How Cody Thomas Leaving Affects Baker Mayfield

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If by some chance you’ve been living under a rock for the past 48 hours and haven’t heard, Oklahoma announced over the weekend that backup quarterback Cody Thomas was leaving the team to focus on playing baseball full-time. It’s the second such time he will have done so and just like the first, Bob Stoops says the door remains open for a possible return should Thomas choose to do so.

However I feel like the odds of that happening this time are debatable considering the timing of this particular decision and the path to his playing next year being relatively clear. Baker Mayfield has been known to make some, shall we say, questionable decisions with regards to his own personal safety, so Thomas was only ever one snap away — though to be fair the same can pretty much be said for every backup QB — from seeing the field in 2016. So the decision to leave the team now seems like a bit of a curious one, though absolutely all the well wishes in the world and hopefully he finds great success on the diamond.

But Thomas’ leaving could, some might even argue will (based on previous history), have an unintended affect on Mayfield and this OU offense. Because as most of you have probably heard/read ad nauseam, the Sooners are now left with just two eligible scholarship quarterbacks heading into 2016. Mayfield of course being the first, and true freshman Austin Kendall being the second. And while it certainly works in Kendall’s favor that he is already on campus as an early enrollee and will take part in spring practices, he’s still a true freshman who has yet to ever take a snap at the D-I level.

I’d point you back not a long time ago, to the 2014 OU season, as to why having a No. 2 QB as inexperienced as Kendall will clearly be is relevant. As you’ll likely recall, during that 2014 season the coaches appeared to be so nervous about their backup quarterback situation, they seemingly put the shackles on starter Trevor Knight. It looked as though he’d been coached to stay in the pocket almost at all costs to avoid any increased chance of injury. The coaches took away arguably the most effective aspect of his game, athleticism, and tried to turn him into more of a pocket passer. I feel safe in assuming you don’t need to be reminded how that all worked out.

I only bring it up again now because the OU coaches once again find themselves in a similar situation. One has to believe the proposition of a true freshman QB being forced into action is a potentially scary one for any team, let alone one who will come into the 2016 season with legitimate national championship aspirations.

And yes, there is certainly an argument to be made that if Mayfield were to go down for an extended period of time OU would be screwed regardless. Because while Thomas at least had some experience on the field, without being too harsh, he also had yet to really instill with his play a ton of confidence in his ability to lead this offense.

So with a true freshman behind Mayfield, will we see the coaches again try and limit him outside the pocket? Or the better question might be is that even possible?

Mayfield’s game seems to be one somewhat dependent on his instinctual and, at times, uncanny ability to make something out of nothing. Is that something you can coach a player like Mayfield not to do? Even if you can, wouldn’t there have to be some potentially significant concern as to how it would affect him on the field? I mean we saw what it did to Knight. And while he and Mayfield are clearly very different players, there would have to be at least some trepidation that a similar ‘stay in the pocket!’ mandate could again have negative effects.

If we’ve learned anything about Bob Stoops in recent years, it’s that the ‘Riverboat Gambler’ days of old are long gone and, in my opinion, he has become much, much more risk-averse (one need look no further than the punt return team). So it’s somewhat difficult to believe he’d just throw caution to the wind and let Mayfield do a lot of the same things we saw him do this past season, or at the very least try to prevent/minimize such things to the best of his (and Lincoln Riley’s) ability.

Now maybe Thomas comes back in the fall and this is all a moot point. However if that isn’t the case, then you have to kind of wonder if this isn’t another one of the more pressing question marks surrounding this team heading into a 2016 season with some pretty high expectations.

124 Comments

  • metzker says:

    Best of luck to Cody———–BOOMERRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • LLAdamJ7 says:

    One would have to hope that with a different coordinator that something like this won’t happen again. I don’t believe that you can coach the tenacity out of Baker either.

    • Jordan Esco says:

      I’m w/ you in wanting to believe that. But I think it all still stems from the HC and obviously that hasn’t changed so….

      • Bob Edwards says:

        The one hope is that we have a new OC who seems to seems to be more of a risk taker. We will see if he can balance Stoops out.

  • Bob Edwards says:

    Jordan I want to call you a Negative Nellie because that’s what us sunshine pumpers do, but I think you are right on this one.

    I would add that, even if Thomas comes back in the fall, he will have lost the practice time he needed to elevate his skills from the rather pedestrian level they are at now.

  • Lane Gilstrap says:

    How does this affect Cody Thomas scholarship?

  • DrZemus says:

    Good assessment. Really affects Baker indirectly. It directly affects Bob Stoops. Don’t get me started on special teams. Makes me sick.

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    Right on Jordan. That was my immediate thought, when I heard the news. Then I wondered would OU go to that wildcat formation of Mixon and Perine we saw? I mean they would have an entire offseason to work on it. Esp, Joe’s reading the DE part. And even though he’s a true freshman, maybe Kendall can be a game manager. Someone who can convert some third downs and keep the ball in Perine & Co.’s hands.

    Good luck to CT in baseball as that is his future hopes of pro sports.

    • Bob Edwards says:

      Well Kendall could be more than a game manager. He is already on campus and he should get 2nd team reps which will help. I do remember a freshman coming in and doing well when the number one went down. His name was Jamelle Holieway. Of course that was thirty years ago so the odds aren’t that high.

      • Soonerfandave84 says:

        Yeah it’s definitely possible. I’m just hoping he can take care of the ball and make accurate throws to start, I don’t want to be too greedy in my expectations. That leads to a let down if we do see him in games where the outcome is in doubt.

        • Bob Edwards says:

          No, I wouldn’t plan on Kendall being the Next Big Thing, but we need to not get too worried until we see what the kid can do.

          • Soonerfandave84 says:

            Yep, there is always the possibility that CT saw that he would be above him by fall camp anyways.

          • soonerbred4ever says:

            Just like CT possibly saw that he would be number three come fall. I think he definitely knows he will never start after this year.

      • metzker says:

        Jamin Jamelle

      • metzker says:

        Had Troy not gone down we might not have ever seen Jamelle.

  • Furr-Sure says:

    If Mayfield gets injured next year, OU should do what Baylor did vs. UNC. All power run, jet sweeps, maybe a reverse or two.

    Although I think Kendall coming in as an EE will really help, if Baker gets hurt OU is in trouble.

  • OUn8v says:

    Worry, worry, worry. Meanwhile, Josh Rosen says “hello”. I don’t believe that our coaches haven’t thought about this situation. We do have different coaches than from the 14 season and I have a whole lot more confidence in this OC than I ever did the last one.

    While I don’t believe in EVERYthing Coach BStoops does, most of it has worked out pretty dang good. Imma sit back and watch because that’s all I, as a fan, can do.

    Riley knows Kendall from when Riley was at ECU. Kendall can certainly be a great backup.

    • Furr-Sure says:

      Lots to like about Kendall…but I’m skeptical he’s on Rosen’s level.

      • OUn8v says:

        For sure Austin has to prove himself at this level, but he’s no slouch…especially as a competent backup. What I’m saying is that Austin has at the least opportunity to surprise us fans, just like Rosen did. OUr coaches know, but not many of us do.

        • Furr-Sure says:

          Furr sure, I think Kendall has plenty of upside, and might surprise us as a competent backup next season

    • Kelsta says:

      For every Josh Rosen there are a 100 freshman QB’s that say “hello” back to you. But even if you assume our freshman is the ‘1 in a hundred’, you still can’t compare him to the Rosen situation. Rosen was a freshman that came in competing for the starting job. He spent the summer/fall getting starter snaps working with the “1’s”. The point is we appear to be super thin at QB next year. There’s not enough sunshine pumping available to convince me otherwise. Lets just hope we don’t need to count on QB2.

  • Indy_sooner says:

    I disagree with this assessment. Even with me being Knight’s #1 fan, we had absolutely no viable #2. That fact seems lost to alot of folks. So how does having Kendall in there now change things? Get the kid viable snaps as the #2 and if all fails, run the hell out of our 3/4 elite backs. I believe there is also another PWO from HH as a worst case?

    Another takeaway, even with all the Kyler Murray hoopla, Austin showed he did not shy away from competition, did not switch and waffle on his commitment. Don’t discount the kid before he’s played a snap. Baylor did it, UCLA did it. I expect nothing less at OU

    • paganpink says:

      I agree with you. In spite of Cody’s stellar HS success he never looked even competent in our offense. And we know of the injury problems and inability to see the field that haunted Trevor. We HAD no number 2 and if we do end up with at least a decent backup (and get him some playing time) we will be ahead of where we were. I am hoping that the coaches don’t try and stifle Bakers running although he could learn not to take the big hits unnecessarily. Just watch the pros. They duck under or around the force of the hits automatically!

      • Indy_sooner says:

        That last line is true. He needs to get smarter and understand he is a target for any QB. An ejection penalty will not help him when this is his last year. It was clear that opposing defenses sought him out deliberately- heck he had 2 concussions to show for it.

    • Jordan Esco says:

      Why was Thomas at that point not a viable No. 2 but Kendall is now?

      • OUn8v says:

        Who else was there? Stoops stated later that Thomas was #2 during bedlam, although we didn’t know it.

        Don’t forget that Baker was a walk-on that even the coaches hadn’t been considering until he showed up one day. So now, we have a recruit that Riley had been on since he was coaching at ECU and he’s now on campus.

        I may be a “sunshine pumper”, or simply choose to be optimistic. I am guessing that Kendall may be a better qb come fall than Knight or Thomas would’ve been. Just a guess.

      • Indy_sooner says:

        You missed my point. Kendall may not be the savior but the level of play from the backups last year does not make me think that we have a lot to lose by trying out Kendall. If what you are saying was true, then they would have clamped down on Mayfield’s playing style last year as well, no?

        TK9 could barely move the ball vs TCU yet retained backup start over Cody. All we know about Cody is his 0-2 attempts in Clemson (which admittedly isn’t enough to form a picture) and the bad 2014 rep sheet.

      • soonerbred4ever says:

        Kendall ran this same offense 3 yrs in high school. His stats are really good he has good size and is very accurate. So far he is not a pick six machine as was the previous back up. You’ve got to give the kid a chance to give you reason to doubt him, other than he’s freshman. I like to think 1985 is still possible should Kendall have to play.

  • Jason Vos says:

    I think we should offer another QB. The Oklahoma kid that just committed to Missouri makes sense. Micah Wilson a dual threat QB

  • Jeremy Phillips says:

    The only reason i disagree, is because of Baker.. I don’t believe he knows how to, or is willing to tone his back yard style of play down…

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      I think he’d be more aware of taking care of himself in the first quarter, but if it’s a game in the 4th he’ll be his old balls to the wall self

    • Jordan Esco says:

      I completely agree. Exactly why I raised that ? a couple times in what I wrote. I don’t think you can coach that out of someone like him. And frankly, I don’t think I’d want you to anyway.

  • Johnny Greenlantern Otis says:

    i think kendall being in early will help him and also get him ready to compete with murray in 2017 and give them both equal footing to come in and be good qbs in the future. hopefully baked stays healthy and ou jumps up big on teams and give kendall som eexperience time running the offense

  • Birddawg says:

    I imagine more coaching in the aspect to slide and throw the ball away is the only aspects to improve on. Especially with the personality of Bakers.
    Bakers scrambling ability is a huge part of his game. Also, his personality isn’t going to let the coaches stop him from trying to be a playmaker .I don’t expect Lincoln Riley to force him to be a more of a pocket passer because of his quotes.. “we want a qb to move”
    LR will have another year to make Baker smarter by staying safe by throwing the ball away, slide or fall down to avoid unnecessary hits.
    Injuries are apart of the game. The threat of injury shouldn’t stop you from what you do best.

    • SoonerMagic76 says:

      The sliding occasionally is probably the biggest part of his game I would like to change. I agree with everyone here, can’t (and don’t want to) change his style of play. But at times, choosing to slide would lose little to no yardage and save a hit…. seems fairly reasonable

  • Ryan says:

    Find a JUCO QB like Joey Halzle to come and be a capable backup.

    • Jordan Esco says:

      Most JUCO guys w/ only two years to play aren’t looking to come in and be a backup for one of them.

  • boomer8 says:

    I hate the fact Bob lost his River Boat Gambler approach. Watching our Special Teams is sickening and sad.

  • CrimsonNative says:

    Kind of a moot point considering we were in the same position last year. Plus, true freshman are capable of coming in and doing phenomenal jobs. TCU, KSU and Baylor did it last year and OSU does it almost every year. Austin should be more than capable if needed.

  • SamSooner says:

    How Baker plays, or how Stoops allows him to play, doesn’t matter, in my opinion: it appears to me the results have a potential to be the same if Baker stays healthy but holds back or if he does his Baker thing gets hurt: either way we won’t “have” the Mayfield we need to win.

    Pick your poison.

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    some good news, Tom Loy the 247 ND site guy, switched his pick for Caleb Kelly to OU this morning

  • Furr-Sure says:

    Would be nice if Justice Hansen was still at OU

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    I don’t mind the playmaking and trying to avoid sacks in the pocket. My problem is him scrambling outside the pocket and either waiting until the last minute to throw the ball and taking a hit, or not sliding to pick up and additional couple of yards. He has to be smarter in those areas.

    Hopefully with Kendall being on campus for 8-9 months before the season starts, Riley can get him whipped into shape. Get him comfortable with certain packages and plays in case the unthinkable happens.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      He takes a few unnecessary hits a game. If he’s got the firs,t get down when about to be hit or step out of bounds or throw it away if only going to gain a yard but take a big hit.

    • Mr. Jones says:

      Biggest complaints about his game are when he loses two yards running out of bounds instead getting rid of it and just wishing he would slide a little more.

    • OUn8v says:

      Do you mean like his scramble at Baylor when he finally passed it to Flowers in the end zone? Okay, then.

      • John Garner says:

        I don’t want to see him give that up.

      • cdzendolet says:

        I think it is also important to remember that while that play was going, he was dancing in the pocket looking for his receivers first. I think Baker is more than capable in either situation.

      • cdzendolet says:

        I think it is also important to remember that while that play was going, he was dancing in the pocket looking for his receivers first. I think Baker is more than capable in either situation.

      • SoonerfanTU says:

        No. I don’t mean a play like that at all.

    • Jordan Esco says:

      That’s the issue tho. Not sure you can really get one w/o the other w/ him.

  • Dick Bump says:

    I think it’s all a moot point in that Thomas will likely be back. If that doesn’t happen, I don’t think you should try to change Baker’s style to any great extent. He is what he is and that’s why he’s successful. If he goes down it’ll be the next man up with a large dose of Perine-Mixon. Let’s hope the O-line is up to the challenge. We’ll find out early with the out of conference schedule this year. Should be an exciting year.

  • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

    Mayfield, Kendall, and Murray.

    These are OU’s QBs next year, correct?

    • metzker says:

      Murray sits, but we do have 2 walkons also.

      • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

        Sanka. Wasn’t following Murray’s transfer that closely.

      • Jed says:

        Is therer a reason Murray necessarily sits? If anything, he’s more experienced than Kendall. Or am I missing something?

        • metzker says:

          Has to sit a year for transfer.

          • TDSooner says:

            Murray does “sit” for a year, meaning he can’t play on Saturday. But he still can run the scout team, which I think is better for him to gain needed experience. Same path that Mayfield took running the scout team in 2014 and winning the job in 2015.

        • SoonerMagic76 says:

          He was granted full release, meaning he won’t lose a year of eligibility like Mayfield did. But he’ll still have to sit the year by NCAA rules

          • soonermusic says:

            The loss of a year of eligibility is a Big 12 regulation, and has nothing to do with full release or not. NCAA says be a student for a year before you can compete, and the Big 12 says that if the transfer is within the conference you lose a year of eligibility as well. A & M is not in the conference, that’s why he doesn’t lose a year.

          • SoonerMagic76 says:

            Excellent correction, thank ya sir

    • JD says:

      Like said, Murray will be our scout team qb and Kendall will need all of the reps he can get running our offense

  • Chris says:

    They just need to get him to slide instead of taking unnecessary hits. Especially when he already has the first down and tries to fight for an extra yard when he doesn’t need to.

  • JD says:

    If the coaches put the shackles on then it isn’t necessarily gonna be a bad thing. You can look at TK and use that argument or you can look at Jason White. While no doubt Jason would have been awesome as a dual threat later in his career it seems that he really honed in on his passing touch once limited to being a pass only option. I wouldn’t mind having an offense like the 03-04 offense

  • Sooner Scoop says:

    Mayfield will be Mayfield and the coaches will not mess with his greatness. They understand exactly what they’re getting when he gets on the field. Have you ever seen a caged lion at the zoo compared to one who lives in the wild? Mayfield must remain free and wild or he would die.

  • Golfluvr13 says:

    I do not think there is anyway to tell Baker that he has to stay in the pocket. It’s just not going to happen. Baker is going to be Baker, and frankly that is what I want to see. The only option I see for the Sooners is to get Austin as many reps as possible starting with spring practice.

  • Golfluvr13 says:

    I do not think there is anyway to tell Baker that he has to stay in the pocket. It’s just not going to happen. Baker is going to be Baker, and frankly that is what I want to see. The only option I see for the Sooners is to get Austin as many reps as possible starting with spring practice.

  • BoomerDave says:

    This is really not that big of a deal for two reasons. One, from what I’ve heard, there’s about a 75-80% chance that Cody returns in the fall. He has simply told the coaches he would like to concentrate on baseball 100% this spring. Second, I believe that Kendall would have moved ahead of Thomas regardless. No way to know this, but we’ve seen him for 2 years and I haven’t seen anything to give me confidence.

  • soonermusic says:

    I think there’s little chance that they will “shackle” Baker the way they did TK for several reasons. First of all, in 2014 TK had already missed part of a season through injury. In fact at some point during the previous season, both the starting qb’s had been injured and I think that was fresh on Bob’s mind. Second, there’s a different offensive coordinator and more to the point a different offensive system in place. Finally, Bob has already gone on record saying that Baker’s gonna play like he plays. He clearly has a different attitude towards Baker and the way he plays than he did with TK.

    With regards to the punt return conservatism, I think that had far more to do with the across the board problems with blocking on returns of any kind, kick and punt, than anything else. So it’s just not relevant, imho.

    imho, Bob is not and has never been a “one size fits all” decision maker. The team is different both offensively and defensively than the 2014 team, the coaches are different, Baker has a different skill set from TK, the backup qb will be a different guy (always a possibility that Cody’s decision was in part based upon his relationship with the new coaches and what he sees coming down the pipe), and the offensive system is different. Additionally, the experiment of keeping TK out of harms way at all costs, wasn’t all that successful “at the end of the day,” so while there might be a directive to avoid contact with a slide if possible, and to throw the ball away a little sooner–which he needs to do anyway, on occasion, I will be very surprised to see anything more dramatic than that.

    • Exiled In Ohio says:

      BS is the all-time winningest coach at OU, and right near the top in winning percentage among active coaches. Given that, it’s amazing how many posters on here assume that they see the truth so much better than BS, and that he’s obviously making mistakes or is complacent or the game has passed him by Call me a sunshine-pumper, but I choose to believe that BS knows what he’s doing.

      “BS is at the end of his career and just complacent” – maybe this past season indicates that isn’t true. “BS needs to fire his brother, because the game has passed MS by” – hmmm, maybe MS isn’t so bad. “BS isn’t worknig recruiting hard enouigh”, “BS will mess up handling BM now that CT is gone”, “BS is messing up punt returns”, “This recruiting class is turning into a disaster”- isn’t there some reason to believe that the OU football program knows what it’s doing? Guess not, based on what I read on here.

      • soonermusic says:

        “winningest…” You and I are pretty much on the same page on this, Exiled. I absolutely see nothing wrong with discussing, debating, and, yes, questioning Bob’s decisions. That’s part of why we’re here. That’s what fan’s do. But the instant loss of perspective as indicated by the extreme level of despair, hostility, and illness (“it makes me sick”) of some is often way out of proportion with reality, imho. The apparently constant need to abandon all confidence in his judgement and ability at the drop of a hat, flies in the face of his ongoing, singular, and often unmatched accomplishments, and is simply not warranted.
        Jmho, of course.:-)

  • BoomerDave says:

    I think is pretty dumb to say that Bob’s Riverboat Gambler days are gone because of punt returns. When Bob has a PT guy he feels confident in, he turns them loose. Don’t have to look that far back to Jalen Saunders to prove that point. It’s plain as day that Bob had confidence in Sterling to catch the ball, but none whatsoever in his returns. Sterling had 22 returns this year and put 3 of them on the ground, losing 2 of them. That is unacceptable. Bob says repeatedly on his radio show that they’ve tried over a dozen people back there, but none have shown the consistent hands that Sterling possesses. He would like to have returns, but ball security always comes first.

  • soonermusic says:

    having read some of the other comments, if it turns out that this is just Cody returning to the concept of focusing on baseball in the spring at the expense of spring football, it may not be that big of a deal when all is said and done.

  • hOUligan says:

    Spring is about learning and building the depth chart. OU is fortunate to have Kendall in for spring. Think between Kendall, McGinnis and Clark (invited to Baylor as a preferred walk-on) someone will emerge. Would like to have seen CT competing but ‘oh well’. But you cannot limit yourself with fear. Any team, see Baylor and Russell or TCU and Boykin, that loses their starter is going to suffer. Few have the luxury of an AA 2nd stringer.

  • j l says:

    Id be ok if this led to more checkdowns to our stud backfield.

  • MrBigsby says:

    It’s certainly a curious decision on Thomas’ part. Heck, he stunk it up for the baseball team the first go-round. Not many full rides in baseball either, especially for a 1-12 hitter. Plus, I’d have liked to seen Kendall redshirt.

    • Jordan Esco says:

      well to be fair I’m not sure how much it was stinking it up as opposed to never really getting a chance to play much.

      • MrBigsby says:

        1 for 12 is stinking it up, no denying that batting average.

        • Jordan Esco says:

          sure, but 12 ABs is also hardly enough to judge anyone

        • Jim Casy says:

          Ha. 1-12 is like, what, 3 games or so worth of at bats? Follow baseball any?

          • MrBigsby says:

            It’s an .083 batting average, it’s stinking it up no matter how you slice it. And maybe there were only 12 bats because he wasn’t getting it done and practice to deserve playing time. It’s not like this has been a great team under Hughes. If he can’t get playing time a bad team….well, I shouldn’t have to explain that.

  • hushnpa says:

    really don’t think CT just turned his back on his teammates – kind of wonder if this isn’t because AK is lighting it up already ? is this even possible ?

  • SoonerinLondon says:

    Frankly, I don’t see Baker changing his play and I don’t see the coaches changing his play. I expect he’ll try to avoid big hits and slide a little more, but that’s it.
    Let’s face it, the coaches saw the same thing we saw from TK and Cody last year. Their play was not going to get this team to a championship, so losing Baker and having TK or Cody on the bench would not make any difference.
    Riley has been recruiting our new freshman for 2 years. He obviously believes in him. I expect his play won’t be any worse than what we saw from TK and Cody this season, so we’re not really in any worse position now than we were 2 months ago.

  • roygbell says:

    I don’t see the coaches or Baker himself changing much in the way he plays the game. Outside of two plays he wasn’t hurt and one of those plays where he was hurt was a very cheap shot … that I think was intentional, at least it looked like it to me.

    All in all, I think Baker did a decent job of staying healthy. I’ve never been a fan of “playing safe to avoid an injury”. I hope we let Baker play his game and leave him alone.

    Before we make this a big issue we need to delay this discussion until we get a couple of weeks into the Fall camp. My guess is Kendall gets as many reps as he can handle without his arm falling off from the over work. He is going to have all Winter, Spring Practice and the Summer workouts to hone his game and get himself comfortable with the play book.

    My guess is that Baker is going to take this kid under his wing and give him every chance to get ready to play. Freshmen QBs are a difficult thing to gauge. Some are capable of walking in and playing great, others not so much as it takes them a couple of years to get up to speed.

    I’m sure not going to panic over this. We are going to be short on proven experience regardless of whether Cody returns, which I am sure he will. Not to beat up on Cody, but he just hasn’t shown that he can handle the job. He has had plenty of time and if he was going to make it we should have seen it by now. He had every chance to beat out TK last year, but he didn’t. So, why would we expect him to do it this year?

  • Jake says:

    After reading your article the only thing I can say is wtf is going on with the punt return team!!? Holy hell Thats frustrating to watch!!

    As for Mayfield, even if they tell him to sit in the pocket I don’t think he will. It’s not the way he plays. What are the coaches going to do if he doesn’t listen? Bench him? Nope. Mayfield will do what Mayfield does best, improvise and make plays.

    Now can someone do something about that punt return nonsense??!

    • Jordan Esco says:

      Be on the lookout for a BoomerDave lecture 🙂

      • BoomerDave says:

        Waaaaaahhhhh!

        • BoomerDave says:

          JE, anyone can piss and moan about the punt returns, but you have never once offered a suggestion of who would be better than Shepard. Nor have you ever even acknowledged that Bob has said repeatedly that theyve tried to find someone better, but no one has stepped up.

  • Super Keith says:

    I think Stoops & Riley know there’s no way to coach Mayfield to be less instinctual, nor would they want to do that. I think they understand that “it is what it is”, and will have to go with what they have. Even if they tried to dial back Mayfield’s instinct to run, I don’t think it would do any good. He only knows how to play one way. Balls to the wall.

    If you really think about it (and this is not mean to be a knock on Knight), having Kendall as the backup isn’t really a lot different than having Knight available. It was clear last year that Trevor just wasn’t the guy we needed him to be, and that was made even more apparent by his drop to the #3 QB spot.

    In a way, this is a blessing in disguise. Kendall now approaches spring and the off season with the knowledge that he’s the guy if Baker goes down. That’s important from a mental standpoint.

  • Mark_in_VA says:

    You can’t “coach” Baker not to be Shake-n-Bake. And even if you did, you’d end up with an entirely different QB, and maybe one no better than what Knight became. So no matter how risk adverse Stoops may be, I think he’s stuck with Baker being Baker, and if there’s an injury then we have to roll best we can.

    I still think the new Plan B is going to be Dalton Wood. He’s someone they can put into the game in short-yardage situations to get him comfortable and a feel for this level of play. Then, worse comes to worst, he goes in and runs basically the Belldozer package plus (hopefully) some passing out of it. I think if Mayfield went out for the season, you’d see Kendall take over anyway, but they’d still play a lot of the Wood-dozer package to give him some cushion.

    • Hooknladder says:

      I would agree, but Baker is way more accurate than Knight. But no, you can’t coach him not to be who he is…it’s in his nature.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Ohio State won a national title with 3 quaterbacks of whom only one had real experience. No excuses. Next man up. He/they better play be better than Knight/Thomas. This is OU.

  • michael hammond says:

    Mayfield’s concussions are a bigger problem than people realize. Could be bad.

  • Eddie and Amber says:

    I think Mayfield’s learning progression next year will have him run less as the offense becomes more familiar. Also with a better offensive line too. He’s still gonna have his crazy scrambles but maybe/hopefully not as many.

  • JB says:

    I don’t think this will affect Baker at all. Sure, the coaches will try to keep him from running and to go down easier. He may even try it for a game or a half, but it won’t last. Baker is who he is, and I doubt all the coaching in the world will take that out of him.

  • Walter Sobcek says:

    It’s not just a lack of depth at the position, but Mayfield’s concussions this year that are concerning. I think they will place a LOT of emphasis on getting BM to throw to checkdown receivers at spring practice. I would also not be surprised if Cody returns to the team in the fall if necessary.