Some Thoughts On OU vs. TCU

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Welp, that certainly didn’t go as planned.

Although coming off a struggle like that, albeit one in which you still managed to escape win, I do think it’s important take a step back and look at the whole big picture of things.

I mean coming into this season did you really believe this OU team would be in the position they’re currently in? Set up exactly where you’d want them to be with an outright Big 12 title and CFB playoff spot both there for the taking.

Yeah, we all hoped that would be the case, sure. But truly believed it?

And yet here they are.

OFFENSE

* This certainly isn’t original on my part, but if there was ever a case to be made for Baker Mayfield’s Heisman campaign it was OU’s second half offensive performance. But even well prior to that Lincoln Riley’s game plan left me — and I’ll assume many of you as well — really scratching my head.

You’re ripping off at least 5+ yards per between Samaje Perine and Joe Mixon, yet you continue to insist on throwing the ball. And not only that, but WTF was the deal with all those designed QB runs? Especially after Mayfield had already been dinged up, you’re still calling those?!?

It’s easy to sit here after the fact and second guess things, but even as they were happening very little of what OU did offensively lats night made sense to me.

* Three first half turnovers forced and you’re only up 23-7 at the half I thought was a real testament to the job Gary Patterson and his staff did with a decimated defense game planning against Mayfield and this OU offense.

I thought Mayfield looked thoroughly confused on a number of this drop backs, something we really haven’t seen from him all year.

In Captain Obvious news, Patterson remains one hell of a defensive coach.

* Almost impossible to overstate how impressive that 72-yard Perine on a bum ankle touchdown run was. Not only did it wind up being the difference in the game, but it came at a time when the OU offense had become completely stagnant. Which, sadly, pretty much describes the entire second half.

* Look, I’m with everyone else in describing Trevor Knight as an all-world person. But his play in the second half Saturday night was downright painful to watch. He looked like a bad high school quarterback and, frankly, was incredibly fortunate to only have the one interception.

Again it’s low-hanging fruit, but the idea there was ever a decision to be made between he and Mayfield as QB1 seems borderline laughable after last night.

I do not like to pile on the young man, but that was some next level awful and if, god forbid, Mayfield can’t go for Bedlam, OU would sure look to be in deep, deep trouble.

* In Knight’s defense, however, I also didn’t feel like Riley did him many favors. Trying to throw those quick slants and/or seam routes just simply isn’t something Knight excels at, never has.

If you’re going to throw with Knight, you have to give him those quick screens and swing passes to the RB out of the backfield. Utilize his athleticism getting him out on the edge with some run-pass option. What you don’t want to do is run the zone read, something he’s shown a propensity to struggle with for a couple years now.

* Remember a couple weeks ago when I said in one of these that I didn’t even want to contemplate just how screwed OU is at WR next year without Sterling Shepard?

Well, he had eight receptions in this game. No other OU player recorded more than one. ONE.

* Hard not to feel like this game was a bit of a step backwards for OU’s offensive line, at least in the pass game. It’s pretty hard to find fault in a 333-yard rushing day, but prior to his head injury Mayfield was routinely running for his life back there. And it didn’t really get all that much better for Knight, although that was also in large part to TCU realizing they had no reason to respect his ability to throw the ball.

DEFENSE

* Much like Riley’s game plan, a lot of what Mike Stoops did also confused me.

I didn’t really follow the logic in rushing just three, sometimes four guys for what felt like the better part of the game. Especially against the pair of really inexperienced backups TCU was forced to roll out there. I mean you’re coming off the perfect example of what pressuring a young, inexperienced QB can do for you and yet you go away from that which worked?

Honestly, it was almost as though they put in a game plan with the idea that Boykin would play and then just decided not to adjust anything after it was clear he wouldn’t.

Or maybe it’s just me, I don’t know.

* Look, who am I to question Gary Patterson? But that decision to go for two is borderline indefensible as far as I’m concerned.

Yeah, I’ve read all the #HotTakes on why he should have done it. And I’ve read Patterson’s own logic behind why he felt he had to go for it.

I just simply don’t care.

With all due respect, if you’re one of those who said at the time or shortly there after it was the right call, I’d have to question your intelligence.

I watched that second half OU offense just like all of you. And if you think they were suddenly going to prove capable of moving the ball in overtime after being incapable of doing so for virtually the entire second half, then I’ve got a bridge I’d like to sell you.

* I planned to open here with a note on Charles Tapper, but I thought K pretty much summed things up perfectly last night during the game.

It was easy to kind of discredit a lot of what he’d done in previous weeks because it came against the likes of Kansas and Iowa State, but these last two weeks have shown Tapper’s stellar play has been no fluke.

* It’s easy to look at the three interceptions OU’s secondary recorded in this game and assume they played quite well, and I think for the most part they did. But at the same time I didn’t think they looked anywhere near as good as they did just last week, and that was against much more of a threat in Baylor than the one they faced Saturday night minus Trevone Boykin and Josh Doctson.

I’ve said countless times I am happy to live with the risks of playing aggressive rather than the passive, soft coverage we’ve seen so many times, but my word does any pair of CBs in the country bite more on double moves than the combo of Zack Sanchez & Jordan Thomas?

* Simply put, Charles Walker is a difference maker. I’ve got absolutely nothing against Matt Dimon, think he’s a really solid player. But he just doesn’t make the kind of impact plays Walker does, and I can’t help but feel their respective number of snaps should reflect that.

SPECIAL TEAMS

* Credit Austin Seibert for the three field goals he did make as OU definitely does not win without them, but otherwise definitely not the strongest of nights for the true freshman. He had the one 39-yard miss and I thought really kind of struggled punting the ball most of the night. Not sure how much wind was an issue Saturday night, but Seibert ended up finishing with an average of just 38 yards per punt.

* Alex Ross continues to remain an absolute mystery on kickoff returns. At times it almost looks as though he couldn’t possibly be more disinterested in even being out there.

* ‘Punt safe’ is the devil.

750 Comments

  • George Lowrey says:

    Having Baker on the bench was a powerful reminder that last year’s record was more the consequence of poor quarterback play than of any other problem. I’m optimistic that Lincoln Riley will correct this problem but it will take time to develop two or three good backup quarterbacks who can step up and play as well as the backup quarterbacks we have faced lately. The current situation is especially disconcerting given OU’s Heisman success at quarterback in recent years. We should be “Quarterback University” but we aren’t. Why? How could Coach Stoops let this situation get so out of hand?

  • George Lowrey says:

    The hit on Mayfield was as flagrant as I’ve ever seen. A blow to the back of the head like that can injure the brain stem permanently. A penalty and ejection isn’t nearly enough to deter such deliberate, dangerous targeting against a key player. How about making the guilty team play one man short for the rest of the game? Seems more appropriate. I’m shocked the ESPN announcers didn’t express more concern at the time. http://espn.go.com/video/clip?…

    • Stephen Dale says:

      or a multi-game suspension for such an egregious ‘targeting’……….Mayfield was targeted to level the playing field and give TCU a chance it , most likely, would not have gotten had BM played the entire game……….

      • George Lowrey says:

        Not a bad idea. I truly believe ejection and a penalty simply aren’t strong enough medicine to deter similar behavior. The tragedy is that the more of this kind of behavior we see, the more likely football as we know it and love it will be regulated out of existence.

        • Martin says:

          Is it coincidence that Mayfield and Mixon had such violent spearing hits vs Baylor and TCU? I agree that the TCU hit was technically worse as he actually saw Mayfield going down and yet lowered the crown of his head and took aim. I was kind of surprised a team of medics wasn’t on the field within a few seconds. Mayfield’s headache could have been due to the ill advised head slaps he received on the sidelines later.

  • George Lowrey says:

    Trevor Knight is a wonderful person and had a performance for the ages in the Sugar Bowl. But we are doing him no favors putting him in a position where he can’t perform. He’s a great athlete. We should find another position for him, perhaps as a receiver or defensive back.

  • Big Higg says:

    The rushing 3 was killing me.

    • OUn8v says:

      I was wondering why we didn’t seem to be playing tcu like we did the bears? I don’t know enough about football to know if there was actually a difference in coverages in the two games, but it just didn’t seem like we were getting the pressure that they did like against bu.

  • Austin says:

    I think the main reason for the lack of distribution to the receivers was due to who was throwing them the ball. Baker was sharing the ball in the first half, I only remember knight throwing to Shep and Mead. If Baker doesn’t get hurt, then more receivers get touches.

  • SoonerMagic76 says:

    Rough second half to watch fellas. And the first half was at times too. To force 3 turnovers in the first half and only have the lead we did… that’s why you convert field goals into touchdowns. Comes back to bite you.

    Like J said, couldn’t be clearer how much this offense has needed Mayfield after that game. Perine really came in clutch.

    D broke down down the stretch. Rough second half to watch.

    But, we got the W. Let’s hope Mayfield is ok and go best those orange things up north

    • Austin says:

      The D broke down because they spent literally the entire 2nd half on the field. The offense was incapable of even picking up a first down, so it was 3 plays, punt, and back to the defense for the majority of the 2nd half.

  • Jason Vos says:

    Trevor Knight cant throw, he’s cant execute a zone read without tripping, he can complete a forward pass. He completes more passes to the ground than to his receivers.

    I tell you what we better step up our recruiting of QB’s. And I hope the new guys coming in in the 2016 and 2017 class can throw the dang football. I hope they are passers first b4 runners.

    • George Lowrey says:

      How did this situation come to pass? How could Coach Stoops let this happen? I hope Lincoln Riley can fix the problem but it isn’t going to happen overnight.

  • Zack says:

    The play of walker, romar, wade and even ward is why I would have liked dimon to be suspended. Dude is starting over IMO much better players. Dimon is a guy who should play on obvious passing downs.

    Alex Ross looks to be disinterested in playing football these days. Did he even catch one kick off? It seemed like they all bounced 4 yards deep and he ran straight off the field. I don’t know if it was mixon or Neal back there on one of the kicks but it looked like they tried to tell him he should have taken it out.

    There’s no reason to even talk about the punt return game or special teams in general anymore. Stoops doesn’t care at all about potentially flipping the field twice a game with good run backs.

  • OUn8v says:

    First, I’m reminded of the past several years of our problems: poor recruiting, coaching, and lack of leadership.
    To say that Patterson was borderline genius on his defensive plan in one paragraph, and then rip the offense is confusing to me. The team lost it’s heartbeat last night when Baker couldn’t return. It revealed just how critical his talent and leadership is to the entire team. Little to no offensive production resulted in the D having to be on the field too long in the second half.
    I don’t expect the team to be perfect. But, when it came down to the nut cutting, OU’s DBs stepped up to win the game. It reminded somewhat of the aTm game on our way to the 2000 natty.
    Riley said at the beginning of the season that he believed that he had the talent for OU to be successful this year. Some new coaches and players, here and there, have proved him out.

    • George Lowrey says:

      Agreed. With our Heisman success at quarterback, it’s baffling why we don’t have more quality at that position and players at least as good as the backup quarterbacks we’ve faced in the last two games.

      • OUn8v says:

        To me, it’s about the lack of past recruiting. When Sammy went down, the best we had was Jones??? Who was Jones’s backups?? Then, a walk-on comes along and BOOM! He’s up for the Heisman. Same with receivers. Same with Oline and Dline and, and, and….. Coaches were supposed to have coached AND recruit.

        • George Lowrey says:

          You make an excellent point. We have played better than our recruiting justifies for several years but things really caught up to us last year with the poor quarterback play especially. The troubles would have continued this year were it not for Baker Mayfield. The ultimate responsibility has to rest with Coach Stoops, though I like him and admire him. I hope Lincoln Riley stays long enough to make a big difference.

          • OUn8v says:

            And Cooks. And Diron. And Bedenbaugh. I think they’ve already made a diff, although I understand your point about Baker.

  • Hotrod33 says:

    Jordan,
    I was confused on why we didn’t run the ball most of the game. We were punishing them and I told my friend keep running until they stack the box then bring Andrews in and throw over the middle for an easy reception. Force Patterson’s hand and make him choose which one to stop. I agree LR didn’t call his best game but also in the second half it was almost like they wanted to play conservative and almost lost the game. You can tell this was a major letdown from what we saw last week at Baylor. Hopefully the coaches will prepare them a lot better this week. If Mayfield can’t go, then the defense will have to play the game of their lives Saturday. I truly believe the kept Mayfield out just as a precaution and that’s all. I had a headache just watching too. Hopefully they got that out of their system and really can focus on the prize that is right in front of them and that is the Big 12 title and Playoff berth.

    I thought the defense played well at times and then sat back and relaxed also. I was confused that we didn’t put more pressure on their young qb’s. I mean we did that to Stidham and it paid off. Then you come in this week and just play average. Sometimes I just don’t get want Mike is doing. Very inconsistent play calling from him. Overall, not the best of games but not the worst. A win is a win and I will take it.

  • Ash Jones says:

    One question: Would TCU take a one point win and look bad, or look great and lose by one?

    OU plays for a championship this weekend. TCU gets to play in December at nobody cares bowl.

    Enjoying every second because Striker, Shep, Tap, & Alexander will never play on Owen field again. I want a championship for those guys because they have poured their hearts out for OU and us fans.

    • Austin says:

      Alexander is just a Junior, just sayin

      • Ash Jones says:

        He gone. 🙂

        • Hotrod33 says:

          I don’t think he will be drafted. He is still learning the LB position and has gotten better each year. He comes back.

        • Super Keith says:

          I really hope the young man isn’t thinking he’s going to be a high round draft pick (and if he is, I really hope he takes what the draft board tells him, and doesn’t do anything foolish). He’s been a solid LB for us, but he is not ready for the NFL. I’m not sold that he’d be a high round pick after another year.

          • Kelsta says:

            I have no idea about his status as a potential NFL LB. But I can’t imagine he is draftable, based on his measurables. He is a smart kid that makes tackles because his intelligence. That said, if he is draftable, I don’t see him improving his stock with another year of cfb.

          • MrBigsby says:

            He needs to improve his stock in the real world, the NFL won’t be part of it. Stay in school, get that degree, and go do great things with it!

  • Austin says:

    Okay, now that’s we’ve all shared and vented out negative feelings last night and now it’s spilled over to this morning let’s try a new strategy. Let’s be positive! We would have very well lost last night, but we didn’t. The defense came up big and in years past I don’t think that happens. Second, we have it all riding on the line next week going to Stoolwater. If we win, we’re big 12 champs and probably on our way to the CFP! Not many people thought we would even have this opportunity at the beginning of the season, so let’s get some positivity flowing around here!

  • Kyle says:

    I think the idea of doing eight on defense was because the front three dominated last week and if you can get pressure with three and force a backup QB (and freshman) to make great decisions and throws. Obviously the front three didn’t get as much pressure as last week.

    Completely agree on Knight. The QB competition must not have been that close. I’m guessing knight’s contention in that QB race was lip service because it is a wide gap of ability between our QB 1 and QB 2.

  • Mike says:

    Is Knight really the next best option behind Mayfield? That was just bad.

  • Jason Vos says:

    I’m at a loss how Trevor Knight can be this bad. No wonder we sucked when he was the starter.

    Josh Heupel was not the problem

  • Josh says:

    Question my intelligence all you want Esco, luckily you say enough I don’t have to question yours anymore 😉
    Other than that, everything else is spot on.

  • Ash Jones says:

    Oklahoma is playing for the BIGXII championship. OU OU OU OU OU! Just enjoy the 10 wins with three more to go. We won last night, that was the goal. Beat oSu!

  • Will Narramore says:

    An ugly win is still a win. Obviously I wasn’t happy with the 2nd half performance but playoff hopes are still on the table.

  • Sooner Ray says:

    We may be the most fortunate 10-1 team in the country and we have Baker, Shep, Perine, and a defense that makes just enough plays to thank for that.
    As for the 2 pt. try, that’s just what you do when on the road and the opponent is on their heels with no time outs, thank you Mr. Parker.

    • Zack says:

      I had no problem with the 2 point conversion but Patterson had to know kicking the pat and going to overtime, they would have beat us.

      • Ash Jones says:

        GP saw that OU’s defense was still playing well, just like theirs was. He figured no guts no glory. Yes, Knight didn’t play as well as we like, but Samaje & Mixon on the 25 doesn’t make any coach want to go overtime.

        • Bill Holder says:

          OT would have been nothing but run game for us. If not, I have zero confidence in Riley. I think we would have scored on the ground and defense would have stepped up and made a stop. In other words, Patterson made the right call.

      • Daddy R says:

        I was actually surprised he didn’t pop Green up the middle on that one…OUr D was soooooo gassed.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      If you think we are the most fortunate 10-1 (or better) team in the country, you haven’t watched much football this year. SEVERAL teams with that record that could, if not should, have additional losses. And that includes the mighty Crimson Tide.

      OU has been in control of every win this season except the TCU game, and we controlled that one until late. It’s tough to win a conference championship or NC without some close games, or a little luck.

      • Sooner Ray says:

        I never said “we are”, I said “may be” as in “one of”. Point was who predicted 10-1 and what would the record be right now without Baker and some clutch plays by those I mentioned.

      • Stephen Dale says:

        looking for a team that has been extremely LUCKY to be at 10-1 ? look no further than the pukes in Stoolwater…………..won 4 games coming from behind in the 4th Q and won 1 game with the help of an officiating error………yet the Pukes present a real problem if Mayfield can’t play…………

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Esco, I’m one that said the 2 pt conversion was the right call. So, you’re questioning my intelligence. Calls that like are instinctive, and even Bob Stoops admitted he was surprised. If that play works, I’m questioning your intelligence.

    • Zack says:

      The higher % was to go to OT and watch ou hand them the victory. We weren’t scoring a td in over time.

      • Ash Jones says:

        You lack faith. Perine and Mixon would have pounded the ball in deep into the defense of TCU. No need to throw it.

        • Hotrod33 says:

          The way LR was calling the game I wouldn’t be so sure. It wasn’t his best play calling of the year.

      • SoonerfanTU says:

        I disagree. OU regroups, and can’t play “not to lose” in OT. Plus, we only have to go what, 35 yards for a TD in OT?

        I’m not saying I wouldn’t have taken my chances in OT if I were Patterson, but I can certainly see going for it as well.

      • SoonerfanTU says:

        I disagree. OU regroups, and can’t play “not to lose” in OT. Plus, we only have to go what, 35 yards for a TD in OT?

        I’m not saying I wouldn’t have taken my chances in OT if I were Patterson, but I can certainly see going for it as well.

      • Mizuno44 says:

        I’d argue the higher percentage was going for 2. On the road, Sooners with no timeouts, offensive momentum. element of surprise. Too many variables in overtime.

  • Waters says:

    That was a miserable, depressing, bad win!

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      Beating one of the 3 toughest teams on our schedule, with a backup QB playing the entire 2nd half was depressing?

  • Roy C says:

    I don’t think our defense played that bad. If you look at points per TCU possession, it was very low. Our problem was giving them too many possessions. I keep thinking about Water Boy when the evil team decided to take a knee on each play and run clock. If we had done that (I’m not proposing it) we would have won by 17

    • Big Higg says:

      Other than only rushing 3 I think the d did pretty good considering the o couldn’t get going in the 2nd half. They had to be gassed by the end of the game

  • Wolfdog says:

    Baker, please be healthy for next week. Otherwise, get Cody Thomas some major practice reps.

    • Wolfdog says:

      Hate to respond to my own post, but we might be better off running the Wildcat next week. Seriously.

      • Spitting Bull says:

        That was my thoughts but only if Mixon or Perine can throw a jump pass or something low risk. They would just stack it on them otherwise.

  • Ed Cotter says:

    This was the 2015 version of that 2000 win vs. TAMU. When it looked like OU was dead in the water defense made a play to pretty much seal the deal. Marshall INT in 2000 and Parker’s deflection in 2015. It was far from pretty, but the Sooners won. I like that this team never gives up even when things aren’t going well. Sooners won the game and that’s all that matters.

    • Hotrod33 says:

      Since you brought it up, this year definitely feels like the 2000 season, we played well early in the season and then started getting banged up at the end and the defense propelled us to the NC. A lot of similarities for sure.

      • Ed Cotter says:

        Yes, except that we rolled Texas in 2000. Now the Sooners just have to get after the Pokes and then see what happens. I am not sure how many Sooners fans even thought, when the year began, if OU would be in this position. Every week has been a playoff game for this team IMO, and they keep winning. Good stuff.

        • Daddy R says:

          I would take a “rolling of little brother” this year, in place of the rolling of tejas that year..

        • Stephen Dale says:

          I certainly didn’t……..I figured this group for 6-7 wins max…..the year has been a pleasant surprise due, in part, to the team staying healthier than over the past five years………………….

      • Ed Cotter says:

        Yes, except that we rolled Texas in 2000. Now the Sooners just have to get after the Pokes and then see what happens. I am not sure how many Sooners fans even thought, when the year began, if OU would be in this position. Every week has been a playoff game for this team IMO, and they keep winning. Good stuff.

    • Daddy R says:

      Toby compared it the the 12-9 win over okie state that year… Said Derrick Strait knocked away a pass in the end zone, that was eerily similar to last nights two point attempt.. Either way fellas….WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!

    • Spitting Bull says:

      I was thinking the exact same thing.

  • WilliamJack says:

    Sooner Magic. Ugly win, I’ll take it. Hope we’re at full strength next week.
    Everything said was spot on.

    Is any one else as tired of seeing Orlando Brown get penalty after penalty? If not for his pedigree would he still be the starter or at least a Coach in his face after such lame penalties?
    Alex Ross has evidently given up by the looks of his play.

    • Hotrod33 says:

      I don’t know what is going on with Orlando. These last two games he has killed drives with personal foul penalties. He needs to get his head out of his ass and don’t worry about what the player says or does. I like his aggressiveness and all but needs to turn it down a notch so he doesn’t get those foolish calls. It can make you go crazy.

    • Daddy R says:

      I was okay with the penalty last week vs Oakman…it was early, and he needed to prove a point. Last night though, KNOCK IT OFF man! But, as to your “coaches in his face” point…Bob was all over that sh*t.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      How many right, alrights can you count in that clip. lol.

    • Exiled In Ohio says:

      What they were saying in that clip is what I would like to be reading here at TFB. It was ugly, but it was a W. We still play for the B12 championship next week. And it is still likely we will be playing for a playoff spot next week. Let’s give TCU credit for a gutsy game, and let’s start getting ready for OSU.

      And all this stuff about “we can’t win without BM.” If OU is a championship team, they will find a way to win whether BM, TK, CT … or even Joe Mixon plays QB. Just win, baby! We’ve reached the quarterfinals; just 3 more!

      • Shelby is a Patriot says:

        I really like what Sanchez was saying, it showed leadership by him and also reminded the team what we’re playing for next week. We’ve put ourselves right where we need to be, just gotta get the win.

        • Daddy R says:

          Tapper essentially admitted in his post game, that they were already “well aware” of what to expect next week, and they’ve been waiting for it. I seriously think this team slightly overlooked TCU. Thankfully, not enough.

          • Shelby is a Patriot says:

            We may have. Though I am happy to hear they’ve been waiting for this game. That tells me they haven’t forgotten last year and will hopefully come in with the same emotion (with a bit more restraint) that we saw against Baylor.

          • Daddy R says:

            Yea, he could have been referring to last year…just seemed he meant more recently. But, I could have misunderstood his meaning.

      • brainpimp says:

        RAH RAH RAH.

  • Wilson says:

    Glad that’s out of the way…next! I will take 3 more wins by 1 for a Championship for 1000 Alex.

    Boomer !

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    My thoughts….Whew! No Baker no win Saturday. The D played well outside of about 8 plays. Just glad to have the W.

    • Ed Cotter says:

      Had Baker been seriously hurt they would not have let him come out for the second half in his uniform. He would have stayed in the locker room, or even been taken to the hospital. They may keep him out of the first couple days of practice, but we should know more at Stoops Presser on Monday.

      • Hotrod33 says:

        I thought the same thing. I agree they hold him out for a few days and he plays. I really believe he just had a bad headache nothing more(knock on wood)

      • Soonerfandave84 says:

        Let’s hope but his bell was definitely rung

      • Soonerfandave84 says:

        Let’s hope but his bell was definitely rung

      • Bill Holder says:

        You won’t get even a hint at the presser.

        • Josh says:

          The hint will be if Coach Stoops brings up TKs Sugar Bowl performance more than 3 times.

        • Daddy R says:

          He already gave a hint in the postgame. Said, Baker was cleared early on, but at half, he complained of a headache (which would have happened from that hit, regardless of if he is concussed…), and so the doctors pulled him for precautionary reasons. You could tell Baker had been crying from pleading his case when they came out for second half.

  • Waters says:

    TK is a great cheerleader and water boy.
    The Alabama Win was Brady channeled in to TK’s
    Body.
    Emotionally I feel like we lost the game.
    I am not looking forward to the osu game if
    Baker isn’t healthy.
    The second half was a repeat of last year.
    My frustration is off the chart.

  • CT2 says:

    I think knight has the physical tools to be a good QB. I think how he approaches playing brings him down. His personality kills him as a qb.

  • Waters says:

    Concussion is head trauma associated with symptoms.
    Headache is a symptom. There may have been other symptoms we don’t know about.
    Rest with no contact until symptoms disappear is the current practice.
    Some recommend automatic 2 weeks rest with no contact.
    We should have a back up QB that is as good as osu, Baylor, and TCU.
    TK’s performance and poor QB recruitment is the fustration.

  • Waters says:

    Concussion is head trauma associated with symptoms.
    Headache is a symptom. There may have been other symptoms we don’t know about.
    Rest with no contact until symptoms disappear is the current practice.
    Some recommend automatic 2 weeks rest with no contact.
    We should have a back up QB that is as good as osu, Baylor, and TCU.
    TK’s performance and poor QB recruitment is the fustration.

    • Brad Warren says:

      We haven’t recruited poor quality qb’s. That’s so knee jerk, it’s absurd. TK has lost it but that’s not a reflection of our overall qb recruiting. Just an absurd comment. It’s always a good idea to have facts to support a claim. If not, it’s just garbage.

    • Daddy R says:

      They went over the current protocol for NCAA last night on radio. He must complete 5 steps. Take base test, then perform light cardio, and test again. IF passes, then he does light drill work, then takes test again. If passes, then he does more football work, and takes test again, and then again, and then, he must practice fully, and take test again. SO basically, Baker must practice this week at some point to be cleared for game.

  • KatyOUdad says:

    Bedlam game next Saturday at 7pm on ABC.

  • Ed Cotter says:

    FYI- Herby has OU in his Top 4, with ND at #5 and Baylor at #6.

  • Ed Cotter says:

    FYI- Herby has OU in his Top 4, with ND at #5 and Baylor at #6.

  • Austin says:

    This is just my take on the whole Baker thing.. Someone who has a concussion doesn’t continue to run around out there juking people left and right and make spot on throws like he did. I think the hit rung his bell and he definitely had a headache, but I don’t think it’s a concussion. If there was even a slight chance he was concussed, no way the training staff lets him finish the first half. He’s gonna be okay, and he’s gonna help us kick some cowboy butt on our way to a conference title!

    • Wolfdog says:

      Let’s pray. Or, live or die with Cody Thomas.

    • Walter Sobcek says:

      Getting your bell rung is a concussion. The severity varies.

      • Austin says:

        He took a hard hit that gave him a headache. The trainers continued to check him from
        The time he got hit until the end of the half, if there was the slightest doubt he had any sort of concussion, whether minor or major, I believe they would have pulled him immediately. He made some throws people with concussions do not make i.e. Td throw to Westbrook and the dropped td pass to Mixon.

        • Walter Sobcek says:

          A concussion is simply when the brain makes contact with the skull. and its symptoms can be mild to severe. I don’t doubt that the trainers evaluated him, but a player can suffer a concussion and still perform at a high level, and sometimes not even recall playing. I suspect this is a mild concussion, but, as I said, I was surprised he wasn’t taken out of the game immediately for evaluation.

      • brainpimp says:

        I have to disagree. Bell rung can be anything from concussion to stinger in neck running upward. I know this is splitting hairs but not every bellring is a concussion.

        • Walter Sobcek says:

          Well, technically, a stinger is caused by a stretching of the brachial plexus nerves, which is different from a concussion. Having your “bell rung” is caused by concussive effects of a blow to the head. But yes, we’re splitting “nerves.”

    • Spitting Bull says:

      He looked like he had tears in his eyes after the half. I think it’s because he was really wishing he hadn’t mentioned the headache. He’s a competitor. He wanted in. Just like Mixon on the sideline saying, I’m ok, let me in. What a group we have!

  • SamSooner says:

    One word: NEXT!!!!

    Win that game and OU is Big XII champions.
    Win two more and OU is National Champions.
    Become National Champions and no one is going to care that OU beat TCU 30-29.

    There’s a saying in golf: “No one is going to ask you how, because all they want to know is how many.”

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      Exactly. Anybody that expected us to win them all easily was kidding themselves. That doesn’t happen in today’s college football. On to the next one.

  • Waters says:

    Concussion was loss of conscience. No more.
    It’s possible to be concussed ,play the whole game and not remember who won.
    The second head hit would cause the most damage and thus no contact with any symptoms despite the ability to play.

  • RonBurgundy says:

    I disagree this game helped the Mayfield/Heisman thing. Knocked out hurt his chances. Being knocked out his numbers went south. I think being out and average numbers really gives some a reason not to vote for him. He could have used the yards he should have gotten in the second half.

    • Daddy R says:

      Well, in one half he put up better numbers than the other heisman hopefuls did in a full game yesterday. Elliot, nothing, Henry, nothing. Baker, 167 yds and 2 td’s with no picks, in just 1 half, while showing the nation just how valuable he is to our team. If the other candidates had had a good showing yesterday, then I might agree with you, but since they didnt play well, in a full game, Baker’s half game looks pretty damn good.

  • Gary Jackson says:

    I don’t think Alex Ross cares if he is out there or not. He knows he’s not going to see the field as a RB unless everyone else breaks a leg so he could care less.

    • Daddy R says:

      I just don’t think Ross is very good. Being talented in HS, behind a Jenks O-line nonetheless, can be very misleading. Mixon should be returning kickoffs a la how Peterson did.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    We need one win and we’re in. Boomer. Focus on the pukes. The O line needs to step up in this game.

  • soonerinks says:

    Anyone else bothered about the staff not paying any attention to Baker after he was clearly showing symptoms of a concussion. No one was checking on him on the side lines and they were still calling designed runs. I was afraid the young man was going to get seriously hurt. I was glad to see that he never played the 2nd half. Just kind of bothered me that they seemed to not take the injury seriously.

    • Daddy R says:

      Two trainers were onto the field almost immediately afterwards, and apparently cleared him to keep playing. Concussions dont ALWAYS happen from hits to the head, sometimes it just freaking hurts, and can cause a headache later on. I’m not sure he was, or even is, concussed. I think pulling him was totally precautionary, and, from everything I’ve heard, OU doctors take this stuff VERY seriously. I’m cool with how they handled it..

      • soonerinks says:

        You are probably right but when he immediately grabbed the side of his head after the hit and then when he got up it was obvious that he was very wobbly I thought they would pull him out and go through the concussion protocol. I certainly have no medical knowledge but it bothered me.

        • Waters says:

          I was listening on radio at work.
          If wobbly, he should have been pulled.
          If pulled, we loose.

        • Walter Sobcek says:

          Yeah, surprised he wasn’t taken off the field after that play for evaluation. A doctor, not trainers, should diagnose concussions.

        • brainpimp says:

          Have you ever been hit in the head on a football field? It hurts even when it’s not a concussion.

          No he wasn’t obviously wobbly. He was amazingly stable for taking that hit. He was clear enough to handle the calls that came in and still accurate with his throws.

    • BoomerDave says:

      Stoops said that the doctors were monitoring him on the sidelines immediately following his injury and every time he came off the field in the first half, so you are dead wrong!

      • soonerinks says:

        Maybe so, but every time they showed him on the sidelines there was no one around him or checking on him.

        • BoomerDave says:

          The TV I was watching was showing the game that was going on and not Baker on the sideline full-time. To say that since you didn’t see the staff check on him, that our coaches and medical staff weren’t “paying attention” or “not taking his injury seriously” is a stretch at best.

          • soonerinks says:

            I saw quite a few shots of Baker sitting on the side line all alone and the side line reporter reported that he was sitting there alone and no one on the medical staff was checking on him. Hopefully, he is fine and is ready to go next week.

    • Waters says:

      They were checking on him.
      The symptom was not acting like himself.

    • brainpimp says:

      Simply not true. You are repeating what the TV said. Very first shot showed a staff member in his ear bent over asking him questions.

  • F1at1ined says:

    That Stephen Parker play could become our next Roy Williams superman leap defining play. Knight looked so I’ll prepared. For hearing reports saying he was doing well in Rileys offense so much he was in a battle with Mayfield makes me really wonder if that was ever true or did Baker just ascend as quickly as TK descended. Yes, playcalling was baffling but it’s hard to run with two ailing RBs when the entire defense has no reason to fear the pass. I agree Knight needs different passes called fo succeed, but I don’t want to nerf a gamelan because of the limitations of the backup QB. Pray for Baker to play, and if for some reason he can’t, I would rather see Cody to see how he handles Rileys playbook and leave Knight in his best role of cheerleader.

  • BoomerDave says:

    Jordan, it was TFB that was putting out the info this summer about the “tight” QB race. In fact just a few days before Baker was named the starter, Super K’s “inside source” said it was a close battle between Thomas and Knight with Baker a distant 3rd. Many players who have talked about the QB situation since the season has started have said it was Baker all the way as he was head and shoulders better.

    • Daddy R says:

      Yea, the look on Shep’s face, over and over, after Knights missed throws said it all. They have ZERO faith in TK.

      • Daddy R says:

        Oh, and the shot of Riley screaming “G Damnit!!!” Into his mic on a live shot after TK missed a wide open Perine with running room across the middle on a 3rd and 8.

        • Tboneathome says:

          And Perine shaking his head after that same play.

        • SoonerOracle737 says:

          I saw that shot of LR and the look on his face was at first disgust, and then turned to anger. It really shocked me. I know it was in the heat of the moment, but still… LR knows we have QB depth issues now and he has to find a way to patch it up ASAP.

    • Jordan Esco says:

      Well aware of what TFB was putting out, but always appreciate the reminder.

  • Jake says:

    How much you asking for that bridge?

  • Oscar says:

    I’ve never been, than now, more impressed with Samaje Perine’s ability.

    Jordan, I also am puzzled with much of the play calling. I feel like Lincoln was some what confused on how to attack what TCU was doing.

  • Waters says:

    We should all pray that Baker is symptom free and can play . We loose because TK is our back up.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    A word to the wise, many of us were criticized for making comments about Knight on the game thread last night. So, proceed with caution.

  • SoonerinLondon says:

    Well, as it turns out, if Baker hadn’t transferred to OU, I think Mr. Stoops would be looking for work right now. Wow.

    I love BS and didn’t mean my comment to reflect on him in any way. His coaching changes have been great.

    It is scary, though, to think about where we’d be this year if Baker hadn’t been here. Josh left a real mess.

    Fortunately, we DO have Baker and, after 2 or 3 more games, will have a Lincoln Riley recruit to begin preparing as a backup.

    • George Lowrey says:

      I do believe we must be patient with Lincoln Riley. Our unfortunate quarterback problems didn’t happen over night and they won’t be fixed in the right way quickly either.

    • Oscar says:

      Well, we would have had a 3 way competition with Hansen, Knight, and Thomas, and would have a different QB who would have started all the games and would be comfortable in the system. It may have been Hansen or Thomas.

    • Zack says:

      Yeah and hopefully Kendall will be good, he gets a year on campus to get a leg up on Robison who may be a better prospect.

    • Waters says:

      Agree. TK and CT are Josh recruits. BM saved us from bad QB recruiting.
      We “lose” with TK.

    • BoomerDave says:

      That’s asinine!! Stoops is OU’s coach as long as he wants to be, with or without Baker Mayfield. Geez!

  • KJ1123 says:

    Gameday is going to Stoolwater.

  • RocketCitySooner says:

    Is it possible that TK just cannot run the same game plan that Mayfield can? Could TK be effective with a game plan designed for him? As stated above, TK can’t hit certain passes. Remembering how beat up the OU RBs were, was Riley in a position where he had no choice but try to make a Mayfield out of TK? If Mayfield is out for OSU, can Riley construct a game plan specific to TK’s abilities?

  • JrsySooner says:

    All in all its a win you have to believe that today was a day where everyone struggled in some kind of weird way…. bottom line is we did not lose and two of the top 10 did.. and those two were ahead of us in the polls we can very easily be number five next week… the committee will see we still won without our number one player…. beating Baylor was huge even though Oklahoma State lost to them today if we can beat Oklahoma State we will be in the playoffs so hold on shut your mouth we weren’t expected to be here anyways … the championship is there for us to lose

  • Nick says:

    Even though everything above is true, it continues to baffle me how few of us are talking about the fact that we are ONE win away from a Big XII championship and very likely playoff berth!! Hello??? I can’t even describe how excited I am for the next game(s)! And as some others have already posted, win it all and nobody will even remember this game. How about that 12-7 Bedlam win from the 2000 team? (I had to look that up too, but you get the point). BOOMER!

    • Clint Lenard says:

      You answered your own question in the last sentence. To say nobody remembers in 2015 is false. While the internet existed in 2000, it wasn’t referenced like it is now. People can influence the media via social media with easy to reference stats.

      • Nick says:

        Of course you can find it online, but that is different from actively remembering it. I guess I mean that (almost) every team that won it all has been in close games. You are right about the influence, the only thing that slightly scares me are the ESPN talking heads. But I believe we can express our own influence too. We can make our case on all of the social media too. But we need larger numbers to do so. And that’s why I would love to see more of us moving in that direction.

    • JrsySooner says:

      Like I said people need to shut up I understand where we’re at…. and where everyone expected us to be… let’s sit back and see what the week brings us but there’s a possibility we could be in the playoffs.

    • SamSooner says:

      SOONER!!!!

    • Jordan Esco says:

      You read the open to the post, right?

      • Nick says:

        Yes sir! I was referring to the majority of the comments.
        Btw, since I get a chance to reply to you directly (and I am not a very active poster myself): I love reading your posts, keep up the good work.

  • Clint Lenard says:

    I was one that criticized TK last night, but can’t help but wonder how a kid can go from that Sugar Bowl game to what he showed last night. Some of it has to be development and the play calling for HIM (ie, Riley trying to get him to play like BM). He’s had some good performances over the years, so he’s clearly not as bad as he showed last night.

    • soonerinks says:

      Agree. The game he had at KSU a couple of years ago was excellent.

    • Daddy R says:

      I’m serious about this, even if I take heat for it. And I mentioned it last night too….

      TK is just like a step down version of Tebow (body type and all..). Tebow was great in college, but struggles to adapt and make it in NFL. Knight was good in HS, but has continually struggled to adapt to the college game..

      Let’s Face it. TK is a tebow, but just not as good. Great people, just not so great at their position.

      • Clint Lenard says:

        I can see some of that, but TK single-handily dominated Bama in the SB. It wasn’t the offense, it was him and his choices. Tebow was good, but his offense always made him look superior to the reality…he was average. TK has had some lights out performances and then…games like last night.

        • Daddy R says:

          Tebow had plenty of awesome performances at Florida. Hell, dude even won a freaking NFL playoff game. To even suggest that Tebow is more average than Knight is ludicrous. And I agree, Tebow is average. So what’s that say about TK?

          • Clint Lenard says:

            The point is that both are just average QB’s, and Tebow won because of his team… I remember that game in Denver where his TE (can’t remember his name) caught a 4 yard pass and ran like 50 for a TD and Tebow got credit. LJ has done as much as Tebow and he was considered a bad QB.

            There’s a reason Tebow was taken in the 1st round and people were shocked. But Denver made their money back in jersey sales by the suckers.

        • Boom says:

          If you go back to the SB, we threw 80% of the time on 1st down in uptempo. We made 5 – 9 years per each which kept our 2nd & 3rd downs manageable. Last night, Riley went run, run, and they put Trevor in a tuff situation with 3-10. Riley played to run the clock and it played in the hands of Patterson.

          • brainpimp says:

            No they didn’t. TK missed a bunch of first down throws.

          • Boom says:

            Hey man, I like your stuff and you’re pretty witty. However, if you want to go back and watch the SB, you will see that OU used uptempo quick passes on 1st down. This is what kept the chains moving.
            Regarding last night, there were a couple of drives especially in 4th that went run, run, pass. Lot of other times, it was run, pass, pass. Hardly ever did we throw on 1st down. When we did, we picked up a nice gain.

      • Jordan Esco says:

        I don’t even think that’s a fair comp if for no other reason than Knight is nowhere near the threat on the ground Tebow was.

      • SoonerinLondon says:

        TK is an armless Mayfield.

        • Daddy R says:

          Mayfield has much better running ability than TK. So many more moves and cuts, and almost as quick.

      • Bill Holder says:

        What do you know about his hs career? Check it out, just like he is now…50% at his very best.

    • Defend Colfax says:

      The offense we ran was like making Jason White run the option in 04. He can’t do it and when the pressure was on he cracked.

      • brainpimp says:

        The offense didn’t make him bounce balls to receivers, misread the Read option and overthrow wide open Perine with 20 yards of open space in front of him. That was TK.

        • Defend Colfax says:

          I didn’t say he did good. I’m just throwing some more out there since everyone just wants to pile on.

  • Boom says:

    TK is the lightening rod at this point. Fair enough. If you take your attention off of TK and look at the game you will realize the defense did us no favors in the 2nd half. A wild pass that went for a long TD? I could count numerous other times too. I understand the O didn’t do anything to help the D but the D gave up countless yards. Due to this, how many times did we receive the punt or have them down the ball inside the 10. This in itself limited the play calling and gave TCU all of the advantages.
    Bottom line, it’s one of those wins that you don’t like but we still won. Bet tOSU wished they would’ve won by 1.

    • Clint Lenard says:

      Read the first 2 lines and stopped. The defense wouldn’t have struggled in the second half if they would have gotten some rest. It’s tough to not give up some big plays when you suddenly find yourself given too many defensive ‘chances’.

    • Mizuno44 says:

      The Leader getting hurt made an impact on the whole team,

    • Austin says:

      When you spend the entire second half on the field, you’re gonna give up points. The defense is the only reason we won this game and to criticize them is absolutely ignorant.

      • Clint Lenard says:

        Yep. 3 picks, several sacks, many TFL’s, a stripped ball by Tapper and some key passes defended, including the game winning play… yeah, sounds like the defense really struggled.

        Thinking back: the defense was ON FIRE last night, but the offense hurt their overall stats by forcing them to play more than they should have.

        • Boom says:

          3 turnovers were in the 1st half. I never said the D didn’t play well. They gave up some things they haven’t done all year in the second half. The second half was just a weird half of football.

    • Daddy R says:

      I agree. Defense, and the whole team for that matter, decided the second half, we would come out, and “TRY NOT TO LOSE.” That normally doesnt work out so well, and almost didnt last night. But, in the end, it did work! Just about gave us all a heart attack in the meantime.

      But the to Defense’s defense, they were on the field nearly the ENTIRE second half. They were sooo gassed it was unreal.

      • Boom says:

        I agree with you and I do think the D played OK. However, when we gave up that 70 yard TD, things started slipping. It was just a weird game as we haven’t given up those kind of plays all year.

  • Defend Colfax says:

    The coaches were not ready for the second half.

  • Zack says:

    Should we expect any booms this afternoon? I see that SS posted some notes according to Twitter.

  • j l says:

    Survive and advance boys, survive and advance. We probably win by 20+ if mayfield had been able to finish, so lets not freak out too much.

    Just happy to be top 5(probably), going into the final game of the season. Even if we dont make the playoffs, this season will be a huge success. Extremely proud of the improvement shown throughout the year.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Jordan Thomas was blown up last night, and that’s concerning for next week.

    • Brad Warren says:

      Now that is truly comical! JT was blown up? Holy cow, that’s asinine!

    • Zack says:

      He got beat once badly and the other time was a really good throw. The guy he was covering is maybe the fastest receiver in the nation.

      • Jordan Esco says:

        He definitely not beat more than once. Which is fine, no CB is going to succeed 100% of the time.

    • Clint Lenard says:

      He did have a few bad plays, but other than that I wouldn’t say he was “blown up”. After last week I was surprised to see him get beat those few times, but I’m not as worried against OSU.

    • Mizuno44 says:

      Instead of replying to everyone, JT is a great corner, but didn’t have a great game. There were many instances his receiver was open, next week that would be exploited by a better QB. It’s not the end of the world, it’s like a flash mob on here sometimes.

  • Jerry Reid says:

    I feel like if you just put a finger on Alex Ross he feels like he needs to go down.

  • Chris White says:

    Ladies and Gentlemen we won last night. Preseason everyone had their doubts about this team and looking at the schedule no one predicted us to be 10-1 at this point with a Big XII championship and college game day in Stoolwater for Bedlam. I’m not bashing anyone because we clearly saw a lost team that truly needed a spark (unfortunately as usual they got no help from us fans) so let’s for once try a different approach. Let’s stand by them, congratulate them, motivate them and pray for them! We are a spoiled fan base with the tradition and consistency we have at OU so we should appreciate it. Trust me I was saying bad things about Trevor last night but I woke up today as a Sooner and a winner. The team will be fine as they have been all season but let’s all do our part and move on and get ready for the Pokes!,

  • SoonerOracle737 says:

    We need a quality juco QB backup on campus in January to address our depth issue at the position. Painfully obvious now.

    • Defend Colfax says:

      That Justice Hansen looks good.

    • Zack says:

      We’re not taking any jucos at qb unless something happens to our commits.

      • SoonerOracle737 says:

        If I had a choice, I’d rather take a QB who has already graduated and has some eligibility left who can play immediately if necessary versus a juco QB.

        • Zack says:

          Why it’s possible mayfield plays 2 more years? I think he gets his year back because the ncaa needs stars at big schools. I get that knight and Thomas don’t appear to be capable back ups but I think last night was more of an unusual appearance by knight, he’s been better than that and we all know that. Even his bad games last year were better than the 2nd half last night. I think he was nervous more than anything.

          • SoonerOracle737 says:

            My opinion isn’t based upon one game, but the whole body of work so far. The inconsistency and not having the ability to read the defense post snap cripples our offense. I think we need to find someone with a year or so of eligibility to carry the proverbial clipboard for Baker.

          • Recondo says:

            That guy is probably Austin Kendall. As long as Baker stays healthy next year he can refshirt and learn before grabbing the reins.

          • brainpimp says:

            1 guy. No. that’s a recipe for disaster.

          • Dick Bump says:

            I would like to see Baker get his year back, because I think he was screwed in the process. Ridiculous decision by the NCAA. I lost a little confidence in TK9 last night’s ugly performance and I’ve been rooting for him. If Baker stays healthy, we’ll be OK. Great defense under the circumstances.

          • Zack says:

            All I’m saying is if knight has to start at bedlam we will see a better performance. Not sure if that means a win but at least not on life support.

          • Shelby is a Patriot says:

            I agree with that. I think with more preparation Knight would play a lot better.

          • brainpimp says:

            You can prep for the next 10 years, it won’t fix 8000mph screens and balls bounced to receivers.

          • Shelby is a Patriot says:

            It’s not like he’s never had a good game in his life, so maybe you can’t fix it in the long term, but clearly you can for at least one game.

          • Dick Bump says:

            I think so too. I was surprised at how ineffective the offense was in the second half. I thought those days were gone.

          • brainpimp says:

            is it possible to play worse?

          • Bill Holder says:

            Just the thought of TK starting at osu gives me a knot in my gut. We have zero chance with him.

          • Scott says:

            Thomas will be fine , he can play we shouldn’t forget about the walk on QB

        • SoonerfanTU says:

          lol, those guys don’t transfer to schools to be backups.

    • Recondo says:

      QB will be fine. TK looked BAD but let’s keep a couple things in mind. First, a season of starting has broadened the gap between QB1 & QB2 and probably caused TK’s skills to deteriorate a bit (i.e. game speed). Second, TK was recruited for a completely different offense. As LR gets his guys on campus depth will come. I think Cody Thomas and Justice Hansen should give us a nice foundation for the future.

      • SoonerOracle737 says:

        Uh, Hansen transferred to Butler CC. We have no depth at QB if CT can’t crack the depth chart.

        • Recondo says:

          Don’t know how I forgot that. I guess because I liked him. CT still has a couple years left and I think he has the tools to succeed. Baker will be back next year. We have Austin Kendall coming to OU and he is very highly rated. I still think we’re in good shape so long as Baker can finish this season.

          • George Lowrey says:

            I hope you are right. I am dismayed, however, that we have quarterbacks who win the Heisman recently and so little depth at quarterback in the last three years. I wonder if Trevor would feel better if the coaches approached him about playing another position, receiver or defensive back perhaps. He’s a wonderful guy but nobody could take all the criticism and not be adversely affected.

          • Boom says:

            This is not to take up for TK but for QB’s in general. When you put your QB in a predictable situation and put him in 3rd and longs, not very many do well, not even in the pros. Going run, run, pass for a long conversion will make you look horrible.

          • George Lowrey says:

            Good point…

          • brainpimp says:

            But we didn’t go run run pass. We went incomplete, thrown in the ground, run into a stacked line, throw the ball off the defenders hands.

            Or run, throw into the third row, throw an 8000mph screen pass.

          • SoonerfanTU says:

            Will you please stop suggesting this? Knight isn’t built to play any position other than QB. WR? DB? He would be awful in both of those roles. Terrible. He is a QB, and he has proven in the past that he is at least adequate enough to be a backup. He had a bad half last night. Stop turning it into something it isn’t.

          • George Lowrey says:

            How do you know he cannot play any other position?

          • brainpimp says:

            It wasn’t just bad.

          • Bill Holder says:

            Just make him head sideline cheer leader and leave him there. Great team mate, terrible Qb .

          • brainpimp says:

            Very very good chance CT transfers this spring. We have no depth.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      No, we don’t.

  • Recondo says:

    Just a few of my thoughts here. This was a dangerous let down game after the BU win and it showed when we lost our offensive leadership. Yes Baker’s % was down but he still had the O on pace for 45+ points. The D looked good until quarter 4 when the front 7 appeared exhausted. A half of 3 and outs can do that to team. LR admitted to calling a horrible 2nd half but that does not completely excuse Knight’s terrible execution. I agree with some of you the injuries cost us a 20 pt win but we still got the W on a Saturday nobody looked particularly good. Sanchez may bite on doubles but he had a great game; 2 INTs, a shot at a 3rd, a nice 3rd down stop, and recovered the onside kick. He did give up the last TCU TD. With the Baylor hangover done, a bad performance this week should get this team refocused for Bedlam. I think these young men play like rock stars next week.

  • soonermusic says:

    An ugly win is better than a “good” loss. As I tried to point out before the game, TCU didn’t just accidentally win all their games last year except Baylor, and all their games this year except OSU. Patterson knows what he’s doing and you have to have well coached depth to do all that.

    • SoonerOracle737 says:

      Yes, agree totally. But our offensive coaching staff needs to know how to adjust to heavy blitzing on majority of plays. It disrupted Baker and totally derailed TK9. OSU just received the game plan to attack us, unfortunately.

      • j l says:

        OSU gave up 700 yards to both TCU and baylor. We held baylor to 415 and TCU under 400.

        As long as mayfield plays, i think they need to worry about letting our offense get 700 too.

        • SoonerOracle737 says:

          I think our team at full strength beats OSU at full strength, but will we be full strength? I fully think OSU is going to blitz us heavily like TCU did to disrupt our timing and to confuse and expose our Oline. Their defensive coach is aggressive too, so no doubt it’s coming.

          • j l says:

            Thats been everyones recipe since the tennessee game, and its still only worked for texas =)

            Doing so has also allowed us to run for 300+ on average the last 7 games. Cant blitz the QB heavily and cover all the running lanes too.

      • RBear says:

        osu doesn’t have the personnel

  • OceanDescender says:

    This game would’ve been a lot different if 1) that TCU linebacker knew how to tackle legally and 2) if Seibert hadn’t taken a knee on one of his punts. Would’ve been a lot more than a one-point victory. But OU got the W and that’s all that counts for me.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    It’s worth mentioning this post’s author is probably as critical, perhaps more, than many of us added up. Many of you criticizing the criticizers need to look no further than the verbiage contained in “Deep Thoughts, I mean, Some Thouhhts on OU vs TCU”

  • KatyOUdad says:

    Looks like Paul Rhoades out at Iowa State.

    • paganpink says:

      That comeback loss to K State did him in. I thought Iowa State was doing better this season, though.

      • brainpimp says:

        That was one of the ugliest finishes in the history of college football. 3 fumbles in the last 3 minutes of a game.

    • Pokerman says:

      That’s unfortunate. Rhoades is a good coach and probably better than anyone they can get to replace him. Not to mention he bleeds Iowa State blood.

  • soonermusic says:

    Re: TK He looked terrible. He was obviously pressing, and tight, and rusty, and appeared to me to be trying to show that he could play like Baker instead of just being himself.

    Having said that, Baker was struggling some against this defense, with vastly more experience. Also, do not discount the fact that Patterson is clearly capable of making half time adjustments to make it even more difficult. I thought that Riley went the wrong direction in that he ended up making the offense more predictable in the second half which made it immeasurably harder for TK to get going. I disagree with those who still stick to the notion that TK is better rolling out. There never was any evidence for that. His best games and best throws have predominantly come from the pocket. But he kept having to make third and long.

    Receivers not named Shep were having trouble getting open all game. Even Bob commented that they needed to get guys open. That didn’t help. I suspect that TK is still a much better qb than he appeared last night. But it was a very poor outing to say the least.

    • Boom says:

      TK did not play well but putting any QB in 3rd and longs don’t help either. Also, early TK threw a dart to Mead and the ball hit him square between the numbers. Unfortunately, Mead’s hands were to wide and it went through them and hit the numbers. That was for a 1st down. Neither QB looked good last night but I give the credit to Patterson.

  • Himself says:

    I have one question…is Cody Thomas worse than TK?

  • Sooner Ray says:

    OU #5 behind ND in coaches poll. Waiting on the Tuesday surprise now.

    • Recondo says:

      That means we’ll be #6 in the CFP. ND’s win was much worse than ours.

      • Gary Robbins says:

        Last week I predicted #7 after Baylor win, #5 after TCU win and #4 after OSU win this next Saturday. The committee keeps us at #5 this Tuesday which guarantees interest, controversy, etc. I hope the football team uses that song “takin care of business” as their mantra this week.

        • Pokerman says:

          … and back to #7 after Dec 5 bye week.

        • SPRIGGS says:

          I sure hope so… What would be frustrating, is if ND gets into the final 4 and lays an egg, while OU destroys who they get in a bowl game and becomes last year’s TCU. Smh

    • j l says:

      Only 9 points behind ND, not too shabby.

  • soonermusic says:

    Perine for the Heisman! Was he unbelievable again, or what?!

  • Waters says:

    We need a juco QB to back up BM.

  • soonermusic says:

    Imho, the defense won this game for us. To be able to hang in there and come up with so many key plays, especially with zero support from the offense in the second have was remarkable.

  • soonermusic says:

    Zack Sanchez was hugely responsible for this win as well. His interceptions were crucial, not to mention several important breakups/near interceptions and a couple of very timely key tackles, and his sure handed play on the onside kick iced the game.

    • Shelby is a Patriot says:

      I liked what he said here:

      On winning close games:

      “It’s relieving. I’m still a little pissed off right now but we lost a lot of them that were close last year. This year it seems like we’re winning them. The luck is on our side or the Sooner Magic is on our side this year. It just comes with the tremendous amount of work we put in the offseason. The attitude of this defense and this whole team as a whole is that we’re going to fight for 60 minutes. You’re going to have to kill us to beat us.”

  • paganpink says:

    We’ll get plenty of attention with Gameday being in Stillwater. I hope and believe Baker is alright and we blow up the Cowboys!

  • j l says:

    Going to be tough to leave a team with 2 gameday road wins vs top 10 teams out of the playoffs.

    • Chris White says:

      Tuesday’s rankings are very important, if OSU stays in the top 10 and OU moves to maybe No. 5 then we very well may have a shot

      • j l says:

        I believe both will be true. At worst, MSU might jump us to put us 6th, but that will work itself out when they face iowa.

        OSU should be 10th. The only team that might pass them, from looking at the coaches poll, is UNC, who has gotten no respect from the committee yet.

      • Mizuno44 says:

        Notre Dame will have their hands full on the road at Stanford

  • Chris White says:

    Thinking way ahead but what young guy do you think gets a chance to start next year for Durron and Shepard? Maybe Michiah Quick gets a shot?? I know John Humphries is thought highly of as well. Also who starts at Center? Maybe Alvarez and put Frison on guard? (That’s a massive O-line) I think we still have Alex Dalton too

    • Mizuno44 says:

      Excited to also see Dahu Green’s ability

    • Josh says:

      Don’t forget Bobby Evans. JY had him as his best incoming OT. Knee will be well and 20 months of working in S&C program. So much young talent on this oline.

      • Boom says:

        With the conservative play calling in 2nd half, this really played well in Patterson’s hands. I was hoping we would run more quick passes on 1st down to give us a better chance.

        • soonermusic says:

          “played well in Patterson’s hands” totally agree.

        • Josh says:

          I was definitely worried about the Gary Patterson effect all week. The man even said he holds things back for this game and last year after the game ou coaches admitted they saw things they weren’t ready for. He took Lincoln to school last night. Way too much zone read last night. Baker kept pulling when he shouldn’t and Trevor wouldn’t pull it when it was wide open, not that that’s new lol.

      • Boom says:

        You keep up with B Evans? If so, after 20 months of S&C, how much is the big man weighing? I think he will be our RT next year. Lot of RS OL this year.

        • Josh says:

          Not too much anymore besides swapping tweets every now and then. I’ll try to catch up with him and get back to you.

    • SoonerinLondon says:

      I think the line will be Brown, Samia, Alverez, Dalton, Frison.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      I think they will open it up, and see who wins the jobs. Probably no favorites at this point, as nobody has really stepped up. Somebody will, I think, but I don’t know who. Really wish we could land a stud WR to come in and start from day 1, but that seems unlikely at this point.

  • PLAW0720 says:

    1) Patterson is a great coach and with equal talent will whip virtually anybody.
    2) I really think that OU should look into hypnosis or other psychological training for Trevor.. We have heard forever how awesome he is in practice, but when the lights come on, he either has extreme anxiety or a major case of butterflies. Need to get between the ears to have practice translate to the game.
    3). Trevor’s throwing mechanics seemed really off last night.
    4) what will it take to get Zeus Brown to stop committing stupid personal fouls. For that matter, I was really embarrassed by the cheap shots by the OU players. That’s not playing like a champion.

    Boomer

    • Pokerman says:

      I think Heupel’s system really messed with TK’s mind. We should probably be glad that Mayfield wasn’t allowed to play last year. Otherwise, Heupel might have messed him up too.

    • soonermusic says:

      I think the second half play calling had a lot to do with it as well as the defense. Even Baker who is easily 70% completion was under 50%, and he’s solid and improving all the time. Read riley’s post game comments about TK for more.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Even though we technically don’t have a conference championship, turns out that’s exactly what Saturday could be for us

  • SoonerinLondon says:

    BS has won at least ten games 13 of 17 years…not too shabby.

  • soonermusic says:

    Just saw the post game quotes from Riley, which sums up exactly what I was trying to say about the second half O and the TK situation:
    “We weren’t aggressive enough. We got away from who we are offensively. That’s my fault. That can’t happen. We were playing so well defensively. I felt like we had the game under control for a while. We got away from that,and me doing that took away from our kids playing football. It’s unfair of me to ask them to play one way and me not bring that same approach. I brought them down by doing that. I can’t do that.”

    I think it bodes very well, that Riley is able to make these assessments and, of course, that he agrees with me. Just kidding about the last part, but he appears to be willing to step up and accurately evaluate things, which is terrific.

    • EasTex says:

      I saw that too and it would appear few here did.

      • Hotrod33 says:

        I didn’t see what he said. He is taking responsibility for what happen and realizes that. Hopefully he will not make the same mistake again. I like his approach for not blaming the kids for what happened. You don’t see that from coaches very often anymore.

    • Waters says:

      Riley always takes the blame. He blamed himself for the ut game..
      Riley is partly at fault but he didn’ throw the interception,
      stumble, not hit open receivers, lock in on the primary receiver.

    • Prof27 says:

      I love the fact that Riley is willing to take the blame to shield Knight from criticism. And it’s true that his play calling became increasingly defensive and predictable, but Trevor played so poorly he didn’t have a lot of choice, imo.

    • ohiosoonerdevildog says:

      Yeah at least we didn’t hear the normal they didn’t execute coach speak. Have to admire a coach who owns up to his mistakes.

    • Bill Holder says:

      It’s refreshing to have a coach take the blame instead of throwing players under the bus.

  • Waters says:

    This years season and goals rests on BM health to play
    and ability to avoid injury using his feet to avoid sacks and run.
    I am not optimistic. BM will become even more of a target.
    No BM equals osu win.
    We should not be in this predicament. Who is responsible?

  • Scott says:

    OU easily blows out TCU with Mayfield in the game , as for the defense they played great in the first half besides the 2 plays to Listenbee. In the second half the defense was on the field the whole time and had no help from trevor knight.

    • Oscar says:

      I think Lincoln should allow Trevor to take most snaps this week. Rest Baker, get back up ready. (more ready)

      • brainpimp says:

        Sure make sure that Baker isn’t sharp for the game, makes sense.

        • Oscar says:

          Well, dependent on Baker’s health.

        • Oscar says:

          Have to find balance and a way to getting everyone prepared. Esco-“Was told Mayfield prepares with such a degree of intensity and detail that can make it hard for others to get many simulated live reps in practice. One source said, “that’s probably a good place to start looking” when trying to understand how Knight could have regressed so much.”

  • Scott says:

    Things OU needs to improve on this week.: For the offense , The OLine needs to play better and be more nasty. I’m sick and tired of all these stupid penalties , they need to play smarter. Have Cody Thomas ready for the game if BM isn’t starting. Coach Riley will need to gameplan better for OSU , I had a feeling during the 1st half that they were catering to all the Heisman hype for Baker and forcing too much on him.

    • Josh says:

      I think Baker was forcing a lot of that on himself. Pulled it on zone reads when he should have given it up and was throwing on run/pass option plays when run was open. Plus GP had him and Lincoln a little confused imo.

      • brainpimp says:

        Bingo! Dead on.

      • EasTex says:

        Allwarfare is based on deception.
        Hence, when able to attack, we must seem
        unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive;
        when we are near, we must make the enemy
        believe we are far away; when far away, we must
        make him believe we are near.
        ~Sun Tzu

      • SoonerOracle737 says:

        I thought BM was trying to do too much by himself. I hope he didn’t do that trying to live up to the Heisman hype machine the school started. He would be only human not to get caught up in it though.

      • Scott says:

        Very True , lets get ready to blow out Puke St and get to the playoff.

    • Oscar says:

      That Westbrook penalty was a really stupid move by him. At HATE it when players make us look dirty.

  • soonermusic says:

    If Riley had come out with an aggressive, the score is zero to zero, mentality at half time, the second half could very well have turned out differently. I’m confident that Baker will be back, but if TK has to play against OSU, I would expect to see a completely different level of play.

  • soonermusic says:

    Had to watch delayed which meant the tv announcers. I wonder if they have as much trouble with the names of the opposing team’s players as they do with ours.

  • soonerinks says:

    Paul Rhoades fired at Iowa State. IMO, a huge mistake.

  • leatherneck1061 says:

    I love what Lincoln Riley has done here, but what the bleep was that. It seemed like every time Perine touched the ball he was gashing them for 7 and 8 yards – the run game was clearly the only thing working – yet Riley would call 1 run play and 2-3 pass plays. This is where the whole concept of passing to set up the run can drive me absolutely up a wall. We got some of the same stuff from Heupel last year. It’s like these guys got an itch they just have to scratch.

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      Well, they were stopping the run at times. Have to loosen them up. My issue is that we have Mixon, Brooks, and Perine one on one in the flat and we are not getting the ball out there. Jones use to devastate people by getting it to Murray out there. Other than that, LR has us scoring the 3rd most points in college football.

      • leatherneck1061 says:

        No doubt LR has done an awesome job this year. I’m really just referring to last night. It seemed to just keep happening. So much of the time the run game looked unstoppable, yet we would run it once and then start tossing the ball around and lose yards. It’s a miracle I have any hair left this morning.

    • soonermusic says:

      I think you may be underestimating Patterson’s defense. One thing Riley did was generate over 500 yards of offense, again. Any hint of predictability, see the second half, and this offense becomes much less effective.

      • leatherneck1061 says:

        Actually you’re helping to make my point. Patterson is a defensive wizard, no doubt. But it is his secondary that has shown marked improvement, and that is a big part of why the passing opportunities just weren’t there as much. Meanwhile we were having our way with them up front running the ball. In that circumstance, why would you not keep hammering at them where they’re weak until they find a way to stop you?

        • EasTex says:

          In the 4th qtr the run was getting shut down pretty good, the toadies were selling out to stop it, the very time the passing game should be effective.

          • leatherneck1061 says:

            Yeah I’m referring primarily to the 1st half. Seemed like he was determined to make the pass work when it was the run that was having tremendous success. By the 4th qtr, they were able to sell out to stop the run, because they saw TK just wasn’t able to hurt them through the air.

          • EasTex says:

            The numbers tell the QB to run or pass. The reads the toadies were giving Baker were….deceptive.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Did anyone else get nervous when TK was throwing those balls in the flat?

  • soonermusic says:

    Hard for me to criticize Patterson’s aggressive 2 point call. If Mike et al, don’t dial up the exact correct alignment, if an exhausted defense, clearly on its heels, makes any error in alignment or coverage, and if Parker doesn’t make a fantastic, perhaps legendary play, GP is a hero instead of a goat.

    • EasTex says:

      I wouldn’t have, but I will never criticize some one for trying to win.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      Agreed. As an OU fan at the game, I was hoping they wouldn’t go for two, b/c I thought they’d be able to convert, and the game would essentially be over.

    • soonerinks says:

      Agree, our D-Line was gassed at that point and I thought they would convert. Great play by Parker cause the receiver was wide open. I do believe TCU would probably have won in OT as our offense was offensive at that point.

      • soonermusic says:

        I actually think Patterson, if anything,was far more worried about giving our defense a chance to recover for OT than anything our ineffective offense might do.

    • Oscar says:

      “No guts, no glory”

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    5th in Coaches Poll…does it influence the CFP Committee? All other National pundits say we should be 4th!

    • leatherneck1061 says:

      So who do they have at 4? Are they actually leaving ND at 4 after they $&#! the bed like that?

    • Birddawg says:

      Nothing will change.
      1) Clemson
      2) bama
      3) ND
      4)Iowa
      5) Mst
      6) OU

      Big10 is adored.. That trend will continue

      • D Hunter Sanchez says:

        6th? MSU was not impressive in that win. That would be unfair.

        • Birddawg says:

          CFP is securing a spot for the big 10. They are going to position Mst high enough to get in.

          • D Hunter Sanchez says:

            If we go 11-1, Big 12 champs and would have beaten three straight top 20 teams including two top 10’s on the road, we get in.

          • leatherneck1061 says:

            I think we have a decent chance of getting in, but it will likely be after the B10 championship has been settled and the losers eliminated. In the meantime, this committee could very well put both MSU and Iowa ahead of us. Not saying it will definitely happen, just saying this committee seems to be demanding we win out before they will even consider us.

          • Fear The Magic says:

            but but but…what about Texas?

        • leatherneck1061 says:

          Unfair but still very possible. This committee just doesn’t favor the Big 12 at all. After the way MSU exposed their pet buckeyes, who they’ve been carrying the water for all year, it almost seems like they have to put Sparty in the top 4 if for no other reason than to save face.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    We’re experiencing something very rare with Mayfield, the kid deserves to be able to finish what he started this year. He’s been through a lot to make it this far, so our prayers will be for his recovery and the opportunity to pursue his goals.

  • Scott says:

    I cant wait for Chanse Sylvie , that stud will be a star and name to remember.

  • leatherneck1061 says:

    I was at least a little surprised with GP’s decision to go for 2. I’m actually a little relieved. Before he decided to go for the 2, I felt almost certain they were going to beat us in OT. They had all the momentum at that point, and our offense was really struggling. Thanks Gary!

  • leatherneck1061 says:

    ICYMI: Guess Bedlam will be on the big stage after all!

    http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/

  • Walter Sobcek says:

    Gary Patterson may be a good coach, but I don’t like the way he goes ape $%% crazy on the sidelines. Bit cartoonish. Stoops gets irate at times, but he keeps it mostly under control.

  • leatherneck1061 says:

    Was reading Heather Dinich, and she pointed this out:

    “Notre Dame’s best wins are against Temple, Navy and Pitt.”

    If that doesn’t put ND’s accomplishments, or rather lack thereof, in pretty clear perspective, then I’d sure like to know what would.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    GAME DAY AT BEDLAM!

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    If the Committee has us less than 5th I am calling straight bias.

  • Glocal Sooner says:

    I’ll stick with your opening theme and take a minute to give some praise. Yes, Mayfield has been a HUGE difference maker not only for the offense but for the whole team, hopefully we can find a replacement after next year to do the same.

    People have been so quick to throw Bob Stoops under the bus in recent years so let’s give credit where credit is due. As Jordan said, after last season, with all the coaching changes, did we really think (not hope but think) OU would be in this position at the end the season?

    Bob Stoops: Huge praise for noticing the need to make some coaching changes. Many were scratching their heads after the changes but it sure seems like he knew what he was doing.

    Lincoln Riley (and other offensive staff): Huge praise for bringing life back to this offense and making it a national power once again. Great job balancing the run/pass game.

    Mike Stoops: Huge praise for moving to the booth (whether he wanted to or not) and getting this defense dominant again.

    Diron Reynolds: Huge praise for taking the great players Monty recruited and turning them into one of the most dominant DLines in the country.

    Tim Kish: Never gets enough credit for the job he does with the LB’s. They’re solid.

    Kerry Cooks/Chip Viney: HUGE praise for taking our weakest link on defense and turning them into an absolute asset. Unbelievable what a new coach can do in one year.

    Love the direction we’re headed regardless of what happens in Stillwater.
    *Still no clue what happened vs Texas and now puzzled more than ever who was playing QB during the Sugar Bowl.

    • BoomerDave says:

      I could be wrong, but I don’t think Monty recruited any of the guys that are really contributing on the DL this season. Overton, but who else?

      • Glocal Sooner says:

        I just said that but you may be right. He was with OU 2013 and 2014. Our 2013 recruiting class was: Romar, Dimon, Walker, Ward. Our 2014 class was: Garnett, Glenn, Orso. 2015 was: Gallimore, Overton, Campbell and Mann.
        So if he wasn’t here to help finish off the 2013 class then you’re right.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Seeing Baker this year, does anyone really think he won’t play in Bedlam? If the only symptom was a headache, that’ll be gone. Gameday, Big 12 title, Playoff berth…

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      It’s not his call. The team docs will follow concussion protocol.

      • D Hunter Sanchez says:

        I don’t think he has been officially declared as suffering a concussion. Correct? Or did I miss an official post?

        • SoonerfanTU says:

          Nothing is official either way yet. I’m sure he is still being evaluated today. Concussions aren’t always easily diagnosed. Personally, I don’t think it was a concussion and I think he’ll be cleared tomorrow and will play on Saturday. Just saying, it is out of Baker’s hands at this point. They will evaluate and tell HIM if he can play or not.

        • Mizuno44 says:

          Hopefully something that needs only Tylenol

        • Glocal Sooner says:

          I felt that all of the reports during the game and Stoops comments after were very careful to not say one way or the other. What I got out of what was said was: Got hit in the head. Was evaluated throughout the game. Seemed to pass the tests. Admitted a headache during halftime so was benched for precaution. That seems to me like he passed the concussion protocol unless he was lying initially. However, they chose to be safe and not let him return. In that case, he should be fine to play Saturday unless it’s revealed that he lied and really did have a concussion. I’d have a headache too after that hit!!!

          • blaster1371 says:

            There are some tests they will run probably today. I know some are computer based with data collected before the season starts to get a base line for comparison. Well, I saw “I know” but I really don’t know what OU does just what I’ve seen our high school do which I take as something like what the big boys do.

        • Mizuno44 says:

          That nitwit hit Baker like he was competing for the rights to mate with a really, hot, female Ram

        • blaster1371 says:

          You’re correct. Side line reporter said he was “held out as a precaution”. the times ove seen a player with a concussion in CFB they keep a team doctor with them the whole game in case it gets worse. I didn’t see that except at the very end of the game.

      • Birddawg says:

        He will be back on the field Saturday

      • Slim Sooner says:

        Baker looked so angry they wouldn’t let him play second half. Do believe he will be back for Bedlam, but hopefully no more head butts. Kid that hit him didn’t even argue about the target call, kind of like “Did my job. See ya!”

    • Recondo says:

      He will complete the concussion protocol so we won’t know anything until very late in the week but if that was his only symptom there is room for optimism.

    • Bill Holder says:

      He will play if they don’t lock him in a shed. He’s a competitor .

  • Dustin says:

    For the record, I DID truly believe we would be in this position. I’m actually disappointed because I thought we would be 11-0 heading into Bedlam. I predicted 14-0. If I’m off by one game, I’ll take it. Save the 14-0 for next season.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Question: where were Neal, Andrews, and Quick last night? I mean, step up people.

    • Birddawg says:

      It’s not a coincidence that teams all year were game planing to take Perine and mixon out of the game and then the moment baker starts getting real heisman hype. Patterson goes into planning to take baker out and the run game opened.

      Limited time to practice. Frogs practiced against taking baker out.
      We need to start getting more creative in the run game.

    • DCinAZ says:

      Quick and Andrews were in the game. Neal did his every other game disappearing act. Baxter should have been replaced several games ago. Quick hasn’t done much of anything anywhere. I don’t get what’s wrong with the WR corp. Either we have a severe talent problem, or they’re lazy and not giving much effort.

  • Glocal Sooner says:

    Really appreciated how Riley threw himself under the bus in the postgame for his play calling rather than throwing the offense or a player under the bus. So refreshing. Such a difference from previous years.

    • Mizuno44 says:

      Or the players going rogue, aka, Buckeye dissention

    • Cush Creekmont says:

      Yes. I appreciate the honesty – Yet he said the same thing last week about the missed opportunity possessions against Baylor. If he knows it, I sure hope he learns from it and does not need to say it again after oswho.

  • Indy_sooner says:

    We’re never truly as bad as we seem and not as good as we thought we are. Better to be bad going into OSU. We didn’t seem to respond well to adversity, but the in all, a win is a win

  • SoonerOracle737 says:

    Must be nice to roll out a 3rd string QB and light up a top ten team on the road like Baylor did. That kid has some talent and it wouldn’t surprise me to see him beat out Stidham for the job. I wish we had that kind of depth at QB.

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    I was hoping to see at least a couple Denzels today

  • Birddawg says:

    Teams are going to start to taking baker out of the game. Forcing our Oline to run the ball consistently. Need to spend more time of our limited time getting more creative in the run game.

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      His running is a big weapon. However, I’d like Riley to get Baker to dump the ball to Mixon more often.

      • Glocal Sooner says:

        I keep having visions of Bradford on the swing pass to Murray going for 1st downs or TD’s every time!!! We need some more of that. I’ve noticed, Mayfield usually has Mixon or Perine open initially in the flat but he looks downfield too long and then it’s covered. Makes you really appreciate Bradford’s ability to read the defense before the snap and know what’s going to be open.

        • D Hunter Sanchez says:

          Well, Baker can get it down next Spring. If not this week.

        • Fear The Magic says:

          Ive noticed that too. I cant tell you how many times Ive yelled at my tv set “Mixon (or Perine ) is wide open in the flat!!”

  • Mizuno44 says:

    They should require the committee meetings to be public

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      Exactly. Or a list of 10 or so principles to follow. Further, they never answer whether they think a bas loss outweighs a good win. What is there criteria for deciding a question like this?

      • Recondo says:

        The problem is they were allowed to make uo their own rules as they go. A different body should develop criteria and deliberations should be public at a minimum.

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      Here are the stated criteria:

      Championships won
      Strength of schedule
      Head-to-head competition (if it occurred)
      Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory)

      Other relevant factors such as key injuries that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.

      Following are the point persons for 2015-16:
      American – Tom Osborne and Condoleezza Rice
      Atlantic Coast – Barry Alvarez and Tom Osborne
      Big Ten – Dan Radakovich and Steve Wieberg
      Big 12 – Condoleezza Rice and Bobby Johnson
      Conference USA – Mike Gould and Tyrone Willingham
      Mid-American – Mike Tranghese and Kirby Hocutt
      Mountain West – Tom Jernstedt and Dan Radakovich
      Pac-12 – Steve Wieberg and Kirby Hocutt
      Southeastern – Tyrone Willingham and Mike Tranghese
      Sun Belt – Bobby Johnson and Barry Alvarez
      Independents – Tom Jernstedt and Mike Gould

    • Birddawg says:

      Any transparency is needed.

      The bubbling idiot rhetoric talk has to stop.

      • Recondo says:

        We had transparency. It was called the BCS. The commissioners and NCAA couldn’t control the computers so they came uo with a self-governing body that meets in secret.

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      What pisses me off is I think they put too much emphasis on the week to week performance. OU controlled TCU…until and injury to our QB. We beat a top 20 team with their back up in and out back up in.

      • Stephen says:

        To be fair, TCU is a much better team than #18. Really not sure how they went from a top 10 team to a back end top 25 team

        • Defend Colfax says:

          Had to make room for Memphis and Ole Miss to make the SEC look good.

        • Stephen Dale says:

          CFB bias……………………..

        • Super Keith says:

          It’s how they can justify not moving the Big XII up. “Well, yeah, OU beat TCU, but they were only ranked 18”. Meanwhile, they put USC back in the top 25 to justify ranking Notre Dame so high (since they beat the Trojans) and USC goes on to lay another egg. It’s absolutely ridiculous.

          • D Hunter Sanchez says:

            Yep. IMHO, this committee is as bad as the BCS, except that the BCS bias wasn’t as apparent.

        • SCKSChief says:

          Because they’re in the B12

  • Recondo says:

    #1 if looked at objectively, gents.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Anyone in Norman have news on Baker? Make a call please.

  • Birddawg says:

    Tidbit: Iowa combined opponents record is 50-71.. Which is the worse out of the top 15

    • Glocal Sooner says:

      Yeah, it’s no secret they haven’t played anyone yet. Gotta hope Nebraska stuns them and then they win the B1G championship game.

  • Exiled In Ohio says:

    Any official word on Chip being hired? I know we were told that there was some “handshake” in place, but I haven’t heard any update in several months.

  • Glocal Sooner says:

    Some updates on the open post, fyi…

  • SPRIGGS says:

    The common opponent logic in favor of ND is such trash. Anytime a talking head in favor of ND, needs a reason to put ND over OU, they throw out the ol, “Well, that terrible loss to Texas, a common opponent ND blew out… etc.” It just doesn’t/shouldn’t even be a factor anymore. It’s quite obvious that OU did not come to play that Saturday and got beat. If OU plays to their full potential, it isn’t even a game. You know who else embarrassed Texas? Most of the Big XII! Which btw OU has beaten most of. I’m sorry, but I’ve gotta vent, because I continue to hear it every single week!!

    • Zack says:

      By that same logic didn’t ole miss lose to Arkansas who lost to tech who got steam rolled by ou? So Alabama should be knocked down as well right.

      • Malicong says:

        Don’t forget OU beat Tennessee on the road by 7 and Alabama could only beat them by 4 at home, so OU should be above Alabama.

  • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

    If I didn’t know any better, I could’ve sworn Heupel was in the booth last night: “When at first the run succeeds, pass and pass again.”

  • Jason Vos says:

    Anyone think baker was crying when he got pulled because he knew Trevor Knight was going to play and things wouldn’t go well for the team?

  • John Garner says:

    FWIW, College Gameday is headed to Bedlam. That’s twice in 3 weeks that one of our games is featured. Hopefully Baker has a couple of Heisman moments.

  • leatherneck1061 says:

    Hearing tOSU RB vent his frustration with the play calling – specifically the lack of run plays – was interesting. It’s like some OC’s have invested so much into their mad-scientist passing plays that simply handing the ball off is an insult to their ego.

    • Recondo says:

      I didn’t find it interesting. I found it direspectful and petulant. He was shut down after the 1st drive and was pitching a fit because the defense refused to lay down for his greatness. Glad we have a stable of humble backs willing to play for the team.

      • Boom says:

        To me it’s a kink in Meyer’s armor. I don’t agree with what the RB said but it may shed a little more light on what’s going on up there. Going to be interesting to see what Meyer does next year.

        • paganpink says:

          URBAN Meyer? (spits dark colored liquid forcefully onto ground) there’s a lot of kinks, and some big ol’ chinks, in that boys armor, Boom!

    • EasTex says:

      He vented and exhibited a “me first” player, not a team mate.

      • SoonerinLondon says:

        This. He should go pro, as his mentality is that of a kid in college just to get a pro contract.

    • DCinAZ says:

      He’s a Heisman caliber RB and he got 12 carries. That’s insane….

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      He also averaged 2.8 yards per carry on those 12 carries, and Ohio state only ran about 45 plays all game, and only had 5 first downs.

      Difficult to get your running back enough carries when you only pick up 5 first downs. It’s not like OSU was throwing the ball all over the place. They only had 16 attempted passes, it appears.

    • leatherneck1061 says:

      Folks I’m not condoning what he did. I am however pointing out that the play-calling really didn’t make sense. I mean at what point does the OC acknowledge the pass game isn’t getting you anywhere?

  • JG says:

    Maybe already discussed, but if Patterson doesn’t chance the 2 points earlier in the game when they were down 23-13, they are most likely kicking for the win at the end of the game.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      Maybe OU is more aggressive in their offensive play calling though, if they are only up 6 and not 7. Hard to play that “what if” game.

  • Sooner Ray says:

    Trevor and the dude that took Baker out are from the same HS…..conspiracy? And go…..:-)

  • Austin says:

    I don’t feel like Bama should be #1 because we have played a much tougher schedule imo, but I found it interesting that 4 of the 10 are from the big 12
    https://mobile.twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/668550634728214529/photo/1

    • Recondo says:

      F’n ESPN. They claim strength of record measures impressiveness of wins. How the hell is that a thing? It’s wildly subjective. ESPN just keeps churning out ridiculous matrices to prop up their darlings.

  • T. says:

    Did anybody else notice during the Alabama game broadcast that they displayed Charleston Southern’s 1-AA ranking of #8? I’ve never seen a 1-AA ranking when a team from that tier has played a 1-A opponent. Talk about favoring a conference/team (although it was aired on SEC net)…

    • Austin says:

      Wow! That’s all I have to say…

    • Sooner Ray says:

      I noticed. A lot of smoke and mirrors.

    • DCinAZ says:

      Pretty pathetic how the SEC’s media machine has tried to go to bat for them at every turn this season to hide their mediocrity behind smoke-n-mirrors.

      I noticed ESPN promoted the MSU/Ark game last night as a crazy TD pass festival highlight reel. “12 TD passes in 60 minutes! Enjoy it in 60 seconds!”

      No mention of there being a lack of defense in the game whatsoever.

      • Recondo says:

        I was thinking the same thing. In a half hour show I heard about how the Big 12 doesn’t play D and the SEC’s 51-50 game was one for the ages.

      • ohiosoonerdevildog says:

        They actually even said it was like a big12 game where its high scoring and no defense.

  • TDSooner says:

    Iowa @ Nebraska, and ND @ Stanford next week. Very good chance one, if not both of them will fall on the road. OU just got to do it business and beat Okie Puke.

    • paganpink says:

      Nebraska is 5-6 playing chimps, blimps and wimps! Still they may have enough left to be able to play a spoiler role against a pretender like Iowa. And note that their record reflects that Michigan State is sketchy as well.

      • CKill1 says:

        Vegas thinks so. Iowa v. NU is a pick em game.

      • Cush Creekmont says:

        That “5” means the nebbish are actually playing for something – Bowl game. If they get behind, I don’t hold much hope. But, Iowa is slow and not a scoring machine, so an early break for NU might be enough to get them rolling.

  • Chris White says:

    I sort of agree with this but it will be interesting
    https://twitter.com/espn/status/668519392926302208

    • Recondo says:

      I would swap OU and ND after yesterday. We would beat Iowa but it’s understandable. Bama could be 1-10 and still be ranked in the top 5.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      I’m fine with that on Tuesday. Actually, I’m not so sure ND won’t be ahead of Iowa. Either day, OU just needs to win out in semi-convincing fashion, and I think we’ll either get in with the better resume, or b/c somebody ahead of us lost.

  • Austin says:

    Am I the only one itching to get some news on Baker? I know it likely won’t come till a little later in the week, but doggone it I want to know! Personally I think he plays.

    • SoonerOracle737 says:

      Reporting on another site says Baker is doing good so far, but obviously has to be cleared by doctors. Encouraging news.

      • Hotrod33 says:

        I really believe he just had a bad headache and they just wanted to hold him out to be on the safe side. They didn’t want him to get hit anymore and so they rested him. Now, my worry side is saying he got his bell rung pretty good and he might not play. I hate fighting myself on these questions. SMH.

      • Austin says:

        Good. I understand concussions, if that’s what he has, are weird things, but I just don’t see how if he was concussed he made some of those plays. The td throw to Westbrook, the dropped td throw to Mixon, and that scramble for a near first down where he dodged multiple defenders.

        • SoonerOracle737 says:

          Agreed. He had good vision, reflexes, and cognitive abilities before halftime. I’m thinking they sat him down when he said he had a headache, but who wouldn’t have one with that hit?

          • Austin says:

            Oh definitely. I think it was totally precautionary because they thought they had the game in hand. Anybody would have had a headache though, he got drilled right in the back of the head.

        • SoonerOracle737 says:

          Agreed. He had good vision, reflexes, and cognitive abilities before halftime. I’m thinking they sat him down when he said he had a headache, but who wouldn’t have one with that hit?

        • JB says:

          It all depends on the severity, but players have played for years at a very high level with concussions and other injuries like Joe Montana, John Elway, Dan Marino, etc.

        • CKill1 says:

          The biggest thing to understand about concussions is that they tend to be accumulative in nature. They build in severity with each successive hit. THAT is why we are so careful with them now.

      • Sooner Ray says:

        If Hale says it, it must be true. 🙂

      • Sooner Ray says:

        If Hale says it, it must be true. 🙂

        • SoonerOracle737 says:

          Heh. I know what you mean. But Deno says Hale gets it right 50% of the time so he has that going for him.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            I thought Deno said Hale was right 65% and wrong 45%.

          • JB says:

            Deano said he was right 65% of the time, wrong 45% of the time (lol) and that there’s a 22% chance of his being right about Hale’s percentage chances of being right.

      • jimintexas says:

        On the other site – Jimbo Elrod. But, what would he know?

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      I think he’ll be fine. And Vegas was confident enough in his condition to release a line for the game.

    • Bill Holder says:

      I don’t think Bob will let Gumby know til game time which probably means we won’t either unless someone like KJ comes up with something.

    • Bill Holder says:

      I don’t think Bob will let Gumby know til game time which probably means we won’t either unless someone like KJ comes up with something.

  • Dustin says:

    Just. Win. Baby.

  • Lincoln Hawk says:

    I’ve worn my TFB BOOM shirt for every game since the Texas game. You’re welcome.

    • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

      I’d be more impressed if you had worn it ever day (without washing it). 🙂

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    So how did the atmosphere/crowd seem on the television? I was hoping for something closer to the 2008 TT game. Not saying the crowd wasn’t good, just not sure we got to the point of being great. Some of that was how the game went, especially in the 2nd half. But they were loud down the stretch when the D needed a big stop.

    Should have made a good impression on the recruits.

    • soonermusic says:

      You could definitely tell towards the end, in critical situations that the crowd was into it and loud.

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    So how did the atmosphere/crowd seem on the television? I was hoping for something closer to the 2008 TT game. Not saying the crowd wasn’t good, just not sure we got to the point of being great. Some of that was how the game went, especially in the 2nd half. But they were loud down the stretch when the D needed a big stop.

    Should have made a good impression on the recruits.

  • Jason Vos says:

    I was worried Trevor Knight might transfer at the end of the season. But after last nights game, I doubt there will be any suitors

  • Great points, Jordan. I too was baffled by the 3 man rush vs inexperienced QB. Wonder if you went back and looked how many of their big plays or 3rd down conversions were against the 3 man rush. Don’t understand MS on this one. I think TK is struggling with confidence. Didn’t care for much of the play calling, but think he just does not have the confidence he once had. Would have liked to Thomas, but maybe they don’t feel he is any better (don’t think he could have been worse though). Ross is a ghost this year. Not sure what has changed, but just nothing there. Not sure either why we even bother to field punts as we rarely ever return one. All that said, you are exactly right – the coaches and players have done an excellent job to put us where most fans didn’t believe we could be. Playing for a Big 12 championship and it is all in our hands. Not sure we can do it without Mayfield, but sure proud of the coaches and team for getting us here.

  • Sacramento Sooner says:

    I think this was just like OSU & TA&M during the 2000 season. Baker wasn’t perfect, but we would have ran away in the 2nd half had he not been injured. Riley would have adjusted to the blitzing. And it shows how much a good O helps your D. I was reminded how frustrated I was the last 2 seasons, and now I remember why…Knight. I may have blamed Heupel a little too much. Anyway, We found a way to win! And when it comes to the playoffs, that’s what will matter. This team fights, and we haven’t seen that in a long time! Boomer!

    • JB says:

      Don’t forget that Baker threw a perfect pass that went through Mixon’s hands at the end of the 1st. Should have had a 3rd TD pass by halftime.

      • F1at1ined says:

        That was a sublime throw on the run. I was super mad at Mixon for failing to secure that sweet pass.

      • Boom says:

        The first time I saw it, I didn’t think much of it due to the speed of the play. When they showed a different camera angle, it was clear it went right through his hands. Lot of misses in that game, glad it’s out of the way.

        • EasTex says:

          11 completions in the first half, 11 in the second.
          I expect the team to play much differently this week.

          • Boom says:

            Hey bro, we only completed 14 of 37. Baker 9 of 20 & TK with 5 of 15. Won with our C game and sometimes this happens. In the past, our C game wasn’t good enough. Play our A game and we beat the Pokes by 20+

      • blaster1371 says:

        Yep, Mixon got his hands turned wrong. That was a sweet pass.

  • Recondo says:

    ND has lost their #1 CB and RB. Now we will see how seriously this committee truly takes injuries. If it’s a coin toss between us and them for #4 and we are healthier with a top 20 win yesterday the Irish need to drop below OUr team.

  • soonerthunder says:

    Any commits?

  • Austin says:

    Ou wrestling team just beat #3 Michigan in Ann Arbor 23-13!

  • Austin says:

    So, take this fwiw.. I saw a poster on Landthieves(yes I know) who said there is a guy who sits in his suite that he would call a “big wig” who made a call to someone on the sideline at halftime. The guy claims Baker didn’t have signs of a concussion, aside from the headache, he was just pulled to be safe. Let’s all pray this is true.

    • Recondo says:

      That’s like 5th hand news…I’ll take it.

    • Waters says:

      Wrong!
      1. Headache
      2. Slowed pace of movement.
      3. Not himself after the head trauma
      4. Not as energetic
      5. Seems different
      Best to rest him for two weeks. Otherwise, the next hit could do real damage with long term effects.

      • Jpsooner23 says:

        What symptoms of items 2 through 5 did you see during the 2nd quarter when he was still playing doc?

        I saw some of them after he got pissed about not being on the field, but not when he was playing.

      • BoomerDave says:

        Did you see Baker celebrating after the game? Negates your points 2, 3, 4, and 5.

      • Austin says:

        3-5 are literally the same thing, just worded differently. And number 2 is incorrect, because he was still out there making defenders miss just like he was all year. So basically you are left with a headache and “he seemed different.” Wouldn’t you seem different if you got drilled in the back of the head by a linebacker? Just because he acted different doesn’t mean he was concussed.

        • Waters says:

          According to Rollin, he was slow to get up and move after a play.
          Not his usual energetic fast paced self.
          Any change in behavior,after head trauma is a concussion.
          I don’t believe precautions prevented him from playing. The doctors believed he had a concussion. The current practice is to allow play if no symptoms. The better approach is no contact and no challenging mental activity for a least two weeks.
          sensor mri would show damage if concussed.

          • blaster1371 says:

            Side line commentator said THAT was due to a bad,y scraped knee which he got late in the Baylor game. Speaking from experience artificial turf scrapes or burns hurt like a mother and can take months to heal. Even touching that injury makes yiu wince.

          • SoonerfanTU says:

            Any change in behavior,after head trauma is a concussion.

            That is not completely true. He could have gotten hit hard, had his bell rung, and been hurting/uncomfortable without it being a concussion. You see players take hits all the time and get up slow and sometimes it takes a few plays to shake it out.

      • CKill1 says:

        Sorry, you are mistaken. Although I’m not ruling out a concussion(he might have a mild one), he didn’t fail ANY of the Impact protocol after the hit or at halftime. The team trainers and sideline MD performed this protocol after every series during the second quarter after Mayfield got dinged. He was fine. No symptoms. At halftime he complained of a HA and that’s it. Like I said, it may come out that he does have a concussion but at this point what you are saying is pure speculation, especially since you didn’t see anything. Let the protocols in place do what they are supposed to do.

        • blaster1371 says:

          He didn’t even miss a play after the hit.

        • Waters says:

          I agree. The doctors who examined Baker should make the decision.
          I believe the protocols allowed him to play until he developed a headache. That said, protocols are changing and don’t reflect the latest medical research. Brain Research Centers are finding damage from multiple head hits without symptoms.
          I believe he will play. The headache will resolve. Protocols are often used to protect the physician from malpractice and undue pressure.
          I would not let him play if Baker was my son.
          OU should have a competent back up QB and the Player responsible for the hit should not play football for the remainder of the season.

        • Sooner Ray says:

          Jason Kersey and NewsOK released statements a little while ago that Baker passed ALL concussion tests yesterday and today and will practice, expected to play but will be watched closely by medical staff for a couple days.

      • blaster1371 says:

        Who were you watching?

  • Waters says:

    No commits?
    I hope the recruits were more impressed than I was.
    Most depressing win that I can remember.

    • Jpsooner23 says:

      Well then consider yourself lucky to be a fan of a team that “depresses” you when they win against a team with 2 losses over the past 2 years.

      • Austin says:

        Jp, I believe you’re the guy who said you live in the Clemson area. I only live about an hour south of you. Are you just as tired of hearing all the Clemson talk by all their fans as I am? I know the Gamecocks are just terrible, but I think I’ll laugh harder than I ever have if they find a way to pull the upset Saturday. Clemson fans wouldn’t leave their homes for weeks.

        • Jpsooner23 says:

          That’s correct. It hasn’t been horribly bad to be honest. Some are better than others just like any fan base. Most of them know who OU is though so I don’t catch to much crap.

          It’s actually funny because several of them still think they will blow it (pull a Clemson).

          That being said I moved here from Baton Rouge and I am pretty certain there is no worse fan base on this earth than them so I guess some of my take here is relative.

          However, I would LOVE to see Carolina knock them off their perch! More than that though I want a rematch, preferably in the CFP!

          • Austin says:

            Yeah, the knowledgable Clemson fans I encounter know that they don’t hold a candle to Ou’s tradition. Honestly Clemson doesn’t even have hardly any tradition other than “The Hill.” I’m with you though, as much as I would love to see Carolina beat them I really want a rematch.

  • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

    So, is it too soon to begin Little Brother Sister Hate Week? Because I’d really like to direct all my Scrooge energies at disparaging that program.

  • Zack says:

    I would guess deans news tonight on mayfield is no news really. Why hold on to it in this day and age if it’s something relevant.

  • Chris White says:

    Charlie Strong to Miami and Les Miles to Texass…thoughts?

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      I can see Strong to Miami. Miles to UT wouldn’t be an upgrade for Texas. He doesn’t fit there any more than Strong did. Not sure he gets fired from LSU anyways.

    • EasTex says:

      None.
      Don’t know, don’t care.
      BEAT THE PUKES!!!

      • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

        I second this. It’s time we all get into the holiday spirit. Let’s pour some egg nog and blame Mike Gundy for all the world’s suffering.

        • Mason says:

          Agreed!

        • blaster1371 says:

          You’re being a little hard on Mikey ……. It’s all things orange that are the cause for world suffering….. Excpet for pumpkin pie; it’s orange and I like it….. And oranges …..and peach cobbler…. Everything else thst is orange is bad…… Well maybe not orange crush…. I think I’m done.

      • JB says:

        YES, BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF THE STOOLWATER TEAM!!

    • Mizuno44 says:

      Very interesting Mr White, add Meyer to Texas a possibility?

      • JB says:

        Urban Meyer’s not leaving a better job at Ohio State for Texas. If Strong is willing to bolt for Miami and a fired Les Miles is the best UT can do, then that tells you UT is not a great job right now regardless of pay.

        • Mizuno44 says:

          I don’t care either way, I’m not a fan of Meyer, Strong, or Miles. Tough to say not or never in the coaching world though.

    • SoonerinLondon says:

      Strong to Miami, Gundy to LSU, Miles to OsU.

    • JB says:

      Ummm…yawn?

  • ou1168 says:

    1. I know Ahmad Thomas has made a few plays last couple of games , but in my opinion he is still the weak link on the defense . He misses way to many tackles , and breaks late to the ball when in zone .
    2. We need Brooks and Mixon on kickoffs . Ross just runs to the first guy and falls down .
    3. On punt returns I am still waiting for any OU coach to explain what we are doing the last 2 years . We have been one of the worst PR teams in the NCAA , with our athletes its a huge head scratcher.
    4. We are coming back , we would of found a way to lose these games the last few years . But with the coaching changes and player confidence , we look more like the old OU.
    5.There was a point in the game when TK was in that I was calling for a wildcat offense where Mixon or Perine just take direct snaps . The difference between the swagger and talent of the team with Baker vs Trevor is staggering .

    • Snr4Life says:

      Really on point about Ahmad Thomas, at times he is a liability in the secondary. Have no idea what he was doing on that last touchdown by TCU.

    • Jpsooner23 says:

      The thing I see with Thomas is he is hesitant. He hangs in the middle until the QB actually throws rather than reading and reacting. Particularly obvious on sanchez’s side. Many times u see Sanchez let someone go to jump a short route, which many people see as a flaw in Sanchez game (I will admit he does occasionally bit on double moves but that’s not what I mean in this case). I think Sanchez is expecting Thomas to rotate to that side, but he’s usually late. I dunno, something that would be interesting to see K break down.

      As for Ross, I think he needs to come off the KO team. Teams are kicking to him on purpose now. I like the idea of brooks and either mixon or Neal back there.

      TK has always been boom or bust but it seems since the oakman incident he has regressed to a point I never thought I would see.

    • soonermusic says:

      Could not disagree more on A. Thomas. He has had a terrific season. He has often been the line of last defense when the opposing team’s player has made it through everyone else and has made the tackle. It is remarkable how much ground they have asked him to cover and how important he has been to the success of this defense all season. This has been clearly and repeatedly echoed in the coaches’ comments about him as well.

  • Shelby is a Patriot says:

    Wow…Kyle Busch. What a great comeback. How about that?

    • Zack says:

      Was rooting for Gordon to win one last time. Oh well

      • Shelby is a Patriot says:

        I’m a Carl Edwards fan, but Kyle Busch pulling off the win is pretty cool. I’ll take that.

    • Austin says:

      I’m a Gordon fan.. So I’m a little sad right now. Tough to watch one of the greatest drivers of all time ride off into the sunset. I’m only 18, so Gordon is all I’ve ever known.

      • EasTex says:

        I quit watching NASCAR the day “The Intimidator” was killed.

        • Rick says:

          When I need a NASCAR fix, I take a load to Atlanta, and drive around on the I-285 loop. There are thousands of entrants everyday there that want to “drive fast and turn left”. Outside of that, not much interest.

          • EasTex says:

            I go way back to the old greats from the early days of NASCAR when they were actually stock cars, not some template matching amalgam of sameness. Dale Earnhardt was my last connection to the NASCAR I knew and he was first a great man, then a great driver.
            Sterling Martin will forever remain on my most hated list for the stunt he pulled that killed Dale.

          • paganpink says:

            You know old Dale pulled a few stunts on public roads himself, right? Spinning at least two “civilians” that angered him over the years right off of highways by popping them in the rear quarterpanels, LOL!

          • EasTex says:

            Wouldn’t surprise me if he did or if they deserved it. 🙂
            He was also known to take the coat off of his back for a woman standing in line in the cold and rain for his autograph.

          • WilliamJack says:

            “NASCAR when they were actually stock cars, not some template matching
            amalgam of sameness.” Couldn’t agree more!!! That was the end of it for me. Junior Johnson, Fireball Roberts, Richard Petty, AJ Foyt. American made steel cars. Yep, that was great!

  • SoonerOracle737 says:

    Revenge tour. 2 down, 2 to go.

    • Easton says:

      I hate revenge. I hope this team just wins for the sake of winning.

    • Cush Creekmont says:

      KSU – 3 of 5 down.

    • Swanny says:

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  • Lane Gilstrap says:

    It’s crazy how this win almost feels like a loss. I’m going to say lots of prayers this week for Baker Mayfield. Without him, things could get ugly.

    • Boom says:

      Always good to win with your C game.

    • Easton says:

      Tell an Ohio State fan. They may identify with your paradoxical place. Michigan State trailed the entire game. Until 0:00 Ohio State was tied or leading.

    • Jpsooner23 says:

      If that were Kansas, etc yes, but for gods sake that team has only lost twice in 2 years. They are a damn good squad with a damn good coach. Winning against them when u bring ur C (or worse) game is certainly an uptick from just one season ago.

      • JB says:

        Not to mention over the past 3 years in particular, TCU always plays us tough. It’s never an easy game. But we won 2 of those 3, and Patterson has beaten us in Norman before.

  • Alex says:

    I really enjoy reading this site and reading the comments section, although I don’t ever post anything myself. I think the majority of people on here are missing the biggest point of last night’s game and that’s the fact that in previous years this team almost certainly would have lost this game. As long as I can remember just about anytime we’ve been in a situation where we are in a tight game and one of our key players goes down and the opposing team starts making a comeback we’ve been notorious for laying down and losing these close games. What I think is the greatest part of last night is the toughness and grit of this team. You can rant and rave about how stagnant on offense we were and how bad TK is and that’s fair, I did plenty of that myself. But what I loved about last night is how we stared adversity in the face and refused to lose that game. I think that’s more important than going cold on offense and giving up a few big plays on defense. Anyways, Boomer.

    • Bob Edwards says:

      Post more often.

    • SamSooner says:

      Welcome, Alex.

      That is a valid point. But, then again, you’re looking at the intangibles. The boys played tough. Though a win is what I want, I would be okay with a loss so long as the boys played with “grit.” They have had that grit all season. They will win on Saturday and then two more after that. No one will care about last night when the boys are champions.

    • JB says:

      My brother texted me after the game and said it was a “disgusting” win. My response was that good teams find ways to win, the key word being “win.” If this were last year, we would have lost that game. I can’t feel disgusted by winning.

  • SCKSChief says:

    “Punt safe is the devil.” No truer words in this entire post.

    • Brien Brown says:

      I would put Quick or Humphrey back there to return kicks, they can really work on their hand eye by doing so and maybe develop into offensive weapons as WR’s just a theory!

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    “OU medical staff will continue to monitor Mayfield’s status over the next couple days, but the signs so far appear good for Mayfield’s chances to play in next weekend’s season finale at Oklahoma State, where the Sooners can secure the Big 12 championship”

    FREAKING YES. Big 12 title, playoff spot with game day there. OU BOOMER! OL step the freak up!

  • BigJoeBrown says:

    Read on another board that Dimitri Flowers passed out during the game….dang, I hope he was okay.

    • Brien Brown says:

      He did they where talking about it on the Radio broadcast he passed out in front or Toby Roland and Teddy Lehman. They had no word on what happen? Perine with a sprain but, not a high ankle sprain, they also said that they learned that Mayfield could have went in the second half but, they where told not to play him and take the cautious approach. Only thing anyone hear what happen to Mixon know he got hurt also. Ross must really be in the dog house as he never by my understanding got in the backfield last night even with all the injuries, that makes me sad seems he has given up!

      • D Hunter Sanchez says:

        He should just transfer or play hard and plan on making an NFL team.

        • Brien Brown says:

          I agree but the reasons I hear is he don’t know how to act right when given the chances the penalty against Tulsa last year after his big run and he got flagged they said Stoops told him that was stupid and to act like he has made a long run before and that to celebrate a first down like that is not something he would put up with

      • Austin says:

        I think Mixon took a helmet to the knee.. Probably just a bad bruise.

        • EasTex says:

          No, after he made that nice gain he was hit and flipped in the air. As he came down the tip of his right shoe dug into the turf and it looked like his ankle/knee/hammy got hyperextended.

          • Brien Brown says:

            This makes sense as they said on the radio he was grabbing his calf and was screaming in pain!

          • EasTex says:

            The No Huddle replay is Monday at noon on FSSW.

          • Brien Brown says:

            I’ll look forward to watching it thanks EasTex, how did your team do this weekend still alive in the HS playoffs?

          • EasTex says:

            They kicked booty, beat South Oak Cliff 35-3. Play at Cowboy stadium Saturday against Frisco Lone Star and their Clemson QB commit.

          • Brien Brown says:

            Good to hear and good luck to them!

          • Austin says:

            Thanks for clearing that up. Sorry, it’s hard to keep track of who all got injured and just how it happened with as many as we had go down last night. He did come back in for a play or two so hopefully he’s okay. Like I was taught in sports medicine, the R.I.C.E. method should be used often this week.

  • Muskogee Sooner says:

    After the texsa game I had plenty of fans from other teams and Sooner fans telling me the Sooners would lose 3 or 4 more games. I would just say well see. Now that there is one game left in season we do not discuss wins or loses anymore. I have enjoyed watching this team recover from the unexplained to accomplish the unexpected. They could have won prettier last night, but they won and I will remain happy that they did. Life is more enjoyable that way.

  • Austin says:

    I just watched Ou’s snapchat story from last night.. Baker broke the team down in their huddle in the lockeroom and said,” we’re still not satisfied, we’re gonna be the hungriest group in the country come Monday boys!” This kid has some fire and knows how to rally the team. I’m ready to watch him tear the cowgirl defense to pieces.

    • JB says:

      I am so grateful OU got that young man. I can’t believe he chose to walk on after he didn’t get a scholarship from an inferior program and then sat out a year to boot. That took guts, and we see that same confidence when he takes the field. I want so much for him to get back his sophomore year. Can you imagine him playing TWO more years here?

      • GrandeBass says:

        Yep, Good Ol’ Joe Castiglione needs to get on top off that and formulate a gameplan to get that year back. Texas Tech put him through heck and deserves that year. Would be a great injustice if he couldn’t get it.

  • Jdizzle says:

    The defense played well until the offense couldn’t stay on the field!

  • michael hammond says:

    The true mistake in the second half was not continuing to attack vertically. The slants are OK but they are timing throws that you have to be used to throwing in live action. Trevor was throwing darts that if on target were there but even slightly off the receivers are moving too fast to adjust. The Mixon wiff in the endzone really hurt cuz Mayfield put it in his bread basket and Joe tried to catch with arms and body instead of hands.

  • Walter Sobcek says:

    I watched a replay of that cheap shot against BM and got upset all over again. Probably the dirtiest play I’ve seen all year. The TCU LB has to sit out the first half next week, too, right?

    • Glocal Sooner says:

      No. If it happens in the first half of a game, he’s done for that game. If it happens in the second half of the game, he’s done for the game plus suspended for the first half of the next game.

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