Fall Camp Battle Preview | Cornerback

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With the departure of Zack Sanchez, something Sooner fans will be keeping a close eye on is who the Sooners select to replace him.

Let’s discuss the options…

Dakota Austin: Austin had a chance to see the field last year and was productive in his limited action. Mike Stoops has publicly said that the Sooners have won with Austin on the field and it would stand to reason that this would work in Austin’s favor. However we was not able to definitely win the spot in the spring.

Austin may not be the fastest or the biggest corner but he’s quick and aggressive. He’s similar to Sanchez in that he has a knack for finding the ball even when he’s out of position. And like Sanchez, he can give up a lot of space, sit on routes and then close space quickly on slants and curls.

There is saying, “small corners get smaller down the field”. So one of the concerns with Austin is how he holds up on deeper routes. But one of things I remember a source mentioning about Austin is, he will poke and poke and do whatever it takes to make a receivers life difficult down the field.

While there are set alignments in certain calls, the staff still gives the cornerbacks plenty of leeway to decide whether they want to press or play off. With Austin you’re going to continue to see more of what we saw from a guy like Sanchez, a lot of off coverage. I know that can frustrate Sooner fans who hate watching the opposing team nickel and dime OU down the field. But again, Austin has the kind of quickness that allows him to close quickly on slants and stops. And despite his lack of size he’s proved to be a pretty sure tackler as well.

PJ Mbanasor: Mbanasor has the look of an NFL cornerback at 6’1+ 190+ lbs. In the weight room he’s the strongest of the cornerbacks. In testing he has the fastest 40 time of all the cornerbacks. Mbanasor had a chance to start a couple games as a freshman but with a tough game against Tulsa he was pulled.

Mbanasor struggled with primarily two things in the game against Tulsa: (1) discipline in the coverage call and (2) lean and locate.

You’ll recall Mbanasor chased a few routes inside on a cloud call in back to back series which is what prompted him being pulled. This is an easy fix and a normal mistake for a freshmen.

The other main issue was his ability to stay “connected” when in phase with receivers on deep routes and then lean and locate the ball. Mbanasor is going to have to prove in fall camp that he has resolved this issue. In the spring game he showed improvement in this area. But perhaps more importantly he was very physical in his press alignments which allowed him to widen receivers and at times prevent receivers from getting into their routes.

Michiah Quick: We don’t know much about Quick at this point. Quick made the move from wide receiver to cornerback and the word out of the summer was that he was doing well in player-led seven on seven sessions. I’m told Quick has great instincts and we all know what a good athlete he is. Quick is obviously going to have to get caught up on the techniques. He’ll also likely need some time to get comfortable with the calls. Knowing the calls on the sideline is one thing. But having them come in at a frantic pace on the field while the offense is making alignment changes is another thing.

However, given that Quick has been in the program for a while and has seen things from the offensive side, I think this transition for him will be much easier than it will be for others including the young freshmen.

Antoine Stephens: When Stephens came to OU he was a big but very raw cornerback. Watching him in the spring game I started to really see what he can be. He’s a big corner that could potentially use that size to be physical. But he also seems to have good instincts and the ability to get down hill or break wide from a on off position. Stephens still has some work to do but if he’s willing to do it, the upside certainly seems to be there. He could eventually give OU a cornerback with a very broad skill set and ability to play multiple techniques effectively.

The Freshmen: This is a big unknown. All three of the freshmen, Parnell Motley, Jordan Parker and Parrish Cobb are talented players. At the very least the hope is these guys can push the older guys and provide some depth if needed. Cobb was a late Sooner signee so he didn’t go through summer. Parker had a minor surgery in June and didn’t return till later in July so he wasn’t able to participate in much 7 on 7 work. Motley is the only one who went through a full summer and the early word is that he’s a quick learner (vital for a freshman with any hopes of getting on the field).

Who Will Win the Spot?: Odds are it will be either Austin, Mbanasor or Quick. It’s difficult at this point to say which one because all three have obvious issues that they are going to have to address with the coaches.

What’s Working in Their Favor

Austin – He’s had some success on the field in limited action. He wasn’t perfect but he wasn’t a liability. He also showed that he can add a bit of that game changing element Sanchez brought to the table.

Mbanasor – He has the measurables. Big strong kid with good athleticism. He’s reliable off the field. Fans are often not privy to off the field issues players have. Mbanasor is a guy that the coaches know will do the extra work, be on time, stay out of trouble. Lastly, he’s young. If a race is close a lot of coaches want the younger player to start because it indicates the upside is much higher.

Quick – Since neither Mbanasor or Austin separated themselves from one another in the spring, Quick comes in with a bit of that new car allure. He’s a guy who understands the offense that he’s seeing and that can give him an advantage in terms of positioning and making plays.

What’s Working Again Them

Austin – Despite having some success on the field last year, he did find himself in poor positioning at times. There were times when he was bailed out by a combination of his good instincts and a not so great throw from the opposing team’s quarterback. He doesn’t have the size OU coaches would prefer. He wasn’t able to clearly separate himself from a first year cornerback.

Mbanasor – Consistency against the deep ball. If the staff can’t rely on a player they won’t play. Mbanasor has the upside and reliability off the field but he’s going to have to show it to them where it ultimately matters, on the field.

Quick – They don’t know what they’ve got. The same thing that’s working for Quick is probably working against him. He’s an unknown commodity but he’ll obviously have a chance to answer questions in fall camp. But if things are close between him and Austin or Mbanasor, my guess is Austin or Mbanasor get the nod. Being the newbie with no live experience at CB, he’s going to have to definitely win it…to win it.

129 Comments

  • Canada_KB says:

    Awesome write up thanks Super K!

  • NM Sooner says:

    Primero!

  • NM Sooner says:

    I think Dakota wins out, he’s a scrappy guy that plays hard!

  • metzker says:

    BOOMER!!!!Awesome K!

  • Daryl says:

    I think this year Quick won’t make field except in ST and mop up. Though I would love to see Quick return punts, but based on the hands issues I doubt that happens.

    Thinking ahead to 2017, I think Quick would be an outstanding nickle guy. He could easily take over for Will Johnson. Then you have to hope you have some guys that can step up at CB.

    Lastly, I hope Stephens can figure it out. Out of all of those guys when you see them in real life he looks like an NFL DB. Real Big. Real Fast. Real Smooth. BUT does seem lost on where to be at times. If he figures it out he could be a star.

    • Super K says:

      Good comment! Accurate and insightful

      • Daryl says:

        HAHA you are the one dropping dimes with these posts. Man you guys always do a great job. I wish I got to do what you guys do with this site, but I love drinking it in everyday. It is my form of day drinking.

  • yungkobra says:

    Just curious as to why Will Johnson isn’t being considered to move outside from the nickel position. He has more size than Austin and he played well last year. It would seem to me that Austin would be better suited at the nickel. Any takes?

    • Super K says:

      They need him at nickel but it’s something that may come up next yr. I know he’s thinking about that move next year. Great question btw

      • yungkobra says:

        Thanks Super K! I know we are deep at safety as well but Steven Parker probably would not want to be moved back to the nickel because that could possibly affect his draft stock. Regardless, I think we have a lot of bits and pieces that can be utilized during the season defensive backs wise if the new starting corner does not play well.

    • SamSooner says:

      Leave Will Johnson where he is. We got better when he got inserted.

    • Chris White says:

      I’m sure that’s a possibility, but sometimes you want your best and experienced to stay in their positions IMO

    • DCinAZ says:

      Johnson is a big part of the reason Thomas had such a good year last year.

  • Chris White says:

    Great post K, this is my favorite time on TFB when camp news and breakdowns come!
    One thing I didn’t see mentioned is your take on Kerry Cooks rotation of DB’s? Is he going two deep at all positions? Does that change your thinking of lineups? I really hope Mbanasor steps up simply because of the size. I think that would help against more physical running teams.

  • Bob Edwards says:

    Every time I see Dakota play I think of the phrase “It’s not the size of the dog in the fight that matters it’s the size of the fight in the dog.”

    • SamSooner says:

      Spoken like a true Southerner.

      • Bob Edwards says:

        No I’m Sooner born and Sooner bred and when I die I’ll be Sooner dead. I’m just a stranger in a strange land. Think of me as prophet to the heathens who do not know the truth. “There is Only One Oklahoma.”

    • Maranatha846 says:

      That’s my thinking also. To be honest, I wanted him to stay in when Sanchez got well. Sanchez would get interceptions, but was consistently beat on short passes, but Dakota wasn’t.

    • Spitting Bull says:

      I always preferred Dakota over Sanchez after the injury gave him a shot. In the end steady and sure wins out over occasional brilliance in my opinion. From what I remember he was assignment sound and a sure tackler.

  • KJ1123 says:

    Good stuff K!

  • SamSooner says:

    Okay, first, Super K, that’s some good stuff there. You put your foot in it. Thanks!

    I like Austin. He was solid when OU needed him to be. As for who will win the open spot, I’m betting on Mbanasor. Not because of his measurables, or his corner skills. He’ll win out because he has a strong mind.

    I watched Mbanasor after each mistake; his body language never changed. He didn’t let his mistake linger. He moved on quickly. Something even more subtle, and you have to look closely, is his I-just-learned-something demeanor. That can be described as osmosis: here’s one definition for osmosis: a subtle or gradual absorption or mingling.

    I believe this is what will win the day for Mbanasor.

    • Vegas_Sooner21 says:

      Exactly. He was getting abused and never once showed it in his body language. Like K said, if he just gets his head around on a few of those passes then hell, he could have picked them off. His size and speed are things you can’t coach. I’m on team PJ for sure. I get sick and tired of people destroying the kid because of one game where given the circumstances, it’s no surprise he struggled. JT screwed the entire team that game not just PJ. Sanchez was even getting lit up that game. Too much is put on that Tulsa game and it’s not fair.

      • SamSooner says:

        Vegas, you’re right: too much stock was put into that game. This kid is the real deal, I believe. He’s quiet and goes about his business.

        To be honest, he reminds me of Prime Time.

  • Dustin says:

    When Dakota was pressed into action last season, I was terrified at first, due to his lack of size. After one series I thought, “Nothing to worry about there. I need a beer.” I have a feeling the sting of losing Zack won’t be felt that much.

    • Daryl says:

      I agree with you. The thing that impressed me more than his coverage was his aggressiveness and his tackling. If you go back and watch those games he didn’t whiff on tackles and he had as good a pop has he could for his size. Loved it. Especially as a guy who played in HS as a very undersized guy, I am rooting for him all the way.

  • KJ1123 says:

    I mean seriously, someone can totally start up their own sooner website and use TFB for their intel if they wanted to, the info is THAT good.

  • GrandeBass says:

    1. Disqus, please. Fix your servers.
    2. Got high hopes for PJ and Dakota. I will say it’s intriguing to think about having Quick on the Defense actively reading the offense. If Quick finds a way to win the CBS battle, it will be due to his ability to diagnose Offensive schemes and route combinations. Looking forward to it.

  • soonerborn says:

    Great write up! Wished they would have made the move with Quick sooner. To bad Stavon never panned out at CB. Would have like to seen him make a move to WR.

    Can’t wait till the season starts!! Boomer!

  • Tony B says:

    K I heard that Cooks is talking about the starting corners only taking 80% or so of the snaps and having a rotation to keep everyone fresh like the D line does. Granted if someone is playing out of their mind in a game I can’t see them sitting but otherwise with the depth OU has I could see this coming into play especially during conference play.

    • Super K says:

      Yeah I thought about writing something about it because it’s something I’ve wondered about for a while.

      • Scott says:

        I remember when you mentioned about the ” Key starters , starters ” system. I definitely had a huge smile on my face.

    • ALar03 says:

      I love the idea of that.. able to get young kids in and get the feel for real game time experience!

  • metzker says:

    dISQUS Is just making it real hard to post and others to see or know you did.Shows 22 comments hit refresh bam its 35.I could see this pissing Jordan off.Ok you guys lets get this post count up!We say Jordan hit the refresh we have over 500!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    Good write up. Still hoping PJ wins the job. He can be the shut down guy necessary opposite JT. They would have a dynamic duo at CB and that should help a front 7 replacing most of their pass rush

  • SoonerOracle737 says:

    I get the feeling that Austin will win the job to start the season based upon his performance last year as Sanchez’s replacement, and also the fact that no one has clearly beaten him out. The most conservative play (or choice) is Austin and his known level of play. This doesn’t mean others can’t eventually win the job, but I think Austin will start the season as true #1. Season may not end like that though…

  • Randy says:

    Love the post.. I am concerned maybe we don’t have the speed at CB, I know there is more to CB than speed but it doesn’t seem like our Seconday will be fast. Not a huge deal I guess in the whole scheme but still. Mbanasor is a high 4.6 low 4.7 guy and he is the fastest ?

    • SamSooner says:

      When you’re where you’re supposed to be when you’re supposed to be there, you’re not slow.

      • Bob Edwards says:

        As they say there is speed and then there is football speed. There is an actual explanation for that in the case of DB’s. Coverage is seldom just a matter of outright speed. Speed in coverage is a combination of physical speed and read and reaction time. A guy may be 0.1 slower in the 40 but 0.2 faster in reading and reacting and be faster in football terms than the other guys. Also better position can mean a shorter distance to run which gives the appearance of faster speed.

        • SamSooner says:

          There you have it, folks.

        • SoonerOracle737 says:

          Someone was comparing OU talent to NU’s talent back in the 80’s. They made the comment that OU defenders could be out of place and by pure physical speed and athleticism they could recover in time to make the play. But NU’s defenders had to be in the right position to make the plays because they didn’t possess those extra-ordinary athletic skills and had to be much more disciplined than OU. So yeah, NU had football speed players in correct positions and defended well.

    • j l says:

      Quick is a 4.4 guy, so if PJ is faster..then we are in good shape.

    • Super K says:

      I believe Mbanasor ran a 4.5 in testing. He was a JR Olympic hurdler. Speed can be an issue but often it just appears that way. At this level it’s often a technique issue. For example, if you’re in a press technique against a 9 route and you don’t widen the guy…you’re in trouble unless you’re a 4.2-4.3 guy.

      • Randy says:

        Just going back on The Opening #’s it was a 4.6 to a 4.7 but kids have bad days and/or get faster so also that. Yeah, it makes sense but it seems all that can be practiced and taught. Just want those close fast kids back there would be bonus if they are 6’2 200lbs but we are not there yet. But I do like our CBs now and the ’16 and ’17 class so we will get there.

      • Birddawg says:

        Damn, I don’t believe for a second that kid will be denied the field.
        Too competitive and he’s got a good coach.

  • SamSooner says:

    Here’s something to wet your whistle:

    https://twitter.com/OU_Football/status/761269307078615040

  • j l says:

    Good work here. Cant wait to see who wins the job!

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    How much of a liability is Austin in the run game? Didn’t seem overly so last year, but he didn’t play against the bigger, stronger teams that could pick on him if they wanted to. I liked his coverage last year. And I don’t worry much about him being short on the down the field stuff. He’ll often have help deep, and if it shows to be a problem, we can always always adjust how we’re defending.

    Hopefully the dline makes the corners’ jobs easier this year.

    • ouwooferman says:

      Short players get shorter as the field gets shorter for the offense. fades are hard to get over the top help especially in the red zone.

      • SoonerfanTU says:

        I just don’t see it being a big problem in the college game. The NFL? Sure. Easier to pick on guys there. But there are going to be a limited number of teams in the college game that could make a game plan of picking on Austin downfield, and execute it to the point it severely hurts OU.

        I could see it being a bit of a problem in the redzone, but you can’t start a lesser CB just b/c of redzone problems. The coaches will figure out a way to help Austin in the redzone if he needs it.

        • SoonerfanTU says:

          I don’t know about actual heights or wing spans, but Austin is only listed as an inch shorter than both Strait and Sanchez. I worry more about his physique than I do his height.

          • cush creekmont says:

            I follow your point if you worry about injury. If you worry about his tackling, he is much tougher than Sanchez was both against blockers and tackling his own man.

            Bigger, taller DBs in the future will be great to have.

          • ALar03 says:

            Man that was so terrible rewatching those games… Clemson destroyed us running power to that side with no recievers over there

          • hOUligan says:

            My initial thought, too. A lot of angst released by many re Sanchez arm tackling. When Dakota came on in relief one of the upgrades he brought was his sure tackling. Good technique and fearless makes up for lack of heft many times. Can he get blocked out of a play or run over, sure, as can any corner. But not seeing cause for concern.

        • SoonerOracle737 says:

          Double teams are what that’s all about. Heck, we could even use Dakota as bait in that situation vs taller WR.

  • OklaSooner says:

    These brainiacs make the offseason just a little more bearable !

  • ouwooferman says:

    Great post. Competition brings out the best/worst in people. Pressure to perform creates separation. Super K, you get a big thanks for this taste. We are hooked and want more

  • thebigdroot says:

    Has anyone heard how Sylvie is picking things up? He has caught my eye for some reason.

    • Super K says:

      He will be good. He’s young but a lot of folks in the program think he has a bright future

  • SoonerFan92 says:

    So, the video that OU Football put up on Twitter seems to show Kendall being the one that threw the deep pass to Westbrook when he burnt Thomas. Not that anyone cares, but I saw a post up earlier wondering who had thrown it.

  • Slim Sooner says:

    I. Love. Articles. Like. This. Thank you.

  • Sooner Ray says:

    Thanks K, love these preseason breakdowns. I expect to see all of these guys this year.

  • Maverick says:

    Definitely rooting for Dakota Austin. Basically begged for a scholly, worked his butt off to earn it. He plays with a huge chip on his shoulder because of his size and people doubting him.

    He’s the opposite of a guy who wastes his talent.

    • hOUligan says:

      Word. Love the ‘gonna prove you and all the doubters wrong’ attitude. Think that’s why so many OU fans love Trajan Bandy. Some serious ‘dawg’ in tha ‘dog.

  • Maverick says:

    Biggest concern for me on defense is the linebackers. Not a ton of proven depth. We don’t have any real run stopping types. Hopefully Tay Evans has a breakout year and Obo can play assignment sound football enough to stay on the field.

    • Scott says:

      Hopefully we hear about Deberry , i thought he did good in the spring game.

      • cpearc00 says:

        According to Teddy Lehman and (possibly) Dusty, DeBerry will never see the field. I can’t remember exactly what was said but I remember it wasn’t good. Hopefully I’m wrong, but I’m not getting my hopes up about him.

        • Slim Sooner says:

          Wow, never see the field is harsh. Sure hope that’s not right for kid’s sake. Thought he was hyped and we were lucky to get him.

        • ZW_in_Austin says:

          I’m sure they said something very similar about Obo two years ago

    • Rick says:

      I’m in hopes that the high talent level of OUr guys is good enough to overtake the lack of experience. I think there is some real quality talent on the team, I’m excited to see a few of them to run through opposing ball carriers, big hits from our LB’s is something we have been missing lately.

    • Birddawg says:

      Need a consistent pass rush and the defense will come together..

  • connie usa says:

    Good stuff!!!!!

  • metzker says:

    91 comments hope disqus gets fixed.You might see this ya might not ———————–

  • cush creekmont says:

    Thanks Super K. We have been “hungry” for team info. It’s a shame we can’t see any practices like in the early Stoops’ years to see the comparisons you’ve set up.

  • hOUligan says:

    Think #wetoodeep will start showing as some of these pups get some time in and earn their stripes at DB, WR and LB.

  • Fear The Magic says:

    Great write up K. As usual your comments are insightful and worth a lot more than what we’re paying to read them.
    Im in the PJ camp. I think that he’ll take a big step forward this year and with tons of reps in fall practice and early season games I think that by mid year most of us will be singing his praises.
    I’m also the eternal optimist and feel that between Parker, Motley and Cobb at least one of them will step up and put themselves squarely in the mix.

  • ToatsMcGoats says:

    I love this piece. This is the type of stuff that I can never get enough of and the reason I keep coming back.

    I think Austin starts the season, but PJ works his way in around Ohio State. Quick will likely be starting next season. Just my 2 pennies. Keep up the good work, K.

  • Bob Edwards says:

    It seems to me the question of who is THE starter may not be as relevant given Cooks plan to have key starters and starters. You may see two players that are basically starters with the reps being closer to 50% than the about 80-20 he was talking about.

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  • BackWhenOUBoysCabbagePatched says:

    Quality work. Really nicely done Super K.

  • BleedCrimson says:

    Thanks K, Really enjoy reading this kind of analysis. +1000

  • Dana Rogers says:

    Super, K!!! ( Late nite – best I could do on short notice).

  • Dick Bump says:

    Excellento! K.

  • Doobie74OU says:

    Just my opinion but really hoping Manas or earns the start. Having both starting corners be in that 6′ – 6’1″ 190lbs and our Nickelback being the same size would make me thrilled to death. Buy bottom line if anybody flat out earns the job and it is not just a matter of being the best of the rest it will be great for our defense. Hoping our D-line steps up even more this year with pressure on the QB cause that will help the secondary more than anything!

  • metzker says:

    BOOMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • soonermusic says:

    late to the party, but wanted to say great job as well. There’s certainly no substitute for “the real thing” talent/size wise, overall, which might argue against Austin. But particularly in college, there are sometimes guys who seem to just be “winners,” and based upon the way he stepped up and surprised everyone last year, Dakota may be one of those. It’s that “game changing” thing that you referred to. At any rate, It looks like which ever of the three wins the spot will be pretty darn good, which is nice to see.

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