…was a much-needed good day for the Sooners. But it didn’t happen by coincidence. It didn’t happen because you “get who you get.” It happened through proper and early identification, consistent effort, charisma, building the right relationships, pushing the right messages and as always…a little good fortune.
Yesterday, Oklahoma picked up two fantastic defensive players. Both Ricky DeBerry and Kahlil Haughton are not only long, outstanding athletes, but they are also excellent football players with an advanced understanding of the game. A guy like Haughton is the coverage caller on the field for a great Midway football team. Whether it’s a trap call, slice call, whatever…at Midway the secondary makes the call on the field and Kahlil is their leader. These are just the type of heady and athletic ball players that make a defense successful. And the type of good young men off the field that make a locker room successful.
It obviously hasn’t been the best season for Oklahoma on the field, but what yesterday showed is that a good recruiting effort and strategy at a school like OU can yield results. Both DeBerry and Haughton were guys that had a lot of options. Some might be under the impression that because Haughton’s final choices were OU, Baylor, Arkansas and Texas Tech that he didn’t have the other major offers, but that is far from true. Haughton had a LSU offer, in fact, he visited there during his junior season. He also had a Notre Dame offer and one from Ohio State offer, just to name a few. And we all know that DeBerry had every offer under the sun, upwards of 70 or so I believe. But in the end, both players ended up committing to OU and when they sign, as we expect, they will be playing in…the Big 12.
Obviously there was a lot that went into getting these two young men, but I want to focus on one thing Jerry Montgomery — and a couple other coaches on the staff — did in order to help get both these players. A staff has only so much time to allocate to game planning, recruiting, etc. One of the things that is vital in recruiting is knowing the right people around a particular recruit.
Why? Is it because they can help a coach get his message to a player? Well, yes. I mean recruiting the mother is always a sound stragety. But that isn’t what I mean here. What I’m talking about is knowing coaches, mentors, parents, etc. around the player in order to give a coach the clear indication of what kind of real interest a player may have in your program after your early pitches. This is critical because to land top guys like DeBerry or Haughton, you have to go all in. You have to be able to recruit not only the player, but their families and even, at times, their friends throughout the process to even have a chance to win a commitment. That’s a major time investment and you don’t want to make it unless you know the chance is real.
It is often difficult to read a player and, as such, coaches can get strung along. Smart and tactful coaches have relationships built in certain areas of the country, or form relationships around a player, in order to discern whether that interest is in fact real enough to merit the kind of time investment required.
Rest assured what Jerry Montgomery did in pulling a major recruit out of a state half way across the country, at a position group he doesn’t currently coach, and at a position that stood at zero commits before yesterday, against teams like Alabama, Ohio State, and others, in a year when Oklahoma didn’t have the best season, was a recruiting effort for the ages. He knew every angle, worked every angle, was aware of where he stood at all times, built relationships with the right people, and of course is a genuine, likeable, and relatable guy who the DeBerry’s really loved.
Yesterday, I asked Ricky DeBerry Sr. which coach was responsible for his son’s decision to commit to Oklahoma and he responded, “Jerry Montgomery.”
What also needs to be talked about is the involvement of Bob Stoops in the recruitment of both DeBerry and Haughton. Coach Stoops made personal in-home visits with both of these young players. But again, coach Stoops has to be able to trust that his time isn’t being wasted; that his assistants have done their due diligence and know that these are players OU actually has a shot at. Yesterday’s victories will almost certainly make coach Stoops want to be more involved with recruiting, because we all like to be part of something that yields positive results.
I hope that these recruiting wins, and the wins by Texas and Baylor as well, send a message to everyone in the Big 12. That excuses are self-created road blocks. Some excuses are better than others, but ultimately you have to take ownership of your situation and trust that with consistent and intelligent effort, results will come. For the longest time we’ve heard, “well, they’re in the SEC” or “Big 12 can’t recruit against the SEC.” And those excuses certainly have some merit. But they shouldn’t create a defeatist mentality. The response should be, “we’ve got to do something about it!” If that means hiring better assistants, building better relationships, finding creativity marketing strategies…whatever…you do it.
Which brings me to my final point. OU can’t take these victories and sit back thinking all is well. In fact, these recruiting victories should be a reminder of what hiring the best can do. Jerry Montgomery tweeted yesterday, “We aren’t done yet.” And I can tell you, without a shadow of a doubt in my mind, he isn’t.
If decisions were made today, Montgomery would, in my opinion, likely land Neville Gallimore and Gabriel Campbell. Coach Bedenbaugh has also landed a number of great offensive line recruits. What’s more is these guys are coaching their guys up on the field, which is ultimately the standard (we’ve seen plenty of schools squander great talent). Oklahoma needs that across the board, not just with a select group of positions.
Oklahoma needs to be the standard bearer in every facet of their football program. The fan base should go into the offseason knowing that OU either won a championship, lost in the championship game, or feel hopeful they will legitimately compete for one the following year. That comes from being the best at every level of your program and demanding that over everything else; the best coaches, the best facilities, the best administration, the best compliance (Lord knows OU already has the best compliance, haha).
The OU Football program’s history is second to none. And the future of the program should be no less than exactly that.
Here’s to hoping Friday the 19th was indeed, just the beginning.
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Nothing more to add here K. This week was… wow
It was good. That’s for sure!
sk…….in the current scheme, is deberry coached by mont, kish or both
This past year Kish had the OLBs exclusively. The previous year Montgomery and Kish split them depending on what they were doing.
so, mont had the ilb’s this past yr, correct?
I don’t think so?
Awesome work from Monte, Bill, and the Brainiacs !
Boooooooomer !!
Maybe Stephens Intel is right…there’s a subtle message in there I think.
Great write up.
Very well said!
I agree a great and insightful article, really concerning intelligent change and success.
Thanks so much K ! So how does this class stack up against previous classes so far? Who are our remaining targets that we have a legitimate chance of signing?
Does this class remind you of any past succesful groups??
We’ll try to do a sort of summary for y’all.
Afterall the “optimism” Bob was talking about in his pressers were not just lip service. Proving that he can pull in top notch talent even when we have a horrible year. Now, lets turn this optimism into a curb stomping of Clemson, to gain further momentum.
I wouldn’t be too upset if they made Monty head coach in waiting
I think it’s a little early for that kind of thinking. I’d rather have the fiery Venables.
You mean the guy that got sent packing? mmmkay
That’d be the guy. He’s got Clemson playing some of the best “D” in the country. And he could seriously out-recruit MStoops.
look at Clemson schedule….
Needs to be a DC fist. His recruiting efforts and production are second to none. Still waiting to see the d-line develope.
Monty is an ace recruiter, but still needs to pay his dues developing players and then working up to DC as blaster said before getting consideration for HC.
I will never understand comments like this.
Ok
I totally understand the excitement for Jerry & its great to see Bob as involved & engaged with this class as he was but i do wonder if Ricky would have committed here if he didn’t feel totally comfortable with Tim Kish as well.. Coach Kish made the final visit on his own.. & who was the lead recruiter & most responsible for Haughton?
I can’t speak definitively on what role Kish played but his name was never once mentioned to me by Ricky’s father in the multiple times I communicated with him. It was always about Jerry Montgomery. I also know someone close to the DeBerry family and got the exact same impression. Whatever roles Kish was in DeBerry’s recruitment, I feel comfortable saying it wasn’t nearly as big as Jerry Montgomery’s role and I’ve pointed that out multiple times on here because I feel it’s very important to the program that the strengths be identified, recognized and rewarded. Mike and Viney both recruited Haughton. But some credit definitely has to go to Mbanasor and the relationship he built with Haughton.
Do you see viney taking over as the secondary coach in the future (next couple seasons)
This was my next question..
I would hope any staff replacements would be with an established successful assistant with a proven track record as a top recruiter. Promoting a GA to a position coach is picking the apple a little green in my opinion. I think of the analogy of promoting Josh Heupel to OC without a proven track record as an OC.
this is what I’m trying to understand in asking you (below) about who his coach actually (or mostly) is……….the answer, seemingly, is it’s not exclusive but divided up, depending……….so, to the question above, it would seem that the deberry’s must have some regard for kish as a lb coach or why come here just b/c of mont……….
Good point, I just asked K something along those lines.
I believe at his ceremony he mentioned Kish by name and said how excited he was to learn from him.
He did mention Kish. The LBs have also said great things about him. He seems to be a very good coach, it’s the recruiting part of his game that suffers, and that’s a big part of the equation these days.
Ditto.
We all seem to share the impression that Kish is not a noticible recruiting presence. The OU linebackers seem “ok” in their play. Is Kish a good linebacker coach? Does the linebacker group talk about him? Most of the past OU linebackers seemed real tight with Venebles but I have not heard or seen anything as of yet that demonstrates the same with Kish. So, if he isn’t reeling in the big dogs or molding the linebackers into a pack of killer wolves then why is he on staff?
To answer your questions: No, no, and only God knows why.
LBs like Grissom and Jordan Evans have said very positive things about Kish…..albeit in public, so who knows, maybe they are just wagging the dog. When Kittles wasn’t getting it done as a recruiter or developer of talent, Bob let him go. Expect the same for Kish.
good ?……am asking the same
Haughton said Boulware and Mike were his primary recruiters
Could very well get 4 or 5 of the 7 in the picture included on the top of this note…South (UCLA) Overton (OU) Sunderland (OU) Peat (uncommited) Gallimore (uncommitted) DeBerry (OU) and Reid (uncommitted)
Jerry and Bedenbaugh are examples of the new breed of coaches/recruiters which OU needs to hire going forward. With the way OU is trying to recruit nationally, you need to outwork and outthink the other schools.
Great write up K and super message delivered.
I really thought Kesean was the most vocal OU lean of this bunch, but strangely enough, he committed to UCLA. Wish we could flip him, will be fantastic.
KLS would be nice but the only place he would flip to would be Michigan if they get Harbaugh.
I think he and a guy like John Houston are kind of like Adoree Jackson last year. They both really do like Oklahoma and both have legitimate interest however, they are just one of those cali kids that are in the end just very unlikely to leave the west coast.That being said anything could happen, but I highly doubt we get South or Houston. Still, it’s great to have them consider us so highly because that can only help our reputation and presence in Cali for the future.
Could someone compare Sunderland, and Haughton’s game for me..Like the similarities, and differences?
https://thefootballbrainiacs.com/ou-oklahoma-sooners-football-recruiting-2015-blind-tape-test-justin-reid-will-sunderland-mckinley-whitfield-tony-jefferson
Here’s how Sunderland compares to Reid and whitfield. Just imagine haughton would be at the top. Most polished guy very fluid. And is just as fast as any other safety we were after. He could possibly convert to corner but why would you do that if he’s considered by most a “steal”
Thanks man good stuff! What ever happened with Whitfield?
We just never offered him. I would like to know if he struggled this year. Because I know during the summer when he started getting some buzz (thanks to tfb) a guy from rivals said whitfield would have been a 3 star but they had just found out about him. Most recent rankings still have him as a 2 star so I assume he struggled.
Ouch! Best of luck to him
So Tyrell Jacobs just decommitted?
I’m actually surprised by this but I guess he’s not feeling the love.
Think he’s seeing the writing on the wall.
That he’d be joining an awful D and coaching changes are inevitable!
LOL……nah. He’s getting squeezed out by more prolific recruits that we’re in a better position on.
I don’t necessarily think either of those two points are legit. Sure there might be some coaching changes but not at his position. We have the 51st defense, not the 128th and the #11th best rushing defense.
My comment was sort of tongue-in-cheek. But when you look at the numbrers, we are 11th in rushing D (no surprise in a pass-happy conference), 44th in sacks and INTs, 46th pass efficiency D, 51st 3rd down conversion D, 53rd in total D, 67th in turnovers gained, 67th 4th down conversion D, 68th red zone D, 115th in passing yards allowed (so much for that defense designed to stop Big 12 offenses!)…
And in the most important category of all, we’re the 47th scoring defense.
Under any standard, that is a POOR defense that won’t win championships.
Seen it mentioned somewhere else, don’t know how accurate it is.
That sucks
In think so?! 247 has him going to Mizzou in the crystal ball
It’s pretty interesting that the lowest ranked position group of OU recruits is Jerry Montgomery’s DL.
I think that’s about to change real soon.
Yep
Watched Haughton’s film again this morning and wow. I only wished he could get here for spring ball. He and Parker will lite it up in the future.
To be fair OU’s in a league where quick routes are the norm, not exactly going to give the D line the best stats.
“The fan base should go into the offseason knowing that OU either won a championship, lost in the championship game, or feel hopeful they will legitimately compete for one the following year.”
When I search my soul and ask myself honestly, other than the B.S. hype I bought into at the start of this year after (what has proven to be) a fluke Sugar Bowl performance, I haven’t felt that way about the OU program since 2008.
B.S. as in Bob Stoops or B.S. as in Bullsh!t? Like BS the media and fans were spouting before the season all hopped up on the Sugar Bowl victory. Yeah, I fed into that too.
B.S. as in all of what you mentioned above, sir.
I am so pissed after this season. I’m disgusted with myself for falling for the hype that I knew deep down was phony, the embarrassing home losses, the repeated/uncorrected problems throughout the season, bonehead coaching decisions, inability to develop takent, etc. I’ve always been called a sunshine-pumper by friends and family. No more. I’m all out of sunshine. I’m all about reality now. From now on, when it comes to OU football, I will only believe what I see with my own eyes.
Well stated.
If you wanna read something infuriating, read Hoover’s latest sit-down interview with Mike Stoops. It’s a backward looking, entitled loser’s mentality on full display suggesting we be grateful for “good enough” also-ran trophies and he doesn’t care what we think cuz it hurts his feelings, oh, and his players suck. Oh….and we beat Bama a year ago so that should be “good enough”. “Good enough” from Mike and “better than most” from Bob. That’s the culture down in Norman.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/ou/ouhomepage4/john-e-hoover-mike-stoops-finally-gets-defensive/article_5a792d7c-9713-5d5e-99b5-caf142144b56.html
“you know what I mean?”
Based on his twitter account, I’d say he feels like he would be better served elsewhere. Just got an offer from Mizzou and one from Illinois earlier this week. Looks like he’s been talking to others recently.
interesting, anyone feel better?
……..http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/ou/ouhomepage4/john-e-hoover-mike-stoops-finally-gets-defensive/article_5a792d7c-9713-5d5e-99b5-caf142144b56.html
Those are the words of a defiant coach who knows things are effed up. I’m not privy to which coaches are a strength or weakness. But he’s the defensive coordinator so it falls on his shoulders. Evolution is a process and it will play out after NSD.
Still sounds like he doesn’t have an answer.
Ray I think he does but can’t say right now. Thoughts?
IMO, he has too much on his plate, he needs help, and his heart isn’t in it. If he comes up with a fix then fine but if we continue to see the same weaknesses over and over, it’s time for a change. Some of his answers just seem lame and generic.
I was very disappointed in Mike’s responses to Hoover’s questions. I didn’t feel like Mike expressed charisma and confidence that he had a resolution to get things on the right track. Plus, is he still trying to hang our program’s prestige on beating Alabama in the Sugar. If Bama would have beat us, I doubt I’d hear Saban saying “Hey, don’t forget we beat Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl.”
Very disappointed in those, mostly, non-answers. Mike sounds defensive because he should be. No excuse for the way his D played this year- continually bringing up the ‘Bama win is lame at best; continually laying blame at the feet of his personnel is lame; continually avoiding being accountable by occasionally and humbly pointing the finger at himself is lame. I really do think the game has passed him by, he’s in over his head and hasn’t got any answers.
IMO, it’s time to relieve him and JH of their services- to start.
Wow. Just wow. He sounded almost oblivious to all. I mean, “you know what I mean?” goodness..
I was all ready to defend him until I read the article. There is no defending that, he danced around every question. He tried to throw a pity party and he’s still trying to live off a win that wasn’t a NC. No coach with a grasp on reality is going to keep throwing the ‘Bama win around. I used to love me some MS but he doesn’t seem to have that edge any more and he’s gotten into a really bad habit of throwing is players under the bus.
Coaches and players can’t stand that jackass. Every question to a coach is negative/combative. He constantly uses partial quotes to fit his agenda.
Well said K, well said. Couldn’t have expressed it any better. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all the Sooner Nation. 2015 feels like it could be a special year. Clear up some problem areas ie, offense playing to it’s strengths, defensive secondary, untimely mistakes such as penalties, lost points ( missed field goals ) and way too many interceptions ( especially pick sixes ) and lastly, game management! Positive side, we were only 8 points from being 11- 1. Three games we could have, should have won. If everyone comes back ( going pro, suspension ) 2015 could be awesome year. Recruiting is picking up and looks like it could be top ten class. Looking for great things happening in 2015. Happy Holidays Sooner Nation!
Maybe its just me but the delays in getting plays in from the sideline infuriated me more than the defense at times.
FUJH in the booth = the issue.
Montgomery needs a $100K raise this year
I’ll second that motion!
tuff to see Katy lose. Anderson played his heart out. That one fumble hurt but beside him, they didn’t have anything to move it downfield. Lodge on the other hand is a monster.
Great Texas HS football played so far today. good stuff.
With 1:30 left in the game, Katy had that guy trapped in the back field and he got loose for a 50+ yard run. That was the killing blow.
If Katy’s short passing game had worked at all today I think the outcome might have been different.
Watching Allen vs Ranch right now and you are correct, there have been some fantastic games over the past three days.
Still don’t know how that kid got out of that mess but he did and 50 yards later, game over. Thought Ranch had a good chance but when they fumbled on 4th down going into the end zone, to me it was over. Murray is special. I only saw him really miss two throws. Other than that, he hit everything and only got touched twice and they weren’t much. I would love to see Murray in Crimson.
To me the coup de grace for Ranch came with the Allen 66 yard TD drive that only took 32 of the 33 seconds left before half time.
I proclaimed Murray a “Baby Faced Killer” three years ago and he has only reinforced my perception.
Great name, fits perfect. Hurt to watch Anderson after the game. He wanted it so bad. I know that feeling which is why it was hard to watch. The positive is with his talents, he has a bright future. Most don’t and that was it for them. Anderson was the whole offense and it’s a shame Katy’s QB doesn’t have a stronger arm. He’s limited so everyone ganged up on Anderson and he still went for almost 200
I remember how it felt to lose in the playoffs and suddenly the season was all over and all the hard work wasn’t rewarded. It sucks and blows at the same time.
Rodney took it hard, that was the last game of his high school career and the last time he would be with his brothers on the playing field. He can live with the knowledge he left it all on the field.
Now, Rodney can take a break for Christmas and New Years, then pack his bags and head to Headington Hall for the start of the spring semester and the next phase of his life which I hope is as rewarding as his life has been so far.
Going to be a fun backfield to watch and evolve. Best of luck to him. Curious if everything is on the up and up with Murray & ATM. I would hope he is the surprise K was talking about. Lodge looked good too.
Looking forward to OU’s recruiting close as I feel we are going to be pumped.
We shall see.
I expect Lodge to go where Murray goes. Would be a tough duo to deal with.
With the weapons available with the RBs, Josh better come up with some great schemes and packages to put that talent to good use. Also, if any of the elite level OL recruits are paying attention *cough*Greg Little*cough* OU is where they need to be.
One more thing about the Katy game, their D sure made the USC commit RB Ware look subpar.
Little would be a huge get and be paired with Evans down the line would be fun to watch. Coach B putting some good work. Ware had his moments but not like Anderson.
On the recruiting front, I’m really interested in Daishon Neal. He moves very well for a long DE. Curious if he could play the OLB.
Excellent piece, K.
Coaches don’t have much time for their families or themselves. Hope to see their hard work rewarded.
Much effort is expended by many people to entertain OU football fans.
awesome. well said. something people need to always keep in mind. its not fantasy football. people’s livelihoods are at stake. you don’t make moves on a whim. you sort it out and let the people who know what they’re doing make the moves
I reiterate what an old (successful) coach once told his players…”football is fun, it’s even more fun when you win.”
If a fan’s self-esteem is directly linked to the fortunes of a game played by young men using a prolate spheroid object, I recommend they closely examine their priorities.
Great write up!
Damn K, I have goose bumps! Excellent piece!
Just glad I had the son’s I had!!!
The Hoover article was one of the most transparent forms of hatchet reporting I’ve seen. After selecting a bunch of out of context quotes to set the subject up in the most unflattering light possible he starts off with a series of “when did you stop beating your wife” questions.
“Give yourself a grade” is about as loaded a question as possible, and when asked by a hostile reporter has no possible winning answer. Following that up by asking him to explain why “social media” critics are complaining, is equally no-win. As evidenced by his follow ups “gee don’t you care about your fans” etc. With Hoover asking the questions and editing the answers, M. Stoops had no chance to come off looking anyway other than the way Hoover wanted him too.
Even if I didn’t thought M. Stoops had done a terrible job since he’s been here (and I don’t), I would see this article for what it is, totally ridiculous from start to finish.
So excited for Kahlil especially after the issues with busted coverages this year. I worked for Coach Gambill before and I can assure you Kahlil received as good of coaching as any safety in the country!