Bob Stoops Weekly Presser (Houston/ULM)
Posted on: September 5, 2016
Bob Stoops Weekly Presser (Houston/ULM)
Posted on: September 5, 2016
Bob Stoops Weekly Presser (Houston/ULM)
Posted on: September 5, 2016
The Football Brainiacs
University of Oklahoma Edition
Bob Stoops Weekly Presser (Houston/ULM)
Posted on: September 5, 2016
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320 Comments
https://twitter.com/EricBaileyTW/status/772830552529317888
https://twitter.com/EricBaileyTW/status/772831151622795264
Trying to di it himself. Like Texas last year. It’s a team game, not a Heisman chase. He needs to play a team game and let awards come from that.
Please. Baker isn’t a selfish player. Just made the wrong read/decision.
Trying to do that it all himself is the way he played against Texas a year ago. My point is valid, he didn’t take what the defense gave him, he looked for the big play. I don’t think he’s selfish, but I do think sometimes he feels it’s up to him to make the plays, after all he was the Sooner getting Heisman votes last year.
For good sport I rematch ed our game and the fsu Houston game last year. We whole heartedly did this to ourselves. And Houston is a top 8 team. We just screwed up. Baker had a bad game as a sooner. If it’s his last bad game we will be fine.
So would we, Bake. So would we.
https://twitter.com/EricBaileyTW/status/772831349283487744
Boy, these type of “I sure wish we woulda . . .” comments are always tough to read the day after. If we correct it, happy to chalk it up as a hard learned lesson. Need to go ahead and get our degree in these hard lessons though; running out of chalk . . .
According to Dvoracek and the All 22, Mayfield is right. It was on him (more so) than his WRs.
https://twitter.com/EricBaileyTW/status/772832520928759808
I said it right after the game when everyone was blaming the receivers. Receivers can’t catch a ball never thrown. Baker’s job is to find the best option and put the ball where only the receiver can get it. The receiver’s job is to catch it.
Not every play is a receiver WIDE open, I hope BM learns to throw the receiver open….
All I can guess is SEVERAL players and coaches thought they were “good enough” rather than pushing harder.
I think its a matter of trust. He trusted Sterling and would let him go get it even when covered.
My assessment was the same. I hope Baker isn’t being rhetorical when accepting the blame as a leader. I love the kid but he has to make a second read. Houston knew he wanted to get the ball to Westbrook. There aren’t many times when the broadcast left our backfield on pass plays but when they did, you could see guys open.
That said, it seems likely we don’t have receivers outside of Westbrook that are stepping up, at least, not that Baker trusts. I should have assumed as much with talk of the walk-on “stepping up” and talk of good receiver depth. I guess similar could be said for DB’s and Oline. I hate to be negative but summer talk of depth has really just been a bad way of saying no one is good enough to separate themselves.
Yet another reminder why Stoops’ depth charts are worthless.
https://twitter.com/CodyStavenhagen/status/772827270356439040
What did you expect to change before they even practiced once this week, or immediately after the first practice? Agree it’s worthless, but not for the reason you are suggesting.
How could you possibly know what reason I’m suggesting?
As has been the case for many years now, I have zero reason to believe we get anything other than Defiant Bob today.
Also can’t wait to hear all the hard-hitting questions or local media contingent has come up with following Saturday.
Agreed. I would rather listen to any of the assistants than to Bob. He’s the most boring interview in football — totally predictable without any real information.
I fully expect this to be nothing more than a dog and pony show.
yup
Without the dogs or the ponies . . . .
I’m not listening to it but I’m sure it’s Blah, Blah, blah, execution, Blah, Blah, Blah, execution? Am I right?
hasn’t actually started yet.
Well that’s what I’m expecting.
it would seem your expectations have been appropriately set then 🙂
You are wrong. But why should any of us be your secretary? You listen to it yourself and decide what is being said, comment and then open yourself up to the consequences of expressing your opinion.
That’s the way an open forum works.
Of course if you are reluctant to express your opinion for fear of being contradicted, or being disagreed with, that is a different matter.
That makes you something else.
Well I was at work jacka$$. That’s what some of us have to do. That’s why I couldn’t watch it. Jordan has this post for people to read who might not be able to watch it and then discuss. Pretty sure I know how a forum works. Dumba$$!!!!
Over under on how long it takes Bob to mention the sugar bowl?
Over/Under how many times he mentions Texas game? Yet he doesn’t compare seasons.
2.5. I’ll take the over.
I want to see a pissed off as hell Stoops!
Some people say he lacks “fire” on the sidelines. I thought he got that back last year and showed it in Houston. He was as much WTF as we all were. He will be positive and so forth, as maybe he should be. I am sure he rips people a new one out of public view.
Not going to happen at the presser.
I think that is a good thing. i want to see a coach who isn’t going to go all coo-coo emotional and give that sad press corps the pleasure of seeing him melt down. Save the energy for problem solving. But like Metz said I do want to see a coach who is not happy with what went down and lets everyone in the state know it is unacceptable and they are working on straightening that mess out.
Baker taking some of the blame for the offense is expected but I think he is right. He was tentative, it appeared. I think he still struggles with finding that very slim space of giving his WRS a chance and playing for the next down. The gun slinger in him and the game manager- everyone-says- I improvise too much argue and whatever opportunity he might have had has slipped by and now he’s running for his life.
here we go
Narrative seems to be the Kick Six was the turning point in the game & the OL played well.
Stoops lamenting OU’s inability to get off the field defensively on 3rd downs
Stoops says that Austin Seibert got “anxious” before the kick and that led to it coming up well short.
That’s a fair statement. Dude routinely booms 65 yarders
He hasn’t during s game yet.
Stoops says the inconsistency on offense was self-induced, trying to force the issue.
Stoops says they still have a long season ahead of them. Everything they’re doing has to be better, and he believes it can be.
Oh boy, that platitude is thinner than the pocket material on ten-year old blue jeans.
Stoops says, at times, Baker held on to the ball too long.
He did. This was Baker’s worst game yet. He is trying to hard to be the play maker and he needs to chill and get the ball to the play makers. He left the pocket way early and he either did not see the underneath open routes or chose to keep the ball hoping to go long. We could not go long because of how the corners were playing – 10 yards off and in a back pedal. Underneath was open all day long (see Baylor 2 years ago against OU doing the same D.).
Baker was by far the biggest problem on the O Saturday. The line was bad but Baker made them look even worst than they were.
Bob was about as detailed as I have ever heard him critiquing a player. He specifically said Baker passed up on primary reads to look for slower developing reads.
And I think there is/was a lot to that observation. He got some big yardage when he checked down (on enough occasions that it worked).
Too afraid of throwing into traffic and INT + wanting the big over the top play that wasn’t there. Gunslinger needs to let it rip.
Reminded me of last year’s Texas game. He tries to do too much instead of taking what’s there. They know Baker has a tendency to try to make the big play. They let him play his style, but not to the team’s detriment. Baker’s play in the second half hurt the team.
Disagree about the Oline. It protected Mayfield plenty long enough to make the quick throw that was open. He held ball too long.
https://twitter.com/OU_Football/status/772843150113054720
That is no excuse , you are a kicker you had one job
Why is that an excuse? Looks as much like an admission of screwing up as it does an excuse.
I think what kt was getting at that with that one thing he has to practice at and doing so a gazillion times that timing his steps should not be a problem. Of course we don’t know if the snapper paused a beat when give the signal to hike. Kicker starts his forward motion on the signal not when the holder catches the ball.
I wasn’t saying he didn’t mess up or that someone else didn’t, just that I didn’t take the comment as an excuse, more of an admission of what u just said, I agree 100% it was metzed up.
Thats not an excuse. Thats a fact. If the timing is off you will lose power
That is an excuse, why is the kicker not prepared?
execution problem, not a preparation problem
He was waiting for another timeout to be called???
How do you know?
because that’s what the coach and the player have said. and i watched the play. he just didn’t execute.
And they go hand in hand.
wrong. i could study for a test and be prepared and then not execute on that day. they are quite different actually.
then you didn’t study hard enough.
LOL he should have been but you can’t argue when the timing is off..it just is what it is. When a golfer hits the ball into the woods their is a reason (or excuse if thats what you want to call it) why the ball didn’t go straight (or in this case, clear the pond). Austin screwed up the kick. Thats a fact. Not an excuse
great rebuttal. I love civil internet debates.
Actually, the kid has 4 jobs. KO’s, xp, fg and punting. Im sure there are some differences(except maybe xp and fg).
There was some concern with him doing everything, and it was obviously a legit concern.
Not really. He made a mental error on his approach to the ball, what proof is there that it was due to punting and kicking off? NO LINKAGE!
So theres no mechanic differences between a kick and a punt? Its an entirely different motion, different stepping pattern, everything.
What im saying is, if he only has to do 1 or the other, the likeleyhood of him making a mental error decreases, at least IMO.
I think he was too anxious about a 50+ attempt a common feeling on most kickers and lost his concentration.
This has definitely been the company line coming out of Saturday.
https://twitter.com/OU_Football/status/772843289468768256
Maybe if you’re referring to sexual positions, since it seemed they were all doing the horizontal as Baker was running for his life
It’s like another version, indirectly, of Bedenbaugh being the teflon coach. And, no, I’m not slamming Coach B, but he just seems to get consistently a *lot* of love for decent to good, and only occasionally great, results. When your run game gets shut down like it did, your line is not winning.
Bob Stoops quoting stats re: OU’s run game in the first half. Never a sign of good things.
You had to know Hoover would be there today front and center after Saturday 😉
https://twitter.com/OU_Football/status/772843763710369792
That’s an understatement.
That’s about a step above answering questions about the game by saying, “The team that scores the most points wins. We have to do better being the team that scores the most points.”
“They (Houston) made more plays than we did.” – Stoops
These are the type of quotes that we all show up for. Thanks, Bob!
Did he say ‘We just didn’t execute’ yet?
Did he take a breath yet?
When asked if there will be any personnel changes, Stoops says “we’ll see.”
https://twitter.com/OU_Football/status/772844314275688448
First good news in a bit, let’s start a trend of that
Stoops says he thought Obo “had a really good game.”
Wow.
fwiw, the obvious couple of busts aside, I don’t think Bob is wrong.
And he’s not going to throw his players under the bus (individually)
True. He’ll throw a whole position group under the bus before he ever calls out a coach though.
It was not express, but it sounded to me like he suggested that Riley should have ran the ball more in the second half.
RDC wants Bob fired, let him be.
That has nothing to do with my comment. Turn your obsession elsewhere.
Lol, MY obsession?
Uh oh, what did I walk into . . . ?
Yeah, cowboy.
Bye bye whiny ass, everyone has had enough of ur bitching. B-L-O-C-K
FYI that mean whatever childish comeback you have here will be unseen and therefore meaningless.
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Only they have no authority to cane or arrest you 😀
All good man. It’s the Internet. If you’re taking it too seriously you really don’t get it. Haha.
True dat @rdc212:disqus
And those were really big busts. That’s what you are going to get with OBO. Some good plays and plays that are going hurt you. Football IQ isn’t very good
Those busts do have to stop. That comes with more experience
It happened in the first half , 2nd half he got his sh*t together.
Well he was directly responsible for 10 points – roughing and the ever so wide open RB touchdown. The book on him has been not playing smart – maybe he improves, but he started 2016 living up to that knock.
I don’t care what you do the rest of the game, when you bust an assignment and let a guy walk in for a TD, and have two huge personal foul penalties that extend drives that were otherwise over, you did not have a “really good game.”
But the busts were *very* big. Huge impact.
No argument. But this defense is desperate for play-makers, and he’s one of them.
Also no argument. But I would have expected Bob to temper his praise with noting that he has some obvious mental lapses that he absolutely has to get under control. Maybe he thought they were so incredibly obvious that they didn’t need to be mentioned.
In summary, I’m not ready to give up on Obo, but I really hope having those busts gives him extra motivation to get his head around the game. He could be a superstar if he manages that.
No argument. But this defense is desperate for play-makers, and he’s one of them.
Busts are going to happen but I have a problem with the personal fouls. I don’t care how much we need him on the field, if you do something that stupid you should be on the sideline with a coach in your face for at least one play. Not doing so lets the kid, and the team, think they can do whatever they want out there.
Yeah, that and the insistence on how stellar our O-line play was were the two truly surprising things to come out of that conference.
Stoops says it’s possible they’ll look at putting Michiah Quick in there on punt returns, after he took one late in the game on Sat.
Is he better at waiving his arm in the air? Longer arms maybe?
nicely done
He may not see the field then – you have to stop the other team on THIRD DOWN to ever get a punt.
https://twitter.com/OU_Football/status/772845027663884288
Personally, I’d hope he makes the players do 25 burpees for every 5 yards in personal foul penalities they get as a team, then again by offense and defense, they again by position group, and then again by individual. I think the only thing that pissed me off more than losing a completely winnable game and having to listen to the media talk about “Chokelahoma” for the rest of the season is the undisciplined penalties we got during the course of the game, especially on 3rd down!!!
jeezus, Hoover. like there was any chance in hell Bob answers that.
What did he ask?
if there was any warning sign in the offseason as to losing this game comparing it to 2005 & 2009.
“you can’t tie years together…”
Mark your Bingo cards, everyone.
Come on “Sugar Bowl”!
“players and coaches didn’t execute well enough.”
Baker and Austin.
Add Jordan Thomas to that group as well.
Eh. For the most part, Thomas did fairly well. He did have that misque where I think he might have tried to cheat a little to one side and he paid for it.
I thought I remembered him getting beat badly 3-4 times. I know he also got caught trying to defend a couple NFL caliber back shoulder throws. Not really much he could do on those.
No
He did not get beat 3-4 times badly. Not sure where this is coming from, but it’s wrong.
Leadership guru once said…Praise in public, reprimand in private…go ape sh$& when no one around.
Ok I added that last part
lol, Stoops has had just about enough of Hoover’s questions
https://twitter.com/OU_Football/status/772846065703788544
The defensive line did their job. I would’ve liked to see them be a bit more aggressive in pursuing Ward, but they did their job.
They did exactly what they were told to do. The D line was not our issue Saturday. Secondary was weak sauce as was the QB position.
DBs were very average. Not good enough to leave on islands.
That is the worst sign out of this game. Texas, Baylor and others are going to isolate and one v ones vertically all game long.
Baylor doesn’t have a mobile QB
Ohhhhhhh yes they do @Brent:disqus
ruh roh…
Generous with the term “average” KJ. I am thinking there is a feedback loop in the OU pass offense and defense. The DBs aren’t too good, but look good against the poor WRs – and the WRs aren’t tood good, but look good against the poor DBs.
Different story when playing another team.
Left them on islands last year, and they did fine. Maybe not the 2nd CB position, but all others.
Agree 100%.
They never give Walker his due credit IMHO. Not saying that they never give him credit, but it does not seem that he is given his due credit.
I agree Walker played well but it did seem that the three mentioned were constantly making plays and Walker had moments
Dimon was dominating on Saturday, yet they kept taking him out after a few plays. I realize he’s a big boy, but he didn’t appear to be that tired.
Dimon appears to be a bigger this season, and made some good plays.
coming off a loss does it help playing in a renovated stadium?
JFC. you serious, Clark? that’s a clown question, bro.
Did they really ask that?
Bob P special, yes
The Kuzy questions have been resurrected. That was one for the Kuzy book
I wonder if the coaches have to take drinks in their office for every stupid question after these pressers?
Fair question about Mykel Jones.
Stoops will not stand for answering the same question twice!
Just like fans….the media doesnt know how the act when we lose.
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Because yes, Berry, I’m sure Stoops can’t wait to talk to you about how Texas looked last night.
Moron.
Never mind the 3 games we have before the cotton bowl.
Yeah, that was an odd question.
Once the season starts, Stoops isn’t worried about what people are saying about the league. But apparently Berry Tramel really is.
Bob, at some point the lack of discipline is on you and your staff. You can only put it on the players so many times.
He’ll continue to defy that theory until the day the retires.
Ah, the NFL has chronic penalty problems as well. It’s on the players. Play Smart!
Stoops says the team’s tackling issues weren’t a result from a lack of practice.
Could it be due to the fact that OU stopped hitting in practice recently and UH did not?
The Big 12 has announced the adoption of a conference-wide limit on football in-season live contact opportunities to no more than two times per week, including game-day, per student-athlete. The limit will be in effect beginning with the upcoming 2015 season and will be included in the Big 12 Conference Policy for Concussion Diagnosis and Management. http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=210220054
I’ve read this comment numerous times. OU isn’t tackling any less than other schools in practice.
These senseless late hits and unsportsmanlike like calls are a chronic problem and that goes on the coaches
Not according to, Bob.
Not true. He said that you to expect players to have some control.
It happens to alot of teams , its more on the players.
Pffff, yeah, surely the coaches don’t preach ‘don’t do stupid sh%#!’
Nah, while they preach about conduct off the field, drill hard about NCAA rules, I’m sure it’s ‘anything goes on the field boys’
https://twitter.com/EricBaileyTW/status/772848267998535682
Good lord, expect a self-absolved, long-winded story on recruiting from Hoover at some point in the next 48 hours. He won’t let this line of questioning go for some idiotic reason.
Nailed it.
https://twitter.com/johnehoover/status/773157596660240387
Stoops feels like they will be effective running the football going forward.
I hope so.
It’s time for the “road graders” to put up
I’d say at this point we’re really just asking questions for the sake of asking questions, but that’s really all these things ever are from the jump so….
Is there anyway to watch the all 22 of the game online? I’d be curious to watch that
Stoops says Abdul Adams is getting closer to being the No. 3 RB, but it’s still Daniel Brooks for now.
Bob says Jones hasn’t done enough in practice to gain coach’s confidence. I remember Bob saying they didn’t realize Sam was so good until he got on the field. Some guys are better in games because they compete better there. USC, Texas, Notre Dame and Alabama all played true freshmen. Why can’t we.
I always hear good things about Brooks in practice, but have yet to see it on the field.
that’s a wrap w/ Bob.
great stuff, as per usual.
please go to something much more worth your time on this fine Labor Day 🙂
What did you want Bob to say? He answered the questions he was asked. If you think there was something else to ask, perhaps you should have been there to ask it or arranged to have someone ask it for you, if you couldn’t make it. I am just asking.
Yep. Think Saban or Meyer are answering questions any differently? Nope.
Yep. Think Saban or Meyer are answering questions any differently? Nope.
Ok yall have a good day———-
Bob saying he has total confidence in Linc
I have confidence he’ll be better going forward until
He proves me wrong.
Isn’t Linc the guy on Mod Squad?
And like I thought.. The oline played well
Bobby frustrated with Baker not taking what D was giving
That’s by far the worst game he’s played in an OU jersey. There were several times he had 2.5 to 3.5 seconds and held the ball. I was worried it was because our receivers couldn’t get open, but you can’t really tell from the broadcast.
Need the end zone cam to really diagnose that.
Most likely it’s a combo of both and we were so inconsistent that the results we got
Well, I am relieved about the WRs now. We have the talent.
Everything he said seemed fair and reasonable.
More realistic: starting 1-4 or 4-1 ?
1-4 but I think we will be 2-3
Neither. 3-2. Ohio State and Texas are worrisome at this point.
Texas did us a favor going to the Baylor offense, IMO.
Gotta fix that damn CB position though.
Did you watch them last night? Thats by far and away the best offense they have had since 09.
Yeah, but the package that we have to worry about is the 18 wheeler on 3rd down and in the red zone. Not concerned otherwise. ND scored 47!
As bad as our secondary played, im worried about buchele eating them up. I actually feel a little better stopping swoopes this year, our d line seems improved.
Dont care we have ULM this week.
4-1. I didn’t like what I saw when I watched the Houston game, but I also feel that this group will end up having a great ending. There’s a ton of talent, but the coaches need to let them do what they’ve been training to do.
“Stoops on Obo: He had a really good game.”
I already knew that I don’t know much about the game, but I guess this mean that I can’t even believe my own eyes. I know nothing.
Obo was 50/50 imo. Showed potential but also had wtf moments. But I’m not a coach soo
Obo did enough well to not give up. Ability is there, but his penalties were dumb. Not sure of his football IQ.
I don’t understand what some of you guys are missing? The dude had like 3 QB hits and a few sacks, plus a TD saving tackle. He had a hell of a game, minus a few bone-headed mistakes…it was also his first start. Kid has a bright future.
He made some solid plays. He has got to grow up and stop all the stupid penalties, but I’m not ready to give up on him yet.
I think he will end up having a hell of a season. Watch the game a second time and you’ll see some great plays.
As they say, time will tell. I watched some of this same stuff last year. Case in point…sticking withe St. John when Samia was clearly the more talented player. JMO
This…i bucked up and watched most of the game again last night before I finally passed out in the 4th Q.
There was a few bad decisions, some bad luck and really one big personnel issue.
Not as bad as the first look when you take the emotion out of it.
It was certainly not the “manhandling” I thought it was with my first impression.
That’s exactly what I’m seeing as I watch the replay. The issues aren’t as bad I thought they were when I watched the game live.
One bright note, I did like how Will Johnson played. I thought he had sound tackling, good at shredding blocks and covered well.
Me too but i would for Mike Stoops to leave him at NB to help with coverage.
Blew some pretty big tackles early, like 3. The one on the edge against the RB was bad. Recovered and played well most of the game after that I thought.
We should just keep him at Nickel like last year. Just sub in a OLB when he’s off the field.
yeah, pretty much the very game he went to nickel last year was when the D went on a great run.
Yup
I would like for OU to score 63 to 70 points against ULM. Also wanna see alot of the young studs to rotate throughout the game.
I’d be okay with that. Also would be okay with 200+ rush yards 45ish points. See a couple receivers and Bake get some confidence and take the next step heading into the rest of the year.
We just need to get some moio on offense.
All it is. As long as we execute this should be a confidence building game going into tOSU. I believe we will.
stomping the ‘dog’ out of ULM won’t prove anything . The Sooners need to do it against a legitimate D-1 team. Got 3 tough ones coming up.
Other than a boost of confidence that is correct.
But it’s one game at a time and throughout the history of college football beatdowns after losses have allowed teams to right the ship!
I want to see Kelly, Jackson, Sylvie, Cobb, M. Jones, Adams and a few others get some quality playing time. These guys are our future and this is the perfect game to get them involved.
Couldn’t agree more. Lets see what these young guys can do.
True, if we play third quarters of solid O and D! This game is about execution and playing the right way.
I want Baker to quit worrying about having a perfect stat line (not saying he definitely is)…football is messy. Throw into some of those tight intermediate windows instead of looking for the kill shot. Quit holding the ball on the option when the pitch to Samaje freaking Perine is there. Stop running, you aren’t that talented of a runner.
Now, that I’ve ragged on Baker I want to say if he does some of these things he will be a top QB.
Lastly NO MORE OF THAT STUPID player card graphic of him shushing people. No celebrity QB crap…don’t let the hype get to you Baker.
Baker’s stats were as good or better than Wards. They should have been a lot better. Baker can be his own worst enemy, but it can also be what makes him good.
Oh sure. If our offense is on par and puts up 40, then Ward is in big trouble as a QB trying to match that. Guy is a 50 percent passer.
Also would like to see Baker to test the deep ball alot against ULM. He just needs to take alot shots down to get his confidence booming.
DJ Esco, serious question, it’d be nifty if you guys could get press credentials and get some ground troops on these events and maybe ask the right questions. Yes, I know you guys have (valid) day jobs.
Forces working against us re: credentials. And have been for some time. But it’s also never really been a priority for us. Because what’s to be gained? Token, throw away quotes from the coaches? If we based our stuff on those we’d be no different from the local media.
Safety is our number one priority ( said in Russian accent )
Practices and the like. Not necessarily the pressers, which I agree are useless.
I thought Bob had the appropriate tone for today. While there were plenty of lame questions, the media did a better job than they often do.
Main takeaway for me was that most of the woes on the offensive side were problems with Baker’s decision making. I view that as an extreme positive. He is a mature young man with a great football IQ and I think he will quickly make adjustments that will make a difference.
I had forgotten about the option play early that would have gone for massive yards if Baker had pitched the ball instead of keeping it. Additionally, Bob confirmed that receivers were open, that plays were available. I did not see this as unnecessarily throwing Baker under the bus, either, but just a fair assessment of how the game went, and, further, a judgement on Stoops’ part that Baker is mature enough to handle the comments in the right way.
The O-line may have done a much better job than first appeared as well. Bob’s comments indicated that, and it stands to reason that if Baker was holding the ball too long, that could easily be the case.
I feel like it was a good time to take Baker down a notch. Good on Bob.
I did not see it as taking Baker down a notch at all. Bob is very straightforward about saying when he feels the players around the quarterback aren’t doing their part to help the qb, and conversely, here, he was very straightforward about the fact that the plays were there for the taking. He clarifying where the issues were. It’s one of the things that I prefer about Bob’s presentation over most coaches that I’ve seen.
Maybe my wording sounded a little strong. He specifically mentioned publicly bad decisions by the QB, which I think to Baker will be meaningful going forward. I’m not saying at all that he doesn’t think Baker is a really good QB.
Most of Bakers sacks that I saw came when he held on to the ball too long trying to do the Baker magic show and got caught up with. You have 3 seconds, after that, it’s not on the Oline.
I have a feeling this loss will be the best remedy for that. Get him back to basics, make those basic plays and let those ‘Baker’ plays come naturally instead of forcing them as it appeared on saturday.
This^^
Ok I read your post after I wrote mine. You basically said the same thing.
I love Baker as a person and as a player as well but that being said you’re 100% right when you say “the Baker magic show”. I just got the feeling that maybe he feels that he’s now expected to make those highlight reel Baker style plays that hes become known for so hes possibly focused on trying to make that happen rather than going for the easier and ultimately more successful play.
IF this is the case ( and Im not saying that it is for sure ), hopefully he’ll put those thoughts aside and do whats best for the team.
If you can’t build a dominating run blocking line then get a new line coach.
Just thought I’d take a second to mention how badly the Sanchez decision probably hurt the team. Probably if we have that side of the field locked down, this is a different discussion today. Too bad he got cut and can’t help either team now. Nobody even took a shot at him on waivers after he got cut. Practice squad. Really could have used another year in college to try and get stronger.
It is my hope that the Sanchez story will be one more reason for players (and fans) to understand the benefits of staying in school. It’s pretty easy to be seduced by the prospect of the big time, but Bob is pretty good about advising players on that, and I hope this will encourage more to listen to him.
Maybe so, but this loss is on the offense. Our defense mostly shut them down in the second half, while our offense sputtered. Should have been able to exploit that secondary.
Bingo.
Crap, and here come the Texas commitments.. We really need to destroy them this year.
We will. Graham was always a Texas lean. For some reason i think we can still land Marvin Wilson.
I sure hope you are right. K is just so sure Texsa is the favorite for him. Not to mention I don’t like the way Hines is “waiting to see how they do this year.”
OU really needs to land Greg Rodgers and Elijah Conliffe. LB recruiting doesn’t worry me , OU is recruiting 4 top 10 ILBs and are in pretty good shape with all 4.
Yeah would love to have Rodgers and Conliffe. Agree with LBs, I like Phillips and the other guys.
Btw, this was not about Baker being gunshy about throwing into traffic, this was about looking downfield and not seeing wide open receivers for a first down. Here’s one example of Baker getting sacked while Baxter is wide open for an easy first down and additional yardage. Happened two or maybe three times on the key third down drive, and other times as well.
That makes me hurt.
Exactly. That’s why we can’t criticize the OL for having a bad day. They actually protected Baker sufficiently for him to hit an open receiver.
Discuss keeps messing up, you can just ignore this post since I can’t figure out how to delete it/discuss won’t let me delete it.
In the first quarter it looked like there were a couple of times Baker may have had as much as 7 to 9 seconds to throw the football. Can’t blame the O-Line if you have close to 10 seconds to throw a pass.
Interesting. And discouraging. But I really trust Baker to review this stuff, take it to heart, and make changes. That’s just the kind of player he is.
Here’s one more, Baker ends up holding the ball and scrambling, but as you can see both Samaje and Baxter are wide open for the first down and more…
BM refusing to take a first down is just stupid QB play. Love the kid’s heart, but he has to play smarter. Obo needs to take that class too.
You ain’t kidding. WIDE open.
I don’t think his decision errors were unnoticed. He said himself it was a greedy move. I won’t say he will not be tempted to do it again, but the memory of a bad loss is usually enough reminder to take what’s there, not what you would like to be there.
Agreed. They definitely were noticed. Both Baker and Bob commented on it immediately after the game in the post game presser, and further elaborated on it today.
Baker did this a lot last year as well. He looks for the home run ball first. He rarely ever hits the underneath WIDE open routes first.
There is often big rewards “available” with big risks. Prudence is the answer . If the 1st down is there take it, look down the field for a wide open receiver if he’s not there get the ball out of your hands, hit the open 1st down receiver.
Did anybody notice that Emmanuel Beal came in for Tay Evans in the 4th quarter and played some pretty dang good football?
Not sure if this is allowed or not, but I made a thing that might interest some of you. Take a look and tell me how bad I suck. I broke down the first drive and have the entire rest of the game ready to go if there’s enough interest.
jasb.squarespace.com
Gave it a read, liked it. Would like to see more. The counter worked beautifully on Joe’s TD run. How may counters did we run the rest of the day?
Thanks Walter. The defensive stuff is more interesting, but it takes a lot of time to put it online.
I appreciate the effort. LOVE breakdowns on the games.
Well then, even if it’s just me and you reading, I’ll make more!
Like it!!
Really good, Maverick. I appreciate the work it must involve. Don’t stop now!
Well done and impressive. Keep rolling.
Thanks Boom! I just put up the first defensive possession but now I have a trench warfare to read!
Great job, I really liked it! Continue to do this Mav!
100% continue. And thanks for the time and effort you are putting in to it. It really helps to see what is really going on. This is great stuff.
Keep them coming. I’ve been going back and rewatching the game on YouTube quarter by quarter, play by play, position group by position group. I’m through the first quarter and hope to finish the game by the end of the week, but would love to look over your notes and see if what you saw, is what I am seeing. Thanks in advance for taking the time to do this!
Great stuff! Appreciate all the work. Hope you decide to continue.
Bookmarked, thanks.
Good stuff man! Much appreciated. Keep it up.
Good stuff man! Much appreciated. Keep it up.
Fantastic. Thank you!
Loved this, please do the whole game!
Is there a replay of the whole game online?
There are several on YouTube. Just search “Oklahoma Houston 2016”
It only seems to take about 24 hours anymore.
watchespn has all the good games this weekend. just need to use your cable/satellite login or barrow one from a sympathetic family member.
it works for either the watchespn website or the app
Does Austin stay a starting cb for the rest of the year? Or do we take our lumps with some of the younger guys?
Can’t do any worse with Cobb. And Mbanasor must be really on the outside.
Yeah I agree. Kind of disappointed abou PJ. With his size and speed I figured he’d be in the mix. Wonder if he is still banged up as K alluded too a week or so ago.
I thought Dakota’s play on the first drive was a great play. He had his head turned looking for the ball, he and the receiver each had a hand on the other, which is allowed, and he made a terrific play on the ball for an incompletion. Called for PI. I think he made a couple of other plays later in the game as well. It will be interesting to see if the coaches view his play as harshly as the fans.
Yeah the PI calls on him were b.s. I just think he is too limited with his size. Any wr with any size or physicality can just out muscle him. And you could play him off, but now it is just an easy pitch and catch.
I thought they switched because of the physicality of the wr he was going against and thought maybe Cobb would match up better. Apparently the competition was close enough in practice for them to insert Cobb that early
Dakota started both halves of the game. As far as I saw, he played the all of 1st quarter and all the 3rd quarter. Cobb played the 2nd quarter and the 4th.
Sounds like a prepared rotation to me rather than the dramatic pull that so many seem to be making of it.
Lot of criticism about the DBs, some of justified, for sure, but, man, it is going to be damned hard for any team to stop Houston’s big bodied receivers on those back shoulder throws. Have to disrupt the QB. MS made the choice to sacrifice sacks for containment, and I don’t disagree with that, as Ward gained zero yards. No other team will do that to him this year. But, on the other hand, we weren’t able to get to him often enough to disrupt his timing. It’s choose your posion, I suppose. But I sure would have liked to see him taken to the ground more often.
Could read through the comments but I’m lazy after working today, did I miss anything good from the PC?
Nope, same as always.
“I’m lazy after working today” :Decent explanation of Baker not seeing open receivers due to looking downfield for bigger plays and keeping rather than handing off on the option. Coach liked the play of the O-line, and thought the turning point was the Kick 6, fumble, fumble, series of events back to back in the 3rd q putting OU 16 points down.
Bob didnt even mention the Sugar bowl once.
Impossible
I believe ball security has been stressed so much to Baker that he has become scared of throwing interceptions. I don’t fault him at all for not throwing to receivers when they are well defended. If they want the ball, they need to get open. Yeah, yeah I know he missed some open receivers, but so does every other Qb. It’s still a case of not trusting guys that proved last year that they can’t catch the ball.
Disagree. He even said that he was being greedy for the big play. In Spring I was calling for frequent dump offs and short quick throws that L Jones used to make. Look at how the Patriots dink and dunk to a score. BM was looking for a quick score in the second half.
Agree with you D Hunter. The receivers he was overlooking were not “well defended.” I haven’t seen or heard anything to indicate fear or lack of trust, imho. I saw what you did, a guy aggressively looking for a bigger play downfield. Same thing both Bob and Baker said.
I know what he said…he said just what he was supposed to say. I’m sure he is also frustrated that he doesn’t have a receiver that he feels reasonably comfortable with that will catch you he ball. I’ve already taken a stand that every receiver he has, that was here last year, can’t get separation nor catch the ball. He was comfortable with Shep because he always found a way to get open and could be trusted to catch the ball. Yes, he is gone but unless Jones proves he is that guy, it’s going to be a long season.
Baxter had plenty of separation on several plays in which he was not targeted. He also made a couple of nice catches. On at least one occasion, on the critical drive both he and Perine had complete separation, not a defender near, and Baker held the ball looking for the play to develop downfield until he had to scramble. The same thing happened on the play where Baker was stripped, according to Stoops. I believe I read that Jordan reported Dusty watched the “all 22” view and agreed with Baker and Stoops that guys were open.
Completely disagree. Missing a guy open downfield because you don’t see him or because you can’t make the throw is one thing. Refusing to throw the ball to a RB who’s open 5-7 yards in front of you because you want to make the “big play” (as I saw him do MULTIPLE times on Saturday) is inexcusable.
Good evening my fellow brothers of Soonerland. First of all man what a not so good weekend. Our boys went out and sucked it up. Just wanted to give my thoughts even if my thoughts don’t mean sh** here. lol. Tired of ranting to my wife about the game so sorry if what I am about to say something that has already been said this weekend.
1. Our interior OL is absolute trash. Idcare how anyone from TFB or anyone else tries to spin it. Alvarez is an absolute soft player just like Darlington. Coach Stoops needs to overrule Bedenbaugh and bench him. Give Wren a try. I loved Ford and his nastiness though. I would like to see a Brown, Ford, Wren, Samia Evans front 5.
2. Lincoln Riley is dumb as hell for underutilizing the best 1-2 RB duo in the nation. How the hell do you call pass plays on 2nd and 3rd short yardage plays. He is too damn stubborn for always wanting to line up in the shotgun. With the size of our backs we need to incorporate an I formation. Go under center The running backs get a better start at the run IMO. Riley’s stubbornness to sticking with the Air Raid cost us the texsa game last year and this houston game. Bob needs to tell him either use Perine and Mixon 65 percent of the time or kick rocks.
3. As much as I love Baker his stubbornness hurts as well. Im sure it is well documented his lack of seeing the field and OPEN WR’s. He tries to make something out of nothing to much. Im sick and tired of hearing him say well I have a chip on my shoulder and this and that. Who cares. Also am tired of him saying its my fault and this needs to be fixed. He says that all the time and never seems to fix the issue. Our WR’s are also trash other than Andrews and Westbrook. Coach Stoops needs to take out Baxter and Lewis and let the guys like Miller, Smallwood, and Mykel Jones have at it. Its sad that we are depending on a transfer (Lewis) and a walk-on (Baxter) to be the guys. Why not struggle with young guys instead of veterans who will always be average at best.
Positives that I enjoyed after re-watching the game are the Defensive Line looks nice. I see all this crap being thrown at Mike Stoops for his units performance but his DL looked great. When was the last time a Stoops defense contained a Mobile QB the way they did Saturday? How many stops did we make in the 2nd half where our offense went and crapped it right away? All the Mike Stoops haters need to get a new tune. Riley is the most built up OC in a while and yet no one gives him the same blasting treatment Mike gets. Mike is a damn good DC and he can only do so much.
Dakota Austin is going to get burned all season if they leave him in so I hope the coaches give Mbanasor or Cobb a chance. Felt good to let that out and hope our boys get this thing rolling once again. Have a great day.
Late to this party but I can agree with several of your points here if it makes you feel better.
Good vent. I agree with a lot, particularly with it being time to try some new WRs/CBs and, IMO LBs. Baker will be fine. Perine and Mixon had better see the ball more or this will be a long season. D-Line does look good. Would like to see more rotation, but you can’t argue with success.
I’m with you on the DL. They played a very good second half. Speaking of second halfs, I am beginning to wonder about Lincoln Riley and his second half coaching/adjustments against quality teams. This is the second game in a row where his offense has failed to do anything. Either he isn’t or won’t make adjustments in the second half to offset the opposing teams half time adjustments or he thinks he can just stick with the first half script and win. Either way, the other teams D seems to adjust and shut us down in the second half. As of now, no one has blocked Houston’s number 41 LB. If we don’t make some major OL changes/adjustments/substitutions BM won’t last much longer.
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