BREAKING: Jerry Montgomery Leaving OU For The NFL
Posted on: February 10, 2015
Bob Stoops announced Tuesday afternoon that newly promoted OU co-defensive coordinator and defensive line coach, Jerry Montgomery, would be leaving Norman to accept an NFL coaching position.
Needless to say this is a seemingly devastating blow to what was believed to be a revamped coaching staff that will now have to seriously regroup after losing arguably their top recruiter and position coach.
One has to assume Stoops knew this was coming, even prior to Monday’s announcement regarding the hiring of Kerry Cooks and Dennis Simmons, but this comes as such a surprise to everyone else it is very difficult to say what direction Stoops and OU will go in terms of finding a replacement for Montgomery.
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Night. Mare.
You think stoops lets gallimore and deberry out if they want released?
He should.
Lets hope and pray it doesn’t come to that.
Wouldn’t surprise me. They both are very high on there relationship with JM
We have a secret weapon to keep them here…KISH
Deberry and Gallimore both let out tweets that they are both excited about coming to OU. whew!!!
No
No
Signed
Texass
well, I wish it was just a nightmare, unfortunately it’s true.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
I’m holding back tears.
Never mind, I’m supposed to mention how overrated he is and he hasn’t done anything lately. right?
OSOD
I was just about to post that according to 247 OU is setting well with DE’s for 2016…Nevermind with that at this point
Thats extremely, extremely bad. I mean good for him, but wow, terrible for us.
OUCH!
https://i.imgur.com/TkLPXTS.gif
Wow this is literally what I did haha
**** ****** *********** **** ******* ****
Crap….crap…..and crap…..
relax. we still have mike and kish.
Yeah, there’s always that….
Unbelievable
And I was just starting to accept the fact that Kish was still on staff.
do we know which NFL team?
rumored to be Green Bay
thanks Jordan. congrats to Jerry but that is a big void to fill. he made a huge impact is such a short amount of time
Not much question that the security is greater at Green Bay than in Norman.
Who is the current DL coach at Iowa?
/s
Recruiting pulse
Balls
This is about the worst news possible today. Wish him nothing but the best, but it will be really hard to replace him.
Yeah hope he does very well, but this is a gut punch the Tuesday before the first Jr Day
And we were coming in for a nice soft landing
So close….
Anyone know who my new least favorite NFL team is?
That was my question. Whom do I root against EVERY GAME now?
I have complete faith Stoops brings in someone that will make it look like there was never a change.
I just hope he doesn’t pull another Kish/Kittle!!!!
Hope you are right but finding a young (Montgomery 35) black defensive line coach with experience on par with Montgomery does not grow on trees. Might have to go with an older more experienced coach that has somewhat less enthusiasm. Will be tough to find someone with all the attributes of Monty.
NNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Happy for him, because the NFL only calls once. But this is possibly the worst news of the offseason so far.
It’s hard to fault a guy for taking an opportunity like that. This hurts though, no doubt.
Not good at all might lose 5-6 recruits for 2016
I wonder if Montgomery not getting to call the defense had anything to do with the departure?
Is this a possible signal that they are moving away from the 3-4?
If so, why bring in Cooks. He’s a 3-4 guy. Damn! Wish we’d have known sooner when Orgeron was available.
I guess it will have to depend on who they are bringing in to replace Monty and if Cooks now moves to co-DC.
im calling it right now…. The Co-DC promotion was just a way for OU to save face with recruits. Bob knew he was leaving and promoted him so that he could say that he had no idea Jerry Might leave. Makes sense bc everyone was wondering what Mike would be doing.
It’s possible. Either that or it was an effort to keep him around by promoting him.
Wishing Monty and his family all the best. I’m sure he’s going to do great things in the NFL.
This just spoiled my day!
SON OF A BISCUIT EATING BULLDOG!!!
Shoulda made Monty THE Defensive Coordinator and given him Mike’s $700k salary.
Only good news about this is that he’s not filling the UT DL position.
Jordan and other Braniacs…I just want to say God have mercy on y’all the next few days!
2 steps forward then…
So, who should OU go get?
Tommy Harris.
… just joking….
…. mostly
OK. First of all it’s not April 1st. I just pinched myself and I’m not in a bad dream. If i cussed I would let loose with a firestorm right now. The one obvious thing we could not afford to lose we did. FIDDLESTICKS!!!!!!!!!
Kersey just tweeted that he is headed to the Green Bay Packers… Nice upgrade.
Dang it. I liked the Packers…
Jordan — I’m having a lot of trouble navigating to TFB again. Can you fix it?
I’ll check w/ our IT guys
Thanx!
Which NFL team is he going to?
Whoops! Just saw. Packers, heh! Good job. Good luck.
That’s one way to ensure your brother maintains the position of DC without the “CO”
Deep down inside I thought he wouldn’t stick around, meaning that the doors were swinging wide open for Montgomery. But I figured OU would be able to hold onto him for a couple more years.
Stoops has his work cut out for him with all of these new coaches. If OU has a disastrous year, does Bob consider giving up the reigns? Not that I want that, but seems like a lot of work to turn the program around with a bunch of new/unproven faces. That’s a lot of stress to take on.
Who’s unproven? Cooks? Simmons? I don’t think so. They’ve been coaching for a while. Everything depends on the guy Bob brings in to coach up the DL.
So he did the big program bounce to the NFL route. Completely did not see that coming.
*Edit: not sarcasm, I’m still trying to pick my jaw up off the floor
Not gonna freak out yet but this is not good. Hope the replacement is just as good.
I wonder what his recruits are thinking now.
Bob Stoops has his work cut out for him with all of these new coaches. If OU has a disastrous year, does Bob consider giving up the reigns? Not that I want that, but seems like a lot of work to turn the program around with a bunch of new/unproven faces. That’s a lot of stress to take on.
deja vu post?..
Bob knows how to handle the stress: Just take a vacation in mid – season. You know that R & R relieves stress while cashing another paycheck.
I freaking hate offseason….sigh…well looks like I will be monitoring TFB more than originally planned….
JE…serious inquiry, does Bob give Calvin Thibodeaux a call?
Wow, good idea! Young and played the position at OU. Maybe Bob will want more experience but Calvin is hopefully an option.
Our standards should be higher than bringing in that kind of inexperience. Obviously, they’re not with Lincoln Riley and Dennis Simmons, but you’d like to think we’d hire a proven DL coach, not a newbie.
Inexperience in coaching maybe but not in playing the position. But your point is well taken.
Yeah, he’s doing a decent job with minimal talent at Tulsa. He played with attitude I like to see and would instill that on those on campus already. Not sure what type of recruiter he is though
Where is Calvin now? He was at Tulsa, right?
Yep at Tulsa
Actually just seen he was hired by KU
I prefer the cliché player drug or public intox arrest…This is just stressful
…
Well. we’re done another 8-5 coming up.
This sucks. Hard to be mad at the guy…if that’s what his goal was, and apparently it was, then good for him. As for us…this sucks. So, now on to finding a new DL coach.
Now is a great time to break out the tequila…
yep, it’s close enough to 5
This news is terrible! I’m so disappointed right now.
Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop drinking…
Looks like a great day to start drinking…
There’s always tomorrow.
“Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue…”
– Lloyd Bridges, Airplane
What’s done is done. There has to be a rising star DL coach who can really connect with recruits that is out there now. Brainiacs, any ideas?
This does hurt that it is happening kind of late in the coaching carosel.
…
…..reminds me of george carlin and hippy-dippy weatherman…………hilarious post, thxs
Brick Haley was recently demoted by Lester at LSU.. That’s about as good as anyone could ask for as a replacement..
Other names that come to mind are Chris Wilson at USC, Mike Elston at Notre Dame, Sean Spencer at Penn State, Jethro Franklin at Miami. Neither Franklin or Haley are young both in their late 40’s.
Wilson being at USC and having previously coached at OU may not be a good fit. But he could be offered co-DC to get the money where it needs to be. Previously was DC at Miss. State and DL coach at Georgia so he would have recruiting connections in the south and California.
Like others have said.. Wilson didn’t leave on good terms the first time around.. I like the other names, but really it’ll be someone with previous ties to Stoops even if there is some degree of separation.. That’s just how the coaching world works.. You hire guys you have a relationship with..
Whose coaching DL at Iowa?
http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/kiffin_chris00.html
Another young DL coach with a recruiting background.
Do you think Haley would leave the SEC for a job in a lesser conference ? probably not unless it was the HC job. Otherwise it might be professional suicide……..
Well our most recent co-dc/dl coach just got hired by the packers.. Not exactly career suicide.. & Haley was moved away from coaching duties to make room for Orgeron.. If he still wants to coach… Then it wouldn’t be a bad idea to give him a call..
You keep bringing up conference as your basis for every argument…recruiting, coaching …For the record, Monty came from the Big10. Coach B, from WVU. They were never big shots nor were they well known. I could give 2 flips whether he came from the $EC.
As long as he can coach and recruit, I don’t care if he comes from West Connecticut JC.
Speechless. #justwaitforitmyasterisk Seems like a low blow, after Bob raised him up. Thought he would at least follow through. Tough deal. Recruits got to be freakin
Can’t be mad about Monty, it’s a career move. But man, this is going to hurt recruiting in a big way. Looks like we should of made some coaching moves earlier.
I doubt anyones mad, except those certain few
I’m sure there are some recently signed recruits and their parents who aren’t at all excited about him leaving.
I bet, I was referring to OU fans. Betting Gallimore and DeBerry are like WTF?
I have to believe this was recent. Monty was all in during recruiting.
Wonder if this has anything to do with the way the staff is realigned and Mike still being around. Just wondering out loud. This REALLY STINKS for us. I’m happy for Coach Montgomery though.
Ladies and Gentlemen, This is the University of Oklahoma. As one door closes another opens. Bob Stoops has a pretty good record taking care of the program. I wish JM well, and look forward to the future.
We can only hope the Stoops brothers have a friend or family member qualified to fill the position. (-;
I swear if I see any form of this joke one more time…
Assistant coaches at Iowa are pretty excited right now.
Yeah, I’m sure there is an unemployed part time preacher out there somewhere. I’m hoping Kittle has a full time job by now.
Noooooooooooooo!
A lot of people need to take a step back and re-examen their lives. It’s a game played by a bunch of college athletes that none of you know personally. When it affects your physical and emotional well-being there is a problem with that.. Too many people base their self-worth on silly things such as a sports team when in reality everyone is worthy just for the fact of being on this planet.
LOL.
But dude… SPORTS!!
Probably could have picked a better time to give out a lecture.
People are passionate about a lot of things in their lives, who are you to tell them what those things should or shouldn’t be?
THIS IS AMERICA, D#$%^&!!
And you chose to read through a sports page to post this…Bye
*soapbox* “Blabbetty blabbetty blabbety I’m so better than all of you people blabbety blah.”
some people need to reexamine how they spell
Dynamite first (and only?) post. Riveting.
What you meant to say was that we forgot to pay our toll for the bridge? Right? Right?
I like many on this site bleed the Crimson and Cream so when we get bad news like this it upsets us but were all strong Sooner fans and I still believe things are turning around
And I thought I needed a f’ing hug…. You just made me feel better myself….troll be damned, you’re alright.
I’d like to see Chris Wilson. Former player, current D-line coach and apparently a good recruiter.
Didn’t leave on the best of terms if memory serves. Doesn’t mean he’d be an impossibility, but I’d be kind of surprised if that was the way Stoops chooses to go.
I didn’t realize that. Doh! Stoops will probably go with a more tenured guy, but I can dream.
Ron Stoops?
Evelyn Stoops!
Yeah, Wilson burned his bridges at OU. Besides, I think we can find a better recruiter and coach than Wilson.
I thought Bob said He had more than enough money to do what he wanted. Bam and there it is, so we have to be in for a great surprise as to whom will replace JM:-( Best of luck to you JM, this what happens when your as good as you are Jerry. So who are some really good coaches that would be a great hire? I personally would like to have someone from the NFL that loves kid’s and football. Someone that would prepare our linemen for the NFL. WoW what a shock, lost my breath for a min as I wipe my tear’s. Thus is going to good, I get that feeling. Someone wants to coach at OU I promise you.
Kish for Co-DC!!!! (i threw up a little in my mouth when i typed that)
Are you trying to cause a riot? Cause that’s how you cause a riot.
BAN USER.
This is simply more fallout from bob keeping his brother around. If he makes JM DC by himself wonder if he’s still gone.
If he wanted to go to the NFL, then it wouldn’t have mattered. That’s what I’m going to choose to believe, because the other would make me too mad.
If his dream is to go to a great NFL franchise, is he gonna pass that up because he gets a promotion to DC at OU or another change is made on the coaching staff, or anything else?! No chance. And if he wasn’t dreaming of going to the NFL, he wouldn’t go. It’s a big career move that some guys are dying to do and some aren’t. imho… It’s pretty straightforward.
yeah… if I had to pick one or the other….
“Let me answer this one for Chris”!! NO
I bet monty was getting sick of carrying a lot of the dead weight (cough mike, kish cough) out on the recruiting trail. Every time I got on twitter he was flying somewhere. Mike was dicking off at bakers st.
Randy Shannon
I likeee!
Didn’t he just get picked up by someone?
Yeah, I wish I could remember, but yeah….
Florida (Co-DC, LB, Assoc. Head Coach)
He can change his mind…just saying…we don’t have to look only to guys that are out of the job…and I’d actually prefer that we didn’t…just sell a guy what your trying to do and give him the money
Wouldn’t be a bad choice.
You have to go all out for his replacement right? You can’t lose a star like JM and then hire a run of the mill type of name.
Remember what JM was before coming here…a rising star..not necessarily “going all out”…Bob just needs to work some magic and find a DL coach that is knowledgeable with the 34 we are trying to push
I’m fine with a rising star if he’s proven, much like JM was.
Apparently Jackie Shipp has been named the new DL coach. Bob Stoops Quote: “The second times a charm”
Uh… Kidding right?
Need to go steal an “up & commer” who can recruit at best 50% of JM’s level.
If that’s possible?
Some joker said we should hire Blake earlier and he was serious! UGH!
I read that, but didn’t think he was serious. I mean, how could he be. Right!?!
Ok that was funny for a few seconds anyway
I don’t like using acronyms… but WTF
We’ll just find the next man…might be a blow in recruiting early but this is actually the best timing…just signed the last class so we won’t lose anyone…it might hurt spring verbals there’s still pretty much a year until the next signing day though…I suspect we will get a guy in here fairly quickly with spring ball around the corner…hopefully a guy from Iowa…I kid I kid
yeah. i was thinking if we can hang on to his guys from this class, it is perfect timing if it was going to happen
I don’t think it’ll be a problem hanging on to the recruits. None can leave for at least a year anyway, and I suspect Stoops can overcome any concerns they have.
i’m sure he can too, but ain’t there loopholes or whatnot for kids to get let out or to take off? may not be but i don’t know for certain
None, unless it’s the head coach that leaves. Look at Duvante Lampkin, and his ordeal with Texas. He is stuck there for a year too. It’s not really fair for the kids, but since it’s OU, I don’t feel as bad. 🙂 In all seriousness though, I think we’ll be okay.
JD’s right though, depending on how quickly OU acts and who they bring in, it could effect some early verbals.
well then it is perfect timing for something like this. thanks for the info. guess i’ll stick around for amateur hour at the apollo 🙂
yeah I wasn’t talking about his 15 guys..that would have been the worst if he left before signing day…I think most programs have an unwritten rule about taking guys before signing day….it just so happens the ones we brought in were leaked and not official…I was talking about the 16 class…this was the actual best time for this move imo
The guys nobody wants, we can’t get rid of. Guys that we love, we can’t keep. This is ou football : /
I was just about to post this exact same thing.
jinx.
Me 2. THIS STINKS ! Please get rid of Mike and Kish.
At least we don’t love the guys we can’t get rid of… Then we’d be screwed.
bob doesn’t mind them.
Jackie Shipp may want to come back to Oklahoma…………..
LOL!
Well I hope they don’t drag their feet in offering who they want. Currently here are the schools looking for D-line coaches.or DC.
Bowling Green: Defensive coordinator, one other defensive position
Buffalo: Defensive line
Central Michigan: defensive coordinator
Hawaii: Defensive coordinator
Illinois: Defensive line
Louisiana-Lafayette: Defensive line
Miami (FL): Defensive line
TCU: Defensive coordinator
Texas: defensive line
UCLA: Defensive coordinator
Those last four…
Bruce Kittle?
I’m sorry…I actually just hit the down vote..I don’t even know what that does!
Actually, a 30 year dead BRUCE Lee would be more help.
Sucks!
Boom?
Bummer!
Definitely Bummer Sooner today.
Man I can’t even begin to even think about his replacement. I’m still in shock. Kind of sounds stupid, but I feel like someone I know real well just passed away. I’m sure Bob did everything he could to get him to stay…….
I think you feel the way most of us do. That’s why we’re here…we’re all in shock.
SO with your inside info you guys didn’t know anything about this either?
I don’t have any inside info. I’m just a regular joe.
First Green Bay takes Olivia Munn from us and now THIS….
I liked this comment on two counts…
One she’s a sooner.
Two I’m a Packer fan.
GO PACK!
Sorta…
With this being said… Is there ANYONE, currently worth fitting the bill?
This is a positive move for Monty…lets not try and make it negative by thinking he left because of Mike and Kish…that’s just elementary
Hey! Why so down?!? Just remember Kish is still here and turn that frown upside down!
HATE HATE HATE
This board is not above tar and feathering posters yanno
My thinking exactly – we still have Mike and Kish. ):
chill out guys, Stoops can move Kish to ILB’s and DL….J/K….EVERYONE FREAK OUT!!!! NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY??????
that being said, hopefully Stoops has a plan to get another big time guy in here. I think he saw how critical Montgomery was, must get at least that out of the next guy and he knows that. BOOMER SOONER
You have to be like the 43rd person to make that joke.
42nd, . . . but who’s counting?
Not surprised, I just think like everyone else 🙂
Well, that isn’t what I expected to see when I loaded the page.
We’ll be fine, but… what a waste of recruiting skills that is.
Wow. Not cool. But good luck to Monty
Well crap
Well this just takes the Boom out of Boomer for a little while, what a kick in the sack. I just hope all the kids that he brought in are still willing to go hard for whoever replaces him.
It certainly put the Boom into the board aye…gives something to “worry” about for the next few weeks..then Bam spring ball…the message board gods are good to us!
Hopefully Bob uses the same criteria when selecting his next DL coach..meanwhile BJW just canceled a tee time to help with spring ball lol
Trying to remain positive … and failing.
Wow. The suck factor for this one is just about beyond calculation. After all the work he was putting in to recruiting, what was so great about the offer or so terrible about his current job that he just ups and leaves that quickly?
i’m sure if the nfl comes calling, 99% of guys are leaving
If you’re dream is to coach in the NFL and you’re spending your career building a resume for that, what would you do if an NFL team came calling? Then just suppose it was a great team? Some guys view that as the dream job.
I never before realized Monty had that ambition. Honestly, I’m personally so over the NFL that I have a hard time understanding the infatuation with it anymore. But congrats to him nonetheless.
As far as I’m concerned, Bob has made 3 home run hires this offseason. I have full confidence he can make it 4.
I respect your optimism.
Me too, but how the heck do you replace a Jerry Montgomery?
You dont. All you can do is get the best thats out there. Hopefully that will be the case.
I have faith cause of the volume and talent Jerry got in the past 2 years bad thing is this is happening late but have a little faith we will be fine I hope
I think that remains to be seen whether these new hires are home runs.
Problem is he left two guys on staff that simply shouldn’t be.
K, keep quiet with all that…you’ll be crucified…LOL?
This.
Also true… Unfortunately.
Can Jim Leavitt coach DLine?
I think Leavitt can coach any position on defense
Can I get a witness from the congregation? AMEN, Brother!
Exactly why you don’t hire family….or loan them money and expect to be laid back.
wait…you lend money to family and expect to get laid in return? 🙂
Oh boy, how do I explain this one?
Hahaha!!, you can’t. Spectacular typo if you ask me.
You can take a guy outta Arkansas, but…….
People in Arkansas have spelling issues too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-0na1sY8bc#t=51
NSFW!
YEP!
But he’s still been making the staff overall better
That is debatable. You may or may not be right, but it’s certainly not as black and white as you made it.
Not shocked because of how he’s blown up over the past year. Best of luck to him with Packers. It will be extremely interesting to see how this plays out. Bob will get a solid replacement in here. We’ll be fine.
wouldn’t surprise me if Montgomery didn’t work out for some reason in GB and return to college as….DC at Michigan……this may have been an ‘end run’ by Harbaugh to get the guy away from OU without a tampering lawsuit by the institution……..
I think being the co-DC at OU trumps Michigan by far.
Neville Gallimore
https://twitter.com/Path2Greatwork/status/565280483282812929
Me either
haha, no doubt!
I’m expecting that 90% of this recruiting class is “somewhat” disappointed.
amd 110% of the posters on this board
Except the occasional bridge troll
I’m calling you out Jordan. I have no choice but to send rainbows and kittens. It’s always darkest before the dawn.
Well, he just found out, I’m sure from Jerry but he isn’t going to go anywhere. I would suspect you might be reading into this along those lines. Jordan, I really like your comments but don’t be to depressed, we’ll be alright in the end.
I posted a tweet from the kid, that’s all. Didn’t make any comment on it whatsoever, simply included his name since it wasn’t in his Twitter handle. How exactly am I reading into anything?
Jordan, why so defensive? I certainly did not accuse you of misrepresenting anyone/thing. I said he just found out and his tweet can be read in numerous ways by different people. I will not bother you again Jordan, sorry to have upset you.
You didn’t upset me, but you literally said (or typed as it were) that I was probably reading to much into things.
I was simply trying to clarify that I hadn’t actually read into anything. If it came across in any other way (as it appears to have), then my bad.
I just hope Bob gets someone in here quick ( Thibedoux has been mentioned and a good choice IMO ) and that person immediately calls Montys recruits ( Gallimore, Debester etc ) and re-recruits them and shows them some love. I know they’re already committed but just want to let those kids know that they still made a great decision to come to OU and be happy about it.
Hearing that this move may have been finalized late last week. Jerry’s last tweet he wrote (that I can see) was 6 days ago…some of us should have picked up on this, we need to do a better job. /sarc
But…but…but he didn’t just start following a bunch of Green Bay accounts on Twitter so how could we possibly have known??????
Just saying, Twitter stalking is the future. Embrace it now or be left behind. 🙂
After this, I think I hate the packers
…even more.
wait wait wait… I’m behind… Are you saying he went to the Packers?
Yes.
Oh $%*&… I’m a packers fan. But I’m still sad. Crap.
Me too. I’m saddened and happy all at the same time.
Ya I guess you and I have a reason to be positive. But CRAP! Hard to get over this one, even with being on the winning end of things.
Anyone think we could get this guy if he retains the DC title?
http://www.gofrogs.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/bumpas_dick00.html
I’m guessing no
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12282098/tcu-horned-frogs-defensive-coordinator-dick-bumpas-retiring
Well hell… bad timing on his part 😉
How about Bob Shoop?
Somehow me thinks there could be a little bit of animosity amongst the coaches. Maybe some thought that Mike and Tim were both gone or that Tim was gone and then all of a sudden he stays. There could be a million reasons on why but the only one is that he will be learning from some of the best coaches in the league. Not a bad move for him but sucks for us. The Pack got a really good one.
Mike farted in Monty’s office, it was the nail in the coffin.
Dang. Didn’t see that coming.
I will say that I think it’s a stretch to call him our bet position coach. Maybe, maybe not. Certainly one of our top recruiters, but we’ve heard a lot of chatter about our Dline guys not having great technique, and quite honestly, I was a little disappointed in their play this year at times.
Still a big time loss though.
Hard to say how good of an actual coach he’s been but if the Packers want him they must have seen something good. They’re not hiring him for his recruiting prowess
I’m a huge packers fan and this sucks a$$. It’s like your girlfriend leaving you for your dad.
Not a Packers fan at all. It’s even worse he went to them. Ugh!!!!
Bears fan?
That would suck and I’d hate my dad for it
https://twitter.com/bigj8080/status/565282561883406337
At least we can pitch incoming coaches the same way we do recruits by selling them on the idea we will prepare/send them to the NFL. Trying to find the bright side of a gloomy day ;(
Can we go steal the guy from Missouri now?
Any 3-4 experience?
Here are some DL coaches that peak my interest. None of these guys have Iowa ties, but I believe they would fit in well at OU. Great coaches as well.
Miami University(FL) DL coach-http://www.hurricanesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=658369&SPID=103763&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=28700&ATCLID=205558509&Q_SEASON=2014
Clemson Co-DC/DL coach Marion Hobby- http://www.clemsontigers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205529432
Michigan State DL coach-http://www.msuspartans.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/020813aab.html
Missouri DL coach Craig Kuligowski- http://www.mutigers.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/craig_kuligowski_199272.html
I really liked your Iowa mention. Made me chuckle.
lol, I literally just asked this question
quick ain’t they?
Don’t you think we’d go after a true Co-DC since Mike is in need of some serious help? I don’t think it’s too late to rob Leavitt from CU
We better go after a 34 line coach
Craig Kuligowski piqued my interest.
You got to love a coach with the name Jethro.
Any of those guys have 3-4 experience?
It’s gotta be someone that Bob knows or has a connection with, doesn’t have to be Iowa. But there will be a connection to Bob in some way..
it’s probably already been asked on here but who are some coaches you think Stoops is/should consider?
Well, there goes our best recruiter…not good news especially since we are stuck with Kish & Mike on D. I wonder if Clancy Pendergast would be willing to give up that new LB coaching gig with SF49ers and come join OU…or maybe we could get Leavitt to leave his new job at Colorado and come be our Co-DC
Wonder if Joe has a short list of coaches for 2016?
Since Bob Stoops knows must know another season like the last would put him squarely on the hot seat, he can’t be very thrilled with this development.
To all the Kish defenders who have been counting on Monty to bail him out on the recruiting trail: what’s your plan now?
There isn’t a plan because your living a myth and I was never counting on Monty to bail him out…on the contrary, all of the Kish haters were counting on Monty to bail him out..line play and backer play was pretty much even last year
This. Probably burned Coach Montgomery out. And he didn’t want to carry the entire load this recruiting season. Can’t blame him if this is the case.
Kish to Co-DC!
How about making him head coach?
And that folks…Is football….
Just about the time I was getting my Sooner mojo back.
Way too early for April fools jokes guys
Without JM were looking a lot like Texas Tech.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/overreaction
I’m fine with taking tech coaches on the O side..on the D side, not so much
Any chance we cut loose any 2015 recruits that want to leave?
Hey guys, the Tim Kish to DC jokes aren’t funny. Just as they weren’t the first hundred times…
Today on TFB.
Poster 1: Basketball
Responders: Fire Tim Kish!
Poster 2: Softball
Responders: Fire Tim Kish!
Poster 3: Pizza
Responders: Fire Tim Kish!
Wait…..you guys had pizza??
Sorry that’s on the VIP board.
Everyone knows VIP is a myth…*wink, wink*
It is for some.
Are you guys talking about Vanilla Ice?
Great toats. Now i have that damn song in my head…ice ice baby
Aaaannnd you’re welcome.
I just couldn’t help but laugh at that one…word to your mother, hemi
Them sums of beeches ate pizza without us.
I’m partial to them. Always good for a reaction.
http://armstrongeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Dead-Horse.jpg
The floggings will continue until Kish is gone…
True
I don’t know…the Kish jokes still bring a smile to my face. He’s the gift that keeps on giving.
Many people on here have wished that we would hire younger more up and coming coaches. Well this is the down side of that. Up and coming coaches move up and I think most would view a move to the NFL as up. The good news is that Bob actually is hiring those kind of coaches which are the kind he won a NC with. So while this particular loss is not good, it does represent a trend in the right direction. Let’s wait and see who he replaces Monty with before we panic.
Well said.
I’m sure its all a conspiracy. They are out to get us. Let us have hope only to crush us in the most cruel fashion. It has to be true. Because I typed a comment on the internet.
Hey, you are not paranoid if they really are out to get you.
And they really are! Just listen to the fillings in my teeth!
You realize that fillings work both ways, they can hear you too!
Dammit, Bob! First Monty, now this? It wouldn’t be so bad, but I just got finished singing the entire soundtrack to Glee in my shower! I THOUGHT I WAS ALONE!!!
Try this Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie, it will help:
http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
Perfect! No more govt. gettin’ my music for free!
“I always feel like somebody’s watching me and I don’t feel safe anymore”
Sound advice. Panic attack will be officially postponed until further notice
Don’t let him out of his contract. Hold him ransom.
I’m sure the Packers have more than enough money to buy it out.
Not for sale
Rumors that Kish was going to be let go, but then the Montgomery news came and Stoops elected against letting Kish go. For that reason alone, I am mad at Monty leaving.
first I’ve heard of those rumors..sound like more of the wishful thinking by some…Kish was always coming back next year
what is the correlation between the two?
So basically he’s leaving OU where he was THE DL coach and co-DC to be an assistant DL coach for GB? Anyone else think this makes no sense?
Some people see any move into the league as a move up.
Don’t know the $ yet, and there is always the NFL > College opinion.
Was thinking the same thing
Well, he won’t have to spend weeks or months on the road trying to convince 17 and 18 year old’s where to go to school.
Katie Perry might have texted TK to relay the GB job offer the GB cheerleaders told her about during SB 1/2 time rehearsals, all an elaborate plot. Putin and the Russian oligarchs might be involved. I heard George Soros bought the City of Green Bay in order to get tickets as part of the financing deal. It’s very complicated.
The DL coach at Green Bay played at Michigan and is close with Monty.
It’s not unlike HS head coaches leaving their jobs to be college recruiting directors or asst coaches. Moving up to the next level and getting an opportunity there is the most important thing to some people.
i’m curious to what you think happens when you take a job at a higher level. you won’t see many guys go from assistant to the assistant in the nbdl to head coach in the nba. he was the co-dc for 16 minutes and most guys don’t go straight into the nfl as head coaches or coordinators. those are the only ones you hear about but i would bet its around 5-10% of the actual move up hires. usually if the nfl comes calling, you go. you may not get the opportunity again
Yes indeed.
gotta pay those dues
My problem with it is leaving a place where you were THE guy and going somewhere to be a guy. I’m currently completing my education to become a teacher and coach football and honestly I don’t ever want to go to the NFL. I’d rather coach HS or college where at least half the kids play because they love the game. I wouldn’t want to coach 30 yr old, spoiled children in the NFL. Also leaving when you supposedly loved the kids you just brought in to OU is just low. Shows he really didn’t give a s*** about them.
Plus I’m hearing on some sources that the staff may have not even known he was talking to NFL teams. If that’s true then he’s a coward too.
Your thinking is pretty messed up, IMO
Your entitled to your opinion as am I. Lol
You are correct
Are you Tony Jefferson?
ouch. i hadn’t heard that
i completely understand that viewpoint. i would not want to coach in the minor leagues because of those prima donnas. i’ve done the travel, so minor leagues doesn’t appeal to me nor college with the recruiting and road trips. h.s. does since you’re stuck with who you got and don’t go on many far trips. so for me it would be big leagues or h.s.
i would think that it will tear him up to leave these kids, but if for him the nfl is his end all be all then its his first shot and could be the only one, so its hard for me to not root for him to go after it
and congrats on the almost done part. that’s cool. good luck on the job front and enjoy it. love hearing stories when kids are coached up by a “2nd dad”
“Also leaving when you supposedly loved the kids you just brought in to OU is just low. Shows he really didn’t give a s*** about them.”
I disagree with this. His lifelong dream was to probably get to the league as coach.. Gotta start somewhere, and with packers nonetheless.. good place to start.
i disagree with this. screw the packers. bear down 🙂
lol. I’m not a fan of either, but my neighbors are in there 70-80’s and she is packers, and he is bears! its funny sometimes.
I think you are speaking emotionally and not logically. Your ambitions are not going to be the same as those of other people. It’s probably time you get used to that fact.
I disagree. There’s nothing low about leaving for a better job. 99% of the population would take a better job if it’s offered to them regardless of their profession. Being a DL coach or LB coach or wherever they use him in the NFL is more prestigious than being a college DL coach and CO-DC in name only who doesn’t even call plays.
Yes. It’s an NFL job, and not just an NFL job, but an NFL job with a Super Bowl contender.
Eff the world. I’m going back to bed.
I’m leaving for another basketball game…..clear my mind for a couple hours.
Got room for one more?
Tournament’s at Owasso HS….see you there.
On my way!
make it two
Well, like everyone I was shocked at this news. Happy for Monty that he’s able to fulfill lifelong dream. After getting over the shock I’m sure Bob has been in the loop on this and will have a new hire very soon. As far as recruits, this should no effect. Wouldn’t surprize me if Monty contacts his guys and reassures them. I’m excited to see who Bob hires.
Yeah, leaving for the NFL should not have as much an effect on recruiting as leaving for another school. Hey we all liked it when Monty recruited guys he first recruited at Michigan. We are still losing a great recruiter though.
It’s been said that NO player is bigger than the Sooner program.
News Flash!…
That goes for a coach too!
Bob knows this hire is critical.
$
You are right. Everyone is replaceable. I think many of us worry that Bob will follow an old pattern of replacing a great coach/recruiter with an Iowa buddy who doesn’t know a turd from shinola…
Since the Kish to DC jokes are no longer funny to some……
The pope, Michael Jackson and Kish walk into a bar…..Stop me if you’ve heard this one.
Just commenting to some friends yesterday that the Pope sure does seem to turn up in way too many “poor judgement” situations with folks he should never be hangin’ out with. And now this…:-)
Maybe Monty got burned out on recruiting. He was all over and recruited so many kids. He even had to have a passport this year to recruit so I understand him wanting to sit still and take a NFL job.
Possibly he was recruiting for 2 people
I think he just likes cheese that much.
So now we will go get a another young DL coach (hopefully that knows the 3-4) that can relate to the players (cause no other coaches can). And maybe he will be here longer than the 10+ years Monty was. I mean 2 years he was here.
Don’t you think we need a DL coach that’s also the CoDC? Leaving the D entirely to Mike again kinda scares me.
Cooks could do it.
Be co dc.
Isnt cooks qualified to be Co-DC?
Holy crap…what if Stoops knew all along..?
Wouldnt put it past em..
very possible huh?
It’s certainly starting to sound like it is.
So then, who are some of the hotter commodities out there as DL Coach?
Hoping you’re right- something needs to be done quickly
I thought I remember a rumor about Cooks contract at ND that said he couldnt move for a strictly lateral move, which means he would have to be promoted somehow.. Many of us speculated maybe that means mike is still on move, but maybe it was about replacing Monty the whole time. Making Monty co-DC for five weeks, could have literally been just about securing up our recruiting until NSD.
Elementary my dear Watson, nice reasoning there.
This is just a Knightmare end to a season. /pun
Maybe, probably need a co coordinator but would still like to have a 3-4 guy for the DL.
Wow! a bit surprised at this one. How about we bring back John Blake to recruit and coach D-line and put Cooks at db’s and Co-DC.? anyone?
JR announces the tables and chairs match between shipp and blake. the winner gets to announce who will be the new dline coach cause nobody wants their poison back here
I hope you are joking about Blake.
If you are serious, not only no but HELL NO. One, we don’t need a cheater who was a HIGHLY overrated recruiter in his time at OU and never put together a class as good as Bob’s worst class. Two, he’s not a very good coach either. The idea is FORWARD PROGRESS, not taking steps backward. John Blake and Joe Dickinson need to remain in the rearview mirror where they belong.
Blake can be called a lot of things but an overrated recruiter isn’t one of them.
How many top 10 recruiting classes did Blake have at OU?
Answer: NONE
He WAS overrated as a recruiter.
Blake did get one 5 star recruit in his time here…Rocky Bright. He sure turned out to be a superstar!!!
Yes, and he came IN SPITE OF BLAKE & because he loved OU
Yeah, that’s why we won so many games under his reign…that boatload of talent he left behind. He couldn’t even bring in one halfway decent QB. His best QB was a walk on for crying out loud. Jason White was headed to Tennessee and didn’t even consider OU until Bob Stoops was hired.
There were some good players that came to OU during his time, but most of those would have come to OU if Frankenstein had been our coach (e.g., Trent Smith, Seth Lettrell, Rocky Calmus, and Frank Romero, whose mother worked for OU!).
Two different things. He was no where near ready to be a head coach. Bob won a national championship with a lot of his recruits.
Bob won the NC with more of his own recruits, Heupel and Q Griffin in particular.
LMAO, okay you win champ.
Amazing how Bob comes in and gets QBs right away when Blake couldn’t get 1 in 3 years…unless you count that megastar Gary Don Moore of Celina, TX.
Regardless of their argument of Blake at OU, Blake has like 5 guys in the NFL that are great players. Dude could find talent.
Calamus came IN SPITE OF BLAKE–very well known. He loved OU. Williams fell in his lap. He didn’t out-recruit anyone for Williams. Nobody was wanting to take a chance on him b/c of serious knee injuries. Take those guys off list of “Blake could find talent”
Please let me know who Calamus is?
Also, you’re speculating. No, actually you’re flat out making up stories. But, sincr I was also referring to UNC, he found and coached up some big time stars, who are tearing it up in the NFL.
But back to making up stories… I’m sure someone will listen.
I beg to differ. I know I am in the minority. When Switzer was at OU, OU signed 10-12 of the top dozen players in Okla, and about 10 of top 100 out of TX. I followed recruiting closely back then and noticed that we were only getting 2-3 of top dozen in OK and 2-3 of top 100 out of TX. Some came IN SPITE OF BLAKE when they came, and some he lucked out on (they wouldn’t have if it hadn’t been for injuries, etc–Williams). I know I won’t change anyone’s mind, but he was a terrible recruiter as HC, good under Switzer–but Switzer had something to do with that. He cheated everywhere else he went to “show” he was a good recruiter. Anyway, put me on the side of “HIGHLY” overrated recruiter. On top of this, he was the worst HC ever in division 1 history. My family knew the guy closely (eat, sleep, in each other’s homes all the time), through college and afterwards, and the guy was the least smart person I think we had ever been around. Sorry, Switzer was mad at us at the time and I believe he did that to us purposely; he was riding high at Dallas at time. But, I don’t believe we’d have gotten BS if it hadn’t been for Blake, so something good came out of it all.
Did you forget that Blake was an assistant at OU BEFORE becoming HC? He brought in a helluva lot of talent as DL coach. As far as I’m concerned Switzer lobbied for him when he shouldn’t have. The guy was never more than a position coach in college or pro and failed miserably.
I was joking. But as far as I was aware, he was a pretty good Dline coach, and pretty good recruiter. Just a bad HC.. He got some guys to come here that were ballers, at arguably our roughest patch ever.. He just couldnt lead a whole team.
He was a good recruiter under Switzer as DL coach. But, remember, anyone would have recruited pretty well under Switzer as DL coach. I could have recruited well as DL coach under Switzer
Nevermind…I had actually commented on this before I realized that it was starting to get a little heated at the end…I’ll decline
How about BV? More money?
What if we throw the money at LSU’s current DL coach, otherwise known as Ed Orgeron.
If someone had told me after the bowl game that the only member of the defensive coaching staff that wouldn’t be on staff next year would be Monty I would have told them they were completely insane.
And BJW.
True. Forgot about BJW
Truth is stranger than fiction
I had tricked myself into believing that Monty could have stuck around long enough to get a HC position…
That had crossed my mind as a future possibility.
Wonder if this has anything to do with the long delay in announcing the other coaching changes?
Well at least we still have Kish to reel in blue chippers…….
Wow…didn’t see this coming. If his career plan was to move to the NFL, then I wish him the best of luck. However, if this was a move to get out of town because of the direction the program is going, then this might be the beginning of the end of the Stoops era at OU.
Direction the program was going? They just got a good group of players, a new OC and other good recruiting hires. There is no way you can say the program is on a down turn after just one bad season.
Just an observation. Truth is, neither of us will know if things were heading south for a few more years. Believe me when I say, I hope you are right. The OU football scene just feels different the last few years–and not in a good way.
i knew he or his wife would get tired of all those days and nights on the road recruiting. i cant say that i would blame him to jump to the NFL and forget about recruiting.
Wow…. We could have gone after Ed Orgeron a month ago if this would have gone down earlier. Damn.
Orgeron can recruit as well as anyone. We missed an opportunity not hiring him to replace Kish, too bad we can’t get him as our new DL coach.
https://twitter.com/tonyjefferson1/status/565303602676527107
I get the impression that Tony doesn’t think much of Mike Stoops.
Maybe it was well known that Monty wanted to get into the league?
Come on, Tony. It’s you’re not your.
As an OU Grad I must say that part does disappoint me.. lol
Cut him some slack. He left school a year early.
LOL
Well, that sucks….for us. Good for Monty, but bad for us. Best of luck to Coach Monty and his family in the League.
This might be the most challenging year during BS illustrious coaching career. It’s stressful trying to hire an employee to replace one that has had such an impactful influence on a program. Not to mention hiring a new OC to bring in a new offense, a new receivers and defensive backs coach. All coming off your worst season as a head coach in long time. You finally think you have things heading in the right direction and then another wheel falls off.
OU should hire Monte Kiffin, he just left Dallas. He’s young and can totally connect with recruits
Young? lol
74 is the new 30 or something to that effect …
Oh yea, lots of youth there! haha
i’d like to punch his son right in the mouth
Tell us how you really feel… I’m getting that he’s probably your second favorite person in the entire world
haha. who’s first?
I’m gonna go ahead and apologize now…
haha.
haha. what a dick! i’m talking to you toats. i can’t stand this guy, but his “40” speech will make me have just a hint…a tiny little, intsy wintsy speck of respect. i would love to see cale punch him in the mouth back in the day tho 🙂
LOL! No respect for Mr. McGoats though? LOL!
Just wrong!
He so old…they had to start the counter over..lol
crap
Oh lord…. there’s a strange sinking feeling in my stomach…
Let it out man, let it out. Gas can cause awful pain if left in there!
Clint Hurtt??? Previously DL coach & recruiting coordinator for both Miami & Louisville.. Currently LB coach for the Chicago Bears… What if we throw Co-DC, Recruiting coordinator & DL at him.. maybe, possibly?
Cale is the recruiting coordinator…I don’t see that changing
I may have missed it, but what are the 2015 recruits (esp. all of those specifically recruited by JM) saying about the abrupt announcement? More Lampkin-like betrayal?
Not sure, but its certainly ironic, considering many here, including myself, were smitten with the idea of letting a kid out of NLI if “his” coach leaves. lol not so much now!
Not sure if someone posted this but….for what its worth
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheFranchize__/status/565006901755523072?p=v
Yikes. I hope this doesn’t get ugly.
yeah I didnt really like the looks of that
Nope. Roquan Smith has become a trend setter for this type of stuff. DeBerry could still get out of his NLI, Bob would allow that if thats what happens.
You think? I’m not sure Bob would allow it.. And who is this Roquan Smith? did he get out of a NLI recently? havent heard of him.
He committed to UCLA on NSD. Their D-line coach left the same day. He has re opened his recruitment, yet to pick a school. There is no deadline except the start of classes, technically. An NLI must be signed by April 1st, but NLI’s aren’t necessary for a player to get onto the team.
did he signsend the NLI when he committed on signing day or just commit..there’s a dif and I think he’d have to sit a year and possibly two if in conference
NO he couldn’t.
Yes, he could.
Coaches leaving are not grounds from being released from the NLI.
Coaches/schools can release a kid from an NLI at their convenience.
Someone posted on another thread here a few days ago, quoting the NCAA bylaws that said once a NLI is signed, the player can leave but it is considered a transfer and they would have to sit a year. It surprised me too, cuz I was thinking like you, that a coach could just release kid if he wasnt enrolled yet, but apparently, that in not correct.
Here it is, I found it. It was a post from Soonermusic over last weekend and the lampking thing…
“If a student-athlete signs an NLI with one school but opts to attend a different school in the NLI program, he or she will lose one full year of eligibility and must sit out of competition at his or her new school for a full academic year. There is no penalty if the student-athlete chooses to attend a school that is not in the NLI program.”
So there are consequences, but kids can transfer.
Transfer yes, but thats different then being released from NLI and free to go wherever. Basically, once a kid signs on the line, and sends it in, he is part of the program even if not enrolled yet, and would have to actually file for transfer, not just be released. I was wrong about this too though, as I was thinking exactly like you before I read that the other day..
True. I read your post as saying a kid could get out of his NLI if coaches leave.
New language in the LOI this year emphasizing you are signing with school not coach
doesnt look good, but the kid has to sort out his feelings. They are just now figuring out they are part of a huge, huge, BUSINESS. And one where everyone is trying to move up!
How do we know this is related to Monty leaving, it was posted yesterday. I guess it’s possible Monty called him but it’s also possible it’s unrelated all together.
totally possible. I just posted it because it could be relevant
If related, who could blame him? Hopefully the timeline isn’t such that it comes out that Monty, Bob et al knew and did a texass.
That’s gonna leave a mark.
Damn you Katy Perry!
Wonder….if he was promised DC and Mike didn’t end up leaving. Blood is thicker than water.
Or maybe coaching for the packers means more to him than coaching for OU.
Both speculative possibilities.
I think yours is a little more speculative. Considering that the official word from JM himself is that coaching in the NFL is his dream.
Thanks for pointing that out.
I think your reaching lol
We need to try and retain this guy!
Holy Sh!t. Devastating is not even the word.
This really sucks but remember it was OU’s prestige that allowed Monty to flourish. He was part of the new wave of coaches not a drinking buddy, ex teammate, or family. There’s no reason the next hire can’t experience great success also.
No way Stoops knew or wouldn’t have promoted him in the mean time.
Who is out there…that hasn’t found a coaching gig that is worth getting.
Replacement name available? Hopefully, Bob was not blindsided.. How about Chris Kiffin? http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/kiffin_chris00.html
Any idea if this will actually happen? This wouldn’t be a home run it would be a grand slam if it could happen.
Do they rub a 3-4? I can’t remember.
Happy for Monty if this is what he wants but really feel for the kids that have come to really trust and believe in him. Can’t believe he would like it better in the nfl than with these young men. $$$
The least Jerry could do is give each of his recruits and players a hand-written 1000-word sonnet about life’s vicissitudes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSWiMoO8zNE
Interesting day. I was almost killed today, and then I hear JM is leaving for the Packers. I’m not sure which of these bothers me more.
Wow dude I hope you can have a relaxing evening.
Lol…I wish…I work the evening shift and this is when the criminals come out to play.
I was being facetious about the death vs. losing Monty comment however. I’m much more relieved that truck that ran through the stop sign while I was jogging on Main Street in Norman didn’t run over me.
If that guy happens to read this board, I apologize for calling you a “f’ing idiot” today…but can you blame me when you were about 0.5 inches from taking my life because you were looking at the passenger seat while your car was going forward? I apologize nonetheless. I don’t normally lose my cool like I did today.
Hang in there JB. Grab a cold one and let’s find a replacement for Coach Monty.
Glad your ok & …. BOOMER!
now THAT sounds like a good plan! I’m in!
SOONER!!!
Good deal.
Bigger man than I, sir! I would have taken at least a couple of days to apologize…wait, who am I kidding? I wouldn’t have!
Geeze…glad you’re okay.
Thank you, brother
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSWj-A7qKBA
Good stuff!
Listen, we still have Mikey and Timmy plus Bob is a defensive genius. Remember, he was DC at Florida, an sec school only 16 years ago. We will be fine.
Ugh…
Yup.
Not the place to mention it but I’m still having problems navigating to TFB.
Either PRK or Bloodycastorstoolboy hacked the site.
Totally sucks. Well he won’t have to work as hard recruiting and such. Wow, Bob needs to get the best guy, one who is on ESPN’s top 20 recruiters list. This hurts. Boren better not limit the pocket book.
Limiting the pocket book shouldnt be a problem. He has plenty to spend for a good DL coach because he’ll be saving a bunch from Montys DL + DC salary.
Nah. May have to open that pocketbook even wider and bring in a guy as DL/Co-DC. We CANNOT, repeating, CANNOT leave the defense totally in Mike’s hands, again. Monty to CoDC was the best move of the off-season other than taking DBs away from Mikey.
Wow. Shock. That said, our program is bigger than any coach, ace recruiter or not. Chances are this happened quickly and I’m sure JM did the right thing and called all his kids in advance. Wish him the best. Excited for the next young gun we get (or old if he is hip). Recruits may not always value our brand but coaches do. Bad timing but I’m guessing we’ll have our choice of folks to choose from.
Narrowing it down, but how likely would it be that the new DL hire will likely have some thread of a connection to Iowa or KState in their background. Who fits?
if it’s an offensive search you add tech too lol
Well…. Dang. The sun will still rise in the east and I’m sure a DL coach will be named before spring ball. The next up and coming young coach is drooling over the chances of landing this job. Monty was a great recruiter, relentless and quite the salesman so that will be a huge void that needs to be filled.
Anyway we lure someone from NFL?
Heard Monte Kiffin and Dallas parted ways. Maybe he will come here. rolls eyes for dramatic effect.
I don’t know. With all the staff turnovers that seem to occur in the NFL you would think someone needs a place to land. I’ve wondered how many of those coaches just get recycled to another tema in them NFL.
I would think it might be difficult to get one the big names everyone’s posting about to come in and coach, due to them having to either simply be DL coach or Co-coord with Mike. I think a really great coach/recruiter would not want to be in that position. Jeezus I hate being stuck with Mike and that damn Kish.
Hunh.
Well, it’s always something.
It wouldn’t be OUffseason without a good kick in the balls.
Thank you, Sir. May I have another.
*Whap!*
you can kick some in groin and keep kickin then you think…gawd they really are twats!
Twat in the world are you talking about? 🙂
fig the P word would get flagged lol
As mad as everyone is about JM leaving, I think this thread is as good as any to let it rip. lol!
Not to worry, the new kicker will be there in the fall.
Is there a chance Chris Wilson is available?
The former OU linebacker?
Yes, it has been rumored before that he is interested in coming back.
That would be awesome.
What the hell is Calmus doing? he sure looked fired up when he ran out on field this year! I know he was an LB, but, who knows! Or how about promote callens?
Think Calmus is a pharmaceutical rep.
Down at the bottom of the page he is mentioned but just as quickly dismissed due to some strain and disquiet when he left. Don’t know. Had not heard that.
Not a chance in Hades. He burned his bridges with Bob when he left.
Don’t know if it has been said on here, but on the bright side at least Monty won’t be recruiting against us while at another school.
Interesting page to mull over
http://footballscoop.com/news/2014-defensive-line-coach-year-finalists/
Ilaisa Tuiaki, Utah would be my pick!
yep we need some poly guys…CJ is here as GA
http://www.sltrib.com/sports/1775923-155/tuiaki-utah-coach-iframe-andersen-ogre
wonder if CJ will get promoted 🙂
or corey callens
def…he was doing some work late in the recruiting game
Why don’t we get Brady Hoke? He is looking for a job maybe.
Nice..my vote goes for one of those young Poly coaches at the Utah Unis.
mine too
I think one of the Samoans would be an awesome hire and another great recruiting tool.
I just wonder which of these guys has experience with a 3-4
I like the Spencer guy. I enjoy watching RBs not being able to find any creases in our D
Let us all break out our Psych 101 textbooks and begin our trek through the Kübler-Ross model.
Best of luck to him.
Looks like 3 or so offers have gone out today.
oh yeah…who too…I know Bob said the search is on…have you seen any smoke
Well JD beat both of you…I should have said recruits. Jack jones and theo Howard which may have been mentioned earlier. Thought a third name came up but it was the Howard kid twice
Recruits or coaches?
lol Toats
For 2016 recruits or for DL coaches?
Beat you! LOL
damn you
And this is why I don’t have a dog.
Sunshine alert. Great recruiting story. Come to OU as a coach and you’ll get a NFL offer.
Anyone have thoughts on promoting Corey Callens to full-time DL coach? He’s familiar with this staff and group of players, and was damn good himself. Cooks could do DB’s and Co-DC with mikey..
And for anyone thinking/assuming (like i was the other day) that coaches can just release kids from NLI’s, this was posted by soonermusic the other day concerning Tejas and Lampkin.. Its from NCAA rules..
“If a student-athlete signs an NLI with one school but opts to attend a different school in the NLI program, he or she will lose one full year of eligibility and must sit out of competition at his or her new school for a full academic year. There is no penalty if the student-athlete chooses to attend a school that is not in the NLI program.”
After the JH thing…just ready thinking this is a good spot for OTJT. Need some experience, hopefully with the 3-4, and maybe somneone you could coax away with the Co-DC title.
sorry, but, OTJT?
On The Job Training
Let’s step back from the ledge. If you get good coaches, then you have to expect that they’ll move on sooner rather than later for bigger opportunities. It’s bad to have lost Monty but the very fact that he was able to rise so high, so fast, should be a selling point to other rising stars that are hungry to prove themselves. OU will find someone.
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So I missed the official announcement of the coaching hires and apparent reorganization of job titles, but, why the RB’s taken from Cale? I mean, awesome he is asst. HC now, and is still recruiting, but inside receivers? I’m sure he’ll do great, just confused why take Rb’s from him?
move him closer to the dline 🙂
heavily hashed out on previous thread, but imho he’s pulling out all the stops to be sure of significant improvement in the wr dept, and that included putting his top guy on it.
Which day/thread was it and I’ll go back and read it..
i think it was the kerry cook/simmons Official thread with the new coaching assignments listed in the blog…
thanks!
Get Ed away from LSU
DABDA:
Denial – “No! Not you, Jerry Montgomery!”
Anger – “Dang you, Jerry Montgomery!”
Bargaining – “C’mon. Please, stay? We’ll up your salary, Jerry Montgomery!”
Depression – “We’re screwed. It won’t be the same without you, Jerry Montgomery.
Acceptance – “Thanks for all you’ve done, Jerry Montgomery.”
I feel better. Bah-bah meow.
I think you have the anger posted wrong…all the anger I see is pointed to Mike and Kish
that’s deflection
“Bah-bah meow”…LOL
Just when you think everything is floating along just fine… the hottest coach and recruiter on the staff is gone?! I’m just going to hold my breath and quit breathing now!!
Hate to put bad news on bad news but Antione Stephens deleted his twitter account only adding to the rumor that he won’t qualify.
He just tweeted something half hour ago
Hmm, does he have two accounts? I don’t see the one connected to OU’s announcement of his signing.
Not sure but the one I follow seems to still be active tho. I thought he already qualified that’s why OU was so late offering?
Not sure. I’ve seen it posted around a couple places. Hopefully Jordan can find out. I hope he qualifies though, I think he’s a pretty underrated player.
Agreed, Looks really good on tape that’s for sure.
Jack jones 4 star wr from Cali got offered. Says 5’9 144 on 247 but I don’t think they’ve really scouted him yet looks closer to 6’0. No rating from them
http://www.prepforce.com/video/7787/2016-wr-jack-jones-2014-season-highlight-remix
And here’s the other guy theo Howard. Looks like receivers in Cali this year will be a big deal
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4168821/highlights/167687391/v2
wow. jitterbug. he’s quick. reminds me of ol’ boy rb from oregon not too long ago. and how the heck can one not tell the difference in 5’9″ and 6′?
Rivals has him at 5’11 reminds me of quick but not as shifty
ok. guess it coulda just been an old listing and he grew a couple inches
Could have but they also didn’t have him rated. When dalton wood was offered he had 3 profiles on 247 and none were very detailed.
Rivals has this kid around #110 hard to imagine 247 hasn’t had time to evaluate
which service you trust the most?
Neither but I like 247 better because of the composite and because it gives you a grade from 70-100 not 4.something – 6.1 which doesn’t make any sense. And I never use scout or ESPN
i would agree with that. thanks for the info but don’t trust you type thing. love that we do it with our own eyes(meaning the coaches). and espn seems lazy
Little good news, DeBerry tweeted he can’t wait to get to OU!! That’s a relief!!
Maybe DeBerry will get to play for Montgomery one day in the NFL.
Really feel for the kid, He and Gallimore seemed to really have a good relationship with JM and now he won’t get to play for him
His relationship with Kish saved the day!!!
If that’s what it takes so be it!!
I know this might be in sarcasm, but Kish actually has a great relationship with recruits. Not as good as Monty, but they all speak highly of him
He’s stated he wants to be the next “Striker”…at the end of the day, solid play is one of the biggest recruiting tools a coach can have…Striker went supernova in the sugar bowl and has a pretty good skill set…younger guys see that and want to be next… yeah he’s gonna miss Monty (and others will as well )but he didn’t come to OU to be best buds with him…I’d feel more for Mann, Campbell and Gallimore…hopefully we pull in a good coach to ease their minds
We all can be in denial but this is not a good way to start 2015 I hope this is not the start of a long season in 2015.
Yes, I don’t worry that Bob can find as good a coach as JM but don’t know if he can find as good a recruiter
Anyone else remember hearing Monty and Mike didn’t agree on how the Dline was used last season? Wonder if that had anything to do with the sudden departure? Tired of going against Bob’s brother.
Disagreements between coaches is common. Haven’t heard of any bad blood with them. Would not be surprised that a minor argument was turned into an all out war by a beat writer though.
Truer words were never spoken. So many try to create the story rather than report the facts.
Might have to do with an offer from an NFL team.
it may have already been discussed but I don’t want to read through all these posts but are the Brainiacs working to find out who the Sooners have in mind? if Bob is already on the hunt then there has to be some sort of lead.
The brainiacs are always working to find out who the Sooners have in mind. Its what they do! lol
after I typed it out and posted it I thought, this seems like a pretty silly question. with your answer, you have confirmed my thoughts. I love this site
haha. he’s always being a smart alec. 🙂 jk d.r.
i think its a great question and i’m sure they will have something real soon that’ll blow the doors off any other place
I’m betting there will be a post up by the end of the week with leads to who OU is considering. I’m hoping for some big time names to show up. We’ve got talent, now we need someone to coach these guys up.
i didn’t remember him but some have mentioned the guy outta mizzou. he seems awesome. don’t know if he’d leave the almighty conference. k brought up ol’ boy that just went to colorado. i don’t think he was dline but he’s been at it long enough to be good at anything. and jb brought up orgeron a long time ago and he is one of my favorite recruiters of all time. can’t wait for that post
Would it be plausibe or even possible to hire Leavitt or Orgeron away now though? Would be awesome I know that!
just junk punch whoever needs it and have the wheel man hit the gas
edit: in all seriousness probly not
I am aren’t I? Damn. lol
They know who, just not ready to release the name yet. 😉
FWIW. In Stoops press release about Momty’s departure he said he has already began looking into findng the next DL coach.
New recruiting slogan….Come to OU where we not only put players in the NFL but also our coaches.
I’m going to go to bed and hopefully wake up to hear that Monty’s changed his mind. I’m holding on to that. That’s all I’ve got. That’s all I’ve got.
Thats a good thought. Nice and positive. I too will send those thoughts to the universe!
You know, it’s interesting. First time poster by the way. There was a time, when news like this, would have hit me like a ton of bricks. Obviously JM is a big loss. But as I grow older, the less affected I am emotionally. Honestly, this is more of a confession than anything. I never thought I would be to this point. I never imagined my rabidity (is that even a word? If not, it should be) as a Sooner fan would wane. But it has. Is it due to age, maturity? Or is it a coping mechanism of years of expecting to be disappointed? I have no idea. What I do know is this. I love this site, and can’t wait to join in the lively conversations. It makes evenings in a hotel on the road more bearable. Much thanks.
Welcome Salesman.
Welcome!
Welcome and there are two types of tfb posters : anti-kish and crimson goggles. Pick a side
I prefer both.
That’s what I was thinking. There aren’t really sides in here because as soon as you get on one……someone is guaranteed to tell you you’re on the wrong side. 🙂
You’re on the wrong side Ray!
You’re both on the wrong side!
Must be a triangle
Obtuse because some of us have greater sides. 🙂
I get told I’m obtuse pretty regularly.
Dammit, I just got comfortable!
No Ray, you’re in a octagon. You won’t get comfortable for awhile. LOL!!!
As long as there is beer, I’ll sit in a corner.
But which one Ray? Oh, this is going to be a long night.
it’s a circle
Unlimited drinks…..I like it.
I just hover bro
Safe maneuver.
Noticed that pretty quickly. I’m probably neither. I just want to freaking win.
Anti kish aka “sky is always falling” and believe the notion that OU has failed in 95% of their existence because they’ve only won 7 titles and “were Oklahoma it’s a failure if we don’t win the title”
But welcome, I try to be a glass half full kinda guy
I’m the eternal optimist.
hell yeah. that’s what i’m talking about. but i’ve been told this makes me a “head in the sand, sunshine pumping, crimson glasses wearing, non realist”. i love life. i love my family. my glass is always full. and stuff like this will not make me find the nearest razor blade and bathtub
I don’t care if you shave….but you do need a bath. 🙂
dammit. really. you can smell it? i call it fromunda cheese. its new. its from france i believe. every other day should be good enough right?
I need you to stop being happy. We’re trying to mourn right now and you’re ruining it.
i get to wake up to a beautiful woman and a 3 year old and a one year old and one baking. the pitter patter makes me pitter patter. sooner sports makes my blood pressure do jumping jacks but i will always be proud of the boys in the crimson and cream
Let that poor woman rest! 🙂
haha. i’m almost 38. she’ll be 34. suprise, surprise. i just hope my hammies can take another’n
perspective
You mean when OU loses a game you don’t tear walls down? Or try to gather other pissed off fans together and try to take over the Athletics department because you can coach way better?
Or get on the boards and lash out at the people who move on too soon?
He meant his glass was half full of tears, Zack. He’s just as sad and riot prone as the rest of us.
i throw stuff and then get over it. just gotta watch where it goes so i don’t hit the younguns. it makes me royally mad but no i know i can’t coach my way out of a wet paper sack
What side on you on raida? I will tell you I’m not on either one.
Neither there are great, respectful and insightful posters here. If I had to pick I’m more of 5th crimson goggle variety. But I don’t gloss over issues.
Funny but those are simply the two most noticeable camps on here. I’d bet the majority of visitors to this site are waiting until the 2015 season to make a call on Stoops viability as a head coach.
3 Hail Marys and a couple of Our Fathers will take care of the confession. As for the disappointment, frustration, yes you do learn how to cope with it as you get older. Still doesn’t curb high expectations though.
Welcome to the brainiac community.
My expectations are probably higher than they have ever been, which heightens the disappointment.
Welcome Salesman! Jump right into the conversation! Just don’t encourage EasTex when he starts playing bad music!
Not all his taste in music is bad. He does have some good stuff.
I know … I was just picking on him because he isn’t here being miserable with the rest of us!
Now that you say that, where is are good ol buddy at?
he reminds me of the kenny rogers commercial with him playing poker and singing the gambler…..”i get the gist, yeah”
Not sure who Bob plans to bring in, if we’re going with the recent trends it won’t be a big name hire by any means. That said, I’ll take Monty’s advice and #JustWaitOnIt
Why does the #JustWaitOnIt hashtag literally make me want to vomit now?
Because we will never know what we were waiting for. )-:
I am not looking forward to the hire, it will be a disappointment. No good news is all we have to look forward to. This isnt fun and hasnt been fun for too long.
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Sunshine pumper!!
Dude , cowboy up!
Dig in…this is where fan character is made!
Anthony Weaver would be good…
Any excitement I had for next year just died.
just like that huh…lol
you’ll rebound
Happy for Monty. Guy deserves it. Sad for the incoming recruits but from some of their tweets, they seem to be taking it ok. Hope Bob finds someone similar. Young, hungry, relentless recruiter, and a master at technique. As long as mike is in charge of the defense, we need a “players” coach at the positions.
Part of me is thinking OU is in disarray and the other part of me is saying we will be ok. Which side do I pick. So confused right now.
Oklahoma is OK
You’re suppose to pick a side, that is what kt said. LOL!!!!
The stress of picking a side is killing me. Which side are all the cool kids currently on?
Ride the fence till it hurts.
Hey I just checked. It’s still there:
http://www.amasonry.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/OU-stadium-night.jpg
I bet we may even play some games there in the future.
I thought it would be bigger. 🙂
tsk tsk
that john denver’s full of…
weird. it took my pics away the first time on these posts
It did the same to me awhile back.
well that’s what it is. you screwed it up for everybody. thanks a lot 🙂
No need for thanks. It’s what I do.
It needs to be at least 3 times bigger.
what is this? a center for ants?
…
How can we expect players to get better if they can’t even fit inside!
With a bowl…
It was big enough for Billy, and Tommy, and Clendon, and Steve, and Greg, and Joe, and the other Billy, and DeMond, and Q, and Adrian and Demarco and I bet its big enough to hold a few more in the future. If fact I think we might have seen one more this last year.
I KNOW we seen another one this past year.
Thought I would see construction crews.
looks too traditional
How about we bring OU Alum, Former D-Line coach Chris Wilson back? Finished as number 8 recruiter according to 247sports
Doubt it but we had some good DEs while he was here. Usc is looking like they’re about to start rolling. He may wait and see if OU may need a new HC before he leaves usc
pretty unlikely, IMO. didn’t leave OU on the greatest terms
I haven’t read a single thing but I have my thoughts. Monty’s strengths was his recruiting but his techniques lacked a lot to be desired by guys who play/ed in the pros. They were scratching their heads over his techniques or lack thereof.
I’m a fan of Monty and what he has done at OU, no doubt. However, I’m looking forward to the next guy who may teach more technique to all of these young studs. Change in coaching is a given so I wish Monty well but also look forward to the next guy up.
In Oklahoma history we have had five All American Nose Guards, four All American defensive tackles, and four All American defensive ends most of them with multiple year awards. None of them were recruited or coached by Jerry Montgomery. I suspect we will be OK.
You know, I think we will be just fine. Bob will find a great replacement for Montgomery and we will welcome him to the Sooner family. Wish Montgomery the very best and hope he does well with the Packers.
HOW IN THE HELL CAN YOU SAY WE’LL BE JUST FINE?? havent you heard???
We need to look for a stud O-line coach as well because one more year like last year and Bedenbaugh will be getting NFL looks too
I doubt they go looking for a coach to fill a position that isn’t available right now..that’s prob a task that happens when it comes up
Based upon what’s been happening at OU the past couple of seasons, I think it’s a good bet that Stoops has been keeping his eye out around the country for all manner of coaching talent. I don’t think he wakes up one day and thinks, “wow, those social media folks are really ripping me a new one, I’d better see if there are any good coaches out there to sign up next week.” As a result, he’ll be pretty well prepared for this situation, or at least as prepared as one could be.
Obviously there will be a lot of gnashing of teeth, and rehashing of the same ol’ complaints that mercifully had died down momentarily, and urgent calls that he’d better do something immediately or it’ll be too late, etc…. But,
My guess is that a minimum we’ll get a highly qualified D-line coach who should be pretty happy to be handed some of the guys that Monty has brought in. Might even be someone the kids are impressed with, and want to play for. If we’re lucky, it’ll be another lights-out recruiter. That seems to be a desired/and found quality lately. If we’re really lucky, it will be someone great at all phases.
Really sorry to see Monty go. Big fan. I was looking forward to his continuing to tear it up on the recruiting trail. There’s never a good time for this to happen. But if his dream job opened up, what’re ya gonna do.
Next man up….
Great post, but you’ll get nowhere with most message board posters being logical and making sense. 😉
Don’t hate me now, I do Love JM as a recruiter and the DL was up and coming, but some perspective here. No one is irreplaceable right?
The DL was good, not great. There are other DL coaches/DC who could be better position coaches for us. Let’s be honest, at times the DL just didn’t put pressure on the QB, forcing LB/DB’s to blitz. Perhaps this wasn’t JM’s fault but he was coaching the DL. I mean, Tapper had a down year, the DT next to Phillips forgot his name, basically disappeared when Big 12 play started.
Some former players once said that our players technique on the defensive line was very lacking?
I recall that as well. However, I don’t remember who said it.
Freakin Kish!
IMO Stoops will,keep,with his current hiring MO and get someone known for his recruiting prowess. It will be an up and coming coach that few have heard of. This guy will be in his early thirties and be full of piss and vinegar.
I told you guys last month he was not going to play this co-coor thing with Mike and they had better throw some serious cash at him, but in my opinion we can do better but our pockets need to be deep but ask your self this, are you ready to be a co-coor with the likes of Mike Stoops when his brother is the coach…….just as we can find better, better can find better as well… I would go after Dusty Dvoracek An OU alum and former Chicago Bear,All-Big 12 performer and NFL star to coach the D line OR Tony Casillas A 12-year NFL veteran, two-time Super Bowl champion and national champion, Tony Casillas brings titles and championships he has a handful of rings and kids love the bling bling bling!! and Teddy Lehman who had a stellar career at Oklahoma made him a two-time All-American in addition to Dick Butkus and Chuck Bednarik awards in 2003. A member of the 2000 National Championship squad, Lehman made stops in the NFL with the Lions, Buccaneers, Bills and Jaguars to coach backers and Kish can dish out Gatorade for all I care.
Do any of those guys have any coaching experience? If not, sure they were great players but we need great proven coaches/recruiters, not former great OU players.
Yeah, those sound like John Blake hires to me, former sooner player with no experience in the position they are being hired for.
Sounds like a JH hire.
Next!
http://newsok.com/oklahoma-state-in-early-espn-college-football-playoff-projections/article/5392290
I want some of what Brad Edwards is smoking.
That must be some good stuff. Haha that’s rediculous.
“Momentum of a Cactus Bowl performance…”
That’s a six word phrase that should never be uttered.
Team on the rise.
Dammit….the one day I regret logging into TFB
Chris Kiffen should be top priority. He’s an excellent recruiter. His coaching speaks for itself and he only made 220k last year. We could probably offer 325k and steal him away no problem.
No relation to lane and Monty I hope?
Lanes brother.
Yes relation to Lane and Monty. If he is as good as Lane, we should be on probation before the season starts.
I just think you could plug him in and not see a drop off on coaching or recruiting.
Oh I am sure he is a good coach. However, some people will say look he is the brother of Lane and son of Monte, after all that was the first question that was asked. Just pointing out that being the brother of Lane Kiffin is a serious negative not a positive. If we are evaluating him on his own merits, fair enough.
stoops isn’t on the hot seat officially but another year like last year and I’m betting he will be. He has to make excellent hires or they might be looking to hire someone to take his place.
I wouldn’t go that far.
Thats not fair i mean did Jeffery Dahmers brother eat people too??
Lmfao that has me rollin
Agreed, We should throw a truck load of money at this guy….http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/kiffin_chris00.html
I think 300k-325k would get him
Let’s go get’em. There should be a lot of Gems that we can use a little cash to get them to OU. However, I do like this guy.
My only thing is he is not a 3-4 guy.
Remember all the coaching turnover we use to have on offence when we were playing for the NC all the time and had Heisman winning OB play? I think we will be ok, Bob went out and found JM. Maybe he can find another one
Well. Crap.
short, Succinct….well said
From co-DC at OU to a quality control position with the Packers? Wow. Hard to spin that one.
My nephew just called me from the Minneapolis airport. He was on a Tram and a big guy with OU hat and windbreaker sat down across the aisle from him. Marcus thought he recognized him and asked him if he was Jerry Montgomery and it was. He was on his way to Green Bay. Marcus said he was a very nice guy and had nothing but positive things to say about OU but was excited about his new position at Green Bay.
This is very bad, the timing couldn’t be worse. Bob has his work cut out finding the right replacement. Jerry Montgomery, one hell of a recruiter.
His coaching can be replaced, I believe that the mojo with the kids will be hard to find.
Bob has to get this right because I just don’t think he can survive another 8-5 season at Oklahoma.
This defense has got to get better, I really do like Mike Stoops, but he was clearly lost with defending the spread.
Ok, this won’t be popular but here is what we need this will win us a spot in the CFP. Hire Randy Hart from Stanford, make him Co DC and DL coach. Losing Monty hurt recruiting nothing more but with Simmons and Cook on the staff we need a experienced 3-4 guy that has a hell of a resume..
Bummed that JM left so soon. But obviously if you are good in any business, you are going to get offers. I truly believe his heart is in Norman with the bond he’s built with the kids he recruited and worked with. But it’s his shot to get to the show, no different from any of the kids on the OU roster if they got a shot. His absence will hurt recruiting definitely, but IMO he wasn’t at OU long enough to put his stamp on the coaching/development side of things. This hiring will be interesting indeed. Does the new DL coach come in as an asst. DC too? We’ll just have to see.
Or we could raid WSU again and bring in Joe Salave ?? WSU actually had a decent year pressuring the QB..
Joe’s a good dude, still looks like he can play too. He’s worked with Mike at Arizona and he could bring in more Samoan kids to Norman.
I would be good with that.. And I believe WSU runs a 3-4 defense ? But Leach would be pissed.. Lol
A name I haven’t seen mentioned – Angus McClure from UCLA. He’s their D-Line Coach & Recruiting Coordinator. Experience in 3-4 front as a DL coach under Mora; one of the top recruiters in the country; could provide further coverage of CA w/ Viney, & he only makes $185k. Give him a substantial raise & make him Co-DC & DL coach.
Angus is a good guy too, he’s a pretty hard working recruiter. Works the bay area and NorCal alot. Has a pretty laid back style, but has coached some good players.
I would think, that coach Stoops would maybe look within for a hire. CJ is on the staff and has tons of playing experience (college and Pro). He knows the game and is OU through and through. Not to mention he has been there for awhile and has already established a relationship with the players.
Brady Hoke should be on the radar…..