Open Post | Monday, Jan. 5th (UPDATE 6:38 pm)
Posted on: January 5, 2015
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– Antoine Stephens: OU has offered 2015 DB, Antoine Stephens out of Kimball HS in Dallas. He is very interested in Oklahoma however he is receiving interest from a number of schools including Auburn and Mississippi State.
Stephens played wide receiver last year and was converted to cornerback by the new defensive backs coach at Kimball. Stephens shined as a defensive back using his length, speed and physicality to terrorize wide receivers.
Stephens is planning on visiting Oklahoma in this month.
– UPDATE (10:51 am): Also, we wanted to add that OU linebacker target, Josh Smith out of Tennessee has told he will visit Oklahoma in January. He will visit the first weekend after the dead period which ends on the 15th. Smith is being recruited by coach Jerry Montgomery.
– UPDATE (10:57 am): Another LB note as Arthur McGinnis has confirmed a Jan. 30th visit to Norman via his Twitter.
– UPDATE (11:12 am): Wanted to add that coach Bob Stoops made the offer to Antoine Stephens.
– UPDATE (1:59 pm): As we told you in this morning’s daily links post, there is nothing to worry about with regards to 2015 WR commit John Humphrey.
– UPDATE (6:38 pm): OU has sent out a release stating Bob Stoops will hold an ‘end of season’ press conference tomorrow at 11am. There were no other details provided, so take that however you will.
616 Comments
Interesting….
Love the work you guys are putting in! OU also made stud 2016 LB Michael Divinity’s top 5 last night! Any chance we could get a brief breakdown of the similarities/differences between Kareem Orr, Darreyl Patterson and Antoine Stephens?
Interestng on Divinity. 6’2 200 out of Louisiana and LSU didn’t make his top 5. Doesn’t mean they won’t get back in. OU in early on some top LBs like Caleb Kelly.
We need a “Mean” and “Nasty” Mike LB. IS there such a recruit available this late in the process?
Isn’t Shannon the Mike?
I thought that was Dom Alexander
Yes
Can’t be mean and nasty if you aren’t playing…not for sure yet. PLus, that’s not his demeaner nor his size.
TFB, How soon can we expect the next coaching shoe to drop? I know you don’t want to release names (although saying Tim Kish’s name isn’t news to anyone), but can you give a timeframe? Hours, days, weeks?
Yes, some of us are waiting breathlessly
I think today. First day back for University employees I believe…
think JE mentioned the coaches were due back on Wed. could be confused on my part though
You are correct, next staff meeting on Wednesday.
I was thinking terms of payroll support staff etc, not necessarily coaches.
days
So there must be truth to Mike running a 3-1-7 next season? I would like dalton and Stephens out of the 4 remaining.
Thoughts on Patterson out of Lawton?
Think he was just waiting on qualifying score…. Then got the offer
Since OU had so many irons in the fire, to offer Patterson means they would take him if he said yes even if they would rather has some of these other offers?
I would assume (especially with Bob offering) he was one they wanted to get, but didn’t want to risk not qualifying & OU needing DBs
Agree. Maybe, with Bob liking him, he and Mike disagree on DBs? At this point I’m wondering what is keeping Patterson from committing. Thought he loved OU. He might also get a try at WR/slot.
Maybe he just wants his moment to pick. Maybe he’s one of the silent commits, with the “as long as you qualify” factor from coaches. Idk.
Not sure haven’t seen his film but hes under 6′ I believe. Since dalton may be a hybrid type and switch to safety then I would take all 3. And if we lose a guy to transfer then all 4 but that makes like 8 DBs in one class
Stephens intrigues me the most. I get the feeling if he can be coached up, he could really surprise. He looks like a real up and comer. One gets the feeling we have barely seen what he can do there.
Yay! Go Jerry go
Will Monty get a promotion to Co-DC?
I don’t know about that but I bet $$$$$
No more co-clown titles please.
How many more DBs you guys think OU takes?
30.
For the win
Feel better about Josh Smith if Monty is also in on him…
FYI, Arthur McGinnis is visiting OU the final weekend – Jan 30th
i m in the front seat of the Dwaine Thomas train.
Is Josh Smith the Vandy commit?
yep
Last I read he was still very very much attached to Vandy.
Also… anymore on the “mystery” recruit that visited during one of the OU home games?
Has McGinnis visited OU before?
Nope…not yet.
Why do we keep hearing about DB’s? Do we really need 6-7 in this class?
Why aren’t we seeing offers like this on LB’s?
2 classes with no safeties, no depth at CB
Parker from last year. Bird the year before. But certainly no depth at DB.
except Parker was brought in to start immediately. Bird seems to be developing slowly. I say yes, we need lots of DBs
My take on Bird is he is one of these guys who got by on speed for a long time and is now having to learn how to read keys and play within a complex scheme. That;s not just Bird but is the case for a lot of guys. Micah Quick is in the same camp. Both are out of Fresno Central (my part of CA) who tend to just out athlete most teams.
Dakota Austin, Jordan Thomas, Marcus Green, Windham.. Those guys all terrible?
No pun intended…but just green as in inexperienced. They can be coached up.
No, not terrible, but Championship worthy? Doubtful. Besides DBs also includes corners, our corner play was very sub par.
Umm..we havent seen Green and Tito play yet. JT is a very good young corner…
No it was like 10 & 11 that’s why there are ZERO upperclassmen.
It’s very indicative of the talent on the roster(or lack of)
It seems indicative of how they feel about some of the players on campus.
Return to the 4-1-6 heh heh …. I guess we will find out soon enough what it means…
Please tell me that monty bedenbaugh and cale are the main recruiters for every remaining target
and BOB!!!
seems to be the holy quadrinity at the moment. The other dudes have been pretty much on the periphery.
Yes
I think its a good sign we get McGinnis at the end of January possibly his last visit that could be promising.
Yeah I think so too.
Thats the first thing that I thought of too when I saw it but it works opposite on Josh Smith as I believe he has 2 visits after us.
Hoping the rumors were true when he was last supposed to visit but had playoffs that weekend. Multiple sources said he was a likely commit on his visit. If OU can get Smith then McGinnis… and would still like Dwaine Thomas but if the above happens he might get left out.
We need 4 IMO but I would settle for those 2 + Deberry if you call that settling.
Zack, hear what you are saying, but there are 11-12 LB’s already on this roster excluding the seniors. Do you believe there is a lack of LB talent or are they just young?
Add Bob to that!
If they weren’t then maybe these changes wouldn’t be necessary.
Monty = #Boss. Losing him, Coach B or Gundy would be the worst possible outcome.
That being said, I’m not worried about losing recruits as long as we get the right people in place. Stoops has shown he *can* do it with the hirings of these two line coaches so he deserves the benefit of doubt in finding the right person.
If his recent hires are any indication of what we can expect, I would agree. I think the job would be appealing in that each position that is losing its coach has mucho room for improvement and a considerable degree of talent to work with (cupboard is not bare).
No more Martinez, Kittle, or Kish hires please..
Martinez was a mystery hire..we was dismal coming out of Georgia. Kittle was a serious brain fart by Stoops. Having just a OT coach was odd, always thought of the o-line as a unit that much work together if any one of them is to be successful.
I was comparing our coaching arrangement with TCU’s. They have an “Outside WR coach” and an “Inside WR coach”. I thought that was odd.
that is odd. the big 12 runs a lot of rub routes and stacked formations…why split that group up?
I thought his D-line did really well, considering there was no pressure from the LBs being forced to drop back. His players love him and he works em’ hard.
If Bobby made the offer…Kish is all but gone.
Kish is the LB coach. Why would Bob making an offer to a DB indicate that Kish is gone? (I mean he is likely getting fired…but your comment doesn’t make sense)
Perhaps if that player was in Kish’s region, then that might be an indication.
Monty is recruiting Josh… not sure if OP meant that. Either way, when the position coach is not the one doing the recruiting I would think it indicates Kish is not being retained.
Bob personally made the Patterson offer. Dude’s done f’n around. Now, why he waited till we whiffed on Wheeler and Lucier-South…I dunno. OU should never have an issue getting linemen of linebackers. Kish was an abysmal hire and everybody watched him degenerate before our eyes this year.
I’ll bet Bob’s (or whoever the new position coach is) on the phone with Wheeler the second the dead period ends.
I know we are targetting a lot of DBs still, but in the pass happy Big 12, we need to possibly be 4 deep with quality CBs, so I dont have a problem with taking a CB if they are skilled enough. I know we need LBs too, but I have a feeling we would likely play more DBs than LBs fro a lot of Big 12 games as outside of KSU and maybe Texas, almost every Big 12 team favors passing (I know Baylor runs well but their running seems much more a benefit from their deadly passing game).
Bob gives Mike an extension and we return to Mikes 3-0-8 alignment.
Stephens likes #14 eh? If he can play CB as well as the last guy who wore #14 there, am all for it.
Could someone shed some light on why Boulware would be getting axed? The Special Teams were a definite improvement from when Bob Stoops was Special Teams coach. TE development couldn’t be judged because JH rarely used them effectively.
Lastly the repunt vs OSU is on Bob Stoops and I doubt the continuing punt fair catches were Boulware’s decision.
Yeah I actually don’t want Boulware to go.
…and why was the punt return never an option? just fair catch after fair catch…
Frustrating
Seems like more talk of saxet hiring him (alum) rather than him being fired.
hope not.
You’ve got it.
I looked at the BON yesterday. Wescott doesn’t even mention Boulware in his list of possible candidates.
I would disagree. Apart from some good kickoff returns, the Special Teams were not very good. Punt returns and the kicking game in general. Some big break downs in special teams throughout the year.
Also, you need to remember he’s the TE coach too. Missed on every TE target. Has only landed a JUCO TE that may never see the field and an in-state guy. He’s settling this year for an in-state, converted QB with no offers (however, I really like Dalton and think he will be great…but he was still plan B or C).
Lastly, if you let Boulware go, you would be opening up a spot on the staff for another young, hungry recruiter.
IMO – he’s not a the top of the list of people to let go…
Blocked extra point attempts should NOT happen!
Boulware inherited almost everyone, and was not given much leash on matters such as punt return decisions. He inherited a very mediocre punter (thats putting it mildly), a kicker who was already entrenched, and a coverage unit that aside from one or two big returns, were pretty sound.
If he can pick his own punt returner next year and is green lighted to allow him to return punts, am fine with Boulware. I didnt see any issues with his effort to recruit. Its hard to pick up blue chip TE prospects to play in an offense when we use them as an OL or FB blocker.
Did you notice the change in scheme on punt returns? Like our DBs, we don’t bump anyone on the line of scrimmage. This does not help you punt returner in the slightest.
Why bump anyone if we’re just fair catching every punt? Its not like the opposing gunner can tackle Shep if he calls fair catches all the time.
Bama and Arkansas benefit from being in the SEC and recruiting from powerhouse states they habitually succeed in. And I should clarify – Boulware’s hardly had a chance to bring in his own TEs. When he was hired, he had slim pickings. I prefer to judge Boulware’s coaching acumen on how he got a QB to become a starting TE in one offseason. I actually felt Bell showed enough glimpses at TE this year to get a look in the NFL as a TE. If someone told me that before this last season, I’d have laughed at them.
Boulware leaving is speculation as far as I know. He is from Irving TX. Some hav speculated that he moves around a lot and may want to join Strong in Texas. Perhaps TFB have more on it.
There is a theory that it is more effective to block an on-coming defensive guy than chase him from behind. So you don’t line up on the scrimmage. This prevents blocking in the back calls. While the punt return was ineffective, loss of yards due to penalties seemingly declined.
Bama and Arkansas are two examples that utilize TEs primarily as blockers…and they get elite TE prospects.
Wasn’t Hunter Henry Arky’s leading receiver this season? If not, he was definitely one of them.
Go rewatch the end of the OSU game. Check which coach it was that unilaterally told the officials that OU wanted to re-punt, without checking with Bob first.
Watch Bob react to said coach when he finds out what he’d just done…
Dont really want to rewatch… are you saying that Boulware told the refs to re-kick? Bob said in the presser that it was his decision.
Bob may very well have said that because he doesn’t throw assistants under the bus, but he was CLEARLY upset at Boulware immediately after Boulware spoke to the ref (and before they repunted). I seem to recall him mouthing something along the lines of “What the hell did you just do?”
According to BS post game presser, he wanted to re-punt. Jay was only communicating that to the referee. That game was last year okay? It’s 2015…
(1) I didn’t bring it up in a vacuum, I was answering the guy’s question.
(2) Cameras clearly showed Bob get visibly angry at Boulware after Boulware spoke to the ref, so I think that’s just Bob “taking responsibility” and not throwing Jay under the bus.
When I saw it happen live, I immediately thought “If we lose this game because of that repunt, Boulware will be the looking for a job real, real soon…”
On my list of people I want to see gone, it is (in order) Kish, Boulware, Norvell, BJW (moved to recruitment position, technically)
http://youtu.be/3-ZUDtaGf3I … Thought the exact same thing and my list of coaches axed is identical. However, What about moving BJW to Director of Football Operations and radio commentator… Ol’ Merv Johnson your my boy blue but its time to let it go! JH might be included if we could swing an insane QB/WR coach duo though!!
If Bob Stoops would lie to cover up an assistants error we’ll never escape the hole we’re in.
Give me a single example of a time Bob Stoops blamed any specific position coach for ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING…
He didn’t blame him and did take the heat onto himself for “miscommunication,” but he did make it clear that Boulware called for the punt block, when he (Stoops) had signaled for a return in the Baylor game.
I see the points, but I think Boulware is one of the coaches that can be a part of, and mover towards, a National Championship run (s).
Not sure about getting axed but texas (his Alma matter I believe) is rumored to be interested in hiring him away.
Re Stephens: Finds the ball very well, puts his shoulder into the tackle- just simply stoned ball carriers. Early plays he seems to bait the QB more than I would like instead of just playing his man. Looks very natural at CB.
Has there been any updates on Frank Shannon? Will he be around next year?
Have* …
Suspended until May I believe, he has been doing some recruiting so it looks possible.
hadn’t heard about him recruiting that is good news.
The rumor was that he had a long conversation with fellow Skyline LB Anthony Wheeler the night before Wheeler committed to Texas. Not exactly sure if that supports or hurts the theory that Shannon may be returning.
get off my cloud man! lol 🙂
In talking to people I’m getting the impression there is a good chance of that happening.
If he was in Wheelers ear as much as TFB said he was then I think that would indicate he has every intention of returning.
Heard that Boulware has been involved in the recruitment of Stephens as well…so maybe he stays.
Super K (and others) – Check out Jay Jay Wilson’s film – Would love for this kid to get an offer as an ILB in our 3-4 scheme…
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/534722/highlights/210112406
JMO it it will be hard to keep the 3-4, due to our LB depth currently…
Would like to see some freshmen push Sanchez for playing time….I think that would cause Sanchez to elevate his game.
Sanchez is not the problem.
seconded, but does need to stop trying to blast people with his shoulder, and focus on basic wrap up tackling
Sanchez’s tackling improved after the WVU game. I don’t know why people didn’t see that.
could be right, just “Seemed” to happen after that i guess
Plus, I think his shoulder was injured for a while. dont remember the exact time, but definately noticed he was gun shy on one side
He is not, but he has room to improve. He locks down his man then the safeties can rotate over to help out the other side. If he became like Colvin then the secondary would be trending upwards.
I think we can all agree that Colvin was a special player that probably could have been a late first or second round pick.
Sanchez will never be as good as Colvin. I would, however, settle for 3 or 4 Sanchez level DBs, rather than 1 Colvin and the players we have been throwing out lately.
Obligatory “But Colvin was a 3 Star” comment 😀
Sanchez is a problem. He is not physical enough to tackle larger receivers. It looks like he is afraid at times. He tries to go for the big play instead of doing what is necessary to minimize gains. Because of this, he gets beat for chunk plays. He has a good reputation only because he had the tendency to get interceptions. When he is not getting interceptions he is getting beat. He is vastly overrated, and I would love to see someone replace him.
Suster, I couldn’t agree more ……….the best part of Sanchez’s game is his mouth….
Your comment indicates that you don’t watch the games. Sorry. But when you make All Big 12 that’s a big deal against those offenses. Everyone gets beat now and then. But he is quality.
I made a post a while ago on this. I get the general disdain on his tackling, but Sanchez leads the B12 in the # of tackles and yes interceptions, beating out Worley, Qundrey Diggs. and Sam Carter. He IS the best CB in the B12 and probably top 10 in the country. Also was a mid-season All American and Thorpe award semi finalist. Could he improve? Absolutely! However, to call him overrated is being ridiculous and way off-base. Facts and numbers speak for themselves.
I agree with the guys below that Sanchez is not the problem, but I couldn’t agree with you more. I WANT COMPITITION FOR EVERY SPOT! I WANT HUNGRY GUYS TRYING TO TAKE YOUR SPOT EVERY WEEK! Nothing is given, everything is earned!!!!
I think Stoops already does that…recall that Sanchez started over Cortez Johnson as a true freshman. Jordan Thomas played some this year too and shows flashes of brilliance.
Re: Stephens could be a great pick up, especially if he can PR/KR as well 🙂
I hate to see coaches go, and wish them well. But, I’ve got to say, I’m liking the vibe right about now!!
Lovely post and well articulated! (trying to make up for last time! LOL!)
Thanks for the complement, much better than your swift kick to the nadskies!
Anyone hear of Amad Thomas or Hatari Byrd moving to LB?
Heard rumors but nothing in print so far confirming it! Personally don’t see how it would help anything but possibly depth. Those two guys are smaller LB types and Alexander and Evans are just a bit bigger but have a ton more experience. IMO we need a couple more 6’2″ – 6’4″ 225-245lb ILB to help this defense out not more 6’3″ 200-210lb LBs added to our group!
The rub is that the larger Mike-type LB have trouble in coverage. Well except in the Bama scheme…but Bama got torched…
OH I DEFINATELY AGREE! I was just saying it seems we have a plethora of “Will” style LBs. I would like to get a good old fashion middle LB like DePreist from bama. More in the mold of a Shannon coming back or Deberry (especially after a year in OUs weight room)
Has Bob offered Dwaine Thomas yet?
no
No but we need him. Im strongly considering printing up Oklahoma U Stationary and sending him an offer myself.
TFB mentioned WKU’s Tyson Helton was a possible candidate to replace Norvell. That may not be the case for much longer. I read that he & Kurt Roper may be interviewing for UGA’s OC position.
Kurt has local ties. He graduated from Ardmore high school and was the QB on their state championship team in the early 90’s. He played QB at Rice.
I believe that was reported along with the report about OU. So not necessarily new.
Antoine Stephens looks very impressive on film, good instincts, play maker, and very physical. And, as important, he looks like a guy who could compete for playing time immediately.
Shames hale just said that ou hasn’t contacted spavital at all. Gotta think he’s wrong or all the rumors of him in norman are false.
Rumors are rumors. Any credible sightings?
Lots of smoke. But hale went on to say ou hadn’t contacted anyone yet. I’ve got to think he’s just not being told the truth.
I think you are right. Listening to him now.
But the way things like this work OU has someone outside the organization contact the guys agent. That way they can say they did not contact anyone. Then if there is interest, they will talk to the school where the other guy works and ask for permission to talk to him. Avoids a lot of legal issues that way. So it may be true that no one from OU has contacted one of these guys. Doesn’t mean that a booster hasn’t talked to his agent to gauge his level of interest.
He is delusional enough to think Stoops would call and let him know the guys he is talking too! Like OU wants it broadcasted if they get turned down by anybody.
Exactly. He said the report about muschamp is false and that the “only 3 coaches are safe” was an opinion of that reporter.
Shames Fail: “Cause I always have to steal my Credit cards from you!” “I always have to steal my credit cards from you.”
Rule number 1…Don’t listen to James Hale
Rule #2 – See Rule #1
Lol I listen to him at times between commercials but man I couldn’t believe he is telling people that ou hasn’t contacted anyone. Would you fire norvell if you didn’t think you had someone in line or someone’s in line. I wouldn’t.
Nope, he is either being told to say that or he actually believes Bob runs personnel decisions by him first.
No kidding right. Lol
The more I think about it, I don’t think JH is going anywhere. I’d like Scott Frost. Perhaps JH/MS will stay.
I will be HIGHLY disappointed if they both stay. Gawd, I’m gonna be sick just thinking of it.
I know. But this is just a feeling. Do you really think MS can’t coach D in the Big 12 any longer? I mean, when you get older like what happened with Monty Kiffin and C2…that can happen. The innovations on offense surpass a coaches knowledge level. But this soon? BV’s defense at OU ranked worse than MS in his last year. Or is it just better to bring in new blood?
I think the game has passed the Stoops defensive scheme. They’re a step behind. They might be up to snuff in the B1G, but the spread has them over the barrel. New blood is needed…on BOTH sides of the ball. This program is becoming a mutant with all the recycling of the same blood (kinda like inbreeding)…only not the cool X-Men type of mutant.
Seems that way. But who is stopping Baylor, TCU, Oregon, even OU in a down year averaged 36 points. Perhaps there are a limited number of schemes that can be consistent against the spread. I’d like a change if BS thinks that is needed.
JH is gonna just be QB coach unless they can figure out a way around his contract.
Other site reporting that Boulware, not Bob, made the Stephens offer
I think I’ll trust the TFB.
on os……..macnamara asks for release………
OS?
other site……
Mac never gained weight, could not beat out Bell. It’s better for him to leave.
apparently there’s a case for getting somewhat shafted by boulware
And just why is that?
At least this would give young guys like Meier and Andrews some extra reps.
unless they find themselves in the same situation in an o where the te is an afterthought a/o the qb can’t find the te or make the throw……remember, andrews came here as a highly recruited wr
True. Either way though, less people=more reps. How much that actually helps OU in the end is another topic.
Wow the well has run dry on the coaching rumors. I’m guessing “imminent” was use loosely.. 😀
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1.
about to happen.
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Some of us, I won’t say should, but maybe would be fit, to work as Stoops’s secretary, or something. I could see myself just really being on point at the office (Switzer Center) right now.
No lack of focus at the moment, eh?
Caught me.
More will come out in the next week. I can’t see us going past next Wednesday without having all positions filled. Dead period ends on the 15th and our coaches will be running around for 10 days straight.
There are a lot of big schools looking for the same replacements we are. Since several of the guys we are linked to rumors with haven’t signed with anyone yet, I’m sure right now there’s a ton going on behind the scenes. I think we’ll hear more in the next day or two. I’m just curious why the Norvell thing happened by itself without others at the same time unless maybe he had another opportunity before the others.
Maybe it was not supposed to be let out yet.
With Monty recruiting Josh Smith, I feel very confident in our ability to land him!
Second that thought.
Merv Johnson is saying that the scheme of offense that MS has had to combat is nearly impossible to defend. it comes down to having DB’s that are better than the opponents WR. Hence, does MS have to go?
I agree with what Merv is saying, but that doesn’t mean you cant slow it down. DB’s need to be able to man up on the outside and press cover the WR. (Not give 10 yards cushion and then back out at snap) LB’s need to be better in coverage to prevent the over the middle short passes that have killed us as these are very hard to stop or slow from a DB perspective but very doable with the help of good LB play.
Which I would agree with if we haven’t seen those offenses be shut down or at least contained.
We have alowed O’s to break records against us, alot……way to da$# much. Something isn’t working.
And this is one of the key issues. While it may be hard to stop B12 offenses. We were eighth out of ten in the B12. If we were first and still struggling to stop them, Merv might have a point. But let’s at least be near the top of the league, before we use the “its the offenses” excuse.
It is true that if you have the better player in every match up on the field you will win consistently. However, that is seldom true except for when the best teams match up against the worst teams. Where good coaching comes into play is in developing a game plan that allows you take advantage of your good match ups and forcing your opponent to rely on lesser match ups. This is why the folks that say it is all about the players are just as wrong as the one that say it is all about the coaches. You need good coaches to find good players and put them in a position to win.
In the case of Mike, he was short on experience in the DB’s this year. But they seemed to get worse as the year went along. Mike seems to be out of ideas on how to stop these offenses and this come across in his interviews. He probably needs to let someone else have a chance to bring in some new ideas.
Simply have to beat those offenses. It can be done: who can do it, is the search. But it can be done, and I’m sticking to that.
Perhaps impossible to shut down. Schemes can do wonders.
If a team averages 42 points per game and a defense holds them to 20-28, then I’d say that’s a good defensive performance.
Merv is doing MS a solid based on the situation. However, it’s one thing to get beat by a good throw while defending, but how many times are opponents scoring easy td’s because guys are out of position or just plain schooled?
schooled, the right term for the defensive situation.
K State does it with 2 stars far better then we do. They take all sorts of players turned down by other teams and make them successful. But they work long hours as coaches to get there. We’re “family friendly” for our coaches.
No scheme is impossible to defend. That’s why some teams go 12-1 in our conference and others go 8-5. Besides, Mike Stoops has been trying to solve his woes with more DBs. If he’d focus on the front 7 and start attacking the opposition, the CBs and safeties would look a lot better than they do now. WVU decided to attack Petty all day even with their sorry D and beat Baylor 41-27.
I feel like some big news will be coming out pretty soon. seems like when the brainiacs are quiet for a little bit they always resurface with something major. I hope my feeling on this is correct. Anyone else feel that way?
Scott Frost signs with OU after the NCG
Interesting thought. He would be the guy at #1 from my fan seat view.
Mine too, he or Doug Meachem
agreed, however by position it would a lateral move, and well OREGON is in a good spot, OU would have to pony up alot $$$$$ to get him.
My after-post thought here ^.
Wonder what the number would be to get him
He makes $205 k less than Heupel.
We’ve come a long way if we could bring a Cornhusker into the fold!
I don’t mind that part of it.
Me neither, just remember back in the Big Eight days despising them as much as the clusters down South…
I wish they’d never left now, Im betting they do too
Heard rumblings of a hint of a rumor somewhere that they (Nebraska) wish they hadn’t left.
Would take them back in a heartbeat
Agreed
Yep
Yes, f’ing, please. Frost and Pendergast. I guess those guys would be good…
Frost is a great OC but the fact that he has Mariotta and speed to burn WRs and RBs doesnt hurt his reputation at all. I think he would do well at OU but with the current roster not as well as he’s doing now.
true OU doesnt have elite speed all over the field, but they do have quite a bit of talent even if it’s not being developed properly particularly at WR and QB
You betcha…
Please tell me the comment about Spavital has nothing to do with him as an OC? I live in college station and heard all year how they all wanted him gone
I wouldn’t be keen on any potentiate coaches yet, as far as hiring goes. So, thank fully, I don’t think you, or I, have anything to worry about with Spavital coming in.
No way, no since taking an OC who isnt ready when you already have one that isn’t ready
J hump still a Sooner
huh? Come again?
Humphrey
Okay, yeah.
Humprey just tweeted he is still a Sooner
LOL
Manny Diaz to Miss State. Ha!
Oops.
Maybe he is an improved coordinator. See about it in August.
What with all that SEC talent, I could call a game from my couch…to hear ESecPN tell it anyway
You have made your way into the brain center of ESPN.
‘Bob made offer to Stephens’…..Ha! I’m no brain surgeon….but even I can read between those lines.
Hasn’t Sanchez only been here 2 years?
Yeah. So he’s saying he’ll be back for one more year. Guess he doesn’t plan on staying for his senior year.
Has he actually seen film of himself? No way that guy is ready for the NFL.
You’re spot on. He may not even get drafted. Sure he tallied some picks but he gave up more plays than he made.
nfl receivers would eat his lunch……..
Yes, I noted that too. He better be a LOT better next year or he’ll be a sad little 6th round pick.
Yeah or undrafted.
Probably ought to sit down with Tony Jefferson, huh?
Yep. Guess he’s counting on his new position coach to take him to the next level.
Yes and I think Tony’s been saying he wished he had stayed
Saw his little rant on Twitter. Loved every letter of it.
Ok, some saying on Twitter he’s back for his senior year and I didnt think that was right
He is a red-shirt sophomore right now so he has two years of eligibility left. But he could leave by rule this year if he wanted to.
He’s a redshirt sophomore and eligible to leave…my guess is he got he draft card back and just testing the water…don’t blame him…especially with changes coming, I’m sure his spot is open and he’ll have to earn it but he should be able to but still needs to work on tackling
And coverage.
Someone explain to me why Scott Frost would leave the OC position at Oregon to take the OC position at OU?
like someone else said, $
$$$$ and if he came to Norman and changed the offense, how hot of a HC would he be.
He’d be closer to home
The sun comes out here?
JH makes nearly $200K more than him
Wow! Didn’t realize that.
Oklahoma is a step up.
Are you sure? Certainly not after last season’s performance. If he’s looking to turn a program around or elevate it to premier status then OU is the place.
Let’s hope thats what he wants to do.
It may have something to do with the QB as well. With Mariota leaving, Oregon may not be the place to be the OC next year. Not that OU’s QB situation is any better, but it would advantagous to be the guy that elevated a program and not the guy that was at the helm of a declining offense.
You see that quite often with OC’s and even head coaches. One at the top of my head is Urban Meyer when Tim Tebow left.
Do you really think 1 year can takes away blue blood status? 10 can’t even do that ask Bama. They have a long way to go to even be mentioned in the same breath as OU prestige wise. They have had a good 10 year run though I’ll give them that.
Good point. Depending on if your glass is half empty/full, outside of money, “hot” OC’s, DC’s, whatever, have built their reputation(s) on their body of work, and will make careful assessments on opportunities to avoid making catastrophic career mistakes. At the end of an interview, when you’re supposed to ask your potential employer questions, I’m sure we’re getting asked plenty, and hope WE have good answers. Regardless, I like our chances of landing top tier candidates, because we’re freakin OU.
My thinking is that yes, we are freakin OU but a lot of other schools now have a pretty good brand. Times have changed. We can no longer assume we’ll get the best or be the best just because we’re OU. That being said, I still feel really good about who Bob will bring in on both sides of the ball.
Branding, branding, branding. One of the legs of a champion stool.
There is a thought that Oregon’s success on O dates back to Chip Kelly or his HC at the time he became the OC. Frost by moving to OU could forge his own identity and the next step would be HC.
And $$$$. He only makes $400k at Oregon.
I not a fan of bringing in any kids to learn a new position with the state of the program right now. Especially with maybe the worst Secondary ever at OU.
another 4*** from Florida just committed to texas ( 7th Fla prepster to UT in this class) . Appreciate Charles Strong leaving some players in the metroplex for us.
You live in Miami?
Good for Texas. How many of those players did OU offer? I couldn’t find any. You seem to know quite a bit about Texas though. Your comments seemed to alternate between how great Texas is doing and how terrible OU is.
Hopefully this rubs some Tx high school coaches the wrong way.
With the sec and texas rubbing texas HS kids the wrong way, it’s time to focus more on texas since it looks like our Cali pipeline may be dry.
Teddy Lehman pointed out that Gus Bradley built the Seattle D and was no 1. He went to Jacksonville and is running the same scheme. Jacksonville was ranked 27th out of 32 in D! What’s the difference? “PLAYERS.” Whoever is in charge of recruiting or advocates for a player to be signed is to blame.
Who brings in players? Coaches (or GMs in the NFL). We need coaches who can bring in quality players and then coach them up right.
If Mike Stoops left for LSU, they’d probably be the #1 D next year because Chavis left a boatload of talent behind. But Venables & Shipp left a pretty empty cupboard, and Mike’s not been able to stock it worth a damn either. Better with defensive line talent, just as poor in the secondary, and worse at linebacker. End result is no net gain in talent from an already declining talent pool.
Okay then fire MS for lack of recruiting ability. It’s not the schemes as the example of Gus Bradley shows.
Our philisophy & technique need to change, but I’m perfectly on board with doing that very thing. You’ll get no argument here against firing staff who aren’t cutting it. Mike Stoops isn’t cutting it.
I’m not sure about the three-man front. I know they use it in the NFL but the LBs are massive human being. I always got sick to my stomach when I saw areas that seemed exposed. I want LBs who run down hill and stuff the play. So, with that said, give me the four-man defensive line.
I don’t mind the 3 man front, but I’m okay with the 4 man front too. The problem I have with how we’re using the 3 man front is our MLBs need to be in the 245-255 lb range (T Marshall, R Calmus, T Lehman size) while our OLBs need to be smaller and faster like Striker. Also, we need to use it to attack and disrupt the flow of the offense. We don’t attack from the different angles enough, and usually only brought the 3 DLs & Striker, so QBs had all day to throw this year. If we have a physical, strong front 7 that can disrupt, we use our CBs in tight man coverage, suddenly our secondary looks a lot better.
Very good and valid points.
Jordan Evens is as big as Calmus and within 5 lbs of Lehman. I think Evens can be good. Remember, Corey Nelson, before he got hurt, was playing at an AA level. Even with his injury was late round draft and played some for Denver this year. I agree with size, but as Nate Newton said last week after Ohio St vs. Bama….”Alabama’s LB’s are fat”… I took that as slow. I will take a Corey Nelson or Rocky Calmus over ???? DePriest every day…JMO
Anyone….what experience does Meacham have as a play caller. I’ve been told that Cumbie is the play caller at TCU.
Cumbie is the OC I want from TCU before Meacham.
anyone else notice the total lack of talk about the renovations… I guess the season really put a damper on all of the excitement about that. Isn’t there already supposed to be work beginning?
I read earlier that a lot of the donors for OU have stocks and stuff in oil, and with declining prices it’s slowed down the donating. I’m sure if we were about to play for the NC that this wouldn’t be an issue but it looks to be the excuse given.
Think that is starting December 2015
For what it’s worth, this article touches on some of your question…
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/johnehoover/john-e-hoover-booster-facilities-recruiting-are-at-the-heart/article_5ff94892-7f80-58d1-8e17-ce43a53599dc.html
I was toldby a family member who keeps up with the these things that they’ve raised 40% of the total needed, and plan to sell bonds to make up the rest of the funds. I have not verified this myself yet.
Any chance DeBerry flips??
If Monty leaves then yes
They’re all 18-19 year olds. Until they sign, I say there’s always a chance.
Just seen Mora is interviewing with the Jets. That’d be good news for OU recruiting
Go to the league Mora, don’t worry about your recruits we’ll treat them well.
He’s a force on the recruiting trail.
Got it. Currently, his average recruit is above OU’s average per Rivals.
Could be nice to swing KLS but I bet he’d swing to Michigan
Seriously that would all but lock wariboko to ou and maybe open the door for KLS who I thought was a big ou lean early on.
Exactly who I was thinking of. Do work, Monty!
dead period unfortunately unless the kid initiates the contact? correct me if I’m wrong.
I think KLS would go to Michigan instead. He once said it was his dream school.
No, it’s his dad’s favorite school, but it would definitely help push him there. However, it could come down to OU and Michigan.
I’ll help him pack!
I think he’d be perfect for the Jets. Far far away from Cali.
J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets
I thought it was J-E-T-S lose lose lose 🙂
mora/snyder……heard remarks but didn’t see it at the time…………at the least, not professional
https://vine.co/v/OdAYFE7HWTL
…….
Don’t like Mora at ALL. But…..Snyder initiated his mood by calling timeout when BOTH teams on the field had already started shaking hands and most of the UCLA bench began walking out on the field. Yeah, I know, I know yada yada yada, there might be a fluke fumble. But having the guys jump over the line and landing on a QB who is taking a knee is CRAP. Hells bells, even the Lions yesterday didn’t use a last timeout when it virtually ended their season. LOW CLASS SNYDER. You’re a dirt bag, and for years we’ve heard he was a turd to work for. The best comments you hear out of his former coaches, well……..is no comments.
Brainiacs, I think we need an hourly update on Deberry. Anyone know what he had for lunch?
Couldn’t tell what he was eating but he needs to tie his left shoe.
Had a toothpick afterwards so probably something chewy.
TFB, please define what the dead period does and does not allow a coaching staff to do- I’m a little confused that a&m might be doing an in-home with DeBerry during what I thought was a dead period.
Thx!
They are doing the in home visit the 1st weekend after the dead period ends.
ok, thought I read someone say that the in-home was this week
https://thefootballbrainiacs.com/ncaas-cfb-recruiting-calendar-ou-oklahoma-sooners-football-dorial-green-beckham
Thanks Jordan-
The following are permitted during a dead period:
* Unofficial visits but you cannot meet with the coaches
* Letters/emails
* Phone calls/texts
Hope those UCLA recruits phones are a ringin’
Happy to see Bob and Coach M going after these lb’s.
Awesome news that Humphrey is solid on his commit!
I know aTm is full of a bunch of crazies but how much traction does Deberry flipping to aTm have?
none yet
It only has traction because people keep asking about it. A&m wasn’t in his top 3. Neither was lsu so I’m not sure why all of a sudden a&m gets Chavis and now they can flip him? I don’t think so. Nothing has changed as far as his recruiter and kish was not the reason deberry committed so if kish is let go which is expected, then whoever replaces him will likely be an upgrade in every aspect. So again I’m not sure why people are worried. Mbanasor is doing the same thing by allowing in home visits.
DeBerry took his visits, consulted with his parents made a well thought out decision and it’s over. Mbanasor is a little more concerning. OU was not his first commitment…
I believe Mbanasor is solid. OU is where he wants to be.
you sound confident???
TFB said he said he was still coming to OU.
I remember that now but I know that now, thanks….
I have no reason not to be.
But, yes. Yes I am.
So the leader of OUs money board on rivals insinuating that MS is setting up an in home with a LB on the west coast. I’m true that says ALOT about what isn’t gonna happen
I’m true? Pretty sure there are only a few that KNOW what is going to happen and most is still in the works.
Sorry if true, I know but if a recruit says MS is coming to see him after the dead period then he’s aparently going to still be DC
Making another run at KLS? Got Overton, Sunderland, Deberry and Gallimore from that photo at the UTenn game.
Not kls.
Here, let’s speculate.
@OU_CoachJerryM’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/OU_CoachJerryM/status/552238541619871747?s=09
Which one is that?
Josh Smith????
I hope its the area code of our incoming DC!
Well, I like to see high school coaches move up….. but that’s all I see in that area code and we need something more established than a hs coach as a coordinator.
Now that I have taken my smart pills (term used loosely). Stephens is from Kimball (Dallas ISD). That would be more 214 or 972 area codes (not saying 469 cell couldn’t sneak in there). 469 and 972 were more north Dallas, Plano, Richardson, Allen….. I think, please correct me if I am wrong.
Not working with a good rep right now….
actually looked it up on wikepedia. Long story short, 469 is eastern Dallas Metroplex. Kimball HS is southwest of Dallas. Not saying it isn’t Stephens but chances are it is not also
He could of got a cell phone from that area code and then moved to Kimball. Just sayin’
Dallas Metro. Could be anybody.
Stephens
Stephens who?
CB offered today from Dallas area
Me
Stephens, he already responded on twitter to JM saying thanks for the convo and looks forward to more talks.
Wheeler maybe, remember Patience
He had more tackles in his senior video than ALL of OU’s secondary corp combined this year. (I almost didn’t use the word corp because I thought our president might be reading the TFB’s and he wouldn’t know how to pronounce it)
Please, Please, Please be Kyler Murray from Allen!!! :-0
I don’t think JM would be recruiting murray unless he’s gonna play DT at 175 pds
JM is recruiting a lot of people right now…
Yeah Monty recruiting any offensive player, other than OL is unfathomable.
Antione Stephens.
maybe not
17mA.Stephens @Afeeva_14 13m
13 minutes ago
@OU_CoachJerryM nice talking to you coach look forward to bonding more.17 minutes ago
Stephen; Dad update please.
Sorry didnt see this. He’s going in the right direction still, nothing significant happened today but that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
I should have more news tomorrow or Wednesday when they try to ween him off of the ventilator. I’ll be sure to give you guys an update by then.
Could be Anthony Wheeler! Kyle Murrey! Could be a 2016 kid as well!
Does anyone have connections with the NSA so we can sort out the area code deciphering?
I’ll call my nephew Eric S…..
I think the Ruskies monitor all communications.
Be careful!!!
And Chinese
Just google area code *** and it will tell you where it is.
Googling “area code***” got me nowhere…..;) 😉
Dammit, I can’t be everyone’s dad around here. 🙂
469 is in the Dallas area. I use whitepages.com to find area code location.
LOL
I did and would prefer NSA surveillance through signing day please…
It’s the Stephens kid, mystery solved
Thanks Special Agent Esco
With the info here they have to have connections at the NSA
You need a google decoder ring, it’s all the rage.
No need, I found one in your box of Cap’n Crunch blondie.
Ha..ha jokes on you, I’m not a real blonde!
Shucks, they never are! 🙂
Lol!
Does anyone think all the moves have been made as far as who is leaving and Norvell was the only one that leaked out?
IMO Jay was told by Bob he was going to be demoted and if it wasn’t excepted he would have to let him go. Norvell chose the latter. Also Stoops is going to make other changes on his time frame, not ours.
How accurate is all this ‘Boren will not cooperate’ stuff?
How accurate do you think it is? Have you heard it from anyone credible? If not, then I think you have your answer. (And I’m not saying you haven’t. Maybe you have. I haven’t seen it anywhere credible, but that doesn’t mean it’s not out there, fwiw.)
But several dozen people repeated it on the interwebs so it must be true.
Yeah, they can’t put anything on the internet that isn’t true!
you’re a french model aren’t you?
He must be. He put it on the web for all to see. I hope you didn’t post a pic either.
Update added above.
Will you be covering said press conference?
Do you think they will announce any hires yet or no?
Does Stoops always have an end of the year press conference ?
Was wondering the same thing
Few on Twitter saying a full on presser is very unusual for him after the season.
Yes, after Bama it was the next day.. After A&M it was 10 days later.. This one could always be different though.. I just wonder if FSOklahoma will carry it..?
If CB doesnt workout for stephens he can always move to a safety spot. Very physical kid
Unless he is canning people I dont care what he has to say.
This should be good
http://www.diabetesmine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/popcorn.jpg
I will be serving wine and cheese.
Two parties already listed thus far.
Give the general tenor of some of the message boards shouldn’t that be WHINE and cheese?
indeed, indeed.
Ha! Ha! I see what you did there…..!
A nice chianti with some fava beans sounds nice.
I’m more a pale ale man my self. Though a good selection of cheeses sounds nice.
Crap. If he was canning people he wouldn’t announce it at an “end of season” press conference. Maybe “Big Bucks” Bob is giving back the $750,000 bonus? NOT. Guess we’re stuck with Josh and brother Mike.
As JM said; “Patience kemosabe”.
Ok, I added the last part.
He is gonna have to have answers for the questions he knows are coming.
Yea, give that 750 grand towards the expansion of the stadium or weight room. That would be a good gift to give.
You just can’t make this stuff up…Manny Diaz the new(old) DC at Miss St.
https://hailstatebeat.wordpress.com/2015/01/05/dan-mullen-hires-manny-diaz-as-msus-new-defensive-coordinator/
That’s Manny Iaz. As he proved at Texas there is no D.
Nice, as in I az no D.
Bobby loves playing with peoples’ emotions!
My friend just told me Murdock was on sports animal saying it’s being speculated that Bob is going to retire. I doubt this is true but man if it is it will be a sad day IMO.
Hope they are wrong, that wouldn’t be good right now.
Not a chance.
Tweet I saw from Murdock said the presser was to address staff changes.
No way Stoops has been personally recruiting players only to retire before nsd
That’s what I’m thinking.
Unless things have changed over the last couple of days.
totally
I listened to it and he didn’t say that……….esch, somewhat jokingly, asked about the speculations in that regard and it was the remotest possiblity……….he’s apparently holding presser to address rumors/ clear things up and meeting with staff wedns
So it was said by al as a joke?
I didn’t take it seriously just trying to find out where the speculation was cause I havent found it.
I don’t have it taped…….it was mentioned in the sense of the remotest of possibilities……however, we’ll see tomorrow……speculation is all over, look above at a couple of posts
Makes you wonder he might be announcing his own retirement.
I think he’s got a couple more years in him, but you never know.
Maybe he is getting some perspective, especially after how his dad went down.
No doubt that’s on his mind but I really think he wants to coach until his kids are out of school and who wouldn’t want to retire right after another natty.
I can see that…just a gut check I have. Hope it is wrong.
I heard reliable rumors that he’s having this press conference to call Hoover out and challenge him to 5 rounds in the octagon. Take it for what its worth.
That would be great.
I got money on the “pinky”.
That thing makes me cringe. I got several rolls of high test fish line we could use, take that offending digit right off.
Bob would knock him out quicker than Tyson did Spinks.
Thankfully this is the only board site I visit for information. So many rumors flying around right now it’s making my head swim.
Sounds like a hen house when you walk in to gather the eggs, lots of cackling.
you took the words out of my mouth!
I’ve been waiting all day for the next shoe to drop, hasn’t happened yet and it’s driving me nuts. Maybe tomorrow we will finally get some clarity. You know me Tex, impatient.
Wait…I thought you were no longer impatient.
/so confused
Think I’m confused now
It’s all the “cackling.”
Must be. I went and gathered eggs this evening and I know what you mean by the cackling. It’s worth it though to have farm fresh eggs.
The eggs are the payoff, the cackling is just noise.
There’s an analogy in there.
Yes there is but you have to be wise to see it. Knew you were good for something.
Well, there you go. You saw it, that’s the main thing.
My mother-in-law has chickens so I get the eggs without the noise. :-0
Sounds like a good plan. I got a dozen hens and hate it when they molt and quit laying for awhile. Store boughten eggs just ain’t as good.
No they are not.
I would say something here, but I would be projecting my mother-in-law issues onto you.
I see where you’re going with the noise. lol.
There’s always an analogy buster in the mix. 🙂
Amen brother.
Can’t beat a good fresh egg. I have 3 every morning in one fashion or another.
One day, one day we will have this situation.
Save yourself the misery. Only follow TFB…..
Omg….is bob retiring?
I seriously doubt that he is.
BUT, it seems as though many on this board have been calling for him to do that after the Clemson debacle.
Would young, aggressive blood be so bad?
John Blake was bleedin young and bloody aggressive.
OU vs. tejas coming up on the spin channel.
Hope we kick em around a little, well more like alot
Okay everyone, Big Game Bob’s 401k has dropped lately because of the markets just like ours..
That post sucked, I apologize..
BGB may introduce David Boren as the new OC with JH being demoted to Boren’s ‘gofer’. Boren already micromanages the program so being on the sideline on Saturdays is the next logical step……
Just a quick comment, nobody holds a news conference to announce firings. News conferences are to throw the positive spin.
I would expect a hiring tomorrow. As a matter of fact, I might expect more than one hiring if I was going to call for a new conference.
Everything else is just press release material.
press releases in the am announcing departures. Press conference to announce the hires….
I thought news conferences were for news and announcing the time and place is so as many of the keyboard warriors will be in attendance as possible.
cant announce a hiring without announcing a firing.
All he would need is one, since we only know of one opening. Of course, more openings could be announced, particularly if someone is retiring or being promoted to another role (BJW?).
Only time will tell, I guess. Should be interesting.
I wonder what the percentage are that Blevins will be there.
I’m going with 100%
If they have a snack table set up, yes, 100%
That was funny.
Almost as funny as Texas being 3/23 right now
In Austin, smh.
Will Kings of Leon or Toby kick off the presser.
JR
JR will be announcing
oh ok, so you’re saying kings of leon pump up the jams and then throw it to JR
Oh yea, how did you get the agenda?
i got a guy
Hope they can get the confetti cannons ready
who lives in a van down by the river
oh cool. you know him too
Got real nice upholstered Captains chair, with a moving griddle under the steering wheel.
mmm yes, pine tree air freshener, can’t see the curtains for the smoked out winders
Yes I do, hefty guy, funny, but is darn serious bout some sooner pigskin
Don’t give up sources, C’mon man.
its cool. they already knew each other. and i didn’t say which river
Yea, I partied with that guy
Boz is announcing the firings.
like physically or vocabularily
Well, they told him vocally but you never know about him. He may hear voices calling for a blitz
We need some fire…on that staff..the younger guys are good…
I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if Bob simply announced a new hire or two. You don’t have to announce the terminating of coaches, do you?
I think they realize the cyber world is blowing up and just want to calm the seas.
Yep, said that on the other post. They know the inmates are not happy and will lay out a plan to bring us back where we need to be.
On BS right will be Spavital and on his left will be Kyler Murray.
JR interrupts the press conference with some Rock Music and say “Mah Gawd it’s Kyler Murray!” Murray then proceeds to walk in, pick up a mic and say he’s committed to OU then walks out.
All he gets is a cameo?
LOL sounds like a recruiting violation…the higher ups won’t allow that..but yeah I could dig it
Just heard thru the pretty good source rumor mill that Boren told Stoops that his bro had to go. Bob evidently said no, and now it looks like he is resigning at 11am tomorrow.
Orange Nation?
Or Facebook
Sorry Ray, I own NOTHING ORANGE!!! I MEAN NOTHING!!!!
It’s cool, just giving you a hard time.
I know, We all love our Crimson men. I hate turmoil in Soonerville,as much as anyone, and I hope like crazy that it’s to announce firings and hirings, but as as old man who’s been around since the 50’s, this isn’t the way things are normally handled at OU. (and I really don’t have anything orange and never allowed my kids or grandkids either!!!!)
We are all on edge about the situation, especially those of us who have seen several up and down periods. Nothing has ever kept us down for long, and I see you are retired, thank you for your time in the military.
Was proud to serve, but my 3 “boys” are who I am thankful for. The 3 of them have combined for 7 tours in the middle east. Thanks for your thoughts Sooner Ray.
I was outside in my summer kitchen and a buddy brought over some sausage wrapped in a orange dish towel. I took the sausage and then threw the orange dish towel into the fire. That’s what you call burnt orange.
That’s why Bob is recruiting and sending out offers ….yeah…ok
Might want to check that “pretty good source” again.
Clown post.
Yep
Sorry Okie, but Bob stepping down doesn’t make compute…. If true, please announce when you are online and providing insider info!!!
I hope I’m DEAD wrong, but the person who told me this has told me things like this about the program before and unfortunately he’s been right. An unannounced presser doesn’t sound like good news tho.
this presser has been announced lol
yeah, 2 1/2 hours ago. That’s not the way OU normally handles things like that.
maybe we should start talking about potential HC replacements…
Well it’s still not “breaking news announcement” and I fully expected a presser since the rumors of three coaches leaving
Never before in Stoops tenure has he done that with ANYONE
doesn’t mean he is stepping down. I mean really….never in is tenure has he had a year where he underperformed so badly. BGB strikes me as a person who wants to leave a positive legacy. I have no inside info….
Well when you replace three coaches (a rumor) three weeks before signing day you better have a presser to hold your recruits and finish strong…Like said, Stoops isn’t gonna fire Norvelle then retire
To be honest about this, it really upsets my stomach to even be talking about this.
unfortunately this makes sense. Idk about the mike thing, but why else would we call a presser?
Coaching changes and he’s been having post season pressers lately.
So lets get this right, BS sends out an offer to DB Patterson over the weekend, Gets a commit from a big time DT, Fires a coach that was also a college teammate, Sends out another offer to DB Stephens then the next morning retires??
Good detective work, like how you operate
thank you…thank you very much ;o)
Look Dragnet, quit replying to me and get back to work.
LMAO!!
Magnum PI, is that you?
Just the facts
Old school!
is the best school
But remember all schools become old…eventually…
That’s why they’re all good.
No, Boren is stepping down because BS told him too.
Oklahoma holds the lead thanks to poor shooting and turnovers by Texas.
awesome espn. thats one way to put it. another would be texas getting pummeled by a damn good team
i also loved fran calling wrinkles out for his sec homerism and asked him what happened to the sec west in bowls
What’d you expect lol
i expect them to respect the fact that OU has a damned good athletics dept and quit acting like a bunch of little bitches who didn’t get picked for kickball
I quit expecting that from espn for years..haven’t watch game day in two years….I rather enjoy the extra sleep I get during football season…but I hear ya bud
haha. yeah. that game day ain’t even for the birds
How bout the mens bball team beating the heck out of texas right now.
Loving it !
Feels good to beat Texsa in anything
It ain’t over…but yes.
yeah. what was it, 2 yrs ago we gave em one when we were up 20+?
Nobody do the downward horns. I bet ESPN shows that clip (if they haven’t already).
Oh, they’ve already discussed it.
Will the presser be televised?
Hey sooner fan’s i love living in miami down here where it has been in the 80’s just went to the beach got a suntan so why you sooner freeze your butt’s i will keep enjoying the 80’s down here.now let’s hope all these coaching changes leed.s to us winning the national championship in 2015 sooner nation adios from warm sunny miami.
Suntans suck. I love the colder weather.
That is why miami is know for having the most beautiful women in the world because it’s warm year around.
awe James.
One man’s beauty is another man’s bitch
zing. Watch your head, theres a boomerang in that statement.
Come over to Sarasota, where the water is WARM, buddy.
Weather was 84 degrees no way Sarasota was that warm
Was 84 Saturday, as a matter of fact. Water is warmer than in Miami, too.
83 today, but a cold front is moving in. Gonna drop to 65 or so.
Warm weather brings more people to the beach. Lots of warm pee in that water.
Salt water cleans it up. Thankfully, salt water.
That’s right my friend.
You may be on to something. Can’t wear depends under the bathing suit.
I went to elementary school in Florida. Lots of memories of going to the beach and crystal springs. Someone needs to remind me why I moved back to Alaska.
Mountains, cold clean crisp air. Maybe a career?
Oh yeah. It’s hard to remember those in January. 9 degrees today and very little sunlight.
I hear you, had some sub zeros here in the Rockies already this winter.
Rockies? And you have the elk, now I’m really jealous.
Over populated Rockies have big bucks running through neighborhoods around these parts. It sets me in awe because I’m from Oklahoma, whereas people here pull out their cameras (including me, lol)
Yeah we don’t allow that happen around here…
cause flryan just don’t sound good. sounds like a sneeze
post it note. print it, sell it, card it. Great.
Moose hunting, bear hunting, ducks, etc…I’m sure its an outdoorsmans paradise. I’m jealous now.
I’m more of a biking, hiking guy than hunting and fishing, but yeah, summers are great for all of that.
Come on back to order Florida there is a lot to do can go to Orlando like me and my wife are in two week’s to Universal Studios.
Not in miami temperatures to stay in the low 70’s by end of week.
Just watch out for them burmese pythons.
Weather talk. Warmth is nice in season. Right now, love cold and snow. Its about Championships, the staff that can do it will make it very apparent when their team strikes the field.
Let’s hope so because we are all sooner’s and we all want to.win the national championship in 2015.
A suntan isn’t going to help during a hurricane. 🙂
good laugh.
Been through hurrican Andrew that all you need to know one of the longest strongest storms to ever hit the United States.
Tru dat! A suntan is the devil!
Know it is not Jesus created all thing’s.
Spray tans don’t count?
Like the 80s but you can keep the 100% humidity….besides my tan is genetic and is the same in all climates..lol..
The question is, will BS say “in the end” or “at the end of the day” more tomorrow.
at the end of the day, for sure, at the end of the day…and he’ll say it in a strong way.
In a good way.
We are going to fill these positions “in a good way”.
in a good way at the end of the day. like that. Ray, I’m trying to lighten the mood but my zingers aren’t as funny as yours. You have been killing me for a long time with your sense of humor. keep it up.
Ya ain’t livin’ if ya ain’t laghin’
Of course he’ll say that … after all, this isn’t his first rodeo!
Hope he has good execution tomorrow
There you go!
Don’t forget “certainly”
He can say any catch phrase he wants as long as he doesn’t talk about the past years and championships they have won! We waqnt to here about RIGHT NOW and the FUTURE!!!!!!!
Over under on “you know”. I say 30
How about the o.u men’s basketball they are as hot as the weather here in miami love the beatdown the sooner’s puting on the horns.
Loving it!!
It’s like a texsa BBQ!
Hell mybe the men team is hotter than miami who knows.
Stephens kinda reminds me of Lendy Holmes….he even ran down a guy
I’ve got 4 words before I go to bed… Texas sucks! Boomer sooner!
Well said!
I really like this kid!!
He got a passing grade in sign language.
If he would tuck those thumbs in he would get an A.
Great win sooner nation for the men’s team against the horns goodnight sooner nation from sunny miami.
Men’s BB 3-0 vs the horns this year and last year, now if we can get over the KU hump.. Keep hoopin fellas!
I was gonna get the latest before hitting the sack and just a bunch of Florida weather smack. lol Everyone have a good sleep and we’ll see Bob tomorrow with news at 11.
Is it true that Josh heupel is out?
It appears to be true.
Newsok is citing SI.com as saying he has been fired.
Well it appears SI is the only source so far so it probably isn’t true.
I may just lose it if Bob even mentions the Bama win.
I might have missed something but what happened to Jalin Barnett??
I might have missed something but what happened to Jalin Barnett??