4 Scores and 7 Downs Ago…A Quick Look At Lincoln Riley

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*Ed. Note – So even though this is listed as authored by ‘The Brainiacs’, it was actually written by Gabriel Alcocer. Who is a friend of TFB and kind enough to share with us his insight into some of what OU’s new offensive coordinator, Lincoln Riley, has done in the past and perhaps some of what OU fans can expect to see in 2015.

What’s up y’all!? This post is intended to provide a quick and dirty look at OU’s new offensive coordinator, Lincoln Riley. What you’ll see below are embedded draftbreakdown.com videos of Justin Hardy vs USCe and UF, two semi-powerful SEC foes. I included these two games mainly because it showed how Riley’s offense performed against defensive units that may have had more talented personnel than ECU’s own. Of course, that’s certainly up for debate as the ECU offense was able to move the ball very well against a schedule that included the above two teams, as well as Bud Foster’s famed Va Tech defensive unit.

Also, if you’re not familiar with this format, let me explain. I’m terrible at editing and embedding video and have limited time. Instead, I like to take notes about what I’m seeing and then discuss them in general terms. You can watch the videos before and/or after the descriptions. Let’s get started.

I became familiar with Lincoln Riley’s offense last year, when he was rumored to be a candidate at Texas. Lincoln’s offense strikes me as a coherent and integrative approach to combining classic “Air Raid” concepts to the run, play-action, and read-option game. The pass game integrates with the run game in that the base zone and power (gap) schemes are primarily utilized in the read-option, play-action, and quarterback movement game. This can be a headache for defensive players as the majority of standard down and distance plays will all appear the same, especially if keying on OL steps and/or movement.

Adding to that, I was surprised how ‘multiple’ the offense can be. I noted personnel that ranged from “20” (2 RB, 0 TE), empty, to “12” (1 RB, 2 TE). With regard to formations, it ranged from your typical 2 X 2 spread set to I-formation alignments with the QB under center. Base runs include zone (inside, outside, slice, and lead) and a Power-style gap scheme with the backside guard pulling around the center and leading into the A-gap. The beauty of those schemes are that they tend to be excellent for use in read-option and play-action. As far as the pass game is concerned, you may note shallow crossing routes (good versus man coverage), deep crossing routes (think Y-Sail), a lot of flat combination routes (slant-flat, curl-flat), deep out routes, and of course 4-verticals, some of which contain option routes like seam-read. So, let’s watch some football.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwGfmRpOwAQ

What stands out most to me from the USCe video are the packaged plays. Many quick-game pass concepts will be paired to base run schemes with the read player being one of the linebackers, i.e. 2nd-level reads. What I really like about read-integrated offenses is that the consistent alignment and QB/RB mesh gives the defense the same look without tipping a read, or more traditional play-action concept. Of course, these will tend to be quick-to-intermediate level passing concepts paired with base run schemes.

When Riley wants to attack deep, he’ll change the mesh and the QB will take more steps on his drop. Also notable, I like that some traditional bootleg concepts are adapted to the shotgun alignment. These often help to manipulate the linebackers with run action one way, while bringing a crossing route behind them the opposite way. A couple of plays that stood out in this video are the delayed wide receiver screen paired with run-action at 1:30, and the packaged double screen at 2:16, a wide receiver screen paired with a running back slow-screen. Also note the offensive line releases and blocking, well designed and coached.

These constraint plays need to be well-coached and executed with attention to detail. They serve to protect the offense’s base concepts as well as punish defensive over-play. Let’s move on to the Florida game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgzp2WrS3a8

In this game we see a bit more multiplicity. For instance, the use of the I-formation in short yardage. It’s good to see a spread football coordinator carry this set in his overall approach, a contingency often lacking in spread offenses.

At 0:43 you’ll see ‘Spot’ paired with a quarterback sweep. This is another 2nd-level read on the linebacker, who opens to take away the quick-game pass concept. So the quarterback simply pulls it down and follows his pulling lineman on the backside, again, well-conceived.

A lot of this is made possible by Riley’s understanding of basic defensive assignments, as well as how formations distort defensive structures. At 4:01 you’ll see a play, I don’t even know what to call, out of a split-back shotgun formation, the left guard and tackle pull, lead around the center through the A-gap, while the “fullback” arc blocks the unblocked defensive end. What I suspect here is the end is the read man and if he attacks the running back, he will be bypassed by the arc blocker and the quarterback will keep it and have a lead blocker on the backside of the play, another well-conceived play. What do you call it though?!?

Speaking of the split-back shotgun formation, Riley will utilize this — as opposed to the diamond formation — to create favorable match-ups outside and/or in the box. Depending on the safety look, 1-high or 2-high, the quarterback can easily check into a read-run or pass. Another motif I liked is the movement of the TE, specifically, motioning him out wide. Again, it’s all about distortion and creating numbers advantages from sideline-to-sideline, forcing the defense to pick it’s poison.

I’ve also been impressed with the way Riley will attack in the red zone, and his tendency to be aggressive. As seen on the first touchdown in the video above, he calls a back shoulder seam. Riley, as many of you know, is a former wide receivers coach, so it doesn’t surprise me that this group excelled at ECU. Another example is at 6:47, look at the receiver releases, fake blocks, and the rub on the corner-flat, dropped!

One thing I didn’t get into much is the quarterback position. But from what I’ve sees, there are plenty of easy reads in this offense. And more often than not, there is only one player the quarterback is being asked to read. The offense is coherent with all the ‘bells & whistles’ of a modern spread-option attack.

Well, there are my thoughts in a nut shell. Given the Sooners’ penchant for finding wide receiver talent, not to mention tight ends and running backs as well, Lincoln Riley stands to field an aggressive offense. One that should be able to attack from sideline-to-sideline, as well as all three zones of coverage.

I hope you enjoyed. Please share your thoughts.

303 Comments

  • Legend03 says:

    First of all, thanks for the breakdowns. I do have one question…based on what we see above, who is the best QB to run this type of thing? There are three different styles on campus right now and I still can’t figure out who is the guy they are going to want to run it.

    • Soonersalltheway says:

      I have a few friends on the team and they told me that Lincoln Riley met with all 4 qbs saying that it is a completely open competition (hence why Cody quit baseball). Being that all 4 are decent runners, it should go to who ever can complete the 15 yard pass. And from what we’ve seen in games could be Baker

      • rphokc says:

        ..if it’s true that you have friends on the team, hope you will stick around the site as things progress…………. inside info, if you can post, is valuable esp since bobby will lock out/control the media ’til the season starts……thxs

        • Soonersalltheway says:

          for sure! I love this site haha. Friends with one RB, one QB and really close with 1 Corner

      • Rick says:

        We need to remember that Baker excelled at taco tech against inferior opponents, and sucked eggs against good competition. I’m not refuting his talent at all, just trying to be realistic. He seems to be mature on and off the field, and performed quite well in last years spring game against the backups. I would assume Hansen would fit the spread best because of his size, but i really think that all 4 of the QB’s have certain talents that would potentially flourish in a particular offence.

    • BigJoeBrown says:

      IMO….it’s Cody Thomas or Baker Mayfield. Baker seems to be the accurate passer and has the experiance and an underrated quality….charisma.
      If you look at back grounds, Cody Thomas was a pocket passer who was an Elite 11′ and passed for 4,100 yards, and only ran for 147 yards, Hansen passed for 3,000 and ran for 700, and showed more of a dual-threat QB. I always felt like Huepel was wanting Cody Thomas to do play not like Cody Thomas meaning Thomas isn’t a running QB. But both Thomas and Hansen are 6’4 which is pretty tall.

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    Very nice, this is what I am hoping for. An OC that makes the best use of the talent he has and doesnt force the issue with guys who can’t make the play. Riley seems to be that guy. I expect a very vanilla scheme in the spring and into the fall, until OU heads to Knoxville

  • ToatsMcGoats says:

    Awesome write up…but I have to say, that pic of Riley makes me think of uncle Rico: ” Napoleon, you can leave!”

  • BleedCrimson says:

    Just a note to let you know, I cant open the daily news… page not found.

  • Will Narramore says:

    Really excited about this offense next year. Still think Perine is getting 15-20 runs a game with Ross Ford and Mixon combining for another 15-20 touches via run and pass. Really think Mark Andrews and Carson Meir can do well in this offense

    • Herman Bubbert says:

      15 to 20 runs is not enough for Perine.

      • brainpimp says:

        It is depending upon what the defense gives you.

        • Herman Bubbert says:

          Nope. Perine is the best player on this offense. Those few carries? This offense will not succeed. He needs at least 25 carries a game.

          • Boom says:

            I don’t see why he can touch it 25 times. If we have 90+ plays and half are running, then there is plenty of wiggle room for 25. Agree, he needs to touch it 20-25 a game.

          • brainpimp says:

            You dont get any points for number of carries. That’s just not smart. You do what scores. If other teams want to load the box you hurt them until they move out. when they do you hurt them with run. I’ve seen all the handoffs into 8 man fronts I care to out of our offense.

          • ToatsMcGoats says:

            When the passing game puts up the points it’s supposed to, the natural order of things is to start running the ball/clock. Perine will more than likely get a ton of carries in the second half, if the passing game can be established.

  • AdamsHall says:

    Thanks for the write-up.

  • Krys Allen says:

    Has anyone watched enough of his games to know if he tailors his offense from game to game to take advantage of the opposing teams weakness’? Also does he make in game adjustments fluidly?

  • Brick says:

    Nice write up. Not necessarily an indictment on LR but when Riley was hired I remember reading an ECarolina fan stating ECU generated a lot of yards between the goal lines but had trouble punching it in. Appeared to be the case in the USCe video and it was definitely the case in the Florida bowl game, having watched it.

    • MoJoOkie says:

      I would say ECU doesn’t have the OL or Perine that Riley will have to work with in the RZ. Time will tell.

      • boomersooner says:

        this is what i think as well. with bede’s and the oline he’s building and that large human with the football coming in behind them, you’d think we’d be ok

        • Bob Edwards says:

          Or its just the fact that no fan base is ever satisfied with their teams red zone performance. If you scored on every trip the entire season but one, there are still some fans that would complain. Its not like ECU could be assumed to have superior talent in every match up and expect to score every time. Their average recruiting rankings were in the 70’s. A number of the teams they played were definitely better than that.

          • boomersooner says:

            that’s a good point. the ol’ “i’m not perfect at anything i do, but you gotta be” routine. that one’s gotta be up there with amos/andy, laurel/hardy and abbott/costello

          • Bob Edwards says:

            In other words typical Internet “fan.” People complaining about how an eighteen year old kid performs in front of a television audience of millions who will never accomplished as much in their entire life as he has at eighteen.

          • boomersooner says:

            haha. yep. i just love the ones showing up now that hide derision in their posts or “say something nice” but it always includes a disclaimer, for example..i can’t wait to see what riley does with this offense, if he’s left alone or so happy for monty to follow his dream, if that’s what he’s doing and not just getting outta dodge or our offense is gonna be so totally rad if someone doesn’t screw it up

          • Bob Edwards says:

            Yeah, though I have to admit I had a tendency in my younger days to make those kinds of comments.

          • EasTex says:

            For some the older they get the better they were, while with others the older they get the better they are.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            I hope I am one of the later.

          • EasTex says:

            Having observed your pixels, I would say you are.

          • LXXIV says:

            That is very good! Lol!

          • boomersooner says:

            Understandable but I would venture a guess that most of these are not young and some are not fans

          • Bob Edwards says:

            Yeah, I just can’t understand investing a lot of time and energy into something that the only thing you can say about it is bad. I get that last year was not up to standards, but I also recognize how unreasonable those standards are given the bigger picture.

          • boomersooner says:

            Exactly. I said last night that people are so angry at themselves for going all in on Bob because he won it all his 2nd yr and hasn’t won since that getting back doesn’t count. I don’t care about opinions. People have and can express em all they want. Its just the people who learn that Bob likes corn flakes for breakfast will get on here, not to disagree, but to full on bitch about him liking corn flakes or Bob doesn’t have time for breakfast he should be fixing whatever we perceive to be broken that need to go elsewhere or grow up

      • Brick says:

        I agree, MoJo. Looking forward to seeing what this O will look like.

    • Mysterio1 says:

      Hopefully he realizes what our running backs can do. You have to be multiple,to beat good defenses.
      OU was also up and down between the 20’s with previous OC’s.
      I’m very concerned about our direction, because if Bob doesnt get it right he won’t be around long.
      Your defense also has to practice against the run to be ready to stop the run.

  • bjwalker82 says:

    TFRB

  • MoJoOkie says:

    That was great. I enjoyed the entire write-up, but this jumped out at me early:

    “QB/RB mesh gives the defense the same look without tipping a read” I like.

  • Bob Edwards says:

    This is the kind of thing that makes us come back despite the site problems.

    • Jordan Esco says:

      I’m hopeful those have been resolved now. Please let me know if that’s not the case.

      • Bob Edwards says:

        It’s working for me now. However, don’t sweat it. I am a software developer by trade so my pain tolerance is pretty high when it comes to flaky software.

        • Jordan Esco says:

          I know, but it never should have been as bad as it was IMO. But whatever, just glad it appears to be working now.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            Yeah, but if I had a dollar for every time I could have said the same thing about a piece of software, I would own a small island in the Caribbean right now.

          • Daddy R says:

            Seems to be working fine, though the number of comments on the main page says 7 for this thread, and its over 90 already… weird. But I can read, post, and enjoy well enough!

          • Jared William Reininger says:

            Perhaps you should try rebooting it? ha.

            Poke from my old Support days.

            This site is fantastic IMO. You guys are not some major outfit. You are pretty small and with that in consideration, I think its above what anyone should even expect. With as much traffic as you guys get, it is amazing the site runs so smoothly.

            Just my 2 cents.

      • OUknowitscomin says:

        I’ve never had a problem, other than speed. My iPhone I often end up loading a 2nd time. Not sure if I need to, I just do after it takes some time to load. Computer has been fine.

  • boomersooner says:

    -great write up. easy to follow. thank you
    -posts from previous days seem to have an up to date count
    -however daily news wouldn’t load this a.m. but have heard it does now. i checked and it does indeed work.

    thanks for all the hard work fellas. very much appreciated

  • Zack says:

    I once was lost, but now I’m found…thanks Jordan

  • D'Brickashaw Ferguson says:

    This offense will require a very efficient, precise QB who makes accurate throws quickly. All 4 QB’s on campus have potential and I see all 4 pushing each other hard this Spring.

    But without a solid QB, this offense won’t work. I still believe Riley will utilize our RB’s much more than any tape from ECU shows, so that should take some pressure off them (but not much)

    • Zack says:

      He’s never had the running backs he will have here so I think its hard to judge him before we see him call any games. I think he’s going to utilize the strengths very well and I wouldnt be surprised if this season you see a slightly more than 50% run call.
      And I think he will find a QB that can get it done. Part of me really wants knight to be the guy but the other part of me wants to see Thomas because #14 has been a good omen in the stoops era.

      • Fear The Magic says:

        I really like the facts that all 4 QBs will be starting even. Riley ( and BS ) will have the whole spring and fall practices to pick the QB who best understands and executes the system. This will create greater competition and probably better results as an end result. I honestly believe that at least one or two of them will end up being not only good but maybe even superior QBs.

    • Indy_sooner says:

      In his interview yesterday, LR acknowledged the backs having the deepest talent depth all around. He also doesn’t want to be defined as a pass happy or run only which strikes me as a intelligent way of overcome weekly strengths using the best players available and more importantly, a dynamic playbook. Now, I’ll taper expectations, till Fall but I don’t think I remember JH making any such response… (vs. the usual “players need to execute” stuff)

      I do agree that we NEED a QB that can throw consistently and accurately. IMO, I foresee him not naming a starting QB and rotating players in the fall

      • Boom says:

        More importantly, I want a QB who makes good decisions and can throw pretty good. I don’t care how accurate you are if you make horrible decisions. What I like about LR is he doesn’t clutter the minds of the QB & WR’s.

      • ToatsMcGoats says:

        Carden wasn’t that great of a QB, at least in my opinion. He made quite a few bad decisions and wasn’t really all that sound mechanically which hurt his accuracy. Also, the OL wasn’t anything to write home about either. To think about that and then see the type of production that ECU’s offense had in spite of it all, that’s pretty impressive.

    • Sooner 76 says:

      I was impressed by this article and excited about what Riley can do at OU with talented players.

      Really, DF, as you well know, no offense will work without solid QB play. Hopefully, one of the four will provide the quality play that OU needs. Improved offensive production will keep the D rested and motivated.

  • j l says:

    Solid work here, thanks for the write up. /excited

  • John Garner says:

    Awesome read with my coffee. The kind of insight I’ve come to expect from TFB. Thanx! Enjoyed it thoroughly.

  • Dwebb_96 says:

    I have complete faith in the coaches we have on campus. Call me a sunshine pumper, crimson kool-aid drinker, etc. but I am feeling very optimistic about the coming season. With the talent on hand, I think the Sooners will surprise some people. The QB’s on campus, are all very talented, highly recruited (coming out of H.S), so I choose to look on the bright side of the football.
    Thanks for getting the bugs worked out, I about had a panic attack when I did not see a new brainiacs page this morning. All is good now.

  • Jeff says:

    Looks good just hope OU has a QB that can do this and he better not forget about Perine when OU is inside the 10 yard line!

  • Herman Bubbert says:

    An excellent read, and reason for offensive optimism – if Bob leaves him alone. I would be much more optimistic had Stoops not extolled the “Hal Mumme-Mike Leach Air Raid” during Riley’s intro presser. That worries me.

  • solja4him says:

    Awesome write up. Its info like this that brought me to TFB and cancel my pay site subscription. Love the creativity of this offense. Im stoked to see our skill guys execute this offense in Crimson & Cream. After reading & listening to Lincoln’s interview with Rodgers i’m more confident than ever that Bob made the right hire. Home run hire? Time will tell.

  • Randy says:

    All depends on what it usually does, QB play. Getting off the field on 3rd down.

  • SoonerPhins says:

    I see the potential, but if its 2nd and less than 4, I want to see some ground and pound. None of that stuff during LJ era. With the Running backs at OU it would be a real waste if one didn’t at least have 100+ yrd rushing per game.

    • EasTex says:

      Make the defense work for it by covering everything, no more 8-9 men in the box to stop the rush.

    • mizzOUstu702 says:

      I think it should be noted that we’re simply watching Justin Hardy draft videos there…there seem to be a lot of concepts that will benefit the run. Plus, ECU had over 2000 yards rushing last year, so I think they can definitely mix in the run, if not focus on it entirely to open up the pass.

  • Bob Edwards says:

    I am going to say that I think the success of next years offense is going to depend much more on the development of the OT’s than the QB’s.

  • DCinAZ says:

    “The pass game integrates with the run game in that the base zone and power (gap) schemes are primarily utilized in the read-option, play-action, and quarterback movement game. This can be a headache for defensive players as the majority of standard down and distance plays will all appear the same, especially if keying on OL steps and/or movement.”

    This is what I like most and it’s a big part of what Baylor does.

    • Bob Edwards says:

      One of the things that bothered me with Heupel was that I got to be pretty accurate at calling the play based on down and distance and formation. It seemed at times like we had one or two plays for each set. If I can see those things I am sure someone who knows what they are doing could.

      • SoonerGoneEast says:

        Flowchart play scheming.

      • DCinAZ says:

        Exactly. I could call Heupel’s plays too based upon the same indicators and I think everybody else could too.

        • Bob Edwards says:

          Seemed like he wanted the perfect play in every situation. I think that was the cause of a lot of the time outs. Problem is sometimes the best play is the one that shouldn’t work but does because the defense has over committed to stop the perfect one.

    • EasTex says:

      That approach has been around a while, it baffles me that all/most don’t employ it.
      I first saw it in the mid 80’s at my old high school when the OC installed it. His offenses were exciting and successful.
      His name was Tom Thrower and had been the SEMO coach for many years.
      http://www.dailystatesman.com/story/1795839.html

  • Stephen Dale says:

    LR’s offense will be exciting but, historically, won’t produce championships. Leach’s handprint was on OU’s 2000 team but it produced nothing since.. Historically, teams with the ability to run & pass ( while having the OL to do both consistently ) as well as having a dominant defense win NC’s………..

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      Having a dominant D is what OU fans thought/hoped for last season. Scheme on offense isn’t going to win OU a NC. A coach who uses his talent available to their maximum ability will help, but it will always go back to how the Sooners play on D, whether they are a NC caliber team or not

      • Navy_UDT says:

        We do not really know what the scheme will be at this point in time. Riley is a very creative and innovative coordinator and without question he will use the talent wisely, unlike the guy that just left. So, what’s say we wait and see what we will do offensively.

      • sracer says:

        Bingo

    • shawn says:

      OU has the line and the RB’s to allow for both just need a competent QB which I believ they have in Mayfield. Also the defense has the talent just needs the coaching so that’s a wait and see but the D could be great

      • ToatsMcGoats says:

        The D looked to be taking some steps in the right direction at the end of the 2013 season. I don’t think that it’s too far of a stretch to see things getting a bit better next season what with the new secondary coach. If they play real press coverage and pressure the QB instead of dropping everyone back into coverage, I think we’ll be okay. But who knows…

    • Sooner 76 says:

      Do you NEVER get tired of being Debbie Downer?

    • ToatsMcGoats says:

      We have an “Air Raid” OC, and Bedenbaugh has shown the ability to turn our OL into a real run blocking type OL…it seems that you have contradicted yourself.

  • Guest says:

    OU has the line and the RB’s to allow for both with a competent QB his offense could be lethal. Also defense has the skill just needed the coaching so that’s a wait and see but could be great.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      Inexperience in the secondary was a killer. Sometimes it was just to easy for opposing offense

      • Bob Edwards says:

        Yeah, every OC in the Big-12 should send Willie Martinez a check. Left us bare in the defensive back field.

        • Soonerfandave84 says:

          Yep, that miserable class of ’11 and not much from ’12 class either is biting them in the …

  • akryan says:

    What I saw in those videos was a team that decides to throw out of the shotgun three times in a row when they have the ball inside the ten.

  • BigJoeBrown says:

    Nice opener….4 score and 7 downs ago.

  • Glocal Sooner says:

    One question I have, despite the overall team performance recently, the offensive line seemed to really be a tough quality group. Does this new offensive scheme change in any way the type of OL recruits we are going after and/or does it help or hurt us going forward on the OL?

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      Thats an interesting question, but OU will put guys in the NFL at the position(esp OT), which means they are at least adequate in both even if they specialize in run blocking or pass blocking

  • JJSoona says:

    The one wrinkle we don’t see here is the threat of an effective running game and how much that would help, not only in his play calling, but the success of the passing game overall. It seems evident to me that if we can run the ball, this scheme could seriously gash any defense especially the 10-15 yard crossing routes. A good tight end makes this all the more effective.

  • Soonerbred says:

    I know this is a post about the offense but since the comments are wide and varying here goes…
    How attractive is the d-line job right now? I understand OU is a premier name but there seems to be a bit of uncertainty at the moment. My impression is that Bob knows he has roughly a two year window to show improvement and, for better or worse, he has hitched his wagon to Mike’s ability to turn the defense around. I don’t know what JM’s reasons were for leaving, but I would think any high profile candidate would look at what just happened and have some serious questions about working under Mike. Both in personality AND the likelihood of success.
    And since the same position is open at UT, is the job at OU more attractive and why (other than the obligatory Texas sucks)?
    Please note that I am not saying the sky is falling, that Bob can’t make a home run hire, or that a high profile name is the answer. Just polling on what you all think the job might look like to an outsider.

    • RBear says:

      That’s the elephant in the room right now isn’t it? Mike.

      I hope I’m wrong and that Bob made the right call here but in either case the issue remains that you should never hire family precisely due to this type of situation.

    • Bob Edwards says:

      First of all, a recent survey had Bob as the most respected coach amount other coaches. That means that the coaching profession does not see Bob the same way the OU message board denizens see him. Second, the average stint of an position coach is around two years, so being gone in two years doesn’t mean much. Three, the cupboard is fairly full at DL because of Monty’s recruiting. And four it is Oklahoma. Some coaches may not be interested but that would be true no matter what the situation.

      • Soonerbred says:

        I understand what you are saying, but defensive position coach’s success is tied to the d-coordinator’s scheme to some degree, right? And if I’m a high profile position coach that wants to make the jump to a coordinator spot in two years is Mike (not Bob), the one I want to roll with? I understand that OU is still OU, but Texas is still Texas. I would assume on name alone the job is at least in the top 10, but what differentiates it from the other 9?

        • LXXIV says:

          Texas has the cash, yet OU has the championships and more tradition. If you want to build a resume, I would think you would want to go to the most successful program.

        • Bob Edwards says:

          I am sure some will look at it your way and some will look at it my way. Bob does not have to convince all the good candidates out there, he only has to convince one. Some are going to see the positives and think this is the next step for them. Most of these guys have an ego and believe they can fix the problems. Look at Bob, when he came to OU it was a total cluster. One could ask why anyone would take the job given the mess that Boo Blake left it in. But he did, and Bob is not the only coach who has done that sort of thing. Does that mean Bob WILL hire a good DL coach? no. Does it mean he can? YES. After all he hired Monty after Venables leaving and after a defensive season in which we gave up a total of 97 points in two consecutive games (but won).

          • MoJoOkie says:

            If you’re afraid of getting hit in the face, don’t take up boxing. I’m not sure I would want Bob to hire a coach who was afraid of a challenge. As far a OU or texas, that would likely be more of a personal choice. $ are negotiable based on past success and fit.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            Yeah, lack of confidence is not usually a characteristic of a big time coach.

          • Soonerbred says:

            I am definitely not saying that Bob can’t make a great hire. But I think comparing a head coaching position where one gets to live or die by their own decisions is different. My overall point it that given the uncertainty surrounding Mike’s ability to get it done does that undermine the attractiveness of the job?

          • MoJoOkie says:

            texas went 6-7 last year, so I’m not sure why a coach would be interested in them. Doesn’t seem like an attractive position to take over OU. And texaas lost their DL coach to another school (Fla). Why did he leave after only one year. Seems like Strong might just be too hard to work for. Who would want to go there just to ruin their own career?

          • Bob Edwards says:

            Does it for some yes. But I don’t think it does for a lot of them. I don’t think Mike is perceived as being as incompetent by the rest of the world as he is by OU message boards. You are talking about a guy who was responsible for the defense during the Oklahoma resurgence and who was a head coach at a P5 conference. He did not just suddenly stop knowing how to coach. Now it does appear that he may have been out of the DC position long enough that he got behind the curve. And it may be that he is too inflexible to make the changes needed. But he did just switch to a defensive scheme that he was not familiar with in order to try and right the ship. That doesn’t sound inflexible to me.

            In the end the question is can he right the ship? Bob seems to think he can and that carries a lot of weight with people. After all you are talking one of the winningest D-1 coaches of all time. Most people will assume he is right vs a bunch of guys on message boards.

          • Soonerbred says:

            Thanks. If I read that correctly then you agree that there are question marks about Mike, but you ultimately think that Bob’s confidence in Mike is enough to outweigh the question marks for most applicants.

            For the record I don’t know if I am part of the “bunch of guys on message boards.” I do believe however that the recent performance on the field has opened the door for a legitimate debate/discussion.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            Oh, I think the performance on the field is of legitimate concern. But I think most of us on here don’t have the information to fairly evaluate the root causes. We just see the results. I can’t tell you how much of last year was bad defensive scheme and how much was an empty cupboard left by the previous DB coach.

            Bob obviously thought some things needed to change by the way he rearranged the staff. Whether that is the right answer I don’t know, only time will tell. However, the last few hires seem to have been good ones. Contrary to a lot of folks I think Bob has learned some lessons. I think he was trying to be the guy that helped out some of his buddies to get to the next level. But OU is not where you learn on the job. He seems to have realized that with his recent hires (after Mike) and that makes me think things may get better. If not, Castiglione has proved he can fire a coach and get the right one in place (see Jeff Capel to Lon Kruger).

    • Waters says:

      Excellent post!
      Bent Venables and now JM leave .
      Is this because of MS?
      It appears that way.
      Nepotism should never be permitted or allowed.
      MS is a dominant volatile personality that may prevent OU from hiring the best DL candidate.
      BS has decided to sink or swim with his brother.
      Boren should not have allowed BS to hire his brother to avoid a bad situation for OU and BS.

      • ellisbr says:

        no one seemed to mind when we won the NC with him. I’m not his biggest fan but the guy didn’t forget how to coach a defense over night. we’ll be fine, as long as he is willing/able to adapt.

        • RBear says:

          You have to grow your craft though.

        • Waters says:

          Dominant personalities don’t adapt. They impose their will.
          MS method of coaching lost the team in the bowl game.

          • ellisbr says:

            I’m not arguing what you said, I agree that he has that personality, which is why I said he needs to be able to adapt. not just his scheme but how he presents things in general. if he can do that then we’ll be ok, if not,…this could be a very long season.

          • Waters says:

            Adapt is the key word. I hope he can and will.
            OU success should not depend upon MS ability to “adapt “

        • Soonerbred says:

          For the record, I’m not saying Mike can’t get it done. What I am saying is that I’m afraid an outsider will look at the recent history and move on to somewhere else.

    • John Garner says:

      I think the job looks great! First of all its Oklahoma. ESpin has us trending down but football coaches know OU is a great resume builder. Secondly it’s Bob. Coaches want to work for Bob. He’s highly respected in the profession. But you raise a valid point: how many guys want to work for Mike?

  • Davey says:

    This is going to be so much fun learning a new offense!!! I can’t wait.

  • Rick says:

    Watching the film on the Birmingham bowl seemed to be just mostly the passing scheme. Going back to the stats for that game was almost shocking for me. Yes they threw a lot of passes (68), but they also rushed the ball 33 times. Should provide a big strong all universe running back enough attempts to make some records. If you watch the whole game pay attention to the fact that ECU’s defense was “not so much” so Florida had the lead. ECU was playing catch up and throwing the ball alot. The other eye opener was the amount of plays ran during the game, ECU ran 101 plays.

    • RBear says:

      Wonder what the Red Zone stats were in that game for ECU?

      • Rick says:

        Don’t know what the stats were, but it seemed to me the officiating crew was pro SEC as the ECU receivers were mauled at times in the endzone, the other thing was their QB seemed to rush his passes and throw high in the endzone. In any case ECU was aggressive, no run up the gut 3 times and call the place kicker.

  • nicjams says:

    I hope we can start calling him Cadillac Riley before the season is over.

  • EasTex says:

    Thanks to Gabriel Alcocer for his taking the time to express his observations.
    It has given us something to examine and ponder, with the knowledge that what we see in these draft analysis videos may or may not be what we actually see on the field with OU.

    I recall the NSD interview with Coach Riley on Soonersports when he said his offense has no “ego,” that we might see 70 passes or 70 runs, it depends on what the defense does.
    While that uncertainty might not please some, particularly opposing defenses, it certainly pleases me.

  • OUknowitscomin says:

    ‘At 4:01 you’ll see a play, I don’t even know what to call, out of a split-back shotgun formation’ ‘forcing the defense to pick it’s poison.’
    These are things I like to see……creativity. Excited to see things develop.

    • Lane Gilstrap says:

      I don’t think Perine needs to do anything different. Not lose weight. Not gain weight. Just come out and score some touchdowns.

  • Mustvid says:

    Well done and appreciated. I must say I’m jacked for spring ball and looking forward to throwing the football again…not all the time though. I think Perine can thrive in this offense. However, I would ask him to lose 10-15 pounds to be a little quicker. Even at 225 or 230 he’ll have plenty of power and balance the power with more speed. I think you want quicker backs in the spread IMO.

    • boomersooner says:

      its a good thought, but one thing to think about asking him to lose weight, which could be his strength. some people play better heavy cause that’s what they’re used to. i know its different positions and different variations of this offense, but if lorenzen can succeed in this offense then so can optimus, imo

      • Boom says:

        One of the best spread backs I’ve seen played for Baylor 3 years ago and he went 240-250. He’s not as good as Perine but no one could get him down as the lanes opened up for the run due to their passing. Red Zone he killed us. Perine is fine at his weight.

    • SCKSChief says:

      I share your sentiment. My concern is in the QB department. I REALLY hope and pray that there is a QB on this roster who can run the offense.

  • OceanDescender says:

    What may have excited me the most about this post and the videos was what appeared to be the very well-timed usage by Riley of the screen game. I’ve seen just about every defense in the big 12 get prone to overpursuit (hence their reputation of wearing down and allowing big points in this conference, even in wins). With the incredible talent OU is fielding at running back, the new OC will be stashing those screen plays in the “home run” section of the playbook.

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    Didnt OU lead the B12 in total defense and passing defense in 2013? Mike hasnt forgotten how to coach. The defense was playing with sophomores and freshman, hopefully they will be much improved next year(remove the busted coverages). Not saying it’s gonna happen but, it definitely could. I think the defense’s problem was more youth, inexperience, and probably a lack of talent in the secondary(why OU brought in so many players this year). You can blame him for that part if you want. This year was a complete failure team wise, one week it was offense, the next defense, the next special teams. Get a grip guys, lets see how this year goes. I have a suspicion it starts slow but shows promise at years end and OU starts 2016 with legit B12 and playoff hopes…They’ll either be sunshine in December or a cloud hanging over Stoops tenure(did he stay to long type of thing). Gotta hope for the best but prepare for the worst

  • John Garner says:

    FYI, the home page hasn’t updated in hours.

  • Jed says:

    no comments showing for the past 4 hours, seeing if I can post…

  • jmac45 says:

    Thanks for that great write-up and the clips. One thing that jumped out to me and I really loved was the way he was moving his QB around a lot, even in the quick passing game. Because those DLmen looked to clearly be better than Riley’s OLmen.

    Trevor might be able to execute more of this offense than I originally thought, because Trevor IMO is a much better passer on the move. Not saying he will be the guy, but I just had very little hope for Trevor in this offense if he was going to be asked to sit back there and execute a quick passing game.

    Hardy is a gamer and gives great effort. Been awhile since I’ve seen one of our WR put in that much effort during a game. 🙂

  • Soonerbred says:

    Just saw where JM was announced as “Defensive Front Assistant” for GB which makes me feel better than seeing him as a quality control guy.

  • SamSooner says:

    Are we having a problem again? The last post I can see was 6 hours ago.

    • Jordan Esco says:

      Define what you mean by post. Are you referring to the front page? This post on Riley’s offense is the most recent made today. There wasn’t an Open Post today, but there will be tomorrow.

      • JD says:

        I had to change my “sort by” option yesterday..kept seeing Beavis then finally noticed if was liked a lot so checked my sort and it was on most liked..changed by to newest and back in business

        • Jordan Esco says:

          good to hear. some things may have been reset yesterday w/ the reboot

          • SamSooner says:

            Got it Jordan. I’m good. I was in full-panic mode. Whew! I will come back inside, step away from the ledge.

        • Daddy R says:

          This happens sometimes, especially if you clear you cache on computer. Many people forget to check the “sort by” option…

      • SamSooner says:

        I should have said comment. My bad. The last comment I see was between you and Bob Edwards.

  • EasTex says:

    BREAKING: #Sooners to interview college coach of Demarcus Ware and Osi Yumenyiora today. Mike Pelton of GT. https://t.co/pn3ZaWmezn— SoonerScoop.com (@SoonerScoop) February 12, 2015

    • JD says:

      Hows Ware as a coach..man…he’d be a knock out 34 line coach hire…learnt from one of the greatest nfl coaches of all time…recruits would love to at least meet him!!

      • hOUligan says:

        Whether it turns out to be anything, can see threads of possibility here. Chizik took him along to Auburn from IState. Bob will be familiar with his work. Relatively young. Like the ‘multiple’ which is something on my wish list.

    • Exiled In Ohio says:

      Says he’s a 4-3 guy

      • EasTex says:

        Yep.
        May or may not mean anything, as it is an interview.

      • EasTex says:

        Also, a bit of a gypsy as are many coaches.
        Wonder how he is at recruiting.

        • Exiled In Ohio says:

          Yeah, I noticed he moved around a lot, and had the same position everywhere. No advancement. Could be that he’s a great 1 on 1 coach but doesn’t have the political skills to move up to a DC.

        • Boom says:

          Based on the breaking news, if feels like this just stopped my normal programming to break this news.

          Recruiting wise, he’s been all over the SE so I’m sure he know his way around. We’ll see but I have to say, anyone coming into this situation should be licking their chops with the talent that is here.

        • MoJoOkie says:

          For the 2015 class he landed three 3 stars for GT. Not to throw stones, but I’m kinda under impressed. Two year spans at any one school and nothing I see really pops as a must have guy. Bob probably has a lot more insight than I do though.

      • ellisbr says:

        I noticed that as well. Does this mean we’re maybe looking to go back to that for the right guy or they plan on making right guy learn their scheme?

      • JSam says:

        Says he installed a “multiple 4-3” at Tech. Sounds similar to what Stoops says he wants, though seemingly based out of a 3-4, I suppose.

    • Jordan Esco says:

      I guess I could go ahead and delete this and/or s#$% all over it for lacking credibility like is done when ppl bring TFB info they don’t have to their $ board. But I suppose I can be the bigger person and leave it up.

      • Bob Edwards says:

        In fact Jordan, you are such a big person I am sure you won’t even mention it on the board.

      • EasTex says:

        No offense intended, saw the tweet elsewhere and not at Scoop as I have never been there. Thought it might be of interest.

        • Jordan Esco says:

          you’re fine, i was just being a smartass. we don’t have a problem here w/ bringing info from elsewhere as the goal has always been, and will continue to be, for you to be as informed as you’d like to be. no petty, personal insecurities here with respect to others also have OU info.

    • OceanDescender says:

      I like this rumor!

    • mizzOUstu702 says:

      Looks like he coached with Boulware at ISU and Auburn, so there is a connection.

    • Jeff says:

      Ugh no!

  • Martin says:

    Bless you for this post. I’ve been wondering how he planned on getting everyone involved in the offense. I just hope they learn this offense in time this Spring.

  • John Garner says:

    Hey TFB – can we get a separate thread (?) on the search for a DLcoach? It would just be easier to track all the posts. Thanks.

    • Jordan Esco says:

      What is there to track? Other than a single report of someone supposedly interviewing for the job I’m not aware of anything else that is out there. Well, other than coaching “hot boards” which I would think the previous two hires and this now report of an interview all of which included guys no one included on their “hot board” would prove what a complete waste of time those are.

      But let me tell you how I really feel 🙂

      • Cush Creekmont says:

        Agree Jordan. Otherwise, I would have to wade through a bazillion posts on every option with no actual information – just wait for some real candidate “sightings.”

        • Jordan Esco says:

          Well, this Pelton guy wasn’t on anyone’s ‘hot board’ so isn’t that kind of what you’ve already done (assuming you read said ‘hot boards’)?

      • hOUligan says:

        I am only 1 but it gets my vote. Enough speculumations going on in all of the OS and in general. Let’s not get wishes confused with reality.

      • Buster Rhymes 4 says:

        I heard Pinocchio got fired from his motivational speaking job! Back in football and a sighting reported at campus corner at 3:30 p.m. central time with Mike Stoops. Just kidding…Really!

      • John Garner says:

        Whoops! Just thought things would start heating up with internet reports and social media. Guess not.

    • EasTex says:

      Uh…hmmm…you alright, bud?

      • Boom says:

        EasTex, I went back and viewed the videos. Against, USC, look at the OL blocking on a LB down field. Like it as Riley was setting up the play w/OG or OT and they become the lead blocker. cool stuff.

  • hOUligan says:

    Good intro article. Thanks to Gabe and TFB for putting it on here. LR has a chest full of toys like he has never had. After tinkering this spring and planning over the summer, am certain he will throw the tarp off of his ‘Hot Rod’ come Sept. and we will be pleased watching it make road kill of the Zips.

  • Cush Creekmont says:

    I like the info. I plan to look at it all more closely when I get home from work. Thanks for giving us the commentary AND examples.

  • Stephen says:

    Lots of good stuff on the Lincoln Riley offense today. It seems like it’s a lot more than just air raid, which gives me some hope.

  • OkieRandolph says:

    Got a buddy that says that Big Bob is interviewing Mike Pelton out of Georgia Tech today for the DL coach job today. Said he’s been at several schools.

  • Dr. Doobie says:

    Great insight into what this offense can be. Can’t wait to see what LR can do with this group of young men.

    On another note. Can’t see the newest comments when viewing from my iPhone or iPad. I’m pretty sure there are comments newer than an hour ago. This site is too awesome to not have more recent comments. Not sure what to do aside from clearing the history, cookies, etc. as Esco suggested. Ideas?

    • Daddy R says:

      Did you check the “sort by” feature, right underneath the number of comments? You can sort by newest, oldest, or best… default option is “best,” and sometimes this gets reset somehow.. and always does after clearing your cache and cookies. Change back to “newest” and you should be good. If that doesnt work, then, my bad. lol

  • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

    A repost from earlier. Every play on offense for ECU vs Va. Tech in 2013. I won’t try to find their playbook and give away the house.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5-yQ_6aQeQ

  • RBear says:

    Here’s a question for you, what would Riley and ECU have done to OU’s D last year?

    • Stephen says:

      Put in the backup QB and thrown for nearly 500 yards. Our defense was awful and somehow the only coach that had it together on defense (Monty) left because the promotion was basically just a name and probably only given so he could recruit other guy’s positions for them. Rant over, I had a bad day at work.

    • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

      A lot. (sigh)

    • Clint Lenard says:

      The question should be: how much extra time would Heupel have given ECU and Riley to rape OU’s Defense?

      Follow up question: would they have been nice enough to use lube?

      I think we know both answers.

    • EasTex says:

      Along that line, what would the OU OL and Perine have done to ECU?

      • RBear says:

        I’m sure we would have inflicted damage as well, just curious as to how adept Riley would have been using lesser talent (out-coached) vs our D.

  • Kevin says:

    Love the write up. Without analysis like this I would watch videos like that and get concerned about the “execution” portion/defensive ability of the highlights.

    • RBear says:

      Thanks- so many awesome memories of OU and this one is right up there for sure.

    • John Garner says:

      Great moment in OU lore. Did you see Woody Hayes at the end? He slaps away an attempt at a handshake by an OU assistant. What a class act.

  • Lane Gilstrap says:

    Supposedly OU is interviewing Mike Pelton from Georgia Tech. I’m not sure I like this because he coaches a 4-3.

  • Jeff says:

    …..

  • Hotrod33 says:

    Ok, The site is messed up and I can’t see the what was said earlier. If there were any new updates I can’t see them.

  • blaster1371 says:

    Lincoln needs to shave that scuff off his mug. He looks too much like Dingleberry at TTech.

  • EasTex says:

    Dang, sure took a long time to log in to TFB.

    • Hotrod33 says:

      You didn’t miss much.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      Everything takes longer as you get up in age. 🙂

      • EasTex says:

        I hadn’t had any serious problems with the site until tonight. At one point got some weird message saying the connection had been changed and TFB was now using a lower level of service or something to that effect.
        I would try it and it would just take forever to load so I would cancel and go about my other business. Wasn’t going to miss Archer due to waiting on a site to open.

  • JD says:

    Did the pay sites hit this place with some denial of service malware or what

  • RBear says:

    Fastest Sooner EVER!

    We’ve sure had some elite athletes over the years- enjoy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KclzLn8xsy4

    • Sooner Ray says:

      Watching that offense NEVER get’s old!

      • blaster1371 says:

        That low-pile turf and steep crown at Owen Field just made those guys that much faster.

        • Steve Johns says:

          Played on that stuff in high school against Norman. Felt like walking on air but it was as hard as concrete when you fell on it – carpet burns were no fun either. As for the crown, I remember shuffling down the line of scrimmage getting tripped up and rolling to the sideline. lol

          • blaster1371 says:

            Dude!!! I played at Norman High!!! But they stopped playing at Owen Field a few years before I got to HS. I did play a pick up game on it….rug burns galore. Lawton HS had that crap too. I had a burn that never did heal that season.

          • Steve Johns says:

            Yep, we played Lawton on Cameron’s field too.

    • John Garner says:

      The Bone! Awesome! The last play was sweet. Stuffing Texas is always a good thing.

  • soonerthunder says:

    I always thought Heupel gave up the advantage to the D. He lined up the same way and then read the D and had the QB take advantage of what they thought would be the best option. Not much of lining up differently, motion, etc. D doesn’t get confused much and can decide what they want to do, how they want to defend, and the O has to read where they think the weakness will be and hope to make the play. Very complicated for the QB especially, but also for the blocking from the OL/RBs/WRs. With Riley’s O, the D can make a lot of mistakes lining up b/c they never know how the O will line up. That right there can result in a big play. The O dictates what they want the advantage to be, not the D. It’s a much easier read for the QB. I very much like the change in O systems. I think it’s more complicated to defend than the Oregon O, but I like that O a lot as well.