Dean Blevins broke the news Saturday afternoon that Oklahoma defensive coordinator Mike Stoops is expected to interview with LSU for their currently vacant DC job.
TFB has been able to confirm Blevins’ report of the interview expected to take place in the coming days.
Blevins is also reporting that Stoops is expected to be offered the job, but that is not something TFB has been able to confirm at this time.
Never the less, this is certainly an interesting turn of events with the current state of uncertainty surrounding a portion of this OU coaching staff, and the program as a whole, coming off an incredibly disappointing season.
As always, we’ll continue to update you as information becomes available.
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YES! Please take the job Mike.
As long as it doesnt effect the recruits that we have committed Im more than ok with this.
There is the potential for a new recruiting base with this move if it happens. I don’t think we lose any, but could add a couple. Just an intuition though.
only one i’d be concerned about is PJ, the new DC would have to have press defense for the corners
Bob’s been on the recruiting trail for all.
Can’t have it both ways. Can’t want major changes, AND worry about the recruits. If we need coaching changes, we need to make them and hope for the best, or simply move on to next year’s class.
Bob has been securing the relationships with all the recruits, especially the DB”s.
I get the feeling Mike wasn’t the main recruiter, or alone in recruiting, any of them. Seems Wright was there, and as you said Bob, or somebody else from the staff. I think we’ll be fine.
Agree.
Interesting time.
How would this affect our current defensive class, especially Mbanasor and Haughton?
You would think Blevins could sit on the story right? Or, hopefully it wasn’t MS recruiting these guys.
The question is if he takes the job, who does OU go after to replace him?
TCU’s DC!
I was just thinking the same thing.
That would be Gary Patterson, he runs the show.
He should be happy to take the demotion just to have a chance to coach at OU.
“head coach in waiting”
there you go.
Promote Monty! He deserves it!
Hard to believe LSU would want him after his performance at OU. But maybe a change of scenery will do him –and OU — some good. Look what going to Clemson did for — oh great! I just brainfarted and forgot his name — the previous DC.
I think Mike would do well in the SEC, he has no idea how to scheme against Big 12 offenses.
HA! No doubt. Those SEC offenses shouldn’t be as hard.
And they have loads and loads of talent on that team. The team might now need as much coaching as OU does….maybe.
Good point Stephen
With the exception of the few spread offenses he will face
Maybe, but the SEC is becoming more and more spread friendly. aTm. Mizzou. Ole Miss. I’m sure there are others, and even Bama had more spread looks and tempo this year.
Dont kid yourself. Im pretty sure that more and more SEC teams will start going to a faster pace spread offense in the next couple of years. Plus when it comes right down to it he’ll probably be facing a Big 12 type team in a bowl or the playoffs
Hopefully US!
Whatever, as long as he’s LSU’s problem.
Half the SEC are spread teams now.
SEC much better fit for Mike.
Venebles!
Thanx! Duh!
probably blocked it out after Clemson game.
I blocked out the entire Clemson game. LOL!
We played Clemson? When? I don’t remember this event you speak of.
This is reminding me of all those times people reference some game against USC in Miami some years ago… I don’t recall that happening either
He got his ass kicked as well Remember? 55th ranked his last year?
Limited spread offenses down South.
Mike can coach so long as the offenses are not spread and the QB’s are not all that mobile. He can probably do ok in the SEC
wow , not the top of my list of my wish list , hope for the best for him and OU , either way
I say this is a smart move for Mike. I’m sure he has aspirations of becoming a HC again one day, and IF he can keep LSU defense good, he may have an easier chance because he’d have shown he can be successful without Big Bro.
His only chance is to prove himself somewhere else.
So is there a zero % chance we go after durkin? I wouldn’t mind promoting monty to DC but I don’t know if he would be able to be a play caller so might need to be a co DC.
Yeah I was thinking more of a Co DC just to make sure he stays at OU
and @Zack:disqus Please no more Co-DCs or Co-OCs. Get a proper Secondary coach. Keep Monty at DLine and a single DC. Same for OC.
I hate the co-thing, it’s just to justify raises and make people feel more important…..hurts the production IMO.
to many chiefs.
Normally Id agree with you but Monty is a MUST keep. Its obvious what he adds to OUs recruiting and I have a feeling that other top schools will increasingly come knocking for his services. If it takes making him a co DC then so be it.
If that’s the purpose let’s just make him and everyone else we don’t want to lose asst. head coaches.:-). The co-coach thing is becoming trendy and can work if the right pair is matched up, it’s when there are differences in opinion where it can really be a problem.
It’s a title thing. Monty is one of the hottest recruiters and it’s only a matter of time before he gets a shot at a dc job. But he probably needs time as kind of an understudy.
Assistant-Co-Defensive Cooridnator in-training.
That would be a promotion. I was just about to say assistant DC.
I don’t mind co-coordinators when it makes sense. A lot of schools have that. A lot of schools that have been kicking our butts have that. It just has to be done right. I don’t think Monty is ready, nor has he probably (I’m not in the coaching offices everyday) earned the right to be a co-DC.
Now lsu will have 2 mad hatters!
Wonder if Mike likes grass?
Never touched it.
Except for that one time….
Right, right, there was that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We see what you did there, fellas. Again
The joke was about Les chewing on grass turf.
SF still has a politics board. Getting too boring there?
Nah. This place talks people, football, people, football, opinions, comments, personal notes, impersonal notes. Rah Rah. You know this isn’t about your rules.
He did not inhale it. Only puffed it like a cigar.
For the record, I’m not firing my brother. I’m just stipulating that if he wants to coach next year, it has to be somewhere else.
It was only a matter of time till this started…
Oh man.
Did you used to go by the name Pelini?
Did you used to be called Sugar?
So you do know me!
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This is the best situation for all parties. No reason to take any cheap shots at Mike. He did his best and I am sure it is a difficult situation for Bob and Mike an all involved. Trust Bob that he will attempt to right the ship.
Keep TFB classy!
Trust Bob? Based upon what?
1. His coaching record. 2. The changes he’s made recently: Monty and Coach B. Those are a couple of good reasons.
OK… I was more concerned about what has been going on between the white lines… OUnranked
Reasons not to trust Bob: 1) Poor bowl record with history of far too many embarrassing losses. 2) Punt vs oSu. 3) Hiring of Kish, Heupel, Kittle, Norvell, Patton, Long, Martinez, Wyatt and rehiring his own brother. 4) Embarrassing losses to conference bottom-feeders. 5) Getting absolutely humiliated on our home field in losses. 6) An increasing number of home game losses each year. 7) Poor recruiting. 8) Poor talent evaluation. 9) Poor game planning. 10) Nepotism and cronyism in hiring. 11) Too slow to realize when changes have to be made. 12) Complacency. 13) Arrogance. 14) Bad coach-player relationships in certain positions. 15) No outright conference championships in 5 years.
Congratulations! Your post ridiculous!
Congratulations…nowhere near as ridiculous as yours! But thank you for playing.
Thanks for playing what?
Show a little class, Won.
Not sure how asking an honest question is offensive. My apologies.
It isn’t. SPs get butt hurt when you question the almighty Bob. If Bob got fired, they’d do the same thing for the next coach. Some fans simply cannot be objective.
And you are. That’s funny.
Objective enough to see that there are in fact major problems at OU especially on defense, that Bob has made some hiring mistakes in the past, that we are underachieving…I’d say that’s pretty darn objective.
Seriously? You are that guy aren’t you. I’ll take the bait and hope it will prevent you from wasting time in the future.
1) Bob is the winningest coach at OU. (could stop here but I’ll continue)
2) Bob brought us out of a decade of despair.
3) Bob has shown he will make changes i.e. he has fired 4 coordinators and appears to be making some changes this year as well. The recent hires have proven to be good recruiters.
Need I continue? If the first 3 supporting arguments don’t validate my previous statement, I can’t help you. Again – have class Won.
Bob has earned the respect of our fan base. That doesn’t mean we have to be satisfied with the recent performance, but we can at least let him do his job of righting the ship and showing class throughout.
Yeah just like he is classy in his pressers where he thinks all fans and reporters are idiots. Remember what he said after Baylor, “couldn’t care less about what fans are saying on twitter”. Classy
Most reporters are idiots…
This is true….but we fans are intelligent and always classy 🙂
Of course, of course. Lol
Spoke for yurself dirtbag!
Just kidding
I never heard him say anyone was an idiot and I agreed with him about ignoring social media critics.
I just think he comes off as arrogant and condescending in his pressers. Like nobody know anything about football but him. Just my opinion.
I guess it depends on perspective. I always saw it as the media being annoying and he responding as I probably would.
Maybe so…I think once I’d like him to say, “we didn’t get it done and that’s on me. No excuses” but instead he usually says “poor execution on the players part”. Drive me nuts to throw players under the bus like that.
I hate the “poor execution” statement every week. Yeah, some of it is execution, but guys making the same mistakes on defense goes beyond execution after a couple weeks. Just sayin’.
Exactly, I know some of it is execution. But if who you have out there cannot execute what you are asking them to do, find someone who can or change the game plan. Gotta change coaching strategy based on what you have.
Seems equal to Saban in saying his players weren’t interested in 2013 Sugar bowl. Both coaches threw the players under the bus. AND?
Show me another coach that acts the same way he does. Spurrier comes close at times. Don’t count the stupid sideline interviews by the intelligent women folk!!!
Who cares if other Coaches act the same or not? I sure the heck don’t.
But that is an impression on your part not a fact.
I doubt many here would act or feel much differently than he if they had their professional lives scrutinized in a public forum by a bunch of goofs that never coached or played a down of football in their lives.
What about those of us who have? LOL
Most of us aren’t paid 13,000 a day to do our jobs either. It goes with the territory. Bob doesn’t want any scrutiny? Go be a mary kay rep, oh wait they have to answer for their production too!
I guess I know who to contact now as spokesperson for the OU fanbase. I didn’t get the sign up sheet for that.
How did the ship get “unrighted”?
I agree with Shelby. Listening to Ricky DeBerry’s recent interview, he talked about how his parents were blown away during their meeting with Stoops. I’ve heard people that have attended some of his speaking engagements say how impressive he was to listen to. I think all of what you perceive as “arrogance” during media interaction is probably what Stoops’ views as an obligation when he probably has better things to be doing. And I would imagine it does get old being questioned by people that haven’t ever played in a Division I football game, much less coached one. Especially considering the credentials of our local media.
His attitude and tact (and sometimes, lackthereof) is typical of people from eastern Ohio. Having known a few and being related to a few by marriage, they aren’t the most personable folks.
It doesn’t matter whether he thinks he has better things to do, it’s part of the damn job.
Let’s see Ricky’s contributions in the next few years.
Agreed. Mike did some good things at OU before. I just don’t think it’s going to work this time, especially with his change in philosophy to the same one that got Venables run out of town.
Do not see how anyone could say he tried his best with a straight face!!!
Anybody know anything about the Pendergast guy they mentioned in the Blevins’article. Said he was USC DC before Sark got there and he has ties to OU? Who else would be a realistic option?
Pendergast would be the best fit .
If Mike leaves, I would think having Monty already here would be a nice incentive for coming, plus you get to pick your own LB and DB coach. You add that with our tradition and you could have a good job.
Complete hypothetical.
Wish list for DCs IF Mike Stoops were to leave. Go.
Rex Ryan?
Rex or Rob. Saw where Rob may get the ax in New Orleans. Not sure if either of them would fit the college game. Rex probably would more than Rob.
Rex is up for plenty of NFL jobs right now, so I doubt he’d ever consider it.
This is where the line is crossed in to confection and speculation that I just can’t entertain much. No, the Ryan brothers will not be doing this. I know L’Carpetron prefaced with hypothetical.
Lol, I’m just playing. I have no desire for either, and highly doubt either would even consider it.
I know you were. I want to keep my mind right, I try to keep myself honest as well. :).
I don’t want either of them.
I don’t think either is a good fit. And both would likely be very short term.
Rex Ryan to OU…as a D-Coordinator… while he’s currently interviewing for HC jobs in the NFL?
Not happening.
Maybe he’d like the challenge of the college game? lol
L’Carpetron Dookmarriot.
Not gonna take it unless they pay the deposit for my pet polar bear.
Put in a stipend for me, and I’ll track down the right Polar Bear for you, make some calls, do some research.
Depends on if we stick with the 3-4 or not. Anyone know how much input Bob had on that decision?
Rex Ryan would be a steal. I think he could recruit with the best of them and he knows defense BUT lets be real he will be a HC in NFL next year.
What about Pat Narduzzi, Kstate DC, Jim Kowles, or Derek Mason
Narduzzi is the HC at Pitt now. Mason HC at Vandy. I don’t think either step down. Now Knowles might be a good hire. The Blue Devils have played above their heads as of late.
Well that shows you my knowledge with the coaching carousel. LOL my bro in law says Pendergrast former Cal and USC DC
I like the thought of Pendergast
People talking about who to bring in as DC. I suggest we promote Monty, he deserves it.
Boom.
1 down 4 more to go?
Coaching promotions, recruits?
Not sure he deserves it yet. Would be just like what we did with JH.
Yeah, give him a raise and let him know how much we appreciate all he does. Don’t know about DC yet
Bingo
While I do believe Monty deserves a DC position, I don’t think we need to chance it at OU. I hope Monty does not leave, he is a recruiting machine, but Bob needs to maybe make him a Co-DC so he can learn from someone first. That way he will not be a failed thing like JH.
Recruiting alone does not make a coach! AKA Mack Brown and staff
No doubt!!! Good example.
Nah. Not ready.
And who coaches DBs? BJW and Bob?
Derrick Strait.
I like it….
Being funny here of course. Point is: this isn’t a subject I have a clue about. I’ll study the guy who gets hired, we all will.
You sold me at Derrick Str…
What an incredible Sooner. I have a mental picture of him going up to knock long balls down, perfect timed jumps, quick feet.
Dont let the paint dry on A&Ms contract with Chavis. Offer him more $$$.
I’d be ok with that
While I am not against giving Monty a chance as DC, he has limited experience in that role (N Iowa). Isn’t this one reason why JH is having a problem? Experience?
No way! How do you know if he even knows how to coordinate a defense or create a defensive game plan? Reward him with a raise. Make him Co-DC only if you risk losing him. But there is no way he should take over as our DC at this point in his career.
a major complaint on jh was/is on-the-job-training……….seems like same setup for mont………keep mont but wouldn’t think he is ready for that step yet
I don’t think the problem with Josh was not so much OTJ training as much as on the job not getting better.
druther keep Monty’s time and efforts in recruiting – if he’s tied down in the film room that inhibits his airliner time. Give him more $$$, fly him 1st Class on those recruiting trips. Let him use the frequent flyer miles to take his family someplace good when vacation time hits.
As Barry sometimes put it – let’s just out ath-a-lete ’em (via Monty’s recruits)
Nah.
We will know soon enough. I think it works. But the news story source doesn’t allow me to be confident this is real yet.
I think Mike is gone, and I’m fine with that. My nah comment was meant for below.
haha. Alright.
Good luck Mike!
Monty does deserve it. It is all about communication.
Monty to DC please.
I’m boarding this train, will get off once the hire is made, and then board the train again.
I know he doesn’t have the DC experience, but he’s motivated and has the kind of rapport with the players needed to encourage the players to play up to their potential rather than down to their opponent. Scheme is great, but without player buy-in, it doesn’t really matter. Playing and staying motivated and for someone you believe in trumps a lot of things, especially when you’re talking about the kind of talent Monty is bringing in.
I think you totally hit on a major point here. This staff has almost gone to a professional viewpoint lately. Comments about the players being responsible to get them selves focused or pumped up. Playing flat not emotional. It all comes from the top and that IS one of your primary jobs as a coach.
please please please, i love monty
DJ DURKIN!!!! I love Monty, but why promote a guy and hope when we have the $$$ to go get a proven commodity!
Interesting…..
Anyone familiar with the GT DC? Watched them a few times, they were impressive from the games that I watched.
Still think Mike can coach a 4-3. Hopefully we bring in a 3-4 DC, or at least don’t force the new coordinator(s?) to coach a system different than what they’re used to. That’s obviously never worked out.
I wonder, if we bring in someone from the outside, whether they’ll bring their own position coaches. I assume JM, Bedenbaugh and Gundy are safe.
They would keep everyone Bob wanted to keep, he makes those decisions.
Whomever it is…..we need to go after the best with money being no object.
Won’t happen
Not with that attitude it won’t.
Yeah, I think mike was making around $600K. Clemson is paying Venebles $800K. I don’t think we should just throw money around but we need to spend money on someone that will immediatly valuable. They are raising $350 Mill to spend on facilities, I think we can afford to by some assistant coaches out!!
Mike was making 856,000
The weird thing is the last two defensive coaches that left the program were Coach V and Willie Martinez. Both, are making more money and are doing really great things at their respective programs. Willie is doing a pretty bang up job on the recruiting trail at Tennesssee and Coach V, well yeah we all know how well he is doing!!! Now, I am starting to wonder what is really going on with the defense?
Head man is a defensive guy too…maybe he’s too involved?
Let’s snag Muschamp away from Auburn
Here’s another DC name… Robb Smith, the DC at Arkansas. Thoughts?
He crossed my mind earlier, I believe I heard Arkansas does not pay assist coaches well. Need to take our time and hit a homerun with this one
Just assuming the credit goes to him for that defense this year. Don’t follow Arkansas football close enough to know. But I do know that defense was impressive this year, and looked better and better all season.
Thought you were impatient? 😀
If all the times we contradicted ourselves on these boards was counted, the truth would come out, we are walking talking contradictions with the one hope that God is looking in on our situations, ready to cover us.
He covered all of us on the cross at Calvary! Praise be to God for His grace and forgiveness.
Amen. AMEN.
Pardon me if I contradict you. :0
I don’t have that power ET.
I am but it doesn’t mean I’m crazy either. No need to jump on the first train leaving town.Gotta make a good hire. You were right Tex, you don’t forget a thing!
Not a danged thang. LOL
LSU fans will not be happy! They want Ed!!
Jim Haslet is available, he is a 34 Def coach.
London Fletcher just texted Bob and said “No.”
What is Orgeron doing?
Winning.
No, Ed Orgeron. Used to be Ole Miss HC and more recetlty was with USC before Sark took over
Sorry, thought you were a bad speller. 🙂
He was a good defensive coach and great recruiter. Kids at USC loved him, they were all hacked off when they bypassed Ed and hired Sark
Orgeron would be a great hire.
He would be on my final list. Along with Durkin, Pendergast, maybe Aranda.
Recruiting monster.
Hopefully packing his belongings and buying a plane ticket to Oklahoma.
Good call. LSU NO Times says Pendergast the favorite for job.
Says online he is interested in LSU job…so maybe he’d listen if there was a call?
Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery interesting. I hope it turns out well for all involved. I expect my Sooners to be better next year, so changes should come.
It will be much easier for Mike to run his schemes at LSU. But don’t be surprised if have to go through Mike to get to a Natty. Karma you know…
Dave Aranda dc/lb coach & promote Monty to co-dc.
I’ll allow it. Add in Scott Frost on offense, then we’ll be good.
The same Dave Aranda who gave up 59 to tOSU
Yes.. This just in… tOSU is pretty good.. Guess what.. Narduzzi got lit up by tOSU & Oregon.. He’s still pretty good.. Good coaches get beat sometimes…
Yeah I know tOSU is pretty good. Just wondering if that might be the best hire. Think there are other names I might go after
You can have Orgeron.. I’ll take Aranda…
I wasn’t even saying Orgeron is the guy. I was just asking a question. Aranda very well may be the guy. I looked at his stats and he has done some impressive work, with a 3/4 def at that. Need to make sure this is the right hire tho, whoever it may be.
Was thinking the same, he doesn’t yet know if he still has a job.
Saw someone mention Spavital as OC. That is really interesting thought since he has so many ties to Oklahoma.
Following his playing career at Missouri State, Spavital became a member of the coaching staff at Tulsa in 2008 where he worked as an offensive quality control assistant under Gus Malzahn. Following the 2008 season Spavital became a graduate assistant atHouston. While at Houston, Spavital worked under head coach Kevin Sumlin and offensive coordinator Dana Holgorsen. Spavital became familiar with Holgorsen’s offense while working at Houston, and when Holgorsen became the offensive coordinator atOklahoma State in 2010 he took Spavital with him and gave him the same position of graduate assistant. Spavital was an essential piece of Holgorsen’s coaching staff at Oklahoma State because he was the only person on the staff familiar with the offense that Holgorsen ran. Spavital helped teach the new offense to QB Brandon Weeden(Weeden is nearly two years older than Spavital). Thatseason, Oklahoma State went 11-2 and Weeden was third in the nation in yards per game and total yards as well as sixth in the nation in touchdowns.[1][2]
When Holgorsen became the head coach at West Virginia, before the 2011 season he took Spavital with him and made him the quarterbacks coach. While at West Virginia Spavital coached Geno Smith. Under Spavital’s coaching Smith would break numerous West Virginia, NCAA, and bowl records.
When Texas A&M offensive coordinator Kliff Kingsbury left Texas A&M to become the head coach at Texas Tech, A&M head coach Kevin Sumlin offered Spavital the position.[3]At Texas A&M, Spavital started as the co-offensive coordinator with Clarence McKinney and was the quarterbacks coach. In the 2013 season he coached the reigning Heisman Trophy winner Johnny Manziel.
Me likey. Holding 5 without a even a TD is the sort of top level D we haven’t had in a while! We all remember the glory days when the D was mad as wet hens when the O caused them to miss a goose egg. That’s what we need to get back to.
He would certainly have much more talent and speed to work with than he did at UW.
I’m always skeptical of Dean Blevins. This was the same guy who said Norman PD was on “a man hunt” for Joe Mixon a few months ago. Pretty awful journalist, IMO.
That being said…I HIGHLY doubt LSU would hire Mike. As “FootballScoop” reports:
“LSU: Les Miles is in Dallas interviewing several defensive coordinator candidates, according to Baton Rouge Advocate LSU beat writer Ross Dellenger. Dean Blevins of News 9 in Oklahoma City reported Saturday that Oklahoma defensive coordinator Mike Stoops is among that group, and that Blevins expects Stoops to be offered the job tonight…and then take a couple of days to consider. Coaches we have spoken with about Stoops’ potential fit say “that would be a drastic change from the type of coach on Les’ 2014 staff”. We’ll keep you updated as we hear more. For what it is worth, sources we spoke with this AM said they didn’t expect a hire today.”
IF/WHEN he leaves he is taking J F-ING H with him right?
Wow i guess Mark Stoops never called back?
Anybody think Mike could be leaving because he lost his team earlier in the season and he might not be able to re-establish buy-in with the defense? I don’t think this defense is bad. I think they didn’t believe in what they were being asked to do and I don’t think they liked playing for Mike.
Well, I’m pretty sure they didn’t like the cushion they had to give WRs.
I don’t even give that kind of cushion to people who smell bad.
At least ONE of them sure as heck didn’t!
Correct…
Think you are correct here
Know for a fact he lost his entire team out here in Arizona and they were all glad to see him go so they could start over. Many of them said they felt rejuvenated after he got canned out here. Mike is by no means a player’s coach.
You are spot on!!!! This is the exact problem!!!!!
This !
I’d ask Julian Wilson that question.
I believe Tony Jefferson said so too
Hmm…Well, best of luck to Mike if that happens. I’m not very up to date on all the DCs out there so it’ll be interesting to see who would possibly replace him.
How about bringing in D.J. Durkin, LB coach to be co-coordinators with Monty and promoting Chip Viney to DB coach (Don’t know if Durkin ran a 4-3 or 3-4 at UF). Then hopefully Heuple moves on and possibly Norvell and bring in Lincoln Riley as offensive coordinator and to coach qb’s or wr’s (He’s done both with success). I’d either hire Eric Morris from TT as the receiver coach and make Riley the qb coach or hire a qb coach and have Riley handle receivers. You’re infused with young innovative coaches that will probably be head guys soon and are hungry and have proven track records.
Did you see where Durkin’s hometown was? Youngstown, Ohio. Crazy how many coaches are from Youngstown. Bob may know his family.
Michigan already hired him, i believe..
Not yet, but it’s close. Jake Spavital is a name to watch for OC.
He is an Oklahoma boy….Tulsa.
Why does everybody want an inexperienced Viney to coach the most terrible portion of the defense? I don’t get it…..
This !
Because I believe the problems were related to scheme and motivation. I believe an aggressive defensive coordinator with youth and young assistants that can motivate the players and get them to buy into the scheme is what is needed. Vinegar brings that plus keeps some continuity with the players.
It might actually be better with the SEC’s run heavy offenses. I think he’s going to be successful there…
I dont know it seems everyone even the sec is running the spread and alot of hurry up. What on earth could Les see in our D that he would want MS??
His gameplan against Alabama?
I think we forget that Bama scored 31 points against us.
Well damn i forgot about that!! My bad!! :o)
Just ask Mike, he’ll tell ya!
Pelini and Mike are similar in style and personality, and Pelini had significant success on Les’ staff once upon a time.
This is how I feel about Mike and Les, I think it could be even better chemistry than Bo and Les.
Please please please let this happen!!!! I don’t know which would make them happier, this or jameis and the entire top of the sec west losing. What a great start january is off to
One down………….
One to go.
Just one? Lol! you’re far kinder than I………..
I’m such a nicer person on here than I am in person. I can really think before I act, and I like staying in the middle on all our sooner topics.
We talkin Beers?
people. haha.
Oddly I’m not drinking tonight. Been too long a weekend already and I’m already kinda tired. Getting old I guess…………
Yep. The high isn’t as good and the hangover is worse! What’s up with that? Another thing wasted on the young…
Bet he coaches them to a top 5 defense.
Yeah. I actually think he could.
I really think he will. No facts, just pure speculation. The change of environment would do him good. He has been going after the same big DBs and honestly the SEC’s backfield leaves alot to be desired
Maybe. They have great talent there, and sometimes a fresh start is all that is needed to rejuvenate a career.
i know we really need some new blood in the coaching staff but how many recruits we gonna loose if MS and JH are replaced? Im really starting to like how our class is shaping up.
I say none. I think it will show the recruits that the Head man wants to win.
I don’t think either MS or JH have personalities that a recruit might miss.
Zero! My bet is would help recruiting. Especially a new OC.
Holy Schnitz!! If this is true, this is great news!! We will have a change at DC, the biggest problem area on the team!!!
Well…….there is the OC as well….just sayin.
Mike needs to take this. It’s win-win for him and for Bob. If Mike stays and does no better, Bob has to chop him. Mike leaves on his own terms, now, and Christmas at the Stoops compound is saved for years to come. At the same time, think he does better in the sec with more ‘traditional’ offenses to defend and a great talent base from which to draw players.
Les and Mike are both Ohio natives and we’ve all seen how Ohio coaches look out for each other and have some strange sort of fraternity.
..board’s getting excited……….what if he stays or isn’t actually offered……..
Shh!
Yeah. Then we get to look ourselves in the mirror, and continue living. And wake up tomorrow morning with a hangover from wanting this to happen so badly.
http://vimeo.com/41787619
Watched this in its entirety. What a refreshment. Comic relief.
The fact that he is interviewing is significant. It means that he is looking to leave. Sounds to me like he and Bob had a discussion and decided that it was best for all if he found another job. Not saying Bob fired him, just that they both realize that if Mike doesn’t succeed he will take Bob down as well. This may be Mike’s way of paying Bob back for all the chances he’s given Mike in the past.
I couldn’t imagine being in a position of firing a brother.
Helping or giving him time to find a landing spot would seem the only approach without creating a family conflict.
EasTex,
I might sound like a ass but the one thing I would make perfectly clear to any family members that I would hire, I would tell them if they couldn’t produce results they would be gone. That’s why I wouldn’t hire family after the first time even if they did a good job somewhere else. Sometimes it never ends well for anybody.
I don’t think I would ever hire family for that very reason.
Yeah that just wouldn’t turn out good. Not at all…
Family is more important. Mike is a good DC, it just didn’t work or he didn’t have enough time his second stint. If he stayed I wouldn’t be upset. However saying this, we would need a better coaching group around him.
Just like you don’t suddenly lose your accuracy as a passer, you don’t suddenly lose your ability to be an excellent coach.
If Mike goes it will probably be the best thing that could have happened for him and those around him. Not only could Bob not treat him as a normal employee, Mike couldn’t treat his boss the same as he could someone else; made even more difficult having been a HC himself.
Like DC in AZ said, he lost the team and once that is done, there’s no returning. JH has done the same. That’s why I put that piece on Spavital. All of this is interesting and Bob is so connected and respected that he will come out shining like a star.
Bob has many good, possibly great, years still to go.
To be successful you have to make a good hire first, train them properly and hold them accountable for their performance with regular evaluations. A good employee wants the feedback from an eval.
“A good employee wants the feedback from an eval.” Nice.
Done a lot of hiring and firing through the years.. The worst employees were always the ones that wanted to argue about their evals and couldn’t accept constructive criticism.
Yup. Done some management, that is a meaningful indicator.
Got one of those right now that I’m fixing to send packing. Hate to do it but sometimes you have to cut your loses and improve your situation.
To me, the way this is unfolding, Stoops could have almost a new staff like when he first started. Wow, that would create some massive energy.
As his brother one might think he would step down to take the pressure of his brother, my two cents
It’s a football family. They’ve all been through this long enough to know that it’s a business. Even if Bob just straight up fired Mike, I don’t think it would make things too awkward at Thanksgiving.
I think its the Stoops at Kentucky turn to take Mikey for a while.
18 minutes. I hope Mike is on time for this interview. I would love to just be hanging around for the conversation, eaves dropping.
Seems like Mike’s ideology is better suited to stop the slow pace traditional SEC offenses. This would be a good move for all parties involved I think.
Which SEC teams not name LSU still play slow-paced football? That league is practically BIGXII 2.0 these days.
Arkansas, Georgia come to mind.
Maybe Vandy and Tenn., Florida (but not for long) Alabama half of the time,
It’s not that there’s no slow paced teams but most of them run a pro style. 3 receivers at most and not much hurry up. Even auburn isn’t really a spread team. Mizzou and tamu I think are still the only ones with mostly spread tendencies.
It’s Heupel and Kish that needs to go But if Mike goes then I know Kish is gone. So half the problem, is gone.
Exactly what I was thinking. Could be an almost total overhaul as I could see BJW also being reassigned somewhere else within the OU Athletics Dept. Mike has to get the job first though.
Pray Les hires him. Kill two birds with one stone there.(Kish)
I don’t know about that. Kish sucks at recruiting but he seems to have done a decent job turning a former safety and another who was a DE into promising linebackers.
I agree blaster and I honestly do believe he’s great a materializing Recruits into great LB’s. But as a coach Recruiting is apart of your job. You can’t expect Montgomery to do all your recruiting for you.
No way on pelini,,,,his antics on the sideline make him a jackass in my eyes….go find some young and upcoming stud and throw 1 million dollars a year at him….the good thing about being terrible on defense is when you’re the new guy you can really add to your resume…
Pelini is HC of Youngstown state. Not sure he would quit that for DC anywhere…
Agreed. Not a guy I would want coaching my kid.
Hypothetically, if a “classified ad” were posted for the DC job, ideally, what would the requirements for the job say?
Crimson Curtain.
Build it.
Press or go home!
Well played..
If it isn’t broke don’t fix it.
The defense was fine early on when we were agressive in getting after the qb then we stopped.
When we played sucky teams?
It would have worked better than whatever the hell we were trying to do against the better teams.
” not from Ohio”?
Agree 100%! And must never been on staff previously. Fresh meat!
……poster on os…..”Just in case this is true, what is the number we are supposed to call if we have
an erection lasting longer than 4 hours?”
haha. That is good comedy there.
haha.
hahahaha.
Lmao
you already got comment of the year and it’s only 1/3/2015
…….I found it, didn’t create it, but it was a good find……
I didn’t think I could laugh more about the fact some school would take him off our hands. Well done, sir!
Seriously Les Miles is my least favorite coach in all of college football. If he hires Mike I might actually grow to like him.
BR549
Miss Cleo at psychic hotline.
1-800-LES-MILES……..ASK FOR THE RABBIT WITH THE HAT!
Need to move quick i think if MS goes. Show recruits stability and maybe the new guy/guys can bring in some more before signing day.
Does OU go after Clancy Pendergast possibly if Mike ends up at LSU. Pendergast worked with Gary Gibbs at OU under Switzer and has experience. Any thoughts?
I saw his defense in Kansas City. Hated it.
Ed ogeron co-dc at OU ….. I would be happy
with Monty? Might work.
Indeed I think it would work, gives Monty more experience in that role, and Ed back in the coaching ranks, both recruiting animals
So who coaches LBs and DBs? Viney for DBs, but who else?
Yep vines to db, and maybe cj ah you for lb?
Would imagine we would have quite a few coaches that wouldn’t mind working with guys like Striker, Alexander or J. Evans. Will be interesting to see how this plays out in the coming days and weeks should Mike get the LSU job.
X10000
BJW.
I could live with that. He was popular at USC so he might be able to get guys to play hard
Yeah, he saved that USC season after Kiffin was fired.
Plus he probably knows Cali recruiting grounds well, and you know Bob loves players from Cali.
USC defense is/was nasty. What hurt them was lack of depth.
DJ DURKIN plz. He’s an Ohio native, coached with Harbaugh, Meyer, Muschamp… Been Florida’s D Coordinator for the last two years. He’s the guy IMO.
Did he not coach anywhere this season? Wouldn’t blame him if he took the year off after the USC thing.
Don’t think he coached anywhere
This ! Guy can coach, flat – out recruit, and players love him.
he is a bit of a prima donna. I can see him looking for a HC position.
Josh huepel for dc.
He seems to know how to stop an offense.
baddabing!
Mike takes Kish with him. We hire DJ Durkin to be DC and LB coach. Find someone for the secondary…
Viney for db
He’s a baby. I think OU needs some more power
This ! No more novices and coaches learning on the job, aka Heupel
or kittles
Interview with Les:
Les: So Mike, tell me how you beat Alabama?
Mike: I thought you said it wasnt like that, that you were interviewing me for real, not just for my gameplan. You said the salary was 1.1 million for DC.
Les: Oh NO! MIKE! Miiikkeeyyy! Its not like that, I’m telling you. But how can I take you seriously for the position, if you don’t tell me how you were able to shut down Alabama. I have to know if you’re genius or not, like “mad hatter” style, before I welcome you to the team.
Mike: Okay, yea, that makes sense. Well, we did a little of this, and a little of that, and yea Striker and Geneo were good… Basically, the SEC is/was just all propaganda. Okay, okay, I got that one from Brother Bob. But you see, it worked.
Les: Okay Mike, thanks! Well, that concludes the interview. We’ll be in touch.
Mike: Wait, What? Don’t you want to know how I ran my team this year? Les? Les?
Anyone hear the name Mike Entz come up ?
New to me, he is?
North Dakota State
He’s climbed the ladder quickly, however not in the power conferences
good montra
North Dakota State
Matt Entz, currently at ND?
North Dakota State
Que’s gonna be a big’ol boy.
Dang son, he already is a big’un.
names?
Marquise Overton, Will Sunderland, John Humphrey and PJ Mbanasor.
thx
Welcome.
Who’s the coach? Is that BS or JH? Have they gained that much weight?
Seriously?
It’s the ‘dead period.’
dead weight period as well apparently 😉
Sorry dude, just wondering. Didn’t think about dead period. Just thought that since it was all the OU commits, then the guy in the middle was with OU too. I guess it’s just their all-star coach.
Either one of their AA game coaches or the guy who posted this on twitter, not sure.
Gundy, methinks.
You guys seriously don’t know what the OU coaches look like?
Geez!
stole the words right out of my mouth!
Haha. I think its a writer.
Sunderland has added some good weight.
Read these guys have been tearing it up. PJ is impossible to throw against, OL can’t contain QUE, and Humphrey’s speed is really testing CB’s.
Also some comments that Sunderland was in beast mode, making them pay with big hits.
We heard the same thing about last years recruits. I am going to wait until they have real competition.
Like Perine and Parker? You are being a little to pessimistic in light of the fact that it is not only OU leaning people praising the recruits. Last year, Rivals for example, gave the class a lower 3.2 average star rating. This year, it’s already at 3.67 6th best in the entire country.
4 star LB Roquan Smith must love Durkin. Wherever Durkin lands probably gets him
I think durkin to Michigan is a done deal or close to done.
And he’s probably looking for more than 500k and that’s not what ou is into for assistant coaches. They’re too concerned with the budget so basically they’re not willing to water their investment (plant) in Bob, by not wanting to pay for top assistants.
Boren will probably be the downfall of the football program more than the coaches and players.
Josh made 605k this year and Mike made 850k, don’t think 500k is the problem.
True, but the point remains. You look at the top coordinators in the country and the price point these days is getting over $1M. MS looks to get a pay raise of about $300K-$500K if he gets the LSU job.
Mike is paid 850k + bonuses. Not sure where you are getting your facts from? I am confident that OU will shell out money if they want to improve.
But you want monty and bedenbaugh to get raises and hire another 2 quality guys to be coordinators. My point is they cant take care of the current good assistants and bring in high quality guys above them.
And that is my bad for saying 500k without looking up what the current guys make but I was just going by what JD runnels said that lsu would give Mike 1/2 a mil more
And also the other side of that is “if they want to improve”
Boren will call the shots as far as how much money will be shelled out and from what I’m hearing there is an issue with the budget.
I don’t know if the current slump in oil/gas prices effects the OU budget, but my royalty checks have been dropping about 10% a month for several months, with further declines anticipated.
It may. The news reported the state budget is effected by the gas prices.
Maybe BS ought to have his pay frozen at 5 mil and push the salaries increases to the assistants. I am sure he could get by for a while.
I’ve read that OU has third highest payroll for football in FBS.
Well it sounds like they’re going to try to cut back
Hire Durkin then, we need LB’s that bad around here.
It’ll be interesting to see if he does well at LSU. After BV doing so well at Clemson, if Mike does really does well at LSU, and we continue to struggle on defense, then it raises some real questions about how much Bob is interfering with the game plans of his coordinators.
That’s a lot of ifs and buts, where are the candies and nuts?
Okay, sure. Does anyone have any idea if it is that case that BS is overriding his coordinators a lot? JH has been really inconsistent in game planning. He’s called a lot of really good ones and then some really bad ones. It’s confusing as to why this happens.
I agree it seems he has been inconsistent, then there are times it seems a dropped pass or a missed block here and there, could make him look like a genius.
We know for sure he overrode Boulware on punting again to osu and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
I have since heard that Boulware wanted to re-punt too, contrary to Bob’s post-game statements.
We can get rid of Heupel as QB coach, I’m think Bradford will be looking for a Coaching job soon.
Probably not that soon. Doubt he’ll be resigned as a starter, but he’ll still be in the league for awhile as a quality backup.
FYI: article on DJ Durkin
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2015/01/4-star_lb_roquan_smith_says_if.html
Release the check book.
Great, but we are still ignoring the elephant in the room……..”Josh, how do you feel about looking at other coaching options?” – just say’n
I would not ask that man a thing,,,I’d just tell him to go and go quickly
He’s being moved to qb coach. I’d say that’s where he belongs.
Speculation on your part, rumors, or fact?
I was told I was making up rumors when I said Mike Stoops was gone, so I’d say this is a rumor.
Gosh I hope you are right. He always was a good QB when he was just that, a QB coach. When he was promoted to OC, everything went in the tank
“We’ll see” 😉
But what QB has he brought in that has performed lately? I am not in any position to know anything about his coaching or recruiting, but from my armchair, I am not seeing results in the recruiting or coaching of QB.
You know what, totally okay with that. Sam Bradford was coached by him……..so there is that.
I wonder of JH even likes being the OC?
http://blogs.theadvocate.com/tigertracks/lsu-coach-les-miles-in-dallas-meeting-with-candidates-including-ou-dc-mark-stoop-according-to-report/ – amongst the candidates interviewing for the job, Mike doesn’t seem to be the front runner. But, thats my take. Will be interesting to see who Miles hires.
As was mentioned elsewhere, whether or not Mike actually gets the LSU gig isn’t the news (so far as OU fans are concerned)- it’s that Mike, if indeed interviewing, is apparently cleaning out his OU office.
Game on, we’ll see.
Dude, stop teasing!
This. Why is Mike interviewing if he is sticking around?
Bingo!
The comments under the article are funny, don’t think the LSU fans are as excited as we are.
Might be tough-going for Mike. Wouldn’t doubt that he lands on the Youngstown staff with Pellini in the long run.
Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
If mike stoops leaves, does it affect PJ at all?
I don’t think mike leaving will have any effect on these recruits. It would be uncertainty that would IMO so if mike and other coaches are gone…then talks with replacements needs to be going on already.
Besides I think bob is the type of guy who probably told haughton and mbanasor what was really going on. Remember when we hadn’t been hearing mike’s name on the recruiting trail, I’m sure bob and everyone knew then that mike was out the door.
I want to know if the guy from oui, who had/received inside info, if his info was spot on?
He is a professor at OU, so he probably has some connections. We will see soon.
Did he give you the info? I’m not trying to find out the specifics but just to see if the rumblings get out sound the same as what he had 2-3 weeks ago
U never know with 18 year old kids. Didnt BJW tell somebody your DB coach is standing right there (pointing towards B stoops).
Yeah.
JR is out there tweetin about Spavital rumors now… Lots of smoke…
who is JR?
Jim Ross.. Big Sooner booster.. Man in the Black Hat…
WWF.
link to the tweet?
@JRsBBQ: Yep. Spavital name in some mix. Historic day possibly at Switzer Center. I’m still in Tokyo.
haha. Jim Ross.
Btw.. I think JR already deleted the tweet.. Since he’s in Japan, he may have not known some of this was just rumor.. If boosters like him tweet info like that, you know there are people talking…
Who are the largest OU boosters?
Do not want Jake Spavital. I don’t make the call though. Still, as a fan, don’t want Spavital.
Who is your guy? Durkin? Entz?
This is offense. My guy….hm. Lincoln Riley’s ECU squad is pretty darn good in the passing game.
Oh yeah. Too much coaching blather!! My bad. Love Riley.
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs
Riley is a little too Leach for me.. I’m not sold on Spav either… But hes got some juice in Texas & around the country with high school offensive players..
That is his upside, the recruiting juice. I watched ECU close today. He has created a well disguised spread offense. It is very simple: the complexity happens after the ball is snapped. I understand though. I have the same feeling about Spavital and where he has been.
I was really impressed with ECU’s WRs for the most part. Hardy is a monster.
Yeah Hardy is incredible. It would be hard for me to choose between Cooper and Hardy if I had them both on a draft board.
Spav loved Hansen… & he could pull Murray with him too… Man, i don’t know… Crazy off-season ahead…
Most surely is.
! You got it.
Spav would be for offense.. He’s the OC at A&M..
Whoops! Good catch. My bad.
I wouldn’t have a problem with that. He’s been at programs with successful offenses. Under holgerson and sumlin, but I would like to know what other options are out there. Plus I would like a guy with a history of a power run game or pro style.
I’m with Zack. I like being able to throw the ball, but what I love to see is guys like Perine run over defenses. It’s fun to watch and it eats up clock so the D can get rest. win/win I’m not taking all blame off of M Stoops but when a defense is on the field too much they’ll eventually get exposed and exhausted, which in a few of the games this year that was a major issue.
I just want to see hires on both sides of the ball, if in fact both co positions open up, that know how to make adjustments and know how to maximize the talent they have.
Watching our backs run over guys is a lot of fun, but we need a passing attack that can win us games if we are going to be competitive in the little 12 again. Baylor like offense is what we need again. Baylor runs a lot and so could we.
We aren’t going to a pro style offense.
Probably not but pro style to me means more physical. The more physical team still wins championships. Baylor may win the big 12 but they will never be able to out punish a physical team.
That said, for me it doesn’t mean we can’t go to 4-5 wide in certain situations. In college they have so many roster spots so it baffles me that a team has to have one true identity on offense and on defense.
To me college teams should find their base, excel at that but find ways to be multiple.
As physical as the OU RBs are OU could run out of the double back (not I formation) set. Perine, Ross, Ford are all decent blockers and could lead for whoever is carrying the ball. Moving Flowers around as the H back gives diversity and can help pick up the blitz or allow for Ford to slip out to the slot. Mixon might be that player who is much like Murray was- move around to create miss matches with linebackers. I am just rambling. The run game is good to go, just need to get that passing game going.
nooooooo
This isn’t terrible. I’d like to see his recruiting record and such. A&M didn’t have a good year but they’ve had good offenses the previous years.
The guy can recruit his butt off.. I would definitely take him.
So if mike, kish and bjw are all gone next season. Who replaces all of them?
I think viney could become the DB coach but I’m curious if this clay Mack guy I hear about all the time, if he’s interested in being a DB coach.
And I wonder if Monty could coach the dline and the linebackers since according to what I’ve heard, Monty worked a lot with the olb’s
Viney CBs or CJ for dline. BJW is going to Merv’s spot and kish will be gone for sure if mike leaves.
Monty to linebackers and the DC though?
Hire a DC that has experience with the 3-4. We will lose 3 D coaches if mike leaves.
If Mike goes, I wonder if JM gets at least co-dc coordinator post on recruiting alone.
As far as LSU, Pelini struggled with us then did fine at LSU then so so with Nebraska. Venables struggled living up to expectations with us but is now doing fine with Clemson. Mike has his own issues (scheme has been questioned by more than us armchairs) but there is a case to be made that we just don’t have the same players on D and haven’t in some time. Some stars for sure over the years but not the depth etc.
Someone else proposed that maybe it’s Bob meddling too much…
See my reply to Easton above RBear. Boomer!
I think its about fit. After discussing this and reading this topic for awhile now, I think its about that ‘perfect’ fit. Mike is a talented D-coordinator, but he simply is not the best fit for the situation.
I agree with statements that Mike is better suited for an SEC kind of play.
But there is a continued problem with us Sooner fans that leads to unnecessary grief on issues like this. The problem is that there is a discrepancy between our tradition/achievements and our branding/ talent level. They are not commensurate.
Based on our history/ achievement/ statistics, we are a top 3 program post 1950, no doubt about it. But I think we overestimate our “national brand” in today’s TV market era and while we are close to a hotbed of talent in TX, we are not in it. So in terms of sheer talent and brand we are more like bottom part of top 10-15 give or take, which ironically or not is where our recruiting ranks most of the time.
So as fans, it is natural for us to expect top 3 performance when what we have to work with is more top 10 to 15. Leads to a lot of gnashing of teeth. I’ve said this before but Nebraska is a program that will never be a power again in my estimation and are a chief example of this discrepancy issue (tradition vs current realities in sports).
I guess what I’m saying is that while I agree Mike is not working out for us, there are talent issues that we don’t like to accept because of our storied past.
I completely agree.
Would like to get Charlie Strong. He’s a good DC and, evidently, can recruit well.
Rex Ryan 🙂
Lmao! That ship had sailed…….then it sunk to the bottom.
That because Pellini and Brent and and eventually Mike will have better to coach than those at OU. It really is that Simple….
I somehow doubt that Les Miles has tunnelvisioned in on Mike Stoops as his next DC. I’m not saying it’s beyond the realm of possibilities MS is offered the job at some point, I just believe there are still others to be considered.
I’m not going to get too excited yet. Besides, the way our luck has been running in Soonerville, Bob would probably tap BJW and Papa Kish as co-DC’s.
Penn State DC, USC DC, among others being looked at by Miles.
That makes sense, especially Shoop. He’s a smart dude and that’s been around the block a few times.
Off season has plenty of news coming up.
I look at it like this, Mike isn’t a first round pick anymore and LSU would be a first round selector- I look for Mike to slide to around the 6th round and land at Youngstown with Bo. Just a hypothetical of course.
The only thing that comes to mind is that Les is trying to be proactive as the spread attack and HUNH is working its way into the fabric of the SEC.
I was fine until you put that unhappy thought in my head.
Haha, but I was only sorta joking.
Sure is a lot of smoke suggesting otherwise.
Indeed, but it’s still somewhat of a head scratcher. I understand the spread and HUNH are becoming more common in the SEC and Les needs to be proactive, but Mike Stoops has really struggled against the spread since he reclaimed his position at OU.
Will somebody PUHLEEEEESE tell Lester the molester, that Josh Heuple is available too. Hells bells, I’ll help him pack.
I wonder what the possibility is we will go back to a 4 man front?
I’d say good.
Some things I’ve been hearing is Mike will probably be back but they will use a 4 man front. Kish is gone. BJW is going to take an administrative position. Josh will be QB’s only or gone. Not sure about Norvell.
There is so much going on it’s starting to make my head hurt. I think sometimes I care too much about college football and my beloved Sooners. My life would be a lot less stressful in fall/winter if I didn’t live and die Saturday in Crimson/Cream.
Summation statement. Yep, same here.
So much so I’m fixing to go to bed and sort it out early in the morning. Maybe something big will happen while I’m asleep. Goodnight all!
hahahaha. I’m going to keep Sooners football where it belongs for me: my hobby, my main leisure time appreciation, a topic I enjoy talking with others about.
Same here. It’s a life time love affair for me. We’ve been through it all, from the magnificent 47 streak, through the Gomer Jones years, the magnificent 70’s and 80’s, the horrid 90’s.
Wouldn’t trade those memories of great years, games and players for nothing and couldn’t have appreciated them as much if there hadn’t been some downs with all the ups.
My real life is full, my Sooners are in the enjoyment/entertainment aspect.
That is great ET. Thanks, I love full life.
Ain’t that the truth!!! Oh well, it is what it is. 🙂
Alot of folks talking that Mike is gone for sure. So much going on right now, obviously we know nothing. But we do know something is changing.
Thinking either Heupel or Norvell has got to go! To bring in a new OC/ playcaller need one of those guys gone. Norvell might be odd man out! I’m kind of leaning toward Heupel staying and coaching QBs as a co-oc and bringing in a new guy to be co-oc/playcaller and hiring a wr coach as well!
I’m liking some of the talk about going to the 4-2-5 def that TCU runs! Could be very succesful against Big 12 teams and would help depth issues at LB! Won’t know much for sure though till the coaching carousel plays out!
Didn’t we try the 425 Mike’s first year back and the more advance version called the 416…how did that 425 that tcu runs work against Baylor
Whose defense actually worked against Baylor this yr?
Isn’t that the point..having a defense that stops Baylor…34 is better against the run…tweak the coverages a bit and better or more experience personnel and we’ll be fine
Yep
Well I agree they had difficulty stopping Baylor but then so did a lot of people but overall the past 3 years TCU has had a top 20 defense every year and OU hasn’t had a top 50 defense so they must be doing something right with that 4-2-5!
I see your point but just like our offense..it theoretically should have performed better as well. It takes dif variables to make any defense work well…either recruiting, tech, scheme on back end, front end, injuries…and such…if we have the right personnel then heck yeah…we did improve greatly against the run so it seems like the front seven was an improvement…IMO we could tweak some coverages..tighten em up a bit with maybe some safety help along with pressure from dif areas..etc to disrupt the quick passing game….looks like the best defense against Baylor is a good offense…keep em off the field and allow the D to rest rather than be out there all day long…
Yeah you are totally right. I am a dallas cowboys fan and being able to hold onto the ball and keep other teams off the feild TOTALLY transformed the Dallas D. I think our offense next year could do the same thing at OU. I am just ready to be dominating again at OU and dictate to other teams what they have to do instead of constantly reacting to what they do to us!
Right there with ya!
From Mike’s Twitter account…
huh? Nothing here.
Nothing here meaning you can’t see his retweets?
Different device. Can’t see it on my computer.
I cant either
Can you guys see this…
no
A Macbook. I was just trying to avoid having to retype it. May be someone else can relay it.
No worries, the leaks are turning into small creeks now. This thing is going somewhere surprising I think.
Jesus Christ. I’m pretty sure the only coaches on staff that actually utilize their twitter would be Callens, Viney, and Montgomery. The Stoops bros have somebody from the football office running their accounts– why else would they always tweet cheesy things?
Bill Bush, rather.
Are you posting from a tablet or phone? Still can’t.
yep
He retweeted JM and BB some pro OU stuff. Doesn’t sound like a guy who is going anywhere.
Yeah, point taken.
or: paying his respects and support explicitly.
I hope so
Yes.
I think it means there is nothing being tweeted on his account, at all.
no.
i see it now- maybe Blevins is being punked again then.
Maybe Mike doesn’t operate his “official” Twitter account. I’ve read that Bob doesn’t operate his.
Possibly. Whether he is leaving, staying or someone else tweets on his behalf it seems odd to me to be tweeting the other coaches at this time. If you want to send them a message, text them.
Got it. I need to reload the page to get these up.
Yep got it after reloading. Thanks
Here’s more fuel for the rumor mill, if it was previously posted I apologize
@SECfootball 3 hours ago
LSU expected to offer DC position to Oklahoma’s Mike Stoops http://sds.to/1HqrDa9
Nope, first.
Interesting….supposedly he has already been offered the job.
This article just quotes the one linked to by TFB. Does not add any new info.
Yeah yeah, we hear you Bob. There are a few other articles that shed further light on the subject. http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/lsu-football/lsu-expected-offer-dc-position-oklahomas-mike-stoops/
That was totally accidental. Lets talk angles Bob. What is your angle on this piece of news?
let it lie
Yup. Done.
What are you talking about angle? Just pointing out that the new article only quotes the Blevins article. And by the way the second article you linked is just a different link to the same article.
“That was totally accidental. Lets talk angles Bob. What is your angle on this piece of news?” I know. I laughed at myself. Time for me to let this rest.
I actually hope it isn’t true and there is no new information.
Answer me this: what does Les see in Mike that we are missing?
Hes from Ohio.
He’s got a hole to fill….we have a plug.
blaster read my post above…
SEC doesn’t field the types of Offense that we do in the Big XII. If Mike has better talent to work with and pro style offenses to scheme against, he would be insanely successful
Agree…Mike will do good at LSU. Calling it right now.
I remember Jimmy Johnson when he was at aggie, he could not even compete on the same field…Then he jumps up and the Miami Job is his then he begins a 3 yr. dragging of my Sooners . He had better players, So does Brent so will Mike…It really is that simple….
I was not happy with our defense this year at all. But I was also one that wasn’t happy with Venables; maybe it’s the players not the coaches? Who replaces Mike? How difficult would it be to upgrade him? Not defending Mike, just wondering if we can do better…
Steveinok..DING we have a winner..LOL Seriously though it is a combination of things but no doubt if goes to lsu, he’ll have a much better talent pool than what he’s had around here for the last 3 yrs..
We’re loaded with talent and more on the way, and we recruit out of high school systems that have college/pro schemes. Defensively, we have the wrong “DC”, and arguably for the last several years. Time for new defensive leadership, and it will be an easy sell based on our rich tradition and current and upcoming level of talent. Boom Boom!!
I would disagree that we are loaded with talent on defense, and would argue that we haven’t been loaded on defense for about 6-7 years now.
You can disagree and argue all you want, we have the talent necessary to compete at the highest level, year in, year out. The work isn’t over once you have them on campus, it begins. We’ve had defensive players drafted consistently over the time span mentioned in my original post, and at key positions that make a difference. Our guys look lost, not prepared, and unable to adjust, all responsibility falls on their leadership.
Agree totally, not loaded but very good talent at all positions. Most of our guys are the very best or close to the best their high school teams ever produced.
Agree here…not loaded. We have some talented players but to say we are loaded is not correct IMO.
Last reply on this thread and I’m done, specifically to address my choice of wording. “Loaded” may be a strong word, and I didn’t necessarily mean that we get 20, 5-star kids every year. We do however, get high quality players consistently (is high quality a better description?). By the way, I’m not sold on the player rankings anyway, because how do know if they have the heart of Rudy? Anyways, we have sufficient talent, these kids need leadership, direction, and inspiration.
Agree 100%
You bring up an excellent point, but who is it that’s bringing in these players. The coaches! So, I’d say the coaches need to be replaced. I would also say the read and react philosophy, or only give up 10 yards to avoid giving up 50 is a losing strategy. That was BV’s philosophy, and that has become Mike’s philosophy for some inexplicable reason. I was stoked when I heard Mike would replace BV in 2012. The results got better in 2013, but regressed to what they were under BV if not worse. I can’t think of a logical solution beyond replacing the coordinator who is responsible for that defense. Hopefully, this time, Bob will hire the best man for the job and not some family member or friend that he knows really well.
I wasn’t totally disappointed with them. I thought the line played pretty well overall. They were beast against the run. It was the secondary that was just terrible.
Think there’s any stock into hiring Jake Spavital as the new OC at Oklahoma?
Doubt we’d get him from TAMU. He has a good thing going there and we won’t outbid them. If he goes anywhere, then it would be to take a head coaching job.
Why didn’t he go to Tulsa
He was a candidate, but I don’t think he was offered.
And see, I heard he listened & was no thank you… Fwiw NOT from anyone connected w/Ou or tamu
This. After a 5-loss season, OU is perceived outside of Norman as a sinking ship. After their 5-loss season, gAggies think they’re on the up and up.
We’re looking in to it.
I have a strange feeling about this Mike Stoops to LSU. I think it may be a hoax floated out there by their agents to make Mike look good. Watch. Mike will mysteriously withdraw his name from consideration and stay at OU allowing Bob to proclaim how great Mike is that LSU wanted him but he chose to stay. I think it might be a total sham.
That’s an interesting thought. I’m not completely sold on Mike going to LSU either. I love reading everyone’s theories. I guess we’ll all know soon enough. I’d be interested to know at this point, what is pure speculation and what is fact (but not yet made public).
We’ve heard Mike Stoops to LSU. We’ve heard Norvell gone, Kish gone. We’ve heard BJW to Merv’s job. Has anyone been able to confirm that Merv is retiring? We’ve heard that Josh will just be dealing with the QB’s and not calling plays. Will be interesting to see what, if any of this happens.
Everybody’s like “Mike Stoops to LSU” this, “Heupel to QB coach that”, and I’m over here like, where can I get access to Coach Schmidtty’s workouts?
And why is there no talk of Tiffany Byrd (“Coach Tiff”) to OC? She’s not getting a fair shake in this discussion!
Lesticles is just sticking it to OU fans, no way Mike gets hired at LSU
For entertainment purposes only. Enjoy.
http://lsu.247sports.com/Board/59425/Contents/Things-you-will-do-if-Mike-Stoops-is-hired-34418630
Sounds like they really would love to have Mike.
“Become the worlds largest soccer fan! Maybe even talk with a British accent.”
Too funny. Thanks for this.
Hilarious
That’s just good stuff
…..from that site…….”Eat a bullet!! Oklahoma fans are begging us to take him!”
I’ll bet they’re planning a parade.
“Send les 9000 candy crush requests a day on Facebook” lol
Saw one yesterday that said, “Les! Please dont Stoops so low!”
So this is off subject but are we gonna get a scattered thoughts after the OU’s first conference BBall game vs. Baylor? Or do we only do that when we lose?
I noticed that trend too
I know this is thefootballbrainiacs but I like this hoops team and I enjoy the ramblings and thought it’d be nice to have some good things to talk about.
He either had the ‘trots’ or that E. Carolina player whopped him good.
OOPS!
Hey, someone grab me a towel…..and a couple wet wipes!
can’t unsee, thanks
Sad day in Mudville: my favorite ESPN personality, Stuart Scott, passed today.
http://espn.go.com/
Certainly a touching video. I grew up to sportscenter with him on it as many of us did. Awesome personality. Adios Amigo!
He was the reason I watched ESPN three, four times a day as a teenager. He made ESPN what I loved about ESPN. Mr. Stuart Scott. Thanks for posting Sam.
Seen an article that 247 has JM ranked as 3rd best recruiter in the nation. Sorry if that was already mentioned.
There is a Lord. Can’t stand bad defensive teams. Only game excited me this year was WVU absolutely horrible D all year. Who are a few names to replace Mike for us?
DJ Durkin if Michigan doesn’t get him first. Good DC and great recruiter. We had him and JM recruiting we could land some awesome classes IMO
Nothing’s official yet. Not sure if he’ll get the LSU job or not. Not sure if him leaving is certain or not. If he does, the only names that have been thrown out there are by other fans having their “wish list”. Clancy Pendergrast, Dave Aranda, Ed Orgeron and DJ Durkin.
Jim leavit also who would be a linebackers coach. Has NFL experience and I think will have ties to stoops from kstate.
I was curious who might have ties to him from K-state or Fla… or hell, even Iowa. any others anyone can think of?
I wouldn’t care if it’s someone he’s worked directly with. I just hope it’s someone that is respectable and can get the team to buy in.
Although it doesn’t seem a move to lsu will really happen for Mike.
London Fletcher says “No.”
Where would those 2 have crossed paths?
You’re thinking Jim Haslett (sp?)
I think this would be the perfect time for Jordan Esco and the Brainiacs to make a post of who each would pick to fill the coaching positions!?
-(maybe)New Playcaller
-Defensive Coordinator
-(maybe) TE/Special teams coach
-LB coach
-DB coach
I would love to hear some names too but not gonna happen unitl an opening is official.
Esco made a wish list a couple weeks ago.. It may be up on the TOP..
I remember that now that you mentioned it and Jordan linked it, Thanks!
Probably needs to be updated as I know at least one of the guys I had listed has already taken a new job. But for the time being….
https://thefootballbrainiacs.com/ou-oklahoma-sooners-football-coachin-staff-bob-stoops-past-excusing-present-follow-up
Jordan already has.
Would love to know how Blevins can say ‘will be offered the job’.
Sounds like a ‘feeling’ from one of his sources inside OU. Not something to act like is a given.
If his source was within LSU (extremely doubtful) it may have some credibility.
His journalistic integrity is on par with National Enquirer.
The part about being offered the job, is the deano inside having to make a bold statement to see if it perhaps comes true. Although by putting “will be offered” out there, it will make Bob look worse when lsu doesn’t offer and Mike stays on staff at ou.
Agreed. I’ve seen a lot of cold feat OU fans on Twitter about it. Missing when gone Venables effect.
I’ve wondered if someone might have planted this store to help get rid of Mike. Hard for him to argue to stay when he is “looking for a new job.” No proof, I could just see someone doing that.
I don’t see anyway he could possibly know that.
So are we all anticipating tomorrow is “announcement day” from Norman?
Just keep in mind, I/we said ‘Monday at the earliest.’
Good to know. There was speculation from others, not TFB staffers, about Monday. Just curious what the feeling was.
I don’t believe the coaches are expected back now until Wednesday, fwiw.
Maybe it’ll be a commit from Tyler Murray?
Maybe MS resigns?