Open Post | Thursday, December 10th (UPDATE 8:22 pm)
Posted on: December 10, 2015
Image of Parnell Motley via 247sports.com
– Marcel Southall: Caught up with 2016 DT, Marcel Southall’s father this week to see where things stand with OU and Southall and when an announcement could be coming. Marcel’s father reiterated their interest in OU saying, “Everything (with OU) is looking real good…top to bottom they’ve been A1”. Southall recently took his official visit to OU which was his second visit.
Southall said the official visit was even better than the unofficial visit they took in the summer. To give you a sense of how positive that is, after the unofficial visit this past summer Southall told me OU was at or near the top because of the visit.
The family is really excited about the Sooners making it to the playoffs, “we are going to be watching to see when the dust settles if OU will be holding the trophy”. We also talked about how good OU could potentially be next year and Southall noted that based on the personnel he wouldn’t be surprised to see the Sooners win it, “back to back in the Big 12”.
Southall tells me that they will visit Oklahoma State this weekend. They planned on committing at the bowl game but it sounds like they’ve got a few more visits they’d like to take so they’re considering pushing the commitment date back close to February. Southall says they’d still like to visit Ole Miss and Florida to finish off their visits. – (Super K)
– Jackson Winrow: Back in mid-November I introduced our readers to an under-the-rader in-state 2016 WR named Jackson Winrow (Shawnee, OK). I’m so happy to report that he was offered by Vanderbilt last night. I spoke to his father, Randy yesterday and it was really heart warming to hear the overwhelming joy in his voice. Jackson is a kid who is so naturally good at sports that he really didn’t realize just how good he is and can be at football. This has really taken them by surprise. If you haven’t had a chance to look at his film, I recommend it. – (Super K)
– Weekend Visitors: We are still poking around trying to find out who all will be in Norman this weekend but as of now these are some of the expected visitors. We are told there will be more:
Mique Juarez (Torrance, CA) – OU recently did an in-home with Juarez and he is expected to visit this weekend. This one is going to be an uphill battle as most feel he will stay in state. But OU has had juice with the Cali kids for a while so if he makes it in for a visit, who knows what could happen.
Jack Jones (Long Beach, CA) – Another uphill battle here for a guy most think will stay in-state. But OU has an offense he’d probably prefer!
Parnell Motley (Washington D.C.) – Motley is a defensive back that Kerry Cooks has been recruiting for a while and despite picking up some prospects at the position, the Sooners still seem interested in Motley. He is currently committed to Maryland but they let go of the staff he committed to.
Tramonda Moore (Oklahoma City, OK) – Moore has been to Norman a lot, so coming again sure can’t be a bad thing.
– UPDATE (1:56 pm): Sooners miss out on one of their top remaining 2016 WR targets, Tyrie Cleveland.
IM STAYING HOME …. GO COOGS , I Officially Committed the university of Houston ‼️
— Tyrie Cleveland (@Tyrie_1) December 10, 2015
– UPDATE (4:26 pm):
Had A Great time #BoomerSooners pic.twitter.com/fpgm54VwwU
— xEMBx (@VainQueurCo) December 10, 2015
– UPDATE (8:22 pm): So much for that Jack Jones visit.
I'm not taking a visit to Oklahoma.
— Jack Jones🏄🏽♂️ (@presidentjacc) December 11, 2015
479 Comments
Nice. Momentum.
It’s my favorite part of yall’s open posts when very under the radar guys that y’all really like and give exposure to get their first offer to play collegiate football. Whether it’s OU or not, that is very very well done!
Couldn’t agree more.
I love how excite Super K gets. You would think he was this kids Coach or Uncle or something but he just gets that excited when kids get their shot!
You could almost see the glow coming off of him on twitter last night when he was talking about it.
He pulls for them regardless of what team they eventually choose. I think that’s one of the reasons they speak so freely with him. He’s a fan of college football and not someone trying to sell them on his favorite school.
Yup, some really awesome folks running this site.
I know Daniels and EMB make their announcements next week, but I’d love for OU to get another couple commitments soon! Wish Southall would just seal the deal already but I understand wanting to see other places before making such a big decision. Marcel is a great fit for a 3-4 DE.
Well if what Riley says is true we have a couple silent commits since we are turning guys away
I wish all these guys would commit as well but I guess I can’t blame them for taking 5 OV(free vacations). Probably the first time most of these kids get to travel that much and at 17 or 18 that would be a blast!
Well, there you have it!!!
https://twitter.com/NewsOKSports/status/675007936356179968
Hopefully we aren’t misinterpreting them. Keep an eye out for a double backwards somersault through a hoop while whistling the star spangled banner.
He’s 5/5 in his last 5 picks, so this is a good sign. /s
Dolphins are smart. I’ll take it.
Big football fans too, from what I hear. Did you know that they surround sharks and butt them to death? And that Orlando Brown is their favorite player?
Is Withrow ‘OU good” now that he has a viable D-1 offer to Vandy ??
By ur normal logic he is too good for OU since he is now “SEC good”.
The next thing for recruits and how they commit:
https://twitter.com/bleacherreport/status/675003876488056832
Could this be considered an impermissible benefit..? I mean, not every college kid has the opportunity to be featured in a professionally-produced video while announcing their commitment. Lol.
Guess it matters on who did it and paid for it but you are correct.
It is a bit over the top.
So, just like in the Dark Knight, he doesn’t find what he hoped for at his chosen destination.
With today’s technology, this could have been shot and edited by Daelin.
A little over the top but well done none the less.
Dude’s lucky he didn’t get shot running around Detroit like that.
I’m just not sure that trusting God to lead you wouldn’t have meant going to the University of Oklahoma! And I’m Catholic. Why wouldn’t God want what was best for him?
I’m just not sure that trusting God to lead you wouldn’t have meant going to the University of Oklahoma! And I’m Catholic. Why wouldn’t God want what was best for him?
Interesting SI has Baker as the top QB.
https://twitter.com/si_ncaafb/status/675006335017164801
Another AA for OU
Two more.
was it two or three…didnt sanchez get a second team by someone
As long as he isn’t on their cover.
I saw somewhere that Watson will be on the cover. True.
Second time this year, but the first one was just a regional cover.
Striker made 1st team as well. Honorable mentions went to Perine, Shep, Sanchez, and Tapper. I noticed Keyarris Garrett out of TU made honorable mention. I thought he deserved some AA love this post-season. He will be good in the league, I think.
Siebert was also HM at Punter. Just sayin’.
Garrett is a playmaker. Dude will do big things in the NFL
Ive seen Juarez and Jones predicted to UW and ATM by some so I think there should be a shot with both..at least Juarez would be staying along the coast though if he chose UW (it was UW reporters that crystal balled him to UW btw)
Isn’t that A$M swagcopter falling like a lead balloon ? LOL. Oh, wait, they’ve still got the hair salon to trump that ’cause it’s sure not there football and never has been. LOL.
Come on down guys
Only lead zeppelins stay in the air
Queston…I keep reading some bragging about Clemson being 15-0 and that has never been done before What am I missing when OU has “the streak”? I’m a little slow on some days anymore. 🙂 Thanks
I think it would have to be 15-0 in one season! When OU had the streak they didn’t play that many games per year and even undefeated teams a couple years ago would only be 13-0 so they must just mean it in the sense that no one has ever done it in one football season!
I see. However, it will still remain “never been done” after this season ends.
AGREED! Most Definitely!
Yeah, I’ve heard a lot of talk about Clemson proving themselves the greatest team of all time, and finally figured out that they were talking about undefeated regular season plus 2 postseason games. It’s not that long ago that undefeated teams went 14-0, and I’d rate our 2000 team above this year’s Clemson team, even if Clemson did manage to finish it undefeated.
What about USC a few years back?
BYU had a chance in 96 and went 14-1 and Since 2000 (5) teams have finished 14-0 ( OSU 02′, Boise State & Bama 09′, Auburn 10′, and FSU 13′ ) and (7) teams have finished 13-0 (OU 00′, USC & Auburn 04′, Texass 05′, Boise State 06′, Utah 08′, TCU 10′) and a couple other 12-0 including Ohio State last year
Ohio St. had a loss last year.
Yep that was suppose to be 2013 not last year getting old and loosing track of whole years now LOL!
Just figured I’d let you know.
All help is appreciated!
My guess is CLEMSON has never been 15-0 before. Assuming going back to last year.
I don’t think 15 games in a season was possible without the extra game in the Playoff.
This is what Swinney is referring to. ^
Yes. Aren’t they currently riding a 16 game streak, going back to last year?
Only 32 more for them to go.
I respect Clemson a lot, and I think that Clemson and Oklahoma are equally good. So equally good, that I believe they will both finish with a 13-1 record.
Ah…I see what you did.
Funny. In all seriousness, I think this is the real NC game. Whoever wins the Orange Bowl wins the second game.
Probably. I can already hear Bama’s excuses for whichever game they lose. “Well Kirby had already accepted another job, so he wasn’t focused on the game.”
Sorry but I disagree. All 4 of these teams are strong. Whoever wins will have to be at their best for 2 games. None of these teams are going to lay down and hand a NC over
I could be wrong but didn’t Marshall go 15-0 and win the Mac in like 1996-97 with Chad Pennington and Randy Moss
Looks like they were division I-AA (FCS) that year. But good memory!
That team was fun to watch even being a Sooner fan that team could light it up.
Yale went 16-0 in 1894. I believe 15-0 would be a record season in “modern” (post-WWII) football. Of course, we own the only win streak that matters.
15 – 0 for the if hey win the NC. No one has ever won 15 football games in a year.
Probably just me but somehow how Linkypoo sounds confident about attacking the Clemson D…
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Try the second one, below the frame that didn’t seem to work…or below…
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He is a good one, think we should keep him! Understatement of the year!
With the offense he’s commanding, it’s understandable. It seems like Clemson is a very aggressive defense, looking at the stats.
2nd in tackles for a loss
5th in sacks
80th in plays of 20+ yards allowed.
Did anyone else see somewhere that the Pac 12 officials will be working the Orange Bowl? If so…….yikes.
Golf says it’s BIG and Pac for the Championship. I could swear I saw the Pac for the Orange.
You would think they would assign a crew that didn’t have a team in the game..or is the Champ game Big or Pac
There’s no Pac team in it, so it would make sense for them to do the final game. But I am clueless and I have witnesses that will testify to the fact.
You and me both
Yeah you fig an ACC or B12 did the Cotton…We got PAC for the Orange…and they could use the B10 if Bama wins or PAC if MSU does
BIG 10 is doing the Orange Bowl.
The BIG 12 is doing the Cotton Bowl.
The PAC is doing the final game.
Golf says it’s BIG and Pac for the Championship. I could swear I saw the Pac for the Orange.
I thought I saw Pac for the Championship game only.
KJ Enlighten us im bored
If riley is talking about silent commits, does that mean said commits are on the offensive side of the ball?
I cant think of any offensive guys that might be a silent commit, outside moore maybe?
Cleveland would be nice, but i bet hes one we gotta fight to the end to get, if at all.
Velus Jones maybe
Velus Jones maybe
where you hearing about this? Please share. Thanks
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Just from other people on here. Someone mentioned it in the comments below.
update added
Crap!
Houston is rolling!
They might dominate their conference but still won’t make a playoff appearance
Man if we miss on either Jones its gonna sting a bit
Could there literally be a worse decision to be made then to ‘stay’ in Houston? I guess you could ‘stay’ in hell or ‘stay’ in detroit, but Houston is a close 2nd.
Houston is so bad, they pronounce one of the biggest streets in Manhattan House-ten (spelled Houston) just so they don’t have to utter that word.
All decisions that involve not committing to Oklahoma when given the option are equally bad.
Cleveland better not get too attached to Herman.
Houston has a good program and it’s becoming better. Head coach is shaking things up and they are spending money at the university so they can be accepted into a big conf.
BTW – I live in houston and it’s 80 today. Not bad if you ask me.
Which big conference will they get in..the only logical one is B12 and I dont see others wanting to add them…I sure dont
Others? Interesting, Bowlsby has met with them. I’m not saying Houston is the answer but they are in the conversation per officials.
We add no revenue by adding the Houston market. We already have it. It wouldn’t surprise me though. We have the least competent guys in front office. We need to get South Fla or even Memphis before Houston
So we have the Houston market? Who views what in Houston. That is incorrect.
I hope they don’t. It would only dilude recruiting down for all other big 12 teams. See TCU.
Yeah I didn’t want to add TCU for that reason…we are losing guys to them now and we didn’t add a market. Makes no sense to add them. You have to wonder if texas politics didn’t play a role
We are losing guys to Houston and other schools too. We don’t get all of them. It all works out.
True, but if Houston can’t get into a P5 school, it won’t continue. Herman will leave, their recruiting will drop, and they’ll be back to just another G5 team. We add them to the B12 though? They’ll be stealing more than just the occasional recruit, and we have yet ANOTHER rising TX team to compete with.
We have too many Texsa schools. I would rather have central florida and south florida.
That would be our best options, hands down, but I don’t see it ever happening. We at least had a chance to go that direction once and didn’t.
BIG 12 doesn’t have too many good options
I don’t disagree, make it 14 schools.
Houston just wants in the BIG 12. And I will ask you how is the weather in the summertime.
It’s fine, I like the heat. and you live?
giving you a hard time, hahahaha. I used stay in Phoenix in the summertime growing up. Hotter than you know what but it’s not humid. I can take the heat but humidity gets me everytime. Plus the traffic sucks but the people are really nice.
Hellish. If Hell had 90% humidity and traffic so bad I once ran into stop and go traffic at 2:00 AM on Monday morning. The crime rates about the same though. Gorgeous 73 degrees here with low humidity- and 4 seasons in the year.
Heck, I lived in El Paso for almost a year. Hot and nothing do to beside cross the border = sucks.
I went to watch OU play Stanford in the Sun Bowl. That was a terrible scene just across the border.
it has changed a lot in the last 30 years. It wasn’t near as bad back then.
The last time I was in Matamoros about five years ago it wasn’t just gritty “stay to the tourist markets” bad- it was flat out scary! Even the tooth pick chewing federales with AK’S were unfriendly and scary. OMG. What a rough town. I won’t go into Mexico anymore until they restore the rule of law. And not “he who has the most money IS the law”
Matamoros is a dump. I love Rocky Point (puerto penasco). Going there in late March. Great beach
I never fault a kid for wanting to stay close to home because I don’t know his personal circumstances but a program like Houston for an elite talent is hard to get. The offense they run now will be great and they are playing well but another good year and they will be looking for another head coach. If Houston decides on a defensive guy he could run a conservative ground based offensive attack. It is no telling what their future will be!
How important is Velus Jones now? Think we dish out a couple more offers or go all in on Jones?
Jack Jones is visiting…might be a long shot but some have pegged him to ATM and he’s a Cail guy so who knows
If we can get Jack Jones that’d be huge. And as long as we actually get him on campus we have a shot. Never know with recruiting. Really hope we can pull at least one though, both would be better.
Yeah I was hoping for Velus and Cleveland..at least Cleveland is going to Houston and not Baylor or another conference foe (although we do have them on the schedule)..would be nice to get Jack..I won’t count it out..we have some other Cali recruits and surely they are recruiting him…Even though he didn’t pan out I was super excited we landed Derek Woods out of LA a few years back
Argument to be made he was always OU’s top remaining target. I think there is a strong case to be made he’s always been the better fit for this offense, fwiw.
makes you wonder if he’s maybe a silent and Cleveland was one of the guys Riley was talking about when he said they were turning away recruits…didnt know Cleveland had a set date to announce
Link to Riley saying this?
Ill have to see if I can find it…some of these sites only give you so many free looks when you click the link and Im not paying..might be in the tulsa interview..I just remember seeing it earlier today
Ok thanks ill look there
We should probably ask for our birthday cake back
Houston’s going to be a tough team for awhile- are they the new Baylor?
If they can keep their coach they may be! Never know how a new coach mixes things up!
Yeah, ex-OC at tOSU. successful guy.
More like the new Boise State with no chance to dance
IDK, if the Big XII is looking to expand, I wouldn’t rule them out. I really don’t want another texas team but it would make sense at least geographically.
I’m thinking if an expansion happens, then it’ll be something out WVU’s way.
Assuming we don’t draw in anyone from the ACC, SEC, or Big 10, some teams to consider would be Cincy, Southern Florida (Tampa Bay is a surprisingly good college football tv market), and Temple. Philly isn’t as good of a college football market, but you might be able to change that.
Even Memphis and Tulane would be better than grabbing Houston
And recruiting wise. I’m not touting Houston but if they get in I won’t be disappointed. 4th largest demographics in the nation.
We’ve recruited the Houston area well in the past and I don’t see where adding Houston to the conference would help us in that respect.
Unfortunately, the Big XII is not going to consult only with OU on how it would affect them.
Pretty sure they have to be unanimous on big decisions
And I wouldn’t think Texas would want them in either.
Nope…texsa is already losing recruits because of the way things are going right now
UT doesn’t have the same pull they once did.
shoulda kept Mack on as a consultant lol
If expansion does happen, my dream teams to add are readmitting Nebraska and adding Iowa. I know I’ve said this before but it makes a lot of sense to me.
I could get on board with this, although Nebraska and Iowa probably wouldn’t.
That would be nice. I dont see Iowa leaving though..Dont really see NU but would see them more likely too
Neb will never work with Texsa again so that is pipe dream. I would like both schools but it’s not reality IMO. Big 12 won’t get the big name schools as they will be tied in to their conf. Baylor was a no body and if it wasn’t for the governor, they wouldn’t be in the conf. However, look at them now and the same case can be stated for TCU.
agreed, but not likely to leave BIG
No one lives there
I remember this from a previous OP. I love those two programs for athletics. Financially, I don’t think the $$$ hungry B12 goes for it. I still say L’ville and Pitt but I think I’m the only one in the country beating that drum. USF &/or UCF would also be viable, imo.
I live in Houston. This buys us nothing. The TV coverage and B12 recruiting is massive. We will be diluting the pot. We need access to other markets and widen our TV income. JMO
Geographically is the only sense it makes lol..we need to go east..Memphis would be a better option if were gonna grab smaller programs. I would love to get one of the Florida schools first also. The conference will not add any tv market and thats where the money is at
JD is correct and dead on.
memphis recruiting market along with minimal demographics doesn’t make sense over Houston.
We would have tvs on in arkansas and tennesse..we already have them on in Houston…im not looking at it recruiting wise..moneywise
And Mississippi.
Houston has more sets on than all those combined.
And I would bet that half of those sets in Houston that are tuned in to a football game are already watching the BIG 12. That’s not the case at all in Memphis.
What big 12 game. Most folks are ATM or UT fans.
Exactly, and UT is in the BIG 12. Also, OU also has always played well in Houston and has a large alumni base as well.
Mainly the fan base is ATM. Our alumni base doesn’t make a dent in over 8 million folks in the area.
yeah..im thinking Cold war baby..chip away at the Iron curtain lol
Houston is untapped. There is Rice/ATM/UT & with Houston being good over the last 10 years, they have done a good job building on that. I’m not touting Houston, I have no ties. However, they make sense to me over a Memphis.
Man I feel for you..It would be nice to have a Sooner game in Houston every other year for our fans there. Im just looking at the tv market and going east is the better option imo
More sets in Cincy or Louisville? Houston can beat both.
but we already have sets in Houston..thats the point..we already have that market. Adding Houston doesn’t send more tv revenue to us even if those other markets are smaller
No one is disagreeing with you about their current competitiveness. But, that’s the only factor where they really add anything, and there are a ton of drawbacks that really don’t make them worth our while.
Both Cincy and L’ville are large and NEW markets. They also open up recruiting areas we aren’t currently in and makes geographic sense for ISU and WVU.
But we already have most of the sets in Houston between UT, TT, Baylor, and TCU.
You are banking on a big fan base which UoH does not have. They are primarily a commuter school, with a huge demographic diversity (meaning not even half are football fans). Many go there for a few years and transfer. The stadium is new but small by most standards. They dont even garnish TV time in Houston each week, Where I can watch all teams play each week in houston that are currently in the B12.
I understand and you understand Houston. I agree with the commuter school but they are trying to make changes. The stadium is same as Baylor/OSU/ISU/WV/TT. My point in all of this is if they make it into the Big 12, it’s a major game changer for them just like TCU.
Boosters will come out of the woodwork and more changes & perception will be changed. Again, Houston is NOT the answer but an option. All I’m trying to do is make folks take off their OU glasses and view the conference as 12 or 14 teams. Landscape would be different and there would be additional credibility restored.
SEC owns the big Tennessee markets and Arkansas doesn’t have enough tv sets to matter.
It dont matter what the SEC owns…there are Memphis fans and they will watch the games on tv..more money …heck you could say UF FSU and Miami own the Florida market but there are fans that watch the other state schools
No to Memphis. I don’t know why people want them in the B12. Florida would be good if we picked up USF or UCF and grabbed another school off the East coast.
A Florida school adds new television markets and new recruiting grounds. However, it does add extra travel costs. But UCF finished 0-12 this year in football. Not going to add much there. USF might work.
Scott Frost. Just wait.
The issue is that Scott needs to build UCF. “No one is from Central Florida” is kinda true. Thus, UCF is not their team.
p.s., I live in Orlando.
I was just point out that Memphis would be a better option than Houston from a market standpoint
No Houston, Memphis, CSU, Pitt, SMU, UCF, S.Fla, those teams bring absolutely nothing. There are no good possibilities for expansion, so the only viable solution is dissolve the Big 12-2 and every man for himself.
They bring viewers and that brings money…yeah Id love to get some P5 teams out of their conferences but most have ridiculous GORs clauses to prevent desertion …Pitt would actually be good for WV and the Florida market would be very attractive money wise and recruiting wise
No more Texas teams.
no more tx teams, it’ll be like the SWC redux…no thx
Some are in denial about your statement. I agree with you.
Buddy I believe Houston is on a rise. I just dont think they should be in the b12
Neither was TCU but look at them now. Does ISU bring in the big money? No. The conf needs 12 and it’s not going to bring in big boys like FSU or Clemson.
Not to speak for JD, but I just don’t see what they add that would benefit OU. We already have the Houston market, so no additional revenue. Texas recruiting is overcrowded as is, so getting recruits there would be even harder than it already is. And Houston adds no prestige; whether that’s fair to them or not is beside the point.
Essentially, if we add Houston and they stay good, they’ll poach recruits from the rest of the conference, lowering our overall quality of play. If they decline back to mediocre, then we added a mediocre team that brings in no revenue. It’s a lose-lose either way.
Exactly.
Drew, take your OU glasses off. View this as the Big 12 and getting bigger. All the smaller schools in the big 12 have gotton bigger, not smaller. Thus the reason smaller schools want to join.
Big1G adds Maryland & Rutgers so what prestige do they offer.
Every school poaches recruits so that has no bearing.
I don’t see how anything that I said implies excessive bias, but the Big12 should only add teams that will benefit the conference, and I do not see Houston doing so. People here are already complaining about losing recruits to Baylor and TCU that we never would have even 10 years ago, if you don’t think that adding Houston would make that problem worse, then you’re the one that needs to take their OU glasses off.
Houston adds nothing to finances, recruiting, or prestige, and at most you could argue those are a wash. So, if Houston isn’t beneficial by those metrics, how could you say adding them would make the conference stronger? I’m legitimately curious, b/c I don’t see it.
The problem is that when you talk about adding schools the key metric to look at is how many television sets do they add. Between Texas, TT, TCU, and Baylor most of the Texas sets are already in the B12. Houston doesn’t really add any revenue to the B12. So all adding Houston does is add one more mouth to feed and no more income. This has very little to do with sports and has everything to do with revenue. If it was just about adding another school, Houston would already be in. But the other schools aren’t going to give up revenue just so we can have a playoff game.
Good teams will be good and GREAT teams like OUr team will find a way to be GREAT regardless of the teams or competition we face that is why Stoops is building a National Brand. Recruiting Texas has become harder for a while now and Stoops saw that before we did, hence him recruiting Cali and Florida and well even working on in state kids more!
I agree completely. But also, why make it more difficult on yourself than you have to? Houston adds no financial benefits, nor national prestige. All they’ll do is add further dilution of Texas recruiting among P5 schools. If we expand, we should do it right, and not just add a neighbor just b/c they’re close and doing well (for the moment).
OU recruiting in the Houston area has been abysmal in the past considering the size of the area. I actually think it would improve should Houston join the Big12. The kids would know they will be able to play in front of the home folks occasionally.
It might improve in Houston alone, but it’ll probably hurt with the rest of the state. Don’t know enough about Tx recruiting to say definitively on the matter, but I think that’s a fairly common conclusion.
Are you kidding, mean we can’t speak just on football aspects here, cause ISU is pretty good in Basketball and bring in their share there and in wrestling also they happen to be pretty solid. Just like KU does nothing for us Football wise, yet they are a top program Basketball wise, you can’t just say that without any proof that a team doesn’t contribute or else the Big 12 wouldn’t keep them and would send them elsewhere. Houston makes sense on a football level and basketball level.
Houston golf/track? Overall they would be good. However, when judging a conference it’s all about football. Also, as a side note, even as good as Kansas is at basketball, they make no money. It’s break even situation. Most basketball programs lose money. Big 12 football revenue keeps most afloat.
Pitt and Louisville. Won’t happen but makes a ton of sense.
Well I wish we had him but now we are gonna have to show him what he missed.
Man that is brutal I hope something happens soon with Houston that makes these kids rethink their decisions.
Like Herman to UT at the end of next season.
like us crushing their souls in their own house next season 🙂
I’ll even take a close win. That game won’t be a gimme at all.
I don’t think it will either but I do like our chances with who we have returning next year and with Baker at the helm. If we can grind through our OOC schedule next year that it will make for a great looking resume for sure.
I’ll give Demetric a pass on this one. He really got my hopes up. lol
LOL you never know with kids these days..they might tell him one thing and somebody else another…then the bringing something out of left field
Yeah that’s the truth. I know my mind changed often when I was an 18 year old kid.
True. I remember when I told Demetric that I was committing to OU his response was “Who the hell are you?”
well…Who the hell are you!! lol
See? everyone does it !
Iman Marshall?
This OP has turned into realignment thread.Hell id rather talk hallmark channel ///////S
So whats your favorite show on there lol
November christmas
Cant say I have watched it lately…I use to watch the Kramer episodes and saw some Catherine Bell commercial and she’s So Hot…that I watched Good Witches lol
Lmao one reason to watch
Thats one older woman I would mind…….having dinner with lol
And breakfast
man I like how you think!!
It was so good last night. Thanks for recommending. /s
lmao
any luck with that Riley quote
Nope cant find it
Man I wasn’t trying to lead you on lol..swear I seen it linked earlier
Im sure ya did JD didn’t mean to imply you hadn’t
It was in the Tulsa World, some one posted it in the daily news this morning.
Aw thanks ET
This one?
https://t.co/0iVWffl3hM
Nope something about silent commits and turning recruits away
From todays daily news.
Didn’t mean to still your thunder just posted this above but nice find EasTex
No problem, hated to see the guys left hanging.
No matter..they sure as h… didn’t turn Tyrie away.
So that quote might be a little over stated imo
Sorry bud, didn’t mean to add all my 2 cents on the topic. I’m done. However, hallmark does nothing for me.
Lmao boom
Quick question. I never saw that Texas fired Norvell or the other OC. Did that officially happen or are they still employed but looking for another permanent OC? Just wondering if they let anyone go yet. I didn’t see if they did.
He was never an OC so guess is he goes back to his old role
Riley to ECU. Novelle to OU OC
Thou shall be banned for life for such blasphemy
You need to get back to the Hallmark thread.
LOL Im actually trying to get off the computer all together..yall need to quit quoting me lol my phone won’t quit going off
Ring Ring, what up JD? 🙂
I knew I could count on you…I was welding a hay feeder so you didn’t bother me lol
LOL, mine aren’t broke but I do need to get some more hay put out before the rain moves in this weekend.
Plenty of hay this year. Don’t hold back…Im build a few that keep the hay off the ground for when it rains
Good idea, I’ve been kicking that around.
quarter inch thick. Making them just over square but they can get their heads in all around. They won’t be bending that pipe. They have sled type on bottom with a loop to hook a chain but we have front end loader so it shouldn’t matter
HAHAHAHA
*gulps whole bottle of bourbon then eats a handful of Carolina Reaper peppers*
They say milk is better for hot stuff…something to do with no polarity
I thought we were bringing back Heupel?
Were getting the gang back together…Monty and Bobby Jack as well
Too bad Cleveland will take a beating his first college game
I think we have proven year in and year out that one kid does not make us or break us on the recruiting front. Again give me the kids that want to be Sooners and really have that #OUDNA not the ones that have to be convinced it’s in them!
So effectively this means that we lost two hopefuls in one fell swoop. No Cleveland no Oliver.
Seems so Fear
Still have 2 months, they could still decommit. I would say it’s a long shot but with all the decommitments happening, you never know anymore.
KJ knows something lol!
Haha I wish.
I think once Herman signed his juicy deal that reassured UH’s commits.
I figured we were already out on Oliver but I had a slither of hope for Tyrie. I’ll be more than happy with Southall, Daniels, and Jones.
Houston on lockdown…Herman
STEPHEN DALE IS GOING TO HAVE A FIT!!!
And by fit I mean he’ll act pretty normal…
I’m native Houstonian so I’m pretty happy when Houston kids stay home, been great watching their season especially since we open with them here next year. That being said, I’m always extra supportive of a Houston kid going out of state if it’s to OU!
Ok off the comp yall have a good day and BOOMERRRRRRRRRR
SOONER!!!!! Have a good evening
Some where below someone said Riley said something about them having silents and turning away kids this is all I could fine on it!
Lincoln Hawk•6 hours ago
Eric Bailey from TW said Riley told him we
are having to turn people away on the recruiting
front. Obviously he can’t name any names but
would make for interesting conversation on who
we would turn away that has an offer….
This seems to me to be maybe word of mouth someone said someone said something. But I think TBH and IMO we probably do have at least 3-4 silents and that Stoops and Staff know who they are and also while having them in fold are still swinging for the fences for some kids that maybe we didn’t have a chance with say last year at this time.
Good luck to Cleveland. I wish him the best. In a day and age where so many people have difficulty affording college, I’m happy the cost of attending college will not be a burden to him or his family.
Agreed, I just hope he has 0 catches and 2 rushes for -12 yards next year vs OU.
Agreed.
I just wish more college kids saw the scholarship for that. It’s a huge deal that lots seem to fail to take advantage of.
🙁 too bad…next
Houston has landed some studs this year. If not us, I’m glad it’s Houston with Tyrie.
Bob looks like he’s been benefiting from Ms. Birds meal plans as well.
Man, we could have an incredible LB group for the future with Elysee joining Bond, Bolton, DeBerry, Hulk, Youngquist
Don’t forget Kelly, Jefferson, and Terry although Terry will likely become a DE
Bond is graduating
I agree! But isn’t Bond a Sr?
Correct, my bad.
Houston is out recruiting a lot of teams right now. Not surprised.
*Edit= Got nothin’
This is the most recent update at the top, but I can’t see it too many times. Like it. 🙂
Didn’t see it until I refreshed…after I posted.
Tried to remove it but it stays up.
It’s not hurting anything, just leave it where it is.
Think I will call him “E-Boss.”
Sounds good to me.
Now it’s gone.
I wondered if Bob washed his hands, standing so close to the dudes on his left.
https://twitter.com/OU_Football/status/675095302139944960
I don’t think those ol’boys worry Bob none, not even their cooties.
Only fitting that OU is the first team to represent the Big 12 in the CFB Beauty Pageant.
Saban’s about 5’6″…he’d be about 5′ even if he were bald.
Que?
He coaches about 8′, though.
“Former starting QB Trevor Knight granted full release by OU” Good for TK.
Yeah I just saw that too. If Baker goes down no es bueno.
Yeah I hope it all works out well for him. And even though it was tough watching the TCU game TKs a security blanket.
Well, Cody Thomas supposedly made HUGE improvements over the course of the offseason…hopefully we won’t find out for awhile yet.
When it was leaked that Cody was going to be Baker’s backup in Bedlam, that could have made him rethink some things.
I never heard that. Must have missed it. I was rooting for CT during the QB battle (glad I was wrong). Hope he is ready to step it up.
I hope it works out well for him too but Im thinking selfishly right now. This close to a NC and we just lost our backup QB. I dont get the timing on this.
Yeah definitely for the NC (fingers crossed)….Im not sure how that works, if he would stay half a semester then leave for a new program and be eligible to play in the fall. I would think he would want to stay for the NC is we hopefully get that far.
He should still be eligible until the Spring semester starts or he enrolls on another school. Since it starts on the 12th and the championship is on the 11th he should be available for the games.
Not sure we’re losing our backup QB. Late in the bedlam game, when it looked like Baker was coming out, CT was the one that snapped his chinstrap.
@SoonerScoop: BREAKING: OU QB Trevor Knight has been granted a full release by OU and Bob Stoops. https://oklahoma.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1835537 http://twitter.com/SoonerScoop/status/675094905677549570/photo/1
Never saw that coming.
Best wishes, TK. You are a quality young man.
Word is that he’s walking on at Texas Tech…
/s <~ figured I'd add that.
haha Waco could use a few more QBs
What people are not seeing is that he hasn’t ruled out returning to OU even though he has a release. I am not saying he will come back but, I thought I had heard K-State was a potential landing spot and I think he could do well there they certainly can’t do worse and Georgia EH and Oregon EH, SMU he could have some fun there though.
Utah?
Texsa?
Oregon?
LSU?
Utah State. Reunite with ol’ Josh.
Josh is at Mizzou now I think.
I thought they said that was a rumor.
I dont know maybe not official?
Wherever he goes, I hope he is needed and wanted. He took enough abuse from OU fans.
I was abusive. But I still liked him as the no.2. Good luck to him, the lord is with him where ever he goes.
I could see this, actually. Close to home and a team in need.
They do have a hot shot freshman coming in, but they have some RBs posing as QBs right now.
Freshman vs a guy who’s played in some big games. Wonder if Norvell has gotten fired yet? If not I could see that keeping him there…
Me too, which is why I put them as a choice. Same for LSU, they are QB challenged, too.
First thought was “nah” for LSU, but that could be a great choice. He’d probably do well under Cam Cameron, if he hasn’t gotten fired yet.
blasphemy!
Florida or SMU.. would be ideal choices…
Florida is a good call. They have a defense.
Gonna be tough for that Florida defense to defend the pick 6!! In all honesty though I appreciate Trevor and all of his enthusiasm and most of all his amazing performance in the Sugar Bowl.
Their offense should practice tackling drills.
(sorry, couldn’t resist)
I guess I understand it, but he always seemed like Mr. Sooner to me, so I’m a bit disappointed that he doesn’t try to get on the field at another position.
He is a class act. I wish him the best.
Always loved TK9. Will always wish him nothing but good fortune. God Bless the young man.
Good face for the program and a good leader. He has his education and if he wants to explore other opportunities….wish him the best. Just stay away from Katy Perry. 🙂
So Trevor Knight is transferring…
I really thought Trevor would want to stick around for his Championship ring. Is he gone or just have the option if someone wants him?
I’m hearing it was news to the team, probably not to Ty and the QBs though.
I don’t blame him but the timing seems odd, expected it more after season. This is a stretch but I wonder if Baker is getting some good news about his extra year? More likely the expectations of the incoming QB’s.
I thought that even if he stayed through the spring he could still transfer and be eligible to play in the fall. But I’m not sure. Maybe hes graduating next week.
Reportedly graduates at the end of the semester. Wish him nothing but the best. He led OU to one of their greatest victories ever and was elected as a Captain by his teammates. He deserves success. Agree, wish this had been kept on the downlow till after the CFP … but…
you are correct about the being able to play this fall
I’m guessing he announced now so that bowl prep could focus on a new backup, in case he is needed.
I’m guessing he sticks with the team until the off-season.
I’m hoping that’s the case, wish they could have kept it quiet until then. Don’t need distractions right now.
FedEx
I think he sticks around through the end of the season but I think he ends up at Utah or UTSA. Maybe South Carolina needs a qb and that would put him closer to that Clemson girlfriend he had/has?
Possible landing spots? I saw K-State below and that seems like a good place for his skillset. I think New Mexico State is doing some option stuff he might be a good fit for. Wherever he goes/if he goes, I hope he wins a ton of games and accomplishes all of his goals.
Wonder if he would hook up with Josh H.?
Ha! Just typed the same below. Great minds, I guess.
I think that article got Trevor some suitors. That’s college football, good luck young man.
“Hey….round 2 huh?”
https://twitter.com/MDavidHood/status/675072094695251971
Stoops is standing there loose and cool. Swinney’s hands are clenched in his pants like he’s terrified. Nice.
LOL really dude?
https://twitter.com/johnross2009/status/675109382871453696
Roll Tide.
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/664703726704283648/a3D4Tg-y.jpg
Hilarious
Roll chins.
Sounds like someone is butt hurt about Henry.
obviously that mother trucker doesn’t own a mirror!!
Ad hominem, refuge of a tiny mind.
Says JOHN ROSS?! ROTFLMAO
You aint no peach yourself Johnny cakes. Judging by the looks of Baker’s OSU girlfriend…if that what ugly gets you then JR must be dating Ms.Universe.
Jack Jones no longer visiting OU
No tyrie Cleveland, jack jones no longer visiting this weekend TK leaving…in whats been a great year today could use some good news
That means velus jones is solid now.
You think?
Not sure about that. Why stop recruiting both tyrie and jack jones…high caliber talent, i inderstand its a numbers game but still, crazy imo
I doubt OU stopped recruiting them. They probably just decided to go elsewhere.
Could be a case of turning guys away…or silent commits.
Thats what Im thinking as well…when your full and a guy we think we have a good shot at commits somewhere else out of the blue then there is a chance we told them we were full and they jump on their other choice before they lose it…not that that is what happened here but it does happen and thats reality
We have three more weeks of this crap. Probably be some other transfers and booms between now and the semi-final.
True. I always dread this time of year in sports. …….coaches leaving, players leaving, guys getting suspended, and never knowing what to get the Mrs for Christmas.
Bit disappointed in Cleveland. But Jones wasn’t likely at all. Anyone hear from John Houston yet??
Maybe Cleveland and Jones heard TK was leaving?
So is there an actual transfer happening with Knight or are they just saying “BREAKING: He can transfer” ?
the latter.
bit of a non-story, IMO.
side note nobody will care about – i get an endless amount of entertainment from how one of the good ol’ boys breaks a story, the other local yokels are all too happy to credit them for doing so. but when someone ‘outside da club’ does the same it’s as if the story magically appeared as if from nowhere and only once said yokel has “confirmed” the story through their own “sources” then, and only then, can they acknowledge the news, while also refusing to credit who actually reported it first. instead falling upon some bulls#$% theory that “confirming” said story through their own “sources” thus relieves them of the responsibility/obligation to do so, the same responsibility/obligation they’re all to happy to remind others of when the shoe is on the other foot.
/end rant
Jack Jones not visiting OU. Shocker.
If Knight leaves, do we try to take another QB in this class?
Doubt it. The preferred walk-on McGuiness was pretty danged good in high school and Kendall will be here in 2016.
no
What do you think they do with the scholly?
Punt returner. 🙂
Why would we use a scholly on a non existent position?
CJones has that covered
More defense, this class is defense heavy
fg holder
fg holder
offer it to somebody else 😉
Nah, Dalton Woods takes his spot.
LOL!
Can Casey come out early
Take another walk on this year to hold a clip board. We’ve found out if you’re down to your 3rd qb, you aren’t winning the big 12 so why run Kendall or Robison off?
Kendall? Lol. If taking another QB in this class runs him off, good riddance.
You really want to run off our 4 star freshman QB before he even arrives?
He isn’t “our” anything yet. If he wants to commit, he is more than willing. What I think is silly is people suggesting taking a QB in the 2016 class would scare off a QB from what, the 2018 class?
Hes already signed his financial aid papers, hes as ours as he can be before signing day.
Austin kendall is a 2016 kid. I wouldnt blame him for being upset at us taking another QB in the same class he is.
My bad, I was thinking Kendall = Thompson. Made that mistake twice yesterday. Yes, I agree with you, taking another “big name” QB in this class, even if he could, would probably make Kendall rethink things. I wouldn’t mind a transfer or something for depth, but even that is probably unlikely.
I was gonna ask if you were confusing austin with casey thompson, kendal’s brother lol.
All good =)
Kyle Allen leaving too apparently.
More scholly’s.
We can add a kicker
We can add a kicker
Apparently to Cal.
Did he follow some Cal players on Twitter?
Oh I have no idea, that’s funny though. Just the reports from “sources”
I figured Murray might leave after how his freshman season went. I didn’t think there was a clear cut #1 qb down there? So maybe Allen just doesn’t like it there. Sumlin should get out while he’s still a hot coaching name.
Good luck to Knight. He was a good Sooner.
The good news about knight transferring? No more of the “do you think he can play WR?” qurstions. Good for knight though I hope he can find a place where he can start and have a good year.
Is Cody Thomas now backup qb numero uno?
I think our backup plan is mixon and Perine in the wildcat.
Yes, unless Zach’s plan is implemented.
Im assuming he finishes the year
Switzer to be honored soon on the College Football Award show.
That was a great video piece in the feature. Hopefully someone will post that on here in the next day or two.
You guys probably already seen this but the Oklahoman is reporting Stoops has given TK9 a full and complete release to play for any other team including other Big12 teams. Truly a class action by Stoops and best wishes for TK9.
AD is still the man. Nice TD run.
https://twitter.com/mhouckou/status/675124095143550980
For those who don’t have a Tweeter….EastTex!
Haha
TFB- Is it true that TK is seeking his full release from OU? If so, why right now, and not after the bowl games?
He may have so that he can keep his options open. If he does transfer he would need to enroll either the same week as the potential title game or the next week. And perhaps Cody Thomas is getting a majority of the second team reps and no one wants to make that public to hurt knight’s chance transferring.
He may have so that he can keep his options open. If he does transfer he would need to enroll either the same week as the potential title game or the next week. And perhaps Cody Thomas is getting a majority of the second team reps and no one wants to make that public to hurt knight’s chance transferring.
Bob on championship drive.
update added
You’re bringing me down man!
You’re bringing me down man!
update added
Kyle Allen just said OU would be a good destination ( paraphrasing )
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/texas-am-aggies-kyle-allen-transfer-options-oklahoma-sooners-bob-stoops-121015
https://twitter.com/PctheDb4/status/675136204766101504
Thats Parrish Cobb right
Yep.
That’s a lot of burnt orange looking stuff in his living room.
I don’t know the name of the colors but I wouldn’t call it burnt orange, I’m sure his mother is the decorator. I’m just glad to see the OU on his shirt…..but I’ve never seen that baby blue in my local sportswear shop.
Man… Cooks shirt is faded
Except for the OU on PCs shirt, all the “red” items look color-shifted. Perhaps it was the flash. But faded or bright I like BOTH men’s shirts and THAT logo.
Lady of the house says the color is peach. Who knew? PC’s shirt is gray with a red OU according to expert opinion who says I’m color challenged
Who who are we to question the “experts” in our lives? 🙂
Not me.
P Cobb is a stud
P Cobb is a stud
https://twitter.com/PctheDb4/status/675136204766101504
Kyle Allen to OU
We need to keep these defensive recruits committed and add a few more of the top targets in Kelly, Bledsoe, Daniels, bosse and southall. I’m sure the WR position will settle itself out. Maybe we won’t have that one dominate guy like Shepard or broyles but maybe we will actually got 6-7 deep with productive WR.
I think we recruit Brandon Burton as a WR now , it would be awesome if OU was still recruiting Lamar Jackson
They probably got the impression that he’s not leaving Cali.
True , Brandon Burton is our guy. Who are the other WR recruits?
Allen to OU is interesting. Still has a rs year I think. Steps in immediately after Baker leaves and maybe have two good years.
I think Pollacks had some drinks before they went on the air.
That dude stays SEC-drunk.
I think Pollacks had some drinks before they went on the air.
I feel there is a good chance Baker gains his year back and is with OU in 2017. So OU wouldn’t be a good spot for Kyle Allen.
We would start a Dynasty if Shake n Bake gets his year back
No reason we couldn’t with the way recruiting will be going. We will be stacked. A fitting way for Bob to retire from OU.
OU is starting to have those 5 star recruits seriously look at our program.
I think OU is a good spot for everyone that thinks they are good, it’s about competition and not being afraid. If that scares him then yeah, maybe not a good fit. Baker walked on following a Sugar Bowl MVP and look at how that worked out.
I understand that but the guy obviously is afraid of competition since he had to compete with Kyler Murray and already transferred. He won’t unseat Bake.
That’s safe to assume but do we know if he transferred because of competition or is he just unhappy with the environment there? I agree he wouldn’t unseat Baker but he may be thinking Baker leaves in a year.
I have read that there’s some downwards spiraling going on in the program, so I’ll bet it has more to do with coaching than it does competition.
I’ve heard multiple “experts” say the tour of appeal Baker is going for almost never gets approved. Anyone have any other info?
BOOM!
https://twitter.com/_cedariann/status/675143906900725761
I was just about to post. This has been out for 10 minutes and no one broke the news til now over here!
4 – 4 stars for 2017
The future’s so bright we gotta wear shades ?
OUDNA
Boom it is!
Jordan? Is there a reason why TFB are being totally mum on the Trevor Knight transfer story? Do you believe it’s not true? It’s the biggest story of the off-season so far. It’s been reported on just about every sports outlet in the country. Do you know something that they don’t? If so, please share with us.
Makes you wonder doesn’t it.
It’s not the off season yet though.
I have some unsolicited advise for Trevor Knight. If your reason for seeking to transfer is to be a starting QB in your final season of eligibility, please do not over-estimate your abilities as others before you have. Kendal Thompson has hardly played at Utah. Drew Allen couldn’t win the starting job at Syracuse. Daxx Garman can’t see the field at Maryland. The list goes on and on. Oregon and Florida and perhaps even K-State, are certainly no guarantee of starting. If you’re going to be a back-up, be a back-up with your brothers here at OU. If you want to play, there is nothing wrong with a non-Power 5 school.
TK is a Captain. TK earned the respect and OU is his family. If he leaves, he will lose what it took him 4 years to build. Every player wants to start but QB is different & being a good backup is not shabby on a natty type team. He could go in at any minute the way Bake plays.
Nah, he won’t lose any of that. He might lose a few fans, but most OU fans won’t flake out on him. Kids like Trevor are a treasure. He is what student athletes are supposed to be. He has his degree and he is a very high character guy who did his best. I will always remember him as a great Sooner player.
Thank you for articulating that for those of us that are proud of Trevor and wish him the best.
Kyle Allen baby
Rumor now that kylar Murray may be looking to transfer too. No I don’t have a link.
I’ll take Kyle Allen. He’s bff with Mark Andrews.
Texas A&M we will trade you Trveor Knight and the 1 yr for Kyle Allen and the 2 yrs 🙂
Just saw that saxet just hired an OC. The current Tulsa OC, under Montgomery (the former Baylor OC). SAXET may have just gotten a nice boost on offense to compliment a very young defense.
I apologize, Gilbert, the new hire, didn’t call plays at Tulsa.
This guy is not the least bit surprised about the Jack Jones visit (or lack thereof). He was never leaving Cali.