Open Post | Monday, Dec. 14th (UPDATED 4:18 pm)

Parnell Motley: This past weekend Oklahoma had a few visitors in Norman, one being defensive back Parnell Motley (Washington D.C.). The Sooners have been recruiting Motley for quite some time. I talked to a source about Motley’s visit and it sounds like it went really well. It seems the Sooners gave him a lot to think about. Source said the visit went, “really well…he’s going to take some time and talk it over with his family”. Source also said that Motley just needs to work things through with Maryland, as he is committed to them currently, but it won’t come as a surprise if he ends up a Sooner. In fact one source said that the thought of committing to Oklahoma crossed his mind on the trip. – (Brandon)

Elysee Mbem-Bosse: As players get closer and closer to signing day it gets more and more difficult to get them to open up about their recruitment. So we like to speak to people close to a recruit to get a sense of where things stand. Star LB, Elysee Mbem-Bosse (Ellenwood, GA) will announce his commitment this coming weekend. Most expected Mbem-Bosse to end up at Auburn but in talking to a source I’m told that the departure of Muschamp and the fact that there still isn’t a defensive staff in place may have put the nail in their coffin.

Mbem-Bosse is a December graduate so he really doesn’t have time to wait for Georgia or Auburn to fill their staffs. I’m told this may end up playing out in Oklahoma’s favor. Mbem-Bosse officially visited Oklahoma last month and it sounds like that visit surprised even him with how much it impressed him. Sooners don’t usually pull defensive players out of Georgia, and there are no guarantees, but people familiar with Mbem-Bosse’s recruiting are telling us that it is a very real possibility. – (Super K)

Chris Daniels: Another top target that will be making his announcement this weekend is defensive tackle, Chris Daniels (Euless, TX). I caught up with Daniels’ father and he said that Chris will be deciding between Oklahoma, Michigan, Ohio State and Alabama. He wouldn’t tip his hand but we feel confident that this one will come down to OU vs. Michigan. Both schools have recruited him the hardest. The advantage Oklahoma has is proximity and the fact that the Sooners are the only one of those programs whose defensive staff is completely intact. – (Brandon)

Mique Juarez: I know everyone wants an update on the star LB that visited Oklahoma this past weekend. Unfortunately, we haven’t been able to reach Juarez yet nor have we been able to really get a sense how the visit went from folks around Juarez. I can say that, going into the trip I was told that he is most likely stay in-state (California). We’ll work to bring you more. Either way, I think it’s pretty safe to say with who the Sooners have committed and where things stand with Caleb Kelley…the Sooners gon’ be aight! – (Super K)

UPDATE (4:18 pm): 2016 wide receiver target, Velus Jones, has just informed us that he will announce his decision tomorrow at 2:00 pm. Velus will decide between schools like Florida, Tennessee, USC, Michigan and others. He holds an extensive offer list and has been heavily recruited by a number of programs. His most recent visit was to Tennessee. He visited Oklahoma in late November and came away very impressed. Stay tuned for this one. You can follow Velus on twitter at https://twitter.com/VelusJr – (Alex)

429 Comments

  • J.r. Kamm says:

    Boomer!!! Thanks for the updates — you guys are awesome!

    I’d be willing to double my membership fee!!

  • Jeremy Phillips says:

    Mark Rodgers just said something interesting, he understands that OSU is looking to bring in Justice Hansen.. TFB hearing anything like that..?

    • Kelly Gurbcock says:

      wow. really?

    • DCinAZ says:

      ATM is looking at him as well I think.

    • SoonerMagic76 says:

      Also has ISU offer.

      With OSU losing their only QB in the 2016 class this weekend, have to think they’ll look to get someone else

      • j l says:

        They have a really highly rated QB that redshirted this year in kolar. They could probably get away with no QB this class.

        • SoonerMagic76 says:

          Yeah I’ve heard that kid could be pretty good. Although on the other side of that, oSu has had some rough QB play since Brandon Weeden (who was admittedly a pretty good college QB) left after the 2011 season.

          2012 – Wes Lunt came out and was supposed to be great. Then he, Clint Chelf, and J.W. Walsh traded starting the whole year due to injuries and poor play

          2013 – Wes Lunt transfers before the season. Chelf was starter for half a game, then Walsh for half the season, then Chelf, then traded due to poor play all year

          2014 – Walsh was starter, got hurt, Daxx Garman came in, wasn’t good, Mason Rudolph finished well

          2015 – Rudolph was the “starter” with Walsh running oSu’s version of OU’s belldozer package and also occasionally being the starter – easily the best QB play for the season since 2011

          Guess my point is, if I were oSu, I wouldn’t mind having an extra QB or two

          • j l says:

            I bet we would have recruited him had we swapped to the air raid at that point. Hes supposed to be a heck of a pocket passer.

        • BoomerDave says:

          They will only have 2 scholarship QB’s on campus. They MUST sign a QB or 2 this class.

          • Jeremy Phillips says:

            They have 2 preferred walkons coming in too.. One from berryhill & also the locust grove kid, i believe..

          • Boom says:

            Not all walkon’s are like Baker. I agree with BoomerDave.

          • Kyle Boone says:

            The LG kid hasnt committed. But they do have a PW player in Nyc Burns.

          • Jeremy Phillips says:

            That’s right, i was making an assumption because i don’t believe he has a d1 scholarship offer.. If that walkon offer ends up being his best offer, id think he’d take it..

    • Kyle Boone says:

      no way… lol

  • Lincoln Hawk says:

    Anybody else immediately say “Thank You Lord” when the OP went up? Thanks for all of the updates guys, really appreciated. Also, what in the heck is going on at OSU?

  • Jake says:

    Mr. Washington…

  • paganpink says:

    We’re in the running for some real studs now and regardless of how the playoff games go the stability in our coaching staff looks to make a real difference because of the “unknown” factor for other teams playing the coaching shuffle game. But when we do change them man oh man is our athletic department good at picking winners!

    • RBear says:

      Can’t wait to watch C Gundy and C Riley to “finish”.

      Edit- among others, of course!

      • paganpink says:

        I think we’re going to see as well prepared a team as we have seen in a long time. Not only is this team self motivated but both the offense and the defense have been hugely better at making adjustments this season, and have showed amazing improvement in every fundamental of the game. And Lincoln Riley and Coach Stoops will have a few things up their sleeves unless I miss my bet.

        • RBear says:

          Yeah- I’m pretty excited to see if Gundy is just as good at recruiting WR’s as he was/is RB’s.

          • paganpink says:

            Yep. Because he was nothing short of sensational at recruiting running backs! I watched the ESPN thing on Doug Flutie’s career yesterday, about how he was too small and overlooked his whole career and then he gets them to the Super Bowl and they pull him for a younger bigger guy and it’s a disaster. He later goes back to play again and once again wins and they quoted another player as saying that what made him great was that sometimes your plan- and everything ELSE- breaks down and you just have to “play football!” And that’s what he could do. I feel that Mayfield is absolutely the same way.

      • paganpink says:

        I think we’re going to see as well prepared a team as we have seen in a long time. Not only is this team self motivated but both the offense and the defense have been hugely better at making adjustments this season, and have showed amazing improvement in every fundamental of the game. And Lincoln Riley and Coach Stoops will have a few things up their sleeves unless I miss my bet.

  • Swanny says:

    If we landed Daniels and Mbem-Bosse that would be one heck of a weekend. The stars are aligning ladies and gentlemen.

    • Soonerfan24 says:

      Seems like it could go anyway with Mbem-Bosse, but you have to feel good about Chris Daniels tweeting “Just wait on it” the other day

    • Soonerfan24 says:

      Seems like it could go anyway with Mbem-Bosse, but you have to feel good about Chris Daniels tweeting “Just wait on it” the other day

  • Soonerfan24 says:

    Between Velus Jones and Chris Daniels, I think there will be plenty of good news for us Sooner fans leading up to the Orange Bowl

  • Tim A says:

    Caleb Kelly recent visit to Notre Dame?

  • Scott says:

    Hopefully we can get Juarez

  • Sooner Ray says:

    Good updates, sounds like a productive weekend coming up.

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    Is this going to be Bob’s best defensive recruiting class? Shaping up to be at least in the conversation.

  • Bob Edwards says:

    For those of you who have expressed concern over my wife’s trip to Mayo Clinic, I thought I would give you an update.

    The upshot is that she has a rare condition and an uncommon condition that are interacting to confuse the garden variety doctors. Think of throwing two puzzles into the same box and giving it to someone to work without telling them there are two puzzles.

    The good news is that both conditions are well enough understood that they are treatable and the prognosis is generally positive.

    Thanks to all of you who expressed your concern and offered prayers on her regard.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      Awesome news Bob. Will keep her in my prayers

    • metzker says:

      God bless

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    • Sooner Ray says:

      Good to hear.

    • Cush Creekmont says:

      Very GOOD! I wish her a speedy recovery and to you her healthy return.

    • Ed Cotter says:

      Excellent News Bob. Please pass on my best wishes to a speedy and full recovery.

    • Tex'ish says:

      Thanks for update – continued prayers Bob – Peace & blessings to you both.

    • Boom says:

      Pls continue to keep us in loop. thanks

    • Brien Brown says:

      Thanks for the update and thoughts and prayers your way!

    • SoonerOracle737 says:

      Great news Bob.

    • Exiled In Ohio says:

      Praise the Lord!

    • SamSooner says:

      Bob, we will keep praying for you and your wife. Please tell her we are all rooting for her.

    • paganpink says:

      That’s great news Bob! Makes all the trouble and uncertainty a little more worth it when they tell you they know what it is. Better then the old “good news” bad news” story from the doctors. The good news?; “You’re going to have a disease named after you!” LOL. Hang in there, Bob, and tell her she has my prayers.

    • EasTex says:

      OUtstanding!
      My wish is her recovery is complete and rapid.
      I’m also glad she has you by her side.

    • Jed says:

      Good news indeed.

    • soonerinks says:

      Bob very good news indeed. This is the important stuff – family and health. Best to you and your wife.

    • Stephen Dale says:

      that is great news……..quite an early Christmas present for you and your family.

    • hushnpa says:

      Blessings !

    • Patvan says:

      Amen and God speed to her

    • SoonerGoneEast says:

      Amen! Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful news!

    • Scott says:

      Great News , praying for a speedy recovery.

    • CPSooner says:

      Praise God!!!

    • Bevo Burgers! says:

      Continued prayer, but great news!

    • JB says:

      That is awesome news, much better than the alternative. Whatever her condition(s), she is in my prayers tonight, as are you, sir.

    • Okie403 says:

      Bob….Great to hear they figured out the issue(s). May God guide the Drs and bless the Mrs.

    • Nate Broadus says:

      Awesome news. I’ll keep you both in my prayers.

  • Indy_sooner says:

    Helping Motley breakup with Maryland is easy. “something something… new allergic reaction to the hideous Maryland outfits….something something Edsall firing…something something..Wolves are cool (YOLO) “

  • Brian says:

    Isn’t Motley really good friends with Abdul Adams?

  • Eddie and Amber says:

    EMB’s offer list is incredible …

  • Boom says:

    Hey BoomerSooner, you’ve done your time so it’s ok to come out and play. C’mon bro, join the party.

    • EasTex says:

      For true!
      With the Sooners on a roll there aren’t many knuckleheads clogging up the bandwidth.

      • Boom says:

        Miss the guy. I know he’s reading this and I know he didn’t forget how to throw a ball so get back in the game. I think his confidence was a little shaken but he just needs to get back on the mound.

  • Lane Gilstrap says:

    If we can pick up Kelly and EMB I would be extatic about our LB class.

    • Brien Brown says:

      Should be already this LB class is already better than last years IMO. Deberry was the man in last years class, which is what BY is already in this class.

      • Eddie and Amber says:

        Also have Draper in 2017 class … That position is going to be set for years if even half pan out.

        • Brien Brown says:

          Draper is a stud, but the offer list at LB next year along with Draper is pretty scary if OU somehow pulls off, Kelly BY, and Juraez or EMB that is impressive, but the kids being mentioned fir next year could be even more impressive!

    • Mr. Jones says:

      I like EMB but I think I prefer Horton if I were choosing. Who do you like better?

      • Lane Gilstrap says:

        You are right. Horton looks better and faster.

        • Brien Brown says:

          why take the 2 year guy over the 4 year guy that will get better?

          • Brien Brown says:

            Horton is a JUCO guy so he better look better

          • Lane Gilstrap says:

            Look for yourself.

          • Brien Brown says:

            I have still give the 4-5 year guy that could be just as good in that time frame as he will only get better!

          • Boom says:

            I like Baccus but he’s in the same position with only 2 years to play.

          • Brien Brown says:

            Agreed!

          • Indy_sooner says:

            It’s never that clear cut. Jucos offer a skill that takes years to develop. Analogy is Will Johnson and his skillset shedding blocks and navigating through traffic. Or Devante Bond and his blitzing. With the right person, you are basically get 5 star skill immediately albeit for a shorter amount of time.

          • Brien Brown says:

            I agree but not all JUCO guys are Bond or Johnson lol. I get what you are saying though give me the 3 for 4 guys as far as JUCO players of possible. I just think Bosse could be a great player with training and some time under Stoops.

          • Indy_sooner says:

            I didn’t say every one is Bond or Johnson. You said you’d rather have 4 year guy and I offered two Jucos (Three if you add Westbrook) that are starting right now for the current team as a counter to the 4 year kid thing. It is a “K-State” strategy that has worked wonders for us in recent years. In fact, extending that a little, you have Jalen Saunders, Justin Brown (transfers with 1-2 years of play) Damien Williams, Lane Johnson. My point is that we’ve been able to get 4/5 star level of play available IMMEDIATELY from Jucos or transfer ranks, some of whom have even displaced tenured 4 year guys. I am not arguing if they are better than college kids outright, just that the coaches can be trusted with their picks based on history. I completely understand your POV, I would love a roseter full of Steven Parkers.

      • Cush Creekmont says:

        We have some pretty salty LB Freshman that can be used along with current JRs. Unless a Juco is Striker 2.0, he might sit and then be done rather than sit and learn for three years down the line.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Thanks Brandon and Super K, it’s about freakin time you lazy bums! 🙂

  • Matt says:

    good stuff as always! We need some Orange Bowl preview articles though! How are you guys feeling about the matchup?

  • Clint Lenard says:

    OU could use Jones.

  • Jordan Esco says:

    update added

  • Brien Brown says:

    I don’t like that Velus said 4 other schools in name and others but no mention of Oklahoma on that list makes me think we could be a long shot for him also unless someone knows something we don’t

    • Exiled In Ohio says:

      He had OV’s scheduled to MSU and Notre Dame in January. So, if he’s decided not to do them right after visiting Tenn, that doesn’t sound promising.

    • StL Sooner says:

      I’m not sure Velus listed the other schools and not OU. I read the update as Alex listed those schools as other offers in addition to OU. I’m hoping he visited Tenn and thought that compared to OU, it was awful and decided why visit the rest when you have already seen the best.

  • j l says:

    With cleveland and massey going other directions, is there a backup plan if jones dosent go our way?

    • Brien Brown says:

      Cleveland is still an option did you read the weekend OP they said although he announced Houston that things where far from over with him

      • j l says:

        I read that too, but flipping a hometown kid away from another hot program is not going to be easy.

        I hope thats not our only plan b. Was hoping TFB might have another name that could be a potential target.

        • Brien Brown says:

          At this point you can look at the recruiting sites and see there isn’t many names left. There is a few names left in the state at WR but IDK how good those kids are, but OU has done well with kids from state schools at the position. Shep and Broyles. Jones was the last real big target on our board I think. mean there is big names out there but none of them look to be on our radar or us on theirs.

          • j l says:

            Kinda what i was afraid of. Dont know how we are missing out on so many receivers with the offense we put out this year.

      • SoonerfanTU says:

        That is just an opinion. I think Cleveland stays in Houston. Looked to me like he was waiting to see what happened with Hermann. Hermann stayed, Cleveland verballed, and I think it stays that way. Probably take something like Ward leaving early, or the OC leaving to reopen things.

        Hope I’m wrong, but at this point, I think both he and Oliver end up at UH.

        • Brien Brown says:

          I think you are right also, but always hope OU has flipped a many of kids in the time Stoops has been there!

      • soonerthunder says:

        Hey Brien, what about Derrick Willis? He looks like a great WR to me. Is OU still in on him?

        • Brien Brown says:

          Derrick Wiilies is committed to Texas Tech but as far as JUCO kids he would be a good addition. But again nothing I’ve seen or heard on him as in regards to our recruiting him.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      I’d say sit pat and hope the young guys grow up.

      We’ll still have Westbrook, Quick, Andrews, Baxter, Parker, Mead, Miller, Todd, Humphrey, Green, and Hardy. Surely we can find 3-5 guys off that list.

      Westbrook, Quick, Baxter, Parker, and Andrews should be fine. Add in Mead and Hump as young guys. Not sure we could get anybody else at this point that would be any better. Circle back next year and hopefully land a stud.

      • j l says:

        We certainly still have some talent, just hate to see us only grab 2 jucos for the year with a couple seniors leaving. Means next year is VERY important for grabbing a couple high school kids, no margin for error.

  • Cush Creekmont says:

    Well, we have less than a day to know for sure. Play for OUr team Mr. Jones – you’ll love it!

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    I’m not sure how SEC teams land WR’s, especially teams like Tenn and UF, over Big 12 schools.

    The leading pass catcher for Tenn this past season had 36 receptions. The leader for UF had 47.

    Meanwhile, the OU leader had 79, and two others had 42. Receivers want to catch balls, don’t they?

    • Jpsooner23 says:

      I will get shot for saying this, but they do so because it prepares them for the pro game better. They run more pro style route trees, ask receivers to block, etc. List the elite NFL receivers and you’ll see Bama and LSU with a lot of NFL studs who didn’t put the numbers up in college. I don’t like it, but it is true, many receivers in the SEC have been asked this question and this is a typical and sensible response to me.

      • Fear The Magic says:

        bang

      • SoonerfanTU says:

        I don’t disagree with you when we’re talking about guys like Julio Jones and Amari Cooper.

        But the guys like Jones are more like Broyles and Shep at OU. Not sure going to Bama over going to OU is going to get him to the NFL any faster or more NFL ready. And we’re not ever talking Bama or LSU here. We’re talking Tenn and UF. Where WR’s go to be wasted.

        • Jpsooner23 says:

          I love broyles, but he’s a prime example of my point. As are jones, cooper, beckham, etc. who looked better in college and who is having a better pro career? I don’t like it, but it be what it be.

          • StL Sooner says:

            This may come out wrong, but Broyles lack of success in the NFL isn’t due to the fact he went to OU instead of the SEC. It is a size and injury thing. Julio Jones succeed not because of Bama, but because he is a physical beast.

            I don’t really care how well a player translates to the pros, I am rooting for OU to find the best college players they can find. If they make it to the league that is great and I am always happy for OU players in the NFL. If they don’t have great NFL careers or even make it the the NFL but we win the Natty, I’m ecstatic with that too!

          • Boom says:

            If Jones had as many injuries as Broyles, he would be gone too.

      • Soonerfan24 says:

        I think it has more to do with them recruiting better WR talent than it does the system that they are running. OU finished second with both Julio Jones and DGB to their home state schools. If both of those guys originally committed to OU, then I’m not sure we’re having this conversation

        • Fear The Magic says:

          I believe we finished 2nd for Treadwell also.

        • Jpsooner23 says:

          That’s the point, they didn’t pick OU.

          • Fear The Magic says:

            The point is that if they DID pick OU they’d still be in the NFL.
            The SEC just happens to draw many of the best athletes. Its not their system and schemes that are getting their WRs to the NFL its their innate talent that gets them there. They could go to Montana State and still they’d end up in the NFL.

          • Soonerfan24 says:

            Well said

          • Boom says:

            Jones was born and raised in Alabama and we still almost got him. I could go on as I stated, most grow up in that part of the country and want to play for their conf.

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            Yes, you’ve said u could go on multiple times now. You continue to go on. You don’t have to keep saying it. just keep going on.

            I’m stil, waiting for something from u without the words if and almost.

          • Clint Lenard says:

            They were close to home. Huge difference, and that’s why they didn’t pick OU.

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            True statement. Don’t disagree.

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            True statement. Don’t disagree.

          • Indy_sooner says:

            Dude, you are picking your arguments. The fact I am gathering above is that OU has never actually had issues getting WR talent. If anything, this year showed we are quite fine. Development on the other hand…

            The issue that you are angling for is more geographic than anything. The south statistically produces more talent than anywhere else (think Tx, Fl, Ms, LA,) and then you see that those are primarily SEC strongholds, it’s not hard to argue why “the SEC is winning their talent”. Just like we have done well in Texas. Also, until the last year or two, OU typically did not recruit the bigger, prototypical WRs that the SEC normally recruits. We have thrived with the Claytons’, Broyles’,Stills’,Saunders’…etc smaller type. Can you argue that the SEC’s all-world WRs have been better? I think not. But that doesn’t matter to recruits when the NFL is drafting based on measurables instead of on-field production.

            Lastly, I am not one for moral victories, but Julio Jones was very, very close to OU. There are articles saying he changed his mind on signing day or something. Point is, we offered a compelling case for him- enough to reconsider staying at home. The Cali trio

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            I’m not picking arguments, just being a sucker trying to respond to everyone’s complete bashing of the original statement. I don’t disagree with most, if not all, the points made on here. But back to the original question and answer. Why do they pick these schools? I gave a legitimate reason why. Some people on here have such a deep hatred for the sec. I certainly underestimated the outfall from what is not just a personal opinion, but a fact. Original comment was in no way comparing “us to them”. I got side tracked by all the haters who just can’t handle success from anyone else.

            My apologies.

          • Indy_sooner says:

            No apology needed. I couldn’t wade through all the responses so I lost the reference discussion. SEC speed doesn’t resonate well with folks here and for good reason- We’ve beaten the best of them at our worst….so there’s that. I don’t disagree on quality- facts are facts, but you can take data and skew it however you want and in the end it’s not worth arguing over. especially when it pertains to 18 yr old kids’ decisions

      • Boom says:

        What you are saying doesn’t make much sense. So a big time WR goes SEC and he’s in the pros and you don’t think he’s going to hype the SEC?? They are trained to love the SEC & their school. Most grow up in that area & want to play for the SEC and they just happen to be incredibly athletic.

        • Jpsooner23 says:

          What? I’m saying what they say is a big reason they go to these schools. Where did I say anything about pumping the conference?

          I knew I’d be crucified for saying that, but I lived in Baton Rouge and know people that played there. Do you see how many wideouts they land every year? Do you see their college stats? Do you see their pro careers? What stands out to you?

          Why is this exact same logic most on this board use applicable as to why every stud o lineman should come here, but not in this case?

          I despise the SEC culture, but the truth is the truth.

          • Boom says:

            I’ve covered Louisiana for over 15 years and know several who played. It’s the same, they pump the SEC and they even laugh about it. Again, when you grow up your whole life as a LSU fan and everyone around you is a LSU fan and you are 6’3, lightening fast and great hands, your going to play for LSU. Doesn’t mean they looked around and thought, you know, LSU will put me in the pros with my 18 catches a year.

          • Fear The Magic says:

            All Im saying is that if Velus Jones goes to the SEC Im blaming you! He’ll obviously read this and probably decide based on your comment! Way to go….

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            Lol!

          • StL Sooner says:

            Yes, literally LOL!

          • eastoksooner says:

            Give Jpsooner a break. It’s not “his” theory. He simply stated what some of the kids say and you guys are crucifying him and acting like he concocted this idea. He simply stated what the kids are saying. Back off a little guys.

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            Thank you!

        • DCinAZ says:

          I don’t think SEC WRs are running a different route tree than BIG XII WRs are either.

          • Boom says:

            That’s why I said it makes no sense.

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            Ok, well you guys go tell the recruits that and maybe we will stop finishing second for all the studs.

            For Gods sake people, I said this is what the kids say! You may not like it, but that’s what they say!

          • DCinAZ says:

            I think it’s because all the talent flocks to the SEC-SEC-SEC because of the massive hype machine behind that conference. Those kids would’ve gotten to the NFL no matter where they played.

          • Clint Lenard says:

            Your theory is a bit flawed. First off, those WR’s you’re thinking of (ie, Julio Jones, AJ Green, Landry, Beckham Jr, etc.) were always going to the SEC because of location and those guys were TOP OF THE LINE receivers in High School. Many of them were 5-stars. Julio Jones was very close to going to OU, in fact most believed he was a silent commit up until signing day ($ talks).

            If you believe Jones is a top NFL WR because he played at Bama, you’re fooling yourself. He would be in the same position he’s in if he played in the NFL. Kenny Stills would be in the same position he’s in if he would have played for Bama, etc.

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            It’s not a theory, it’s what the kids say. I don’t disagree one bit with what u said. I simply stated one of the top reasons that answers the original question.

      • Kevin Burger says:

        It’s partially true. Based on the most recent data I could find LSU has the most active WR alumni in the NFL at 10, Miami is second at 9, Florida is 3rd at 8, then there’s a big tie for the next batch at 6. The schools that are tied are: ASU, Arkansas, Baylor, Missouri, Ohio State, Oklahoma, and Rutgers.

      • DCinAZ says:

        Only 5 of the current top 20 NFL receivers are from the SEC and one of those was a Sherman recruit while ATM was still in the BIG XII.

      • DCinAZ says:

        I don’t think they’re better prepared at all. I think the NFL wants the Dez Bryants and Megatrons of the world and the BIG XII doesn’t produce a lot of big, physical WRs like that because they recruit smaller, shiftier WRs.

        • Boom says:

          quit making sense, it confuses everything.

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            Ok genius, then get back to the original question. Why aren’t we landing the guys just spoken about?

          • RBear says:

            My take, FWIW- these guys are generally a bit too big for their britches, want to be the BMOC, THE guy. Generally not the best TEAM guys- and, to Stoops’ and our coaching staff’s credit in general, they don’t recruit that kind of kid, they want character guys.

          • Boom says:

            Simple. I grow up in Oklahoma, most likely I want to play for OU. I grow up in the southeast, I’m gonna play in the SEC. The SEC is spoon fed to them from birth. Nothing wrong with it but the demographics produce some amazing athletics.

          • DCinAZ says:

            We have. Dallis Todd was a very highly recruited big WR that hasn’t gotten on the field at all for whatever reason.

            We got the other 5 star guy from Missouri that spent all his time beating off in his car who was highly recruited.

            Malcom Kelly was a diva with no work ethic.

          • Clint Lenard says:

            Metoyer was from Texas. That kid was a surefire NFL WR. Too bad he enjoyed himself more than Football.

          • DCinAZ says:

            No he wasn’t a transfer from Texas. He was sent to Hargrave Military Academy and transferred to OU from there.

          • Rick says:

            I think he was probably referring to the fact Metoyer was from Whitehouse, tx. Couldn’t make the grades went to Hargrave Mil, then to OU, I think in the 2012 class.

          • Clint Lenard says:

            Lol…you said he was from Missouri. I corrected you and said he was from Texas. The state. I’m very familiar with his background.

          • DCinAZ says:

            Yep. My bad. You were correct.

          • DCinAZ says:

            I know. Also making sense, Jordy Nelson (out for season) and Dez Bryant (injured for most of season) don’t show up on that top 25 NFL WRs list because of……..injuries.

          • Boom says:

            Maclin was from big 12 (mizzou) and DGB before they went SEC. I could go on.

          • DCinAZ says:

            Mike Evans was recruited while ATM was still a BIG XII team.

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            Ok, whatever my man. If u truly believe there is more big 12 WR talent in the league then I’m glad to hear that. you win, you hate the SEC the most.

          • DCinAZ says:

            Derick Woods was highly recruited but stole everything that wasn’t bolted to the floor and got kicked out.
            Kameel Jackson was highly recruited diva and a lockerroom cancer that transferred to ATM and fizzled out.
            DeJuan Miller, career doghouse player.
            Mark Andrews is highly recruited and still here.
            Courtney Gardner
            Durron Neal

            You sure you really researched this?

            Need I go on?

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            Ur list of star WR we pulled is indeed impressive. I remember every one of them. you can go on as long as you’d like to prove ur point. No I didn’t research anything, just stated what’s been stated by recruits. Argue with them, not me. Sorry, but ur list of “what could have beens” isn’t really a compelling argument. Some of the others in here, yea, but this list, no.

          • DCinAZ says:

            You said we weren’t landing the recruits. I showed you a list of highly recruited kids we landed, most of which burned out due to behavioral problems. I don’t see how my point isn’t a “compelling argument” just because most of them fizzled out. We’re landing them. They aren’t holding up their end of the deal.

          • Jpsooner23 says:

            sigh….

            Read the original question and response again bro. He posed the question as to how the SEC pulls the WR they do. I simply stated one of the primary reasons why. U guys turned this into an us vs. them thing and I fell for it.

            Bottom line, the list of elite WR from that conf is impressive. By no means am I discounting those that have come here.

            You win. Will that make this stop!?

          • DCinAZ says:

            I think most of them pull in the kids they do because they’re recruited to their state school and that’s where they want to go.

          • Hi5s4OU says:

            Dont forget years back..Tristan Ross…..oh wait

          • Boom says:

            Dude, that’s not the point. Yes, there are more SEC players in the league. Yes, there are better WRs in the SEC territory and yes, there are 4 more teams in the SEC to send kids to college.
            Never once did I say, there is more big 12 talent in the NFL.

          • Indy_sooner says:

            Wes Welker- Heritage Hall 99′

        • SoonerfanTU says:

          That is the point I was trying to make. I get why A.J. Green, or Julio Jones, or Amari Cooper went to the SEC. I don’t get why a kid like Velus Jones would want to.

    • DCinAZ says:

      Baylor doesn’t seem to struggle landing WRs.

    • RBear says:

      Big fish, little pond

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Tulsa World article today suggested we may use four LB’s on the field against Watson, have we setup that way against anyone else this year?

  • @Boom_Town_ says:

    Demetric Warren has Velus going to OU as late as yesterday, but those crystal balls aren’t necessarily always on point.

    • Defend Colfax says:

      Anxious to hear about this resolve.

      • RBear says:

        How many recruits decisions do you thing hang on this decision?

        • EasTex says:

          Kelly’s statement haunts me…”I go where Viney goes.”

          • RBear says:

            I know, I don’t even want to bring it up… If we find a spot for him on the staff, does that mean we have to let someone else go? Or, can a new position be created/shared… NCAA regs in play?

          • EasTex says:

            Someone posted the regs concerning how many coaches are allowed, but I can’t remember the numbers. It was stated then that the staff was full, so someone would have to be let go to make room.

          • RBear says:

            🙁

          • RBear says:

            What if Coach Merv were to retire?

          • Bob Edwards says:

            The staff is full of on the field coaches. I don’t think there are limits on any others. They can give him a job, he just can’t coach on the field unless we get rid of someone else. He also can’t do any recruiting off campus. He did do a little of that this year, but it was because we were short in the interim between the firings/leavings and the hiring of the new coaches.

    • SamSooner says:

      RBear, how are you, sir? Who is Boomer16? Is that a player or coach?

      • EasTex says:

        I can answer.
        He is a TFB contributor(can’t remember his nic) that makes fantastic OU related photoshops as a hobby with his son. Click on his twitter feed.

      • RBear says:

        Doing well Sam, thanks- I haven’t a clue as to who Boomer16 is, just ran across it.

        Hope all is well w/you.

        • SamSooner says:

          It is, sir. Busy, with school (kids) and Christmas. Life is good and God is great. EasTex answered the Boomer16 question.

    • Defend Colfax says:

      That’s higher than I expected for Penn State but then again there really aren’t a lot of true blue bloods. Everyone just anoints themselves these days.

      • RBear says:

        Adorning themselves in 247 different uni combinations along the way…

        • Defend Colfax says:

          True. Honestly for as mediocre as PSU has been in the 21st century that’s pretty impressive but then again the Big East wasn’t the toughest. Also, everyone should behold the power of the original incarnation of the Big XII.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      Penn State is the only school on that list that OU hasn’t played, or isn’t scheduled to play in the somewhat near future, under Bob.

      LOVE how he schedules.

  • SoonerinLondon says:

    Man, they are rockin’ through the stadium reno. Sooner Club sent out this pick of the new entrance the team will use.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWNjaMAVAAAALs9.jpg:large

  • Swanny says:

    Have y’all seen this lol? Why isn’t this talked about more on the recruiting trail?

    https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/676507078203064325

  • EasTex says:

    I never read this story before, pretty neat.
    https://twitter.com/OU_CoachStoops/status/676527526953492481

  • CrimsonNative says:

    OU’s road to the college football playoff, if anyone’s interested. ESPNU

  • EasTex says:

    Season finale for Fargo at 9.
    Good season.

    • SoonerinLondon says:

      Yep.

      I don’t think it was as good as last year, but it was pretty close.

      The mafia business sure has gone corporate.

      • EasTex says:

        I liked the first year, but in terms of production quality, sound track and story telling I thought this was better by far. Makes me think next year’s show might be even better.

  • Birddawg says:

    I hate Clemson

  • Sooner Ray says:

    What a catch by Stills for a TD!

    • Sooner Ray says:

      Sounds like he was close to being ours this weekend. Those future visits scare me a little, hopefully the coaches and players stay real close.

      • EasTex says:

        I like this young man. Seems to have a good head and good support. I hope he comes to OU, but I do respect his thoughtfulness.

  • Boomer4life says:

    Good night everybody! I’ll get the lights.

  • Glocal Sooner says:

    So no “#JustWaitOnIt” tag on the Velus Jones post? That’s not good news.

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