Open Post | Thursday, Jun. 30th (UPDATE 3:57 pm)

Team Note | Jordan Thomas: We are aware that OU cornerback Jordan Thomas was arrested early Thursday morning. However with situations like this it’s easy to jump to conclusions, so we’re hoping that offering some specifics will help to provide context as to what led to the arrest.

To be perfectly clear, as you would imagine there is still information coming in as to the events of Thursday morning. That said, here is what we can share at this time.

* Thomas was out with a friend and had been drinking.

* Thomas’ friend got into an altercation with the staff at the establishment where the two were hanging out.

* Thomas involved himself in the altercation and ending up putting hands on the bouncer at said establishment.

* At some point Thomas evidently fled the scene after which he was picked up by the authorities.

As one would expect, the coaching staff is going to gather all the details and make a decision about any potential punishment. And while this behavior clearly isn’t appropriate, from what we’ve been able to gather it does not sound like this will result in any dismissal from the team or possibly even a serious suspension. The sense we get is that this could be something handled internally (i.e. quality time with Schmitty), though a suspension for the season opener against Houston cannot be ruled out at this time.

Now that is of course dependent on what, if anything, else the coaches are able to determine in the coming days. But we will let you know once we have that information.

Clearly this isn’t Thomas’ first ‘incident’ with respect to his time in Norman, be it legal or otherwise. But we feel it important to again offer some context. One previous incident was for a simple unpaid tickets, while the other was as a result of missed practices. Which isn’t to excuse that behavior then or now, rather to state none of the known offenses are particularly egregious with respect to any number of kids in college. – (Super K)

– UPDATE (3:57 pm): Baylor’s Rivals site has confirmed, what Brandon broke five days ago, that 2016 DE Brandon Bowen has requested to be released from his NLI. As we previously told you, OU is a strong contender here.

311 Comments

  • SoonerCindy says:

    I trust Stoops to handle the situation well. He always has.

    • Mark_in_VA says:

      I do too. That’s why I expect JT to be somewhere between long-term doghouse and gone, but if he’s not then I know it is justified exactly because Stoops can be trusted.

  • GrandeBass says:

    You’re letting your team down, Jordan. You’re better than this!

  • Jed says:

    Summer time! Can’t wait for practices to start.

  • Jeff says:

    No way he gets kicked off the team

  • Jpsooner23 says:

    June was bad. July tomorrow.

  • cush creekmont says:

    Much thanks Jordan and K! The “event” as described above is a little more understandable. Now, going forward Mr. Thomas – for YOUR sake more than OUr team’s, don’t drink and come home early.

  • OUn8v says:

    We’ll see.

  • Tim A says:

    Damn it JT!

  • Sooner Ray says:

    Glad it was a somewhat minor situation, could have been much worse. Still want some of the young secondary guys to push hard.

  • hOUligan says:

    Seems trouble continues to find JT. Was he not committed to Northwestern before flipping to OU? A man has to demonstrate that he is dependable; co- workers/ team mates have to feel that they can depend upon you, no matter how much ability or talent you possess. Guy has to mature.

    • soonerguy421 says:

      When I saw this kid flipped from Northwestern, I figured he would be smart enough to stay under the disciplinary radar…not the case

  • Fear The Magic says:

    Anyone else reading that Sanchez was involved in this as well?

    • MikeyBoom says:

      I was told Sanchez was there but had no involvement. I was also told Sanchez left as soon as the crap started. Don’t know how accurate this is but it’s what I was told

      • Fear The Magic says:

        None the less I just read a funny comment on Zak being there.

        “Holy Hell, Sanchez finally hit someone”

        • OceanDescender says:

          This man begs to differ on that comment haha.

        • Mark_in_VA says:

          That’s slanderous!

          For all we know, he rolled back first into the guy’s shins 馃檪

          (Just some fun. I love all the guys who represent OU positively as Sanchez has done.)

        • OUgrad82 says:

          that was funny!

      • Super K says:

        I can’t confirm that. Sanchez name never came up in any of my conversations but you obviously could be right. I just don’t know.

        • MikeyBoom says:

          Or I could obviously be super wrong in this case I hope I am lol didn’t mean to make this seem like he was for sure there. I was just reporting what I was told by someone who always tells me things that majority of time come out to be true.

      • Birddawg says:

        Shouldn’t he be in Carolina for his training camp?
        They just stared two days ago…

  • SoonerMagic76 says:

    Thanks for the notes K. Glad to see it’s nothing too serious. The secondary was set to be a strength, even with replacing Sanchez. If Thomas were to be suspended, that position goes from a strength to a question real quick. Glad to hear it seems less bad than it could be

  • ND52 says:

    I feel better now having read this.

  • BamaSooner#12! says:

    I vote for quality time with Schmitty.

  • Jeremy Phillips says:

    Pay the fines, Run steps, get ready for Houston… Nothing to see here..

  • cush creekmont says:

    I must agree with K about Thomas’ transgressions – “none of the known offenses are particularly egregious with respect to any number of kids in college.”

    Also Zach Sanchez – you wanted to leave Norman early, so maybe you should leave and go about your business and not get your former mates in bad situations.

    • Super K says:

      Just to be clear I didn’t hear anything about Sanchez being there at all. I’ve seen someone else with a similar comment and I’m not sure why people are assuming Zack was even there?

      • cush creekmont says:

        Okay. It has been on several sites – I was not there, so I sure don’t know. If he was not, my apologies to him.

      • OohRah Mama says:

        Someone done “seen it” over on LT.

        *smh*

        • MikeyBoom says:

          I seen it on Landthieves after I heard from this person who told me. If you are trying to throw shots at someone throw them someone else.

          • Super K says:

            It’s all good Mikey. Let’s not have an altercation here. One in Sooner nation is enough for today 馃檪

          • MikeyBoom says:

            Haha amen to that. God it seems like July is dragging and it hasn’t even started lol I wish we could fast forward time into September lol

          • OohRah Mama says:

            Actually, I should clarify. I was poking fun at myself for assuming something just because Sanchez was mentioned. I should know better than to assume. Usually I do better. 馃槢

          • MikeyBoom says:

            Btw K, that comment was intended for OoRah not at you lol

          • Fear The Magic says:

            Good thing you clarified that Mikey. You almost got suspended from posting here for the Houston game.

    • JB says:

      However, there is a pattern of bad judgment since he’s been here.

  • OohRah Mama says:

    Again I’ll say: 2:45 a.m. Dorm. Apartment. House. Hotel room. Bed. Behaving. Representing positively.

    Not a difficult concept to grasp nor follow.

  • Scott says:

    Do you guys think we should suspend Thomas for the Houston game?

  • Dustin says:

    September can’t get here fast enough.

  • LandThieve3 says:

    Did Thomas get suspended for any games last year?

    • Super K says:

      Yes for half the opener and for the Tulsa game. Both for missing practice.

      • LandThieve3 says:

        Don’t know if you can consider this new incident worse than missing practice, but one would think the coaches are started to get fed up with JT; therefore, resulting in at least the same punishment as previously.

  • jonnyBgood says:

    It’s always prudent to wait until all the facts are in before jumping to conclusions. Best case, he made a poor decision and gets some ‘Schmidty Time’. Worst case, some young bucks are going to need to step up in a big way. JT has pro written all over him and I hope he can right the course and end up fulfilling his immense potential both in Norman and the league. Fingers crossed things work out for all parties involved! Boomer.

  • KJ1123 says:

    How many news outlets are on here here poaching this info? smh

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    After reading this, I agree, this may or may not result in a 1 game suspension, but that is probably worse case, unless something else happens. For the most part, his troubles have been small potatoes over the years. Hopefully this serves as a wake-up call.

    • PLAW0720 says:

      I think you make him do about 30 straight Oklahoma drills against Perine and multiple OL’s followed by another 30 min of gassers, and finish with running stadium stairs.

  • j l says:

    Backing your buddy up always better than starting the altercation yourself, at least from a PR standpoint.

    Glad it wasnt as serious as it sounded in the daily, thanks for the update.

    1 game suspension against ULM sounds about right =)

  • DCinAZ says:

    Meh…..this happens every week on campus corner.

  • DCinAZ says:

    Meh…..this happens every week on campus corner.

    • ouwooferman says:

      Never forget my Frosh year, we were at Dallas the dancing Palace in Norman. There was an OU wrestler (120 lbs or so) got in to it with a O Lineman for OU and we all went to the parking lot to watch it unfold. The wrestler ducked the only punch thrown, took him down by the legs and road his face and chest across the Parking lot. Still can see it today.

      • Soonerbred says:

        Haha! What year was that? I may have known the wrestler.

      • ME says:

        Happened to a guy in about 1988 as well at the Fiji thing. 3rd team OL/DL and the wrestler was a HS 140ish pounder from Union, I think. I went to HS with the OL/DL and I have no doubt he deserved it. I’m just sad I missed it.

      • Stephen Dale says:

        we observed the same last October in the RRS……one team did the drubbing ; the other got turf rash all game long. maybe the reverse will happen this fall….

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    Fleeing the scene is where the cause of the interfering charge is coming from? That’ll be dropped at his arraingment

    • Jed says:

      Probly the physical contact with the bouncer. But you’re right, it’ll likely go away. Hands on a bouncer is not hands on a cop.

      • Bob Edwards says:

        And hands on the bouncer could mean everything from him trying to keep the bouncer from hurting his friend to trying to hold the bouncer while his friend hit him. A lot comes down to the details.

        • Jed says:

          Is there film? Otherwise bouncers’ words don’t count for much, considering their well earned reputation for enjoying beating the hell out of bar patrons.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            Lack of evidence might keep him out of jail but may not keep him out of Bob’s dog house. I don’t think Bob would appreciate a player lawyering up.

          • Jed says:

            Definitely not. I was addressing the legal issues only.

        • ColoradoSooner says:

          Details? Did you say details? Those are kinda like facts, right? 99% of the people that comment on this site don’t need no stinkin’ details. 馃檪

    • KJ1123 says:

      There’s a feeling type catch all charge where I live and the DA HATES when it gets used. 90% of the time it gets dropped.

  • Rene Goupillaud says:

    Bob hasn’t shown a lot of tolerance for bar fights. To me the issue is what does “laid hands on mean?” Did he shove someone or slug someone?

    Quick needs to get up to speed fast. He could be the guy.

  • OklaSooner says:

    I mean, who hasnt gotten drunk and ended up in a altercation/s !?!

    But I am a homer that sees everything thru crimson colored glasses.

  • Jdizzle says:

    I will support Stoops in whatever punishment gets handed down. Most people don’t get 3 chances.

  • michael hammond says:

    Not worth keeping on team. Let him get his degree and grow up. Will be a bruise for the Sooners if he stays. You’ve got to watch yourself when you’ve had two team problems already. Best wishes but got to keep it clean.

    • Birddawg says:

      I don’t think we need to give up on him.
      He’s too young and hes been accounted as smart a dude.
      He made another mistake.
      Short leash and plenty of discipline, sure.
      But I’m not showing him the door just yet.

  • Fear The Magic says:

    I say that we all post pics of half naked women to get our minds off of this new and disturbing incident.

  • Cav66 says:

    Got to love the off-season. Lots of testosterone and very few outlets that won’t get you in trouble. Hopefully, it is no more serious than it sounds and the young man can overcome the consequences. I had a couple of altercations as a young man and managed to turn into at least a semi-respectable/productive adult and family man. No excuse for the bad behavior, but I don’t see a reason to shun the young man over a bar fight.

    • Bob Edwards says:

      Well posting on this board is prima facie evidence against being a “semi-respectable/productive adult”. But other than that I agree.

      • Cav66 says:

        I would call it proof positive of a sound mind and strong and healthy spirit if not highly productive in the conventional sense.

  • Unofficial Longhorn says:

    I don’t care what team a kid plays for, you never want to see a young man’s life derailed by a single incident, especially one that everyone was able to walk away from. I’m not saying he shouldn’t be held accountable for his actions, but I do hope it can be resolved quickly, fairly, and put behind him.

    • Cav66 says:

      Common ground again? Who would have thought it possible?

    • DCinAZ says:

      Suspend him for the ULM game and move on is what I say.

    • DCinAZ says:

      Suspend him for the ULM game and move on is what I say.

    • Birddawg says:

      Oh I’m sure Shmitty is going to work him.
      I’m guessing “5 miles” of stadium stairs with a 45lb plate every day for two weeks or
      it until his vomit changed colors..

      • Cav66 says:

        That seems like a reasonable and proportionate punishment that would make the necessary point.

      • Cav66 says:

        That seems like a reasonable and proportionate punishment that would make the necessary point.

      • Vegas_Sooner21 says:

        Ok, I know sports are tough, but never once have I heard of a punishment of that magnitude in 1 session. He will get a combination of extra Schmitty time plus some sort of suspension.

        • Birddawg says:

          JT is in shape enough to do 5mi.. probably will need more..
          Vomit changes colors thing Is more of an joke and story..
          During offseason, a guy drank blue powerade before starting.. puked blue and then he started to drink purple powerade and literally two mins.. purple puke.. Then swear to god the colors started to change..

  • Unofficial Longhorn says:

    I don’t care what team a kid plays for, you never want to see a young man’s life derailed by a single incident, especially one that everyone was able to walk away from. I’m not saying he shouldn’t be held accountable for his actions, but I do hope it can be resolved quickly, fairly, and put behind him.

  • SoonerOracle737 says:

    Bar fights happen in college? Who knew?

  • roygbell says:

    This is his third time. So, this isn’t his first and only incident. By this time in his life he should have all of this stuff out of his system. I just don’t think he needs to be excused. The team needs players that they can count on. I think he has proven that he can’t be counted on. So, maybe the coaches should find someone else that they and the team can count on.

    • cush creekmont says:

      Missed practice was his “violation” for last year’s suspension. ALL the players need to be home before 2AM – play games, chat, watch flicks, but stay out of bars.

      • ACR says:

        “Stay out of bars?”…. Did you go to college? Maybe 5% of college kids don’t go to the bars. Obviously college is a social environment. Not sure you can say “stay out.” More along the lines of “stay out of trouble while out.” There’s more than just football

      • ACR says:

        “Stay out of bars?”…. Did you go to college? Maybe 5% of college kids don’t go to the bars. Obviously college is a social environment. Not sure you can say “stay out.” More along the lines of “stay out of trouble while out.” There’s more than just football

    • DCinAZ says:

      1st offense: hit the snooze button the morning of a walk through and missed practice
      2nd offense: didn’t pay a traffic ticket
      3rd offense: got into a fight at a bar while drunk

      You’d ruin a kid’s life over these things?

      • Clint Lenard says:

        I don’t agree with Roy, but there’s definitely a pattern. I say this from experience…

        • DCinAZ says:

          Yeah he’s obviously an irresponsible kid. They usually follow a pattern of being irresponsible.

          • eastoksooner says:

            I agree. You don’t expel him for these offenses. Does he need to do better? Sure he does, but you can’t kick him off the team for this. Maybe a suspension or some hard time with Schmitty.

      • roygbell says:

        No, I wouldn’t ruin his life as he is doing a good enough job all by himself. I don’t buy the young and dumb excuses. To just excuse it is to be an enabler.

        • DCinAZ says:

          Nobody is excusing anything. I’m saying none of these are criminal acts. They’re irresponsible acts. What is he? 20 years old? Since when do 20 somethings get in fights drunk out at bars? That never happens.

        • DCinAZ says:

          Nobody is excusing anything. I’m saying none of these are criminal acts. They’re irresponsible acts. What is he? 20 years old? Since when do 20 somethings get in fights drunk out at bars? That never happens.

  • Ed Cotter says:

    Hoping for time with Schmitty, but expecting some kind of suspension since this is his third “incident’. Stoops will dole out proper discipline, so we’ll see.

  • Matt says:

    to me, I’m just amazed he could make it through Schmidt’s workouts with a hangover. (I’m assuming this wasn’t the only time he drank on a night when he’d have to work out the next day.)

  • Jpsooner23 says:

    Hey Golf, I see you’re lurking.

    • Golfluvr13 says:

      Shhhh! I’m hunting for football season!

      • cush creekmont says:

        Hey, buddy! I saw you were there, but I didn’t want to “out you.” 馃檪

        • Golfluvr13 says:

          No worries. I’ve been lurking for a couple of weeks. September cannot get here fast enough!

        • Golfluvr13 says:

          No worries. I’ve been lurking for a couple of weeks. September cannot get here fast enough!

  • Vegas_Sooner21 says:

    Well I can breathe a little easier now. Sorry for all who I popped off on earlier. This is much better news and hopefully it will only result in a 1-2 game suspension. We need him for all our games, but I’ll live with a 2 game suspension. that Ohio state game will be interesting.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Kids have to realize as a member of the team they have a greater responsibility than just to themselves. Sick of this. Losing this guy would cost a chance at the title. Why hang out with dumb ass friends? Why? JT has a shot at all-american, A title and draft status. Further, not only will Stoops drop the hammer if warranted, but the LEAGUE (NFL) does not mess around any longer. Kids that get in trouble lose draft status. Don’t tell me kids will be kids…they have too much information now a days and too many bad examples. I hope he didn’t swing or did any thing chargeable.

  • McAttack says:

    It’s time for wearable GPS devices for all scholarship athletes, sort of like a shock collar for dogs /s

    • Okie403 says:

      Sounds good but ramp it up to tazer strength. That way they drop to the ground wiggling and a team emergency response squad swipes in, collects the player and delivers him(or her) to Smitty’s lair for immediate commencement of re-education protocol.

  • Jordan Esco says:

    update added

  • T. Rob says:

    People are so quick to want to give up players who give their all to a program. Was it stupid? Yes, but if you didn’t do any stupid things back when you were in your early 20s, then you might just be the man Jesus Christ himself. Smh. Unless it’s something that is morally wrong, give him a punishment and move on. But don’t expect every kid to behave or rather make the “same” right decision in every situation, that’s when your let down. Doesn’t mean you can’t hold them accountable to higher standards then the average student. Bottom line, you have to help these kids not just on the field and in the classroom, but in life general.

    • ouwooferman says:

      ….

    • Jed says:

      T. Rob, you’re of course correct. While there are a few true ‘bad apples’ who coaches and parents need to keep their charges away from, the vast majority of kids who get in trouble are not bad.
      Chill. First, most of the negative comments you read are just people who are blowing off due to being so enthusiastic about this season that anything that endangers it gets a big reaction. Second, these folks are not going to make any decisions regarding the players. Stoops is the one who’s to do that. And he’s famously evenhanded. Stern, perhaps, but arguably that’s needed sometimes. In any event, he doesn’t seem to fly off the handle.
      It’ll be cool.

    • Daryl says:

      T Rob I agree that we all did stupid things when we were 20. I also agree with Jed Stoops has great track record of dishing out punishment to those who deserve it and giving second chances to those who deserve that. He know Thomas and the situation more than any of us.

      I think the reason you see such reaction, me included, is that he has had chances. And it’s not like his mistakes have been over a long amount of time it has all been in the last 6 months. I trust that Stoops will do what is best but from the outside looking in it is hard to not judge because of the number of offenses.

    • Tony B says:

      We have all been in situations like this or similar when we don’t do the right things. Is this immature? Yes, but hell who hasn’t done something that is immature at points in their lives. I still do and probably more than I realize. College is a learning experience. Not only in the corporate sense but in life. Most learn more from their mistakes than triumphs. Was he wrong to get drunk, be in a bar, out at 2am, run from the police, and raise hell with his friend? Yes and he should take his punishment and grow from it. Should that punishment be a removal from the team? I say no but a game suspension wouldn’t be a bad idea and hopefully wake JT up as it did last year. I don’t hold him to a moral higher ground than the next guy but his teammates and coaches will. I guarantee he is hurting right now just by knowing what this looks like to his family, teammates, and coaches. His true colors will show with how he reacts to this adversity and challenge in his life. Stoops will do the right thing, He knows more about the situations JT has been in than any of us.

    • DCinAZ says:

      I got arrested twice at his age for………..not paying outstanding traffic tickets. I got in some skirmishes at bars too during those days. These issues of his aren’t serious character issues. They’re just maturity issues.

      • Boom says:

        Heck, a ton of us got notices that said, if you don’t pay your parking tickets, you will not graduate. They got paid.

      • wolfbuilder says:

        U r spot on sir, but being the second time hope bob, gets him good this summer and makes him sit for 2 game, who knows we might find 2 or 3 cbs that can get it,

      • Coach JK says:

        I agree DC, but I don’t think we are going to like the outcome of this one, Bob don’t play around and I’m hearing he is pissed.

    • ColoradoSooner says:

      All I can say is, I’m so thankful that every bad decision I made when I was that age did not become news headlines. I would have kept the journalist’s very busy.

    • Kdl says:

      I hear ya. This is the 3rd time I know of I think he has made a mistake. I hope he gets a punishment and learns his lesson and learns to focus on football and school the rest of the time he is in Norman. Had AA potential so I hope he buckles down after this and has that type of season. Bad thing though is it gives others a reason to bash the program and hurts his draft stock. I hate seeing kids hurting themselves more than the program, team and all that. I wished more people thought about how these are still kids and realize they made mistakes that their age too. The average student wouldn’t be affected by something like this a few years down the road like these guys will be being in the public eye. Keep your head up JT!

      • OUBmrSnr72 says:

        Not paying a ticket and over sleeping for a team meeting are the two previous “serious” transgressions. If some of you want to beat SEC teams for NCs, you’re going to have to stop being so thin skinned. You can carry a stolen handgun (felony) in the SEC and not get charged…

        • D Hunter Sanchez says:

          I am not thinned skin about it. But the fact that I don’t know if BS will kick him off the team or not is the issue! I do not know if people get it but a consequence of Baylor’s blow up will be stricter policy on other schools in the conference.

        • Kdl says:

          Sorry but I’m not sure I understand what you are saying. I didn’t mean to sound thin skinned if that’s how I came off. I was basically saying I think the public is going to make a bigger deal out of it than it probably is. Idk if you were implying I said serious but I just said mistake. This one, pending the full story could be kind of serious though I guess. Also, if tr handgun & drug think happened in out program I would applaud BS for dismissing them. I care more about these kids learning how to be responsible men and not ending up in prison or something like that than a NC. It also probably makes the program look bad to parents of recruits in the future IMO. Just my opinion though, everyone in entitled to their own.

    • Oscar says:

      Why would you even read that hack?

      • SoonerOracle737 says:

        It showed in my Twitter feed. Before I clicked the link I predicted in my head what the outcome of the article would be given his proclivities for anti-common sense. And I was right! Knee jerk journalism and punishment without gathering all the facts. I guess bears never stop crapping in the woods and Hoover never stops sucking.

    • Jed says:

      never was a more appropriately named man in the history of forever.

    • LandThieve3 says:

      What makes it worse on JT is that he fled the scene when the police showed up and then kept running. Such a stupid decision. Generally people who run aren’t innocent and know they did something wrong

      • SoonerOracle737 says:

        “no charges filed”. Does that make any difference to you (or Hoover)?

        • LandThieve3 says:

          Yeah I get that. Was just speculating as to why he ran and how it looks bad. Don’t know if Stoops will take that into consideration or not

    • RBear says:

      “difficult but easy… ” whatever you say Hoov’s

    • cush creekmont says:

      If Hoover came before my “court of intelligent writing,” he would be in jail. Furthermore while there is no primary evidence, his body speaks of illegal use of jelly donuts.

  • Boom says:

    Awesome news about Bowen. I wanted him in our 2016 class from February but I will take him now too.

  • Alwaysasooner says:

    Hoover=idiot. Jordan Thomas= immaturity but most of us have been there and ive over slept for work got a couple of speeding tickets and yeah also ran from a lake park ranger for urinating beside my tent while intoxicated instead of finding a bathroom when i was around 20 and it was foolish and very immature but at 20 it seemed minor stuff to me at the time and i turned out fine and haven’t gotten even a speeding since the park ranger thing and thats been 15 years and a wife and 2 kids later. Hes a young man doing immature things. But alot of small stuff can add up.

    • roygbell says:

      No you have it backwards. Hoover is right. Thomas is the idiot.

      I hope Bob suspends him for the first two games. What coach wants a kid who simply can’t be counted on when the team needs him.

    • RocketCitySooner says:

      Small stuff. I know of two your men who paid their way through OU back in the 1920s making bootleg beer. They bottled a batch every week and sold it along fraternity row. Paid their way through college. One wound up a federal judge and the other became a high ranking politician.

      • paganpink says:

        Of course they did! But there were people that turned out to be decent citizens as well after College shenanigans!

    • paganpink says:

      Did you learn anything about the use of periods between then and now, LOL?

  • Lane Gilstrap says:

    I will be curious if Cam Robi son gets suspended against USC. If not I wouldn’t suspend JT. If they suspend him the first (whole) game then I would probably do the same. I mean being in possession of a stolen gun and drugs is worse than being intoxicated and getting into a scuffle with a bouncer, am I right?

    • SWoods says:

      Stoops has never been one to compare his punishments with someone else’s. I think he’s always been tougher than other coaches, just does what he thinks is right.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      You are not wrong, but Bob will do whatever he feels is best regardless of what anyone else thinks.

  • Lane Gilstrap says:

    Would Bowen play LB at OU?

  • Mark slavin says:

    The picture showing the charges show he is only 20 so how is the place he was at serving him liquor?

    • Sooner Ray says:

      Probably the same way I was served as under age, and the same way the thousands and thousands of college and high school kids are served now days.. I have only read that he was intoxicated, haven’t read that he was served inside the establishment.

      • KJ1123 says:

        Not trying to “out” Loagies because I enjoy going there when Im in town. But players are welcomed.

        • Sooner Ray says:

          I have no problem with that but they should “keep an eye” on them. 馃檪

        • cush creekmont says:

          Seems like a BIG can or worms for them – serving underage. Why would they call the cops for a scuffle? No charges and I doubt they want to pursue it.

      • Mark slavin says:

        Yes I did as well but with this happening there I would think they might get a fine of some sort.

        • Sooner Ray says:

          From what I understand, the establishment isn’t really involved here, other than one of their bouncers pressed A&B charges. He was apparently intoxicated but who knows when or where that happened.

  • Dan Hyde says:

    what ever happened to Bryce Youngquist?

  • MikeyBoom says:

    So I am bored as hell in class while the professor is lecturing and decided to rant about something. While I totally trust what the coaches are doing, I hate the fact that it seems like we are going with a smaller 3 man D Line. Guys like Bowen are exciting and all but I grew up with DL guys like Tommie Harris, Gerald McCoy, Dusty, Dan Cody, Jeremy Beal, Frank Alexander, Austin English, Calvin Thibideoux, and plenty I have forgotten. It feels like the team is going with lighter guys on Defenisve End who have the size of guys we used to recruit for Linebackers. I wish we could go back to a 4 man front. I think Coach Stoops excels at that. Kind of like a 4-2-5. I feel like our defensive live is going to get torched with a 3-3-5. It leaves to much space for holes to open. I feel with recruiting smaller D ends it won’t help our cause when we play teams who have big boys on the line on the ends. Now you can rip me. lol

    • DCinAZ says:

      I don’t like the 3 man front either.

      • MikeyBoom says:

        Agree. I am all for playing faster but just because we are putting more speed on the field doesn’t mean we should go lighter on DL. My dream Defense for this year would be a rotation of Walker, Lampkin, Overton , Roberts, Ward, AND Galimore based on what I’ve seen on film haha. Then at LB I would go with Jordan Evans and Tay Evans with Jordan Thomas on 1 side, Mbanasor on the other, Will Johnson at NB, Thomas and Parker at safety. I base my D line assessment on not being impressed with guys who played DL last year like Dimon, Romar and Wade. Th haven’t impressed me at all. I felt like they only played because they were veterans.

        • DCinAZ says:

          Right. “Speed” doesn’t help you in the trenches. Size and strength does. A fast defense doesn’t mean it’s a good defense and when you sacrifice size for speed, you’re also sacrificing leverage.

          • MikeyBoom says:

            Amen. The obvious speed didn’t help us vs Clemson and their run game. I forgot how much they abused us and our 3 DL group

          • MikeyBoom says:

            lol Shoot as dumb as I am in redzone short yardage situations I would go with a 5-2-4 lol 5 DL 2 LB’s and 4 DB’s. haha It works on the video game all the time hahaha

          • shawnee sooner says:

            they abused us mainly bc Evans went out early and Charles walker was out with concussion

          • DCinAZ says:

            And we had a glorified safety playing OLB who was too small to set the edge.

          • Lane Gilstrap says:

            Yes they will all be around 240 now. Much more conducive with a 3-4 or 3-3-5

          • Matt says:

            Striker wasn’t the issue in that game. Bond was. He had no discipline against the run. They teach junior high school kids to play outside contain and. Bond was jumping the gun all game. Striker was actually right when he jumped.

          • Jim Casy says:

            Clemson put 550 yards the next game on a 5 star defense that checks all the boxes in height and weight.

          • MikeyBoom says:

            Respectfully disagree. While I agree that Walker and Evans are a huge help to our Defense if I recall correct Evans got hurt mid game. Also, Shaq Lawson wasn’t healthy and did us dirty on defense. Injuries are a part of the game. Next man up and at OU, we should have guys ready no matter what.

          • DCinAZ says:

            Lawson went out of the game in the 1st quarter. Zeus shut him down. In fact, Lawson looked afraid of Zeus to me.

          • Lane Gilstrap says:

            I believe one of the first plays of the game was a Lawson sack he went right past Zues

          • Matt says:

            Yeah Lawson had a sack and a half in the one quarter he played against Zeus.

          • shawnee sooner says:

            While I agree with your next man up philosophy….taking a run stopping force like Walker a day or two before a playoff game is played is not an easy task. Any team would struggle with the interior DL with a loss like that.

          • Matt says:

            Yeah they ran off Dimons side the entire game. Walker being out killed us. Devante Bond , Dom and Ahmad Thomas missed several key tackles. D-Line apart from Dimon held their own.

          • D Hunter Sanchez says:

            And we were winning at mid-game!

          • Jim Casy says:

            Yeah that and I don’t believe the greatest defense in CFB (Alabama) exactly shut them out, either.

          • MikeyBoom says:

            Amen. The obvious speed didn’t help us vs Clemson and their run game. I forgot how much they abused us and our 3 DL group

        • Matt says:

          Romar and Wade are great NT.

        • cush creekmont says:

          1974 defense was the “old” 5-2-4. The “ends” were LBs. Nose, with 2 “tackles” and a will and mike LB and strong/weak safeties and two corners.

          Now days the “ends”/LBs MAY need to cover someone if there are 4 or 5 receivers. Still, I’ll go with the Switzerism and say it was not the scheme, but those “Jimmies and Joes” since there were Selmons and Shoate.

    • OceanDescender says:

      If Bowen ends up at OU, I’m not so sure he doesn’t become an OLB.

      • MikeyBoom says:

        Thats my worry. How many damn OLB do we need lol I can think of Obo, Kelly, Jackson, Deberry, Rodriguez, Beal, Potentially Bowen, Browning. I may be missing someone

        • OceanDescender says:

          I see your point on a position getting quite crowded but I’m also of the opinion that you can never have too much talent because of the competition it breeds. The best will play but they’ll play even better.

        • Scott says:

          Gumbs and the kid from Houston ( forgot his name )

    • Jdizzle says:

      Well, considering OU faces spread offenses, with quick passes and runs, having lb’s to chase them down is more prudent (in my opinion).

      • MikeyBoom says:

        Agree but the thing that comes to mind when we line up 3 DL man with 3 LB’s is getting torched by a spread team. Example. A spread team with 4 wr and 1 RB. They can spread the field and make the linebackers go out a little and leave 3 DL with maybe 1 LB against 5 OL plus a RB. so it ends up a 4 versus 6 match and I’d take the 6 every day of the week.

        • D Hunter Sanchez says:

          Ah, Baylor had a great running attack last year and a veteran O line and after that opening drive they didn’t rush for much.

    • Lane Gilstrap says:

      I don’t remember Dan Cody being all that big. He was great and fast but I thought he was undersized.

    • Randy says:

      I would think Bowen is a OLB. Kinda how Striker was listed as a DE but we all know he never put his hand down as a DE. Gallimore and Lampkin are what they are going for as 3-4 DEs. Most of the time they are call 3 techs or 4, 4i techs.

    • 47 Straight OU Know says:

      Had a test tonight myself!! What you going for? And about the d-line. IMO, it is the nature of the way the game is now days!! Everything is so uptempo that you have to have speed to counter speed. Now absolutely you can pound the ball down after down and ware them out. But who runs a he ball every down anymore? We were the best at that game many years ago. Not trying to bust your chops but this is not the days of Jaimelle and Charles anymore.

    • SquidGiant says:

      I asked this the other day, but I still don’t understand why we can’t run a 3-4 and have a package with a 4 man front for when teams like Texas and Clemson try to stick with the run. Texas was clearly afraid to throw the ball, and they beat us with a bunch of short runs.

      • Sooner Ray says:

        This is what I want also, seems simple on paper but maybe too difficult to pull off in game prep.

        • SquidGiant says:

          That’s what I assume too. Some of our new linebackers are a little closer to the size of DE’s so that may fix itself.

      • Jim Casy says:

        Texas QBs couldn’t hit water if they fell out of a boat. They never should have been able to run on us with that kind of handicap.

        • SquidGiant says:

          I totally agree. I kept praying for them to toss one of those lame ducks up for Sanchez to take to the house.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Are we sure Bowen isn’t going to Texas like everyone else?

  • Tony B says:

    I know the Bowen news is relatively new but any info on his time frame on where he is going to land? Also is he visiting schools again?

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