Post Practice Notes & Quotes (11.10.14) | OU Offense
Posted on: November 11, 2014
Brandon was in attendance following Monday’s practice when OU co-OC’s Josh Heupel and Jay Norvell spoke with the media. Here is a recap of what was said.
Norvell came into the room first:
*Norvell on how Quick and the receivers played overall: “Quick improved, which you’d expect and learned from the game before. He improved on the mistakes he made and played better. I thought he played really strong, really decisive. His route running was really strong and it showed. We were able to get the ball to him a couple of times and he almost broke loose on a couple occasions. I was pleased with Quick. He was productive and did a good job.”
*Norvell added: “Durron did a good job. He had some very good plays in the game. Like most of the players (team as whole) he had some plays you’d like him to make. Overall he played pretty strong, pretty solid.”
*On Shepard not playing: “You know, I really thought Shep was going to play. You guys asked me last week, I’d bet the farm on it. A lot of things happen in the course of the week, you know, trying to play, some times you aggravate it trying to play and that’s kind of what happened with him.”
*On the team’s overall play: “We didn’t do nearly enough. We have to learn from it. Be men about it and accept what we didn’t do well and try to get better. We got three games and we need to get better. Improve. So we have to learn from this tape and make the adjustments, we need to make and put the right plan together to go out and win this week. That’s all that really matters.”
*He added an interesting take at the end of that answer with this little nugget: “It’ll be a challenge to do that with Trevor’s situation and Cody getting a chance right now. We don’t know what Trevor’s situation will be by the end of the week, so we are gonna have to prepare and get Cody ready and make the proper adjustments so that we are solid there.”
*On playing at Tech: “It’s a big challenge. It’s a hard place to play. We’re gonna have to pick ourselves up and that’s what we’ll do.”
*His thoughts on Cody Thomas: “He’s a good young talent, but hasn’t had a chance to play very much. He’s done a great job in practice and worked hard and prepared. He’s a big strong guy that can run and throw. We’ll try to utilize his strengths. Guys are gonna have to rally around him and play well. It’s not a one man show as a QB. You gotta have guys play well for you and execute, do their job.
*On whether Shepard re-aggravated his groin in pregame warmups: “A lot of times when you’re not 100% you try to do things and push yourself to get ready to play. You never know how a guy is gonna react, especially receivers. Sterling is pretty unusual. He’s a pretty tough-minded guy. He handles those things better than some do. A lot of receivers are like sports cars. You get one little thing out of whack and they don’t function very well. Right up until the last minute we weren’t sure whether he was gonna be able to go. He just didn’t feel right. It’s pretty simple. This game is hard enough and if you can’t protect yourself, you can’t play.”
*Norvell on difference between Thomas and Knight: “I think all of our QBs are able to do very similar things. I would just say Cody just hasn’t had that much experience. He hasn’t had a chance to play very much, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be ready. He prepares every week just like he has to start, because has to be ready to (start) in case Trevor goes down. I think that preparation will help him with this opportunity. I know he’ll be prepared and ready to go. We expect him to be ready.”
On to Josh Heupel:
*On frustrations of not knowing where Trevor is right now, health-wise: “It is what it is. You put things in the game plan that, hopefully, both of them feel comfortable with. If one guy is the guy, you just find things that he feels most comfortable with.”
*On Thomas’ skill-set vs Knight: “ Similar in a lot of ways. Each QB is different in what they feel comfortable in reading and throwing. Based on what our guys feel comfortable with, that’s what you put into the game plan.”
*On Trevor playing Saturday: “ We’re optimistic we can get him back. Obviously, we’ll find out a lot more on Tuesday and Wednesday.”
*On Blake Bell working at TE: “ He’s still working at TE, too. So depending on where we’re at on Tuesday and Wednesday that will determine how much he’s going to work at the QB spot.”
*On key things that went wrong on Saturday vs Baylor: “We played in a lot of 2nd and longs. We can’t play in 2nd and 18 and expect to score a lot of points. So we have to correct those things.”
*On going away from the diamond, that worked a week ago, when you had Keith Ford back: “Some of it was what we saw from them on tape, schematically. Had plans to get into in the second quarter. Some of our 12 sets (two tight ends) were working pretty well early in the first half. Obviously, we didn’t score on every drive since we were working with 2nd an longs. Kind of the way the game unfolded.”
*On whether Cody Thomas is ready for the start if he gets it: “Absolutely. Just who he is a person, player, and competitor. The way he practiced today is a good step forward.”
*On short yardage struggles: “ You can be in the bulldozer, whatever. At the end of the day you have to get a body on a body and ID it right to get the play started. You look at the two 3rd and shorts that we had, and we’re not getting a body on a body. That’s gonna cause some major issues in the backfield.”
*On whether or not Baylor tried taking away the TE: “ Nah, it was a run pass play and they took away the boundary run, and we had one-on-one down the seam. For the most part during the game they were doing something different out of that set. That’s why you saw some big runs out of the back side of that formation. Some of it is just how their defense is playing and you’ve got to take advantage of what they are giving you.”
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No recognition of what Baylor was doing to stop the zone read after we scored our 2nd TD. They were forcing Knight’s read by crashing the DE and then swinging the LB outside to stop him from running. No blocker sent upfield, no play action to exploit the vacated middle. I’m so sick of this coaching staff’s answers, and I’m even more sick of the softball questions from local media.
Yep. They started crashing their DE and scraping the backer across the formation and never gave Trevor a blocker out front to deal with it. Not sure if Heupel ever picked up on what they were doing. AGAIN…..every staff of every decent team in this conference seems to have an easy time outcoaching these clowns these days.
He knew what they were doing to counter the read option. But obviously, they didn’t practice or put in anything to offset the LB spying Knight. Probably assumed Knight could allude a one on one situation. Reminds me of when Miami in the 80’s would have their MLB be responsible for the QB in the wishbone.
This is where the diamond would have come into play if they would have used the darn thing.
yeah. especially if you’re in the booth. you gotta see that. it wasn’t just some senior or something who took it on himself to stay home on a play or two, that is how they countered what we were doing. so, in turn, you then have to pull a lineman or put in a fullback or tight end to lead to counter their counter
FUJH is a clown 25% of the time!!! He gets lost in his own shadow. I really think that FUJH believes that he is smarter than the other teams defensive coaches and thinks too much!!!
Agree. I’d like to get a creative OC (Cumby comes to mind) that isn’t afraid to mix it up. With a better offensive scheme, we might have still lost but we could have at least kept up.
Yeah when you look at our similar opponents this game should’ve been much closer. Tells me that it falls flat on the coaches gameplans. Baylor was uncharacteristically penalty free too. It was almost like our defensive scheme was based on, bend and let them penalize themselves out of first downs. When it should’ve been to dictate by personnel and packages what they can do and then take that away.
Would that person be George Cumby – the one who continued to pay his way through OU the whole time he was as starter?
I believe he’s referencing Sunny Cumby, the current OC at TCU, who was at Tech last year, and was a QB at Texas Tech for a couple years.
Guess I better learn the current names.
(cue sheepish embarrassed grin)
Did they bring a stop watch to figure out how to count down a clock?
Maybe a basic rule book to know how many players to put on the field?
I’m talking about the HC meeting with his coaches.
I’m reluctant to put a bunch of blame on the staff for the 12 man penalty stuff. HS players can sub in and out without getting caught with too many men on the field, our college guys should be able to as well.
But they aren’t. It’s a rule. Follow it. Other teams have to and we should. That is on the coaches.
Agree with most of your comments. Bob named the two coaches who are in charge of getting the right number of players on the field.
I missed that. Who?
Coach Bob said, “Coach Kish and Coach Montgomery” are responsible for making sure there aren’t too many players in the huddle. He said this at 7:27 mark of the weekly presser.I think too many fans are jumping on Stoops. From what I heard him say, the DB’s have freedom to play bump and run, or stay a distance from the WR’s. So, either coach is stating a bold face lie, or some of us are overreacting in the blame department. Coach said, “In defense of Julian, it is hard to play press with a broken hand.” I think you and I are trying to be balanced here.
—–Mike Leach
So, you believe coach is responsible for mistakes players or other coaches make? Negative. Is your manager at work responsible for the mistakes your co-workers make? Obviously, not. In most cases, the manager isn’t the one fired. Whatever happened to personal responsibility? I have former All Big 12 players like Devorcek and Lehman who agree with my view, that Wilson should make a play. Move up and play press.
Who runs the program? Who is in charge? Who is ultimately responsible?
I don’t think that is how Joe C sees it, nor is it how we ought to see it. If you have kids, you know you can teach and train, punish etc…and they may still make a mistake. Is that really your fault? If it was, we’d have a lot more parents behind bars.
We’re not talking about crime here but yes, a parent can be held civilly responsible for the actions of their child.
Look, those are aberrations. You are right, we are talking about CFB, not crime. But the analogy is good. In extreme cases parents of children are held responsible. But the majority of child crime falls on the child. But, you made a blanket statement quoting Leach. I was reacting to that blanket statement. No Coach Stoops is not responsible for each and every mistake a player makes. Remember in the NC Game against Florida Tebow ran an inside option where he pitched the ball to Hernandez? All week they practiced defending it. YET, Frank Alexander doesn’t play it as he was taught. Big gainer. Is that Stoops fault? NO.
Not a blanket statement but a direct quote from the man’s own book. Coaches are held responsible for the performance of their players and staff just as managers are responsible for the performance of the people below them.
Someone has to be accountable.
I would never promote an employee to a managerial position if he had your attitude.
If the player is responsible, then he should be held accountable by the coach. I think it ultimately resides on the coach if it happens frequently.
Yeah, I agree on that. If it happens to a player frequently. Same with fumbles. Stoops puts RB on the bench for that. But perhaps there is no one to replace Wilson earlier in the season?
*Those* particukar DB mistakes were 100% on the coaches. When you are giving up yardage in spades to Baylors receivers, call a damn timeout to fix it. What I saw in the field implies that off-man with the 7 yard space was our contain gameplan and it failed
I don’t think Bob meant it to be that clear cut. He did say that some calls have the corner playing off in order to jump the route with the safety coming over as back-up. That doesn’t seem to be at the discretion of the corner.
It shows a lack of discipline on the part of the coaches and the players. Great teams do the little things right. I see it as comparable to not getting the play in on time. Happen once, ok. Happen every game, it suggests a casual approach to game management.
*Norvell on difference between Thomas and Knight: “I think all of our QBs are able to do very similar things. I would just say Cody just hasn’t had that much experience. He hasn’t had a chance to play very much, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be ready. He prepares every week just like he has to start, because has to be ready to (start) in case Trevor goes down. I think that preparation will help him with this opportunity. I know he’ll be prepared and ready to go. We expect him to be ready.”
Must have learned his non-answering abilities from Bob. That statement says nothing about the differences between Thomas and Knight. Not a single thing, besides he hasn’t had a chance to play very much. Great input from Jay.
It mentions the lack of experience. I’d say that is a difference.
But, clearly, the question was about the difference in what they can do as players, not their experience. Anybody who has seen any more than 1 quarter of OU football this year knows he doesn’t have the experience. That’s so beyond obvious that it’s not even a legitimate answer.
What do you want Josh to say? That Thomas can’t throw the deep ball as well? Or the deep out? That would be stupid to say since there is a team preparing for Thomas, that might not know those things.
It is ridiculous what some of you expect to hear at these pressers. Almost no coach worth a crap in this country is giving the answers you guys want. And there is a reason for that. Go watch a Saban presser. Or Les Miles. Or Urban Meyer. Those guys aren’t saying anymore than Bob and his staff are. Yet, you guys still act shocked every time one of them gives a statement. Just silly.
You are right typical coach speak or maybe they just don’t know. We will just have to wait and see what happens on Saturday. An OU lose is certainly not acceptable this Saturday. I expect a big win.
While I feel the same way, I’d be lying if I didn’t say I was worried about the offense IF both Knight and Shepard miss the game.
Dang, never thought about that. It’s too early to start drinking the hard stuff, just make another pot of coffee. lol
Another loss? Really don’t need that. Remember the game versus Okie Light in 2007? AP out. OU dominated on the ground with Allen Patrick. Play a Bama 09 type game by dominating on the ground, use swing passes, bubbles, get Ross and Ford in the passing game as well, with the TE over the middle.
You’re probably correct. I may be a bit over sensitive about things right now. Just saying the experience thing isn’t even an answer. EVERYBODY knows the difference in experience. If they just wanted to be honest and say “there are things each of them do well, but while we’re preparing for an opponent, we aren’t going to give that info”, I could be OK with that. It would be an honest, real answer. I guess I’m just not on board with coach speak and PC garbage. It’s just not me.
Everyone seems so upset by what the coaches say in press conferences . I’d be happy if they spoke Swahili and we played better. Coach speak and PC garbage are WAY down my list of concerns.
I don’t disagree, but my concern is that it’s not just coach-speak and some of these guys have actually lost touch with what really needs to be done and what the issues are. Not in this particular case with what Jay and Josh say about Cody, but when I hear Bob and his answers it concerns me that he doesn’t really see what the big issues are and maybe truly believe that it’s just “execution”. So I agree, if we play better on the field they can sit and sing “99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall” during the pressers for all I care. It just feels like they don’t have the answers and that concerns me.
Maybe putting some things out there may actually be more helpful to Heupel’s constant gameplanning around what the defense does, rather than actually ever having his own gameplan. If he was to say “Well Cody throws a really good deep ball” or “Cody isn’t the runner TK is” may give the other team something to watch for, which could open up some other things. There is no perfect answer, but the cop-out of “experience” is just lazy, stupid and so dodgy that everybody can see it.
Yes i agree that other coaches do it to but most other coaches have more sense that to say they don’t care what there fan base say’s like bob stoop’s has know said twice it’s goten so bad that even joe are ad has had to way in damage control under way at ou bob put his foot in his mouth on this one and a lot of people are angry
hate to respond to a troll, but no they don’t. they all say the same thing about online critics and social media. And I’m sure there was no call from Joe, Bob is very aware of what he says.
Joe actually sits in on all press conferences so there’s no need to call even if he wanted to.
Dude. That’s danged near incomprehensible! there are so many missing words and misspelled stuff I can’t tell what you’re saying aside from it seems to be a criticism of Stoops. Or something….
edit: why am in this one… didn’t mean to reply about him again. oops.
that is one nasty runon sentence brother. i brought this up yesterday with a bunch of folks and one clown tried to act like i was in the wrong. if you don’t know by now that after 16 yrs bob is NOT going to give you much in a press conference, then i don’t know what to tell you. and that extends to his assistants as well. 16 yrs and running and still bitching about the press conferences is a TIRED act. get over it folks. i’m not aiming this at you necessarily, you just happened to be here
amen sir
Or it shows they don’t know the differences because they haven’t spent any time developing him in spite of Trevor’s obvious failures all year.
They’ve spent 2yrs with him, and you honestly don’t think they ‘know’ the difference?
Commentary on boards, has become just as perplexing as our on field play.
People looking to dissect each word said like it has profound meaning…it doesn’t. That’s on purpose. Live with it or…..just make yourself go crazy.
nailed it. some people will complain about everything. “my life sucks so i’ll take it out on everyone in a chat room”
One thing I will say I’ve noticed is Cody is deceptively fast. A few times noticed him full speed catching the play with RB up field to block. Now, I’m not saying he should run at all, not the same offense as TK. But I do like the energy I’ve seen from him. If you truly love OU & CFB, it’s fun to see development of a new QB. Scary at times, but like seeing them grow.
i am excited. i wanted to see a little more game to game from trevor but am still proud of him and always will be. just wish some of those “same” mistakes would have disappeared even if new ones arose. hope its one hell of a 3 or 4 way battle in camp
Agree 100%. Have been advocate for him to have chance to develop, but would be lying if didn’t admit Baylor made me wonder…again.
It will be interesting in spring. Although it will be fun to see if CT can make most of opportunity.
If I were a coach, the last thing I’d do at a press conference is outline for my upcoming opponent what they needed to look for in a player that they haven’t had much of a chance to look at. The answer that each is more comfortable with certain reads and certain throws is the most I’d want to give out.
Anybody heard the rumor that Knight has transient quadriplegia? In case you’re wondering, that’s real bad.
Isn’t that basically a “stinger”?
I was under the impression it sounds way worse than it is.
Some of the literature suggests that players who experience this should NOT return to contact sports because there is a better than 40% chance of it recurring.
Not a rumor. SoonerScoop reported it last night. And as I understand it, unless Knight’s MRI revealed he was suffering from spinal stenosis then what he experienced was really more scary than anything else. Which is not to dismiss either Scoop’s report or what Knight experienced. I know if I’d lost feeling in my extremities, even if only briefly, it would be scary as s#$%.
I’m just saying this coming out doesn’t really change anything w/ respect to his chances of playing Saturday, or the remainder of the season. With the spinal stenosis caveat, of course.
Just one man’s opinion but , if I were Stoops, I would take no chances with Knight the rest of this season to give him a chance to heal naturally until Spring ball. Depending on what the doctors said next APril would determine whether Knight played in 2015 or hung up his cleats for good. The worst case scenario is what none of us want for Knight or the program…There isn’t a player on two feet who wouldn’t want to play at Lubbock Saturday but his safety is far more important than his participation in a meaningless game . Starting preparations for a more successful 2015 SHOULD begin with the TT game. Playing younger guys to get them experienced for next season is the one thing Stoops can do to make next season better even if they are no more than reserve depth for guys who are redshirting this season. Its time for some fresh faces and posssibly more ‘fire’ than we saw last Saturday.
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Heupel’s answers always baffle me. I think he just needs to quit watching the other team’s film and just go punch people in the mouth and make them like it.
A lot of words come out of his mouth, but he almost always actually says nothing.
He would make a great politician.
As opposed to an offensive coordinator.
Exactly!
My reaction too. Planning is a beginning, but no plan works perfectly. Everything went to hell on D-Day, but the troops adapted, solved problems and established the beachhead. JH doesn’t seem to operate this way.
I hate to ask this but is it time for OU to start preparing for next year? Not giving up but give some experience to other players and trying some new wrinkles. Maybe confuse somebody like showing a 4-3 defense, wide splits, 5-wide receivers!
I think they do need to start playing some of these young guys more. We always hear how well we did in recruiting yet very few guys see the field in the first couple years. I feel if you got the guys you went after and your older players aren’t getting it done, do some coaching and get someone hungry to play on the field.
Gary R…………………YES——-it is time to start preparing for next season. Getting Thomas as many snaps as possible the next three games will pay dividends next season or at least determine whether he can be factor next season. both Knight & Mayfield are known commodities and their strenghts & weaknesses are there for all to see. Getting some other OL/DL in for more snaps is needed as well. THIS season has to be considered an abject failure so playing numerous young guys to allow them to gather much needed experience should be B SToops primary goal. After all, the OL must be rebuilt and there aren’t that many areas of strength on this team that can’t be improved by experienced depth.
Next seasons potential starters on ol unless they are moved.
J. Alvarez
O. Brown
C. Daimler
A. Dalton
T. Darlington
S. Grant
D. Farinok
K. Frison
J. Paul
N. Kasitati
J. St. John
Plus add in a junior college stud
Lots of potential, but they need a lot of experience.
Some pretty tall dudes-basketball tall.
There I go worrying about next year!
Gary, all those guys you listed need to play a lot early next season. Find and establish a five that can start and rotate the rest in when needed. I wouldn’t be surprise if this unit plays better than expected. Just a gut feeling.
It’s time to start focusing on recruiting because that season isn’t lost, yet.
If you expect anything other than the vaguest of coach-speak from any coach other than the head coach, you will be disappointed. You’ll get some info from them occasionally, but very rarely will it be something that you couldn’t figure out on your own. That’s not their job. The head coach might give out some info, but the other guys just aren’t likely to do it much.
Cody has a weakness which is his experience. Yet, the coaches control his opportunities to gain experience. Cody doesn’t play because Knight needs the reps and Cody doesn’t have experience.
Cody has little experience because he doesn’t play.
Cody doesn’t play because he has little experience.
I hope this is not their logic.
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There are some positives from last weekend. Quick is a legitimate, electric player. Very impressed with him. He will make you miss and finds a way to get yardage. KJ Young will continue to improve as well.
I like that Norvell backed his words and actually tried get these guys in plays.
I’m no expert on all of this and I hate that someone needs to be let go, but our offensive staff needs to be adjusted. As far as the defense goes, we are supposed to have two defensive coaches in the Stoop brothers, I’m not seeing the payoff of late. They are slow to adjust and can’t seem to make adjustments during the course of a game. It’s either laziness or lack of focus, both of which is not acceptable.
I want to keep Bob and allow him to make the needed staff adjustments, but they need to be made at the end of this season and no later. He also needs to take a look at the type of players that they have recruited and put them in a position to play to their strength(s).
It could be an unfounded belief that they must not change their game plan due to setbacks and that the important thing is to believe in it and hang in there. Sometimes that is true but it shouldn’t ever result in you being so dedicated to a plan that you watch it fail play after play right in front of you and still don’t change even the minor stuff in your coverage that would stop it from happening. The Stoops brothers have dedicated their lives to playing and coaching football and absolutely have forgotten more then I will ever know about the game. But they seem to have complete blinders on at times and it concerns me. It was like they had some great overarching plan in the 3rd quarter that their players and the fans screaming at them had no idea of, and then they would reveal it and be revealed to have been right all along! But that wasn’t the case at all of course- they were just being bizarrely loyal to a scheme that was failing over and over and they were the only ones who didn’t see that whatever alternative they thought was worse- couldn’t possibly BE worse. Weird.
This offense, even when they control the possession time, can’t out score good spread offenses. Mike’s defense can’t stops good spread offenses neither. Mike likes to drop 5-8 people back and a 4 man rush doesn’t beat 5 OL’s very often. BU took advantage of Mike’s 5 man drop behind the DL, (by throwing short passes with easy completions underneath the 2nd line of OU’s defense). After that they matched up great speed against OU’s DBs for their long pass plays.
No experience?
My only question is, in many past games, there are times when we have a big lead and still playing starters?
Would a few snaps with a reserve or two make that big a difference?
This is what Stoops has done since he’s been here….
New defensive scheme from mike stoops: his secondary is playing so far off, they are in the stands.
At the chance of being run off this site I’d just like to say I’ve followed the Sooners since the late 60’s and I love this team and University. The current coaching staff is one of the best in college football and they will recitfy the current problems. The hatred spewed by some makes no sense to me but maybe I’m just old and have a different idea of loyalty. Sure I’m disappointed and question some decisions that the staff makes but beyond a constructive comment on my part I don’t have hatred. The team and staff have my support and loyalty. Boomer Sooner! Time for my nap!
Randy, I have been a fan since 1950 and hold my Masters from OU, but really it’s time for some changes with the coordinators. Josh is terrible and lacks innovation. Mike would do well if we were still in 2000-2004. Wright has been at the dance far to long and we need a fresh face as a DB coach. Kish, well as much as I like him as a person and I do, time has passed him by and he has fallen short as a regional recruiter. Those are the people I would replace.
Navy_UDT, I respect your opinion and you may very well be correct. I feel Bob S is a smart guy and although loyal to a fault at times he’ll make the right call for the future of the program. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some changes during the off season. By the way, thanks for your service. 20year vet here.
Randy, thank you as well.
Randy, thank you as well. Sounds like you migh
I really like the way our LB’s are playing and I think that’s a complement to Kish. I, however wouldn’t cry if we made some Asst. changes. I think we can win with who we have. I believe they can and will get better as coaches. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
I agree with your assessment of the linebacker play. Replacing Colvin and Lynn has proven to be a real problem.
I don’t see any hatred just frustration and bewilderment.
I’m pretty much done with this. I haven’t been on the site much lately because I can’t go through this exercise again and again when things don’t change in front of mounting evidence.
I’m trying to tone it back a bit until this team/coaches give me something to be excited about maybe the big recruiting push in December can get us rejuvenated.
But i will say I am tired if hearing baker mayfield being anointed the “starter” next year. I don’t know that he’s really going to be much of an improvement. One thing he may be better at is scoring but if we still have the horrible play calling then it wouldn’t matter who the qb is.
I would like to see Cody get his shot the rest of the year and let knight heal up and just watch from the sidelines. If Thomas is closer to Bradford and jones than any of the other qbs then he’s the guy I want going forward.
A few observations:
1) People like to post statements as fact, even though it is completely made up or a huge assumption. For example, I have seen a lot of the Bob Stoops is lazy, Bob Stoops doesn’t watch film, etc. talk of late. Either we have a ton of insiders in message board land or people are just talking out of their collective a**es.
2) Oklahoma football needs some fresh ideas, but I think the idea of a complete overhaul is a HUGE mistake.
3) People need to quit being so damn touchy. This goes for life in general, but in the context of OU football, I am talking about coach’s post game comments. He was frustrated, as we all get, and he has to answer to (in my opinion) some pretty obnoxious media members (I will let you fill in the blanks). These media members like to ask antagonizing questions and he got annoyed. In the heat of the moment, we all say things we don’t really mean. He is a proud guy who has high expectations. Don’t take it personally.
4) For those of you jumping ship now, that speaks to your character. If you are a true Sooner, you stick it out even in the tough times. Go ahead, give up your tickets. I am going to be in the market for some in tthe near future.
5) Boomer Sooner!
1) Where are you seeing this?
2) Very few people are saying this.
3) No one is being touchy. The season is a waste and people are angry.
4) Who—-who is “jumping ship” and giving up their tickets?
5) Most disappointing season in decades.
Go over to Landthieves for 5 minutes, you will see what I’m talking about.
2009 was pretty disappointing. So was 2012. This year is just another year of good but not great. I’m not happy about it either.
Injuries and inexperience deep-sixed 09′ and any team with Landry Jones as QB was in trouble
Yes, but they were disappointing nonetheless.
This team is loaded—–there’s no excuse for their performance this year.
2009 was not a disappointing season: a new O-line and two AA’s missed the season. No surprises there at all
Right, a team with the returning Heisman trophy winner and coming off of the national championship game appearance was not disappointing?
Did you even read my post?
Yes. I disagreed with your sentiment. I was making the point that the season starting out with everything we had in 2009 (granted, when Bradford went down in the first game, your expectations shifted) and in a season where we were number one to begin the year in 2012, I think those seasons were pretty stinking disappointing as well. I think we may have oversold ourselves a little bit going into the season. We have some very good to outstanding players, but as a team, I don’t think we are the force that we believe ourselves to be. It doesn’t mean were bad, or that this team in the coming years can’t do great things. It just means that there are issues that we overlooked because of the excitement of the Sugar Bowl.
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Injuries are unavoidable and unpreventable. They happen and there’s not a thing you can do about em. But to see the performance of this coaching staff and write it off as “issues” is being totally unrealistic.
yes injuries, especially to your superstars, can kill hopes, aspirations, etc of a season. so its different from just disappointment. i don’t know where this one ranks on that all time disappointment list. its hard because who knows how good we were supposed to be? last yr, i feel, we lost the wrong guys to injury and it made us pay. this year, kinda the same thing except this year it was to graduation and not injury
In your opinion @disqus_BeW3hegp9d:disqus, who did we lose to graduation that we haven’t been able to replace yet?
i think from a leadership standpoint, first and foremost, and also talent and big plays:
colvin
bester
reynolds
saunders
clay
ikard
irwin
lynn
not in that order tho
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But none of those players called plays. None of those players made game plans and that’s where the problems are this year.
the only place i would agree with your assessment is with not running trevor earlier in the season and getting him out on naked’s and whatnot cause he seems to throw better on the go. imo, they didn’t because then all of our hopes, dreams, aspirations and a boat load of pressure is on the shoulders of thomas. again, imo, you can’t do that…you can cause its your team, but i don’t think you should approach it that way. did we still have title hopes when bradford went down against byu? yeah, but they were lessened to put it lightly. you have to go all in for your team. i wouldn’t wanna look one of these kids in the face down the road and say sorry about your senior year, your last chance at a title and we didn’t go all out for it because i was afraid to put it all on thomas’ shoulders if trevor went down. you definitely won’t agree but i think the offensive play calling has been pretty decent all year…oh and i don’t know the reason we aren’t playing bump and run either. youth? safeties? getting burned? there’s something there and i’m not buying the hard headed, arrogant bit
sorry for the novel
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I was at the BYU game and it was apparent early on that that team—-especially the O-Line—-was incredible undisciplined. And when Bradford went down just forget about it. And what was really embarrassing was that we outnumbered the BYU fans at least 4-1 yet they were much louder than we were.
Play-calling on offense has been Jekyll and Hyde. We’re not a passing team with Knight in there and it’s blatantly obvious that the run game is our strength. Knight should never be asked to sit in the pocket and throw. We’d be better off going back to the wishbone if we’re going to continue to bring in Trevor Knights at the position.
The defense is obviously built to take chances—–pressure the QB and take your chances in the secondary. But what do we play like? A cover-2, bend but don’t break defense.
None of it makes any sense. None at all.
that’s the thing tho. how can you expect your blitz to hit landfall when receivers are open from jump st because you’re playing off? those two seem like lamb and tuna fish
That’s what I mean—–we’re trying to play a defense that we don’t have the players for.
yeah. that’s why i’m wondering if mike is looking around saying man our safeties are raw or our safeties aren’t ready or something like that. i mean, imo, a coach isn’t gonna sit there and give up the same amount of yards and the same amount of points week in and week out and not make a change because he’s hard headed or too arrogant to change. that makes no sense. i wouldn’t beat my head into a wall more than once…..
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I hate soft, prevent defenses. If we’re gonna get burned for a fifty yard bomb at least make the QB pay for it.
by the way thanks for the conversation. love it and not the bickering that we get on here and yeah i sometimes add to
I think out collective expectations of this team were unrealistic. You are saying that a team is loaded, despite the fact that they replaced every WR save 1, all of the RBs, had a QB with a total of 6 starts, 3 new DBs, and 1 new ILB. Many, myself included, thought this could be the year based upon 1 great performance. In retrospect, we should have tempered our expectations, but that is why fan is short for fanatic.
My initial post, if you read it, was essentially to say that I am not going to take part in the piling on that so many fans and media members are currently doing. I am going to stand by my team, my university, and my coach. We live in a reactionary, social media driven society where something “trends” and snowballs, and I see that right now with the OU fan base. Many people are calling for the heads of Boren, Stoops, etc. if you aren’t aware of that then, I don’t know what to tell you, because it has been all over the place online. If you have a problem with someone being loyal, then maybe that speaks for your character.
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The new RBs are amazing. All of them.
We have a QB that’s better suited for the wishbone so it doesn’t matter who plays WR. Randy Moss would have a hard time catching some of Knight’s passes.
Our DBs have been put in position to fail all year by the coaching staff.
The only place experience is a must-have is at O-Line and QB and we’ve got that in spades on the line and QB I’ve already covered.
I went over to Land Thieves and saw a total of two firing threads: one calling for a new DC and one calling for a new OC. That’s far from a meltdown.
Anyone who thought that 2009 team had the making s for a championship WITH Bradford was totally dillusional and I said that in early August of that year.
One of my favorite seasons was 2006 because expectations were low when Thompson took over. Though we were screwed at Oregon and trick played to death by Boise State, I thought is was a good example of overcoming adversity. We all love national championships, but as one who loves competing, I enjoy watching athletes overcome challenges almost as much.
@renegoupillaud:disqus
Paul Thompson is one of the unsung hero of Sooners past. He sacrificed a shot at the NFL to save our season.
haha. landthieves. calling that place a soap opera is the understatement of all understatements
No joke.
Other websites are in full meltdown mode.
So why are you posting it here?
Just gen. observations about OU fans at this point time. If it has so offended you, feel free not to read it.
I merely asked you a question sir.
Because I don’t post over there. I do here.
Calling this the most disappointing season in decades seems like a bit of an overreaction, doesn’t it?
Hmmm lets see….. Talk of being in the playoffs in the preseason to being unranked. Sounds pretty damn disappointing to me. Certsinly the biggest in-season (not bowl games) let down since Stoops has been here ( ’98-’14 makes three decades).
99 was his first year here sir.
good stuff.
i’ve seen the stoops and coaches are lazy stuff crop up here lately too. yeah we need something but burn it down is not an option(and this will probly get called a “strawman argument” or whatever’s popular these days). people are touchy and need to quit looking to stoops pressers for the meaning to life. if anybody jumps ship, i’m sure bieber’s looking for fans.
BOOMER SOONER!!
And no one here is saying “burn it down” @disqus_BeW3hegp9d:disqus
you and i have had this discussion plenty. in my view, people who want the entire staff gone want to “burn it down”. i’m not saying you’re one of those people but they will bitch and moan if/when stoops is gone (which means they got their wish) and the new guy sucks a big one(even if its the guy they would have personally picked)
Again, no one here is saying that.
i can’t give you real live examples and i am way too lazy to try to track em down but there are people who want to see that. what i want to see is that fire. i want stoops to beat the crap outta you, then give the attitude and smirk and whatever else he’s got at press conferences because he can’t stand em and rinse and repeat. i know that’s what a lot of others want too but i want em to start acting like the other team and its coaches are trying to kidnap their kids and kick em in the nuts at the same time
I wantMike Stoops and Kish gone…. Guess that means I want the edges crispy not the whole thing burned down. In the meat of Saturday I said I wanted Bob Stoops gone. I’m not as vehement Bout that now but I do not know how many more 9-3s I can find acceptable.
I figure Kish and BJW will take one for the team just so it can be shown changes were made. I think others could be more responsible for the issues. I don’t want to take a gamble on a new HC right now.
One more loss this season and I’ll totally be onboard with that sentiment @blaster1371:disqus
Tell that to Michigan fans Florida fans and everybody else I think Rene mentioned the other day. Careful what you wish for. And if you want everyone gone you need to get behind some guys. Put your name with theirs and if they suck, you don’t get to bitch about them too…haha
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That’s why we have an athletic director and also why AD’s get fired if the head coach sucks.
Michigan had a jacked-up AD who’s since been fired and Rich Rod has already said that he was sabotaged while he was there to the detriment of the team.
My point is, don’t bitch about stoops and then secretly you want a John Blake type and then John Blake stinks and you bitch about him and so on and so forth. I can deal with pessimists who can discuss, I can’t deal with pessimists who have nothing but vile coming out of them
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Fans pay the coached salary—-they’re invested in the program and have every right to express their approval or disapproval. This isn’t politicos where you cast your lot with a certain party or politician. Again, that’s why athletic directors exist.
People stating their opinions is not “vile” and it’s not “hatred”.
No no. I didn’t mean that. This is discussion. Some of the posters on here drive by with hatred and vitriol and never add anything to a discussion. Like I said, I can deal with pessimistic people but I won’t be able to deal with a revolving door of bitterness and bitching about this that and the other. Also, like I said, if you want Bob and other coaches gone, grow a pair and call for it and have your name put with a coaches and if he sucks and is no better than Bob, stand there like a man would and wear it when you get worn out. Another like I said…be careful what you wish for. That’s all I ask. Man up and don’t cower in crowds
I don’t know what to say to you @disqus_BeW3hegp9d:disqus. You take everything said on here waaaaaaaay too seriously.
I love sooner football. Period. If you want to fire someone or for someone to lose their job, then prepare to suffer the consequences. If its meant in jest, say it . I’m not gonna stay silent when someone bashes what I care about. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but have some balls and backbone behind your opinion. This is not directed at you so don’t take the “you’s” literally
What are you talking about @disqus_BeW3hegp9d:disqus—-this is an internet message board for pete’s sake. No one even posts under their real name on here.
exactly my point. people here are awfully brave for “fire this guy fire that guy” and hide behind an internet moniker and will join in a chorus of boos whilst hiding in a crowd. as i said above its very relative. relative to who’s doing the talking and who’s doing the listening. relative, as in you call it voicing an opinion, i call it being a pussy. if someone wants to vent, then vent. but, i feel, if you’re calling for someone’s job, then man up. i DO NOT like when people bitch about last season in real time, then we beat ok st in their yard and the bitching stops somewhat. next up, the bitching about having to play bama. we beat em, the bitching stopped and turned into unreachable goals in some instances. then this year happened. again, relative. you’ll call it “welcome to the internet age of being a fan in big time college football”. i’ll call it bandwagonitis, fairweatherness and i spit that crap outta my mouth. people need to grow a bean bag and get over things. like i said, if you need to vent to not take out a school, then vent. anything more and it becomes something else
Oh whatever are you talking about—–people were booing in person at the last OU game. Booing here or in person—-what difference does it make?
i mean….do i have to write it in crayon? i’m not seeing anything i said as needing any more discussion. and what part of IN A CROWD did you not understand?
I didn’t know Michigan and Florida were after Mike and Kish. 🙂
Look guy’s all true sooner fan want is us getting back to winning national championship’s if that means bob stoop’s can still win then okay but if he can’t then it’s time for him to move on just because somebody question’s bob stoop coaching doesn’t mean they are not loyal sooner fan’s you people i have questioned bob stoop’s coaching but i have never criticized the player’s the promblem on this team has alway’s been the coaching not the player’s i will alway’s support these player’s god bless these young men
You said a lot in that sentence james. I think every poster here is standing strong behind these players, the coaching issues that are showing will eventually be rectified.
Eventually is infinite!!!!!
*troll*
All i can say my friend is you need jesus all you do is call me a troll but jesus is real he is god godbless you my friend we are taught to love those who hate us
Jesus take the wheel!
And the Bible even uses punctuation.
Jesus just left Chicago…and he’s bound for New Orleans.
Can you mix in some punctuation? One time?
The reality is that Stoops isn’t going anywhere unless Stoops wants too.
I only listed two people. I think the Oline and D line coaches need to stay. Norvell is OK. Heupel has glimmers of promise. Florida had to get a new coach because theirs quit. Michigan has been a train wreck going on 18 or so years.
ok. do you have anybody you’d replace them with? i love the coaching change ideas some people throw out there. some are fun and some are out there. yeah i didn’t like what urban did there and he can’t do anything wrong out here in SLC
I would start by taking a look at the DCs at any school with a top 20 defense.
Did I specifically say “on the football brainiacs website?” No. I was merely bring up observations from other fan websites for discussion. I don’t really understand your huge problem here.
That post was not addressed to you @disqus_QWG26rBpAj:disqus
My original post wasn’t addressed to you.
I don’t think you understand how a message board works @disqus_QWG26rBpAj:disqus
Do you?
It was implied by your post HERE that you were referencing comments made by some of the posts made by folks on TFB.
What does “jumping ship” even look like for a fan? I doubt any one of us who have been OU junkies for x amount of years could give “jump ship” on OU anymore than Jimmy Johnson could stop buying hairspray.
IMHO most of the other fan sites ain’t worth nothin’. An ah mean nuuuthin’.
I realize my gripes are not worth what anybody paid for them. But TFB comment board is a lot cheaper than a shrink. Healthier than substance abuse. My wife is a saxeT grad, indifferent to football so she don’t care to hear nuthin’ ’bout none o this. Gotta vent somewhere, somehow. Arrgh.
At this point in this season, Whatever else happens – we must beat zer0 state. We must. We have to. By just one point is good enough.
Now – wreck tech!
Destroy coach prettyboy sunglasses!!
Boomer Sooner, Dammit!!!
People need to quit being such whiny wimps about losing some games. No conference title or chance to play in the NCAA Beauty Pageant this year and that sucks, but some people just need to learn how to get over it. We still have games to play.
I lurked here at TFB for several months when it first began last year before finally joining in for one simple reason, the people participating were devoted and knowlegable OU fans. There wasn’t any of the snarky and snide ankle biting I so despised at other sites. Sadly, it appears as though the acerbic, snarky and snide population here has grown to toxic levels.
I’ve seen every coaching change since Bud and only three are worth remembering. All the non-coaching keyboard warriors here only impress me with their lack of emotional maturity.
It’s still the best I’ve seen Tex. If you throw a bunch of strange cats in a room, there’s bound to be a cat fight at some point. I would like to reserve my right to whine on an occasional basis. 🙂
You and I tend to suffer in silence.
Wish more here would do the same.
Sorry.I just can’t stay silent when people wanna bash something I care about. Lot of people probly get sick of me beating my gums but alas I care too much. Love it when you voice your opinion and hate it when my temper runs mine
I only voice my opinion when reason prevails over emotion.
I have no use for keyboard smartasses always picking fights. People have tried to blow me up, I’ve been shot at and shot back, so I have no use for petulant and pithy posters. None.
Excellent point. I can’t help but take the bait haha
You’re a good man and don’t believe anybody that says otherwise.
you too charlie brown you too 😉
Then it wouldn’t be an internet message board @disqus_UrrKRweCfL:disqus
This is where people go to vent and I think people are being incredibly reserved given the performance of the coaching staff this season.
People need to quit being whiny wimps about a lot of stuff in their lives. The world would be a much better place
Expressing one’s opinion does not make one a “whiny wimp” @disqus_BeW3hegp9d:disqus
Very relative
Indeed. It’s pretty obvious most of those wimps are not happy in general.
Agree with every point, but especially item 3.
Bob rebuilt the program. Bob is highly competitive. The monster slept for a decade. It’s awake now and needs to be fed. Bob knows that, but Bob isn’t the type to throw players or coaches under the bus. No public criticism.
Bob knows fans are upset and complaining, but he doesn’t and shouldn’t let that influence his decisions.
I thought his post game behavior revealed how angry and disappointed he was with the performance of the team. He didn’t handle it well, but in all honesty I and most of us would do no better. Really, what good would it do to express anger. It might make some fans happy, but it wouldn’t prove the team.
BRAVO!
I like the cut of your jib.
Everything about the above comment and the conversation below is predictable in every way.
*Fade in*
(Interior)
It’s a tumultuous message board, just a few days and nights after a watershed moment in a small part of the football world.
The natives are restless, seething with frustration and contempt.
Bands of people form an alliance, a confluence of sentiments about that horrible moment.
Torches are lit, hoping to light a fire on those who are responsible.
Damage ensues. The broiling narrative has been lobbed at the responsible like boulders in a catapult.
Before the damage and fire get too big, along comes a light, a breeze of cool air washing over the masses.
This light. This breeze refreshes the masses, bringing them to a sense of hope.
But not all are pacified. Some are still filled with disdain, lurching for change.
The mass is now a faction, the smaller contemptuous collection railing within the larger more placid and hopeful.
The contemptuous wage an assault on the light, the breeze. And the placid and hopeful race to their defensive formations.
The light, the breeze tried to bring a coolness to the fire to level the heads of the masses. Instead it is now in the middle of the fight.
The fight rages on with a smoldering flame. It has always been this way. The smoldering flame has always been there and always will.
This is not the battle of Hatfields and McCoys.
This is not the battle of Montagues and Capulets.
This is the battle of Sunshine Pumpers and Doom and Gloomers.
Soon. Another fire will rage then brought to a smoldering flame.
*Fade to black*
That was very cool. Kind of hits the nail on the head.
Wow! Smh
I didn’t have to pay for this movie did I? 🙂
I’m still waiting in line for a refund. Did I just say that out loud?
I know who he should get for the lead actor.
**WARNING**GRAPHIC LANGUAGE**
Deadwood’s Al Swearingen
what a great freakin show. other short lived awesome shows would include breaking bad and two from espn called tilt and playmakers
I’m a big Justified and Hell on Wheels fan.
loved breaking bad. walking dead is freakin awesome. looking forward to trying justified. start dvr-ing madmen this coming sunday. tried hell on wheels, couldn’t get into it. probly try it again. can’t wait for gotham to start, it looks good. and can’t wait for the wonder years to come out…loved me some winnie cooper back in the day
You can’t just pick up HoW and understand it, you have to see it from the beginning. Great acting, totally non-PC, historical accuracy for clothes/weapons/etc. is top notch.
Hell is the canvas city that moves (on wheels) as the Transcontinental railroad building moves West. Anson Mount(Cullen Bohannon) is fantastic as the lead character seeking vengeance on the former Yankee soldiers that murdered his family in Meridian, Miss. before he came home from the war.
yeah i was sporadic in season 1 and that was it. i’ll try it again someday
See we have one thing we can agree on i to like hell on wheel’s but my wife doesn’t like it
#1 and #2….You have any different answers, what does what they say mean to you?
#3….What do you do when trying to deal with a F….G disaster. Are you as arrogsnt as BS, he has set up these confrontations with the media previously.
#4…. I am sure some of this talk is frustration, but when your team is taking a nose dive and there is no apparent solution there will be a ticket turnover.
#5…. I have lived thru Gary Gibbs, the drunk, honey bear and Gomer Jones, I just do not want Bob to follow in their footsteps. Sooner until I die!!!
Looking forward to Saturday if Cody Thomas does get the start, we haven’t gotten to see much of what he can do and the experience will be good for him; also it’ll be a nice change of pace. I want to see why the Coaches were comparing him to Sam Bradford.
Hopefully it’s not because they’ve started drinking heavily.
So far he has struggled with accuracy. It makes me nervous, but let’s see what he can do.
The way he looked coming in against KSU compared to ISU and Baylor were definitely night and day.
Not saying you’re wrong and I hope it’s nowhere it this article but when was he compare to Bradford and by whom?
I believe it was Heupel, maybe even Norvell and Stoops who made the comparison last year or maybe early this year. It was about him being a multiple sport athlete and such.
Gotcha
Blaster I do remember something like that being said at one point, but like Shelby said, it was more about them both being talented athletes in multiple sports rather than a QB comparison.
Shelby, I’m also interested to see how Cody will manage an entire game, if it comes to that, In the short action he has seen so far, I’ve not seen anything that resembled Bradford. He does appear to run much better than Sam though.
Heard anything about the young olinemen that are redshirting
From camp I heard Frison is/ was looking real good. Brown has been transforming his body and getting in much better shape (per A few statements made in preseason and what I saw of him one the sidelines
Nila and Darlington are the only returning starters so it’s a bit concerning with so little experience with the other positions.
Interested to see if TK ever starts another game here. Not suggesting anything other than the possibility he doesn’t come back from the injury this year and goes through a competitive spring/fall with someone else winning the starting spot.
I don’t have a dog in the hunt, but think it may be interesting to watch play out.
Does anyone know what the injury was?
I saw a post attributed to Murdock, or someone, that named the condition. It is evidently a really deep stinger that results in temporary paralysis. If there is no actual damage to vertebrae, one can evidently come back fairly quickly but there is a 40% change of it occurring again, at some point.
Second year in a row that BU got away with another cheap shot on one of our starters, too.
It boils my blood when referees see something and don’t call it, then follow that by calling something that didn’t happen.
Going back to the game when Rip was ejected, on the same play Knight was drilled and no call.
I am reluctant to call ‘willful blindness’, but dang.
Exactly.
Didn’t make the Top-5 for Jared Mayden, I’m sure it will be addressed tomorrow.
Well damn.
TCU #4 ahead of Bama, both 8-1 teams……..interesting.
Hunh.
When do they get to the ‘swim suit’ competition?
Would that just be Condoleezza?
thanks for that pretty picture
Thanks @sooner_ray:disqus—–I really wanted to throw-up before turning in for the night.
HA!
No, the teams since it is a beauty pageant with only four teams, not a playoff.
With TCU’s easy remaining schedule if Bama should win out(which I don’t think likely) they would be the one’s in a swimsuit and high heels, not TCU.
What I would like to see is team’s schedule cut to 10 games, then the winners of each D1 conference enter a single elimination playoff until a champion wins out.
i like 8. 16 just seems like a week too long to me. 8 just sounds nice. i don’t like the idea that a marshall could play an ugly schedule and get in and get hot(yes that would mean they have some sort of talent). i like that they made the change in the MLB playoffs because the wild card teams always seemed to ride their late season surge and stay hot and win the world series….yet now they change it and you have wild card vs wild card in the world series. anyways, 8 sounds nice unless 6 sec teams get in
If a team like Marshall wins it, then they are the champion.
If they can make it through a regional playoff into the semis and then the championship they will have earned it on the field, not in some conference room here in Dallas.
yeah, i wouldn’t be angry at it. and i guess if they were to beat an oregon and a fsu and a bama in consecutive weeks to win it then they would deserve it
Yeah, 16 is too many. I like the P-5 champions plus three at large to make an eight team playoff. Like Tex said, everyone could drop an ooc game to shorten the schedule.
this would give people the chance at a slip and still have a shot, and a year like this maybe two slips and a shot
Absolutely.
Yeah eight is enough. Wasn’t there a TV show by that name. Yes I post by my real name, have mentioned what town I live in and where I go to drink. I have learned a lot of football x&o’s from the TFB crew and posters and have expressed my disappointment at times with OU football. I don’t hide from anything I say no matter how silly I may sound and you are welcome to come and discuss it out on the “hill” in person, if you buy the 1st round. Sooner Ray this was in no way intended for you personally, as I ask you, Eas Tex, and Zach all kinds of silly questions. Must be the drinks talking as the wife and I went to the Bartlesville casino for a free meal (buffet style) for veterans. Since the meal was free I had more money for a drink or two or more. My wife tells me I wake up like a baby duck every morning (which I take it to mean that each day is a new and exciting day). Just put something on Texas Tech that Ajax can’t wash off this Saturday.
Gary, I’ll make it up to the hill one of these days. Sounds like you had a good veterans day, thanks for your service. You’ve never even came close to offending anyone on this site, just tell it like it is.
Thanks, just let Bobby know. This is deer season and some are in camps. As for me I am suppose to leave for Houston in the next couple weeks for a 4 day seminar. A friend of mine needs a construction site service elevator operator on a 10 story hotel/casino. Started out as 5-10 hour days for about 3-4 months. Now it looks like 5-6 months 7 days a week and 12 hour shifts. Going to be interesting for this old 67 year old man after being retired for about 4 years.
From this old vet, hope you had a great day. I hoist my mug of iced tea to you, glad you came home and thanks for serving our great nation.
I use many different nom de guerres on the interwebs to preserve my anonymity. My oldest nic, there are jihadis and liberals that would love to know who I really am and saw my head off with a rusty scimitar.
Using an alias is no license to be a jerk.
Thanks for your service also and keep ducking those jihadis!
I will see their scimitat and raise them with my Black Bear Classic
hahaha. and amen on the last line. and thanks for your service and you too gary if you read this
I want their ancestors to feel the pain.
8 team is the way to go.
I’ve always thought it should be conference champions fighting it out at the end.
Yep.
Been saying it for weeks, not changing now, OU/Bama bowl game…both 3 loss teams.
you guys may want to save the alcohol for Saturday’s game at feedlot university ( TT). it has a chance to be as ugly as the Baylor game, particularly if OU breaks in a new QB and Shepard doesn’t play at 100%. Kingsbury will have his QB throw 60-75 times Saturday if the weather allows.
FUJH needs to go PERIOD