Open Post | Thursday, Jan. 21st (UPDATE 8:55 pm)
Posted on: January 21, 2016
– Chris Daniels: While Daniels decommitting from Oklahoma last night was a tough blow, most Sooner fans sensed it could possibly be coming. I did have a chance to speak with Daniels father last night after the decommittment.
The Daniels family has hosted a number of coaches all week. The remaining visit schedule is Tennessee this weekend followed by Texas A&M on the final weekend. Based on my conversation with Daniels farther, here is where I see the primary schools Daniels is considering.
Tennessee: The Vols would have to have a monstrous impact on the Daniels family this weekend to really have a shot.
Texas A&M: TAMU was at one time Daniels favorite and his father admitted that he was headed that direction. However, when TAMU became unsure of their numbers and discontinued recruiting Daniels that seemed to put the nail in the coffin. But with a visit coming up, it’s hard for me to count them out just yet. Coaches have a way of smoothing things over.
Oklahoma: In talking to Chris’ dad you get the strong sense that while they really loved the trip to Texas last weekend, there is still a lot of loyalty they feel towards Oklahoma. The word I heard over and over is “safe”. They feel Oklahoma has the most stability and as Daniels Sr said, “they’re right there…a few more players and they can win the national championship”. I get the sense that if his son can’t decide on a clear winner then the family may lean Oklahoma because of how long the relationship with coach Stoops and Reynolds has been there and because of how close they feel the Sooners are to making it to the national championship.
Texas: Texas hasn’t been recruiting Daniels long but they’ve turned young Daniels head. He apparently had an amazing time on the official visit. And something that’s also really helped Texas is a former teammate and close friend of Daniels in freshman starting OL, Patrick Vahe. Daniels’ Sr said that Vahe is a guy that Daniels isn’t just friends with but also respects immensely and in a lot of ways, “looks up to him”. Right now I get the sense that young Daniels likes Texas and they may be at the top of his list.
Next week, Oklahoma, Texas and TAMU will do their final in-home visits with the Daniels. Coach Bob Stoops has already done his visit with Daniels so coach Reynolds and whoever else he brings will be going up again coach Sumlin and coach Strong who haven’t made visits just yet.
In the meantime, I can tell you that the Sooners are working on some other guys in hopes of perhaps flipping someone. The difficult is that Chris was expected to be more a of B gap (3/4i tech as OU plays multiple fronts) for OU. Players like that need to be taller and longer guys like Daniels and finding those 6’3/6’4 280+ lb guys that can get off the ball this late is a chore. – (Super K)
– New Visitor Named: Yesterday we mentioned that an ACC OLB commit would be visiting this weekend but we withheld the name since we had not yet been given permission to put it out by the young man. Well, he did give us the ok. The player visiting is Louisville commit PJ Blue (Montgomery, AL). Blue told one of our affiliates that he is extremely excited about the OU visit. – (Brandon)
– Caleb Kelly: We received a lot of questions yesterday about the status of Caleb Kelly. For a long time it’s been believed that it was only a matter of time before he would sign with OU. I’ve checked around and I don’t believe anyone can say definitively where he ends up but there does seem to be truth to the notion that Notre Dame is a bigger contender in this that may have been previously thought. Kelly has a top 3 of OU, Notre Dame and Oregon and it sounds like it will come down to the Sooners and the Irish. Hey, who doesn’t like a little drama? – (Super K)
– Kapri Doucet: JUCO LB Kapri Doucet announced last night that he will announce his final decision on Monday following his OU visit which is scheduled for this weekend. Schools in the running for Doucet’s commitment include Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisville. – (Brandon)
– Amani Bledsoe: With Daniels decommitting, Bledsoe became that much more important. Coach Diron Reynolds is set to do an in-home visit with Bledsoe today. Bledsoe is down to OU and Kansas. – (Brandon)
– Team Note | Testing: The Sooners did their testing yesterday. As he tweeted, John Humphrey did indeed run the fastest 40 time. I’m told Dede Westbrook was 2nd. Interestingly, I was told that safety Hatari Byrd actually posted the best shuttle time at 4.09. That’s some impressive start/stop and COD for a young man of that size and stature.
I asked about Chanse Sylvie’s times but apparently he has not been cleared yet. A note on Sylvie, it sounds like he’s very liked within the program so far…has all the makings of a great teammate. – (Super K)
– Mark Jackson: I chatted with star OLB/DE and TAMU commit, Mark Jackson last night before his in-home visit with Baylor. Jackson confirmed that he’s still on for his Oklahoma visit next weekend. Jackson tells me he will make his final decision between TAMU, OU, Baylor and Texas. In talking to a source, Jackson seems to be a real possibility for OU. The possibility of coming in and starting at the Jack positition that Eric Striker vacated is appealing. Even before his commitment to TAMU Mark was never shy about expressing his interest in the Sooners. Last night he sent me a picture from earlier this week of coach Stoops and coach Strong who did their in-home visits with him on the same day. – (Super K)
Mark Jackson, the recruit that brings #Sooners & #Horns together. Strong & Stoops on their in-home w him yesterday pic.twitter.com/weDqDwMmHL
— Super K (@SuperK_TFB) January 20, 2016
– UPDATE (11:47 am): Rivals’ Jason Howell is reporting that 2016 OU cornerback commit Parrish Cobb will be in Austin this weekend to visit Texas. TFB has been aware of the possibility of this visit, but as of the time of this update what we’ve been told is that plans are still somewhat up in the air. Which isn’t to say Howell’s report is inaccurate, rather it just slightly differs from the latest information we have been provided. Obviously we’ll keep you up to date as best we can regarding the visit one way or the other.
– UPDATE (12:58 pm): Sooners have apparently extended an offer to 2017 ATH Devin Morris (Caldwell, TX).
https://twitter.com/dmorris_11/status/690246001840402433
– UPDATE (2:57 pm):
Can now confirm @RivalsJason report that #OU DB commit Parrish Cobb will visit #Texas this weekend. @Andrew_TFB @TheFbBrainiacs
— Brandon Drumm (@Bdrumm_Rivals) January 21, 2016
– UPDATE (3:21 pm): Your working visitor list for this weekend.
– UPDATE (3:45 pm): #boom.
– UPDATE (8:55 pm): Sooners are getting a big visitor. We have confirmed through someone close to Baylor OL commit, Patrick Hudson that he will take an official visit to Oklahoma. When I asked when the visit would be the source said, “no date set yet but soon”.
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If you’re not first, you’re last!
Absolute truth when it comes to getting a RECRUIT. The only worse game to come in second is poker.
yep.
Any news on Velus Jones in-home visit? That’s one that I’ve been interested in hearing about from you guys.
Nothing just yet my man
Okay cool. That’s a guy who I’m hoping we land. Keep up the great work guys!
You should feel pretty good if that’s the guy you want.
I’m hoping its going to be good. I’ve felt good about our chances with him for a bit, but alittle more confirmation always helps. I think he would be perfect in the way they used Sterling in the slot or outside with his speed. I like his tape a lot.
is Chanse Sylvie going to be an impact player or just a great teammate?
Don’t know much about him yet in that regard. He hasn’t been cleared so he can’t participate in anything.
thats fair.. I was mainly asking what you thought based off his film and camp numbers or whatever
It’s been a while since I’ve seen his film but I remember him being able to play the alley well and certainly…quick reads and downhill and physical.
Cleared as in academically, or cleared as in physically?
physical
Great work. Would have rather read that the Caleb Kelly stuff was nonsense but oh well let’s hope the rumors of negative recruiting end up rubbing him the wrong way.
Good for Byrd. I wonder if they will get creative to get him on the field. Maybe ask him to get up to 225+ and bring him down into the box.
Thanks Zack. Honestly, it surprised me as well.
The dude can bring the wood no doubt… could be fun to see him get after the QB from time to time.
It would be nice if he learned how to wrap up… But that could go for quite a few players..
no kidding………..tests like Tarzan ; plays like Jane.
Don’t get me wrong he can hit like Tarzan but he needs to upgrade from the loin cloth and find a better way to wrap up!
TFB is like a GREAT Mullet….
Business in the front (Recruiting/Team Information)
Party in the back (Every TFB’er that comments in the Disqus section)
LOL love that movie!
I’m with ya! Lol, it’s so stupid… that it’s funny.
Thanks for all you guys do. TFB has and continues to be my one-stop shop for all things OU Recruiting, etc.
https://twitter.com/OWHbigred/status/690212521941204992
Surely Nebraska should like their chances of flipping him.
seems likely at this point
still no word on what really went down between OU and jefferson? weird situation
I’ve liked Jefferson’s game since I watched McGuinnes’s film last year. Jumped out at you. But seems the staff is looking for the guy that plays safety at most schools to spin to LB ala Blue and Beal.
Hmm. You don’t think Arkansas is a player for Daniels?
Noticed that also. I think they’re a real contender for him
I thought they could be but I think it was a little too late. If he would’ve changed his Tennessee trip or TAMU trip and visited Arkansas instead then maybe but without that…I just don’t see it.
What is PJ Blue projecting as? He’s listed as an OLB but he’s pretty light to play that position at this level.
Yea but nearing 6’4″ he could add some good weight during a redshirt year.
Not sure just yet. Haven’t seen his film. But as long as he’s got the frame, HS weight can be remedied
bout to have a heart attack at work reading about these kids flipping
I added Blue’s film, if you haven’t already searched it out yourself. Just refresh and hopefully it you’ll see it added in the post above.
Tennesse is an interesting one for Daniels. They have a couple young bulls in Mckenzie and Tutle. Mckenzie flipped (or was a big part of it) Richmond from Ole Mi$$ last year and is always recruiting for the Vols. That would be a pretty formidable line in a couple years.
I think Tennessee isn’t really in this one
K – I hate to bash on you, but you asked “who doesn’t like a little drama?” I would like to submit that I, for one, would prefer no drama and that everyone we were interested in just signed with us. But wishful thinking and all that.
haha bash away my friend 🙂 One way or another NSD this year will be exciting. Poor Bama fans, they’ve got nothing to look forward to haha
That’s okay – most of them have yet to sober up after the NC.
Can’t argue with that I guess haha
National signing day is going to be like the 4th of July i hope.. Boom Boom boom boom.. all day long.. 🙂
What happens if Beal and Doucet both commit after this weekend. Do we have room for Kelly, Jackson, Bowen and/or Tupai?
hopefully the coaches tell beal and doucet to hold their decisions until feb 3 because all the players u mentioned are much better IMO
That’s why I wasn’t thrilled with the Beal offer. I like Doucet’s film a lot but don’t know why we’d take 2 JUCO LBs when we’re in on a lot of talented HS LBs
I didn’t like the Beal offer until I saw his film… kid is a tremendous athlete.
Completely agree!
“The word I keep hearing over and over is ‘safe.'”
That’s interesting. I sorta view that like being in “the friend zone.” Yeah you like the girl, she’s really nice and she’s a nice catch, but ultimately you’re gonna ask out the girl of your dreams
Not to open this particular can of worms, but those words sound like they’re connected to some “friend zone” experience……..
I have once, as I assume others have since it’s a pretty common experience.
Regardless of my personal experience, it’s not hard to know what the friend zone is and make that comparison to this situation.
I hear ya my friend. Jokes only from me, I’ve been there
“It’s not YOU- it’s ME” lol
I think the chances of landing Daniels now is less than 1%. I had previously said it was 50/50 and people mocked that. If we were still in the picture, he wouldn’t have decommitted in the first place.
Not really interested in Blue. He played SS in high school and was late to react on some of the plays. Saw him get drove backwards on a couple plays. If we had a GREAT recruiting class then I can see taking a few “chance guys” and moving them around to see what they can do.
i don’t know what really goes on behind the scenes in recruiting but its time for a change. OU should be top 12 every year and not worry about “filling in spots” 2 weeks away
Not really used to seeing OU this far behind in the ranking for recruiting. It’s getting worse each year.
That’s completely inaccurate.
A move to the sec would fix that, in my opinion.
Why does everybody think a move to the SEC would send our recruiting into the stratosphere? Hasn’t been the case for Missouri.
Don’t compare us to Missouri. I think most agree what we lack we would gain from the hype. We obviously would be more appealing to the SE and I have a feeling we’d have a better chance at one of those SoCal kids we barely miss on.
I think it’s reasonable to ask why people think we’d get a bump in recruiting if we moved to the SEC whether we’re Missouri or not. We’re OU right now and always have been. OU is OU. I don’t think our conference is what’s really dragging us down. Baylor is recruiting just fine (as is Houston) and on the verge of a top 10 class. What’s dragging us down is Texas nativism and the highschool coaches and college coaches in the state convincing players to stay and play in Texas. That won’t change just because we move to the SEC.
But what I’m saying is we wouldn’t be as reliant on Texas if we did because that’s not a win situation.
+1 for the Texas nativism. That’s OUr biggest battle.
I wouldn’t worry about some of the Texas kids wanting to stay in state next year. I wont tell you their names but some of the top players in the state of Texas think that the University of Texas and University of Texas a&m are completely irrelevant and those players hold offers from both schools. Those players are more interested in Bama , LSU , Georgia . In their eyes the SEC is the best conference and the ticket to the NFL.
I feel it would put us at the top of the BS that ESPN shoves down our throat. We would have a bigger presence in that part of the country, where the majority of 4 and 5 star athlete’s live. Of course this is totally from a football point of view. I’ve forever hated the sec conference, but if you can’t beat them you might as well join them.
We CAN beat them. So we don’t need to jion them.
He has a Bama and Clemson offer. They must see something good.
…and UTenn… I liked his film and apparently some pretty good coaches like the kid, too.
I just want to hear about us stealing every recruit from A&M.. I HATE hearing OU recruits considering A&M because then I have to hear about how we can’t recruit against them. Want to know from a College Station resident how delusional they really are? They honestly think they were in the running for A. Peterson, they think Fran let him walk. I have to tell them all the time that AP’s final 3 were UT, USC and OU….they never listen.
Thank you, K & Brandon. Much appreciated. Did you happen to see Humphrey and Westbrook’s 40 times and if so can you share them?
4.28 for Humphrey
whoa…that’s blazing fast, and thanks
Yes sir! Now if only he can catch.
Yeah, that kind of speed keeps safeties out of the box, which should only help Samaje and Mixon
I receiver with bad hands is not the optimum situation.
Problem last spring was, he out ran his hands. When the ball got there it just fell to the ground. I hear he has been working hard to correct the drops. He will be a good one.
“…out ran his hands.” – Nice work.
So….just a thought…maybe Humphries could be our new fair catch guy
I could be our new fair catch guy… and I’m 5’7″, weigh 155, and can’t run out of sight in a week.
Not sure there’s a whole lot of prerequisites required to stand back and fair catch punts like we’ve had someone do for a while now.
Two of them.
1) Wave hand over head
2) Catch ball
Coach I can do that. Put me in coach.
Get in there, kid. Catch one for the Gipper!
To clarify, this is taking nothing away from what Shep did. More of an observation of our punt return strategy – or lack thereof – as a whole
“strategy”…kind of like “close your eyes and it will go away”
Very similar to that, you’ve got it. Since you have the strategy down, you can be our new designated punt return coach, I’ll be the new designated punt “returner”.
Ready, Break!
Seems like the combo of the two of us could save the university lots of cash. I’d do that job for $100K. “No, no, NO! Stop RUNNING, you guys!”
I’d probably do it for $10 and a warm beer just for the thrill of doing it.
So, you’re saying you run like a dried up creek? Someone get this man a scholly!
Good a description as any
5’7 155, I’m not sure we have room for any scat backs, and by scat back I mean shitty athletes.
That’s a little cold, he could walk on. He’d be listed as the “Fair catch guy”
Thanks for the defense there Golf. Nice to know my dream of being “fair catch guy” is still alive!
Don’t let me squash your dreams, you don’t have to be able to hit a note to win a grammy or play defense to get to the NBA.
Haha good point there
Not so fast! New coaching philosophy is to do away with fair catch also – too much risk of a fumble. Just let it hit and hope for a good bounce.
Darn you Cush….. I read “not so fast” in Lee Corso’s voice. I blame you
You should not watch shows like that – too little class and education. Step up to Saturday morning cartoons – they outpace Corso.
Funny enough I don’t watch Game Day hardly ever, but that’s still engraved in my memory
Brahahaha! True!
Well, one prerequisite is that you’d better not miss or bobble the ball, unless you don’t mind being crushed by a host of rather large young men, who are barreling down on you 🙂
A very good prerequisite no doubt
I, for one, am strongly in favor of the concept of, upon receipt of the punt, advancing the football upfield to attain a more advantageous field position with which to commence offensive plays. But I’m old school. I may not understand the new thinking.
Them is a whole bunch of technical terms there… and they don’t make no sense. Why move the ball forward when you can fair catch it? I don’t get it
Seems like a waste of energy to me.
Poppycock! Balderdash!
Hey! We need one of those!
@jordanesco:disqus I know you’ll appreciate this particular comment thread
lol right. With that kind of speed he could probably raise his hand faster than anyone else on the team.
At this point I’m surprised the PR didn’t have their hand up before the snap.
He probably did but we just didnt see it on camera
Like Blue’s film. Enough speed played safety some. Good instincts. Checked out Emanuel Beal, 6’1 200ish played WR in hs and signed w/ Marshal but ended up at CC. Staff looking for that athletic ‘Striker-type’ guy.
Two things: 1) Very concerned about DL situation, 2) The Daniels deal just makes me shake my head
bagmen
Im not too worried about the DL, but I am worried about depth the next couple of years.
which can become a problem if/when none are signed in a particular yr
definitely
2017 class is loaded with 5 star type of Defensive lineman , I’m not too worried.
Right now. I fear they can’t hold onto them.
Why you think that?
Me? I don’t know. 2017 is a long way off…
I know a couple of kids in the 2017 class , I feel very confident about a few of them.
I’m glad you feel confident. I just saw what OU’s lines looked like compared to the contenders’ and it was kinda scary.
Spring & Summer workouts haven’t stated yet , we have plenty of time to improve. We have Baker ” The 6 god ” Mayfield as our QB and leader of this team , this team will be better next year Trust me.
I think he just means available, chicken little. We currently have no Dline commits for ’17
“available chicken little”? What is this? Is it a book? A soup?
I’d tell you but I’m not sure you could handle it.
Dude. R-E-L-A-X. I get it, you’re calling me a “Chicken Little”. That said, I don’t understand why. I never said the end was nigh, I just have a fear that we might not hang onto all those prized recruits. How is that “the sky is falling”?
I guess I’m just here often.
I’m not Stephen, man. Only agreed with him one time…and I didn’t like it!
I also agree that loosing Daniels sucks but I think the position he plays is one that doesn’t need to be worried about as much as others. The guys we have returning next year are all top recruits and young:
94 Matt Dimon DT 6-2 260 5 Jr.
90 Neville Gallimore DT 6-3 345 1 Fr.
50 Courtney Garnett DT 6-1 301 2 RFr.
57 Du’Vonta Lampkin DT 6-4 300 1 Fr.
99 Dwayne Orso-Bacchus DT 6-5 300 2 RFr.
98 Marquise Overton DT 6-1 309 1 Fr.
92 Matthew Romar DT 6-0 291 4 RSo.
93 Jordan Wade DT 6-3 300 6 RJr.
97 Charles Walker DT 6-2 297 4 RSo.
That 3 Fr, 2 RFr, and 2 RSo so we should be ok just need to add a couple next year if we end up without any this year. Sorry if this point got covered I started typing a couple hours ago at work but then got distracted! LOL!
Could Dalton Wood do that?
I don’t know, I haven’t heard whether he can stand still and catch yet
Or if he’s even really here…or ever will be.
well if he’s not then they don’t have to worry about him muffing the punt
He is enrolled anyway.
I hear he’s pretty good at catching babies. Sorry this was meant in regards to dalton wood haha
Really worried about losing Kelly. All of these new OLB offers make me think OU is hedging their bets (which isn’t a bad thing).
Kelly +
I’m sure this has already been said on here before, but I for one am not concerned about the number of OLB offers going out as of late. If i’m looking at our roster for next year on defense, linebacker is a position that could afford to have some depth given the number of guys going to the draft or graduating as well as the number of guys with little to no college game time experience. Also it seems the linebacker position is a constant revolving door during the season due to injuries.
I’m happy you’re happy and unconcerned about quality and quantity at OLB / ILB…Just because it was a weakness in 2015 is no reason for you to be concerned.
Stephen Dale, did Bingo get cancelled today?
This post seems to be missing several dots. What’s up with that?
re : conversation with Dad : there’s always an excuse when one is looking… OU has to move on.
no. they don’t
Have you ever posted anything positive about OU? Just curious#2
A question’s not really a question if you know the answer too.
yesterday—-all day long….you need to read more.
I read enough to stay informed and enough to know you are an OU hater
Vahe is a good player, I can see why Daniels looks up to him.
Daniels couldn’t use Texas record the past two seasons or lack of a post seas game after 2015 as decision-makers. And he wouldn’t say the friendship between mr Daniels and Strong made the difference or that Charlie possibly played the ‘race card’.. a supposed friendship is as good an excuse as any………
Agree
Careful what you wish for…http://thebiglead.com/2016/01/20/texas-usc-and-florida-have-whiffed-on-a-lot-of-five-star-recruits/?ref=yfp
Only reason Kelly would be considering Oregon imo is location….oh and nike. Other than that I think Helfrich is on the hot seat and they wont be a NC contender for a little while.
it will a surprise IF Kelly actually signs with OU….He is still looking for a ‘fit’ or he would have cancelled all remaining visits and committed to OU months ago……on the other hand, the PAC offers much better trips and more publicity as well as being closer to home. Can’t blame him for considering Oregon..
Have you ever posted anything positive about OU? Just curious
He tried to yesterday but everyone smelled a skunk.
That’s not his thing. He posts how we are going to lose every game and every recruit we are after, yet never once has admitted to being wrong. I think he is really Jim Traber.
He has maintained for months how he would have a school picked well before NSD but would not announce anything until that time. He has said he would most likely silent commit well before. He took all his visits long ago with Notre Dame being 6 weeks ago. He wasn’t considering them at that time (at least that he has told anyone) and he hasn’t said he is considering them now. Everything that I have seen is Notre Dame is pushing, not Kelly. I’ve heard they have asked their media to get involved to help the push (IE Tom Loy predicting ND). He is still talking everyday to his friends on the Sooner roster and in this upcoming class. Plus OU has the last coaches visit with him. If Viney leaves, things could change but I think OU will find a way to keep him.
work is slow so I’m doing OU work, obviously there is many factors in recruiting hits and misses but according to 247 this is OU recruiting ranks since 2003
National Big12
6 / 1
8 / 1
2 / 1
8 / 2
18 / 2
5 / 1
9 / 2
4 / 2
13 / 2
12 / 2
16 / 1
14 / 1
14 / 2
looking at National ranks of 31and big 12 of 3 at the moment(behind baylor and tcu but texsa will jump us)
agree. Baylor, Texas, & TCU at the top of the conference recruiting. WV seems to be doing well although Holgerson always seems to hit the Florida areas and Washington DC hard……
add lampkin and kyler murray and we are closer to 5 than 14
definitely true…also could change quite a few classes with attrition/transfers both in and out of the program.
That’s scary. First time in 13 years OU doesn’t have one of the top 2 classes in the conference?
mull this over : OU has ZERO commits from DFW ; ZERO commits from San Antonio; ZERO from North Central Texas ; and only 1 ( one) from Houston !
I get tired of listening to the radio shows and all they can say about this situation are negative comments about an 18 year old changing his mind. I cannot begin to imagine someone that age having second thoughts with a lot of influential people in his ear. While i would certainly love to see Mr. Daniels sign with OU, if he doesn’t, the sun will still come up and there will be another day. Super K, thanks for the objective facts and not just speculation about the events that have given this young man a chance to sit back and really think about his future.
Obviously the young man is entitled to do whats best for him and I wish him luck.
My only gripe, kids really need to learn what the word commitment means.
EXACTLY ! if one isn’t sure, don’t commit and give your word. Conversely, OU should not have accepted his commitment without a cancellation of all remaining visits… That was a mack Brown mantra and it worked well for him…
Yeah that guy owned little Bobby huh?
Mack lost few guys who committed to Texas yet thought about taking more visits. mack told them their scholarship would be used elsewhere if they took another visit…whether he could evaluate talent is another matter. Point is , Mack drew a line in the sand and forced the texas commits to honor their word or else…..a vast majority of them did after giving a commitment to Mack & staff……..
Winning is the only thing that matters old man. Stoops>Brown
Committing these days means having a current favorite for lots of recruits. Then there are others who commit and stand by it because they are really committed.
see Chanse Sylvie
true enough.
JMT as well
Youngquist, too.
I call it “Committing v. Saving a Spot”. If you cancel all visits, you are “committed”. If you commit and keep taking visits and phone calls, you’ve merely “saved your spot”. Huge difference.
Imo if there is any school to worry about when recruiting the LB position it would be ND… Really wish I had won the powerball so I could have helped ‘boost’ our recruiting this year…
https://twitter.com/calebkkelly/status/690038499769204737
Is Kelly just waiting to see if OU keeps Viney. I know that was a common thought that where Viney went so would Caleb.
That’s something I’ve been thinking too but haven’t commented about. It would seem like something that’s not a huge consideration…but still.
I still think he ends up at OU. (Viney too)
I hope so, I hope they hang on to Chip.
Me too
Yep- it was good seeing him active on the recruiting trail via twitter etc. Right now it’s crickets on the Viney front
I just can’t imagine that any recruit would follow a GA.
True, but the Cali guys are clickish, Samia is sort of an exception…but the other guys seem to stick together.
Sounds like Quick is reassuring him of “something”
Viney is a Fresno guy if I’m not mistaken. And he was also a big key in Byrd and Quick too
I meant Grad Assistant, not Georgia.
Yeah I know, was just saying he is kind of the cool coach that relates to those guys because he knows where they come from
Gotcha, but it’s risky going somewhere because of a GA. They are seldom anywhere beyond a couple of years.
In fact, their are limited by rule to how long the can stay a GA.
i think that is true for any position coach as well
It’s less true of a position coach. You are limited by NCAA rules to the length of time you can stay as a GA. There are plenty of position coaches that have stayed someplace for five years. But a hot young coach probably ain’t going to be there five years unless the guys above him leave and he gets promoted.
Yes sir
I would assume they won’t announce anything until after NSD at this point, but you never know.
I believe TFB said yesterday they have news on Viney that they can’t divulge right now.
Makes sense, last year Bob didn’t announce Monty leaving until after NSD.
KJ, if I remember correctly, that whole thing with Monty went down after NSD. It came out of the blue for Bob.
I think you’re right, I know it wasn’t known until after NSD but I dont remember if it was Bob that broke the news.
” who doesn’t like a little drama? – (Super K)” Me, when it comes to recruiting, I want certainty!
update added
*downdate*
yikes…again
Adding Mayden to the class is all the more important now
I think it was important before, if they lose Cobb it becomes a borderline absolute must.
true, I’m still hoping Mbanasor takes off in the spring and locks down one spot and JT doesn’t take a step back either.
I still have a good feeling about PJ and I too hope this happens!
Okay, TFB need to start reporting Booms and not glooms. Let’s get those final Sooners locked down.
Cobb will be the next to ‘flip’…
Have you ever posted anything positive about OU? Just curious#3
yesterday—all day long………you need to read more.
Well that is a lie! I have read your posts and all are negative unless talking girls basketball. You actually referred to yourself as a glass half empty guy. So if your talking about girls bball then yes positive when talking recruiting, football roster and even yourself it was negative. Not saying you have been wrong in your thoughts just saying Dale island is a very cloudy and rainy place.
Inside info?
wishful thinking.
dagnabbit, we were all hoping you were going to be our next flip 🙁
I predict all our commitments will flip and we won’t sign one player.
And here’s your T shirt. I made it myself just for you. You’ve earned it.
Bob looks like he’s getting ready to sucker punch Strong
Looks like it c/b the other way around the way things seem (key word) to be trending.
Well Im going off of the picture and Bobs fist…like he knows Strong is there to get Daniels so he’s gonna take a little blood hehe
I just figured Chuck was asking Bob about an assistant job for 2017.
I think Chuck is wearing the grin of a man who is asking for a loan with plans to skip town.
yeah asking if Mike is going to take another job or stay hehe
Nice graphic; did anyone proof this?
https://twitter.com/scoutrecruiting/status/690234216924119040
texsa holds the #4 and #5 spot.
He-who-must-not-be-named
He might actually give this a boom.
I’m sure he’d find something negative. I might start referring to him as “Huggies” because he’s an a** wipe.
Yeah but you get to dispose of Huggies once they start to stink.
LMAO
I bet he has a head the size of a peanut and the brain the size of a sesame seed.
Well since the top five are all Texas, the Huggies will be handy when he pees his pants in glee.
Yet another reason to put a lot of stock in their ranking system.
they deleted it… DOH!
Too late, we have proof.
Haha that’s funny
This isn’t showing up for me what is it?
THIS…and I already refreshed.
They took it down, but nothing is ever truly lost on the Internet.
Rivals ranking texsa both 4th and 5th in the conference in recruiting
EDIT: Sorry, Scout
If you refresh now, I captured the image and uploaded it.
I think Doucet is a lock….but dont quote me 🙂
keep the positive flowing
two positive posts in a row. My head is spinning.
I will interpret that as, KJ says Doucet is absolutely a positive maybe, sorta, kinda.
Exactly Rick!
KJ, in all the years, I’ve watched these NSD’s come and go, EVERY recruit is an absolute, positive, maybe, sorta, kinda recruit until they fax in their paperwork on NSD. You never know what’s going through these guys heads, they are very young, they are inexperienced, their heads might turn by a beautiful young lady, or a coach claiming “racism”. The only recruit we have this year, I would have bet the farm on is Roberson, he wants to be a Sooner. If he never plays a snap, I’ll respect him for that, I do hope in 2-4 years down the line, we are talking about him being an AA. Boomer!!!!!!!!!!
Don’t forget about Sylvie and JMT . Their Loyalty to OU is unbreakable.
I hear ya Rick, I would put Yougnquist in there too. He’s been solid.
I agree, with Youngquist and Sylvie and JMT from you and Scott, but, in my mind they still would not be absolute locks in my book, good bets, but not absolute locks. I don’t think Roberson would have attempted to play anywhere else, or even considered a visit.
And you really don’t count them until the get on campus. See Dalton Wood.
Good Point!
He’s on campus now. (just had to throw that in there, please don’t throw rocks at me)
putting rock down now…lol..
Thanks Wilson. LOL
Well I wanted to say don’t count them until they get in a game. But some of the folks here have the patience of a hyperactive squirrel on Red Bull. I figured they had no frame of reference to the concept of waiting that long.
ROTFLOL!
Me too.
Me too, but only for the “don’t quote me” portion.
whatever you do don’t go to the texas TFB page. Its not fun to read.
Why would I?
guess YOU wouldn’t. but i don’t know, only to get some details about our sworn enemy and the class they are putting together/stealing from us
I’ve barely got time for my friends here, much less every other team in America.
Um, OK
Who’d they steal? I don’t go there either. That color hurts my eyes.
Yep. I hate it so much.
It’s comical how consumed some are with recruiting rankings 2 weeks before NSD. If you don’t think Kelly and a couple other studs are coming here and this class is done then you’re nuts. We’ll close strong and move up considerably in the rankings.
I like your optimism. However, I reserve the right to go ballistic if we have a lower star ranking than last year.
Take another drink Hunter lol!
I only drink on weekends for the most part. But there is no reason to have a worse class than last year except in total number of commits agreed?
The problem is the ranking is based on total number of commits. You can have higher rated players but a smaller class can give you a lower rating.
I know. I guess that sums up the weakness of the outlets. I mean, when USC was on probation, they had 18 one year, but 4 of them were 5 star and the rest 4 star. But they were ranked down. Stupid.
Last year, we were at 3.58 8th best. The same Rivals has us at 3.44. So I think we’ll surpass last year. But still worried at this point.
I can go on for days with the problems with the rating system. The thing to look at is where are our greatest needs in the next couple of years. How well are we doing in those areas? And keep in mind that very few of these players will impact next year, this is all two and three year down the road stuff.
True. But remember Bama had freshmen that impacted the team in a positive way.
And so did we, but most of them didn’t. If most of your true freshmen are playing you have really screwed up over the last four years.
And also look at it this way….USC had the top recruiting class last year….and they went 8-6. Just a little perspective.
of course playing 6-8 true frosh fulltime had nothing to do with the record… of course not.
I can only think of 2. Iman and the red head kid. Both were impact players.
I can only think of 2. Iman and the red head kid. Both were impact players.
Well we will have a smaller class than last year last year was like 27 kids and this year will be 20-22 so 5 kids less, plus Murray doesn’t figure into the rankings and they don’t give much respect to JUCO players. Like I said the other day the playoffs can help this class but more likely to help the 2017 class
Go ahead now, then if we end up higher you won’t have missed your chance.
NSD not that far away. I am hoping for the best. Either way, I expect to be Big 12 champs next year and get into the playoffs.
OU will blow out Houston & Ohio St. OU will have 6 personal foul calls against Texsa , Charlie Morals Skrong will start growing hair after he see’s the halftime time score OU 56 UT 0 .
I see it. They will not run that weak ass QB read option on us next year. Nobody will. What a tough schedule!
at least you dream BIG !
I would expect nothing less bro
I remember the same thing last year, people were losing their mind, with the 8-5 season we had, it was like OU closed the football program and we will get any one to come play for us. I happened to remember mentioning that we still have Bob, the doubters ofcourse had their reasons. And with that season, we ended up landing Hulk, Dahu, Miller, Stephens, Haughton, McKinney and finally thanks to dumb sexaT policies Lampkin.
I will NOT doubt for a minute that we will land a top 15 class. We are the Big12 champs, few players away from a NC.
Btw, losing Daniels is NOT the end of the world. If I can recall, the same thing happ with losing Justin Manning to A&M and people were ready to run Bob out of office, and what has Manning done? Romar and Walker on the other hand have shown us that recruiting is not the END of the process, it is just the beginning.
What I don’t get about the whole thing is that, after finishing 11-2, some can’t seem to recognize we are headed in the right direction. Are we there yet? No, but we are on the right track. We just need to let the good new assistants we have do their thing.
TFB is beginning to identify as “Thanks For Bleakness”
Exactly. Never any optimistic news. I hate f texass.
I don’t understand this late allure to Texsa.
OU is the superior program.
Do you want to win and be relevant in December?
Do you want to be drafted?
We have more players drafted and we Win. Done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkhX5W7JoWI
Bigger campus. Last year, they couldn’t get any DL players, so there will be starting spots available sooner than at OU. Strong says they have more Black coaches than OU.
The allure to Texas is Texas. Make Texas proud yada yada. It’s the race card no one is mentioning.
I still can’t believe Strong said that.
Edit: I don’t want to believe…
OU freaking stood up against racism last year, it was national news! It jelled the team. WTF?
I can but I don’t think it was as devious as most. I think he was just stating facts and trying to appeal to families of young black men.
Speaking of which still never saw a true quote anywhere. Anyone have a link?
But I can’t imagine what would have been said if a White coach said to a White recruit “don’t go to texsa because their coaching staff is 80% Black.”
I could. It would be huge news and he’d probably have to resign. But I don’t think that is what Strong said.
I can…………the guy would be fired immediately and Boren would close the coaches office for a week or two.
They have more black coaches okay. They have 71% OU 40%…of course they have 4 more than we do.
this perpetuates a toxic dialog and it’s based on hearsay
And there aren’t enough black head coaches, movies or actors recognized by the academy. The race card is soooooooooo played. Last time I checked we have a black president.
Can someone remind me of the quote being attributed to Strong? I’m not sure society has a problem with a coach selling his program in this regard (or using the “race card” as some have termed it). I would assume that he was trying to make a point that the UT staff is more relatable to the player on the basis of race. Not saying I agree, but this is fairly typical and often promoted in corporate america. Many of the top corp america companies openly admit that race demographics are a critical factor when they are selecting service providers and employees. Actually, some are even willing to admit that they exclude certain service providers if they are “too white.” And, I’m quite certain that they use favorable racial demographics to lure other minority candidates. Again, I’m not taking a position on it either way; just wanted to say that I’m not sure society really has a problem with this type of recruiting tactic.
Barry Switzer
I have a problem with the tactic. It’s racist. That said, I’m not too concerned about it. John Blake’s race didn’t help him recruit at OU otherwise he would still be coaching here. It didn’t help at Nebraska, and it didn’t help at UNC until he started funneling money to players for Gary Wichard. Strong is on his way out after another substandard year at UT. If Daniels bases his decision on race, then he will be making a decision for the wrong reason and he’ll be disappointed in a year from now when they hire someone else and it could very well be a person of a different race. If that’s what he wants, so be it. I’m more than happy for OU to recruit a 2* Cali player that can run circles around Daniels.
I would also be happy to have a 2* player “that can run circles around Danies.” The problem is that finding those diamonds in the rough is very difficult. I understand your point; I’m just pointing out that this type of tactic is done openly (and promoted) in corporate America and seemingly accepted.
Both OU & Nebraska –as well as KST–hired guys who were so inept as HC’s the schools could not defend them, be it White or Black…Had Blake been as good a coach as he was a recruiter, he would have been in Norman till the day he decided to leave…
Why don’t you want to believe it ? Strong faces no censures or repercussions …That was why Texas hired him in the 1st place…to be more attractive to inner city prospects in Dallas & Houston. Texas said as much at the time. They wanted somebody who could relate to those youths ( after seeing the early success by Sumlin ) ….that is why overtures were made to Shaw at Stanford, Franklin at PSU, and Strong at Louisville. Those were the only three UT looked at after Saban said NO……….
Perhaps they think they won’t be redshirted.
Get to sit on the bench and watch your team lose.
Then play and lose
Get benched for younger talent and watch your team lose.
Sounds for a terrible NCAA career.
Texas outs guys in the NFL too, but definitely not like they used to. But I just can’t believe anyone would want to play against a team that wins as much as SMU for 3-5 years while trying to prepare for the NFL. Gross.
Is Anthony fogle just shooting the bull on the radio or did Daniels mom really not meet with stoops during the in home visit?
If Chuck pulled the race card on his parents…..that’s just….
http://45.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2roiqsWCr1qjemo2o1_250.gif
Switzer made himself famous with the race card. It’s called pandering.
But Switzer also won…….alot. Chuck and Texsa sucks.
Well there could be a lot of reasons why a mother does not sit in on the conversation. What are the implications? Because BS is White?
I heard she was skyping with Bill Cosby during Bob’s in home.
You should work for buzzfeed or something. You’re pretty good at salacious posts.
I was just asking about the report. Not making an accusation.
Not sure what fogle is really saying. They started talking about the decommintment. Then on this rant about knowing he’s not landing a guy if his mom decides to go out when he’s supposed to have his visit, and the kid doesn’t ask him to reschedule.
Oh.
I’m not sure if he’s saying this happened with Daniels or if he’s just spitting some nonsense.
This is what happens when the quality of players you are recruiting improves. The sharks are out in full force to try and sway some of OU’s commitments. Reynolds definitely has his work cut out for him to put together a solid D-Line class but the only other area that is of concern in this cycle is WR. We’ve got some major targets scheduled for visits. The big thing will be making the most of the in-homes and official visits these next two weeks.
I think we need linebackers and O-lineman more than wide receivers. We have the talent here, just needs to be developed.
Id like to announce that I have just secured exclusive rights for prozac distrubution on TFB.
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Is there a coupon code?
Mention SD and you will be super-sized on your order – except Metz, he will get a triple order.
Hahahaha solid response.
Did you mean to say you hate him, aka HWMNBN, to get a super size order?
LOL!
yes TEXASSUKS1/21
I was given a bad coupon. Mine says TEXSASUCKS24/7.
Mix this with some good conversation and it’s much more relaxing.
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I don’t know what’s going on but somebody better clean this poop up before EasTex gets back. When he left, everything was on automatic. In a two weeks time every thread in the fabric is coming loose at the seam.
We need to clean this up, right now. If EasTex was to return I would have no choice but to point the finger at one of you. Now, I’ve made a call and since we can’t get ServPro until next week, I say we blame Metzker, in light his prank yesterday.
What say ye?
Where is eastex? I think he knows one poster. JJ?
Not sure.
Is ET your Daddy?
I’m not afraid to call him my Daddy. I can’t take the blame for this cluster of a mess.
this mess happens every year, nothing different
It comes undone every year. I’m trying to add a little comedy to the situation. We’ll get who we get.
What else do we have to do ALL offseason? We have to keep ourselves entertained? As Maximus said in the Gladiator “Are you not entertained?”
Down with Metzker!
As for my prank yesterday i clearly posted a large //////////////SSSSSSSSSSSS
Behind it. But I AM A BIG BOY and will take my punishment.
The sssss weren’t capitalized. Tell the truth metz.
Were you indicating sarcasm. I’m sorry Metzker. I thought you were shushing people, telling us to be quiet. 😉
All this time I’ve been dragging your name through the mud. That’s Golf’s fault.
LOL!
Oh sure, blame it on the guy who is working. I see how you are!
But the syntax for the sarcasm tag is /s. Yours did not parse correctly so some of the readers didn’t get it.
I will parse better from now on Bob.
Well it would be better if you were to go and syn no more.
Ok Got it.
Ignoscimus
#1 parserererer award goes to………..Mr. metzker (applause, applause)
You have my vote, sorry metz!
Despite the recent recruiting problems with kids in Texas, smart move on our part to refocus recruiting nationally. Fact is, there is so much competition in Texas, and the rise of Baylor, TCU, A&M, Houston, etc., can be attributed directly to their ability to keep in-state kids opposed to them going elsewhere. Short term pains typically translate into long term gains (except for the relationship between constipation and hemorrhoids), so let’s stay the course nationally and bring in kids who want to be here.
update added
Ah, 2017 – good. The rain on my 2016 is soaking through my raincoat.
Texas OP is blowing up, in the mean time we’re pulling our puds losing recruits. The loss of momentum right now is not kewl. Is it because everyone saw us get physically worked in the orange bowl?
In regards to Texas momentum I, myself and a couple others all agree we have to fight the stigma of not being Texans. Even their Dairy Queen commercials praise Texas.
That is true but in the past, with Stoops at his prime, he pulled Adrian Peterson and Rhett Bomar out of Texas in the same class. Its not impossible, we just have to change something. Don’t ask me what.
the fact that a 4 win UTerus team is in theses kid’s homes mauling us in recruiting right now it terrible!
Maybe we need to string more big bowl game wins such as Alabama a few years back. Getting trashed by Clemson two years in a row on the big stage is the last thing recruits see of us before signing day. I think they may think of that more than the fact that we got there. Just a thought.
True, you make it to the NC and lose a close game, not as damaging. You get beat by the same team twice in a row, that’s hard to swallow.
yeah well we can think the team in 14 for checking out a game early on that one. They might not have won in ’14 but there’s no way they should have lost by 34 points. And that’s not conjecture either. The Brainiacs are the ones telling us the team didn’t want to be there and had already checked out during bowl practices.
Which is hilarious considering Dairy Queen is an Illinois product that is based in the far north with a strong presence in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, etc. Yet DQ gets attributed to Texas for some odd reason.
It’s the Texas nativism highschool and college coaches are preaching down there.
OU USED to be able to walk in there and put up a fight. We need the King back with his big FUR COAT AND SMOKING ON THE DAMN SIDELINES WEARING A TEXAS SUCKS SHIRT. and we need to pull a tonya harding on charlie strongs knees.
I think we need to go back to the “we play for Championships” theme. That’s what got Peterson to come here. Nobody down in Texas is playing for Championships anytime soon.
I blame Google maps….recruits can google Norman now…
more truth to this than you think- my stock answer has always been “red dirt” when people ask the “why’s”
I love OK and you have to experience it to know and appreciate it but if you’re comparing apples to oranges…
Haha that’s funny I talk to people all the time that are at the school and they tell me…if OU wasnt here….I wouldn’t be either…
No offense to Norman, I always have a good time there, just comparatively to other destinations it’s hard to compete.
i think we’re agreeing- the “why’s” i referred to are the questions people ask like: Why aren’t recruit X and recruit Y more serious about OU? My answer: red dirt
RBear, have you ever gone to Athens, Georgia? It’s no bigger than Norman. It also has red dirt. Auburn doesn’t seem to offer much either.
Athens, You mean that really neat old university with the large campus?
point is, we’re competing for these kids based on a lot more than the football program, we don’t have an Oasis on the coast, we don’t have the culture of an Austin, we don’t have a lot to work with in that regard other than our tradition- kids add that stuff up
What should the OU coaches do to overcome that? Obviously, the brand is not enough. I’m dumfounded.
you do crap like oregon did with their uni’s, you get gimmicky. I do not want OU to ever resort to that though, i’d rather they stand on tradition any day
Gotta admit, Eugene is pretty nice, nice climate and 11/2 hrs to the coast. Plus the facilities built by PK are 2nd to none. Just sayin’…
but they lacked the tradition to pull the kids in so they got gimmicky to make it work
I hate to say this but maybe a move to the SEC is in order.
logical solution
Well…
…
crickets…
They also add up the wads of cash boosters slip in their pockets.
We don’t have an entire network ear f—— the kids 24/7 telling them our conference is the only one in the entire world that knows how to play football.
Okay – Oxford, MS.
some thing$ defy explanation
Explain Ole Miss to me then? I have been to Oxford, MS before and it is basically a deep south version of Stoolwater but their class is ridiculous.
Never been there, all I ever see on TV are the tailgate parties.
Best pic I could find – Fat girl dancing was too much.
No, OU doesn’t need Switzer to do what Stoops has been doing for his entire career. The game is different and even Saban, after 4 NC titles and plenty of bag men, loses guys and doesn’t win the hearts of all 5-stars
True. Bama is 11th per Rivals at this point.
eh No to Switzer coming back. Wed get the death penalty in no time
If Briles and ole mi$$ can get away with it he can too.
He didn’t last time…that is why he was Fired. Certain schools the Nazis like to mess with and OU is one of them..Sad but true
I’d rather chug bleach than give Switzer the keys to a Ferrari that took 10 years to fix in the shop after he crashed it into a tree with the trunk full of hookers and blow.
This is where we miss Bobby Jack Wright. He had tons of connections in Texas HS.
Not a bad thought…especially a few years back… Maybe a young BJ Wright 2.1. Look at what OU has done w/ Viney and Cali recruits.
I don’t think that was true anymore the last few years regarding BJW hence his retirement.
Well, Texas will win 4-5 games next season and lose their head coach. Then another 2-3 rebuilding years. They need all the new commits they can get…
and in the mean time we’ll be stuck with filler recruits with enough to win this piss poor conference but never enough to get over the hump. texass has time to rebuild, we aren’t doing anything.
Yet somehow OU made it to the final 4 this season with the same strategy.
and got worked by a team who is getting those recruits that we now can’t seem to hang on to.
Got worked? They weren’t even supposed to be as good as they’ll be next season, but sure, you use that “got worked” argument if it makes you feel better.
it’s this OP’s fault man. Don’t blame me, I’m just over reacting. I do it all the time, you’ll come to appreciate it.
Texas has been rebuilding since 09
So……….in a nut shell Texsa OP blows???
Im glad TFB #2 is getting alot of talk…I feel bad when K and Alex are the only posters on there. But we all know there’s only ONE TFB!
K is still a turn coat.
We need to categorize our updates when announced:
BOOM Update Added
Positive Update Added
Update Added
There’s an Update
and
You may not want to read this Update…go to Daily News and watch the videos for a little while.
I second that idea!
Maybe color coded… Shades of crimson or black… or maybe a pic of SD’s avatar if it’s really, really bad.
? This one for bad and many of them for SD bad.
Update added:
Downdate
lol had to read that twice…
Better than me… 3 times, ha.
you forgot to add : pick the date for decommitment—-
..Don’t forget your shirt.
Love this idea
Dam 2 hour meeting and im 300 comments behind.
don’t get your hopes up
But we mentioned you more than once…:) But then that “other guy” got mentioned some too…you…know….him….
don’t read it, you’ll turn into a cutter.
Sam did it…
I agree with hOUligan! It was Sam’s fault!
I appreciate the support, friend. LOL!
Lol. I’ve got your back…just don’t turn around.
I dub thee Brutus.
Uh, what may or what may not have been suggested may or may not be true. I didn’t do it. As you read for yourself, involving a comment about you, please ponder this: Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes?
SEE!!!! It was 100% ALL Sam’s fault!
Hey Sam, how you doin’? LOL
I think I need to go back to work. Otherwise, I’m good.
I do too!
Hmm…the old ‘the smeller’ s the feller’ ??
Let us not all forget Texas begged and won the OC from the University of Tulsa, all of which are from the Briles clan. The effect of Briles stank is growing.
Everybody just chill out and have faith in our coaches. We just won the Big 12 and went to the playoffs, enjoy the ride!
I know its been discussed before but it is utterly mind blowing that a Texas team that has put together one of the worst 3 year periods in program history can come in and raid Oklahoma for pretty much any in state recruit they want. These kids have literally seen 2 Texas’ conference championships their entire lives..
I’m going blank…who have they raided from Oklahoma
Delance, Daniels, and (potentially) Cobb from this class alone?
Those guys are all from Texas so I wouldn’t say they raided them. You made it sound like they raided them from our state…guess you meant our verbals
Yep.
Last time I looked Cobb was committed to OU and Daniels is uncommitted.
Might be a little overreaction. A mind is a terrible thing to waste on the decisions of 17 year old kids. OU will be OK in the end.
where is SoonerLove when you need him? might as well pile on right???
By Monday, Amani Bledsoe and Kapri Doucet will be Sooners, Caleb Kelly is going to sign with OU on Feb 3, OU always closes out strong in recruiting, AND in 2017 OU has the potential to have a top 5 class. It’s not all doom and gloom in Sooner nation!
too early to say about 2017. Remember Jean Delance? we all thought this class would be great.
At this time last year, we had one commit in Jean Delance. This year, we have 4. In addition, there are numerous stars that are very high on OU in the 2017 class.
I’ll abide it. An Amani Bledsoe sized BOOM w/ a Denzel is just what the Doctor ordered. OU in more need of edge players than inside on DL.
don’t forget Jauan
Jauan-uh include him, for sure.
Morris looks explosive…but who the heck is that QB throwing the rock?…looks pretty accurate…nice ball placement…
Everyone keeps piling on the Charlie Strong race card thing without a quote. This all started with a paraphrased quote from Landthieves. I blame you Esco for co-signing. Does anyone have a link?
To the quote, not Landthieves. No thanks.
For the record, I don’t think this reason was why Daniels de-committed. He just wanted to play elsewhere in the end.
But Daniels was quoted in a Rivals article as saying: “They said the team was 80-percent black athletes so if they’re 80-percent black athletes why not have 80-percent black coaches…”
So when Charlie Strong recruits black players he opens with a prose. I don’t see the negative recruiting. I see Charlie selling his only song and dance. What else could he say that Stoops couldn’t?
Come to Texas win now? No. Start Now? Probably not.
It’s not negative recruiting, but you didn’t mention negative recruiting in your original post, you asked where the race card stuff was coming from and he just provided you the exact quote. Here’s your link you needed so bad to prove it happened, which you won’t be able to read which is why the link was never provided https://n.rivals.com/news/chris-daniels-recaps-busy-sunday
You can if you pay which I’m not worried about to get the truth.
I never asked where it was coming from, just the quote.
l feel like after this line he probably flips a poster board or pushes next on his power point display and has pictures of himself with other black people like he is trying to prove himself.
All honesty, we should be done worrying what a decomitt chooses to do from here on out. Sour grapes? Maybe, but how does that affect us if he ends up playing for others? My point is we move on. Focus on the kids that really want to be here…not the shoulda coulda types. That applies to anyone we end up losing. OU is bigger than any one person and we were close this year, even without a slew of 5 stars…just my .02
excellent post I concur!
We’re going to have to coach’em up.
Maybe even coach ’em up!
I’m going back to work. Too much time on here today. I have to take a two hour LMS course on respect in the workplace.
Just put Aretha on the jukebox and she’ll tell you all you need to know.
Reduced to three minutes.
I’m all alone in my office today, trying to get all my quarterly/yearly tax documents done. UGH! I need the reprieve from time to time, so I will only say this ONE TIME Sam, sorry, didn’t mean to pick on you. (You’d probably better screen shot that one so you have proof I know how to spell sorry)
No worries, my friend. I know you’re having fun. I make it a point to laugh at my mistakes, when I can. I don’t like to take myself too seriously.
I’m the same way. If you cannot laugh at yourself, your life might be a long boring bliss of bleakness.
Well if you hear the rest of us laughing, remember we aren’t laughing with you we are laughing at you.
Will do.
I always try to be an encouragement.
I see. I will encourage you some day.
Okay Sam – Bob loves these so send him this one when you “encourage” him.
I love despair.com. I work for a gov contractor and we have stupid posters everywhere. I would put up some here, but I am pretty sure that if my management got it I would be in trouble.
Yeah, they are wonderfully sarcastic. I guess I should use some of them responding to SD, but that might be redundant.
This one is me:
R E S P E C T
R E S P E C T
No worries, my friend. I know you’re having fun. I make it a point to laugh at my mistakes, when I can. I don’t like to take myself too seriously.
You show great respect on TFB – that should be plenty. I will write you a note to get out of class.
I will await the e-mail.
I will await the e-mail.
I just hope OU doesn’t start losing recruits to a 5-7 Texass team
Given Norvell’s general success at evaluating talent, maybe we should let Texas have the ones they want.
are you here all week?
I vote this for Post of the Day.
Good point B.E.
KJ Young makes me cri every tiem.
I think Metoyer was just a jack off.. pun intended
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Except Cobb is a CB, not a WR.
Bob, you wisdom shines yet again
i get more and more nervous when i see update lol
After a quick view on some other sites:
A&M fans are more worried than we are
Texas fans think every 4* and 5* they offered is committing to them or flipping to them this weekend
Michigan fans are saying WTF every few hours
Why would Michigan fans be worried? Their HC likes to Netflix and Chill, “literally”.
With his recruits no less!
Ok, what did I miss here?
There was some story about him firing up netflix and chilling with one of his recruits on Foxnews this week.
wow, what a cool guy- and what a story, whew!
There was some story about him firing up netflix and chilling with one of his recruits on Foxnews this week.
Ok, what did I miss here?
I don’t think Michigan fans are worried, just confused. A long time 4* get his offered pulled 2 weeks from NSD, another decommits, and a 3rd on the verge of flipping to ND.
I actually like Harbaugh, not as a role model just the way he gets things done.
I agree with that……harbaugh, Meyer, Saban——-they get results…
Who wouldnt want to play with a coach that wins championships or nfl experience… its a given to me
………………………
Are you speaking “weasel” or “ferret”?
Oh look Stephen….your ball rolled into the middle of the street.
SD just agreed with you. how does that make you feel as a person?
Sad. Very very sad. A little worried as well.
He shouldn’t feel too good about it because it means he wrong.
He shouldn’t feel too good about it because it means he wrong.
Id take a shower if that happened to me.
really ? Who of note has Michigan lost ?
what? they didn’t tell you?
guess hes out of the loop
Erik Swenson had his offer pulled, he is a 4* OL
Kiante Enis 3* RB decommited
Nate Johnson 3* WR is considering flipping
Erik Swenson had his offer pulled, he is a 4* OL
Kiante Enis 3* RB decommited
Nate Johnson 3* WR is considering flipping
jordan elliot 4* will flip to texas
Missed that one. He is visiting them this weekend.
jordan elliot 4* will flip to texas
really ? Who of note has Michigan lost ?
yea, this is from a UT guy over there named “Brown stank on my hang down” or something like that:
Roger Klarvin, a writer on A&M’s secrant.com board, said the following: “Jones, McCullough, Daniels and Cuffee are all going to Texas. It’s all but a done deal. Sounds like Hudson is too.
They are going to have a legendary NSD coup.”
I love the PJ Blue visit. Brig em’ all in. Imagine that….Kish doing work!
I got laughed at on here when i said humphrey was a 4.2 kid back when he committed. He ran a 4.24 and 4.27 at 2 separate texas satellite camps between junior and senior years.
Tried telling you guys…..
He tweeted 4.28 is his best, so your 4.24 and 4.27 are still inaccurate. All kidding aside, this is the type of speed that CAN NOT be taught. Hope he is a football player and can contribute.
DId he specify that it was his best EVER, or simply his best time so far at OU?
Because here is the article showing lower times. And it was a 4.25 and 4.27, my bad, and it was same camp, on different days. My memory isnt quite what it used to be =)
http://www.chron.com/neighborhood/bayarea/sports/article/Clear-Falls-Humphrey-drawing-scouts-focus-5307919.php
He posted, “Personal Best Today: 4.28 #OU DNA”
Interesting. Wonder if he just dosent consider those other 2 times valid or something.
Still, a 4.28 makes him probably the fastest player in CFB, at worst top 5.
Hope he can catch lol.
He posted, “Personal Best Today: 4.28 #OU DNA”
Might be his best official time, I know there is a process for these times to be accurate and verified.
Might be his best official time, I know there is a process for these times to be accurate and verified.
Somehow today on here reminds me of this:
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
Then your probably don’t understand the seriousness of the situation
With apologies to Rudyard Kipling
FWIW: Despite the ton of seemingly bad news! I have seen others report and suggest and speculate that OU is in a good way with a few recruits. It’s my understanding that Doucet, Beal, and Velus Jones are pretty much locks. And there is a feeling that Mark Jackson and Bryson Guirdy could all become OU commits, Kelly is still in their minds a 80% lock into OU but, as noted on here ND is a player. No news on Southall and most think we get Guirdy and Jackson so be it. Also the overall outlook is that Mayden will be a Sooner also. This is not including Moore and Williams both of who is believed to be Sooners. Bledsoe is very much a coin flip and Kongobo is perhaps a long shot. So with that in mind that is 8 possible commits so my concern is who else is leaving or being removed from the team. I still feel we close with any number of the kids above we are in good shape, also I think Daniels is between us and Texas but, pretty sure he will be a Longhorn but, none of you all will be surprised by that!
Agree with u – I’m a paid subscriber elsewhere and have the same “thoughts” as you
Agree with u – I’m a paid subscriber elsewhere and have the same “thoughts” as you
No offense, but it wasn’t long ago you were saying a bunch of other guys were “locks” that aren’t so anymore.
Well Kelly was a lock and somewhere along the way we dropped the ball same with Daniels. Moore hasn’t changed. Now there are guys that I felt where locks that I missed on. Bledsoe I still feel is an OU lean but again like I said before his momma wants him at KU like Jacskons dad wants him at TCU. Hard to beat a parent but, when you read a kids tweet and it seems he really likes your school you read into that more!
But again its hard to hold a kid to his word also!
Which is why you don’t call them a lock.
Mistakes where made and I am also quoting others my friend!
No offense, but it wasn’t long ago you were saying a bunch of other guys were “locks” that aren’t so anymore.
Like the positive post and know OU is going to pull in some of these guys. Thing is, can’t get them all and even if they all wanted to be Sooners, there just is not room. Watching film, I’m more impressed with Southall than Daniels or Guidry even though he plays on the edge, but that is a great possibility. Would love Jackson, too. Pick your best 5-7 of that group.
Kelly is a must get, Jones cause we need a WR, Guirdy Jackson and Bledsoe can never have too much DL depth, Moore and Williams cause like DL you can’t have too much OL depth and Mayden! IFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF we land those 8 people will forget about all this sky is falling bit and be like see I told you all it was going be ok!
Kelly is a must get, Jones cause we need a WR, Guirdy Jackson and Bledsoe can never have too much DL depth, Moore and Williams cause like DL you can’t have too much OL depth and Mayden! IFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF we land those 8 people will forget about all this sky is falling bit and be like see I told you all it was going be ok!
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OU of little faith!
Nice play Brien, but I think Bob is more a sarcastic realist – now little faith is SD all over the place.
I’m just tired of the negativity my friend! I get we get upset about not getting a certain kid but, we have always been just fine and we seem to find the right talent, 9 Big 12 championships is a great statement to that!
Some of us cope with the negative folks with humor – that’s all.
Some of us cope with the negative folks with humor – that’s all.
I’m just tired of the negativity my friend! I get we get upset about not getting a certain kid but, we have always been just fine and we seem to find the right talent, 9 Big 12 championships is a great statement to that!
OU of little faith!
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Get’em Bob!
Reminds me of the Summer. The grand kids come out and swim in the lake and if we see vultures I’ve taught them to say “We’re not dead yet.”
Reminds me of the Summer. The grand kids come out and swim in the lake and if we see vultures I’ve taught them to say “We’re not dead yet.”
Well, those buzzards are on an orange background, so there’s that.
Well, those buzzards are on an orange background, so there’s that.
Just an observation…sh@#t definitely attracts more flies than honey…lol
But he-who-must-not-be-named attracts the most.
That’s cause he is full of it!
School photo
Voldemort is here?
Daledemort*
Voldalemort is closer.
Just an observation…sh@#t definitely attracts more flies than honey…lol
Not much talk on this PJ Blue kid- who’s got the goods?
http://247sports.com/Player/PJ-Blue-59821
Just came back to check. Thank God! No updates!
You need to update your name to be “Fear the Update”
You need to update your name to be “Fear the Update”
Thats certainly an option
SD says we will sign 5 players – 3 have grade issues….that is all….
and the other 2 are ax murderers…
Good. We need some tough guys on the field.
and the other 2 are ax murderers…
12-2=10
Not being negative, but realistic here. Every time we don’t get a kid we want, it’s a “loss”. Some years we have better recruiting “records” than others. We just need a few more wins before the end.
Doesn’t mean we don’t get good athletes, and it seems nearly impossible to predict a player’s potential success with any reliability anyway. 2 star or 5 star, they all have unlimited potential at this point.
to get away from Downdates and back to Updates… enjoy this you turkeys!
https://youtu.be/q-H-sYlMt-A
Sounds REALLY expensive!
we should be using this money to buy recruits!
best rendering of the finished product I’ve seen, GolfLuvr13 is buying two season ticket for my wife and I, thank you in advance
LOL! Yeah right. Maybe for your wife and my wife.
Man, that is just pure sweetness.
Good story on Buddy:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14609771/oklahoma-buddy-hield-worked-way-top
Indy_Sooner makes a great point down below about not worrying about the ones that got away and just focusing on the recruits we got and the ones that want to be here. Two examples. We were all disappointed when we lost out on Julio Jones who by all accounts is a great receiver in college and the pros but if he comes to OU then there is probably no way Ryan Broyles breaks the career receptions and yardage records at OU during that time period. Likewise everyone was also upset when we lost out on Laquon Treadwell to Ole Miss who himself has had a great college career and will likely be a first round draft pick but if he comes to OU the Sterling Shepard who posted better career numbers is not near as big a player for OU the past few years. Every year we miss out on a few and we get a few. Like almost every other team including your Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, Florida State types we hand out on average 150 to 175 offers and we get 20 to 25 recruits. The same can be said about next year and the year after! OU will be fine!
I don’t subscribe to this logic at all. Getting who you want is always better than not. The fact that it’s worked out okay twice doesn’t mean anything. Imagine if we had Shepherd AND Treadwell. That would’ve been better.
Doobie is trying to bring some +++ to the currently morbid TFB group. I understand his motive, but BOTH at once is better.
Perine & Mixon and Marshal & Calmus come to mind.
I’ll bite…Mav you are right, and Doobie is not wrong. Both thought patterns are correct to a degree and I for one could side with either (hopefully not sounding like a politician). I would happen to like to have it all, Mav says we need to gett all the players we want. YES, let’s do. Doobie says, lets get the players who inevitably want to be here, again YES, loyalty, character, motivation plays out to make a better team player. I’ll say, let’s go after the best talent available, somehow make them see that this is the best choice for them, and coach them up better than any of the other conference schools, and don’t forget to kick some (SEC BIG, PAC, ACC) a$$, every other chance we get.
I think you missed the whole point! No where did I saw we should go after elite players or try make it seem logical to pass over any recruit. Sure it would be great to have them all! Sign 15 – 5 * players a year. That would be great, but there would be a 16th, and 17th and 18th that we missed out on. Don’t worry about the ones we miss. We will get who we get and then it is up to the Coaches to make it work and up to us as fans to be supportive. No use crying over the fish that got away when you bring home a stringer full of fish!
What’s the difference in this and saying don’t worry about the games we lose, just the ones we win are important?
First and foremost I don’t worry about the games we loose! Learn from them and move on! Secondly to are not even to the same. A recruit has the choice of 120 FBS schools to attend.There are only 2 outcomes in a game, Win or Loose! With a recruit 10,000 things you an not control determines were a recruit may want to play football. You tell him why you would like to have him, how he can help your team, how you can help him become a NFL player but in the end he makes the choice based on were his girlfriend is going, were his great uncle Billy Bob went, where his best friend since kindergarten is going, and so on and so forth! There are 31 – 5* players this year. You can’t build a team out of just those guys because you can never get enough. Alabama has won 4 out of the last 6 championships and they have 1 – 5* commit the same amount as Houston who has never won anything, Florida, Georgia and Auburn all who Alabama beat last year. Ole Miss has 2 despite being beat by Bama also. Clemson who lost the championship to Bama has 3 – 5* guys but if I had to bet all my money today on a team to get back to the playoffs next year, I am beating on the team that won 4 of the last 6, not the team that got the most 5* players. Again you seem to be missing my point recruiting is crazy it always has been and it always will be. I want the best players we can get from anywhere in the country that we can get them. Recruits(i.e. 17 or 18 year old kids) however, are always going to change their mind. It is natural to not have a clear view of your future at that age. All I am saying is OU will be fine with whoever they get. Even if on the outside it doesn’t appear to be that great a player. Charles Walker was a 2* or 3* recruit but was our most disruptive DL last year.
“OU will be fine with whoever they get.”
First, none of us want OU to just be fine… And no. Just no. What you are saying makes no sense.
It matters who you get. Plain and simple.
You acting about as dumb a bag of hammers! I said multiple times OU needs to get the best players available to them each and every year, but I guess you are caught in a Stephen Dale loop of gloom and despair! I don’t need you to agree and don’t care if you do but it is simple facts. You can’t get everybody you want! Maverick even lost Goose but the show went on and he turned out ok in the end! LOL! Move on your life cause I am moving on with mine.
Lol, yikes.
I hope you took that with the humor I intended, it’s hard to convey emotions in writing LOL!
Couldn’t have said it better…
downdate added
Thanks for playing along.
well played lol
Ya know….thanks and all but it really just doesn’t matter. Like a car crash, just had to look to see how bad it was.
were gonna lose everybody theyre all gonna flip just even forget one single player in the class.
I think kj hit it on the head as far as recruiting to the city of norman…. I think recruits like the school and coaches the town mayb not so much im a black man and im a big ou fan go to games and stuff and sometimes i dont get good vibes like mayb I shouldn’t be here type of looks… Now im not sayn all whites look at me crazy cuz they don’t but im just making the point… When the players r on the field there r loved… Outside of football no so much and those r facts… Take it how u want i got love for everbody boomersooner
that’s not a good thing and I’m sorry you feel those things. I’m an Okie, born and bred and was raised to NOT look down on anyone.
And i thank u for that and i want to make a point not all r like that… I will still go support the sooners regardless
I’m sorry Norman isn’t very comfortable to you. Are you from Oklahoma?
Muskogee ok
This is what is funny about our shared experience. As a black man I do not feel comfortable in your neck of the woods but enjoyed my time in Norman.
I can understand its a lot of non sense going on down there
This might be anecdotal, but I can’t imagine that Norman is as bad as anywhere in the SEC for racism.
Tru but the sec wins so much and send so many players into the draft kids will over look it as with ou not so much
OU’s history of sending players to the NFL is on par with any in the SEC
But that’s history meaning years ago we talkn right now and moving forward the truth is the big 12 ou included isnt doing wat it use to do in the past
Last year we had a bunch of draft picks. I don’t think it’s that.
How many signed??? Don’t include the ones that were undrafted versus how ou whole team both sides were getting drafted high in the draft
That’s on the athlete. You were brought to the table. Eat.
Thats tru but u can only coach them up so much which is wAt mike stoops was sayn had to get some higher quality talent in here
True but OU puts players in the league. Not used to, still do.
Thats true
Hell, I get those looks from every ethnicity out there. You would think I just fell to earth from a far, far away galaxy or something.
Im not sayn that only happens to black just putn it out there
All you can do is take it with a grain of salt. Because Haters are gonna hate.
Tru
Oh and almost forgot. Have not seen you before. Welcome aboard!!!!
Thanks i been around just dont comment to much
I lurked about a year before becoming a TFB Brethren.
Lol how long have u been a fan??? Me since 2005 lol
This is why you’re buying the SEC hype, you’ve missed most of the good stuff.
I know the history bro not as much as say a 50 plus yr fan but i know my ou history thats just when i start really really following them in high school i was focused on basketball nothing else
And i hate the sec but facts r facts and its time for ou to kick it up a notch that’s all
Since the beginning. But you know you have to test the water before you just jump in.
Lol yea yea
Sorry you feel that way. I would hope Norman has little of that. I’m from the 60s-70s and didn’t see that on OUr campus then (we had an African-American student president in 1970). I later went to grad school in Austin and it was almost confederate.
But thats wat i mean i think when u at the school it self u fine but the city of norman
Richard, thanks for stepping out there to make that statement. I think it is something worth talking about since the SAE thing and with the word out there that Charlie strong is selling “we have mostly black player so we should have mostly black coaches” that’s the rumor anyways. Do you feel this all over Oklahoma or just in Norman? I’m curious whether you feel those looks from all ages of folks or what. I’m 26 and grew up at a school pretty well diverse so I’ve never looked at a guy any color and thought “what’s he doing here, is he lost” I know older generations, my dad for example were brought up totally different so my hope is you get less of those looks from younger people, as a sign that times are indeed changing.
I’ve got to think its similar most places in the south and Texas.
Im 28 from Muskogee.., as far as goin up there i never felt that in school but outside of school it were certain sides of town that i guess u can say were alot of blk population and other a larger white population so it s not just norman but its were recruits have to spend 4 years of their lives
Nice to have another person from the Gee around. Hopefully we continue to see progress and change in our city and in Norman as well.
Yep yep
Really don’t want to but it’s a place we have to visit. IMO, the SAE thing uncovered the bigger problem when Striker went on his rant. The same *bitches* that slap us on the back and invite us to their frat house but when we get there it’s a different vibe. I cannot imagine it is much different in Austin or Oxford, though.
I’m sorry you feel those things. I always hoped that Norman or anywhere in Oklahoma was better than the places in the south.
No need to apologize u didn’t do anything and its not just norman just used there cuz of ou
Since I’m not black, I can’t really comment much. I don’t know what the percentage is but I do know there are many more blacks as well as other cultures living in Norman than in the past. I think Norman is one of the best cities in the state in which to live.
Yea its growing
What in the HEdoublehockeysticks is going on in here. As I have told you all time and time again, No matter what “It is and always will be a great day to be a SOONER” So step away from the ledge, regain your focus and relax.
Solid pep talk. Always good to be a Sooner
You are way too wise to be a young dude!!!
Per Mr. Gundy I’m a man I’m 40!!!!!!
Still think you’re wise for a young dude and hope your hairdo doesn’t remind me of a porcupine on steroids.
Thanks Rick and no porcupine here. I guess it is from paying attention, taking notes and waiting on the test later.
Don’t hang around on this end of the board, we just got another big BOOM!!
I just scrolled up and seen it. BOOM!!!!
Amen 47!
I think we all just need to refocus and go back to bitching about kids.
What get’s me is that we had a pretty good season. Won the Big 12 championship, and one of 4 teams to make it to the playoffs. Pretty dang impressive. But the past couple of days it looked like we just got beat in the Cactus bowl and had a terrible season.
Exactly..school and coaches are getting better at selling themselves with gimmicks and rhetoric…OU sticks to the basics which is awesome in my opinion. But kids culture is changing. Back in the day it was OU is COOL. Now its OU is cool BUT…I think it’s just a sign of the times.
Yep. And we aren’t super close to anywhere “fun”. At least we haven’t fallen like Nebraska has. At one time a historical power.
This is true.
Winning is Cool.
Yes it is.
So are Asian girls and bags of cash…see U¢LA and Ole MI$$
Dont forget USC where they’re basically pro players. Those days may be over though with the Lambs coming back to LA.
USC still recruits very well. Maybe not Pete Carroll well but still pretty good.
have to change with the times…bob did it with coaches after a bad 2014 and it seems to have worked(at least this season) time to do it with recruiting too
One thing is for sure, you can’t fake being cool. If for whatever reason we aren’t “it” right now, there’s not much aside from winning we can do to change that.
Hilary Clinton tried to “dab” and almost killed cool forever.
Bravo!
I’ll take heart any day over talent. I want great talent, but I’d rather have a 3 star player that “WANTS” to don the Crimson & Cream and is a team player. That’s all we had last time we won it all…a few exceptional players like Calmus and Roy, but mostly just gritty guys that fought together and were in it for the team and not into self-promotions like some 5 star prima donnas are. I hate to lose kids, but if they choose to go elsewhere, my getting upset about it won’t change a thang, and I refuse to live in anxiety of hoping a 17 year old don’t change his mind. I do however wish that kids would not be so quick to verbal if they’re still planning on taking OV’s. Slow your roll, take all your visits, then decide where the best place is for you. It really is a hit on your character to give your word and then simply back out of it. Our “yes” should mean yes, and our “no” should mean no. Boomer!
I agree, but why do people assume a 5 star is automatically a primma donna, and every three star has heart and wants it more? Kids are kids, I doubt their attitudes are that much different between star rating.
Not all, but many. A lot of 5 stars seem to have an entitlement attitude while many of the 3 star kids seems like they have to earn it more and prove themselves. I try to stay away from absolutes. There are always exceptions. There are some great 5 star kids who have great heart and work hard. Likewise there are many 3 stars that have little humility and think they are the best thing since sliced bread.
Maybe we label the 5 stars and hold them to a higher standard? I really don’t think a 5 star has much more of a chance to be a “bad egg” as anyone else.
Maybe so, but most people can’t handle excessive fame and praise. Pride naturally rises up the more the ego is fed, and that often makes it hard to not begin thinking you’re better than everyone around you. I do agree with you, we as fans, and media these days, certainly do our part to put the higher standards on them as well.
At 17 I was having a hard time deciding which girl to date. It was not an accepted practice locally to date Girl1 one week, and date Girl2 next week. A lovely young lady’s father would be knocking at your door in the day if that happened. I do agree with you about the verbal thing, but it has always been that way, unless someone changes things to an early signing period it will probably stay that way.
lol….It does seem to me like this year there have more de-committments than I can remember, not OU, but nation wide. I may be mistaken though.
I haven’t counted, I have no idea what the statistics are. I just know nothing is solid until NSD, and every year I can remember, players have decommitted. I think the social media thing might drive some of this stuff into the fore front quicker simply because it’s moving at the speed of light, where 30 years ago, if a guy decommitted, it might not be public knowledge for days or weeks. The point is, it’s always been there.
True…good point…social media has definitely changed the ball game a bit.
update added
I saw that an update had been added and my first thought was “so help me if this is more bad news”…….. you’ve put fear into us
Haha this is the correct usage for:
“Update Added”
I think the rise of social media and instant information is doing a real number on exploiting the kid’s egos, and at the same time providing an emotional roller coaster for fans who pin their hopes on the momentary whims of 17 yr olds. It is like the fan base is living inside the emotional decisions of these young men. It would be wise to take a longer term perspective and let the dust settle before declaring recruiting disasters. Plus, I just naturally can’t stand drama so I tend to avoid all of this anyway. This instant information/connected society is causing unnecessary stress. Too much information, and especially impermanent information from fickle 17 yr olds.
And yet, we all know that these still developing little brats are the life blood of our program. As much as we hate the drama, it is very important.
None of it means anything until the LOI’s are signed, sealed, and delivered.
Well this certainly explains some things looking back on Jefferson’s career as a Sooner.
“In the Big XII, we didn’t really gameplan or anything,” Jefferson said. “Read the card, and that’s the defense we’ll be playing. My mental focus was basically to just go out there and play what’s called. At this level, you can’t do that.”
http://www.azcardinals.com/news-and-events/article-2/Tony-Jeffersons-Journey-Has-Been-No-Joke/6b005a46-304b-404f-a885-dd10337cdbe8
Smdh…..
Ugh. I hope that’s more of an indictment of TJ and not BS.
NFL is all day/week preparation.
You have no class, homework, projects etc.
I think he was just meaning the mental aspect of preparation is on another level in NFL and he’s right.
College kids have to go to school. There is only so much you can throw at these kids with limited time you have with them. That’s the reason why the air raid is so successful bc it is simple
What did John and Dede run??
Heard John ran a 4.28, not sure about Dede
4.4 is what I believe.
Wow. If true
gotta be Bledsoe
https://twitter.com/OU_CoachStoops/status/690285620363591681
oooohhh snap.
That’s much welcomed news if true.
Hopefully this helps gets our momentum back.
Who said we ever lost it?
Can this be? Two pieces of sky hit me today besides the soothsayer SD telling me to give up all hope.
Wait is this for a visit this weekend? Or is it a BOOM Update!
Boom watch for all 77 counties and Kansas.
Attention…..The Boom looms….
Bledsoe?
BOOOOOM bledsoe
Randy Withers @RandyWithersKC 1m1 minute ago
BREAKING: 4-star Lawrence (KS) DE Amani Bledsoe commits to #Oklahoma, choosing #Sooners over #KUFBall
@OU_CoachStoops
Another future Kansan draft pick headed to Soonerland! #785 #OUDNA #Sooners16 #BoomerSooner
4:31 PM – 21 Jan 2016
Metz!! If this is you and another joke….!!! /s
We have forgiven him – he has learned his lesson.
Hahaha well played, sir.
https://twitter.com/RandyWithersKC/status/690286621485355010?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Holy bat droppings, Robin!!!
Thanks Randy Withers, our guys are too busy posting updates on the Texas site
hahah that made me laugh
A Boom in our future from North of the Ok border…….
Randy Withers is a TFB lurker!
nah, he’s been tight w/ Bledsoe for his whole recruitment. only guy the kid really talks to.
Love the pic with Stoops and Strong sharing an UBER ride. Also BOOM … Hopefully Jordan’s right with Bledsoe!!!
BOOMdate added
Atta boy!!!
YES!
Welcome to the party
Nicely played!
@OU_CoachHill’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/OU_CoachHill/status/690289242497355776?s=09
Now that that’s out of the way……who is this kid?? /s
Bledsoe
Gymnast out of Kansas.
You and KJ are catching on to this sarcastic, childlike group that we’ve got brewing at TFB – 🙂
http://247sports.com/Player/Amani-Bledsoe-73748
https://twitter.com/amani_bledsoe/status/690288438885638145
Is the sky still falling? Hunter take a shot!!! Jordan you are the man. SDale go jump off a bridge. KJ a new recruit for you to keep us in the loop about. Mizuno44 you feel better? Rick what do you think? BOOMER SOONER #OUDNA!!!
Boom. I am not saying the sky is falling.
No I am just saying take a shot regardless lol I know you have been just as frustrated as I have been but, you seem to take my smarta$$ness well lol!
Right on brother!
I think we just got one of the top 10 best defensive ends in the nation (the Jayhawk fans are blasting him relentlessly on twitter, so S.D’s cracks are of no concern, if he wasn’t going to KU, then he definately will never go). 6-5 263, moves really well. Good get to replace Tapper in the future. This type of talent, might be able to start as a freshman. On OUr way to a superior class.
Yea I saw some of that! But I can see them getting mad he would have been easily their best player in this class without a doubt. They just get use to landing so many great basketball players they feel mad when a stud turns them down in football. He is a kid I had hoped along with Kelly that we needed in this class.
I think you had better get used to “gittin happy”.
Well I am always happy hence why I am annoying! I just really like these kids and think they have things we can teach them and feel they have the talent to help us!
Still growing? Maybe 270 playing weight or ? Him and Jon-Michael Terry looking good. Terry is an OLB though.
Yea but Terry could easily move to a DE if need be I feel that is why we have seen more offers to LB’s. No Jefferson and the possibility or plans to move JMT to DE, thus leaving BY as only true LB on the board!
well..but yes, thank you for checking
SMH!!!
kidding with you, calling people out was funny
Bet you are one of those guys in the gym that grunts alot…am I right?
Nope only lifting I do is my can of beer on Saturday nights. Oh I guess rec league basketball.
I love Tupai’s video. The kid is nasty. Would love to see him laying licks on people on Owen Field.
with his lateral movement, quickness in short space (at least as far I can tell), his explosiveness through the tackle and ball-hawking ability…would love to see him play ILB at OU..if we (they) could get him….
Prayers answered? Lol
Apparently Amani Bledsoe’s nickname is Moose and that just makes this commitment even more awesome. #MooseOnTheLoose
Watch his Hudl video and also explains why he throws up the Moose horns after a big play!
Alvin Mack wasn’t he the LB from the movie The Program?
Yes Sir! I’ve had the nickname since my FR yr of HSFB in ’05 lol.
Kill em all let the paramedics sort em out!
Lol…Deleted…Weak sauce…….
Man i swear ou got the best fan base and family look at them comments number today lol…
We love sooner football so much we can scare off a recruit if he not serious lol boom soom all day
Gotta feed the Big Red Machine
Yep yep
Amen to this. Lol
Definitely not bad at all for a Thursday….1000 and counting.
Not at all kj sign will b one remember im thinking lol
KJ are you privy to any info inside the program we need to know about? I know you have source, With holding information may be punishable by 2 rounds with super K.
Hahaha I only divulge what Jordan and K say is ok to divulge. j/k
Good to have you over here!
So….now I get it KJ is really a covert sock for j/k so that you can have some fun. Both K and Jordan can use the sock, leaving us in the dark, so they can have a fan persona. It’s all becoming clear now…
https://49.media.tumblr.com/3bf4d0e0f3c0ffaea367a6e1338332ea/tumblr_murs49DusG1sl4ryio1_250.gif
Interesting theory. What’s the significance of the fibonacci sequence though?
Watch out Richard or you’ll spend too much time on here like many of us 🙂
I kno right im suppose to b working smh lol
Long time reader first time poster. Just wanna say that you guys rock. TFB is the real deal. Although sometimes Mr. Jordan is negative on everything it seems like lol haha j. p Jordan. Crazy how recruiting works out. Hope Coach Stoops and Co. can bring in the best guys possible Boomer Freakin Sooner. p.s. I think I’m the first Mexican guy on here haha
not mexican but my wife is, and we live in guadalajara, where the temperature just happens to average 70 degrees year around.
Awesome now I don’t feel alone haha wish I could be in Mexico right now visiting my family lol. I am born and raised in OKC but man this weather sucks sometimes haha
For those counting the spots, back up to #27.
https://twitter.com/SoonerScoop/status/690295448842596352
Guys, Stephen Dale is reporting, “Armani will be the next one to flip from OU to a&m, horns, or nd. They all have in home visits scheduled. No way he stays with OU or the big 12 minus two league, and have also heard if SEC offers he is instantly gone.”
LOL!!! Not funny though!
Daryl, we may have to send Metzker to teach you not to pull this. It is part of his 12-step work after the infamous false OP.
My bad just had to vent man. Just needed to vent. I am frozen in New England with no Sooner vent bro. My bad
haha Daryl this is hilarious. I heard Stephen Dale still has visits to the Oklahoma City and Austin mental homes left before signing day. lol Stephen Dale is a fool
Your speaking of stevie not our new commit?
edited sooner
Okay.
chill out Mr. Tough guy
Nothing personal to you Mikey. Didn’t get the edit at first. Besides, if you are all over SD, you gotta’ be O K.
Same here brother. Anyone who roots for the Sooners and is against Satan AKA Stephen Dale, is my friend. Have a great day cush. Lol like that name by the way. haha.
It’s a character from an unpublished book by a friend.
Lol I prefer the cush with a K if you know what I mean hahaha
Better be!
so back to some bad news has anybody heard anything else about jerfferson?
Only that he is not going to end up in Norman. I have not heard anything official but some are saying that he had his offer pulled.
I was wondering if that was the case.
oh yeah because of something he did at school or whatever. i thought that was just some made up bologna
From what I’ve read, he is visiting Nebraska and will likely end up there. Pernell was considered to be an OLB in OU’s current scheme. This makes me wonder if they aren’t letting him pursue other opportunities while Stoops and Co. try to close out on guys like Mark Jackson, Max Tupai and PJ Blue along with the JuCo guys.
His scholly is pulled. Stoops just doesn’t make it a public matter unless it needs to be.
I figured that was the case with him. They are actively looking. I’m not going to worry about Cobb, he will either decommit or become one of next great DB’s at OUr school.
He actually can’t talk about recruits…the zip code thing is the closest they can get to mentioning someone.. Noway are they going so say Hit The Door 504 lol
I would laugh if they did. 🙂
Offer was pulled.
I feel like Jordan spent the entire day kicking me in the balls and then helped me up and offered me some cake just before I succumbed to my grisly fate.
does it make anyone feel better about kelly that he name dropped 2 sooners on twitter?
Doesn’t hurt my feelings.
Found this interesting….247 ranks the National Recruiter of the Year, and OU coaches are waaaaaaaaay down the list. Not sure what all they base it on, but I did expect Gundy to maybe be around top 50 or so.
would love someone to tell me why boulware is getting paid 270Gs to call fair catches and run punt safe that doesn’t even work….who has he brought in recruits wise?
Stadium progress & future…
https://twitter.com/ChanseSylvie/status/690308089816289280
Nice Chanse….NOW GET YOUR BUTT TO WORK!! We got a couple of titles to chase this year!
I don’t think I could like this young man any more than I do! Great SOONER HEART! Good luck Chanse – we are cheering for you!
I wish every player had his #OUDNA. He’s a keeper.
https://twitter.com/calebkkelly/status/690318965638172672
He’s doing a lot of hint dropping or trolling the hell out of us.
https://twitter.com/TyDarlington56/status/690320297451397120
The staff has doubled down on ND academics argument with Caleb Kelly..
chess match
I wanna see the “talked to the best RB in the NFL @adrianpeterson” tweet…
Who tweeted this?
Hey KJ, Jordan, Super K or somebody else in the know. Should we take it as a good sign that Coach Viney is still around the OU program, tweeting about recruits, and generally seeming as if nothing as changed? As far as we last heard his replacement was hired last week and he was done as a grad asst. the end of Dec! Hope this means they found him a permanent position!
I think there’s a good chance he’s taking over the QC job that was vacated recently.
I’m hoping but why wouldn’t they announce something? Not like that would be a bad thing.
I’m not sure but it seems like he’s sticking around. I’d be shocked if there’s a position job open after this year.
Even if they can’t get him in a position right now that allows him to recruit off campus, just keeping him will pay off.
I think he’s a couple years away from having a position job here. Unless some odd reason one of the coaches leave. For example if boulware leaves he may be the running backs coach. At some point I think the goal is for him to be the secondary coach but I don’t think cooks is going anywhere soon. Ryan aber from the dok thinks he will be here awhile.
Is that a upgrade from Grad asst. I mean is it a paying gig?
I would say upgrade and believe it to be a paying job but I don’t think it allows him to go out on the road as far as recruiting.
Anyone see that the NFL (Rex Ryan) hired the first ever full time female assistant coach? What a time to be alive. Hope she does well, they’ll probably make a movie on her one day.
She’s a special teams coach, maybe we can steal her some day. 🙂
Has any one heard from east Tex lately ?
No and I haven’t been overly concerned because I believe he said he was taking a break. If it goes a minute past signing day, I will fear the worst.
Thanks for the info didn’t remember he said he was going on break.
I just heard Neville ran a 4 7……at 320 lbs. That boy can move.
If you will look at this, you will set that it is physically impossible.
http://cdn1.cowbird.com/items/pages/2012/10/11/18/29/78466/10032_50770e800d6e03.26438884-big.jpg?q=20130525124032
You could write bigger for the old people. 🙂
Hold down the ctrl button and spin the mouse wheel. It will zoom in. I know this because I am an old guy who has to make things bigger sometimes.
Do you have a trick for a laptop touch pad? Hell, even my PC at the office hasn’t had a wheel in years. Do they still make those?
I was faster…….at a 180 lbs. 🙂
I can fall that fast.
Not surprised. That dudes film was pretty incredible for a guy that big.
You hear anything else regarding that DB who was rumored to be leaving. Please tell me its not one of Sunderland, Haughton, Mbanasor* or McKinney. I noticed that on Sunderland’s twitter he has no mention of being an OU player. Recently switched his twitter avi to a high school picture of him ballin. (recently had an OU pic). I may be just reading into it. lol sorry. too much time on my hands hahaha
Did we even go after Rashan Gary at all? I look at the list of schools he was interested in and we are not on there. I was just curious why we wouldn’t even be a player in a talent like his. That’s the kind of athlete OU doesn’t seem to sign anymore. We need the Tommy Harris type athletes to be competetive.
Michigan’s Jim Harbaugh showing his true colors — and they’re ugly
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/michigans-jim-harbaugh-showing-his-true-colors-and-theyre-ugly/ar-BBoxewm?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout
Sounds about right.
We’re in the process of doing that to Jefferson.
Looks like Velus is gonna stick with USC. Any way we offer Joshua Jacobs at WR?
Love the kid as a RB, but why doesn’t the kid have more offers? Must have grade issues or something…
Who on 247 is reporting this news? It doesn’t seem accurate based on jones Twitter feed.
What makes you say hes sticking with USC?
Being reported
Kinda makes sense after we heard nothing after the coaches in home visit from last night.
Anyone else seeing that the pukes are trying to flip kendall, any word on that?
Kendall?
Key, local NE OK kid who prev went to CSU I think
https://twitter.com/coleman_key/status/690336209453842432
Bringing out the girls I see
We never see our recruits posting pics with cheerleaders, maybe we have found the problem.
The NCAA suspended the Orange Pride girls for four years. Looks like the cheerleaders are picking up the slack.
Exactly what I was thinking. We’ve seen what they will do to animals, recruits probably get the full service. 🙂
If he stays all four years, that will be eight seasons of failure and disappointment.
They really need way better looking cheerleaders.
Played for BA in HS Bear, probably was being looked at by OSU in some regards before he signed with CSU!
Couldn’t recall if it was Owasso or BA
Yea BA he was a pretty decent QB. Think the Owasso QB was Cole or Gabe Newph or something like that!
They just picked up a commitment at qb.
ok good, thx.
Flip Kendall kinda late for that considering that Kendall enrolled already I could be mistaken!
I thought he had just signed financial paperwork, is he a mid year enrollee?
Yep hes here already
I thought he was but like I said could be mistaken. But mean he was on Twitter a few days ago telling Caleb Kelly just to make if official and get to OU!
Kendall isn’t going anywhere. He’s a Sooner.
I didn’t think so. So not sure where this info came from lol
Kendall had a great relationship with Riley while Riley was recruiting him at WKU. His relationship with Riley is why he’s coming to Oklahoma. I don’t think anybody can flip him. He is already taking control of the 2016 class on twitter.
That’s what I was thinking and he is as vocal as Sylvie is. Like I said below he was telling Caleb Kelly to hurry up and make it official. Heard Murray has been tweeting out to recruits also!
Yep! He’s all in.
Riley had a head start with Adams as well
Yep. I get those two turd programs confused. Edited and corrected. Thanks.
I saw it in the B/R newsfeed.
He’s already on campus. Seen a video of him on Du’Vonta Lampkins Periscope. Idk how that would be possible though. Who knows. Recruiting is so confusing lol
https://twitter.com/SuperK_TFB/status/690366658452529154
Just saw this a few minute’s ago and knew you would be all over it.
the whorns are trying to flip him as well. Hes projected as a guard right?
Prev committed to a&m then flipped to Baylor- recently at texsa for an extended OV… He’s an OT but who knows
I know hes a big ole boy, and highly rated. Would take in a heartbeat =)
indeed
700 comments? What the…..????
I’m seeing about 847, one of us has a bad counter.
OMG I’M SEEING 859 I THINK I’VE BEEN HACKED WHAT DO I DO
Now I am seeing 860. If you give me your credit card number, I think I can get you up to speed. 🙂
I can confirm the below statement of 847
Not unless you add yours, and now mine. It’s a never ending circle. 🙂
On this topic, I have always wondered why the main page count is always way off the actual count.
I see 855, speaking of 855, what was the 8:55 update I’m not seeing it.
I’m not seeing a new update either, also didn’t see indication of one.
I don’t know maybe it goes by milestones lol!
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