– Jordan Thomas: There has been quite a bit of speculation about what has led sophomore CB Jordan Thomas’ suspension in part or in entirety of two games already this 2015 season. In the past we’ve made a point no to report on things of this nature, but due to some of the ridiculous things being said about Thomas we felt compelled to say something in this particular instance.
After speaking with a couple sources about the situation, Thomas’ most recent transgression was missing a team activity late in the week. There is no academic or drug issue, or anything of the sort. – (Super K)
– Devwah Whaley: As most of you know the 2016 RB is expected to take an official visit to Oklahoma for the TCU game. This past summer he told us that he plans to announce his commitment at the Under Armour All-American game in January. However Whaley also told us that prior to his announcement he plans to give a ‘silent commit’ to the coaching staff of the school he would be choosing.
TFB’s Andrew King spoke with a source who said that the UGA visit went well…really well. We haven’t been able to confirm through two sources whether a silent commitment has happened but we get the unambiguous impression that even if a commitment hasn’t happened, Georgia jumped to the number one spot for Whaley.
At this point we are under the impression Whaley will still take his official visit to OU, though as is always the case with recruiting, things canchange. We also get the impression that if there is a school that can change things for Whaley, it is Oklahoma. But as of right now Georgia seems to be the clear leader. – (Andrew)
– Tyrie Cleveland and Ed Oliver: As we noted over the weekend in the Open Post, 2016 WR Tyrie Cleveland (Houston, TX) and his teammate 2016 DT Ed Oliver were expected in Norman for official visits this weekend. The two did indeed make it, however we have not had a chance to catch up with them just yet to see how things went. I suspect getting too much information out of either will be difficult, but over the next day or so I’ll be checking with some sources close to both to see if OU was able to push things at all in their direction.
If nothing else, it was clear OU certainly put their best foot forward in recruiting the pair. If you need proof, below is a tweet Cleveland put out over the weekend with a video of the Sooners throwing him a birthday party at Bob Stoops’ house following the Tulsa game.
https://twitter.com/Tyrie_1/status/645384745572896770
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First? Wow.
My big fear with Whaley is that he knows he can be utilized more at Georgia. If I were in his shoes I’d want to go where I can be the focal point of an offense.
And possibly OU’s o-line performance thus far as well, IMO.
Perine (JR) Mixon (RS Soph) Brooks (SR) Ross (SR) Anderson (RS FR) maybe he wants to see the field earlier. He would come in and not redshirt (based on past history regardless of current depth) but might want to see the field more early and be more of a focal point.
Would think the likelihood is high that OU has Perine 1 more year, 2 for Mixon. So depth is good for next year but beyond that… It’s not too late to get another good back lined up and go all out getting a top back next cycle.
Absolutely, just something to point out. I think it will be easier to get a 5 star RB for the 17 class than the 16.
Mixon is a Freshman… (RS) Freshman at worst, but since he technically wasn’t a part of the team last year. I think he’s just a Freshman.
I am talking about next year when Whaley would be at OU. Notice all the other players as Perine will be a JR, Brooks SR….
Ah, my mistake.
TYPE of offense might be a bigger issue. Playing behind older, great backs could be a scare, but playing in an “I” power offense in a similar “run oriented” conference might be the appeal to him. Being “featured” in an offense might be also.
I see little difference to pro team evaluations since they would be able to see him run in either offense and pass block and receive more often in a spread.
Next year class of RBs look good , I wont be worried if we miss out on whaley
Funny how at one point it was thought Whaley was already silently committed to us. Recruiting is a crazy process…
Thomas missed practice Friday and it was his second time missing.
Fri is walk thru, not a true practice, I believe, fwiw.
That’s still ridiculous.
Jordan, there was a piece on FSSW before the game on Saturday. Stoops said he had changed Friday practice to a more detailed, full practice (he did not say pads or not), because of the Chip Kelly study on “what works”.
I saw the report from Bruce Feldman during the Tulsa game and I thought he said it was as you described, but more walk thru related type deal. Is that not correct?
They didn’t go into “detail” details only that it was a full practice. Stoops said he changed his mind after hearing the evidence on the Chip Kelly weekly routine for a sorta walk through on Thursday with a more complete practice on Friday. At least thats what they reported Saturday morning.
If you’re a football player, 99% of your life at OU is football. 99% of your friends are football players. I just don’t understand how you could even think to miss something like that…Did he really think it wouldn’t be a big deal?
I know he’s a smart kid with a tough major, but he’s not very smart for doing something like this. He was either studying or with a girl…
99% chance it was the latter! It would be one of the few things powerful enough to make a young man miss almost anything for!
Which ever is correct, I think its inexcusable to miss a practice without a pretty good reason. I don’t think Stoops minces words as far as team rules go.
Especially in the middle of the season. Gotta put the work in, can’t take days off.
Agreed.
You were right. http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/notre-dame-fighting-irish-brian-kelly-deshone-kizer-indiana-hoosiers-jordan-howard-092015?vid=528712771985
I really didn’t want it to be a right or wrong issue. I have the utmost respect for TFB guys, I just felt if the FSSW broadcast was correct, then it was a bigger deal than ditching a walk through. It is interesting though how much science has pushed the game to a different level. ie we now have a Coach Tiff, and there are rules about playing after a concussion and we have our walk through on Thursday now, and practice on Friday.
haha, no worries. right is right, and you were 🙂
His High School coaches should have taught him this basic rule of life.
Chip Kelly and “walk thru”. Now I’m starting to understand Murray’s struggles this season.
I just know someone at practice and that’s what they told me. But still I will never understand missing anything like that, especially being a college athlete I don’t understand it.
Oh yeah, not saying you’re wrong by any means. Just offering some clarification 🙂
You are correct. But as Jordan said, it was walk through from what I’m told.
Regardless if it’s a walk through or practice. That’s stupid to miss. Especially at OU. If any of us had the chance he has to start at OU I would be doing everything right to play. No matter how boring it is. It’s pathetic to give him any excuses and I know you’re not, but if I was a coach and he misses an easy walk through just goes to show how much passion and love he has for the game. Just sayin’
+1000
I think your language is far too strong. I made more than my fair share of mistakes when I was 19 and missing a practice (training session in my case) was prob least of them. I’m glad I wasn’t judged so harshly.
Nah, I’m a college athlete and would never miss practice. It’s stupid too. Unless he was sick or had an excuse to miss then that’s different but he wouldn’t be suspended if that was the case.
Cool. Sounds like you’re above reproach.
No it’s doing the right thing. Lol
Wow. You seem like a real hoot
Missing something as “ordinary” as a walkthrough, when you know you might not get to play if you do, is pretty stupid.
Good gracious people. It’s a mistake. He’s paid his due. Let it the hell go
Are you serious? Everybody gripes about ou not being elite and blah blah blah, how the coaching was bad. Well they can’t get coached missing practice. So he gets a pass for missing practice at OU?? If you didn’t call into work and just missed a day for no reason I guess it’s okay. Boss should say no biggie you made a mistake by missing work. Yeah that’s idiotic. You’re a moron. Btw this would be your second missed day, since it was Jordan’s. Lol
i’ve read all your crap. so, let me start. it seems as tho you’ve finally got off mamas tit long enough to get a different brand of attention. 1st i’ve played a sport professionally. so your little “i pway in cowege” is a big who gives a damn in my book. 2nd i’m not a teenage dumbass who thinks he’s got everything figured out. 3rd if you think you’ve never made a mistake you can shove that right up your ass. 4th he didn’t get a pass numbnuts he got suspended for the game. do us all a favor:
1. shut your mouth
2. beat it
3. grow up
What’s your name and I’ll look you up then professional. And pros don’t take days off and miss practice for no reason. I’ve grown up. I’ve been there, I’ve been to where I didn’t want to go out and practice and play while it snows but I had to. Why? Because it was the right thing to do, it was best for me. Suspended one game for missing practice is weak. Lol so weak. You didn’t play professional or you wouldn’t be okay with that.
cool story. i am so terribly excited you shared it. you definitely don’t need my name. you haven’t grown up or you wouldn’t be on here throwing stones at someone for a mistake. you are a POS who thinks he’s better than people and can never do no wrong. wow, you never missed practice. so that’s makes you a POS who never missed practice. that’s pretty much it.
i am ok with it. he did the crime, he did the time. its the coaches call. and if his teammates don’t think its enough and they tell the coaches so, then it could be more. its definitely not your call and i can thank God for that
Haha okay. The professional is right ?
that’s the 1st thing you’ve been right about
Well your philosophy is dumb and I can’t argue with stupid people.
my philosophy? what about you? some punk ass kid who thinks he’s never done anything wrong. you wanna lynch the kid for missing freaking practice. “we talking about practice.. not the game. not the game. practice.” i’m simply letting the man who makes that decision handle that decision, not allowing dumbasses on message boards to run the team. now how bout you get back to me when you’ve grown up. until then, i’m good
You got it all wrong. I’m saying, that it goes she show where football is on his priority list. Me for one, would kill to play for ou, I’m Jordan Thomas, I am doing everything right to be the best. But you’re saying it is okay to miss practice and get punished?? The player that works his butt off and doesn’t do anything wrong is the guy I want playing. Not the one that misses walkthroughs and misses a game and then it’s okay cause he is 19 and dumb. That’s not an excuse when you’re the starter. I’ve made mistakes, I’ve wanted to miss practice, but I never missed no matter what. It’s not hard to go to practice, the hard part is to put in the work. Reason he hasn’t played well this year. Lol
that’s a good post. seems grown up.i don’t condone missing practice. i just let who needs to handle it, handle it. of course i would rather him be there with his teammates and do what the team is doing. another reason not to judge is we don’t have all the info. why’d he miss? i don’t know. hopefully he gets his butt back out there and earns trust back
Exactly, I’m not saying what bob did wasn’t enough. I’m saying on Jordan’s part it’s dumb.
yessir. it was dumb. it just sounded like you were jumping all over him earlier with a judgmental outlook. glad we cleared this up
sorry, but he’s a starter and his responsibility to be there is higher. If it’s his second offense, the doghouse or going home could be next.
I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the secondary. I really hope it wasn’t as bad as many people thought.
https://twitter.com/Jordan_Esco/status/646006676449947652
The Big12 sure loves using that “Co” prefix.
From that ‘everyone gets a ribbon’ school of thinking.
.https://twitter.com/OU_Football/status/646007070139920384
If nothing else, OU recruiting staff did everything they could to make the best impression possible on Cleveland and Oliver. You think a surprise birthday celebration at Bob Stoops ‘palace on the prairie’ won’t be something he’ll remember for the rest of his life?
Boy, everything and then SOME! Think about what a staff is asked to do – Gameplan, practice, keep 90 young guys motivated, attending class, teaching the game plan, teaching position play in general. AND THEN recruit 24/7 – a surprise BD party for a (as in ONE) recruit right after a game while continually contacting a hundred or so recruits over three class-years. I get tired just writing it out.
And don’t forget the constant social media when you aren’t ‘doing’ all the other things you mentioned. It is mind-boggling.
It’s not dissimilar to the juggling act any high level executive has. Bob earns his money…and so does his staff. There may be better out there, but this crew is pretty damn good.
Recruiting is so bizarre.
Yeah, I thought Whaley was a done deal, especially after George got a commit from another top back.
I wonder if the air raid is going to hurt RB recruiting.
It shouldnt hurt RB recruiting if our RBs keep going for 130 + yards a game like Samaje did this weekend.
I was under the assumption that OU led because of the air raid. He plays under a system like this currently in High School.
Yeah I was mostly referring the whole B-Day party thing.
Can you imagine any other scenario where a 50 year old man would sing happy birthday to a 17 year old kid (on a day he’d probably much rather be with his family)?
Bizarre. I feel bad for college coaches when I see this stuff.
How did Farniok look at guard?
Slow start. First 2 possessions I think there were some communication issues which isn’t a surprise but after that, I didn’t notice anyone on the line which is good because if I notice the OL it’s probably not good.
Got to be honest. Sanchez struggled just as bad as Mbanasar or Green. “Big play Sanchez” makes a big play, or gives up a big play. Players like Sanchez, Gabe Lynn, Julian Wilson are road blocks for younger guys to get playing time and get better. The D will be better when he’s gone.
I’m sure that’s why Julian Wilson made an NFL roster…
He made the roster because he was injured. He didn’t even make it to training camp
I wouldn’t blame Sanchez I would blame the scheme. Sanchez was matched up on a 6’4 220 WR. I bet PJ would have player better on him and Sanchez on the other side.
Couldn’t have been worse. Unlike last year, I believe the players were actually in position to make plays. Just got beat. I think they were a lot closer to slowing the spread than before. Optimistic
He looked injured to me. Did anyone else notice a slight limp?
I noticed that too. Maybe exhausted? Confidence seemed down.
Disagree. The guy has a knack for big plays. You prefer we lose now and hope the young guys get better? And then they become the “road blocks” the next year? Best players play.
Didn’t say he should be replaced. He’s just enough better that he plays, but not by much.
Not sure how the defense would be better without him if there’s no one better than him on the roster now?
I thought Marcus Green played better than he did. Seriously, he makes big plays. He also gives up big plays with his soft coverage and lack of ability to tackle.
Sanchez wasn’t great by any stretch, but he’s clearly our best guy. Also haven’t seen him miss that many tackles. Soft coverage is a scheme issue, not a player issue.
And the fallacy of the backup being better is just that. A fallacy. Marcus Green is not better than Sanchez.
Sanchez is our best CB, I agree. Saturday (1 GAME) Green seemed to be the best to me. He tackles well. Sanchez played too soft and Mbanasar was in position to make plays, but wasn’t quite ready.
Agree to disagree, lol. Either way, we need to get way better in the secondary ask the way around to compete in the Big 12.
Yes, and like I said I think we are close. A lot closer than last year, that’s for sure. Just need players to make plays.
Their best on our best was either a loss or a tie. Their #1 was big and fast. He have Sanchez all he could handle. Now Sanchez was hobbling a bit at the end. The kid played hard and wasn’t the reason we have up so many points.
Rather, poor communication and bad alignment by Thomas as well as bad technique by P.J. We’re major contributors. I’d also highlight Dane Evans who is a darn good Qb.
I believe he’s saying the younger guys appear to have higher ceilings than him, and I tend to agree.
I mean I guess that’s just an opinion, but based on what? Recruiting hype?
Based on where they are at this point in their careers compared to where he was. He’s undersized to get matched up against bigger WRs and I don’t believe he’s that great of a tackler. Better than previous years? Yes, but that’s not saying much.
cpearc00, we are on the same page. Sanchez is just not physically capable of matching up with big recievers. He is about 160 lbs and a tackling liability. He does a good job of covering, but has match up problems. Ask Kevin White if Sanchez is any good
Nobody in the country could cover White. Sanchez is very good.
Here is the Sooners roster link for the 5’11” 179lb Sanchez.
http://www.soonersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=208409634&DB_OEM_ID=31000
Again I’ll just have to agree to disagree. But Marcus Green is behind where Sanchez was at the same point in his career for the record. Sanchez started as a RS Fr. Also, Marcus Green is even smaller than Sanchez. So that argument is no good either.
I wasn’t specifically referring to Green as I think PJ and Thomas have the better upsides, but your point is taken. For the record, I do think Sanchez is the best we’ve got at this particular point, but, all in all, i do think our secondary should be better overall once he’s gone.
Shorter, not smaller. If Sanchez could gain 15 lbs, my opinion is it would make him a lock down corner. He just isn’t big enough. The whole situation is my opinion and I may be completely wrong.
You are, lol.
That extra 15 pounds could cost him a bit of quickness and speed, though. Good technique can compensate for less size and strength.
So why do we recruit them? I suspect they can play or we wouldn’t. So what is it, lack of reps, lack of experience? Sanchez is quick, not fast. But look at Taylor, Austin, and Green. All small, but we must have thought they could play. Don’t get much of an opportunity. I think the point raised above is worth thinking about.
His size has always limited his tackling but he looked really good tackling against Tenn. It’s tough to be the #1 CB at that size when so many #1 WR nowadays are 6-3, 220. Maybe he should play against the slot. He could play aggressive and matchup physically with his guy a lot better. Then we could play big on the outside. Problem there, of course, is the experience gap we would have on the outside.
Size, speed, hype, and opinion.
How is it on Sanchez to play 10 yards off his man? We know exactly what his limitations are but he’s also not superhuman. Even from an eternal optimist like me, DB play was atrocious.
I agree with you, sort of. He did play tight coverage at times. I think his lack of size/strength is his problem. It would help him with getting out muscled and pushed around. Might even help with tackling. (gaining weight)
Wrapping up would help with tackling.
I may not be a smart man but……
Made a highlight of the linebackers through the first 3 games. May be the best 4 we’ve had together: https://youtu.be/7xvVRAH7ve4
Saw #s 19 and 23 a lot. Who are those guys? s/k And that ep block by Predator was crazy!! Thanks!
Honestly, Jordan Evans is a beast. I was blown away at how many stops he made.
Noticed him on more than a few plays making ‘stops’. And JEvans, at 240ish, brings some momentum and makes ‘stops’ in the hole, not 3 yds downfield with the runner on top of him.
As is Devonte Bond! Just incredible combination of strength and quickness.
Can he get to the QB more?
Okay. But where were they when the Tulsa back was running for 167? We cannot have the second tier playing in space outside the box unless our D line is dominant.
I think more than anything this game exposed the one flaw in having Mike up in the box. Those extra seconds getting a call relayed were costly. Also, he was down in the end zone for the last possession of the 1st half.
We need Sean McGrew and Moe Neal in this offense next year..
LT poster re bu coach on tu sideline…….”Crap, now Baylor will know how to move the ball against our defense.”
fwiw, @CareyWWLS: Lebby, a former player and student coach at OU, was recognized by several people including former Sooner J.D. Runnels
Montgomery was clearly the brains of the Baylor outfit and they needed to see what he was doing in person.
Yep, that is a violation of the rules!
What’s up with Robert Barnes attending the UT- Cal game last Saturday instead of coming to our game with Tulsa? Doesn’t he know he’s committed to the Sooners? Thought Reggie would have taught him better than that.
Is this sarcasm I hope?
Not at all!
Lol, he’s a 16-17 year old kid. Let him enjoy his life and go to whatever game he feels like going to. Can’t be so insecure about guys visiting other schools.
Especially when they lose!
I don’t see it as an issue. You only get recruited once and kids want to enjoy the process
He wants to hang out with his friend eboh. I’m not worried about Barnes and Texas. The kid has already seen multiple campuses including Texas already so its no big deal IMO.
The only thing better than watching Texas lose, is watching Texas lose in person.
Bob did say they expect JT at practice today & to play next week..
Anyone else heard about this anywhere? If true, this is a big no-no!
http://newsok.com/article/5448357
Just more evidence of how shady Baylor is –
Is there any other evidence other than a few people thinking they recognized him? Gonna look like we have tinfoil hats on if it was just some poor bastard that looks like him.
If it was him, just cements my feelings towards Briles.
Briles called Stoops after the game to apologize for it so yes he was there. At least 2 of his former teammates recognized him and have said so.
Just saw this:
IF he was only there for one quarter I would find that suspicious. If he had no bad intentions… who watches a game for one quarter from the sidelines and then leaves? Someone who is afraid they just got caught?
I’m inclined to believe him, but he’s right about the perception. Hopefully we kick their teeth in and everyone forgets it. If not, I really hope no one uses it as an excuse.
Still have to play the game on the field. We have time to adjust our signals if that’s the concern.
Absolutely agree with you!
I don’t believe him because his answers are evasive: “Maybe a quarter, I’m not sure.” Did you ask him how long he was there?
If there’s not an advantage, why is he there? Why don’t you know where he is? It’s game day. He should be on your sideline.
Here’s a chance for the media to ask some tough questions of Briles and I bet you they won’t.
Why was he there?
Did you ask him why he was there?
Why wasn’t he with your team?
Why didn’t you miss him?
Why was he wearing TU gear?
Are you going to discipline him?
Did Montgomery know?
Who on the Tulsa staff was aware of his presence?
A lot of people are saying there is no advantage to being on the sidelines. If that is the case, why risk the perception of integrity to do it? Otherwise, I agree with your list. Cheating is cheating whether you gain advantage from it or not.
Most of us bash the OU coaching staff. But never once have they been accused of anything unethical.
I will never be convinced that Briles didn’t know about this.
Edit: I agree with you: why take the risk of poor perception if there’s nothing to be gained?
At the very least, fire the dumb a** for doing it and tell your daughter to divorce his dumb a**.
May want to qualify the first part of your comment with “under Stoops.” Whether Switzer was actually guilty of a lot of the things they said, he certainly was accused of a number.
I never remember him being accused of specifics, only that he was crooked. Might have been a little fire mixed in with that smoke though, lol.
Switzer did a lot of things that weren’t technically against the rules. He typically went right up to the boundaries of the rules but not over. Some of those things later were made against the rules. It’s not always easy to figure out with Switzer what the reality was. But He was still accused of unethical behavior which was my original point. I think a lot of it was he made some enemies in the old guard by recruiting black players. I know Darryl Royal hated him. There were probably several others.
Yeah I remember the talk before we played Penn State in the Orange Bowl. Barry was the evil and Joe Paterno was the saint.
Funny thing is I heard an interview with Paterno, probably in the ’90s, where they asked him about Barry. He said he had a lot of respect for Barry because he was able to help a lot of players that Paterno never would have been able to because of his situation at Penn State. Always thought that was an interesting take.
I remember some time after the game Paterno saying that he respected Barry.
I saw a tv interview with Paterno where he directly accused Barry of cheating. He later apologized for it though. But still.
Being a little naive if you think Switzer never broke any rules. Seriously? The guy’s an absolute hero and a legend, but let’s not act like he did everything by the book.
Agreed, and again if nothing stood to be gained, why would you risk your name by doing it?
Baylor bye week
Montgomery is the one who left him the credentials for his sideline pass. I have hink I read that Briles’ daughter was on a he sidelines as well.
Shut the front door. Are you kidding?
I disagree that there is no possible advantage.
Translation: Yes we cheated and Im really sorry that you caught us. In the future I’ll try to cheat in a much more clandestine way.
Exactly!
This sounds like bull crap to me. People had to have known. Tulsa and Baylor both knew it was a rules violation and did it anyway. Obviously the guy wasn’t invisible over there, so neither team expected to have serious consequences. Regardless of whether it’s a scouting advantage or not, both head coaches owe explanations better than the one above and both programs should be punished by NCAA. Probably nothing happens to either, unfortunately. I’m glad Coach Stoops doesn’t pull this kind of stuff.
Briles had a very rough childhood, and I appreciate how he overcame it. But geez, I think this guy would stop at nothing to win.
If you don’t understand fully what’s going on at Baylor now, then you’re not paying attention.
Bill? Is that you??
Bulls*** he’s embarrassed. It’s not possible to be embarrassed if you have no shame.
Thanks. Hadn’t seen that.
Baylor is shady, but this doesn’t really seem like it would be a huge deal. Everything Baylor would need to know about the game they could find out from just watching it. I don’t see how someone on the sideline would gather that much more intel.
Each team is required to send game tape of all the previous games to their opponent, along with formations and who is in the formation. I do not understand why they would do it either, but it is a rules violation.
Perhaps trying to pick up signals or other things not on the tape.
Still seems minor… unless he had a video tape set up or something. Otherwise he’d have to be unbelievably gifted with memory, which I doubt.
I disagree, if there’s no advantage to seeing the players perform in person then why don’t coaches just recruit from game tape? If there’s no advantage to seeing the players perform in person then why does the NFL have players work out rather than just draft based on stats and game film?
I’ve been to an awful lot of football games, I always learn more in person than I do on TV.
Jeff Lebby is Art Briles’ son-in-law. How did he NOT know where he was going to be this weekend?
Because he’s lying.
Thank God my parents-in-law don’t know where I am all the time. 😉
Yeah, I said that on a Sooner football page on FB and got slammed for saying it. But he is a coach on the team, you tell me what team has a bye and all the coaches are leaving town for a weekend, and none of them tell the head guy where they are going?? Nope, it does NOT happen.
Much less this season with Baylor eyeing a Conf title and perhaps a slot in the playoff, you’d expect it to be pretty much all hands on deck 24/7 until about Jan 15. This is perhaps Baylor’s one and only shot at national glory. You’ll endanger that because somebody’s got to get a last round of golf in before the weather turns?
I think I read where Briles’ daughter was on the sidelines as well.
🙂
So, has there been any update on Baker’s appeal to get back a year of eligibility?
I think it’s premature at this point in time.
As most of you probably know, espn concocted a “Football Power Index” as a clever way to mask its favorotism for the sec. in this week’s rankings, 1-4 are, surprise surprise, sec teams – including bama, who just lost at home. OK, that’s my sec rant of the week. I’ll try to let it go.
No need to let it go, it is a fun topic!
Thanks. I was beginning to wonder if my fixation was becoming unhealthy.
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Cleveland > Whaley if I had to pick and worry about getting one. Georgia is known for featuring backs as much, if not more than us. If he thinks that’s where his best chances of success are then more power to him. On the other hand Shep/Neal is gone next year with nobody showing the potential to be the new number one or two yet.
Agreed. I like Whaley, but we need Cleveland more.
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My question is, what happens to Baylor now that it’s been confirmed that one of their coaches was on Tulsa’s sideline this past Saturday? By itself it probably wouldn’t seem like a big deal, but when added to all of their other shenanigans recently, could the NCAA come down in them?
Welcome aboard! BOOMER SOONER
Art Briles has already admitted that it happened, and said he notified the conference and the NCAA. I would imagine they will make it so this particular coach cannot have any official business off of the campus for a year? Just a slap on the wrist.
Yeah, basically the assistant is going to take the fall as though it were a one man show. He’ll suspended for a game and that’s about it. I don’t think there is enough evidence to connect it to anything else.
If suspended for a game it should be the whole week of practice and OU game. That would be some what fitting for the crime. Don’t think it will happen though
Funny that this comes on the heels of Kendall Briles being suspended etc last week… I’d say yes, where there’s smoke there is fire..
Generally the NCAA is OK with things when you self report and discipline the offending party. However, enough of those add up and you start getting into “lack of institutional control” territory. That is by far the worst thing the NCAA can label you with. Doubt we are there yet. But it could happen. Also depends on who your friends and enemies are.
Very true Bob!
Yep. If texsa recovers from its AD coma and finds out Baylor pulled anything on the mighty state school, they may get I-35 diverted around Waco.
Yeah, I don’t get the impression that Baylor is a political power within the NCAA. They are actually the kind the NCAA has loved to go after, successful program with relatively small fan base. You can whack them hard and not piss too many people off.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Hey, Texsa!
Depends on if Briles knew ahead of time. Break the rules, get caught, then self-report.
I agree with you, but what is considered “enough”? There’s the sexual assault cover up, two coaches suspended for recruiting violations, now this. That’s quite a few things in a short period of time. The NCAA should be looking a little closer now, but it’s doubtful they will.
He should be suspended for the OU game
Welcome!
First, welcome aboard. You will like it here.
Second, in regards to Baylor, if were up to me, those kids would have to prepare for every game without coaches until after the OU game. When I say prepare, I mean game plan and all. That’s cheating with an attempt to gain a competitive advantage.
Who does that crap?
And penalize Tulsa while you’re at it.
i bet Tulsa bears the brunt of this
I would bet you are right.
pun intended? Tulsa Bears …Baylor Bears 🙂
it is now 😉
They should’ve known better than to allow him on their sideline, don’t you think? Somebody surely knew his being there was a violation. He’s Briles’ son-in-law and a Baylor assistant. Tulsa’s HC just left Baylor. If he didn’t know, he might want to look around some.
they both had to know it was a violation, that’s why I don’t buy their excuses
Me neither.
Soccer, Basketball, whatever, doesn’t matter, everyone knows that’s not allowed.They just didn’t expect to get caught.
What can you do to tulsa? There has to be a law for it to be broken.
Baylor coach on the sideline is a scouting violation, and they(or the coach) will be punished.
It’s very unfortunate because of the past relationship with Tulsa. I don’t know, but I would suppose the Tulsa admin would not be pleased if there was collusion between the UT and BU coaching staffs. Briles is already under suspicion for the Boise State transfer convicted rapist and his alleged previous knowledge, and his unabashed arrogance and demeanor, now this. Does “where there is smoke…” apply here?
Welcome
First I’m hearing about this.
And some of you thought I was crazy for suggesting OU held stuff back on defense. It’s a cut-throat game.
Welcome, sorry about Stephen Dale.
Classic
I had my blue Tulsa shirt on….wonder who turned me in ? my father in law ( Art Briles) and my boss said I should learn as much as I could about OU tendencies, athletic talent, scheme changes, etc so I asked Phil Montgomery for a pass. What else could I do ? Risk straining my relationship with my wife, in laws, and fellow coaches at Bayor or turning my back on Coach Stoops ? I decided to spy on OU because I like my high paying job and don’t want to have any family problems with the Briles or my wife ( their daughter ) ….so I hope you guys understand my dilemma …hopefully when Coach Stoops pulls the knife from his back, he will , too…
You sure got the TFB board going with your first post.
Welcome aboard
Saw a couple wearing tfb boom shirts at the game. My wife and I wore ours last week it was cool to see another couple wearing them.
My GF got us the boom soon pair for our 1 year anniversary to go along with tickets to the TTU game this season. The fact that she’s an aggie makes it even sweeter 🙂
I thought we were doing walkthroughs on Thursday now, and practicing on Fridays. Is that not what the announcers said on tv? Something about the college body responding better that way. Or did I misunderstand?
You heard right. That’s what they said; walk through on Thursday and more intense on Fridays.
Remember there’s a bye week. I assume we WILL practice Friday of next week.
Talking about last week, not this coming week.
From Lehman’s radio show: Lehman spoke with the BU assistant who was at the game the night before the game. Teddy said he asked the guy what coverage/defense gives their offense the most trouble. His reply: “Crowd noise. It doesn’t matter what coverage you’re in we just want to go fast and the only thing that slows us down is crowd noise.”
Maybe OU fans should start cheering for the team they supposedly root for and
quit bitching at the first sign of resistance from the opposing offense. Maybe
they need to quit being fair-weather fans and actually start rooting for the good
guys. I wasn’t at the game so I can’t say from my perspective but from what
those guys said, the crowd was as quiet as they are at a spring game.
Fair weather? I don’t know about that… 100 straight home sellouts is pretty impressive. It’s hard to cheer and get excited when your defense has been getting shredded in one way or another for nearly 5 years though.
I guess I’m coming at being in the stands from a different perspective then. I went to Texas A&M and although I have been a lifelong OU fan, my time at A&M shaped my view of watching college football live and in person. Their view is that the fan is another participant in the game. You’re there to help your team win, not to clap when something good happens. I guess the crowd just views the Sooners as being out for their entertainment.
I think it’s fair to say that OU fans are pretty spoiled. A little demanding, even. But a lot of folks in that stadium have been season ticket holders for years or even decades. They’ve seen a lot of great football over the years and they aren’t particularly forgiving when the “product” on the field doesn’t come close to the hype. Is that a good or bad thing? I don’t know. (I’m glad I don’t have to stand the whole game like folks at A&M do — my knees couldn’t take it.) But I do know this — OU fans WILL reciprocate good play with strong support. I’ve seen plenty of games in that stadium when the noise has been deafening.
How’s that working out for them? No conference championships in decades and no NC’s in my lifetime! oh well.!
So I guess you think the team is there for your entertainment? That’s not even being a fan. That’s being an audience member.
11 am starts don’t help. Try playing at Death Valley at 8pm when those Crazy Cajuns have been tailgating since noon. THAT’s a homefield advantage,
yeah. thankfully we don’t have to play there. I’d actually take our defense against LSU though. Mike loves to play against that style of offense.
It is called “Death Valley”
Indeed. And I’d like Owen Field to become known as the Den of Doom. The Field of Nightmares. The Gridiron of Grief. The Grass of Kick $##. Well, you see where I’m going with this…
so you weren’t at the game…….
yeah…and…
I was at the game. It was pretty lame in terms of noise and fans didn’t finish filling the stadium until after kick-off. So ya I can see what you’re saying.
I was also at the 2008 Texas Tech @ Oklahoma game though. Vast difference in sound and atmosphere. However, vastly different implications at the time.
Last note… Defensive play calls were coming in incredibly slow. There were several times that the Tulsa snap beat the defensive play call. Not trying to knock Mike Stoops, but that’s not the fans fault.
ah ok well thats something that I can see being an actual problem. On TV though it looked like TU was just going too fast to get the call in.
Ya, a little bit of both. But add a little miss alignment here and there and/or late to proper position by the DBs (trying to confirm the call) would leave an uncovered Tulsa receiver now and then.
It’s really just minor things that need to be addressed. I kinda wish they would play a little more to deny inside leverage (inside technique) with the DBs. But then again I’m not on the field with these kids everyday and don’t have an assessment on how well they can flip their hips and run after a solid jam.
yeah I saw some inside technique some Saturday trying to force guys to the sideline. I keep thinking back to 2012 when OU won. It seemed like the strategy was to just line up and play man across the board with safety help. They gave up a million yards on the ground but THEY WON. Maybe they should try that again since OU has an offense that can keep up now.
Agree that the fans can be better, but the guys on the field have to help out a bit. Can’t rely on the crowd to win big games. Tennessee’s fans stayed loud cause their D was dominating most of the day.
What an arrogant dude saying crowd noise was all that could stop them. Put the pipe down.
Really sad to hear that the crowd was that quiet. That must have really impressed Cleveland and Oliver.
I’ve been to many games in Norman and the crowd has always been pretty loud. Doubt if it was bad enough to hear crickets! I bet most of the fans that show up to the games do cheer loudly and aren’t of the fair-weather variety just based on my experience.
Not as highly recruited but time to go after Samaje Perine’s cousin
Some on here like an Oklahoma kid as RB. Not sure of the name.
Hogan, from Norman?
Not sure, I know the RB has been to OU on a UOV
What about this guy RB Darran Williams? He was the guy that came on a visit for the Akron game,
https://rivals.yahoo.com/video/highschool-football/Rivals-Spotlight-Darran-Williams-1129937
Could be, he’s pretty productive, but none of the paid services have him ranked (which really doesn’t mean anything). TFB does a much better job at this IMNSHO. He’s small, but very productive.
Like Hogans film. He could play WR as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkM0GpY4gNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKQNFJ3Nahs
Looks like a good fit for this offense, possible punt returner as well.
listed as 6 – 6’1, 200-210 pounds.
Wow if true!!! why are we not going after this guy? Anybody Know?
only taking 1 back, and they like whaley better, is my guess.
Yeah thought the same thing, then we offered the other kid last week. I say call the kid an ATH and get him on campus.Then put him where he helps the team the best.
ya id say he should get a strong look.
From what I gather, he is being recruited pretty hard by U of Wyoming. I don’t think he even has an OU offer.
Hope they offer. Always like home grown kids.
He’s not as good as the other guys higher on the list? And yes, Bob’s twins play for Norman North. One is a WR, and one is a DB. The WR starts and is pretty decent. I think they’re only Sophmores.
I dont think he’s that big.
One listing was from hudl, can’t remember where I saw the other.
Yeah I saw 6′ on rivals but if you watch the youtube on him if he’s 6 feet then practically everyone else on the field is 6’4.
lol, thought i had heard somwhere he was like 5’9ish, wondered if those numbers were doctored.
To me that looks more realistic.
3 stars and rated #29 RB on Rivals and he looks very impressive on vids but you have to wonder about his offer list.
Thus far his best offers are from Tulsa, Wyoming and Colorado St.
We offered the RB that committed to Standford last week I think. TFB posted in one of the Open Post.
ESPN reports it was Jeff Lebby, the Baylor passing game coordinator, ex-Sooner Student Assistant, on the Tulsa sideline. I guess Art Briles supposedly called and apologized to Stoops. Apologies if this has already been posted.
Apologize for what?
For one of his assistants being on the Tulsa sideline during the game.
Passing game coordinator & son in law
Reportedly camouflaged in Tulsa clothing. So nobody knew, right? Yeah, right. Had to have come in with Tulsa crew or we need better security on the field!!
I also find it hard to believe Art knew nothing about it when it cones 1 week after his SON (OC Kendall) was suspended for recruiting violations. So basically he is saying either FU to NCAA I do as I please or he is saying I didn’t warn staff at all, nor do I know what they do. BS he is an absolute control freak.
For getting caught cheating?
That works.
Is that a question within a statement?
yes?
This is interesting?
i’m ron burgundy?
shady
Dedicated fans,
http://www.ou.edu/content/web/news_events/articles/news_2015/oucornmaze.html
Thoughts on the Baylor coach on the Tulsa sideline during the OU game? Personally, chalk it up as another shady move by Briles & company
I wanna ask, why dont we have more run plays of the “I” formation? I mean it seems to me like Samaje and possibly Mixon need the initial burst of speed to be more effective.Furthermore we could use more play-action pass and use Andrews more.Not an expert so i would appreciate an opinion.
I formation puts QB under center and is not conducive quick pass plays. Isn’t the pistol like a cross between shotgun and I-formation though?
Actually the pistol doesn’t use a fullback so its not really like the I. Anyway it does give some chance for the HB to get going downhill though.
They seem in my opinion to be more efficient under the pistol rather than the shotgun
Nevada, or UNLV or somebody, is running the pistol with a fullback and calling it the rifle. I saw it in a west coast time zone game opening weekend.
Air Raid
Yea, but LR has shown the I-formation a couple times in the opener… So, we def have it, just a matter of using it, or apparently “not” using it. I would certainly like to see it at goal line, then play action out of it..
True, I’m guessing it’s also a matter of not showing all your cards at once as we still haven’t played a conference opponent. That said, I liked the group on the final TD of the Tulsa game. 3 big WR (Andrews, Green, Miller) and Flowers, Perine in the back field.
https://twitter.com/NewsOKSports/status/646074014452965376
When? Did they find a 25th hour in a day to report on something that isn’t sec football?
Looks like 5 pm tomorrow, by this article.
http://www.oudaily.com/sports/oklahoma-football-baker-mayfield-to-be-
featured-on-espn-sportscenter/article_171e8868-60a1-11e5-ba9c-e37d4fe8908c.html
Of all the low down ways to make me watch espin…
Me too!
Agreed
You know you love it.
https://twitter.com/KellyHinesTW/status/646074580482703360
but you didn’t just “leave a credential.” you dudded him up. these apologies seem pretty freaking brutal. “uh, uh, uh, uh well uh, he was only there for uh, like uh, a quarter or uh something.” i can’t wait til you’re SMU
I’m sure someone will be verifying the wedding, time and date, why the UT duds, etc.
i’m thinking they’ll just say oh it was nothing and they’ve already done what they should with the apology.
while all the rest of us are looking at it as another blip on the radar and Briles will probly pull off a Carroll and take off for the NFL if they even want him
The OKC media is making a bigger deal out of the fact OU was hosting 2 top Houston recruits on Saturday, that also had a Baylor offer, this apparently is a bigger infraction than he being on the sideline. Montgomery is probably in the clear with his explanation, but what if Lebby inadvertantly bumps into the recruits while on their official visits in Norman.
oooh. the plot thickens. me likey
https://twitter.com/jasonkersey/status/646077035845062656
How come this is a bigger deal, Jason? We showed the recruits a strong offensive effort that can use a few good receivers after Shep and Durron are gone and a defense that needs talented players, plus a WIN. Maybe both came away thinking they can succeed here! And they got a party! Sign em up.
What is he talking about with that mushroom head he has?
Why would hosting two recruits who hold offers from Baylor be an infraction?
I don’t know. I was following some of the tweets, then these with Kersey started a conversation, and there was some discussion of infrations of some sort of recruiting violations. It’s kinda hard to look some of that stuff up also. To your point, I didn’t see anything in print of stories this afternoon that stated any other violations, just some of the OKC media discussion of the possibility.
its an official to oklahoma. why is baylor there? what if he sees them and chats them up? what if we had coaches with signs outside other teams stadiums like the chickfila cows?
Well, Coach might accept the apologies and attempted explanations from Briles and Montgomery, but I don’t know. He seemed kind of disgusted at the presser today. Guess we will see if anything comes of it if violations people have been notified.
yeah i hope they have a ledger going at the ncaa and keep tabs of all these misdeeds. and Bob should be pissed. you went to all this trouble to get him on the sideline. for what? signals? i’m thinking we probly swap em out for each game anyway. to get an eye on if we go vanilla or play something different from when we faced you last yr? i don’t wish harm on anyone but if Briles fell in a well it wouldn’t hurt my feelings
Don’t worry I am sure Art Briles will handle this and suspend Leddy for a game against Kansas in which they have no earthly chance to loose like he did his son last week for that weak team they played!
That dog don’t hunt.
We need names of the people getting married. Kinda like the “flat tire” excuse in high school.
The dog ate my paper?
I met a poor man who didn’t have any homework so I gave him mine L:)
This is starting to smell worse than summer road kill.
In the future because of this questionable behavior, Montgomery can get Baylor to play Tulsa instead of OU…oh, wait. Baylor won’t play anyone at Tulsa’s level.
Looks like their next big payday will be…an AWAY-and-AWAY series at Oregon with all PAC officials.
Yeah…about that wedding, I’m going to need someone to vouch for that. And what wedding: most people don’t get married on Sunday. Saturday is the preferred day, usually in the afternoon.
Looks like TCU is gonna have some more trouble on D. http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/sports/TCU-Football-Player-Arrested-on-Robbery-Charge-328548171.html
Not very Christian of him.
That did say TCU and not Miami didn’t it?
If they are going to be thugs, I wish they would go to Waco where they would fit in with the ethics.
[Said in my best Art Briles voice]: “Now, now. They ain’t no violation on me or my staff, hear? But if you think they is, I don’t mind talkin’ about it none…
…but before we do talk ’bout it, have I told you about my big, fat tight end?”
I’m still laughing!
ooooo I love voices!
don’t know anything about ft worth but is tcu located in a/o near a rough neighborhood
East of the campus it gets kind of iffy, but it basically is its own enclave SW of downtown.
TCU campus is a driver and a wedge from Colonial CC. Maybe some questionable areas in the other direction but to the North is Primo!
novel units of distance
Colonial uses TCU stadium parking for events
um no. decidedly no.
Mostly to the southeast only. To the north, northwest and northeast, it can be pretty nice. It is a mixed bag. You choose which you want
https://twitter.com/Jake_Trotter/status/646098992992915456
Who’s going to takedown TCU first? OU or the police?
I’m betting the Po-Po or the medical staff will get them first, they were already down 6 defensive starters lost for the season, now their back ups are self destructing.
It would be more meaningfull for OU to beat them full strength. There D is pretty decimated by injury not to mention the arrest. I think Patterson is a good coach, I think TCU is a good school, but thugs will be thugs. I don’t know if more vetting of players need to happen before offering a a scholly or not. It’s not a happy thing for me, it’s pretty sad, really.
Texas Criminals Unitentiary.
No reasonable person poops where they eat…seriously.
They got kicked out of a party they weren’t invited to, so they beat up some kids and took their case of Keystone beer. Pathetic story all the way around. Hard to believe that a senior gets involved in this out of the blue without any prior incidents.
What’s hard to believe is that someone/anyone would fight for Keystone.
Or beer. 🙂
Maybe they just wanted to batter some fish.
That could be or they have my recipe for beer braised, slow roasted brisket with lots of onions and garlic.
Do you have truck parking?
Que?
Oh, no this ain’t no diner.
I LUV brisket!!!! Maybe more than tots.
me too
I love me some brisket, too, long as it is cooked low and slow and tender to the knife.
ET is that catfish place out by Waskom on I-20 good, ok, alright, edible?
I don’t know much about Waskom these days. It was only a few miles from where I grew up and we just kind of avoided it, but that was long ago.
If you want catfish, you will need to go north of I-20 from Waskom to Uncertain, Tx, it is just off of U.S. 43 south of Jefferson.
There are several good catfish restaurants, the best known is Big Pine Lodge. It does have a huge parking lot if it isn’t too crowded.
http://bigpineslodge.com/
If you drive through Marshall, you owe it to yourself, your future generations and your ancestors to go to Neely’s and have some Brown Pigs.
https://www.facebook.com/Neelys-On-Grand-504213112927857/timeline/
In Shreveport, it’s Herby K’s or nothing.
http://www.herbyks.net/Herby_Ks_Home_original.html
I actually in spurts have to be in both Marshall and in Shreveport , so thanks for the advise. I remember seeing that place in Marshall, just couldn’t stop at the time.
Go inside, there is limited seating. Tell the waiter you want “two pigs, fries and iced tea.”
Heaven on a bun. They take a pork shoulder, smoke with hickory for a long while, roast it til it’s ready to fall apart. They shred/chop it, put their spicy vinegar based bbque sauce on it, take a bun with a little mayo on it as a moisture barrier, some lettuce, a pile of the “brown pig” then put the complete sandwich on a sandwich press to toast it on the outside.
You will not be disappointed.
I have a thermometer probe in the brisket and one on the grate. a key to smoking brisket is that it always stalls at about 165 degrees. Sometimes for a little while, sometimes for a good while. You have to get to 195 to 200 to get truely tender, then wrap and put in an ice cooler for about 45 minutes. Great stuff. Takes 12-16 hours at 215, depending on the brisket. I love smoked brisket
me too
I think it was probably more like, “hey, you can’t kick us out…alright then, we’ll just take your beer,, look how tough we are.” I think drinking Keystone is cause for immediate expulsion, I put better beer than that in my slug traps.:-)
Well, if it’s all you’ve got. But friends shouldn’t let firends drink Keystone.
U are too funny SR
Fulmer Cup
Could Castiglione cancel all OU-Tulsa sporting events for the future? No amount of apologies are probably going to satisfy the fan base, especially given the amount of dirt being dug up. Might be hard to cut ties with Baylor without splitting the Big 12, but Tulsa is out-of-conference…
think that was the last game for a while anyway
Am I the only one that thinks everyone is blowing this out of proportion? It’s a minor violation. Move on. Won’t affect the competition. The stink has been made.
???
Sorry for jumping into the conversation too late…I just got home from work and saw this craziness and was just curious about what was happening and also what other people were thinking.
Not at all. No apology necessary.
probably, but in politics it’s called bad optics
Just a hypothetical question, what if he was recording our O and D signals so Baylor could sync them up with the tape?
I would say whoever thinks that has a tinfoil hat on, lol. Also, we change our signals before our game with them. Crisis averted.
Ha!
Easy now, Slippin’ Jimmy.
Its also about Briles & his repeated above the law mentality
I say we beat the mess out of Baylor, and then may the NCAA hammer fall. I don’t want any excuse from their whiny, goofy fan base.
Wait, what, Baylor has a fanbase? When did this happen. The last I heard Mike Singletary was playing. You learn something new everyday.
LOL! Nice.
Must be a slow day when it seems like most of the comments on the Open Post are about crazy things happening on other teams…lol
Crazier things have happened in Whacko, Texas.
Its a nice change of pace. We know who OUr QB is, we know that LR is gonna run the ball out of this version of the air raid, we know that we are 3-0 and going into a bye week, and we know as OU fans we don’t always agree with each other but we are all still Sooners.
Nothing brings a fan base closer than another schools troubles.
Of all the nicknames different schools give each other, my least favorite was the Gooners in the 80’s.
still a staple of the pukes
As if…
ffffff texsa
I don’t know that I have laughed as hard and long out of pure enjoyment over a missed PAT as I did after I heard what happened Saturday.
glorious…. I laughed my butt off tho in South Bend, I laughed the whole game. I laughed at the band & their fans. I also charged some of the food to use my very handy & super powerful phone charger box thingy lol….
I watched it as it happened…..the fans..lol…it was glorious.
the Cal QB saying Holy F^ck over & over was pretty good…
then there was Strong not even realizing he missed it, whispering to Jay Norvell LMAO
I flicked over to it briefly, but the colors and sounds were too disturbing and went to something else.
Charlie didn’t even know they missed 🙂
I read that. I think it is on tonight or tomorrow, I’ll time it to watch the last few minutes.
The players on the sidelines didn’t either.
Fact is they got lucky, they had gotten their butts beat for 4 quarters
And the FLOP. lol.
Aggy would be proud of that flop
It was, indeed, a great moment. I’m still laughing.
Raise your hand if you’ve messed with Texas lately? I see a lot of hands.
Why hasn’t OU offered Kyle Porter?
Good question, everyone else has. Pretty salty back.
I imagine he doesn’t want to play behind Anderson
So I re-watched the game. Couple things…
1. Our OL stinks. Even on some of the successful running plays, it was Tulsa being atrocious, not our OL making great blocks. Good news is they can only get better.
2. Defensive philosophy has to be re-evaluated. At many times on Saturday, the best possible defensive play we could make was tackling a Wr for a 6-7 yard gain. That just isn’t good enough imo.
Pass rush is ineffective against that system when we are giving them easy pre snap reads. I’d rather see us drop 9 and cover and make the QB beat us with his legs than let him complete easy passes.
3. Give their Offense a lot of credit. They’re very good at what they do. They run block well and their skill players were on par with ours.
4. Mayfield had his best game by far. He stayed in the pocket for the most part, made his reads, and found the open guy often. Hard to say how much was TU being bad, but he made the plays that were there, that’s all you can ask for.
5. I’ll probably get blasted for this, but I still think we are a year away. This is a 3-4 loss team at this point. Obviously hope I’m wrong here, I just don’t see it. OL is a mess and the defensive scheme just isn’t going to stop people often enough in the Big 12. Even if we play our scheme well, the plays for opposing offenses are still there. Hoping we adjust. Looking at you Stoops brothers.
Boomer
What defense is going to stop us?
If our OL doesn’t improve? Maybe a few. Besides, averaging 35 against TT, WVU, OSU, Baylor, and TCU might not be enough to win a few of those.
You are definitely not a very confident fan. I can tell this team has an edge that didn’t exist last year. They weren’t all fired up Saturday but it’s 45-10 at half without the 2 fumbles.
I’m confident when I feel there’s a reason to be. Unfortunately I just don’t see it with this group. I’m with you on the edge though. I think our players do have a confidence that they may have lacked last year.
We need to move on from Whaley or at least offer the next best back. This OU RB U. Need a back in this next cycle.
We offered a running back last week bro
Too me, what really sucks is after all these years we still have the zombie genre.
Well, if they won’t just go away(as they should have once Romero perfected the genre), then I might as well join in with a well acted, terrifying scene.
https://youtu.be/9IlRAMIFt1w
What is this, a bye week or something? Good grief!
It’s a bye week, but since so many were venting on things that suck, thought I would make a contribution. 🙂
How about you combat the negativity with some Tots. Nothing like tots to make folks come together.
p.s., if you play nice, one of these times I’ll tell you my wife’s secret recipe for tator tot casserole. To die for!
…
http://gimmedelicious.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/tater-tot-enchilda-bake.jpg
Pick those little rubber tires off and I’m all over that.
I love black olives. They are brain food for men, both brains. 🙂
Ooh, that ranks up there with the tator tot nachos you had the other day!
If I hadn’t already had a great dinner this would make me hungry. 🙂
Please pass the insulin.
May I say that looks quite delectable. Until I saw this I was quite satisied with the dinner I had this evening. Now I’m not.
Good idea!
Freaky!
What is a RPO?
https://twitter.com/TheFbBrainiacs/status/646048447712202752
Run Pass Option.
Thanks.
Sorry Tex, had to refresh to see you were asking a question. Easton answered so I will just add….this is why these offenses are so hard to defend. There are options to every play that can change at the line depending on the defense they see. A defense has to be VERY deceptive in what they are doing to out smart the offense.
Montgomery/Briles have drawn up a ‘how to attack space’ offense. They do it extremely well. I hate it. A close watch of the game reveals that they just attack the weakness. With Baylor’s talent, thats a loss on Saturday. Edit: hopefully it turns out to be the preparation we need to overcome Baylor in November.
How would Baylor stop us?
Especially with their defense this year.
They’ll struggle to hopefully.
We were two fumbles away from a first half blow out. Without those fumbles we very well could have been up 45-3..think about that for a minute
I think that is the most critical thing when going against a fast spread. You have to drive the field and limit their possessions. It’s not about shutting down, rather slow them, steal from them, and out score them.
Yep. If we can put some Perine on them (4th quarter run after run)in the second half we win…obviously because we will have a lead already then keeping their D on the filed while our guys rest…TOs suck the life out of a defense and you could see it happen saturday
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Good kick JD, but the game happened, we fumbled, and were up by seven at half.
yep it did and if it doesn’t against Baylor you will be happy…no…Im sure theres always something to bitch about
JD. Write a blog, get it out. Don’t bring that bs to me. Take it to someone who wants a fight.
Hey Buddy good idea..you can write a blog about how Mike sucks and Baylor is going to beat us with their talent….,D
You got it JD. That’ll be all between you and I.
But…but…big ol’BUT…I thought the problem was our players suck and our coaches suck and the universe sucks.
Thanks for your concise and lucid response.
EasTex, I have a bone to pick with you: you witness this whoa is me piss party and left us to fend for ourselves. I was struggling, my man. LOL!
I’m too old to play with children for very long. 🙂
LMAO
He was the only smart one of the bunch.
I just take them to a park and let them run all that energy out.
The universe does suck. Black holes, you know.
Not only that, it’s a vacuum.
Then how come my carpet is never clean?
You must have dirty soles.(?) 🙂
Clean soles, dirty mind. I’m begining to thnk I shouldn’t have paid an extra $500 for the “self-cleaning” carpet.
I saw stretch and bunch, stretch and bunch over and over. Its like Montgomery is literally using physics to defeat a defense. Middle run, pass wide, middle run, pass wide. TEMPO nine route! TD.
And yet, they only scored one TD in the 3rd qtr and one in the 4th qtr with about 3 minutes left.
The coaches and players did something right the second half.
but, but, but…
Wow. This board has become more divided than it was. Antagonize away. I don’t play that game.
But where is the big ol’BUT? 🙂
Mike is improving. I think Cooks and Diron help the cause. Kish has his group ready to go as well.
In the right alignment the LB’s are nasty.
The best tackling I’ve seen. Alexander and Evans are violent on the field.
Hatari Byrd was the leading tackler in this game, which I found fascinating.
As did I.
Something about rolling out cloud coverage
Really? Looked like a bright, sunny day on the tv. ;-]
They may have racked up some yards and got some lucky breaks at the end of the 2nd qtr, but the youth filled defense acquitted itself pretty well, IMHO.
completely agree
And really, the two turnovers the offense had amounted to a 28 point swing. Or worse case scenario a 20 point swing (if we kick field goals).
Mike has made some great adjustments after halftime in every game so far…This time he’ll have several weeks to adjust before he sees this offense again. He may put together the best game plan against this offense we’ve seen from anybody yet.
There’s a weakness, it hasn’t been discovered, but there’s a weakness to this Baylor’s offense.
I read this book by Malcolm Gladwell; it’s a good read:
Three thousand years ago on a battlefield in ancient Palestine, a shepherd boy felled a mighty warrior with nothing more than a pebble and a sling-and ever since, the names of David and Goliath have stood for battles between underdogs and giants. David’s victory was improbable and miraculous. He shouldn’t have won.
Or should he?
David and Goliath employs individual case studies and comparison to provide a wide range of examples where perceived major disadvantages in fact turn out to be the keys to the underdog Davids’ triumph against Goliath-like opponents or situations. In one arc, Gladwell cites various seeming afflictions that may in fact have significantly contributed to success, linking dyslexia with the high-flying career of lawyer David Boies, and the loss of a parent at an early age with the exceptional research work of oncologist Emil J. Freireich. These anecdotal lessons are anchored by references to research in the social sciences.
Read that book myself. Have it at my office.
Great read and so true. It works if you have the mental strength.
Gladwell came [back] to following Christ while writing that book.
Really?
I can see him as some one who could get lost in his own thinking. He’s too practical. He wants everything to makes sense.
Understanding God doesn’t allow for that.
Yeah; pretty awesome. That describes why he stopped believing for a period of time.
Exactly. Did you read “The Tipping Point” and “Blink”?
Are you fellas familiar with Francis Collins?
http://christianevidence.org/science/page/dna_is_the_language_of_god
I am not but I will check it out.
An amazing man.
That was a good read. Very interesting. How did you come to find out about him?
I came across his story back in 2011 and blogged about him.
That is good, thank you.
Welcome.
I agree with him, who better to observe closely what God has given us.
Strangely enough, I did not read those; really made his name and craft known as special with those two.
Must reads. Start with Tipping Point.
Thanks Sam. You’re right, will do eventually.
Arnold once said that people with happy childhoods are oftentimes less driven and ambitious because they don’t spend their life trying to achieve and fill that void in their life. I think there is something to that, with exceptions, of course.
If you haven’t read this book, do yourself a favor. I’m reading it for the second time.
RPO doesn’t just change at the line. It’s a post-snap decision that reads what the defense actually does at the start of the play, not what they show pre-snap.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/8/20/6044003/read-option-pass-play-football-xs-os-diagrams
Watching tonight’s MNF game makes me an even bigger college football fan. Halftime. I’m going to rumble aorund the freezer and see if there are any tater tots buried in there.
I’m watching some old episodes of Fantomworks on Velocity and thinking about those Braum’s Fudgcicles in the freezer.
I’m watching Everybody Loves Raymond, King of Queens next. Have seen them all a million times. I don’t gamble and aren’t a fan of either team so just can’t make myself watch.
I’m reading TFB, is there a game on?
That will leave a bad taste in your mouth. The NFL is a joke to me. There is very little passion involved. That is why I love college football.
The best way to stop Baylor imo is to play 2 high safeties at all times with the safeties supporting the CB’s with the outside receivers. That way they cant go deep on you.
Then just hope your Dline and LB’s can stop the run. I’d rather they try to run us to death than throw us to death. We have a deep Dline that can rotate out if tired.
But dont bring the Safeties into the box to help with the run. Just leave them up high especially more with the outside receivers.
Who covers the other three receivers?
We will be playing dime and quarter all game.. don’t know why he mentions linebackers in his post
We’re only going to have a nose guard and two corners, everyone else is a safety……that’ll show’em.
Creative, that’s the ticket.
The best way to stop Baylor is to press charges.
RR, you’re a funny man. Arrest them all.
And all twelve of their fans.
And that gaggle of gangly freshmen that flood the field each home game.
Dang straight. If only for being so goofy.
And visible. :-0
LOL! That’s a good one.
I don’t know, it’s been done before and doesn’t work.
Cue Erin Brockovich.
haha.
The best way to stop Baylor is to have another Brian Bosworth or two.
LOL!
beat them with a stick while the are asleep would work too
The deeper you send the safeties in 2 hight, the middle of the field opens up with crossing routes putting your lbs in a bind to read PA/run. right?
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Briles has something to do with this. 🙂
Looking at seven sec games in the 3 to 6 viewing times, I think we know who is most culpable.
It’s hard for his son-in-law to be in two places at once.
He’s the magic man….now you see me….now you don’t.
I have a wedding to attend.
As long as it’s Greek. 🙂
Deal!
So, checking that weekends schedule, Texsa vs tcu at 11, baylor vs taco tech at the Death Star is on at 2:30p.m. on espn. At 3p.m. we have KSt at Stoolwater on FS1, and no other Big 12 games on any channel after that.
I think Fox is afraid to go up against prime time sec games. If OU was to become the flagship of the conference and ranked in the top five again, I think they would put us in a tougher tv ratings spot. But what do I know, I’m not a tv executive.
So the huge ratings for the game with the vols was due to so much interest in…the vols? The execs at Fox need to grow some yarbles.
I know, doesn’t make sense. I read on another site that OU brings in good ratings for Fox in that time slot but come on, we can’t be the only option for 11:00.
Seriously, KSt and Stoolwater at 3p.m.?
Or that! LOL! I guess I should have read one more comment before I ran my mouth. But I’ve always been good at running my mouth.
Wasn’t the OU/Tenn game the highest rated E$PN football game in the last 5 years? I do believe that is what I read.
You may recall, but several years back they were shoving the 11 o’clock game down our throat every week until BS and JC spoke up about it. Not only is it harder on the players, but the stadium never fills up until after kick off on those games and it’s bad for business in Norman.
We had a whole bunch of them last year, too.
It’s also worth mentioning that it kills our viewership on the west coast too.
Not to mention that Sugers isn’t open before the game. It messes with the pre-game ritual.
What happened to the 2:30 or 3PM kickoffs? They either want the Sooners on at 11 freaking AM or at 8PM… I remember growing up, I could get done with lunch get on the tractor and listen to the game on the radio in the middle of the afternoon. UGH!
Exactly.
have heard several times that the norman merchants are getting hit by the 11am’s
I heard complaints about the fans not being loud enough last weekend…..what do they expect when people climb out of bed to go to the game?
I hate 11am’s just b/c it’s too early for football and most any sport ……not in the mood yet and that’s for tv,……….way back going with my dad to the games ko’s were at 130p almost exclusively
I hate cracking open a drink before noon…..don’t get me wrong, I’ll do it, just hate it a little at first. 🙂
not your fault, you were forced
Do like me. I’m on Eastern time!
Hey Gary, what are you doing on Eastearn time? You’re supposed to be holding things down on the hill.
I live in Maui which means 6am kick off time. Since I don’t get Fox Sports 1 I have to do a predawn road trip to see the 11am central games.
Bloody Mary’s…is one way to go…
Yeah, the Mary is good way to ease into the morning.
At first.
Its “only” a 2 hr drive for me from the south, but then you figure all of the road construction, traffic & parking.., I left at 6:30 & still was only at the concession area about 1020 ( and I park IN the stadium garage) walked up to my seats as the band was playing Oklahoma. So those complaining about people walking in after kickoff can try to do a little better 🙂
Is it too late to reschedule the kickoff time?
I don’t know, but it would seem they etch those schedules in stone and not pixels.
Ha! Ha!
ut will probably be 11 also and won’t be the last one
I was considering going to this game, but not now. I live too far away to get in the night before and make it in the stadium by 11:00. I could do it, but it just sucks the fun out of it.
Looks like Georgia does not have Whaley as there #1 back they want
Farewell
The Texsa-Cal game is on til 11(Fox College Sports Central, think I will turn it on at 1045 to see the finale.
from os, how it was way back……….
“Here’s how it was back in about 1965. ABC game of the week. Notre Dame at Michigan State at 1:30 PM. Take it or leave it. Before the game, Bud Wilkinson would use his wooden pieces to show everyone the Sparty and Irish offense/defense. Then the game. The entire band halftime show was telecast; sometimes part of the pregame. Then all the scores around the country which meant every game such as “in the east-Dartmouth 28, Cornell 14; Slippery Rock 32, Indiana of Pennsylvania 21″
And every game around the nation began about 1:30-2:00 in the afternoon. Ah, the good ole days.”
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At one time some were considering DW a lock for us, even a silent committ. Was that false info, or did something happen, other than a trip to Ga?
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