Postgame Commiseration Thread
Posted on: September 3, 2016
Not sure how much anyone would care to after that one, but seeing as the game thread was pushing 3,000 comments figured it made sense to move things over here.
If you need to vent, consider this your place to do so. We’d simply ask that you try and keep it clean out of respect for others, but other than that do whatever helps.
We’ll have much, much more on the game in the coming days, no matter how much you don’t want to read it or we want to write it 🙂
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Meh… next week
See you next week. I’m going grill some burgers and come back later. There are some games I want to see tonight.
See ya Sam!
It’s a loss. Sh*t happens. Onto the next team
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Boomer
What a punch in the kisser this game was!!!
Much lower than the kisser!
We will be fine guys, the first game is always tough especially with a lot of new parts. I liked what I saw on defense. We will beat Ohio State in 2 weeks and run the table
Is this the “vent all your profanity” thread?
I’m worried how the team will take the loss mentally
that’s where Team Captain’s earn their keep
Did anyone notice how Seibert double clutched that fg? It wasn’t snapped when he wanted it, and therefore didn’t get a decent run up.
Completely outcoached on the return. We obviously didn’t see the guy back there.
I noticed that as well
Yeah, i saw it too
There isn’t an unexpected special-teams play on Earth that wouldn’t work against our coaches. Do you remember that fat SOB from Clemson lumbering for a 1st down on a fake punt WHEN WE WERE IN PUNT SAFE? I have never seen anything so absurd in my life.
A lot of bad feelings towards Obo (definitely deserved), but I did see improvement throughout the game. He just needs to keep working on the mental part, I believe he’ll put it all together before the season’s done.
As long as this doesnt spiral our season outta control we should be good
12 carries for Mixon and Perine in the 2nd half with a garbage WR corp. 12!!
Four man front please.
IMO, this was not the problem
IMO, this was not the problem
The three man front worked today, just couldn’t cover the receivers.
Haha, okay
You can’t ask DBs to cover that long!!!! Way too much time to throw.
No rush when we rushed three, ward had all day most of the time. Credit to him, he beat us with his arm, not his feet.
We allowed Houston’s defense to dictate the game instead of the other way around. Disappointed that we abandoned the running game.
The trend continues: Bob Stoops teams just don’t handle prosperity well. 2008 is probably the only time I can remember when they did.
I guess Riley giving Perine 6 carries is because of the prosperity huh? And Baker scrambling on 4th and 15? Baker not looking for anyone other then Dede and Jarvis? All that’s because Bob can’t handle prosperity?
Well if it’s a mindset that leads to those things… Then yes.
There is always a reason. But when has this team handled high preseason rankings and expectations well?
Correlation without causation. Don’t continue a senseless narrative.
You are way off. When it happens that many times the mindset IS the causation. Even if that means the team is just developing slower than it should early on because they are too comfy.
If we can pick at Riley and Mayfield, why is Stoops untouchable?
You mean if the food is lousy at a restaurant, and the waitress is rude, you can’t blame the manager? Where does the buck stop?
I’m not saying get rid of Stoops, but he needs to own this one as much as anybody else on his staff.
Not since Switzer.
Perine is clearly hurt. I know they put him back in, but they kept doing that last year when he was hurt, too. They were hoping even hurt he was our best weapon.
Well Im out for the weekend.. i feel like someone just shot my dog
yeah, forcing me into the yard work I really didn’t want to do
These issues have raised their ugly head too regularly now. It’s time to answer some tough questions, Bob.
Yep, sad to say but I am not sure we will ever win another NC with Bob at the helm. He has done a great job, but just doesn’t seem to have that edge anymore. I know everyone will roast me for this, but we may need to suffer a couple of years to find a young and new HC.
Hell, go after Herman.
Or turn it over to Lincoln, cuz if we don’t he will be gone after the year anyway.
After the last two outings I’m Ok with this.
I’m gonna need to see a whole lot better offense before that’s even a remote possibility.
This is what I said last year and everyone said I was stupid on here. Tom Herman is an elite coach and that is something that Bob Stoops will never ever be called again. Fireball and throw 8 million a year at Hermann and watch the natties rain
Unfortunately it will cost an ungodly amount to make Bob go away.
The coaches had them ready, and they played hard. The game just swung on a few plays. A few less penalties, a few different calls by the refs … and this one ends differently.
My only big concern today was the OL. Not good. OK, and maybe the receivers. I liked the DL play; not sure if they were good or if Houston’s OL was bad.
Nice to see you Exiled. Sad it took a loss to get your commentary, bud
So the inability to tackle anyone did not make you nervous for the rest of the year?
But yes, our O-line is absolutely terrible
Everyone is scheming and destroying Mike’s 34 d. We need a change. I’m not firing anyone but we know for sure now that scheme is not working to any advantage for us.
I didn’t think they got destroyed. They did a great job of getting 3rd and long. But Houston just executed well on 3rd down, plus a bunch of dumb penalties.
It’s a pick your poison with mobile QB’s. We picked to let him throw. Didn’t work.
True. Although he didn’t make me think he was a better passer, we just have a worse cb situation than I thought.
Exacty. We didn’t defend the back shoulder throw at all. Outside of that, we didn’t play that bad in the secondary.
not sure you can teach an old dog new tricks… Mike will be there as long as Bob is HC so I think we’re dancing with who brought us
Well he’s not very cute and I’m tired of getting my toes stepped on.
Whelp.. Onto ULM
Baker has to take some blame for his poor play today. You have to let the Wr’s make a play. They aren’t always going to be wide open. He has had a huge problem holding the ball too long which he occasionally gets away with.
Not so much today.
Completely agree
Yep, but most Sooner fans including many fans on here and ALL national media will say Bob can’t handle expectations.
Well he can’t. That’s pretty much a statistical fact at this point.
Bob does not coach with an edge any more. All the things he used to do are long gone.
Bob used to have a talent edge on most teams. That edge has disappeared…….
The talent edge wasn’t there when he won the NC.
What helped him then was that he didn’t have a body of work for opposing coaches to study.
It seems to me that one of the problems of being a coach for many years at an established program like OU is that every coach out there has a book detailing every one of your tendencies. I think that’s happened with Bob and Mike both. It seems they’ve run out of new wrinkles in their game-planning. Opposing teams are ready for everything that they put on the field. And those with similar talent too often are now coming away with a W.
fair statement, Ura………
*Everyone* played poorly today. Baker looked a lot like a couple of those erratic games he had at Tech.
At least we solved the question about who would step up and fill in for Shepard: no one.
And he still had 323 yards with 2 touchdowns with pathetic pass protection
Pass pro wasn’t even that bad against that D line. He just holds the ball too long.
No Sterling to get open didn’t help I’m sure.
“pathetic pass protection”?
Huh? That wasn’t the issue today, at all. We won’t see a D-line as good as Houston’s the rest of the year, and our guys did fine. It was the stupid penalties and not making plays that were there to be made that sealed our fate today.
He needs to step up in the pocket too
He left the pocket too many times today. Maybe he’s still having flashbacks to last year’s early season O line, but he needs to settle in and take what’s given.
No doubt
I didn’t watch a down. Plan was to watch the dvr. I guess I will save my time now. OU should never lose to Houston. Period. Guess we should stop believing the hype train coming out of Nompton every year.
Agree about the hype train. Have to take off the crimson glasses and look objectively or you get massively disappointed.
That’s one reason I didn’t watch. No reason to sit through a slow painful meltdown on day 1. I actually had a wonderful time with my kiddos.
Honestly Houston did look really good they looked way better than anything I wasou has had in a long time.
OU should never lose to Houston.
I thought Houston looked good, but not great. Not in the championship playoff great. They looked like a pretty good P5 team, which for Houston is quite an achievement. But as the game went on, OU just folded. Absolutely folded. Texas Tech or Okie St. would have beat us today too, but they sure don’t belong in the championship. But that’s all we’ll hear until someone upends them (Louisville if no one else).
yes. they were motivated, with swag. maybe thats what we need. more motivation and swag.
yes. they were motivated, with swag. maybe thats what we need. more motivation and swag.
Oh a true fan would still watch it. Come on. You know you will. LOL
Haha you are probably right!
Uhh, that hype train is driven mostly by fans like the ones that post here. The media does it too, but they do it b/c of OU’s name/reputation. Anybody that thought OU was running the table this year clearly hasn’t been paying attention.
Not even talking about running the table but a loss to Houston at OU in my eyes is unacceptable. When I was in school at OU, it wasn’t if we would win, it was by how much would we win by. We just aren’t as good as OU should be and we haven’t been for a while. If fans are honest with themselves, we were very fortunate to play some teams with injured qbs last year.
As much as I plan to rub this one in later, let’s all be honest with ourselves. It’s not as though UofH was some unranked joke. In fact, I’d argue they were underrated due to their conference. I think they’re a top 10 team, and they certainly will be by next week. You lost by 10 to another top 10 team “on the road”. It’s not exactly the end of the world.
Agreed it is not the end of the world, I’m not that upset because I kind of expected it. That’s the problem though, OU shouldn’t be losing to Houston and it’s now a yearly thing that we lose to teams we shouldn’t. See your Longhorns last year. Our program just isn’t where it should be is my point.
If I’m Bob, I tell Riley and Baker they can take a cab back to Norman and I get Kendall ready to start.
Yeah, it was all Baker’s fault……. He was the reason we lost……..
Lol
Well atleast were not the Joke of the week.. Thanks Miss St!
2nd place for joke of the week? It’s not like we lost to Temple.
As much as I would have liked to see LR call more run plays, we have to admit the OL was getting killed out there. He may have felt it was an unrealistic option.
He called too many IMO, we killed them vertically early.
On a positive note, Bradford gets a career break playing with Petersen and the Vikings.
If you’re so inclined and you happen to have Starz, The Big Lebowski just started and channeling The Dude is a great way to pretend that didn’t just happen.
The only redeeming thing about this loss is that I’ve had my heart broken by losses so many times before that it’s starting to get easier to handle. Depressing but true.
It’s like a death. It doesn’t get any easier you just find better ways to cope.
Beer seems to help. At least I don’t break my furniture anymore.
I tried but we didn’t look any better.
True, but at least you have beer.
I can’t drink anymore. It isn’t helping.
Never give up…
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I think the plan out of Norman is that eventually our fanbase turns into Hog Fans. Happy to have 8-10 wins… never expecting more.
When do they hogs ever get 8-10 wins? lmao!!
Thats why they’re so happy! I used to live in Fayettville, and if they hit 10 wins there would be a friggin PARADE (kidding, js, those guys have LOW expectations)
We might be a little numb, but we’re not dead. This still sucks.
Boren is happy with that …………
Dude seriously. I was like, why am I not more upset then this? I’m usually pissed about this sort of game. Not so today. LOL!!!
to be fair, Houston only lost 1 game last year… Tom Herman isnt Corky from Life Goes On, turns out he knows what he’s doing…
No Herman’s legit. 2 legit.
If they ever replace Bobby, Herman I’d be down with.
Is he 2 legit to quit?
I’m sure you wouldn’t mind him swapping places with a certain Mr.Strong.
He will be gone from Houston next year with a good possibility it will be to Austin or College Station. Hope it is College Station despite my affinity for Sumlin.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him wind up in Baton Rouge. Les is not looking as though the seal of approval he received at the end of last year is going to be warranted.
fat chance he’ll be available when ‘big game Bob’ decides to move on…..Herman is bound for Texas after this season unless Texas wins 8-9 games……..a bad loss by Texas to ND might start the ball in motion to get Herman to Texas sooner than later……….
You must be high….get ready to eat crow all season because we getting errrrrbody
No he is going to Auburn or LSU
Can he recruit Houston from Auburn? Probably not as well but LSU makes a lot of sense
Much easier path to the CFP in Austin than in Auburn, Baton Rouge or College Station.
Herman will have quite a list of programs to choose from if he continues on his present course. texsa will likely have the most money to offer, so that’ll be hard for him to pass up, although LSU would be a pretty tempting offer as well. His agent’s phone is probably ringing off the hook. (although phones aren’t on hooks anymore lol)
Uncomfortably numb?
yep…….affecting many of us the same way…….
The best part of that game? After Joe Mixon was nailed by a single defender in the completely open field, I found that extra time I needed to finally install the new flush assembly in my leaky toilet.
Perine and Mixon 6 carries a piece, No Bueno!!
Hard to imagine. The running backs don’t call the plays.
Happened early last year too. WR situation needs fixed. Now.
huge OC issue, IMO
I agree!!
I agree!!
Can anyone name, and I’m being totally serious here… Can anyone name the last game where everyone was in agreement that our team looked, played, and acted “well-coached?”
Stupid, stupid penalties. Again. Some bad calls by refs, yes, but dumb plays by several players.
Play calling and offensive gameplan very, very questionable. (not talking mid 3rd quarter on, as you can throw out the plan at that point…)
Very little run gameplan, yet we dont have wr’s that can run routes to get open either?
Db’s make opponents look like they have multiple Michael Irvins.
Basically, where in the hell is our coaching??
Baylor
Oklahoma State last year, Baylor last year, etc.
Would we say that if Baylor, etc didnt have those injuries to qb’s though?
Hard to say, but we looked well prepared that day. Assignment sound, wanted it more, etc.
Okay true.
what these guys are trying to say is… any game where the opposing star QB was fully injured.
Serious question for guys who played and understands football. Can we or will we ever win a big game with M Stoops as our DC.
No offense, but this is a stupid question.
Totally disagree Mav. We’ve won big games with Mikey at the helm, but he has trouble with mobile QBs and good passing attacks, see his Okie State loss in 2002, at Stillwater. Mike needs to be questioned. To just allow him to continue unabated is like all Sooner fans sticking their heads in the sand, choosing not to watch and/or acknowledge the issue.
What does that point have to do with the question though? We’ve won a bunch of big games already with Mike at the helm. He is sometimes outcoached for sure.
Today I don’t think he was, I think the players on the field didn’t make enough plays. He wasn’t out there playing corner or hitting the qb late.
Most people are ignorant about coaching. Especially on defense. Mike is not in the top 10 in coordinators in college football probably, but the plan today was a winning one. We just didn’t make the plays and they did.
It has EVERYTHING to do with the question. Mikey has difficulty planning for mobile QBs and/or ones with good passing attacks. Between Clemson and Houston, what more proof do you need? Looking outside of those two games, we were sooo fortunate to not face the starting QBs of Big12 teams late last year. Imagine a healthy Bryce Petty or a healthy Mason Rudolph vs OU last year? Then go back many years when Mikey was handling the secondary for OU. There were plenty of problems that reared their ugly head while he was Co-DC with Venables handling the DL and LBs. Mikey is just not THAT good, and it showed today. He’s good, but he’s not THAT good. Why would any DC match up a 5’11” 150lb CB against a 6’3″ 210lb WR?? I’m sure the 5’11” height is generous, Dakota looks much shorter than that, but Dunbar is listed at 210. That’s a 60 lb difference with at least a 4″ height advantage. Yeah, the tiny CB isn’t going to be able to make a play in that situation. Mikey needs to be questioned.
It’s these kinds of nuances that will haunt Mikey for as long as he is the DC. So, yeah, it’s not all about the defense since football is a team effort, but look at all the history of losses. Most are due to a failure of the defense to shut down the offense in some way. Finally, the loss today, aside from the defense’s performance, can be attributed to the coaches not getting the team ready to play. I’m not trying to pin this all on Mikey, but his unit definitely didn’t do its job. We have now made Houston’s season, and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they went undefeated now in the regular season.
It is a really stupid question.
I thought the D looked much better in the second half. It was again the offense oh and leadership they wilted under pressure starting with #6
Not one of those guys, but nope. When the opposition completes 8, 9 2nd- and 3rd-and-longs, you have no one to blame but the defense as a whole. That was the most discouraging part: no killer instinct, and no ability to get off the field.
Edit: oh, I thought you said NC. Sure, we’ll win some big ones, but to put it together beginning to end I don’t see that we have the smarts for that.
I think Coach Mike made good adjustments… went to 4 man front on 3rd downs after being beat rushing only 3. Looked like he tried some bracket coverage to try to stop the back shoulder throws but CBs had poor technique. Too many penalties , both dumb and questionable, really killed the team today.
Totally agree, it wasn’t Mike.and I’m not a huge fan. Dumb penalties and the 53 yeard FG time out killed us. Defense fought all day.
Honestly the game plan works defensively the problem is the receivers kept catching passes on Long third Downs because the secondary couldn’t cover. The plan all along was to make Greg Ward beat us with his arm and it just went sideways when he actually started doing that. Those penalties on third down on the field goal killed us and Lincoln Riley needs to stop abandoning the run
D was not the problem. MS made nice adjustments in second half. O didn’t score, in second half, until less than 3 minutes left. O was very one dimensional!!!
I don’t even know what to say…..nor where to begin.
Lemme give it a try: Bob did not get the team ready. There are too many big games in the schedule.
you could try “where’s the beer?” or “pour me a double”
We should have been worried with the practice reports kept saying the Defense was winning
When our running game came around last year weren’t we in a shallow shotgun with a back behind the qb running down hill?
This sucks, I’m starting to not want to use my words?
How can Houston replace so many starters in their secondary and we can’t get a receiver open? Pathetic
The had a better scheme on D, our talent is down, and Baker didn’t wanna throw the ball half the time.
Doesn’t trust his receivers yet, needs to throw it up and let the WR make some plays. Might get some interceptions in the process but that’s the game
Who’s worse…Jordan Evans or Dakota Austin? Oh and JE is as much a 1st rounder as Sanchez :/
I hate this cliche, but didn’t it seem like Houston just wanted it more? That part is always the most puzzling.
One team played to win. OU looked afraid to lose.
They did indeed. Sooners seemed like they just wanted to roll in, get the game over, and get ready for tOSU
Eh we definitely were fired up at the beginning. After that field goal return we were shell shocked. Defense turned it around too late after that
Plus I don’t care what anyone says, Baker wants to win as bad as anyone
Sure they wanted it more. They have the world against them and Goliath was in town. But OU still should have wanted it enough to still win comfortably. Looking at the product on the field, I was wondering if the team actually took August off. Then again, we just always stink it up on that first game of the year, and this time we happened to do it against a team with some teeth.
i agree. they were hitting and very motivated. they have a very good team but we did shut down their quarterback run game. too bad he learned how to throw over the off season. seemed like we couldn’t get a stop on third down.
Well all week I sat back and watched everyone pick OU to beat Houston. I felt uneasy about it just because the recent history of OU playing poorly the first week of the year. Guess my gut was right. Bob wins games and his record is great but it kinda feels like empty wins against bad teams…a lot like Mack B while he was at TX. Sad that I don’t get upset when OU loses to a good team anymore.
We will see what happens. I don’t think more than a couple teams go undefeated this year. If you had to pick a game to lose, it would be this one on the road. Have a couple weeks to prepare for Ohio State. After that, TCU, Texas and OSU could be enough to get us back in it. I think Houston loses to Louisville, but that is a long way off.
We made the playoffs after losing to a much worse team last year…
This is not a championship caliber team.
The first goal is to get into the playoff, then anything can happen.
PLAYOFF!?!? WE’RE TALKING ABOUT A PLAYOFF?!?!?
Yeah the playoff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7fjDS0jKiE
Yeah, that worked great last season. You might be able to get by one top 5 team with this talent level, but you won’t get past two.
Ohio State would be one. Who would be the second?
To win a national championship you need to be at two top 5 caliber teams back to back. This team doesn’t have the talent.
The first goal is to get into the playoff. Ohio State, TCU, Texas and OSU and the rest would get us there. If we did that, we would have the talent. Did you think we had the talent last year after game one against Akron or the loss to Texas? Nobody did. You never know.
We clearly didn’t have the talent based on how Clemson clown stomped us yet again, and we still don’t.
The goal is to get to the playoff. We have the talent. Anything can happen once we get there. Most people would say we didn’t have the talent to win the championship in 2011, but we did.
All receivers still can’t get open and our players still make idiotic mistakes on third Downs. Our front seven played absolutely outstanding that game and the secondary fill them all night long. Lincoln Riley play-calling is Mayfield should only be throwing one time a series. We need to go back to where we were last year at the Texas Tech game when we ran the ball over 45 times
Houston was ready to play, were we? Houston had a game plan, we appeared to abandon ours early. Stupid penalties cost us the game IMO. We can still be good if the oline get settled. Just a bad day…Credit to Houston…God we looked bad today.
OU. In a nutshell, they have no playmakers on either side of the ball.
Mixon?
I’m speaking on WR.
Laughable comment.
If it was deep in the season and folks had established themselves as playmakers, I’d agree with you. However, it is the first game of the season and it was in a neutral site … nobody has become an established playmaker. They certainly didn’t do it in today’s game, so I agree with Big Tiddays. OU just wasn’t ready.
I’m sorry 47 that was not a neutral site brother. Lol
The DL played good. (Except when they went to only rushing 3) walker made plays. Wade made plays. Got to Ward in the backfield really held his rushing totals down.. D. Austin imo was awful.. Got picked on the entire game. So I see where y’all are coming from but I disagree that there were “no playmakers” on either side of the ball. Mixon wasn’t a playmaker on offense today?? (Probably the only one)
I think there is a little more to it than that, but I agree, that is a big problem. Maybe the biggest.
Live on, University!!!
Peace out.
Boomer
We all knew this is one of those games the big boys hate. Little to gain and everything to lose. Hard to get fired up when it’s not exactly Alabama, but you know this team is going to come after you with everything they have. Boise all over again.
Yeah, I agree. I’m sure this was their game of the season and they REALLY REALLY want to get in to the Big12. Question is if they get in: Will they pull a TCU or will it be a West Virginia?
Anyone know what injury Perine has/had?
It was weird, he came back in the game a couple times in the second half but it was like Mixon became the starting RB
It was just like last year. They put Perine in because, even hurt, there’s a good chance he’s your best player. But it didn’t work out today because apparently the O-line is composed of air.
Definitely not paying $60 to watch this team next week.
Yeah they are going to have a hard time getting that.
TuneIn app has it for free to listen.
I only get to the OU Sooners play 12 to 13 games a year,I won’t miss a game over a bad outcome from the 1st game of the season. I’ll either pay the $60. Or go to the game.
Truth – The WRs could be replaced with bags of sand and you’d get the same results. OUr TE is a weapon, the rest of them including DD are suspect at best.
Our TE is inconsistent. We needed him on that 3rd and long, hit him in the hands, and he just dropped it. If he can’t bring it when it’s clutch, he’s not going to have an impact and Stoops/Riley won’t trust him in those situations.
Maybe Trent Smith could sneak in and play.
At this point, I’d take Matt Anderson!
I really don’t know what to think. Bob’s fault for the field goal return. I’m really at a loss for words on getting jobbed on some calls. Damn we looked bad again!
Sad that we only seem to play well when we’re pissed off. We have become the gatekeepers and kingmakers…..the team that others beat to make their bones.
We didn’t have one stop in first half. You have got to be joking
We pulled the FB after the first drive and abandoned the run entirely when it was working.
Coaching receives an F.
That seems a little high
This reminded me of those terrific performances when Mack had Greg Davis and Carl Reese. I don’t know if this is a case of extreme complacency, but the way they played sure reeked of it.
We ran the ball at will the first drive.. And than nothing. Only 12 runs between our rb’s is pathetic.
We look afraid to lose again
Yeah but Mike did Ok right?
The focus was obviously to limit ward on the ground. And they did that. Just didn’t have the horses in the secondary to back it up. Was really hoping Mbanasaur took a big step this year but I guess not.
9 of 18 on 3rd down conversions for UH.
8 for 9 in the first half.. I think
We held them to 3 a few times but I think they scored every time they had the ball first half didn’t they
Our offensive line is still suspect, maybe more than last year. Our secondary is pathetic, and our tackling is still a major issue. I think Bob needs to bite the bullet, and consider replacing his brother as coordinator. As his 3-4 scheme isn’t working.
I’m out, we’ll win next week and see what happens vs. OSU. Boomer!!
I am so glad that I was working and didn’t have to watch that. Why does this happen every year? WHY?
Starting to think Bob has a gambling problem
Or his brother has a coaching defense problem.
Bob has a complacency problem.
Why indeed. Sad to think how you and I (and many others) have been commiserating together for years over the same thing 🙁
It seems to be an avoidable situation, right? This is just silliness that we see the same deficiencies every year; OL, Defense, WR (minus Broyles and Shep).
Failure to adjust and correct problems, be it in preparation or in-game situations, leads to this sort of outcome.
I have to find away to accept dominant OU defense that would suffocate all comers is a thing of the past. There will be games where there’s glimpses of Great defense, but the current bunch doesn’t appear to have a killer instinct.
You could have made this same post for the last 15 years.
Remeber when we had swager, and could back it up!
Look back at the first and part of the 2nd quarters. We were mixing in enough runs to keep them honest and in the 2nd half, we just abandoned the run.
We abandoned the run because our O-line is not good right now.
The negative yardage plays were painful
We were averaging 8 yards per carry in the first half!
On a tiny sample size.
With one big run by Mixon
And a 32 yard run by Mixon.
Mixon and Perine had six carries a piece!! You’re right not a big enough sample size!!!
(It distorts the statistics)
Those dudes need 15-20 carries each. Esp with a suspect wr core…
Play action will solve that.
Yes Sir!!
Yes Sir!!
Those dudes need 15-20 carries each. Esp with a suspect wr core…
Play action will solve that.
Another year a repetitive problem. This cannot happen this often to a place like Oklahoma. Every year the defense sucks and the OL starts crappy. Minus Broyles and Shep, the WRs have been crap for 8 years. Ridiculous.
You would think LR learned his lesson last year, but I guess not!!
OU fans need to realize what OU is as a program, and what college football is compared to the decades prior.
OU
doesn’t have elite talent. That means two things. First, it means
we’ll struggle when we go up against a team that does. A team like
Clemson for example. Second, it means we have to play a clean game to
beat the good teams. And yes, Houston is a good team.
Give some
credit to Houston. Ward threw the ball MUCH better than he did last
year, and much better than I thought he would. For the most part,
Houston didn’t have WR’s running wide open all over the place. He made
some good throws, and scrambled out of trouble to make some of them,
which was his M.O. coming into the game. Also, credit their dline, and
tackling in general. Oliver is a beast. He is the kind of player OU
needs to start landing, or we’re never going to be able to take that
next step. Again, without difference makers, games are often decided on
a couple of plays. But back to Houston’s D, their line was as good if
not better than our dline, and they tackled pretty well as a unit.
Now,
on to OU. I said this in a few places, but I thought last year was a
bit of fools gold in terms of how good we were. Seems like everytime we
needed a bit play last year, we got it. Those breaks don’t always
happen. OU shouldn’t have needed as many as we did last year to pick up
some of the wins we got. On paper, the oline should be solid. But
we’ve heard all fall that they haven’t been performing that well, and we
saw it today. Doesn’t matter how good Perine and Mixon are if you
can’t create holes for them. Also, we don’t have the WR talent that we
need to compete and run this offense. It’s actually pretty laughable to
look at our WR talent as a whole. I’d get Jones on the field and start
getting him some PT. But guys like Mead, Miller, and Smallwood? They
bring nothing to the table, IMO. Baxter is also limited. Westbrook is
fine, but shouldn’t be a top 10 team’s #1 WR. And Andrews may or may
not be the weapon a lot of OU fans want him to be.
I don’t worry
much about the offense this year though. They should be fine at some
point, once the oline gets in sync. No telling when that will be. They
spent most of the game, after the first quarter or so, just out of
sync. Close to putting it together, but not quite there. But I will
say we still don’t have the oline and WR’s to compete against the big
boys. I said that before the season, but today proved that out a bit.
Really
the same type of deal for the defense. They killed themselves early
with the penalties and missed tackles. Settled down and played pretty
well after that. Tough to gauge the dline in a game like this, b/c they
have to contain as much as attack. Based on Ward’s rushing numbers,
I’d say they probably played pretty decent. Thought the secondary
played solid, except for Austin. On a number of the longer completions,
Ward scrambled out of trouble. Tough to stay with guys all over the
field that long. Dline had a few chances to sack Ward on those plays,
and whiffed. Had the D gotten off the field more those first 3-4
drives, could have been a different game due to momentum. Linebackers.
This is where I think OU is hurting the most. Obo is a knucklehead. I
just don’t trust the dude. Doesn’t seem very bright to me. And the
other LB’s, save Evans probably, just seem like average, run of the mill
type players that most teams in the Big 12 have. I’d try to find a
way to get the younger guys (Kelly, Jackson, DeBerry) on the field and
playing as much as possible.
OU had every chance to gain momentum early, but the D squandered that. We had some chances late, but the O couldn’t get on track. Between the D missing tackles and the Austin/Cobb issues we had, coupled with the missed FG return, Houston just held the momentum longer than we did. It happens. Goes back to my comment above about OU not having the horses to not play good, clean football, and expecting to walk away with a win.
I saw OU fans asking if this was a
rebuilding year, or predicting 4-5 losses in the game thread. Happens
every year when OU loses. This OU team isn’t going to fall apart. We
have a tough schedule, so I’m not necessarily predicting us to win out,
but it wouldn’t shock me. That Ohio State game looks tough now, and
TCU/UT both worry me. I’m guessing after those games though, we find a
way to win the rest. Probably a 3 loss regular season if we don’t beat
Ohio State, which I’m not giving up hope at either.
Bob and the
staff do seem to have problems motivating the team for big games, and
getting them ready to start the season. It’s frustrating. But the fire
Bob stuff is laughable. The same OU fans that want him gone, are the
ones that wanted Riley named coach in waiting until this game, and are
now blasting him. Too many OU fans living in the past. Thinking
college football is like it was in the 70’s and 80’s. It’s not.
Outside of Saban/Bama and Meyer/Ohio State, OU is still in as good of
shape as any other program. Both in the past decade plus, and going
forward. Those that won’t to hire Herman today, will look stupid when
Houston slips up against a Memphis or somebody like that. And they
likely will.
It sucks losing this early, but I’m not giving up on the season. I enjoy OU football, even if a NC is likely out of the picture. I never thought we were winning one this year anyways. This team will get better, and will play better. It’ll still be a fun season, and if I had to bet today, I’d still pick OU to win the Big 12. Can’t wait to see the “new” stadium next week.
I don’t expect a 48 game win streak anytime soon but some consistency would be nice.
Consistency like a CFP appearance last year? Again, outside of Bama and Ohio State, nobody else is doing what OU fans seem to expect out of OU. I want that too, but I’m also realistic. Bob isn’t Saban or Meyer. And no, that doesn’t mean we should fire him either.
Bring up the Sugar bowl win while you’re at it. I’m Ok with losing, not like this though. And it’s becoming too common.
Not like what? Please explain what type of loss you’d be okay with.
I’ve been here long enough to know that debating with you is like rushing two on 3rd and long. No thanks.
yes but is it 3rd and 50? Hail mary time?
One where we were completely and utterly outmanned and outplayed. Not one where we question ourselves over every single move, and ultimately, beat ourselves. Because, in essence, OU was playing two teams today, Houston, our OUrselves. Once again. Like Colfax said, all too common.
When will that ever be the case? If you aren’t okay with losing to Ohio State (they have better talent on paper), than you’ll never be okay with a loss. We beat Bama when they likely outmanned us.
Ummmm, we didnt play tOSU today. We played Houston. And I get it, they are a good team. But we were supposed to be better, on paper, and on the field.
And it should always be the case (that you lose to teams that are just plain better). When you are a superbly coached team, you are consistent. Year in and year out, and beat the teams you are supposed to. Instead, we are not, or at least havent been in a decade, and we ROUTINELY lose games that we should not. Its not like this is a fluke, it happens yearly (losing a game we should not.)
And like I said, outside of Bama and Ohio State, that happens yearly to nearly every team in the country. And even Saban and Bama have had their bad losses. Even Ohio State. I listed them in another post. OU is as consistent as anybody outside of those two schools. If there are other teams doing better, please tell me who. It’s not happening. This isn’t the 80’s where the difference between the #5 team and the #20 team is clear and decisive. There are normally 2-3 teams that stand out in today’s game, and the difference between that 4th team and the 35th team is nominal. That’s just the way it is.
It’s every year.
Damn sure is. Losing games we shouldnt lose is Bob’s biggest achilles heel, and it strikes yearly.
OMG! My attention span is WAY too short for this. sorry.
Time and time again the Olineman literally stood straight up, never fired off the ball. Just stood up and got in the way, never drove their man off the line. I don’t understand how that can happen.
Nothing left to do but try and feed off the misery of others. Here’s hoping Whisky curb-stomps LSU
Receivers was the weakest link no doubt, if the offense could complete some passes u would b surprised how much the running game would have opened up and maybe offense stays on the field longer which would definitely help the defense.
A note on the missed FG. Do you guys really Bob would put him out there to attempt a kick that was out of his range? It was in his range, especially in a domed stadium. If you watch the kick again, it appears his timing gets messed up, and he takes a small stutter step. That is why it came up short. I probably wouldn’t have attempted it, given the length and situation, but I think he is capable of making that kick, and it would have been a huge momentum swing.
Yeah, i mentioned that below, the timing was off which didn’t let him get enough power.
That was a punt situation, still a two point game. No need to try it. Seibert had done well pinning UH in and getting fair catches.
Completely agree with this.
I thought that on 3rd and very long, if a FG was part of the thinking … then why not try a screen or draw to get a few yards closer?
But you’re right about Seibert’s steps being off, he false started. Most of time I’m yelling for flags on the opposition and don’t get them. Today, I screamed for a flag for false start on our kicker. Damn officials can’t get anything right! LOL!
I’m just glad I haven’t paid out the @ss for tOSU tickets. I won’t be making the trip for that game now. No sense in dropping $1,000 to go see OU get the crap kicked out of them. I may not even buy the game on ppv next weekend. No sense in getting my hopes up.
At what point do we say we have no viable wr’s on this team, ever, or do we, dare we, actually point the finger at the qb?
Now, hear me out. I know Baker has pulled some magic houdini, and all that jazz, and he led us to the playoff last year… I know.
But why is it that we NEVER have a wr show up (minus a mr. shepard of course)?
Is it that we have really crappy wr’s and ALWAYS do?
Or is it that coaching can’t coach a wr route that gets open, at all?
Or could it be possible, just possible, that our qb, though magical with his moves, might actually not read the field well? Maybe he only hits wr’s that are truly wide open? (2nd td to andrews not hat great of throw, helluva catch…)
Could this really be the reason he needs to dance so much? I mean, I’m starting to think he gets in his own way. He has time, many times, and after 4 seconds, when most qb’s would have already gotten rid of it, he begins to scramble, just magicly hoping something happens. And sometimes it does.
But the dude does it sooooooo much, I’m beginning to wonder if his success with it, is just the law of averages, and not really his skill. I mean, you scramble around 15 times a game, 1-3 will work right?
Maybe, just maybe, Baker was a walk-on for a reason.
I get it though, shoot me down now if you please….
Extremely disappointing game, but it’s still the first game, and a lot of the reason we lost was self induced due to penalties/turnovers/questionable play calls. I doubt we just plummet out of the polls, and I think the team can correct some of thie bad stuff. Not holding out much hope of a win against Ohio state though.
I still believe this TEAM can make the playoff.
With some luck and intelligence on D
That’s come and gone brother. Let’s hope they right the ship and make a decent bowl.
It does seem that just a few key plays made the difference in this game. Adjustments can be made, but even if we won the B12 it’s hard to see them putting us in over others.
Nah. They had the least wiggle room of all of the contenders. They’re probably out unless everyone lays major eggs…plural.
LOL. If we win the Big 12, we’ll have a solid shot. ND isn’t going to be in it this year. It’ll probably come down to us and whatever team wins the PAC. We’d have a solid shot if we won out.
Do I think we’ll win out, or that we’d have a good chance in the CFP if we made it? No, not really. But to suggest OU wouldn’t be in the CFP discussion if we win out is silly. And actually, a win against Ohio State puts us in ever better position, b/c Ohio State likely wins the Big 10, and we’d have the head to head against them. Houston winning out could throw a wrench into things, but I’m not so sure they will win out.
I don’t think this team can be tOSU.
We can. Especially at home. But we’ll have to play much better than we did today. We have two weeks to make those improvements. I dunno.
Not with this defense and OL. Just not good enough.
I don’t think this team can be tOSU.
If it came down to us and Houston, how could the committee pick us over them? P5 team or not, they will get the nod over us after this performance unless their season somehow just falls apart.
Have you seen their schedule? I agree, if they win out and don’t have a bunch of close games, they’d probably get in over OU. But I think the committee would be rewarding them based on two seasons worth of games, b/c OU’s resume, even with the head to head loss, would be much better. MUCH better. Houston’s schedule from here out is crap. But like I said, I think they’ll slip up. They did last year, and almost did a few additional times.
If we lost to tOSU, I’d agree. Losing to Houston, no matter how their season ends up? No way. Not to mention, the team that played today would leave the tOSU game with severe road rash after they smashed and rubbed us across the asphalt. We better improve a lot over the next 2 weeks or it will not be pretty.
About the only thing that could make me feel better now would be to see Bama, LSU, and any other top 10 teams go down in flames too. Misery loves company ya know
I agree, will be rooting for many upsets
at LSU & Ms St bit the dust today……..
A lot of great college football left this weekend that I won’t be able to enjoy now!
Was Geno Lewis even in the game?
Had one catch…at least from the little I heard of the game on the radio.
Had several catches I think…
Did you guys know you were tricked today? OU won the toss and elected to receive the ball. Bob knew the defense was suspect and hope the offense could put a score on the board to hide the suspect D a few more moments. 🙂
Definitely not the usual choice by Bob Stoops. He knew something alright.
Definitely not the usual choice by Bob Stoops. He knew something alright.
Some may call me a troll…i dont deny that I am critical of the sooners when they lose. I just want o see they actually perform when they are expected to. I honestly apologize if I said anything to anyone today that was uncalled for. Theres always hype about our team but hardly anytime they come through.
With all if these good receivers we supposedly have, how was the secondary not ready?
The ability of UH’s brand-new secondary to shut down those “good receivers” should give you your answer.
Actual defensive coaching? Is that what you’re getting at? Wish OU had that…
No, I’m saying there’s a reason Shepard was the guy who made all the plays last year. This WR group to a man is not good.
Agree totally.
Additionally some actual defensive coaching would be good.
Did you mention the defensive coaching? Hmmm … i was thinking, our defensive coaching seems to be lacking, so maybe it would be good for that to be better. Just sayin’ …
Actual defensive coaching? Is that what you’re getting at? Wish OU had that…
The ability of UH’s brand-new secondary to shut down those “good receivers” should give you your answer.
OL is a problem. One corner spot is a problem. But man it would help Baker to have a 5 star recruit out there at WR. Haven’t had one of those in a while. I agree with what some of you have said, outside of Dede and Andrews, there isn’t another receiver who is consistent enough to be a threat.
OL is a problem. One corner spot is a problem. But man it would help Baker to have a 5 star recruit out there at WR. Haven’t had one of those in a while. I agree with what some of you have said, outside of Dede and Andrews, there isn’t another receiver who is consistent enough to be a threat.
DeDe isn’t a consistent threat either.
Neither is Andrews.
Neither is Andrews.
Well he had two TD’s today and I guarantee teams have to gameplan for him in the middle of the field. But not having an outside receiver threat squeezes the field
He had two TDs on how many targets?
He might have more targets if he were able to separate.
And he dropped a clutch 3rd down pass in the hands.
I didn’t say he sucked; that he’s inconsistent.
Separation, from all WRs, is awful.
No argument there.
I would disagree in terms of being a possession type receiver. Screens, slants are his game. An occasional post type route. But other than that, pretty limited
He’s a #2 WR at best on a good day.
I was thinking #3…but this team is extremely poor at WR.
He is a #3. That’s why I said he’s a #2 “on a good day”.
So we agree.
Yes.
Good. LOL
Good. LOL
DeDe isn’t a consistent threat either.
Chaos everywhere please!!
’17 ’18 recruiting classes on campus yet?? Could use them that’s all I’ll say the rest of the day. We’ll bounce back. Big games coming up the next 4 weeks. Sleep on it for tomorrow is a new beginning.
’17 ’18 recruiting classes on campus yet?? Could use them that’s all I’ll say the rest of the day. We’ll bounce back. Big games coming up the next 4 weeks. Sleep on it for tomorrow is a new beginning.
Come on Whisky! Curb-stomp those kittens!
Come on Whisky! Curb-stomp those kittens!
This was probably beaten to death in the game thread, but I wasn’t in there. Just a question for this crew – is there a definition of offensive PI? Sour grapes @ this point, but their big WR was creating a lot of separation with a late full arm-extension push. Just curious if I’m crazy.
Not sure about the offensive PI, but the defensive PI sure wasn’t being called. Terrible officiating
Oh, they got D. Austin, so it was certainly being selectively called when it didn’t exist.
I’ve always said, having the XII refs come for the away games actually is a bigger disadvantage for us. Except for P-12, I’d rather have the home team’s refs call the games. We’d get a fairer shake.
Agreed….it was the selective way they did so I was referring to.
Give me some names of players who impressed other than Mixon and Mayfield in the first half.
Or some names of OU coaches who impressed anyone in this game.
Westbrook did extremely well I thought
I guess I’ll give him that he played to his ability, and that’s saying something for this game.
I liked the defensive line.
That defensive unit allowed 33 points…not much to like. Admittedly, I didn’t see the game, but still.
7 was on the absurd missed FG returned 110 yards for a TD.
Think we’ll see anymore long field goal attempts this year? smh
In fairness, the zebras helped
I hate refs. My son’s HS team got the old hometown screwjob last night too.
Besides Mixon he was really the only one that did anything in the receiving game. Andrews had that one nice catch but that was about it
Besides Mixon he was really the only one that did anything in the receiving game. Andrews had that one nice catch but that was about it
Charles Walker
He showed up
I thought the secondary played pretty well, outside of the Austin/Cobb CB spot. Will Johnson was caught chasing his man a couple of times, but nothing crazy.
Westbrook did fine.
And that “fumble” and failed review was ludicrous. Not what lost the game, but pretty ridiculous.
Since you asked to keep it clean…..*bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppp*
that is all
Since you asked to keep it clean…..*bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppp*
that is all
I want to know what was in the mind of the possible recruits we had on the sideline.
WTF!!!
be careful what you ask for 😉
Interior D line seemed to do ok, but Striker’s presence off the edge was sorely missed
Okay so I’m going to try and keep this as brief as possible…
It really confuses me when I look at the #3 by Ou’s name and then I look at our team and what we lost/had returning. I don’t understand why we received such a high ranking. We replaced 2 o lineman, 5 defensive all Big 12 starters, 3 of those defensive starters were the linebacking core, and we lost our all world receiver.
So basically we returned just half of last years defense, only 3 o lineman, and no proven game changing receivers. We were not worthy of that high of a ranking to start the season.
Now with that being said, that does not mean this team can’t be successful. They have a lot of work to do, A LOT! But much of what hurt Ou today was their own doing i.e. Dumb penalties that extended Houston drives for points which would have otherwise been punts. I thought the secondary was ok other than the inability to defend the back shoulder throw which is arguable the toughest throw to defend. The d line I thought played well in the 2nd half, they got good penetration and contained Greg Ward all day.
Ou’s offense is a good o line and a couple good receivers away from being unstoppable, but when the opposing team is basically living in your backfield it’s hard to throw/run the ball. O line is bad. But I think our recruiting in 17 and 18 if we can keep it help are going to remedy these problems.
In closing, if Ou doesn’t start to figure it out then it’s gonna be a long season. However if they can somehow make a drastic turnaround and run the table then they’re gonna be sitting as the 1 loss big 12 champ, with a win over Ohio st, and quality big 12 wins. We know chaos is going to happen because it always does. If ou wins out then the rest will take care of itself, but they have a lot of work to do! As always Boomer Sooner!
Okay so I’m going to try and keep this as brief as possible…
It really confuses me when I look at the #3 by Ou’s name and then I look at our team and what we lost/had returning. I don’t understand why we received such a high ranking. We replaced 2 o lineman, 5 defensive all Big 12 starters, 3 of those defensive starters were the linebacking core, and we lost our all world receiver.
So basically we returned just half of last years defense, only 3 o lineman, and no proven game changing receivers. We were not worthy of that high of a ranking to start the season.
Now with that being said, that does not mean this team can’t be successful. They have a lot of work to do, A LOT! But much of what hurt Ou today was their own doing i.e. Dumb penalties that extended Houston drives for points which would have otherwise been punts. I thought the secondary was ok other than the inability to defend the back shoulder throw which is arguable the toughest throw to defend. The d line I thought played well in the 2nd half, they got good penetration and contained Greg Ward all day.
Ou’s offense is a good o line and a couple good receivers away from being unstoppable, but when the opposing team is basically living in your backfield it’s hard to throw/run the ball. O line is bad. But I think our recruiting in 17 and 18 if we can keep it help are going to remedy these problems.
In closing, if Ou doesn’t start to figure it out then it’s gonna be a long season. However if they can somehow make a drastic turnaround and run the table then they’re gonna be sitting as the 1 loss big 12 champ, with a win over Ohio st, and quality big 12 wins. We know chaos is going to happen because it always does. If ou wins out then the rest will take care of itself, but they have a lot of work to do! As always Boomer Sooner!
Don’t blame the rankings. We returned enough to justify the ranking and once again failed to meet expectations like no other major program struggles to do.
Sadly Stoops is solidifying his recent reputation and getting farther and farther removed from the good ‘ole days of “Big Game Bob.”
Sadly Stoops is solidifying his recent reputation and getting farther and farther removed from the good ‘ole days of “Big Game Bob.”
You mean like every program outside of Bama and Ohio State struggles to do.
Wrong.
Wrong.
Not blaming the rankings for the loss, I said we have a lot of work to do. My main point about the rankings was I felt like it led to higher expectations on our ends as the fans. We lost a lot last year and there are only 2 teams(Bama/Ohio st) who could lose what we lost and still be a top 4 team.
Not blaming the rankings for the loss, I said we have a lot of work to do. My main point about the rankings was I felt like it led to higher expectations on our ends as the fans. We lost a lot last year and there are only 2 teams(Bama/Ohio st) who could lose what we lost and still be a top 4 team.
OU gets the benefit of the doubt b/c of our name and history. I agree, there are years that creates an unrealistic expectation for that year’s team. This might have been one of those seasons. I never expected a undefeated season, and certainly never expected us to be able to win the CFP. We just don’t have the horses, and we found that out last year again Clemson.
I think we’ll rebound and have a pretty solid season. We usually do, and it’s not like we don’t have talent. But we aren’t going to run roughshed over people. Just like we didn’t do that last year. And if we can’t make some plays (ie, get some stops, get some long TD’s, turnovers, etc), we’ll lose some more close ones this year. We aren’t good enough to just blow threw people.
Can’t watch ESPiN anymore. The ass whipping we just got is going to be on a continuous loop on SC all day
Glad I no longer have Dish to have that crap channel.
Glad I no longer have Dish to have that crap channel.
Yep. I’ve not watched one snap since the final one in Houston.
I know you made this comment early in the day, but surprisingly our loss isn’t the talk of the network. With LSU losing to an unranked Wisky team, I think that has kinda taken the front page. Also, it’s not as if Houston was some slouch, they’re about to be a top 10 team (and I just don’t see anyone on their schedule that should beat them). Anyway, it’s not as bad as I expected.
tOSU Texas TCU Baylor and OSU all became extremely difficult wins ..
All those coaches are feeling a little better right now.
lmao
We will be a completely different team by the time we play Baylor and OSU. The other three should have been concerns before today’s game.
Not sure you’re right about that, but we’ll see. Sometimes a coach needs an early-season smackdown to get his team on the same page and all fired up. You have a good point, but we won’t know until we play those games. Now if we come out of the first five games 2 – 3 or so, then i won’t care by then.
Huh, and one would have thought the loss to Clemson would have done that for him. Damn.
Lost my respect for Riley today. He abandons the run in tight games with 2 NFL caliber RBs early and defaults to sandlot frontyard football. He still has no screens or draws to deter blitzing teams and that’s a bigger deal than people think it is. It’s offense 101 and he doesn’t have it.
Lost my respect for Riley today. He abandons the run in tight games with 2 NFL caliber RBs early and defaults to sandlot frontyard football. He still has no screens or draws to deter blitzing teams and that’s a bigger deal than people think it is. It’s offense 101 and he doesn’t have it.
We definitely haven’t yet seen that supposed 2nd year leap forward. Very disappointing to say the least.
We definitely haven’t yet seen that supposed 2nd year leap forward. Very disappointing to say the least.
I can’t disagree with that.
Let us hope USC and Wisconsin can pull upsets. Not Texas though.
Let us hope USC and Wisconsin can pull upsets. Not Texas though.
I guess ole Herman is a great coach after all.
To be fair, they beat a second-rate DC
to be fair, our HC hired that DC. Like I said earlier… Mikey would be the best defensive coach in the game if it werent for those pesky third downs.
I wonder if we could petition the NCAA to eliminate 3rd down for our opposition…
I mean, Saban is still trying to get limits on how fast people can run plays… when you think about it, eliminating 3rd downs in the name of “player saftey” doesnt seem like such a stretch in that light, lol
Or we could just move OU into the CFL 😀
I’ll give him his due respect. He’s built that team and now he’s winning on the field against two quality programs in FSU and OU.
I suspect Herman is a great coach. No way he has better talent than OU, yet they outplayed us pretty much across the board. That looks like coaching to me.
Because he’s won a couple of big games? He is a good coach, no doubt. Let’s see how Houston does from here out, and how Herman does once he lands a bigger job.
I guess ole Herman is a great coach after all.
Still the 1st half, but the 5th ranked kittens don’t exactly look like world-beaters either
keith ford just scored td for the ags
Trevor Knight is 6 for 6 as well.
Neither would have helped us today, but good for them.
I was always a Keith Ford fan. He was putting up a heck of a year before his injury.
I couldn’t tell…were the receivers not open…..or did The Baker miss them ? Couldn’t connect ?
From all accounts, WRs never got separation. This seemed to make Baker hold the ball.
Seemed like they were rarely getting open. It’s a group problem.
They didn’t get open last year either but yet here they are, starting for us yet again.
Trevor Knight is looking good…maybe we kept the wrong QB
Right!!
whatever
No, no, no. A thousand times, no.
Let’s see him do it for a full year without numerous injuries. Frankly, I hope he does it, but there’s no way I wish he were our QB instead of Bake.
Really happy for Trevor and hope he continues to do well. Sometimes you just need a fresh start and a new environment. Whatever the precise reason may be, it just did not work for him in Norman considering body of work.
Our QB didn’t lose the game for us.
No one person lost the game, right on, but I’m sure BM is wishing he would have done things better/differently … just like the LBs, the secondary, the WRs, the OLine, etc.
I will say one thing, you throw the ball on 4th & 15, PERIOD. Hope he bounces back but that was by far his worst performance.
Dude scrambles WAY. TOO. MUCH. And its not just his injury risk. Its just that it doesnt work and makes us look unprepared. When you have 4-5 seconds to throw, you need to find a wr and throw the damn ball. Hell, there was that one 3rd down, and like 3 I think, and we ran an option to the right that Baker kept, instead of pitching to a wide open Perine, with room to run. Dude thinks he is super magical (he’s had moments, I’m aware..), and I’m afraid the law of averages is catching up to him. Get the playmakers the ball. Period.
You’re right about the play with Perine. I think everybody wondered why he didn’t pitch. However, did you see a bunch of open receivers looking for the ball? I didn’t.
Well, in my defense, the camera never panned our wr’s.. always stuck on mayfield. I’m just saying that It seems other “good’ qb’s make their wr’s look better, and mayfield does not. At all.
I did but unfortunately they were over the middle where he can’t see.
So, you think its his height? You know, I kind of forgot he’s on the small side. I think you’re right. A 6′ 4″ qb a la bradford, would be hitting those inside routes all day. Damn.
I don’t buy the height thing as an overall excuse. Houston and any well coached team will do with Bake is rush up the field and keep him in the pocket. If Bake steps up in the pocket, that’s where he gets in trouble with his style of play. He’s looking for a way out instead of throwing. That is where his fumble came from. Quick swing passes were there all day but not sure why we didn’t run them more. He reminded me of Maverick when he lost his co pilot, was just hesitant.
He did not. Had almost identical stats as Ward, but was more efficient and threw for a couple more yards.
Follow me. OU has everything in front of them still. They have Baylor @ Hm. They will get a major bump for beating TCU away. Beat down OSU @ Home. Fight for their life @ TT. Win the Big 12. Battle WV like always. Just have to get better these week. KSU will give OU headaches. Iowa St @ Ames is a tought win.
I didn’t watch the game but I’m guessing this basically sums it up?
https://twitter.com/demetricdwarren/status/772111288767946753
I saw that too, WTF!!
Hard to explain!
HA! I didn’t see it either…that is almost as embarrassing as the Florida OL continually pulling both guards and blocking each other.
There was a missed holding at the very beginning, but the rest sucked.
Ha! Not sure where his head was at there. Film will be fun for mr. Austin this week.
Hahahahaha
Here is a bright spot. I thought the front 7 played very well against the run game especially with how dynamic Ward can be running the ball. We eventually started getting consistent pressure on the passing game mid 3rd quarter. Hopefully that bodes well against Texas
Gotta give credit to new coach Thibs
We started getting better on defense when Coogs went conservative with a sizable lead. Don’t be fooled by the score, it wasn’t that close. Took a fumble recovery in our endzone and a conservative offense by Houston to make it close.
Breakdown seemed to be the secondary though. Virtually of their 3rd down conversions were on the outside (comeback) and a few on the deep curls in secondary territory. Ward had 1 yard on 18 carries. Front 7 also had 2 sacks and 8.5 TFLs. Minus the dumb penalties, hard to say that they did not play well.
I had the front 7 play a “plus ” for us. Obo simply has to play smarter and more disciplined. Tay overran the play a lot too, which resulted in a number of big gain cutbacks. One time, he actually beat Jordan to his hole (it almost looked like he was lead blocking for Jordan); thankfully Obo made the play. Otherwise, I was pretty impressed with the front 7. After Charles Walked got going, his play was strong.
Tough loss. Time to check our package. It’s an old adage but true that losing doesn’t define who we are. How we come back does.
Getting close to half, and Heisman contender Fournette has an awe-inspiring 24 yards on the ground
ESPin will find a way to make it a record-setting day. (I love Wisconsin. Smashmouth is good.)
Bobby, Bobby, what say ye ? ? ?
I would give back every big xii title since 2000 to win another NC and soon .
a little silver lining of sorts………..coaches and team thoroughly embarrassed today……..bucks will come in favored, game at home……..illusions replaced by a dose of reality…..like the underdog role in that particular game, perhaps wakeup call for the rest of the season……here’s hoping
Anyone listen to Bob’s postgame excuse conference.
Why? We know what he said and it sucked. LOL
No, did he bring up the Alabama win again!
Unfortunately it shouldn’t be about what the other team has or doesn’t. We are OU and honestly, didn’t play like it. Our O-line was abysmal, all game. The D played really well against the run, containing both Ward and Catalon(Helluva back, IMHO). The D-backs…ugh. Out of position most of the game, and our lack of a consistent pass rush hurt our poor coverage. I thought we did get a better push in the second half, which is also supported by us basically holding the Houston O in check for the last 30 min. The kick-6 was a killer, obviously. I had real issues with the failure to overturn the fumble call on Baxter, and the last pass interference call on Austin, but teams like OU are supposed to overcome that. I think the issues in the defensive backfield are correctable. Really hoping the offensive line issues are too. The last point I’d like to make, actually it’s a question I’d like to ask: How the hell do we only run the ball 13 times with that backfield? We were never so far out of it that we should have abandoned the run completely.
“How the hell do we only run the ball 13 times with that backfield?”
The question is, why is our head coach allowing that kind of malfeasance?
No argument from me.
We also run better out of the two back set!
It was like watching the first 5 games last year (except no Sterling), as if the last 8 never happened.
Nice assessment.
I’m curious too, for real. Is Baker just not that good at reading the field? Is this why he scrambles so much (he had plenty of time on many of those scrambles today, and instead of throwing it decisively, he runs around like chicken with head cut off)? We’ve all heard that great qb’s make wr’s better, but there is certainly none of that with Mayfield. Its like we have no viably consistent wr’s, and I for one, find that very hard to believe, especially at a school like OU, and especially when it seems everyone else in the world seems to have one, save for maybe Kansas…
Someone pull up the last four classes for both schools and tell me who is to blame.
Gotta look at game film to see that. Hopefully TFB show some snap shots of the wide receivers
He’s running around because none of his receivers could get separation. Most teams receivers can get open if their Qb scrambles, not ours.
I’d have to see film for that. No way he has 4-5 seconds and cant find SOMEWHERE to throw the ball. Curls, slants, ins, outs…those are designed to work even when well defended. Where are they? Ever?
Also, hard to know where to scramble too when your qb is that erratic. There I said it. Mayfield is erratic.
His receivers quit working to get open. Look back at last year. Shep never quit working, found a spot and sat down. These same guys couldn’t get open last year. Westbrook and Andrews are okay, but not consistent threats.
Okay, but still that doesnt answer my concern. Shep was great, really great. Hell, he did great with TK9! But seriously, slants and curls and ins and outs are designed to be caught, even when covered. Just lead the wr. Is he not seeing these routes? Do we even run these routes?
What I’m saying is his receivers can’t even get into their routes, much less get open. They get knocked off their route immediately.
Well then, wtf!? WHY cant OU get a frickin set of wr’s?!?
Also, Baker has played with these guys long enough to know them. He’s not going to openly say it but the only ones he has any confidence in at all are Westbrook and Andrews. He has seen the same thing we have……they can’t get open nor catch the ball.
Honestly, I need to watch the whole thing again. I thought for a bit that maybe Mayfield was injured. We had open guys but it looked like Baker didn’t trust himself to deliver a strike. Then, in the 4th, Mayfield actually looked and acted a little rattled. Didn’t expect that. Regardless, we really need to lean on our run game more!
Tough game to watch. We have a lot of work to do, but a lot of season ahead of us. Not the start that I wanted, but that is life; you have to be able to overcome adversity. We did some things right, obviously more wrong. We have to get better if we want to be conference and nationally competitive; I believe we can. Boomer Sooner.
I was there for the game – so much for press coverage.
I’m hoping Bob can let Bedenbaugh or Gundy call plays after this. First the Orange Bowl and now this.
I think that’s an overreaction. Sure, OC screwed up today. That said, the travesty of the OL, Defense, and WRs far overshadow that fact…to me anyway.
maybe they were all just really jittery and nervous and tired, or like… had the flu? Maybe time traveling dopplegangers captured our roster and played in their place to set up UH for a Big 12 Invite?
I’d love for Cale to get a shot at calling plays, just sayin….
Ole Hot Rod Lincoln has not impressed me with his play calling, or play sets. Its like the Hot Rod Lincoln only runs on full leaded, and its hard pressed to find that these days…
LR has to put them in the right formation and play to be successful and he didn’t do that today.
Hopefully he learns from this and gets it right from here on out!
Hey did yall know that the Coaches dont play the game, and we Beat Alabama in the last decade?
You don’t say?
that happened in real life. I think Bob should remind everyone on Monday
I hope someone reminds him.
I’m actually tired of him pointing that out … time to move on.
U WOT? When has he EVER DEIGNED TO MENTION THE MIGHTY BAMA WIN?
I’m upset, but a loss against a quality team early, is much easier to take than a loss to a cellar. Dweller 8 games in. Hopefully this loss is a good turning point.
I mean… Arkansas is tied with LA Tech right now… so… silver linings
Guys weren’t prepared, plain and simple. Houston was, so you know it’s possible to be disciplined and play well the first game. We sucked in our first game last year too.
Did you think Houston played well? They really didn’t. They played better than OU, but they didn’t play a very clean game either. Did Mississippi State play a good game today? How about LSU, they playing good? Wisconsin? aTm? UCLA? Did Tennessee play good the other night? Michigan State? Stanford or KSU?
A lot of teams haven’t looked too hot to start the season. Some have played cupcakes, so maybe it didn’t show up as much. I too wish OU had looked better today, but plenty of “good” teams that also haven’t. OU isn’t alone in that.
My comments were related to our game today, I could give a crap less about trying to find reasons to feel good about our performance. Our guys weren’t prepared to play a quality team, mental errors, penalties, out of position, and missed tackles. It was obvious, and this is the 2nd time you’ve trolled me btw.
You also said Houston played well. They didn’t. They didn’t run the ball well. They had too many penalties. They had a dumb turnover. They had busts in their defense.
Houston played well, fewer penalties, tackled well, secondary played well, overall better discipline, it was a good performance for their first game of the year. I’m not a Houston fan but will be the first to acknowledge if we were outperformed.
THEY HAD MORE PENALTIES AND MORE PENALTY YARDS THAN OU.
Sheesh people, look at a box score if you don’t know.
And just b/c we were out performed (which I agree with), doesn’t mean they played well.
“Lighten up Francis” ~ Sergeant Hulka
Nobody cares about semantics at this point, go argue somewhere else.
You don’t know the half of it. TV and live are different animals.
well, they played well enough to win. they were much more motivated also.
Houston ran very well in first half. Not as many penalties as OU. NO roughing penalties, and only 1 PI. Turnover was dumb, but also on coaches for not just calling a dive, instead of zone read. They did have a few busts, but should have had many, many more playing the mighty Sooners. I’d say Houston played pretty well.
They had more penalties than OU, and more penalty yards than OU. Fact.
But how many more dumb penalties? ie roughing, and PI?
Everything Houston did worked and whatever call happened, went Houstons way too. Bottom line, UH played tough and they wanted it. They played well.
I respect your take but don’t agree. Houston played well. They made all the big plays, forced turnovers when it mattered, and killed us on 3rd downs. We looked unprepared in comparison. The 2 best players on our offense made plays when they were given the ball but there is no way we had a sound game plan when they each only rushed 6 times.
Michigan looked good, Ohio State looked good, etc..
How many of those teams made the CFP last year and came in #3? I know, early season rankings mean squat, but you’re ranked that high for a reason, or at least supposed to be..
I have decided that what happened was this : Time traveling dopplegangers captured our roster and played in their place to set up UH for a Big 12 Invite.
Houston to the 12, Woooooo! At least we’ll get a shot at revenge before 2019.
I’ll buy that. I feel better already
I wonder about ” Potroast” Perines injury..he didn’t do much in the half but he did play.
I think he was fine. Just seems Riley completely went away from the run… again.
I guess just a stinger.
I’m not overly impressed with the golden boy Riley. Thought our front 7 played decent. We need to retool this offense. We have no wrs who can separate. Would like to see a mix of a pro style offense.
As much as I want this I don’t think our OC/QB combo would allow for it.
I think Baker would benefit from it. Use pa to roll him out. And our backs are pro style backs. I even think it’d help the oline. Just let them put their hand in the dirt and fire out.
Me too. I would love seeing it. I’m a huge #6 fan But Baker plays like he is 5’6 and can’t see the field and Riley is looking as stubborn as Stoops.
Yeah he’s not a stute who wants to stand in the pocket and sling it. Get him moving and if nothing is open he can run it. I still think Perine and Mixon are so underutilized it’s unreal. At Stanfor or a pro style system they have just as good of stats as McCaffery. I also think we have maulers on the oline, not finesse pass blockers. Even last year, Riley didn’t impress me.
I could buy you a beer
I wouldn’t turn it down lol. We’re still too finesse. Lets our maulers line up and pound people. Not pull and try and pass block.
Buckeyes won 77-10
https://twitter.com/Boomer145/status/772176938148311040
For the most part I agree. Some problems with the secondary, and stopping 3rd down conversions was an issue, but once again the O dropped the ball.
It’s this weak ass air-raid nonsense. It never performs against a good defense, ever.
It encourages atrophy along the O-line because of the lack of physicality. This performance today was a sterling example. No push up front at all. Just ridiculous.
Exactly. We should be running a power spread or no spread at all.
Was a little surprised that we did not test them deep more often. The only deep jump ball I can recall us throwing resulted in a TD.
Baker overthrew a deep ball to the end zone (I believe to Westbrook) but that is the only other one I recall.
That is right. There were not many.
I think it was a balanced effort that “screwed us”, but do agree the D didn’t play nearly as bad as some are saying.
That said, isn’t 2nd and 2 a pretty decent time to throw the ball? The lack of rushing game today was a bit of a fluke given the plays ran in the 1st half, and the fact that we were down two scores much of the second half. Just a weird games in that terms. I bet sometime into the 3rd quarter we were still pretty balanced in terms of runs vs passes.
OU fans gotta understand that a) we also have a Hesiman caliber QB and run the spread offense, and b) those RB’s don’t do much behind an oline that isn’t blocking well.
D could have done more early had they tackled better and not had the personal foul penalties that extended drives. That could have given OU more momentum early, and the game could have played out differently. That is why I said a balanced effort.
other than the fact the defense couldn’t get off the field on LONG 3rd down plays, committed too many dumb penalties, couldn’t cover Houston’s WR’s, etc–yeh, the defense wasn’t bad ( sarcasm)……..
I don’t think it was balanced. It’s misleading in the fact that Baker had the majority of our runs. That should never happen. Feed Perine and Mixon.
Get in them in a two back set and run the football down everyone’s A??!!
At least try it. Our RB’s are the playmakers. I’m just pissed they only had 12 carries. Make a commitment
Agree
The D benefited from Houston becoming quite a bit more reserved after getting to 33. The D had lots of chances to get off the field earlier in the game and I lost count of how many 3rd and longs they converted. That’s all on the D.
I agree
Fournette getting absolutely shut down. ESPiN talking heads will make out how he did better than anyone else could against a “tough” Badger defense
This is neither here nor there, but did anyone else want to throw a brick at the TV every time the announcers mentioned that the Sooners were playing “great” on defense? Did they even watch the game??
When a team scores on 5 straight possessions, you are wasting your time trying to say anything good about your defense.
Hahahahahahahahaha blowwwwww uuuuuu
And you’re a fan of? If texass enjoy the past 5 years of sub .500 ball. If Houston, win a nc then talk.
Wow, this comment was so full of substance and intelligence. You must be the pride of your village
Domer will spit you out like a 2nd-rate blowjob. Enjoy the next 24 hours before the reality hammer drops.
Good chance Houston gets in the CFB playoffs! So if we Win out we will be looking good as well!
I am more worried about starting the season 1-3 as we have a ton on work to do. OL, WR’s and DB’s were very disappointing. OL will get much better as the season progresses but I don’t see much hope for the WR’s as there simply is not a play maker other than Andrews and they only throw to him 3 or 4 times a game. Until the OL gels our running game is going to be very inconsistent. They have 1 game to make that improvement.
I couldn’t agree more. I have the same concern
That isn’t going to happen. People lost their minds in 2012 when we lost the 3rd game to KSU at home. Fans predicting a 4-5 loss season. We lost ONE additional regular season game.
This team won’t lose more than 3 total regular seasons game. That is like a worst case type of deal. They aren’t going to fall apart.
I didn’t say they were, I said I was worried it could happen. And I am.
Fournette repeatedly tackled for loss. This is getting fun
Obviously I’m concerned about some issues OU had today. But what really concerns me is this (think about this):
Preface: I know there is a lot of football to be played. Just a thought.
1. Assume OU wins out and wins the Big 12.
2. Assume we have maybe only one, Undefeated team or mainly one loss teams at the end of the season nation wide.
3. Assume Houston wins out (which is likely).
In today’s perception of college football, the first three final four slots will be comprised of the SEC, ACC, B10 Champs or maybe PAC Champ taking one of those slots. Then the B12 will be standing next to Houston for the final slot.
With the “head to head” going to Houston, they could be the first non-power 5 playoff team.
Only a thought. But don’t count out the media to talk it up. They would love those sexy headlines.
Thoughts?
In that scenario, I don’t think OU would deserve the spot. Unless they destroyed the rest of the teams and Houston squeaked by, which I don’t see happening.
Hard to answer that question in the abstract. Like you say, if OU beats Ohio State by a large margin and goes on a tear, and Houston struggles, OU would have a pretty good argument. Right now though, we have to focus on getting better next week.
You know I think I agree. My fear is we drop the Ohio State game and win the B12. With the two losses no way we make the playoffs without many other teams losing a lot. I just don’t see that happening. Then the B12 will be out completely.
Of course I want OU to win, but the B12 losing out wouldn’t hurt my feelings at this point.
Louisville will beat Houston.
That’s very possible.
Edited to clarify a bit. Should say the handful of teams near the top to be considered for the playoffs would be one loss teams.
Say for example all the champs of the different conferences have one loss and the rest say have two or more.
Stop worrying about it. This OU team isn’t an NC caliber team. Said that before the loss today. If we do get in, we aren’t going to beat 2 teams of that caliber. We aren’t that team.
We are a long way from even thinking about that. Our secondary play was not good. It could be exposed in league play. I hope not
I wish they would have put Thomas on #88 after the first three times Austin was beaten in coverage. Thomas was fine in the second half.
Interesting how the commentary a couple days ago was please lord play press coverage and dare Greg Ward to beat OU with his arm. Well here we are; the young man sure can sling it (and well the corners were TOAST). I love your stuff, Jordan, but Ward Jr got you on this one.
I think it was a lot more us than him. Ward really wasn’t that accurate, and on a lot of his throws if we’d had a DB contesting the outcome would have been different. If Ward were all that accurate, we’d have lost by a bunch more. Our pass coverage, especially in the first half, was simply piss-poor.
Perhaps; but the defense took away his legs and all the guy did was make plays on third down all day long with the corners playing more than enough press coverage to intimidate a shaky passer. All I’m saying is kudos to the opposing QB. He got questioned and answered despite several inaccurate passes.
I’m cool with that. The UH receivers dropped their fair share, too. It’s really hard to overstate just how poor the defense was in the 1st half.
First half was pretty bad, no doubt.
and the offense in the second half.
Probably right but I’ve heard enough of “it’s technique, not a talent thing.” It might be a little of both based on what I saw.
Ward was remarkably average. I give him credit that he didn’t make any significant mistakes but, as you said, it’s not like he was threading the needle. More like threading the broad side of the barn because someone like Austin was busy tackling a blocker.
He sure as heck did. Though to be fair I didn’t expect OU’s DBs to suck the big one. Still though, I was dead wrong re: my assessment of how this one would go. All credit to Houston.
Houston played a great game, but it is about what I thought in terms of their offensive point production (to be fair, though, I thought they would get more production on the ground). I was really surprised that we could not put up more points; that is where I miscalculated.
Swing and a miss. Babe Ruth still has the record for most strikeouts but he’s one of the all time greats. On to ULM.
Yes, our secondary being so horrible was very, very surprising. This is a veteran group; WTF happened? I get Austin, and yes he was terrible, but this seemed like a breakdown across the board, including W. Johnson. Where’s the Johnson from freaking last year, who was an absolute menace?
Takes a big man to admit his wrong. I can respect that.
Tackling, press coverage were all a disaster. We would leave Austin in press on an island and they would play pass and catch. 2nd half they got away from this and it helped.
but, we did shut down ward and his running game. we just failed to understand he has become a better passer. those 3rd downs killed us.
Texas high school spread attacks are becoming the AAU of CFB.
Switch QBs for each team and the outcome would have been the same.
Switch RBs, ditto.
Switch coaching staffs, and I think you would have the opposite outcome.
Agree or disagree?
Only if their O-line and receiving coaches have fairy pixie dust. But you still could be right. I’ve never been fully sold on Bedenbaugh, despite how much love he gets.
If the talent level overall is even or swings in OU’s favor, the only difference-maker left is with the coaching.
What did each coaching staff do with their talent? That was the most important match-up of the game IMO.
I guess I’m saying I’m not convinced that we had the talent edge at WR, though I have to think we *did* have the talent edge on OL. But overall, yes, we’re clearly higher on talent, and Herman did more with less.
And that’s what I would say is the definition of good coaching – getting the most out of your players. Hats off to Herman, he beat Stoops handily in that department.
didn’t see it at the time, the fg return for td……….hearing on the post-game that herman called for the return setup after the t/o, ou didn’t recognize it and bobby lit into boulware after it was over………..sounds like bama/ aub replay of ’13
Yeah, there was some coaching blame to go around. Have to be prepared for the return on all 50+ yard FGs these days.
A forced balanced attack is worse than the forced PC acceptance.
At least I’m glad to find out we’re not as good as we hoped now instead of later. Would rather not go to the playoff at all than have a repeat of last year. Beat up on an SEC also-ran in the cotton bowl instead.
Usually I’m not a fire Stoops guy. But it’s time for him to go. He’s a great man and good coach. But how many times does it take for us to come out unprepared against an inferior opponent and lose? I know Houston is good, but with the athletes we get we shouldn’t get beat like that. His in game adjustments are nonexistent, or suck. He is out coached at least once a year. I think it’s time to move on. He had a great run, but I dont want to turn into Vtech with Beamer.
Wouldn’t go that far until you can present better options. Any names who are available?
Fuente,Shaw,Herman
Yeah that whole “who else ya gonna get?” argument went out the window with me a few years ago.
Last I checked we took a young guy named Stoops. He did well for a while, but it’s not the same anymore.
Of those three, Fuente is the only one OU would have a chance getting, and he’s just getting settled in with V-Tech.
We could offer as much if not more than Houston. And I agree Shaw is a stretch but worth a shot. You asked me to name nnames of people I’d take over Stoops and I gave you one.
Fair enough. Stoops’ stock is not exactly very high at the moment.
Of course looking at the big picture is what must be done. What’s missing from OU is one thing, getting that next NC. If there’s another coach out there who has a greater likelihood of accomplishing that goal, bring him. Shaw is an impressive coach, but if he leaves Stanford I think it will be for the NFL.
The problem is, there are very few programs who have consistently won at OU’s level since Stoops arrived. It’s really hard to argue with his overall record. It’s just that ultimate goal of another NC isn’t being reached.
Improving talent will help when matching up against teams like Clemson, but the talent should have been sufficient for this game against Houston. Stoops and staff didn’t have their team as ready as Herman’s team. It’s that simple.
Actually I would trade both Stoops for Tom Herman.
We’d probably have to sweeten the deal to get Houston to agree.
Just kidding, Herman’s going to get some texsa money soon. Or if Strong has a really good year, Herman may get some aggie money.
we could probably get Lane Kiffin lol
Probably so, but is he really a “better option.” Talk to the folks at Tennessee and USC. lol
Chris Peterson at UW, Gary Patterson TCU, Justin Fuente. Just a few, you ain’t getting a Saban, Fisher, or a Myer!
Not yet sold on Peterson, although he might make a strong statement this year. Patterson has done a good job at TCU without a doubt. Premature with Fuente, let’s see what he can do with V-Tech.
Would I expect a better season next year with any of those coaches? I doubt it.
Well my point was throwing names out there. No we shouldn’t have expected as much as we all did coming in. TBH when Stoops down plays everything in the offseason like he was that should of been a tell tell sign we was in trouble. But all we knew was the 3 DB’s and Mixon, and Perine, Andrews, and MAyfield where coming back let’s get that #8 when in reality we was in a lot more trouble than we expected. Not saying we can’t still run off a good run, they will fix things and get better as they go. but, in a reality 10-3,9-4, 8-5 may not be so far off! There is a reason SS17 is looking good they telling them you may be able to play as a freshman and when I say may, I mean will!
Maybe Kirby Smart.
A bit early on him wouldn’t you say. And would he really leave Georgia if he has a good year?
Tom Herman.
At this point, I don’t think many Sooners would be opposed to that switch. Although he’s more likely to soon be wearing puke orange sadly.
That being said, OU needs to take care of the current texsa coach, which they didn’t do last year.
I’d be okay with giving Cale a shot…
He’s pretty much already there. He’s a 10 win guy and that’s his ceiling now. The bad part is there’s another clunker coming to a conference team we should beat and we haven’t play tOSU yet.
I knew someone would start the puke talk.
You’re going to puke? Make it to a trash can.
It happens every year. I could script it. We have a bad loss, someone who hardly ever is on this site comes in with the FIRE STOOPS, FIRE RILEY, FIRE EVERYONE crap. You might notice UH earned 19 points. We gifted them 14 points on stupid mistakes. The coaches had nothing to do with that.
Coaches could have made them a bit more aware that fg’s can be returned for td’s. What was the second gift?
Especially after a timeout,and watching that returner standing under the fg.
As soon as I saw the kick was short and he caught it, I said, NO WAY he runs that back…and that quickly changed to no way, HE IS RUNNING THAT BACK!
It wasn’t on the defense. It is a given to cover if the kick is short. I can’t believe a coach hasn’t reminded them of that fact, it would be interesting to poll the FG team to see if they have been told about a short kick coverage. I would definately put that one in the stupid mistake basket.
But they did with the soft defense on 3rd down. The lack of preparation after a timeout on the short field goal. Our offense ineptitude after the 1st quarter. The predictability on short downs. I agree sometimes it’s about the Jimmy’s and Joe’s not x’s and o’s. But we are constantly out coached and prepared in game’s that we shouldn’t be.
Tell me how I’m wrong though.
Setting aside the contractual payout and the impact on the recruiting cycle, doesn’t it seem a bit premature to fire a coach 1 game into the season for losing against a top 15 team that beat FSU last year, particularly when that coach is coming off a Playoff appearance. If you are the AD, do you really fire that guy? You would not at the very least see how the season plays out?
No way ohioSoonerdevildog thinks it should be right this very moment…I think he just means generally speaking. He’s been on here a while. But then again, I am not him. lol
That statement “But it’s time for him to go” caught my eye. If that is the call, then it is time to separate with Bob regardless of season outcome, right? I mean, even if he wins the National Championship, it is just time to part ways. Just seems a bit knee-jerk if that is what he is saying.
I think it is. How many time’s do we have to have a predictable loss against inferior opponent’s does it take? Not to mention the questionable hires of assistant coaches.
Ha! That is why we do what we do for livings and Boren does what he does for a living. I dunno off the top of my head how many head coaches have been fired after winning a national championship, but I believe Solich is the only one I can think of. Nebraska has been wandering in the wilderness every since.
You’re right. And I’m saying it’s time to question some of those decisions. Obama gets paid a lot to make decisions and we see how that’s worked out. People make mistakes and hit a ceiling. And sometimes its just time to move on.
I think it is important to be critical of leadership, as you suggest. Not that my opinion counts for much, but for what it is worth, Stoops has earned some deference with me; last year in particular. Also, not trying to suggest that you are not entitled to your opinion and read (trust me when I say I suspect I am as frustrated as you, if not more), just think we do well to show solidarity and support in times of adversity by not hauling out the guillotine every time we lose. Seems to happen a lot.
Okay, not really getting in this argument, but the NC was 17 years ago!
Ha! “I am not getting in the pool . . . I am just getting in the water.”
I was not referring to 2000. I was asking OSDD whether he thought it was better to part ways with Stoops regardless of remainder of the season (including if he won a NC this year). I believe he said he wants to see Stoops go even if he wins an NC this year; my opinion differed.
I just want to know what would give you any inkling we have the coaching or talent to win a nc this year? Do I believe we’ll improve? Yes. But when does the next loss to a down texass team, or under manned taco tech team come? And if it does his seat should be red hot. You have to admit this offensive game plan was a disaster. I know Pwrine got banged up. But we have 2 nfl caliber rbs and they get 13 carries? I know the oline struggle, but they did against Tennessee last year too, but the body shots wore off in the end. Not toention our 1st string wrs couldn’t get separation, so why not try the young guy’s?
That is a different question. I do not think it is possible for us to win the conference, let alone an NC, with today’s game play and game plan. Agree with you on game plan, and will go a step further and say I was hugely disappointed with a lot of the execution. I just think Stoops can correct those errors, we have the time and season in front of us to do it, and I think Stoops has earned the opportunity to make those corrections. Plus, I buy frozen hot wings in bulk. Too much wasted money if I give up on the season already.
I’m not saying fire him now. But he needs a good long look after this year. Houston is a good team no doubt. But name a time in the last 10 years we haven’t lost to a team we were supposed to beat. It’s a reoccurring theme. I don’t mind losing. But not to inferior opponent’s year in and out.
But if that is the standard, isn’t the same also true for Alabama? I think you have to go back like 8 years or so before Saban has not lost to a team he was supposed to beat. Maybe we watch the season out and see how it plays; evaluate him on body of work.
I’m cool with that. But Saban also has how many championships in that span?
Remember, your standard was to make a determination WITHOUT respect to the outcome of the season, so Saban’s many championships are irrelevant under your standard. Which highlights my point, outcome of the season should affect our thought. Wait with me good buddy and let us see how the season plays out.
I hear what you’re saying. And believe me, it took a lot for me to type that. I’ve never been a big fire Stoops guy. But this is a yearly occurence, and no ncs to show for it. I haven’t given up hope on the season quite yet. But if we do lose to another team we aren’t supposed to his seat has to be red hot. If we lose to tosu in a close fought game, I’m cool with that. But we have no business losing to Houston by 10 and the game was really worse than that. My point was though is yes Saban does lose to inferior opponent’s, but he bounces back and wins a nc. We haven’t won one in 17 years. Believe me I live 25 minutes southeast of Columbus and no one will be rooting for us harder than I in that game. But I cant take another terrible loss to texass or tacho tech with a game plan Stoops signed off on.
With you. I cannot take another one either. Looking for Stoops to bounce back in a big way.
you mean we have a chance against ULM?
As long as we have a Perine, we have a chance. :^)
Guess I should’ve read this comment before typing my last response, thought you were a lot closer to the edge than you are.
I hate losing games period, but what I hate even more is losing games where one part of the team (or the whole team in some instances) doesn’t show up to play or plays undisciplined. That happened today and that is what has to stop.
I can handle getting out played when we give it every thing we had and just weren’t the better team that day (Boise State was that kind of game if you ask me). But what I can’t handle is games like last year versus Texas or the year before versus Clemson where it’s like the team forgot to get off of the d***ed bus. That is what I can’t stand and that is what I am tired of seeing. Today the secondary and most of the offense didn’t get off the d***ed bus and it was just disgusting to watch.
Hopefully, this teaches them they can’t just sleep walk and win. They have to show up and be ready to play the game because no one who knows and respects the history of OU football is going to simply roll over and let you win if they believe they have a chance to beat you.
I understand your frustration, but I will point out that one of Saban’s supposedly inferior opponents in a game he lost within the last 5 years was OU. And if I remember right, he lost that game by the exact amount of points Alabama was favored by in that game, 14 points.
I’m not trying to say today wasn’t a terrible day, but losses happen to everyone – not just Bob. And before we go down the road of “Bob consistently loses big games”, The Ohio State University, who most of the people who would like to see Bob leave would place at the top of college football right now and who everyone seems to think we need to catch up to, has played in one less championship game than we have since Stoops became head coach at OU. Care to take a guess at know how many of those championships they have won? Just 1. Just like us.
Don’t let the media’s spin get the better of you either, because Ohio State hasn’t faired much better over the last 18 years in bowl games. They’ve lost 7 times and we’ve lost 9, but you know what else? They also had two years where they didn’t even make it to a bowl game ( 1999 and 2012) when we did.
Bottom line, we aren’t as far from the perceived top of college football as people would have you believe.
But that’s just my .02 and as you can see, it’s not worth too much!!
i seem to recall this conversation after every loss every year.
Me neither man. But I feel ya. He is such a great guy, and has been so good, but these games we should win, that we lose, is just so damn frustrating. And its becoming routine. Now, I wouldn’t really be shocked if we regroup and damn near run the table either. But its these big games, and ones where we are more talented, and just the way we just dont plain show up. Its sickening. I want fire! Every game!
That’s what I’m saying. He really is a good man. But there’s no excuse for such an inept offense and defense at times. It really is routine now that we lose to team’s that we shouldn’t. That’s what bugs me.
lets go for herman.
on a more pleasant note, allie laforce for cbs cfb is kinda nice to look at……..
almost forgot, there was quite a earthquake tremor in okc this am………..the strongest I’ve ever experienced
Yeah for sure, It was insane!!
Yeah, the day started like a Shakespearean omen.
look at the bright side, you guys linebacker had a good game, and keith ford scored a td today
Can’t believe I’ll be pulling for USC tonight. Sad what a bad loss does to a man
I always root against the SEC. With all these losses today, Houston may not affect OU as much as we thought…
I do the same. Watching LSU get rolled making me feel better already
Its times like these that I’m thankful I moved to Denver. A little herb goes a loooong way to ease the pain. lmao!
A little jealous right now
No hangover for you.
Nope, but beer is good. Mmmm.
No sticks, no seeds, no stress. -Calvin Broadus
Sticky-icky-icky.
-SNOOP! Snoop-a-loop!
The evil weed is not so evil.
Directions to your place please
Didn’t we have one of our best springs and best camps ever? Hale quoted Bob as saying they studied all of Houstons game films starting last February? What the heck happened? We look out of sorts, confused, almost apathetic and at times just plain stupid.
Ya’ll need stop going aggy and man up. You guys will be beating theOSU in a few weeks. Give UH some credit (you do realize this was their super bowl), the have no real shot of getting in the CFB playoffs unless they win every game by 20. I can’t let you guys get too far down.
I like this guy.
Thing is, we are fed up with losing games we should not lose. Effing SUX!
I don’t know who your team is, but you are just a ray of sunshine. I want to believe….I want to so bad…
OU beats tOSU ? okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. whatever you say…..I think Sooner fans are looking at a 5 loss team —-easily the most disappointing of BS tenure…….
GO AWAY
maybe 3, but they beat OSU…as Texas fanatic I’ve studied OU in the Stoops area…I know how this team does
You aren’t making sense. If you know after 1 game that this team has some holes, how the f$% can you say it will be the most disappointing team? In other words, with the holes, they cannot be expected to have a great year! Hence, there should be no expectation!
When will you just admit that you’re a Whorn? Stop this game dude…
that’s what Bob was saying in the 3rd Q : ‘stop the game’….quit drinking the koolaid and maybe your vision will improve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyCfp_Zz5Ek
SLOW CLAP. WELL DONE SIR.
Well, didn’t you post OUsucks2016 in another thread?
no I posted #OUSUCKS2016
So the hash mark somehow radically changes the message?
no, the capitalization of the word sucks…
heh. whorn makes a funny!
So many new faces on this thread.
When we lose we gain.
In the old days we commiserated and drowned our miseries at the sports bar….now we get drunk at home and commiserate here.
less chance of a DUI…
Let’s remember Joe Castiglione agreed to play Houston in Houston (neutral site). He didn’t learn from BYU in Jerry’s World. One thing is certain, Ohio State tickets just dropped in value.
I disagree. It’s still OU vs tOST. If anyone wants to give your tickets away due to the overwhelming feeling of depression about the loss today. I will gladly take them off your hands. ?
The stands were pretty comfortable in the 90s.
I was there in the 90’s. The stands were always comfortable…lol…but this aint the 90’s.
We are talking free tickets?
LSU O can’t move the ball at all. Maybe our O isn’t so bad after all…..
Four jobs up for grabs. No matter who returns.
https://twitter.com/T_Brown25/status/772153059187261440
Not sure about the sonnet squad? That reads like haiku
Glad to hear SS17 isn’t abandoning ship!
If the name of the game is immediate playing time, today did nothing but solidify SS17.
Opportunities do seem to be available.
If I’m a recruit, I’m looking hard at OU for early playing time.
Tyrese and Marquis and Creed need to get here ASAP
O-Line play was a mess. Got to get it together fast.
No excuse with three returning starters.
No excuse, just have to start executing as a unit.
Broiles too.
Why? Our WRs are terrible but none of of young guys can get on the field.
Picking NC to beat UGA
LSU taking it in the shorts. SEC tears make the best pain killers
It helps..If only texsa and ND could both lose it would seriously help. I’m thinking beating Ohio St is the only thing that will truly do the job.
They could go to quadruple OT in a 3-3 tie… winner makes it 6-3, after a missed fg by other team. Could that suffice?
Probably best possible scenario. And we know from their last matchup bevo’s offense is totally capable of such a noteworthy performance
I could go with that for sheer humorous value.
Does anyone get tired of these Boise State type Deja Vu moments over and over. Getting to be “the team” that continually gets sneaked up by a “lesser” opponent. God, it gets old.
That said and off my chest, I hope they dig deep, come together and at least win the Conference and a Bowl game. BOOMER SOONER still!
Bob loses every David vs Goliath matchup he plays. All of them.
Crappy trend. Tired of making lesser programs feel good about themselves.
Unfortunately, I think the number of “lesser” opponents is dropping quickly.
I’m not sure that we’re superior to these teams anymore. We are in ways like tradition, history, expectations and reputation. As a blue blood, our program’s cache is deeper … but on the field, our Jimmys and Joes don’t seem to be much different than many of our opponents.
Teams like KU, ISU and ULM can’t keep up, but virtually every other team on our schedule would not stun me if they topped us. I hate feeling like that, but we’ve been down this road too often.
But I do think we will regroup and get better, possibly win the Big 12 and a bowl game. Definitely BOOMER SOONER still!
Still not upset enough to call the season a loss as a whole. I saw some good things today, promising. I never belive the hype, just my eyes. There is work to be done. More film study and attention to keys at the LB and DB levels. Baker must learn to trust his receivers. They need to believe he truse them. Let them go get one for you. O-line is more physical than last year, but I expect to see a change at center and right guard. Let’s go boys!
Baker just needs to take more shots.
Its just. The offense. So not “air raid.” Not even an air raid roster. Two NFL rb’s and they get 13 carries combined? a few swing passes? thats it?
Yep. He still holds on to the ball too long. Let the other scholarship players earn it…
He really does. Its like he thinks he’s protecting us in some way. Let it fly man. Let it fly.
Next step in becoming a complete quarterback.
he needs to trust his receivers and throw them the ball. they might surprise him and fight for it and make the catch.
Be honest guys, were any of you surprised by our secondary? How about our receivers? I wasn’t. I was surprised we didn’t run the ball more because the staff has to know our receiving Corp is inadequate.
Secondary was shocking.
Agreed.
12 combined rushes should never happen.
We didn’t run the ball more because the staff also knows our O-line couldn’t get good push against 90-pound old women
their pass protection was much better than ours.
I was surprised by our secondary, but you had a very mobile QB that made getting pressure difficult. We traded pressure for making sure he didn’t beat us with his feet. That forced our DBs to cover longer than they were capable, and we got torched every 3rd down. Made for a bad result.
So I was having to work during the game, but I listened. Have some questions people that watched. What groups were the positives on O and D? I know the secondary was atrocious on 3rd downs. Front seven? Obo? Which freshmen got pt? What bright spots for O? Receivers were ok, right?
Offensive positives were Mark Andrews and Baker Mayfield…defensive positives were the ability to contain Ward from running…otherwise we got beaten bad on both sides of the line and our secondary was consistently beaten.
I thought the d line did pretty well from what I heard? Some people were calling for more blitzes though. I know I asked so thanks for the response.
There definitely needed to be more blitzes.
Rushing stat line for G Ward Jr. for the game: 18 carries, 1 yard, .1 yard average for the whole game. Duke Catalon their RB had 22 carries for 88 yards, 4 yard average for the whole game. Neither scored a rushing TD.
Houston was forced to kick field goals on 4 trips to the redzone despite being inside the 20 yard line on all but one of them.
D-Line did what they were supposed to do.
LBs played well minus 2 plays in the redzone where they lost track of a RB and a FB for TDs (the only two Houston’s O scored today). Replacing as many LBs as we did, I am not surprised there were some busts and that Houston made us pay for them in the first game of the year.
Secondary played horrible, you would’ve thought we had 3 new players back there instead of only one. Average yards per pass for Houston for the game was 8 and they converted 9/17 third downs, most of which were of the 3rd and 10 or more type (extremely frustrating to watch).
Offense looked absolutely inept as many have said. Minus a few big plays that went for TDs (Andrews and Mixon), this is where my concern (along with the secondary) will be for the remainder of the season. We had two fumbles that ended two drives inside the Houston 40 yard line and only averaged 2.7 yards a carry rushing. O-Line did a good job with pass pro as Baker had almost all day to throw most plays, but running lanes were not there and the WRs did not do a good job getting separation.
Special teams motivation (i.e. every play counts) continues to be a major problem as Houston had a kick 6 that basically broke our back and put us in a 16 point hole following a missed 54 yard field goal attempt.
Mentally and discipline wise, this team has to toughen and grow up. 5 pentalties for 66 yards, 3 of which extended drives that should have ended with punts for great field position for our O and 2 that helped Houston get inside the redzone and throw the passes to the RBs out of the backfield that resulted in TDs (assuming I am remembering correctly.
Didn’t get to watch the game like normal because I had to work (so I missed most of the 4th quarter), but these were my initial thoughts on the game.
well they contained ward running but never pushed the o-line back and rarely were in the backfield to put pressure. it was probably by design but they just stood pat to keep the QB from running wild.
The 3rd down defense was what lost the game. Dakota Austin got abused. The defense never looked to pressure Greg Ward. But it wasn’t very offer they sent more than 4. It’s like we were just waiting to see what they wanted to do and then reacted. The offense wasn’t bad but they weren’t great either. There weren’t nearly enough run plays called. There was a fumble that really wasn’t a fumble there are just idiot refs. Too many foolish penalties on third down. I remember two roughing the passer penalties and two PI calls on Dakota Austin which both were bull if you ask me. We started running out of time so it made us one diminsional and they started dialing up pressure which Baker had enough time there just either wasn’t anybody open or hell I don’t know. We weren’t prepared to play a team who was gonna put up a fight if you ask me. I guess they thought they were just gonna let us win.
3rd down defense was atrocious. No doubt about it. How did Obo do along with the other linebackers? Kelly get any action?
If he did it wasn’t noticeable. Obo had a busted cover that lead to a TD. Had some pressure.
Obo had a few tackles that saved TDs too if I remember right.
Well he needed a few more td saving tackles.
Unfortunately, he’s only one player and can’t be everywhere. Was bummed when he didn’t cover the RB out in the flat, but I thought he had a pretty good game as an individual minus that TD and the stupid roughing the passer call he got on 3rd and long.
Well those two things resulted in at least 10 pts which is what we lost by.
True, we did lose by 10 points. But I don’t think you can blame the loss on one player’s mistakes after this watching this game.
The kick 6 is what I feel broke our back and the two fumbles on offense certainly didn’t help matters much either. Although, I should only say one because only one of them was legit.
Unfortunately, the refs counted it, so I have to too.
I’m not blaming it all on him. Point is he didn’t play great. His actions cost us 10 pts.
Fair enough, here’s to hoping we don’t make the same mistakes for the rest of year.
Agree 100% with everything you said except your last sentence and especially on the PI calls on Dakota.
Not to be the contrarian (I’m about to be the contrarian) but I don’t think Houston was THAT much of a lesser opponent. It certainly wasn’t a juggernaut against directional state U or anything. And that defense was oh so legit. Those guys could run with the big boys and did. A sloppy offensive performance against them would’ve earned us a loss and that’s exactly what happened.
Their defense was impressive, especially in the second half. Greg Ward was as good as advertised, although not for the reason we were expecting. They’re a solid team and it shouldn’t be shameful to lose to them on the road. Yet, it still hurts.
Well said/typed.
coaching makes all the difference in the world. herman made those young men believe they could win, and they did. i wish we had him before texas gets him.
Not ready to close the book on stoops just yet but I’m willing to acknowledge the other side of that coin and say that Herman is heading towards a great coaching career at his school of choice probably.
former recruits/players…….
— wariboko on ucla roster but not 2 deep
— jalen barnett on husker 2 deep
— joshua jacobs, mystery tulsa player, in 4 back rotation for bama
— tmac, transfer to usc, is no 1 te on 2 deep
Lincoln Riley isn’t a $950K OC by any stretch of the imagination. This University is to quick with the reactionary raises and now we’ll be stuck with the reality of Riley for years to come because nobody will pursue a buyout given his salary vs. performance.
Ouch. Pump the brakes man.
Lol, wow
Totally agree in the last four quarters we played in the second half he’s only managed to get one touchdown
We seriously just went through offseason where we were celebrating that he didn’t take the head coaching jobs offered to him. Yall have him on a surprisingly short leash.
Mark Andrews needs to be targeted at least 6 times a game. It’s criminal not to use our best 1-on-1 matchup continually.
Funny to see how quick all the haters are back. But I guess you can say the same thing about me as I don’t post much either. I just can’t wrap my ahead around this team and this game. A SUPER frustrating loss indeed, but I am still cautiously optimistic as it is far from the end of the world. At least it is early and non-conference (yes that helps) against a good team. Usually only one or two teams go undefeated, so if we win out we will still be in the CFP. We made it in with a loss last year, and that loss was probably worse than this one.
The frustrating thing to me is that this was completely self-inflicted. We were not outplayed. We just shot ourselves in the foot over and over again. Too many dumb penalties and horrific third down defense killed us. But the hopeful part is that these are correctable mistakes. So to me the jury is still out on this team. It can still be a good year, but we do need some rapid improvements (especially OL/secondary/WR) to pull that off.
I don’t think our mistakes are correctable with the same players. Not one receiver from last years squad can be counted on to catch up the ball consistently. Westbrook and Andrews are good, but not someone Baker is sure will catch the ball. The secondary is what it is, can’t cover. If we would just be honest we knew these things before today.
agree with you completely….time to try some different players. they can hardly do poorer than some of the upper classmen did today.
And just like that LSU leads. Sigh
We’ve been out coached for the last 8 years. I admit I was excited about the prospect of this year given the resurgence last year. If your honest though last year was all Baker not Stoops. Stoops continues to look done in my opinion. O line is out of sync and M. Stoops rushing only 3 lineman was asinine. I just keep thinking how many more years of my life do I have to wait to have a N.C., type of team again. 16 and counting
Maybe they can turn it around again but I won’t get my hopes up
Okay, well you really havent waited 16 years to see a “NC type of team,” considering we did get to 3 other NC games, and were completely competitive in 2 of those….
True, your right about that. It’s been 8 years since the Florida game. That’s a long time and really we have not had a team talented enough to get back. Stoops really needs this class of “17 to stay together because that is what wins. Recruiting can cover up for coaching.
But with the talent level mentioned above (or lace thereof), maybe Stoops’ coaching has covered up recruiting.
Things that make you go, hmmmmm.
Recruiting is a direct result of coaching. They have to recruit the players. Its on them
i think a lot of us older guys are hoping for another dominating, undefeated national championship for Oklahoma before we die. i think Bud and Barry just spoiled us. It never looks good when you lose the first one. too many mistakes and poor coaching today. houston just wanted it more than we did. herman must be a hell of a motivator. i think we lack that on out team. we need more motivation.
Gabe Ikard cut by Detroit
Jamell Fleming cut by Kansas City
David King cut by Kansas City
Geneo Grissom cut by New England
Chuka Ndulue cut by San Diego
Nila Kasitati cut by Washington
Kendal Thompson cut by Washington
Sanchez cut by Panthers.
Did Striker make bills?
Nope
Considering most of those guys were “our studs,” it says a lot about the talent level stoops and CO has been coaching the last 5 years, and counting…
Absolutely, talent level has been way down.
Striker and Sanchez had been mentioned before. This is just an update.
Got ya. Thanks.
Sorry if that sounded dick-ish. Didn’t mean it to. It reads that way to me, though.
Oh no, I know you didnt mean it that way.
On the bright side, it seems Dom made the Browns roster.
Well hell, who couldnt make the Browns! Sorry Dom. lol
Looking at their cut list, I recognized three names.
Never thought I’d say this but never underestimate a Les Miles coached team.
Ha…I think the Badgers had a lot to do with it…lol
He coaches them up and wins a lot of close games.
I see where you are going..but if the Badgers stop the self inflicted wounding…they would be up 21-0
Sounds like a game I watched earlier today! lol
LSU gets a lot of NFL but they play a tough schedule every year. I’ve never been a fan of Miles and I loathe LSU but results mean everything
and Les’ well known deal with Satan…
OK. Signing off…not a 1 game season….
I was struck at how long Baker had to hold onto the ball to find a open receiver. We are obviously not very fast at WR. O line has got to gel or its 4-5 losses.
Mike Stoops needs to bring more d line pressure. Every time we rushed 3 Ward would complete a big play. Terrible game plane I thought. Reminded me of the Texas game plan
Mikes plan seemed to be make Greg Ward beat us by throwing the ball. It’s too bad he was happy to oblige. If Thomas had been put on #88 earlier it would have helped some, but overall the secondary was awful. I wish we could have had a couple of those Houston wide recievers on our team.
if Ward was more accurate over 20 yards this game would have been ugly.
he did miss a few wide open guys
If Bob Stoops was at Georgia he would now be at Miami.
I’m not surprised by how the offensive line played. Last year it was a constant work in progress, and we lost 3 starters from that line.
So, who’s excited to see Sam handoff to AD?
I am. I hope they tear up the league.
Today has been hard I can’t imagine being a Vikings fan.
<<<<——- This guy is a Cowboys fan
Rough, I have some cowboy friends. When Tony Romo finds another team I get $500. A bet 6 years in the making.
The past 21 years have been rough. I loved Herschel Walker. When he was traded to Minnesota, I rooted for the Vikings, too. Even had a Vikings jacket. Now with Sam and AD there, I might have to find that jacket.
The hipsters will be so jelly.
I was 10. It might not fit.
it ain’t hipster if it fits.
Even A&M has receivers…
The lack of separation by the WR’s has been mentioned several times now, and that is the reason I don’t think Mayfield did too bad all things considered. His protection was spotty at best, and he couldn’t unload the ball because no one was open. So for anyone who is complaining about him holding onto the ball too long, what would you prefer him to do? Throw interceptions?
Is it too early to strike AD Miller from the list of “breakout candidates”?
He had a nice catch on the sideline in the 4th. Only time I saw him get an opportunity. Mayfield need to let it fly more.
You can strike all WRs from that list.
Knight and Ford seem to be doing well…..
oooooops…int
Haven’t watched a whole lot, just heard Ford may have been injured.
Ford looked great until the injury. Hope he’s okay. Knight played really well also, a couple of wacky throws, but a whole bunch of really good ones and many under duress. Some nifty runs as well. Some good clutch play.
Seemed like Ward stuck it in there even though his receivers were well covered.
I love Cale Gundy. I don’t know why he was moved from coaching RB’s to inside WR’s but I think maybe, just maybe he needs to return to coaching RB’s and we need to find someone else to coach the inside WR position. I realize that this isn’t THE solution that solves everything but I didn’t ever see the necessity of the change in the first place, he seemed to having a great deal of success w/the RB as it was.
Thoughts?
I think it’s also affected us in recruiting RBs as well. Cale is/was a closer.
Yeah I was fairly unsure about the move. I don’t know what we are doing at WR. When I tell myself it’s talent I look at every other spread teams and see speedy low stars and sure handed walk ons.
Other teams just seem to have about twice as much time for the play to develop than we do, could it all be on the OL? Or, is it the OL and the receivers inability to separate?
We still seem like we are running the Heupel hurry up. This goes to the top
yeah, coaching has a lot to do with it for sure but Baker (or, insert QB name here) has no time and when he does, he runs for his life
O line is not up to snuff but Baker does not utilize a pocket.
I honestly think he can’t see from behind the line.
wondered about that, too- first reflex is to scramble to where you can see
Me too but he just possesses so much you can’t coach.
Maybe its too much. I’m beginning to feel all of his scrambling is causing him to get in his own way, and our O’s. He needs to be the thrower, and let it fly. Let the other guys run around.
Has to be something like this. 4-5 seconds should give plenty of time to hit ins, outs, slants, crossers, etc… IF he can see them.
I might not have seen things correctly, but I was positive Baker had lots of opportunities today where he had 4-5 seconds to throw, but still ended up scrambling. It cant be all oline. Baker has to make a decision, and get the ball into our playmakers hands.
A lot of times his scrambling creates openings in the defense that allow receivers to separate. Sometimes it works great, sometimes it results in negative plays. Overall, I would say his play has been a major positive for us.
I mentioned that when we were looking for ways to Hire Viney. I mentioned letting Boulware go, Let Viney do ST, let Simmons to both inside and outside wr’s and move Cale back to Rb’s. .So, I’m with ya is what I am saying, lol.
Happy for TK. I bet bama fans are already getting nervous, lol.
I understand the point of this thread, but geez they come out of the woodwork, don’t they?
Many people missed their calling, wasting time on a message board when they could be making millions coaching college football. 🙂
Too true Ray (if I may call you that). Maybe I’ll finesse my way onto their staff as a ball boy.
It’s just group therapy, right 😉
Yep, and the therapist took the day off.
you mean the inmates are running the asylum?
I mean, we ARE OKLAHOMA FANS. The Inmates have always run the asylum. Still, we arent Texas or Bama
Misery loves company. I’m sure most just venting some frustration. Understandable.
absolutely, count me among them
Well, maybe thousands.
You nailed it! I always laugh at the ‘I know a better way’ folks, or the ‘the season is over’ folks. Losing sucks, but give me a break!
You ain’t kidding. I’m frustrated, but there’s still a lot of football left to be played and a chance to improve.
I’m probably too obsessed with OU football. I was thinking driving home from watching the game that maybe I’d be happier if I stopped torturing myself and gave up this obsession, but I’m hopelessly addicted. Posting here has eased the pain.
I think we’re all a little obsessed! I just don’t quite get the whole ship is sinking thing. Not a good way to start the season off. Yes it is becoming an issue, but there’s a lot of ball left to play and I remember a similar sentiment before our run last year. Boomer!
I think Houston is a really good team and they obviously have a better Coach than we do but I’m not going to throw out the season just yet but right now Ohio State, Baylor, Texas Tech, Texas Christian, and Oklahoma State are all losses.
Lol. Clown post. No way OU loses all those games.
All of your tools were saying there was no way we lost to Houston either
Wish we had recruited Keon Hatcher. That dude is always making plays for Arky.
Whut ? I thought we recruited all these 6’4 receivers to use…..as pass catchers. ?
Maybe need some Amendola, Shepard, Edelman type ? ? Rebounds
TV said HU started preparing for this game last year. Looks like we should have ? ?
So, based on what we saw today- what’s our final record for the year?
Get beat by Houston, Ohio State, TCU, and one more. 8-4. Oh and a lot of coaches fired
I agree, except that I don’t think anyone gets fired.
Baylor, pokes and TTech also have a lot of success through the air… hmmm
Probably pretty good. Bob is exceptional at saving his job. But he is too fearful about injuries. Not tackling in the offseason is crap. We haven’t been tough since we lost Bradford in week one. Ever since that moment everyone is scared of injuries and draft stock. They forget he still went #1.
I think you are right. We play touch football all spring and everyone forgets how to tackle. Wonder why?
Well, Houston has been crowing their workouts are brutal. Maybe the roosters had a point.
8-4
I’m not ready this early on to think that. If there’s a game to drop this season, it’s this one. Let’s see how the fellows respond. I love my Boys in Crimson.
I love them too but they are going to face a lot of passing attacks that are better than what they were up against today.
Too early to predict. Depends on how the team and coaches respond. Laid an egg against tu last year and went on a tear. We could see that again or we could see a bad year. Tough to say.
I’m thinking we lose tOSU and TCU. Then for once in quite some years, maybe we go into Dallas with a chip on our shoulders and spank them. By or after whorn, we should hit our mid-season stride and finish out the year stronger. So, I guess 9-3 regular season, and just hope we win our bowl.
Hell I don’t understand why everyone is freaking out about the WR’s. Mayfield started 11-11 so something was working.
I know UH had the ball for what seemed like an eternity compared to our time of possession… our D got gassed early and then our O couldn’t help them out by sustaining anything
It did seem like they had it forever. Our defense on 1st and 2nd downs seemed to be really good. Especially against the run. 3rd and long was our achiles heal. How in the world can the secondary be so atrocious when we only lose one player from last year??
$64K question
They executed their game plan in the passing game very well and our secondary wasn’t prepared for what they were doing. They exploited a favorable size matchup against Austin frequently, and worked the back shoulder play to perfection. Tough to stop and we never came up with an answer.
Well we refused to run the ball so they couldn’t rest.
And LSU goes down in flames. The sun just peaked out…..a little
Can’t spell classless with out “Les,” am I right?
A 6 foot 5 recieved is never covered. You just need to throw it high.
All over but the crying in Baton Rouge. Feel our pain.
I’ve just never been a fan of schadenfreude.
I’d be a little happier if Bama went down.
SEC misery is always good.
Greg Ward had 18 carries for 1 yard today, which is the first time in awhile we haven’t let a primarily running quarterback run wild on our defense. So at least there’s that.
A bright spot in an otherwise crappy day.
He did what he needed to and that’s the only stat that matters
Now let’s see if USC can do something…
I’ve been very hesitant this offseason to get excited for OU football. Maybe it’s just getting older, but I think also that experience has taught me to not care until I get a chance to see the team in action against a good team. I guess I’m glad I didn’t buy into the hype – I’m still very disappointed, of course, but I’ve also learned to go do something I enjoy when I see the inevitable start to unfold. This game, I knew we were done for at the moment we let Houston march down the field for the field goal to end the first half.
I’ve come to the conclusion that there are 2 key differences between Mack Brown and Bob Stoops – Bob’s not a complete tool, and he has Joe Castiglione. The only thing saving us from being UTerus is that Joe knows how to put together an amazing staff. I’m sure Bob has a say in who gets hired as well, but one thing Bob has learned to do really well is trust Joe.
I’m not saying Bob is a bad coach. He’s not. But he’s lost….something. We simply aren’t prepared for teams anymore. There are occasions where our superior athleticism keeps us out of trouble against certain teams. But schematically, we frequently get beat. I can’t point to anything but coaching, because while the players bear some responsibility for being out of position, they’re not responsible for it for previous years that it’s been a problem.
I wish I could pinpoint the problem. All I know is that we have too many of these games where we just look clueless…particularly on defense. And that also goes back to my original point about putting together a good staff. When we have Leach, Mangino, Wilson, or Riley, we often overcome some of our other weaknesses. But we’ve only ever had Mike and Brent as DC.
I’m as appreciative as anyone for Bob’s efforts, and Mike’s too. I wish I could stand this kind of thing enough to let Bob be our coach until he retires. But I know I won’t get excited about OU football again until something changes at the HC level, or maybe the DC level.
The Clemson loss didn’t bother me as bad as this one, because it was CLEAR we were physically outmatched. Our recruiting has been better, so I hoped that had a chance to improve our outcome against great physical teams. But…that hope goes right out the window when we show up entirely unprepared…as is typical for a Bob Stoops team.
And, historically-speaking, this loss is just too much like 2005 TCU, and 2009 BYU, so I’m probably not going to watch much of this season moving forward. I have enough aggravation regarding people that don’t do their jobs well at work. I don’t need it in my entertainment as well. LOL
UCLA just tied a&m, late 4th
Aggies pull it out in OT.
love the kid Westbrook but he is a 2 to 3 receiver definitely not a 1 thought we caught some bad breaks as well hopefully were not makin the same mistakes few weeks from now …
For those who like a sure bet, here’s one that’s a virtual lock:
Despite LSU losing to a Wisconsin team that is not even ranked, OU will drop further in the polls than the kittens. Bank on it.
Fairly safe bet.
Who wins LSU vs OU?
Would have OU before today. Hard to say now.
0-0 tie in a display of utterly anemic offense
logic
Especially considering both showed the same problems: Subpar O-line performance combined with receivers unable to get open to save their lives
At least Wisconsin beat LSU, though…
So the game plan against Ward was to sit back and watch huh Mike? That’s all you could come up with?
Team lost, please cease the non stop mike bashing. Offense was just as bad if not worse considering the talent differential on each side of the ball.
Sorry JP, I’m not gonna stop until we are beating teams that we should.
Because you think Mike reads this, or cares?
I thought this thread was to vent let me check.
Nope it’s definitely for venting. You might ask them for a thread for sunshine pumping if you are looking to pump sunshine up people’s a$$es
Ok well then dish it out evenly. Mike is an easy target but just like last year he is NOT the sole reason we lost. Blame to go around.
Play calling wasn’t great. Two really good backs get 6 carries a piece? Baker has 6 foot 5 recievers and won’t throw it up for them. It all was head scratching.
That’s fine but don’t blame this on the defense. They clamped down the second half enough for us to win and the offense didn’t execute. Offense was horrible and we still had plenty of chances. That long Mixon catch goes for a TD and that trick play works and were walking out with a dub. Not to mention the countless penalties that led to points for them.
I mean they were awful in the first half. Houston never punted it in the half. They scored every possession.
It’s a VENT thread. Ignore what you don’t like, but let every guy make his gripe. Riley and the O were not too good, but something is wrong with the D when the other team converts third-and-anything almost every time.
Yep and something is wrong with the O when u basically score nothing in the second half against an inferior athletic team on that side of the ball. So ignore mine next time. Just tired of the same scape goats all the time. BB is everyone’s hero but Mikey is a liability. Is that accurate? I wonder. How long before BB is on the hook for his production on the field? I’m tired of watching our o line get whipped. I’m good hearing specific reasons why the D was the issue, but “hey, mike sucks” with no specific reasoning is old. What sucked? Personnel? Calls? What?
D was not good at all in first half, but second half was all on the O.
Sit back? We held a rushing QB to 1 yard running. We did something right.
Yes. If you told me that before the game, I would figure we win by 40. But how did we manage to turn that running QB into Tom Brady on every third down?
We were so determined to avoid getting beaten by the QB run, we gave him all day to throw on every 3rd down. Anyone can look great with no pressure and all day for receivers to get open.
Even that is only partially true though. How many of those third and longs did we bail them out with a PI penalty? How many of those third and longs did we pressure Ward out of the pocket, probably should have sacked him, only to have him scramble around and complete a long pass? Goes back to tackling and no stupid penalties.
You are RIGHT on that tackling thing. Early when it mattered most, we missed a lot of tackles on short passes.
I just want to see an OU team that is fired up to play a game and tackles.
We abandon the run too early, Obo is not Striker, missed to many tackles, Our Dbs got flat out beat play after play, and last but not least as good as OUr front 3 is (dropping 7-8 in coverage) it can not get consistent pressure, and its been our m o aginst mobile qb’s for years. This one stings boys….Time to go do a little dove hunting.
All will be glad to know that SEC dominance remains intact: The warrior hogs managed to overcome a mighty leviathan like La Tech by the convincing score of 21-20. Talk about making a statement!
Glad I waited all offseason for OU to stink it up.
Ok we got it Lane. Thanks.
I’m not gonna be over this for quite a while. Beating Lousiana Monroe isn’t gonna make things better.
I’m not saying we’re national championship caliber team, but if your going to lose, it’s better to lose early. It doesn’t hurt that we lost to a high ranked team and on the road.
It’s really how we lost. We looked totally unprepared. There’s no reason that we shouldn’t have been able to exploit their entire secondary.
The second half play by the offense was pretty disappointing. We had plenty of chances to get back into the game, and we got shut down. However, we hurt ourselves a lot with penalties, bad tackling, and terrible play calls. Hopefully we can improve fast.
How we lost is what hurt me the most. I can handle losing a competitive game, but I am so tired of losing games because a part of (or the whole) team seems to have failed to up ready to play. Last years Texas game and the loss to Clemson in the bowl the year before are the types of games I’m talking about. Today the secondary and the offense didn’t show up and the final score is a reflection of that.
Like throwing for over 300 yards?
If you gave me enough tries I could throw for that the point is that we weren’t that effective when we needed to be.
Pretty disappointing, I agree. Hoping the rest of the season is more fun.
Happy for Trevor, though. He’s a great kiddo.
Okay so after this lose , i just rewatched the game. the Interior Line needs a lot and i mean a lot of work. Dalton got buried like a lot. Cody Ford and Alvarez lost more than they should have. a bunch of missed blocking assgiemnts by not only the O line Jarvis Baxter missed a big one as well which the Line had actually blocked well . i couldn’t see all the routes being ran . so i have to assume that when they did block well and Baker is still sitting there waiting for people to be open … this is a route issue. get open already. be creative . I feel that I’m nearly done with Jeremy Mead as WR i feel he looks good in pads and thats the extent. I saw no heart in him to fight of that extra 2. same with Smallwood . dude looks good and thats it. the D line played well . Linebackers missed some tackles but that rub route that the H-Bacl/TE gy from Houston got really was Jordan thomas’s fault if oytu can’t see your guy blocking then idk what to say to you , Dunbar wasn’t hiding anything about that rub route block. J thomas should have saw that. so in closing thank you for allowing me to rant. O line sucks so far, WR suck so far, DB’s suck so far . Houston is Legit and BIG 12 Needs them .so lets pray we learned a lot . kill ULM and lets not repeat mistakes against Ohio ST in 2 weeks. Boomer Sooner
the Little 12 doesn’t need Houston. Boren wants Houston in the league to further dilute OU’s recruiting effort in Texas….
Texas football isn’t what it used to be.
Houston seems to have found some good players.
Houston is not as talented as we made them look. That was the result of good coaching.
Agreed, although I wouldn’t mind having their reciever number 88 on our team. 7 catches for 125 yards.
A big tall receiver who gets open and catches the ball? That would suck.
Boren doesn’t want Houston. What are you talking about?
In for Dustin.
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Awww, forget it. I’m bummed too, friend.
O-Line was a major disappointment. And if they thought UH was tough to push, just wait ’til they get a load of tOSU’s front 7. It’s practically not fair.
3 plays go differently and minus the penalties and we win by 14 plus. They were in no way better than us. I believe we lost that game rather than them beating us. Loved the idea of pressing their receivers but not with one of our corners Being the size of my younger sister. Penalties killed us. Riley needs to cut the bullshit and run the hell out of our running backs. I mean I understand Samaje went down but holy crap, we marched right down the field that first drive then went away from that. Ugly, ugly, ugly. I really wanted to shut up all the haters.
Too late to shut them up now.
I definitely agree with you man. We beat ourselves. Stupid penalties, missed throws, poor play calling at times, even burning timeouts at stupid times. I think this team will be okay but, damn, I needed a shower after watching that.
seriously?? excuses excuses….they had a ton of missed catches/throws as well….we forced no turnovers…they conveted most of their 3rd downs…scored on the first 5 or 6 possessions….we got flat out beat….we were far from winning
All of what you said was true but that one fumble was bogus. Those refs were idiots.
yea…i agree…but baxter should have held on to the ball and not let the refs make that call
Well there’s replay for a reason and it’s sad that they still get it wrong.
The early PI was shaky…but the roughing was soooooooooooo stupid – that “would have been” the only stop.
And on that – I know the coaches aren’t playing…and the players “have to be accountable”…but dumb penalties have been going on for several years.
agree but the suspect 1st pass interference call when we stopped them on 3rd down would have made the game completely different
Wow. Just Wow. I feel like the stupid Bama girl at the SB.
So, vent = HOW could a poor throwing (last year anyway) QB convert nearly EVERY long 3rd down? Austin got toasted, but OUr “first round” corner got beat some also. I guess Mike didn’t want to get beat by the QB running, so it came about the other way.
AND Riley – some very questionable play calling.
I LOVE my Sooners, but this opener is far more disappointing than 2005 with no veteran QB or 2009 where the QB was hurt.
This truly sucked and proved all our doubters right. Just going to be a tough one to deal with. Hoping the rest of the season is so damn good it makes us forget this one.
I’ve lost my voice already. I couldn’t believe we let that crub torch us for that many big gains on such crucial downs. When we pressured him he shat himself, when we let him sit there all day he was able to complete the passes. Ughhhhhhh
A Bama or Clemson loss would be a good way to end a bad day.
Well said, sir!
It would definitely make a shyt day a little better.
This really boils down to having the state of texas patches on the coaches shirts. No patches we win!!!
OK. I admire your optimism. I’ll try to adopt your attitude on this one. Who knows, if I drink enough I just might convince myself.
I was blaming the new-to-me OU hoodie my son passed on to me. And that I was too scared to have coffee out of the usual OU mug I used the morning of the Playoff loss (used a plain white one instead). And that I missed chanting “oooOOOO-U!!” at kickoff with any of my boys. And that as I left work yesterday when the security guard said “Have a great weekend!” I said “As long as OU beats Houston tomorrow, I will…”.
So as I see it, I’m at least partially to blame.
I’ve discovered we lose less when I just don’t watch. Sorry I exercised such poor judgment by watching today…..no excuse for it
haha…i thought we were in trouble when Baker’s picture is him “silencing” the critics. just bad optics on that pic.
Right now TK is thinking maybe losing the starting gig at OU wasn’t such a bad thing after all
The lowered expectations of Aggy might be just the thing he needs to have a good season. I think most of his problems were pressure related. He just couldn’t handle it when the heat was high.
BTW, hate the necessity of this thread – but grateful to TFB for putting it here.
Getting thirsty….hoping for some more SEC tears
I keep going back to the video where Dakota ran into a cheerleader, starts looking for a Pokemon, then tries to take down a member of the chain gang but doesn’t have enough lead in his ass to pull that off. Is that really the best corner OU has to put on the field right now? It was literally like watching a Keystone cop episode.
IS this the same play on kickoff coverage? where he whiffed, then attempted tackle on two blockers? Or is it another episode?
This one.https://twitter.com/FakeSportsCentr/status/772164269081239552
Yup, thats the one. lol
He had a lot of trouble, but I saw OUr vaunted #7 give up a play or two. The entire backfield that I thought would be strong was…not what I hoped….
This! He was like night and day from last year.
Gutsy young man, but not physically capable of matching up with good D1 receivers from what I just saw.
Has a big heart, just lacks some tools.
Something that is funny is all the hate the defense is getting…..but if you check out the prediction thread, most had Houston scoring at least as many as they scored, or more. Keeping in mind that their offense only scored 26, and 7 of that was when they were left with a short field. That’s not bad against that offense.
Riley called a Josh H worthy game – head-scratcher to me. The special teams also lost – no punts to field and their kicker got it deep on the many kickoffs. But the D did not stop Houston. If the O played well, we would have won. If the D made some stops, we might have as well.
I’ll offer some “grades” – Off = D-; Def = D (F on 3rd down); Special teams = D
I keep coming back to Perine. Once he left, we weren’t the same. It’s like Perine getting injured made us a headless chicken. And I think they were desperate and that’s why they kept putting him back in, but then clearly he wasn’t able to take it and had to come back out.
Also a little surprised they didn’t give Adams a shot. It’s not like they’re going to redshirt him with Anderson hurt. He might have had some of that youthful enthusiasm that could have given us a needed shot in the arm (sorry Perine).
Your grades are pretty generous. That’s certainly the best they deserve.
Posted this elsewhere but pasting it here as well-
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‘Bama vs USC: ain’t it grand to focus hatred in one place?
It is a nice position to be able to sit back and be happy if either team loses.
So….when was the last time we lost a season opener?
2009? I think
2005 TCU, 2009 BYU.
Thats what I was thinking
no more neutral field openers
Agreed!
I’m not sure if 2009 or this one hurt worse. This one sucked a lot, but we killed ourselves over and over, and Houston is ranked #15. 2009 had Bradford go down, and losing to BYU to add the extra crap cherry to the sundae. Why did I think about this?
great, now I have to go buy a sundae
Best not to dwell on this topic. Like a slow spiral into the abyss.
Luckily for me, I’ll be attending 3 of the next 4 games in person, so I won’t have to read the crazy talk that shows up in the game threads should we lose or not play well.
I think we’ll show improvement. Not sure 2 weeks is enough to get everything fixed before Ohio State, but I think the team will come out fired up for that one, so you never know.
It’s not crazy, we lost. Of course there’s going to be criticism and especially because the way we lost. We aren’t OSU fans. Losses are never acceptable.
It sounds crazy to me. Grown ass men acting like OU football is life or death. I love OU football as much as the next guy, but I’ve grown out of the stage of being a baby about a loss. Criticism and what I’ve read here tonight are two completely different things.
You are free to leave or block anyone you choose.
Wish I could be there too. Hope our Sooners improve dramatically and put on a great show. I’ll be watching from the couch.
Be sure to move to a flame retardant seat when we play WV.
I’ll keep plenty of cold beer on hand to deal with any excessive heat.
I was just thru Morgantown a few weeks ago. I still think I smelled something burning.
Although I hate both teams passionately… Go Trojans! A Bama and/or Clemson loss would make today a little easier
No doubt. Rooting hard for USC tonight and Auburn
Former OU TE playing for usc though
And just made a heckuva grab
He made a like a 4 yard catch. Was wondering if that was our player. Forgot he transferred.
2 rec so far
A one-handed 4 yard grab.
Maybe they will prove me wrong… But playing a true freshman qb and rb will finally come back to bite Bama this year
I sure hope you’re right. I’ve thought that many times before.
Me too, but correct me if I’m wrong but they’ve never had a true freshman backfield during this run they’ve been on. Plus they are breaking in a new center.
Im not real sure about that. I think you’re probably right though.
Maybe. But they also don’t have a very tough schedule outside of tonight and the late season game at LSU.
Neither are true freshman.
Blake Barnett and Damien Harris are both true freshman
Nope both are redshirt look it up.
Barnett is a true frosh from Cali and Harris was the top rb in the country from Kentucky
You’re right.. My fault. But neither have valuable game experience so they might as well be freshmen. All these recruiting classes run together haha
Think your right. Rewatched that Clemson/Bama game and their qb last year (name is gone) made some clutch plays or they lose that game. Can’t count on freshman to make those plays in huge games.
Coker was the qb if I’m not mistaken. Transfer from fsu
Thank you. Bama qb’s don’t get much credit for being good players, but if be doesn’t have the game of his life they wouldn’t have won. Clemson I’m still convinced was the better team.
I’ll say this. We can’t roll with Austin at CB.
Word.
No! He was terrible! It was so obvious.
He played better once he was reinserted. I’m hoping he plays better going forward, b/c we don’t have many options behind him. Cobb looked okay, but I’m not sure I want a true freshman out there either. That big #88 was a terrible matchup for Austin. I’m guessing he plays better.
It doesn’t matter. At this point, if Cobb is the truth let him play. Austin isn’t.
The truth? lol, this isn’t a rap song.
My point still stands. Find something besides my verbiage to pick on, mmmkay?
I’ll say this…we can’t roll with Mike Stoops reverting to the “load up on DBs and take LBs out of the game “philosophy. Tavon Austin nightmares resume…
Thing was, really the biggest problem was on third down. Most of the game they didn’t do squat on first and second down. Wtf?
Yup. I say live or die by Cobb at this point. If Mbanasor couldn’t beat that guy out, he’s never going to see the field.
Exactly. Austin will get abused all season against bigger physical receivers.
Go condoms!
Trojans are disposable.
The funny thing is if the Condoms beat Bama then Bama is still in the thick of it for the NC. We lose to Houston and we’re out.
Yep. Sadly it’s the truth. I joked that LSU’s loss to an unranked Wisconsin pushes them down to #6, but the reality is they’ll probably be ranked higher than OU.
Exactly. Almost doesn’t matter what happens against tOSU
Wow, was at Lambeau cheering on the the Badgers to victory and find out OU was hammered by Houston? What the hell happened?
Theories abound. In short, we sucked.
The usual…no defense, piss poor offensive play calling, lack of special teams play…
There was an earthquake. It was a sign
Penalties, missed fg returned for a TD. Busted coverage from Obo resulting in a TD. Fumble call that really wasn’t a fumble resulting in points. D played well on first and second down only to stink it up EVERY third down. We stopped running the ball when we got behind became one diminsional and they dialed up blitzes.
We let them score every possession the first half. Lots of FGs but they scored every trip the first half.
5 for their first 5
It could be argued that we lost by 5 feet. 5 feet more and Seiberts FG is good. 3 points. 5 more feet and they dont run it back for a TD. 7 points. Thats a 10 point swing.
How much did we lose by again?
This is true.
Don’t forget the UH fumble into our endzone while you’re counting woulda coulda shoulda things.
ok and I also won’t forget the 3 FGs that they made that barely dribbled through the uprights. All of them could have easily missed.
We could play this game all night. Too bad we couldn’t coach the team today and secured a victory.
And I’m sure both of us would have called more than 13 running plays for our rb tandem.
That sack on a missed block that pushed them back
Hate to say it, but this is looking like the 2014 season…another 4-5 loss season. Ohio State is going to drill us if we can’t find some defense rapidly.
When you think about it though, take away a field goal return and Houston scores 26 points! You’d think OU would get at least 28! Too me, this was like the Texass game where the defense didn’t play a great scheme but held the opponent to a lower enough score for a victory IF the offense would have gotten to their average. The O line looked like it did against the Vols and Texas and Clemson…The time of possession hurt, but I’m not sure it’s the defense.
The defense couldn’t stop them on third down. Not 3rd and short, not 3rd and long. They scored every possession in the first half. A lot of it was the defense.
Agreed. And that kept the offense from getting a number of additional chances and possibly working out some kinks.
Those are microcosms of the whole. Ultimately, what matters is POINTS. The defense gave up only 26…We give up 26 all year OU goes 11-1!
Well we could have scored more had we got the ball out of the hands of Houston. It wasn’t great all around.
Yep. It was just a little bit of every unit.
Defense could have tackled better and avoided penalties early, and they’d have given up fewer points, gotten the ball back to our offense more and in better field position, and maintained some momentum.
Offense could have finished that 2nd drive with a TD, and should have gotten going in the 2nd half when the D started getting stops. Baker’s fumble was unforced too.
Special teams could have tackled better, and obviously avoided the kick 6.
One play for each unit and we probably win. I’m not saying we played well, just that we weren’t far from winning that game. We had chances.
You could say that the other way too. Mark Andrews dropping two big passes could have resulted in Houston blowing us out. There were too many mental errors.
Suggesting players “mess up” routine plays is a weird way of looking at it the other way. If OU had a bunch of lucky plays, you could make that argument.
I didn’t even mention the multiple questionable calls (PI calls, lack of holding calls on Houston, and the fumble that probably wasn’t a fumble), nor did I mention Westbrook over-throwing a WIDE open receiver.
Like I said, we had our chances. We got out of rhythm early, and just never got it back. Momentum is a strange thing.
Heck. I thought the DL played pretty well. It’s the secondary that couldn’t make a play all day. The offense was a complete train wreck, from OL, WR, QB, coaches.
and offense…17 pts…shitttte…
Half time score KU 27 Rhode Island 6….Great now we have to worry about the Jayhawks lol
Always love Nick’s face when Bama fumbles.
exact same thought when that happened- is that wrong? don’t care
Me too.. his Mr sad sack look
Reading the responses, it sounds like the OU of old, especially giving up big third down plays. I thought that wasn’t going to be an issue this year.
We gave up nearly every third down play. It didn’t matter if it was 3& 4 or 3rd and 22
It’s a little misleading b/c we bailed them out of several 3rd and longs with penalties. I bet we had 3 or 4 penalties on 3rd and long that kept drives going for them (PI’s and personal fouls). Another play, I believe was 3rd and long, our entire dline had pressure on Ward, but let him escape, keep the play alive, and he completed a long pass to a scrambling WR.
They also had a couple of really nice back shoulder throws, which IMO is a play that is next to impossible to stop. Gotta give credit on those. I wish OU threw that pass more. Tough to defend, and a guy like Andrews would excel with those. Said that in previous years too.
Agree. Riley used that pass a lot at E Carolina, but not at OU. Not sure why.
Anyone have a list of the freshmen that played today. I know Cobb did ( but not enough ).
I have a feeling Cobb’s going to be playing a lot more from here on out. Or at least he dang well should be. Might as well see if a few games can get him up to speed.
Mark Jackson played a few downs.
I never never never thought Id be rooting for USC in a game.
I am from SoCal and despise USC…yet rooting for them as well. That’s how much I hate the SEC.
I just want Bama to lose so in my head I can say. Hey…we’re doing as well as Bama!
Well, if all these SEC teams keep losing it definitely helps OU, because they’ve got to justify those losses to help push an SEC team into the mix.
Just call me Sometimes Sunshine, Sometimes rain. But today is sunshine notwithstanding some of the BS haters. All I know, is that Ohio st lost to Va Tech in game 1 in 2014, and went 11-1 and got in and the rest is history. Clearly, Houston is viewed as a better opponent by the media than was Va Tech for OSU. All is not lost. I don’t want to hear this bs%$ about not having talent or the recruiting is down…we won last year, we can win again.
I’m with you. Team improved throughout the year last year so it’s not crazy to think they could this year as well. Also not likely Mixon/Perine combine for only 12 carries again.
I agree. I just am disappointed in how the entire team played today. I’ll get over it before next Saturday but today I’m ticked.
Our run defense was really good today. Ward only had 1 yard on 18 carries, and catalon had 22 carries for 88 yards. Majority of blown coverage was in the first half by Austin. Mayfield had over 300 yards passing with 2 TD and 0 ints. If we dont have so many penalties and give up that stupid field goal touchdown I’m pretty sure we win this game. We can still have a great season.
Our run defense was really good today. Ward only had 1 yard on 18 carries, and catalon had 22 carries for 88 yards. Majority of blown coverage was in the first half by Austin. Mayfield had over 300 yards passing with 2 TD and 0 ints. If we dont have so many penalties and give up that stupid field goal touchdown I’m pretty sure we win this game. We can still have a great season.
yea but….the cards fell right for them.. the moon and stars & all must be right for us….
Did Wren just play the one series? I don’t watch the oline specifically when I watch the games, so while I know they didn’t play that well, I don’t know who individually did not (at this point, unless I wanna go back and rewatch the game, which I don’t). So did any of them play well? Sure seemed to be a lot of pressure coming from Dalton and Samia’s side.
The delayed blitz really confused the right side. I think you’re right.
Watching this Bama/USC game. You’re not going to beat Bama running the football.
Guess I need to watch the recording of the game. But I do so with a sense of dread. I thought OU would win by 4 to 7 points, so I took Houston ATS. If everyone hasn’t noticed over the last five years, Vegas doesn’t know $#!% about handicapping the Sooners.
South Dakota State taking it to TCU.
Thats sad
Get us out of this weak joke of a conference.
OU didn’t exactly raise the big 12 banner very high today
That’s the point. We recruit soft players to play against these joke/gimmick teams. Then we get taken to school by anybody with physical players.
Texas high 7 on 7.
Dakota looks like he has T-Rex arms. They are so short . Short CB with short arms is a bad combo
He lost his job.
Didn’t they bring him back in though? After Cobb’s personal foul?
Yeah they did. I am not sure he should start though.
I thought Cobb gave us a better chance when he was out there.. Although there was one play they made him look silly. Still Austin got picked on all night.
I thought Cobb gave us a better chance when he was out there.. Although there was one play they made him look silly. Still Austin got picked on all night.
And Cobb was so turned around and horrible it was embarassing. Not knocking Cobb, but the fact that the sitch was so bad we are sticking a young boy out there that just got here.
Cobb has a really bright future. I hope that they give him a ton of snaps next week.
yeah. next week against ULM is a good time for that.
Yep that dude spent the whole game chasing people that blew by him.
As did Jordan Thomas.
Yep that dude spent the whole game chasing people that blew by him.
At least the Golden Hurricane are kicking some ass, up 38-7, 2nd half just underway
Oh and that play where our WR literally got tackled in the end zone and no call.
I was disappointed in the WRs mostly. Dede did some things. Baxter didn’t fumble. Andrews did one great thing and dropped two passes. If someone can’t get separation often enough, they need to go to the bench. Use anybody and everybody…Jones, try Quick as a two-player.
Receivers played about like I expected. We don’t have a go to man.
Well, Taco tech other than a Crabtree didn’t either. I thought that is what they air raid is about? We have to try Nick Basquine, Young AD Miller etc…
did Basquine see any action today, don’t recall
I don’t think so. Just sayin. I think some positions on this team are open after that performance.
I don’t think so. Just sayin. I think some positions on this team are open after that performance.
Many positions should be open, and I would make that clear tomorrow morning if not sooner.
Of the ones you mentioned, all but 1 proved last they can’t catch the ball.
They played worse than I expected. While there is no go to guy seems like they are confused on routes and so run nothing with any sharpness
Receivers played about like I expected. We don’t have a go to man.
Yup. With Sterling playing – OU wins that game.
2 picks by trill hill
This lame a$$ conference is going to be our demise.
Side note: The USC cheerleaders are worth the price of admission.
You ain’t lying
song girls
Zack Sanchez got cut. How bad we could’ve used him this year.
He made a big mistake and we suffered from it.
I don’t know what the result of the USC/Bama game will be, but the Sooners should watch this game. Both teams are putting on a tackling clinic. Hopefully SS17 will finally bring us DBs that can tackle.
Jalen Hurts, true freshman QB for bama, looks good. No reason Kendall couldn’t be either if he had to play.
Let’s hope he doesn’t have to break a sweat.
Agreed.
Agreed.
Texas didn’t offer.
QB U!
I think Kendall already goes through his progressions better than Baker but there is no way you put Baker on the sideline unless he just starts becoming a turnover machine.
Baker holds on to the ball way too long still though. He needs to get better at that
True. But that’s also how he makes the magic happen. I got roasted for saying we need Kendall’s scratch golfer approach over Baker’s gambler mentality this year to compliment our stable of backs. Buy that would mean we’d have to run a power offense. Something Bob is obviously good on.
Are we really talking trash on Baker freaking Mayfield!? 1 loss and you guys are turning on him already? The dudes oline and receivers didn’t help him out today and you’re already asking for a kid who is on the scout team. The last time that happened…Knight gave you 2013. Pump the brakes and trust Baker. This game wasn’t on him.
Not trashing him at all. What’s the deal with all the overbearing team parents in here. Take your sensationalism else where.
I’ll stay, thank ya very much. I just can’t believe how after last season and 1 game this year we have people basically asking for a QB change. Imagine if he didn’t walk on…OU would have been in the gutter for 4 years running and possibly longer. Enjoy what you have in your QB, they’re few and far between; as saxet.
I’m a huge Baker fan but I think we aren’t putting our players in the best position to succeed and it’s been going on too long. Criticism is OK. I run my own business and am always open to it, and I admit my faults often and work at them.
Standby… apologies. Was bouncing between phone and tablet and got your post mixed with another! Frustration complete. I just want OU fans to take a breath and relax. CFP may be attainable. Let’s not call for heads just yet.
I’m not firing anyone, but Bob has definitely list some shine.
Lol. And you determine this by watching all the footage of the games that Kendall has played for Oklahoma?
It’s easier if you just watch Baker. He doesn’t do any of that. He is kid boy Wonder with a football but if you know anything about the QB position hes a wildcard. He doesn’t do well the technical things. But he is a gamer.
I was saying this earlier. Just not sure he reads the field so well. Hell, maybe he cant see over his linemen, and thats why he always scrambles, and rarely uses middle of field…
Be careful the team mom’s are hall monitoring the venting.
I think Kendall already goes through his progressions better than Baker but there is no way you put Baker on the sideline unless he just starts becoming a turnover machine.
Can TFB create a policy that no one can mention national title hopes until OU is at least 10-1 and it’s thanksgiving weekend ?
I like title expectations. Bob doesn’t but hey you gotta feed the big red machine.
Sure it’s good to have a high bar. For me personally I take a lets see what happens each game approach. Keeps the disappointments more manageable. Every time I see ” we are going to kill them” on the prediction thread I just cringe.
I understand. I never feel like we are gonna run over anyone. Bob has fixed me of that. But it’s Oklahoma. Titles are expected.
Me too. Some people just havent learned from the past.
I know what you are saying one game at a time. But conversely, can I ask for TFB to create a policy that no one can mention OU is a 4 loss team?
We need to be thinking about playing for pride and spoiling the seasons of others. There is no worse loss than a loss to Houston. A win against Houston and a loss to tOSU would have served us better.
Houston will not play sh^t until the CFP unless you count Louisville. We TRAVELED TO THEIR HOUSE and gave them the golden ticket to the CFP.
LSU will be hurt less by losing to that horrid Wisconsin team than we will be hurt by losing to a very good Houston team.
I’d rather beat TOSU. That’s more respectful on a national stage. First game loss to a top 15 Houston team isn’t something to hang your head real low about. It happens.
Yeah, I mean a win against a ranked blue blood is always a good win, but It sucks that I now have to do things like cheer for Texas to beat Notre Dame in hopes to salvage anything possible to make the conference appear stronger so that our future wins will appear more quality.
Im rooting for Notre Dame.
F*ck Texas
Hell yeah!
Me too just for recruiting purposes if nothing else.
Not that they wont end up with them anyway but kids like Hines, Chaisson and Wilson are at stake between us and UT.
We need Strong to show just enough improvement to not get axed. I don’t want recruits having Tom Herman calling them from Austin in January.
I think Tom Herman stays in Houston if Houston gets invited to the Big12.
might be tough for them to get the 8 votes or whatever though.
Screw them, rooting for ND
True story.
Really wish OU could’ve gotten Adoree Jackson. Kid is so fast.
Because we looked extremely slow today
Well, USC is still the USC of the post Pete C era.
And the loss will not hurt USC one bit because they didn’t make a stupid schedule.
Bama never plays a true road game in the non-conference. That’s some bs. Not one true road game against a quality non-conference opponent in the Nick Saban era.
They get it done when it counts though, don’t they?
I’m pretty envious of that.
Sad but true.
Very cool T Knight had a great game today, he’s going to enjoy competing in the SEC this season while sampling some of the southern belles
And FREE stuff too!!
Free duck calls.
haha. Trevor’s at least got some wheels though and I hope he raises hell in the SEC as much as is possible without TAMU actually winning the SEC.
Kenny Hill is so bad. Who on here said he was good?
That was just the word from TCU in the offseason.
Auburn 3 Clemson 0
some of the sting would go away if somehow Auburn stuck it to Clemson.
We did it to ourselves.
Don’t get me wrong, Greg Ward Jr. is the real deal, and he was incredible today. Hats off to him and the entire Houston team that showed up ready to win. Houston is good, and we’re going to see that as the season moves along.
As for us:
Just a weird game. The personal foul calls were game changing. Specifically the two roughing the passer calls. Neither were even questionable, but at least Obo’s was more a momentum play (he still needs to learn to stay off the QB), but Evans has played too much football to be committing dumb penalties like that.
I never felt like we had any rhythm offensively. We seemed to want to sorta run the ball, but sorta pass it too. I can’t put my finger on one thing, it just wasn’t right. All in all, I think Baker actually played pretty well. unfortunately, I think there were too many times he waited (instead of taking what’s available), or left the pocket when he didn’t need to, but like I said I think he played pretty well.
Defensively, there’s going to be some growing pains. However, with the exception of the 3rd down craziness, the defense played much better in the second half.
The final straw with the 53 yard FG attempt. I can honestly understand why you’d let Seibert kick that ball, but man.
Houston made every play. We didn’t. Houston needed to be almost perfect, and we needed to be nowhere near perfect, to lose this game. And that’s pretty much what happened.
We lost to a terrible Texas team last year and made the playoffs. Today we lost to a top 10 team (they will be when the next polls come out), playing about a bad overall as we could play. I honestly think we’ll be okay, but the Ohio State game is virtually a ‘must win’ game if we are to get to the CFP.
As miserable as we are now, we all know where we’ll be next Saturday!
Nice post
Baker looked uneasy at times, probably because he couldn’t always locate an open receiver. I also think he injured his arm. At one point he was holding his arm after being hit, most passes after that sailed high.
The FG attempt in that venue, at that distance, that early in the game, complete with TO burn is one of the worst Stoops calls in a couple of years, IMO.
Worst since the rekick against the pukes.
yep. that one.
We always seem to make every qb look incredible..kinda easy to do when rushing 3 all 1st half…the better defense coincided with 4 man rush…
Everyone was blaming Mike for that so keep your head down.
Mike has done that now forever..he doesn’t get it…
I think Baker was being too conservative. He needs to take more shots. Overall very good post , i think this team will make the right adjustments and will get back on track.
Okay, you lost me when you said there were times Baker waited instead of taking what was available. There wasn’t anything available. They covered our receivers who don’t know how to get separation and quit working when our Qb starts to scramble.
A 6 foot 5 recieved is open even when he is covered. Baker needs to realize that.
Not if they can’t catch the ball, unless you are referring to Andrews, and in his case it’s worth a shot.
Well said, S Keith. You covered it nicely. Both Baker and Stoops commented on the issue of waiting for something better rather than taking what was available. Houston made a lot of plays, several were on the order of ridiculous.
College football seasons are wacky. Going crazy about what it’s going to take to make the CFP is premature at this point.
We’ll know a lot more about this team in a couple of weeks.
Great post. Nailed it. Baker missed Sterling Sheppard. I don’t know that we’ll ever have another guy who could get open like that. So Baker needs to adjust.
Flipping around these games. Austin at 5′ 10 160 pounds can’t hang with any of these big receivers.
Crazy thing is he is a better tackler than either Thomas or what Sanchez was. Just has those physical limitations in coverage.
In the Big 12 maybe, I’m trying to compare our players to the other top teams in the country.
yeah, i know. And when I said he was a better tackler, I wasn’t really giving the other 2 guys complements.
Next week we’ll get our mojo back. Then the week after tOSU comes to our new and improved house and we’ll have 85 players and 85,000 fans on them with a big big target on their back. I think we’re 2-1 three weeks from now.
I hope your right. Everyone keeps talking about CFP scenarios, I would just like to see improvement.
Bring that on! I needed a good shot of positive.
I want some of what you’re smoking.
I’m smoking belief.
How much per gram? Sounds like some good stuff
$50 per gram but lets make it clear that Im selling it to you for medical purposes only.
Deal.
ou doesnt have the athletes….houston out athleted us today….houstom!!!!
OU has better athletes overall than Houston. Thats not even in question.
Coaches? thats another story.
i didnt see any ofnour recievers running free like dunbar was
Dunbar is good. I didnt say that Houston doesnt have some great athletes but as a team?? umm No.
well if we cant match up to Dunbar…tOSU will slice the secondary up….especially if we play the wait and see defense
the wait and see defense is on the coaches.
i agree with that
Baker wasn’t given the time Ward was for receivers to uncover. We sacrificed our pass rush to make sure Ward didn’t bust a big run. The result was all day for receivers to uncover and all day to throw. I will admit that Dunbar was a physical mismatch for Austin and they worked the back shoulder throw to perfection.
Dunbar is a push off/arm bar machine.
Houston outplayed us and out coached us, but I don’t agree that they have superior athletes.
shes just trolling as much as she can..
Dumb comment. Houston has never been near OU in recruiting or talent. Sure Oliver is a 5 star that we don’t have. But he wasn’t the difference.
Dunbar was a big difference…apparently their dbs were pretty good. idiot
They do not have better athletes and for you to make that comment, you need to be called out for it.
oh so you know all of their 40 times? bench presses?? impressive
I suppose you think Boise St had “better athletes than OU in 06” LOL. EXECUTION is the key in most football games. OU used to fumble 10 times in a game but still hang half a hundred…that’s having better athletes. Houston has maybe two guys would start for OU.
you dont get it….recievers were burning our dbs…o line couldnt block well….this was houston….what happens when we play ohio state…texas?
R-E-L-A-X one game at a time. 11-1 is a playoff team. There are concerns at WR…though.
11-1 would be a playoff team in any other conference but not after a loss to a Houston
We need to play Mykel Jones.
what happens is that when we actually score on offense, then MIKE can dial up crazy stuff on D. Gotta play safe and vanila when the offense can’t score and is trailing.
can’t*
Whoa…dream weaver…..they just scored 70 on a decent team yea I’ll take that bet.
OU will get blown out..coaching sucks period
Bowling Green is decent? nah
lol@ Dream weaver. Come back and tell me this in two weeks.
Not sure id say decent. OU will be ready for Ohio St.
So they forgot how to coach in less than a year?
these people only want to hear fluffy good things …..not actual reality
So you base one game which was basically decided by some bad calls and some stupid PIs the ultimate reality? seriously?
this season is already a dissapointment….an 11-2 SEC team..undefeated Houston…..ACC champ and Pac 12 or Big 10 champ gets in the playoff this year…not OU even if we go 11-1
That’s just dumb. What’s your source for such knowledge?
you think an 11-1 big 12 team gets in? without a championship game? nope..sorry
Did we have a title game last year? LOL. Short-term memory loss?
Possibly if not probably replaced by Houston if they go undefeated plus 3 power 5 conference champions. Most likely Alabama, Clemson/FSU and Michigan/tOSU at least on paper.
Never mind the youngins when it comes to OU knowledge.
OU knowledge? it doesnt mayter about OU knowledge ….you know its a committee that selects the playoff right? a committe that bases those decisions on perception. right now perception is OU highly overrated
I’ll not argue that our chances for the playoffs weren’t crippled if not destroyed today but that has nothing to do with how good this team can be.
i think they can 11-1 …..but this loss made the season a massive dissapointment for the expectations.
Sure it did but the initial point has nothing to do with expectations. Its about how athletic OU is or isnt.
I still think Houston had better athletes in the secondary….or are our receivers that bad? and same with our dbs?
Ive been saying all day that Im disappointed in our WRs. Someone not named Westbrook or Andrews need to really step up. On that one point we agree.
As for the DBs the jury is out. All I know is that Ward had all day to throw and any WR will get free given that much time.
true….but they need some help at corner and receiever…fast
Was interesting how our secondary with 3 returning starters allowed 9-11 third down completions of 8+ yards while their secondary that replaced all four of their starters held OU to 7 of 14 on third down but only 3-9 in the first, second and fourth quarter.
We’ll see. They got in last year.
point is….they no longer control their destiny…..they have to hope for a 2 or 3 loss sec champ and same for ACC champ
No.
And what makes you think that Houston wouldnt beat tOSU too?
Took Clemson 1.5 quarters to score, and they returned a TON on offense.
Exactly. First games against quality opponents is always a tough deal.
I wish their was a preseason in College football.
so we could get all of our season ending injuries out of the way before the real action? where’s the fun in that?
I want that DB that knocked Perines shoulder out to transfer to OU. Wicked hit and a tone setter.
lane kiffin’s revenge……..
Ohio St…FML… Might have to just watch Sammy B and Adrian play together this season instead…
A little too early to write off the season, but I get the frustration.
It is early but there’s 0 room for error now. We could go undefeated and see Houston get in over us.
and I would be ok with that. Yall act like we have to get a Natty every year. That is not only unrealistic, but also unreasonable. Football Coaches are humans (super highly paid humans, but still humans), the people playing the game are KIDS. Winning every game is HARD. If this year’s team is any good, they WILL show up, and hopefully soon. At least our boys are scheduling real teams and not Creampie Community College and Our Sisters of Perpetual Fumbles University. I dont like it when the boys lose, but hell, at least they lost to a real football team.
Saban.
It has been 16 years ya know.
Vikings going to be fun this season.
TCU 31 SDSU 31. My fellow OU friends RELAX.
Relax my ass. That just tells us what a joke situation were in with this kiddie conferences.
Give it up. The conference has nothing to do with today’s games.
Bull crap.
Just means the best teams in the Big 12 can’t handle business. I see no need to relax.
yea….this is not good…..our conference looks awful
TCU has given up 31 points and is tied to South Dakota State
yet if they win, all will be forgiven and mostly forgotten. that’s why you don’t schedule a Houston on the road.
Something to be said about this. Why not open with ULM, then Houston, then a bye and get OSU, TCU and Texas?
Yeah, thats really what I meant. Is play ULM first and then if you want to play Houston at Houston I’m more OK with it. You have time to make adjustments from the ULM film instead of going in completely blind at some positions.
Houston prob wasn’t expected to be this good when we scheduled them. And it’s a sponsored game, prob had to have it this week. I also think they wanted to play on the road week 1 to give them an extra week to complete the stadium stuff.
Yeah there is that.
Good point. No way we thought they were going to be this good
if we had, or prepared like they were… we would be having a celebration thread
and I guess kudos to Stoops for not pulling an SEC type move and cancelling the game.
USC looks bad right now.
What did OU look like
Better than USC.
Uh. No. Not even close.
OU lost by 10 , USC is losing by 28.
Some people can’t be reasoned with. Not worth your time.
To ala-effing-bama. Their defense kept bama in check most of the first half. Did you see our defense today?
So you are saying bama is better than Houston? 🙂
Do you think that defense could’ve held bama to 10’points in the first half and 3 for most of it? Cause I sure damn don’t.
Wanna go by halves and pick ur stats? How’s that D in second half?
Do you know how many yards our D gave up in the second half today? Serious question. Answer that and consider we were only down 2 at halftime and ask yourself which unit was worse.
Fact is we couldn’t get it done… Again.
Don’t disagree, but I’m asking you a specific question. You keep calling out the defense, I’m just saying maybe everyone’s favorite offensive coaches aren’t getting it done. It’s blatantly obvious which unit did not get it done when it counted.
I’m not specifically calling out the defense. They had one awful half and one good half. Same for the offense. That said, what I’m getting at is do you think we would’ve finished within 10 points of Alabama? Cause I damn sure don’t. Maybe Oklahoma and USC are on par with one another. Does that make you feel better? Cause it damn sure doesn’t make me feel better.
Nothing will make you feel better. It’s obvious you are miserable and I’m sorry for adding to that.
I don’t like the loss, the game, the start to the promising season, but you take it to another level.
And you continue to Suck that sunshine up, cowboy.
Wow, delusional much? What did I say that spun this game positively? Quit making up sh/t. I’m not pumping a damn thing but reality.
My life goes on even when we lose. I feel sorry for you bro.
I’m fine, “bro”. Enjoy your weekend. I know I will.
I can’t believe all the anticipation for months I’ve had for this season, and then today happened. It feels like so much wasted time, for nothing. I think I do better when I just ignore the off season and wait and see.
If TCU loses, Big 12 is left out of the playoffs this year.
No. Because the Pac 12 doesn’t have a high profile team this year.
Pac 12 got left out last year, big 12 lost respect after the bowl games and Stanford just be one of our teams. If TCU loses to this no name team. They get the nod or Houston. Unless OU just dominates tOSU. (lmao)
Anyone listen to post game show? How far in before Bob mentioned the Bama game?
my money is 186 seconds
That was a serious question. You must have been watching with a stop watch on him.
I haven’t been watching, but just saw the score. Has Bama looked insanely good? Is the score somehow misleading please. We have got to keep recruiting in the top 5 classes every year if we want to beat them.
usual bama d with inept usc o…………as game went on bama may have found the qb …..haven’t watched the whole thing b/c it’s boring
I wanna see Erik Wren start against UL Monroe. Also would like to see OU slide Samia at RG & have Bobby Evans at RT.
Would be interesting. But you would think the coaches put out the best OL that practiced the best together
Josiah St. John. ’nuff said.
I mean im not sold on Alvarez right now.
While we’re making our demands …
I want to see every WR that played today rotated out. Put in an entire fresh crop and see if someone gives a crap enough to want and deserve to be out there. Andrews and maybe Westbrook excepted.
I want to see Cobb starting at corner, and give him the next game to get his feet under him. He’s apparently our only hope of having decent corner play.
I want to see Adams get some series. It looks like our RBs are going to take a bruising until at least our O-line settles in, which if last year is any judge may not be until after whorn.
Everyone will look like a super star next week and we will feel better but still won’t know anything.
But I think we do know what Austin’s going to look like after next week. And it ain’t pretty. Let’s just let Cobb take his lumps and get him a quick education. And Adams isn’t because the RBs looked questionable. I’m worried about their health. We’ll need him.
Granted, you’re right about the WR. But I’m so freaking pissed off at them they need to sit anyway. 🙂
I agree that Cobb would get some good work next week and I hope that happens. He has more upside than Dakota IMO.
We already know we can’t play against teams that can actually catch the ball.
The entire Big12 can catch the ball. Every year. This is sh$t
Hard to say that about our running backs when they only got 13 carries and Oliver blowing up our whole defense on running plays.
Say what? That they’re going to take a lot of punishment? Our O-line was very poor (to be generous). I think they’ll be taking a hell of a beating. Samaje already was hurt to the extent that it severely limited him in this game. And who knows based on what Bob says what the extent of his injury really is.
Losing Rodney Anderson is looking big about now. Wish we were loaded to where it would be just “next man up” when we have an injury.
That’s why I want to get Adams some game time. He’s not going to RS with Anderson hurt.
Did Mykel Jones play?
No
I heard no receiver showed up
Since the glaring issue for most TFB posters here has been the lame WRs…Why not rotate Nick B and Jones in?
WTF
https://vine.co/v/5i0OTqPWZ19
sad but funny.
They pumped a lot of sunshine up his @$$ a few days ago. Didn’t really see him do anything jaw dropping.
Starting to think he had a concussion. Should explain everything lol.
That’s our starting cornerback.. Geez. But still funny.
taking the lead blocker, turning the play back inside
Will Johnson is the guy that blew it there.
Help is on the way with Sooner17 if they don’t start dropping out. Both Rambo and Lamb could start the minute they walk on campus. I have seen both of them play and they can run routes AND catch the ball.
Better days are coming.
Definitely, and more OL and LB help.
Kinda makes us sound like Lil Bro Rams, huh. Lol
Fans not Rams.
We seem to have a knack of getting highly rated recievers that never pan out.
Good grief USC getting obliterated
It’s bad.
So, Bama vs Houston for CFP title?
Pencil it in?
Louisville will beat Houston. Bama some how some way will lose to ole piss.
Yeah, today didn’t say a lot about Houston. Only a lot about OU. Houston’s a good team, but no way they’re a playoff team.
Neither is OU.
Yeah, that’s the “lot” that we found out about OU. Beating OU didn’t prove crap for whether UH is great, but I’ve already seen the media pouncing on this win as proof they’re a contender.
I think UH is quite good. Probably top 12. But not top 4.
I agree 100%. I’m not really worried about Houston though. I’m worried about Oklahoma. And I’m worried.
Some of us been saying that for months.
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If there is one thing that just might convince me to stop watching college football, it’s the miserable ordeal of having to watch the tide win another NC
Somewhere in hell Bear Bryant is enjoying this.
So for everyone who was wondering if USC is back, I think it’s safe to say we’ve got our answer.
They are still a ways off. We better win another title before they do.
Yes, we have issues and they really need to be addressed. Yes it sucks that we lost bit if anything, this first week, anything can happen. The coaches really need to look at who they want to play and prepare them for the long haul and be aggressive and take no prisoners. There is always a chance of getting back up to the top. We’ll see.
Shouldn’t they have done that prior to today’s game?
Yep, they were probably thinking they could get it worked out during the game but as we all know, it doesn’t work that way with us. Head scratched for sure.
Random thought: We probably should have “Mississippi’d” Ed Oliver.
I laughed too hard at this.
Kieth Ford looked good for the aggies today. The stable of RBs we could have had this year… Only to have Baker carry the ball more than Perine/Mixon combined.
Does anyone know a good grief counselor? I keep thinking to myself that this didn’t really happen.
You have four more stages to go there, pardner.
This is ridiculous. Mercy already
Yikes! Clemson’s D held Auburn to 38 yards in the first half. We need to hire their DC.
You sir are on a roll.
its the beer.
I think most of us are there. Holiday. Celebrate.
cheers
Lol. Good one there. Lol
More to the point. He held our offense to 17 points last season.
sigh..
I’ll take the DC if he will bring the past 4 years recruits with him
I think Jessie Palmer is another secret OU hater. I’ve never heard him say one positive thing about us.
Lol, anyone that mentions an OU loss is a hater?
Im obviously talking about his history of negativity towards OU and not one comment.
That’s good because I hate us right now. 🙂
Sooner Ray is another OU hater! : )
I knew it! 😉
I guess I don’t keep track of what these idiots say.
Its not as if I keep track either but when you hear it enough it just kinda sinks in.
I should’ve known today would be rough, no one soonered any of my boomers. Also we’re at my in laws and since me and my wife have been dating we are 0 for on games at the in laws. Shes fully aware of this now and is accepting all blame.
Colfax what is up with that, although my in laws weren’t here its the same thing and then they piss me off when they say well they played hard lol. Trust me I have the best in laws ever but they don’t get to watch games with me anymore. My wife thinks I’m stupid.
Gotta do what’s best for the team.
You always have questions going into the first game. Some usually get answered some have to wait until later. It appears we got answers to all of them today. Unfortunately the answer was ‘no’.
Break into that scotch yet?
Nah, just moved on to other things. Wouldn’t want to waste good scotch on a game like that.
Got a 30 year one that might have been opened if I were home. Bourbon is good enough for now.
The main question I had answered: Who’s going to step up and replace Shepard’s production? No one.
Looked exactly like last year without Shep
This x 1000, and when is BB going to get “his guys” to dominate?
BB’s guys aren’t any good it turns out.
I love the guy, I do, but it blows my mind how he gets a free pass for so long without producing. It’s been long enough.
He does seem to be teflon, and I don’t understand it.
Not producing? What? last year OU averaged 45 points a game! Overreact much?
Severely distorted average against inferior comp. What is the one common stat for every loss last 2 years? <100 yards rushing. Overreaction if you wish to call it that but facts are facts, do tell what unit is weak link in ur opinion?
First, the “inferior competition” is out of OU’s hands now isn’t it? I can make the same argument that B1G teams have high ranked defenses because they play passing challenged teams. You want to charge BB with not doing his job against Texas, Clemson and now Houston. What the f about all the other games? Even the King got beat by Miami and USC at times…even Bama doesn’t win every game and we know by seasons end only three-four teams will have a single loss. Let’s hope that we’ll be one of them.
Easy now, we on same team. I do NOT want to get rid of BB. I don’t want to get rid of anyone as we are moving the right direction. Just saying we just be dishing out criticism evenly.
I shouldn’t get on these after losses. I don’t really enjoy fighting with you guys.
And no I never overreact, a trend is a trend and if you think we have a championship caliber o line right now ur delusional. Can it be fixed? Sure, but this song and dance is the same as last year unfortunately
https://youtu.be/cMTAUr3Nm6I
I made a post about the season and “hope” referencing Shawshank Redemption a couple weeks ago.
With the anticipation of the season and the hype, and the hope, today was like watching Andy escape only to get caught the next morning. So much for hope.
I could be wrong but I think you mentioned a couple weeks ago that there was an issue with our WRs getting separation. I think that and our Oline were the primary issues today. I’m a lurker on this board who only comes out in extreme good and bad times (which means I’m a UT troll /s) but I appreciate the objective analysis as there are a lot of good-intentioned homers on this board who wouldn’t know an average OU team of it punched them in the face.b
Yeah I predicted a three loss season or so about a week ago on here and got shredded for it. It happens. I’m a realistic homer I guess.
I’m sure glad we got rid of Venables. What a slacker
Gotta take care of family(eye roll)
He sure has a knack for getting more out of more, doesn’t he?
If there’s a better DC in the country I’d sure like to know who it is
That one at Bama ain’t too shabby.
Not to mention he has access to a lot more talent.
Not sure about the more talent comment. I did research and only since 2012 has Clemson out recruited us.
If Venables had put a product on the field at OU like he has at Clemson, we’d likely have at least one more NC and Bob never would have been tempted to bring Mike back.
I don’t know if it’s the talent difference, Bob meddling, or both; but the defense at Clemson doesn’t look a darn thing like the confused, over-complicated thing Venables did at OU.
In that league it doesn’t have to be because he doesn’t deal with the same kind of offenses. The D was never as bad as fans made it out to be. It had more to do with the task he was up against. Kirby Smart’s defenses at Bama had the same problem whenever they played an O with a pulse (Auburn, tOSU, OU). No one shuts these offenses down, but people acted like since Venables teams gave up points it was just unacceptable.
I want to challenge all my fellow TFB’ers to watch a replay, if you can stomach it, and watch how easy our receivers get knocked off their routes, and how they just give up when that happens. Meanwhile Baker is scrambling all over the backfield, waiting on someone to find a hole, sit down, and wait for him to deliver the ball. It will amaze you.
we got the kiss of death yesterday or whenever they made their picks, but if I had a nutsack would have bet my house on Houston when Mark Rogers locked us to cover, I would say he’s 95% wrong when he Locks us. He’s worse than Corso. I told my son before the game we were going lose just because everyone was so confident. I now he didn’t play the game it’s just ironic.
Pretty sure Corso also said we make it back to the playoff. It’s kinda like getting a sneak peek into the future there. We were doomed from the start.
Kiffin turning the knife in his old team by running it up
How in the world can the SEC play with these garbage Qb’s all the time? Painful.
I’ll say this….doesn’t make me feel bad seeing USC on the bad side of a butt whoopin.
If you think as fans we are frustrated, think how Baker must feel.
He should feel like he had a shi* game. Get the ball out of your hands. You’re the 15th best athlete on offense, you shouldn’t lead the team in carries.
I’m referring to being a Qb of an offense that his receivers don’t help him by trying to work open so he has someone to throw the ball to. I realize I’m repeating myself but they don’t run crisp routes and when he has to scramble when everyone is covered, they quit.
Guys aren’t always going to be wide open. You can’t eat the ball every time because no one is wide open. Houston threw people open all day.
If you will watch the replay, they weren’t open nor working to get open.
When they get knocked off their route it’s like they quit.
They are not the least bit physical.
Compare what UHs WR did while Ward was running for his life to what the OU receivers did. Thats the difference between sack and 3 rd down conversion. Wards long conversions werent good throws, they were WR running back to the ball and sacrificing their bodies for the catch
MAVerick, he was 9-9 at the half. He should have pitched the ball and no one likes a fumble. But he played well enough to win if the OL and WRs did their part.
Well at least Bradford finally gets to play for a half way decent team.
But the 5th OC in 4 years…
Can’t be that hard to turn and hand it to Peterson. 🙂
So he’s got lots of experience picking up new offenses. I’ve heard they will shorten the playbook for him starting off.
Page 1 – Hand ball to Peterson
Page 2 – See Page 1.
I can’t wait. First time I’ve been excited about the NFL in years.
I can get into the NFL. It’s like watching Renaissance battles, my mercenaries fighting your mercenaries.
I agree, I just root for the OU players.
mercenaries lol….talk about inflation.
Really, for what they are paying Peterson. The could have hired 7500 soldiers in the 1500s.
LOL!!!
Not to mention 1000 “bar maids”
No- Camp girls! They followed along making their money a little at a time. Kind of like food trucks. Except different product.
hahahahahaha!!! Sorry Bob, you’ve had too much good stuff tonight, I think this is the 3rd thing I’ve replied to. You just phrased perfectly how I’ve always felt about the NFL, but could never put into words. Genius! Mercenaries! I’m using this from now on. But of course I will give you credit.
Best thing for him. The state of that OL in Philly this year is career threatening. Chip really burned that team down.
Josh Jacobs has 5 carries for Bama, can’t believe we let that one get away.
Loved Jacobs hudl but no more than Adams.
I’m out guys. Have a good weekend and be ready to go next Saturday. I won’t pay $40 to watch ULM but will follow on TuneIn radio.
Oklahoma has some studs in the high school ranks this year, if these verbal commits don’t pan out we have some pretty good okie talent to choose from. I want guys who are stoked to play for OU not talented teenagers who all think they’re the next Michael Irvin, Terrell Owens, or whatever NFL “me” chump that gets too much camera time. We aren’t winning anything with players who think 3 years and draft is promised.
Meanwhile Auburn has had every opportunity to be tied with or beating Clemson with rotating 3 different QB’s and they’ve screwed themselves every time
Just pick one a stick with him. Believe it or not they should be winning this game!
IKD, clemson seems to be one of those teams that just plays to the level of competition. If Clemson needed 3 TDs Watson would just pull 3TDs out of his ass in the end.
I know, I remember several games last year where Clemson was flirting with an upset. However when they play OU, they switch gears.
Don’t get me wrong though, I’d love to see Clemson go down and go get myself a helping of schadenfreude while lurking in the shadows over at shakinthesouthland.com
Yep. That’s it. Here it comes.
So, Clemson player stands over the Auburn player on the ground which they made a taunting penalty for years ago. Auburn player gets up and pushes him and draws a flag.
Reminds me of the “excessive clapping” flag from the playoff. F Clemson.
Auburn better get the ball in the damn end zone this time!!!!!
What are they doing?
Tough loss. Thought Bob struck the appropriate tone after the game. Season isn’t over.
I thought the weakest link appeared to be receivers unable to get open. Bob and Baker both indicated that it was sometimes otherwise, saying that in some cases guys were open, but Baker was looking for more downfield, when he should have just taken what was available. Couldn’t tell from the tv broadcast, but if that was the case, then this game will definitely be a “teachable moment.”
Seemed to me like the ineffective offense kept the defense on the field way too long. I was surprised at how well the defense held up later in the game, due to that.
Houston has really good team and will have a great season.
Hate to lose the undefeated season so quickly. Big drag. I look for the team to bounce back in a big way.
I actually think Mike called a pretty good game. We contained Ward and forced him to beat us with his arm. Unfortunately, he completed way too many passes on third down to extend drives.
Defense only gave up 26 points and at least 7 were due to a shortened field on a so-called fumble. So, I agree. If the current crop of receivers can’t get open down field go to Basquine and Jones! No job is safe after that performance.
The Red Zone D did really good through 3 quarters. Minus the Obo give away
I do too. I wasn’t as dismayed as I expected to be when I finally watched the game on tape. The bogus PI and the personal fouls were killers, and the FG TD return was just stupid. Should have pounded the ball more with Perine. The back shoulder throws by Ward were tough to stop. OU frittered away a lot of chances in this game, but I agree they will bounce back – if the WRs step up.
Maybe we should quietly point out to the B-12 that if their refs call anymore penalties on us in nonconference games we may not be able to sign the Grant of Rights. See if a few of those PI’s and PF don’t go away in the future.
Seemed to me like the ineffective offense kept the defense on the field way too long.
Not with you there. They allowed close to, if not actually, double-digit 3rd down and long conversions, like often more than 10 yards long. They didn’t force a single punt in the entire first half.
If the D wants to get off the field, they need to man up.
You could be right, and I was certainly giving them partial credit for forcing field goals. I just had the sense that the offense never kept the ball for more than 2 minutes and had little to show for it. Haven’t reviewed it. I’ll take a closer look…eventually. Ugh…
After today I’m wondering if Coach B doesn’t need to rethink his Swiss Army Knife method of recruiting OL. Instead of guys that can play five different positions get some guys that play one position really well.
Can’t argue with that thinking.
I’m open to whatever right now.
I thought the OLine dos a good job, we went away from the run and our receivers couldn’t get open. Baker missed some guys too but I thought the line looked okay
For certain Houston never stopped OU’s running the ball. Lincoln Riley did. Mixon averaged 6.7 y/c and Perine 5.2 y/c. Unfortunately Riley only gave each six rushing opportunities. It was especially notable when we had a second and 5 at the Houston 10 yard line on the FG possession and we throw the ball instead of run it.
Riley’s actions said I am a true “air raid” advocate despite what my strengths are. Run the ball on second down and we are probably no worse than 3rd and three with the option to either run or pass on third down creating defensive doubt for the cougar defense.
Throwing the ball on second down forced us to throw the ball on third down with the end zone acting as the deep ball defender. Dumb in my opinion.
don’t think they can recruit enough depth and quantity to have that luxury…….ol recruiting is still like pulling teeth
I wonder sometimes if that is the issue. I’m big on playing to your strengths. A jack-of-all-trades is a master of none.
Four of Houston’s drives were sustained by 3rd down penalties. Gotta clean that up. OU was the more physical team, and had some opportunities. If these two teams were to somehow meet again this year, I’d take OU -4.
Do you realize that OU only had five penalties? Yet, four of them gave UH a first down?
Also, OU’s O lineman need to learn to look for backside blocks when Mayfield takes off. That will come with a little more experience.
Auburn almost did it. Damn I hate Clemson
Prediction…….Two top 5 teams with Heisman hopefuls lost as double digit favorites on the road. Both OU and LSU will now run the table the rest of the season and meet up in the 4 team playoff.
Sweet!
dreamer
Don’t see that happneing, but I can forsee the possibility of OU playing Houston again in a bowl game. And flipping the score.
It seems to me like every play that we rush 3 the last 2- 3 years that I remember, results in a completion for the opposite team. And Mike keeps calling it…
On the failed fg attempt that got returned: did it look to anyone else that Seibert started his approach to the ball to soon and literally had to stop his forward motion and kick without stepping through it? Looked a lot like a person throwing a ball without stepping i to it.
You weren’t imagining things. That happened. Took 5-10 yards off the kick. Just a miscommunication at the wrong time.
he mis-stepped, and then stepped back. He has a huge leg, and his kick looked awkward
byu knocks off zona at zona……..fun game
byu and houston could certainly play ball in the big 12-2 and be very respectable at least……not saying they should be added
If anyone should be added it ought to be those two. Houston was a part of “Major College football once upon a time and BYU has competed for Nattys before.
we really killed ourselves. the Personal foul calls, and fantom PI calls killed so much of the game. And really, the kick-6, killed us. We would have taken the lead, and instead went down by 9. 10 point swing in one play. Killed us. Just so frustrating to watch the 1st drive & half and then see us sputter the way we did is so frustrating.
I’ve been on this website since the day it began. I have never posted because I never felt a need to. It’s the best OU site I’ve ever come across. I’d read/refresh it daily hell even hourly. Ive read every single one of y’alls posts. Even days when y’all say I’m first BOOMER! I just sit in the shadows and say no you weren’t first I was. I just didn’t tell the Sooner Nation that I was the real first. However, with all this said and done here is my two cents for all its worth. Before I start I should say after the game I went dove hunting to vent with my 12 gauge. I havent read through everyone’s posts so sorry if I’m beating a dead horse or bringing up something already discussed. I also never got to hear any post game from players or coaches.
#1 the televising of the game was terrible. Never saw any routes any receivers ran.
#2 how many 3rd downs did we give up. That first half was brutal. It took away our time of possession and never allowed the offense to get in any rythm. It’s not like Houston was running an offense we had never seen before. I understand getting beat on back shoulder under thrown fades. What I can’t understand is getting beat over top or playing man and the linebacker not picking up his man out of the backfield. That’s junior high stuff. You learn from day one to never get beat over top as a db and to always follow the RB when your a linebacker playing man.
#3 what the hell is bob doing kicking a 53 yard fg when we are down by two with half the 3rd quarter left. For one you should know how far your kicker can kick a damn ball. And to blow your 2nd timeout to still go kick it blows my mind. Dumbest call in stoops history in my opinion. It’s even dumber than the repunt against osu. He probably ripped everyone’s ass in the locker room for good reason at halftime but then follows it up with a total collapse in judgement 10 mins later to totally eff up the team mentally.
#4 this will probably rub a lot of people the wrong way but this is what this threads for right so here it goes. I thought Baker played good; however, he flushed himself out of the pocket way too much. Again I couldn’t see the routes on tv but you could tell he didn’t trust his O line for nothing. He bailed out of the pocket every snap it seemed. Some may say well the receivers aren’t getting open but what if baker just stood in the pocket and waited for the route to develop. We have enough talent to beat any secondary. But you can’t run crossing routes or digs or anything across the middle when your qb bails on the play because he doesn’t trust his O line. I thought the o line had a good pocket most of the game.
#5 I have so many questions for Lincoln Riley my fingers will start hurting typing them. Can you get mark Andrews involved? Can you run the football? Will you tell your qb to throw a jump ball when we are 1 on 1? I mean it’s either going to be caught, dropped, or interference. I highly doubt an interception even happens. If It does tip your hat off to the db and say good play. I’ll leave it at this for now in regards to Lincoln.
#6 I thought the D made a huge adjustment in the second half. Hell even right before half I saw good push upfront by the d line and was happy to see it. Haven’t seen the d line get that much push in a long time. We just never could stop them on 3rd down. Thought Dakota Austin and Jordan Thomas played awful. Even when they made incompletions they were out of position. For Thomas to be #1 corner in big 12 he didn’t show it at all. I wasn’t shocked to see Cobb come in for Austin. I remember so many people on this site bashed Cobb for going to Baylor and then bashed him even more when he reconsidered for OU saying if he wants to keep looking then we don’t want him. Guy had to make personal and life changing decisions and I’m thankful that he chose OU. He has only been on the team for a couple of months and just saw the field in a crucial moment for OU. It’s clearly obvious that the coaches trust him a lot and we have a future stud at corner.
#7 did the O line play good. Hell I don’t know. That’s one position I just really never know about because I’m watching everything else during the play and never spend much time watching the line. On replays I can see who made a good kick out block or whatever or missed their man but rarely did the broadcast gives us any replays on our offense. Probably because we weren’t on the field very long.
#8 I’m still an OU graduate and a fan till the day I die. That’s all I can think of now. Gotta go to bed so I can shoot some birds in the morning.
heck of a first effort, welcome out of the shadows 🙂
Welcome, great first post. Good luck out there today. Here is a bit of encouraging news…..Deer season is right around the corner!
Agree with many of your points, especially about BM trusting his pocket and not running out so early. But the fact is: he’s not going to change. And apparently, LR is unable or unwilling to utilize outlet passes to the flats to counter the blitz. So we better make sure the OL concentrates on backside blocking to keep Baker alive on his scrambles.
Yea…the TV coverage sucketh. I could never tell if the receivers downfield were covered or not.
It’s always hard to watch WR routes on TV, which is why it’s nice to see the games live, from about the 20th row or up. You see pass plays develop. I don’t know either if the WRs were getting open, but clearly BM didn’t feel they were, or doesn’t trust them to go get the ball when he’s being blitzed. But he needs to give them a chance, because every team is going to blitz us like crazy.
My summation of the two extreme poster views:
1. The sky has fallen: “We can’t coach,” Fire MS, Fire BS, Dakota A has girl arms, We recruit soft players, The TFB sold us a bill of goods during Spring, Baker sucks, We’ll never get to the playoffs even if we go 11-1, Big 12 sucks, Riley choked…
2. The Sunshine pumpers: A loss like this serves as motivation for winning our remaining games, we got this, every champ has to go through adversity…
3. Reality Posters: This sucks. We still have the best skill in the conference. Beat OSU and win the rest we get in the playoff…Our coaches haven’t forgot to coach in 6 months…
You can put me in category one for most things. Not calling for anyone to be fired. Austin wasnt even a 3 star when it comes to ESPN. After last year, Me and everyone else are looking forward to OU becoming a powerhouse, not just in the B12 but nationally. Success means better recruits and better players. Recruits pay attention to success. Look at SS17 vs the 16 class. These games matter, and the committee looks at each lose especially OOC games with ranked teams. All of my attention is towards the end of the year. If Houston runs the table and we still win the B12 we are left out of the playoffs. It’s a head to head match up.
To me it’s really simple: Bob Stoops is old, fat and irrelevant. He and his brother (dumb and dumber) haul in almost $7 million per. He can’t sniff the elite coaches jock in college football: Saban, Herman, Sweeney.
Do us all a favor and retire, Bob. Put up a wall to Stoops Manor, eat your ice cream straight out of the tub and watch Alaska reality TV and try to remember a life before you grew so fat and comfortable. Oklahoma football held hostage by the 2000 national title and the ghost of something new.
Idiot. So freaking irrelevant that they made the playoffs less than 8 months ago. Get over yourself.
OU football isn’t irrelevant. Bob Stoops is. Stoops will never win another national title. If that works for you then good enough. Enjoy the next ten years and Bob Pa. Bob and Mike. Uber alles. “Get over yourself.” About as lame as it gets on the Internet, Dirty Sanchez.
Your get rid of BS is based on emotion and not fact. He is not Saban or Meyer. But who else could do what he’s done? Give some facts instead baseless assertions. Opinions are like A holes…
No issue w/ the disagreement, but please refrain from name-calling. thx
Go away
So what was last year? How did dumb and dumber make the playoff last year? Why is recruiting doing better than it has in years? Yesterday was not a great coaching job but it is game one with new players, getting plugged in a hostile environment and Houston made some incredible plays to be able to win. If OU beats Ohio State in two weeks what will you say then?
Just a bad weekend: OU lost. Then Geneo Grissom is cut! What? David King…Tyrus Thompson, Julian Wilson damn very few Sooners made it! Meanwhile, Damien Williams beat out both Daniel Thomas and Lamichael James in Miami.
Did anyone else not that on the FG returned for TD that Siebert started his steps early? If you watch he begins his approach then stops and then starts again. I don’t know that he would have made it but I think the ball is kicked far enough it is not returned.
Yes. I saw that. But, more, it seemed like that was indicative of the whole team. Everyone was overthinking and was thus jerky and indecisive and slow. It was painful to watch.
One of the oldest adages in football is, “You MUST be sound in the kicking game.” Special teams is sort of the canary in the coal mine. It indicates whether your team is disciplined and buttoned down on the details. It’s football IQ.
But for the past two years, OU has given up a punt return TD to Ok St., a converted first down fake punt to Clemson that swung the momentum, and now a RIDICULOUS 109 yard TD return after a FG attempt. AFTER a timeout, and in which it appeared the FG unit had no idea was coming. Or how to defend it. This is on the coaches and needs to be addressed immediately. There is NO room for carelessness or low football IQ the rest of the season.
Nice summary of the kicking game ineptitude by OU. Patterns don’t normally change without being properly addressed. It’s obvious this problem has yet to be properly addressed.
We’ve had much stronger ST in years past. It seemed to be a priority for Coach back when. I’d like to see it be so again.
Just like the texsa game last year OUr weaknesses were exposed. At least it’s early and we have time to make adjustments and get on the right track. I believe we will. This actually sets it up. Ohio State will come in thinking we’re something and we’ll smack them in the mouth with who we really are. I feel sorry for Louisiana Monroe. We are going to work out those kinks on those poor fellows. I hope texsa comes in to that Red River show down unbeaten and ranked. We will be a well oiled machine by then and get right back in to the mix.
That is what happened last year after the texsa debacle. They wore out KSU.
Why does it take a L to bring about adjustments though??? smh
I guess I owe Les Miles an apology or two. Previously, I had imagined that the coach in Norman was on a higher level than Mr. Miles and that he did a better job of getting the most out of his players.
After this game, it seems that Stoops is pretty much on equal level with Miles.
Both get better than average talent to come to their schools, but neither seems to have the ability to take it to that next level of coaching like Meyer and Saban.
They both started off the year with high expectations and came out with an opening game L.
It seems that Stoops has a better overall record than Miles primarily because of being in an easier conference.
Can OU do better than Stoops as HC? I doubt it.
If the talent level improves in Norman, maybe that will be the difference-maker. And the next two classes are looking real good to this point.
It’s time to right the ship.
Herman gets a lot from those less recruited. Mike Gundy does very well with leftovers.
I honestly cannot fathom the overreaction. If we’d won by even one point, I seriously doubt that all this moaning, insults and calling for new coaches would be heard. At least the majority should realize so much of what’s being posted are trolls coming out of the woodwork, and most of the rest will likely be retracted/modified when the BP comes back down to normal.
Man, this place isn’t as enjoyable right now. Guess I’ll only peek back in on this thread when I get my turnout gear buttoned up.
Well…Should be an interesting season.
It appears that OU needs to scrap the idea of starting off the year with high quality opponents. Since they seem to have a history of rough starts against decent teams ala BYU, Houston, maybe we need to start lining up the Sisters of the Poor to start the season from now on. Work out our problems on a team that can’t hurt us. smh
Two things:
1. Houston and BYU weren’t very good when originally scheduled.
2. We should beat them each handily every year, we are OU.
Just my thoughts anyway.
True. We should beat them every year regardless. OU should always be at a higher level of talent than those teams. Good coaching is all that is needed.
(I didn’t say new coaches, although plenty would go that direction.)
Could OUr offense really not expose those problems in the secondary before the season started? Or do some adjustments need to be made in how hard the 1st teamers play against each other leading up to the season? The coaches should know what they have before the team takes the field for the first game.
I don’t consider myself too much of a homer about OU football, as I, in somewhat mercenary fashion, bet for and against them (Vegas is clueless on OU handicapping) week to week. But having watched the game on tape, I was impressed by OU’s ability to shut down Ward on the ground. They also got a pretty good push on the pass rush, but Ward takes deep drops and is hard to get hands on. His back shoulder throws are very difficult to defend, and he was freakily on target. So I don’t think the sky is falling in the secondary.
OU only ran 60 plays (to Houston’s 80) and didnt control the ball or clock. With backs like Perine and Mixon it seems we need to continue to pound the rock. I’d like to see OUr backs lined up deeper in the backfield (like Fourette) and hit the line with some authority. Starting from a standstill position isn’t ideal for big backs like Sam and Mix. I think Coach BB is good, but would like to see more drive blocking and less zone pulling. We have a large OL, and can push people off the ball. Do it.
Finally (forgive my lack of brevity) Houston blitzed repeatedly, and OUr response was the same as last year: let BM run for his life and wait for someone to get open. But SS is gone. And he ain’t coming back. And all that scrambling is going to get Baker hurt. IMO, we must throw to the outet receivers in the flat, or give our WRs a chance to win one-one-battles downfield, and stop being so reliant Baker’s magic show.
Finally, OU shot themselves in the foot with penalties and mental errors. This squad will bounce back with a few adjustments. Again, I’m a betting man, and if these two teams meet again in a bowl game, I’d take OU -4.
Well, a lot of that is on Mayfield. There were at least two times I saw when he had backs open for 5-10 yard gains, and he just ignored them looking for the big play, only to scramble for a 2 yard gain or throw an incompletion down field. Without Shepard to bail him out, he’s going to have to alter his “try to score on every play” attitude, or it really is going to be a long season.
I just don’t understand how Perine and Mixon only ran the ball 6 times each. When we were so successful last year, we were running the ball very effectively. Even if Perine was down, hand the damn ball to Joe Mixon
I just saw that Riley blames himself for not staying with the run more and using Estes’s successful in the first half. He said he is going to focus on getting more carries for those two from here on out. Now, why would you stray away from your players like that? I just want to see the results of using them more. You never go away from what is working for never. You could tell they had no answer for them.
Well, we heard that same line from him last season, didn’t we? He has called a few bad games already in his short OU career and that’s frustrating. I like LR, but we need his A game every week. There’s NO margin for error left in this season. None.
Yes it’s very frustrating to see us time and again to lose games lime this and especially worse when you stop using your thoroughbreds in the second half.
Yep. Too often his post game presser has him saying he messed up. Maybe that’s his way of taking the heat from his players. But this “I called a bad game/ we had a bad game plan” is disheartening when he had weeks of prep time.
Riley is NOT a $950K OC. Not. At. All.
We averaged 2.2 yards per rushing carry.
Both Mixon and Optimus were over 5 yds per carry. Baker was the negative link there.
Same as Heupel. It’s about comfort zones and what they’re comfortable calling. Neither of them are run game minded OCs, and so they’re quick to abandon it. Maybe we should stop hiring “teh air-raidz!” turds and expecting them to be balanced play callers. “teh air-raidz” isn’t a balanced offensive system. That’s why it’s called “teh air-raidz”. And that’s why they don’t know how to run the ball no matter what kind of studs are in the backfield.
Turds? Seriously?
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Egad.
He’s pissing away Mixon’s talent with his air-raid bullsh*t.
The earthquake in Oklahoma was the Monster digging a deeper retirement space.
Everybody have a blessed Sunday! Remember, there are way more important things in life than football.
Yes there is. I’m disappointed but it isn’t going to bring me down. We have another game this week to focus on. Have a great day. BOOMER!!!!
TV big heads are sayin’ …….OU lost “In every phase of the game”.
yes, espn is saying OU was dominated in the trenches. They didnt even see the game. OU was not dominated. They were the physically bigger, stronger team. Houston blitzed repeatedly, and we didnt counter that blitz effectively. On D, OU shut down Ward’s run game, and you can’t do that if you’re being “dominated.” The difference in the game was Ward’s uncannily accurate back shoulder throws, and the terrible Defensive 3rd down personal fouls that kept Houston’s offense on the field. They ran 20 more plays than OU. That’s a killer.
Nice analysis; I concur.
All of the talk before the game was about how UH would blitz the crap out of us and it appears we weren’t prepared for it. Why not? Isn’t that part of game preparation? Coaches have a lot of questions to be answered but there is no accountability.
espn is also saying ou is dead and buried, but that LSU is still in the hunt for the playoffs. Danny Kannel can’t keep from smiling,
We did
Saddly it is true and was out coached to boot. OL and DL are both very bad. Worst group of LB’ers i have ever seen at OU, even During schnelly or Blake’s era.
There is no Brandon Everage , Roy Williams, Nic Harris type safety. They would make people pay the price when they played. OU has physical DB’s playing safety and zero physical DB’s.
Only strengths OU has is Baker,Perine,Mixon,Andrews and a couple froshman that are trying to get playing time.
Did Caleb Kelly play?
As much as I hated on Sanchez’s inconsistent play and tackling last year, we sure could have used one of his timely picks yesterday. I’m sorry Zach. Forgive me? Come back? Oh wait……too late. We both lose.
JMHO. I think OU ran into a ‘perfect storm’ yesterday. Houston is a very good, not great team. All the conference realignment talk (is Houston good enough for the Big Xii) provided an incredible amount of motivation to play the game of their lives. They were fortunate enough to have a so-so passer play at the professional level. They were incredibly lucky on key 3rd and long penalties to maintain critical momentum. The kick-six is a once in a lifetime thing.
No, it’s not time to replace either of the Stoops brothers or to get a new offensive coordinator. The offensive line just needs time to jell.
We’re going to be stuck with the reality of Riley for years given his salary. He’s not a complete OC nor does he have a complete offensive system. He’s a novice and he calls games like one.
My .02 from being at the game. The key play in the game was early when Bake got lit up on 3rd down in the red zone for holding the ball. There was a pick play and he didn’t throw it. Why, no clue. I feel if we would’ve scored, it would’ve been a different outcome.
When UH got the ball in the next series, it became a very strange feeling in the game and UH grabbed the mo. From that point on, every break went their way. Heck, the guy next to me was a UH guy and he said it was embarrassing on some of the calls and no calls and he was a past coach. He said, you can always even up the penalty yards after the fact but it was the no calls that was odd.
Lot of stupid mistakes on key downs was our downfall on both sides of the ball.
Worst coaching job in CFB history! I never thought Dakota Austin was div 1 material and he proved me right. Lincoln Riley’s defense was great giving up only 23 points and Mike Stoops offense was stellar scoring 33 points. Whomever has the offensive line responsibility should be fired today. When the season is over we must replace Mike Stoops!
“Worst coaching job in history?” A little melodramatic, aren’t we?
TROLL! TROLL IN THE DUNGEON! TROLL IN THE DUNGEON!
Thought you ought to know… *faints*
Lord love a duck. Lincoln Riley is the same talented guy we had last year, who is very good at what he does. He’s still learning, and will improve every game. The game plan he called could have been better and it will be. But the insults about his worthiness as OC and the calls for his firing/demotion/paycut smells of overreaction. He’s already proven himself a great improvement over his predecessor. This is definitely a thread for grieving but before we say something that might be regretted when he does go, let’s take a breath and remember we’ve stepped up in quality, not down.
Breathe slowly in through the nose, slowly out through the mouth… 😉
So, I’ve had some time to think about the OU game last night. I may be eating my words, but anyone who thinks OU is done this year is sadly mistaken*. I look at 2 factors that if OU tweaked, would’ve created a very different outcome, even if the Sooners play a subpar game. Also, one element that was not utilized last night.
1. Penalties.
It’s not just the fact that OU had more of them than usual (First game, OU usually lays an egg. Unfortunately this isn’t Akron or Utah State.) They had pass interference, roughing the passer and late hit out of bounds during CRITICAL 3rd downs. This had to have happened at least 5 times last night and that changed the outcome by itself. TDs either would’ve become 3 and outs or field goals, but instead they turned into continued drives for points or great field position. They weren’t necessary and I fully expect them to correct that. More experience for the new starters will also make things better.
2. Special Teams
This obviously shot us in the foot. Lol Even I had to admit that the return was pretty spectacular… But I wish it didn’t happen. Getting the correct people in there would’ve probably stopped it short of a TD. I suspect they’ll be ready for that next time. Kudos to Houston for the nice play ?.
Missing Element: Perine
Look, if he’s in the game, our run game improves dramatically. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. That hit was one of the harder hits I’ve seen Samaje ever take. It’s almost like he was slowly down to change direction and right before he planted or braced for it, he got smashed full speed right in the arm. He was done. Luckily, I don’t think it was anything some rest won’t heal. Having a beat like that at your disposal is going to help any team.
So there you have it. If those things change for the positive, I fully expect my Sooners to get right back on track. OU losing was probably the worst thing that could happen for teams in the Big 12 (specifically Texas) and Ohio State. It just made them hungrier.
* IF they improve on those factors and play like they’re capable, OU will have a great year.
If I could upvote another 99 times, I would.
On a brite note Cobbs looks like he is going to be a baller once he gets a season of games under his belt. The sad part is OU plays tOSU in two weeks. Kid is going to have to grow up quick
I can’t really reply on anything else, i turned it off right before the half.
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Same ole same ole, poor secondary play, stupid coaching (never should have tried the 53 yard FG), and players not being held accountable for personal foul penalties. Evans, OBO and Cobb, should have had their asses on the bench. I would have told them, they can explain to their teammates why they felt it was more important to take a cheap shot at the opposing teams players, than to help their team win.
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