expert, but it certainly looked taught to me.
That is a QB philopsophy, I do believe. If you’re making certain throws put ’em high and make the receiver go up and get it. I think it works in some situations, but not with 6’0 receivers.
I still recall both QBs throwing one-bouncers last year. My hope is that both (and BM) have improved accuracy – that helps receptions and cuts INTs.
Several of those couldn’t have been caught by Manute Bol. Going high is one thing. when the ball lands 22 yards up field its a bit excessive and 6’4″ isn’t going to help.
U do know that they r saying Neal is the at least the number 3 wr maybe number 2. There is no way Mixon can play almost every down
I would say Durron was more consistent making catches than not making catches. He was great blocking down field and the few times he did touch the ball with space he made some plays. I am remembering a bubble screen I believe in particular that all the sudden was 20 yard play because of his ability. All that to say I am more than willing for him to get a chance in this offense to shine. If a younger player is truly better then let them step up.
I also loved reading that Durron worked out with Perine in the weight room all summer and I love the idea of a strong WR like him taking on DB’s once he gets the ball.
The guy I don’t feel like we are hearing a lot about, that I thought could have a huge year, is Quick. Where has this guy gone?
int, int, int, int, int. The interception theme has continued from the spring game. So its either the DB’s are some ball hogs. Or the QB’s are just not getting the job done
Me personally im going with the former not the latter
It’s also that the DB’s become very familiar with the scheme and the players they are guarding. Easier to jump a route when you know what is coming.
I’m glad they get to defend this type of offense everyday because they will see it a lot in conference
Yeah I agree with Bob. I remember in the spring game in 08..the DBs had 6 INTs…6! Even Bradford threw picks in practice.
Sometimes its the receiver. He can telegraph the play based on what he does. The more familiar you are with him the easier that is to do.
I was told by someone that 3 of the pics belong to the gunslinger Mayfield. I don’t think this guy can get past trying to put a ball in a space that he shouldn’t, instead of taking what the defense gives him.
By “someone” do you mean TFB’s previous practice report?
Actually by someone who I think the TFB talks to on occasion, so in a round about way that is true. I am ashamed for taking your praise TFB please forgive me and allow me to continue to read and post!
Jordan is just messing with you Daryl. Please continue to post any insider notes you receive bro. They are very much appreciated.
I know Jordan and I are all good. Just good preseason fun. Appreciate all you guys do.
Got you guys another reader last night. I have a buddy living in Kentucky that I am sure will be posting soon. He and I are so far from the land of Norman we need this sooner nation community everyday.
Dude is throwing himself out of any chance at starting.
I was hoping, and thought Mayfield would win the job. Not going to happen. I’d bet, saving an injury or something, that TK starts the Akron game.
If you’re running an Air Raid offense effectively, your int total should be down. A lot of the throws in Lincoln Riley’s offense seem designed to be gimmes — so long as the QB is patient and doesn’t try to overthink things.
I agree that Mayfield’s tendency to force passes may lead to him being — pun intended — passed over.
I like to think also that this is the only time that QB’s can really test themselves to know what they are capable of, tight windows etc. I am sure there are times when LR tells the QB’s to play fast and loose and other times when he wants them to play in game mode and protect the ball. If they are just tight windows and the CB wins a battle it is a lot better than just not seeing how the defense is aligned and throwing a pick 6.
All that to say… without context I would take it all with a grain of salt.
On top of that, you have to imagine that CB are also seeing what they can do and are probably being quite aggressive.
I’m a really positive guy, but keep feeling the same way about QB. You may have seen me post it before: we are “QB-challenged”.
I predict TKPK6 will start and be little better than last year.
We still may win all our games, but expect the QB situation to be as listed above.
If Knight is only a little better, than I don’t think we’ll win all our games. I think Knight/Thomas/Mayfield can be as good as any of the Taco Tech or Boykins we’ve seen.
i have a tendency not to believe you are a positive person when your nickname for one of our qb’s is seriously negative
I am a positive person, but take your point that the nickname is negative. I just haven’t seen anything from TK that makes me think he can do much better than he has.
Having said that, I recognize that it is a negative opinion.
just giving you a hard time, but i think he can come closer to bama than not with riley
I think it is worth mentioning…again…Riley will also be on the sideline during the games so he can commiserate with his QBs, coach them up and calm them down when needed.
Did you watch the Sugar Bowl? Just saying….
As someone noted below, I did leave out Miciah Quick. That was an accident. He is expected to be in the rotation. My bad folks!
fixed
Wow… this is enough for me to leave and go pay for less information somewhere else… #jokes
There hasn’t been much talk on TFB about Quick. That said, we’ve heard a lot about Westbrook, AD, & Dahu but not Quick. Is he doing well?
Yes, I’ve heard he is doing well. I just tend to forget to ask about him for some reason.
Maybe Quick needs to ping you and strike up a conversation. : )
Great to hear the news about J Thomas’s camp.. I love
the SBNation blog “Football Study Hall” and they always preach that great
defenses tend to have 3 really good coverage players.. It sounds like we have
that right now with Sanchez, Thomas and Parker..would you guys agree with that
though?
I am glad he is having a good camp as well. Remember him making some great plays as a true freshman last year when he had to step up. Seems that he has the ability to turn into a great CB.
I agree about Thomas’s potential. Hes very athletic and SMART. Thats a big plus for a CB.
hopefully the DB’s can replicate the INT’s against the competition instead of just the OU QB’s
Hopefully you can replicate the invisible man.
Wow! That is the funniest reply i’ve ever seen to Dale.
Saw “Thomas” in your last sentence and about spit my lunch out thinking it was Ahmad Thomas. But your post was about JT. Whew.
One point to make regarding the oline is that this systems design doesn’t need all Americans along the oline to be successful. How many 1st round draft picks came out of Texas Tech back in the day? The oline will be fine. They need to be assignment sound and technically on point which they will be.
Thank you, hopefully this comment calms the folks with any concern.
I think they’ll be fine too. I get that Frison had a great upside. But he didn’t even start the spring game. I’m sure he would’ve gotten better in fall camp…but it isn’t like St. John wouldn’t get better as well.
From what you’ve heard, is Frison definitely not coming back or is it a situation where he could eventually work his way back on the team?
Sorry, just realized you commented on this below.
What about Mittemeier is he not in the rotation at tackle?
Yeah…but TT never won the conference or national championship either.
Tech never had a defense. Think their offenses were plenty good
I think it’s fair to say that not all interceptions are always on the QB. Some are probably tipped passes. Some might be recievers not being where they need to be and some just excellent coverage. Of course BM has been known to take chances.
are these notes regarding the scrimmage yesterday?
For the most part, yes. I held the QB notes from the scrimmage. Wanted to get some additional QB notes from today before I run anything
Quit posting and get to work on those notes.
This is the kind of offense Durron Neal was brought in to play. I think he’s gonna have a good year.
I hope he proves me wrong, but I previously said if he’s in the starting line up this year we are in trouble.
watch him on screens, he does a good job of finding space and grabbing 6 yards. thats what his game is, not lining up and running deep routes
He has also been a very effective blocker.
Very underrated part of the game for WRs
He showed flashes yes, but he also dropped passes and failed to get consistent separation. But maybe that was JH fault. Either way, he has a clean slate and I suppose all the WRS have a fresh start. I admit I’m having trouble forgetting about last year. But LR offense is a new beginning for us.
You can’t argue with his experience. Someone needs a good reason to displace him in the lineup, can’t just write him off because a new guy looks good in practice
I think experience can be overrated. It’s not like he was that productive in his “experience”.
Oh I don’t disagree with you on experience not being everything. Can’t say that it’s over-rated. How many guys have we heard tearing it up pre-season or in the red/white game, but they cannot perform when the lights and TV cameras are on?
And to take it a step further, how many players are “gamers” but don’t show it in practice, yet never get to prove it on the field?
While I won’t say we’re in trouble, I think another deep threat like Mead would be the way to go. But he’s being given every opportunity to prove us naysayers wrong.
Man I was thinking the same thing. Heupel misused him and I too think he will end up surprising some folks this year, in a good way. I don’t want to bang on JH because the kid led this program to it’s last title and that will ALWAYS mean something. With that said the simple fact is his guys didn’t play near up to their potential. The play calling was so scripted even the most novice of fans could call a play before it happened more times than not. Neal has the pedigree to be a big-time player. I know ranking are many times wrong but he was a top 10 WR (offers from Bama, OSU, USC etc.) coming out of HS and has flashed on occasion during his time in Norman. He is a shifty type of guy that excels in open field situations which is what the spread is based on. Quit thinking so much and just make the plays as they present themselves! 5 is gonna be a player this year. Mark it.
Truth.
It’s easy to forget that we haven’t run an offense like Lincoln Riley’s, consistently, since Durron Neal has been in Norman. We still ran an Air Raid-lite system in Landry’s two years. He just never got a chance to play in it.
Just watching the way he operates, you get the sense that his game was made for this system.
It’s probably going to surprise some people how well our receivers take to this system. Dede Westbrook, Sterling Shepard, Michiah Quick, Durron Neal — these are YAC receivers here. You get those guys into space and let them work their magic. You hit them in stride on crossing patterns and let those dudes carve up the opposing secondary.
Then when you toss in some of the legit possession receivers OU has this season….
Let’s just say, I’m not going to be one bit surprised if OU comes out looking scary if they can get even consistent play from the QB. The receiving corp is a damn DIVERSE group of play makers.
K, yesterday you brought up Haughton and Mbanasor displaying veteran behavior. Could you expand on that topic a bit? Like what are they doing that separates them from typical freshmen? Thanks
Well, as an example, apparently earlier this week a call on the defense was made late (or also heard from someone that the coverage call wasn’t the right call) and PJ actually changed the call himself. Was told that the defensive coaches were very impressed with him not only making the call but having the confidence to change the call. Going forward OU just needs to continue to recruit the Perines, the Haughtons, the PJs…the Youngquists.
Thats good stuff. Always nice to hear about young players who are comfortable enough in their own skin and knowledge to take a chance and do what they believe is the correct thing. Says a lot about the character of a kid IMO. Thanks.
Mixon can definitely get through the trash. Yesterday he bounced out of a quickly closing A gap (going left) to the C gap (on the right) in one bound. He’ll be so dangerous when the OL finally solidifies.
KJ, keep these notes coming bro!
is kj one those with valuable posters with sources, one should pay attention
Seems like it. I don’t know him personally but I’ve noted he posts some good stuff.
Nah I just pass on “good” info whenever I have it and when I can.
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Yeah; more, more!
Haha ok one more, another play he squeezed through a hole (get your minds out the gutter) that you would think he had no chance of getting through. That one just showed his ability to make himself small when he needed to, for a guy his size that pretty impressive.
Thanks!
It’s stunning to me that the culture wouldn’t, by default, always be “the best guy plays” over mindless favoritism for upperclassmen. If your best guys aren’t on the field, your team isn’t as good as it can be. I just don’t get that.
It seems to happen everywhere and all the time. When I was there and Fairbanks was coach, a 4th-string linebacker got to play due to injuries and tore up the opponent. It’s human nature to have “favorites.” One has to overcome that tendency in order to reach top performance in business as well as sports.
Yes, saw that time and again in my career.
Given that we don’t emphasize recruiting in Oklahoma like we should, it doesn’t surprise me this could be or have been the mindset of the staff either. Hopefully both will be changing.
That was a complaint from some receivers about Norvell. Supposedly he had his guys, and others couldn’t play their way into starring roles.
yes, but Stoops clearly agreed with him, and I didn’t see anything during the games to contradict it. Some of those not chosen are always gonna think that.
Bob Stoops fired Norvell, so……..
There is that…:-) But I think there are lots of far more likely reasons for that than not putting the best players on the field. Especially considering Stoops’ comments at various points about the receiving corps.
Yep. I think Mead said something to that effect that he played very well last year in fall camp as well but couldn’t get on the field.
I think it probably is. It is the nature of the internet and even the trad media to complain when things don’t go well, and claiming that the best guy must not be on the field is low hanging fruit. I think it usually smacks of whining rather than any facts. Even though we heard that the departed receivers coach played favorites in practice and in recruiting on occasion, I think from what we saw on the field that he was in fact putting the best guys out there. The other coaches pay attention to that as well. The other guys just weren’t delivering. Bob Stoops simply could not have delivered .800 winning percentage by not playing the best guys he has available. EDIT: do they make mistakes sometimes? maybe, but the “culture” is clearly play the best guy, and their jobs depend upon making that evaluation.
But to be fair it is hard when a freshman or RSF come in and look great in practice but you now what you got in games with someone else. Example Keith Ford. I thought Ford looked great as a Freshman and early last year. Next thing you know Perine shows up and I am thinking how did this guy not get on the field sooner. Well, if I was a coach I would have banked on Ford more than Perine because of experience.
The other side of it is that trust is a major issue on a team and among coaches. You don’t want to tell a guy who played well that a young guy looked better in practice and just handover a spot only to see the young crumble at full speed. That causes doubt and mistrust.
It is not always this hard to discern but I think a lot of times it is.
Is Samaje still being held out ?
Minor knee injury, so yes.
enjoy hearing impressions of riley and the other newbies………hopefully hear more about reynolds as camp goes forward
Have heard great things about him. Heard he stood up to Mike Stoops the other day! lol
I’ve been told the QB’s can relate to Riley and they didn’t even want to talk to Heupel. Also, Heuple didn’t want to talk to them unless it was football only. No relationship with his QBs.
Was told the exact same thing Boom
This is what made Monty so good. He would relate to the kids. Meaning, discuss girlfriends, difficulty in class or anything that a kid needs to talk about. Heuple, no. Riley, yes.
Also, I think Kish does a good job of this too based on his pictures. I see Kish as a guy who would rather have the younger coaches get the attention for pulling in a recruit. He’s older and he doesn’t need that attention because he will prolly finish his career in Norman.
This surprises me about Josh. I’m sure everyone remembers his great leadership on the 2000 team, so much so that, after the final gun at the OB, he was carried off the field on his teammates’ shoulders.
Josh never struck me as a guy who was very personable or had much of a personality at all. He always looked and sounded very robotic to me.
Let’s not forget John Blake. Great at being personal with the guys. Great friend. Great supporter of the team. Great to take up for the guys. But it took Bob Stoops to take mostly the same players to a championship. Has to be a balance, maybe not individual coach to individual coach, but as a coaching staff. Would be good for each to know their strengths too. Nothing like having a coach who is not really personable trying to act personable. Not a good idea.
That is the impression it seems like when you read quotes or just saw interaction. For me it just seemed that there was no development or relationship. Almost just there to earn a paycheck. (I know that is extreme.) But looking at current QB’s, TK had 3 years, CT 2 years, and BM had 1 year. It would seem the least amount of time spent or the freshest mindest would have an easier time learning from Reily because of lack of bad habits. IMO…
Didn’t Bomar have some things to say about Heupel when he got here? Seems like I recall he didn’t think much of Heupel.
He made some comment lifting weights about “oh here comes the Heisman ‘loser'”…douchebag comment to make regardless of whether you like your coach or not.
Probably not since Bomar was out doing stuff he shouldn’t most of the time he was here. Probably not a good example.
Certainly not a good example but an early example of a QB having a strained relationship with Heupel.
As a JH “insider” and a self-admitted apologist, I am just going to say this. For better or worse, when the QBs are on the roster, he is 100% business. He is not going to buddy up and engage with them about girls, friends, or other aspects of their social/personal life (with obvious exceptions for family emergency or other similar issues). There is no doubt that he had a reputation among players as being a hardass. On a personal level, a lot of players didn’t even really like him while they were playing at OU. He demanded a lot. But I can promise you that he cared about and invested in these guys more than a lot of fans will probably ever know or appreciate. When the players graduate, everything changes. I think a lot of people underestimate the closeness of his friendships with most of the former OU QBs and the frequency with which they talk.
The sheer number of hours he put in when he was at OU would blow some of your minds, especially if you knew how they compared to many other members of the coaching staff. Every coach has his strengths, and a football team needs all types to be successful. Some coaches excel in the glad-handing, the recruiting, the social media updating, and those types of “soft skills” that are, without a doubt, critical and also keep the fan base amped up and engaged. Other coaches are the work horses who put in the time behind the scenes with planning and organization and hands-on coaching. At OU, he was an absolute work horse. So is Coach B. I don’t know if people realize that they are close friends. Without a doubt, JH has a lot of room to improve on the soft skills. That said, there are some coaches out there — Bill Snyder is a good example — who have succeeded without ever really mastering or caring about the politicking of it all, but I think those are the exception and not the rule.
Sorry for the long post, but I just think all of this gets lost in the shuffle sometimes.
“The sheer number of hours he put in when he was at OU would blow some of your minds, especially if you knew how they compared to many other members of the coaching staff.”
This wouldn’t surprise me at all actually. I’ve thought for several years that our staff didn’t put in the hours like other staffs do and it shows on the field. That being said, for all the hours JH might have put in, he toiled mightily just to put a mediocre product on the field if that’s indeed the case.
True from the standpoint of an OC, but not true from the standpoint of QB development – at least when he was the QB coach. Bradford – Heisman, White – Heisman, Jones – broke all kinds of records, May be true that he got moved to soon, but he obviously knows how to develop QB’s. I am not sure there is another QB coach in the country with his record. Did not like him as an OC, but QB coach was exceptional.
The only one of those that Josh recruited was Landry Jones. He coached Sam Bradford, but Sam was recruited by Chuck Long.
IMO, Josh’s biggest failure was that he signed the wrong players, or didn’t develop the ones he signed. Play calling was way down the list.
That is true, but he coached all of them I believe. Don’t get me wrong, I am glad to see him go as an OC. I just think that when he was doing the QBs he did a pretty good job. From: Disqus
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I think that’s a fair post to make. I just don’t think that Heupel should have been promoted so quickly. I think it hurt him as a coach. Our QBs just flat our were not being developed. Hardass or not, it wasn’t getting done. I hope he continues to grow as a coach and a person. Nothing but love for Heup. I am personally glad that he has moved on though.
Fair enough but coaching football is not always about X’s & O’s. There has to be a relationship. I’m saying JH wasn’t good at that from my sources. That’s all. I’m not saying he isn’t a good person. Thanks for your inside, it’s good to hear.
I never had the problems with JH that others did. I thought and think that most of the in game issues that he had were situational, and there’s certainly no need to rehash the details of how the games went at this point, although I looked at them all very carefully. It is interesting to read the various viewpoints about his coaching style, but I don’t agree with those that blasted his play calling or those who are convinced that the qb s didn’t develop. I just didn’t see it that way. No problem, though, understanding that, given the results last season, Stoops finally felt that it was time to go in a new direction and make a change. It will be interesting to see how well he does elsewhere, and very interesting, to say the least, to see how his successor does here.
Could be true. Not too long ago, I was on a plane with Josh and Landry (after he graduated). They were goofing around and joking.
You might want to clarify that one before someone rolls with it. Last “MS sucks” discussion went on for quite a while.
Good point Drew! Mike is an intense guy and coaches are going to butt heads. It’s nothing out of the ordinary. I just thought it was amusing that Diron, being a Yoda-type dude, was willing to come right back at him. It should be taken as a shot at Mike at all. More so praising Reynolds.
Saying, I like what you are. Yes, hmmm.
Wouldn’t matter. From the pictures I’ve seen of Reynolds, I wouldn’t mess with that guy at all. Looks like he could play RIGHT NOW. Also, he would jack Mike up in about a second.
Beautiful!
Well, in fairness, Mike was probably about 10 yards away from Riley the whole time…
K, what is the story at the 3-technique position? Apparently, OU has only Charles Walker and Duane Orso at that spot.
AT SDE, OU has Tapper (282), Dimon (260), DJ Ward (263), Obo (237), Ijalana (263), Mann (263), and Gabriel Campell (257). I don’t see anythere who has the weight to move to the 3-technique spot.
At NT, OU has Romar, Wade, Gallimore, Overton, and Garnett.
Surely, Gallimore is practicing at the 3-technique as well at NT. Wade played there some in the spring game, and the others were walkons behind Orso (Walker didn’t play in the spring game).
If either Walker or Orso got injured, the depth is not there. The good news is that Lampkin would probably be at that position.
I think you got it pretty much right based on what I’ve heard. I agree I think Gallimore could slide over to the 3 tech and he may very well be taking some reps there. I was told that Reynolds likes his guys to be able to play multiple techniques. And Lampkin would likely be a 3 tech as well. Tapper could slide into a 3 tech if needed. He was a B gap player last year
Thanks for the prompt reply. Yes, Tap is the biggest of the DEs.
Just as a side note, I’m told Overton is in the rotation with the one’s and not Gallimore at this point. Not sure what front he’s being used in but I’ve been told he has a very good first step and initial move.
Thanks for the info KJ
and we’re sure that Obo isn’t actually playing the same position as Striker and Bond now? 237 is really light to be behind a 282 lb player in Tap
I agree, but TFB reported that Obo had made the switch and was running 2nd team.
Good grief didn’t you read my post Lampkin will go juco….
I cant think of one reason why he’d decide to go juco. Hes qualified to get into a D1 college as of now.
Can you explain the difference between NT and 3-tech?
NT is lining up on the center or to one shoulder covering one of the A gaps. A 3 Tech is lining up on the outside shoulder of one of the guards covering one of the B gaps.
Thanks!
Here are some good images. K often refers to numbered gaps rather than lettered gaps and references “over” and “under” alignments.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2ee48b5db6cb9f553eba613a2085b085b5ac7660ba8392978309bc9f406fea7c.png
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dcd9078feb11d296cab47c511a54dddd5f3a3964e8821fc96089555a98929493.png
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/64fe56f75ae38fbfd00f64a677ff68855b2ceccf66ece0161976e0d65f732c34.png
Thanx!!
In the 4-2-5, the 3-technique tackle (Charles Walker) normally plays on the weak side, which is side of the standup DE (Striker). The NT (Romar) is on the side of the strongside DE (Tapper).
They are backed by two LBers, SAM and WILL.
Can’t a NT and a 3 Tech be interchangeable? I know they have different responsibilities and the 3 Tech may need to be “quicker”. Is that the real difference? The NT is there to eat up space and the 3 tech is there to get to the QB? I also suppose it depends on the 1 or 2 gap defensive scheme? The 1 gap is attacking and the 2 gap is basically trying to take up both gaps correct? to both sides of the center?
I understand that Seattle plays a 4-3 with 3-4 personnel. Thus, you could conceivably flip a NT and 3-tech. If the 3-tech can play a 1-tech, then it could work.
And a note, I’m referring to a NT as a 1-tech. To my knowledge, a NT doesn’t have to play two gaps or a 0-tech.
I thought our NT last year played a 2 gap responsibility, meaning he lined up at the 1 and had both A gaps? I could be totally understanding it wrong though.
Jordan was a NT, but we were running a 3-4. He was working two gaps. It sounds like OU will be running a 4-3 as the base this year.
This is a good .gif of Jordan. He’s lined up directly over the Center (0-tech), with the other DTs in a 4i technique, the inside of the Tackle.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KTVAimvOlcg/VMpaDmLzsgI/AAAAAAAAGnc/mWoLPGyRJDI/s1600/phillips2.gif
Yes, I believe that’s correct, but they are moving to a 1 gap this year. TFB have talked about this. Even above, you can see where K told me that Tapper played the 2 gap last year, so he could see Tap moving to the 3-technique in a pinch.
I hope they have somebody else beside Gallimore at 3 Tech cause if they another guy like Walker or Tapper that can be a good 3 tech and Neville at 1 Tech or NG that would be a really athletic DT position in an even front!
The deal is that the depth at 3-technique right now is Walker followed by Orso, followed by walkons (spring game).
If one of them gets hurt, someone else will have to be in the rotation. I suggested Gallimore or Wade (played both 1 and 3 in the spring game).
Love ‘O’ at NT and the idea of Gallimore at 3. Recall him saying something during his recruitment about OU letting him play ‘outside’. Doubt he meant SDE. With their size and quickness, could see those two flipping.
Really loving the skill position depth that it sounds like is developing.
COMPITITION EVERYWHERE!
Do we have any updates on Austin Roberts or Lampkin? I may have missed it so sorry if this has been answered before
Last I saw reported was that Austin Roberts’ transcript had been tied to the back of a asthmatic goat and is supposed to arrive “soon.” My understanding is that all he lacks is a copy of the transcript. Have not heard any problems other than that, but then I just know what I read online.
Last I heard on Lampkin was #JustWaitOnIt
Thank you for the response, Bob! I hadn’t heard anything but hadn’t been paying too much attention either, so I thought I’d ask people smarter than I if they had heard something!
Love you all, Brainiacs!
Well, I only seem smart because I read what they post here.
Yep i think you are correct Think Lampkin will be here myself o lmao@asthmatic goat
OK that’s comedy gold.
calendar for UT fall classes, registration for fall classes Friday August 21st. That is probably the day he will have to try to enroll and then be denied, after that he should be free to enroll elsewhere.
http://registrar.utexas.edu/calendars/15-16
This NLI shall be declared null and void if the institution named in this document notifies me in writing that I have been denied admission or, by the opening day of classes in fall 2015, has failed to provide me with written notice of admission, provided I have submitted a complete admission application. It is my obligation to provide, by request, my academic records and an application for admission to the signing institution. If I fail to submit the necessary academic credentials and/or application to determine an admission decision prior to September 1, the NLI office per its review with the institution will determine the status of the NLI.
If I am eligible for admission, but the institution named in this document defers my admission to a subsequent term, the NLI will be declared null and void; however, this NLI remains binding if I defer my admission.
well there ya go thank you Sir!
Summary is that you are right. Sounds like Texas has been slow playing him on the notification. Can’t wait to see Lampkin get on the field against Texas.
Charlie Strong is looking bad on this one
I agree. That is a bad look on texas. I get that you don’t want him competing against you, but don’t mess with a kids opportunity to play elsewhere because your staff didn’t do their do diligence to make sure the kid was academically eligible.
What I don’t get is that they just signed release papers for that one “Florida 5” kid… unless I read something wrong
Cecil Cherry? Aren’t they losing Duke Catalon too?
I hope that the minute UT gives Lampkin his official release he responds by saying “Muy bien, gracias”
How does one say Boomer Sooner in Spanish? That’s how I’d hope he does it
“El Boomer El Sooner”
Good one
Boomero Soonero.
Better to just say ¡que te den por culo! el Tejas
This made me giggle.
Or just say ¡que te den por culo! el Tejas
Aye de mi! He estado esperando
esto durante mucho tiempo.
He could simply toss them a quick, “chupa me” and drive north
I’m expecting Lampkin sometime in the next week and a half if all goes according to the current plan. Talked to Roberts coach earlier in the week and he said they are still waiting on the transcript but insisted there are no problems. Just a waiting game…so I guess it’s a #WaitOnIt and see situation
I feel for that kid (Austin Roberts). You know the guy wants to get to Norman to compete. It has to be hell sitting on a couch while the rest of his team fights for starting positions.
Excited about the oskies for the secondary. Disappointed in the oskies for the QBs.
can’t really say since we don’t know the situation of the play being practiced
True. I just get a little nauseaus when I hear the word interception. Hangover from last season.
Yeah me too, but if its 3 INTs during a 2 hour practice where 150 plays were run kinda thing we never know
Maybe I’m the only one that would appreciate something like this, but maybe K could provide us a depth chart for all the positions? I’m not necessarily looking for an exact standing of where guys are today, as much as something that just shows the competition at each position, and depth. Maybe a scholarship breakdown by position would accomplish the same.
Or maybe I should just go look at a roster and figure it out myself.
Why do something for free when you can demand someone else do it for free?
To be fair, I didn’t really “demand” it.
I was just joshin’ around.
Offense
L/WR
Durron Neal 5 (Sr)
Jeff Mead 15 (Soph)
Austin Bennett 8 (Jr)
Dahu Green 18 (Fr)
LT
Josiah St. John 55 (RS Sr)
Orlando Brown 78 (RS Fr)
Quinn Mittermeier 69 (Soph)
Christian Daimler 70 (RS So)
Bobby Evans 71 (Fr)
LG
Jamal Danley 52 (Jr)
Cody Ford 74 (Fr)
C
Ty Darlington 56 (Sr)
Jonathan Alvarez 68 (Soph)
Erick Wren 58 (RS Soph) WO
RG
Nila Kasitati 54 (RS Sr)
Alex Dalton 63 (RS Fr)
Dominique Hearne 79 (Fr)
RT
Derek Farniok 72 (RS Sr)
Dru Samia 75 (Fr)
Sam Grant 76 (RS Jr)
Joseph Paul 77 (RS Fr)
TE
Mark Andrews 81 (RS Fr)
Carson Meier 45 (RS Fr)
Connor Knight 89 (RS Jr) WO
Slot
Sterling Shepard 3 (Sr)
Michiah Quick 16 (Soph)
A.D. Miller 13 (Fr)
John Humphrey 2 (Fr)
R/WR
Dede Westbrook 11 (Jr)
Dallis Todd 19 (RS Fr)
Jordan Smallwood 17 (RS So)
Jarvis Baxter 1 (Jr) WO
QB
Baker Mayfield 6 (Jr)
Trevor Knight 9 (RS Jr)
Cody Thomas 14 (RS So)
Connor McGinnis 12 (Fr) WO
FB
Dimitri Flowers 36 (Soph)
RB
Samaje Perine 32 (Soph)
Joe Mixon 20 (RS Fr)
Rodney Anderson 24 (Fr)
Alex Ross 28 (RS Jr)
Daniel Brooks 34 (RS So)
Defense
4-2-5
WDE (7)
Erik Striker 19 (Sr)
Devante Bond 23 (Sr)
Ricky DeBerry 22 (Fr)
DT (3)
Charles Walker 97 (RS So)
Dwayne Orso 99 (RS Fr)
NT (1)
Jordan Wade 93 (RS Jr)
Matthew Romar 92 (RS So)
Neville Gallimore 90 (Fr)
Marquise Overton 98 (Fr)
Courtney Garnett 50 (RS Fr)
SDE (5)
Charles Tapper 91 (Sr)
Ogbonnia Okoronkwo 31 (RS So)
Matt Dimon 94 (Jr)
DJ Ward 87 (RS So)
Isaac Ijalana 80 (RS So)
SILB
Frank Shannon 20 (Sr)
Tay Evans 9 (RS Fr)
P.L. Lindley 40 (RS Sr)
Arthur McGinnis 50 (Fr)
WILB
Jordan Evans 26 (Jr)
Dom Alexander 1 (Jr)
Curtis Bolton 18 (RS Fr)
LCB
Zack Sanchez 15 (RS Jr)
PJ Mbanasor 2 (Fr)
Dakota Austin 27 (Jr)
Antoine Stephens 5 (Fr)
SS
Ahmad Thomas 13 (Jr)
Kahil Houghton 8 (Fr)
FS
Hatari Byrd 4 (Jr)
Prentice McKinney 24 (Fr)
Will Sunderland 21 (Fr)
RCB
Jordan Thomas 7 (Soph)
Stanvon Taylor 6 (Jr)
Marcus Green 14 (RS Fr)
NB
Steven Parker 10 (Soph)
Will Johnson 12 (Soph)
Thanks!!
You’re welcome.
Not necessarily an accurate up-to-date depth chart, but certainly a good example of who’s competing at which positions. Nevertheless, I think it’s 80-90% accurate as a depth chart.
Looks pretty good 76
Thanks!
Well, whatever errors notwithstanding, it was much appreciated.
You’re welcome.
I think Alvarez will start. Not really sold on Derek Farniok
LOL!
I am the opposite on both after the spring game. Farniok looked polished and Alvarez got whooped bad by Romar.
everybody gets beats now and then. hahahahaha
True.
Bent backwards from the waist up and shoved into the backfield repeatedly is a bad look, though.
you must have watched a different spring game than me
I doubt it, I watched it several times and once just to watch the line play for each side. Would reverse and watch plays over. I was shocked at Alvarez, his technique seemed good but he appeared to be lacking upper body strength.
im watching it now hahaha
The sequence I am talking about is later in the game in a goal line setting.
easy old man. I just got thru first 4 series. been hit in the head too many times hahaha
LOL!
So have I, but it is the one area where you can’t hurt me.
At least it gives you something to look for.
hahahaha, work and looking at the spring game is hard to do. I have to watch my back.
At what position? Is he going to beat out Nila, Danley, or Darlington? I don’t think so, but I certainly think he will be in the rotation inside, as will Alex Dalton. Both got tons of reps in the spring.
there is a reason why they are trying Nila at RT. Get the best 5 out there.
Yes, it appears from the pictures and videos that they are trying him there. If Nila moves permanently to RT, then Alvarez or Dalton would start at RG. Dalton is 2nd team at RG.
However, that doesn’t mean Nila would start at RT, it could mean that he would start there if Farniok got hurt.
According to who. They haven’t made a depth chart available to anyone yet.
According to me. I keep track of every piece of information (videos, pictures, TFB comments, articles) to comprise a spread sheet and keep it current. Not perfect, but pretty good. KJ liked it, and he has lots of inside information, to which I am NOT privy.
I say lets wait until they actually have an actual depth chart from the OU coaches.
Works for me.
It was requested by another poster.
You just don’t like it b/c it doesn’t agree with what you wanted to see. I get it.
It seems to me to be a good discussion so far.
I think they requested one from K
So what. The ones posted on the OU website aren’t even remotely accurate and won’t be posted until the week of the first game.
This is just for discussion, but apparently you are very butt hurt about it.
listen don’t act like that. IMO I think will Alvarez start. Your opinion he doesn’t. That’s cool. I have no dog in the fight but don’t say im butt hurt.
I don’t mind that you disagree with me or that anyone disagrees with me. However, after people disagreed with you, only THEN you started complaining that the unofficial “depth chart” shouldn’t have even been posted. It was already posted and a good discussion ensued, your comments included.
dude, good list and I will leave it at that
Thank you, my friend.
hemi, This entire thread is about bits of information and speculation. I don’t think anyone is predicting an official week one DC right now. It goes without saying it’s a fluid situation. I’m enjoying the discussion. I’m excited for the official DC but until then, lets keep speculating. : )
That’s the point, to encourage discussion about who is playing at what position, who MIGHT be starting and who is challenging for PT. I think it’s been a great discussion.
A number of people have disagreed with parts of what I posted and I think that’s great.
Thanks for posting that. Must be a ton of research and everything. It’s appreciated
I would like to see Paul at either guard, not tackle. He’s a road grader.
Probably a tweener Tex. I believe they like his length at tackle.
I understand, I just like his girth and mass in the middle. He road graded to make Fournette famous, I want to see him do the same for our RBs.
It would be kind of ironic if he made Fournette famous in high school and Mixon famous in college considering they were the #1 and #2 rated RBs coming out that year ( as I recall )
It could happen and I encourage it.
count me in on that as well
Don’t think Farniok is starting at this point. KJ quote:
“Farniok has already been supplanted by Samia, and since Samia has been pulled up to the 1s…” see above.
That’s pretty much how it is. As of right now: Nila Danley Ty are starting, Dalton and Alvarez are real busy backing up the interior. Farniok has already been supplanted by Samia, and since Samia has been pulled up to the 1s, Nila has gotten almost zero reps at RT. Ford is also starting to make a push because of the need for depth inside. Still alot of camp left though anything could happen.
Thanks. I will change it.
Anytime 76, like I said still alot of camp left, things could change obviously a few times, that’s just where things are at for those guys as of right now.
Where are you hearing that Samia is starting? I was told that is not true at all.
KJ has inside information. I trust his knowledge and sources (whoever they are).
Perhaps, LR said on a radio interview Saturday, that Farniak had pretty much nailed down the position. That was then, and perhaps this is now.
Its not a huge issue Dave, like Hemi eluded to this isnt the “actual” depth chart, 76 just put together a pretty good comprehensive DC for TU who wanted to get an idea of what the position competition looks like. I just added my two cents of what I know. Samia may be getting the starting reps (right now) but it’s still not anything solid as far as starters and backups, the lineup is still far from decided as far as the tackles are concerned imo. Makes for some good competition in camp though.
I agree with a lot he put out there. When is the last time they started a true freshman OT?? Trent Williams or was he a redshirt
KJ, thanks for the note on Samia! I’m going to ask about that as well.
If Samia is playing with the 1’s as a true freshman thats a big WOW!.
I know it might be saying more about Farniok than Samia but still Farniok is a senior and has at least been serviceable when put in games.
That’s exactly true FTM, I dont think Samia is next coming of Anthony Munoz or someone like that, it could just be as things stand right now, he may be playing a little more consistent than Farniok. He’s smaller and has no where near the experience, but his head may be 100% in it and is making less mistakes that’s all.
KJ have you heard anything on Evans? I know he’s coming off an injury from last year but really have heard next to nothing on him thus far.
Tay? I have not heard anything unfortunately, I have seen him rush the edge a couple of times on the backside during the live sessions and he looked to be moving well. I’m not sure what position they have him at though, those plays could of just been the packages they were running.
Actually I was referring to Bobby Evans at RT.
Sorry we have 3 Evan’s I should have been more specific.
Oh sorry. Yes Bobby’s been getting alot of extra work after practice and getting into his playbook. He’s been playing well and the knee doesn’t appear to be an issue. He hasn’t been pulled up to the 1s yet, mainly because they have good depth there. I think it serves Bobby well right now though, the more time removed from that injury the better.
Thanks for the info KJ
Both tackle spots wont be occupied by seniors.
Parker at SS
Johnson at NB
Why do you say that? They were last year.
They wouldn’t want both tackles to be seniors again only to be replaced next year. They will have already have to replace ty, nila, and farinok. Ideally they will have two non seniors take positions along this line.
They already said Parker is the NB bud playing that Roy Williams rover type.
Farniak is your starting RT, per Riley.
Where did you hear this? I guess his feet have improved?
This was on Saturday during a radio interview. I know that there have been several practices since then, so perhaps things have changed. I heard that Samia was taking some snaps with the ones recently, but not to read too much into that.
Okay, thanks. I mean Farniok is huge 6’9 right? I think He is a slim 320 right? I could see that he’d fit in this O as long as he can push the edge rusher wide.
I think they put the backup players–one at a time–with the 1s to see how they handle it in case they are needed b/c of injuries or to give a guy a breather. Probably a better barometer than seeing the 2s go against the 2s. So sometimes it’s hard to know when someone has been supplanted or just given a break.
You better get on your horse, Durron!
I have a feeling that the WRs are going to look like a chinese fire drill in this offense. Yes, the 1s will see more action but there will be lots of others getting in on it as well and often.
I recall when Bob’s first team with Leach as OC hit the field, folks were saying that exact thing. Was referred to as the ‘Red Swarm’.
They will all have to contribute. Expecting to run 100 plays a game.
This is true. I’m speaking more to the observation that he has underperformed while at OU. Came in with a lot of hype. Hoping he has the season we all expected him to have.
I remember being totally psyched when he committed to OU and then he played in the all star game ( Under Armor maybe cant remember ) and the pre game report on him was that he wasnt getting a lot of separation…at that point I thought “hmmmm”
The potential is there. Hoping it translates into some huge stats for him. Seems to me he’s taken the criticism well. I think he’ll be great.
Thank you sir.
Wow. Good chart. I don’t know how any fan can read this and not think we are gonna win games no matter who is named QB. Despite all the questions at some positions, to me we look young and loaded for BEAR!
All the QB has to do is take care of the ball and complete a good but not great % of the passes. Throw it to good guys or throw it in the seats.
Probably a little soon for a realistic depth chart at all positions – one can guess/project from spring and current “news,” but a “real” one maybe a couple of weeks away.
Still, go for it – I’ll read it.
Super twist! Reece Clark is Baker Mayfield 2.0 and wins the starting QB spot!
Lol.
M. Night Shymalan in the house!
For anyone that cares: these numbers could be made up I don’t know found all stats for the 3 on the yahoo/rivals all sr year in hs
Cody Thomas completed 63.3% of passes for 4,154 yrds 46 TD’s 6 INT’s
Baker Mayfield 65.3% for 3,788 yrds 45 TDs 5 INTs (very similar to CT)
Trevor Knight 54% 2,092 yrds 27 TDs 3 INTs
Obviously many factors could play into this. Not sure how good the competition levels were and TK9 played a different style offense (Seeing he is a Dual-Threat QB) but we all saw what TK9 is capable of doing (Sugar Bowl) they are all capable of being THAT guy and I can’t wait to see who wins the job and leads us to where OU should be
I would play start CT the others are turn over machines
Based on the last two years can’t argue with you.
How does anyone know what CT would do if were asked to actually throw more than a dozen times in a game? It was all Perine when CT was at QB.
The problem with that is if CT struggles, the coaches look REALLY bad.
I trust Stoops and Riley to make the “right” call based on what they are seeing in practice. Both want to win and be successful. They aren’t going to put a QB out there that hasn’t shown he gives OU the best chance of winning out of the 3.
If that is CT, so be it.
look, squirrel
I believe I read Knight also ran for 900+ yards and like 15 scores on the ground his Senior year which alludes to the comment about a different offense but yea kid can play.
not sure how everyone feels about the guys on the Rush sportstalk but theyre saying theyve heard a lot of good things about Prentice at safety
Matt, when I hear about a FR safety excelling early, the name I hear is McKinney, not Haughton. Several SR defensive players have singled him out. Super K, what are you hearing about Prentice?
K reported earlier that McKinney and Sunderland are at free safety and Houghton is at strong safety.
I understand that, my point was just that several players, Striker and Tapper, have spoken very highly of McKinney, while omitting to mention Haughton.
Sorry, that’s not how I read what you posted.
Prentice and Kahlil are both doing a lot of good things. They know their assignments and they are both long athletic guys. I’ve heard Haughton is the favorite of all the young safeties though. But they definitely like Prentice.
Do you see a possible scenario where McKinney and Haughton are both starters by mid-season?
I am not Super K, but I speak in the regards that I think they would be hard pressed to make starting lineup, unless injury or big time dog house. If I was a betting man I’d say Manabsor at CB and then Haughton would be the next to start @Safety somewhere. Just IMO, also FWIW Parker will be a stud for OU this year.
If our returning starters at safety don’t get better, I could. I have been VERY disappointed in the play of Byrd, and to a lesser extent Thomas.
A couple of questions guys:
I can’t vouch for accuracy but I was told that a high school coach watching Mixon put him in the same sentence with Joe Washington. A bigger version…..Is that even remotely true?
Does anyone have a feel for how the QB competition is progressing?
You know how Perine gets raves for being stronger than you can imagine?
Mixon seems to collect raves for being more elusive than a guy his size should, by all rhyme and reason, be.
Thunder and Lightening?
Play-action is going to make some defensive folks look challenged.
I can see them doing all sorts of things with these two. Can you imaging sending Perine through a hole as a lead blocker? There were LB’s last year negotiating for hazardous duty pay for having to try and tackle him.
funny, we just have to go back one year when there were more than a few clamoring for Perine to be a fullback anyway.
No kidding!! Very few times I’ve ever seen a defender not be aggressive trying to tackle but I saw this alot with him. Crazy…….
A couple looked they were think if they were hoping that if threw themselves under his feet maybe he would slip on the blood.
Pretty much.
I actually laughed out loud, no hyperbole, when the Tennessee defender didn’t even attempt to wrap up Samaje a play after getting trucked by him. He just kind of lowered his shoulder and went, “Oh God, please let this slow him down.”
lol I second this.
Probably something like that — except that Mixon is bigger than your usual “lightning” type of back.
It’s crazy to have two freakishly athletic dudes in the same backfield.
I think people undersell how much of an asset this can be. If you have to brace yourself in the hole 4-5 times on the first drive for a Mack Truck coming, then you start getting used to that, only for the next carry to be a guy that gets to the hole and shakes you, that can wear on a team mentally.
I know tackling is tackling, but if you are trying to tackle Perine vs trying to tackle Mixon, you might go about it a bit differently. Definitely will keep the D on their toes, and hopefully they’ll spend time looking to see who is in the backfield, and that will take away from time they should be getting lined up, getting their calls in, and getting mentally ready to defend the next play.
Imagine the various reactions by the D if either Perine or Mixon split out or go in motion. The potential for brain cramps is astounding.
Im half expecting Mixon to split out or go in motion more often than not.
I expect he will often. Having LBs in chase mode with the play behind them is a sight I want to see.
Yup and farts as well:-)
and what if Trevor were QB and were turned loose to run the ball a little?
If the DBs are all running down field, the LBs are chasing RBs out of the backfield and the field opens in front of him he could eat up a lot of yards.
I’m starting to think that Joe will and should be used like Percy Harvin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzyoYCm5QVo
I like it
I think that makes a good nickname for the duo… “Rhyme and Reason” Mixon dances like a Rhyme, Perine smacks you like Reason.
Done.
To the first, I like it. To the second…… I like it haha.
Suffice it to say, whoever starts on OL week 1, there are some young bulls like Samia and Ford who are pushing for #1 team. Coach Bedenboom is saying the youngsters look good ‘but may need more time’. A lot of raw ability but they have to learn to play together and guys like Farniok have ‘been there’. Things could change by the week and all will see time.
Just imo, I think the guy who is going step up is Orlando. The kid is just so massive and he really impressed with his feet. If he can play with minimal mistakes I think he may be in for a breakout year at OL.
I certainly think he’s due to start in 2016 and get plenty of PT this year to get ready.
Forgot about him but haven’t heard much mention of his name so far. You hearing anything?
Only thing that I’ve heard is that he had a little bit of a rough start to camp but now he’s really making a legitimate push for that starting spot.
We have tape on Farniok. He contributed a little as a R-Fr and was very raw, operating on athletic ability and instinct alone. His R-So year was his first under Bedenbaugh and I saw improvement. Last year he didn’t get much playing time, but after watching him closely in the spring game his transformation after three years with Bedenbaugh is remarkable. His body position, use of hands and footwork was outstanding. No one got around him or bull rushed him.
I totally agree with all that. I think the issue is the mistakes he’s making. Could just be him trying to get used to the new scheme. But he may just be making more mistakes than Coach B can handle right now.
That’s why we have summer camp, to learn and train. In Bedenbaugh I trust.
How can you not trust that face???
http://www.wvusports.com/images/bedenbaugh-bill2.jpg
Or irritate it.
Would not want that face in my face too often.
Whenever I see that pic of Bedenbaugh my head screams out NORM!!!
Derek Farniok, 6’8″ 339 lbs.
He is exactly 11 inches and 164 lbs heavier than me. Thus, yes. I am happy to provide copious complements to and about him under any circumstances and respond to him with “Yes, sir.”
Coach B is the most valuable of all the assistants. His offensive lines and his adjustments (i.e., Bronson Irwin at RT vs Bama) are always spot on. The man can flat out coach. Maybe the media has questions about our OL, but I don’t.
Who keeps throwing all these picks?
Who is letting TE’s catch long TD passes?
Why does Mead have to make a one handed catch?
Why cant our D line stop these RB’s?
Did I cover everything?
I’ll give you the answer to those questions, Mr. Bender, next Saturday.
No offense fellas, but I want insider info on these issues from Stephen Dale please.
Saying “no offense” before offending is bad form. :-0
My source told me it was the QBs that threw all the interceptions.
hahaha. you forgot who keeps putting this crap on the field? why can’t we have someone younger than moses coaching lb’s? why can’t we have a coach who can recruit lb’s? why can’t we have nice things? and how many people can i put down before my life has meaning?
I think we are doing pretty good the last two years on linebackers. Not sure what the complaint is there?
This whole conversation is having a little fun at our empty glassers expense. I’m probably one of the most positive people on here and if you haven’t noticed will defend those who start to get roasted by those who need to take a peek in the mirror
That’s why you’re my man, BoomerSooner. You’re an all-round cool cat. For you: “Let’s Cool One” Thelonious Monk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9HgXWvhiKs
You can’t have it both ways.
sarcasm my friend…….
Uh…think it was.
/zing
I turned on ESPN to see McCownan’s fatt butt and Shawn Jokeman’s overrated butt. AgainI swear, my disdain for Baylor is right up there with Texsa and OSUcks.
That’s why it’s so important to put em back in there place in there house college game day is going to be there can’t afford to lose to em 4 out of the last 5.
Let’s hope. In Waco (gross).
Dimitri Flowers interview
http://newsok.com/ou-football-qa-fullback-dimitri-flowers-adjusting-to-faster-offense/article/5439782/?page=2
Nice interview, encouraging even.
Hey Brainiacs, will you be posting notes on the QB competition Friday? I think we are all really salivating for some QB information.
Not sure if you saw yesterday’s practice notes but there is a QB only post up. It’s pretty good stuff I must say so myself
Are we recruiting Tre as a DB? Just saw his sophomore highlights kid can FLY I know speedy receivers have been emphasized for this offense so my wheels were just kind of spinning. Kid is a heck of a DB so I understand either way.
I say play him both ways. Let him run short screens and fly routes and then play FS.