Bob Stoops Weekly Presser (TCU/Texas)
Posted on: October 6, 2014
Bob Stoops Weekly Presser (TCU/Texas)
Posted on: October 6, 2014
Bob Stoops Weekly Presser (TCU/Texas)
Posted on: October 6, 2014
The Football Brainiacs
University of Oklahoma Edition
Bob Stoops Weekly Presser (TCU/Texas)
Posted on: October 6, 2014
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- Oct 26th @ Ole Miss
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Bro… Going undefeated was never an option if that was the mindset…
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Let’s hope and pray that Bob doesn’t allow a second, unexpected loss. He averages a little over one game a season where the troops soil the bed. Please Bob, get the guys ready to play!!!
Man I miss Barry…. what cajones.
Bobby, you have some ‘splaning to do
I wouldn’t get my expectations up for that to happen today. Or for the media to actually push him (which, IMO, is one of their primary jobs) to do so.
Yeah but we can always hope.
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Shots fired
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He’s right, OU has to beat Texsa now.
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Here comes Bobby
TCU made more big plays in the game, per Bob
“Defense played a little better in the 2nd half”
Stoops said he didn’t feel the team played very smart
Didn’t coach very smart, either.
Stoops: Sterling Shepard had another sensational day. Very competitive, made some tough catches, made some huge plays
Stoops: We went down there a year ago and got beat by 16 points. We are still very aware of that.
That loss is one of 17 or so on Stoops’ list of ‘WTF’ losses since the 2000 NC. The coaching staff let everyone down that game. Seriously?? We lost to Case McCoy?? Texas was even unranked while we were #12 at that time. C’mon Bob … really?
https://twitter.com/EricBaileyTW/status/519172499519438849
Stoops on the passing attack against TCU: In the first half it was really positive. In the second half it wasn’t.
WOW. Thanks Bob! None of Us had figured that out!
https://twitter.com/OU_Football/status/519172723814051841
So basically, every facet of the passing game….problem stemmed from every single facet of the passing game…
Stoops: I believe lot of these issues are easily correctable. A lot of it is discipline, fundamentals. Even experiences guys struggled here and there.
Again, just blaming lack of execution for the loss instead of acknowledging horrendous play-calling. Bob, we were outplayed, yes, but we were also out-coached.
IMHO, (and obviously, Stoops’ as well) play calling was not horrendous. He’s not going to acknowledge something that he doesn’t believe. There were definitely problems with execution, receivers not getting open, not cutting the right direction, and linemen missing their blocking assignments. Same with the defense on several critical plays.
Agree to disagree, I suppose. IMHO, TK should not be making 39 pass attempts from the pocket. It’s not and never has been his strength. If JH really wanted to establish the pass to set up the run, then roll him out of the pocket, which is where he shined against Bama. Also, while not directly related to play-calling but personnel issues nonetheless, Ross does not need to be running between the tackles. Failing to execute the plays falls on the players, but failing to put our players in the best position to utilize their strengths falls on the coaching staff.
If Ross NEVER runs between the tackles, he becomes easier to defend. You can’t specialize a guy that much, or opposing D’s will pick up on it.
I tend to agree, which is why he shouldn’t be an option in the backfield. Give Smith or Brooks a shot b/c Ross does not have the tools to be a RB at OU. His skill set is too specialized and, thus, he IS easy to defend.
So the lack of any misdirection plays, failure to distribute the ball to a number of our weapons, no bubble screen, wheel route and only one flat pass, not to mention running Ross into the line or giving Samaje the ball on 4th and 1 about 5 yards behind the line is ok play calling. Not to mention blowing time-outs because you can’t get the audible in on time.
Outstanding execution might have overcome some of this, but IMHO, the guys making 6 and 7 figure incomes need to take responsibility for this loss. They flat out underperformed. They weren’t out coached, they under-coached Patterson and his staff.
Some coach developed the game plan and schemes that would be used. Some coach let them make mistakes, if indeed the players did. I don’t think Zach was 11 yards off the line of his own choice.
Prove it Bob. Same old song and dance…
Testy Bob today
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Stoops says they are still unsure as to the availability of #Sooners RB Keith Ford.
Charles Walker & Matt Dimon out for Texas game.
Walker had a knee sprain,right. What is Dimon’s issue?
Stoops won’t say whether Knight locks into receivers too much. “I’m not going to detail that.”
No need to comment on the obvious. JH doesn’t teach basic Qb skills like looking off or arm pumps. Also watch TK’s play action move, sometimes he’s a yard or two from the running back. Switzer must cringe at the lack of fundamental ball handling technique.
Do you really believe that? You honestly believe JH hasn’t tried to teach TK to look off defenders? It’s not that easy. When you aren’t comfortable, or confident, you are going to lock on. Right now, TK isn’t comfortable/confident. At times he is, and he does a better job. You can tell the kid a million times not to stare down a receiver, but that doesn’t mean he is capable of not doing that at full speed.
Stoops: As an offense, I’d like us to be more efficient throwing the football.
Stoops: They (specifically Boykin) showed a couple of new runs, we settled down some in the 2nd half.
He said he didn’t feel that was the difference in the game.
Stoops says Swoopes is similar to Boykin, “He can do all the things we saw a week ago.”
I don’t believe this is correct, fwiw.
Coach speak!!!
Greeeaaaattt. Are we going to play the mush hush, sit back and let Swoopes have all day to throw defense again??
I hope not.
Oh hell no. Blitz this kid every play and take him down. If he is the best they have, let’s make it so they have to bring in the back up. Need to come out and be extremely aggressive. Make him make mistakes.
Especially against a basically second string offensive line..
This was the funniest thing I thought Bob said all day. Swoopes actually sucks pretty bad…to be honest.
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So we got no pressure on the QB rushing 3. How was it going to be a sack rushing 1?
Stoops: Our CBs “didn’t have a very good day. Best way to say it.”
And our safeties did?
Having Zach and Wilson 10 yards off the line have anything to do with that.
You can tell Hoover is there today (wasn’t last week)
And Bob isn’t too happy about it.
Stoops: Getting plays in hasn’t been an issue for four games, so let’s get back to what we were doing then
pretty sure it was an issue against WVU
So why an issue Saturday? Was it because Josh was confused, trying to be too clever?
Stoops: A year ago as a true freshman for Dom (Alexander) to play the way he did was really remarkable. He couldn’t have played better.
Stoops on RBs: He (Ross) played well, he played OK. Samaje did good job again.
BS how is that possible??? May be one of the worst Highly rated RB’s recruits in the last 50 years.
I’m guessing he’s referring to his pass protection, rather than his finding the hole. Stoops real feelings about Ross will be shown when/if he keeps playing…
Let’s be honest… Not too many times does he describes someone play as “ok”. Key indicator.
Not sure they are playing to Ross’ strengths. JY would have taken a closer look at that but he’s clearly not an in between the tackle runner. I will say his vision looks questionable.
And we hadn’t figured that out in practices or scrimmages over the past 18 months. He runs upright, fast in a straight line, no jukes or major cuts, no interest in delivering a blow to a tackler, good hands, a target on the wheel route and flat pass.
Bob says they are trying to move Sterling around all the time to get him looks
Stoops on WRs: We do need to spread the ball around more.
State the obvious. See all my posts on this game.
He doesn’t owe us some detailed, critical explanation of all facets of the game. That does him, his players, and our program no good. NO coach gives the answers you seem to be looking for.
You again. Where did I say he owed us an explanation? Nowhere. Frankly, you need to find somebody else to vent on.
Bob’s a big boy, he agrees with mine and virtually everybody else’s assessment, we aren’t getting everybody involved, using all our weapons.
I’m not sure if you have a problem with some posts on this site, or if you have a problem with reading comprehension because I never said Bob owed us anything. I’m a big fan of Bob for a lot of reasons that have nothing to do with last Saturday.
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The problem is Bob has been losing in brilliant fashion since 2001. Remember Les Miles victory vs OU in Norman that year … 13 – 16? OSU was unranked, OU was #4 in the nation, and Les was 3 – 7 at that time. We were on our way to the Big12 CC at 10 – 1, then we lost and went to the Cotton Bowl to beat Arky. Point is: It is easy to say “parity”, but in reality, he’s covering up for the poor performance.
Stoops: Swoopes is a really big, athletic guy. He’s doing a good job, I
believe. They don’t go overboard w/ how much he’s running it.
Uh, he can’t run like Boykin, not even close. Bob tried to make that comparison. SMH
Stoops: He (Chuka) is like an uncle to the other D-linemen.
Stoops on Knight cramping up: He fought through it. In some of the other games, he hasn’t run it or scrambled as much.
Stoops on his first OU/Texas game: I remember being up 17-0 & losing….frustrated to get our guys to learn how to win & finish
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Bob is getting REALLY defensive over the QB draw call late 4th Q w/ no timeouts. Like, really defensive.
it appears he liked the call. 😉
Yeah, it got at least 10 yards every time we ran, but that one…….didn’t execute. Be interesting to see how many times he said “We didn’t execute” during this PC.
Take a shot everytime and chug a beer if he DOESN’T say “we made a bad call”.
I am in a small minority in that I didnt mind the call. It was the horrific execution that made it so bad. In college football against the 3 man pass rush with a team playing deep, its a great call as you get the 1st down, clock stops, and you’re ready to spike the ball and start again. What was inexcusable was TK getting tackled by one of only 3 rushers. If he had waited and not run blindly into the defender, we’d have got a 1st down and more. That playkinda summed up our day.
Stoops on playoff chances: “Just worried about this week. Through the years quite a few
one loss teams have won it, even with just a 2-team playoff.”
Stoops on if they’ll be wearing the gold-trim uniforms: I don’t know. I don’t really care.
Good answer.
He has way more important things to deal with. imo
Bugs me that no one asks Bob about Trevor getting under center and running the ball downhill some.. UNDER CENTER! At least some, jeez!
Stoops on the blowing timeout situations: Those are issues where we didn’t play in a smart way.
No, really Bob?
Yea, he is so defensive today..
very, tho I’m not surprised
Meerkat on 1
The correct answer is – totally unacceptable. 5th game of the year for a 4th year offensive coordinator to make this error multiple times is totally unacceptable.
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Stoops: Schedule is not ideal (being away from home for a month), but that’s just the way it is.
that’s a wrap for today
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I will say it again. We need a slasher for a running back. Samaje is a pounder. Ross is great in open space and cant run between the tackles.
Out of the pistol formation, I give you the slasher theory for sure. But we could just run our offense to suit the guys we have, and do a LOT more downhill style runs. But, Ford has some slashing ability, I think everyone is forgetting about how good Ford is, because of how good Samaje’s been.
Amen. You make your offense suit your personnel. If not it is square peg round hole.
I think that is where Ford is so huge being out of the game. Ford has that ability to really juke and be effective laterally but can also pound the rock downhill. Perine is a one cut guy and pound. Ross is just ineffective between tackles unless there is a huge hole.
I am very interested to see JY’s write up. In what I saw I thought I saw a lot of running against the numbers like JY talks about. Also I know of at least 4 times where Heupul sent in plays late with 8 in box and we still ran straight ahead. One of those runs was successful the rest obviously not. Other times there seemed to 6 or 7 guys only in the box and we ran at the side with 4 guys instead of the side with 2 or 3.
Sometimes I think Heupul tricks himself out of what is the obvious right call because it seems too obvious.
Lastly Trevor was bad after he got cramps. He just flat missed throws and that is not on Heupul.
Just watched Trevor field questions afterwards. He was the best I’ve seen him. Very poised, very mature in his answers.
I was just commenting about that on another post. He is so NICE. So hard not to root for the guy, and he seems very AWARE he needs to get better. sure hope he can, and I hope Heup puts him in better positions to exceed. I almost felt bad for him when he was asked about the swing passes and if that helps him get into rhythm, and if they are still a part of the offense? And he basically said YES, they do help him, they just werent part of the gameplan as much this week. LETS GO JH! Put the man in position!
Clearly there were a couple of plays where he needed to do things better, but having looked carefully at the plays, he was under serious duress a lot (the play action, roll the pocket play that everyone kept calling for being among the worst) due to poor protection, and the receivers were not helping. I think the announcers were way off base in their analysis of what was going on in the game, as well. (as they often are 🙂
playcalling.
We’ll agree to disagree, I expect. When I get a moment later, I’ll post more about it in detail, but I think the play calling for the most part was just fine.
Oh I’m not necessarily disagreeing, just saying I think the playcalls put him into rhythm, or not, and also set him up for success, or not. But you’re right, duress always makes a big difference. I just see it as the playcalls are the way around the duress.. Especially when you’re the more talented team. I felt the game was called by JH like we WEREN’T the more dominant, physical team.
And you could definitely tell the zone read “give” call comes straight from Josh up in the box, with him reading defensive end, PRE-snap, cuz Trevor kept saying “we” read DE. And so far, DE has always been in position to stop the TK keep… Really? Why, because he’s lined up at the normal DE position? NO effin way Trevor is actually reading DE during game, cuz the keep is always freakin open when they run zone read! Again, let the man play ball..
yeah, I was surprised by his remarks about reading the DE. Sure, some of them could be read “gives.” But, curious that some (er, quite a few…) of those that look like dead obvious keeper reads turn into gives, if he’s really reading. Hmmm…..
Or maybe they read it incorrectly?
They always make the same read and that’s give. Therefore there is no read.
JH didn’t run the read option so he probably doesn’t understand it. After all he seems to think Alex and Samaje run like Q so on 4th and one he gives them the ball 5 yards behind the line.
Dumb. If you understand the zone read, I’m sure JH does as well. Come on man.
Who are you to say that? I’m fairly confident that there is more than one explanation for why , if TK is allowed to run the read option, he misreads it. Of course, I believe what others have written, All the plays were pre-determined, no option involved.
Sorry if I react too strongly, but dumb I’m not. May I encourage a little less knee jerk reaction to someone’s opinion.
National Championship Caliber interview quarterback.
Knight needs to be in the top half of the country as a passer by the end of the season. If he stays around 98th with no injuries, then it’s time to see the next guy. I’ve been on the knight band wagon all along but he has got to show improvements in the back half of the season, as does heupel. They are not playing a smart offense right now and it seems the 2 weeks to prepare didn’t work for this team.
If they are going to show a read option then knight has got to keep it a handful of times each game, otherwise they’re killing the running backs momentum by not being under center and letting a guy like perine get a full head of steam. Also if they want knight to be a pocket passer then show some 4-5 wide sets and let him get some easy throws like we did with Bradford and Landry.
The other issue is to put a guy back to return punts that won’t fair catch every time. (Coaches are probably telling shep to fair catch) so put a guy back there that the coaches don’t mind if his head gets knocked off.
Very well said.
I don’t think he will. You can’t coach accuracy and he just doesn’t have it. He never has had it. At the level he is playing, I’ll be surprised if he makes it to the end of the season as a starter. We can get Knight’s level of play out of anybody on our bench…..anybody……..so they need to start giving snaps in practice to whomever has the most upside and get them ready to go.
I’m not throwing in the towel on Knight. He has been constrained by the coaches to not play his skill set of QB. And yes, he had a bad game. Which I believe was a result of how they have been playing him. Knight does better when he’s moving around, making things happen on the fly.
Also, I think the coaches were so confident in this team that they felt like all they had to do to win was play it safe and make zero mistakes. You don’t win titles with that philosophy.
I’m not giving up on knight but having 10 starts under his belt, and knowing where this team stands then he needs to step up. If he can’t take his game to another level, then he may not have that next level.
I’m not sure who’s fault it is that we don’t attack the middle of the field whether were not calling enough plays or whether knight just can’t see the middle of the field, but something has to change there. It doesn’t seem like we ever have post routes or even 10-12 yard in routes so it gives ordinary corners a chance to force Neal and shep to the sidelines since they have no reason to honor the routes to the inside.
Stoops said ‘Alex Ross played OK’… I guess he didn’t fumble the ball on his 4 carries for 4 yards. It is things like this that drive me crazy. We have a tank in Perine and a speedster in Ross but send Ross in on the first series of the game to run up the middle?
Knew we were in trouble when I saw Ross trot out there on the first series for whatever reason. I KNEW we were about to see major coaching incompetence that would cost us the game when I saw that.
But surely you are aware that we gain so much later in the game by running our ball carriers into the backs of our interior Oline.
Over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. Without result.
I mean, it worked to win us a natty against Florida. Oh, wait.
Ok, this presser is another typical Stoops. Not sure what everyone is wanting from him cause history has taught us what we are going to get. I have heard this same speech over and over again – every loss. And when we win, same speech. Not quite sure why folks expect it to change.
I’m really tired of hearing Stoops say he’s happy with the play calls and always blaming the players, sure the players miss some on execution but this offense could be so much better with the players we have. We have two pass oriented coordinators putting together a plan and they don’t seem to understand downhill power running. I’ll stop here because I have a small novel in my head and this isn’t the place.
You hit the nail on the head. I’ve got to think they should know running out of the pistol is not the strong suit for perine even though he went for 240 against wvu
I doubt they would let me coach a game but if I did, I would have Perine and Ross lined up behind Trevor. I would zone read with Perine always sending Ross the same direction as a pitch option. The box would be unloaded because the backers and ends would be forced to cover the potential wide game. Out of ten plays I would have about three where Trevor runs play action and throws down field or to a TE running a flat or seam depending on how the backers were covering. Enough dreaming, we’re stuck with a single wide out, the pistol, and a QB who is only effective on the move.
This is why I don’t understand how heupel seemingly fell asleep at the wheel. It sounds simple the way you describe it, that’s why I hate how difficult we make offense look sometimes. I would run the diamond formation more often than the single back pistol. Also I would use smallwood and mead regardless of where they are in their progression. We need to give knight bigger targets.
It really should be simple Zack. If you listen to other coaches (and ours) the thing they fear is having to defend the whole field. We have the tools to make them defend from sideline to sideline and keep an eye on the pass game. I really don’t understand why it can’t be done. Speaking of Mead, did you notice he pretty much one handed that hail mary with three defenders around him and he towered over them. We need him in the pass game even if he hasn’t picked up all the details yet.
Yeah if knight would have just put that ball in the same zip code as Amon g stadium then maybe mead would have had that touchdown.
I like Neal but we need to move him inside let him get going on some crossing routes because he can run and find space after the catch. Also if McNamara is better than bell, it’s time to play him more and maybe that will help bell more than it would sound.
100% on the TE, it’s time to put play makers on the field and get serious about this stuff.
Agreed. Blaming the players more often than admitting shortcomings in the game plan, poor play calls (an all-out blitz against a screen pass; see Tenn. game), too much predictability in the plays calls (as JY puts it zone read, give the ball; pass play, look for Shepherd), and so on.
Sometimes the coaches admit that they were outcoached. Usually that’s about it. Say it, then move on. Stoops blamed the players for some big mistakes against TCU. The players made some mistakes. How about the play calls and game plan the coaches had two weeks to prepare?
Why haven’t we seen Daniel Brooks? Kid looked really good in the Spring Game. OU’s been using 3 backs up until Ford’s injury, now it’s down to 2…why no Brooks?
I’ve only heard Stoops give a couple reasons for a back not playing much, ball security and not being able to block the blitz. I suspect the other backs do things in practice that the coaches don’t like. It was their reason for not playing Finch more than they did.
Like sooner ray said. However if he’s good in space play him on non obvious passing downs or move him to the slot. I don’t get why we don’t put the best or most explosive players on the field. They talk about it all the time on defense.