Open Post | Monday, Jan. 18th (UPDATE 7:57 pm)
Posted on: January 18, 2016
– Parrish Cobb: With the Longhorns looking like they may lose Obi Eboh to Stanford, Texas is making a push for OU CB commit Parrish Cobb. Texas defensive coordinator, Vance Bedford, visited Cobb and his family this past week. And whatever stock you choose to put in it, a number of Texas sites are noting that the Horns seem to have made an impression on Cobb.
However, I do not get that impression at all. I’ve spoken to someone very close to the Cobb family and was told, “he is locked into OU…his father is all OU.” In addition, I’m told Baylor really isn’t an option they are considering, either. – (Super K)
– Amani Bledsoe: As many of you know, the 2016 DE is down to Oklahoma and Kansas and most believe a decision could come any day now. Bledsoe was in Lawrence for the KU/TCU game this past weekend.
4-star Lawrence (KS) DE & #KUFBall recruit Amani Bledsoe in Allen Fieldhouse today for the #Jayhawks game vs TCU. pic.twitter.com/iEXkI0sRXG
— Randy Withers (@RandyWithersKC) January 16, 2016
We’ve been trying to talk to folks on both side of things to try and get a sense of which way Bledsoe is really leaning, and the latest we’ve heard is that some inside the KU program feel good about their chances while others aren’t so sure.
I spoke to a source who said, “his mom loves KU, and of course he’s from Lawrence, but it’s 50/50 with KU and OU…I talk to him but he’s really still up in the air with the whole thing.” It seems Bledsoe really is torn here, but the Sooners should know their fate relatively soon. – (Super K)
– Chris Daniels: Brandon caught up with Daniels’ father after their trip down to Texas this past weekend and should have quotes up later today or tomorrow. I just wanted to note that prior to the trip, after speaking to Daniels’ father, I felt this one was 70/30 OU. In talking with some sources on the Texas side, and in chatting briefly with Daniels’ father again, this one is now 50/50 in my eyes.
This was a big weekend for Texas recruiting, and they made a huge impression with a number of recruits. Having said that, Daniels will still have in-home visits and other trips, so we’ll have to wait and see whether this weekend’s excitement sticks.
I’ll also note that while his early favorite, Texas A&M, has come back into the picture, when I spoke to Daniels Sr. last week I got the sense they really had moved on from the Aggies. However TAMU had an in-home with Daniels last night and Daniels Sr. confirmed that they have decided to cancel their scheduled visit to Ohio State and take a trip to TAMU instead. So there appears to be at least a chance the Aggies are also now making a late push as well. – (Super K)
– Jared Mayden: Keep an eye on this one. For the longest time things between OU and Mayden really never seemed to get off the ground, and in the end still may not come together, but things are heating up a bit right now. And OU is a more serious player here now than they’ve been in a long time. – (Super K)
– Joshua Jacobs & OK Preps: If you haven’t had the privilege of watching 2016 OK Preps running back, Joshua Jacob’s film, do yourself a favor and check it out.
Jacobs may be set to pull in some high major offers before signing day. Also, a fantastic WR out of Shawnee, Jackson Winrow, committed to Vanderbilt last night. And Lawton WR, Rico Bussey, committed to North Texas. – (Super K)
– UPDATE (9:00 am): 2017 WR and FSU commit, DJ Mathews (Jacksonville, FL) is reporting an Oklahoma offer. He says he plans to visit the Sooners this summer.
– UPDATE (11:27 am): Sooners make the cut for 2016 LB/DB Clifford Chattman Jr.
https://twitter.com/cliffchattman/status/689135433989537792
– UPDATE (12:55 pm): Stoops & Cooks with 2016 CB commit Jordan Parker.
#SoonerCountry #OUDNA pic.twitter.com/Xkp4frFgAk
— THE JONAMAN ‼️🥷 (@1BigJP) January 18, 2016
– UPDATE (1:18 pm): 2016 JUCO linebacker & OU offer, Kapri Doucet.
https://twitter.com/hit_squad_4/status/689163765971984384
– UPDATE (1:56 pm):
Like @TheFbBrainiacs mentioned in the OP today #OU is back involved w/CB Jared Mayden (@MaydenII). Tells me he'll take an OV this weekend.
— Alex King (@AKing_Evals) January 18, 2016
– UPDATE (7:57 pm):
https://twitter.com/Jauan_Jwill/status/689263537697480709
Enjoyed seeing the best O-Tackle in America & his family tonight! He's got that #OUDNA
— Lincoln Riley (@LincolnRiley) January 19, 2016
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Good to receive the reassurance on Cobb. Big fan of his game.
2017 WR & Florida State commit
https://twitter.com/dat_dj/status/689088839860785152
Does this mean we may be missing out on Velus?
Scholly offer is for a 2017 WR, not sure how that affects Velus. Just sayin’.
Oh thanks Ed, didn’t catch he was a ’17. #MondayMornings
Who is the backup plan if Chris Daniels goes all Stephen Dale on us?
Still after Southall and Taylor from what I understand.
I was under the impression Southall was a take even with Daniels.
Yeah I think so too. I just hope we can get 2 out of the 3…Daniels I definitely want, and then I’d take either of the other 2.
Uterus thinks they get Taylor they need D line in the worst way
Not sure just yet Lincoln. They are still expecting a visit from Briston Guidry though.
I’m thinking we took a huge step back in recruiting when we lost Monty and got Diron, I don’t expect Jackson, Daniels, or Southhall to be at OU. Yes I know it’s his first year and he needs another year or 2 but we have seen what happens when u give a coach to much time when he cant pull in recruits (Willie Martinez), It took Mike 3 years to get kids back in
I think you are COMPLETELY overreacting…
Valium?
LOL. He SACKS!
At least we pulled in 3 studs last year at DT, so I’m not as concerned as I would be most years.
So Super K did you say on the Texass edition Cobb to UT?
Haven’t addressed it on there yet. Andrew probably will and I know he agrees with me. Neither of us feel Texas can flip him at this point. The Texas writers definitely seem to think so though. But we don’t.
– No chance Mayden goes to OU.
– Everything I’ve read about Mark Jackson says he and his family are high on Texas. Especially Coach Strong’s disciplinarian values.
– It’s crazy that Texas waits so long to pursue guys like Daniels and Cobb, yet still make a good impression. I have faith that OU’s coaches will reel in those two since they’ve put in the hard work over time building relationships.
Then again, recruiting this time of year is always unpredictable until NSD. Thanks for all y’all do TFB!
re: #3 – that’s a BIG reason you’ve seen OU recruit more on a national basis in recent years.
Seems to work the same way in Oklahoma with OU, like Dahu Green last year.
Kind of, yeah. But probably not on the same level, both in frequency and level of prospect.
What did Bobby Jack Wright say years ago—–something to the effect that no matter how much success and tradition your school has, you’re still looked upon as an outsider by Texas recruits and coaches?
Could not agree more with that statement. We need Texas recruits, but we have to pull recruits out of areas where we are not comparing with texas. I feel like we do a pretty good job that.
For a team that has had 2 losing seasons in a row, 5 players drafted in last two years, and coach on the hot seat. Basically irrelevant since 09.
It amazes me they can still compete to get talent.
Tons of Texas grew up with a life long ambition to become a longhorn that is tough to recruit against. Mack used to have his class committed no later than 45-60 days after the previous year’s NSD. Now it is taking Strong 11 months and his class is not full.
Performance on the field has its impact but it does not eliminate life long dreams.
“No chance”…definitely disagree there. On Jackson, yes we reported a while back that Jackson’s family wants him at Texas. Cobb was pursued by Texas early but he chose OU and everything we’ve been told is that he’s solid with OU and not seriously entertaining Texas. Thanks for reading bud!
What’s the backup plan after Bledsoe and Kongbo
Not sure yet but they are pursuing Guidry.
Will TFB be putting together an official visit list & post for this weekend?
Yeah Brandon and I went through the list yesterday. It’s not big but there will be some nice players in town for sure.
Great stuff! Would love an update on Velus Jones post-USC…
Will try my man 🙂
Do you think the way Lampkin ended up at OU could help Daniels make the decision to stay with his commitment to OU? Heart says OU so in the end plays at OU.
Also, maybe program stability and an NFL caliber DL coach will keep him at OU.
Meh. We’re keep both of Skrong’s new targets. I say we go hard after theirs too
I read this post and thought of the pass Tim Tebow completed to an OU defensive lineman in the NC game years ago. (muscle memory and mental automation takes over?) …”After having broken down the offense in the bowl game, by far the two biggest problems were at Center and (surprisingly) QB. Riley also needs to use the center better based on what he has there. Mayfield was the biggest issue, leaving a bunch of yards on the field. He looks but doesn’t sees. He literally can look at a wide open receiver and not see him. :-/ He needs to improve this off-season in order to beat playoff level defenses!”
What kind of drugs are you taking right now? legal or illegal?
Hey, man, I’ve been drug free ever sense I got out, man. : )
Muscles don’t have memory, but I’m cool with discussing motor control theory.
Okay I should’ve used italics. It’s a phrase I’ve heard several times by TV game commentators. Perhaps its use is a layman’s way of saying something relating to entraining one’s proprioception, epicritic touch or vibration sensation via the dorsal column-medial lemniscus tract; or protopathic touch, heat/cold sensation, and pain sensation; or as you say, something involving “motor control theory” via the CS tract, et.al. One can’t leave out reflex activity, in any serious discussion, either, I just don’t think commentators have enough time to fit it all in between the plays. Thanks for the correction, though. : )
I saw that original post on OUI. Is that where you saw it too?
I don’t recall which site right now (pre-senile dementia? LOL). I skim through many, very quickly usually while in a soonerDNA binge. An afterthought is that maybe the OL, with more experience, will be able to give our QB more time to see “wide open receivers” rather than think about a scramble next Fall.
i thought daniels and father were annoyed texass offered so late but now they are interested in them #confused
the draw to Texas is their ties to Coach Strong
Texas needs a dramatic improvement or Coach Strong won’t be there long, anyway.
I completely agree, but that doesn’t seem to be affecting their chances w/ some top prospect.
totally agree its crazy that they dont look and see their first years could be the only year with strong
true but you would think that they would have been on him sooner if they had ties to him like that. i know if it was my son i would be somewhat offended to be in their home state be rated that high and not get an offer until late ya know. iono i think he will stay but then again crazier things have happened
As a Texan he is supposed to feel honored.
hahahah its crazy tho cause he was offered by alot of schools and they were so late its like why even want to go there with the shaky establishment around them
Yes. Just like the other 9 teams are supposed to be honored to join with the powerful and glorious OZ…er, texsa in the big 12-2.
With the way coaches move around these recruits need to focus on the school and not the coaches. Coach Stoops has the record to show stability at OU but you should not go just for a coach. OU’S history for preparing young men for the NFL should be enough…one would think anyway.
If they have these ties to Charlie Strong and he didnt offer Daniels until the 11th hour then the Daniels should be pretty insulted IMO
i agree
You gotta do your part and get on twitter and compliment these divas.
https://twitter.com/SuperK_TFB/status/689110271520968704
TFB, I’ll ask because I think it’s a valid question.
Saw on LT that while on his Texas visit this weekend, “Charlies’s playing the race card apparently, told Daniels that they have “80% black athletes, so why not have 80% black coaches.”
Is this true? Does Strong and his staff do this with other recruits also?
That furr sure sounds like bs
Hope so
LT is allways BS
Agree…And I suspect texsa still sucks, right?
Yes Cush its 9.54 and yep, they still suck.
Just wanted to make sure you were on the ball this Monday AM 🙂
Lol yep been up sense 4.30
that’s bs,Nobody thinks like that, and if that worked grambling would win a natty every year.
“Nobody thinks like that.”
Correction: Nobodies think like that. And there are unfortunately a lot of nobodies. Not saying Strong is one of them, but in the new America meta-narrative, #RaceRulesTheDay.
Well if race ruled the day then alot of HBCU’s would be getting power 5 football invites and thats not the case.
“HBCU”.
Exactly my point. I’d rather not speak more of this topic here, man. But in other news, did you hear Spike Lee is boycotting the Academy Awards show? Because #OscarsSoWhite?
Spike Lee is a joke.
You know, you really shouldn’t be so hard on jokes. They didn’t do anything to you. 🙂
So is the not so gifted actress, Jada Pinkett Smith, that will teach em
You do know why they have those right? HBCU’s?
Yeah, man. I’m aware. That’s kinda my point. The fact that HBCU is a thing (and an acronym) and celebrated in a society that in other facets is not only anti-segregation, but also anti-affiliation if the glue of community is race-label uniformity, then we can’t reasonably say that nobody thinks that a predominantly black coaching staff is a recruiting selling point. After all, there are those who obviously think one college type is an attractive destination for higher learning simply because the population is and has been predominantly “black”.
ok…..
And that has what to do with today? being the best? playing for championships?
It had to do with a conversation you werent invited too.
Oh man, I missed the post invitation function on this board.
I’m so so sorry. Please show me where the invitation sign up is so I can join in.
Oh wait, you’re full of crap.
Special kind of stupid to post on a PUBLIC board and act like it’s private.
I sent you the sign up sheet. dude its not that serious calm down we are here for sooner football nothing more.
No you didn’t.
You were the one acting like it was serious.
I’m completely calm and you can’t switch this to me.
If it’s just football why did you go off topic?
Wonderful attempt at covering.
To be fair: I was the one who got off topic. I really didn’t mean for this to turn into another fruitless back-and-forth. I just disagreed with a comment, but the nature of the disagreement is a hot potato on the table of public discourse. Probably best we turn the discussion back to the football-ing.
Sorry if I upset you, KT, or anyone. Boomer.
ok……not attempting to cover just trying to agree to disagree, I have a general rule about internet arguing and I’m breaking it right now,good day.
Race has always been an issue in america its not new.
Thanks, kt-raida. Something to think about for sure.
Not like it is now. This is a new malevolent purely destructive form that is designed to rip society apart. There is no healing anywhere in this movement. It’s socialism dressed up as racial grievance.
http://49.media.tumblr.com/7df513ceeffd250d484125b06fc40dc7/tumblr_nsfbuxjHjn1sj3oxho1_250.gif
Are you freaking kidding me????? so you are saying that racial issues now trump racial issues in the 60s, 50s, 1800s?
Can you not see the difference int he SJW of today and the goal of previous racial equality campaigns?
KT, I think what Brain is saying is, not ignoring the racial struggles in the 50s and 60s, is that people are aware of what’s acceptable and knowing that, they continue to perpetrate hate boldly. That makes it more dangerous.
And that assumed in the language of the movement is a more pernicious account of the American narrative meta-model that wills for a systems reset and an end state of a more centralized power structure.
But that’s for another thread. Football good. Me like OU. 🙂
good way to put it. always get civil conversation from you. But this guy…#Trump2016
I am really disappointed in Strong. If this was reversed, the Black community would be outraged. By his standard, all Black athletes should attend historically Black colleges, only.
Shameful.
That’s what I was trying to say with my original comment.
And not only is this not to correct some supposed injustice, they are openly calling for the destruction of civil society. It’s not trying to fix anything, just burn it all down.
Sam, I’m kinda older, my dad was racist shearly out of ignorance. He was taught that Black people were to be hated. I could see by the time I was in HS that what he had been taught was just not right. I have no bias now because of color and will not tolerate it with those around me. I think you are exactly right that there is a mentality that is now being taught AGAIN, to keep the hatred stirred up.
Like Rick, my grandfather on my mom’s side was a complete racist. He objected to his daughter marrying my dad (Mexican-American). But in his later years he softened and spoke with my dad often. But he was rumored by my mom to have “hooded white clothing” in a locked chest. I rejected all that. I had multi-racial friends and girl friends. OU has a history of accepting all and Barry Switzer treated all players with equal respect. BS does the same. If this is true about Charlie, it shows he has no moral compass.
Thanks for sharing D. Some things come full circle.
Where is the outrage? Can you imagine what would happen if a White coach said don’t go to that school because their coaching staff is 80% Black?
Sam, I also think a man (regardless of color), that is trying to win a championship should choose his staff based on being the best person to fill the position. I think for example that Coach Tiff is on staff, because she was the very best hire for BS when he looked for a nutrition person, and Coach Reynolds was the very best person available to fill the position at his hire. Given the information we have on Coach Strong, can we now believe he is hiring his staff based on best qualified or is he hiring based on race?
You could be right. How many HC jobs has he had? Louisville and texsa, right?
What was the make up of his Louisville staff? The texsa gig could be a carry over; however, if his next gig has the same make up, you could be on to something.
His behavior is like a person in a desperate situation. I think he’s under a lot of stress at texsa; that’s one job no one should want. It is not coincidence that the flagship program in texsa cannot have sustained success with its choice of recruits.
I was taught by my grandfather about race at a young age. But it is not what you are thinking. My grandfather was a Cherokee Indian and was treated horribly growing up. I was always taught that the color of a person’s skin does not matter, what matters is the color of their heart. I’ve never understood the need to judge someone by the color of their skin nor did I understand some kids I knew growing up that had such a hatred for someone that was “different” from them. I always did my best to steer clear of those types of individuals as I wanted nothing to do with them. Just my two cents worth.
Yes
how
Having lived through the previous years of hatred based on nothing more than the color of a person’s skin, that was passed down from father to son, and really looking at it objectively and rejecting it based on what I perceived as an absolute truth. My change of thinking developed out of my faith based study. I don’t care where people find a basis for change, but it needs to happen. To me the current hatred is based not out of ignorance as what was taught to my dad, but based out of an INFORMED platform of hate that is a designed effort to continue to perpetuate more hate. I have no problem with any person based on their skin color, the agenda behind hate for any group of people against another group is the problem. To me this is much more dangerous than that of ignorance and fear based racism.
How many lives lost on the current as opposed to the latter?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but are you saying that the past ignorance and hate justifies the current hate? I hope that’s not what you intended.
no. what I’m saying is both are dangerous but the past was hands down the most vile, form ever
kt, you are way too good of a guy and way too smart to believe that. If you do believe that, there is no room EVER for healing. Both types are evil, both should not be tolerated, both must stop. Holding on to and harboring a “most vile” attitude from either camp is deplorable. If you want a stand against evil, I’ll be right beside you. If you want to hold onto crimes my dad or grandad might have committed 60-70 years ago then we have no common ground. I would rather be beside you.
Like a glass coffin, remains to be seen. The miseducation of millions looks to be more dangerous than a lynching. All of our American youths are at a severe disadvantage with all the “information” they have access to.
wow
My hat is off to you, sir.
Sam. How you doin’? You and I need to make like the Walrus and the Carpenter and talk of many things.
Agreed- this could easily be addressed from the top but it’s not, it’s been perpetuated and exploited for political gain. This administration has been nothing but divisive, not an ounce of healing in its message.
Bad lessons all.
Very well said.
I believe that was quoted in a Rivals story. So, yes, I believe that is true.
No freaking way?
I mean unless the reporter is making up the quotes (which I seriously doubt) or Daniels just really, really, really misinterpreted what Strong supposedly said I’m not sure what the other explanation would be considering Daniels is directly quoted in the story.
I believe you Jordan just Wow is all.
agreed
Is there a link? or is the rivals story deep behind the pay wall….
If that is true, I’m sick to my stomach. As a person of color, that is disgraceful. It does not teach/prepare the young man for success beyond football, when he is forced to sit in an executive meeting where less than 10% of executives are people of color.
Sick to my stomach is exactly how i felt, as well. I really, really hope this isn’t true. Because it’s one of the grossest recruiting tactics I’ve ever heard of.
Smells of desperation.
Strong can try and sell that bunk, but let’s not assume Daniels and others are so gullible to believe it. If they are or want to use it as an excuse like Delance did, we’ll see them for their ass-kicking in the Cotton bowl.
Link?
higher than 80% chance that Strong and his staff are gone after 2016 season. If his family wants him at OU, then he will go. Pretty simple.
Of all the schools to be playing the race card–ut? Disingenuous at the very best. Of course it’s not ut playing that card, it’s strong. I wonder if he knows the history of the school he’s coaching at? Or, I wonder how well he knows who he works for presently. Either way, you are right imo, martin. I think he’s gone after one more year and then they’ll be playing for a white HC, imo. Don’t think ut keeps him if he loses 5 games regular season, and looking at their schedule w/no qb and how terrible a road game they are, and OU probably beating them. Can’t see ut hiring two black HCs in a row.
btw, they could have 4 losses 5 games into the season b/c of their road play and I could see them losing 2 out of 3 homes games against bay, tcu, wv.
Facts don’t matter to a desperate man.
True
Charlie may Strong-arm his way right out of Austin
I think he stays if they go 8-4 and win a bowl.
If you can’t win them over with all the losses on your record, might as well pull out the race card. I’m sure they use the SAE story with those same kids as well. But hopefully they’re not buying that BS…and if they are, OU really doesn’t need that type of kid.
Great info as always. Getting more worried about Daniels. 247 has an new crystal ball with him going to the horns.
I think Reynolds needs to show some killer instinct here with Bledsoe, southall and Daniels. Not to totally change his approach but go land/keep the guys that he’s been leading on for awhile.
It has long been Bob Stoop’s recruiting approach to not pressure recruits to make a decision until they are ready to commit. The exception to that is perhaps when they have one opening for a position and are still recruiting 2 or 3 prospects. Then all three are pressured by he that commits first gets the scholarship.
https://twitter.com/SuperK_TFB/status/689114546271875074
https://twitter.com/clicclac97/status/689115149026881536
Sounds like the “validation” tour – “they really, really, like me afterall.”
Still if Mr Daniels wants to be a special player on a WINNING team = OU.
^^^new definition of committed^^^
Or the need to be committed. LOL
Gag reflex kicking in. Honestly, if he becomes a razorsow or one of the hornless orange, all the best to him. Hope he makes a better decision and chooses OU, but the decisions of 18-year-olds are mysterious and mercurial at best.
Commit, not commit, or tentatively commit?, those are the questions. Wouldn’t using your birthday cake with a school logo during your announcement party, only to flip later, fall into the category of walking under a ladder, black cat crossing in front of you, breaking a mirror, etc?
60 comments and not a single BOOMERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sooner! But we did it on the earlier news post.
BOOMER!!!!!
What color is Amani Bledsoe’s sweat shirt? That tells you all you need to know
Kansas has crimson in their colors.
Your a glass half empty kind of guy huh?
Nope, I’m just educated on my interests.
you need to read less. you have far too much education
When an alleged commit starts hem hawing around with other schools, say, we have another option surface. Do we have the ability to decommit the hem hawer proactively, and offer his spot to someone just as good who really wants to be here?
Until they sign a letter of intent there is no binding contract between the two parties. We are free to pull an offer at any time. It’s not something you want to do on a regular basis for PR reasons, but from a rules standpoint it is perfectly fine.
Thanks for the clarification. Agree on the judicious use, but leverage works both ways and if we had an opportunity to land someone equal or better than the original target, it’s an armament worth consideration
Stoops has had the policy in the past that when you come off the board, he quits recruiting your position, however, a recruit that continues to take visits after his verbal, he continues to recruit to that position. Fair is fair.
jACOBS Has some scoot to him doesn’t he?
Brainiacs,
Have you guys considered a OSU edition of TFB?
Why? the 3 fans they have hang out on OU boards anyway.
It would include more Oklahoma kids.
How? That’s a made up position. they cover them all now. Just admit you’re a pokie.
Small fan base and they’re annoying, so I’d advise against it
I’m sure the goal is to stick with larger markets and win those for now. Slowly but surely.
this
Wow, one intelligent reply. Thanks for the actual thought on this. Instead of an unwarranted attack on osu
Pokie boy.
Unwarranted? This is an OU site.
yeah … the 10’s of people that have assess to internet and know how to read would be really interested.
access*
Impossible. Pukes can’t be brainiacs or they wouldn’t be Pukes. The title would be something like, “Fertball Phonics”.
Can we make the OSU site inside scoop on horse judging? They seem to be pretty good at it
Would that be called the Horse Judging Brainiacs?
http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/equine-program/2014HorseJudgingTeam.jpg/image_preview
We’ve already seen how they “judge” sheep…
I don’t think there is much of a market for articles about guys they will never get or about beating out SMU and Tulsa for a low 3* safety.
If Daniels really wants to play somewhere else, let him. I only want players who really want to be a SOONER!
I think this is ridiculous!!! They’re are dozens of kids that currently “don’t want to play for us” right now. If we can convert them, it would be awesome. Who cares who that kinda maybe sorta want to play with someone else before the sign LOI. As long as the want to play for us after they sign LOI, I’m all for it.
I totally agree with that. Almost every player that comes to OU didn’t grow up a fan and doesn’t have any loyalty to the Sooners until they reach campus and strap up on Saturdays. Recruiting is never about, who really wants to be a Sooner. It’s about which university works best for them, their family, their education, and the coaches and players that they feel most comfortable with and give them the best chance to propel and exceed to the next level.
So true … If we go with Junky’s strategy of recruiting, we’d have the whole Tulsa team on our roster. Good luck winning with that.
Sounds like Daniels is going to back out at the last minute. The Strong connection worried me all along, and if Texas ever really showed interest, he would head to Austin. Would also explain the recent push for some JUCO linemen.
Honestly, if a kid who supposedly had a connection with Strong doesn’t feel insulted by an offer within 1 month before NSD, he probably doesn’t have the right attitude to be at a school like OU. Most kids would be really pissed and want to play against that coach…
Yeah we did that to the Justin Manning kid who was OU legacy and for all intents and purposes loved OU but OU slow played him so long waiting to offer that he ended up at aTm
Yep, and like Daniels he was a major target that OU just flat out ignored until that last minute, so he went elsewhere.
The bigger question is not the offer, but it is how much were they talking to him and his family before the offer. With Justin Manning we were not reaching out until we offered at the last minute. If you are shooting straight with kids and telling them an offer could come but you are looking at things then I think sometimes you can wait to offer late, but when you cold shoulder and offer late that is a bad recipe unless the kid just loves your school!
We do the same thing. Didn’t we offer Dahu Green late? He said he wasn’t insulted, but I doubt that disqualifies his attitude. This is all part of the “recruiting game.” The kid has a “nonbinding” committment to OU, so I cannot understand why some are so upset with him for exploring all of his options. If we want the best recruits, we have to compete all the way up to NSD.
Dahu Green had no family connection and was recruited because of bigger targets that OU couldn’t land. BIG difference.
Oh please. A difference without much distinction in my view. We shouldn’t be “disqualif[ying]” kids on such flimsy grounds. I don’t blame the kid one bit for looking at UT. But the thing about opinions is that we all have them.
Yes, there’s a MAJOR difference between Chris Daniels and Dahu Green, but your opinion is that there isn’t, so that’s cool. One kid is a nationally ranked DT (for well over a year) that has offers from most major schools, and whose family knows the head coach of UT.
On the other hand Dahu Green had offers from schools like Arkansas State, Boise State, Louisville (best offer outside of OU) and was a 3-star, with no connection to the school. Your comparison is very different in situations.
I’m just trying to better understand your point (really). So, on Daniels because he had a familial connection and is nationally ranked, he doesn’t have the “right attitude to be at a school like OU” if he “doesn’t feel insulted” by getting a late offer. So, I guess you’re saying he doesn’t have the “attitude” you’d want to see – e.g., Paul Pierce being motivated to beat every team that didn’t pick him in the draft. But, Dahu Green, who was not as highly ranked and didn’t have the family connection, but played right down the road from OU, has the “right attitude” even though he wasnt’ offended? I think I see what you’re saying, but I’d still take Daniels in a second and can’t really fault him for taking a close look at the school at which he’s probably always wanted to play, regardless of the offer timing.
I think the larger point I have (not necessarily against your point) is that a nonbinding committment is just that – nonbinding. I’d put it on the coaches to get out there and compete all the way to NSD to get the most talented players (including anyone in the top 100 PLEASE! :))
We had Jay Norvell as the coach at the time , Dennis Simmons & Lincoln Riley offered him right away when then arrived at OU
in regard to daniels thinking about texas possibly or any other recruit checking out schools after committing its fine. this will be the only time in their life unless they become nfl free agents that they will get a carpet rolled out to them and they get to see how things are at another school so im all for them going and checking school to make sure they love the one they are committed to. i hope daniels stays at ou but if he doesnt then it wasnt meant to be #nextmanup
Then why even commit in the first place? Im all for exploring all of your options to find the best fit but then explore away and COMMIT ONLY when you’ve made your final decision!
For all of you recruits out there.
The definition of “Commitment” – an engagement or obligation that restricts freedom of action.
Addendum: this only applies to those commits thinking of uncommitting from OU Not for those thinking of uncommiting from other schools to come to OU.
thats true too. maybe pressure to get it done iono. maybe daniels isnt going anywhere but we have seen in levi drapers case where u commit then get the offer u want and go with that
Part of it is pressure for sure. The reality that schools have only so many scholarships and sometimes very few for a specific position. If you wait and try to weigh out options or wait for an offer from a school, you can miss out on an amazing opportunity.
Daniels is a perfect example. There is no doubt he loves OU, but it also seems very certain that his family loves Charlie Strong. Daniels did not have an offer from texas, but OU is an incredible opportunity with few scholarships left. He commits and then all of a sudden Texas offers at the 9th hour. So because he now has a new opportunity in front of him he should ignore it? I don’t think so. I hate it, but I understand why it happens.
This is why I feel like an early signing period would be so great for the athletes and the coaches. To offer a guy like Daniels early and recruit him hard and get a commitment while texas was chasing other people only to have texas come in late and offer makes it so hard for the kid and the coaches. If they make a decision let them sign in the early period, if they are still unsure then let stay uncommitted and wait to see how it plays out.
I understand the pressure these kids are under and the reasons that they might accept an offer if their top choice hasnt yet offered and with no guarantee that they will. That being said it becomes a matter of priciple as by committing to school #1 they in effect very well may be restricting that school from going after other recruits at the same position and thus hurting that school. A commitment is in essence an oral agreement and while not binding legally, ethically it should be.
I totally agree with you I really do, but again this is why they need an early signing period. It is not the kids fault for wanting to take advantage of what he and his family believes is a better opportunity. It is also not a coaches fault for trying to sway a kid that they feel can benefit them that is not written into a contract yet.
Get an early signing period and it will get rid of a lot of this last minute stuff for sure.
Agree. It’s like like getting engaged, and THEN starting to date. It’s supposed to work the other way around.
There’s a rumor (and I cannot stress the use of that word ‘rumor’ enough) that Jerry Montgomery might be taking a job w/ USC. Which would be, um, interesting (at least for me).
Interesting, how about blasphemous
say it ain’t so
Does SC have a DC? Only job that would make sense, IMO.
they do. the rumor is Monty as the DL coach
That would be a great hire for USC. That man can recruit!
USC recruits itself.Beachs and blondes.
From pros back to college interesting.
if it’s true, I thought the gb job was his ticket to his dream of the nfl
Well it might have been, but now that he has actually lived the NFL life he might see that it is not all he thought it would be.
that was the story at the time
We can see it on film, MS screaming at JM and treating him as a subordinate on the sidelines. From MS perspective, he was here (OU) from the beginning, HC is his dear brother, and he was a HC himself. But too bad we couldn’t have JM here as well.
Again if true, anything less than being offered the DC job would be a downgrade from his OU job as he was offered that here.
correct
ot……..hey, fear…….looking at the playoff standings, looks like the rangers are going to be embroiled in a playoff fight for the stretch……pens, et al are only 4 pts back and out…….haven’t seen the caps play but they’re running away with it
Yep rp. The Rangers dont look as good this year. They should make the playoffs but thats about it. The Caps are really good. Ovechkin is a total beast.
BLACKHAWKS!!!!!
Pffft
11 in a row. Recognize.
double pffft
hagelin, a ranger I miss, traded to pens……his speed will fit right in
Pretty sure all the USC guys think it’s Clancy Pendergast…
I Clancy was named already, I live in LA.
He’s the DC, yes. The rumor re: Montgomery w/b as the DL coach.
He is still recruiting for us.
was there any issues with him and Mike Stoops not working together too well? Anyhow, always liked JM. Hope he makes the right choice for himself as I think he’s super talented.
Short answer is yes. There were a number of rainbow & lollipop stories put out by others after he left, which was understandable in the sense there is zero purpose for Monty to burn bridges on his way out the door. But the deal is it was presented by some was quite inaccurate.
One thing though, there was a big improvement on the D line and it wasn’t about recruits in 2015. In a sense we lost a great recruiter for an effective coach.
http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/011116aab.html
I’m aware they already have a DC in place. The rumor is Monty w/b the DL coach.
I can’t imagine JM taking a step backward to USC (I’m not arguing with you Jordan, just thinking out loud) after being kinda on top at OU. I was still wanting to see him come back here some day especially looking at his twitter page, he still loves OU, I thought he might really want to come back some day.
Wish nothing but the best for Monty.
I’m a big Monty fan. We all know he’s a great recruiter, but after a year working under Dom Capers in Green Bay, I bet he’s a much better DL coach now
Daniels, Southall, and Taylor are predicted on 24/7 sports to be whorns
This is BS, we cannot lose both.
by the Texsa writer. According to their writers, anyone who can find Austin on the map wants to commit.
Let the have Southall. And we’ll take Daniels or Taylor.
Hope Daniels does not make the same mistake Lampkin did. Always a good idea to go with your heart not what others want for you.
I think that’s the problem. His head says OU but his heart, due to ad, is looking at UT.
Correct, they went with Texas because they are a Texas family. But they knew deep down that Oklahoma had done the better job recruiting him.
What do you mean they went? As in past tense, as in actually pulled a trigger or are you referring to went as in a visit?
I think he’s talking about Lampkin and his original commitment to texas.
Whew.
update added
No new update showing since the 9am one. At least not here.
Not seeing it.
I see nothing
Sargeant Schultz? Is that you?
I did not even get up this morning!
I don’t see anything either. Assuming it’s about Clifford Chattman’s top 5?
Jordan are you typing in invisible ink again?
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Dustin, what’s up, bro?
Just hanging out inside, enjoying this wonderful weather.
Must be warmer where you are than where I am. It’s flipping cold here!
It’s warmed up to 23 so far.
It’s 27 here, but the wind chill is around 11.
There’s no wind here and the sun is out, so we have a heat index of 34.
We have cloud cover and a strong breeze. I’m ready for summer!
It’s about 70 here in front of the fire in my recliner. 😉
lmao nice
I’m jealous!
18 … and sunny
What wonderful weather are you talking about. We have 12 degrees in Northeast Ohio. With the windshield it is darn near zero.
Where has Sooner Ray been?
What does your windshield have to do with the temperature?
Sorry, I forgot you patrol these waters.
What happened to your “* wind chill” post?
Just thought you had holes in your windshield or something.
Nope, just “wholes” in my writing. LOL!
The solution is near. I’m starting my own online university.
I’m calling it “A Smarter U”.
I’m inn.
You were my inspiration.
I aspire to be you. So, sup with Sooner Ray?
Dustin, (My daughter is an English teacher) I threatened my beautiful daughter within an inch of her life if she ever corrected my grammer or spelling again, and I love her dearly. I think there was a lesson residing in this post somewhere….
Where?
Think it was for the Texas TFB SMH!!! 🙁
But not added.
On Twitter about this same time TFB posted a tweet from Chris Daniels saying he was finally offered by his home state Arkansas Hogs. May be what the update was about not sure though!
Texas and Arky slow playing and we are worried.
Did you hit the send button?
If we lose Cobb we better get Mayden. If Daniels goes to whorns, we need Southall. Just need to match and I am happy. OU fans are expecting a roll for Big 12 titles and playoff appearances and titles. No more steps back.
from what I’m seeing Southall is a step down from Daniels
Southhall = DE
Daniels = DT
Think the update was a premature Boom!! LOL
If Daniels decommitts than that is just how recruiting goes but as it stands today he is a sooner and I’m not gonna get anxiety over something that hasn’t and may never happen. Just sitting here waiting for the next boom.
Where’s the update!!!
I love reading the progression of some of the threads. They go from rumor to fact to rumor to fact in about 10 minutes…lol…#waitforit
I don’t know why some assume we’ve lost someone? I haven’t seen any semi- reliable information that we’ve lost anyone?
You can’t never lose what you ain’t never had.
There’s no time for fact-checking on the “Internets.”
Man I would like to see ou get Clifford Chatman and I know he would take a year or so to put on the weight he needs but he has more animal in him than any other recruit I’ve seen he’s just ferocious and a crazy man on defense
Recruiting is the life blood of any program…but I don’t get too worked up over it. Regardless of how each recruiting year turns out…still got to win with who is on the roster…recruit the best player to your system (i.e. Stanford)..coach’em up mentally and physically (aggression and confidence) then release the HOUNDS!!! or Sooners!!! lol…
Just checked the TFB Orange version to see what is being fed to folks over there and it ain’t pretty. And I understand it’s a business model but…. First, there’s that whole orange thing going on. Then seeing K telling texsa fans Daniels is 50-50 trending texsa’s way…. feeling a bit nauseous. But kids do what kids are gonna do and these kids are no different. If allow your attitude to be shaped by the whims of 17-18 yr old kids, you are bound for disappointment. It’s on to the next man that truly wants to take the opportunity and be a Sooner.
I still think they should get Andrew’s avatar some sleeves for the winter. It’s cold.
Thinking maybe baby diaper stain orange hoodies would be in order.
He’s from TEXSA, he don’t need no stinking sleeves.
Put him in a Boom t-shirt.
Im sure your name looks just as bad as mine in orange when i go there lol
It was my first and likely last trip. Lurked for a minute before feeling the gag reflex kick in.
You probably lost 10 IQ points over there as well.
That’s the same thing K said in OUr thread.
Agreed dont like it
Just tell the recruits 5-7 , and 4-8 next year.
I said 50/50 here as well bud. I won’t sugar coat on either side. It’s definitely trending Texas right now. Stoops and Reynolds will have a chance to hold things off tonight.
Yeah. It was the ‘trending’ on TFB ‘orange’ that caught my eye but however it is characterized, going from 70/30 to 50/50 is definitely ‘trending’ away from the ‘good guys’. Appreciate your work, K.
What’s the deal Esco?
Just saw this on ESPN.com and thought it was cool:
B12 YARDS AFTER CONTACT Leaders:
Samaje Perine, Oklahoma, 2.92
Joe Mixon, Oklahoma, 2.89
Shock Linwood, Baylor, 2.67
DeAndre Washington, Texas Tech, 2.41
Mike Warren, Iowa State, 2.02
I’d say we have the best backs in the league!!
The Big 12 has never been OUs standard for Running backs. OU sets the standard and everyone in the nation aspires to meet it.
Really frustrating that daniels might flip considering all the crap he said during his video.
If you arent sure, say you arent sure. Dont say this is it, im done, and then (possibly)flip less than a month later.
Come on now … we’re trying get other that are committed else where to flip to us yet when it’s happening to us it’s not right. Come on man.
First of all, i said nothing bad about the kid. I wasnt bashing, merely expressing frustration. That is allowed in today’s PC world isnt it?
Second of all, have these kids that we are trying to flip, publicly stated, on video, that their recruitment process was over?
Did you watch daniels recruitment video before replying to my comment? Because if you havent, you might want to get all the facts 1st.
Come on man…
Why does that matter if the stated on social media or in video? Everyone knows that nothing is official till signing day. I don’t care if a kid has a longhorns tattoo. If he’s elite and changes his mind at the last second on signing day and we’re still recruiting him … I’m good.
my entire point is, dont say your process is done, if its not in fact done. Its really not that hard.
I understand kids flipping, it happens all the time.
When asked the question if you are done with recruiting, simply say im going to continue to explore all options until i sign on the dotted line.
If kid we are trying to flip have gone on record saying the same thing, i think the fans of the team they are currently committed to have a right to be frustrated as well.
Just to be clear, being frustrated is ok. Telling a kid you hope he blows his ACL, trash talk him, etc, is not ok. Im doing the former, not the latter.
Not to continue to harp on this little deal but my analogy would be this:
I hate it when kids do the hat on the table deal and fake one school just to pick another … absolutely disrespectful. Well except when they pick us … then its funny as hell.
You can’t be frustrated at a kid for the reason of changing his mind (no matter how resolute they sound) and at the same time cheer on a kid for changing his mind when picking us.
If Celab Kelly tells media that he is going to commit to ND and that’s the end of it … would you be mad at him later if Viney gets him back to OU or would you say … Don’t want him anymore?
Again … take it for what it is .. NO ONE is really committed till after they sign LOI.
Ive been a sooner fan going on 30 years. I went to school there, ive never cheered for another team. Recruiting is the lifeblood of the program, probably the most important aspect. I want SOO badly for us to do well, so its hard not to have some sort of emotion on the subject.
As long as that emotion dosent overflow into bashing on the kid, I really dont see the harm. We arent robots man.
As to your example, would I be mad at kelly? Of course not. Would Notre Dame fans have a right to be frustrated? I think they would.
You dont think texas fans had the right to have a single emotion about the lampkin situation last year? I dont blame a single one of them for being frustrated.
Those wishing ill on the kid are a different story though….
I too am frustrated when kids don’t commit to OU. Its the end game that frustrates me (whether they commit to us or not). I’m not frustrated at the PROCESS as to your original post that mentions of being frustrated when a kid changes their mind.
As I mentioned, kids changing their mind goes both ways including the ARKY commit DL that we’re hoping changes his mind too.
I know we arent going to get every kid, just sucks when a kid says he is coming, without a doubt, 100%, and then basically immediately starts waffling.
haha so true … I think we’ll still finish this year strong and already have a huge start on next year. Hope the recruiting aftermath from our play off trip proves more beneficial than the return we go from out last NC appearance.
Ya i think its going to end up being a good class. I know daniels wont make or break the class, just dont like to see years where we completely miss out on a position. Typically means you have to go to the JUCO route to fill the gaps. I hope we can land southall if daniels flips(or even if he dosent), but who knows lol.
With the kind of season we had, recruiting should be a big boost. Hopefully these next few weeks have some big booms coming.
Thanks for the mature convo. Boomer!
No real surprise at this point OU doesn’t make the cut for 2016 LB Dontavious Jackson
https://twitter.com/DJACKV_/status/689154079767961600
What happened with Dintavious. It seemed we were in a good spot with him. Did he move on from us or we did we move on from him?
I think OU just felt better about some of the other guys on their board.
He moved on early. He’s more about self-promoting himself. He accomplished what he wanted: he got the attention and the offers he coveted.
So what happened at 11:27?
I checked and texsa still sucks. All I could find.
Its 12.42 and yes texsa still sucks
We made chattmans top 4. The update showed up
It’s UNANIMOUS
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/year/2016/poll/1
update added
Silly Cali kids. Temp gets below 60 and they put on a beanie. It does look good, though.
I used to wear a beanie all year here in okc.
Is signing day Feb 3?
It is, yes
thanks
np
Can a recruit fax their signing letter earlier and be “locked-in” with their commitment?
I don’t believe so, no.
are we expecting the Sooners to keep their 3-4 alignment? It seems to me that they have some good players on campus that don’t really fit that. Austin Roberts at 6’6 260 doesn’t really sound like a good fit for that 4i tech that Tapper is leaving and definitely can’t see a guy that long dropping into coverage..What are you guys hearing? I’m also really curious about where G. Campbell and K. Mann fit in. Neither one sound like a 4i or an OLB.
I expect a 4 man front next year if they can find defensive ends that can get to the passer. I think Walker can play one of the 2 DT spots and I think wade or Romar can play the other. Can dimon and Ward or the young DEs get to the qb is the real question mark.
The depth in the front seven is a major problem in my mind. They either stay in a 3-4 and have plenty of linemen but not enough backers or switch to 4-3 and don’t have enough linemen but plenty of backers. Either way, if they change the scheme, we can expect a step back I think.
I think we have plenty of linemen it just depends if the ends can be pass rushers. If not were better in the 3-4/3-3-5 and being creative with pressure
We will keep the 3-4, obo and Deberry will step in at jack backer with Roberts or Ward taken over Tapper’s 5 tech spot. K. Mann is a 5 tech for sure, G. Campbell will probably be as well, but he has the frame to beef into a 3 tech.
Somebody get coach some spanx for men. And a different colored shirt.
Actually our biggest selling point is that our coaches don’t wear Spanx
Does Chattman hold an offer from OU??
yes
I love this time of year, when the local beat writers get so desperate for content they attempt to cover recruiting. Always good for a chuckle.
BREAKING NEWS! The Jokelahoman hasn’t broken a sports story in 3 years! (probably) LOL
update added
OUDNA come on down Kapri.
Just visited ‘Ville. Is he coming to Norman this weekend or next?
Strong down there throwing the race card around about him and his staff to recruits huh? Well….ya have to admit. It’s low, but it’s probably effective for him.
Today of all days: Strong’s actions are an insult to the legacy of Dr. MLK: Dr. King wanted people to judge by their character, not the color of their skin.
Not going there. Just saying that’s how he really is and it’s going to be a problem for us as long as he’s there.
In the world of leadership, Strong does not have what it takes to win. Because, in the end, he’s not the one leading: the boosters are.
Great point Sam.
What is this in reference to, did I miss something?
Scroll wayyyyyyyyyyy down bear
Good afternoon, RBear. Supposedly, Strong is using race as a tool to recruit Daniels.
gotcha, thanks- I scrolled down to the abyss and took it all in, even added my $.02
sad
Sad, indeed.
Are you going to be at the tOSU/OU game. I will be there. Maybe we can all meet up.
I wish… prob not but that would definitely be nice. If anything changes, I’ll let you know. I’m sure (good) tix will be scarce.
I’m going to get my brother-in-laws away tickets. I bringing Max along.
1st game in the newly bowled-in stadium right?
Yes.
oops… just noticed that ULM is here first- 1st BIG GAME though
Yeah, that’s right. Max is excited.
RE the Arky offer to Daniels. I’m sorry but if Steven Parker had offers from every top team in the country except OU and he was committed to one of them, then OU offers 3 weeks before signing day, he’s not coming to OU. That’s just a slap in the face from Arkansas. All this last minute push on these guys who are already committed makes the whole thing a bit crazy. You just never know what an 18 year old kid is going to do. It’ll all shake out in the end for OU. It always does but still…
ya try to flip a kid, part of the game and ou does it too
I think some schools get wind of a player getting a case of the jitters and they jump in.
Our head coach out recruiting and not even wearing OU gear seems out of sorts to me. But it’s probably just me.
Maybe his stuff is in the wash but yeah … that blue looks horrid!!!
Pretty sure if my job was to wear OU clothing to work, I’d do it. I know when you’re in charge, you can wear whatever you want to work but still. At least he wasn’t wearing orange!!!
update added
Jordan is busy today yeeee hawwwwwww.
But “OU has no chance in hell” for Mayden?
I don’t know where these trolls are coming from. Funny enough they never back their statements and drop off immediately they are proven wrong
The next two weeks are going to be Crazy! I wish I could sell tickets to this upcoming rollercoaster ride.
TFB Family, I’ve been thinking about our friend EasTex a lot lately and I’m concerned about his absence. I think it was last year his daughter was going through some challenges. I don’t know the details, so I don’t mean to speculate. EasTex is a man of priority. I’m concerned and I’m sure you are.
What I’m asking is that we keep EasTex and his family in our prayers. Ask God to lift up EasTex, should he need it.
Im with ya Sam
Sam, hopefully, he is just avoiding the angst flying around about recruiting. He also mentioned taking off to Oregon – maybe he’s getting away.
While I love OU, I would get away now if not for my business – Maui sounds pretty nice….
Crush, thanks for the information. I remember he did mention something about a gun show and hunting. That could be it. I certainly hope so.
Yes. He talked about the upcoming gun show here in Tulsa, but I think his interest was a wildlife area in Oregon (I think – I’m in that old guy world too)
yeah, I too think this is an annual thing, he avoids speculation and guess what time it is?
I know. Since I’ve been coming here, I’ve not seen this many days pass without a comment from him.
Agree. He does not like the speculation but I recall him being around often last recruiting cycle and putting out his ‘wish list’ and celebrating when Hulk announced his OU commit a few days prior to nsd. If he’s in Oregon at that refuge, I hope he plays it smart and stays safe. A volatile situation down there.
I feel ya.
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We are thinking about going to Maui next winter. Went to the big island Hawaii for the first time a few years back (landed on day OU beat Bama). Best vacation I EVER took.
Was hoping I’d see EasTex Upvote this post.
I thought he said he would be “out” for little while (few weeks maybe).
Blaster, thanks.
I hope so. I didn’t think he meant to go off the grid. But that is what it looks like.
Your welcome.
Thank you for this comment Sam.
No problem. This is a great community where everyone cares for others.
And I like you, too, Sam. Nice guy
I’ve been concerned about EasTex’s absence for a while now. Hope all is well and he’s back with us soon. Also miss boomersooner. We’ve needed his particular brand of blunt force hammer skills a few times lately!
You’re right about BoomerSooner, also.
TFB Mods, is it possible for you to send an e-mail to posters? If so, can someone reach out to BoomerSooner?
@jordanesco:disqus Is there any news at all on Kellen Diesch? For some reason I just have a gut feeling that he could be a flip candidate. He flipped from Arky already once and Aggie isn’t the most stable class currently. I know Coach B heavily targeted him, just wonder if OU is even contacting him still or not. Also think Briston Guidry is still on the board.
I think K told me recently he’s heard some whispers about a possible late flip, or two, but not sure if Diesch was one of those. Also just posted a note from K re: Guidry.
Well would you looky there. Right on time! Thanks Jordan. As usual you guys are on top of every subject before anyone else. Please keep it up. The info is top notch!
thank you for reading!
If it weren’t for Jordan I wouldn’t be reading TFB. Thank you sir.
that can’t possibly be true 🙂
I just read TFB for the pictorials.
https://twitter.com/SuperK_TFB/status/689180951235043328
The press for Guidry foreshadowing that Daniels will be a whorn?
Doubt it. Probably just them not sitting around waiting for Daniels to waffle back and forth with ATM, Texas and OU after he just committed to us.
Daniels waffling is the sign of a kid who is getting closer to NSD and is just not sure, then gets sure, then someone gets in his ear and he is unsure again.
I think his dad has a preference for coaches he’d rather see Chris play for but that’s just my opinion.
Do you think he prefers Stoops?
I think Stoops i on the list. I’ll leave it at that.
Might not be feeling as confident about Southall
Meh, maybe, I guess. Though I’d say it’s at least as much about them only having a single DL commit (in Daniels) as it is anything else.
are we losing ground with Southall?
OU would take Daniels and Guidry without question I would imagine?
yes
I appreciate this quote from Stoops. It’s from an article on another site. Stoops comments are from the past but the article is in reference to Daniels.
“He’s not committed if he’s taking visits,” Stoops said in August 2012. “And we tell him that. Then we say, ‘Well, if that’s the case then you’re not committed to us.’ We don’t accept that commitment. We’ll keep recruiting guys at your position.
“You’re kidding yourself if you think that’s a commitment.”
I like that approach. If guys are going to keep looking and visiting (even if it’s just for fun), then I would keep looking for guys who want to commit and not keep looking.
I like it as well. Ole Dabo goes one step further and makes them decommit if they want to visit anywhere else. Torn on doing it that way, but seems to be working for Clempson at the moment.
Good spelling of that place too! 🙂
Clemsa?
Not bad! While I am “old school” with ClePson – you might start a new fad! Good job!
I think that USED to be Bob Stoops way to recruiting. He may still personally feel that way but before last season or the season before that he backed off that official position and “allowed” recruits to continue visiting other schools. It is my belief he did this because it was the new reality that almost every recruit committed and still visited even if they were committed to a premier program. It think, and its purely speculation on my part, that this change in practice came after he spent a week in Alabama observing Saban’s practice regimen/program operations. I wish I could remember where i had read that; it contained him saying as much.
It’s an interesting observation. That is the “old way”. Telling recruits “if you visit elsewhere, then you lose your offer…”. Mack was the same way, until he couldn’t be any more. I don’t know if that rigidness hurt us on the trail or if our recruiting slump (2010-2013) was simply attributable to two or three assistants just not getting it done. There is no question that 2014 thru today, the recruiting results have been remarkably better. Better coaches, or different philosophies. Probably both. I don’t think Bob fires long-time assistants without taking a look in the mirror at the same time.
I would say the upswing in recruiting is as you pointed out- new coaches replacing underperforming staff. You’re right about Mack, his methods stuck Texass with players who had been evaluated too soon where as Stoops likes to see them their senior year which was fine when OU was getting a better pick of the litter. ATm, Baylor and TCU have really altered the Texas recruiting landscape.. Seems like the sec is getting deeper into the Texas high school programs. I think Bob Stoops saw all this vey clearly and made some interesting recruiting adjustments.
Kapri a piggie lean?
Hey TFB do you guys have any new info regarding Chip Viney?
Yes but we can’t really comment on it right now.
I understand , thanks for letting me know.
Wink if it’s good… super sad face if it’s bad.
Thanks, Super K.
is it good for OU?
Cool. I have some super secret inside info that I can’t share with you right now either. 😉
LOL, damn you!
That doesn’t sound good.
Can’t tease us like that K …Good or bad 😉 …. I know you’re an attorney,so if it helps, I waive my rights, it’s not legally binding… Everything…I’ll sign it all
Jordan, seems like we keep offering and have a ton of offers of kids that are in play.. who do you think we end up with on signing day??
Let’s end the drama with a certain verbal and flip Guidry
Man i dont see how we can keep taking all these dbs.Understand its hard to turn down these guys but how much room do we have?Stoops must know of more transfers etc.What about the Dline all these guys keeping us guessing someone is going to get turned away.Guidry or daniels gezzzzz.
We need the big bad boys upfront to knock people on their asses.
I so agree just dont know how many we can take
We only have 4 committed now. If we add one or two to that, then it’s a bit heavy, but I think 4 is a good number of DBs for every year. If we end up taking 5 or 6 DBs in a “small” class, it makes me wonder if A) we are thinking of switching positions for a couple of guys, or B) we are about to lose some guys we don’t know about yet.
My thoughts as well.
Makes you really appreciate a guy like Perine. I remember watching all the recruiting drama that year just like any other year. We were so anxious to find out if we were going to get Mixon or not. Perine had been committed since like the summer or something. He turned out pretty good so far.
who’s perine?
shame
🙂
So are we after this Joshua Jacobs RB reminds me of Darian Hagan and Jamelle Holieway
As stated below by K, there’s no communication b/w OU and Jacobs
A faster Kejuan Jones.
So visiting this weekend…
Doucet
Mayden
Next week/weekend…
Guidry (midweek)
Jackson
Fowler
EMB might take an unofficial with his family at some point…
has EMB already visited OU?
Yeah
Strong reply and way to come in there K!!! LOL!!!!
I like the DJ Mathews offer , I feel really good with OU’s chances with some of these 5 star recruits in 2017.
And the rich get richer.
https://twitter.com/Landgrant33/status/689193420666068993
HEY!!!! THE USED OUR BOOOOOOM!!!!!
I am now convinced the name Urban is latin for &%&(@
If Kendall would of never committed to OU , I believe Haskins would of been ours.
Haskins is a great athlete but not the complete QB Kendall is right now. Maybe Haskins develops his passing game but I’m overjoyed with having the Shrine Bowl offensive mvp coming to QB the Sooners.
Scott, if given a chance would you rather have him (knowing LR went specifically for him)and why?
would have*
I don’t blame the kid….Maryland…why?
I think he’s from the baltimore area, but I could be wrong
Potomac, MD. About 20 miles west of College Park.
Yeah he’s from Maryland. Urban and his staff know how to sell to their target audience – 3 highly ranked commits in one day
Ohio St. just got three commits, I believe, including another dude they flipped from Maryland. Urban is a salesman, dude.
Dear Ms. Bledsoe –
“”In ESPN’s weekly college football poll #1QFor128, the coaches were asked if they had a son playing college football, and you were no longer coaching, which current FBS coach would you want him to play for? Richt and Stoops tied as the No. 1 choice, each receiving 8 percent of the votes.””
That’s all you need to keep in mind, Ms Bledsoe. Coach Bob and staff will take good care of Amani and coach him on life as well as to the next level.
I would bet every dollar Esco has that Chuckie Strong said something like this at dinner time with his big recruiting weekend: “Look around this room…look at these guys…we have assembled here the future of a great team… come in together, play for each other, play for Texass…and you will restore the lost glory to this program and become Texass legends.”
He did the same thing with last years class, I am sure of it. His MO is to get recruits there together so they can see the nucleus of the future team. OU on the other hand, and I am not saying this is a bad thing, likes to get players and family there in small groups or individually so they can give them their undivided attention, tailor the visit to the recruit’s special interests.
And then he said, “because the man has it in for you and oh oh we have black coaches and pay no attention to the stories about me getting fired.”
I heard we haze recruits.
both seem effective
I think both are probably effective. I wonder if one is more so than the other?
https://twitter.com/sportsiren/status/689183837679669249
Unanimous #1!!!!!!!!
Great job Coach Kruger and all you guys on the team.
Now, beat ISU and hold on to that top spot!
http://www.burntorangenation.com/2016/1/18/10783486/texas-longhorns-official-visit-weekend-brandon-jones
And how helpful is it for the school to have its own network? No other program in the country can take prospects into a studio created by ESPN that only serves that program. It’s a truly unique opportunity for those recruits.
Huh? Do any of these recruits have a current, REAL understanding of the failure also known as the LHN? Studio Schmudio.
hell no they don’t have an understanding. they see the set and just think TV GUYS, it’s TV! I’m so pissed and feel dirty that I read that site.
Great, maybe I’ll be hungry again later.
We’re having cheeseburger soup tonight, come join us.
im not gonna stress over whos on the bubble and whos not it happens every year its apart of the game. things turned out well last season and will continue going forward join ou and be ready to win and grow if not then be salty watching them win
Yes!
A year ago it appeared the wheels were coming off the schooner. This year, our boys were two wins away from taking it all. The coaches have stepped it up in recruiting the past three years. We will finally see that depth pay off, real soon. What OU doesn’t get this year in recruiting is sure to come in the following years. Keep your hands on the plow, hold on because the end is in sight: good things are coming.
agreed. this year’s class looks very good. it’s good right now
uh-oh
https://twitter.com/SuperK_TFB/status/689220697713807360
Boy just got a salary increase.
I don’t get this sentiment. If we are not able to land this cat with the team and integrity we have, it’s not worth the heartache. On to the next
Edit: Missed the Ole Mi$$ thing. Yikes
Choice is simple: OU has the highest paid Dl and Ol in the NFL. Arkansas can’t beat Taco tech, OleMiss will never beat out Bama for the conference, and Strong’s second year at texas was worse than his first. Let’s compare: Stoops 1st year 7-5 bowl game, second year 13-0 National title. Strong 6-7 and 5-7…
So this officially becomes a bidding war!
OU in first with Reynolds and Gundy, next in the door is ole mi$$ followed by pig suey.
We’re good.
But I follow Daniels on Twitter he is a good kid and he is smart and he is really loving the recruiting process and I can’t blame him. He responds to tweets and is pretty active. I hope he stays a Sooner but, he has some real good teams looking to get into the mix so it has to be exciting for him!
Still has a pic of himself in OU gear as his pinned tweet as well.
That he does sir!
He must be lazy…we don’t need him s
Elaborate on these “good teams”.
Exactly.
Come on Hunter you know I am a Sooner but you also get to a kid these other teams are good in his eyes!
It’s good to be wanted sure. It’s like a girl you first meet. It’s fun and some nice conversation then you look a little closer and she’s not what’s best for you.
Hell I still go through that at 35 lol! But great comparison!
You are a bad man.
Clearly hence why I am still single lol! But, I am rather picky almost married 2 crazy ones so I am not so sure I am just looking to get into anything lol!
(They’re all crazy…some to lesser degrees than others, but crazy nonetheless)
Come on man good teams in the eyes of an 18 year old kid! You have schools like Ole Miss, Ark, and Texas coming after you it has to be exciting to him! Mean we only see OU and I get that but he see’s it as a fun experience! You guys know exactly what I meant!
It’s all about attention. But when you say it for what it is, it sounds shallow. Because, it is. Attention is nice but your word is your bond.
True but that’s on the parents to teach him that most these kids have no idea just yet what that all means man! Some do but, most don’t!
You have to remember that this is a once-in-a-lifetime experience for these KIDS. Let them enjoy the process of making such an important decision.
That’s all fine, live it up and have fun but you have to educate these KIDS on what commitment means.
if you’re their parent, sure
I try to stay involved in my community while my joints allow it.
I try to stay active in all the joints in my community, especially on “happy hour and rattlesnake Tuesday.
I understand all that. But, I also appreciate those kids who choose to commit and then try to work other guys so as to recruit a great team. They have a right to do the once-in-a-lifetime thing. But some have a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to help recruit the best support for their success over the next 3-5 years
Last year at this time I was very frustrated before NSD. But people like Sooner Ray , Eas-Tex , and a couple others said just ride it out. They kept saying it will be all right . Things turned out pretty well.
Last time I checked his commitment wasn’t binding. He s being recruited by great programs; programs that are highly rated, popular, and doing a great job at selling themselves. All of the fans of those programs hate us too and make unsubstantiated claims about foul play in the recruiting process, blah, blah, blah. It s the recruiting marketplace in which we are competing and our coaches have to sell the OU brand all the way up to NSD. If we can’t get top 100 players, we should look in the mirror, not blame the players and attack other programs like petulant children (not accusing you of such by the way). Now let s close strong!
But that’s the thing, he didn’t have to commit either.
Yeah I hear you…I’m frustrated too! I just want us to be getting guys from other big time programs too.
Ole Miss, Arky and Texas lol good teams?
When he had A&M, Bama, and Ohio State coming after him?
Perhaps with all the school-rush, the texsa stuff gets stirred in with others and he can just come back to where he was good-to-go.
this may turn into signing day pick-the-hat theatrics
may?
He is good but not the program changer all this attention seems to indicate. Same drama happened a few years back with that DE out of OKC who went to LSU….. Haven’t heard a yip about him since.
yeah, when watching lsu couldn’t recall his name, clark maybe?
See… This is what I meant earlier. A kid begins to waiver and “explore his options” and every program gets wind of a kid with the hemming and hawers and they swoop in to see if they can get on the kids dance card.
Just think though, if he stay with OU and now having all these sec teams going after him, his ranking will go up and therefore so will OU’s team ranking… HA
I found this an amazing story, in light of MLK day. I hope some of you might appreciate it.
https://twitter.com/SInow/status/689213213305663488
I’m embarrassed for the kid, it’s getting a little ridiculous, and very disrespectful to us, IMO
kids… happens every year. Big stages for the first time really.
Exactly what I was saying below!
You’re right, but gee whiz, don’t commit if you’re not sure
Ok so you have a hot girl wants you to take her to prom in this case OU, then all the other hot girls hear about this and get involved (Ole Miss, Ark, and Texas) and want you to take them to prom. Well now that you have all the hotties at your disposal it feels good to be the king and at that point it’s real hard to stay committed cause well your not married just yet!
It’s crazy but some people expect people to stick to their word. I know that is a wild thought here in 2016 and I apologize for the old timers.
Dude my parents raised me that way but, I think it’s a known thing that most kids have no idea what Loyalty, Commitment, Trust etc. all of that means. But shame on the kids parents cause they eating it up just as much living through their kids success
That literally describes my senior prom, and I stuck with my first choice which was a sure thing ;•}
Whichever one puts out usually wins. Just sayin…….
Well idk about y’all’s school but most the pretty girls at my school all put out so it rather becomes the most sure thing and maybe the safest at that point. The point is when you have your option of flavors it’s hard to just choose one lol.
He was sure, then he wasn’t. He will be sure again, or will he? This stuff happens every year, I’ll just have a beer and wait to see what we have on signing day…..not worth the stress.
Or 2 beer
Who’s counting? 🙂
Not me hell, I am gonna run to store for some basketball snacks & shiner
Atta girl.
That is true. We can only wait for the Crimson and cream to rise to the top.
https://twitter.com/LincolnRiley/status/689224144890777601
Yes! Can we get a 4-2 or 4-3 guy on the outside?
Glenn Frey has passed on. Great guitarist in a great band.
Great singer songwriter as well…love their music
RIP to a talented musician. Eagles are still a favorite of mine. Classic.
First time Posting! I’m a Sooner fan and I’ve been an avid TFB reader for a while now. Just wanted to thank TFB and the regulars on here for the best sooner news out there!
Welcome. Go ahead and get all crazy…it’s that time of year.
You picked a crazy time to post. Welcome and remember to put on your thick skin, it can testy in here at times.
Welcome aboard CJ. Greatest site with the best fans.
Welcome!
Welcome, CJ.
Welcome!
Well, welcome to the site. TFB is the best for true OU fans!!
Welcome to the board CJ. You will enjoy being here and reading all the juicy stuff they put up on this board.
welcome!
welcome
thanks for reading!
Welcome and BOOMER SOONER!
Some might say “we’re half-way there”…
http://129.15.14.161/CameraImages/largeimgSoonerVision8MP1.jpg?v=1453162324155
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Ahhh, Thanks man
Thanx. Looks sweet ‘bowled in’ but just imagine how it’s going to look filled with Sooner fans and how it will sound that first time the team takes the field. Makes ya wanna yell BOOMER!!!
Yes, thanx! Football at OU just keeps getting better.
I guess there is no emoticon for the Louisville Cardinals, so Doucet uses chickens. Ha!
Nice catch…. Chickens hahahahaha
I missed that; thanks for the morning chuckle.
update added
Love everytime about this post, but Jauan had a typo…
It’s OUtstanding***: There’s Only 1!
https://twitter.com/jauan_jwill/status/689263537697480709
I’m old, clue me in to the poses on upper left…..
Don’t even waste your time… It’s called “the dab”.
Is that different than the “nae nae” ? 🙂
I think it’s one of those “things” where you find out the meaning and it only confuses you further. I haven’t even bothered to ask anybody about it, myself. Haha.
*everything*
Thanks iPhone. Can always count on you to incorrectly, correct me. :]
Oh HECK YA! Come on Jauan and join the Sooners!
Last week it was Riley visiting Jauan. Then Riley makes a return visit with Coach B. This is looking very positive.
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Don’t you need to take a hand off or a pitch or something to be considered a running back? This Jacobs kid is very exciting to watch, just saying…
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