OU Football Depth Chart Released
Posted on: August 29, 2016
As promised Sunday evening, OU Football officially released the team’s depth chart late Monday morning for the Houston game. And with it came few surprises, at least if you’re a TFB reader and/or been following things throughout the spring/summer.
The only real items of note, barring any surprises, were always going to come from the offensive line and they include Jonathan Alvarez listed as your starting center even after all the talk of Erick Wren through fall camp. Plus Alex Dalton at right guard, thus leaving Dru Samia at right tackle.
Other than that, no real shocks. The top seven or so wide receivers will be mostly interchangeable, so Jeffery Mead and AD Miller being an ‘OR’ situation really doesn’t mean anything. Jordan Wade ahead of Matt Romar at DT is as much injury related regarding the latter as anything else. You’ll probably see some people act like Parrish Cobb being ahead of PJ Mbanasor, but if you read TFB you knew about that last week. Meanwhile, kick and punt returners look exactly as Stoops said they would last Tuesday on his coaches show.
Of course if you see something I don’t, feel free to shout it out in the comments. Otherwise, now that we finally have the all important depth chart….discuss.
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Will Gallimore see plenty of playing time even though he’s listed as a 3rd string de?
yes
Ok. After everything we’ve heard about him would hate to see him get buried on the depth chart.
Im guessing we may really need his size on the line week 3.
I’m really enjoying the ‘well Player X on/not on the OU depth chart is a bit of a surprise’ tweets from people who cover the team on a daily basis.
Maybe they should buy a subscription to the TFB, then they would not be so surprised. LOL
you kid, but if you do have that job how are you not reading everything you can get your hands on? clearly that doesn’t happen, as to why I’ll never know.
if you’re there literally on a daily basis, there should be very little that surprises you when it comes to covering that team. or at least that’s my opinion.
I kid, but it was somewhat serious. I just did not want to type everything you just typed. They obviously are just there to collect a paycheck and nothing more.
You guys are on a completely different level though. It’s really nice to have this info, and know it’s gona be spot on when you read it. The other sports media guys, it seems to me they’re not paid to pay attention, they’re paid to fire out as much as they can as often as they can. They write articles on ther phones, by speaking into them, and they often don’t proofread at all, so there will be ten or twelve spelling or grammar errors, as well as just not making sense in places, in just the smallest lil ol article. It’s crazy, how can they just leave it like that?? They just don’t havta pay much attention as long as they run run run. I guess.. SO, once again, thank you guys, the work you all do is awesome and much appreciated!
Very interesting to see the Center position notes – curious to hear some thoughts on that
LBs Obo 245 J.Evans 235 Tay Evans 242.
Finally Bama sized Linebackers.
That is what I noticed too. That and our D-line is much bigger.
Such a pretty sight to see 🙂
Where is McGuinnis?
Teams are watching tape of our 53rd ranked rush defense from last year.
Getting bigger at LB and deeper Dline we will make a jump in top 20 best run defenses in cfb.
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I am a little surprised to see Seibert handling all 3 phases of the kicking game. Hope this doesn’t wear him down. I know plenty of guys do it but I think it is the first time I’ve seen it during Bob tenure.
that had been out there for a while now, but I agree w/ you re: possible concern. if from nothing else just a fatigue standpoint.
by far the biggest plus on special teams these past couple years was Nick Hodgson on KOs making returns virtually non-existent. i know we all remember the OU kickoff return units of past giving up multiple big returns at times.
That is the biggest I fear I have for the season right now, KO coverage. UGH
Boomer Sooner. Let’s get it boys.
Appears we have a team, let’s get this thing rolling..
What’s the deal with mbanasor?
No idea. He appears to have the tools, it would be my guess that he is just playing stiff and isn’t breaking with receivers the way he should be. K has been high on him.
I wonder if he should move to safety?
He has the size. Not this year but there could be a spot for him next year.
He got hurt a while ago, I think it was a foot/ankle problem. Anyway, I think that nagged him for a few weeks and kept his reps low.
Jordan, question for you. I know you mentioned the “OR” situation doesn’t really matter, and I think that’s probably true.
What I’m wondering is why it’s done. Is it an attempt at motivation for the players mentioned or just trying to put more names on the depth chart?
the former
I think it just means the battle is close enough that it is likely, or possible, to change before the next (first) game.
I’m most shocked my McGinnis over bothun at holder
http://www.deadrobot.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/bothans.jpg
Lol
yeah bithum has been consistent at holding. Mcginnis hands might not have the dexterity for quick ball placement. /S
Looks like overall there will be some young players that will get some good playing time.
Mbanasaurus..keep on grinding son
This offensive line Finna be beasts!
Basquine must have really impressed to jump past all of those schollie WRs.
I think the biggest impression was made on BM. I think he got his trust.
I mean Baxter did the same thing last season so it’s no shocker to me really. I just want miller to secure that final spot.
Im a Big AD fan as well.
He just needs that first TD to get the monkey off his back. I think he’s going to straight Moss someone this first game.
seconded. AD will be a beast, my pick for breakout candidate in 2016
Mine is Dahu
I like Dahu as well… very much. He has the route running and finesse. I think his issue is consistency. Gotta catch the ball. Miller seems to have both figured out.
Miller faster than Mead, right?
As long as he can get open and catch the ball, I’d prefer to have the speedier guy out there. Westbrook, Baxter, and Andrews are all more possession type guys to me (though Westbrook does have some speed). Be nice to have a deep threat.
Westbrook is probably the fastest guy out there, but his hands better improve drastically from last year.
No Arthur McGinnis?
I was wondering the same thing, you would think he would be up there somewhere.
I think Obo’s first sack of the season may send me over the top! That dude is so jacked and when he crushes little GW I’m going to get lit lol
What happened to the DL Overton?
must not be meeting expectations (work, attitude or school).
That’s not good. I really thought with the wrestling background he would develope into a beast. I hope he figures it out. Next man up!!!!!
Nah, he’s just not going to overtake Romar and Wade at this point. He’ll get playing time though.
most of the D has three deep listed except here> Something must be amiss
Makes it look possible to start right away to a recruit.. it is a mind game for Mr Wilson lol
Ok, that is awesome! The kid showed some flash last year.
Romar and Wade have a ton of experience.
D-line still worries me. For a 3-4, we’re still far too undersized on the ends. REALLY wish Lampkin would’ve blown up during camp. Kid’s tailormade for this defense.
If Gallimore can make it to be a starter ( and it sounds like hes not too far off ) then we’re over 300 lbs across the DL. Thats anything but undersized.
Yeah I actually looked at this and thought the exact opposite. The smallest guy is 265, everyone else is 275+
But with a 3/4 you really need your end positions at 285 minimum, IMO.
I think the difference in 275 and 285 if you are athletic is pretty negligible. Especially in our case, because Ward and Roberts are very athletic.
Fully expect A-Rob to be a beast this season… Gotta live up to the name right?
I believe we’ll be rotating those big boys enough for him to get valuable playing time.
Seeing it on paper,
Our Oline is young
Which is a good thing, and a bad thing (sometimes)
Got to the playoffs with 3/5 of them.
I say it’s a good thing. Future is bright
I thought the same thing. Only the center position has an upperclassman on the two deep. And a lot of talent in the 2017 and 2018 classes.
Surprised to see Seibert not holding and snapping. He’s doing everything else.
I heard he might be Orlando Brown’s backup at LT if needed.
5 true freshman on defensive depth chart
We have so much young talent Im just surprised to not see half of SoonerSquad 17 not on the depth chart!
They will be this time next year.
Reload. Got to have 3 or more guys step up in every class.
I like that 2 are CBs with the likely loss of both starters
does anyone like Eddie Rado? Seems like a total douche to me
don’t know him personally, get info from his twit though
yeah I don’t know him either he just comes across as kind of a jerk on twitter. He tweeted out the depth chart and then tweeted out that he didn’t want anyone to tweet him with thoughts on it. Why is he even a Sooners writer if he doesn’t want to hear from fans?
or on twitter
Where’s Lampkin?
injury
LB A. McGuinnis injured, too?
Good question. I do not know… Paging @KJ1123
They’re not injured, they’re just not good enough to get in the two deep yet. I dont see Arthur ever getting in the two deep, just my opinion.
you know anything about Overton?
He’s fine, still getting reps….but idk it seems like everyone is thinking he should be the starter or something, just because he isnt listed doesn’t mean he’s not playing or getting playing time.
That’s good, I thought his edge was his quickness off the snap. I hope his grades are good.
I haven’t heard that he was having any academic issues.
well I think the reasoning was that they feel ok about putting 3 players on the list at DE so why didn’t they include him at #3 at DT..good to know he’s healthy
We’re deeper at DE as well.
Do you think Arthur will be eventually moved to DE or just give depth and #’s at LB?
I dont think he will get moved, more dpeth like you mentioned, I think come next year (depending on how we finish in recruiting) he may get buried in the depth chart.
Hope he sees that possibility and takes it as motivation to excel.
I hope so, I think kids underestimate the process and what it takes to succeed coming in. I’m hoping he proves me wrong, I just think we are recruiting really well at LB so he needs to really get to work.
Do you look for any of the ones buried on the depth chart to move on? I like to see those that are move out and free up schollys.
Classic Urban Meyer.
https://twitter.com/Landgrant33/status/770288999755722757
to be fair, does anyone even know what the suspension was for? He may have a legitimate gripe
I believe it was from breaking a rule of student conduct within the university.
that could be a lot of things though
Two words. Aaron Hernandez!
Exactly. Meyer protects his guys to a fault, worse than most other coaches. He’s a slimeball.
“Art Briles aint got nothing on me”–Urban Meyer
Other than Baker Mayfield, who do you all think is the one player we can least afford to lose?
knock on wood of course
Bobby Boucher
Orlando Brown
Jordan Evans. LBs are weak as it is. Losing him would be trouble.
Jordan Evans or Jordan Thomas
Could it be Siebert??
Agree
Crazy enough, I bet he’s high up on the list
I didn’t see this before I typed mine but absolutely he is high on the list!
Mark Andrews//Jordan Evans
Parker or Brown
Orlando Brown and Jordan Thomas come to mind. Maybe Jordan Evans too.
How about Austin Seibert since he is our starting Punter, Field Goal Kicker, and Kick Off guy? l can remember a couple sketchy kickers a few years back that made games way to interesting sometimes!
The guy on the O-Line that I don’t know much about is Quinn Mittermeier who’s backing up the immovable Orlando Brown. How big of a fall off is it if Mittermeier has to come in for Brown?
Let’s not find out.
No injuries!
I’m all for that.
Alot.
I think you might see Samia move over there and Evans come in at RT if that happens.
That makes sense, especially with the importance of that LT position.
Que Overton…
Porque No?
Arthur McGinnis… Interesting.
They only listed 2 DT’s, could he be the third?
Que is one of my favorites. Was most excited to see his progression out of the d linemen.
He had playing time last year where it was evident that he had a first step like nobody else. Interesting indeed.
thought maybe you’d have more insight on that than us
K likes him some Overton.
yep
He’ll play. He’s a good player just young and needs to continue to show the coaches that he has the maturity. I expect to see him this year even though he isn’t listed.
This is not going to be a popular opinion, but I just don’t see the talent here to compete for #8 this year. It could happen of course. We weren’t the most talented team in 2000 either.
Our LB group, OL, and WRs are probably all out of the top 5 in CFB.
I’m thinking this is a 3 or so loss year.
I’m saving this message to hopefully rub in your face later
I’ll be the happiest person to be wrong, so please do!
I was looking for a … somewhere in those comments. lol
Certainly hope you’re wrong, and those kids are all coached up this year.
I see what you did there
Blaspheme!
Without Crimson glasses,
I HATE our schedule…
I hate the byes, I hate Thursday game, I hate the opener Houston game, I hate the TCU trap game.
But, Sooner magic lives in Baker. He’s legit.
We have arguably the top Qb in cfb. That goes a long way to winning games.
We have best rb tandem.
Like every year every team has question marks. I would take knowing we have a Qb,rbs, and a secondary and Q’s at Oline, wr, and pass rush over some Q’s that most of cfb has…
Believe brotha.
We are about to have another great season.
I’m liking that sunshine! Especially leading up to the opening game.
Boomer Sooner!
Baker has TCU marked on his schedule. Let me just say he’s pissed off.
Haha, love that you started with them off and put them right back on halfway through! I hope you’re right. I have all the hope in the world, just not a ton of faith yet.
The key to the year on offense will be, when Baker buys time setting up the posibility of a special play, the receivers will need to “be there”. The team needs to know that those guys will be difference makers.
Who made this schedule? They should have opened with LM. Then Houston, then do like the SEC and throw in a Big 12 game at Kansas, then Ohio St, TCU, Texas.
I don’t see us as a 3 loss team, but I’m not sure I see a NC team either. Not enough improvement on the lines over last year, where we got killed against the really good teams. Probably be a downfall again this year. And with the tougher schedule, and some “dangerous” road games at TT and WVU, I’m predicting a 1 loss regular season. But I’d be pretty shocked if we stayed healthy and lost 3 in the regular season.
We made the playoff last year with a terrible oline and with a bunch of 1st year coaches on the team. I know for a fact that this team has the DESIRE & WILL to prove everyone wrong this year.
We could have a 3 loss season or we could win it all. We have the talent and desire. At this point, so much depends on injuries and off-field situations, coin flips, field position and simply the way the ball bounces.
That’s part of the problem imo. That senior leadership of Shep, Striker, Darlington is all gone. We really don’t know yet what their mental makeup will be.
I know I don’t like all the hype we’re getting.
Although there’s quite a bit of hype as a team, about the only individual getting national acclaim is Mayfield. Hopefully that will be some added motivation, especially on D to prove themselves, while still keeping the team first mentality.
I’ll be honest, part of my prediction is based on the fact that it’s really really hard to make the playoff, go through the year healthy, etc. A ton of things all have to go right.
This is the most competitive CFB has probably ever been. It’s not easy.
It’s hard to argue your opinion talent wise. I have been pleasantly surprized at times as young players mature physically to see what becomes of them. Im hoping with certain players in leadership roles that this team is one of those teams that grows up together and competes on a very high scale.
I love Darlington but the guy was undersized and got handled against the big boys. I loved Striker but OU is bigger and possibly faster at OLB. Now on offense , this Air Raid offense is setup to spread the ball around to all the WR’s. Last year OU was to dependant on Shep and teams could easily gameplan to stop Shep which we saw in the Clemson game.
Getting the calls for the OL right is a big deal. His leadership was key for the line. I hope someone fills those shoes.
In my opinion, the reason we were so dependent on Shep was that no one else was ready to step up and demand the ball. We didn’t have any other choice. Someone is going to have to be that guy. But no one is going to be what Shep was. So that’s a downgrade imo.
OU doesnt need a ” go to WR ” in this Air raid offense. You think Texas Tech & Okie St have a go to WR? No but they always have a top 5 offense every year.
Not sure where you’re getting that, but it’s very much incorrect.
Tech has had Crabtree, Grant, Amaro, etc. OSU had good offenses only when they had dominant WR like Blackman. Baylor has had 3 or 4 dominant Wr’s. TCU had a go to Wr for the last few years, etc.
Hardy at ECU for Lincoln Riley broke Broyle’s all time receptions record. Having a go-to WR is critical for any team that wants to win on third down and make big plays.
Getting the calls for the OL right is a big deal. His leadership was key for the line. I hope someone fills those shoes.
In my opinion, the reason we were so dependent on Shep was that no one else was ready to step up and demand the ball. We didn’t have any other choice. Someone is going to have to be that guy. But no one is going to be what Shep was. So that’s a downgrade imo.
I agree and disagree with you. I agree we don’t likely have the talent on D we need to win the NC.
But make no mistake, that 2000 team had a great deal of talent, especially on D where it was loaded with NFL players. Being there, in person, OU had better talent all around than Florida State. About the only position I’d have given the nod to FSU was the WR depth. That’s it.
I’ll defer to you on that one. I was about 15 at the time, lol. I think of that team synonymous with Rocky. Refused to lose despite not always being the best.
I’ll take the under on the 3 losses.
WRs just need to catch the easy ones, make a play when the ball is in the air a couple of times a game nothing more. OL, RBs and Baker are the offense. Ogo and C Walker will have big years like move in the 1st RD of the NFL draft years. If A Thomas can continue as he did the last half of the year the secondary will be hard to beat deep and will get punished on short routes.. J Thomas is the only one that concerns me need his head in the game, every game.
No offense, but if you listen to fans around college football, there’s at least 150 players going in the first round of the draft next year.
True, but DL and edge rushers go early.. OFC they have to be talented.
True, but DL and edge rushers go early.. OFC they have to be talented.
WRs just need to catch the easy ones, make a play when the ball is in the air a couple of times a game nothing more. OL, RBs and Baker are the offense. Ogo and C Walker will have big years like move in the 1st RD of the NFL draft years. If A Thomas can continue as he did the last half of the year the secondary will be hard to beat deep and will get punished on short routes.. J Thomas is the only one that concerns me need his head in the game, every game.
I have no idea if we can do #8 this year or not. Lots of things have to come together, with a bit of luck tossed in too. But I just enjoy the whole process of the season and take joy in watching the team grow and get better. If they can go the whole way and win the Big Kahuna then awesome. If not, then I still had a lot of fun as a fan anyway.
Well, are you saying we aren’t going average 45 points? If we do that, this is an 11-1 team and should have a spot in the playoff. After that anything can happen. This my goal for the team.
*GASP* You shut your dirty mouth!
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Weekly Presser post up
Brooks returning kicks along with Mixon, speed kills.
Ruben Hunter ? ?
He’s been Jordans backup since spring.
Stoops brothers have always shown they value trust in being assignment sound over athleticism/potential.
can’t wait for the open post and the Town Hall tonight!
In case it wasn’t posted
http://www.soonersports.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?&id=1741077&catid=0&KEY=&DB_OEM_ID=31000
thx
With players the quality of Lampkin, Overton and McGuinnis not starting or even making the 2-deep, I’m starting to cringe in pain for the opponents.
Unless seniors were given an edge simply for being seniors.
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https://twitter.com/Joseph_Duarte/status/770297710314332161
Jordan posted that in the Presser thread, but that is a pretty significant loss for them. Supposed to be their best WR
That’s a big deal. I remember him being a big time recruit.
I have a feeling Mixon will be running some punts back for TD’s this year and help resurrect our special teams play!
That would be nice! Love Shep but he was downgrade over the prior years at punt return. Or he was being coached poorly, some of both maybe.
Special teams changes the game…kinda like both Clemson games in the playoffs. Hope the coaches were watching. He would be great back there!
I blame the entire ’04 National Championship loss on Bradley’s fumbled punt return. We were in control until then.
sooooo true! I’ve said that so many times. That muffed return completely changed the game. We fell apart after that.
For sure, but we can’t be afraid to return punts though, any more than being afraid to throw the ball after seeing all of those TK pick 6’s.
for reals
Outside of the RBs, this is not a very impressive roster at all. OU needs to win a championship to further boost recruiting so that the roster can be loaded two deep with 4 and 5 star players, like at Ohio State, Bama, Florida State, etc. Nonetheless, there’s still hope for #8 this year, heck Oregon made it to the championship with mostly 3 star players
I get your point but you should also feel optimistic with this roster. Good experience, depth and better size than in years past. We also don’t have Josh Heuple’s system anymore that crippled our Wide outs. There is a great opportunity for this squad! Not to mention this season hasn’t started and we already have a loaded 2017 class!
We’re one Malik Jefferson and a couple OL away from being close to those others. The “Fire Kish” era is showing right now.
It’s a better roster than we had last year…
You think so? I’d say we potentially downgraded at WR, LB, DE, one CB, and C. Not sure where where if anywhere we got better, but we’re gonna find out soon.
to play devil’s advocate, you could argue that we “potentially” upgraded in each of those positions as well. Also, retaining stars in Perine, Mixon, Baker almost has to be considered an upgrade if only because they are a year older and one year down in Riley’s system, right?
I guess you can say that Perine, Mixon, etc. will be better.
I’m not sure how you can say Mayfield could be an upgrade, he can’t play much better than he did last year.
For the rest of them, I’m gonna say no. Striker, Tapper, Sanchez, Darlington, Shep, Bond, and Alexander would all be starting again this year if they were back.
Mayfield couldn’t play better, ummm. There is no such thing as a perfect QB. Even the best have to bust their ass to get better and they make mistakes all the time. Bake has only played a year and a half. Trust me, he can get a lot better just like the others. Don’t get me wrong, I love Bake as our QB but everyone can play better.
I said much better. Everyone can always play better if you want to get that technical. It will be very hard for Mayfield to put up a similar performance this year without Shep. Just my opinion.
…damned discus..
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That is an interesting way to put it and you are probably correct in re: to them being starters this year. I suppose the best I could argue is that, though they would start, should they? We were the 54th(?) best (or worst) team in run defense last year. I am not putting all the blame on those players, but given the number of reps they each took, they certainly shoulder a good deal of blame. Now whether we improve on that this year remains to be seen. One can not judge the value of “another year older/another year in system,another year to physically and mentally develop” until you see it on the field. I would say for some it makes all the difference in the world, for some it makes no difference. Let’s hope for our sake it is the former. Honestly would rather Walker on the field than Tapper. We swap out a 225 pound ILB for a 242 lb’r. A 225 pound OLB for a 245 lb’r.
As for WR’s I think it is fair to assume Andrews will benefit individually from the absence of Shep. Not saying he will be a 1000 yd receiver but he will be huge. We do need people to make plays here though, without a doubt.
In all there seems to be plenty to be optimistic about. The many unknowns is concerning. The tough schedule is..tough. Cannot wait to see our boys play!
Agree with everything you said. Hard to know until they get on the field. My whole point is that there are positions on this team where we are still pretty weak and not elite.
Across the board, we still do not have the raw talent of teams like Bama and tOSU, i agree. That being said, I think we have the team to beat both of them. An elite QB and good system can cover up a lot of deficiencies elsewhere. Think Oregon 2014. Hopefully we get the opportunity to prove that!
Across the board I think we’re better at WR. Mayfield will spread the ball more. Also, Alexander was assignment sound but undersized. We’ve got better athletes. Just less experience.
So you think the Wr’s that were here got a lot better? Cause all those guys were here last year.
Does every WR on all teams go to the NFL? No, only a select few make it. That said, we have a solid group. Having year 2 will help them be more confident in their routes which will make them play faster.
I hope you’re right.
If a WR come in as a Fr and starts, then he’s just special and will play on Sundays. Stills, Shep are to that come to mind. Not many around that can do that. Heck, it took AD till UT game to start. My point is the depth is getting better in a much better system. I think they will play much faster than a year ago. Again, I’m not saying they are NFL guys, but good WRs.
Yeah I see what you’re saying. What I’m saying is that I think the position has been downgraded since last year. The fact that none of them completely blew the others away tells me that they are inconsistent. Doesn’t matter what system you’re in, talent is talent.
This is all just prediction though, we’ll see how they perform on the field. If they come out and dominate, I’ll be thrilled.
Mayfield will be more inclined tos spread the ball around. We don’t have anyone the caliber of Shepard. We do have much better depth though. Especially with Andrews taking on a bigger role.
Why better depth when they were all here last year?
Because guys like Andrews, Baxter, Miller etc have all had another year in the system. Mayfield had to lean hard on Shep because those guys were all so green.
Mead better catch the ball like he did against Clemson.
Maybe a small downgrade at center mentally, but certainly not physically.
I can tell you for sure that we are as deep as we have been, with quality depth, since the early 2000s.
I really wanted Wren to start at Center. Alvarez got smacked around alot last year.
Well Wren was here last year too. So if he couldn’t beat out Alvarez last year, he had an uphill battle this year as well.
Hunch – Wren starts or plays most of the snaps against ULM.
First impression, good depth everywhere. Have backups at most position on the Oline not just a couple of utility guys. And size at DE 275-300. Wow. Then the added size at LB.
Gallimore and Overton need to be taking reps away from lighter guys. If they can be assignment sound the talent gap isn’t even close between these guys and guys like Dimon.
Well one thing you have made very clear is that you are not a Dimon fan at all. I thought he played well last year, but don’t disagree that the upside of someone like Gallimore I would really like to see on the field.
Agree. I’ve always been a Dimon fan. Guys are bigger and maybe blessed with more pure athleticism but he’s a good blend plus heart. Nobody outworks him and he’s assignment sound.
Obviously, the coaches are too.
HAHA, yes he has.
Dimon does well against Big 12 offenses. He’s actually a great fit for that. He just gets abused against bigger more physical teams. Basically, the type of teams we’d have to beat in the CFP.
Exactly RCD212. And that playoff game was even worse because with Walker out, we had no depth. Ward is also undersized vs. the elites. I hope Gallimore is ready to go, especially vs. Ohio State.
Add Overton to that list as well.
I actually agree with you
Move the period from the end of “guys” to the end of “sound” and I agree 100%.
I’m not exactly sold on the depth at LT. Looks to be quite a bit of a drop off in talent and size between Brown and Mittermeier.
Really looking forward to seeing Caleb Kelly show what he can do. There’s a good possibility he’ll be the start of an impressive line of LB’s for OU considering those coming in. Be nice to elevate the way OUr defense is viewed across the country. Talent coupled with execution is the solution.
I still wish we could find some option at punter or at least kickoff, I feel like that would get exhausting to kick everything and still be clutch if we need a game winning field goal…Also thought Abdul Adams would get the Punt Return job for more experience but then again, if we just fair catch it every time it doesn’t matter.
Let’s hope Coach Stoops has his foot on the throttle all year, including on punt returns. The offense won’t be a problem, but special teams play certainly can make the difference when facing the tough teams.
True Ura. I’m hoping that the assertiveness/activity on returns increases because it looked like a drill performed at half-speed. We never really moved. Dabs took full advantage of us standing around on punt return to run that fake punt/pass to the nose tackle to grab momentum in that game.
Brooks and Mixon back on kickoff… Seriously, who do you kick to?
I think Brooks will get more than his share to take a kick all the way as teams will be more inclined to fear Mixon’s potential. And Brooks seems perfectly suited for the task.
Hoping Johnson is only on the field as a nickel back. He doesn’t need to be playing OLB.
It’s based on what set the offense is in. Number of Wr’s will dictate whether it’s him or Doucet. He’s a decent edge rush guy though.
Get ready for it. He has already said Mike wants him playing closer to the LoS and I’ve read that he’s the new Striker blah, blah, blah….
That’s a terrible idea. Striker was a liability except for in obvious passing downs. Johnson does have better coverage skills than striker, but I question whether he’ll be as effective as a pass rusher. If he’s expected to set the edge he’s going to get turned inside out.
Then may be you need to get Mike Stoops on the phone and let him know your analysis of Johnson. Don’t wait!
Thanks for your input. It’s insight like this that really makes this board interesting.
What I don’t do is hammer a player. If Johnson is in the game, he will be covering the majority of the time but he just may be closer to the line in this assignment. That said, he could do press or blitz. What I do like about Johnson is he is a very good tackler.
I was very impressed with how Johnson tackled in open space. I just don’t like the idea of him setting the edge.
He won’t in most situations unless it just happens to be a run play. We will still have an OLB on the field which will help.
Of course he wont pressure like Striker and of course he will cover better.
Where are these guys you want that can get 10+ sacks and cover a slot guy?
I just want the right guy in there for the right moment. Striker was on the field too often tbh.
I would assume that’s exactly what they will do. Johnson will play in the more 3-3-5 style sets and Doucet/Kelly will play in the 3-4-4.
I’m not disagreeing. I hope that’s what happens.
That is what happened last year. When Johnson was the NB, the LB opposite of Striker (forgot his name) would come out.
It was Bond. Striker should’ve been a situational player rather than an every down player imo. If that’s what they’re doing with Johnson, that’s great.
Most likely that is what they are doing, but giving Johnson some more ability to do more than just cover. He may surprise you setting the edge when he has to. He was a master at blowing through WR screen blocks and busting up plays like that. Extremely good positioning himself, shedding blocks, and making a solid tackle. I know its different getting closer to interior but I like utilizing his skill set for more than just a slot cover guy.
Given the love for WR screens in our conference, Johnson is very useful against those teams.
I was really impressed with him last season. I really look forward to seeing if he’s improved his game even more this year.
That is what happened last year. When Johnson was the NB, the LB opposite of Striker (forgot his name) would come out.
In Tuscaloosa or Columbus.
Um, no not even there and either way we run with what we have.
Did you see what Tuscaloosa had against Clemson?
That’s insane he is tiny. I suppose it’ll be effective against Big 12 opponents excluded Texas and Iowa st, K St. But a liability v A Clemson, Houston, OSU.
Oh boy, can’t wait to see Mighty Joe Mixon in the return game. Going to see some smoke….folks left grasping at air…
I like that, he’s not Little Joe, he’s Mighty Joe!
To me, Mixon in the open field, is no Little Joe or Demarco.
Then in your opinion, who does he remind you of?
I just don’t think it’s wise. He is not that shifty nor does he have Brooks or Ross speed. But with that said, reminds me of Kniles Davis of the Chiefs. On returns that’ll be good enough. But injury factor is my real concern. You don’t see J Charles back on returns.
Jamal Charles doesn’t have Perine starting beside him. Mixon is going to blow you away this year. Wait and see my friend.
I agree with you. Mixon is more shifty than some give him credit for. Like you, I’m expecting him to surprise with his productivity in the return game.
He broke the TTech linebacker’s ankles on a touchdown last season. Made the guy look silly. There is literally no comparison when it comes the shiftiness/moves between Ross and Mixon. The only thing Ross has or had over Mixon is top end speed, IMO.
Did Jamal Charles return kicks at UT? It seems like I recall him returning some?
I think MIxon could take Ross in the 40 yr dash but would lose to him in the 100.
Mixon seems to have a MUCH more powerful lower body. When he gets going I predict defenders will have a hard time bringing him down.
Interesting that we heard so much about Basquine and Mykel Jones during camp but neither one of these two guys managed to pass Baxter, whom we heard nothing about at all?
Seems like good news that Baxter has raised his game.
Typically not going to hear a whole lot about the guys that were pretty much locked in already unless they aren’t doing well. Everything written on Baxter has had him locked in as a starter all off season. I take this to mean he is solid. Basquine will see the field though.
BM has praised Basquine all spring.
I don’t see any reason why Baxter would’ve been “locked in” IMO.
That’s just what I’ve read all off season. Not saying he should or shouldn’t, but him, Andrews, and Dede have been listed as the 3 with the 4th spot open.
They will all play a lot of snaps anyway I think.
Baxter is a great story, I think most of us really pull for a guy like this to succeed. He has shown flashes of talent at times.
I wouldnt be concerned , everybody will get catches this year.
Sometimes I think the proven guys aren’t thought of when people ask “Who has stood out?” Baxter played quite a bit last year, so he’s not going to surprise people as much as guys that might not have played yet.
Agreed, and Baxter made some pretty big catches last year. Sure handed and with another year in the system one would imagine he’ll be even better this year when it comes to overall production.
Thought (may be WAY off base) – Could Alvarez be starting at C due to the first opponent and their tendency to stunt, twist, etc. and BB wants the more athletic/game experienced guy in for that game and plans to work Wren as starter after that??
Game experience, Wren has a tendancy to get a little overly excited.
That’s what I’m getting at. That and he’s more athletic. You think this is potentially the direction?
I don’t think they are too off as far as athleticism other than I think Alvarez runs better. I think BB trusts Alvarez because he’s been in bigger games and mentally will not let the pressure get to him.
I’m calling it then – Alvarez starts against UH, Wren against ULM. Wren takes it and runs with it.
Ruben Hunter backing up J. Evans at ILB is new to me.
My guess is Bolton would come in first for either of the 2 starts.
Bolton is out for the UH game.
I know, just saying depth chart wise. He’s listed behind Tay and Hunter is listed behind Jordan. I assume (when healthy) he comes in first for either of them.
I agree.
It might be sending a message to guys like JMT and Author McGinnis . Who i thought looked good in the spring was the 6’5″ kid Rodriguez. Hunter has played a lot on special teams tho
He’s been Jordans backup since the first day of spring practice.
Love seeing 2 big WR starting. We have lacked tall, impact WR for basically the entire stoops era. Its worked out for us regardless, but i think it can only make us better.
i feel like Mann was a filler commit. no disrespect to the young man.
isnt mann a DE?
yes, but i dont think he will ever take the field with meaningful snaps
i feel like Mann was a filler commit. no disrespect to the young man.
I don’t recall his height but I feel like Malcom Kelly was a pretty tall receiver… 6’4ish, maybe?
I do get your point though…. I’ve been dying for more tall playmaker receivers. I really wanted to see DGB for one season.
Wow, Overton and Lampkin didn’t even make the depth chart. I thought we would at least see Overton on there.
I was surprised to see Bledsoe over Lampkin,Campbell and Mann also
Stoops in his presser said Overton would be playing. There was no mention of Lampkin.
Especially w Romar out. Gallimore and Q will be the next guys in.
Man I hope so. Looking at that depth chart, if Walker gets injured, which he’s prone to do, we might be left with the smallest Dline in college football.
Thought Romar would be good to go against Houston.
He’s ‘available’ but would expect they would rest him unless necessary but we’ll see.
We haven’t been hearing much about Lampkin. I’d imagine Gallimore and Overton will play based on what we’ve been hearing.
Arthur McGinnis? Thought Kish said he’s been making strides. Must have been way back on the depth chart
K and some of the other mods have said that McGinnis is a little stiff at LB. Also, he’s learning this position since he played with his hand in the dirt in HS. What I’m taking from Kish is McGinnis has improved a lot from where he was and that may not be that good. The good thing is, he’s improving and putting in the work.
this is your daily reminder not to take everything the coaches say the the local media “reports” at face value 🙂
From what I remember about Kish’s remarks were he showed the most improvement of any oh the LB’s. This type statement doesn’t always mean he’s the best at his position.
Seeing that Fr. next to the backup QB is a little sketchy. Obviously this season rides on Baker staying healthy through the campaign.
A true Fr starting is sketchy. A Fr QB can be really scary! If the reports out of camp are not being trumped up, he is doing very well.
Thoughts ? What if they want a NB in the game and Will Johnson is unavailable for whatever reason ? Does C Sylvie, P McKinney, A Stephens or one of the back up S or CBs come in ?
My guess would be Haughton or PJ… Or McKinney.
I figured Sylvie would be since he was in spring but no mention of him in the depth chart or presser.
It would be Haughton
Haughton backs up Thomas and Sylvie backs up Johnson as a NB.
Just reading Mixon’s name as a KR makes me think of demarco getiing injured, not a fan of star players returning kicks. Should be a specialist type thing IMO…also trying not to read to into the DL chart. i would be shocked if some of the younger guys like gallimore and Overton arent playing a lot sooner than later
Dimon beats out Gallimore? Dimon is not disruptive and does not demand doubles…Not happy. Where’s Q?
Doesn’t surprise me Dimon is higher on the depth chart as a senior. However, as Gallimore proves himself he should be taking reps from Dimon.
Can’t help but look towards next year looking at the depth chart. Good news – the entire OL should be returning. Bad news – losing 4 across the DL most likely and potentially losing the entire secondary along with Jordan Evans at ILB. Yikes.
Orlando Brown probably leaves
Double yikes
Depends on how high the NFL scouts have him.
Will Johnson as outside linebacker?
Believe he was listed as that for when they are in their Nickel defense, which will bring Doucet or Kelly off of the field and he will replace them to cover an extra receiver.
So, Mixon/Brooks an upgrade over Ross? I would tend to think so but this is only like my 3rd post…
Big upgrade IMO.
With a hole and grass in front, no. Through some traffic? yes.
upgrade, IMO
Yeah especially over last year where it seemed Ross lost all interest. Although I did hear Darlington on the radio today, and he mentioned that the 2014 kickoff team had some quality blockers especially ripkowski.
Don’t like Mixon back there on returns. Perine has been injured in both years. Mixon does not have to be put in a position where he’s more likely to get hurt. I hope I am mistaken.
I agree. Makes me wince just thinking about it.
Ross was the best as long as he didn’t have to move left or right.
I think most on this board would be happy with a consistent, healthy BM, week-in, week-out throughout the season. Everything else will work itself out.
I would sure be happy with a consistent and healthy BM day in and day out.
Me too.
I almost feel sorry for any DB’s the opposing teams put on kickoff trying to stop Mixon with a full head of steam.
With Rodney’s injury I’m a little less supportive of Mixon back there but WTF give the playmaker the rock…. we don’t even know if he’ll be around this time next year.
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