CFP Rankings | Open Thread
Posted on: December 1, 2015
CFP Rankings | Open Thread
Posted on: December 1, 2015
CFP Rankings | Open Thread
Posted on: December 1, 2015
The Football Brainiacs
University of Oklahoma Edition
CFP Rankings | Open Thread
Posted on: December 1, 2015
OU 2025 Schedule
- Aug 30th vs ILST
- Sep 6th vs MICH
- Sep 13th @ TEM
- Sep 20th vs AUB
- Oct 4th vs KENT
- Oct 11th vs TEX
- Oct 18th @ SC
- Oct 25th vs MISS
- Nov 1st @ TENN
- Nov 15th @ ALA
- Nov 22nd vs MIZ
- Nov 29th vs LSU
293 Comments
OU might move to #2 but in the end will get screwed and be at #4
I agree about the eventual #4. I still think tonight could be #1 so they show HOW important the conference champ is.
I don’t think so. I think we’ll be anywhere from #1-3 in the final poll, depending upon what Bama and Clem do (or don’t do) this weekend. I’d be surprised if Mich St, who I think wins, will be higher than #4, besides, the Big 10 has like 15 representatives on the 13 person committee. I doubt they want the Big 10 to play Bama in the first round. They’d rather play Clem, imo
I think we stick at 3 tonight. Honestly, i want to be #4. Much rather face clemson in round 1 than bama.
I would much rather face Bama. Their offense is very one dimensional. Stop Henry stop Bama. Deshaun Watson is a dual threat and a DCs nightmare
AND, if they lose a DC and/or OC, that wouldn’t hurt. ONly thing I don’t like is that they’d put so much time into game planning against the first team, that being us.
Im more worried about scoring on bama’s D. I think we can hold clemson down.
With Mixon, Flowers, And Perine all catching the ball well, we can find match up problems and go tempo so Saban can’t substitute. Spread up tempo offense gives him hell.
Wouldn’t be suprised if we are # 1.
I’d be surprised. Happy, but surprised. I think #2 or #3 and wouldn’t be surprised at #2 for sure
I don’t know about this week, but I don’t see us being any lower than 3 when it’s all said and done. The Committee seems to be focusing on two things. Winning your conference and looking impressive. Nobody has looked more impressive than OU, and to a lesser extent, at times, Bama. We won our conference.
SoonerfanTU, I agree they are focused on conference champion but I don’t see them focusing on who looks impressive. From my perspective, they often make a conscious effort to avoid it. If they were focused on who’s impressive, the Big10 schools wouldn’t be 4, 5, and 6. UNC would be ranked higher in every poll this season. OU and Baylor would have been higher for the first few CFP polls. Ohio State and Iowa would have never been in the top 4.
When asked about these programs, the committee usually makes some reference to ‘body of work’ rather than how good or bad they look. They will occasionally talk about how well a team is playing NOW but only when it supports their poll. There was a time when Baylor looked as good as anyone in the country and I don’t remember the committee talking about it. I have no personal thoughts or feelings on UNC but I can’t help but feel the committee left them just far enough outside where they can justify keeping them out of the CFP if they win their conference.
At the end of the day, most of the committee are football fans. They are fans of certain styles, conferences, and universities. There is a natural agenda. Not in a sinister way. I don’t believe the committee is conspiratorial… just human nature by a committee (I feel) doesn’t really represent the whole of CFB.
What time do they come out?
6:00
ESPN 6:00PM CT tonight – CFB updated rankings.
My picks:
1 – Clemson
2 – OU
3 – Bama
4 – Iowa
5 – Mich St
That sounds about right.
This is what I’ve been thinking since OU won. Wouldn’t surprise me to see them at #1 just because Clemson’s win wasn’t that convincing, but #2 is where I expect to see them. They’ll take a hit after next weekend, but I think the committee wants to see OU, Bama, Clemson and a B1G team.
The stupid thing will come on while I am driving. They will want to get them out so they can spend lots of time “what iffing.”
Ill be in Miami for NYE so im hopin’ for 4. I may be the only one, though.
There shouldn’t be any changes in the top four. It will be Clemson, Bama, OU and then Iowa.
There is no reason for the committee to change Iowa and MSU as that will take care of itself.
Most likely it will be MSU at 5. The rest of the ranking won’t matter unless Bama and/or Clemson lose.
If, one of those two lose then it will be interesting as the committee will have a battle keeping Stanford out of the playoffs assuming Stanford beats USC.
CFB Daily, Forrest Conoly is a tool..
Saw him today. Unbelievable how much he was hating on OU and the entire B12. What a moron.
Joining Mark May, Joey Galloway, Dicknuts Finebaum, Desmond Howard etc.
Don’t listen to Finebaum, but he’s been vouching for OU the past 3 weeks.
Begrudgingly. He said OU was old news before we played Tennessee, like we had no shot whatsoever, then comes out with an OU hat on when we won. He still insisted Baylor was going to win the B12 until we beat them. He has held out on the Sooners until it was absolutely clear he couldn’t. The guy is an idiot.
That’s his style though, he knows Stoops has made him look like a douchebag for too many years, so now he bashes them and then bends over when they make him look like a fool. It’s his bread and butter.
Dude, thanks alot for that visual of Finebaum bending over reindeer style. Way too early for that type of darkness! Lol.
FSU guy. Most likely doesn’t like Stoops for kicking his school’s ass 3 times.
Whatever the rankings, I hope we face Bama in the Cotton Bowl. Beating them there would expel a lot of demons and shut Nick Saban the “f” up..
I think OU will actually jump to #1 tonight based on the 3 game run. The CFP committee will then move them back one or two spots next week due to the CCG. Just hoping for a Clemson loss, and then Stanford gets in over Ohio State.
I’d almost rather that Alabama became irrelevant in the other game and that we face whoever beats them- that way, they’re not even #2 and most definitely on the outside looking in.
Props on the Jessie Spano break down GIF. Excellent choice.
1. OU
2. Clemson
3. Alabama
4. Iowa
5. Michigan State
https://engscholar24.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/chris-farley-tommy-boy.jpg
“There’s a child inside us all”?
Isn’t Stoops 3 an 0 against Ellabama ? Why is this never brought up ? We have a team 3x better than the one that beat their ass in the Sugar Bowl.
My prediction / guess
1 Clemson / 2 OU / 3 Bama / 4 Iowa / 5 Michigan State / 6 North Carolina
This allows the easiest justification for North Carolina and Michigan State to move in if they win their respective conference championship games
I want to say we move up.
I also want to say I’m banging Jennifer Lawrence; in both cases I wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t happen.
Make me wrong, committee. Put OU at the top where they belong.
I’ve spent my whole day arguing with people about OU’s spot in the playoffs…”They haven’t played against a real QB”, or “They don’t have a conference championship game, so they don’t deserve to go”…nice try, morons. The fact is, there isn’t one QB in the $EC that is NFL caliber. J.W. Walsh could start for ANY SEC team right now, save for maybe Ole Miss. If OU don’t deserve to go because of that, then Bama can forget it. The other argument only surfaces when the discussion is about the Big 12. Nobody ever talked about Notre Dame’s chances to get in being less because they don’t play a CCG. Seems like OU has to fight on and off the field to get to where they deserve to be…But I still LOVE our chances!
SEC qb’s are garbage. Everyone knows it now too. Gotta give Cowherd credit at least for nailing that one.
Where do you live that you have to make this argument? Fayettevile? College Station?
I’m in New Orleans, married into an LSU family, and even these yahoos have recognized that OU, without a doubt, belongs amongst the top 4.
Columbus
Yeah, I was about to say until I read your post … OU-hatin’ places include but are not limited to: Alabama, Ohio, most of Texas, sections of Oklahoma, Missouri, Boulder, Miami, etc. Live in places like that and you’re putting a target on your forehead just for being an OU supporter: He who is not for you is against you. You’ll rarely get the benefit of the doubt.
Arkansas
Dak Prescott is better than JW Walsh
I’d say they’re at least even.
OT and don’t shoot the messenger, but some people here in SC are saying LR is one of their targets now. Anyone hearing anything like that back west?
only that his name will be thrown around
Where did I put my ammo… 🙂 I think it’s a bit early in LR’s career for HFC job. But what do I know?
OU only got to keep Leach 1 year too, but Leach was 39ish. Do not want to lose him, especially this soon, but it wouldn’t be a bad thing for him to go get HC experience and return to OU when Bob goes, which could be in the next 2-3 years, esp if he gets #8 and/or #9 this season and next and seals his OU legacy as one of the greatest at OU and in the cfb modern era.
When asked earlier this season, Bob sounded like he wanted to coach 10 more years and retire at 65.
Haven’t read that anywhere, and I’ve been keeping up with things. SC seems to want somebody with an SEC pedigree. Smart. The Georgia DC. Richt.
Haven’t read that anywhere, and I’ve been keeping up with things. SC seems to want somebody with an SEC pedigree. Smart. The Georgia DC. Richt.
Why not get Venables?
I could be wrong…it happen once before. I predict OU will be #1 and I say that based on them playing the best football in the country last week. We will know soon…!
Clemson, Alabama, Iowa, OU, Mich St, tOSU, Stanford———the top 7
Ou is 3rd
They need to clean house. Based on these rankings, OU’s SOS schedule is worse than Bama’s and/or they refuse to put a one loss team ahead of an undefeated one. Let’s join the ACC and play one ranked opponent every year.
OU’s SOS is worse than Bama’s.
Non conf: Wisconsin, Middle Tenn, ULM, Charleston Southern. Last 5 weeks: Miss State, CSU, Auburn, and Florida. Oops, don’t forget ‘bye.’
You can’t just throw out names. You have to look at the ranking systems. Agree or disagree, I don’t think there is a single SOS calculation out there that would put OU’s SOS above Bama’s.
Do I think OU has played more “good” teams, especially recently? Sure. But SOS rates/ranks the entire schedule, not just the best or worst teams on them.
SFTU, I gave the non conf teams played in order. The past 5 week schedule can be taken into acct.. that why they brought in a CFP panel, right? Ultimately, I think OU would have ended seeded 3 or 4, but the seeds are supposed to be done based on the previous week’s result.
Then why does EVERY SOS ranking out there have Bama’s as being higher? I’m just stating the facts. And the seeds are based on the season to date, not just the prior week’s results.
Because they overvalue the 4 win SEC teams.
Alabama has wins over #21 LSU and #25 Tennessee at home.
OU has wins over #11 TCU, #12 Baylor (road), #17 OSU (road) and #25 Tennessee (road).
If it is, it’s only because of the inherent the SEC is so good we beat up on ourselves utter bullshit. It’s baked into the cake.
How can the bama SOS be better if we beat 5 top 25 and they beat 1?
That’s unpossible.
It’s a mathematical formula. Unless there is bias written into the formula, it can’t “favor the SEC”.
If it is, it’s only because of the inherent the SEC is so good we beat up on ourselves utter bullshit. It’s baked into the cake.
How can the bama SOS be better if we beat 5 top 25 and they beat 1?
That’s unpossible.
How can we win by 35 at #11 team and win Big 12 and stay put? Garbage.
Big 10/SEC glasses.
It is BS. They freaking put O St 6 and then 11th. By living us at 3 it shows they don’t give a rip about what they did the week before. It has no relation to the current week.
kinda surprised OU is #3. I thought with such a quality win, we’d move to #2. So, looks like if Clem wins (no way FL c/beat bama–FL c/n/score), we play bama in Dallas
Nothing is carved in stone.
Those clowns could even drop us to 4 after weekend games. Bullshit deluxe.
they talk about IF NC beats Clem, will Stanford be in if beat USC.I don’t think Stanford beats USC. So who would be in then? OSU? Hope not.
Interesting. Thought we might jump Bama with that last performance.
Yep. Me too. I guess the stated rules don’t apply to members of the Big XII.
I definitely did and we should have. This committee is bullshit.
The unspoken rule with both the committee and most of the crowd at ESPiN is that teams from the B12 must defeat Bama in Tuscaloosa with your 3rd string players by a minimum of 35 points for the committee to be convinced you might be as good as the tide. But even then it’s not guaranteed.
The excuse they trotted out was, they don’t count the conference title until next week.
Which is code speak for: “If we counted it this week, OU might move up — we have to give everyone else a chance to move up first.”
Won’t be surprised one bit if Mich St puts it on iowa, they’ll jump to 3 and we’ll be 4th.
Which Team gives us the most favorable match up?
Clemson or Alabama
Alabama would likely be in Dallas, that would be good from a fan standpoint.
I’m okay with it. To play (and beat) Bama on the way to play Clemson for it all would be a great way to end the season. OU has everything it needs to win it all.
What was the explanation for OU remaining #3?
Wasn’t anything said about OU
I didn’t get to watch.
I mean I thought that would be an obvious question to ask Long, but nobody did.
I mean I thought that would be an obvious question to ask Long, but nobody did.
At the end of the day we just need to make the playoffs. Rankings don’t matter as long as you get in. But it is surprising that a blowout win didn’t move us up over two lackluster performances from teams above us.
It’s all engineering from here on out.
It’s all engineering from here on out.
As in “getting railroaded”?
As in getting William Fricked.
Was he a ‘Royal’?
He was Andrew Carnegie’s shady underling that did all his dirty work.
How does bama get a pass on playing a FCS team, but nobody else does. We should be at best #1 and lowest #2 compare strength of schedule to Bama and we come out ahead.
Why do people keep saying this? Bama’s SOS is better than ours, at least, according to the numbers it is. It’s one of the main reasons I don’t have a problem with not being ahead of them. Now Clemson on the other hand…..
Who have they played? Ole Miss and who? Did they just run though back to back to back teams ranked in the top 15 teams in the country?
I’m just looking at all the different SOS calculations from different sites. I haven’t found one yet that says OU’s SOS was tougher than Bama’s.
Yeah, but most of those are media driven. Having watched the games for yourself, do you agree?
SOS formula’s are media driven? How, it’s math?
Alabama has wins over #21 LSU and #25 Tennessee at home.
OU has wins over #11 TCU, #12 Baylor (road), #17 OSU (road) and #25 Tennessee (road).
You tell me who has better wins.
What does better wins have to do with SOS? That is only a piece of the puzzle. SOS is much deeper than that. And it doesn’t rank teams based on W’s and L’s, or the other polls. It ranks teams using raw data. Much less bias that way.
Are we going to get TCU’d next week?
No but I expect to be #4
Could be, Dave.
If OU drops to #4 next week, it can only be taken as a slight against them. They have responded quite well to being slighted ever since the burnt orange debacle.
It would be taken as trying to get them into Miami instead of Dallas. Only the top 2 teams are supposed to have location preferences.
That is not how it is suppose to work.
Only top seed gets geographical edge. Not 2, 3, 4.
Not so. The B1G champ Iowa will undefeated 13-0 and played a conference championship game. Iowa has the same differentiation over OU that Clemson has over Alabama. If MSU beats Iowa they will have the same record as OU but will have beaten in the last 3 weeks the team ranked #4 and #6 (previously #3) both with there starting QB. None of the OU wins were against top 4 opponents and all of them were against teams without their starting QB. Additionally OU was the only team of the three with a bad loss.
They are using the stated protocol criteria not the eye test as to whom they think should be ranked where. Similar to the ESPN show Sunday with their mock selection committee. They ranked OU #3 behind Clemson and Alabama and ahead of Iowa but when each of the eight committee members voted on who they thought would win it all 7 of the 8 voted for OU. One voted for Bama.
No. It really doesn’t matter. Let’s just get ready, tee it up, and go kick the butts of whoever we play where ever we play.
It does matter. Maybe not this year, but the constant disrespect shown the Big 12 is going to bite us or another Big 12 team on the butt some year. OU shouldn’t fall below 3, and I can make a case for 1 or 2. Why does Clemson get a pass? Why should an Iowa team with a SOS around 60+ (OU’s is 20) be a threat to us?
Win it all and we’ll get the respect next year with what we have returning.
Agreed, but it shouldn’t have to come to that. Clemson hasn’t won anything. Iowa, MSU, they haven’t won anything. Stanford hasn’t won anything. Everytime I think I have a feel for what the Committee is doing, I come away surprised.
It’s the times. What can ya do.
Exactly. We have already won conference championship in dominating fashion on road. Bama and Clemson haven’t yet.
Mentioned this above, but OU winning the Big 12 hasn’t even been factored in yet. That comes next week, which could actually push OU up, especially if Iowa loses.
We will be in but will be sent to Miami.
Miami in January is a great place to be. Saw us win an NC there in Jan 75′.
Me too. Plus, I live in Sarasota, so it’s an easy drive.
You’re not in London?
Not anymore.
Was in London in Sept. Loved it.
It was horrific in 05 when I was there.
Was there then, too. Not great, Bob.
Unfortunately I have also seen us lose a couple MNC there as well.
Which is total bullshit. There is no way we should have not moved up tonight and definitely shouldn’t drop, but I can see that too if MSt whips iowa, which I expect.
Long said the being crowned the Big 12 Champion hasn’t been considered just yet, so that’ll be factored in next week, which means OU can still be pushed up after all is said and done.
I watched the entire show including Long’s interview and didn’t hear that.
How could it not be factored in since it’s already happened? The more I hear about this, the more confused I become.
The four CFP Protocol criteria are only used to differentiate between comparable teams and it is my guess they will not use championships won until all conference champions have been determined. To do so would temporarily destort the ranking as B12 teams with there absence of a championship game could get conference championship points a week prior to other conference champions and present the appearance that the B12 champ was ranked higher than the other contenders when in fact they were not.
Apply the championship recognition at the conclusion of the season eliminates the distortion and keeps all teams evaluated in the same manner.
Bro, where did you hear Long say that? I watched entire show.
Cool, thanks bro!
Cool, thanks bro!
Fine with #4. Go to Miami feeling disrespected, again, and avenge last season’s embarrassing loss then take down the sec champ for #8. If OU’s D plays well, and no reason to think otherwise, and the O is humming, the respect will come.
I dig the underdog role.
Works well for Bob and his team.
Agreed. I want this team going into this with a chip on their shoulder. I want them feeling like it’s us against the world. That’s the way to get this team’s absolute best football.
I like it. On the D. The D-backs have to play better against Clemson. Bama, no worries, but Clemson will exploit a tripping, turning the wrong way, bite on the double Sanchez all night long.
I think/believe we play better on the road. We seem more motivated and more focused.
In a way I wouldn’t mind dropping to #4 next week. Sure would provide a nice chip for our shoulder going into that game.
If Iowa beats MSU in the B10 championship — and remains undefeated — I don’t see how the committee keeps them from jumping to #3 or even #2.
Someone with PS skilz, turn this into the interlocking OU on his shirt and a NC ring. 😉
What annoys the hell out of me lately is how many talking heads still talk like Bama has this great resume, and OU’s is almost as good now. Makes me want to ask what planet these people are from, and what schedule they’re looking at. Unbelievable.
Yep, we have 4 wins over top 25 teams. Bama has, uh, um… but they look sooo good!
It must be the color of their uniforms /s
OU played the #1, 2, 4, 13, 19,and 28 ranked total offensive teams in the country.
Bama played the 97th, 83rd, 76, 54th, 50th and 49th ranked teams in total offense.
Bama is all smoke-n-mirrors getting by on Bama mystique and victories over massively overrated conference foes who are mostly all outside the top 25 now or right at it.
Hmm I wonder how they have such a good defense. Maybe because those teams don’t score on anybody.
They played one dimensional offenses all season that allowed them to either sell out to stop the run or hang back in pass coverage in their dime package. They haven’t played a balanced offense all season long. Must be rough!
With the distractions with Kirby Smart interviewing for HC jobs Bama’s all world defense could suffer. We should know 2003 looking at you Mike.
Wouldn’t get my hopes up on that. Saban is the mind behind the defense, let there be no doubt.
Still wouldn’t mind Smart leaving. It would disrupt the D preparations some
Sounds like Bama’s already got an excuse for losing.
Yeah … smh …
Wow! No one’s throwing those stats out right now. We also held those offenses to season lows
We will be one of the four playoff teams, I honestly don’t care if they draw names out of a hat and place them in the bracket. We can beat anyone, anywhere if we play SOONER football!
BOOMER
You forgot anytime.
I actually like that idea. I mean, why not just name a top 4, then have some random way of seating them, as if they are all essentially equal. Would be much easier, and probably more exciting. Could have a “playoff seating” show out of it! Surprised ESPN hasnt thought of this. lol
I think the final rankings next week if nothing crazy happens.
1–Clemson
2–Alabama
3–Michigan State
4–Oklahoma
Don’t agree with this but I don’t think the committee will let OU play in the cotton bowl. Will not let us have a home crowd against Alabama.
I don’t think Michigan State jumps OU if they win. OU’s championship gets factored in next week to make things easier on the committee. I think OU sticks to #3 or moves up. But let’s not automatically assume Clemson wins this weekend…
I agree with the projection but not the reasoning. I think where teams play is a secondary concern for the committee. Simply put, you couldn’t fault them for moving Iowa or MSU ahead of us after beating a top 5 team. Whether we stay at 3 or move up or down a spot really doesn’t matter to me. Just stay in the top 4 and you have to play twice no matter what.
What top 5 team are they going to beat?
Whoever wins the B1G title will be adding a top 5 win to their resume this weekend.
As soon as they lose they won’t be top 5.
Ok, a win over a top 10 team. Still a quality win OU won’t have an opportunity to match prior to bowl season.
I think Iowa could jump us if they win, but if MSU wins I think we stay at 3
Out of those three I think MSU is the team I would worry about the most.
They have played a hard SOS compared to Bama and Clemson and are battle tested.
Ok so me being a fan like you all I want to get mad and scream and shout. But, seriously I think it should be noted that reality we expected to be 3 the hopeful side was looking for something higher. Mean the committee has been steady in one thing that’s ranking Clemson and Bama high. With that said, even if Clemson or Bama was ranked behind us they would moved ahead next week I am sure after winning their titles. Now we can hope that they both lose and then I think no question we are 1 or 2 should be 1 but we know with their thinking who knows. Point 1 we shouldn’t of lost to Texas and this would be a no discussion I think we can all agree with that and Point 2 since the loss at Texas we have done all that we can do and that’s beat everyone in front of us, that remains the same regardless if it’s Clemson or Bama, or Iowa or MSU, and to be honest I would like to have a chance to knock off the supposed top 2 teams in Clemson and Bama, and let’s not rule out entirely that Iowa or MSU could beat whoever they play, they have handled their business up till now as well. It’s easy to only look at your team and say hey we are great but, those other teams have done what they need to up to this point as well. If in a lil over a months time we our holding #8 none of this will matter and we can all say see we told you we was the best and at that point the rest of the world will have no choice but to agree! BOOMER!!!!
I also expect that maybe the committee would like to see us in a rematch against Clemson just to see if we are truly better than last year and perhaps they think that they would hope for us to win and Bama as well to set up a much more high profile National Championship Game!
No way. Ray Charles, Ronnie Millsap, Stevie Wonder, and Helen Keller can see we are clearly better than last year.
After last January. I am just happy to be invited to the party. If the invite isn’t yanked.
Don’t care as long as we’re in the top 4. I’m not sure about Iowa, but I believe OU, Clemson, and MSU are better than Bama. All three can do multiple things on offense and can shut down the run. I believe Bama getting out of the semi-final round is a real long shot.
I don’t care where we end up, I just want to make sure we play the two best teams. I’m hoping we draw Clemson first, then get Alabama for it all. This way Alabama will have zero excuse.
Caveat is if Clemson loses. If that happens, I’m pulling for Ohio State to get in(even though I can’t stand them). I only want them in because now after they’ve finally played ONE game where they looked halfway impressive, the whole college football world is on their jock. Who wouldn’t want to be the one to take that down.
I don’t want tOSU in. We will have two opportunities to kick their butts in the next two years. Don’t want to play 3 in 2.
does anybody think the committee will drop OU to 5th after the CCG’s this weekend ?
I’m sure you’re hoping for that
Of course he is. I don’t talk to that peanuts head anymore.
Nope, only you.
Nope. I can see 4th though. I’m good with that though. Let the team feel disrespected for a month, then say your prayers for their opponent.
We Own Saban. And If Clemson isnt scared of revenge… they ought to be.
1/1 vs saban……..own?
Was he the coach of LSU in that title game? Dang… Thought he was at Bama when we beat them OOC at home way back…
won vs 3 different bama coaches in ‘recent’ history…yes, loss to lsu saban
Hell no
No. Big10, SEC, and ACC are all already in with us. That would just leave a Pac 12 champ that could jump us. Stanford has two losses, so even if they win their conference, having that last game won’t trump our conference title since we only have one loss. Stanford just doesn’t have the type of offense that would allow them to have an eye-popping performance either. They’re all about controlling the clock and winning low scoring games. They won’t do anything this weekend to wow the committee. It also helps that we had a de facto championship game since Bedlam was winner take all for the conference title in the last game of the season.
no dude sorry…….. but it’s not happening
So, I just saw where the Conoly guy is gonna be on Toby Rowland’s show in the morning. Could be interesting.
If Baylor beats Texas this weekend as expected – who will represent the Big 12 in the Sugar Bowl? There will be 3 2-loss teams with no head to head tie breaker. Is there a 2nd level tiebreaker; overall points, highest ranking, etc?
Baylor wins they go to Sugar Bowl
Baylor loses OSU goes to Sugar Bowl.
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/107295/big-12-bowl-projections-is-baylor-sugar-bowl-bound
Why Baylor? Won’t they all have the same record?
Tiebreaker Procedures
Effective June 2015
The following procedure will determine the Conference Champion. The tiebreaker will also be used to break other ties as necessary. For the avoidance of doubt, only Conference records will be used throughout the process:
If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the champion.
If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 4 will be followed until a determination is made. Once a team has been eliminated from a multi-team comparison, it is dropped from further comparisons. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the Champion.
The conference records of the three or more teams will be compared against each other.
The conference records of the three or more teams will be compared against the next highest placed team(s) in the conference (4, 5 and 6….).
When comparing against the next highest placed teams, a two-way tie among the next highest placed teams will be broken by head-to-head before the comparison begins.
If more than a two-way tie exists among the next highest placed teams, record against the collective tied teams as a group will be used.
Scoring differential among the tied teams. The team with the lowest difference between points scored and points allowed in games vs. the tied teams are eliminated from consideration.
Draw (In the event steps 1-3 cannot break a multi-team tie the champion will be determined by draw at the Conference office.
In the event that scheduled regular season contests cannot be played as originally scheduled, every effort shall be made to reschedule such a contest at the earliest possible date, provided that such rescheduling does not interfere with classes, examination periods, NCAA rules, or other sports prohibitions. If contests cannot be rescheduled and in the event of a first-place tie, the conference tiebreaker system will be utilized to identify the Conference Champion.
Not sure this necessarily matters for bowl selection though.
Believe I found the answer:
TCU would be eliminated by virtue of lowest point differential between points scored – points allowed –
Then Baylor would beat OSU due to head-to-head
I really want Clemson then Alabama – I don’t care how . Payback and Vindication
Chech this out, WOW!! With a $217 Mil /7 yr deal, David Price will be making:
$31,000,000/year
$2,583,333/month
$84,931/day
$3,538/hour
$59/minute
$.98/second
Who is David Price?
left handed pitcher
Okay, thanks.
Crazy stats right there!
Love Price, but that’s big money for a guy that struggles in big games.
Watching Bedlam again…..life is good. 🙂
Me too
My son came in and asked how many times I was going to watch the game? I told him, all month long lol. My wife is a OSU grad she is hating it 🙂
Put it on loop and let it run around the clock….never gets old.
Ive watched the Kstate game probably 6 times. Perfect example of when everything goes right
It’s hard for me to watch an OU beatdown of a down program unless it’s against UT. But give me an OU beatdown of an undefeated, 1 or 2-loss team, and I’ll watch it over and over and over …
I wouldn’t call KState pitiful, or crippled. They’ve competed with teams this year. We kicked the ever-loving hell out of them, but they competed with TCU, had a game stolen from them by OSU and even gave Baylor a scare.
They weren’t a piss poor team, OU just executed in every possible phase with frightening precision in Manhattan. When they play like that, they can decimate ANYONE — just ask the other teams after Texas that OU rolled over on their way to the Big XII title (even TCU would have been a blowout if Mayfield had played the 2nd half).
Funny how you got “pitiful”, “crippled”, and “piss poor team” from me saying “down” … I don’t get it. Please explain if you find the time and will to do so …
No need to be defensive, I wasn’t quoting you. I said, “I,” wouldn’t call them that. I would even hesitate to call them down since, unlike the Kansas’ of the conference, KSU has been competitive with every team not named OU. Had they not had a game stolen from them earlier (KSU vs OSU), they would be 6-6 now with a chance to win their 7th game. In a top heavy Big XII, that is noteworthy.
In short, my only point is, OU’s utter dominance of them says more about OU’s potential, than KSU’s weakness. They are actually a competitive team this year, and that blowout is an anomaly compared to the rest of their schedule.
I’m not being defensive (where the heck are you getting that?), just wondering how you got those extra adjectives from me saying the word ‘down’. They were down since Snyder’s team wasn’t jelling on a level to compete against OU and the fans and team knew that … and their W/L record isn’t very good this year. Doesn’t it sound like they’re having a down year? Dude, we’re down in the weeds for sure, but you’re not making sense. KSU finished 8th in a conference of 10 … how is that not a down year?
Lol, fair enough. Peace.
As far as OU’s blowout over KSU, there isn’t much more I can say about what I think — it’s all in my first comment.
I was only responding since it seemed like you were offended at my words (or felt like I was putting words in your mouth). Since you weren’t (offended), refer back to my earlier post for my honest feelings on that particular Sooner win and what I think of KSU as a team.
I was until Bitchin’ Rides came on. Headed back after BR is over. 🙂
Recording or is it on somewhere?
I have on DVR, the game. the replay on coaches show, and the No Huddle replay. Watching the No Huddle version right now.
I keep watching the Tennessee game.
Here is a question for this group. Have we faced physical dlines and olines like we will in the next two games? I still have concerns about our oline against a physical front like Bama. If we play them, I don’t think they are going to try and throw like last time. I think we’ll get Henry 35-40 times. Is our front seven capable of slowing down their run game and force them away from running the ball? I’m just not sure we’ve played any teams with a great oline or dline like we’ll see with the remaining three teams. The key to beating OU is stopping the run and get pressure on Mayfield. We saw Texas do it. I know that was early in the season but that’ll be the template other teams will try to use to slow the offense.
Perine>Henry. We also have Mixon, Baker, Shep, and tempo. Bama want’s no part of us. Shut down Henry, you shut down bama.
Coker made some big plays against Auburn, but I do agree. And, truthfully, I don’t think shutting down Henry will be that big of a task.
Our db’s can handle their receivers, that leaves everyone else to close on Henry and the QB.
agreed if sanchez wears the right spikes!
He will be healed up by then. He had so much tape on his ankle, he couldn’t push off his toes. I’m not worried about Sanchez, he’ll get at least one pick off bama.
Or two….
amazing how may folks picking on Sanchez don’t seem to realize that he was playing through injury, again. He’s a very gutsy gamer, and even hobbled is an impressive cover guy
He will be healed up by then. He had so much tape on his ankle, he couldn’t push off his toes. I’m not worried about Sanchez, he’ll get at least one pick off bama.
agreed if sanchez wears the right spikes!
Cocker didn’t have to run from a heat seeking missile named Striker ?
Auburn has NO offense this year with a trash QB. OUr D can stop Henry and our O can OUt score Coker…
I think if OU decides to stop henry and force the qb to beat them they can do it. i think bamas OL and DL were better in the sugar bowl and we beat them then.
Not worried about most of the teams we might face DL. Riley will scheme for them and for teams like they have in the Big 10 and for bama, just go HUNH. They like to play situational defense and make subs, just don’t let them.
As for our DL, I will match our talent and depth with any team in the country.
Agree with all of this
Agree with all of this
I am not worried about Bama at all. Their QB and passing game is not nearly as good as half the Big 12, but they do have a line and run a lot, but we have backers like Frank Shannon for that. Bama should be really worried about our passing game that will be 3 fold better than it was when OU skunked them 2 years ago.
Not that he’s done a poor job of anything this year, but if there’s anything Mike Stoops excels at it’s preparing to stop the run. I’m not worried at all
YES, that was the criticism of him last year, that he was an incredibly good defensive coordinator but offenses had moved on from that. But the SEC hasn’t! They’ll see how good he is if they have to play us. It seems like depth will be crucial because they are loaded with talented players. But they will lose anyway, I believe.
Exactly thats what makes this defense so incredible, we are first in a conference that puts up 300+ yards and 40+ points consistently. Alabama would be easy to make one dimensional and I would trust our corners on an island with their receivers since they don’t have an Amari Cooper
To me…it doesn’t matter. In the end there can be only one….
dumb question….what is this from?
Highlander series of movies … http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091203/
Highlander
I want to see us and Bama at 2 and 3 and don’t care which one we are if we can play them at Jerry World. Will be the biggest game ever there.
Didn’t they play a Super Bowl there? And the CFP Finals were there last year. Hard to say a semifinal game is bigger than the final.
Kirby Smart at Georgia, I wonder who that opens the door for at DC
Kind of makes me want to draw Bama in the Playoff. Smart has to be distracted, if he even stays on staff.
This could be shades of Mike Stoops to Arizona in 2003.
Kirby Smart at Georgia, I wonder who that opens the door for at DC
I won’t disparage any team in the final 6; they all have justification to be there regardless of what anybody outside the committee thinks. Once, the final 4 have been chosen, they will all fight for their lives with every ounce of their talent and strength. Because the next day offers a continued chance for the dream or end of the season. No championship…no tomorrow…..to the victors…goes the spoils…
We’ll be in the Top 4.
We’ll be in the Top 4.
I have a feeling that Clemson is going to lose to UNC. I don’t think the top 4 will be the same next week.
Jordan I must say the most suprising thing about this is the Saved by the Bell clip without Kelly Kipowski (Tiffani Amber Theissen)!
Clemson, Alabama, Michigan St., OU. The fact that other teams play a 13 game schedule means a chance for 1 more loss, 1 more win. If the Sooner had played 1 more game or conference championship game (and won), I think the committee might have moved them up to 2.
This was posted below. https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/671850636627980288
That is stupid.
Stupid is as stupid does. …
Fine with me, we still retain #3 without that added in, which means their conference championship will be equally weighted with all the others from this coming Saturday.
Sounds good to me.
It is a very interesting approach by the committee. Hopefully our win will still resonate with them.
It seems our conference championship will. It can’t be ignored, it’s one of their primary criteria.
I predict Alabama will destroy Florida in the CCG and the committee will move them to #1. Clemson should beat UNC and they would drop no further than to #2. However, I also expect MSU to put a beat down on Iowa and it wouldn’t surprise me to see them jump into the 3 spot considering all the respect the B10 is getting this season. So I wouldn’t be surprised to still see Alabama – just with a change of venue. On the off chance that NC beats Clemson, OU will see MSU in Dallas and AL will get its rematch with tOSU.
If Stanford which is ranked just behind Ohio State wins the Pac 12 their conference championship won should allow them to jump the buckeyes. Long was adamant that a non-conference team would have to prove the are unequivocally better than a conference champion to advance. Ohio State SOS does not compare with Stanfords which I think would remove them from being unequivocally better than the Trees.
Fair argument – I just don’t think a 2 loss team (Conference champ or not) is going to make it into the final 4 this year. Clemson would have to lose convincingly and Stanford would have to destroy SC.
I think we’ll end up as #4. I think that the Big10 has been getting enough respect this year that their champ will jump us, especially if it’s a one-sided game. I don’t see how anyone else could though. Stanford has two losses, so even if they win their title, they won’t pass us up. Alabama and/or Clemson losing could only move us up. We’re in, but I think it’ll be at #4 not #3.
I think it is ridiculous if OU falls any further than 3rd in the Playoff. We’ll likely have the 2nd highest SOS after Bama. We’re playing better than all of them, except maybe Bama. We’ve beaten more top 25-30 teams than all but Bama. I bet all of the other metrics used to measure teams has us ranked above everybody except maybe Bama. The Big 12 is a better rated conference than all but maybe the Big 10, even though I think the Big 12 is tougher than the Big 10. The list goes on and on. I just don’t see what criteria they could use to drop us to 4th, or even, *gasp*, out of the Playoff.
#1 Clem: 2-0 against currently ranked top 10 teams: #8 ND, #9 FSU, and I assume they beat current #10 NC (they won’t be after a loss) and will be 3-0 before the final rankings.
#2 Bama: 2-1 against current top 10 teams: lost to #13 Miss, wins against #21 LSU, #25 TN (who they should have lost to if TN could kick a field goal), and will beat #18 FL to be 3-1 before the final rankings.
#3 OU: 4-0 against currently ranked top 25 teams: #25 TN, #12 Bay, #17 OSU, #11 TCU, w/a loss to unranked UT.
#4 Iowa: 0-0 against ranked teams. If Iowa had played Mich, Mich St, OSU, possibly even Penn St, they’d have more losses and probably not be ranked.
#5 Mich St: 3-0 against currently ranked teams: #16 Ore, #15 Mich, #6 OSU, with a loss to Neb.
#6 OSU: 1-1 against currently ranked teams: loss to #5 Mich St and win against #15 Mich.
#7 Stanford: 2-2 against currently ranked teams: losses to #16 Ore and #14 NW; wins against #20 USC and #8 ND. I predict they lose to #20USC in the rematch–it’s hard to beat a good team 2x in one year.
My thinking on final polls:
1. Clemson, who will be undefeated and 3-0 against ranked teams probably
2. Bama, who will be 3-1 against ranked teams after beating no-offense FL (in Dallas)
3. OU, 4-0 against ranked teams, w/loss to unranked UT (in Dallas)
4. Mich St, 4-0 against ranked teams, w/loss to unranked Neb
Nice job articulating Thunder — agree / makes sense.
My pref is for OU to stay #3, team to keep the edge, the chip on shoulder, …
Were ARE at 3. Just came out.
Kirby Smart to Georgia being reported.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2594962-kirby-smart-to-georgia-latest-contract-details-comments-and-reaction?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national
Lol
https://twitter.com/just_jd38/status/671914818660515840
This is what Ive been secretly hoping for all week!
OMG no way!
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Thank you Sharon for this wonderful news. I mean, I just can’t even.
I’m glad she decided to say something. It’s the first I’ve heard of it.
Fox Sports did a roundtable picking the playoff, and it was almost unanimously for Oklahoma, with Clay Travis as the lone Bama believer.
Apparently South Carolina is interested in Riley as their next head coach
Just saw this…bound to happen when the coaching profession explodes with all these vacancies I guess. Lets hope he decides to wait for something better
He’s a super-smart guy, no doubt about it. I believe he’s so smart, he stays at OU for the next season or two. I believe he’ll flame out if he goes to a Power5 HC job after only one season as an OC at a prestigious football program. Besides, the gamecocks (or any program really) will probably want him NOW rather than after the new year .. which will blow his chances of getting a natty for probably a VERY long time.
If this happens it will really suck!
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/14271200/south-carolina-gamecocks-plan-talk-oklahoma-sooners-oc-lincoln-riley-head-coaching-job
No kidding! That will suck big time.
It would suck, but I would rather have coaches that are capable of getting head coaching gigs than having ones that no one wants to take.
I hope Spurrier tells him that the place sucks and it’s too hard to win from that spot. I would hate for him to leave, but if we have a good season in 16, he WILL be gone. Next year, there still won’t be much in the PAC or the 12-2 that he should want. If Lester stumbles, Sabin retires, or something happens at Florida, he would have a great opportunity. So Caro could be a stepping-stone, but that is one slippery river-rock to put your foot on.
Please give Riley a raise and a chance to be the HC @ OU in the future?
I’d like to see something like that, but I’m not sure how you set it up. UT tried it and lost muschamp, probably because it was open-ended with no turnover date. IF OU wins out, that may give Bob the ‘ticket’ he needs to move on or retire. So, in order to keep Riley maybe something like this: 1) Boost in pay now, 2a) Stay with OU as OC and win out for $$$ bonus PLUS move in to HC position within 2 or 3 years, or 2b) Stay with OU as OC and move in to HC within 5 years. I just don’t know how you keep someone like Riley around when you have such a tenured HC as Stoops and his DC brother Mike.
OU can Beat all of the above . strong game plan against Bama and Clemson but i think we are so much better tan we where a year ago that its the true difference maker
Good article in the Daily News post. It explains with statistics why Bama might be a bad matchup.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/12/1/9826224/oklahoma-college-football-playoff-2015-opponent-alabama-clemson-iowa-michigan-state
I hate people who use statistics to prove some point. So, Bama leads in pass defense. They lead in pass defense because the SEC teams just aren’t very good at passing offense. Check it out for yourself. Bama played
Team—————–Total Offense—-Passing Offense
Wisc———————–83rd—————59th
Ole Miss—————–11th—————11th
Geo————————76th—————103rd
Arkansas—————–33rd—————34th
A&M———————–49th—————40th
Tenn———————–50th—————93rd
LSU————————54th—————110th
MSU———————–34th—————17th
Auburn ——————-97th—————107th
Will play Florida——–104—————–74th
Of course OU played some weak offensive teams as well. But, we played the top ranked offenses as well. So, I’m not sure we should be buying the Bama hype based on statistics.
Note: Bama lost to the highest ranked offensive team they played all year.
It is a hell of a lot easier to stop a running game then it is to stop teams that can throw the ball as well as run the ball and have a scrambling QB.
I agree. Stats do not tell the whole story. I’m also an Arkansas fan so I watch a lot of SEC football as well. And trust me, Alabama’s numbers in pass defense are due to not many teams in the SEC having good passing attacks, or running for that matter. Their run defense is so good because the teams that run it so well in the SEC are one dimensional.
I have my concerns about the oline and dline being physical in the upcoming games against much better talent than they’ve seen all year. Statistics don’t necessarily prove anything but they do provide some insight on the opponents. I’m aware that Bama hasn’t play a top offenses. But they have top flight talent and coaches. We’ve seen in the past championship games that when talent is equal or better than ours we’ve struggled on offense.