Fehoko Thoughts On The Breiden Fehoko Committment

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Yesterday, we posted a note about star DLine Breiden Fehoko committing to Texas Tech. During this recruiting period, I’ve developed a good relationship with Breiden so I wanted to chime in and offer up some thoughts since he was at the top of Oklahoma’s DLine board.

Over the weekend he and I had a few exchanges, and I got the sense that he was having a great time in Lubbock on his visit. I didn’t read an incredible amount into the fact he didn’t make it to Norman for his previously planned unofficial visit, only because we had discussed the possibility of him not being able to make it in prior to his trip to Lubbock.

The fact that he committed to Texas Tech also didn’t necessarily shock me. I got the sense, while speaking with him, it was a very real possibility he would end up committing. But I’d be lying if I said the timing didn’t surprise me. I really thought it would be one of those situations where he’d wait and take a few officials before making his commitment. Breiden has told me — and I know he has told Coach Montgomery — that he will take an official visit to Oklahoma. But the question is can Breiden really choose a different school even, if he wanted to?

I want to be clear that as I write this, I do so with Breiden and his family in mind. We are an all-access, free site, and we build real relationships with these players. So I always want to be respectful them, their families, and the things share with me. While at the same time, give our readers insight into the recruiting of a major Oklahoma target.

Fehoko was one of the top DLine recruits on Oklahoma’s board, but he was also a guy that Montgomery personally loved and really believed he could get. And Breiden has a tremendous relationship with the OU DLine coach. Breiden often sent me unsolicited notes about Montgomery, like what a great guy and coach he is. Coach Montgomery was always real with him, he visited him and his family on multiple occasions, and he never pressured Breiden. And without going into too much detail, I can tell you that Breiden breaking the news to Montgomery was both incredibly difficult and emotional. He was clearly happy about his commitment to Tech, but also torn as well. It was very hard for him to give the bad news to Coach Montgomery, because of the real relationship they had built.

But the same great qualities in Breiden that made him wake up in the morning and have a very emotional conversation with Montgomery before he committed to Tech, are the same qualities that make Oklahoma’s task here that much more difficult. Because, in the end, we can rattle off all the stats about OU’s superiority as a defensive program, or a traditional football powerhouse. We can talk about scheme, NFL prospects, the fact that it’s getting to be almost impossible to double team any OU DLineman because of the wealth of front seven talent, etc. But at the end of the day, Breiden has family ties to Tech.

Now if those family ties had been limited to a single player, then I think that would be easier to overcome. Especially given the fact that Norman isn’t an unmanageable distance from Lubbock. And what I’m about to say may sound like I’m discounting the great time and relationships Breiden has built at Tech, but that is not my intent. I know he has a real love for Tech but putting that aside, it is my understanding that he has an older brother that is a GA on staff there. I can only imagine the pressure that his brother must have been feeling.

I know coaches on various staffs around the country. I also know GAs, and many of them are under a lot of pressure to get recruits. And I certainly don’t mean to imply that his brother put pressure on him. I’m sure his brother and family have his best interest in mind. But when you take the combination of the energy on the Tech staff in general, the great time Breiden had, one brother on the team and another on staff, it’s a tough combination for any other school to compete with. Put it this way, I would not want to be the GA on staff with a brother who was one of the most talented DLineman in the country that ends up signing somewhere else.

Having said all that, I think if Oklahoma is going to continue to recruit Breiden — and I’ve been told that they are — they are going to have to win over a family member. I have no doubt that if Breiden makes it to Norman, the odds are good he’d fall in love with Oklahoma. And, in my opinion, he’d probably like it even more than Lubbock. That isn’t meant to be an attack on Texas Tech, but the simple reality is there is a reason Oklahoma rarely loses a player to the Red Raiders.

Oklahoma is a traditionally elite football program in every way, and the magnitude of that, in my opinion, would turn Breiden’s head. Couple that with the fact OU may have one of the best and close knit teams/locker rooms in the country (in fact, the relationships the players have with each other at Oklahoma was one of the primary reasons Steven Parker signed with them last year),the relationship he has with Montgomery, and you’re looking at a perfect program for a player like Breiden. And I have no doubt he would see that. The development at Oklahoma is second to none, and there might not be a better DL teacher right now than Jerry Montgomery.

But even if Breiden fell in love with all that Oklahoma has to offer, he’d still be forced to let somebody down. And in this case, it would be the Tech coaches, and potentially his two brothers as well. So, again, if OU is going to continue to recruit him then the key is not going to be convincing Breiden (I think he’ll love OU). It’s going to be getting the mother and father to see that Breiden, and ultimately the Fehoko family, will have the best opportunity at Oklahoma. And in my opinion, the key to that is the NFL.

There is no question in my mind that Breiden is an NFL prospect. Heck, he is already NFL strong. But he’s also smart, quick, and impressively mature for someone his age. The question is will any of that matter if you play at a place not known to develop NFL DLinemen? Or at a place where there isn’t enough help on the line, thus you’re forced to eat double teams every play?

If I’m OU, that is my angle. And it is important to note it isn’t an insincere one, it’s authentic. I’d say the same thing to my own little brother. There are players who could be marginal NFL guys, but they’re never going to take care of their whole family. After all, making it to the NFL doesn’t just equate to being set for life. Breiden, however, has 1st round, multi-million dollar type talent! OU has to make the sincere case to him and his family that you don’t risk that potential on a good sales pitch about the “bright future” a program may or may not have. You don’t risk that even for a family tie.

You go with the surest bet…you go to a school like LSU, like Florida State, like Georgia…or like Oklahoma. And we all know “there’s only one Oklahoma.”


  • Zack

    It would be nice for ou to still go after him but I wouldn’t want Montgomery spending too much time on him. I would rather him continue to go after Mckenzie and settle and try to land one if not both of them. And there’s other big dline recruits out there I’m excited for Montgomery this year and just like at corner he may have to turn someone down that decides late.

    • fatbamm

      You mention McKinzie…have you read his recent tweet about how he and Breiden would be beasts next to each other at Tech? Tech is very much in the mix for him as well and there have been hints, from him, that they lead. The #1 rivals QB in the country also picked Tech over OU, Alabama, UT and many others a couple of weeks ago. Does his brother coach at Tech too? There seems to be a seismic shift going on in Lubbock and to excuse this commitment away by citing “family pressures” is short sited IMO. It may make sense to look at the buzz Kingsbury and staff are creating on the recruiting trail. That’s the real story.
      All that being said…I’m not delusional. If kliff could get Tech anywhere close to OU as a football program it would be nothing short of a miracle. Lots of respect for the history and consistency of excellence at OU. LOTS

      • ToatsMcGoats

        You obviously have better ties to Fehoko then the author of this article…he’s not exactly speaking from speculation here, he has actual substantial conversations with the kid.

        • fatbamm

          Unless the multiple quotes from interviews he’s given in the past 48 hours are bogus I will rely on his direct comments rather than what this guys says he said. To each his own.

  • hOUligan

    My understanding is that Polynesian families have very close bonds so it is no surprise whatsoever that Breiden is choosing to be with brothers in Lubbock, and in so doing, likely making Mama very happy. That is stronger than any downside Lubbock or Tech has or the relationship he has built with a coach.

  • WilliamJack

    BOOMER! Well said!

  • mobilehoma

    Tremendous amount of butthurt by the author in this article

    • Super K

      The author isn’t bothered at all but the truth definitely hurts I see.

      • MarkDuffman

        Give it a rest.

        • ToatsMcGoats

          You could benefit from you own advice…

      • talcha32

        If the author wasn’t bothered, he wouldn’t have posted all those paragraphs trying to explain away how OU lost to Tech by claiming it was only family ties.

    • ToatsMcGoats

      Tremendous amount of vocab from the author of this statement.

    • ND52

      You’ve got enough jealousy to make a new profile just to troll other program’s message boards.

    • Stikboy

      “Mobilehoma”? Hilarious coming from Lubbock fan… HAHA

  • TRUTHSEEKER

    Sam isn’t a GA at Tech, at least yet. He’s there finishing his degree.
    And to be honest, I was shocked Brieden was considering Tech after Tubervile kicked Sam off the team his senior year and pulled VJ’s offer (he was a silent commit to Tech that ended up at Utah). Mike Smith, LB coach for Tech, recruited Sam when he was at Hawaii and had a relationship with the Fehokos.
    No doubt in my mind the family ties helped make this decision, but you’re off your rocker if you think that Brieden was pressured into this.
    I would do a little more research next time buddy.

    • Super K

      I could literally quote Fehoko to counter what you’re saying but I won’t. What I will say is that it’s silly IMO to believe he even considers Texas tech without family ties.

      • talcha32

        Haha, typical Sooner comment there.

        • j l

          im sure some random tech fan on the internet knows more than someone with obvious sources. Just go away troll, no one wants you here.

        • Malicong

          I would say typical guy that JUST TALKED TO FEHOKO comment there.

  • Zack

    Who let the trolls in? First posts and you’re ripping the site/author?

    • BR

      preach it Zack….agreed!

  • mac

    Right because Texas Tech has NO ONE in the NFL. Welker, Crabtree, Ramirez, Vasquez, Bird etc. No to mention Amaro who is about to be a 1st or 2nd round pick at TE.
    By the way, stop acting like Brieden is Romeo and OU is Juliet and its some horrible tragedy that they cant be together.
    Get used to Texas Tech being a player for big name recruits, Kliff has some special things happening in Lubbock. Doesnt surprise me at all that Brieden picked Tech over OU. Especially when you consider that Mike Smith and Brieden are closer than Montgomery and Brieden ever were. Pressured? Seriously?

    • Super K

      I didn’t say that was the only reason.

      • mac

        I didnt say it was the only reason you cited. I was just highlighting a couple of the reasons that interested me.
        I just find the entire article rather laughable. You act like Brieden was ordered to pick Tech simply because his family has ties there. Hate to break it to you, but that is terrible research on your part.
        Brieden made it pretty clear that Tech is where he wants to be in the big picture, not just the family tie. Tech is suddenly a major player in the college footbal world. Young staff, high flying offense, swag to boot.
        Tech is turning heads. Which I know you will choose not to believe, buts its the truth

        • OUZach

          “Suddenly a major player in the college football world”

          • mac

            I know its hard for you guys to say out loud OUZach. But Tech might have hit the jackpot by making Kingsbury its coach.

          • Zack

            Let us know when he wins a big 12 title. If there were still 2 divisions it would say let us know when they win the south. It’s not going to happen. Tech could have the best recruiting class each of the next 4 or 5 years in the big 12 it still wouldn’t make a difference. And considering they won’t have that kind of run with recruiting it’s irrelevant.

          • jgome21

            and you know this how……?

          • Zack

            Well history tells me they won’t win a big 12 title and it takes way more than just getting good players. You have to have great coaches and them when those coaches leave you have to be able to get more good coaches. I hate UT but I would be more on board with them having success under strong than I would tech under dingleberry.

          • MarkDuffman

            That’s what I said about Baylor a few years ago.

          • Zack

            Did you say the same about osu? Similar arcs probably similar falls as well it’s not easy dealing with success and expectations. Soon boosters are going to be mad at 8-4 at baylor and if you are right and tech is on the rise to win one big 12 title I bet they fall the same way as osu and Baylor as well when 8-4 or 7-5 and the independence bowl are not good enough

          • SoonerfanTU

            Do you know how many schools say that every year? How many flash in the pans there are? How many schools achieve a little success, but never come close to achieving anything that an OU or UT achieves? That will be TT. Take that to the bank.

          • talcha32

            No doubt you guys were saying that about Briles until last year as well. And Gundy before that.

          • ToatsMcGoats

            You’re right. Gumby’s domination of OU cannot be argued with. LOL.

        • Super K

          Sorry I disagree and think your statement is delusional.

          • mac

            lol, fair enough. Have nice day Boomer Sooner.

          • MarkDuffman

            It doesn’t matter. Put on your big boy pants and move on. How about spending your time focusing on our targets who aren’t committed somewhere else?

          • ToatsMcGoats

            Because that’s how recruiting works? You might want to stick around and read some of the articles on this site..you might learn something. Kingsbury has been there for one season and had marginal success against poor teams…yeah, “major player”…

          • ND52

            Why did you even bother reading the article @MarkDuffman:disqus?

        • shawn

          I’d give it at least a season or two more before calling tech a major player in college football. They’ve had one mediocre season under Kingsbury, and the Loi’s haven’t been signed yet. I hope they do great in the future to help the overall big 12 conference perception but for now they’re what they’ve always been marginal at best

          • MarkDuffman

            Unfortunately the whole Big 12 is marginal at best right now. We can thank the goofballs in Austin for running off a quarter of the conference.

          • shawn

            Can’t really argue with that. And unfortunately IMO it won’t get any better without adding a couple of quality teams which probably won’t happen any time soon.

          • ND52

            To even mention the words “TT” and “major player” is laughable at best. The Miami Hurricanes weren’t accorded such respect even after their first NT.

        • ND52

          “Swag”—–really? Smh…………

    • BigJoeBrown

      Did you even read the article?

      • mac

        All I read was “But, but….we are OU. How could you not pick us?”

        • BigJoeBrown

          So….no then.

          • mac

            Look, I get it. Montgomery and Brienden had a close relationship and all that jazz. wonderful. I get it, OU has an obvious history with NFL talent. Great.
            I dont care to argue. I just think its ridiculous to act like Brieden picking Tech is some sort of tainted, pressure driven act. Dude wants to be at Tech.

          • Zack

            “Dude wants to be at tech” said no one ever.

          • mac

            well so far Stidham and Fehoko have said that and its only April 15th.

          • Zack

            You’re right they’ve got 2 recruits inked…oh wait that’s right it’s April and they’re not signed and when tech is out of contention for the big 12 title by October 1st there’s going to be some change of heart.

          • ToatsMcGoats

            Exactly, it’s only April 15…

          • OUZach

            Dude wants to be at Tech because of his brothers. Don’t argue for a second if they weren’t there that Tech would even remotely be a choice. Lubbock is the worst college town in all of college athletics. Very few go there other than it being close to home or having a tie to the program.

    • MarkDuffman

      Congrats on getting Fehoko but don’t overreact. I think the author of this article should have just waited 24 hours before posting it and let his emotions come back in check. Tech is a fine program.

      • ND52

        That’s done absolutely nothing in football since joining the Big XII.

  • jgome21

    Welcome to the Red Raider family Breiden! #ontherise

    • ToatsMcGoats

      #ontherise? I thought it was #turntup? Either way, you pose next to unis, we pose next to natties.

      • jgome21

        since yall won natties recently right? . Yeah, we haven’t won the Big 12 yet, but with Kliff and Co. it’s only going to be a matter of time. D. Webb about to make some waves in the next upcoming seasons.

        • ND52

          Exactly @jgome21:disqus. When’s the last time you even won a conference title outright? Can you remember?

          • jgome21

            I can personally care less about OU’s past.

          • ToatsMcGoats

            Of course. It’s because you can’t argue with it.

          • jgome21

            OU obviously has much bigger history and success than Tech. Just saying I think we can build something here with Kliff and Co.

          • ToatsMcGoats

            Fair enough.

          • John Garner

            It’s going to take a lot of building. Kliff might want to start with the Tech defense instead of the trophy case.

          • Ryan Harper

            Just to clarify, you are a fan of players that have won Titles(very good teams I might add). You have not won anything.

          • ToatsMcGoats

            Well, since you know exactly who I am…either way, let’s say that I haven’t played…do you know how taxes work?

          • Ryan Harper

            If you count your taxes to the State as your contribution to titles than this convo is over. If you are a player or coach then I stand corrected and I hope you get a lot of likes on your facebook with with your national title pic. I know I would “like it”.

          • ToatsMcGoats

            Thanks, I guess. BTW, public universities would be nothing without taxpayers…

          • ND52

            And yet another jealous loser creates a profile simply to troll on a message board. Pathetic @disqus_TvUybA7IH8:disqus

          • Ryan Harper

            Jealous, Loser, and Troll? Explain why I am any of the three? Have you read all my comments. Nothing was negative. I found my way here by googling Fehoko.

          • ND52

            Apologies @disqus_TvUybA7IH8:disqus, I thought you were here for the same purpose as @KyleWilson:disqus….

          • ND52

            Lol! @jgome21:disqus Only a person who’s school has no history would say something like that.

            Ask any USC or Bama fan how they feel about tradition.

          • ToatsMcGoats

            Wait, wait, I must have misunderstood. You said that you CAN care less…that means you do care. Shouldn’t this say that you “couldn’t care less”. Oh well…

          • ND52

            Suuuuuuuuure you don’t. You’re here for no reason whatsoever………

        • ToatsMcGoats

          Where’s your natty? Where’s your Big 12 titles? We’ve got 7 natties…we’ve got so many conference titles that we have to add on. It’s cool. When you don’t have evidence, it’s fun to be presumptuous!

    • KyleWilson

      Breiden will do great at Tech. Congrats to you guys for landing him!

  • Jake

    This is an embarrassing article for our school and our alumni. We are OU, who cares where this young man commits if he doesn’t want to be a Sooner then why waste your time on him? Sour Grapes

    • Super K

      You’re way overreacting if you think any article on any blog that covers OU is embarrassing the entire university and the alumni.

    • shawn

      Trevor Knight was a Texas fan and wanted to play there should we have not recruited him either or the countless other players who have flipped at the last minute to OU who were originally committed elsewhere

    • MarkDuffman

      Jake, there aren’t enough people who read this for it to be embarrassing to the school. My biggest concern is that Breiden reads articles like this trashing Tech and any chance we had at flipping him disappears. I don’t ever see Ohio State, Texas, and other national powers writing whiny articles like this when they lose a recruit and IMO we shouldn’t either. If a player doesn’t want to be here then we shake hands and move on.

    • thedeez

      Sounds like a fake account.

  • MarkDuffman

    This makes us sound like a bunch of butt hurt whiners. We’re better than that and don’t need to go around knocking other programs when we lose a recruit. If this player and his family truly have a love for Tech then I hope none of them read this blog; IMO it will only make them that much more steadfast in the decision he made.

    • Super K

      Fehoko was OUs primary target at DL. It made sense in my mind to address it. It was a big shock to the staff as well. Have no problem with you disagreeing with how I addressed it but it shouldn’t surprise anyone that we are writing about it.

  • Adam

    He’ll be able to get to the NFL just fine from Texas Tech, even on the defensive line.

  • TrueTexasConserv10

    Tech alum, season ticket holder & fan. I thought the article was rather benign, not sure why the snide back & forth comments. The only part of the article I believe is way off is the reality of Breiden flipping his commitment are less than 5%, but I understand the perspective and the audience the author is attempting to placate. What he doesn’t take in to account is the fact that Breiden (and his family) has already developed a close relationship with Stidham and both are out actively and heavily recruiting FOR Tech. So the whole “flipping commit” thing is a stretch once a kid not only commits to the coaches of a program, but also to his other class/future teamates & then becomes the active recruiter for his side of the ball, but whatever, I get it. Honestly, outside of a few “but WE are OU” type of snide remarks (which is fine & expected), I thought the article was fine & just another banal write up on a prospect.

    • Borba22

      I’m guessing this article is being posted on some Tech boards for all the Tech people here…

    • Super K

      I don’t disagree. I think the chances of flipping his commitment is VERY difficult. I was just theorizing the only way I think one could go about it.

  • Arnold

    His brothers all go to and work at Texas Tech. He is not going anywhere.
    Guns up

    • Big Higg

      Lol either go puke on yourself or quit trolling OU sites. Nobody cares about your opinion here. OU ain’t out til he signs with Tech next NSD. Don’t forget it.

  • Borba22

    Seriously though, why all the Tech fans? The article listed solid reasons why he committed to Tech (strong relationships with coaches, and family ties) and also listed why if he made a trip to OU he’d like it (strong relationship with the coaches and family atmosphere). Literally no reason to get so insecure and spam the comment section with hate.

    • BigJoeBrown

      Great way to sum up the article.

    • MarkDuffman

      Agree. Super K wrote a whiny article trashing them in a backhanded way and now their fans are all being whiny.

      • cpearc00

        The author had sources to back his article and, IMO, went out of his way to try not to trash Tech or its fans, but you, on the other hand, can’t help but comment on several of these posts calling out the author. Who’s whining again? Since you keep bringing it up, how about you get over it and move on?

        • talcha32

          His sources apparently claim his brother Sam is currently a GA, which is incorrect. So obviously his sources aren’t extremely accurate.

        • KyleWilson

          What sources? You sound like a complete idiot.

          • cpearc00

            I do? Let’s see here….here’s how reading works…

            “During this recruiting period, I’ve developed a good relationship with Breiden so I wanted to chime in and offer up some thoughts since he was at the top of Oklahoma’s DLine board.”

            “Over the weekend he and I had a few exchanges”

            That was literally less than 50 words into the article, but I guess that’s too much to read for you.

      • ToatsMcGoats

        Your reading comprehension is wanting…

      • Big Higg

        How did he trash Tech? Plain & simple truth – OU is going to churn out more NFL talent than Tech, has better facilities, has the tradition, is an elite football program, etc. that’s not knocking Texas Tech. its the truth.

        • Adam

          I believe he has the same opportunity to make the NFL from Texas Tech as he does from OU.

          • Big Higg

            I think Montgomery could coach him up better than just about any other coach in the Big XII at least.

        • MarkDuffman

          That’s all a matter of opinion. The NFL talent is indisputable, but what a recruit thinks about tradition, elite programs, etc is a matter of their opinion. OU is elite, and as an elite school we don’t need to write articles explaining that we are elite and other schools aren’t; those articles usually come from pretenders.

          • Big Higg

            Uh ok it is his opinion yes. But he hasn’t even visited OU yet. Opinions are subject to change especially after official visits.

  • eeemoeeemoeeemo

    You’re right, Breiden wouldn’t have committed to Tech had it not been for family ties, but the family tie has nothing to do with his two brothers. His family tie is with Mike Smith, Tech’s co-defensive/linebacker coach. He’s been a good friend to the Fehoko family since he was a coach at Hawaii, his relationship with Breiden is the reason Tech was able to get him.

  • Younglanham

    You forgot to mention the key player in this recuitment. Mike Smith. Mike has been close to the family since Brieden was in middle school. He was the reason Sam first visited Tech. He had a lot to do with VJ considering Tech. And…he is an ex NFL player and NFL coach. He knows what it takes to make it in the NFL. He turned down the Jets this year because he wants to be a part of building Tech into a national championship contender.
    Believe it or not, it is possible for someone other than OU to win the big 12. Who won last year? Oh…Baylor. The year before? Oh…KSU. The year before that? Oh…OSU. The bottom line, not everyone should choose OU just because you are OU. Sometimes there are better options!

    • ToatsMcGoats

      Until Tech reaches the caliber of institution that OU is, OU will always be the better option. Sorry, but it’s just the truth.

      • talcha32

        If that were true, OU would never lose players to lower schools.

        • ToatsMcGoats

          Not true. See article above.

        • Borba22

          wow… some people just took this article for waaaay more than it actually is..

        • ToatsMcGoats

          Not true. See article above.

  • talcha32

    Look at all the OU butthurt in here.

    You guys keep telling yourselves that there’s no way OU loses a guy to Tech if you want. Fact is, as good as Fehoko’s relationship was with Montgomery, it was better with Mike Smith. Mike Smith is the reason Breiden is committed. Not the fact that his brother Sam could be a GA in the future.

    • cpearc00

      You’re right, I’m sure the author totally made up his sources.

      Whatever makes you sleep better…

      • talcha32

        Haha you OU guys are about as delusional as it gets. Sorry Mike Smith and little ol Texas Tech beat out the mighty OU for their top DL target.

        • ToatsMcGoats

          NSD is in April now? Who knew?

        • cpearc00

          Thanks for not responding to what I said or what the article clearly laid out.

          • Ryan Harper

            I think talcha32 meant to say Smith’s ties with the family go back to his coaching days in Hawaii. They love Mike Smith. I’m not here to argue the upcoming of Tech(time will tell). When I read the article the missing point was Smiths relationship with the family. Not the family ties to Tech. Sam the older brother, quit his senior year and VJ did not go to Tech originally. I think he had a full choice of places to go.

          • cpearc00

            He clearly had a full choice of places to go as evidenced by his offer list. But to totally discount his family ties to the university is a little absurd. I think the author of this article went out of his way to state that Tech did a great job in recruiting Breiden and he meant no disrespect to the program or its coaches. He was just pointing out that he actually spoke with Breiden on the phone and was simply sharing how he felt that conversation went and how OU could continue to recruit him in the future.

          • Ryan Harper

            I didn’t think it was a bad article. I was left thinking the missing piece was Mike Smith. I honestly think recruiting will only get tougher. Depends on the feel of next season if he still wants to jump on board.

        • KyleWilson

          “Mighty” OU hasn’t been all that mighty for a number of years. Their recruiting has been on a slow decline since the Big 12 started taking in water. Unfortunately OU is not a top line elite program like Ohio State or Alabama; the cracks are showing in OU’s armor and I’m not sure they’ll ever be what they were in the 70s/80s again.

          • ohiosoonerdevildog

            Oklahoma has more wins than Ohio State over the last 10 years. So if you are saying Ohio State is an elite program, would that not make OU elite too?

      • KyleWilson

        What sources? You keep using that word as if this is the Wall Street Journal. I know Okies aren’t all that bright but come on.

        • cpearc00

          Someone clearly didn’t read the article so I won’t bother pointing them out, as if they weren’t obvious enough beyond 20 words into the article. Is this how people argue in Lubbock?

    • ToatsMcGoats

      Yeah, family ties mean nothing. You must know him so well…

    • Borba22

      The only butthurt I see is from the Tech fans who felt like coming here and voicing their insecurities. We aren’t that phased he chose Tech, we understand why, but we also understand his recruitment isn’t completely over like you Tech fans are trying to convince us it is.

      • talcha32

        You guys keep holding on to that false hope and telling yourselves “It’s just Texas Tech and we’re OU. No way we lose.” I’m sure it’ll work out for you guys.

        • Borba22

          No ones saying that. You have an uncanny ability to put words in people’s mouths. You’re the only delusional one I see here.

          • talcha32

            Sure man. Just don’t be too upset when OU gets their visit from Breiden and then Breiden shuts it down. This thing is all but over now. And he’s already out helping recruit guys to Tech. Feels pretty good man.

          • cpearc00

            Nice defense mechanisms you have in place. I bet it’s fun to totally avoid the things people actually say and, instead, argue against what you wanted them to say.

          • talcha32

            What’s the point of arguing with delusional people? This entire article was pretty much a “But, but….we’re OU” ramble. It got laughable watching this guy pretend that GA Sam Fehoko (who isn’t a GA right now) had much of anything to do with landing Breiden. His role was nothing more than being a family member with experiences at Tech and, of course, passing along good words about those experiences. Anyone who actually has a clue knows Mike Smith has been all over this from day one.

          • j l

            Gee, i guess we will just have to work with the 2 other top 300 DT’s we already have committed, the horror!

            See ya’ll scrubs in lubbock.

  • SoonerPhins

    Lol all the Tortilla Tossers are out today. Get two recruits and you would have thought they won a Natty. I actually didn’t mind Tech, but you Tortilla Tossers are acting just like Baylol fans after this past season.

    • KyleWilson

      And Baylor has pretty much surpassed OU. Oklahoma football has been waning for a number of years now, and the whole Big 12 is slowly becoming watered down and having more parity. Have you looked at the recruiting rankings the past three years? Not as much difference between OU and Tech/OSU/BU as there used to be.

      Oklahoma football is not like an Ohio State or Alabama. Yes OU has a nice history, but it’s not a dominant program and every year it’s recruiting falls a little bit more toward the center.

      • Zack

        Baylor surpassed ou? They win one conference championship BTW thanks to ou for beating the cowgirls. Then Baylor got smashed by ucf? Ou has let people down with poor bowl performances but they have been in the hunt for titles more than any other team in the last 15 years. I would be surprised if Baylor continues to have success.

        • KyleWilson

          It’s not one game, it’s the bigger picture. If you study college recruiting, look at the trends since about 2009 with OU’s recruiting; it simply isn’t very dominating and isn’t all that much different than BU’s, or Tech’s, or OSU’s. Past history doesn’t win games, players do. We’ve been seeing OU regress a little bit each year, and as their recruiting continues to fall toward the middle we’ll continue to see their results fall toward the middle and see more games like BU last year. This loss of Fehoko to Tech is one more small crack in OU’s slow decline.

          • Zack

            Well considering ou hasn’t had a recruiting class ranked lower than 15th going all the way back to 2008. You can look for yourself on rivals. But recruiting is not always about getting the highest rated players. If you followed ou football you would know many of their 5 star recruits recently haven’t panned out or didn’t reach the potential others thought they had. And same thing goes for a lot of their prized 4 star guys. Look at kameel Jackson josh jarbroe trey metoyer Brandon Williams frank Alexander Jeremy Calhoun. So it’s more about finding guys that fit. Ou has had better 3 star guys than most would think.
            And and Baylor osu and tech are consistently ranked 35th to 50s. So you might want to take your own advise about research. I didn’t see either of those 3 schools break the top 30.

          • KyleWilson

            Exactly – 15th. And if you go beyond the rankings you see more of a focus on quantity rather than high stars. OU’s classes each year have less 4/5 star talent and more 3 star. The dominant programs are almost always Top 10 with a Top 5 appearance every couple or 3 years. OU’s recruiting looks like that of a team that makes the Top 25 on a regular basis, but not that of a dominant program that wins championships every year. The trend is downward for OU, so we can all expect to see more shellackings like the BU game last year. Each year that passes OU exposes another small crack.

          • Zack

            Read what j l said. If ou was was just a middle of the pack team they would finish outside the top 10 every couple of years and have losing records missed bowl games things like that. Top 15 in recruiting as opposed to top 30/40/50 means ou has staying power and is not here one day gone tomorrow.

          • j l

            Rather be 15th than 40th or so like tech is. OU dosent need a top 10 recruiting class every year, we actually know how to develop talent.

          • cpearc00

            Are you really trying to suggest that the recruiting “star system” is an exact science? Shall i name the players OU has recruited with less than 4 stars coming out of high school? How about Sam Bradford, Mark Clayton, and (I believe) Ryan Broyles for starters. The number of stars a recruit has means nothing unless that talent is developed by a great coaching staff. I can also name a few 5 star recruits that were some of the biggest flops. Recruiting is subjective and I trust that the coaches can analyze talent and the abilities of players to fit into a particular system than the generic recruiting websites that cater more to the SEC schools.

          • Big Higg

            Trolling at its finest right here folks. Don’t give in to it.

          • EasTex

            The dominant programs are almost always Top 10 with a Top 5 appearance every couple or 3 years.

            Bogus!
            Ask sMack Brown.

          • Shelby is a Patriot

            Don’t forget Florida.

          • xunilla

            “And if you go beyond the rankings you see more of a focus on quantity rather than high stars.”

            OU last 5 years average signees = 20
            BU last 5 years average signees = 24

            Seems like more talking out your ass.

          • ToatsMcGoats

            Not really. texass has a top 5 class nearly every year, and the suck factor there is off the charts. Recruiting does not always equal wins. Just ask Smack Clown.

          • j l

            You really dont understand what “isnt much different” is do you? Heres some stats for you, over the last 5 years(using rivals rankings)
            OU avg recruiting class- 12.4
            OSU avg recruiting class- 30.8
            Baylol avg recruiting class- 39.2

            If you think there isnt much difference between recruiting classes ranked 12th, and classes ranked 30th or 39th, then its pretty obvious you dont know anything about college football, and are just trolling.

            If you are serious, then next time do some research before running your mouth.

      • SoonerPhins

        Baylor surpassed OU? 21-2 all time OU, Baylor 0 NCS OU 7, Big 12 Titles Baylor 1 OU 8. Your argument is laughable at best. Once Tortilla Tech actually wins something, then you can talk. Baylor actually won something so they have some wiggle room, but not much. When is Kliff putting on the new fashion show to show off the new uniforms? I bet that will get recruits heads turning.

        • KyleWilson

          Yep, surpassed. An all time record has nothing to do with what will happen on the field the next few years. (btw, I’m not a Tech or BU fan).

          If you study college recruiting, look at the trends since about 2009 with OU’s recruiting; it simply isn’t very dominating and isn’t all that much different than BU’s, or Tech’s, or OSU’s. Past history doesn’t win games, players do. We’ve been seeing OU regress a little bit each year, and as their recruiting continues to fall toward the middle we’ll continue to see their results fall toward the middle and see more games like BU last year.

          • SoonerPhins

            “If You Study College Recruiting” ??? I’m going to leave it at that lol

          • leatherneck1061

            You really need to stop. Everyone is laughing at you.

          • ToatsMcGoats

            “An all time record has nothing to do with what will happen on the field the next few years”. You actually just said that facts and evidence mean nothing compared to speculation and presumption. Awesome. Now we understand. Spread the word, brother!

      • j l

        Baylor has surpassed OU? how is that, when OU ended with the #1 recruiting class in the big 12? No doubt theres more parity, but it dosent mean the sooners are down.

      • Borba22

        “Oklahoma football is not like an Ohio State or Alabama.”

        Is this a real statement or a troll statement? OU is a better program than Ohio State and right on par with Alabama.

        “every year it’s recruiting falls a little bit more toward the center.”

        Except when OU’s 2013 recruiting class rose from previous years, so there goes that argument.

        “Baylor has pretty much surpassed OU”

        Interesting since Baylor has only finished above OU in conference rankings ONCE, ever. You must live in a 1 year bubble to actually believe that. Most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.

      • thedeez

        Can we get this comment archived in a hall of fame somewhere? I’d like to remember this one for awhile.

        • Borba22

          Literally one of the crazier posts I’ve ever seen simply because I think he truly believes everything he wrote.

      • Shelby is a Patriot

        Oh, my sides! You’re a funny guy!

      • ND52

        This post is sooooo Baylor: didn’t even win their bowl game yet feels justified in talking smack about a program that just embarrassed the defending back-to-back national champions on nationwide television.

        • KyleWilson

          So what? Baylor mopped the floor with OU. Hell, I think BU just scored again.

          • ND52

            So did UCF! Look stupid much @KyleWilson:disqus??? Haha!


            Making its first appearance in a BCS bowl game Central Florida upset Baylor, 52-42, in Wednesday night’s Fiesta Bowl. The No. 15 Knights were 17-point underdogs at kickoff, the largest margin ever overcome in a BCS bowl game, yet led the No. 6 Bears by 17 in the fourth quarter until allowing a touchdown with a minute left in the game.

            http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/1/2/5265136/2014-fiesta-bowl-baylor-ucf-results-score

      • Travis Coyle

        Whats Baylor record vs OU? I for one have never visited another teams board. Jealousy at its finest!!

    • jgome21

      I don’t think any Tech fans ,including me, think we have won a Natty because of our early success in the 2015 class. We are just optimistic that we can build something new with Kliff and Co.

  • Steve Johns

    Super K: Looks like your post has created a nice little p*ssing contest. I’d join in but it really doesn’t matter. Fehoko would’ve been a good get and like most all Sooner fans I harbor no ill. Somehow, I think OU will be just fine.

    • Zack

      It woke the trolls up. I have to say something back. All of a sudden college football only dates back to 2011.

      • Steve Johns

        Trolls generate higher post counts for the site, that’s a good thing. lol

        • Zack

          And were now getting traffic from other schools fans too.

      • ToatsMcGoats

        LAWL

    • Super K

      Dude I guarantee you it wasn’t intended. I had no idea Tech fans even read our site. And I honestly thought I was being respectful. I was offering what I believe to be an educated opinion based on my conversations with Breiden and my general understanding of college football recruiting and tradition. And the crux of my opinion is that there is no way Fehoko goes to Tech or even visits without a family tie. Not because Tech isn’t a great program but because they don’t traditionally have success recruiting top Texas defensive players let alone national defensive players. Notice I didn’t write anything about Stidham. Tech always has a good QB and a good offense.

      • EasTex

        I thought your post was respectful and honest, while being directed to OU fans.
        I certainly appreciate your efforts in your posts.
        There will always be critics and if they are from a conference rival…meh.
        [IMG]http://i57.tinypic.com/10mk6kj.jpg[/IMG]

      • Steve Johns

        Don’t sweat the small stuff, anyone that frequents the site knows you guys are straight up. If the Techies felt dissed in some way, that’s their problem OU fans know what’s up. Thanks again for all you do!

      • Ryan Harper

        Your article wasn’t offensive. It was sited by a Tech message board talking about various news regarding Fehoko’s signing. The author of the Tech message board (I would agree) thought the signing had more to do with Smith’s relationship with the family from his time as an assistant for Hawaii. It was a good article and anyone that whined about it was wearing their emotions on their sleeves. Yall have a great website going!

  • BigJoeBrown

    Jeff Orr, are you posting in here?

  • ttuadvisor

    Both OU and TTU have great Universities, college towns, facilities and coaches. Family isn’t the ONLY reason a recruit would have to choose Texas Tech over Oklahoma.

    In fact, under Kingsbury: Jarrett Stidham, Justin Stockton, Daniels, Dakota Allen, Devin Lauderdale(twice), Cody Hayes, Josh Outlaw, and Andre Ross all choose Texas Tech over Oklahoma and none of them have a family member as a GA at Texas Tech.

    Since Kingsbury has arrived in Lubbock more recruits with OU offers have chosen Texas Tech than recruits with Tech offers have chosen OU.

    Oklahoma has a great history and Texas Tech fans respect their on field accomplishments, but you don’t own the rights on being able to develop kids to play at the next level.

    Texas Tech is building up a program and they’re going to do it the right way. Maybe you should come down off your high horse or we can get into how OU became the power that it is through Switzer, John Blake, Big Red Imports………..recent OU news about player academics. Is that something you want to get into, or would you rather just stop talking down about how other programs are building???

    • ToatsMcGoats

      I would rather get into it.

      • thedeez

        I second this notion. Please, go on.

      • SoonerPhins

        I doubt he has anything.

    • BigJoeBrown

      Wait, are you that guy that was yelling racist things to that OSU basketball player?

    • Shelby is a Patriot

      Lol

    • EasTex

      Wait, Brains Gumbo and his HBO Shockumentary are a valid source?
      Nineteen Named Academic-All Big 12

  • BigJoeBrown

    Bless the offseason……it’s going to be a long one!

  • BigJoeBrown

    Well I will say….if Fehoko had a chance to meet the TxTech 2004 swim team, we had even a smaller chance.

  • Zack

    I want to point out that outside fehoko and stidham tech has 4 other commits for 2015 none of those 4 are even rated by rivals. Quality depth will be their issue.

  • Sooner Ray

    Who in the hell left the door open and let all the flies in?

  • rphdenton

    ……long way ’til nsd so who knows………but it would be nice for ou to actually close the deal on a ‘big-time’ dt(s) at some point……

  • JC

    When it comes down to these two football programs, or any football programs, just look at the facts, players in the NFL, coaches reputations, program reputation and the reputation of the Universities involved. The past is what has been accomplished and is the only thing to back ones argument with. One can always say that a program is going in the right direction but you never know until years later looking back at it. So many programs sell that they are going in the right direction and they are the “new up and coming football program”. Very few football programs have been able to emulate consistency through a long period of time. Those football programs are on another level then the other schools, and while other schools can absolutely build up to that level it takes a lot, which can be seen by the fact that not many “non-elite football programs” for lack of a better term, are consistently getting ten win seasons or competing in conference championships or BCS bowls. While there are teams like NIU’s that can go win a BCS bowl game. That doesn’t mean they are an elite program. They had a great year, and if this level of play was continued consistently, maybe the team could become and elite program. However, until that happens with these “non-elite schools” the consistency is not there and the only thing that program can sell is we are going to do this, which is a good sells pitch. Lets just see it happen. My advice is watch the two programs TTU and OU the next 5 years and see who is more consistent, who is winning more high level games and producing more NFL talent. Pointing out the good stuff about one program isn’t putting down another program.

  • Grandadsooner

    It has been a long time since I have enjoyed the reaction to
    an article as much as I have enjoyed the reaction to this article.

  • AlvinMack55

    It sucks that he chose TTU, but I’m not worried. I’m confident that Montgomery will be able to field a solid defensive line class (He already has a good one started). Best of luck to Mr. Fehoko, wherever he ends up playing.

  • John Garner

    Awesome read Super K. Better than the pay sites. You not only spell check and know basic syntax, but you provide a load of detail and insight. Much appreciated.

  • Jeremy Phillips

    The guy has every reason in the world to go to Tech.. let him go & move on.. no need in wasting time & resources ala Deondre Clark..

  • Zack

    Tim settle is on campus today apparently. If we get a commitment from him that would be great.

    • SoonerPhins

      From his twitter it appears to be that he is on campus.

    • cpearc00

      Again? Wasn’t he in Norman on Saturday?

      • SoonerPhins

        He was at the spring game, but maybe he didnt get to see all the campus.

        • cpearc00

          Well, that’s encouraging.

  • Sooner Ray

    It’s not even my birthday and you guys hired some clowns. Thank you, some of them even made me laugh.

  • Shelby is a Patriot

    Man, look at all the fun I’ve been missing!

    • Sooner Ray

      I came in as the smoke was clearing, thought I had used my LT login by accident.

      • Shelby is a Patriot

        *grabs popcorn* *scrolls down*

  • Shelby is a Patriot

    Hey, does this mean Taco Tech fans read this site? Congrats, TFB!

    • Sooner Ray

      They mainly look at pictures.

      • Shelby is a Patriot

        This must be what being “Turnt Up” looks like.

    • KyleWilson

      The site is actually owned by a Red Raider and leased to an OU fan.

    • MarkDuffman

      Hey, the name insults are reserved for people who actually went to one of the schools. T-shirt sooners and raiders don’t have a dog in this. You should be calling your little high school friends names instead of trying to act like you’re a Sooner.

  • KyleWilson

    Lots of butthurt in this thread. You poor Okies sure do get defensive when you lose a recruit. It’s nice that you’ve got your football to be proud of because the average IQ of the posts on here has to be in the single digits.

    Yoo Okies don’t kneed noe Inglish klasses ‘parrantly.

    • Shelby is a Patriot

      Seeing as how you’re the one on a OU site running your mouth, I’d say you’re the “butthurt” one.

      • KyleWilson

        No, I’m just laughing. Do they even teach basic English at OU or all these people just t-shirt fans that don’t have any education?

        • Shelby is a Patriot

          Attacking our English? I take that as a submission of defeat.

          • KyleWilson

            Defeat? Hell, Tech is the one the recruit chose which started this whole mess. I didn’t even go to Tech but am loving all the pissed off country bumpkin replies on here.

          • Shelby is a Patriot

            Tech fans and yourself started this mess by coming on here and whining. You’re very defensive for someone who didn’t go to Tech, by the way. Oh, and I go to High School in Texas and the English isn’t much better (worse).

          • KyleWilson

            Oh Shelby, you’re hilarious. You must have been in debate class in high school because everytime I post something you immediately start typing like a madman (the little notification on here that you are typing doesn’t even get a second rest after I post). Go on Shelby, type some more. Come up with some more clever debate retorts! lol.

          • MarkDuffman

            I think you hurt Shelby’s feelings and he gave up when you called out his relentless debate typing. :(

          • Shelby is a Patriot

            I’m a she, not a he. No my feelings are not hurt, I’m not the one trolling on an OU site.

          • Super K

            Change your tone or leave the site.

          • Shelby is a Patriot

            Funny, I get the same notification from you after I post. Since this argument has gone nowhere I’ll just end it. FWIW, not in debate, and I take the “clever retorts” comment as a compliment.

          • MarkDuffman

            I’m pretty sure if you take his clever retorts comment as a compliment then you proved his point.

          • Super K

            Shelby don’t sweat their comments. I’m going to ban some of these Tech users and any OU fans that want to disrespect others.

          • Shelby is a Patriot

            Yeah, they’re getting pretty ridiculous. Nothing better to do, I guess.

          • ohiosoonerdevildog

            Dont pay attention to those scrubs Shelby. A bunch of internet tough guys who probably work at Wal- Mart. They talk a big game over the internet. Is there a shortage of crayons and coloring books in Lubbock?

          • Steve Johns

            My guess is MarkDuffman is not an OU fan.

          • Super K

            Kyle, you can leave this site or you can be respectful. Whether you agree with the article or not…you’re not going to come on here and disrespect our readers. The rest of your disrespectful comments will be deleted.

          • Sooner Ray

            Delete all their comments and ban all of them. Won’t hurt my feelings. I’m tired of reading the same things over and over.

          • Super K

            You got it. Working on it now.

          • MarkDuffman

            So Shelby isn’t even a Sooner. He’s a t-shirt fan. LOL.

          • Shelby is a Patriot

            You’re right, I can’t go to OU for College, too far and too expensive. So what?

          • MarkDuffman

            Who is “our”? You’re a high school kid trying to act like a Sooner. Tshirt fans aren’t Sooners.

        • cpearc00

          Funny how the only Tech graduate in my class at OU Law was not only one of the least educated people in the entire class (to put it extremely nicely), but was also one of the very few people who didn’t graduate. Coincidence? I’m beginning to wonder…

      • Sooner Ray

        Shelby, when you were being disrespected by these sewer dwelling trolls earlier, I had people in my office and business ran late into the evening so I couldn’t jump in but I seen some of the things they said. Just want you to know that you ARE a sooner as far as anyone here is concerned regardless of what those slugs want to say or think. I know you are tough and stand up for yourself and that’s why we want you on our team here. I had a guy do some background on this Kyle character and it appears he is just a habitual troll on many sites who really has no identity of his own, seems to need attention.

        • EasTex

          Yeah, Shelby, what he said.

        • Shelby is a Patriot

          Oh, hey thanks. I really appreciate it. I argue with people all the time so it didn’t bother me at all. I actually got removed from my English 4 class two weeks into the year for being too “opinionated”, and have to take it online now. Quite proud of that, Lol.

  • 32hometeam

    Lol…that has to be the most “elitist mentality” article I’ve ever read…u grew up going to OU games when I was a kid…I loved OU growing up…but ended up signing with Texas Tech to play football from 86-89…we hated Texas at Texas Tech because of the “we’re better than everyone else mentality”…now you’re acting the same way…makes me sick…Tech has MANY players in the NFL…if you’re good enough, the NFL will find you…to imply that he’s hurting his chances by signing with Tech is ludicrous. ..Tech is building something special…the people in West Texas are some the finest in America…the girls are some of the prettiest in the US…the education is second to none…and it’s a “true” college town…this article just shows that OU is a little worried with what Tech is building. …and the thought of big bad OU falling behind Baylor AND Tech…is something you elitists can’t handle…stay classy Oklahoma…don’t act like UT…

    • Travis Coyle

      LOL

    • Super K

      Where is all the criticism of Tech or West Texas that you imply is in the article? I certainly believe Oklahoma is a far better football program and certainly on the defensive side of the ball. And I also believe that Oklahoma offers superior development and a better chance at playing in the league. But I think most people would argue the same thing. And I stated those things in the context that Tech doesn’t recruit high level defensive players and Fehoko’s family connection was clearly a factor IMO. Breiden told me it was a factor but not the only factor…which I stated! But no where did I imply that West Texas folks weren’t great people or that the girls in Lubbock weren’t pretty. And I went out of my way to emphasize that Tech has a lot to offer. You’re reading into it what you want.

      • Indy_sooner

        K, you’re not going to win with trolls. I got you loud and clear, they will see what they want to see and sh!t on reason and factual information. The funny thing is they were nowhere to be found in other Fehoko posts.
        Like I said yesterday, he’s a good kid and most of us are complimentary of his talent. It IS his decision, but that being said, Tech trolls trying to talk smack when their cupboard has been bare for a while is appalling. NSD is a long way away folks.

      • ttuadvisor

        “And I went out of my way to emphasize that Tech has a lot to offer.”

        —–
        Can you enlighten me on where exactly this occurred? Only even vague mention of this I found was you said the Tech staff has “energy”.

        Can you further enlighten me on your statement of “the simple reality is there is a reason Oklahoma rarely loses a player to the Red Raiders.”?
        ——
        By my count, since Kliff Kingsbury has stepped onto campus more players with Texas Tech and Oklahoma offers have signed/committed to Texas Tech than Oklahoma. Although, it’s closer to even than some big Texas Tech advantage. Regardless it’s not even close to a “rarely”.

        • Steve Johns

          That’s more props than I would give to a rival. This is an OU fan site, what the hell do you and the others expect? Congrats on the commitment… if you can hold on to him until Feb.

          • ttuadvisor

            I never said I expect OU fans to give props to Texas Tech, I was just asking Super K to expand on his statement that he went out of his way to emphasize Tech has a lot to offer in this post.

            i think the issue Tech fans take with this post is that Super K completely whiffed on the real reason behind this commitment and that was Mike Smith.

            Mike Smith is a guy who knows how to develop players. He was so coveted by the NY Jets that Rex Ryan flew down to Lubbock and offered him double the pay because he was a key part of the NY Jets defense.

          • Steve Johns

            You guys are all singing the same song, regarding Mike Smith, get over it and move on.

          • ttuadvisor

            Ha, done.

            Good luck on the upcoming season. I have OU as a one loss Big 12 champion this year. Looking forward to another good one in Lubbock.

          • Steve Johns

            Good luck to you guys as well.

        • Super K

          Perhaps a “a lot” was a stretch. But I avoided attack Tech and defensively that was a difficult thing for me to do. I praised Oklahoma and emphasized that it’s a better destination for a defensive target. If that’s offensive I’m sorry. Outside of Stidham I don’t recall players y’all have beat us out for in the last recruiting class or this one. And I can tell you right now you won’t get Mbanasor this year despite the fact that his coach is a TTech alum and fan. And its unlikely you’ll get Haughton.

    • Malicong

      All it takes is one Tech can to turn this great site into a paysite comments section. TFB goes way out of its way to be respectful of all programs and the coaches recruiting these players. Even when some of us go off track a little and insult the other programs, the Brainiacs themselves do not participate.
      That being said, Oklahoma should feel “elitist” because it is elite. Tech can not say the same. Nearly every AQ school has players in the NFL, but not every school has 1st round draft picks, All-Pro’s and HOF’ers. Oklahoma checks all three boxes. Sorry you feel it is insulting for Oklahoma fans to believe that the school that produces big time talent is better than the school that year to year doesn’t.

  • Travis Coyle

    Great article. Its awesome having someone in the know letting us know how it played out. I agree with your statement about going to a school that can develop Fehoko.

  • Super K

    Ok starting ban folks now for the disrespectful comments. Be civil or leave. We don’t have time to moderate. Like you all, we have real work to do beyond this website and we aren’t going to tolerate the attacks or keep editing comments. We get it…some of you don’t like the article. Move on with your lives. If that includes a stop by our site again in the future…welcome. If not, have a great life.

    • Sonny Schovanec

      Super K you have been doing these blogs on kids who are on OU’s radar but commit somewhere else since day one. You guys build relationships with these kids and when they commit whether it’s with OU or someone else you write about it. It says a lot about a few fans from Tech who freak out about a rather harmless blog that is based on what the kid has told you. I would say act like you have been there to the Tech fans who have posted on this sight today but it’s apparent that you cant because you’ve never been there. I can see how a guy like Jerry Orr becomes a school’s number one fan. Keep doing what you guys are doing FB’s, and if I’m a TT fan I’m hoping that potential recruits don’t see this blog.

      • ttuadvisor

        Super K insinuated that Fehoko didn’t have a choice but to commit to Texas Tech, he would be developed better under Montgomery, and that Tech rarely beats out OU for recruits. None of that is factual. What’s wrong with Tech fans questioning the accuracy of what’s written about Texas Tech???

        Jerry Orr isn’t Texas Tech’s #1 fan, I’m not even sure a Jerry Orr exists.

        Why would Tech fans care if a potential recruit sees this blog? Is this blog influencing recruits? If a recruit reads this blog/comments and is swayed one way or another about where they’re going to spend the next 3-4 years of their life he’s probably not the type of individual that’s going to fit in well with this Texas Tech program.

  • A. G.

    What a journalist. Remove every single Tech comment (even the non-hateful one) and leave all the comments supporting the article. Bravo comrade, bravo! Say hello to Stalin for me. Bring on the “ban” hammer and sickle!!! Next time do your homework and learn about their relationship to Mike Smith you one dimensional ass clown. FOU

    • Steve Johns

      Feel better sis?

      • A. G.

        Yeah. Thank your mom for me.

        • Steve Johns

          You may go now

    • Super K

      Who said were journalists? We’re not journalists. You’re on a OU football/recruiting blog. And no one removed any non-hateful comments AG. You realize how ridiculous it is when you attack another human being because they argued that a recruit would be better developed at another school? It’s not a big enough to deal to sell your character bro. Relax.

      • A. G.

        Your entire story was based on nothing other than “pressure from his family”. How about you do your research like a real “blogger” and learn the very real, and deep seeded history between Mike Smith and his family dating back years. There’s the story. Instead you chose “family pressure” as a cop out to justify OU as being the better option for him. If your going to be a blogger be an honest blogger. Show the whole story and then make your slanted elitist opinion. Your fully justified in your opinions and no one is discounting OU’s tradition and success. However, your comments come off as smug and completely disregard the very real thing that is going on out West. So go on ahead everyone. Keep yourself wrapped in a cloak of arrogance. The days of UT/OU being the only players are dead my friends. I’m not claiming Tech is going to beat your ass every year or any other superfan prediction. However, don’t kid yourself if you don’t think that OU has an auto lock every year from here on in. I’ve said my piece. Enjoy the circle jerk.

        • A. G.

          One last thing. Anytime someone starts a sentence with “No disrespect but..” it absolutely means that disrespect is about to be handed.

          • ToatsMcGoats

            Really? You think it’s wise to start name dropping?

          • Stikboy

            Wow! That was one heckuva last tortilla… Bullseye!

        • Steve Johns

          Yawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnn

  • Borba22

    I think Tech fans still have a sour taste in their mouths from ’08. Only explanation I think of for all the insecurities they showed us today.

  • Zack

    Tech fans got shut down by fehoko on twitter.

  • Stikboy

    Why is anyone even sweating these vienna sausages. Think about it…. They have just gotten a verbal commitment in April and that is what they’re flying over here in droves to brag about? Losers. Let me tell you something about Tech. They may have the most massive inferiority complex in all of football. They hate everybody(maybe even themselves). They are so jealous of OU it even becomes physical most of the time, when the OU game is in Lubbock. Their penis envy is unmatched. Most of them grew up Longhorn fans but they aren’t smart enough to get in. I have seen outbursts like this before from them. Once, a few years ago, I was on a board and they had some lineman that could bench like 1400 lbs(Im exaggerating), and this tortilla thrower came over, i think it was a Big 12 board, and was calling all the other schools out bragging that no one else had a guy that strong. He argued and pushed that point for days. No one else cared(of course) and were laughing at him. They are the quintessential new money. In 08, their by far best year ever, even their players embarrassed themselves all year, like that fat guy with the crazy hair.. Again, everyone laughing at them behind their back. It sure was nice when we beat the ever livin () out of those losers. Mike Leach even had a post game speech that is easily findable on Youtube calling them out a such… HAHA look at their head coach and what an embarrassment he is… What a massive tool. Hilarious. They are the most bush league establishment in CF mostly because of their retarded fan base. If they only knew their place they might be somewhat tolerable… I guess the next time Kingsbury successfully flirts with some middle aged knappy * cougar(stud!) here they come!!!!
    Thanks for coming over here vienna sausages! You made my night…

    • ToatsMcGoats

      And you, sir, just made mine!!

  • Boomer4life

    This is all just redonkulas! Great write up K, I look forward to reading more of your articles in the future!

  • Sooner Ray

    I had a lot going on in the office today and have been out all evening so I have not been able to jump in on this trolling mess the way I normally would and just now got things wrapped up for the evening. First of all, Why are these trolls coming to this site showing their a$$ when all we do is talk about our own team? I have watched trolls on many sites and they are all the same, they have no home, are shunned everywhere they post, and get some type of gratification going to other sites and degrading people while they hide behind a screen name and a computer or cell phone. The thing that feeds their insecurity more than anything is a simple reply. If they are ignored and not replied to regardless of what trash they spit out, they soon become bored with talking to themselves and move on. Trolls have to receive instant feed back or their mission is destroyed. If a troll comes onto this site, just continue to make comments the way we always do and NEVER reply to a troll, they will get tired of talking to themselves because it defeats their intention. If someone identifies them self as a fan of another team and wants to debate something, that’s fair and understandable even though it would be strange for them to even be here because this is primarily a recruiting blog that deals with future prospects more than anything else. In all the time I’ve been here I’ve never seen an invasion like this so either this site is going nation wide or there is a troll among us that provided a link to these low post count troll pieces of sh&t. As always BOOMER!!!!!

  • JB

    I’m not going to read all the comments here, but I can’t imagine what negative stuff there would be to say about this article. It’s far from pandering and telling people what they want to hear, it’s telling readers first hand knowledge and offering opinions on how the OU staff should pursue this one. I like it.

    This is what I like about TFB…informed opinions of people who actually know what they are talking about. Such a relief/change from the crap you get elsewhere from guys throwing a bunch of garbage out on their radio programs or pay sites that turns out to be wrong 90% of the time.