Dorial Green Beckham Officially Joining The OU Football Program
Posted on: July 3, 2014
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It may have been five years in the making, but former No. 1 overall recruit Dorial Green-Beckham is now officially becoming a Sooner. In a rapidly developing story that started on what felt like would be a slow news day Thursday, Bob Stoops and the University of Oklahoma released an official statement on the addition of the former Missouri wide receiver.
“We are pleased to welcome Dorial to the University of Oklahoma, where he is excited to continue his education and resume his playing career,” Stoops said. “Dorial understands the privilege and responsibilities of representing the Oklahoma Football program. He is a talented young man who is eager to get to work with the rest of our team in the classroom and on the field.”
Additionally, Green-Beckham also put out a brief statement regarding his decision to join the OU program.
“I appreciate this opportunity from Coach Stoops and the University of Oklahoma,” said Green-Beckham. “There are people here who will help me build a strong foundation. I’ve disappointed myself and others in the past. I know that I have a lot of work to do and I’m ready to get started. OU is a great program and I feel privileged to be part of it. The university has made the expectations clear and I want to live up to them and be a positive part of the campus and team. I also want to thank Coach Gary Pinkel and the University of Missouri.”
It’s real, people.
Discuss.
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I’m as much a fan of second chance as any but this — feels like it’s not going to end well. He’ll be on the scout team for a bit, then will end up leaving. Not a good look, imho.
Well, take your midol and maybe your scared inner child will gain some confidence.
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yes, try to think positive. what have we got to lose?
I’m all for thinking positive – so here’s to hoping things turn around for him, and he’s a great contributor both on and off the field. 🙂
The Sooner secondary is gonna he one hell of a workout against the scout team.
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Chances are this post breaks the record for comments? I don’t see much risk, I’m sure Stoops made it extremely clear that he could be cut for any incident off the field. I don’t know about Pinkel, but Stoops is known to be very stern and honest about the consequences of any action of any kind.
Mentioned this to a friend, but expect him to room with one of team’s leaders, whether it be Knight, Wilson, Bell, etc…
With DGB and Mayfield, our scout team may be the second best team in the entire big 12.
He’ll get arrested & booted off team long before that
Unfortunately, you can’t wait for it to happen. Are you really an OU fan hoping for the best in a kid or the worst?
I always hope for the best in every situation. But I am a realist. We can agree to disagree.
In my humble opinion, this an Aggie move, taking great athletes that we pass on (because they are low character players), i.e. Prentiss Elliott & Devon Thomas. This is a low character ADULT male who can’t stop making dumb–not poor,–but dumb and definitely illegal decisions. I think OU is taking a big risk. I don’t think the damage he could do is worth it. And quite frankly, I do not think he is worthy of wearing my alma mater’s colors.
Wow…..great. …another cop with a horrible outlook
A horrible outlook because I don’t share your opinion? Like I said, we can agree to didagree.
I tell you what…I’ll take your outlook on things and see this as a positive. I’ll even ask this fine upstanding citizen to babysit your kidskids for you while you and the Mrs. go out on a date. I’ll bet they’ll be perfectly safe in his company , and you won’t have a moment of anxiety about the safety and well being of your kids, especially if you have a teen-aged daughter. She won’t have to worry at all about being thrown down to the ground/down steps if he gets mad & doesn’t get his way.
Nice stupid strawman you built there. did you strain yourself knocking it down?
If I want a babysitter I’ll get one. You I wouldn’t trust to watch my dogs. You’d probably shoot them since you already know what everyone and everything does before they do.
Nice. Very classy.
Yes, we need to ask ourselves if want people like that in our neighborhoods.
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JB, I’ve read all your posts and I will give you a compliment. You are a very good writer. Also, no one has positioned themselves better than you. For example, DGB will never make it cause he will get the boot. DGB’s history will dictate his future which means he will cause great harm to OU.
However, you have also said, I wish him well, I truly do.
Bottom line, if DGB does well, you will come back and say, DGB WANTED to change and like I said, I wished him well. If DGB messes up, you again will be the first to post and say – see I told you.
This brings me to one point, pick a side and don’t play the fence game. Reminds me of the kid who wasn’t very good at sports but was smart so when he was getting beat, he would make up new confusing rules so he could get the ball back. If the other kids didn’t go with it, he would continue to argue until they gave in. You are that kid who later watched in the stands and argued every call of the officials.
You might be onto something Boom.
You are not being a realist. Identifying reality is realism, the reality is, you cannot diagnose a persons future based upon their past. It is an easy way to make conversation, but really, we are talking about an equal, a human being here. Thats real.
I never passed Philosophy class in college…
That is the variety about us, we are all so equally human. Pride comes before the fall.
And all equally and freely given the source of salvation as well. In this particular case, I feel it goes beyond saying that given the level of the ramifications and the high stakes, that those decision makers made every reasonable effort to assess the reasonability of this individuals intent to change and to conform with the high standards of the university and all it’s many and varied constituents. Every relationship in life has it’s inherent risks and rewards. We do the best we can with God’s help. All businesses assume the risks, all marriages assume the risks, all generals and leaders assume the risks in hopes of the reward. We will see the outcome all in due time but either way, I have every confidence that Stoops and all decision makers acted with utmost due diligence and perhaps just as importantly, decent humanity which in turn offers it’s respective hope for humanity itself.
And that ends the debate indeed. Amen.
Not quite
I appreciate your argument and the respectful way you presented it. Thank you. I agree every relationship has its risks and rewards. I just don’t agree this is something OU should risk. Bob did not have to but he chose to anyway.
I pray the man can find the right path in life…somewhere else.
Prospect theory, gents. Wishful thinking has nothing to do with this.
Hides behind a badge and a bible. Probably gets a woodie when young black men are stopped with 7 other rightous uniforms.
But you still have the best name EVER!
Actually, you can make some pretty reasonable predictions based on their past. Are you right 100% of the time? Of course not. Nothing in life is 100%. But I can tell you what I see at work. I arrest someone for…let’s say grand larceny. The guy already has a record for a felony like possession of CDS with intent to distribute & 2nd degree burglary. He’s 19 and already racked up 2 major felonies. If he gets off or pleads it down, do you honestly think this person is suddenly going to become a first class citizen from this day forth because he got caught? Chances are overwhelming that he’s not. That reality proves itself over and over again.
Would you want someone with that criminal record living next door to you & your children? Of course you wouldn’t because the odds are greater than not he will steal from you at some point or do worse.
And yes, we are talking about a real ADULT human being who should know right from wrong by this stage in life.
I would have to interject here that the instances you’re citing and DGB’s are quite different in that when you make your arrest and the person is prosecuted, cleared whatever, he/she is probably not given the kind of quality opportunity being offered in DGB’s case.
The kids you’re seeing go through the system don’t have an opportunity like this as a second chance. It would be very interesting to see how many young men/women might straighten their lives out if such golden opportunities existed for them.
So, I guess what I’m saying is, let’s just see if this was indeed the wake-up call he needed. Until he falls back into it, I’m giving him a vote of confidence.
He had a golden opportunity at Mizzou and repeatedly urinated on it. A change of scenery always sounds great but it’s the person who ultimately has to change.
OK, I see your point, only tried to make mine. All we can do is take a wait-and-see approach, continue to love our Sooners and hope for the best. Eh?
Agreed. I still want the best for OU and I hope with everything in me this doesn’t blow up in our faces. That would be the preferred scenario for all of us going forward.
When you are giving these examples of people you are grouping DGB in the same category. I myself have done some terrible things in my life, things most people in my family don’t and will never know, but I can also assure your sir I am nothing like I used to be. Your one track way of thinking all people do this because everyone else does this is completely wrong.
There are exceptions like yourself…people who truly want to and will change. I think you’d admit though MOST people dony’t.
Where my alma mater is concerned, I wish they had played the odds.
I feel sorry for ya, I really do.
No need. But thank you for your concern!
JB,
To be honest, when I have a child, I would prefer to have two neighbors of your profession on either side of me. But the point is to be the best human beings we can be, in all circumstances, and I think we can all agree that a truly good human being will look upon every human being as being essentially good. Some people, like myself, have gone to great lengths to prove that sentiment wrong. But of all things in this world, you have to see that humans have the greatest capacity for transformation and for good. This is the way I want to be leaning. God knows there will plenty of chances to point the finger and say, ‘see, people don’t change’. But there are more than a handful of people alive today who were once dead-dark-and gone, worse than DGB ever was, and are now alive and full of light. Lets see about this one, but lets not doom folks before they get to the tomb.
Good damn thing this isn’t an arrest situation for you. Therefore , NONE of you assumptions hold any water here.
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Oh I beg to differ sir. One can never be sure of anything but I can’t even begin to count the number of times I’ve been wrong about people turning over a new leaf.
Zebras rarely change their stripes. I hope I’m wrong but…………
Depressing.
Wow, so you are a cop. Exactly the position we don’t need you in. It’s very clear you think you know everything about everyone before it happens. What a recipe for disaster.
Since you know nothing about me and your assumptions are far off base, that’s an irresponsible statement. That would be like me making claims or assumptions about you and your job when I don’t know anything about it.
I never claimed to know the future. I don’t know this man, but I do know what he’s already done. There is a pattern and it isn’t a good one. You mentioned a recipe for disaster…bringing in a man with a pattern of criminal behavior and booted from his previous team isn’t a recipe for disaster?
Be sure to let me know when my recipe culminates in disaster. I’m over 40 and still waiting for it to happen.
I understand your point, I really do. Being a cop, you must see much more of this than many of the rest of us (I haven’t read all of your posts, there’s like, a hundred of them). I get that you don’t trust guys like this. My question to you is, is it really that rare for guys to turn their lives around? I understand that, for the most part, he was a decent kid in high school. Isn’t it possible that his environment and status in a place like Columbia, Mo. could have bred this situation and created a monster? What makes it so hard to believe that a change in scenery could make all the difference in the world? I’m honestly asking here. I don’t want to argue, I just think you would have better insight to this thing than most of us (me for sure).
this young man has another chance. he will either take advantage of it or he will be dismissed again. i say he has too much talent to pass up and give him a chance with a short leash. what have we got to lose? he may turn out to be the best thing that ever happened to us. we will see.
This will be at least his fourth chance? At what point do you say enough is enough?
I knew you were a cop in your very first post before you even acknowledged it. For me, you are exactly what is wrong with law enforcement. Everyone is guilty in your eyes, and people are incapable of change. You do realize he is pretty much still a kid right? Believe it or not he still has plenty of time to make a positive impact on society……and you’d prefer to just throw him away. I can’t even begin to tell you how much cops like you disgust me. I’ll also trust those closer to the actual situation and their judgement on this over yours, as it is obviously clouded with pessimism.
No, every one is not guilty in my eyes. I run into good prople on my job every day. I don’t want to throw anyone away. I think someone else ought to take that risk, not OU. Maybe the USMC could give him the character he needs.
Cops don’t get to arrest because we think somebody is guilty. So it doesn’t really matter what any cop thinks. We don’t get to decide guilt or innocence. That is for judges and juries.
I will tell you this since you don’t know anything about me…if you ever break the law or have an investigation of you, you want me doing it. My background & degree from OU are as a health care professional. I use a hypothesis-oriented algorithm when I investigate a crime the same way I came to a patient diagnosis. I test both sides of the equation and work to disprove the hypothesis & the null. I do not go in with a preconceived notion and look only for the evidence that will support a person’s guilt. I believe in our Constitution and Bill of Rights & swore on oath to uphold the law.
Unless you are a total jerk or the law allows me no discretion, 99% of the time I won’t write you a citation even though I just caught you breaking the law. If all of that makes me what’s wrong with law enforcement, so be it
But getting back on track, we aren’t talking about legality of OU taking on a high risk person of low character. The law has nothing to do with it. This is a decision the football team’s dictator Bob Stoops gets to make all on his own. I think he’s wrong on this one. Coach is great but he’s fallible like the rest of us. It wouldn’t be his first mistake.
I appreciate your work JB, nonetheless despite differing viewpoints. Thank you.
Thank you, kind sir. The beauty of this website and this life is that it’s okay to agree to disagree! Have a great Independence Day celebration with your family!
One more thing, lovethemsooners, in spite of your incorrect assumptions about me or your insults/feeling of disgust, I would still risk my life to defend yours.
Want a cookie?
Chocolate chip, please.
See JB, that’s just more cop arrogance. I don’t need you or anyone like you to defend me. I am a grown man with the resources to do that for myself. Thanks anyway.
Not hypersensitive at all. Just pointing out your assumptions of me were off base I wasn’t offering out of generosity. It’s my job and my duty to act. If you don’t need the police to help you if your life or property are in jeopardy, then you are my hero.
Why do I have to be a hero because I’m capable of defending my own? I think this nation is full of folks just like me. It’s a cops arrogance that keeps them believing that we actually need them in that capacity.
You contradict yourself in your own post. You are judgemental and predetermined everyones failure. The big problem is you are blind to your own biases.
Actually I didn’t contradict myself at all. I don’t know everyone’s future, not even my own. I never claimed otherwise or “predetermined everyone’s failure “. You put words in my mouth and made that claim for me. I don’t like to name call as I don’t find it productive. But if you declare me blinded by bias, wouldn’t it be equally fair to say that you are blinded by his potential football field production over his actual production off the field? Make no mistake, as you demonstrate in your own post, we are all judgmental even when we like to believe we are not.
I’m disgusted over this not because of what he might do; I’m disgusted by what he’s already done. Anything that happens from this day forth is salt in the wound. If you read my words carefully for what I’ve actually said–not what you chose to hear/read–I think his odds of staying out of trouble are poor and wished that Bob would’ve played the percentages there. My example of the person arrested for multiple felonies demonstrated that criminals repeat criminal behavior more often than not. It is not a wise gamble to bet the other direction.
I can, just like you, make an informed prediction based on past behavior. If you drove to work down a certain street 3 days in a row you had a flat tire each day, wouldn’t you change your route to work? It’s reasonable to predict you’re at great risk of it happening 4 days in a row. Logic would suggest taking another route is the wise choice.
That’s exactly what I think OU should have done…go a different direction.
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Yea, about that innocent until proven guilty. Please show me the multiple felony convictions he has.
this logic explains why prisons are full all over america.
While I sincerely appreciate your work as an officer of the law, please tell me that what you meant to say is that you are in it to protect and serve ALL of us, not just those who can’t defend themselves.
Absolutely. I didn’t say ONLY those who cannot defend themselves. Those who cannot defend themselves were the most inspirational to me to get into this line of work. As I said, I do not like those who prey on my fellow MAN. By “man” I mean EVERYONE.
Did you even read your initial post?
“He’ll get arrested & booted off team long before that”
If that isn’t seeing the worst in someone, and not having any faith in the human spirit for change, than what is? You act like he’s some kind of hardened criminal, when in fact he’s only really committed one offense(allegedly) of any serious nature, that you nor I have all the details on, so who are any of us to pass judgement.
Its amazing to me that cops like you, and certain members of society are still hanging on to Cannabis being something horrible. You do realize it’s about to become legal in this country, and 10 years from now, the days of marijuana being illegal will be thought of in the same way prohibition was. I for one am anxious for MY tax dollars to stop being spent on the persecution, prosecution, and incarceration of folks that use it.
That initial post was sarcastic, my friend.
That’s what you say because you got blasted by everyone for it.
I’ve seen marijuana ruin more lives than any other illegal drug. It is bad for you and all scientific evidence proves that, and the stuff they grow today is much stronger than the stuff we saw in high school (2-4% THC vs 35% and climbing). It may become legal, it may not. But now you’ll see a drastic increase in traffic fatalities secondary to DUI marijuana. All of the “tax and regulate” revenues that they always promise will be spent creating more and more treatment centers just Luke happens in other countries that legalize drugs. Remember when the lottery was going to fix our schools and roads? I’m still waiting for that to happen but I won’t hold my breath.
The Sinaloa cartel loves the states that are violating federal law by “legalizing” so they can grow it here instead of smuggling it across the border. Financing drug cartels always yields positive results.
Maybe it will be legalized someday. But today, it is still illegal even in states lime Colorado. After 2016 expect the Feds to shut that down.
Nope not going to get into a debate over the effects marijuana has. There’s no way you’ll ever convince me that marijuana ruins more lives than folks that use “real” drugs like cocaine, lsd, meth, and heroine. I’m sure you also don’t believe marijuana has any medicinal value at all, but if you did your homework you would.
Best of luck to you when you finally retire. I look forward to the day when our police force isn’t so skeptical of the public in general, and anxious to just throw people away.
“Marijuana ruins lives” just like “guns kill people”.
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Out of your entire post I find this section to be the most illogical:
How on earth do you know where legal sellers in states like WA and CO obtain their product? How do you know that they’re not growing it……wait for it………themselves?
Without any connections to the drug cartels whatsoever.
What are you talking about. JB is just short of omnipotent. He knows everything before it happens.
he just made that up. it makes no sense. but some of the weak minded will believe it. its part of the war on drugs. make them believe stupid stuff we tell them. but, we are wising up.
sorry, the war on drugs is a complete loss. we fill up prisons with these young people for smoking a plant. the prison does more harm than the weed. time to legalize it and get it off the streets. i think its better than alcohol and certainly no worse.
Nothing has ruined more lives than dirty cops with a racial agenda.
And your are perfect in you assessments. Good to know.
TLTR
JB, your background would provide a handy resume to open your own business in the sports world. Colleges and Pro personnel hire you to put HS or college kids through your rigorous integrity/character test. You could provide data back to the coaches/scouts on who will make it and who’s a thug. You already know your the best so give it a go, kinda like how Dr. Phil got his shot.
Now, on your thoughts on Bob. He is a CEO, not a dictator. He let’s his coaches do the scouting./coaching. They say who they want since they are going to be the ones coaching the kid. When a recruit messes up, it’s a lot of folks faults, but only the head guy gets the blame which is fine cause he’s the one making the big bucks. Also, not one coach has had a perfect resume with recruits, it’s impossible.
I’m pretty sure he’s miffed at Stoops for giving young black men a chance. They are his most reliable arrests to justify his milking the taxpayers.
I don’t agree with JB, for the most part. It is, however, unfair to place this type of judgment on this poster. First of all, how do you know that JB isn’t black? Pulling the race card on this one is going too far.
Come on. JB has a large chance of being exactly right about him. I was once a hiring manager for a large fortune 50 company and personally hired from 5 to 40 people a week for many years. When he tells you that the best predictor of future performance is past performance, he could not be more right. Whether it was attendance problems, attitude problems or petit crimes if you got a review from a persons previous employer that said they had such and such a problem, then it was a rare day that we didn’t have the same problem, sooner or later, if we hired them. I had the least turnover ratio in our region by paying attention to their history. If you have had 4 jobs in five years and blame it on bad bosses, or trouble showing up on time, even though you now have another car that was the alleged reason for the problems and will solve all your problems, you’ll start showing up tardy sooner or later just as sure as the sun rises. Having said that I learned to be good AT DETECTING THE FOLKS THAT I BELIEVED were truly sincere at changing their ways. And I used the same methods, essentially. If they were telling me how much better they were going to be etc. etc. I didn’t touch them. If, on the other hand they gave me good concrete examples of them having already changed in small but important ways, and been successful at it I sometimes was willing to give them a second chance. I hope that Bob Stoops has heard such a thing from this young man, and by a preponderance of facts aside from DGB’s own expected (and exceedingly sincere vocal promises, no doubt) he has come to believe this truly is a man genuinely dedicated to being a better person. And I can’t help but believe that that is exactly what happened knowing Stoops reticence to put up with nonsense from knuckleheads, and especially someone else’s knucklehead!
After the 5th chance I will have to do some checking, but I think that’s right.
I haven’t been completely at ease with this decision yet but last I checked, he’s just on his first chance at OU. Sometimes when someone is in the dumpster and decide they want to get off drugs or whatever their problem is, it requires a change of atmosphere and getting away from the bad influence. That is the only reason I am willing to sit back and see what happens.
I hear you, Ray and understand what you are saying. But people only change when they WANT to change not because they are forced to do so or run out of options. I can’t just overlook his past. If it had been only one thing in his past, I could live with it.
I have zero tolerance for domestic violence because it becomes a pattern that repeats and escalates in the vast majority of situations.
Who says he is being forced to? Maybe the reality of almost losing/missing out on his dream of playing in the NFL made him realize he needs to change. I don’t know. Stoops hasn’t missed on many true second chances. Besides that, what is the worst that can happen to OU football from this? DGB get’s caught dealing again, Bob boots him, and there are some stupid rumors about our program for a couple of weeks, or a few months? The same “rumors” that are probably already ongoing about OU football? Pssh. Doesn’t affect our program at all.
He was forced to leave Mizzou team. Options limited.
I love OU football but I love the University even more. It matters to me how it is perceived on the outside. I don’t care much about petty rumors. If he messes up it won’t be a rumor, it’ll be provable fact. I am embarrassed for my alma mater when I see things like Charles Thompson in handcuffs on SI or Rhett Bomar and his misdeeds. Those are a disgrace. Some of us really care about those things.
So you think you have evaluated the situation better than Stoops? How arrogant.
Do I think I’ve evaluated the situation better than Bob? In this case, yes. Dissenting views do not equal arrogance.
Bob’s expertise is in Xs and Os. Mine is in criminology. Bob isn’t God, nor am I. Just because Bob evaluated this decision doesn’t make it a bad one. I’ve already listed several players in other posts so won’t rehash those. But I just remembered too that a couple of years ago Bob also dismissed something like 11-13 players who were bad for team chemistry too. See, he makes mistakes like the rest of us.
No you are wrong again. Bob’s expertise is in way more than X’s an O’s or Gibbs would have been a Hall of fame coach.
Bob’s expertise is in team management and personnel evaluation.
You have once again overstated your qualifications and understated Bob’s.
Well here is an idea you go become a judge then you can till then you are just an asshole.
Once again, I love ad hominem arguments!
“Jesus loves you pimp” oh the Irony in that statement.
what’s up J.K.? pictures where hilarious.
It’s in the article. He has zero slack at OU. That is exactly why there is almost purely upside to this. But you can’t see this because you know what happens.
What do we have to lose? Hmmm…how about honor and integrity, for taking on Mizzou’s troubled rejects especially if he batters a woman again?
OMG we don’t lose anything he would.
I’m sure you must be right. OU wouldn’t be embarrassed at all. Lawrence Phillips didn’t harm Nebraska’s reputation one iota. People never associate him or Damon Benning or Riley Washington or Jason Peter with NU anymore. 🙂
Oh yea, it was a sad day when Nebraska shutdown from losing their honor over Phillips. Oh wait, no they didn’t.
Additionally, you are comparing completely different situations. Stoops has given zero tolerance, all prior problems were with Pinkel and MU.
Phillips was all with Osbourne.
You simply can’t see your own bias.
I have a feeling JB might look like this.
Are you sure you are a cop?
OU (“we”) losing honor and integrity isn’t relevant to you. Thus, don’t assume it’s a characteristic of yours that will be harmed. OU has their own honor and integrity to guard, not yours.
With all the respect, if you really are a realist, you should see the reality. The reality is a young man who has made some dumb decisions. I don’t know of any people who didn’t make plenty of dumb decisions when they were his age. The reality is that people CAN change. Why are you so sure he won’t/can’t?
There are dumb decisions and there are felonious decisions. His are the latter. I’ll say it again, I’ve made it through 4 decades without trafficking narcotics or battering a woman. I wouldn’t have had the weight and influence of a major state university behind me to sweep away my messes for me, yet I still managed not to do those things. I knew right from wrong at a much younger age than this man is now. I hope he is that rare individual that truly changes his ways. But that does not change my stance that his past should disqualify him from donning the crimson & cream.
Your own hubris is astonishing. Turn off your self-righteous me filter and look at the situation. My God you come across as arrogant beyond belief.
That’s your perception. OK. Next?
Not perception fact. You continue to list felonious actions that were neither adjudicated not raised to the felonious level. My gut tells me you know this but simply want to use it to try to win an argument because you have to right ALL the time.
Part of the at God /Cop complex you keep showing here how you are better at everything than everyone else. You know people you have never spoken to better than Bob who has spoken to them. You know more than the DA in MO. You know DGB intent. You know his future.
This post exemplifies the huge gulf between the police and the public. Your butthurt tonight means some poor citizen will pay dearly. Wonder how your mom feels about that.
I really hope you don’t act/say things like this in person.
You would prefer dishonesty or a person who advocates for domestic violence and drug trafficking?
Having your future ripped out from under you tends to wake a person up.
send him to prison and lock him up for twenty years. thats how we rehabilitate here in america. he hasnt even been charged with a felony yet. some people just give up on people too quickly. maybe bob sees hope in this young man and realizes he has too much talent to let it go to waste. give him a chance and see if bob can make a difference. we dont have that much to lose and a lot to gain. i believe in chances and more than a few. people really can change when they have people that really show they care. too many are too quickly forgotten and thrown away.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. My question is will you man up and eat crow if you’re wrong?
That statement was tongue-in-cheek on the time frame. Sarcasm doesn’t translate well in print. I sure as heck hope he doesn’t embarrass us that quickly! I hope now that he’s our problem to deal with that he is able to contain his depraved behavior, at least until he’s moved on. I want to be wrong as far as whether he’ll commit another transgression.
But I’m not wrong about the main point I was making. People are defined by their actions; his actions have been those of a criminal. That’s what we just brought into the program. If it is humility from me you seek, I am humiliated already. I’ve already lost. I can’t imagine eating crow or a turd sandwich would be any more disgusting than the taste this leaves in my mouth. What’s worse is, time passing isn’t making this any better for me. I’m even more disgusted after a night’s sleep.
Violins playing
I believe that Bob Stoops has a great track record of giving people a second chance. He also has been known to get rid of the bad apples. I trust his judgement. I understand that you believe DBG is a man, but reality is he is still a young man and most people understand that young people can make some very stupid decisions. Since Stoops is the one who has actually met this young man and talked with him I trust his judgement on the matter. Don’t worry though, if you are proved right, trust that Stoops will be quick to take action.
I clicked on a thread about DGB & found a thread about JB….no?
With the prototypical pot discussion & not letting it go, do you ever go by 1214?
Super K, hopefully you guys can keep this site from going off rails.
Regarding DGB, I wasn’t in favor at 1st, but now that it’s happened I trust in Stoops. He knows more about making football operations decisions than us peons will ever dream of knowing.
IMO iron sharpens iron, and just having a player of this caliber at practice is going to make everyone around him better. Stoops will have him on a short leash. Any mistakes and he’ll be gone. Welcome DGB! BOOMER!!!!!
https://twitter.com/ZSanchez15/status/484765742160572416
I pray he stays out of trouble. He has Calvin Johnson type size and speed.
I like it. I trust Bob and company, and their judgments in character. As was written by one of the guys on this site, OU recruiters have had strong relationships with this kid and his family for 3-4 years now…. I’m sure it was really hard for them to see him struggle, as a human being, and want to help him get straight. Congrats on a wonderful blessing and opportunity DGB, and welcome!
and why all this talk about just scout team? will he not be eligible to play right away? He was dismissed from Missouri, not a transfer…so transfer rules dont apply here do they?
I know some are against this completely and originally I was one of those. But after thinking about the scenario back when the rumor started, I thought maybe the kid needed to be further from home and maybe he wouldn’t have been around the distractions. Also we don’t know the whole story with all his allegations. It is too bad he hasn’t received a waiver to play right away but sitting a year may help humble the kid and you may see a hungrier version next season.
I agree. I’ve personally gained from a change of scenery. Things that seemed impossible to change have suddenly become an afterthought after getting away from those who influence or initiate the action. I don’t know how different Norman is from Columbia, but I know that the “family atmosphere” in the OU locker room could do nothing but help this kid. People are gonna hate OU no matter what they do. As long as they (OU) are truly trying to help a kid progress in his life, I can’t say that I disagree with them. Hope he keeps clean.
https://twitter.com/OU_CoachNorvell/status/484766696658309120
Needs to update that wardrobe. Orange & black won’t cut it.
I really wish we could get him on the field this year.
Still might
College Football live on ESPN just mentioned that he could play this year….made it sound like it was probable
My hope is that this young man keeps God first, recognize the blessing of getting another opportunity, and become a positive contributor to OU, his teammates, and the community. #BOOMERSOONER
Agree, great athlete without a doubt, but more importantly keeping a clean direction and respecting others!
https://twitter.com/Jordan_Esco/status/484768152564137984
Haha…..that’s about right. LIKE A BOSS
Will OU try to talk with the NCAA so he can play in 2014 or is this going to be a “Prove it” year for him?
I’m quite confident both he and now OU have already started the process of apply for that waiver
Well hopefully it gets reviewed by a different “judge” than the mayfield situation.
Mayfield Transfered. DGB was kicked off the team. there might be a loop hole in there somewhere.
I think both are considered transfers though but the rule book with was tweeted by someone says basically the waiver is meant for kids who for one reason or another were not able to return to the school “at no fault of their own” or something along those lines.
Will be interesting to see how it plays out
@soonerphins:disqus
Mayfield was also getting no help whatsoever on the financial side—-from either institution, so…………yeah
Know what your saying and agree. Unfortunately, that fact is irrelevant
to the NCAA. Frustrating!
What is the Basis for the Waiver? Why do they think they can get it or is this just a formality that you have to try if you transfer? Does DGB have a leg to stand on?
https://twitter.com/Jake_Trotter/status/484784869285691392
Interesting.
is it multiple choice or do all three factors need to apply? Hard to argue that infractions of school policy are “outside the control” of the athlete I would imagine.
I wonder if the fact that no Charges were filed will play into that! I guess they can argue if he doesn’t get charged with anything that he was released because of Bad Press and a Rush to Judgment (NOT THAT ANY OF THAT IS TRUE MIND YOU!)
Hey Jordan is there any indication that Missouri would write the letter mentioned in number 3? I presume that is why DGB was thanking Coach Pinkel and Mizzou again today in his statement!
Surely there is precedent for this. Of the significant D1 football players “run-off” in a similar manner recently, anyone remember any of them getting a waiver?
I like it, it’s low risk high reward, if he screws up he is gone, and they will say Bob is a good guy for giving him a chance if it works out they will say the same plus he will be come a big time part of the O and even if he has to set out one season and leaves he will make the D better
I agree with Low-Risk, High-Reward view!
The Reward could be great considering WR is one of the places where we don’t have as much “experience”, plus his obvious talent.
However, if things go South then we lose him, but we still have a ton of (inexperienced) talent at the position. That’s what make it low-risk to me, we don’t have all our eggs in this one basket.
Worst case scenario would be if he runs off talented receivers and/or gets into more trouble and drags others down with him.
Let’s hope this is the year everything breaks our way again!
Rumor is that the family may also move to Norman with DGB, tells you the commitment that the coaches and family have to getting this guy back on track. Still, just a rumor.
I’m curious if that’s true. Murdock was on sports animal saying that DGB was adopted and the family that adopted him has like 12 kids. If they’re all living together I would think it may be false.
Haha wouldn’t that be a trip! Perhaps just the father then?
the always reliable wikipedia says he was adopted, along with his brother, by his high school coach and his wife who have one other child. The two lived in the coach’s home since 2006 and were adopted in 2009.
That’s why I don’t pay for SS lol. Wikipedia is the most reliable website IMO
Here’s a slightly different version from a 2011 story by an ESPN recruiting writer: “John and Tracy Beckham have fostered about 20 children over the past two decades. They’ve adopted five — soon to be six, with the addition of 17-year-old Scott Smith, a senior linebacker at Hillcrest who landed with the Beckhams last year when forced to leave his family in nearby Webb City, Mo.
In addition to the foster children and adoptive cases, dozens more have lived at the Beckham’s three-bedroom home. And countless others show up periodically for a meal or comfort.”
Sounds like they are outstanding people. Thanks for the post.
Webb City? JY’s old stompin’ grounds!
And a power house high school football program in Webb City, MO.
Every. Single. Year.
Don’t I know it, I’m always reminded when they give us our annual spanking. Coach Roderique has built a great system over there. The same system is infused from pops on up the grade levels. It’s amazing what a great coach can do with kids. My boys wrestle at a high school that wins state championships every year. Their high school coach diligently overlooks the youth wrestling as well making sure their being coached up in the same fashion as the varsity team. He has created expectations and demands in the program. Any good coach in any sport, stresses rudimentary technique over and over again until it’s natural. Webb City doesn’t do anything complicated, but their technique is on another level and all the kids know their assignments. They’ve sent numerous players to Nebraska and I keep waiting for OU to grab one of their top talents like Grant Wistrom, who went to NU.
Was adopted by Hillcrest High School head football coach (Springfield, MO.) John Beckham. DGB also played high school football at Hillcrest. I lived there at the time and the word was he was a pretty good kid. I think he just got off on the wrong path and a dose of reality will get him back on track.
“the word was he was a pretty good kid”
That’s the key right there. If he’s a good kid that got on the wrong path, a wake-up call may do the trick. However, if on the other hand, that “good kid” was just an image for parents & coaches, etc., then this may be short lived. Here’s hoping for the former, for his sake and OUrs.
I was a big fan of Dorial throughout his high school years and followed him. I went to several games just to watch him play. I remember how disgusted I was when he chose MU over OU. I truly hope he’s had his wake up call and helps OU win a championship. Beckham looked over him and his brother extremely well when he was at Hillcrest.
If that’s the case I may change my tune about this but not likely. It just seems the same people who love this move would be the first to torch Texas or Okie lite if they did this with a player of similar problems.
You’ve gotta look at this situation as only positive results can come out of it, bro. I know you’re against it and have every right to be in all honesty. That said, you’ve gotta commend Stoops for taking on such a project that NO other program was attempting. If it doesn’t work out…he’s gone. If it does, this could go down as one of Stoops’ greatest moments off the field rather than on. We know this guy has NFL potential but he isn’t getting there on the road he’s on right now. Now, if Stoops and his rigid no nonsense system prevails, you’re going to have parents lining their kid up at the door. I wish this guy luck because this story can either end with him leaving and everyone forgetting all about it OR have this be a remarkable turn around for an individual that maybe haven’t the best structured system to work within. Not sure if all the stipulations were released but he must attend some sort of councilor and regulatory drug tests so we put the system is in place for success.
What were feelings on Stoops dismissing Damien Williams with only 2 games left to go in the season? Yeah he failed 3 tests for the herb but he could have just sat him. Damien to my knowledge never got nailed for possession & never about got busted for violence against a woman. Don’t get me wrong I’m glad he’s getting his 3rd or 4th chance I just don’t think it should be with OU.
Well good, as soon as you get your own team you can decide.
I’m not familiar with all the details of what happened, but he hasn’t blown his chance with Bob Stoops and that’s what is important right now. If we dwell on his past more and more than we as a fan base are giving him no chance to turn his life around.
First time trying to post a link on here so not sure if it’ll work but I’ll give it a shot.
For those who dont know what kind of talent DGB has here you go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RbScAlzrJM
This. And welcome to our planet as well.
Just lob it up and he comes down with it.
unreal, huge get for OU
I’m not arguing his ability, but I noticed this highlight video wasn’t exactly against tough (SEC) competition like I was expecting. I’ll give you the Auburn catch, and maybe A&M, but the rest were against the likes of Tennessee, Kentucky, Arkansas St., Toledo, & Indiana.
https://twitter.com/OgboOkoronkwo/status/484769010207444992
What is Ogbo referring to? Is it DGB joining and improving the offence?
(Hopefully the video game doesn’t become Grand Theft Auto!!!)
Baron Boomer
https://twitter.com/JDanley54/status/484761145782202368
LOL. Jamal Danley trade marked his name! LAWL!
https://twitter.com/OU_CoachHeupel/status/484772025589055489
just curious…why does he have to apply for waiver to play, like transfers, when he was dismissed from Missouri.. shouldnt that make him eligible right away?
b/c even tho he was dismissed, he’s still considered to be a transfer. not saying it makes any sense, but that’s the NCAA
making sense and NCAA should never be in the same sentence lol
well, here’s to hoping he can get that waiver, considering the charges against him were dropped. Thanks for the quick reply!
This whole thing is just so odd b/c I could’ve sworn we were constantly being told there was nothing to this DGB-to-OU talk???
Hale shot it down every chance he got lol
He wasn’t alone. But that’s cool. We know those who frequent the site know who had it first and who stood by it the entire time. Just makes us appreciate all you readers even more!
I sometimes feel bad about not having to pay for this much info. Maybe a Donation bar or something lol
I’m telling you man, I agree! I have turned so many buddies on to this site because it cuts through all the crap and delivers nothing but the real, inside stuff you normally pay for. Hell, most of the time that pay stuff is recycled garbage and rarely has the juicy, deep, detailed info that Braniacs brings…see the write up on Julian Wilson for example. That piece was nothing short of brilliant! As always keep it up boys and let’s all hope DGB can keep it together and turn into the gamechanger he appears capable of being!!!
BAHAHAHAHAHA!!
I always believe in second errr third chances. However, for the sake of both parties, we better keep some eyes on this guy at all times. Make sure he becomes buds with the most disciplined and experienced players on the team. Being around a solid group of guys for awhile will hopefully make constant supervision unnecessary. Hope he works out and keeps his head straight.
Remember that one time OU didn’t land that recruit that you REALLY wanted to get? Folks, never give up on your dreams.
Like Julio Jones?
LOL.
https://twitter.com/RealDNeal/status/484775693406855168
I wish him the best, also really hope he does stay for 2 years the offense would be unstoppable in 2015. Either way I’m happy the coaching staff gave hime a chance, guys make mistakes and sometimes it takes more than one chance to realize you need to grow up.
Now all we have to do is to get Gunner Keil to transfer as well and we’re in business.
Bawawawawa FTM!
Where you been J.K.?
Doesn’t the NCAA have some kind of potential changes in August that could possibly spring both Mayfield and DGB into eligibility?
Please do tell.
Please tell us where you heard/saw this @lovethemsooners:disqus
With all the Redwoods we have coming in as Freshman they’ll probably be calling DGB “shorty”
DGB is 6’6″ going to have a tall WR corps
I know…thats the point ( most of our incoming kids are about that size as well )
Even if he doesn’t play, certainly will show the freshman how to play.
I’m very ambivalent about this. There’s no denying his talent. It’s his character I’m worried about.
Funny how chatmon said its not worth the PR hit. But its perfectly fine for SEC teams to do this basically every single season(auburn and georgia may as well combine rosters).
It is absolutely, 100%, worth the PR hit. Fans complaining on boards amount to jack squat when it comes to what recruits are coming into the program. Stoops giving kids 2nd chances, and a former #1 recruit coming to your program, recruits most definitely notice that.
I don’t want recruits that come to OU because they will get a second chance. That said, I’ll support DGB and hope he does things the right way.
Its not really much of a secret though, hes well known for running a tight ship, but willing to work with you if you do things the right way(even after screwing up), though its a long trek to get out of his doghouse.
Didnt mean it to come off as us becoming lawless like those SEC teams 😛
I wasn’t for this, but I trust Stoops and his judgment. I read your first post above about taking the PR hit as being ok. I disagree. I like the way Bob runs a tight ship and that he “values” the high character of his program. I am glad that Bob will do the right things for the greater good of his program and not for some instant gratification and risk of doing damage to OU’s and his reputation.
Here is a thought. DGB has already shown that he can’t be counted/relied on to do the right things and follow team rules etc. Why do we want someone in the program that we can’t count on when needed?
However, I am absolutely positive that DGB is on a very short leash and he knows that one little indiscretion and he is gone. I hope he gets things right this time. I hope he enjoys success at OU and gets his life turned around. I am good with this if Bob is good with it :).
The short leash is why this is a easy call to make. He messes up again, hes gone, and its on him. The backlash will be minor, as it will be pretty obvious the kid has problems, and not the fault of the program. But if it works out…we get a hell of a player, and it will do nothing but make us look good.
What i mean by the PR hit being ok is that people are going to perceive things how they want to. They are going to label us with a “win at all cost mentality”. Let them label us, we know it isnt the truth.
Stoops cares about the kids, and about winning, not about how they are judged.
No worries, we all know we are pretty far removed from some of the antics in the SEC.
You got to believe that with as long as this story has been stirring around there were plenty of meetings behind closed doors about this. You can bet EVERYBODY put in their 2 cents worth! If everybody discussed it all the pros and cons were presented and in the end it was determined that it was the right move to give DGB a second chance then it is all good to me. They definitely know more about ALL the situations than I do!!!
Great point.
The people who criticize Stoops and Oklahoma are going to do so regardless of what OU does.
Perfect! I felt this way back when the rumors started circulating about DGB. It doesn’t matter what OU does, they’re going to get trashed. Hell, coach Gundy can’t even express how he feels about his boss w/out getting trash talk. If this kid passes Stoops’ test, then he passes mine.
Yup, I remember listening to some ESPN guy on the radio (don’t know who it was) after the Sugar Bowl who was saying that he thinks Stoops is a jerk because he’s “arrogant” and he doesn’t like the way he “treats the media”. People like that have already formed their opinion and have no interest in finding out what great guy Stoops actually is. So we shouldn’t be bothered by what they think now, no matter what happens.
Geurin Emig says if OU doesn’t get him a waiver for 2014, they’ll lose him to the 2015 draft, like it’s just some sort of fact. This is what “journalism has become in the US these days.
The odds are that he’ll go pro next spring regardless. But Stoops has been very persuasive to many underclassmen to stay longer to boost their draft stock. I imagine he’ll make a strong case to DGB that he could be a high first rounder if he plays at least one year at OU.
That makes no sense. If wanted to bolt for the NFL isn’t there a supplemental draft he could go in and get paid.
He wouldnt be eligible for this years supplemental, unless he got some sort of clearance from the NFL. Otherwise you would see non draft eligible sophmores take that route all the time.
……yeah, if he had transferred to the pukes you’d need a thread for the expressions of disdain from posters saying glad ou wouldn’t do that crap
And you’re happy to be a part of the group that thread would be made for? If this were my kid, I’d be more than happy that someone of Stoops’ caliber gave him this opportunity. I know, I know, you have so much more knowledge about this kid’s character than Stoops ever will, but you have to give us ignorant people a chance to learn (sarcasm font).
ok, if dgb had had these same type allegations/incidents in hs, do you think stoops/norvell would recruit him
I’ve read that he was into some trouble when he was in high school. But, if he wasn’t, than that should go to show that it was his environment that is the likely culprit, and not the kid himself. I think the kid needs a fresh start, and I think that this is a great opportunity for him. Does he deserve it? Probably not. I don’t deserve a lot of the things that I’ve been blessed with in my life, and I realize it. Hopefully he will too. I’m not going to judge him based on his past if he is determined to make a better future for himself. God knows I’ve done some very stupid things in my life. Not once, not twice, but several, several times. I still do and I probably always will. I don’t judge these people because I know what being a kid is like. I remember very well. Judging comes quite easily. I’m just glad that we have a guy like Stoops. He has the courage to make this decision because he truly cares about helping these kids, regardless of what you or I may think of him.
Hey Bob it’s line 3 I think it’s Devon Thomas and he says all he needs is a 2nd chance!
More like a 2nd Round lol at least DGB didn’t almost blow someones head off.
You’re becoming a troll….. Not cool
We get it dude. You don’t like the move. Its done. Get over it. You’re perfect, he’s not. When’s your statue going up outside the stadium?
Except isn’t he still active on the Pokes roster…?
Metoyer, jarboe or kameel Jackson would have stung a little more right? I don’t see the big problem if he messes up he’s done and if he cares about getting to the nfl then I think he will keep it together. He will free fall if he gets kicked out of a second school. But stoops credibility won’t take a hit if anything this is good publicity to show kids he won’t give up on kids he recruits.
Excellent point.
so, if he does something big, like punch a woman, stoops/ou doesn’t take a hit?…..
I mean I think initially it probably would but stoops is giving a kid a 2nd chance (some say 5th chance) but whatever it’s his second opportunity to get it right. But the beating up a girl is just an allegation and I believe guys like DGB and other star athletes are sometimes targets for shenanigans from friends or girlfriends so without being there it’s hard to know what happened.
I just don’t see how stoops or ou could be at fault if something were to happen. It would benefit the university if they make sure he took some sort of counseling or if they require him to do counseling so they can say they did everything possible.
Thomas didn’t have a committable offer…DGB did
I doubt our players will let one guy ruin the vibe in the locker room, and if he messes up once he’ll likely be gone. I trust Stoops.
I wasn’t really interested in DGB coming to OU, but as I said when the original story went up, if Coach Stoops is okay with it, then I’m okay with it and will support the young man.
I think this is a huge mistake. Even if he manages to stay out of trouble, I still think this is a bad idea. Taking others’ problematic players whose rap sheet stats are growing faster than his transcript or football stats. Bad, bad idea. Don’t be shocked when you see him in the newspaper in handcuffs.
You’re right, people should never get second chances.
Technically, this is about chance 5 or 6 I think
He has one chance at OU. Hopefully that make you feel better.
Why would that make me feel better? Better about what?
Let’s face it guys. It was the new uniforms that brought DGB on board.
So…Pau Gasol is next, right??
Man I hope so him and miller may be looking to reunite. Okc would be favorites to win title.
That’s hilarious! Would be nice if we landed Gasol. Him & Ibaka would be the inside presence OKC needs…offense AND defense.
Nice of you to lighten the mood. Funny.
I thought it was the ugly Mizzou unis that drove him away!
half empty kid of guy
I just don’t place a lot of importance on the uniform gimmick. If it meant that much toward a signing decision, oSu would be out-recruiting us and beating us regularly. Mike Gundy’s won once, and last year’s game, where we were down 9 starters compared to their 2, shows they aren’t recruiting better players than us.
To borrow from Mike Jordan: “It ain’t the uniforms…”
Of course you don’t place a lot of importance on it, you’re not the intended target (assuming you’re not a 17 year old high school stud…and if you are, why haven’t you already committed to OU?!).
Uniforms alone will never land a recruit, but they certainly think about it, and it can help (conversely, it can be used against a school on the recruiting trail; “We have 6 options of cool uniforms, that team has none!”). Whether we like it, or not, these things do matter.
I’m not saying teams with new alternates are going to suddenly start landing all of the 5 star players out there, but the fact that OSU did a major overhaul on their unis, then becomes a competitive team recently isn’t just coincidence. Of course it’s not just the uniform, but it does add excitement for players and recruits.
This is the way the game is going. A couple of years ago, there was a fairly lengthy list of programs that hadn’t made a change. That list has shrunken quite a bit. When Alabama isn’t winning back to back titles, and things seem to stagnate a bit, there will be changes made. It’s only a matter of time.
To borrow from “Neon” Deon Sanders: “If you look good, you feel good. If you feel good, you play good. If you play good, you get paid good.”
We are the targets…this whole thing was started so Nike could sell more designs to fans.
The facts bear the same conclusion: Winning is the biggest recruiting tool of all. Then invest in your facilities.
Leave the uni gimmicks to loser programs like oSu.
Hey SK don’t sweat it the know it all has already decided what everyone else is supposed to do. If he doesn’t agree it’s wrong.
Since you know everything, what did you decide for us?
No, it was the shoes. The shoes. Why didn’t Jordan where Converse white canvas high tops. Because he created a brand with the shoes. JB, lighten up, we may only use these once and did you ever think that it could create $’s for the university? I realize you are not in business world but that is the way it works.
Who said I don’t have my own business? Okay, I’m not running one now but I’ve owned my own business before. You are right. It can generate more $$ for OU. I get it. I just don’t like it. Why mess with perfection? I agree with Toby Rowland; OU has the perfect uni already. Whether I like them or not, it looks like we’re going down that road anyway. C’est la vie.
Is that why Joe C said, I didn’t understand why our helmet was one color of red, jerseys a different color of red, and our strips on our pants were a different red color. Guess that is perfection to have 3 different colors of red on one uni.
Boom, what are you thinking JB knows more about business than Donald Trump. He knows all sees all. He is better at everything than everyone else.
I’m sure it’s a terrible weight to carry knowing everything.
Oh brother
Always impossible to judge these situations from the outside. Two arrests involving marijuana could be of concern or not. Forcing your way into someone’s room and allegedly pushing them down 4 or more stairs–not so good. It’s not just the issues, but the fact that they were of enough significance to create official (police) involvement. That and reading about his background makes you think he’s probably a troubled kid who needs some help in addition to just hanging out with new friends and teammates. Sure hope this story has a happy ending. At this point it feels like his immense football talent is a footnote. Let’s hope it becomes the main story.
Been busy today, haven’t read through the comments yet so I will just say…..I hope to God this turns out to be the biggest damn success story in college football history. If he even farts and someone smells it, I hope he is done.
We’ve got great kids at OU, hopefully it’ll rub off; It’d be nice if he goes on the next Sooners4Haiti trip, assuming he’s still around by then, it might help.
That would be a very good trip for him to take, good thinking, I hadn’t even thought of that Shelby. Let’s just keep our fingers crossed and hope he doesn’t bring the program shame.
Agreed, I’ll support him and the decision to bring him in, but he’s getting a damn good opportunity and it’s on him if he ruins it!
I totally agree Shelby, it will be on him if screws up again. This is his one chance to show the NFL he can be the man and player they would expect him to be. There is no dishonor in giving a person a second chance.
Exactly!
LOL.
I really hope this kid makes good and gets his act together, even if he doesn’t end up contributing much to the team. If he does stay 2 years like they ask and makes an impact on the field, all the better. But frankly, I really am not holding my breath on this. First I’m not convinced the kid will honor his word and turn down potential 1st round draft money to stay in school another year. And second, in light of the fact he is redshirting, what are the chances someone who has been in this much trouble actually makes it through his redshirt year without screwing up? He could be gone before he is even eligible to play. That said, I really sincerely hope he proves people wrong and makes the most of this opportunity while he can.
…..’Bring the Hood’!!…………couldn’t resist…..
Does Springfield MO have a ‘hood?
Oh yes…Central High area, Kearney St..According to KY3 (television) there are a number of gangs in Springfield, including Gangster Disciples, Vice Lords, Latin Kings, Surenos out of Chicago, Bloods and Crips out of Los Angeles, and MS 13 out of Central America.
The notorious street gang Mara Salvatrucha or MS 13 (mentioned in the KY3 story about Springfield, MO’s gang problem) was said by Newsweek to be “the Most Dangerous Gang in America” and says this exceptionally vicious Central American gang is considered the fastest-growing, most violent of the nation’s street gangs.
Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/springfield-branson-area/40431-moving-springfield-mo-now-im-getting.html#ixzz36SLF11zO
a wanna be hood
DGB is a luxury—-not a need. We lose almost the entire O-Line next season so……………….does it really matter?
Congratulations JY you will have a blast with the new edition.
You’ve gotta wonder if this move was to divert the public away from the new uniforms…
By the way, I stand by them 100%. I bought my alt away jersey today.
I’ve got to think there’s a better than 50% chance he’s cleared to play by the time august rolls around. If he were forced to sit out the whole year I can’t see him not wanting to go to the draft. Just staying out of trouble for the next 10 months would be enough for this kid to go in the first round. I don’t think the plan was to bring him here to wait and play in 2015.
Hope your right and he get’s to see the feild this yr.
Oh if he does, this is basically Blind Side 2: DGB.
good one lol………did you buy one without the faux wood grain or is that possible
No, it has the wood grain. Didn’t want to half-ass my support. You never know, years from now we could be looking at current events as new traditions.
Welcome DGB. Make your stay at ou memorable… For the right reasons
200 comments at the time I post this. I fear this story will break the internet.
Thanks bud, great videos to start off the day. Yes, we all listen when the King talks.
@ the 3:52 mark, the King explains it all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enOXri6ahgA
Here’s another to ease your dead period blues:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JATdOXA771A
I am one of the guys that is in favor of this move and don’t think the negatives are all that overwhelming. But do you guys think that even if he gets the waiver for 2014 OU should suspend him for the first 4 games? Totally disregarding what happened the night of the alleged assault he was caught with a pound of weed in January. Is OU really going to say he was already punished for this? That could certainly be sending the wrong message to the rest of the team. Thanks again for all your hard work, TFB. You guys do an absolutely great job!
I imagine he will be held to a pretty high standard within the program.
I read up on SportingNews that these are the steps to getting DGB eligible for the 2014 season.
— Documentation that would show that he would not have been able to return to Missouri for reasons outside of his control. For example, if he indeed was “run off.”
— Oklahoma would have to provide a written statement proving that Green-Beckham is in good academic standing and is on a scheduled path to receive a degree.
— Finally, Missouri would have to provide a written statement supporting the request for the waiver.
First, how do they prove #1 and second, would Mizzou be willing to sign off on the waiver if presented to them?
I would think number 2 would be the trickiest one. I think if mizzou was willing to sign the waiver would help prove the first issue. He was run off due to the allegation of assault but there were no charges for that incident so I think that will be smoother than people think.
I read that the run off rule only applies when the student athlete was released by the university because of factors not within his or her control.
Just read about the new 2 year old “run off” transfer rule that Hickey just became eligible immediately. As long as he has good academic standing, and Mizzu signs off there’s a good chance he will become eligible this year. Anyone know how his grades have been in the past? No skepticism needed.