A Somewhat Reluctant Look Ahead To 2016
Posted on: January 13, 2016
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If I’m being perfectly honest, I’m really not one for these immediate ‘looking ahead to *insert year here*’ type of posts as soon as the CFB season comes to a close. At their best this type of thing is premature, and at it’s worst they are….well, frankly, more often than not just stupid. And yet here I am about to give you exactly that.
I suppose in some respects that makes me a hypocrite but (1) I’m bored, (2) OU recruiting isn’t exactly lighting the world on fire at the moment & (3) I just kind of get the sense we all need something to talk about. Or maybe not. I don’t know. It’s now officially the offseason, so desperate times and what not, right?
So this won’t be some big deep-dive into the minutia of a roster that is still months away from being complete. Rather I’m simply going to rattle off some thoughts I have as things stand today with some speculation as to what may or may not change in the months to come.
QUARTERBACK
Obviously feel good about Baker Mayfield coming back as QB1, but beyond that it’s really just question marks. Which I suppose are only further emphasized after everyone jumped on the “I’m worried about Baker” train following another reported concussion late in the loss to Clemson. Which is in no way to make light of his apparent head injury or head injuries in general. I just thought at the time it was kind of humorous how several in the local media suddenly all became so health conscious on Mayfield’s part. But I digress.
We all want to believe Cody Thomas isn’t anywhere near as bad as we’ve seen him be in spot duty thus far, just like we all want to believe Austin Kendall — who will be here for spring football — is the next great OU quarterback. But if there is any position above all others were you almost have to take a ‘wait-and-see’ approach, in my opinion it’s at QB.
As for Kyler Murray, that’s clearly a conversation we can have this time next year.
RUNNING BACK
Loaded, duh.
Samaje Perine’s ankle and missing spring ball is of no concern to me whatsoever. Joe Mixon is returning, Rodney Anderson will be healthy, Daniel Brooks is also possibly returning (I’m presuming, he missed the bowl game because of grade issues), and Alex Ross is a senior.
No worries here.
WIDE RECEIVER/TIGHT END
Sure hope Lincoln Riley tuned in to that Alabama/Clemson game and saw what kind of an impact an athletic TE can have on your offense….
As for the WRs, there is no getting around the loss of Sterling Shepard. OU has several talented options — including the recent Penn State transfer headed to Norman — waiting in the wings, but it just isn’t going to be one guy capable of replacing everything Shepard brought to this offense. It will be fascinating to see which guys can step up during spring & fall practices.
Not telling you all anything you didn’t already know, but WRs will be one of the primary question marks heading into spring ball/the 2016 season.
OFFENSIVE LINE
If we’re to assume Dru Samia stays at right tackle, I think OU is clearly set on the outside with both he and Orlando Brown. The same definitely cannot be said in terms of the interior of the line so far as I’m concerned.
Yeah, I know Bob Stoops has already said junior-to-be Jonathan Alvarez will be shifting from guard to center which I believe is a good thing. But he had more than his fair share of struggles throughout the season — as did Ty Darlington & Nila Kasitati — so forgive me if I’m not ready to just pencil him in as an All-Big 12 performer. One would have to believe that both of OU’s current 2016 JUCO offensive line commitments will be given every chance to win either guard spot.
Maybe Quinn Mittermeier can take over at right tackle and you move Samia inside? Alex Dalton was a candidate for a guard spot, but he tore his ACL during bowl practices so that no longer seems likely. Jamal Danley was supposed to be really good, Cody Ford coming of a redshirt looks to have the size/athletic ability, Dominique Hearne is another big redshirt freshman.
Point being OU will have options. But are they ‘difference-maker’ type options?
If I’ve taken away any single thing from both OU’s loss to Clemson in the Orange Bowl and the subsequent national championship game it’s that the difference between good teams and great teams is difference-makers up front on both sides. Alabama & Clemson have them, and as much as it pains me to admit OU (with an exception or two) just doesn’t.
I think Brown has a good chance of developing into a difference-maker, and I’d probably go so far as to say the same about Samia. But outside of those two, along the OL, I’m not seeing any others, at least at the moment.
DEFENSIVE LINE
Similar story here as the OL with respect to difference-makers. Charles Walker is pretty clearly the exception to that rule, but even he needs to be that type of player on a more consistent basis. There could be several others in guys like Neville Gallimore, Marquise Overton, Du’Vonta Lampkin & Gabriel Campbell but over than a handful of snaps (albeit some rather impressive ones) from Overton, we’ve literally never seen the other guys at this level yet. So we’re talking strictly about that tricky world of “potential” until we see otherwise.
And while the last thing I am is a fan of switching this defensive scheme yet again, personally I’d like to see OU go back to more of a traditional four-man front. I think they have the talent and depth to do so, and I think it would be a better fit for what they ultimately want to do. But that (making the switch) is probably more wishful thinking on my part than anything if I’m being honest.
At this point it would be stupidly unrealistic to ask for/expect OU to be rolling out virtually nothing but four and five-star guys three deep. I’ll settle — for now — if it’s just the starters. Because that hasn’t been the case for a while now and the results on the field in big games have only highlighted that fact.
And yet I keep hearing all these people locally saying over and over how they’ve watched these same two games and they’re absolutely convinced OU isn’t really that far from a Bama or Clemson as some might have you believe. Trust me, nothing would make me happier for them to be right and me wrong but I just don’t see whatever it is they’re apparently seeing.
As I’ve said a number of times now, I want these young guys to be great just as much as all of you do. But am I willing to just assume they’re going to be? No, I’m not. If that makes me a bad fan then so be it. I’d argue it makes me a realistic one, but why let the details get in the way of things. I’m not rooting for anyone to fail, nothing could be farther from the truth. But I do need to see guys succeed on the field before I just blindly but into that being an inevitability.
LINEBACKER
You (should) already know OU loses a lot at LB. You (should) already know the position, outside of Jordan Evans, will be amazingly inexperienced heading into next year. I feel like it’s a recurring theme at a couple different spots so far in so much as you like the potential of the young guys that will be called upon, however you can’t help but be at least a little worried because of said youth and/or inexperience.
This will also be a primary point of focus, especially during the spring where Evans will almost assuredly be limited, if not out entirely, following that torn pectoral he suffered during the bowl game (well, that and he’ll be a senior and Stoops routinely limits those guys during spring practices).
SECONDARY
Much like Shepard, replacing Zack Sanchez doesn’t figure to be an easy task. Yeah, he had his issues at times be it in coverage and/or tackling. But the good plays far outweigh the bad when it comes to his time in Norman.
Barring any more stupidity, Jordan Thomas is a virtual lock to start at one corner spot. As to the other….hard to say at this point. Dakota Austin and PJ Mbanasor appear to be the most likely candidates, or they could move Will Johnson outside from nickel. At this point I’m not sure which of those options I’d prefer.
Personally I don’t think Austin would hold up over the course of a full season given his size, but I’d bet you he’s heard something to that effect most of his playing career and loves proving people like me wrong. I’m also not the least bit concerned over Mbanasor’s struggles from way back in the Tulsa game. As for Johnson, I was came away pretty impressed with his play this past season. Would that translate playing on the outside? I don’t know why not, but maybe some would disagree.
As for safety, Steven Parker is a star. We know this. Opposite him Ahmad Thomas was clearly much improved in 2015 compared to what we say from him the year prior. So credit both himself and Kerry Cooks for the progress made there. That said, I would still like to see one of the young guys be given a real chance to win that job during spring/fall practices. It’s nothing personal against Thomas, I feel like we’ve all just seen there are some limitations to his game that are simply unavoidable.
SPECIAL TEAMS
I’ll be a little interested to see if they go with Austin Seibert again at both punter and kicker. I mean they’re obviously not looking to bring anyone else in, at least in terms of a scholarship player, with this 2016 class, so it would either be someone currently on the roster or a walk-on. Seibert didn’t really have any glaring issues handling both this past season, so I’m not sure why things would be any different in 2016.
I felt like for the most part the punt and kick coverage units were pretty solid, no complaints there from this guy. As for the return units….oh boy, where do we start? Alex Ross will be a senior and, at one time, was arguably the top KO return guy in the country. The problem is that time was 2014 and I’m not sure, barring more fumbles, how he could have been much worse than he/the KO return unit were this past season.
And yet as hard as it is to believe, even they weren’t as bad as OU’s punt return team. I’ve wasted enough of both your time and mine bitching about the stupidity (in my opinion) of OU’s approach to this facet of the game, so I’ll resist the urge to waste even more doing so again here. I’m hoping beyond hope they change something beyond just a new designated fair catch guy now that Shepard is moving on to the NFL.
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So there you have it. I’m quite certain I missed some things and/or glossed over others that could have gone much more in-depth. But I was attempting to avoid this turning into a 5,000 word essay that would bore many, if not all, of you to death. Especially because any number of things with this team/program could change between now and the kickoff against Houston in the 2016 season opener.
The comments section……………….is open.
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Hey Jordon this article is only showing up under Team News and not the General or All page! Thanks and have a great day!
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I think Alvarez will be an upgrade and not sure who the guards will be but I’m sure BB will find the best 2. He doesn’t have to be loyal to seniors at this point since only 3 guys really have experience here at ou and those are the 3 that are for sure starters.
Wide receivers is going to be a huge question mark and we will see how much difference a year and a new coaching staff can make in development.
Not worried about the DLine, I think they need to go to more of a 4 man front whether it’s a 4-3 or a 4-2. They’ve got to be in nickel to handle most of the big 12 teams, and I think that will help with the lack of proven depth at LB.
I’m also not worried about the secondary, I think cooks is an outstanding coach and they should be about the same if not better. I don’t think any of the young safeties can beat out Ahmad, they should all hope he has another much improved season and chooses to go to the NFL early because his situation is going to be very similar to Sanchez. 4 year guys who’s started 3 years and he’s actually the prototypical size for safety.
Agree about Alverez. Not sure he is a All-Big 12 Center yet but I think he will be tougher, stronger, and Nastier than Darlington was this past year! I wouldn’t mind seeing Haughton push Thomas for some playing time. He got his feet wet last year and if he has a big jump this offseason he could make some waves. I remember Super K talking about his natural covering ability being great so could see the field a little more.
Clearly super k is right as the coaches gave him more PT than any other youngster this year. I think he played more than any freshman and RSFR on the team outside brown, samia and mixon. Feel free to tell me if I missed any other freshmen. I know Q played but I think haughton played more often.
haughton’s very good. the biggest jump in great athletes is between 1st and 2nd year. look at Parker. I think we’ll see that from haughton. very, very good player. with him, parker, jthomas, johnson and ?, and an even better DL, should be improved at pass D.
I think it will be hard to keep haughton off the field next year
I hope a lot of young guys play because if they are it is because they are better and that is never a bad thing. I hate being loyal to Seniors that haven’t earned it. What I mean is I don’t think they should play just because they are older. I was fearful of that with OU and it seems like they lean that way from time to time but by starting two Freshman at OT for most of the season I think they are playing whoever is best for the position. It makes the whole competition for your spot every week a real thing and makes the young guys and guys on the sideline hungry!
I know what you’re saying about being hungry from competition. But it doesn’t seem that BS is playing people b/c of age, they have to keep earning it. I think AThomas has earned it with his play; he’s good, but I think Houghton is better. This yr we had Quick, Byrd, Shannon, Wade, Knight, etc have previous starting experience, yet they were passed, so I expect that to happen a little next yr too, WHICH MEANS. . . you are better b/c a starter got beat out and is experienced playing backup!
I think our OL will be better next yr
By the end of year, definitely. It does hurt losing your leader even if he wasnt the greatest center
I agree totally with your assessment as well! Big Offseason for guys to develop! If the Juco guys or other Youngsters can come in and solidify the interior of our OL and the young DL guys boost our defensive pressure which will help our secondary out a lot it could be a special year, but there is no way to know till next September!
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Jordan, I like your initiative. As the dull time between NSD and Spring practice hits, kick in a few more overviews. I have no objection if you work up a whole plan on punt return projections – a la JY. Maybe go back and find the tape of a certain UCLA game to show what can happen. But in general, save it for that dull end of February time. We might have a great BB March and then spring practice after that.
Without dominant NG or DT’s, were just a good top ten.
I think the DLine is one of our better position groups. If they move to a 4 man front it will be noticeably different IMO.
I completely agree that we are stacked at DL whether its nose, 3 technique or 5. Lampkin and Gallimore were recruited by EVERYONE. Walker and Overton ended up being great surprises. Rush LB / DEs are a different story
Overton would have had more offers but he was a guy ou wanted from the start. Rivals 250
true plus he had grade issues all along
plus he only wanted to go to OU. If he’d wanted to open it up, then they’d have given him more stars, and of course, more stars = better players (just ask Walker, bradford).
Excited to see Gallimore…terrified to see Lampkin
Lampkin is a beast
yeah, he’s going to be really, really good. he is massive
Yea glad hes not on your team lol.Just funnin Kyle.
Darrion Daniels is going to be a beast though…
yeah @metzker:disqus rub it in. LOL. But @soonerfan24:disqus I am pretty excited about Daniels. He probably should have redshirted this year but we had no experience at DT and he was a pleasant surprise.
Ive been hearing good things about Lampkin.
I think the DLine is one of our better position groups. If they move to a 4 man front it will be noticeably different IMO.
Not the D-line that was supposed to score more than ZIP in the second half. The O-line needs to be bigger, but certainly TOUGHER on the interior. Alvarez has a little “mean” and can be fine at center. TWO guards need to step up and take it “personally.”
Without dominant NG or DT’s, were just a good top ten.
Jordan, I have been having the thoughts as well about going back to a traditional 4-3 on D. Seems like with players like Lampkin, Gallimore, Overton, Walker, etc, then some talent is wasted each play on the sidelines if some combo of 3 or more of them aren’t out there together. I understand rotation and freshness though, so maybe that’s an advantage that can pay off throughout the long season if we just rotate them all.
I’ve had several people tell me it doesn’t make any sense, presumably b/c they’ve been recruiting to this supposed 3-4 for a couple years now but I just don’t see it like that.
IMO they could pretty easily shift back to a 4-3, especially now that Striker is gone.
Exactly….I like the sound of Walker, Overton, Lampkin, Gallimore / Dimon, Evans, LB?, Obo, better than Walker, Overton, Dimon, w/Evans, ILB? ILB? (Tay Evans, Curtis Bolton, or frosh), Obo….Those 2 LB spots are going to be hard to fill imo. I know we’ve recruited specific to a certain D, but right now I’m not sure we have the players for it, especially since LB recruiting 3/4 years ago was not very stellar.
Jordan, I have been having the thoughts as well about going back to a traditional 4-3 on D. Seems like with players like Lampkin, Gallimore, Overton, Walker, etc, then some talent is wasted each play on the sidelines if some combo of 3 or more of them aren’t out there together. I understand rotation and freshness though, so maybe that’s an advantage that can pay off throughout the long season if we just rotate them all.
OL, DL and LB’ers are my concern assuming no major injuries for the other units. I do have faith that Bedenbaugh will roll out a serviceable unit but we must come out of the gate running as the schedule starts tough and then gets tougher. DL should be good but we are dependent upon some youngsters doing work right out of the gate. Walker must come to play every game. LB’ers are my real worry, we have some talent but they too must come out to play immediately as there will be no pancakes to allow them to grow up slowly. All that being said, I am eternally an optimist and somehow they will make it happen.
I’ll be honest, I wasn’t prepared to read or digest all of this material, shame on me for clicking.
Pretty spot on in my opinion,Thanks Jordan
thank you for reading
Time for the pups at LB to grow up. Huge opportunity awaits.
We have the talent, time to show.
This. We hear this all the time. Just wish we’d see it…all of it.
the best news is OU has so many contributors returning ; the bad news is OU has so many contributors returning with their inconsistencies, size / speed / strength issues…..With a healthy Mayfield for every game next fall : 9-3 record with losses to tOSU, Texas, WV or Houston/ Baylor… without Mayfield and either Thomas / Kendall at QB : 6-6 record………..One of the biggest concerns for 2016 is the lack of a productive, talented QB who could take the team–in lieu of Mayfields availability-and win with it……..
6-6? Stoop has never gone 6-6 even with back-up QB’s. That’s like saying the San Antonio Spurs under Pop are not going to make the playoffs if Tim Duncan is hurt. Oh wait, he’s been hurt and horrible this season but they’re #2 in the West. That’s just you being dumb.
You’re welcome…
You shouldn’t talk about predictions. I recall you posting something like 8-5…again…Get out of here with that…
if a guy predicts 8-5 and we go 11-2 losing in the Final 4, and next year 9-3 w/o obviously being in the Final 4, that means we’ll be 15-0 and only play 14 games.
Extra credit for “advanced math.”
Thanks! I was always well at math. I never came home with a “C”–all “Ds” and “Fs.” One day I came home and told my dad I thought I’d flunked my math test. He said I needed to be more positive than that. So I told him: “I’m POSITIVE I flunked my math test.” I learned English good to.
Stephie, shouldn’t you take a couple of months….to consider all of your dire predictions? Maybe wait until….OUr horrible recruiting class is signed and all the awful play during….closed spring practice….and the dismal spring game performance before you post your….well-considered opinion. I mean in light of your brilliant (s/) prediction regarding this past season’s W-L record….
lol… not really how I feel but this always makes me laugh
I think that is appropriate for your basketball team… Sorry Kyle. LOL
it is very true… 🙁
We have skill people. I am not worried about the o-line. My ONE worry, is D-Line. We just don’t have the size, strength, skill there to compete for a National Championship. That was the main thing I took away from the Orange Bowl and watching Bama/Clemson. Each of those teams had dominant d-lines. If you have a dominant D-Line, it helps out the rest of the defense and takes a lot of the pressure off.
More size next year just gotta show it.
I am still frustrated about the Clemson game. We KNEW they were going to run the ball. We KNEW #4 was going to run the ball. And we couldn’t do anything about it! That starts up front.
Bama didnt stop him either.
Good point here. But, we couldn’t outscore them either. That’s what bugged me.
Yep same as texsa game 17 dont cut it no more
We lose ONE guy off that Dline that just made the Playoffs. Is making the Playoffs not “competing for a NC?”
I’m curious why you say you’re not worried about the o-line. Not saying you’re wrong, just curious as to the reasons behind your confidence.
Jordan, we return both starting tackles and an interior guy in Alvarez. All of those guys will be better next year. We have some young talent that will step in and fulfill the other 2 spots. It just seems like we can build a sustainable offensive line easier than a defensive line. We throw the ball pretty quick and have a QB that can move. Our RB’s don’t need the biggest hole to break a run. I just feel that it’s more important for us to be able to shut down a running game and pressure a QB with 4 defensive lineman that are really good. I just don’t know if we have the needed depth/talent on the defensive side of the ball at this point.
You can’t definitively say they’ll all be better next year than I can say they won’t be.
Alvarez was good this past season and he played in 2014, admittedly just part-time, so by your own logic this argument doesn’t work.
As to the rest, any knowledgeable football guy worth their salt will tell you depth AND talent along both lines is critical to any team’s success or lack there of.
So, yes, OU absolutely needs depth and talent on the defensive side of the ball. Always. Just like they need it on the flip side.
Our O-line made their D-line look superior.
I am way more optimistic about this upcoming season than the same time last year.
Agreed.
Same
Sunshine every where here here BOOMERRRRRRRR!!!!!!!
Calm down Metz… or “he” will come out to bring the usual rain-on-OUr-parade….
I thought about that after i hit enter lol i might get a lecture again.
See below – (I didn’t use dots though).
… edit: and I’ll raise you a SOONER!!!
A bit brief hOUligan. Didn’t you mean – …. …. …. ….
That better??
I like the improvement! 🙂
Where did you dig up my photo?
Nice
Totally agree. Although I will say in putting this together it even opened my own eyes as to just how many potential question marks there seems to be w/ a team almost everyone already has in the Top 5 for next year.
We will find out real fast next year where we stand,ooc is a killer to start.
Not to mention going to TCU as our first conference game. Sans 2008, those guys have given us a tough road to hoe every time & I don’t expect any different next go ’round.
We all know teams with solid returning QB’s get a bump in the polls.
That being said, look at the question marks of other teams in the top 5. tOSU returns like 6 starters. Michigan and FSU dont have any experience at QB coming back. LSU has a horrible QB.
Clemson returns a ton, they easily deserve #1, and bama has reloaded enough times that they easily deserve a top 5 slot.
Other than that, id say you could put us anywhere from 3rd to say 8th, and it would be a pretty fair ranking.
Clemson just lost three top players. Bama has an unproven Qb. Michigan has to find some offense and OSU? We’ll put them out of their misery in Norman.
Thanks, Jordon for all you do here. I appreciate the work you put into this.
I hate off season.
With ‘recruiting season’ on us, I don’t really consider it ‘off season’ until after nsd. It’s the nuclear winter following the spring game until practices start that kill me.
Yeah. This year we might have a good March Madness lead into Spring football. After that – try golf. In spring, I always have to lose weight so I can drink beer, chips, burgers, and all through the summer and the FB season.
Golf has too much walking to be a good game, and just enough game to spoil a good walk. – Harry Leon Wilson
we just don’t want to become like UT fans and win the recruiting NC every year. That’s when I know we are in trouble, when that’s more important than fall football.
I get it. I just hate prediction threads because they always turn into a slap fight between the people who are optimistic and the “realists” that think it’s their job to make everyone as miserable as they are.
Talking about recruiting is great. I would gladly replace prediction threads with talking about the #2 BB team or some of the other highly rated OU teams.
But then I am home sick today and probably shouldn’t post until I get better. My snarky side comes out when I am sick.
Get well Bob
Get to feeling better so you can argue properly.
Not to mention, his poetic side.
Maybe SD can come by and sing soft kitty for ya.
And I thought you were my friend.
Lmao i am i am i swear.
Get well! Might try a Hot Toddie –
8oz Hot Water
1 Bag Herbal Tea
1oz Bourbon (I prefer OTHER whisky or Rye myself)
1 Tablespoon Honey
1 Lemon Wedge
Pour hot water into mug and steep tea for 2-3 minutes. Remove tea bag and add honey, stirring to dissolve. Pour in whiskey, add squeeze of lemon, stir and find relief
Yeah, more of a stomach bug. Not sure how well that would work.
I get ya’ Sorry, just trying to help a fellow Sooner suffering the slings-and-arrows of life.
I appreciate at it.
Thank you for reading and I wholeheartedly agree w/ the sentiment of your last sentence 🙂
I second Bob’s thanks, but pace yourself my man – it is a loooooooooong off season and we will count on you to keep us informed AND entertained.
edit – fat fingers
Special teams (I’ll be that guy) to say that punt returns both defending and returning were a disappointment last season would be playing captain obvious. Personally, would like to see Joe Mixon returning punts and some effort at pressuring the punter at least one time.
Heard Dwayne Orso was moving from defensive line to offensive line, can anyone confirm that?
The good old not-so-special teams…sigh
That’s colonel obvious at last years level.
TFB reported that Orso was practicing at OL during bowl prep, but not sure if that was necessarily a permanent move.
When was defending returns a problem? I think we were ranked pretty high in NCAA for our special teams coverage. Return game sucked eggs. Seems like it all went South the year before last when Sterling’s mom said something about being worried about him getting hurt doing it. I still can’t figure out why Stoops didn’t make a change.
Bedenbaugh will find a good combo from what he has + the new JCs with Orlando anchoring LT, and starters like Samia and Alvarez, Ford a Scout team mvp, B Evans is supposed to be a stud and maybe moves inside. On DL, with Striker gone and inexperience/depth issues now at LB, some great talent available at DT and tOsu game 2, would not be surprised to see OU go back to a 4 man front. Think that’s why the push to get some more experience and size in the form of JCs at DE. Still, think both units will ultimately be better. T Evans returns w/ Obo and J Evans should be ready but DeBerry, McGinnis and Bolton need to grow up in a hurry. There could be pt available for a frosh at LB.
I’m looking forward to BEvans too. I look for him to be good, and it seems we have some huge guys inside to choose from (Ford, etc.). I look for us to be more physcal and glad it’s anchored inside w/Alvarez w/brown&samia on the outside. I think we’ll see a real improvement on the OL next year w/more experience from our OTs.
I f we make it to 3 and 0?Tough opener.Our ooc is insane.
Funny Jordan I got blasted for the same thoughts at work that Clemson especially on the DLine looked like totally different animals than we had seen and even there secondary was really fiscal with our receivers and couldn’t get any separation. I think anyone watching that game and could honestly say that ou was equally on same level as Clemson or Alabama has also never seen or admitted a team has ever been better than any ou team.
I gotta say that that right there is some fancy writing.
Understand it not I did.
Undertood did i not
WHATTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don’t you me to say:
I gotta say that that write their is some fancy righting.
You read my mind.
I need a translator for this thread. Me no speaky this lingo.
I, for one, am a little concerned about the fiscal integrity of OUr receivers – I know we can’t pay like Mississippi or texsa, but we can’t be letting OUr boys get teased during games by the rich DBs going against them.
Otherwise, just how much there, their there was really there….(for the special benefit of….)
I can only assume the people blasting you didn’t watch the game then 😉
Yeah, you’re right Jordan. Too soon to make any predictions. The spring will reveal our needs. Not so sure about moving Dru inside though now that he’s seasoned on the edge. The key to next year I think will be the D-Line. We’ll need 5-star, if not AA, play there I think to make a serious run at the CFP. The OOC is a bear and will prepare us for what is to come in the B12. No gimmies there. One things for sure, we have the coaches to make it happen.
I hear you. I’m certainly not in a position to say that’s what w/b best for Samia, just know it’s an option I’ve heard discussed as a possibility.
EJ Price comes in and starts immediately at RT pushing Samia down to RG with Ford at LG…takes Crimson glasses off. The Sooners have a glaring need to be better up front on both sides of the ball, be it physically and/or mentally.
As for A. Thomas, he seems a step behind when getting over to help out deep so he tends to over run things to counter that. Saw it vs TCU and Clemson a couple times. Maybe another year will help him read things faster and that can solve that unless it’s just a lack of speed.
LB’s the loss of 3 guys and Evans out in the Spring will help develop some of the younger guys(in theory). Evans being out will push more snaps on T. Evans, Bolton, and Hulk McGinnis
Replacing Shepard will have to be done by committee.
it will be a full time job for the committee too.
Yep, Westbrook, Andrews, Mead, Quick, Miller, and can we have a Dallis Todd sighting????
one of the bigger receivers we have recruited the past couple seasons will have to (and I believe will) step up huge this season. there is a lot of competition and a lot of balls to go around with shep and neal gone. the guys have to realize this and there has to be a gem in the bunch.
Should be a ton of work done by the younger guys trying to earn those opportunities
one of the bigger receivers we have recruited the past couple seasons will have to (and I believe will) step up huge this season. there is a lot of competition and a lot of balls to go around with shep and neal gone. the guys have to realize this and there has to be a gem in the bunch.
IMO, you flip Brown to RT which I’ve always felt was a more natural fit for him. But I’m also no JY so….
I can get on board with that
Then who plays LT, Jordan? Just curious….
EJ Price in my scenario
So you think there’s a legit shot we get Price?
In theory, EJ Price or Bobby Evans.
My thoughts:
Oline is a lot more stable than it was a year ago.
Constantly shuffled players along the line.
Brown/Samia/Alvarez are set. Find 2 and go.
Ford/Evans/Dalton/Hearne/Powers/Julius/Danaly
Theres 2 starters in that group.Plug and play
WR group is massive.
Dede/Jarvis/Andrews/Mead/Quick have playing time
Green/Todd/Miller/Smallwood/Humphrey young guys potentially step up
add Transfers Lewis/Parker and maybe a commit
Great mix of Playing time, young talent and transfers.
Not to mention our best position coach Cale Gundy.
Someone will step up
LBs
This is the position I worry about.
Tim Kish will earn his check this year. He has his guys. Time to replace a couple of starters.
Best 2016 commits are LBs. (Kelly/Youngquist) Might be too young to play
Someone could elaborate for me..Couldnt you plug and play Kelly in Doms spot?
ILB can get picked apart in zone space. (Baylor)
CBs
JT/PJ/Will/Dakota
All with playing time. Thin after them.
IMO PJ didn’t play so bad against Tulsa. I know his technique was all off. But he was in the WRs hip pocket/physical. After a spring, summer and two days with 1st team. I think he’s going to be a good one.
Worried:
Overall depth . I think we can find serviceable starters in at WR.OL,ILB but we were extremely lucky this year with no season ending injuries at those questionable positions.
Guys get banged up and have to miss a game. That can even cost us a game.
Size. I don’t want to be a undersized dline/oline. You can out athlete and out technique up to the top 4. Teams in top 4 are just as athletic/technique as you are. If they are longer and bigger its a disadv. Roberts/Campbell/MAnn/Gallimore play more. Samia/Evans put on weight.
Kelly has to commit first before we’re allowed to play him, per NCAA regulations.
regulations schmegulations
Darn it.. Is that the rule?
He better commit then!
🙂
That must be a B12 rule, I am sure the SEC plays players that aren’t committed.
Yeah they don’t really have rules down there, just a few suggestions.
good break down. agree with you pretty much across the bored.
Sanchez, Alexander and (potentially) Frison are big losses that we didn’t have to take. I understand the reasons behind all three, and fully support them, but would love to be going into next year with those three in camp.
Overall, I am quietly optimistic about everything except LB and WR. I think we’ll have talent on campus for LB, but look at how talented Alexander was and he still struggled mightily his first year. I’m not sure that we have talent on campus to play WR at a championship level. This, I think, will have to come from a new kid on the block…so let’s recruit the high schools and JC’s hard.
I think we will be ok on talent at WR. We may not have a sure fire leader like Shepherd was but we have way more overall talent returning than a Texas Tech Team that passed for 4700yds in the Big 12 last year, a OSU team that went for 4600yds, TCU who had 4500yds, and West Virginia that had 3300yds. OU passed for a little over 4000yds last year and I think we will only get better in the second year with Riley. Maybe nobody gets 1200 receiving yards but I beat several guys are between 600 and 800yds and that will be just fine with the outstanding backfield that we have returning.
We also gave up 41 sacks. That’s an insane number and clearly didn’t help our passing game. More time to throw will get more receivers open in this offense. Just for perspective we only allowed 9 sacks last year. We only thew the ball 53 more time this year too so it wasn’t that unbalanced. If the oline improves, and I expect they will, 2016 will be scary good.
Alexander was not considered a highly talented prospect and he was thrown to the wolves as a freshmen. I wouldn’t put these young guys that have been waiting in the same class as him. Much different scenario IMO.
I agree with J. This is where I see us standing position wise.
QB = A (Baker…nuff said)
RB = A+ (obvious reasons)
WR = B+ (without Shep its hard to give em an A)
OL = B- (will only get better from last year)
DL = B (Will miss Tapp but have some solid youngsters)
LB = C- (as of right now because of the holes)
DB = B (Zach will be missed but again have some solid youngsters)
K = A (Austin is as valuable as anyone for us)
Coaching = A (gotta give them credit with how they coached up this year)
Very reasonable. We just need to get the B- and the C- up to at least Bs. While always trying for straight “A”s, I think a 3.5 GPA on the player side might get us to the final 4 next year. Nice job KJ.
Haha thanks Cush…exactly…always want A’s across the board.
I hope Mbanasor or Jordon Parker can push Dakota Austin at CB. Nothing against Austin as he did a fine job last year felling in but we say how Sanchez didn’t fair very well against big receivers late in the year and Austin at 157lbs is pretty light in the britches. Like a little more size on the outside and would love to keep Will Johnson where he is at.
I think PJ is really athletic and can play. Maybe just a few adjustments to technique and a little more experience will make him a solid CB. I agree regarding Austin, doing well one of two games is one thing, sustaining across an entire season is another.
Agree and I think PJ will end up being a stud and the starter. He has the size, speed and athleticism. When he was thrown in to the fire last season he was in good position most of the plays he got beat on he just was late to or failed to get his head around. I think he will eventually end up starting opposite J Thomas.
QB, I can see an A but, Baker is an A+ player the backup force this grade lower. RB’s A++ cause we have two A+ RB’s and Flowers is a great weapon @ FB, WR just a B (Not cause of just Shep but no Neal also sucks) guys have to step up Andrews I think is and A+ kid though. OL I’d give a B cause Samia and Brown will be A+ players and that helps that they are on the edge! DL A- at worse cause Walker is an A+ guy and the talent around him will get better. LB C Evan was better than Dom IMO, and I think DeBerry and Kelly, Youngquist, and Tay Evans will be great as the season goes. DB A Thomas and Parker are A+ talent Johnson is a stud also and Thomas came into his own, Saunderland and Haugntion could be studs also I think Will Saunderland is just like Parker and will be a standout before long. K A Siebert is legit. ST overall Incomplete, can’t be worse than this year or can it? Good job KJ nice break down!
Potential = A+
So much young talent I’m anxious to see in live game action. I really think the future is as bright as ever.
Well…. damn. I was actually excited about next season until I read this. Now I’m depressed.
At the risk of making Jordon loose his mind I am broaching a sensitive subject. With all the past success at returning punts, what has made OU adopt this Fair Catch practically every time approach they have had the past 2 years? It seems they have players that would be good in that role like a Brooks or Miciah Quick if you are worried about getting Shep hurt. Why the 180° turn for the OU special teams? Please reply your answers below!
No one knows but Bob. The popular opinion is he is content with having the ball in his hands rather than taking any risk that it stays in the other teams hands (assuming people actually cover on the called punt safe).
Agree. Heck it might be the player. Jalen and Brown returned punts just fine.
I don’t think that’s it b/c we’ve had plenty of seasons recently where he let guys return the ball. Rumor was they gave other guys a shot in practice and didn’t trust them enough. Guessing Shep doesn’t get to actually return the ball for risk of injury. Given what happened at the end of 2014 without Shep, probably a good idea. Hopefully we get back to making plays with that unit in 2016.
The opinion applies to this past season not others. Obviously, something changed his approach. Very possible it’s what u mentioned.
KJ1123 – you are around them and seem to hear a lot. What do you have on this question?
I honestly have no clue about that one.
My guess is we cant afford to get shep hurt, and he dosent trust the ball security of the rest.
He didn’t let Broyles return the ball but he did let Brown. Zero idea what the thought process here is.
Huh? Broyles returned over 100 punts in his time in Norman. Remember this little gem?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5f0wiONdA0
Having returned punts in HS it is a fairly complex issue that JE wants to make so simple. The new-er formation of the swinging gate allows guys to only hold blocks for a sec or two and then move into coverage since the back gate provides a safety valve for the punter. Also if the punter puts a good hang time on a 40 yard punt unless you want to get drilled or get your butt chewed out you are fair catching that. I tell you what, look up all of the data on OU’s opponents and their average punting distance, hanging time, and yard line from where punt was kicked, send it to me and I’ll give you a summary of the reasons for minimal punt returns. Sound good? I kid of course. Sometimes Shep made a bad read to but I’m sure with his level of talent and trust from the coaches he had liberty to make the fair-catch call or not.
Common sense is frowned upon when discussing this sensitive subject.
Imho, it has to do with the lack of effective blocking for returns. Everyone is talking about how Ross isn’t the same, and yet, what I saw was the one time they actually blocked a nice lane for him, he returned it the length of the field to the 2 yard line and almost scored. I think they had the same problems with the punt return team, and when you combine that with better hang time and better quality kicks from opposing kickers, you get a very conservative looking return game.
the previous season was a different issue and had to do with Shep being new at judging returns, dealing with injury, and the coaching staff dealing with being burned by a poorly called punt block attempt.
If past behavior is any indicator, I think Bob will make an effort to improve that part of the game this year. He’s gonna start from the premise that at all costs you don’t want either a penalty or a turnover, but this looks to me like just the sort of situation that he decides needs improvement and does something about. mho
they gotta get the dang offense figured out. I’m tired of watching the Sooners STEAMROLL the big 12 and then put up 17 points or less in a bowl game. That frustrates me more than the defense in the big games. Don’t get me wrong, I’m salty they gave up 300+ rushing yards too though.
I still feel like we go a bit more conservative in the big games on offense. Wish we wouldn’t do that.
While we terribly missed Walker in the Orange Bowl, I thought the D line still looked better than the linebackers. Hopefully this summer our big youngsters grow up.
That was a big one, seeing not dressed right before the game was a “WHAT!!????” moment for sure.
Wasn’t he ruled out a day or two earlier?
Could of been, but alot of guys on the team didn’t even know, and I through he was practicing during the last padded practice.
I think I saw where he tweeted out himself he wasn’t playing,but would be playing in the NC
My memory was he wasn’t announced until the day of the game. The team knew early in the week, they just didnt announce it until gameday.
So, is the Big 12 going to have a conference championship game next year? Looks like whatever rule we wanted to pass, passed.
If we had the answer to that question that would indicate the B12 has a plan, which I greatly doubt. /s
I would assume so, since they were asking for the rule.
If Walker moves over to Tapper’s spot I’d like to see one of the young guys(Gallimore, Lampkin, or Campbell) step up and become a solid starter on the other side and have Dimon serve as more of a depth guy used to give the others a break. If i recall, he and DJ Ward are both slightly undersized at about 260 along the line
Dimon and Romar didn’t look good at all against Clemson. Would like to see at least one of them replaced in the starting lineup. I get a little confused as to who plays what position on the 3 man line, but hopefully Overton or Lampkin (or Gallimore/Campbell) can work their way into the starting lineup.
And hopefully we rotate more frequently.
My thought process has been that Gallimore Lampkin and Walker are big enough and athletic enough to play any of the 3 DL spots. And then Romar and Overton are your more traditional space eating DT.
Overton is said to have the most explosive 1st step on the team. I think he could make a tremendous middle guy in the 3 man line.
I expect him to be a stud in the middle.
Striker didn’t look good against Clemson along with a bunch others … Not really fair to judge them on that one performance since Clemson is pretty solid.
I think Dimon will be better. Has a great motor and only gets stronger every year.
I thought Striker looked okay. Made several plays. Maybe he wasn’t dominant, but he played well.
When I saw Dimon on the field I didn’t even recognize him. Apparently he got really sick and dropped 20 lbs, he looked like he was about 240 or so.
Dimon and Ward and Roberts become major factors if we switch to 4 man front. If we stay in 3 then I agree that they are a little undersized.
I found it interesting (and amusing) that everyone thinks that we just adopted a “no punt return policy”. Do any of you realize that that OU returned TWICE as many punts as our opponents? Shepard returned 22 punts this season. Our opponents returned a combined total of 11 in the 13 games we played! So are we going to say that all of our opponents had the same “no return” philosophy as to punt returns, or can we get realistic and realize that there are only so many punts that can safely be returned. I can’t think of many, if any, punts that Shepard fair caught when he had plenty of room to safely catch the punt, secure the ball, and then gain positive yards.
My problem with our punt returns is that we NEVER rush the opposing kicker thus allowing them to get off their best punt return without any fear of a rush. This alone almost guarantees no punt return as the punter can take his time and get plenty of hang time. I also think that Bob hates the block in the back penalties and the fear of the occasional fumble.
Agree, of the 22 returns, Shepard put the ball on the ground (at least) 3 times that I can specifically recall, losing 2 of them. Not a very good percentage.
Good point. Might be a case of perception not being reality.
Just because we returned more punts than anyone else doesn’t mean we had a “return” set up……you can return a punt and still be in punt safe.
We also punted about half the number of times our opponents did. Our opponents returned 19% we returned 24% of the chances. So I am not sure your stats say what you want. You also need to look at how many of the punts were “returnable.” Almost half of OU’s punts were either touch backs or inside the 20.
That’s my whole point! A very low percentage of punts, both by us and our opponents, are actually “returnable”. It’s not so much that we refused to return punts as many on here, including JE, are suggesting. It’s that there aren’t that many opportunities to safely return punts.
One of the biggest things that I’ll be watching this off-season is if we are able to hold on to Coach Viney. He’s a stud recruiter and the players seem to love him
If we make him a full-time coach, who goes?
I wouldn’t be surprised if we can keep him as a GA this year. If Coach Cooks gets a DC offer next year, then we could potentially promote Viney
The concern is that his time limit is up for him to be a GA.
That could very well be possible. Do you have a specific coach in mind that you would like to see moved to a non-coach spot?
Since I have never suggested we replace an existing coach with Viney, the answer is no.
We will have to “create” a non-coach spot for someone else to keep him as a true coach. I think Bob Edwards has it – his GA time is up.
There are only 3 options(a 4th involves making Gundy the recruiting director only and not a coach but seems highly unlikely) as we sit here today as I see it! We let Mike coach all LBs and move Kish(if we move to a 4-3 or 4-2 as some have suggested this may be best), We let Simmons coach all WRs move Gundy to RBs & TEs and Boulware out, or let Gundy coach all WRs and Simmons out! I am not saying any of these are good ideas or ideal circumstances but I do agree we need to try and keep Coach Viney. I am surprised we haven’t heard something because I thought his time was up in Dec or at least after the last game.
I agree that those are the viable options, but I strongly believe that none of those options are going to happen, nor should they. Your don’t get rid of a good coach to just gain a good recruiter. Great coaching trumps great recruiting every time. Monty is a perfect example. Or perhaps John Blake is an even better example. If Viney leaves, our recruiting could suffer slightly. But I’m afraid that our coaching would drop off even more. (With the possible exception of Boulware. Not sure what he brings to the table). Lol!
I actually agree with you. Hell hath frozen over. 😉
Correct me if I’m remembering incorrectly but it seems to me that the 1st year that Boulware took over Special teams from Bob Stoops that we had a Much improved Special teams performance. Don’t know who is the Special teams coach now.
I’d like to see somebody else get a shot at Ahmad’s spot. I’ve seen him come up and whiff entirely too many times on tackles and I think we’ve seen all we’re going to see out of him. He’s not a playmaker. He doesn’t look particularly fast or athletic to me, and his tackling skills are below par.
I think Haughton will battle him for it
He’ll have to play worse than he has to lose his spot as a senior (I think).
Football good. Me like OU. 🙂
Thanks for the post, Jordan!
thank you for reading
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Gawd I hope we don’t! When you play a round-robin schedule, there is no need for a playoff. When you have 12-14 teams like the other conferences have, the teams in their conference championship game most often have not played each other before. It would be a huge mistake if we adopt one with our 10 team format, IMO. Just schedule big-time matchups for Championship Saturday and hope for the best. It would be downright stupid for OU to beat Baylor on the last weekend, and then have to turn around and play them again at Jerry World the following weekend. Chances are you he two teams split, and both get knocked out of the playoffs. Hopefully common sense on this will prevail.
Exactly the way I view this. Glad the option is there but I feel it would knock us out more often than put us in. Expand or get out.
I agree that we need to expand, but in the interim, I am not afraid of competition. Bring it on! If we had another game during the conference championship weekend, Baker may have had a chance to be in NYC.
And why would you expect common sense to prevail given the current B12 leadership
That’s too bad.
Great I look forward to us playing one of them bums across the red twice in one season. Fun.
A playoff in a ten-team conferece is ridiculous.
Sheesh, has no one started the Alex Ross will surely transfer rumors yet? :-0
I think the depth and experience on both sides of the ball should overcome most of the losses. As always, it’s gonna depend upon the maturation process of some of the kids, but there’s good reason to be optimistic.
Everyone on the radio seems to be jumping on the “look what a great game” alabama’s tight end had. For some reason no one bothers to add that any tight end is gonna look great if the defender assigned to him blows the coverage and comes up to the line, letting the tight end run free. IMHO, his performance and stats only looked good because of the ridiculous breakdowns in Clemson;s coverage, which were in part because of their number one coverage guy leaving the game injured. Maybe he ran great routes or made a contested catch at some point during the game, but all I remember is him running untouched 10 yards from the nearest defender.
On the other hand, the guy who should really be getting credit is the walk on wr for Clemson, Renfroe who continually out battled and outplayed Bama’s top cover guy. He was spectacular all game long, contested play after play.
I’m not gonna micro manage Mike’s defensive scheme. As I mentioned in a previous post, his results this season were terrific, and if you truly want to say that he was doing it with less than great talent, then it was unbelievably good. Just compare his results against Clemson and consider how much support he got from his offense in doing so.
WR will indeed be a question mark and extremely critical to the season. I think Westbrook will be the anchor guy, he sure seems to have the talent for it.
Special teams were excellent on coverage for the most part, but quite obviously need serious help on blocking for returns, both punt and kick. Maybe BJW can come in as a consultant…:-)
I will be interested to see if Bob is satisfied with the changes that he’s made so far. I think for the most part he will and should be. The only issue is whether he wants to make a minor tweak here or there. If so, it will be fascinating to see what occurs.
Especially if you take into account that Clemson torched us for 530 yards, and then turned around and torched “the best front 7 of all time” for 550 yards. Only difference was Bama’s offense could score.
exactly. and made it look pretty easy, btw.
According to ESECPN the big 12 can hold a title game now. Sorry just read a few posts down.
Regarding the o-line: Just like the difference between last year’s secondary and this year’s, the o-line will have several key guys with lots of freshman and sophomore experience returning. The o-line is one of the places where maturity and experience are huge, especially in this era of facing so many “multiple” defenses. Add to that, the O-line coach is as good as they come-(see Darlington’s comments on his blog, for one reference).
I think the o-line will be dramatically improved in all areas of concern next season.
Not that I am attempting to disagree, but what does Darlington know? Has he played anywhere but OU? I do think that Bedenbaugh is top notch. Mostly because other coaches that have history with B has nothing but good things to say about the man. Just thinking to myself what contrast to Bedenbaugh does Darlington have to judge against.
Okay, I’ll take a stab at “what does Ty know,” and why he knows it. 🙂 Bedenbaugh is not the only coach he’s had at OU, and while it may or may not be relevant he’s been exposed to various coaches as a kid, up through high school as well. In spite of whatever issues the online community sometimes has with them, the OU coaching staff is and has been staffed with quite a few high quality coaches. Ty is clearly a bright kid. His academic awards and the comments of everyone around him speak to that. His coaches have waxed poetic, and not just this season either, about his knowledge and awareness of what’s going on on the field. He is also the son of a successful high school coach, so he has been exposed all his life to the coaching “mentality” and, most likely, what might go into making a good one. Finally, he’s not the kind of kid who could just coast by on pure natural talent and athletic ability. He’s had to take advantage of every coaching and mental edge he could to achieve what he has achieved. As a result, I really do think when he offers an over the top opinion that “Coach Bill Bedenbaugh absolutely demolished my previous perceptions upon his arrival. Under his tutelage, my eyes were opened…” I think that far more likely than not, it comes from a knowledgeable perspective.
Music, thank you for the insightful response. I didn’t mean the question as a knock by any means. Just that he has had only a few coaches to gather his opinion from. I guess my real question should have been, Was our previous O-line coach that bad or is Bedenbaugh that good? I believe that it is a mixture of both, with a lean to the Bedenbaugh is that good. On the other hand, I also think that when a kid steps up to the collegiate level, he should be wowed to some degree. Just some random thoughts on my part.
What’s status on Bobbie Evans?
OU OSwho game thread up
What ever happened to….Antoine Stephens? Never expected much from the kid, but curious if he’s still with the team?
He was a true freshman and redshirted. Any reason you’d think it was no longer w/ the team?
Saw this on another board… Anyone able to confirm? “CJ Ah You just took a DL position at Vandy. This hopefully puts Chip Viney on staff.”
I don’t think our recruiting over the past years gives us much to be super hopeful in terms of the youth. We have a load of 3 and 4 stars not a load of 4 and 5 star athletes. We got kicked around by Clemson because they simply have better athletes. We DO NOT HAVE THE ELITE CALIBER ATHLETES WE NEED TO WIN NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS. And I cannot bark it loud enough. The Big 12 is going to prevent us from ever having those types of teams again.
The Big 12 is, at best a great Mid Major conference now. Great now we have a conference championship game. Who cares. The conference is not competitive on the national stage any more. Baylor is a “cute” team who is just an investigation from being thrown back to the dark ages of football. I have little doubt that Briles will eventually get smoked by his NCAA violations. TCU has a great coach and is starting to compete with OU for the best talent in the DFW area. Texas is what Texas has always been an over inflated bunch of wind bags and the ‘Pokes are the ‘Pokes. What else do we have. KU, ISU both suck. West Virginia is alright and KSU pisses some people off from time to time. Tech has a joke as a head coach. Our conference is terrible and it will hold us back from being an Elite Caliber team.
Bama’s defense, full of the elite athletes you’re talking about, got torched for 550 yards by Clemson, compared to our 530 yards, and they gave up 3 more points. Keep barking about how sh*tty the conference is chicken little.
That “cute” Baylor team ran over UNC to the tune of about 1000 yards rushing and TCU came back and beat Oregon but “we’re not competitive on a national staaaaage!”
Agree. Yes, Clemmy had an advantage in the trenches, but with Walker that advantage would have been less, and besides, OU had advantages elsewhere on the field. A couple of plays here and there and this game could have gone well into the 4th quarter. We can compete playing out of this conference.
You need to just stop.
The thing about next year for me is that we won’t be able to “sneak up” on anyone. We came in way under the radar in 2015. Nobody expected much out of us, and we performed like we always do when that happens. Next year will be completely different. We will have everyone’s undivided attention. Defensive coordinators will have a years worth of film on Mayfield and our offense. We’re going to have to be much better next year than we were this year or we could very easily lose 4 or 5 games.
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I’m late to this, but am i the only one who thought we reverted to the Pre-Texas offense in the playoff game? I didn’t see Joe and Sam in the backfield hardly at all. Joe was split out alot. Also, I’m wondering how much Brooks being out made RIley cautious to put them both back there.
Accurate assessment in my mind. A lot of known unknowns. That said, BOOMER!
Jordan I can understand where you’re coming from but I have to disagree. The coaching staff has had one season to see what they have and to bring their ideas to fruition. I get that. A player like Shep, no matter where he lined up drew everyone’s attention especially our QB. Other receivers were an afterthought. Tight end is a still an unexplored posibility, yet we have the guys to change that.
We were just too beat up to say we were at 100% for the final 4. I’ll take coachable 3 and 4 star kids all day everyday over a 5 star with some ego issues. We have too many really good players coming in to compliment the current roster to go all doomsday. Coaches Bill B and Riley will have things more dialed in. We did start 3 freshman O-Linemen didn’t we? I think this past year is a rebirth step in national prominence. OU was one of 128 FBS teams to make the final 4. This is a beginning.
Ohio State is already preparing for the Sooners’ “Air Raid” by watching our UT game and Clemson game?