Open Post | Monday, Sept. 21st

Jordan Thomas: There has been quite a bit of speculation about what has led sophomore CB Jordan Thomas’ suspension in part or in entirety of two games already this 2015 season. In the past we’ve made a point no to report on things of this nature, but due to some of the ridiculous things being said about Thomas we felt compelled to say something in this particular instance.

After speaking with a couple sources about the situation, Thomas’ most recent transgression was missing a team activity late in the week. There is no academic or drug issue, or anything of the sort. – (Super K)

Devwah Whaley: As most of you know the 2016 RB is expected to take an official visit to Oklahoma for the TCU game. This past summer he told us that he plans to announce his commitment at the Under Armour All-American game in January. However Whaley also told us that prior to his announcement he plans to give a ‘silent commit’ to the coaching staff of the school he would be choosing.

TFB’s Andrew King spoke with a source who said that the UGA visit went well…really well. We haven’t been able to confirm through two sources whether a silent commitment has happened but we get the unambiguous impression that even if a commitment hasn’t happened, Georgia jumped to the number one spot for Whaley.

At this point we are under the impression Whaley will still take his official visit to OU, though as is always the case with recruiting, things canchange. We also get the impression that if there is a school that can change things for Whaley, it is Oklahoma. But as of right now Georgia seems to be the clear leader. – (Andrew)

Tyrie Cleveland and Ed Oliver: As we noted over the weekend in the Open Post, 2016 WR Tyrie Cleveland (Houston, TX) and his teammate 2016 DT Ed Oliver were expected in Norman for official visits this weekend. The two did indeed make it, however we have not had a chance to catch up with them just yet to see how things went. I suspect getting too much information out of either will be difficult, but over the next day or so I’ll be checking with some sources close to both to see if OU was able to push things at all in their direction.

If nothing else, it was clear OU certainly put their best foot forward in recruiting the pair. If you need proof, below is a tweet Cleveland put out over the weekend with a video of the Sooners throwing him a birthday party at Bob Stoops’ house following the Tulsa game.

https://twitter.com/Tyrie_1/status/645384745572896770

541 Comments

  • crazyb says:

    First? Wow.

  • LLAdamJ7 says:

    My big fear with Whaley is that he knows he can be utilized more at Georgia. If I were in his shoes I’d want to go where I can be the focal point of an offense.

    • Jordan Esco says:

      And possibly OU’s o-line performance thus far as well, IMO.

    • JR says:

      Perine (JR) Mixon (RS Soph) Brooks (SR) Ross (SR) Anderson (RS FR) maybe he wants to see the field earlier. He would come in and not redshirt (based on past history regardless of current depth) but might want to see the field more early and be more of a focal point.

      • hOUligan says:

        Would think the likelihood is high that OU has Perine 1 more year, 2 for Mixon. So depth is good for next year but beyond that… It’s not too late to get another good back lined up and go all out getting a top back next cycle.

        • JR says:

          Absolutely, just something to point out. I think it will be easier to get a 5 star RB for the 17 class than the 16.

      • Dailen says:

        Mixon is a Freshman… (RS) Freshman at worst, but since he technically wasn’t a part of the team last year. I think he’s just a Freshman.

    • Cush Creekmont says:

      TYPE of offense might be a bigger issue. Playing behind older, great backs could be a scare, but playing in an “I” power offense in a similar “run oriented” conference might be the appeal to him. Being “featured” in an offense might be also.

      I see little difference to pro team evaluations since they would be able to see him run in either offense and pass block and receive more often in a spread.

  • Jim says:

    Funny how at one point it was thought Whaley was already silently committed to us. Recruiting is a crazy process…

  • CT2 says:

    Thomas missed practice Friday and it was his second time missing.

    • Jordan Esco says:

      Fri is walk thru, not a true practice, I believe, fwiw.

      • Brad Warren says:

        That’s still ridiculous.

      • Rick says:

        Jordan, there was a piece on FSSW before the game on Saturday. Stoops said he had changed Friday practice to a more detailed, full practice (he did not say pads or not), because of the Chip Kelly study on “what works”.

        • Jordan Esco says:

          I saw the report from Bruce Feldman during the Tulsa game and I thought he said it was as you described, but more walk thru related type deal. Is that not correct?

      • CT2 says:

        I just know someone at practice and that’s what they told me. But still I will never understand missing anything like that, especially being a college athlete I don’t understand it.

    • Super K says:

      You are correct. But as Jordan said, it was walk through from what I’m told.

      • CT2 says:

        Regardless if it’s a walk through or practice. That’s stupid to miss. Especially at OU. If any of us had the chance he has to start at OU I would be doing everything right to play. No matter how boring it is. It’s pathetic to give him any excuses and I know you’re not, but if I was a coach and he misses an easy walk through just goes to show how much passion and love he has for the game. Just sayin’

        • Jordan Esco says:

          +1000

        • Super K says:

          I think your language is far too strong. I made more than my fair share of mistakes when I was 19 and missing a practice (training session in my case) was prob least of them. I’m glad I wasn’t judged so harshly.

          • CT2 says:

            Nah, I’m a college athlete and would never miss practice. It’s stupid too. Unless he was sick or had an excuse to miss then that’s different but he wouldn’t be suspended if that was the case.

          • Super K says:

            Cool. Sounds like you’re above reproach.

          • CT2 says:

            No it’s doing the right thing. Lol

          • boomersooner says:

            Wow. You seem like a real hoot

          • SoonerfanTU says:

            Missing something as “ordinary” as a walkthrough, when you know you might not get to play if you do, is pretty stupid.

          • boomersooner says:

            Good gracious people. It’s a mistake. He’s paid his due. Let it the hell go

          • CT2 says:

            Are you serious? Everybody gripes about ou not being elite and blah blah blah, how the coaching was bad. Well they can’t get coached missing practice. So he gets a pass for missing practice at OU?? If you didn’t call into work and just missed a day for no reason I guess it’s okay. Boss should say no biggie you made a mistake by missing work. Yeah that’s idiotic. You’re a moron. Btw this would be your second missed day, since it was Jordan’s. Lol

          • boomersooner says:

            i’ve read all your crap. so, let me start. it seems as tho you’ve finally got off mamas tit long enough to get a different brand of attention. 1st i’ve played a sport professionally. so your little “i pway in cowege” is a big who gives a damn in my book. 2nd i’m not a teenage dumbass who thinks he’s got everything figured out. 3rd if you think you’ve never made a mistake you can shove that right up your ass. 4th he didn’t get a pass numbnuts he got suspended for the game. do us all a favor:
            1. shut your mouth
            2. beat it
            3. grow up

          • CT2 says:

            What’s your name and I’ll look you up then professional. And pros don’t take days off and miss practice for no reason. I’ve grown up. I’ve been there, I’ve been to where I didn’t want to go out and practice and play while it snows but I had to. Why? Because it was the right thing to do, it was best for me. Suspended one game for missing practice is weak. Lol so weak. You didn’t play professional or you wouldn’t be okay with that.

          • boomersooner says:

            cool story. i am so terribly excited you shared it. you definitely don’t need my name. you haven’t grown up or you wouldn’t be on here throwing stones at someone for a mistake. you are a POS who thinks he’s better than people and can never do no wrong. wow, you never missed practice. so that’s makes you a POS who never missed practice. that’s pretty much it.

            i am ok with it. he did the crime, he did the time. its the coaches call. and if his teammates don’t think its enough and they tell the coaches so, then it could be more. its definitely not your call and i can thank God for that

          • CT2 says:

            Haha okay. The professional is right ?

          • boomersooner says:

            that’s the 1st thing you’ve been right about

          • CT2 says:

            Well your philosophy is dumb and I can’t argue with stupid people.

          • boomersooner says:

            my philosophy? what about you? some punk ass kid who thinks he’s never done anything wrong. you wanna lynch the kid for missing freaking practice. “we talking about practice.. not the game. not the game. practice.” i’m simply letting the man who makes that decision handle that decision, not allowing dumbasses on message boards to run the team. now how bout you get back to me when you’ve grown up. until then, i’m good

          • CT2 says:

            You got it all wrong. I’m saying, that it goes she show where football is on his priority list. Me for one, would kill to play for ou, I’m Jordan Thomas, I am doing everything right to be the best. But you’re saying it is okay to miss practice and get punished?? The player that works his butt off and doesn’t do anything wrong is the guy I want playing. Not the one that misses walkthroughs and misses a game and then it’s okay cause he is 19 and dumb. That’s not an excuse when you’re the starter. I’ve made mistakes, I’ve wanted to miss practice, but I never missed no matter what. It’s not hard to go to practice, the hard part is to put in the work. Reason he hasn’t played well this year. Lol

          • boomersooner says:

            that’s a good post. seems grown up.i don’t condone missing practice. i just let who needs to handle it, handle it. of course i would rather him be there with his teammates and do what the team is doing. another reason not to judge is we don’t have all the info. why’d he miss? i don’t know. hopefully he gets his butt back out there and earns trust back

          • CT2 says:

            Exactly, I’m not saying what bob did wasn’t enough. I’m saying on Jordan’s part it’s dumb.

          • boomersooner says:

            yessir. it was dumb. it just sounded like you were jumping all over him earlier with a judgmental outlook. glad we cleared this up

          • Rene Goupillaud says:

            sorry, but he’s a starter and his responsibility to be there is higher. If it’s his second offense, the doghouse or going home could be next.

      • Matt says:

        I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the secondary. I really hope it wasn’t as bad as many people thought.

  • hOUligan says:

    If nothing else, OU recruiting staff did everything they could to make the best impression possible on Cleveland and Oliver. You think a surprise birthday celebration at Bob Stoops ‘palace on the prairie’ won’t be something he’ll remember for the rest of his life?

    • Cush Creekmont says:

      Boy, everything and then SOME! Think about what a staff is asked to do – Gameplan, practice, keep 90 young guys motivated, attending class, teaching the game plan, teaching position play in general. AND THEN recruit 24/7 – a surprise BD party for a (as in ONE) recruit right after a game while continually contacting a hundred or so recruits over three class-years. I get tired just writing it out.

      • hOUligan says:

        And don’t forget the constant social media when you aren’t ‘doing’ all the other things you mentioned. It is mind-boggling.

      • Jed says:

        It’s not dissimilar to the juggling act any high level executive has. Bob earns his money…and so does his staff. There may be better out there, but this crew is pretty damn good.

  • Maverick says:

    Recruiting is so bizarre.

    • Exiled In Ohio says:

      Yeah, I thought Whaley was a done deal, especially after George got a commit from another top back.

      I wonder if the air raid is going to hurt RB recruiting.

      • Fear The Magic says:

        It shouldnt hurt RB recruiting if our RBs keep going for 130 + yards a game like Samaje did this weekend.

      • Payton Glen Guthrie says:

        I was under the assumption that OU led because of the air raid. He plays under a system like this currently in High School.

      • Maverick says:

        Yeah I was mostly referring the whole B-Day party thing.

        Can you imagine any other scenario where a 50 year old man would sing happy birthday to a 17 year old kid (on a day he’d probably much rather be with his family)?

        Bizarre. I feel bad for college coaches when I see this stuff.

  • Matt says:

    How did Farniok look at guard?

    • Zack says:

      Slow start. First 2 possessions I think there were some communication issues which isn’t a surprise but after that, I didn’t notice anyone on the line which is good because if I notice the OL it’s probably not good.

  • soonerjunky says:

    Got to be honest. Sanchez struggled just as bad as Mbanasar or Green. “Big play Sanchez” makes a big play, or gives up a big play. Players like Sanchez, Gabe Lynn, Julian Wilson are road blocks for younger guys to get playing time and get better. The D will be better when he’s gone.

    • Dailen says:

      I’m sure that’s why Julian Wilson made an NFL roster…

    • Zack says:

      I wouldn’t blame Sanchez I would blame the scheme. Sanchez was matched up on a 6’4 220 WR. I bet PJ would have player better on him and Sanchez on the other side.

      • soonerjunky says:

        Couldn’t have been worse. Unlike last year, I believe the players were actually in position to make plays. Just got beat. I think they were a lot closer to slowing the spread than before. Optimistic

    • Tipman says:

      He looked injured to me. Did anyone else notice a slight limp?

    • Maverick says:

      Disagree. The guy has a knack for big plays. You prefer we lose now and hope the young guys get better? And then they become the “road blocks” the next year? Best players play.

      • soonerjunky says:

        Didn’t say he should be replaced. He’s just enough better that he plays, but not by much.

        • Maverick says:

          Not sure how the defense would be better without him if there’s no one better than him on the roster now?

          • soonerjunky says:

            I thought Marcus Green played better than he did. Seriously, he makes big plays. He also gives up big plays with his soft coverage and lack of ability to tackle.

          • Maverick says:

            Sanchez wasn’t great by any stretch, but he’s clearly our best guy. Also haven’t seen him miss that many tackles. Soft coverage is a scheme issue, not a player issue.

            And the fallacy of the backup being better is just that. A fallacy. Marcus Green is not better than Sanchez.

          • soonerjunky says:

            Sanchez is our best CB, I agree. Saturday (1 GAME) Green seemed to be the best to me. He tackles well. Sanchez played too soft and Mbanasar was in position to make plays, but wasn’t quite ready.

          • Maverick says:

            Agree to disagree, lol. Either way, we need to get way better in the secondary ask the way around to compete in the Big 12.

          • soonerjunky says:

            Yes, and like I said I think we are close. A lot closer than last year, that’s for sure. Just need players to make plays.

          • Rene Goupillaud says:

            Their best on our best was either a loss or a tie. Their #1 was big and fast. He have Sanchez all he could handle. Now Sanchez was hobbling a bit at the end. The kid played hard and wasn’t the reason we have up so many points.

            Rather, poor communication and bad alignment by Thomas as well as bad technique by P.J. We’re major contributors. I’d also highlight Dane Evans who is a darn good Qb.

          • cpearc00 says:

            I believe he’s saying the younger guys appear to have higher ceilings than him, and I tend to agree.

          • Maverick says:

            I mean I guess that’s just an opinion, but based on what? Recruiting hype?

          • cpearc00 says:

            Based on where they are at this point in their careers compared to where he was. He’s undersized to get matched up against bigger WRs and I don’t believe he’s that great of a tackler. Better than previous years? Yes, but that’s not saying much.

          • soonerjunky says:

            cpearc00, we are on the same page. Sanchez is just not physically capable of matching up with big recievers. He is about 160 lbs and a tackling liability. He does a good job of covering, but has match up problems. Ask Kevin White if Sanchez is any good

          • Brad Warren says:

            Nobody in the country could cover White. Sanchez is very good.

          • EasTex says:

            Here is the Sooners roster link for the 5’11” 179lb Sanchez.
            http://www.soonersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=208409634&DB_OEM_ID=31000

          • Maverick says:

            Again I’ll just have to agree to disagree. But Marcus Green is behind where Sanchez was at the same point in his career for the record. Sanchez started as a RS Fr. Also, Marcus Green is even smaller than Sanchez. So that argument is no good either.

          • cpearc00 says:

            I wasn’t specifically referring to Green as I think PJ and Thomas have the better upsides, but your point is taken. For the record, I do think Sanchez is the best we’ve got at this particular point, but, all in all, i do think our secondary should be better overall once he’s gone.

          • soonerjunky says:

            Shorter, not smaller. If Sanchez could gain 15 lbs, my opinion is it would make him a lock down corner. He just isn’t big enough. The whole situation is my opinion and I may be completely wrong.

          • Maverick says:

            You are, lol.

          • Walter Sobcek says:

            That extra 15 pounds could cost him a bit of quickness and speed, though. Good technique can compensate for less size and strength.

          • Rene Goupillaud says:

            So why do we recruit them? I suspect they can play or we wouldn’t. So what is it, lack of reps, lack of experience? Sanchez is quick, not fast. But look at Taylor, Austin, and Green. All small, but we must have thought they could play. Don’t get much of an opportunity. I think the point raised above is worth thinking about.

          • Recondo says:

            His size has always limited his tackling but he looked really good tackling against Tenn. It’s tough to be the #1 CB at that size when so many #1 WR nowadays are 6-3, 220. Maybe he should play against the slot. He could play aggressive and matchup physically with his guy a lot better. Then we could play big on the outside. Problem there, of course, is the experience gap we would have on the outside.

          • soonerjunky says:

            Size, speed, hype, and opinion.

    • Indy_sooner says:

      How is it on Sanchez to play 10 yards off his man? We know exactly what his limitations are but he’s also not superhuman. Even from an eternal optimist like me, DB play was atrocious.

      • soonerjunky says:

        I agree with you, sort of. He did play tight coverage at times. I think his lack of size/strength is his problem. It would help him with getting out muscled and pushed around. Might even help with tackling. (gaining weight)

    • Brad Warren says:

      I may not be a smart man but……

  • Swanny says:

    Made a highlight of the linebackers through the first 3 games. May be the best 4 we’ve had together: https://youtu.be/7xvVRAH7ve4

    • hOUligan says:

      Saw #s 19 and 23 a lot. Who are those guys? s/k And that ep block by Predator was crazy!! Thanks!

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      Okay. But where were they when the Tulsa back was running for 167? We cannot have the second tier playing in space outside the box unless our D line is dominant.

      • Swanny says:

        I think more than anything this game exposed the one flaw in having Mike up in the box. Those extra seconds getting a call relayed were costly. Also, he was down in the end zone for the last possession of the 1st half.

  • Randy says:

    We need Sean McGrew and Moe Neal in this offense next year..

  • rphokc says:

    LT poster re bu coach on tu sideline…….”Crap, now Baylor will know how to move the ball against our defense.”

    fwiw, @CareyWWLS: Lebby, a former player and student coach at OU, was recognized by several people including former Sooner J.D. Runnels

  • BoomerDave says:

    What’s up with Robert Barnes attending the UT- Cal game last Saturday instead of coming to our game with Tulsa? Doesn’t he know he’s committed to the Sooners? Thought Reggie would have taught him better than that.

  • Jeremy Phillips says:

    Bob did say they expect JT at practice today & to play next week..

  • Golfluvr13 says:

    Anyone else heard about this anywhere? If true, this is a big no-no!

    http://newsok.com/article/5448357

    • Brad Warren says:

      Just more evidence of how shady Baylor is –

    • Maverick says:

      Is there any other evidence other than a few people thinking they recognized him? Gonna look like we have tinfoil hats on if it was just some poor bastard that looks like him.

      If it was him, just cements my feelings towards Briles.

      • JR says:

        Briles called Stoops after the game to apologize for it so yes he was there. At least 2 of his former teammates recognized him and have said so.

        • Golfluvr13 says:

          Just saw this:

          • Jofield says:

            IF he was only there for one quarter I would find that suspicious. If he had no bad intentions… who watches a game for one quarter from the sidelines and then leaves? Someone who is afraid they just got caught?

          • Maverick says:

            I’m inclined to believe him, but he’s right about the perception. Hopefully we kick their teeth in and everyone forgets it. If not, I really hope no one uses it as an excuse.

            Still have to play the game on the field. We have time to adjust our signals if that’s the concern.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            Absolutely agree with you!

          • SamSooner says:

            I don’t believe him because his answers are evasive: “Maybe a quarter, I’m not sure.” Did you ask him how long he was there?

            If there’s not an advantage, why is he there? Why don’t you know where he is? It’s game day. He should be on your sideline.

          • SamSooner says:

            Here’s a chance for the media to ask some tough questions of Briles and I bet you they won’t.

            Why was he there?
            Did you ask him why he was there?
            Why wasn’t he with your team?
            Why didn’t you miss him?
            Why was he wearing TU gear?
            Are you going to discipline him?
            Did Montgomery know?
            Who on the Tulsa staff was aware of his presence?

          • MoJoOkie says:

            A lot of people are saying there is no advantage to being on the sidelines. If that is the case, why risk the perception of integrity to do it? Otherwise, I agree with your list. Cheating is cheating whether you gain advantage from it or not.

          • SamSooner says:

            Most of us bash the OU coaching staff. But never once have they been accused of anything unethical.

            I will never be convinced that Briles didn’t know about this.

            Edit: I agree with you: why take the risk of poor perception if there’s nothing to be gained?

            At the very least, fire the dumb a** for doing it and tell your daughter to divorce his dumb a**.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            May want to qualify the first part of your comment with “under Stoops.” Whether Switzer was actually guilty of a lot of the things they said, he certainly was accused of a number.

          • MoJoOkie says:

            I never remember him being accused of specifics, only that he was crooked. Might have been a little fire mixed in with that smoke though, lol.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            Switzer did a lot of things that weren’t technically against the rules. He typically went right up to the boundaries of the rules but not over. Some of those things later were made against the rules. It’s not always easy to figure out with Switzer what the reality was. But He was still accused of unethical behavior which was my original point. I think a lot of it was he made some enemies in the old guard by recruiting black players. I know Darryl Royal hated him. There were probably several others.

          • MoJoOkie says:

            Yeah I remember the talk before we played Penn State in the Orange Bowl. Barry was the evil and Joe Paterno was the saint.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            Funny thing is I heard an interview with Paterno, probably in the ’90s, where they asked him about Barry. He said he had a lot of respect for Barry because he was able to help a lot of players that Paterno never would have been able to because of his situation at Penn State. Always thought that was an interesting take.

          • MoJoOkie says:

            I remember some time after the game Paterno saying that he respected Barry.

          • SoonerOracle737 says:

            I saw a tv interview with Paterno where he directly accused Barry of cheating. He later apologized for it though. But still.

          • Maverick says:

            Being a little naive if you think Switzer never broke any rules. Seriously? The guy’s an absolute hero and a legend, but let’s not act like he did everything by the book.

          • MoJoOkie says:

            Agreed, and again if nothing stood to be gained, why would you risk your name by doing it?

          • Katyboomer says:

            Baylor bye week

          • BoomerDave says:

            Montgomery is the one who left him the credentials for his sideline pass. I have hink I read that Briles’ daughter was on a he sidelines as well.

          • SamSooner says:

            Shut the front door. Are you kidding?

          • SoonerfanTU says:

            I disagree that there is no possible advantage.

          • Fear The Magic says:

            Translation: Yes we cheated and Im really sorry that you caught us. In the future I’ll try to cheat in a much more clandestine way.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            Exactly!

          • Slim Sooner says:

            This sounds like bull crap to me. People had to have known. Tulsa and Baylor both knew it was a rules violation and did it anyway. Obviously the guy wasn’t invisible over there, so neither team expected to have serious consequences. Regardless of whether it’s a scouting advantage or not, both head coaches owe explanations better than the one above and both programs should be punished by NCAA. Probably nothing happens to either, unfortunately. I’m glad Coach Stoops doesn’t pull this kind of stuff.

          • Walter Sobcek says:

            Briles had a very rough childhood, and I appreciate how he overcame it. But geez, I think this guy would stop at nothing to win.

          • Herman Bubbert says:

            If you don’t understand fully what’s going on at Baylor now, then you’re not paying attention.

          • hOUligan says:

            Bill? Is that you??

          • SoonerGoneEast says:

            Bulls*** he’s embarrassed. It’s not possible to be embarrassed if you have no shame.

        • Maverick says:

          Thanks. Hadn’t seen that.

    • rainydaze114 says:

      Baylor is shady, but this doesn’t really seem like it would be a huge deal. Everything Baylor would need to know about the game they could find out from just watching it. I don’t see how someone on the sideline would gather that much more intel.

      • Golfluvr13 says:

        Each team is required to send game tape of all the previous games to their opponent, along with formations and who is in the formation. I do not understand why they would do it either, but it is a rules violation.

        • Bob Edwards says:

          Perhaps trying to pick up signals or other things not on the tape.

          • rainydaze114 says:

            Still seems minor… unless he had a video tape set up or something. Otherwise he’d have to be unbelievably gifted with memory, which I doubt.

      • SoonerGoneEast says:

        I disagree, if there’s no advantage to seeing the players perform in person then why don’t coaches just recruit from game tape? If there’s no advantage to seeing the players perform in person then why does the NFL have players work out rather than just draft based on stats and game film?

        I’ve been to an awful lot of football games, I always learn more in person than I do on TV.

    • jdub says:

      Jeff Lebby is Art Briles’ son-in-law. How did he NOT know where he was going to be this weekend?

      • Sooner Ray says:

        Because he’s lying.

      • rainydaze114 says:

        Thank God my parents-in-law don’t know where I am all the time. 😉

      • Golfluvr13 says:

        Yeah, I said that on a Sooner football page on FB and got slammed for saying it. But he is a coach on the team, you tell me what team has a bye and all the coaches are leaving town for a weekend, and none of them tell the head guy where they are going?? Nope, it does NOT happen.

        • Jed says:

          Much less this season with Baylor eyeing a Conf title and perhaps a slot in the playoff, you’d expect it to be pretty much all hands on deck 24/7 until about Jan 15. This is perhaps Baylor’s one and only shot at national glory. You’ll endanger that because somebody’s got to get a last round of golf in before the weather turns?

      • BoomerDave says:

        I think I read where Briles’ daughter was on the sidelines as well.

  • Sooner_Ace says:

    🙂

  • Exiled In Ohio says:

    So, has there been any update on Baker’s appeal to get back a year of eligibility?

  • Walter Sobcek says:

    As most of you probably know, espn concocted a “Football Power Index” as a clever way to mask its favorotism for the sec. in this week’s rankings, 1-4 are, surprise surprise, sec teams – including bama, who just lost at home. OK, that’s my sec rant of the week. I’ll try to let it go.

    • Malicong says:

      No need to let it go, it is a fun topic!

      • Walter Sobcek says:

        Thanks. I was beginning to wonder if my fixation was becoming unhealthy.

        • Barbara Honeycutt says:

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  • Stephen says:

    Cleveland > Whaley if I had to pick and worry about getting one. Georgia is known for featuring backs as much, if not more than us. If he thinks that’s where his best chances of success are then more power to him. On the other hand Shep/Neal is gone next year with nobody showing the potential to be the new number one or two yet.

  • DonL says:

    Long time reader, first time poster. Really enjoy this site, material and commenters alike.

    My question is, what happens to Baylor now that it’s been confirmed that one of their coaches was on Tulsa’s sideline this past Saturday? By itself it probably wouldn’t seem like a big deal, but when added to all of their other shenanigans recently, could the NCAA come down in them?

    • Golfluvr13 says:

      Welcome aboard! BOOMER SOONER

      Art Briles has already admitted that it happened, and said he notified the conference and the NCAA. I would imagine they will make it so this particular coach cannot have any official business off of the campus for a year? Just a slap on the wrist.

      • Jofield says:

        Yeah, basically the assistant is going to take the fall as though it were a one man show. He’ll suspended for a game and that’s about it. I don’t think there is enough evidence to connect it to anything else.

        • Katyboomer says:

          If suspended for a game it should be the whole week of practice and OU game. That would be some what fitting for the crime. Don’t think it will happen though

        • J J says:

          Funny that this comes on the heels of Kendall Briles being suspended etc last week… I’d say yes, where there’s smoke there is fire..

      • Bob Edwards says:

        Generally the NCAA is OK with things when you self report and discipline the offending party. However, enough of those add up and you start getting into “lack of institutional control” territory. That is by far the worst thing the NCAA can label you with. Doubt we are there yet. But it could happen. Also depends on who your friends and enemies are.

        • Golfluvr13 says:

          Very true Bob!

        • Cush Creekmont says:

          Yep. If texsa recovers from its AD coma and finds out Baylor pulled anything on the mighty state school, they may get I-35 diverted around Waco.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            Yeah, I don’t get the impression that Baylor is a political power within the NCAA. They are actually the kind the NCAA has loved to go after, successful program with relatively small fan base. You can whack them hard and not piss too many people off.

        • Stephen says:

          The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Hey, Texsa!

        • Exiled In Ohio says:

          Depends on if Briles knew ahead of time. Break the rules, get caught, then self-report.

        • DonL says:

          I agree with you, but what is considered “enough”? There’s the sexual assault cover up, two coaches suspended for recruiting violations, now this. That’s quite a few things in a short period of time. The NCAA should be looking a little closer now, but it’s doubtful they will.

      • Jeff says:

        He should be suspended for the OU game

    • Jordan Esco says:

      Welcome!

    • SamSooner says:

      First, welcome aboard. You will like it here.

      Second, in regards to Baylor, if were up to me, those kids would have to prepare for every game without coaches until after the OU game. When I say prepare, I mean game plan and all. That’s cheating with an attempt to gain a competitive advantage.

      Who does that crap?

      And penalize Tulsa while you’re at it.

      • Soonerfandave84 says:

        i bet Tulsa bears the brunt of this

      • j l says:

        What can you do to tulsa? There has to be a law for it to be broken.

        Baylor coach on the sideline is a scouting violation, and they(or the coach) will be punished.

      • Rick says:

        It’s very unfortunate because of the past relationship with Tulsa. I don’t know, but I would suppose the Tulsa admin would not be pleased if there was collusion between the UT and BU coaching staffs. Briles is already under suspicion for the Boise State transfer convicted rapist and his alleged previous knowledge, and his unabashed arrogance and demeanor, now this. Does “where there is smoke…” apply here?

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      Welcome

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      First I’m hearing about this.

      And some of you thought I was crazy for suggesting OU held stuff back on defense. It’s a cut-throat game.

    • Stephen says:

      Welcome, sorry about Stephen Dale.

      • metzker says:

        Classic

        • Stephen Dale says:

          I had my blue Tulsa shirt on….wonder who turned me in ? my father in law ( Art Briles) and my boss said I should learn as much as I could about OU tendencies, athletic talent, scheme changes, etc so I asked Phil Montgomery for a pass. What else could I do ? Risk straining my relationship with my wife, in laws, and fellow coaches at Bayor or turning my back on Coach Stoops ? I decided to spy on OU because I like my high paying job and don’t want to have any family problems with the Briles or my wife ( their daughter ) ….so I hope you guys understand my dilemma …hopefully when Coach Stoops pulls the knife from his back, he will , too…

    • SamSooner says:

      You sure got the TFB board going with your first post.

    • BleedCrimson says:

      Welcome aboard

  • Big Higg says:

    Saw a couple wearing tfb boom shirts at the game. My wife and I wore ours last week it was cool to see another couple wearing them.

    • h-townsooner says:

      My GF got us the boom soon pair for our 1 year anniversary to go along with tickets to the TTU game this season. The fact that she’s an aggie makes it even sweeter 🙂

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    I thought we were doing walkthroughs on Thursday now, and practicing on Fridays. Is that not what the announcers said on tv? Something about the college body responding better that way. Or did I misunderstand?

  • Matt says:

    From Lehman’s radio show: Lehman spoke with the BU assistant who was at the game the night before the game. Teddy said he asked the guy what coverage/defense gives their offense the most trouble. His reply: “Crowd noise. It doesn’t matter what coverage you’re in we just want to go fast and the only thing that slows us down is crowd noise.”
    Maybe OU fans should start cheering for the team they supposedly root for and
    quit bitching at the first sign of resistance from the opposing offense. Maybe
    they need to quit being fair-weather fans and actually start rooting for the good
    guys. I wasn’t at the game so I can’t say from my perspective but from what
    those guys said, the crowd was as quiet as they are at a spring game.

    • rainydaze114 says:

      Fair weather? I don’t know about that… 100 straight home sellouts is pretty impressive. It’s hard to cheer and get excited when your defense has been getting shredded in one way or another for nearly 5 years though.

      • Matt says:

        I guess I’m coming at being in the stands from a different perspective then. I went to Texas A&M and although I have been a lifelong OU fan, my time at A&M shaped my view of watching college football live and in person. Their view is that the fan is another participant in the game. You’re there to help your team win, not to clap when something good happens. I guess the crowd just views the Sooners as being out for their entertainment.

        • Prof27 says:

          I think it’s fair to say that OU fans are pretty spoiled. A little demanding, even. But a lot of folks in that stadium have been season ticket holders for years or even decades. They’ve seen a lot of great football over the years and they aren’t particularly forgiving when the “product” on the field doesn’t come close to the hype. Is that a good or bad thing? I don’t know. (I’m glad I don’t have to stand the whole game like folks at A&M do — my knees couldn’t take it.) But I do know this — OU fans WILL reciprocate good play with strong support. I’ve seen plenty of games in that stadium when the noise has been deafening.

        • tsou89 says:

          How’s that working out for them? No conference championships in decades and no NC’s in my lifetime! oh well.!

          • Matt says:

            So I guess you think the team is there for your entertainment? That’s not even being a fan. That’s being an audience member.

    • Walter Sobcek says:

      11 am starts don’t help. Try playing at Death Valley at 8pm when those Crazy Cajuns have been tailgating since noon. THAT’s a homefield advantage,

      • Matt says:

        yeah. thankfully we don’t have to play there. I’d actually take our defense against LSU though. Mike loves to play against that style of offense.

      • Rick says:

        It is called “Death Valley”

        • Walter Sobcek says:

          Indeed. And I’d like Owen Field to become known as the Den of Doom. The Field of Nightmares. The Gridiron of Grief. The Grass of Kick $##. Well, you see where I’m going with this…

    • BigJoeBrown says:

      so you weren’t at the game…….

    • Tucker says:

      I was at the game. It was pretty lame in terms of noise and fans didn’t finish filling the stadium until after kick-off. So ya I can see what you’re saying.
      I was also at the 2008 Texas Tech @ Oklahoma game though. Vast difference in sound and atmosphere. However, vastly different implications at the time.

      Last note… Defensive play calls were coming in incredibly slow. There were several times that the Tulsa snap beat the defensive play call. Not trying to knock Mike Stoops, but that’s not the fans fault.

      • Matt says:

        ah ok well thats something that I can see being an actual problem. On TV though it looked like TU was just going too fast to get the call in.

        • Tucker says:

          Ya, a little bit of both. But add a little miss alignment here and there and/or late to proper position by the DBs (trying to confirm the call) would leave an uncovered Tulsa receiver now and then.
          It’s really just minor things that need to be addressed. I kinda wish they would play a little more to deny inside leverage (inside technique) with the DBs. But then again I’m not on the field with these kids everyday and don’t have an assessment on how well they can flip their hips and run after a solid jam.

          • Matt says:

            yeah I saw some inside technique some Saturday trying to force guys to the sideline. I keep thinking back to 2012 when OU won. It seemed like the strategy was to just line up and play man across the board with safety help. They gave up a million yards on the ground but THEY WON. Maybe they should try that again since OU has an offense that can keep up now.

    • Maverick says:

      Agree that the fans can be better, but the guys on the field have to help out a bit. Can’t rely on the crowd to win big games. Tennessee’s fans stayed loud cause their D was dominating most of the day.

      What an arrogant dude saying crowd noise was all that could stop them. Put the pipe down.

    • Fear The Magic says:

      Really sad to hear that the crowd was that quiet. That must have really impressed Cleveland and Oliver.

    • Slim Sooner says:

      I’ve been to many games in Norman and the crowd has always been pretty loud. Doubt if it was bad enough to hear crickets! I bet most of the fans that show up to the games do cheer loudly and aren’t of the fair-weather variety just based on my experience.

  • Jason Vos says:

    Not as highly recruited but time to go after Samaje Perine’s cousin

  • Tucker says:

    ESPN reports it was Jeff Lebby, the Baylor passing game coordinator, ex-Sooner Student Assistant, on the Tulsa sideline. I guess Art Briles supposedly called and apologized to Stoops. Apologies if this has already been posted.

  • George says:

    Thoughts on the Baylor coach on the Tulsa sideline during the OU game? Personally, chalk it up as another shady move by Briles & company

  • pag says:

    I wanna ask, why dont we have more run plays of the “I” formation? I mean it seems to me like Samaje and possibly Mixon need the initial burst of speed to be more effective.Furthermore we could use more play-action pass and use Andrews more.Not an expert so i would appreciate an opinion.

    • Jofield says:

      I formation puts QB under center and is not conducive quick pass plays. Isn’t the pistol like a cross between shotgun and I-formation though?

      • Jofield says:

        Actually the pistol doesn’t use a fullback so its not really like the I. Anyway it does give some chance for the HB to get going downhill though.

        • pag says:

          They seem in my opinion to be more efficient under the pistol rather than the shotgun

        • Sooner 4Ever says:

          Nevada, or UNLV or somebody, is running the pistol with a fullback and calling it the rifle. I saw it in a west coast time zone game opening weekend.

    • Stephen says:

      Air Raid

      • Daddy R says:

        Yea, but LR has shown the I-formation a couple times in the opener… So, we def have it, just a matter of using it, or apparently “not” using it. I would certainly like to see it at goal line, then play action out of it..

        • Stephen says:

          True, I’m guessing it’s also a matter of not showing all your cards at once as we still haven’t played a conference opponent. That said, I liked the group on the final TD of the Tulsa game. 3 big WR (Andrews, Green, Miller) and Flowers, Perine in the back field.

    • boomersooner says:

      but you didn’t just “leave a credential.” you dudded him up. these apologies seem pretty freaking brutal. “uh, uh, uh, uh well uh, he was only there for uh, like uh, a quarter or uh something.” i can’t wait til you’re SMU

      • Rick says:

        I’m sure someone will be verifying the wedding, time and date, why the UT duds, etc.

        • boomersooner says:

          i’m thinking they’ll just say oh it was nothing and they’ve already done what they should with the apology.

          while all the rest of us are looking at it as another blip on the radar and Briles will probly pull off a Carroll and take off for the NFL if they even want him

          • Rick says:

            The OKC media is making a bigger deal out of the fact OU was hosting 2 top Houston recruits on Saturday, that also had a Baylor offer, this apparently is a bigger infraction than he being on the sideline. Montgomery is probably in the clear with his explanation, but what if Lebby inadvertantly bumps into the recruits while on their official visits in Norman.

          • boomersooner says:

            oooh. the plot thickens. me likey

          • Slim Sooner says:

            How come this is a bigger deal, Jason? We showed the recruits a strong offensive effort that can use a few good receivers after Shep and Durron are gone and a defense that needs talented players, plus a WIN. Maybe both came away thinking they can succeed here! And they got a party! Sign em up.

          • SamSooner says:

            What is he talking about with that mushroom head he has?

          • RBear says:

            Why would hosting two recruits who hold offers from Baylor be an infraction?

          • Rick says:

            I don’t know. I was following some of the tweets, then these with Kersey started a conversation, and there was some discussion of infrations of some sort of recruiting violations. It’s kinda hard to look some of that stuff up also. To your point, I didn’t see anything in print of stories this afternoon that stated any other violations, just some of the OKC media discussion of the possibility.

          • boomersooner says:

            its an official to oklahoma. why is baylor there? what if he sees them and chats them up? what if we had coaches with signs outside other teams stadiums like the chickfila cows?

      • Slim Sooner says:

        Well, Coach might accept the apologies and attempted explanations from Briles and Montgomery, but I don’t know. He seemed kind of disgusted at the presser today. Guess we will see if anything comes of it if violations people have been notified.

        • boomersooner says:

          yeah i hope they have a ledger going at the ncaa and keep tabs of all these misdeeds. and Bob should be pissed. you went to all this trouble to get him on the sideline. for what? signals? i’m thinking we probly swap em out for each game anyway. to get an eye on if we go vanilla or play something different from when we faced you last yr? i don’t wish harm on anyone but if Briles fell in a well it wouldn’t hurt my feelings

        • Doobie74OU says:

          Don’t worry I am sure Art Briles will handle this and suspend Leddy for a game against Kansas in which they have no earthly chance to loose like he did his son last week for that weak team they played!

    • ColoradoSooner says:

      That dog don’t hunt.

    • eastoksooner says:

      We need names of the people getting married. Kinda like the “flat tire” excuse in high school.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      This is starting to smell worse than summer road kill.

    • Cush Creekmont says:

      In the future because of this questionable behavior, Montgomery can get Baylor to play Tulsa instead of OU…oh, wait. Baylor won’t play anyone at Tulsa’s level.

      Looks like their next big payday will be…an AWAY-and-AWAY series at Oregon with all PAC officials.

    • SamSooner says:

      Yeah…about that wedding, I’m going to need someone to vouch for that. And what wedding: most people don’t get married on Sunday. Saturday is the preferred day, usually in the afternoon.

  • Kevin says:

    Could Castiglione cancel all OU-Tulsa sporting events for the future? No amount of apologies are probably going to satisfy the fan base, especially given the amount of dirt being dug up. Might be hard to cut ties with Baylor without splitting the Big 12, but Tulsa is out-of-conference…

  • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

    I say we beat the mess out of Baylor, and then may the NCAA hammer fall. I don’t want any excuse from their whiny, goofy fan base.

  • Kevin says:

    Must be a slow day when it seems like most of the comments on the Open Post are about crazy things happening on other teams…lol

  • Felix Fuentes says:

    Why hasn’t OU offered Kyle Porter?

  • Maverick says:

    So I re-watched the game. Couple things…

    1. Our OL stinks. Even on some of the successful running plays, it was Tulsa being atrocious, not our OL making great blocks. Good news is they can only get better.

    2. Defensive philosophy has to be re-evaluated. At many times on Saturday, the best possible defensive play we could make was tackling a Wr for a 6-7 yard gain. That just isn’t good enough imo.

    Pass rush is ineffective against that system when we are giving them easy pre snap reads. I’d rather see us drop 9 and cover and make the QB beat us with his legs than let him complete easy passes.

    3. Give their Offense a lot of credit. They’re very good at what they do. They run block well and their skill players were on par with ours.

    4. Mayfield had his best game by far. He stayed in the pocket for the most part, made his reads, and found the open guy often. Hard to say how much was TU being bad, but he made the plays that were there, that’s all you can ask for.

    5. I’ll probably get blasted for this, but I still think we are a year away. This is a 3-4 loss team at this point. Obviously hope I’m wrong here, I just don’t see it. OL is a mess and the defensive scheme just isn’t going to stop people often enough in the Big 12. Even if we play our scheme well, the plays for opposing offenses are still there. Hoping we adjust. Looking at you Stoops brothers.

    Boomer

    • Brad Warren says:

      What defense is going to stop us?

      • Maverick says:

        If our OL doesn’t improve? Maybe a few. Besides, averaging 35 against TT, WVU, OSU, Baylor, and TCU might not be enough to win a few of those.

        • Brad Warren says:

          You are definitely not a very confident fan. I can tell this team has an edge that didn’t exist last year. They weren’t all fired up Saturday but it’s 45-10 at half without the 2 fumbles.

          • Maverick says:

            I’m confident when I feel there’s a reason to be. Unfortunately I just don’t see it with this group. I’m with you on the edge though. I think our players do have a confidence that they may have lacked last year.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    We need to move on from Whaley or at least offer the next best back. This OU RB U. Need a back in this next cycle.

  • EasTex says:

    Too me, what really sucks is after all these years we still have the zombie genre.
    Well, if they won’t just go away(as they should have once Romero perfected the genre), then I might as well join in with a well acted, terrifying scene.
    https://youtu.be/9IlRAMIFt1w

  • Walter Sobcek says:

    Watching tonight’s MNF game makes me an even bigger college football fan. Halftime. I’m going to rumble aorund the freezer and see if there are any tater tots buried in there.

    • EasTex says:

      I’m watching some old episodes of Fantomworks on Velocity and thinking about those Braum’s Fudgcicles in the freezer.

    • Brad Warren says:

      I’m watching Everybody Loves Raymond, King of Queens next. Have seen them all a million times. I don’t gamble and aren’t a fan of either team so just can’t make myself watch.

    • Golfluvr13 says:

      That will leave a bad taste in your mouth. The NFL is a joke to me. There is very little passion involved. That is why I love college football.

  • Jason Vos says:

    The best way to stop Baylor imo is to play 2 high safeties at all times with the safeties supporting the CB’s with the outside receivers. That way they cant go deep on you.

    Then just hope your Dline and LB’s can stop the run. I’d rather they try to run us to death than throw us to death. We have a deep Dline that can rotate out if tired.

    But dont bring the Safeties into the box to help with the run. Just leave them up high especially more with the outside receivers.

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    • Sooner Ray says:

      Briles has something to do with this. 🙂

    • EasTex says:

      So, checking that weekends schedule, Texsa vs tcu at 11, baylor vs taco tech at the Death Star is on at 2:30p.m. on espn. At 3p.m. we have KSt at Stoolwater on FS1, and no other Big 12 games on any channel after that.

      • Sooner Ray says:

        I think Fox is afraid to go up against prime time sec games. If OU was to become the flagship of the conference and ranked in the top five again, I think they would put us in a tougher tv ratings spot. But what do I know, I’m not a tv executive.

        • EasTex says:

          So the huge ratings for the game with the vols was due to so much interest in…the vols? The execs at Fox need to grow some yarbles.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            I know, doesn’t make sense. I read on another site that OU brings in good ratings for Fox in that time slot but come on, we can’t be the only option for 11:00.

          • EasTex says:

            Seriously, KSt and Stoolwater at 3p.m.?

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            Or that! LOL! I guess I should have read one more comment before I ran my mouth. But I’ve always been good at running my mouth.

        • Golfluvr13 says:

          Wasn’t the OU/Tenn game the highest rated E$PN football game in the last 5 years? I do believe that is what I read.

      • SoonerGoneEast says:

        You may recall, but several years back they were shoving the 11 o’clock game down our throat every week until BS and JC spoke up about it. Not only is it harder on the players, but the stadium never fills up until after kick off on those games and it’s bad for business in Norman.

    • rphokc says:

      have heard several times that the norman merchants are getting hit by the 11am’s

      • Sooner Ray says:

        I heard complaints about the fans not being loud enough last weekend…..what do they expect when people climb out of bed to go to the game?

        • rphokc says:

          I hate 11am’s just b/c it’s too early for football and most any sport ……not in the mood yet and that’s for tv,……….way back going with my dad to the games ko’s were at 130p almost exclusively

          • Sooner Ray says:

            I hate cracking open a drink before noon…..don’t get me wrong, I’ll do it, just hate it a little at first. 🙂

          • rphokc says:

            not your fault, you were forced

          • Gary Robbins says:

            Do like me. I’m on Eastern time!

          • Sooner Ray says:

            Hey Gary, what are you doing on Eastearn time? You’re supposed to be holding things down on the hill.

          • Maui Sooner says:

            I live in Maui which means 6am kick off time. Since I don’t get Fox Sports 1 I have to do a predawn road trip to see the 11am central games.

          • Boomer4life says:

            Bloody Mary’s…is one way to go…

          • Walter Sobcek says:

            Yeah, the Mary is good way to ease into the morning.

          • Walter Sobcek says:

            At first.

          • J J says:

            Its “only” a 2 hr drive for me from the south, but then you figure all of the road construction, traffic & parking.., I left at 6:30 & still was only at the concession area about 1020 ( and I park IN the stadium garage) walked up to my seats as the band was playing Oklahoma. So those complaining about people walking in after kickoff can try to do a little better 🙂

    • SamSooner says:

      Is it too late to reschedule the kickoff time?

    • rphokc says:

      ut will probably be 11 also and won’t be the last one

    • SoonerGoneEast says:

      I was considering going to this game, but not now. I live too far away to get in the night before and make it in the stadium by 11:00. I could do it, but it just sucks the fun out of it.

  • Jeff says:

    Looks like Georgia does not have Whaley as there #1 back they want

  • JD says:

    Farewell

  • EasTex says:

    The Texsa-Cal game is on til 11(Fox College Sports Central, think I will turn it on at 1045 to see the finale.

  • rphokc says:

    from os, how it was way back……….

    “Here’s how it was back in about 1965. ABC game of the week. Notre Dame at Michigan State at 1:30 PM. Take it or leave it. Before the game, Bud Wilkinson would use his wooden pieces to show everyone the Sparty and Irish offense/defense. Then the game. The entire band halftime show was telecast; sometimes part of the pregame. Then all the scores around the country which meant every game such as “in the east-Dartmouth 28, Cornell 14; Slippery Rock 32, Indiana of Pennsylvania 21″
    And every game around the nation began about 1:30-2:00 in the afternoon. Ah, the good ole days.”

  • Randy says:

    We need as many JC corners as possible… http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2536955/jamaal-burgess

  • Bill Holder says:

    At one time some were considering DW a lock for us, even a silent committ. Was that false info, or did something happen, other than a trip to Ga?

  • Jeremy Phillips says:

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