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For me this game and OU’s chances of coming away with a win center primarily around two things: (1) OU having consistent success running the ball & (2) OU getting pressure on Jarrett Stidham. There will be other factors to be sure, but in my opinion if OU can’t do both of those things they stand very little chance in this game.
* Man In The Middle: I can only hope the plan is to give Ty Darlington some help Saturday night, because he is going to have his hands FULL with Andrew Billings. If you can take Art Briles at his word (hahahahahahahaha….pauses to catch breath….hahahahahahahahaha), Billings is expected to be at close to full health in this one as he continues to work his way back from an ankle injury. But frankly, even a Billings at something like 75-80% is still better than most in the country and will present a significant challenge for a somewhat undersized guy in Darlington.
It’s critical because if Billings is consistently collapsing the pocket and/or run lanes, it will disrupt literally everything this OU offense will be looking to accomplish. No there is no doubt in my mind Lincoln Riley and Bill Bedenbaugh are aware of this and will plan accordingly, but when it comes to players as talented as Billings the best laid plans often go awry.
* Be Aggressive, B-E Aggressive: Some may disagree with the stance I’m about to take, but after two years of seeing the alternative fail miserably I have no clue how that could be the case. So if you are one of those people who disagrees with me, I’d be extremely curious to hear your argument against what I’m about to suggest.
Look, going into this one playing it passive, giving the Baylor WRs a 7-10 yard cushion, trying to keep everything in front of you isn’t going to work. It just isn’t. Like I said, we have two years of irrefutable evidence proving as much. We already know Art Briles is all too happy to take what you give him, methodically move the ball down the field, and eventually put points on the board.
The LAST thing you can do in this game, against a true freshman QB making easily the biggest start of his football career, is voluntarily make things easier on the guy. Why give him those gimmie throws? Why guarantee Baylor easy first downs? Why not make them work for it?
Now with an offense as talented as Baylor’s are the odds in their favor of burning you on occasion? Yeah, probably. But wouldn’t you rather go down fighting — i.e. playing up near the LOS, god forbid in actual, true press coverage, blitzing your brains out — rather than dying some slow, miserable death playing passive?
Man, if it’s me, I’m going out guns blazing. I can live with playing aggressive and getting beat. What I can’t stand, however, is playing off, giving up easy yards/first downs, even still occasionally getting beat deep, trying to “buckle down” once your opponent gets in the red zone, only to give up points anyway.
Every part of me is praying Mike has learned from his previous mistakes.
* Sanchez’s Ankle: We’ve been led to believe Zack Sanchez is back at practice and all is well. Which is great and everything, but do you honestly believe he’s going to be 100% on Saturday night? I’d suspect you’re much like me and remember how much pain he appeared to be in a couple weeks ago when the injury originally occurred. It’s just hard for me to see that ankle being fully ready after a couple weeks off.
And we all know Baylor is going to test him early and often. If OU is playing off (please, no), expect A LOT of what we saw last year in the Bears throwing those quick, short passes and forcing the Oklahoma DBs to come up and tackle (something we’ve seen Sanchez struggle to do at times throughout his still highly productive career). If OU is playing up tight, expect Corey Coleman and/or KD Cannon (among others) to be running plenty of double-moves and ‘go’ routes to again test that ankle.
* Ball Security: Let me start by saying I fully realize this is some serious Captain Obvious type ish. But given the ball security issues we’ve seen from this OU offense really all season, I feel in a game of this magnitude it simply has to be mentioned again.
On its face this will probably seem like the dumbest possibly analogy, but I almost liken this game to that debacle that took place in Dallas several weeks ago. Now clearly Texas and Baylor couldn’t be any more different in terms of a team (or program right now for that matter), and where the Horns needed a reason — one OU was still to this day inexplicably all to happy to give them — to believe Baylor most certainly will not.
But even as confident as the Bears are surely to be coming into this game, OU making early mistakes (i.e. Dallas 2015) would provide even more momentum for a team and crowd that won’t exactly be hurting for it to begin with.
All of which is to say an early — and at this point I think you’d almost have to say uncharacteristic — poor throw by Baker Mayfield, or an untimely putting of the ball on the turf by an OU running back could prove disastrous.
* Exploit The Middle: Mark Andrews was made for this game as far as I’m concerned. And yet amazingly enough I feel like we’ve seen very little of how many believe he would be used most effectively, i.e. in the middle of the field.
Not that he can’t still be successful split out wide, but you’d have to think inside, matched up on a linebacker or safety, he could be even more effective.
But at this point, honestly, just so long as they’re making an effort get him the ball, I’ll be content with that.
That said, maybe take a couple shots with him over the middle and/or up that crease, ala Jermaine Gresham. I mean I’m just sayin’.
* Legatron: As many points as there are expected to be put up in this game, it’s kind of hard for me to see it coming down to a field goal. But should it, one has to be at least somewhat skeptical as to the mental state of true freshman kicker (and punter) Austin Seibert after we’ve seen him struggle a bit with a recent propensity in hitting the uprights.
I’m not really that worried about it, but I’d be lying if I said it wasn’t something in the back of my mind.
* Sweep The Leg: If, and I can only pray OU is even fortunate enough to be in a position for this to be an option, Stoops is in a position to send a message — be it to Briles, Baylor fans, the CFP committee, whomever — I hope with every fiber of my being he doesn’t take his foot off the gas.
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What will you be watching for Saturday night?
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My first.. first
Nice work
What am i looking for? Effort. We lost by about the same point margin the last 2 years, but the effort was absolutely different between those 2 games.
2013 we played hard, but simply didnt have the offense to keep up. Last year, the kids AND coaches were mentally broken, and gave up.
This team has battled back from adversity all season. Even in the dallas debacle, they played hard to the end.
Win or lose, i want to see these kids leave it all on the field.
Balls to the wall. Completely open the playbook, no holding back. Need an 08′ tech performance.
Good write up JE.
I don’t disagree on the DB’s needing to play tighter coverage more often then they have in the past. I don’t thin all out blitzing is the the answer though. In 2013, from a quick view of the scoring drives, Baylor had some pretty short drives, which means they were hitting big plays. In 2014, there appears to have been less big plays and more sustained drives.
The one thing we absolutely cannot do is let Baylor score on big plays. Can’t do it. Can’t make it that easy for Stidham. On the other hand, we can’t make it an easy 10 play, 80 yard drive either. I think we have to get the DB’s closer to the WR’s, and pick our spots to blitz. I think we’re in a MUCH better position this year to try and make Baylor drive down the field in 10-12 plays, and be successful in stopping that. Whether we cover better. Tip some passes. Get some sacks. Or simply tackle better.
If we blitz and guess wrong though, a short pass or run play could turn into 6 points in the blink of an eye. I think avoiding that is mission #1. From there, you just have to feel out how the game is going, and how the D is doing. But all out anything (blitzing, zone, sitting back, whatever) is almost never the answer.
I think Austin should start or be ready to go instead of Sanchez. Sanchez has some rust. Just worried about him.
Right on the money. Austin has outperformed him.
I somewhat disagree with stopping the big play is mission #1. I see mission #1 is forcing the bears to get behind the chains, put pressure on the QB and force at least three punts for each of perhaps two bombs you give up. Being passive in the secondary is an invitation to allow the Bears to make 10-12 play scoring drives, control the clock and keep out offense on the sidelines which is not good when you probably need to score 40 points.
I think it’s worth noting, since the Switzer era, we’ve finished the season undefeated once (2000) and finished the season with one loss once (2004). Both years we were in the national championship game. So, let’s beat these chumps on Saturday, and get ourselves another step closer to another shot at the title!!
You’re forgetting 2008
Good catch Drew, thanks bro.
esco, nice effort………..my amateur opinion, seems pretty spot-on, esp para 1
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JE, I’ve noticed all year that we throw very seldom across the middle. We had two passes last week in the middle and one was a long TD post to Shep. I bet over 90% of the throws have gone outside of the hashes. I don’t get it as Baylor makes a living across the middle.
OU DBs, I would like to see from time to time our CBs being really physical at the LOS. The key is throwing off their timing passes. If we can pull this off, the rookie QB will start hesitating. The more we rattle their QB, the better off we will be.
I truly feel we will gash them rushing the ball.
Kind of drives you crazy, right?
How many times have you seen this in the comments. I hope they start the game with play action and hit Andres on a Seam.
Lastly, I would love for one of Stidham’s first passes to be a pic 6. Also, get a good healthy block on him too.
Mike’s plan was aggressive/highly effective in the Thursday night game a couple of years back. The offense could not move the ball and the defense tired from being on the field so much. We did not start out too shabby last year either. Just saying.
Yes sir. Very true. That’s the biggest change. We have a consistent QB who will put pressure on them.
Yes sir. Very true. That’s the biggest change. We have a consistent QB who will put pressure on them.
What I will be watching.
Stop the run outnumbered. I believe this team is not only deep at DL but also talented.
Charles walker needs to have his greatest game in his career to control the middle of this oline. Tapper/Striker need sacks. Dimon has made plays every game this year. He needs to have multiple.
Disguise coverage’s to bring misinformation.
Need the coverage to make the true freshmen hold onto the ball longer than a simple hitch read.
Capitalize on the opportunities for a sack.
Cover the middle of the field! The easiest throws are in-between the hash marks where the receiver is front of the QB.
Back 7 Coverage needs squeeze the throwing windows down for a difficult throw.
Get off the field on third downs!
Steven Parker/A Thomas…We haven’t seen busted assignments.. so the confidence is there.. its time to see the 9 route get dominated and out of the game plan.
Offensively, Billings is the heart and soul of that entire defense.
Darlington needs to be a player of the game and use his leadership to rally against the beast.
Everyone gets involved. Spread the ball around. Shep cant be the only guy with +75yds.
Big Strikes, consistent run game, and confidence on third and long.
Baker Mayfield continues his smart decision making. Taking care of the football.
His gamer play needs to be the difference in the game.
Lastly, I will be watching the refs..
Do they want to be apart of the game as much as the players or are they spectators?
IMO TCU had their victory stolen from them because of a late bad call in Waco.
That said I know you have to win in spite of the refs but if this game is close there cant be any mistakes from the crew.
Wow, seeing how much I wrote was a little much.. I have been thinking about this game for what seems like years.
Great insight Jordan. Offensively, I suspect Baylor will add a few twists to counter our success defensively, namely misdirection plays to create over pursuit, getting Stidham moving outside of the pocket to create passing lanes and counter our pass rush. Defensively, I believe they’ll load up front to stuff our rushing game, which if we can run the ball effectively, I think it will be one of our keys to winning this game, possibly by a wide margin.
If they load up, it’s up the our Wrs to beat their man…
Jordan, after watching the Baylor games from 2012, 13, and 14, I noticed that the Corners had the option of playing at the LOS or 7-9 yards off the LOS. The last time we won the corners played back and up at the LOS…I don’t think that is a big issue. It’s tackling in space and limiting possessions with our Offense being the best defense.
Amen, brother. Every expert I’ve heard says that playing press coverage is ignorant and the fastest way to lose quickly. Coleman will run right by any of our DB’s. We must first stop their run game and make them one-dimensional; must keep the plays in front of you; close quickly and make sure tackles; make Baylor sustain drives; limit their possessions by grinding out our own drives. Like you said, our best defense is a productive offense.
Absolutely. I was watching some Coleman highlights and they drop some balls too. And the QB misses some passes just like normal human beings. So, make them earn yardages and most likely they might stop themselves.
I’m confident that Mike will have a great game plan. I don’t think he as stupid as many of you think. We have the horses this year to play the type of coverage necessary to slow Baylor down. It’s going to up to the offense to score points and keep up with Baylor. We’ve scored 26 points total the past two games against Baylor. If our offense can score at least in the 40’s, we have an excellent chance to win.
Your confident Mike will have a great game plan? There wasn’t a human being in the stadium who couldn’t diagnose the problem with coverage last year. Yet the DB’s still played too far off. Its the same old problem this year. Our defensive stats look great on paper. But they are also padded by playing 5 terrible teams in the last 5 weeks. TX ran the hell out of the ball, and Tech Couldn’t run. Tech threw the ball but couldn’t run. Average those out and we played well against run and pass. It doesn’t take a genius to recognize that texas wasn’t going to beat us in the air. Why were we playing a pass coverage scheme. I don’t trust Mike Stoops in the least.
Our only hope at winning this game is keeping Baylor under 40 points and us scoring over 40 points. I wished to hell it would happen, but I really don’t see it. This win would be the biggest our program has had in over a decade (including beating Bama in the Sugar Bowl.)
If we are going to win the game we better cover their receivers good. It seems like I’m saying that every day but that’s what I’ve come to believe. Mix zone and man to where the freshman is confused. If we can’t cover Coleman and Kannon we are in trouble.
Then according to TCU Coach Patterson and Pat Jones, then everyone in stadium were idiots. So you honestly think that if we had pressed the WR’s last year that they wouldn’t have scored a 100? They would have had a field day going over the top. Coaches a lot smarter than you think that they only way to slow down Baylor is to do what I said above. Letting the WR catch the 2 yd pass is not what beats you. It’s not closing and tackling well.
Exactly. People are forgetting OU’s defensive front was nothing special last season and then you factor that in with an inexperienced secondary, options were limited and Mike Stoops chose the lesser of two evils. OU’s defensive front last season consisted of Jordan Phillips taking plays off to conserve his back and that was it.
THIS is the year that Mike Stoops should be judged as this is the first year that he’s been here where Oklahoma has competent front-end and back-end play.
THIS….”It’s not closing and tackling well.”
Your confident Mike will have a great game plan? There wasn’t a human being in the stadium who couldn’t diagnose the problem with coverage last year. Yet the DB’s still played too far off. Its the same old problem this year. Our defensive stats look great on paper. But they are also padded by playing 5 terrible teams in the last 5 weeks. TX ran the hell out of the ball, and Tech Couldn’t run. Tech threw the ball but couldn’t run. Average those out and we played well against run and pass. It doesn’t take a genius to recognize that texas wasn’t going to beat us in the air. Why were we playing a pass coverage scheme. I don’t trust Mike Stoops in the least.
Our only hope at winning this game is keeping Baylor under 40 points and us scoring over 40 points. I wished to hell it would happen, but I really don’t see it. This win would be the biggest our program has had in over a decade (including beating Bama in the Sugar Bowl.)
I just want situational awareness from our DBs on where they line up. Depending on formations, it’s pretty reasonable to play 7 off. If it’s 3rd and 4 and we’re not in press that’s when I’ll lose my mind. The other thing is the WR’s for Baylor literally are their greatest tell. They do nothing when it’s a run away from them.
You ever see what a WR for Baylor does if a CB goes into press coverage on 3rd & 4? Yep, they run a go and they will do this again on 4th down as this is their approach. Most times they win.
Also, if OU stays with man coverage the bulk of the time, not only is there little safety help, but Stidham is athletic and can run while the DBs have their backs turned. Need to mix the coverages. Would love to hear from some of the coaches on here and K about some coverages to watch.
I don’t think they are prepared to risk running Stidham. They need to protect him. So, if we get burned there, make him pay.
Stay man, we have people who will be watching him.
K had a little primer a few weeks ago. Seems that we have borrowed some concepts from TCU on a flexible man-2-man that breaks into zone or vice versa. That can confuse the best QB, never mind a true frosh. I’m anxious to see that in action.
I read where that is by design. When you see the trips on one side just quit their routes that means there is a designated WR that runs a go route and the QB makes the decision to only throw it to him or throw it OOB. Briles says he wants to keep the other WR’s legs fresh for rest of game so its ok for them to stop and get lazy.
If OU stops the run, has more time of passion and does not turn the ball over they will win. Scared LR will get too cute and forget to run the ball
WTF?
I’d agree. Sometimes Riley gets pass happy. Last game in Q2 is all you need to see. He went back to the run in 2nd half and we put a ton on the board. mix it up.
And LR admitted that he and Baker tried to get to cute in the 2nd quarter last week. I believe he will be very conscious of that in this game.
“more time of passion”…”that’s what she said”.
He’s scared? What makes you say that?
I meant I am scared he will forget to run the ball and try to pass it 50 times
Maybe we pass it 50 times and run it 50 times. That wouldn’t be so bad.
If that wins the game, I am for it. Balance is optimal though. You’re right.
“I hope with every fiber of my being he doesn’t take his foot off the gas.” You have me, everyone on here, every other OU fan, and just about every other big 12 fan i know hoping the exact same thing!!
80 points please
Whoever punts the most loses
K state showed all how to beat bu. Why they stopped running the ball ill never understand.
They had them worn out and we will do the same BOOMER!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes and once they are wore down. Mayfield’s scissor kick, jump run should be most effective.
Scissor kick jump run is most appropriate
Freaking hilarious. But it worked.
OU should slow…down…and…shorten…the…game.
Run run run eat clock put em to sleep
We are not going to option read with the QB as our base rushing plan like KSU did. Also Billlings was very limited against the wildcats,
“* Exploit The Middle.”
Watching the BU vs KSU game last week the middle was open all game. Andrews and Mixon could have a field day catching little 5 and 10 yard passes.
I’m smart, huzzah!
50 50 offense Perine up the gut. Swing passes to Mixon to keep Baylor honest. Then burners to Sheppard and Neal. In tight situations over the middle to Andrews or to Andrews 3rd and 5 or 3rd and 6. Defense press tight coverage non stop. Lot’s of pressure from Striker Walker Tapper and if Sanchez is healthy a pick six. No turnovers high tempo we need to snap in under 20 seconds every play.
I was thinking under 10 seconds. It really irk’s me when they do tempo for one or two plays then back to taking there time. Does anyone agree?
Absolutely! Tempo! Tempo! Tempo! The faster the better!
I tell you who else it irk’s more than me. That’s my wife, she gets beside herself when they do that. What are they doing she asks me.
LOL
I don’t know Dear. Why don’t you just drive right down there and ask them.
Baylor snaps every 17 seconds in the first half and every 20 in the second half to keep up and with equal time defense and offense play time we need to be right there keep both sides of the ball fresh. 10 seconds would be awesome.
If that happens we will see a’lot of this.
Yes Yes and Yes
WINNING
I only agree with the tempo if we are actually moving the ball. if we keep going 3 and out but don’t take any time off, OUr defense is going to be sucking wind all game. which is what has happened the past 2 years. if we’re in a rhythm offensively then by all means go for it.
Disagree. We should slow the game down on offense and reduce the number of plays Baylor has the opportunity to execute.
I agree, the more time they are on the sideline, the less their offense will exploit our defense. We must run the ball!
Honestly though, we just need to be able to move the ball offensively. And I think up tempo gives us the best chance to do that. If we slow the game up and can’t move the ball, that doesn’t do us much good
We don’t need to slow the tempo. That is too key to our offense being effective. What I think we need to do is be effective enough running the ball to burn a lot of clock and set up the play action passing game. That will keep the pressure off Baker. Once you get the play action passing game working the run will be set up to allow us to control the ball and the clock.
Just slowing the game down will destroy our hurry tempo air raid passing game and allow Baylor to get its defense set. We want their defense scrambling if we are going to score the 40 points it will probably take to win this ballgame.
You burn them with their own weapons. tempo and gas their D. Tempo is the biggest difference post Texas.
Get BU in a bad defensive set and abuse them all the way down the field.
I agree pimp. Although it seems like the most logical thing to do. Slow it down. But our offense is not yet a grind it out one, especially at the beginning of the game when the D is fresh. Mayfield loves the up tempo. We click that way. Save the grind it out for the 4th, up two scores and their D tired.
If OU can control the LOS on both sides of the ball, they win. Pretty simple to sit here and say that for me. Hard to execute on the field. DB’s must keep their heads in the game and cover well. Stopping the baylor running game is huge in this game. I firmly believe that OU wins this game.
i do too. better teams usually win, and we’re the better team, imo. TOs. TOs. I think we win here and we win on the scoreboard, too.
While you think of Baylor as primarily a passing team first, (7th) they are the #4 rushing team. Granted, that’s against the Lamars, SMUs and Rices of the world. Still think making them 1 dimensional is key. And while I want OU to be ‘aggressive’ with some blitzing, hoping OU can get pressure with the front 4 and occasional blitz, letting them run/throw between the 20’s all they want. Just keep them out of the end zone. See this as 40ish to 30 ish, OU.
If you saw the ISU game, they showed how to beat Baylor. They did a pretty decent job of stopping the run, until they wore down in the 4th quarter due to a lack of depth. They also ran the ball on them and frustrated the Baylor defense. This was all before Russell got hurt. ISU has an ok defense, but it is not in the same league as OU’s defense. I think OUr D comes to play and they have something to show the world Saturday night.
Would that something be “TOTAL DOMINANCE”, Like the days of old?
I wouldn’t stop smiling for a week!
Yep. OU 49th in rush D at a tick under 3.5 ypc. Held Warren in check. Not going to happen this week but think it is important to keep Linwood in check. OK giving up yards, but not points.
2.6 against the rush since UT. BU was 4.0 against those same teams and worse against each individual team. I think TT would have even done better, but TOs forced them to abandon the run early and sacks hurt their yds per rush against BU.
This year the bears are rushing for 309 y/g. In 2014 216 y/g, in 2013 260 y/g and in 2012 232 y/g. We need to keep them at no more than 150 yards rushing preferably 125 yards.
KSt held baylor to 103 yards rushing.
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Yep. They got those rankings the easy way and have cupcake all over their faces. They have yet to go against a front like OU is going to throw at them. Just saying OU’s front 6-7 needs to do what they have been doing so the Bear run game is limited. Big task along with getting pressure but think OUr guys are up to the challenge.
Jordan, I really enjoyed this post.
I think take-aways will be important also. Even if OU doesn’t score, if they could possess the ball 2-3 minutes that’s 2-3 minutes Baylor doesn’t have the ball. Based on my visual observation, OU’s probably possesses the ball about 4-5 per scoring drive. So, possessing a take-away 2-3 minutes should put them in field goal range.
I’ve been calling for Andrews in the middle because I think Baylor’s LBs and safeties are going to be influenced by Mixon and Perine in the flat. But another thing that I believe is a key is this game is that LR plays uptempo. I think if OU plays the possession game, they lose their rhythm. I’d much rather a shoot out than stalled drives.
Edit: look for the special teams to become special. I’ve been holding on to this to post later in the week: I think OU finally set up the punt return this week.
thx
Baylor by 50
Hello OSU troll. How is life for little brother these days? Got to pretty good. Didn’t think it was troll TFB good, but to each his own.
I always troll TFB no matter the circumstance. My favorite site for OU info. Also, I think the Sooners pull an upset Saturday.
Is that why you just called for a 50 pt Baylor win?
Twas a joke. Thats why it is called trolling.
An honest man … welcome!
but really,smart money is on Oklahoma. True Frosh QB, OU’s defense is playing lights out, and the OU O-line looks MUCH better compared to the first of the year.
The OL has a ways to go still ….
Mike Gundy would love to have the Sooner OL. But at least you all have running backs….
Walsh isn’t so bad.
nailed it.
Uh, no. Jokes are humorous, trolling is annoying.
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But we do appreciate you reading TFB.
Just had to see if I could get a rise out of someone. I’m pretty even-keeled when it comes to rivalry stuff, I think we’ve all been personally victimized by Baylor in recent years.
The most cordial of trolls. Welcome!
Can you tell me if he-who-must-not-be-named is an OSU fan?
We need to know. Do you have the goods?
You talking about Carson Cunningham?
Oh, no. You will have to read through TFB. I won’t say his name. But the initials are S and D.
Stephen Dale? I don’t think so, honestly. I think he’s just a really, really bad OU fan.
Well, wouldn’t that make him an OSU fan? LOL!
you can have him! we already have enough pessimistic fans….
I guess I was trying to sell you our junk.
nah. but if you all have any extra lineman or running backs we will take them.
After the game Saturday, Baylor might have some looking to defect.
I dunno. I think it will be a pretty close game.
OU and big. Don’t be surprised.
Agrees with Sam his enthusiasm has grown on me.Heck i might have to take tomorrow off to start celebrating
What time. I’ll be there.
this up 100
Like I said, to each his own. At least you reply and are polite. Come back the week of the Bedlam game and share some OSU insight on the game. Always makes the week go by faster.
will do. maybe i will hit up jordan to do a collaboration post if he is interested.
go back to where you belong, inside carson cunningham in some kind of fashion.
good one, Kelly. you mad that you’re headed to the alamo bowl?
almost as mad as someone from stillwater.
what would i be mad about lol
here
thats pretty good. i feel welcome…
Congrats on the win last week. I hope you win all but that game on 11/28.
me too! well, that one too… can you image Bedlam for the Big 12 title?
And a playoff berth! If neither of us lose between now and then, I see it as a lock for the winner.
I think it will depend on Notre Dame/Stanford and where each team stands going into that matchup, assuming none of the current teams lose. But a case could be made for OU if they continue their hot streak.
Even as prejudiced as the committee is, OSU gets in over a 1-loss Notre Dame or Stanford. Despite common opinion, I think the committee is aware of what happened last year, and aren’t going to ignore an undefeated B12 team. I also think a 1-loss OU team will get the nod; too many things would have to happen perfectly to keep them out.
I just dont think anyone from the Big 12 will survive unscathed in this three week stretch.
…. and then we should have no complaint if the B12 doesn’t get a slot.
ALAS
If this happens the conference needs to go away. There are really no two teams we could add to NOT make this a glorified mid-major.
If this happens the conference needs to go away. There are really no two teams we could add to NOT make this a glorified mid-major.
I think if OSU wins out, they take out Stan/ND. If OU wins out, I think Stan/ND is in. OU would need some help.
I think it’s much better for OU if OSU is undefeated on 11/28. Everyone talks about no conference championship; well, there you go. I’ll certainly be rooting for OSU over Baylor (assuming OU wins this weekend).
I agree with you, winning on the road at Baylor and OSU adds some zest too.
kyle boone is a puke, worse than a troll, and what’s worse than both of those is he up votes his own posts. what a cow fisting LosuR.
lol. do you feel better now that you got that off your chest?
yes, yes I do.
You spelled lOUser wrong.
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lol
The Good, the Bad, the Ugly.
The GOOD (for us):
#BU has played a TERRIBLE schedule. Teams they’ve played so far: .338 winning % but when you consider who those teams beat–ACU, Wagoner, Bacone, etc.–it doesn’t even look THAT good.
#At half against some of those BAD teams, those teams were not out of the game: lead one-win SMU @ half: 28-21; Lamar (who has won some games: Houston Bapt, ACU, Wagoner) lead 34-21 at half; lead WV @ half 27-17. A couple of games they jumped on teams early (TT) but that was due to TOs by TT (or they scored themselves) and BU had no problem scoring on TT’s D.
#BU could win the scoring title for the 3rd yr in a row. How is that good news for us? Well, it isn’t really, but KU would win the scoring title three yrs in a row if they’d played their schedule. Okay, that’s silly. KU won’t, but maybe a lot of other teams would have.
#Stidham at QB. Sorry, refuse to believe he could be as good as Russell as a starter yet. He’s a REAL good passer. Watched him in KSU game. Real good. But there’s more to be a good QB than being a real good passer (i.e., getting your O into the right play is probably the most important thing, and that takes time and experience).
#OU is playing MUCH better O and D since UT.
#OU leads D1 in sacks.
#OU has a higher FPI rating than BU. It’s usually a good indicator of how good a team is.
The BAD (for us):
#BU is BARELY behind OU in the FPI ratings.
#BU has scored 40 TDs on drives of 2 minutes or less. Ole’ Miss is second w/29. The reason I bring that up is b/c it’s happened TO US the last 2 yrs also (4 I believe in ’13 and another in 2 1/2 minutes; and 2 in ’14 w/another in 2 1/2 min and another in 3 minutes).
#BU runs plays faster than any team in U.S. at 16.7 seconds per play. Tulsa is running plays at the 2nd fastest in D1 (what’s FBS?). Against Tulsa OU gave up season highs in pts per play (.42), yds per play (6.63), and yds per pass (8.37). And, oh yeah, Tulsa’s coach coached against us in ’13 and ’14.
#Coleman, Cannnon, Linwood. Linwood leads B12 in rushing (of course, remember who they’ve played; that doesn’t hurt).
The UGLY:
#ESPN projects BU as 58% likely to win–who cares?
#2 of the 3 writers at ESPN that cover the B12 pick BU to win. They are probably 3 unbiased observers, so that doesn’t look pretty.
Olson is the UT writer, trotter hasnt been super fond of us for a while not, chatman is about the only one id call unbiased.
And Chatman is an idiot.
funny
didn’t know
np, just letting you know. I wouldnt take too much from their picks. Except the fact that all 3 had it close. I like our chances in a close game.
I posted stats yesterday that indicate that Baylor is relatively poor at methodical drives of 10 plays or more. Only 11% of their drives are 10 plays or longer, 103rd in the nation. They are quite explosive, however.
Source: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/feioff OR http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaaoff
However, the obvious question:
Are they just so much better at explosive drives (41% of their drives are explosive, earning 10 yards per play or or more) that they don’t need to be methodical?
It seems that Baylor is built to be explosive. As Art has said, “We do not try to go to the body to set up the knockout shot…we try to score on every snap.”
Source: http://grantland.com/features/chris-brown-how-art-briles-potent-offense-made-baylor-national-title-contender/
It appears that Baylor is built and intends to be explosive, not methodical.
Thus, I argue that OU should make Baylor be methodical. If that means OU gives them cushion, then whatever. That could also mean that OU disrupts timing, gets in passing windows, speeds up Stidham’s clock, and so on.
Wanna know which team is also quite explosive on offense? Texas Tech.
L, you’re the man.
agreed. but the main way the do it, imo, is to line up quickly and run a play quickly. fastest team in the U.S. at running plays, 16.7 sec to snap the ball. The D has to hope it is lined up correctly and everyone’s on the same page, so little time to communicate with each other on the coverage. if you think another guy is going to pick your WR up and he thinks you are going to stay with that guy, BU WR’s wide open. Big play.
They lead the nation in drives of 2 minutes or less with 40 and Ole’ Miss is 2nd with 29. They’ve done it the last two yrs against us, even when we played off them. in ’13 4 drives of 2 min. or less and 1 in 2 1/2 min. In ’14 they had 2 in 2 min or less (with one in 2 seconds!) and another in 2 1/2 min. So they’ve been doing it against us too
I’ll be watching the Sooners attempt to control the tempo and limit Baylor’s opportunities with the football, especially in the second half when a hopefully worn out D is getting gashed by Perine and Mixon. On D I’ll be paying attention to the LoS(thanks we all are right?) but if OU can stop the run with 6 instead of 7 or 8 and rush the passer with 4 or 5 that will go a long way to winning the game. On ST, don’t give up a game changer since OU isn’t going to be getting a game changer of their own.
Agrees with Dave
The way Baylor splits the WR’s with the slot guy just inside or at the numbers they force a LB too wide to effectively defend the box. Can be even worse if the split two wide to both sides. Those splits are a major contributor to Baylor being the top running offense in the league for the last serveral years.
The wide outs being that far out forces the D to declare early. Advantage O.
“Sweep the Leg.” You, sir, are brilliant.
“Be Aggressive, B-E Aggressive”. My thoughts exactly. No matter the results, I would be happy to see us come out in full press, full attack mode on defense. Make them fight for everything.
Yes. Go down guns a-blazin’. “Lord, make my hand fast and accurate.Let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who would seek to destroy me. Grant me victory over my foes and those who wish to do harm to me and mine. Let not my last thought be ‘If I only had my gun.” And Lord, if today is truly the day you call me home let me die in a pile of empty brass.”
Love the thought, and hope the result is not dying in a pile of empty brass. I’m more of the mindset of tight, aggressive defense, forcing the action, and make the other guy go down, as opposed to death by 1000 cuts/the 7 – 10 yard cushion.
I agree. I was trying to say “if” I go down I want to go down fighting, not sitting let letting you kill me.
http://www.foxsports.com/watch/the-herd-with-colin-cowherd/video/you-need-to-hear-this-college-football-conspiracy-theory-the-herd-111115
Very interesting thought on the CFP if no one has seen it.
It’s been linked, but it needs to be linked everywhere because it’s reality.
Pretty interesting seeing as though he’s throwing out facts about the CFP committee
http://youtu.be/U3vLjH1yXRQ
The committee is just so incompetent. It’s BS to have such a great sports champion decided by people voting.
I actually liked the BCS computer ranking system; it was nice to keep the bias away, but still include it in some way (by including the two polls in the formula.) I always thought when we finally went to the playoff, that they would have kept the BCS computer ranking, and use it to seed the playoffs. Really not sure why they didnt do it this way.. No one really ever complained about the computer ranking of 1-10, they complained about who was just Number 1, period. That system would have worked better I think with this playoff.
“Sweep the leg johnny!” love it
I’ll be watching for Zeus Brown to flex over Oakman’s carcass for an iconic Sooner photo op. Take the image. Plaster it everywhere.
This is the matchup I want to see that, for some reason, nobody seems to be talking about.
Me too, breh. Been waiting for it. As well as Zeus played against “Sack Mamba”, I’m pumped to see him embarrass Oakman.
All it really comes down to is whether or not OU ends the game with more points than Baylor. That’s the only way to win IMO.
Domination:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LSEa7qc_xU
Saying “I hope mike learned his lesson” is very likely missing the point, imho. It’s pretty clear that he felt the results would have been worse if they had attempted to cover differently last year, and i think they as bad and embarrassing as it was, it could have been worse. Up until the roughing the punter penalty, there was some hope. We could have been down by two or three more scores by that point.
This year is way different. Experience and the ability of the current group will give him options . I would expect him to play off sometimes and press others, to try to be unzpredictable. I expect them to be more successful at both.
The ability to get pressure should be better, which will also help. And the offense moving and scoring will also make a big difference for both sides of the ball.
Is it too much to ask for another blow out? I think not!
Not necessarily expecting it, but this is a team that appears to be peaking at a good time, so I’m not ruling it out either.
I………I believe………I believe that we………I believe that we will win…….I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN………I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!!……I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!!!!!!!!…….BOOMER! 🙂
So do I.
Shep is ready.
https://twitter.com/OU_Football/status/664828257548656640
Hope he shreds them all night.
You know baylor will be watching his every move. Could be a big night for Neal and Westbrook.
And Andrews, hoping anyway.
SR and ET: the baylor DBs are gonna illegally drape our WRs all night. I’m hoping the refs will step in, but it’s likely they won’t. Baker will have to scramble A LOT to open up our receivers.
Fortunately, we have a shake and bake QB. 🙂
I have faith we will dominate them. Turnover battle will be the most important thing. They’re starting a true freshman so we need to stay on the positive side of the turnover battle. +3 would be great.
Yep, turnovers as well as penalties will be a big decider in this game. I really think we can get after the freshman QB, even though he is pretty salty.
He is good but all the true freshmen this year have looked average at times
completely agreed. we’re better, imo, on DL (yes, DL, imo), LB, DB, QB, RB, and as productive as their WRs. Win TO and we win big, imo (altho I’ll take a 1 pt win)
the game will be won or lost at the LOS. That’s what I’ll be watching ………Think Baylor will control it and will win by 3 td’s or so………….
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http://media3.giphy.com/media/2EbJgud0upkT6/200.gif
Solve 1+1.
What’s up, EasTex?
What good thing happened for you today?
Good evening.
Not much, just the routine…work/poop/sleep, rinse and repeat.
How about you?
All good here. Can’t wait for Saturday to come.
Me either. Tomorrow is going to be tough.
Mavericks play at 1p.m. then the languishing for 3 1/2 hours for the Sooners.
OU WBB? I am thinking of going. A friend has season tickets.
Have fun.
I really can’t even watch basketball until after football has finished.
You said tomorrow, so I was thinking you meant WBB. Other than tennis, WBB is the only thing going on tomorrow.
I thought you meant between my high schools playoff game and the Sooner bear hunt.
Have to work/poop/sleep tomorrow and try not to look at the clock too often.
Ok, I wasn’t on the same page. Think I got it now, and I hope your HS team starts the day right. I do believe that the Sooners are gonna give us a smile. Of course, I always believe that the Sooners are going to win. 😉
Actually, I am more concerned about my old school winning than I am the Sooners.
Why not. If I lived around Norman it wouldn’t be a bad way to spend an evening.
Saturday?
Max has a swim marathon on Saturday. Boy is killing me.
As long as he is done in time to be home by 7p.m. I can always give you the video link. Mavs are going to have their hands full. Of Lindale’s 5 losses, one they clanged a FG off the upright as time expired, another the opponent made a 2 point conversion with no time on the clock and one game they lost by a Hail Mary as time expired. The most points they gave up in any game was 30 and they are known for stopping the run.
Tell him to speed up his stroke and kick harder, win and get home.
Will do.
Of course you do……………………………………………………………………the question is will your mom beat you when you celebrate every BU touchdown too loudly………………………………………..
So I assume you’ll be here on Saturday night to answer everyone who calls you out for being wrong?
I hope to be here taking my literary lumps if OU wins. Will you guys be here to do the same if Baylor wins ? probably not……….
I’ll be around. If we lose you can bet the boards will be melting down.
i agree………whether OU wins or loses…….Hopefully I’ll be making apologies all evening…………….
https://youtu.be/3DPKf7y1F-Q
Superstition says this is a good thing. Every time you predict a loss we hammer somebody. Keep up the good work.
Often times referred to as a negative indicator. Always go the opposite way with ol’ Eeyore’s picks, and you’ll be right very close to 100% of the time.
I’m doing my best ……
Stephen, please, tell me why you feel this way. I’m not your enemy – like most folks on this board – so do tell. 3 TDs is a bit much and why do you believe we’ll lose the battle at the LOS?
crickets……….
Baylor has a senior dominated OL that has dominated OU the past two seasons and KNOWS it can do so again…..Baylor has better OL / DL talent…..
I see what you’re saying, but I’m not on board with your sentiment. I may be after watching what you predict play out though … IF it plays out that way. Conversely, our D-line has become much much better, and it is deep. Hiring Reynolds was a home run, and his coaching is paying dividends. I believe the bears’ O-line will have trouble with them …. not only with their talent, but they’ll have trouble coping with the bewilderment factor due to what you say above. I believe if there’s going to be problems in the trenches it’ll be our O-line dealing with the bears D-line. I don’t see them making holes easily, and I see Baker doing more than his usual amount of scrambling when he’s trying to pass. If he can keep his wits about him, the scrambling should open up receivers downfield though …. so I hope our receivers will be on Baker’s wavelength so he can get the ball to them during his scrambles.
Stephen Dale = Corso on this board !!!
Mens BB on FS Ok.7pm
Update if there’s something worth mentioning, I only get FSW. 🙁
Early it is going mostly OU 20-11
Sounds good, will have to flip over during time outs of the first televised Texas high school playoff game.
nice
Preseason? Or has season begun already?
Pre-season against Mid-American Christian. Former Assistant coach from last year is the new head coach for MAC.
I love the edge that the guys are practicing and carrying this week…….BUT I kind wish they would quit sharing it with the media. Art Briles already coaches with a crazy chip in his shoulder always they don’t need more motivation.
This game is about OU conquering the ghost of the last two years. In both games the team quit in the second half. I’m mostly concerned with their mental preparation. They are saying all the right things and I want to get excited but the memory of too many games that I thought the team would play with motivation ended up in a loss.
‘ve said all week, Baylor has the confidence edge and they have taken the OU mojo away. This game has become personal and I expect them to be emotionally ready. OU has to match the emotion in the first quarter. If they don’t, I think the Baylor momentum will be too much to overcome.
For me, It all comes down to not trusting Mike Stoops. I think Bennett is the better D Coordinator. He will play to win and attack the line of scrimmage. If Mike plays conservative we will lose…unless we win the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. If our defense is for real maybe we can play that way allowing that we get pressure on Stidham.
I remember Mike arguing on the field with #2 last year about coverages. Bob later said it was up to the CB to decide the coverage. That’s bullshit! Play to win the damn game! If we lose so be it but I can’t watch another game of off coverage and three man rushes. Give the players the chance to attack and have fun.
Different players, different attitude. Not sure you have watched any games this year, because I have not seen any quit in the team this year. Even in the Texsa game there wasn’t any quit, but a lack of focus.
I’ve seen them all. But they weren’t playing Baylor and the most they’ve been behind was 17 against Tennessee. Call it what you want, quit, focus or motivation they weren’t sharp and lost. Baylor has played with more confidence and have won 3 of 4 games.
I stick with what I said. Different players, different attitude. New offense took a while to gel, but is now getting more comfortable with each other and the coaching. DB’s needed the change of attitude from the coaching staff and have grown because of it. I do not think that you can compare last years team to this one. Not even close.
I hope BJW is enjoying his retirement. 🙂
Me too. lol
Not comparing last years team but many of the same players remain. I only said that I believe OU players and coaches have a confidence problem after losing 3-4 games and the last two by blow outs. We will see if being a different teams makes a difference. Keep in mind that Baylor hasn’t lost a home game in 4 years. You certainly are entitled to your opinion as am I. That’s what this board is about. Here’s hoping we pull off a giant victory cause nobody hates a roles and Baylor more than I.
Coming back from being down “only” 17? Good way to make your point.
Again, that wasn’t a high scoring team like Baylor. So my point is made.
And it wasn’t a porous defense like Baylor either. So your point is foolish.
I admit the sight of defenders playing 7 yds off the line of scrimmage, then back pedaling on 3rd and 3 still worries me. I wish I had confidence in mike but I just don’t have it.
I have a good feeling our defensive front can limit their run game. To me, if we can take away Coleman it is over. A freshman QB facing a great pass rush will crumble if we eliminate his first look. I’m not worried about scoring. BU may take away one component of our offense but we have proven capable of moving the ball any which way we need to.
This right here is the most revealing stat/chart I’ve seen that proves the incompetence of the committee. This Joel klatt guy is going to bat for the big 12.
https://twitter.com/joelklatt/status/664948301171585025
He’s a former Colorado QB.
Hes going to bat against the current love affair of the committee that is a horrendous breach of trust with the power they’ve been given. The committee says one thing, but that thing doesn’t line up with the facts. Klatt is debunking the bullshit.
Im with klatt, but i dont think his point is super strong here. It shows overall big 12 schedules arent as bad as everyone likes to claim, but its actually not good for us when you look at OOC.
Big 12 teams get 9 power 5 teams each from conference play, SEC teams get 8.
So in OOC play big 12 has .8 p5 opponents per team, SEC has .86 per team, .92 per team for the pac 12, and .5 for the ACC.
In theory that actually shows the big 10, at 1.36, having the most p5 teams on its OOC schedule.
Agree. This should show D1 OOC above.500. Better indicator of quality opponents.
But that is at least partly due to the fact that the B12 round robin schedule limits the number of OOC games to 3 instead of 4. The argument made by proponents of this system is that it is tougher precisely because teams will now have to play more conference opponents instead of adding another FCS cupcake to the list.
Anybody else think 1430 am the Buzz in Tulsa is struggling without Plank? John Klein is on at 5:00 pm everyday, and he seems a little disgruntled too
Haven’t listened to the AM side for a couple years, I didn’t know Plank wasn’t there anymore.
If anyone is watching the NFL game, it’s like Christmas in November…..those uni’s.
I am just hoping the Sooners basketball game finishes on time, Coaches Corner is scheduled for 9p.m.
Game over, OU wins big.
any idea what channel that airs on? i watch my parents dish network on my laptop from san diego and would like to start recording that.
It’s always on Fox Sports Central for me in Dallas, I think it might be Fox OK, too.
thank you sir
Welcome.
Don’t read too much of the Baylor boards.
It will just send you into a frenzy.
Just read a “OU review”.
“They have no playmakers on defense”
“Offensive line is soft and porous”
“Baker is overrated”
Aaaaahhhhh
I need Saturday to get here fast so I can see my Sooners take care of business!
I only read opponent boards post game to enjoy the tears.
I read before and after.
“They can’t run the ball” turns into..
“We can’t stop their Perine!!
Who is this mixon kid?? Wtf bros”
Recurring themes from the Whacko Bears fanbase:
1. We’re awesome.
2. Stoops brothers aren’t awesome.
3. We will remain awesome.
All wrapped in an arrogant, cheap tortilla, served cold from a taco stand that does its darndest to make you think (1) it’s a five-star joint (2) and it’s been a five-start joint as long as any other premiere eating establishment. Eat up and shut up.
Their tears will be delicious. Ready for the sanctions to fall so they’ll all turn back into UT fans.
Tears of unfathomable sadness…
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/113456/tears-of-unfathomable-sadness-o.gif
Classic episode. A favorite of mine. “Crybaby.”
Bulletin board material. But I imagine our Sooners have had their fill of Baylor and the hype going their way. Looking for the O-Line to step up and kick ass. Looking for a beatdown in Waco.
http://www.kstatesports.com/video/563c2d81e4b0d54205a07425
The more I think about it. The more it really depresses me that we are even having conversations about beating Baylor. Sorry had to get that out.
Imagine how Texas fans feel.
It’s really close. Everything I have seen. Baylor is a 5% fav to win by 1 or 2 points.
Think about that.. 1 or 2 points .. 5% favored certain. No one knows
All those sport pundits don’t watch as much as we do.
I want us to be the underdog. I want everyone in the country talking about Baylor has the greatest system ever created. That way when we win and claim our rightful place has the best team in the southwest it will propel us into the top 4.
I enjoyed the figurative “eyeroll” that B Stoops gave on the sooner sports talk show when someone complained that they weren’t targeting Andrews enough.
I’m thinking. Why don’t we see the nfl use wide splits by their WRs?
It’s all good for Baylor
But, use the sideline.
Our Dbs need to be physical, have inside leverage, and work them into the sideline.
Nfl doesn’t use that scheme. Guys are to physical.
Right? Or am I missing something?
Watching OU Sooner Playbook, I love Ol’Dusty, but dang that boy talks entirely too much. I had to hit the mute button for his “Oklahoma Drill.” He talks too much and way too fast.
One thing we can’t do is lose our minds the first time Baylor scores. They’ll probably put up 30 points in this game. I’m not super impressed with their defense (even with some of those freak athletes) though, so we’ll put up a lot of points too. I think the difference will be the secondary. I see us getting at least two INT. Basically, we just need to “break serve” a few times to win this game.
Interesting. http://www.footballstudyhall.com/2015/11/12/9721366/can-oklahomas-defense-finally-stop-baylor-bears-stoops-briles-coleman
For all the talk about what the D needs to do it won’t mean much if the O chokes like it has the last 2 years.
Keeping the Bears out of the endzone is a full-team effort. Offense must win the battle of field position or at least break even. No more of this 3-and-out crap or turnovers deep in our own territory. The last 2 years we had multiple occasions of our D starting with their backs to their own endzone because of this kind of stuff. That simply will not work. Defending against the Bears is already a monumental task for any defense; our offense cannot add stress to an already stressed unit, to say nothing of the exhaustion factor with the D barely having time to take a breath before being called back out on the field, and expect to have a decent chance of victory.
Last year in Norman our O made this Bears D look like a different Bears D (read 1985 Chicago). They held our offense to 14 points. The only other B12 team they held that low was Kansas. Yeah, that Kansas. The only teams to exceed this ignominious feat by being held to lower scores were SMU and Northwestern St. In short, playing Baylor is a horse race, and it starts with offense. If the O cannot make sustained drives and put Baylor’s back to the wall, it’s highly unlikely our D will be able to bail us out.