Sooners News Daily 7.2.15
Posted on: July 2, 2015
FOOTBALL
If things go as currently planned, we’re hoping to address this later today. I just didn’t want anyone to be under the impression we were trying to ignore it.
There is some unfounded reporting. Baker Mayfield has shoulder fatigue.
— Oklahoma Football (@OU_Football) July 2, 2015
Sooner Club releases photos of loge box suites http://t.co/nnlBEwvnQ4 #Sooners pic.twitter.com/jGdfwmhrxx
— OU Daily Sports (@OUDailySports) July 1, 2015
Ever since he got a call to the NFL, former OU footballer Aaron Colvin has been on a mission. http://t.co/Op13NG7cJc pic.twitter.com/ywHDgS3vpy
— KOTV – The News On 6 (@NewsOn6Sports) July 1, 2015
I’m not a fan of Clay Travis or pointless expansion/realignment speculation, but I can appreciate either of those feelings may not be shared by you. So if you care to click, that’s on you 🙂
The Longhorn Network is a disaster, why not turn it into the Big 12 Network and make much more money? http://t.co/kIK5OOg206
— Clay Travis (@ClayTravisBGID) July 1, 2015
ICYMI: Despite David Boren’s comments, there’s no new math for Big 12 and expansion. http://t.co/E9zuL3TaaT via @USATODAYsports
— George Schroeder (@GeorgeSchroeder) July 1, 2015
Despite Bowlsby's comment, logic suggests OU Prez.Boren could get 9-1 vote in favor of expansion. Big 12's survival critical for 8 schools.
— Dave Sittler (@DaveSittler) July 1, 2015
So what happens if OU or Texas leaves the Big 12? This week's Mailbag is heavy on doomsday scenarios. http://t.co/OPkETwvmu4
— David Ubben (@davidubben) July 1, 2015
Good look at the teams that can and can’t fill their stadiums http://t.co/edvS3pezFg pic.twitter.com/YCkHlimVgu
— The Solid Verbal (@SolidVerbal) July 1, 2015
BASKETBALL
Introducing freshman Christian James: http://t.co/8mjzs3cmac #Sooners @The_underrated5 pic.twitter.com/LW7BUnNYxK
— Oklahoma Basketball (@OU_MBBall) July 1, 2015
Former #Sooners guard Tomy Crocker will play for the Memphis Grizzlies in summer league.
— Thunder Obsessed (@ThunderObsessed) July 1, 2015
OTHER
The #Sooners coaches have been named the @NFCAorg Central Regional Staff of the Year! http://t.co/1jaRzXxq4O pic.twitter.com/9EpEHZ0jdC
— Oklahoma Softball (@OU_Softball) July 1, 2015
Dying pic.twitter.com/jTgRdxx5nx
— Max Fisher (@Max_Fisher) July 1, 2015
146 Comments
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Why not just take UCF and south Florida and move on. UCF was good enough to beat Baylor 2 years ago so I don’t see what the problem is. And south Florida had a nice run. Why not take cincy and Memphis too. Then you have the recruiting areas in Florida, Ohio and throughout the sec. Plus you go to 14 teams and add 2 solid basketball programs as well.
Why? Because it makes to much sense. To me, you just hit the nail on the head.
I actually like the idea of if you’re gonna expand.. Then really expand & go for 14.. Go east & give WVU travel partners… UCF, USF, Cincy & Memphis.. We already own the name Big14.. Might as well use it..
I think the big 12 missed out on a few years ago. There’s still quality programs out there. I think K likes Tulane a lot and I wonder how southern miss might do.
Problem with Tulane is that they’re another private school.. We’ve already got 2 of those.. Too many & your conference is doomed anyway..
It was doomed the moment the Big 8 invited Texas
I would throw S.Miss a bone; its SEC territory and was good a few years ago under Jeff Bower. They would do wonders with B12 $$. My 4 would be: Memphis, S.Miss, UCF, and Northern Illinois (Chicago TV).
Yep. Go East/West instead of North/South.
WVU, UCF, USF, Cincy, Memphis and you’d probably have to give KU and KSU the final two spots, to keep them together, although ISU is further east.
That leaves a ridiculously tough West of OU, osu, Baylor, ut, TT, ISU, and TCU.
This makes me think the B12 has already seen the writing on the wall and the univ. Pres/ADs involved are just waiting out the leagues death sentence.
UCF /USF as a would open Florida recruiting grounds. ALso Tulane/Ga Southern would open Georgia, Louisiana / Mississippi , and San Diego / Fresno St would help with California recruiting…..
The problem with San Diego St / Fresno St is that the travel from Morgantown, WV to there would be astronomical and not in the best interest, especially playing on the west coast, where there’s a 2 hour time difference for Sooners, let alone what it would be for those weird Mountaineers up there
I say merge with the PAC 12 and form a Super Conference with east and west divisions.
California and Florida are already open to OU. This would not be new.
Memphis is definitely an option now that Sooner alum Justin Fuente has them playing solid football. The other three as well.
Can you fit the Big 12 Commish job into your schedule?
Because the Big 12 sucks and the pukes better not bring OU down!
I’d do that in a heartbeat.
I’m just not a fan of adding “directional” and “city” schools.
They’re more than that really… those schools are actually really huge state schools with lots of alumni and lots of money.
That’s why I used quotation marks.
It always comes down the the money. And in TV that means number of viewers. So, any schools that are added will be new viewers to the pool. Pick from there.
I love the thought of having these two schools in conference. They are both large schools in a high population area (read: TV sets) with crazy recruiting potential that are only one good conference affiliation away from something special.
UCF is only good if they have an NFL QB. Otherwise, they are kinda Iowa State. USF is kinda Kansas right now.
In Central Florida (i.e., Orlando/UCF), most people aren’t from the area. They are interested in other college teams. UCF “might” be the most popular team in the Orlando area.
I disagree here. They (UCF) have a more than respectable D most years. I would welcome them into the Big 12.
Hello all,
OU is going undefeated this season. It will only be a surprise to the haters. I can’t wait to see Trevor Knight light up Baylor for 500 passing yards and 6 TDs.
with Mayfield on the pine with shoulder woes, Knight may get another chance……
TK is an awesome athlete. Moreso maybe than BM so the problem is may be in his head in that he is unaccustomed to or can’t make the quick reads needed in the Air Raid. We may need him though. If BM is having “shoulder fatigue” doing 7-on-7 in the summer, what can we expect when the season arrives and his workload increases?
I agree that TK is a freak athlete. I think if they let him play loose he can excel! If they try to make decision for him I think he will fold. If you think about it the reports we have been reading has said that the TK and BM have been fairly close in performance. I think that bids well for TK because he has never played in this system before and BM has. I think as time goes by you are going to see TK and CT close the gap on Mayfield. They may not beat him but I think it will be close.
I don’t think this offense suits TK. The number one thing a QB in this offense has to do is make accurate throws. Can’t get YAC without the accuracy. And IMO, that is TK’s biggest downfall. He just doesn’t throw the ball accurately enough. And that appeared to be the case in the Spring Game too.
Hopefully Mayfield is alright. If he isn’t, and Thomas has shown he can throw the better ball, I’d prefer him to Knight.
It’s not like TK doesn’t have the potential to be an accurate passer. He can make the throws. We’ve seen it quite a bit actually, most notably in the Sugar Bowl when he absolutely destroyed a really good Alabama defense with perfect throws. He just needs to be coached up properly and he didn’t have that with Heup.
I disagree. The air raid creates a lot of space, and a mobile QB can be deadly in space. And we all know that, when allowed to, Knight is a very mobile QB.
I like TK. I like his fire. And I think you’re right about BM having an advantage because of his experience with the system. I’m no OC but I don’t believe the problem is physical skills but IQ. Not that TK isn’t smart, just that he’s been inserted into a system with which he is totally unfamiliar. The quick read is critical to the Air Raid. BM can do that. TK, as yet, can’t.
You may be right. BUT just to keep this convo rolling….I don’t think TK has ever been given the chance to make decisions with Heupul. Other than the Alabama game. Even the TFB showed I. Their breakdown they do that zone reads were decided before the snap. I think his decision making hasn’t been used in quite a while and now it will be. The question can he get back to it like he did in HS. JMO
Agree. The zone read wasn’t a read at all when you take away the QB option which Heupel did. I wonder how much being constrained effected TK’s confidence, especially after throwing some critical pick 6’s. Too, I have to believe the coaches were afraid of TK getting hurt. It was like a Catch-22: damned if you do let him run and damned if you don’t.
Knight has above-average athleticism for the position. But in no way, shape or form does he bring to the table what a Johnny Manziel or Marcos Mariotta does.
I get Mariotta, ok, but good god with the Manziel comparison. No one in the CFL scuttles around as much as Manziel today but I would rather have TK that that nutcase.
Let’s stay on topic @Indy_sooner:disqus. The post I responded to was solely about athleticism—-not mental make-up or professional football.
Fair enough. Hard to keep from jumping conclusions when that name gets dropped.
Didn’t say he did. Just pointing out that his difficulty with the Air Raid has more to do with his inexperience with it, than his physical skills.
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I would say most of his problems last year stemmed from poor coaching more than anything. That was his second year as a starter and he looked completely lost at times—–I blame all of that on Heupel.
Agree. Heupel — except for the Sugar Bowl — didn’t gameplan to TK’s skills. We were also hurting at WR last year except for Shep. As for hamstringing TK, I wonder if Heup was instructed to do so because of our inexperience behind him and his proclivity to get hurt. The thing is, though, TK made some awful reads. Can’t blame that on Heupel.
To clarify, you are saying that Knight will throw for 500 yards and 6 TDs against Baylor in ONE game, not three, correct?
Just want to make sure you weren’t referring to cumulative career stats against Baylor.
kinda early to be hitting the bottle
You mean TDs that actually count for OU—–and not Baylor?
I hope Rowdy succeeds in finally ripping an opponent’s arm right off when she locks up with Correia next month.
I kinda want to see her get beat. Just me though…
Personally, I enjoy having someone who can walk their talk. It’s fun, and her competitive streak is infectious. That being said, I’m never root for the underdog. Now, I might root against the favorite, but I personally enjoy the big boys rolling in town and doing what they want .Could just be me though.
“The Longhorn Network is a disaster, why not turn it into the Big 12 Network and make much more money?”
The Longhorn Network is a disaster because it’s Texass. When you’re pompous, arrogant, think your sh*t doesn’t stink and you’re willing to step on whomever you can (other BigXII teams) to make a dollar , karma will always pay you a visit. Texass sucks and so does their loser of a network. I wouldn’t agree to anything in the future that gives the whorns more money than the other teams in the league. Everyone starts out on equal footing in a newly expanded league. If Texass doesn’t like it then they can pick up their toys and go play somewhere else.
Maybe they are positioning themselves to become an Independent.
They already operate that way.
I’m guessing there hasn’t been any confirmation on whether Viney is staying on staff.. But sure seems like a guy that’s not going anywhere…
https://twitter.com/OU_CoachViney/status/616599883034693632
Jeremy: this name came up on another board yesterday. Consensus is he’s gone….
Of course…
Why in the world would you make Ahmad Thomas the center piece of that pic. Is the point to make WRs get excited about the safety that will probably start that can get burned like no other?
Sorry bad morning.
no no, only 3 of them have helmets, it’s a subliminal message
I had similar thoughts. It should be Sanchez.
Probably to help his confidence.
can someone explain the scheme last year to me and why D. Neal struggled so much with it? Required too precise of routes? Too much thinking? Hes more of a vertical threat and he was used underneath too much?
Josh Heupel would be my first guess.
…and second and third and so on…
I say Kish
LOL. Poor guy. He does a great job but gets blamed for things even on offense.
I kid. I like Kish as a coach. He even managed to finish with a nice LB class last year with McGuinness and DeBerry
Hope you know I was kidding too. I am among the minority but I think Kish does a great job.
The Jobs movie looks kick ass.
Android>>>
Boudreaux is announcing today right? What time
what’s the read on Boudreaux? is he OU bound or will he go elsewhere?
Most everyone thinks Notre Dame.. We’ll see..
He looks like a Notre Dame kid.
The young man has to make a choice he believes is best for him. I wish him the best. It’s where he will spend four years of his life. He has to live with that, not us.
So, for purely selfish reasons, I hope he chooses OU. On the other hand, If he doesn’t, the best of luck to him.
All I’m saying is, we should have grabbed Clemson and FSU (and probably Louisville as well) while they were available. Pretty sure those schools would have joined if asked, too.
We could have but we weren’t proactive enough
But, but, Boren said we wouldn’t be wallflowers.
I felt like we had a legitimate shot at Clemson, FSU, and two of the following three, USF, UCF, Miami. Oh, what might have been.
If Boudreaux commits to Notre Dame can we please keep the crying to a minimum?
I already envision the amount of crybabies going to over saturate the thread with complaints
If he goes elsewhere then it’s next man on the list. If he comes here that would be tremendous
There’s always next year.
Hes not committing to OU imo. And from what I hear, that’s not a bad thing.
Oh yeah? What did you hear?
Just that players were not thrilled with him possibly coming to OU. Attitude and how he would of fit in with the OL was a concern. Im putting it mildly but you get the jist.
Really ?? I’ve read nothing on any other website indicating this guy had anything less than a stellar attitude to accompany his physical skill set….I;ve read nothing to indicate he would trouble ‘fitting in’ in Norman….have you observed this personally or is it sour grapes to cover the pain of him going to ND ???
No sour grapes at all…I didn’t want to respond until he made his commitment, for obvious reasons. I think Parker is good, but I also think a couple of the OLs that have been highlighted here and that B is going after are better. JMO.
Who might they be ????
Parker has a ton of offers, but hes only ranked the #25 OT by rivals. Its not like he was an unreplaceable prospect.
Sucks to miss out on him, but its not the end of the world
Cant remember the names, but Ive seen the HUDL tapes on here.
My expectations on the level of crying when Parker goes elsewhere…
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For all of you who claim that if we pull in certain schools from certain regions, it will open up recruiting in that region, please provide some examples of this happening. I do not agree with the premise, but would love to see some data to support your claim.
I have done some cursory research and it appears there is not a strong correlation with playing a school in an area where you don’t have a recruiting stronghold and being able to recruit that area just because you play a team in that area.
I looked at Nebraska, They don’t have any players from talent rich Ohio or Michigan.
I looked at Texas A & M. They don’t have any players from Florida or the Carolinas. While they have players from LA, that was always a hotbed for them.
I would love to be proven wrong, but I think many are taking a leap that is unfounded.
Looking at it the opposite way. When A&M joined the SEC there was an increased amount of SEC presence in recruiting Texas than before.
It would be a ‘two-way street’. It would help if you’re playing in an area with more and better quality players than you have in your area. It would hurt if you’re playing in an area with fewer and lesser quality players. Also would depend upon the number of quality teams recruiting in these areas. OTOH, in the SEC, there are probably more quality recruits than in Oklahoma due only to population density. OTOH, in the SEC, there are more competition (more quality teams recruiting) for those recruits.
The big impetus for joining the SEC is the perception that the SEC is the best and we want to be a part of the best. That really doesn’t impress me all that much. After all, get in the championships and we get a chance to prove who is best and compete for the quality recruits.
We need to leave the XII. There is, long term, only room for four power conferences and XII will not be one of them. Personally, my choices, in this order are: B1G, ACC, PAC, SEC.
People think Boren was laying the ground work for leaving the XII. He was, but he was also laying the ground work for leaving OSU. Not leaving UT, but leaving OSU.
play the SEC champion in the playoffs and a chance to prove to the recruits that they want to play for us.
Agreed. Some players will go across the country, but history shows the majority want to stay close to home near family.
Apparently, there are many schools that are in direct violation of the Fire Marshall’s maximum occupancy rules.
$ec or bust! Just sucks OU wouldn’t play the pukes every year.
I know Im in the minority but Id still like to see OU leave and join the Big 10. Rileys fast pace air attack would befuddle that whole conference.
I agree. B1G is a better fit. Also good chance we can ditch UT which, with their LHN, has only been an irritation.
Could be an interesting scenario. But since OU is unlikely to be able to go anywhere without our orange-headed little brother, the chances of the B1G agreeing to take the pukes too are probably nil.
I tend to agree as sad as that is.
I wouldn’t mind a move to the Big 10. It would improve the perception of the conference, we could reunite the Nebraska rivalry and I think it would be a much easier road to the playoff than the SEC.
How would our style of play be in the colder winter months of Nov & early Dec? Would our passing game suffer? Things to think about.
Did Bret Favres passing game suffer playing for Green Bay?
According to this, yes, cold weather effects passing and kicking. http://www.nfl.com/features/freakonomics/episode-12
I get your point; but do you think playing 2 or 3 games in harsher conditions than we’re used to is that much worse than ending the season vs UGA, Bama, Auburn, FL (assuming they’re good again) and LSU? I don’t know that I would.
Mizzou has managed to get to Championship game, so I think we could too. But I agree it would most likely be easier path in Big10. Another thing to consider is that travelling on road games in colder weather – would that be something to consider too? There are more appealing destinations in SEC than Big10 IMHO.
I would definitely agree the SEC would be better from a fan experience aspect. And anything Mizzou accomplishes only solidifies my belief OU could do so as well, especially if OU was in the SEC East which I would assume they would be. But an easier playoff path and re-connection with Nebraska are the main things that really appeal to me.
I have great memories of the NU/OU rivalry games. I guess on the flip-side we would have an advantage over cold climate teams when they would come down to Norman in September when it is 104F. The 4th QTR would be brutal on them. Heh.
The Big 10 has never appealed to me. I could live with the SEC, but I wished Texas’ network and OU’s insistence on taking oSu with us didn’t implode the Pac12 deal.
Very happy with President Boren for stepping out and reviving the expansion talk regardless of what the commish or others think. There is obviously a huge population of people who would like to see something done. Good work Boren. Boomer Sooner!!!
Parker Boudreaux to Notre Dame
As expected. Thats one big leprechaun!
EasTex does not approve.
No, I do not.
Definitely salty.. But I’m way more focused on getting Caleb Kelly
They need to pull out all the stops for him. I listened to a scout for rivals say on the radio that Michigan was leading with Kelly and the next day warren said the same thing so I think we are behind on him also.
There goes another top choice. Now let’s go find a 2star that has a offer from Arkansas st and get a commitment and call him a hidden gem that can be coached up.
Some of you people amaze me with how bad you get your wittle feewings hurt with stuff
I just don’t get how we haven’t been able to land any commitments.
It just turned July
I know that but our top choices are committing elsewhere and we are getting second or third choice guys Baylor or tcu could lose half there classes right now and still put ou to shame.
Not everybody can be an endless fountain of sunshine and rainbows @disqus_BeW3hegp9d:disqus—–you set a standard that no one can match 😀
Yep. You “realists” go to each site with your never-ending eeyoreness and bring everybody down. We get it. Free country. You do whatever you want. Your “opinion” should be expressed just like everybody else. But seriously, when it’s every single subject on every single day, no one wants to read it. You of all people should know there are more important things to worry about than losing out on recruits
Haha. Speaking of not meeting standards. You guys whine about every single thing under the sun. And want blood when you don’t get you wittle way
@disqus_BeW3hegp9d:disqus Lol! Yeaaaaah, um no. Sorry, but no one died and made you captain of the fan police
Good one. Are you rphokc? You guys seem to share the douche gene. I know. Maybe these guys can sell “boom” muzzles for you guys that wanna bitch about everything
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“Douche”? Wow, okay…………….
Exactly. When people like y’all always, and I do mean always, bring a place down or in other words, if the shoe fits
I take offense to that comment. My sunshine pumping is second to none!
@disqus_UgO7DH4SYL:disqus Don’t get me wrong now—-sunshine pumpers definitely have a place in our modern society!
I remain optimistic that we will be fully appreciated one day.
Rowdy Frederick get that offer yet?
Who?
Heard this kicked around on the radio, pick up the three service academy teams plus one more getting to 14. The academy stadiums are small but they are considered a national brand. Good or bad?
No bueno if you ask me. What do service academies bring to a conference?
Not sure what they could bring…it’s why I asked.
That’s what i’m saying. To me they don’t have a brand or geographic location. People generally go to the service adaemies for specific reasons, and football is not the top of that list.
Not that it’s a deciding factor for anything or a reason to include them……. but I hear the Army home games are pretty impressive.
If a lot of eyeballs watch them play when they are on TV, the television contract money might be good. If that isn’t the case there may be no benefit.
True…I thought Navy went to the ACC though….I think.
AAC. Old big east.. Same conference Tulsa is in.
I only watch them because I love option-football. Otherwise……………..meh.
Ronda is gonna smash that girl.
Expansion sounds great, but after Boren started the trend of having Big 12 members sign on to a grant of (TV) rights contract (yes, that was his idea), the other Power 5 conferences followed suit. We can’t poach any other P5 conference so there’s no one left to get with the possible exception of BYU that would be a quality football addition (other than OU, TCU and Texas they are the only other team who would have a football national championship and would have a better all-time record than most Big 12 schools). Any other member would weaken the Big 12.
There’s a simple solution to the problem of not having a 13th game like P5 conference champions. With the new autonomy rules, every member of the Big 12 should add an extra non conference game. EVERY Big 12 member could boast about playing 13 games, not just the conference champions & runner up.
Teams would be too scared to add another OOC game because it means another potential loss to someone decent or just another cupcake on the schedule.
We’re all doomed
Slow news day today
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