2015 Fall Camp Preview | Safety

Image of Kahlil Haughton via Scout.com

Fall camp officially kicks off tomorrow afternoon with team officially reporting and then the first day of practice set for Thursday. Last week I previewed the cornerback position, and now we’ll continue this preview series with the back half of the OU secondary.

For the Sooners to be successful this year, they have to get better production out of the safety position. Among other things, the big plays due to miscommunication and assignment errors have to end. Additionally, they have to get more range out of the deep safety spot.

Antoine Stephens – I’m going to begin with freshman DB Antoine Stephens, because I inadvertently left him off my cornerback list. Stephens is currently being started out at corner, though with his size don’t be surprised if he eventually transitions to a nickel or safety position. Stephens only started playing CB his senior year, so he is a little behind in terms of development. But he is a big athlete who demonstrated a lot of physicality in high school. Stephens will need some time so I expect him to redshirt, giving him that time to get stronger and continue developing his technique.

Steven Parker – I would wager that if you could ask Kerry Cooks what player at the safety position he is most excited about, he’d answer, without hesitation, Steven Parker. As a true freshman last year Parker certainly wasn’t perfect, but you could clearly see that high ceiling so many projected for him coming out of Jenks.

With that 2014 season under his belt and full offseason in the film room, I’m fully expecting a majority of those freshman mental errors to be cleaned up this coming season. Parker is a fantastic cover safety, who is also a quick trigger that can make plays in the run game. And he’s also shown an ability to blitz off the edge.

In OU’s base defense Paker should be all but a lock to be the starting strong safety. And as Stoops has mentioned several times in recent weeks, when OU shifts to a more DB heavy look, Parker will move over to the nickel back spot.

Ahmad Thomas – Last year Thomas played primarily at the free safety position with somewhat mixed results. In a Cover-3/Man-1 base scheme, which I expect OU to continue to play, you need a lot of range. You need a long, rangy deep safety who can read the play quickly and can get over the top in a hurry to help wherever he is needed. I’m reasonably confident Thomas knows what he’s supposed to do, but I just don’t see the free safety spot as a natural fit for him.

As of now it’s my understanding that in OU’s nickel package, Thomas is playing strong safety. However in their base defense, he is still playing in that free safety position. At the SS spot you can limit how much he’s put into man situations with inside WRs against 10-personnel by playing more Cover-3. But if he is going to play free safety…hopefully he’s made a big jump in terms of his ability to react quickly in order to provide the help needed.

Hatari Byrd – Byrd played some free safety last year and flashed at times, but also showed up too early at times as well. I’ve always got the impression from folks behind the scenes that Byrd has some good physical tools, but it’s his consistency within the scheme and ability to understand both safety assignments that have seemingly held him back to this point.

I’ve been told by sources that, as it stands right now, Byrd would move in to play free safety in the nickel package. However, in the base package I expect he will continue to battle with Thomas for that starting free safety spot well into fall camp.

Prentice McKinney – McKinney’s name has been mentioned by coaches a few times throughout the summer. When I’ve asked around about him, I’ve been told that he is an exceptional worker. He’s a player who, at a young age, is staying after practice/workouts and putting in extra work with the support staff.

As a player, I’m told he knows his assignments in 7-on-7 and rarely gets beat. I don’t get the sense he’s making a ton of plays necessarily, but I do get the sense he’s demonstrating consistency to his teammates and the coaches. I’m told McKinney rotates in at both safety spots in 7-on-7, so at this point I couldn’t really say which specific safety position he projects at.

But I will say this. Based on past history, players that can learn the defense usually have a good chance to see the field.

Will Sunderland – I have been told this summer that Sunderland has been rotating in primarily at the free safety position, but other than that I haven’t heard a great deal about him thus far. The two things that concerned me most about Sunderland coming out of high school, however, were (1) his ability to get in-and-out of his breaks and (2) his ability to understand the defense/diagnose the opposing offense.

That said, I get the sense from talking with folks that Sunderland is making strides in both respects. But may still need some time to really get comfortable understanding his assignment within the defense as opposed to just acting on instinct.

Kahlil Haughton – I’m saving the best for last. I know the talk we’ve heard (what little of it we’re allowed) from OU coaches thus far mostly been about McKinney — and I was a fan of his in high school and certainly also like what I’m hearing behind the scenes — but I stand by my prediction from last year regarding Haughton being the best safety prospect in this 2015 class.

And while I’ve yet to really see/hear the coaches say it publicly, I’m told that behind the scenes they’ve been very impressed with Haughton thus far. Which makes sense considering he is everything you would want in a safety. He is sharp, violent, play-maker that has better speed than almost every other DB (including the cornerbacks).

Haughton has been rotating in at both nickel and strong safety during summer workouts. My guess is the coaches will actually have him play both FS and SS in fall camp to see how he adapts to each. If I were Thomas and/or Byrd, this is the guy I’d be looking at over my shoulder.

247 Comments

  • Patvan says:

    First

  • hOUligan says:

    !st runner-up!!

  • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

    Bring on the violence!

  • KJ1123 says:

    I think as a whole, this is the defenses best group. I hear they all work hard and have their heads on straight.

  • hOUligan says:

    A needed infusion of talent. Like what you said about McKinney and it holds true for all these guys. Don’t ‘need’ spectacular play/plays, just consistency in the back end. Once they get comfortable, the big plays are going to occur.

  • Randy says:

    Thomas and Byrd.. Jury still out on Parker. This is why I am ok with playing 4 LBs most of the time.. Even vs Baylor some they are so physical up front if our CBs get beat it is usually a big play anyway.. Take away the run totally and get to the QB with the best group you have which are the LBs.. I do like and have Haughton you could see his range and ability to diagnose a play quickly (like Jefferson and Pool recently) but he is still a True Freshman.

    • Indy_sooner says:

      I think you have that backwards, Parker has shown me more in one year than both of the other two have done in two…no disrespect to either. Obligatory IMO as well

      • hemisooner says:

        I agree. Thomas is sure tackler I guess but his coverage skill is different story. Hopefully a full year and a new coach can change that

      • Randy says:

        Parker has a chance to show something this year but not counting it till we see it. I expected Thomas and Byrd to play good last year as true Sophmores (and Thomas was a early enrollee is FR year) and they didn’t so if Parker does that is great we need him too.

  • soonermusic says:

    This is excellent again, Super K. Thanks.

    I think your comment about “players that can learn the defense” is key. It seems to me that some guys are able to overcome some mental errors due to sheer speed or athleticism, others are able to play at a higher level than their pure athleticism might suggest due to mental sharpness and ability to understand, read, and anticipate. In both cases experience is a huge factor. I remain optimistic that it will make a big difference this season.

    • Bob Edwards says:

      I don’t think most people realize how much difference having a quick mind plays into the concept of “football speed.” For instance, for a DB who is backpedaling and has to recognize a play in front of him, every tenth of a second in reaction time is worth about two yards on the field. That’s the difference between a 4.4 and a 4.6 in a 40 yard dash.

  • Brandon says:

    Great info appreciate all you all do on this site.

  • Will Narramore says:

    You think Sunderland redshirts and Mckinney gets blowout duty/special teams work? Huaghton, Byrd, Thomas, and Parker rotating the 2 safety spots?

  • Bob Edwards says:

    Good stuff K. This is the kind of stuff that I would pay to read. The fact that you give it out for free is great.

  • Sooner 4Ever says:

    Fourteenth

  • Jason Vos says:

    Is there any reason why a CB like Mbanasor cant play the NB spot, and leave Parker at safety the whole time

    • Zack says:

      This is what I wondered all last year. Why not play a nickel corner instead of a nickel safety?

      • Jason Vos says:

        Exactly, why does it have to be a safety playing the NB spot. I would think if you need an extra DB on the field to cover the pass you would want to play a CB

      • Matt says:

        I’m thinking in obvious passing situations they will. In the past they’ve used the safety-nickel or “Roybacker” as its been called on running downs against the heavy passing teams and then switched to a 3rd corner on obvious passing downs. In my understanding thats what K. Everett, J. Wilson and G. Lynn all were at different times in their career before Lynn moved to a true safety and Wilson to an outside corner spot.

    • Exiled In Ohio says:

      Great question, Jason!

    • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

      If we played a third corner as the .05, then a team could put that player in a run-pass conflict. The corner could handle the man coverage, for example, but would also need to help in the run game and be a good tackler. Perhaps Mbanasor could do that.

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      Do we have to play A Thomas?

  • metzker says:

    Talent Talent and more Talent nice job K

  • Cush Creekmont says:

    Nice work (as usual) Super K. I do hope as the D-coaches search for the right safeties combo that there are enough reps for the eventual starters to be cohesive.

  • Walter Sobcek says:

    Perhaps having the entire secondary under the auspices of one coach, as it will be this year, will help eliminate the confusion and assignment busts.

  • Glocal Sooner says:

    This type of info is exactly why this is the best website on the internet!!!

    • paganpink says:

      Yep! And worth every penny! It would be better then the rest even if they did charge, of course!

  • rphokc says:

    sk……when do you think there will be an oline/dline report…….thxs

  • Boom says:

    I wish Haughton enrolled early. I think back to the 08 Florida safeties and geez, they were fast and physical. This year the safeties will be better but there is a lot of improvement ahead of them. My hope is Parker will take on the leadership role and become that play maker we’ve missed for some time. The better they are, the better we will be.

  • Philip Capeheart says:

    You guys better pick up the pace, it’ll be October before you get through all the positions. In all seriousness this is a great feature, really look forward to these posts.

  • Matt says:

    The solution to the secondary is not “one coach, one room.” They had that in the past and the secondary still wasn’t much better. The solution is that the coach has changed
    completely and that the players will have more experience.

  • Okie80 says:

    What’s the odds Dalton Woods shows up to camp ?

    • rphokc says:

      thxs……..that wasn’t up earlier today……….now you’ve entered the preseason

  • KJ1123 says:

    Fall Camp = Time to put up or shut up. I hope you enjoyed your stars and ranking freshmen because that all goes away starting now!

    *just a little pumped that camp is finally here and we can stop talking hypothetically

  • Daryl says:

    K, can you help me out. My understanding from back in my day was that FS generally was you last defense for the DB’s This was a guy that had to be smart, read plays, and be able to cover a ton of field quickly when LBs, CB’s or other safeties got beat. Obviously in CFB they use everyone in very different ways in order to keep the offense guessing, but in general is this still what a FS does. IF so why are our huge what seem to be slower safties playing at FS rather than strong. Am I crazy to think that Parker should be playing at FS rather than SS? Do have poor understanding of the positions?

    • Zack says:

      Daryl this was my understanding as well. The free safety is IMO supposed to be the guy who can cover the most field ie polamalu or Ed reed. A guy that just makes plays everywhere. Whereas the SS is a guy who just doesn’t bust in coverage and is good in run support.
      I agree there’s probably more sophistication than I understand but that’s the way I’ve always pictured those positions.

      By the way I would probably move Parker to SS and will Johnson to free

      • hemisooner says:

        I would just play Haughton at FS and Parker at SS. Not sold on Thomas’s range. Byrd has the athletic ability but the light just hasn’t caught on. I like Johnson as the NB.

    • Super K says:

      Not you don’t have poor understanding at all. Your FS is a base cover 1 defense is indeed a guy who is going to roam the backfield, read the play and hopefully have the range to assist wherever needed. But the SS in this day and time may be the most difficult position on the field. The SS against spread attacks is regularly forced to play man to man in a cover 1 base defense. He’s also a guy that makes calls. He’s also a guy that you may want to bring pressure with. You’re also going to at times rotate your coverage so he may be in a position in a cover 3 rotation to have to play deep middle as well. He also needs some in the box skills since he will play the down safety position. The SS has a lot of responsibilities. I think your FS needs to be smart, rangy and physical. Everyone remembers Major Wright helping deep in the OU Florida game and laying Manny out. Ahmad Thomas attempted to do the same thing last year in the Tech game. Unfortunately, he laid JT out instead. His range and reaction need to improve. I get the sense that Byrd has the range but again they aren’t playing cover 1 every down so he has to understand his various assignments.

      • Brandon says:

        How would you feel about Byrd, Haughton, and Parker Starting at both safeties and the nickel? Would this potentially be our best lineup or does Haughton have to much to learn to play right away?

      • Daryl says:

        This very helpful. Makes sense about the spread and what that does to the SS position. I didn’t realize that the SS makes the calls for the secondary.

        It is crazy how the basics of the game will forever be the same, but at the same time there have been some real seismic shifts in the way it is played out.

        Thanks for the reply K.

      • hOUligan says:

        Great stuff, SK. Did you ever get a tutorial piece put together for all of these defenses: cover 1, cover 2, cover 3 and respective responsibilities? Been a long time and the nomenclature has changed along with responsibilities. Tnx!

      • Randy says:

        This is what frustrates me about moving Wilson to CB and Hayes being moved some to NB we had the guys last year and instead made 3 problems instead of working a young CB (we know JT now) in..

        • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

          I always thought Julian was a safety. He had immense straight-line speed. Maybe, just maybe, he was a bit less than optimal on the stop-change of direction-run, and he played a bit high. Typically, he would raise up too early just before the receiver would make their final breaks.

    • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

      What @SuperKBrainiac:disqus said.

      http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1389027/seahawks2.gif

  • Indy_sooner says:

    Re: Haughton- My second fav DB after PJ from last year, I was stoked when we got him from Baylor’s backyard but this is really lofty praise * best safety prospect in this 2015 class.*

    • Zack says:

      I agree. I liked Marvell tell a lot as the best safety from last year but as far as when they found haughton he was severely underrated. The potential is there I just don’t know if I see future 1st round pick potential just yet.

      • Tucker says:

        I was curious if K mean best in the overall class, or best in OU’s class.

      • Indy_sooner says:

        Absolutely. No way the rankings did him any kind of justice. Alot like Samaje, no flash but you know the kid will bring home the bacon in bucketfuls

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    I can’t wait to see if these guys improve.

  • Guest says:

    Thanks for the progress notes. I’m like you: most excited about Haughton and Parker.

    My question: have you heard of what specific scheme changes Cooks will be implementing? Last years confusion cost us games and was very frustrating

  • EasTex says:

    Always appreciate the insights on the Sooners.
    As for Haughton, I would recognize that bright face and huge smile anytime.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      A guy that happy comes from a good family with a lot faith in Jesus

      • Jed says:

        Is it a digital kind of thing? Or analog? I mean, if his faith is pretty solid, but he has, from time to time, doubts; does he have kind of a smirk? And no faith at all would result in a frown? How about a guy with solid faith in the Buddha? Smiling but in an alien way? And what of a Jew or Muslim? Same Abrahamic God, but not so down with Jesus. What facial expression would that produce? Inquiring minds and all that….
        And before you get ticked, this was offered in a loving and friendly way.

      • EasTex says:

        I remember the photo of him with his Mom when he committed. You could see the beaming face and broad smile was a family trait.

    • hOUligan says:

      Seems as though there was some reference to Haughton as the ‘smiling assassin’ due to the violence of some of his hits as counterpoint to his beguiling smile. Hope to see that smile a lot following some big hits and INTs.

      • EasTex says:

        His smile is so brilliant, it will shine through the face mask after he knocks the stuffing out of a WR.

  • Slim Sooner says:

    Good stuff, Super K. Thanks for these position breakdowns. Getting me pumped because I believe we’ll be improved significantly in this area this year and in the future.

  • Perry Dickey says:

    When the 1st game starts I will immediately judge where we are as a defense if a certain player is the free safety.

    • BoomerDave says:

      Glad your so quick to give up on kids. Many can improve with proper coaching. Case in point—Trevonne Boykin.

      • Soonerfandave84 says:

        He meant if he sees me out there, and if he does OU has no shot.

      • Perry Dickey says:

        You would have a great point if it was a quick point. I’ve scoured my DVR for one positive play from this guy. Much time wanting to find something. Most every time he was involved in the picture it was walking up after, after the play was over. To your point I’m not giving up or giving in as I am very aware my opinion hasn’t a chance in the universe of changing anything about how the defense does.

        • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

          Excellent. Your point is meaningless because it’s independent of the defense. Glad we got that clarified.

        • SamSooner says:

          You’ve said a lot of nothing. Next time, keep that thought to yourself, keep it quiet: it would have spared you some ridicule. We just met, but I’ve given up on you.

      • Zack says:

        It’s great when some believe a player can’t get better. You can’t tell me Michigan fans are saying wtf about Brady having 4 Super Bowls. He wasn’t that good in college to my knowledge. And I’m sure there’s 1000 other guys that had horrible years early in college and turned out to be good players by the time they made it to the NFL

  • rphokc says:

    ……?…….did this ‘ou dna’ thing replace the ‘bring the wood’

  • SamSooner says:

    EasTex, my man, I took your advice and stopped at the Omelettry this morning for breakfast. I had the ginger pancakes with eggs and sausage.

    Great recommendation.
    Thanks!

  • EasTex says:

    Just watched the OU Caravan feature on SoonersportsTV. Looked like a good event and lots of fun, the coaches were excellent.
    At the end of the event when all the coaches stood from their chairs I watched to see how Coach Stoops would do after the hip replacement. I was pleased to see he stood without any difficulty and turned and walked as though he never had a problem. I am glad to see that and the fact that he no longer has the pain he has been living with for years. His activity and energy levels should be much higher.

    • soonerbred4ever says:

      EasTex I had my hip done at Baylor Uptown last year and was back driving in 23 days. Dr J. Mac Lancaster, former Tulsa Hurricane defensive end and academic all-american, did mine. He did the frontal {anterior} method, left a 4″ scar and I was up and walking the same day. I would guess Bob probably had the same procedure.

      • EasTex says:

        Glad that went well for you, they run a great facility at Baylor.
        I have no way of knowing what exactly he had done, he was hobbling with a cane for a while and recently reported that all the tightness from the rehab had dissipated.
        You would know better than me how much better he must feel having had that procedure done.

  • Stephen says:

    DE Austin Roberts is not reporting because of a transcript issue at Adams State, where he took the 2 online classes. Apparently they have not sent his grades (2 B’s) to NEO or OU thus he cannot report. He will stay in Georgia until transcripts are sent, per Eric Bailey

  • KJ1123 says:

    I’m willing to bet that, even though camp is only a few hours old, there have already been some shake ups in the roster. It’ll be an interesting camp.

  • Sooner born, Sooner bred says:

    Wow! Super K, never cease to amaze with the great information. I’m getting the feeling that everyone involved with the football program is really motivated and stepping up their game to another level. Expecting big things this year…….”no pressure Coach Stoops”. Damn it’s hot out. Come on fall and Sooner football! OU☝

  • Stephen says:

    According to NewsOK or the Oklahoman today, the Sooners will be using temporary facilities this season? Has anyone else heard about this? Are they doing something to the stadium?

  • Chas Taylor says:

    Does anyone have any kind of idea or theory why Dalton Wood is absent and not communicating with anyone?

    • rphokc says:

      cliff notes?…..gf knocked up and he ain’t coming

      • Zack says:

        It’s sad you would think that would motivate him to make sure he takes full advantage of a full education at a good school. But he is 18 and I’m not going to pretend I know what’s best for him.

        • EasTex says:

          Whatever his situation I hope it works out for him.
          Most of us older guys know that what regrets we have are more for the things we should have done and not the things we have done.

        • rphokc says:

          yeah, if I remember correctly, he grew up bleeding crimson, got his dream offer, the family is excited…….then it heads south……..but, as a poster noted, if his heart wasn’t in it he might have quit down the road, so, a scholly was freed up to use now……….good luck to him

    • KJ1123 says:

      He left the team back in June. People wanted to speculate and what not that he was coming back and he didnt have to report till fall, but it was already final. He hasnt talked to any OU staff since. The reason? Its complicated.

  • Timber Moore says:

    Anyone heard anything about Dallis Todd? I’m sure you’ll let us know when the WR write up comes out. But I’m just curious. Haven’t heard his name all off season..

  • Jesse says:

    Is there still the possibility of the good news? Haven’t heard much since the tweet but with that being said I appreciate you guys this site is honestly the best!

    • Doobie74OU says:

      I asked on Monday afternoon I think and Jordon said they still expected it this week at that point in time, but with recruiting things change quickly I guess. I’m hopeful until I hear otherwise!

      • Jesse says:

        That’s true recruiting can change so quick. Thanks for the answer and I’m hopeful too! Who or what do you think it’s about?

        • Doobie74OU says:

          It has to be about somebody verbally committing based on the other texts that K has teased with, but go no idea who at this point. I figure if it was big enough to get K to tease it then it will probably be really good!

  • Zack says:

    It’s good to see these 2 hanging out. In a year or two we will need them to be leaders

  • EasTex says:

    Watching the 2002 Sooner vs Mizzery game on Fox Sports Central.

  • Bob Edwards says:

    It’s like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

    https://twitter.com/mctait/status/629043745288163329

    • Zack says:

      I wonder if they will find a power conference in 10 years. They’re good at basketball but they are embarrassingly bad as a football program. They run off the best coach they ever had because he’s a hard ass and I heard a lot of it had to do with his image. Just dumb.

      • JD says:

        Yeah Mangio was the best they’ve had…what did he go 10-2 with a orange bowl win…granted that still isn’t OU good (two losses here will get you on the hot seat lol)…but it doesn’t get any better than that for KU

    • rphokc says:

      geez, are they going to have a 2 deep?………..get your season tickets while you can

      • Bob Edwards says:

        They will probably start giving them away just to get people to come. Though, if they are like most universities these days, they will come up with some scheme to force the students to buy them.

        • rphokc says:

          it’s sad, b/c at times over the yrs, ku was pretty salty at fb but they couldn’t maintain it………..ksu was similar but they got snyder and a big benefactor and it turned around

    • EasTex says:

      By the last count they had 61 scholarship players, now 59?
      Oh my!

    • Dustin says:

      They’re almost the Fighting Armadillos. Not much longer until they’re forced to play iron man football. Does Andre Krimm have any eligibility left?

    • Boom says:

      There is more players on the basketball team than the football.

  • Jason Vos says:

    Watch out for Cody Thomas, hearing some good things. Arm Strength playing a role

  • Ryan says:

    I’ve been waiting on this one! Safety position is by far the one I am most concerned about heading into the season. Parker had his problems last year, but I think the experience and offseason should do him well. I see him being solid. But the other spot is where I am most worried. I became so fed up with Thomas last season. Felt like he was frequently out of position and when he was in position, he didn’t make the play. Byrd showed me a few encouraging signs but also seemed to not make the play even when he was in position (is it just me or does he have really bad hands?). I like that we seemed to recruit well at the position this offseason and I really hope one of the new guys bursts onto the scene and has a Tony Jefferson like freshman season. Tony was special tho, so I don’t expect that lol. I guess the best thing i can hope for is massive improvement from Thomas because I feel like he will probably start week 1. I think Sanchez called him the best safety in the country on twitter the other day so hey, maybe I’ll eat some crow :)…. good job on the breakdown Super K! Boomer Sooner to you all!

  • Fear The Magic says:

    Just thought I’d add this link

    Other than #1 they got it right.

    http://fansided.com/2014/10/18/50-greatest-college-football-programs-time-statistically-ranked/

    • Cush Creekmont says:

      47 Straight – usc did NOT do that. Of the top 5, I think Mich is still over-rated. Go back farther and Harvard makes the top. In the Modern Era, ND is better than Mich. OU, USC, Alabama, ND clearly the top.

    • KJ1123 says:

      Just looked at the top 5 only, I’d agree with that.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Are we going to get updates on the position battles from TFB?